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Anonymous No.724768289 [Report] >>724768527 >>724768912 >>724768959 >>724769018 >>724770561 >>724772786 >>724773493 >>724773574 >>724774532 >>724775061 >>724775121 >>724775214 >>724775261 >>724779886 >>724780443 >>724780510 >>724785049 >>724787416 >>724787548 >>724790829 >>724791739 >>724794179 >>724798875 >>724800738
>best FF in your path
Anonymous No.724768326 [Report]
WoR? I liked it better when it was called "merged" world"
Anonymous No.724768337 [Report] >>724776053 >>724783513
I like 8.
Anonymous No.724768354 [Report] >>724768456
But thats not jack's game
Anonymous No.724768383 [Report] >>724783907
15 mogs it pretty hard
Anonymous No.724768456 [Report] >>724768759 >>724774130 >>724780970
>>724768354
best gameplay, worst story
Anonymous No.724768462 [Report] >>724769060 >>724772517 >>724788550
3, 8, and 11 are the best ones
Anonymous No.724768527 [Report]
>>724768289 (OP)
Based, and correct.
Anonymous No.724768571 [Report] >>724768603 >>724768756 >>724769060 >>724772950
OP here sorry I fucked up
Anonymous No.724768603 [Report] >>724769060
>>724768571
based
for me it's chains of promathia
Anonymous No.724768756 [Report] >>724768918 >>724768959 >>724801156
>>724768571
Is that some kind of mod for 9?
Anonymous No.724768759 [Report] >>724768842
>>724768456
nah IV's story is worse. OHHH UHH I DIED BUT IM BACK NOW!! NO I WASNT A BAD GUY, LE EVIL THING MADE ME DO IT!!!
Anonymous No.724768842 [Report]
>>724768759
I can follow IV's story
Anonymous No.724768912 [Report] >>724785113 >>724788935
>>724768289 (OP)
No
Anonymous No.724768918 [Report] >>724769539
>>724768756
these are all downgrades except for shadow and relm.
Anonymous No.724768959 [Report]
>>724768289 (OP)
>>724768756
You'd think romhackers and modders would move on to the official PC ports after PR, but no.
Anonymous No.724769018 [Report] >>724769060 >>724769064 >>724772950 >>724774636 >>724793713
>>724768289 (OP)
There is only one good FF
Anonymous No.724769060 [Report]
>>724768462
>>724768571
>>724768603
>>724769018
Kings
Anonymous No.724769064 [Report]
>>724769018
Pic unrelated.
Anonymous No.724769539 [Report] >>724769693
>>724768918
They literally all still look the same to me what different about them?
Anonymous No.724769693 [Report]
>>724769539
looks like the romhacker changed them to be closer to amano artwork. celes looks much worse imo
Anonymous No.724769952 [Report] >>724770016 >>724773463
>HP 0
>Continues to fight
Why can't modern games be so soulful?
Anonymous No.724770016 [Report]
>>724769952
Gustave was kino
Anonymous No.724770561 [Report]
>>724768289 (OP)
Anonymous No.724771273 [Report] >>724771872 >>724772243 >>724772391 >>724780784 >>724781258 >>724785113
Just FYI, IV is better than VI
Anonymous No.724771872 [Report]
>>724771273
Nah, it's too repetitive. You go to the Tower of Babel/Zot like 3 separate times, then once more to another dungeon that's identical to it and then you reach the moon and the game ends 10 minutes later.
Anonymous No.724772243 [Report] >>724772270
>>724771273
You’re just saying that because Rydia.
Anonymous No.724772270 [Report]
>>724772243
Rydia in 3D is boner material.
Anonymous No.724772391 [Report]
>>724771273
VI is a massive downgrade from V in every way imaginable at least. It feels like a step back.
Anonymous No.724772517 [Report]
>>724768462
Anything but 12, let's derail the main character a literal friggin sky pirate inspired by setzer crossed with cyan in 6 with a bit of locke thrown in for a spoiled brat melty about his parades and meeting people(Balthier could of saved the game political intrigue like 4 with garland).

Yeah I gave that game away, say what you like about 13 , I prefer fem-cloud(10 hr corridor > manchild).
Anonymous No.724772786 [Report]
>>724768289 (OP)
>Perfect the Job System in a mainline game
>Immediately abandon it outside of Tactics and MMOs
Anonymous No.724772950 [Report] >>724773096 >>724773453
>>724768571
Rise of the Zilart chads, this is our thread!

>>724769018
Based.

