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Anonymous No.724804406 [Report] >>724804508 >>724804553 >>724804702 >>724804767 >>724804969 >>724805151 >>724805918 >>724805993 >>724806405 >>724806412 >>724807319 >>724807405 >>724807494 >>724807724 >>724808084 >>724808447 >>724808692 >>724808767 >>724808772 >>724809232 >>724810259 >>724812402 >>724813194 >>724813603 >>724814132
These are the best RPGs of all time
Anonymous No.724804434 [Report] >>724805035 >>724813921
>b-b-but this list doesn't include [some obscure roguelike with autistically detailed character system]

Nobody gives a fuck.
500k sold units minimum.
Anonymous No.724804508 [Report] >>724808312
>>724804406 (OP)
only 1 of these is an rpg
Anonymous No.724804553 [Report]
>>724804406 (OP)
None of these are RPGs. They're choose your own adventure novels.
Anonymous No.724804645 [Report]
replace the isometric snoozefest with the witcher 1 and it's correct
Anonymous No.724804687 [Report]
>3 out of 5 are open world
Grim
Anonymous No.724804702 [Report] >>724804806
>>724804406 (OP)
I like all those games, don't really replay BG2 at all doe
Anonymous No.724804767 [Report] >>724809201 >>724812640
>>724804406 (OP)
Correct list for 2024 (provided we exclude immsims from RPG) but you may add the update.
Anonymous No.724804806 [Report] >>724808516
>>724804702
try a solo run
or a flavour group (all dwarfs/elves/etc)
bg1 is better for this
Anonymous No.724804830 [Report]
*scoff*
Anonymous No.724804969 [Report] >>724805145 >>724805172
>>724804406 (OP)
>Demon's Souls
>New Vegas
>Divinity Original Sin II
>Expedition 33
>Mass Effect 1
There, now it's perfect
Anonymous No.724805035 [Report] >>724810506
>>724804434
>>b-b-but this list doesn't include [some obscure roguelike with autistically detailed character system]
>Nobody gives a fuck.
Based
>500k sold units minimum
what the hell do sales have to do with anything?
Anonymous No.724805145 [Report] >>724806959
>>724804969
>>Divinity Original Sin II
>>Expedition 33
Anonymous No.724805151 [Report] >>724805320
>>724804406 (OP)
RPG fans love eating shit
Anonymous No.724805172 [Report] >>724805471 >>724805589
>>724804969
What makes Original Sin w better than 1? The writing in 1 was downright insufferable and the latter half quest design utterly atrocious. I cannot imagine both improving with time.
Anonymous No.724805320 [Report] >>724805464
>>724805151
>RPG fans love eating shit
I thought shit eating was attributed to people who eat shit, ie. gachaslop enjoyers and indians?
Anonymous No.724805464 [Report] >>724805569
>>724805320
They love RPGs too
>Sir where is romance? I must fuck her bob and vageen. Pls saar add romance
Anonymous No.724805471 [Report]
>>724805172
Writing, pacing, quest design, characters, combat are all far better in 2.

1 is a 7.5/10, 2 is a 9.75/10
Anonymous No.724805569 [Report]
>>724805464
none of the RPGs in the OP contain romance

with the exception of BG2 which started this shit - but it's very tame and tasteful compared to all modern examples
Anonymous No.724805589 [Report] >>724805685
>>724805172
The writing is the same ebin zazzy Larian that is so self aware to preclude ever being immersive, and plain gross at times.
The reasons 2>1 are in the combat, such as the armor system.
Anonymous No.724805685 [Report] >>724805996 >>724806249
>>724805589
2 writing and character design are far better than 1.

