Thread 724891843

>Ace Combat 2 - wow cool plane, shoot bad guys

>Ace Combat 3 - is becoming one with the digital world the next stage of humanity? is an uploaded consciousness still "human? or merely something pretending to be alive" are we truly motivated by ideology, or is it just a justification for baser desires?

>Ace Combat 4 to 7 - wow cool plane, shoot bad guys

kill all belkans
fpbp

AC8 should really bring back branching storylines

Ace Combat 3 also has NTR

>>724891843 (OP)
Based electrosphere truther

>>724891949
You can't FPBP your own post, dude.

>>724891843 (OP)
>Zero
DO YOU SEE ANY BORDERS FROM HERE? WHAT HAVE BORDERS GIVEN US?

>>724893356
Tragic that faggot trotskyite didn't burn to death in his cockpit.
>I will nuke 8 cities to create le globohomo

>>724893497
You're even more retarded, he hates every government because they're shit

I preferred IL-2 Sturmovik. I had an Ace Combat on PS3, the one with the F22 Raptor. It’s the plane version of Call Of Duty. Just an over the top battle scenario with non-stop action for the ADHD man baby.

>>724892628
Interesting. Please elaborate.

>>724893720
>the F22 Raptor
That's like saying "call of duty with M4A1".

>>724893628
How does killing mostly civilians fix this? Better to use a belkan superplane and just do pinpoint strikes on banks and parliaments and stuff.

>>724893725
The antagonist (Dision) gets uploaded to the net and watches himself fugging his gf. Also the guy who created you (yup, the protagonist is an AI) was hella mad because he was in love of Dision's gf

>>724893818
>on PS3
Oh no, he played Ass Horizon...

>>724891843 (OP)
best fly simulator game of all time

Whether it's arcade games or flight sims, the focus is always mostly on US and Russian planes. When is it Eurotriangle hour?

>>724893720
You unironically played the worst AC game ever made
captcha KYS ya

>>724892969
anon, he just did. It's over...

>>724894264
MORE TRIANGLES

>>724894264
Try like Zero or 5, large selection of lawndarts

>>724894264
That, and also we need to push a generation back. We already got MiG-21, Draken and F-104, give us Corsair and EEL too.

WHERE IS ACE8 KONO?

>>724891843 (OP)
ENTERING
ELECTROSPHERE

>>724895071
What would the superweapon of a 1960s/70s Ace Combat be?

>>724895859
a Zeppelin?

>>724891843 (OP)
The actual plot of ac3 is it’s all the revenge fantasy of some incel that got cucked

>>724892453
>branching storylines when modern Ace Combat doesn't even support HOTAS nor rebindable keys/buttons

>>724891843 (OP)
>side with Dision until the end
>shoot down Keith and Erich
>blow up General Resource and Neucom
>SIMULATION ABORTED
>see 2 minute FMV where you get to see Simon seethe over Dision cucking him AGAIN
>Dision realises he and Nemo are in the cuck revenge simulator
>have to manually break out of cuck computer into the Electrosphere with your bro by fighting a massive gauntlet of antivirus programmes TRON style, with an escape sequence made from a mash up of all the levels
>escape into the real world to NTR Simon again
What could have been if Namco wasn't cringe.

>>724897360
8 should be a “remake” of 3 but it’s not the simulation. 8 even looks like a 3 you can work that into the logo

GUESS THE NAME

>>724894024
Dude cucked himself and got mad about it, hilarious. I liked him freaking out when he realizes what you are, too.

>>724897360
>>724898282
8 should take place right after Simon finishes running the simulation and turns Nemo loose. Since the faceless protagonist is the one thing Simon's simulation couldn't have predicted, it's you fucking over all of Simon's plans by preventing the Intercorporate War in the first place
Nemo is the final boss after Simon gets sick of your shit and sends it after you instead

>>724898514
ACE COMBAT 8
[REDACTED]

>>724891843 (OP)
>>Ace Combat 4 to 7 - wow cool plane, shoot bad guys
ace combat 5 razgriz was good

I remember playing 3 and then replaying the Japanese version with English patch. Jesus what the hell were they thinking when they ported it to the West

>>724893720
> It’s the plane version of Call Of Duty.
kek yeah you played the American version made specifically for CoD babbies. It's rightfully never been mentioned again, even in AC retrospectives by the devs.

give us weapons
to destroy russian aircrafts
this will help us to end war sooner and kill more russians

japan was on some trans-humanity flow in the mid 90s. they were seriously evaluating their place in the world, being the center of the technological revolution and taking humanity to the next stage, which wasn't going to well for them at that time.
ghost in the shell also called in to question the very nature of human memory itself, and supposed whether data is a sufficient replacement for human memory

>>724899401
Japan has been living in 2002 since the 1980s

>>724898731
It got butchered for Europe. Almost every cutscene was removed, making it even more nonsensical.

>>724899501
2002 was pretty great I don't blame them

>>724899401
All that high minded speculation of how AI was going to change humanity forever in the 20th century. Would it transform us into machines? Wipe us out in divine judgement? Meet us as equals? Well, now the AI revolution is here... it helps third worlders produce low effort dopamine slop to farm engagement,

I actually prefer the Skynet ending.

Ace Combat 5 - War bad, peace good, do I need to remind you how bad war is? Fuck war.

>>724899931
Ace Combat 7 - war bad when robots do it

>>724899657
yes giant corporations use it to generate money from nothing, which they use to subvert entire nations

>>724898731
The game was very expensive to make, but disappointed financially in Japan.
As a result, they slashed the budget for the localization so hard that they had to cut the game down. It probably didn't help either that the PS2 was almost out by the time of the western release.

For the sequels, they went back to cheaper and more straightforward games.