Reminder that FFXI was under development before the Enix merger and is the last true FF before they started churning out slop.
Anonymous No.724773096 [Report]
>>724772950
>Reminder that FFXI was under development before the Enix merger
So was XII
Anonymous No.724773453 [Report]
>>724772950
>under development
It was released before the merger.
Anonymous No.724773463 [Report] >>724773972 >>724774789 >>724778287
>>724769952
I like how FFV justifies why the dead party member can't be revived, as opposed to FFVII which doesn't.
Anonymous No.724773475 [Report]
FF5 is the least plot-heavy game in the series other than FF1, and it still has one of the most lovable main casts.
Anonymous No.724773493 [Report] >>724773571 >>724774042
>>724768289 (OP)
That's the only mainline FF I haven't finished. It's so fucking boring with a retarded story.
Anonymous No.724773571 [Report]
>>724773493
No need to describe your existence.
Anonymous No.724773574 [Report]
>>724768289 (OP)
>Verification not require
Ff4 is the best ff and best jarpig
Anonymous No.724773972 [Report] >>724774125 >>724781569
>>724773463
What is there to justify? In gameplay characters never die, they're just unable to continue fighting.
Anonymous No.724774042 [Report] >>724774375 >>724774569 >>724782171
>>724773493
Its the gameplay autism one.
Kinda like how the Fire Emblem community has LTC and draft races, FF has FF5 Fiesta Runs.
Anonymous No.724774125 [Report] >>724774315
>>724773972
>In gameplay characters never die
Then why do some games allow them to turn into zombies which sets their HP to 0?
Anonymous No.724774130 [Report] >>724774953
>>724768456
the story in stranger of paradise is absolute kino.
Anonymous No.724774315 [Report]
>>724774125
For the same reason why Zell can run around the planet in a few seconds or Sabin can outrun and suplex a train
Anonymous No.724774375 [Report]
>>724774042
>Its the gameplay autism one
And that's why it's the best one, since even in the best-written FF games, the writing is still shit.
Anonymous No.724774532 [Report] >>724774775
>>724768289 (OP)
I liked 4 Heroes of Light more as far as job system Final Fantasy games go. 4HoL's job level up system doesn't waste any of your time and the hats are cute.
Anonymous No.724774569 [Report] >>724774813
>>724774042
Gameplay isn't anything special either. Dragon Quest 4 blows it out the water
Anonymous No.724774636 [Report] >>724774790
>>724769018
Yeah, and it's FFT.
Anonymous No.724774775 [Report] >>724774995
>>724774532
I heard that one was alright, but never got around to playing it.
Anonymous No.724774789 [Report] >>724781569
>>724773463
It is almost always 戦闘不能 in RPGs, i.e "Unable to fight". The status is almost never actually "Dead". Hell, phoenix down cures the aforementioned status and doesn't state that it revives anyone.
Anonymous No.724774790 [Report]
>>724774636
T is for tranny and that makes you a degenerate.
Anonymous No.724774813 [Report] >>724781715
>>724774569
DQ4 is mind numbing. DQ gameplay didn't start not sucking ass until DQ8.
Anonymous No.724774953 [Report] >>724775069 >>724799192
>>724774130
no it's pretty shit. I don't buy the "ironic/self-aware/cheesy shit" kino, or forced My Way feels.
Anonymous No.724774995 [Report] >>724775070
>>724774775
I liked it more than the Bravely games that it's kind of a spiritual predecessor to because it doesn't waste your time or reuse areas like they do. The story, while less detailed, has a similar vibe and it shares the same artist.
Anonymous No.724775061 [Report] >>724775134 >>724775170 >>724775195 >>724775242
>>724768289 (OP)
I played FFI - VI a while back (original versions, not the pixel remasters), and V was by far the game I enjoyed the most.
IV really disappointed me with how restrictive it was (no class choices, no choice on party composition, and also the combat system kind of blew), then V was just a complete 180 into near limitless freedom.

VI was a beautiful game but I didn't really find it all that fun. I burned out after VI so I can't comment on VII and beyond, but I imagine they only got more linear?
Anonymous No.724775069 [Report] >>724775150
>>724774953
thats because you are devoid of soul.
Anonymous No.724775070 [Report] >>724775543
>>724774995
didn't it have some gameplay issues like not being able to target shit or something
Anonymous No.724775121 [Report] >>724781284 >>724788427
>>724768289 (OP)
Based
Anonymous No.724775134 [Report]
>>724775061
8 is the best game by far.
Anonymous No.724775150 [Report] >>724775878
>>724775069
There are some ridiculous parts of the story that I might enjoy, but I wouldn't call good or kino.
But this is extra complicated by Team Ninja's absolute inability to communicate any story well, in their entire history of dame development. Their schizo storytelling hides SoP's issues well since Jack is a schizo, but it is simply not fun to learn a story (the actual background, not just "Astos was a good boy") largely through text messages scattered around a stage.
Anonymous No.724775170 [Report] >>724775362
>>724775061
7 - 10 are great games. VI is pretty dull and has the worst progression system other than 4.
Anonymous No.724775195 [Report] >>724775391 >>724775441 >>724776186
>>724775061
Any chance that you were burned out because you played in order and got to VI last?
VI really shines in WoR. WoB has good story but boy does that shit drag at times.
Anonymous No.724775214 [Report]
>>724768289 (OP)
That's not Dissidia012
Anonymous No.724775242 [Report] >>724775441
>>724775061
Same and I genuinely enjoyed II more than some of the others. It was a trainwreck but at least it wasn't boring and bland.
Anonymous No.724775261 [Report]
>>724768289 (OP)
im partial to 4
Anonymous No.724775362 [Report] >>724775540
>>724775170
>the worst progression system other than 4.
How does 1 have a better progression system than 4
4 is just boring leveling up to get abilities (except Rydia) for mages, and story-based changes. Compared to
>buy spells in shops
>a single job upgrade, which makes personality changes some jobs and also fucks over others

