Thread 724829097

when did gaming peak? you never know when the good times will end until theyre over

>>724829097 (OP)
Games peaked in Bloodborne, there will never be another game as good as it

Late 90s/early 00s

Gaming stagnated past Gen 7

>>724829451
>Gaming stagnated past Gen 7
I mostly agree, going back to the 6th gen you see a lot of design around limitations of the tech, while 7th gen games are largely designed pretty much the same as new games today

>>724829097 (OP)
In the early 2010s. Some aspects were in decline but gaming had a massive boom in both popularity and availability. It was widely accepted but not yet babified for the masses. The major studios hadn't finished imploding.
Things have only gone downhill from there.

>>724829097 (OP)
I can't believe I used to consume GB content holy fuck.

>>724829662
I can't believe I still do.
Nothing has been able to replace peak GB

>>724829595
feels like early 2010s were the the last time most devs could actually optimize cramming GTAV, Dishonored, Rage 1 and stuff onto the 360 and PS3, now they beg for 30 GB of RAM to make their game run

>>724829097 (OP)
2004.

>>724829774
Problem is there's always 2 or 3 group members active at any particular time that I absolutely fucking hate.

>>724829451
This

>>724829819
2005

I know this is controversial but I really do think it peaked in the 360/PS3/Wii/DS/PSP gen and not the Dreamcast/PS2/Gamecube/Xbox/GBA gen like people often say. I'm not even a zoomer.

Nextlander is the most cucked out shit I have ever seen.

>>724829948
every now and then ill check in on them and its just so low effort I cant believe people pay Brad Shoemaker monthly to do fucking nothing

In general there are no games we have today that couldn’t have been done on the 360 and PS3 just with worse graphics and longer loading times. The actual gameplay we get in games now is no different from 360 and PS3 era games.

>>724829662
Kinda feel the same. I used to watch them from day 1. I had an account the day the site opened and I used to watch them on gamespot before that. But looking back Jeff was always a rude asshole with a very high opinion of himself. Standard Californian.

>>724829948
Modern Giant Bomb is literally better than Nextlander, which is wild to think about

>>724830150
>Jeff was always a rude asshole with a very high opinion of himself. Standard Californian.
hello brad

>>724830247
Brad is a lazy retard who never pulled his weight and should have been fired from gamespot and never even hired for giantbomb.

>>724829097 (OP)
>when did gaming peak?

this year with Expedition 33

>>724830721
I would think it's a Chinese game with the amount of fucking shilling it gets

>>724829451
>Gaming stagnated past Gen 7
This
We're literally just in 7th Gen version 3.0 alpha

>>724829097 (OP)
1998-2004 was the plateau

this is objective fact and indisputable

>>724829942
Handhelds peaked in PSP and DS but I think PS2 mogs everything else and its not even closd

>>724829097 (OP)
1993-2000

>>724829887
correct

it peaked around ~97-04 roughly, but gaming is still good now. old games still exist and our access to them is better than ever. Great games do still come out even if they're not the norm
hell, a game I'd easily put in my top 3 2D games of all time just released last year.

>>724829097 (OP)
unironically 2010 ( the year mass effect 2 and new vegas came out )

Each year it got worse and worse. Only Cdprojekt kept up with the times ( unironically )

>>724829097 (OP)
Early 2000s when dedicated servers were considered a staple feature and mutliplayer games thrived.

>>724829097 (OP)
>your littel poosi belongsh to me

>>724829097 (OP)
It's been said in this thread already. But I'd say 95' to 2010. If you want an exact 10 year stretch, it would have to be 97 to 2007 specifically

>>724829097 (OP)
mid 00s to early 10s for me
it might be better before the 00s but my parents were stingy so I only had a PS1 in like 2001, so I never really experienced that era and I won't pretend like I did
mid 10s I feel like not just video games but entertainment and pop culture just kinda left me behind, like my interest in a lot of things just waned. I still find gems here and there, but I'm definitely not part of the mainstream anymore

2007

>>724829948
they are completely checked out, husk versions of themselves. jeff is only slightly still alive but not by much, honestly he's hanging by a thread

>>724832487
how old is jeff now, 60?

>>724829097 (OP)
This year if you actually play them.

>>724829097 (OP)
Dreamcast/PS2/GameCube/Xbox era was the peak, but I'd say things really started to go downhill after 2010.

>>724829948
>comments disabled
From day one I knew this shit was an embarrassing disaster.

>>724833907
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OF3RVXvqFYA&t=135s

>>724829662
Nothing will ever replace Whiskey Media era Giant Bomb

>>724835659
no gaming media for sure

https://youtu.be/zW5r6KF8XSk?si=KHq34CoBVbvWXJ4I&t=61

>>724835878
The original GB crew is a product of a bygone era, I miss when gaming magazines were still a thing and E3 was this super exclusive event for press

>>724835659
Ryan was to pure to endure what was to come

>>724836920
>Ryan's been dead 12 years now
>died right at the end of gen 7

>>724829097 (OP)
Yesterday. You just barely missed it, it was great.

She got a penitentiary body

Playstation 2, objectively

>>724829097 (OP)
early to mid 00's

>>724829662
Jeff is a phenomenal game journalist. Ryan and Vinny were fun, Dan brought great gimmicks for a couple years, and everyone knows "blinking white guy" meme.

>>724829662
giant bomb was fine until the office split. good even. i stand by the opinion that they never recovered from the split. it was never the same afterwards and was around when i started tuning out.

>>724829097 (OP)
>Super Mario World 2 is awful
Fuck Jeff.
I still like his NES ranking streams.

>>724832487
>>724833030
50.
Just had a kid a few years ago with his wife.

Early through mid 2000's.
Technology got much better but judaism and jeets hadn't overtaken the industry. It was still understood the main audience was boys and developers actually cared to appeal to them.
2004 had more good games than the ten years before or after it combined.

>>724829097 (OP)
I think it's highly subjective, for me they peaked around 2016 with Dark Souls 3. If it weren't for FromSoftware I'd say 2004 - 2007.

>>724829451
Pretty much. I think the only new "innovation" to gaming since then as been better multiplayer I guess, otherwise it's just the same formulas with a new coat of paint.

>>724837786
all because Alex need to go back to jew york city

>>724829451
7th Gen was the cancer that killed vidya
At least the AAA companies that created that cancer are finally dying out.

