Thread 724844784

>steals your money in exchange for virtual revokable licenses
>becomes woke and starts censoring things payment processors say to censor
>start censoring even nudity on their store page

You aren't even trying to hide that you're literally one person samefag spamming every day especially when you post the exact daily spam images back to back like that.
It isn't even up for debate that you're literally one person doing this

Go woke Go broke. Wokeness is shoving censorship and feminist agenda because it's obscene. Porn games make females upset.

Steam is the best thing the video game industry ever had. We were very lucky with Valve and Gabe. Physical distribution was so much worse and greedier it was unreal.

>>724845174
this fan art is worse than anything the creator could make, good god

>>724844858
>Gabe knows
Hes gonna be so fucking safe its unreal. I bet he has a small PMC.

>>724845453
True steam has been great for pirates and steam deserves to be stolen from with recent events. It's a great thing to steal from steam.

They deserve to be stolen from for being pro censorship and bending the knee to payment processors instead of shutting down steam disabling the purchasing of games for a week until people protested enough against the payment processors.

First its adult content and rape games women don't like, next it will be political censorship on wars and countries that are not to be slandered and then hate speech about hurting game devs feeling in the discussions.

>>724845296
>Porn games make females upset.

i think most women are fine if you want to waste your life playing porn games. less gross incels hitting on them

>>724846191
the women getting upset are femcels you retard.

>>724845026
The difference between anti steam and pro steam posters is one side is posting objective facts with no feelings attached thus can't be argued against and other side is spewing subjective and broad claims followed by claiming everyone else is commie and marketer for rival corpo (notice the contradiction here)

>>724844858
you mean like the same 30% every other platform (sony, Nintendo, probably m$) takes?
>>724845174
yeah? nice observation, faggot. pirates have more freedom and ownership than even retro consoles because the games can be copied to an infinite number of drives or cloud backups

>>724845659
I mean, 80% of the games on Steam wouldn't even have had a chance to exist back in the day. All this ‘censorship’ looks like nothing to me. It will be noticeable for a while but then everyone will simply forget about it.
It's not that Steam is the only distributor of PC games, I'm not against porn games at all, I just want them to go somewhere else, like Itch or something.

>muh steam invented loicences!!!
easiest and quickest way to out yourself as a retard, its always been like this. even in during the day of the disk.

>>724847570
Back in the day, these games would all be freeware on some guy's blog with no expectation of making money

>>724848460
the difference is that nowadays gamedev takes so much time that you kinda need an income from it if you want to keep doing gamedev.
it aint the flash era anymore buddy.

>>724848460
>these games would all be freeware on some guy's blog with no expectation of making money
You're delusional if you really think that. A lot of games wouldn't exist if it weren't for things like early access and Kickstarter, people simply didn't have the opportunity to even make games.
For most indie developers it's not even about making money and getting rich it's just about having something to eat while you work on your game.

>>724848908
Spoken like a true gen alpha retard who wasn't around during that era.

>>724846318
>no feelings attached
>pls validate me every single day :'(
spam is spam regardless, stop flooding this board with your emotional horseshit

>>724849127
You are proving him right

>>724847702
Then if owning never meant owning the actual game data on the disc then pirating never meant stealing because its literally not theft. Nobody respects copyright law because the DMCA is a 25 year old piece of garbage. No other actual first world country gives a shit about copying files it harms no one.

>>724850516
the only reason it works the way it does is because of how ownership works, and how nobody's actually tried to legally clarify how digital ownership works outside of the shitshow that is copyright. if they just said "you own da game" then it'd give you legal right to copy the code and resell it.
licenses are explicitly so that you can own the right to play the game while not giving you the right to copy and resell.

>>724844784 (OP)
>steals your money in exchange for virtual revokable licenses
I willingly pay for my licences, just like you willingly pay for your licences you get with your game cartridges/discs that can also be revoked at any time.