>at least you can choose classes
start-of-game class choice is not progression
Anonymous No.724775391 [Report] >>724775450
>>724775195
Not him but WoR is too little too late, even though it is a huge improvement. The fact that VI's fanbase actually dislikes WoR for the most part tells me all I need to know. FFVI was intended for linear moviegame fans and I'm not one of them.
Anonymous No.724775441 [Report]
>>724775195
I don't think it was VI's fault I burned out on the series, I think it was just that I had been playing nothing but Final Fantasy for several months at that point, after VI I felt as if I finally had enough of turn-based combat for a long while
I'll surely go back to finish the games eventually (besides XI I guess)

>>724775242
I liked FFII a lot too, it felt insanely ambitious for a NES game in the 80s. The stat levelling system was a bit of a mess in practice, but I appreciated them trying something unique
Anonymous No.724775450 [Report]
>>724775391
>Not him but WoR is too little too late
Entirely fair. I guess it's also entirely possible that FF6 fans have two camps that like the different parts.

For example, I'm in the camp that thinks Celes is a bad character (though WoR is great).
Anonymous No.724775540 [Report] >>724775636
>>724775362
IV doesn't have any progression other than leveling up. FF1 has class choice and a class upgrade. OG 4 is really dull. The 3D remake is great, though. It effectively adds the ability system from 5.
Anonymous No.724775543 [Report] >>724775659
>>724775070
It has an auto targeting system where certain abilities can only target front row and others can only target back row and if you're using a single target ability you always attack the leftmost enemy if it's a front row attack and the rightmost enemy if it's a back row attack. Fights are designed with it mind so it's not an issue, ir rather when it is an issue it's an issue on purpose and the devs are being assholes. It's a good system with consistent rules.
Anonymous No.724775636 [Report]
>>724775540
start-of-game class choice is not progression
Class upgrade I'll give you, but Rydia and Cecil also get story-based class upgrades.

Leveling to learn spells is better than buying them from a shop, and Rydia gets abilities from fighting summons too.
Anonymous No.724775659 [Report] >>724775985
>>724775543
that sounds like a retarded (consistent) thing that the devs intelligently built around, but also is a retarded thing that should just not have been there in the first place
Anonymous No.724775660 [Report]
6>4>After Years>5
Every other one doesn't matter
Anonymous No.724775849 [Report] >>724781938
V wins by virtue of having the greatest sense of being a fun adventure. The cast feels most like each one embodies the spirit of adventure and radiant heroism. I would even argue V most carries the atmosphere of hope. VI and III arguably follow closely as well. IV had great characters in a more dramatic sense. II felt of a wonderful desperation as the world continuously fell to destruction as the story went on and I was about as straightforward as it gets, time travel shenanigans excluded
Anonymous No.724775878 [Report] >>724776380
>>724775150
>Their schizo storytelling hides SoP's issues well since Jack is a schizo, but it is simply not fun to learn a story (the actual background, not just "Astos was a good boy") largely through text messages scattered around a stage.
wrong.
Everything else was handled extremely well with some of the best storytelling the series ever had.
They managed to keep the player in the dark about the obvious outcome of jack garland ending up as chaos and ended up merging the very basic FF1 time loop story with batshit insane developments.
the basic setup from the retarded first reveal paying off by gradually revealing that Jack is actually the most ballsy and cunning FF protag is great. Even the stupidity of it was turned around on the player.
The only arguably moronic part is how none of the fantasy world people even noticed that jack and his entourage walk around like shibuya fashion victims. It wouldve been less jarring if they had costumes somewhat resembling FF1 jobs.
The game managed to include a reverse Berserk apocalypse leading up to the main storys finally I genuinely think you have to completely lack the ability to feel joy when you go out of this game and say that it doesnt have a good story.
Anonymous No.724775985 [Report]
>>724775659
4HoL has a lot of weird choices like an old school character tied inventory system and having AP you have to charge up instead of MP. Yeah its a little retarded but it adds more strategy instead of taking it away so I've always been fine with it.
Anonymous No.724776053 [Report]
>>724768337
argentinian autistic incel
Anonymous No.724776186 [Report] >>724776267 >>724776464
>>724775195
FF6 is simply not a good game if you prefer combat gameplay and character building.
In the WoB every character is super basic and half of them are just gimmicky shit.
Then later on you get your epic crystals which just homogenize everybody at best and at worst turn into min-max hell if you care about the level up boni of them.
Limited equipment helps a little bit to force characters into more defined roles but its not amazing.
Also equipping, deequipping and reequipping chars is very annoying and the game asks you to change parties often (not a bad thing).

