Thread 724799308

Truly Breath of the Wild is a remarkable game that influenced many other prominent developers. However, does it earn the crown of greatest game of all time?

>>724799308 (OP)
what is the point of these threads

I can't think of a single notable game it influenced

>>724799364
tons of chink shit like genshin impact

>>724799363
I think it's for advertising or begging to watch YouTube videos.

>>724799364
i mean you can clearly tell smelldung ring was going to be a traditional copy paste job until BOTW came out and revitalized open world games

>>724800186
elden ring borrows from sotc not botw

>>724800186
bait
>>724799308 (OP)
its literally the most boring game ever made and it get 10x worse after the first playthrough

>>724800186
dark souls was advertised as "the open world demon's souls"
maybe in 10 years they'll release some other rehashed shit that has a gta wanted meter and stalker free roam npcs and call it "the open world elden ring"

>>724799363
tendies die unless they jack themselves off every 8 hours

>>724799308 (OP)
Other developers didn't really do anything interesting with the open world formula. I think RDR2 came out a year afterwards and it felt more dated than ever

>>724800859
Do you jack off other people instead?

>>724800943
Elden Ring is Zelda Botw coded

The only thing anyone ever steals from BotW is the stupid glider and that just ruins open world exploration

>>724802984
Only smaller moments in my opinion, in general I feel from both gamers and critics they give fromsoft way too much credit.

sega rules nintendo drools
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>>724800392
>>724800516
>>724800673

>>724799308 (OP)
The interplay between systems is really nice even if the gameplay itself is not the best. It has most of the things I would want out of a 3D Rogue.

>>724803527
>intentionally playing like a retard
>SEE THE GAME IS LE BAD
/v/igger core post

>>724803325
yes he also said rdr2 and skyrim but you didnt include that did you
his quote was that he learned from other open world games

>>724803704
He called BotW a masterpiece and was clearly inspired by it. Cope however you see fit.

>>724803527
imagine being a tendie in 2025

>>724804040
imagine frog posting in 2025

>>724803325
>>724803920
Sounds like made up fake praise these Japs do all the time for nintendo so as not to summon their yakuza goons.

>>724804358
Nice cope

>>724804448
Yes, that's exactly the sort of generic made up fake praise I was talking about great example!

>>724804507
>Its fake praise b-b-because it just is okay!
cope

>>724799308 (OP)
Yes

>>724804507
I mean, the inspiration is pretty self evident if you've played all these games prior to Elden Ring

>>724799308 (OP)
BOTW & TOTK are shit compared to OOT. MM, WW, TP. I genuinely have no idea why people like them so much. They lack everything that made those games good.

>>724804584
>>724804653
It's a sort of generic thing you say about your business partners when you don't have much else to say. "Ah yes, Nintendo-sama has created a brueprint for us all to forrow....nevarmind tose sega games they were inspired by, prease do not burn our contract miyamoto, we do not wish for a traffic accidenteru."

It's really nothing compared to what he's said about Ueda.

>>724804684
Because the new games are a departure from the formula. You know the entire talking point for the game that we got for years and years before we even got a title for the game? It doesn't take a genius to see that. Zelda fans knew it was going to be different since like 2014

>>724804448
Well, which "Elder Scrolls", you old bat?

>>724799308 (OP)
The most interesting parts of BotW were the most scripted parts which defeats the whole point of the open world.
There wasn't a single piece of "emergent gameplay" that was more interesting than Eventide, the run up to Zora's Domain, or first encountering the dragons.

>>724804841
nice head canon

>>724804894
The praise is meant to be generic.

>>724804894
Since Morrowind Elder Scrolls has been the gold standard for open worlds. Skyrim really took the genre mainstream. BotW clearly takes after Skyrim. Elden Ring builds from what both brought to the table. Such is the nature of inspiration and evolution of a genre

>>724804858
That doesn't excuse it being a bad and boring game compared to their old games though.

>>724805323
It isn't. Its really great at what it sets out to do. You probably just dislike open world games, and that's fine.

>>724803527
if you like Elden Ring you owe Zelda botw a lot. it laid the groundwork for open world RPGs moving forward.

>>724804684
>muh dungeons

>>724799308 (OP)
what a joke. its full of cringey anime weeb shit and tedium like breakable weapons and the dungeons are all shit. The only good 3D Zelda games are OOT and MM.

>>724805593
Okay gramps, I think you are due for a nap

People who like BotW and TotK don't appreciate what made real Zelda games good. They like the IDEA of BotW and the feeling it gives them, but can't point to any actual elements of the game that are good.
>music
>combat
>dungeons
>story
>characters
>visuals
None of it is actually good, but you people just like "le open air" feeling so you gloss over all the lackluster stuff. It's 90% shrines and Koroks.