1 felt like one giant shitpost. 2 is still lighthearted, but is genuinely funny and knows when to take itself seriously.
Anonymous No.724805918 [Report]
>>724804406 (OP)
>one good game
nope
Anonymous No.724805993 [Report] >>724806587
>>724804406 (OP)
>RPGs
>it's just hack and slash/fps action games
i'd wager you put BG2 for gamer cred and haven't even played it
Anonymous No.724805996 [Report] >>724806309
>>724805685
>but is genuinely funny
Yeah, having seen larian's reddit sense of humour, I have to say no thanks. One has to be a genuinely disgusting subhuman to tolerate that kind of shit.
Anonymous No.724806249 [Report] >>724816020
>>724805685
>but is genuinely funny and knows when to take itself seriously.
This is why modern shit is unplayable. Old school stuff like Morrowind or Deus Ex felt so dark, but immersive in their portrayal of the world. Today, games focus on bloom and LGBT color palettes which ruin any form of immersion and the feeling of dread which you would feel if dropped into a medieval tolkien-esque which 99% of fantasy devs try to rip off in some capacity. Even Skyrim retains some of that old school immersion through a darker color scheme.
Anonymous No.724806309 [Report]
>>724805996
>le reddit
Could have just said you were retarded.

DOS2 does a great job at humor and doesn't resort to cheap toilet humor or Borderlands/marvel tier "well that just happened..." tier writing
Anonymous No.724806405 [Report] >>724807116
>>724804406 (OP)
Personally I would've swapped BG2 for Planescape and Morrowind for Oblivion, but yes.
Anonymous No.724806412 [Report]
>>724804406 (OP)
/v/ will shit their pants at this pic yet be unable to argue exactly how these games are somehow bad
Anonymous No.724806587 [Report] >>724807071 >>724812882
>>724805993
>i'd wager you put BG2 for gamer cred and haven't even played it
if i wanted gamer cred i would have gone for BG1
Anonymous No.724806959 [Report] >>724807263
>>724805145
Kino taste desu. DOS2 refined the hell out of everything Larian had been fumbling over since Beyond Divinity, and Expedition 33 is what happens when someone actually respects tactical-layer depth instead of padding it out with RNG bloat or mobile-tier cooldown crap. Peak CRPG and peak tactical-they deserve the nod.
Anonymous No.724807071 [Report] >>724807585 >>724808298 >>724809201 >>724809531
>>724806587
Icewind Dale is the "gamer cred" option among the infinity engine games for being 99% build autism dungeon crawling.
The real gamer cred is pic related.
Anonymous No.724807116 [Report] >>724807703
>>724806405
>Morrowind for Oblivion
Why so?
Anonymous No.724807263 [Report]
>>724806959
>they deserve the nod
Sure. They can get the nod, but a top 5 best RPG pick seems a bit steep.
Anonymous No.724807319 [Report] >>724807804
>>724804406 (OP)
Kotor 1, kotor 2, nwn 1, nwn 2 are the greatest rpgs of all time.
Anonymous No.724807405 [Report]
>>724804406 (OP)
Wonderful RPGs.
Awful video games.
Anonymous No.724807494 [Report] >>724807936
>>724804406 (OP)
RPGs should not be played then.
>b-but no you can't say that!!!
Nah, just throw away the whole genre. There were 43 bethesda threads yesterday. Just send all the trash to /vg/ where it belongs.
Anonymous No.724807585 [Report]
>>724807071
Man these games had some kino covers.
Anonymous No.724807678 [Report]
Persona 3 is the greatest RPG of all time
Anonymous No.724807703 [Report]
>>724807116
The exit from sewer really hit me that hard. I got completely pulled into the world in a way that nothing I've played since really managed to do. I would completely ignore quests and just explore on my own for hours.
Anonymous No.724807724 [Report] >>724807981 >>724813839
>>724804406 (OP)
pic related. Top best RPGs by rpgcodex
Anonymous No.724807804 [Report]
>>724807319
>kotor 2
I know people like to talk shit on KOTOR 2 , bit to me it felt way more philosophical and deeper with it's theemes than the first game. First one felt like A New Hope homage in a newer setting. KOTOR 2 felt a lot more intricate with the lore and how many characters were trying to fit into it.
Anonymous No.724807936 [Report]
>>724807494
Anonymous No.724807981 [Report] >>724808330
>>724807724
>by rpgcodex
Safe to ignore then
Anonymous No.724808004 [Report]
i played vtmb recently. i liked it, but holy shit /v/ overhyped the fuck out of it
Anonymous No.724808084 [Report]
>>724804406 (OP)
>Fallout New Vegas
>Best at anything
Anonymous No.724808298 [Report]
>>724807071
>The real gamer cred is pic related.
i guess