>>724837924
i always thought it was because vinny's wife wanted to go back to new york too though i could be misremembering. vinny becoming a lame dad was also a fucking major goddamn bummer.

>>724837853
Red Dead Redemption 2 was the most disappointing game of the year.

jeff just streams in his room now and probably wonders why he even bothered trying for all those years

>>724838045
I just like to blame things on Alex, Vinny talking about his house was also somehow very captivating

>>724838095
he's not wrong though, he was wrong when he changed his mind. RDR2 is boring

>>724829097 (OP)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HSZNELa52iU

>>724838101
giant bomb was at the forefront of so much stuff in personality based vidya media and they squandered it all because jeff is lazy. i love the dude but i 100% believe most people from GB ghosted him because he was just a lazy abrasive prick a lot of the time.

>>724838261
I like how he tried to big league GB then went off to just do... whatever he does on Patreon

>>724838253
>i love the dude but i 100% believe most people from GB ghosted him because he was just a lazy abrasive prick a lot of the time.
they just did a 24 hour giant bomb stream and I dont think they had Jeff on, the only people he seems to be good with still are Ben, Abby, and Dan
>>724838258
lmao, the GOTYs were so good. Ill never forgive Brad for filibustering Skyrim getting GOTY instead of Saints Row The Third

The only funny thing to come out of modern GB was Ben's voice turning demonic over a voice call

>>724829097 (OP)
>1995-2005
Rapid expansion of games, lots of experimentation, unique gameplay, transition into 3D, etc.
>2005-2015
The internet becoming commonplace leads to a gaming-focused online culture that's universal and full of relatively intelligent people, lots of unique social aspects to games we'll never see again
>2015-2025
Volume of games becomes truly massive, indie explosion means there's unique games in pretty much any niche (as long as you aren't looking for multiplayer, since everything dies instantly due to oversaturation.)
>2025-2035
...

What is left for gaming? That's the real question. I can't see much really happening

>>724838296
I think he only did the electrical/editing/camera stuff for GB because they were friends. Once he got enough support, he went world traveling as a photographer.
I think, I dunno how that went.

>>724838247
NOTHING STOPS THE GAME ROOM QUICKLOOK

>>724838486
>you know why it's going black
>that's the game thinking

>>724838514
SKIN PEELINGLY BAD

>>724829097 (OP)
RIDER MEET HORSE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tb97Ahy0NNg

>>724838253
jeff equated managing GB as a nightmare he finally woke up from so... i think hes moved on.

>>724838436
He was the video guy in the background. I don't remember exactly he may have even been an intern in the beginning but he bounced off everyone just fine so slowly started showing up in stuff until he was basically a normal member of the team. Some of my favorite GB content to this day is stuff with Drew and Dave.

>when did gaming peak
Between when I was in Middle School and leaving College.

>>724838665
yeah a "nightmare" that made him rich as fuck while being a lazy asshole who just talked about and played video games. sure, whatever.

>>724829942
Absolutely not. This was the generation that normalized paying to use your internet, releasing unfinished games and patching them later, on-disc dlc, and it was when Sony stopped making videogames and started making shitty movies. The Wii, PSP, and DS were all 90% shovelware and extremely overrated systems, as well. This was literally the first bad gaming generation since the crash in the 80's.

>>724837937
.

>>724829097 (OP)
halo reach release.

>>724838735
>draw
incredible
two titans

>>724829097 (OP)
Everything between NES and the end of the 360 was good. It's just been regurgitating itself ever since.

RIP Ryan.

>>724838735
THIS is one of the best giant bomb mario party moments. nice pull

>>724830834
>Good game
>Gets talked about alot
Same thing happend with BG3
It will happen with other games too
You will also complain about those games without playing them to be contrarian as well.

>>724838735
>I HIT IT!! I HIT IT!!
>You get NOTHING!

>>724838247
>This is TERRIBLE!
>People deserve to know...
>NO! NO THEY DON'T! THEY DON'T NEED...

>>724838258
The whole "hire Abby" was very definitely just
>Vinny: "She looks exactly like my wife, just 20 years younger!"
That's it.
That's Abby.
The split gave Vinny too much.

Jeff and Vinny playing through Persona 4 together.

>>724838684
Oh, I know and agree about that; Drew was a very calm, smart, quiet guy who stayed behind the scenes. I also found it humorous how when they had guests - all the girls loved it when he was around.
I could never really tell if he was gay. Bi, at least.

>>724829097 (OP)
L4d2
That was the last time people talked and added people and had fun
Now everything is 100% seriousness and autistic silence and even when you hard carry there's no awesome no dick no thanks dude

JUST
SILENCE

I would be Abby's dream daddy any day.

ryan died to drug overdose after a 3 day binge during his wedding
fat drug added losers

>>724840027
He died of sleep apnea

>>724838253
>giant bomb was at the forefront of so much stuff in personality based vidya media and they squandered it all because jeff is lazy. i love the dude but i 100% believe most people from GB ghosted him because he was just a lazy abrasive prick a lot of the time.

Alex and Jeff are literally childhood friends, he got his job at Gamespot through Jeff. The reason Jeff got ghosted is because being a good friend doesn't make you a good boss. Jeff owned Giant Bomb and clearly mismanaged the shit out of it, and in the end he got to go away with a big payday for selling the site while everyone else was left in the dust, that probably leaves some resentment. Jeff has even talked about the difficulties of being the boss of your friends

>>724838690
Developers learned from them.

>>724838850
>you need a precise tapping surface made by fatal1ty
god dammit

>>724829097 (OP)
mid to late 00s was the peak of creativity and technological evolution in the medium

>>724837078
>Ryan's last recorded words were "vinesauce? ugh..." in the game and wario video

>>724839750
Ryan we're summoning Satan

I miss Giant Bomb so fucking much

>>724840027
>watching old gb vids
>ryan says he took 3 xanax on their flight to liverpool
you might be on to something

>>724839647
>Vinny's wife

>>724840115
lol i forgot jeff ran with the money. thats what probably did it.