They put a lot of effort into making unique scenarios and putting in minigames that would later on define the PS1/2 era of FF games but the meat of it is just not that great.
Anonymous No.724776267 [Report]
>>724776186
Brave New World turns it into a good game.
Anonymous No.724776380 [Report]
>>724775878
>They managed to keep the player in the dark about the obvious outcome of jack garland ending up as chaos
no they didn't everyone called that shit from the first moment, even from the trailers
>nded up merging the very basic FF1 time loop story with batshit insane developments.
>batshit insane developments
yea those were NOT good. Lufenians as multidimensional fuckos? Yea fuck you.
>Jack is actually the most ballsy and cunning FF protag
Ballsy yes, because he gives 0 shits (this is not a good thing for a character, because that means 0 depth). Cunning no. The execution of the final plan is absolutely retarded and entirely forced by the story. The characters all oscillate between absolute drama queens and "I'm too cool/self-aware for this shit" chuds

You're confusing BIG THINGS HAPPEN with good plot. This is even worse than fans that consider BIG SET PIECES HAPPEN good plot, because at least the set pieces are usually at least decent. SoP's plot is already slightly retarded on paper and driven to absolutely dirt by TN's inability to tell a story.
Anonymous No.724776464 [Report]
>>724776186
>FF6 is simply not a good game if you prefer combat gameplay and character building.
I think it's middling on both, yes. I do not like the magicite system, even though it has some nice bits.

The first half of WoB I can forgive because it's just introductory stuff, letting the player sample different characters before shit gets real.
The second half of WoB drags and has no defense.
I think the game shines best in terms of exploration, in WoR. Walking into some corner and seeing what's happened there or looking for clues on which direction to explore next is peak, better even than Merged World. (Merged World has other things going for it, like being more streamlined and you just fucking around with your arsenal to see how broken you can get it.)
Anonymous No.724776470 [Report]
>this is not a good thing for a character, because that means 0 depth
lol
Anonymous No.724777107 [Report] >>724777161
Whats the best version of 4?
Anonymous No.724777161 [Report] >>724777293
>>724777107
3D remake for strategic bosses and better progression systems, PSP for the best visuals, QoL and most content.
Anonymous No.724777229 [Report] >>724782139
>improve the Job system from V
>have only 2/3 of the Jobs from V
>Each of your parties has five Jobs exclusive from the other party
>Each time you unlock a new Job you don't get to use it for the next 2-3 hours
Why you do this to me S-E.
Anonymous No.724777293 [Report] >>724777395
>>724777161
Damn, ds version sounds good but its ugly af.
I'm not really a graphics fag but the psp version looks so nice
Anonymous No.724777363 [Report] >>724779204 >>724782018
The best job system to date is in Dragons Dogma
Anonymous No.724777395 [Report] >>724778083
>>724777293
The main turn-off for me with the 3d remake is the game is locked to 20fps on overworld stuff, and 15fps in combat, even on the other ports of the game.
Anonymous No.724778083 [Report]
>>724777395
But but but 4k!
Anonymous No.724778287 [Report]
>>724773463
It's taken from Wizardry where the characters do get brought back to life. It's better to consider it as the resurrection failing and the characters being lost forever.
Anonymous No.724779204 [Report]
>>724777363
nah
Anonymous No.724779886 [Report] >>724780103 >>724780105 >>724781224
>>724768289 (OP)
Say his Name.
Anonymous No.724780103 [Report] >>724785146 >>724800895
>>724779886
>tfw we live in the timeline where Amano had to do Gex art
Anonymous No.724780105 [Report]
>>724779886
I'm Bartz Simpson, who the hell are you?
Anonymous No.724780384 [Report] >>724780503
Whoever says 8 is the best hasn't played a single videogame in 27 years
Anonymous No.724780443 [Report] >>724780592
>>724768289 (OP)
That's not FF XX
Anonymous No.724780503 [Report]
>>724780384
Whoever says 8 isn't the best is gay.
Anonymous No.724780510 [Report] >>724780712 >>724780797 >>724780842 >>724781037 >>724784178
>>724768289 (OP)
Is this real or does it just get the Sonic CD bonus, as in people praise it a ton because it wasn't widely available back in the day?
Anonymous No.724780592 [Report] >>724780804
>>724780443
What happened to FF XVII through XIX?
Anonymous No.724780712 [Report]
>>724780510
>emulation wasn't widely available
Sasuga?
Anonymous No.724780725 [Report] >>724780807 >>724780884
XVI>XV>XIV>XIII>XII>XIII-2=XI>X>IX>VIII=X-2>VII>VI>V>IV>III>II>I
You cannot refute this.
Anonymous No.724780784 [Report]
>>724771273
i would've held FFIV in higher regard if it didn't have that bullshit about niggas on the moon.
Anonymous No.724780797 [Report]
>>724780510
You'll be disappointed if you play it for sure.
Anonymous No.724780804 [Report]
>>724780592
I'm already pushing it by even telling you there will be an XX. I'm not risking it with the time police by giving more details
Anonymous No.724780807 [Report]
>>724780725
You think you're clever.
Anonymous No.724780842 [Report]
>>724780510
I haven't played all the FF's, but genuinely of those I have, it was the funnest.
The level of customization is nuts.
Anonymous No.724780884 [Report] >>724781292
>>724780725
Reminder.
Anonymous No.724780970 [Report]
>>724768456
>worst story
Bullshit.
Anonymous No.724781029 [Report]
I think VI is a little bit better than V.
Anonymous No.724781037 [Report]
>>724780510
???
I played it in English before FF8 came out.
Anonymous No.724781224 [Report]
>>724779886
バッツ
Anonymous No.724781258 [Report]
>>724771273
Cecil is my favorite FF main character. Starting the game as the villain and going through a redemption arc was pretty cool.
Anonymous No.724781284 [Report] >>724787203
>>724775121
I miss playing Dissidia with my lil bro, he's in college now and we just dont get along that well anymore since he entered High School (mainly due to my edginess back then), I wish I can reconcile with my bro and play this shit again :(
Anonymous No.724781292 [Report]
>>724780884
>4 Heroes of Light
I keep forgetting that entry exists. There was FF Explorers also which was kind of like a Monhon clone.
Anonymous No.724781569 [Report] >>724782210 >>724786970
>>724773972
This is cope for the japs being either too lazy to too stupid to write games that aren't retarded. For one thing, it wouldn't be a game over if they were just "too tired to fight." For another the revive item isn't fucking caffeine, it's a feather from a bird known for rising from ASHES (IE dead). Furthermore, literal DEATH is a status effect, spell, and/or materia all throughout the series. Beyond that, the stuff that """knocks out""" characters in battle is far more fatal (like machine gun fire) than the stuff that kills them in cutscenes (one widdle stab wound). FF7 is dogshit and Aerith's death is phenomenally retarded, come to terms with it.