but icewind dale can be crushed with a mage/cleric mixed group
it's harder than BG1 since it can't be solo'd without being a massive pain in the ass

all infinity engine/RtWP games are utterly broken if you throw a group of archers at them.
The haste spell breaks the game completely, which is the reason why in the original rules that spell literally takes a year off your mortal life.
With a full ranger group you get like 6 missile attacks. Only enemies with shields can defend against that - funnily enough, most enemies in both ID and BG are shieldless (that means with a low THAC0 half of those attacks will probably hit and can't be defended against - did you know that elves have a bonus on longbow THAC0? They can also be rangers.) - put haste on that group and you get 12 missile attacks per round.


Part of the reason why EE is kind of a piece of shit is because it takes that balance problem even further. It adds weapon skills (dual wielding) that are simply not made for BG1's encounter range.


>.t currently playing a BG1 bounty hunter solo run
Anonymous No.724808312 [Report] >>724808608
>>724804508
which one?
Anonymous No.724808330 [Report]
>>724807981
Why's that?
Anonymous No.724808447 [Report] >>724809201
>>724804406 (OP)
>2002
>2002
>2004
>2000
>2010
hi grampa
Anonymous No.724808516 [Report] >>724809047 >>724809442
>>724804806
tips for solo bg1?
Anonymous No.724808558 [Report]
>all that unc ahh millennial jank
lmao
Anonymous No.724808572 [Report]
Play Archolos. Fan made prequel to Gothic.
Anonymous No.724808608 [Report]
>>724808312
Baldur's Gate 2, the only one with an actual RPG ruleset
Anonymous No.724808692 [Report] >>724808848 >>724808998
>>724804406 (OP)
fallout new vegas is a choose your own adventure FPS. Fallout 1/2 are real RPGs
Anonymous No.724808767 [Report]
>>724804406 (OP)
I'm with you on Morrowind, but I prefer BG TosC to 2, VTMB is overrated as fuck, as is NV. Never played Gothic.
Anonymous No.724808772 [Report] >>724815342
>>724804406 (OP)
Replace gothic 2 with 1. Replace vtm with might and magic 6. Replace baldur with torment. Replace tranny vegas with legend of grimrock 2 then its ok.
Anonymous No.724808848 [Report]
>>724808692
What the hell kind of retarded NMA-tier mentality is this
Anonymous No.724808998 [Report] >>724809097 >>724810639
>>724808692
Fallout 1 and 2 are turn based battler choose your own adventures. Anything without dynamic, emergent storytelling and gameplay structure isn't a real RPG.
Anonymous No.724809047 [Report] >>724809442
>>724808516
I am playing a solo bounty hunter right now
take an elf and use a longbow, they get a bonus for hit rolls
dont go for "oh shiny magic weapon" if you dont have the weapon proficiency => lower thac0 >>> +1 damage

push hide in shadows early so you can do the backstab (x2 damage modifier - again it's better to have a lower thac0 than anything else cause damage output will be high because of backstabbing anyway)

use traps against bigger groups or strong enemies like wyverns

i am not through it entirely yet, but up until the cloakwood mines there haven't really been any problems
if all else fails use attack potions.
Anonymous No.724809097 [Report] >>724809378
>>724808998
Your game is shit since its oblivion with guns.
Anonymous No.724809201 [Report]
>>724808447
Yes well I posted 2025 >>724804767 and 1987 >>724807071
Anonymous No.724809232 [Report]
>>724804406 (OP)
>the game's I played in my childhood are the best!
It's all so tiresome.
Anonymous No.724809378 [Report] >>724810183
>>724809097
False dichotomy brainrot. Direction-brained retardation. Don Quixote syndrome. Choose whichever term for your mental illness that you prefer.
Anonymous No.724809442 [Report]
>>724809047
>>724808516
Also sell everything you can't use (i.e. all scrolls and weapons that aren't longbows/shortswords/whatever) and you can buy the 15k rogue armor at the blacksmith in beregost