>Jeff was one of the first people to do Let's Plays, abandoned the idea due to ego.
>Jeff was one of the first people to close in on the idea of video game wikis, squandered it by trying to be VideoGameTropes
>never figured out youtube success

theres probably other stuff he was on the forefront of, but yeah its pretty sad how much he squandered all that. he wanted to skirt this line of being a real deal journalism site and video game content production, when he should have just abandoned all the gay journalism trash. he had so many connections though, so he couldn't i guess. i also don't see a universe where i want to read up on every video game use of C-4, or every video game water level unless it's a youtube video

>>724837878
In Soviet Russia;

>>724840664
I remember rumors he was smoking opium but people didn't want to talk about it

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zW5r6KF8XSk
Take me back

>>724840814
idk that sounds alil farfetched, maybe if he had a chinatown hookup but i did drugs in that time period in the bay area and no one did opium, it was all ecstasy and weed mixed with coke

>>724840052
Given the Cali location, the OG crew made friends with Hollywood people, sometimes.

>>724840560
post the one with Drew throwing a water bottle perfectly at Jeff

>>724840896
Ryan seems the type to have a Chinatown hookup, drugs are everywhere. I smoked opium in like 2015 in North Texas

>>724840896
Chinatown don't mind

>>724840796
They did seem to steadily wane off how much they cared about the journalism stuff, but having been and continuing to be involved with the industry as only a journalist is was a big part of what kept them distinct from the fuckton of "creators" who followed them.
>i also don't see a universe[...]
That shit was just letting the autistic weirdos use the framework that was built to make an actually good database.

>>724829097 (OP)
2004-2006

2003
EA buys westwood studios
I've bought maybe 5 games since then, and pirated over 1000

>>724840796
they caught that first podcast wave too, and progressively got much worse

Giant Bomb never recovered from hiring Patrick

Yeah, I need one of you autists to give me a quick rundown of what everyone is doing

>Jeff: Streams occasionally to 200 sycophants. Managed to score a thick latina wife, 2 kids.
Has he actually completed the balding process? How has he had wispy thin hair for 25 years now?
>Vinny: Nextlander or something idk, I hope he's happy, I understand he chose family over being cool and funny, I get it. It's also genuinely sickening to me that Nextlander videos have comments disabled. I hope he cheats on his wife constantly with young NYC bpd pussy and she never finds out.
>Alex: Who cares/Nextlander
>Brad: I genuinely forgot he existed until I racked my brain. I have not heard 1 thing about him after GB. I still like Brad, but I find myself not caring what he's doing
>Abby: I watched her shitty youtube show once and it made me want to kill myself.
>Dan: Doing fine/I don't care
>Drew: Did okay with Cloth Map, hopefully doing cool things and what he wants
>Mary: She is married to me.
>Austin: I forgot this mother fucker even existed
>Patrick: Somehow still, the snowy picture is what I think of when I think of the word "annoying snot nosed faggot"
>Jason Oestricher: Forgot he existed/Is he dead/blind yet?
>Matthew Rorie: Forgot he existed/Is he in jail for dogfucking yet?
>Ben Pack: Holy shit I forgot this mother fucker existed/GB was really scraping the bottom of the fucking barrel towards the end/Is he dead yet?

>>724840560
They were confident guys. They'd already been through a heckuva lot of public shame.

Decades later, when I hear the word CUNT I still think to myself "OH WHAT DID I GO TOO FAR? CUNT CUNT CUNT CUNT C-C-C-C-CUNT"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qU71mFo0WXQ

>>724829942
maybe for xbox and handhelds, but ps3 and wii are objectively worse than their predecessors

>>724840796
There's no joke about it; he was definitely OCD and cared far more about organizing his games than making money off Internet fame. Good or bad, Jeff only "played along" and had little problem selling off anything unrelated to gaming.

>>724841417
i share your opinion on Ben, Patrick, Austin, Jason and Rorie. Can't believe I ever let these people annoy me.

>>724841417
funny enough mary is working with twitch and trying to put out fires on the daily, i think its a much worse existence than these other bozos living off nostalgia donations

>>724840796
The only good video game autism wiki is IMFDB

>>724841735
>Mary at twitch
She's getting sexually harassed daily by fucking smoothbrains. Sad.

>>724830721
its goty but its not better than any of the 3d squaresoft FFs

>>724841785
yeah she's the first line of defense for 'creators' jesus fucking christ it hurts me to type that and their communities or something, so she definitely deals with parasocial retards all day. that one alexis guy also works or worked with twitch and developed their entire chat system (irc chat or whatever)

>>724841417
>How has he had wispy thin hair for 25 years now?
He destroyed his scalp by bleaching his hair. He has discussed this.

>>724841265
EA owned their ass by 1998 fagola

What killed GB was a good 6 year period where Jeff couldn't wrap his head around anything that wasn't an FPS.

>>724840880
>>724836046
HOLY FUCK
>1:29
>CRT television is a SONY WEGA
I HAVE THAT TV!
No, like, it's RIGHT THERE in my living room. It's, like, 20 feet away from me.

>>724841785
why would you feel sorry for a tw*tch employee?

>>724829097 (OP)
>when did gaming peak?
i honestly never felt like we peaked before the emergence of AI. now though, i fear this era right now is the peak before we plunge into an age of darkness. i've actually started to appreciate older games more now because i know every model, texture, instrument, light source, enemy placement, and sound effect was handmade or hand-chosen by a real human artist.

>>724841882
I had a 720p CRT trinitron that I left at an old house because it weighed too much and I didn't want to lug it down the stairs. Still mad about it.

1998
>Ocarina of Time
>Sonic Adventure
>Metal Gear Solid
>Half-Life
>Resident Evil 2
>Xenogears
>F-Zero X
>Marvel vs Capcom
>Banjo Kazooie
>Warioland 2
>Pokemon Stadium
>Spyro the Dragon
>Tekken 3
>NFL Blitz

>>724841862
Sorry you're right '03 was when they got merged.

>I now remember fat Brad arc
>I remember Brad's pedo joke on Vinny

In hindsight, Brad was good.

>>724841417
I understand Ben hate but in the end I grew to like him

>>724842017
>I remember Brad's pedo joke on Vinny
Was it something about Abby? I don't remember that.

>>724842027
I couldn't bring myself to give him a chance.

watch kish play downwell, she a cutie
https://archive.org/embed/gb-2300-10955-IDPAERU?start=2397

>>724842017
>>I remember Brad's pedo joke on Vinny
what did he chris hanson him

>>724842027
Ben would have been cool if he had a normal voice an didn't say "my partner" every other minute.