>>724774789
>it's a feather from a bird known for rising from ASHES (IE dead)
Anonymous No.724781660 [Report]
I just started FF3 because I can't remember ever finishing it. It feels like a DQ game story.
Anonymous No.724781715 [Report] >>724781804 >>724781836
>>724774813
Is DQ8 when they dropped the menucringe turnslop combat for something real time and therefore better?
Anonymous No.724781804 [Report] >>724781942
>>724781715
No, but they made the turn based menu combat into at least something more strategic than "warrior attacks thief steals mage blasts healer heals".
Anonymous No.724781836 [Report] >>724781942
>>724781715
Mainline DQ has always been turn-based. XI gave you the option of realtime pussyfooting around in combat, but it had zero impact on the gameplay or how enemies targeted you, and it was still menus.
Anonymous No.724781938 [Report]
>>724775849
I agree. I'm not sure what it is about the cast. They don't have a lot of dialogue or really complex characters but they're so charming and uplifting, everyone has each others backs. I especially like the merged world and the events there. The reality the party new in a sense was a lie, their entire civilization has been merged with another, and now from the characters perspective large swathes of that new world has been completely fucking erased from existence, bartz hometown, in universe and divorced from the game version of the towns we see, the impression is that millions of people are just gone. Yet it doesn't bother them that much, they don't mope a lot or let it get to them, they continue going balls deep into uncertain fates, unwavering.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2K_KvugBQpo
I think the merged world theme encapsulates what the party must be thinking and feeling. It's as hopeful as it is unsure.
Anonymous No.724781942 [Report]
>>724781804
>>724781836
xe was just making an epic snarky "turn base bad" comment
Anonymous No.724782018 [Report]
>>724777363
It's really good but there should be more cross vocation skills. Luckily you can do that with mods, leveling assassin to get specific moves for fighter, then using fighter and assassin abilities with mystic knight is kino
Anonymous No.724782139 [Report]
>>724777229
blame matrix software
t. S-E fans
Anonymous No.724782171 [Report] >>724782215
>>724774042
>gameplay autism
The gameplay in the first 6 games is literally the exact same, not including spinoffs like Mystic Quest.
Anonymous No.724782210 [Report]
>>724781569
You have autism.
Anonymous No.724782215 [Report] >>724782473
>>724782171
Maybe it's like that to you if you're mentally retarded and have to reduce everything to make sense of it.
Anonymous No.724782384 [Report] >>724782539
I will always love the OST of FFV.