>becomes woke and starts censoring things payment processors say to censor
>start censoring even nudity on their store page
Sex-obsessed normalniggers get the rope. Good riddance.

50% of New & trending are at all times porn games, which means a lot of people play them. If steam starts cracking down on them someone else will step up and make the profit steam refuses because of "ethical" reasons, what a fucking joke.

I'm tired of fake outrage.

>>724850679
Good luck trying to rework licenses on my physical media lol lmao.

timmy its time to stop posting

>start selling oatmeal
>design a packaging with a girl's fat ass front and center
>try to get it stocked in major supermarkets
>they won't agree to sell your product unless you change the packaging
this is censorship
this is fascism

why does one private corporation make people this mad?

>>724850928
>physical
>"I hereby take away your loicence, goy"
You can keep playing in a lot of cases, unless the game needs internet connection. You're pirating, by the way, it doesn't matter if you have a disc, because according to the TOS you agreed to you don't own its contents.

>digital
>"I hereby take away your loicence, goy"
I download a crack or the whole game from internet and keep playing. I am also pirating.

The difference between the two is uhhhhhhhhhhh...

>>724851139
Difference is they literally can't enforce revoking of license for physical media outside of breaking into my house to destroy it.

If i have old piece of shit game with starforce on it i can play it whenever regardless how publisher and developer thinks about it, if i have new piece of shit game with denuvo i can get rugpulled at any time and i can do literally nothing about it because piracy is dead.

>>724846318
keep coping lil nigga.
Show me what other platform has cloud saves, built in mod support, and a screenshot hub/cloud.

>>724844784 (OP)
Where's that faggot from the anti-Steam thread yesterday trying to say CDPR isn't vastly superior to Valve?

>>724851379
They don't need to touch your physical game to revoke it. The disc doesn't matter at all. If they know at all that you exist, they only need to send you an email saying "we revoke your loicense, goy", that's literally all it takes.
Of course, if you bought a single player game on a disc, never connected it to internet or anything, then they don't know that you exist. On the other hand, they could make a general official statement that revokes everyone's licences.
But the main point is, whether or not they're able to actually do it, you do not own the game. Unless maybe if it's a game released in the early '90s, before they started doing this.

>>724851139
What tos is someone agreeing to when buying a physical game in a store? Also how can physical products you buy be revoked? I doubt you are a legal expert.

>>724847570
>I mean, 80% of the games on Steam wouldn't even have had a chance to exist back in the day.
If you have seen 80% of the games on Steam, that WAS a good thing. Steam shovels slopware to slop people while censoring everything that isn't corpo dreck or that slop

>>724844784 (OP)
To be fair, you're just buying a license on GOG too. It's just that the installers are easier to back-up.

>>724851139
>>physical
>>"I hereby take away your loicence, goy"
They can't. The existence of a physical object means there's an irrevocable license inherently attached to that physical object. They can take any service the software depends on away from you but they cannot take the software itself away from you.

>>724851736
these statement means nothing without a source or specifying what that liscense is.

>>724844784 (OP)
Not long now until cloud saves and other services will go behind a subscription fee.
The only reason they haven't yet is because they're still growing userbase, but the growth is slowing.

>>724851757
they literally can.
"Physical" media these days is tied to the internet. Like 90% of the physical games you buy are just telling your console to install the game from the internet. There's nothing on the disc other than that.

>>724851950
zero of my 30+ PS5 games require an install from the internet

>>724851950
Then that's not a physical copy of the game. That's just a digital copy as well.

>>724851930
It won't happen, valve isn't answering to shareholders that need earnings to go up every quarter, it's a private company that's already printing unlimited money from the steam store. Per employee they're already like one of the most profitable companies in america.
>>724851991
just wait until next few gens chud. Physical sales are already rock bottom, in like the next decade or two I don't even think consoles will have a disc tray desu.