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>>724842068
I held on to the giant bombcast for longer than i should have, he had plenty of time to chisel away at me

>>724842047
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CFaAj4WtKb4

It doesn't make that much sense. It's so weirdly edgy coming from white bread Brad.

Jeff was always funny because despite being from California you can tell he had kind of a trashy upbringing. I enjoy his stories about when he was living out in a house in the sticks with collage girls when he was like 30. Throwing parties, getting drunk and shooting guns.

>>724842163
Yeah, I always say this. Jeff was absolutely poisoned by SF/California. If he didn't have that influence in his 30s, he'd really have done great things comedically. Quick witted as fuck.

Remember when Ryan said "faggot" on Unprofessional Fridays?

>>724841683
>backwards compatible
>"objectively" worse
why do retards always misuse objectively

>>724842163
the story of him not hearing the cops walking in while playing burnout 2 or some shit and then being thankful he wasnt holding the duke controller

>>724842238
>>724842230
>>724842163
Jeff and Ryan before corporatism and drugs were too powerful a force and had to be stopped by our faggot overlords.

>>724842238
to be fair, he was being a faggot

>>724842238
Remember when Mark Ruffalo read his tweet about Avengers?

Gaming cannot get worse as all t he good stuff from the past is still there and good new stuff comes out occasionally. Until they start deleting good games that are old -and I mean really taking them away not just liscenses running out- gaming can only get better.

>>724841951
I'll be honest, I'll never let this tv go... but I haven't done anything with it (or any television, I own 3) for, like, 9 years. Because I don't watch tv programs and I don't stream/rent movies.

But I feel for ya, bro. A 720p CRT is outrageously awesome. And heavy.

>>724842298
chris with the white truck

>>724830721
>AIslop33
yeah no acquire some taste

>>724842361
>Until they start deleting good games that are old
You realize that this is currently a point of discussion in legislation because it has been happening enough to be a problem, right?

hairy jewish abby pussy

>>724842598
>Abby "Racy! I like it!" Russel
>Abby "Pirates eat ass" Russell
>Abby "That guy can suck my dick" Russell
>Abby "In the street all the time on the subway everywhere I see men's dicks all the time" Russell
>Abby "Full strokes, base to head" Russell
>Abby "We all watch porn" Russell
>Abby "Hey, I like to fuck" Russell
>Abby "The treasure was her fucking pussy" Russell
>Abby "Cum in a coffin" Russell
>Abby "If you don't know what goatse is, Google it" Russell
>Abby "You can't go half in on a tossed salad. You gotta commit to it all the way" Russell
>Abby "I have no excuse for my hardon" Russell
>Abby "Is he gonna fuck his ghost wife?" Russell
>Abby "Pull the panties to the side" Russell
>Abby "Tickle the taint" Russell
>Abby "Give him the shocker" Russell
>Abby "Wrestling and porn is the same thing" Russell
>Abby "I bet it's a fuck dungeon" Russell
>Abby "Ass is good" Russell
>Abby "Pair of titties" Russell
>Abby "Dolphin dick [wheezing laughter]" Russell
>Abby "Do wasps fuck figs?" Russell
>Abby "Hey. Google D-O-L-P-H-I-N D-I-C-K" Russell
>Abby "Almost won a bootylicious competition" Russell
>Abby "Here we go this is some fuckin music" Russell
>Abby "I just hope he cums while shooting someone" Russell
>Abby "I would like that 'I brake for pussy' bumper sticker" Russell
>Abby "There are a lot of boobs in this movie good job" Russell

>>724842154
>Well, some people call it my "leg."
>...Max doesn't count.
WHOA

>>724842530
wow, cool.

>>724842756
Thank you for admitting that your post was wrong.

>>724829595
>early 2010s
>not yet babyfied
LMAO the zoomtard thinks his minecraft generation wasnt the epitome of normified toddler gaming. adorable.

>>724842336
I can't remember if it was on Jay Leno or which late night show. >>724840936

>>724842894
rat fucker jimmy kimmel aired that

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_cv5xJFIns4
I want to go back

>>724843063
Her complaining about horny games is exactly why I took note of that shit she has said.

its seriously not a debate. there will never be a bigger jump in gaming than 2d-3d. there will never be a more creative or influential era. there will never be a time more densely packed with timeless classics and GOAT tier games. just look at these 9 fucking games, each one of them practically spawned their own genre. I couldnt even manage to fit goldeneye 007 or SOTN in there

>>724843068
I'd post
>lemme take a look here...
35 other webms about some of my favorite GB clips, but "sound" is evil on not/wsg/.

>>724843136
ironically isnt dream daddy a horny game on some level?

>>724842163
These are 3 transexual men.

>>724843068
>they broke tetris
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bTTX81VdC1A

>>724842817
oops, meant for
>>724842317

>>724843304
start a thread on /wsg/ fuck whatever thread you kill probably dogwater anyways

>>724829097 (OP)
>please please please play Rumbleverse, my boyfriend Dave Lang worked really hard to make it
What did Jeff mean by this?

>>724844061
he likely had stock of dave lang's dev studio looking back on how much they shilled his slop

The moment I stopped tolerating Abby was when she asked what Final Fight was. I wondered from that point on why she was even there.

2007, the year of the white man
they got too powerful

>>724843063
Nier isn't a good game though. I don't get why Alex was defending it so vehemently, or it's soundtrack.

>>724844061
Been following Jeff a long time. I can't understand why he lies and says Keeper is a good game. He even wrote a fucking review for it, and he hardly ever does that anymore. fuck that game, the 10/10 NYT review MS bought for it, fuck MS for everything, fuck doublefine for barely trying anymore, and fuck jeff for giving that piece of shit any exposure at all. Finished it out of spite.

>>724844217
they were just buds, same with brad muir even tho he never made anything good
>brad muir is working at valve now
hope he doesnt fuck up deadlock

>>724844587
>, fuck doublefine for barely trying anymore
you think they would with how willy nilly MS fires people
>>724844634
was brad muir the harmonix guy?

>>724844841
he was a doublefine guy, they shilled his tower defense mech game hard

>>724844634
>brad muir is working at valve now
success really is 90% connections huh.

>>724839750
I forgot how often they made perverted jokes during this

Not that I'm complaining

>>724845003
it was a different time.

>>724839990
Abby was legitimately hot. Too bad shes a dyke now.

>>724840115
Thats just makes it even weirder that they dont keep in touch. Not even colabs.