>lennas theme
>the north mountain theme
>big bridge theme
>1st and 3rd (merged) world themes
Anonymous No.724782473 [Report] >>724782534 >>724782553
>>724782215
>ATB makes you do the same things but faster
What is the other innovation here that isn't jobs?
Anonymous No.724782534 [Report] >>724782941
>>724782473
The progression system radically change how combat plays out. FF5 lets you mix and match any job for your whole party. The other games can't compete.
Anonymous No.724782539 [Report] >>724782710
>>724782384
2nd map theme is my favourite
Anonymous No.724782553 [Report] >>724782646
>>724782473
ATB is, by every metric, slower than turn based.
Anonymous No.724782646 [Report] >>724783005
>>724782553
No. In pre-FFX turn-based FF, both you and the enemy get exactly one turn each. With ATB, your speed or weight stat determines who gets their turn first, and you can get several turns before the enemy gets one, bypassing the wait.
Anonymous No.724782710 [Report]
>>724782539
FF3 has my favorite map theme, but maybe that's just my love for Shadowbringers leaking through

Leaving the tutorial cave and hearing this (I played FF3 way after XIV) gave me a big smile, I had no idea that entire expansion was basically a FF3 prequel.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=79iWS0reUGA
Anonymous No.724782941 [Report] >>724783307
>>724782534
>progression system radically change how combat plays out
What? This isn't true outside of any of the early games unless it's FFT or something. Is this some speedrunner/minmax gamefaqs shit that was never part of beating the game?
Anonymous No.724782948 [Report]
this was literally me when I first emulated FFV back in the day on snes9x and heard lennas theme at the start of the game.

that fucking bass line, I literally stayed in the first meteor screen for a good few minutes listening to it
Anonymous No.724782993 [Report]
>warus guard when an adventurer comes by and wants to go in the basement.
Anonymous No.724783005 [Report] >>724783264
>>724782646
We are using differing definitions of "faster". You taking more turns is an irrelevant notion by my paradigm.
Anonymous No.724783071 [Report]
>the burning castle section
>see all those boxes of loot
>music is giving me a panic attack but my autism wants to check every box
Anonymous No.724783264 [Report] >>724783475
>>724783005
Waiting for enemy animations to play out each turn is slower than getting more of your animations in and ending the fight sooner.
Anonymous No.724783307 [Report] >>724783589
>>724782941
What are you even talking about? The games only play similarly on a surface level. Maybe you need to work on your analytical skills.
Anonymous No.724783475 [Report]
>>724783264
That is your definition, yes. I was meaning that ultimately the progression of the game is unmodified because turns now have a waiting period between them.
Anonymous No.724783505 [Report]
Is the zoomer defending ATB really pretending you will get more than 4 hits on a boss, rather than the boss simply moving twice in a row?
Anonymous No.724783513 [Report] >>724783872
IX will always be the GOAT. Anyone got any idea if that anime spinoff is completely dead in the water at this point
>>724768337
Its the only one of the first 9 i dont like lol
Anonymous No.724783589 [Report] >>724783684
>>724783307
>surface level
>minmax gamefaqs shit that was never part of beating the game
Anonymous No.724783660 [Report]
>super boss is just walking around in a cave
>another in a suspiciously lone chest
Anonymous No.724783684 [Report] >>724783790 >>724784052
>>724783589
>leveling jobs, junctioning GFs or equipping materia is gamefaqs level
Anonymous No.724783790 [Report]
>>724783684
Keep in mind that these are people who couldn't solve Monkey Island games without a guide.
Anonymous No.724783846 [Report]
7>4>5>6>3>2>1
Haven't played the others
Anonymous No.724783872 [Report]
>>724783513
I don’t believe any further info came out regarding Cyber Group striking a successful deal with anyone to sell their works to. Now that the main dish of the IX revival project (the remake) is in question it’s become even less likely we’ll see that animated series release.
Anonymous No.724783907 [Report]
>>724768383
15 is so fucking boring, they forgot to make people care about the story
Anonymous No.724784052 [Report]
>>724783684
>leveling jobs
this is at most grinding a secondary job to the spell you want the combat is still the same, why are you acting like it's so nuanced to other atb games?
Anonymous No.724784117 [Report] >>724784719 >>724784763
Currently playing XIII.
Anonymous No.724784178 [Report]
>>724780510
Real. Only FF with good gameplay, honestly.
Anonymous No.724784719 [Report]
>>724784117
my condolences
Anonymous No.724784757 [Report]
When do you fags go for Dualcast? Late game?
Also Berserker would have been fun if it wasn't so slow
Anonymous No.724784763 [Report] >>724786236
>>724784117
nice it has Vanille
Anonymous No.724785049 [Report]
>>724768289 (OP)
Rebirthkeks...
Anonymous No.724785113 [Report]
>>724771273
>>724768912
>no customization
Even less of an RPG than XVI.
Anonymous No.724785146 [Report]
>>724780103
that's pretty bitchin
Anonymous No.724786236 [Report]
>>724784763
She has nice tits.
Anonymous No.724786654 [Report] >>724788998 >>724790684
●Train
R: You know Seifer?
S: ...Yeah.
R: Ok, let's go! Umm, Squall. Is "he" here?
S: ("He"?)
R: Seifer.
S: ...... No, he's not a SeeD.
R: ...Oh.

●Deling Abduction
Sq: ...Planning to do? (That's right... Seifer knows Rinoa. Is that why he's here?)
Z: I get it! You're Rinoa's...
Se: Shut your damn mouth! Chicken-wuss!