>>724805881
I would call the combat pretty darn good but the rest meh to okaygood

>>724804684
4 divine beast dungeons + Hyrule castle offer more content than OOT and Links Awakening ever will

>>724804858
Much needed too. After windwaker in 2003 it was what, 14 years until the next notable title with botw? The series was basically a rotting corpse.

The old games this franchise used to be medieval Europe coded but Skyward Sword, BOTW and TOTK are all anime weeb cringe coded. I fucking hate it

>>724804894
he was talking about Daggerfall, trust

>>724805881
*People who think Ocarina of Time is the best one don't appreciate what made prior Zelda games good

>>724806362
>cant simply put that shit in game
lmao, truly a made in japan(tm) product

>>724806362
The only truly great Zelda games are LTTP, LA, OOT and MM.

>>724803325
this isn't a gotcha, elden ring utterly mogs and eclipses Bore of the Wild. i imagine the inspiration is basically "botw had caves littered all over the map so we did that too" rather than anything truly substantial, the games could not be more different.

>>724805881
>if you like new thing then you must hate old thing

>>724806574
Yeah no. Rollslop is the musical equivalent of the folk revival in the 2010s or disco. It's done now. You had your moment with your cookie cutter fad and now we can all laugh that it ever happened.

>>724806574
They both share anti map marker player guided exploration. While they are mechanically quite different, their maps are similar in that your choice on where to got next is very much guided by what you can see out in the distance. They excel at different things while respecting the player more than your average open world fare.

>>724806963
the idea that botw is better than er is laughable. an "elden ring 2" would mog literally everything in existence just like the first one did, its not even close to being over, sillyhead.
>>724807005
i dont know about that, botw tells you exactly where to go when you highlight a quest in the journal. in elden ring, your journal is paper and pencil.

>>724799364
Elder Ring, Genshin Impact, Tears of the Kingdom, Sonic Frontiers to name a few.

>>724803920
he called the other games that too

>>724807825
no shit >>724804448

>>724807741
What the fuck is up with tendies going about Tranny of the Wild "influencing" Elden Ring. Is there a quote or something. Elden Ring plays nothing like it.

>>724807571
You mean the markers that give you a very loose idea of where to go to progress? Elden Ring has that too in the form of specific graces pointing you toward the end goal

>>724807741
Not seeing it, really doesn't add up at all.

>>724807972
Why are you so loathe to accept the truth? It has nothing to do with tendism.

>>724808021
It must be strange to be incapable of seeing obvious inspirations

>>724807571
The worst ever monster hunter is a better and more honest game than anything Miyazaki shit out. You can watch this gif and understand everything there is to know about every souls title.

>>724800186
I remember them highlighting a lot of basic features that every open world game has like it's something new, they just made dark souls but open world, nothing crazy. It would surprise me if they took inspiration on it
I liked it more than Dark Souls III, not the best but fun

>>724808021
Breath of the Wild is considered by most Japanese gamers the best game ever made.

The only way someone could conclude that BotW and Elden Ring aren't clearly linked is by never having completed both games

>>724799308 (OP)
I think this is actually difficult because on the one hand TotK is superior in most ways, but it's also almost purely iterative so it can't take credit for a lot of stuff BotW did first. that said, I think the Shrines in particular are a complete and utter downgrade in TotK. literally every single shrine in the game feels like a basic tutorial, and by the time you'd think it would now give you a challenge where you have to use what you just learned, it just... ends. and this unironically just repeats 160 times or however many shrines there are. only like 1 or 2 shrines in the whole game are not like this.

also I can't help but think about how great totk could've really been if the underground had just been a mega dungeon instead of a copy of the overworld except mostly fucking empty, although scaling some of those insane vertical areas was a bit of a thrill.

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>>724808227
Just not seeing it, seems like you're making a huge leap in logic without filling in the gaps.

>>724808630
read the thread retard

>>724808727
Done, still not really any connecting throughline, just vague suggestions and leaps in logic. I think you have more homework to do before serving this faulty theory.

>>724809028
>doesn't add anything of value to the discussion
>claims the everyone is wrong without arguing on any specific point made
classic /v/igger

>>724799308 (OP)
3D Zeldas are 8~9 out of 10 without the Nintendo Bonus (NDS ones were legit 7/10's even), except for OoT, it was 9+ for the time.

>>724806567
nope, those are not the best

>>724809402
OoT is strictly worse than LTTP, AOL, and Z1

>>724799308 (OP)
Genshin is better

>>724799308 (OP)
Ruined by weapon durability

>>724810674
Totk fixed it