>>724844841
Nicrosoft has never fired anyone who didn't deserve it.

>>724845381
Remember that time she showed off her ass in boxer-whatevers on the official channel as part of an e3 vlog?

>>724837878
Isnt that a lil too old to have a kid?
Like the chance of autism skyrockets and you will be old fart by the time he is 18

>>724844337
>Console slop
Garbage

>>724845614
Thats when the women is older, idiot. Old men knock up younger bitches all the time.

>>724845605
I remember the screencaps
>>724845614
can confirm my dad was like 50 when my parents conceived me and Im crippling autistic

>>724845779
Same but he was like 38

>>724845749
This. A 38 year old woman's eggs are 38 years old. A 50 year old man's sperm are like 2 months old.

depressing thread

>>724838258
Probably a yaoi addict

>>724841138
heh

>>724843319
She's probably a gay porn / m/m addict, so hates hot women but loves hot men.

anyone else watch the p4 endurance run every year

>>724849825
I revisit it from time to time, usually just the highlights because it feels like a bit too much of a time investment otherwise. S'good.

>>724847328
Abby is unfortunately a lesbian.

>>724829226
Unironically, 2015 was the end. Cyberpunk 2077 is pretty good but it didn't have the zeitgeist Witcher 3 had and it's not really better. 2014 was when gaming crashed, over GamerGate, which was, I believe, a CIA psy-op happening because of fear of the genuine power and autonomy of gamer culture falling too far outside of the political game-plan, and Bloodborne and Witcher 3 were just backburner releases from 2013 that got finished and shipped. They were the final games. along with picrel. That also really marked the end of times.

>>724849964
>Cyberpunk 2077 is pretty good
lol!

>>724844061
>Wow, the Tony hawk 3-4 demake is really amazing, give these guys the Tony hawk license!
His friendship with lang remains a giant embarrassment, iron galaxy is a terrible studio.

>>724829226
That was the crescendo. But for many years before it, there were large swaths of terrible games. There are very few 3d games that are in any way shape or form as 95/100+ games.
PS1/N64 era had the introduction of A+ 3d games. PS2/Xbox had the peak of 3d games and then the 360/PS3 era was trash. Then Bloodborne came out by itself. It was the only good game of the era.

>>724846270
It's so crazy people are trying to push the meme that older men are the cause of autism in children when said older men are married to women that are just as old and have been carrying their eggs their entire life versus the new batch of sperm men make constantly. It's like westoids can't stop being misandrist even in relation to basic biology

>>724845779
How old was your mom? I can tell she already had dead eggs.

>>724842238
Yeah and he immediately issued a written apology.

>>724835659
jeff was in on the ground floor of friend simulator and was so lazy he fucked it all up multiple times

>>724841417
>I get it. It's also genuinely sickening to me that Nextlander videos have comments disabled.

why? they've never dealt with criticism ever

on the old GB forums anything that wasn't immediately deleted was drowned out by the forum cult members

>>724840740
>>724839647
Lmao holy fuck

>>724840740
>>724839647

>>724855231
home/road yentas

>>724829097 (OP)
I've never liked this fat cunt in fact I've never liked any gaming website other than /v/

>>724829097 (OP)
1995-2005 was the peak IMO
2005-2015 or so was the worst IMO
things aren't so bad nowadays, as long as you avoid AAA

>>724855368
what's that in English?

>>724829948
I find it crazy that with three people they can barely eek out a two hour podcast every week while Jeff as a solo act can easily ramble on for 3+ hours and have far more insight into whatever gaming news is happening at that particular time.

>>724855931
jeff really likes listening to himself

Gaming is peaking right now! Video games has never been better than ever with truly amazing and stunning visuals that make your jaw drop, and gameplay that looks so polished and fluid you'll question how we ever got to this point. Can't forget to mention the amazing portable devices like the Switch 2 and the Steam Deck. With these, we can now play games like The Witcher 3 on the go! How amazing is that?! Gaming has truly come a long way from its humble roots as a small 80s fad that was viewed as nothing but a toy, and had it not been for Nintendo literally SAVING the entire industry back then, we wouldn't have video games at all, and I wouldn't know where I'd end up in my life. Crazy how stuff like that works out. I'm a gamer, not because I don't have a life, but because I choose to have many. Happy gaming everyone :)

>>724855931
>>724855987
yeah. jeff is alright, if a little full of himself

>>724855931
the 3 of them are rarely there at the same time

>>724829097 (OP)
mostly with the ps2/gamecube/xbox in terms of consoles. there are still a few good standout games released every now and then but that was the most consistently good era.

>>724839990
without curls

>>724841417
Drew works at Twitch, last I heard. He said he wanted to do streams where he tries out games on his backlog, but he only did it the one time.

>>724858765
Drew was doing video production at Digital Eclipse after Cloth Map but left last year.

>>724840108
...which tends to happen when you use alcohol and antihistamines to sleep after staying up for 3 days. It takes a level of sedation to not get woken up by choking on your own fat windpipe

>>724839990
>>724839647
She looks like Patrick on hrt

>>724839990
WE KNOW

>>724855931
Some people just have that ability to constantly verbalize a train of thought without repeating themselves like Northernlion

>>724829662
unprofessional fridays were cozy as hell

>>724829097 (OP)
I'd say the 2000s. Hardware was fast enough to experiment, and also unexpensible so it was adopted by the masses. This allowed for a HUGE torrent of games. Today hardware is way faster but also more complex and expensive, which made console/PC gaming more niche.

>>724860907
This but Mario Party Party

>>724829662
I still listen to Jeff's podcast for some reason. I even would sometimes still watch gb stuff up until he and the next lander guys split off. I actually have more respect for modern giant bomb than nextlander.

>>724829662
the persona 4 and deadly premonition endurance runs were pretty good

all went to shit when patrick got hired

>>724829097 (OP)
Mid-PS3 era. Right before online passes became a thing

>>724845456
It's so cucked how they pretend like there isn't a giant elephant in the room. They grift off 40yo parasocial man children but won't even acknowledge how mommy and daddy got a divorce.

It's all so cringe. I can only imagine the average Nextlander viewer. 40yo discord tranny janny groomer shit.

>>724858975
>Does video production
>Claims he's a game developer who "makes games" because of this
Uhh, stolen valor? I know the globohomo studios are like "everyone is a gamedev, even the receptionist!". But that's just bullshit.