●Why Seifer?
R: I think...he came to help us, the "Forest Owls." I talked about it a lot with him. So please...don't think too badly of him.

●Now What?
R: How can you be so casual? I feel...sorry for him. You're terrible! So...why do you think Seifer may already be dead?
R: Even so! I still hope he's alive.
S: (Think what you want. ...Reality isn't so kind.) Anyway, whatever wish you have is none of my business.
R: ...You're mean. MEANY!!!

●Reminisce About Seifer
R: ...He was executed? ...Of course he was. He attacked the president. He sacrificed himself for the "Forest Owls..."
R: I... really liked him. He was always full of confidence, smart... Just by talking to him, I felt like I could take on the world.
Sel: Your boyfriend?
R: I don't really know. I... I think it was love. I wonder how he felt...?
Sel: Do you still like him?
R: If I didn't, I wouldn't be talking about it. It was last Summer... I was 16. Lots of fond memories...

●Seifer/Matron Boss Fight
Se: Rinoa, what are you doing here? You're gonna fight me, too? Come on, remember a year ago we...
R: Stop it!

●Post Boss Fight - Final Scene DISC 2
[In the brightened area, Squall sees Rinoa over Seifer's body.]
[She cradles him and kisses him.]
[Seifer gets up and the brightness ends. Rinoa slumps over.]

●Post 3rd Seifer Boss Fight, Final Scene DISC 3
R: Seifer...
[She walks away. Seifer jumps up as she leaves. He runs after Rinoa. In the other room, she screams.]
Rinoa: Seifer! Stop it! Haven't you done enough!? I know you're not like that!
Rinoa: ......Seifer.

●First Scene DISC 4
R: .....Seifer. No more... Please?
Se: Rinoa...

●FF8 Official Magazine Guide "Ex-Lovers"
Anonymous No.724786970 [Report]
>>724781569
You are arguing against the source material like a sperg. Nobody cares about your EOP interpretations, the source is law.
Anonymous No.724787203 [Report]
>>724781284
He's a family so it's never too late anon. Remember that nostalgia can bring people together
Anonymous No.724787416 [Report]
>>724768289 (OP)
With e33 head honcho visited SE, any chances that they give them ff8 for remake?
Anonymous No.724787548 [Report] >>724788630 >>724789346 >>724789373 >>724795054
>>724768289 (OP)
The job system system is overrated af. And so is FF V by extent.
>bro bro its so underrated
>it would be sooo popular bro if it released in west bro
>muh job system
>bro did I mention muh job system bro

>play the game
>1/3 of the roster is useless
>the other 3rd is some gimmicky garbage that forces you to grind so much you would finish the game beforehand, and relies on hidden/missable spells/abilities in order to be useful
>...while the rest of the classes have at least one skill each that completely trivializes the game and all of the bosses
So how did the devs balance it?
>"Let's just make the base game so easy that you can beat it on vanilla without any skills at all"
No wonder normalfags never crtiticize it. Because it's probably the easiest one out of the first 10 FFs.

What's even the point of having 22 classes if you don't need any of them to beat the game?
Not to mention that you can't be too creative with it either, because the ABP requirements are so high that at best you can maybe finish one class per character before the game ends. Unless ofc you grind your ass off, non-stop farming ABP. But then again, what is the point of extra grind when the game is already so easy?
It feels like there is a whole chapter of the game missing, in which you could finally go all out, instead of nerfing yourself on how-not-to one-shot every boss by accident.
Also despite having le 22 classes the white mage is still the most broken, just like in every other FF game. While berserk is worse then not picking any class at all. The balance is all over the place.
So much for "muh perfect job system".

I genuinely believe that ppl are so hung up on muh job system when talking about FF V is because there is really nothing else worth mentioning about the game.
The plot is basically generic harem isekai, where plain neet MC randomly becomes the chosen one and gets harem of 3 bitches for free to defeat le evil lord. THE END. (At least that explains why nips like it lol)
Anonymous No.724788427 [Report] >>724792867
>>724775121
I played the first edition Jap PSP Dissidia. I never played the ENG or sequels.
Anonymous No.724788550 [Report] >>724792682
>>724768462
>3
Based. Hate how everyone dislikes this one purely for the "joblock" issue this game has with maybe two dungeons/bosses
Anonymous No.724788630 [Report]
>>724787548
I just like the job system, you're overthinking this
Anonymous No.724788935 [Report]
>>724768912
IV's story is shit.
Anonymous No.724788998 [Report]
>>724786654
Teal deer.
Anonymous No.724789346 [Report] >>724789767
>>724787548
FFV is easily the hardest mainline FF game if you don't know how to break it, which isn't saying much but still
Anonymous No.724789373 [Report]
>>724787548
I played it with 4x abp to get the job perks faster.
The goal is to create various combinations, for example samurai + knight so you can 2-hand excalibur while still being able to dodge.
Or white mage + dragoon so she can be in the back row and still deal decent damage.
Anonymous No.724789767 [Report]
>>724789346
Lots of gimmick fights, which honestly the series needed more of to make you do more than just bruteforce it with leveling up.