>>724851810
This is AI but I think it summarizes things well: "Buying a game on GOG is closer to ownership because it provides DRM-free, offline installers that are not tied to the platform's existence and can't be revoked. This contrasts with buying a license on other platforms, where access can be lost if the service shuts down, a license is revoked, or you get banned. While you technically still buy a license for the game on GOG, the inclusion of a permanent, downloadable installer gives you 'ownership' as long as you save the installer files."

>>724852235
well, if that's true then it sounds fair to me.

>>724844784 (OP)
>Raging about this every day
That's nice. I still don't care, and only came into this thread briefly to tell you your permanent tantrum makes you look retarded.

>>724844784 (OP)
>>724844858
>>724844896
>>724845174
>Epic shill melting down because the latest Fortnite season is a flop
Many such cases! Sad!

>>724853945
>it wont be much longer until timmy needs to choose between paying his shills or offering free deals
wonder if he'll work for free. chances are he already does

>>724844784 (OP)
>becomes woke and starts censoring things payment processors say to censor
>>724845296
>Wokeness is shoving censorship
Do you retards not grasp that losing access to the most used payment processors is a death sentence for any company that sells shit? That's why companies cave to PayPal, Visa, and MasterCard. Worse yet, this isn't a "woke" issue because right wing groups do the same shit (see: National Center on Sexual Exploitation, formerly Morality in Media).

>>724844858

>Does nothing

They're literally redefining how people find new games to play so you don't have to spend millions and millions on advertising and get lucky just to hope someone plays your game.
https://store.steampowered.com/news/app/593110/view/507342099205587494

Valve do shit like this a few times a year, and have done for decades now. Shit like this is why no one wants to use another store front. Because stores like Epic actually don't do anything to earn their 30%.

>>724844784 (OP)
>steals your money in exchange for virtual revokable licenses
You aren't forced to buy steam games, just go and find your physical copies like a good boy
>becomes woke and starts censoring things payment processors say to censor
How's the store going to work if there's no good ways of paying them? Using crypto and mailing them cash?
>start censoring even nudity on their store page
Wow they don't want to show nudity when a large portion of steam users are underaged, you can still go ahead and search for your gooner games with tags.

Why are we not making these posts about epic store or humble bundle which do the same shit but worse.

>>724844784 (OP)
>literally no good alternatives
Cope and seethe.
>>724851578
The CDPR that made a pro-ESG video? That CDPR? The one that owns GOG, who begs for money and hires people to shill on 4chan with the money instead of making their store decent?

>>724852694
I don't know. It's starting to look intentional to me. Like, this is supposed make people who say Valve is censoring things are crazy, that kind of thing. Picking a no-name game no one cares about was part of that since it makes it easy for everyone to dismiss the entire thing, instead of latching onto a popular IP that might generate actual discussion. They WANT you not to care about this one so they can keep up the association of Valve's censorship as something nobody cares about.

>>724855274
>just stop playing games, sweaty :3

Most other points are fine but the payment processor one is kinda dumb. Entire countries have bent the knee to Visa and Mastercard, ironically one of the few countries not to is India.

>>724855336
GOG leveraged its position as the most successful game store and made Visa and MC apologize to them, lest they not get the trillions of dollars a month worth of GOG sales.

>>724855335
Now I'm 100% convinced because that is not the intended takeaway at all but you still immediately attacked a post noticing a problem with the narrative anyway.

>>724844858
>defending scummy multi-billion dollar corporations
a new low for /v/

>>724855391
The problem is that these threads are constant. There's usually multiple at a time. Any shit Valve delisted was due to the payment processors. There was no choice outside of just not using those payment processors, which is death for a platform.
As for the user choice, it's Steam or
>shitty store with no games, a bad launcher with slow downloads, and web downloads that are even slower
>shitty store with games, but an even worse launcher
>shitty store with a few games, but a worse launcher
>three shitty stores with only their games and shitty launchers
>consoles
So Steam is the only option, and it's not going away. These threads are made multiple times a day every day, and not a single person has been swayed to dump their libraries so they can have a worse experience. The threads hinge on people caring about things they don't care about on top of it.
>shovelware got delisted!
Don't care.
>casinos for children!
Don't care.
>paid mods!
Don't care.
>the POOR POOR DEVELOPERS pay 30%!
Don't care.
>DRM!
Don't care.
>muh ownership!
Don't care.
>2 more weeks!
Don't care.