>>724864102
he's always been a scammer, look at what he did with cloth map

>>724862743
Nextlander is just TDS: the Podcast. Yeah, guys, tell me how you can't enjoy the old Super Mario Bros movie anymore because Dennis Hopper Koopa reminds you of Trump. That's definitely what I tuned it for.

>>724829662
These faggots wouldn't even let me delete my account when I thought they were past the point of no return. Changed all my profile pictures to goatse and that sorted the issue out.

>>724864801
Lmao do they really talk about Trump and politics on Nextlander? I thought it was supposed to be some turbo safe space.

I expect low grade grumbling, but not explicit discussions. That's just how gamejournos are. They're constantly micro virtue signaling to each other about how they hate drumpf or whatever. Like background radiation, reflexive at this point.

>>724863596
Brad does a tech podcast with one of the old whiskey media tested guys, Will Smith. He seems way more into general computer stuff like open source software, pc hardware and networking than he does video games. Ironically will seems more into video games than brad. I think he just does nextlander to pay the bills. They all are tainted by living in cali though, something about that place just makes you seem out of touch with the rest of the country the way they passively aggressively bitch about the current political climate despite having a very secure material life. For example, I hate when people talk about EVs like they are a no brainer and you're a bad person for not owning one when the reality is most people can't even afford a shitty used car now that they cost 10k minimum.

>>724865093
Oh boy a podcast with two middle age guys talking about their EVs. Kill me.

I've been rewatching the Demo Derbys recently. Good times.

>>724865062
>I thought it was supposed to be some turbo safe space.

it is, they can say whatever they want and never hear a dissenting opinion

>>724829097 (OP)
When UE5 came out.

>>724829097 (OP)
i remember getting bored of my favorite online game in like 2006, right before it fully died forever
i didnt realize how good things were, i never thought it wouldnt be there to just play later
*sighs* can we make a new internet yet?

>>724829097 (OP)
About 04-07

>>724837878
They have like 3 kids now

Has anyone been keeping track on how many times Jeff says "weird" in every video? I swear it must be like 30+ per video.

>>724842298
>>724842472
Murder slingshot.

I remember tuning into solo Jeff about a year back, and the first thing I heard when entering his stream was him crying about GTAVI being set in a "republican state" and how that sours the game.

He's so out of touch it's just embarrassing.

>>724866019
this whole board is just as obsessed with politics. you can't really act like you're any better.

>>724829097 (OP)
I can point to the specific game that sent gaming on a downward spiral.

1)It killed dedicated servers: before this game multiplayer gaming was between the player and the community that he could find in the public server of his choice. This created a friendly environment where the community itself was in charge of setting the limits and enforcing its own rules. Cheating only existed in servers that didnt have active admins and what was considered acceptable behavior was determined by esch community.
MW2 killed this and normalized multiplayer being between the player and a giant corporation that would hist servers and choose how could you behave and who you could play against.
2)It was the first AAA game to be made for consoles and then ported to Pc and not the other way around. This meant that every game from now on had to be developed with console hardware limitations in mind. So, while developing for PC meant the gameplay limitations were limited by the kewyboard bindings, after MW2 you had to stick to just the inputs that could be handled by a controller. Same thing with graphics, no point developing anything that wouldnt run on the ancient hardware of current gen consoles.


DLC: before this game, map packs werent even a thing, developers just released free shit with new patches.


So in a few words, this game killed old school multiplayer-community based gaming and changed it to a profit seeking-corporate bullshit- lowest common denominator hobby.

Jeff is honestly more miserable than /v/ now. All he plays is annual CoD and bitches about every other game that's released.

>>724829097 (OP)
90s - early 2010s.
Xbox live was peak multiplayer and we will never ever get something magical like that again thanks to trannies and feminisim.

>>724866019
I don't remember that kek. I listen to him still, more out of habit than anything because I simply don't want to bother trying to find a new vidya person to listen to. He usually spends first five minutes saying nothing, ad break, the next half an hour talking about being a father, ad break, then MAYBE 20 minutes about actually playing new vidya, ads, then the next hour and a half is news and emails. He doesn't bitch about politics that much but what does bother me is his clear bias towards people he has personal relationships with. Iron galaxy being one of them where the one guy is a friend of his and he softball interviewed them right before their terrible last of us pc port and then said nothing about it selectively next week even though that would absolutely be a topic he would kill time with normally

>>724866280
How many people complained about GTAV being set in a "democrat state"?

It's such a nonsensical point that it even transcends politics. He's a retard.

I know GB went to the shitter for the longest time but is there some improvement now that they are independent?

>>724866458
when was this? it was kind of after party for E3 or some shit?

>>724839647
>>724840740

>>724829097 (OP)
end of last year
>concord
>dustborn
>veilguard

we won't get a lineup like this in a while

>>724858765
>Drew drinking different drinks on camera
>Just 'cause
I can't tell his orientation...
https://i.4cdn.org/wsg/1762183885918987.webm

>>724837546
Sound
https://i.4cdn.org/wsg/1762184339502106.webm

>>724838735
In reality, developers for this minigame wrote code that "if players reach 75 jumps, end all inputs and stop the game." It's not possible to continue and the minigame forcibly ends.
Also, sound.
https://i.4cdn.org/wsg/1762184496290550.webm

>>724841869
>What killed GB was a good 6 year period where Jeff couldn't wrap his head around anything that wasn't an FPS.

I think the first time I really noticed there was something wrong with them was when they started playing nothing but Mario Maker for hours at a time and giving it glowing reviews and making it game of the year or some shit because their fans were constantly making shit for them. I remember reading YouTube comments (which were generally just an echo chamber glazing their balls) where even there people started to say how the GB team's experience with the game wasn't indicative of everyone else's and how it felt a little dishonest.

>>724829097 (OP)
around the early 2010s
at least when we talk about AAA
and in part due to 3 reasons:

1 - the c-suite suits and middle managers imposing stupid shit that crippled developers artistically along with their creative control
2 - braindrain by the suits who pushed out actual visionaries and replaced them with activistic pink haired yesmen (they both deserve one another as far as im concerned - both are leeches in this space)
3 - complacent consumers - they allowed things to spiral out of control and the suits just went along with it pushing the amount of shit they could get away with - even though some of us warned time and time again this how things would escalate

gaming journos also fucked it up for all of us

>>724866821
Yeah, some E3 after party. This trio shows up, like, 4 years in a row (and other GB shows). Jeff and Dave Lang were buds.
It's also the same year as the little guy got fired because of some completely drunk/evil/criminal? text he sent someone that he shouldn't have. I forget.
https://i.4cdn.org/wsg/1762185216856226.webm

>>724829097 (OP)
Objectively 1990-2015. You can go even erlier to rogue (1980) if you want but everything after 2015 was just misery-porn. Even graphics somehow managed to regress.