Don't think anything else from Square of that era had mechanics for bosses that wasn't Chrono Trigger.
Anonymous No.724790029 [Report] >>724795989
Just started looking into romhacks/mods and it seems there are a ton for FF. What are some of the noteworthy ones?
Anonymous No.724790684 [Report] >>724791480 >>724792195
>>724786654
Which girl in 8 isn't used goods?
Anonymous No.724790829 [Report] >>724791490 >>724791914
>>724768289 (OP)
>final fantasy
>final
>there are 16 of them
Anonymous No.724791480 [Report]
>>724790684
none, 8 has among the worst girls
Anonymous No.724791490 [Report]
>>724790829
Haha yeah, it's not like anyone's made that joke in the last 37 years!
Anonymous No.724791739 [Report]
>>724768289 (OP)
It's just a mix of 3 and 4 with a better story.
Anonymous No.724791914 [Report]
>>724790829
16 mainline titles and like twice as many spin-offs.
Anonymous No.724792195 [Report]
>>724790684
Squall
Anonymous No.724792682 [Report]
>>724788550
Been meaning to play the og version for a while
Anonymous No.724792867 [Report]
>>724788427
Duodecim is the best.
Anonymous No.724793713 [Report]
>>724769018
so true king
Anonymous No.724793883 [Report]
I actually hate the multiple protags in ff6, if it was focused on terra or locke it would improve the game by a lot
Anonymous No.724793884 [Report] >>724794185 >>724795869
Any more job system autism games that aren't from squeenix? (I already played theirs)
Anonymous No.724793890 [Report]
>1/3 of the roster is useless
>the other 3rd is some gimmicky garbage that forces you to grind so much you would finish the game beforehand, and relies on hidden/missable

Pretty sure there the only missables are a few hidden items and chests. Also, I can't think of a single class that didn't have some ability endgame that felt really strong except maybe geomancer. Even classes that on their own don't shit out damage like beastmaster, red mage and ranger could be used to prop up other classes. FFV probably has one of the most cohesive class systems I've seen in jrpgs and when other games like Bravely Default try to ape the system, they overlook the cohesiveness that made ffv great. Literally every class makes another class better in some way.
Anonymous No.724794179 [Report]
>>724768289 (OP)
True
Anonymous No.724794185 [Report] >>724794604
>>724793884
Scarmonde is fun

https://store.steampowered.com/app/2769210/Scarmonde/
Anonymous No.724794604 [Report] >>724796571
>>724794185
Damn, they just straight up copied FF2 with that battle screen
Looks neat.
Anonymous No.724795054 [Report]
>>724787548
Holy mother of bait
Anonymous No.724795869 [Report]
>>724793884
unironically Leaf Geometry games but i only ever played the first 2 ones
Anonymous No.724795917 [Report]
true
Anonymous No.724795989 [Report] >>724797575
>>724790029
if you want to play fan games ff renaissance is really good
Anonymous No.724796571 [Report] >>724796639 >>724798432
>>724794604
It's definitely worth playing as it does it's own thing with its class design and no class just feels worthless. I remember the gear being intdresting too in that weapons and armor are more than "number goes up". I haven't played it recently enough to really give an articulated rundown on what males it good, but can say with complete confidence that the entire game feels like a lot of thought went into the rpg aspects of the game and that whoevet made it loves FF (compared to all the indies that slap "just like those old-school 90s rpgs" onto generic and shallow schlok.
Anonymous No.724796639 [Report]
>>724796571

Forgive the typos, god damn.
Anonymous No.724797575 [Report]
>>724795989
>not BALLZ TO THE WALL
Anonymous No.724798320 [Report]
>the least innovative Final Fantasy
Anonymous No.724798432 [Report]
>>724796571
I'll definitely keep an eye on it, put it in my Steam wishlist as a reminder. I liked FF2 a lot for some reason, so it being an aesthetic carbon copy does a lot for me.
But if it's also a well made, good game that's not JUST relying on that NES look, then that's great
Anonymous No.724798875 [Report]
>>724768289 (OP)
It, 9, and SoP are my favorites. Having gone through most of the mainline stuff now though, the only games that didn't wow me too hard was 2 and 8.
Anonymous No.724799192 [Report]
>>724774953
It's not ironic, and that's the best part about it, it's completely sincere with its plot. The only real issue is any character who isn't Jack or Astos doesn't get much time to develop, and a lot of the lore is squeezed into data spheres that are hidden throughout levels. But it also kind of makes sense since Jack is brainwashed to follow his orders to a T so he doesn't bother with side content.
Anonymous No.724800738 [Report]
>>724768289 (OP)
Oh wow, an OP I agree with.
Anonymous No.724800895 [Report]
>>724780103
is this real
Anonymous No.724801156 [Report]
>>724768756
I hate how the PR versions of 1-6 all look the same, same animations, spells, random NPCs
It feels like you're playing the same game 6 times in a row