get the scroll bag in beregost too
get the potion bag from the beregost mage (high hedge)

kill neera on sight
take her jewel bag
but most importantly kill neera (she is a fuckin retard and I hate her)

you can also get an easy level 2 if you go to the area south of high hedge and get melincamp (the talking chicken, in the NE of the area) and bring him to high hedge (get a skull from a skeleton) - you can save scum that but he must survive the transformation => 2k xp => instant level up
Anonymous No.724809531 [Report]
>>724807071
I know there’s no way to know at this point but apparently Robin Williams was an avid Wizardry player and since the developers allowed fans to send in their party on a floppy that completed the earlier games for enemy encounters my head canon is he has kicked my ass at least once from the grave.
Anonymous No.724810183 [Report] >>724811291
>>724809378
Im sorry you failed to understand what i meant by that statement. Anyway, enjoy your turd.
Anonymous No.724810259 [Report]
>>724804406 (OP)
Lmao, lmfao
Anonymous No.724810506 [Report]
>basic bitch choices for fags who never actually played these games
>2 bethesda turds
leave.
>>724805035
>what the hell do sales have to do with anything?
He's a normalfag.
Anonymous No.724810639 [Report] >>724811291
>>724808998
>emergent storytelling
just a movie game with extra steps
Anonymous No.724811291 [Report]
>>724810183
I understood perfectly well what you meant by "oblivion with guns" and "your game". You cannot comprehend reality outside fanbase wars because your brain has been turned to shit by copious pop culture consumption.
>>724810639
Movie implies a script. Whole point of emergent storytelling and gameplay scenarios is that they emerge from player agency, and the dynamic systems have to resemble a dungeon master that adapts to this. Space Station 13 is an RPG. Fallout 1, 2, 3, 3:Orange and 4 arent.
Anonymous No.724812402 [Report] >>724814220 >>724814369
>>724804406 (OP)
Gothic 1 > 2
Baldur's Gate 1 > 2
New Vegas is better seen as a survival game than RPG
Morrowind is soulful dungeon crawler
VTMB and Deus Ex are the best PC RPGs
Anonymous No.724812447 [Report]
Yet another shit list.
Page 10
Anonymous No.724812640 [Report]
>>724804767
> grief/escapism was in omori five (5) years ago
> meta worldbuilding was in pathologic twenty (20) years ago
> SMT-like resistances
> souslike scaling and parrying
> game aboun painters with graphics with no artistic direction
nah
Anonymous No.724812882 [Report]
>>724806587
so is it "the best RPGs list" or "the best RPGs list (one not so safe and potentially correct but a bit contrarian so i'll get different flavour of replies)"?
Anonymous No.724813194 [Report]
>>724804406 (OP)
Morrowind isn't even the best Elder Scrolls game
Anonymous No.724813603 [Report]
>>724804406 (OP)
Swap Morrowind for Fallout and then you would be 100% correct.
Anonymous No.724813839 [Report]
>>724807724
>rpg codex
Nah, screw those morons. I say that as someone who used to be a regular.

Also Arcanum at spot #3 is truly retarded. There is no justifying that.
Anonymous No.724813921 [Report]
>>724804434
>500k sold units minimum.
I've just decided that the metric of success is concurrent players. Sorry bud, mmorpgs are simply better than your favorite rpg.
Anonymous No.724814132 [Report]
>>724804406 (OP)
gothic 2 would be good if the controls weren't shit
Anonymous No.724814220 [Report]
>>724812402
>VTMB and Deus Ex are the best PC RPGs
nice immersive sims, but not rpgs.
Anonymous No.724814369 [Report]
>>724812402
insane post
Anonymous No.724815342 [Report]
>>724808772
Gothic 1 is not better than 2.
Anonymous No.724816020 [Report]
>>724806249
I'm with you, I usually like darker themed games as well, but DOS2 is still my second favorite game of all time, it just works for some reason. I think being tactful about when to use humor/lightheartedness at appropriate times helps.