>>724868865
yeah I remember the boys being little tipsy and goofing around and that was a no-no

>>724869452
If you took the middle of those years you get 1998 and that was the peak

>>724829774
>>724829851
Remove Patrick and Alex then maybe
Dan was actually bringing fun and positive momentum

>>724870000
The hate Dan got from some people is something I'll never understand. Yeah, he was loud and had some shitty opinions sometimes, but the dude injected that much needed energy and optimism to everything he did.

>>724868865
THE WORD CUMSLUT

I don't know at this point if I wanna watch a bunch of older dudes playing video games and talking I'll just watch the NLSS

Halo marathons were super copfy. I didn't even like the games.

>>724871283
They did, like, a 24hr live stream for a holiday and they played something like 4-6 hours of Halo during that. Whenever Drew was playing something (on UPFs), it was some sort of simulator. Usually transportation or Halo.
He did a Metal Gear Solid with Dan, too.

>>724870338
Dan was the only one on the GB crew who understood that they're actually in the show business. At times he felt like the only one actually pushing for trying new shit. Dan is probably the reason GB is still alive to this day

>>724873105
giant bomb died when ryan died. then died a second death when the office split.

>>724837078
I am the exact age Ryan was when he died. And I have nothing, I've done nothing, I am a colossal failure, alive but not living. Ryan is dead but remains living through the fans

I miss watching their e3 streams like 10 years ago with friends, staying up late at night watching their after shows.

ive lost contact with every single friend from that era. Life is somehow better than it was back then but also infinitely shittier in many, many ways.

>>724873173
>Dan is probably the reason GB is still alive to this day
Someone should stop him, then.

yesterday

>>724873336
Truth.

>>724865803
"...and whatever else." (I've started doing this more, to my chagrin).
"...and what have you."

>>724873105
Unprofessional Fridays was what I really knew Giant Bomb for.

>>724873336
>then died a second death when the office split.
the beastcast was better than the bombcast and that's counting the abby era. Vinny, Jeff B, Abby, Dan had great chemistry together, and I still miss that pod. Nextlander is nowhere near as good because Brad brings it down, Alex works but not if the other guy you have to balance him out is Brad...

>>724868865
What was the name of that Lurch asshole with the melted face in the bottom left? God I hated that fucker so much. Enough so that I couldn't watch anything with him in it. Dysgenic asshole.

>>724874851
Ben
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VR-5fbpX66Q

>Nu-Bombcast
I can't stand any of the new people. I've tried listening a couple of times, I can't make it more than 5 minutes before I turn it off
>Jeff Gerstman podcast
Dogshit. Solo podcasts are horrendously miserable
>Nextlander
Brad ruins it.
>Fire Escape Cast
Actually good

I was a premium subscriber back in the day, laughed my ass off at vinny playing second life, that's still something I think about from time to time. Apparently he's still with GB along with Dan? I would have expected Dan to jump ship ages ago.
Can someone drop the lore on me of why Jeff left?

>>724876636
Vinny is not at GB.

>>724876636
>Can someone drop the lore on me of why Jeff left?
Company was sold again. Jeff was about to jump, company got word, then he was pushed.

>>724876720
Huh. I just clicked on the channel and saw Vinny/Abby/Dan play Donkey Kong 64. Guess that was a guest thing, then?

>>724876820
They had 24 hour stream with guests as a subscriber drive.

>>724876636
I thought Dan bought Giantbomb. Him and Jeff had a little stream where they talked about it. They found it very funny Dan ended up running things.

>>724877637
Dan is a part owner, yes. They bought the company from Fandom.

>>724877637
What the fuck

>>724877786
>retard that got married in a taco bell and was shocked he had to pay thousands in taxes on it

lmao

>>724873449
I'm 40 now but at 34 I already had my beautiful (fat) big-titty wife, my first son and of course my lovely home and two cars.

>>724829097 (OP)
Gen 6
>Before influencers/ streamers, and before games made FOR influencers/ streamers
>Before social media
>Before normies becoming the target demographic
>Before retarded culture war shit including woke sbi nonsense
>Before games started to get bloated production cycles
>Before subscription shit
>Before mobile, gachas, gaas, etc
>When you can tell developers had fun, and put as much content as possible into each game
>When games not uncommonly featured things like ng+, extra content for those with sava data from certain games(like transferring all your lost kingdoms cards from 1 to 2, or trophies in melee)
>When style was more important than graphics, and games felt truly unique in part because of those different styles
It's not even close. But with all the forces at play in the current landscape, if it ever gets better, it's gonna get way worse before so
Genesis was my last Sega
360 was my last Xbox
4 was my last PS
Switch (1) will be my last Nintendo for the foreseeable future
I'm not going to settle for and pay for games, redefined genres, and trends I don't find fun just to stay relevant

>>724829097 (OP)
Funnily enough, as a CRPG enthusiast we’re probably in the middle of a second peak. There was the BG1-DAO “BioWare/Black Isle/Troika” era, and now we’re in the “Larian/Owlcat/Obsidian(more talking Pillars and Tyranny here)/a bunch of others” era. The downswing of CRPGs coincides closely with the 360/PS3 boom of the console market which is probably the golden age for a lot of people.

>>724877994
He just lucks into everything. I hate it.

I want to go back to 2012 so fucking bad.

>>724829097 (OP)
Indie gaming has never been better
AAA gaming has never been worse

>>724875935
Fire escape has too much friend simulator bullshit for my liking. Just talk about the games I could not give two shits about Mary or Dan or that other guy's personal lives.

>>724837786
>>724837924
>>724838045
>>724838149
Vinny falling from fun FMV drunkard dad and morphing into no fun time Thisisactuallyhannakuhnotchristmas dad who lets his wife control everything is the worst part of GB for me. You can watch him slide slowly downward over time. FMVinny is peak Vinny. Post fatherhood Vinny is garbage. He parents his kids like a classic nofun Jew mom.