>>724844858
>not only for relaxation, the vessel will also support scientific research
as usual, valve even does multi-billionarism right
>yeah im not going to use this constantly
>hey you over there! you can borrow this for science from time to time

>>724844784 (OP)
And yet I can buy Sleepless on Steam. Checkmate, atheist.

>>724851757
they can, but they cant force you to get rid of the disk
just like they can take away your loicence for a digital game but cant force you to delete it from your PC.

I'M A STEAMIE, I LOVE SLOP!
I DON'T PLAY 'EM IF THEY FLOP!
GABENCUNT STOLE ALL MY GAMES,
BUT IT'S ALRIGHT 'CAUSE STEAMIE SALES!

>>724856008
so how much does timmy pay you, anyways?

>>724856008
Imagine ritualposting for years and not accomplishing anything. When's the last time you played a game? When Windows 2000 was still supported by Steam?

>>724846191
Women are absolutely disgusted and terrified of the idea that men they deem "unworthy" (ie. under 6 foot, less than an 8/10) could be happy.

>>724856030
>>724856040
seething steamies LMAO

i even wrote a song about you
https://voca.ro/1e9i6g3n4Zpc

>>724856132
>malicious link
No thanks, thirdie.

>>724855617
good goy

>>724844784 (OP)
>virtual revokable licenses
After 10 years you just get it on a preloaded flash drive for your chinese retro handheld.

>>724850928
>>724851379
>>724851757
On a console where sony, microsoft or nintendo owns the hardware and software, thy can easily revoke your license. The moment you go online, the console will see that your license has been revoked and refuse to play that disc/cartridge again.
>I just won't go online
Then have fun playing broken and unfinished games with no access to day 1 patches or DLC I guess. I'll be over here on my PC with my backed up games Valve can't touch while still getting updates.

>>724856170
>vocaroo
>malicious link
I don't know what this thread is about because I just randomly saw your post while scrolling /v/ page 1 but holy fuck you're a newfag if you've never been in a vocaroo thread
Don't bother replying, I don't care about your shitty argument in here and will close the thread

>>724852235
What's stopping me from backing up my Steam games? Nothing. All it takes is one ctr+c ctrl+v to a different directory and using goldberg for the games that have Steam DRM.

>>724856370
That's just how smart the average steamie is. Steamies are lower than indians in intellectual.

>>724844784 (OP)
>steals your money
You willingly gave it to Valve.

>>724856350
If your game needs day1 patch it is shit by default. Physical media on consoles ended with ps3 and even that is a bit of a stretch. PC "physical" media is held together on that front by decrepit pirate scene that amounts to scripkiddies slapping goldberg on whatever is readily available and gog.

>>724846191
>less gross incels hitting on them
then why do they spend all day whining about these gross incels not caring about their holes?
it's almost like men not caring about her holes... reduces her value

>>724854661
If chuds could read they would be upset

>>724856976
I am becoming so uninvested from society that not only am I unaware of most of popular culture, I don't care because it doesn't interact with me.

>>724856370
No valid link ends in anything but .com, .org, or .net.

>>724844784 (OP)
>starts
>suddenly
Steam was always shit but you reddit tourists were too caught up with the Gaben worship meme to notice.

>>724857374
>no alternative exists
Guess I'll keep using Steam.

>>724856583
>If your game needs day1 patch it is shit by default
That pretty much leaves out all AAA games, and indie games often can't afford to do physical releases.