>>724840796
I honestly don't think he cares. He values freedom to do whatever he wants and feels like doing more than he values being a big shot. Also, he thinks himself a genuine vidya journalist, and he is still a part of the remnants of that dying industry. He gets a voice in the Dorito's, for example.

>>724839647
I fucking hate Abby so much
>I don't think Ghostbusters 1 is funny and I don't think many people find it funny these days.
>I know how to shave better than men do, men should ask women advice on shaving instead of their dad.
>haha, hey everyone just to let everyone know.. I'm queer!
Plus.. how does she manage to live in New york on her own when she apparently only does freelance work? How does she manage that exactly? I get trustfund vibes from her.

>>724880205
What do you expect from him? Ever since he got caught fucking Abby his wife has him by the balls completely. The man just wants to be able to see his kids.

>>724880205
eh I disagree, I still love vinny

Jeff is still good, and it's a shame he doesn't have anyone good to bounce off of. His solo show is boring and the guests he brings are aids.

He always needed a Ryan or a Vinny (NOT A DAN) to shine

>>724879593
never been a better time to play video games

>>724841417
Brad is an old man
Vinny is an old man
Alex is a faggot
Abbys a rugmuncher and was never a real gb member
Drew is a closeted faggot for sure.
Dan owns GB now and rules the world.
Mary is hot but a drunk
Austin is a douche
Jason is fat
Ben Pack is a cuck.

>>724879593
Close

Indie single player gaming has never been better
AAA gaming has never been worse
Multiplayer gaming hasn't been this bad since the early 90s

>>724880669
>I still love vinny

why? everything that made vinny vinny is gone

>thread isn't about gaming or the culture gamers cultivated
>thread is about like&subscribers and the culture they cultivate, as well as the normies who enable them who are unable to form their own opinions
grim

>drew got married
>to a woman

>>724862743
Show me one other remotely respectable games journalist who can pull from 30 years of experience to speak on games and the industry at length for three hours in a solo podcast while keeping it entertaining and I will listen to them instead

>>724881413
Based. TFD TKD TND

>>724879593
its going to be interesting how conceited suits will react one the untouchable AAA industry eventually collapses before their eyes
meanwhile indies and AA continues to grow in popularity year on year with steady momentum
they'll knock those 'untouchable' giants over before they see it coming

>>724829097 (OP)
Oh the bigger guy

halo 3 was the peak for sure

>>724881413
Drew seems like annoying try hard the more I learn about him.

gaming is doing well
everyone can make their own game and even if it is a dime a dozen, most of these experiences are satisfactory and cheap, unlike 60 dollars AAA slop

we've never had it better than this

>>724829097 (OP)
So what's the rules for eceleb threads and how do I only make the ones that don't get deleted?

>>724882220
GB is videogame related content for anyone that isnt a fucking faggot.

>>724882220
jannies used to hate giant bomb threads back in the day. they were deleted constantly.

>>724882220
Eceleb wasn't even a word when they were running GB. Respect your elders.

>in my 30s and the memories I associate with my 20s is being inside watching content creators like giant bomb and gametrailers
What a worthwhile life, the memories I reminisce over is watching others watch e3. I should kill myself

>>724882774
holy shit huber looks completely miserable now
i havent seen pics off since his huber hype shenmue segment and e3 of dreams reveal and reaction
guy needs to get himself outta this situation

>>724882967
He did a stream like the night his wife dumped him and it was rough to watch

>>724882340
videogames.com

>>724882774
im 35 and i remember watching E3 and the roadtrip there with jeff when he was on gamespot. It was the best...

>>724883223
Thanks for unlocking a memory of me going to the library to use the internet and look up videogames only to have some smelly white guy lean over and give me a list of video game related sites to check out.

Thanks smelly guy. You smelled but it was okay the sites were good.

>>724883223
>it redirects to gamespot now

>>724881490
There really isn't one, that's why I still listen. I already know what games I like so new coverage is kind of pointless I'm more just interested in the happenings of the industry itself more and few people have that kind of perspective that he has.

>>724830721
based

If I could just live one more day in 2007
Just one more
God, how did it all end up like this?
Time just kept marching on, without mercy

>>724829097 (OP)
Peaked early 00's with the PS2 era. Began to decline with the Xbox360 era. Don't mistake decline to mean it was all bad though however. Still had gems coming out every now and then with the likes of Bioshock, ME trilogy, RDR etc. Around 2013 however it was in full terminal decline with the PS4 launch and gaming hasn't been the same since.

Coincidentally the decline in video games coincides with the decline in the internet. 00's internet was just absolute peak. A fucked up part of me even misses Gaia of all things. Anyone remember when prior to reddit, the go-to insult on 4chan was "gb2gaia"?

>>724886827
>A fucked up part of me even misses Gaia of all things
we were all kin, if only we could have realized how close we were

>>724886827
The 90s and 00s internet is the peak of "we didn't know how good we had it"

>>724887245
It was a much better than whatever the fuck things are now. We were just nerds and outcasts. As opposed to whatever this culture war and corpo slop bullshit is that's taken over literally everything. I can't even stand this site and haven't really cared about it for near enough 7 years now.

>>724887927
I miss the early internet when you had to be an actual enthusiast who knew how to use a computer to get on it

It was a simpler time when dudes were saying nigger on message boards with their real name attached to it

>>724887927
we lived through a peak era of humanity that only a tiny slice of the world experienced. a cultural exchange the wealthiest aristocrats in human history could only dream of. something that amazing may not occur again for centuries.

>>724888840
member when normal people still didn't really understand the internet and we had shit like Ron Paul campaigning in WoW

>>724889235
Man I remember when CSI did an entire episode on Second fucking Life. That was 2007 and feels like a fever dream now. And a year before that you had the South Park episode. It feels like a fever dream now.

>>724829662
I went back an rewatched all the VinnyVanias and it was painful. They are so bad at video games and have the worst opinions I don't know how I took these people seriously.

>>724891405
>VinnyVania
May I present to the class that one time Austin was funny
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AjQuzv8uwK8

>>724891579
I think Austin can be pretty funny and charming a lot of the time. Shame he broke his brain with idpol shit. I can't believe how much they hated Bloodlines though! Its so easy and charming!

>>724891965
He was still better than Abby and was at least able to articulate his stance on things

>>724829097 (OP)
Video games, faggot, VIDEO GAMES!