AC3 is still the most ambitious game in the series

>>724899657
For millenia, those in power couldn't live without those pesky peasants. They needed them for so many things. But gradually over time, they made it so they needed us less and less, starting all the way back when we domesticated livestock, and slowly escalating until we hit industrial revolution and went into overdrive with automatisation. We have automated physical labor, we have automated agriculture, we have automated factories, we have automated computing work, we have automated banking and service industry, and now we are automating thought and entertainment. We are close to the point where the only humans that are still needed are plumbers, because it's a surprisingly complex and multi-fauceted job. I will not apologize for the pun.

the game controls better in the western releases

>>724897357
uuuuuuuugh? I played AC7 with a hotas

>>724898665
Isn't Nemo the most overpowered protagonist in the entire series
>literally DELETED Rena's memories mid air just to troll Dision
>hacked into a Neucom superplane while dogfighting it, THEN TOOK CONTROL OF IT AND FLEW IT IN PERFECT SYNC WITH ITS OWN PLANE
>>724900283
>>724900154
Too ambitious. They absolutely should have waited for the PS2. You knew they were already hard pressed trying to squeeze FMVs on 2 CDs and the gameplay suffered for it (5 minute missions suck.)

>>724901032
I'd like AC8 to combined modern smooth controls with AC3s vaguely physics based flight model that doesnt feel totally on rails

>>724899657
Anon you don’t get it all we currently live under the real world equivalent of skynet it’s just very very homosexual. the economy and politics are done via gay ass algo AI. The “elite” are unironically doing the equivalent of a third worlder asking grok

>>724901138
the cutscene to gameplay ratio in AC3JP is insane. you'll watch 10 mins of cutscenes and conversations to get only 2 minutes of gameplay.

>>724891843 (OP)
>skipping Air Combat
Fake fan

>>724901225
I'm absolutely sure that someone noticed this and used it as a reason to Namco execs for them to cut down the western release
>>724901267
>skipping arcade games
secondary

>>724898731
They correctly thought
>let's get rid of this gay story shit and put all the good missions into one campaign

>>724893818
>>724894271
>>724898768
Assault Horizon.
I’m glad to find out it’s widely considered as ass shit. I love aerial combat and had never played Ace Combat then was put off the whole series by it.

>>724898514
Ace Combat
Defense Horizon

i want them to go back to AC1/2's music style so bad some day

>>724891843 (OP)
I really liked the scene where Dion was cucked by this flesh self in front of his digital self
made me chuckle

>>724901556
Sure the arcade game inspired Ace Combat but I'm actually talking about the PS1 release that's technically the start of the Ace Combat series.

>>724901935
SOMA if it was good

>>724898282
8 has to be the prequel to 3
or at least cover a bit of the time 3 is taking place
7 basically ended where the corporations take over, so 8 has to either be the war the corpos take over or a bit after it

8 should have you play as a merc and not a war hero

>>724902114
I'd like something focused on space flight. Presumably a space elevator wouldn't be built if Strangereal didn't have a large space economy. Bring back scramjet missions in low orbit, and make the big scary villain superweapon an Orion Drive battleship.

>>724902485
Fuck no. The more the series treads into sci-fi shit the worse it'll be.

Electrosphere's OST shits on the rest of the series.

The same guy who wrote 04 was also in charge of 5 & 7. How does that happen? Struck gold the first time and it turned into melodramatic crap.

>>724902379
Straight up villain protagonist would be fun

I want more attackers. AC7 only had 2

>AC7 and ACX happen around the same time frame
>7 does not acknowlege anything from X
>not even porting the Fenrir model from Infinity

>>724902805
ehhhhhh
Execution, Montage and Gordion Knot were bangers but that's the only tracks i remember

>>724903182
>attack mission turns into dogfight mission anyway
Crazy idea, but how about in AC8, you can pick which role you want to play at the start of each mission, and your AI friends are competent enough to handle the other roles by themselves?

>>724903457
X happens after 7.

>>724903457
What the fuck

Why is it the length of a fucking B-29 Superfortress?

>>724903643
Your taxes hard at work, dear Leasath citizen! How else will we crush those pesky Aurelians without massive fighters and even more massive flying fortresses?

>>724891843 (OP)
They were right to cut out all the story in AC3.
It's so fucking terrible, and poorly written.
The game is better off without it.

>>724901729
For some reason, they really went all in on the soundtrack for that one.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R6hpReqjTrA

>>724903526
>he didn't jam to Eye of the Storm whenever he got a BINGO

Also Quartz is the best song in the whole series
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fzjPnoSNprE

>Going through Ace Combat in order
>Finish 3 a while back
>Played 4 and 5 more recently
>Slowly realising the games might not get quite as ambitious or out there with the science fiction elements

>>724902114
What I’m saying is the “remake” of 3 is actually the sequel. Instead of the sim it’s real life

>>724904243
7 and X are the closest you will ever get to sci-fi ever again

>>724904278
That wouldnt be very fun and would rob the stinger 3 had
The remake of 3 has to be a remake and the next game the aftermath in real life
3 HAS to be a sim

>>724902805
TRVKE

3's story is overrated and the mission design sucks.

>>724904405
i love that you can never tell what nets you the A rank on the first playthrough

1990s superweapons in Strangereal
>anti-asteroid 1200mm railgun array
>anti-ICBM laser tower that can bounce beams off low orbit mirrors
>huge bomber that is thousands of tonnes and half a kilometer wide

2040s superweapons in Strangereal
>blimp

>>724904708
it's a MGS2 thing where the superweapon isn't actually the real superweapon

it's sublimation

>>724904206
>give Quartz and Eye of the Storm another listen
Ok I stand corrected.

>>724903643
It's designed to carry two BIG FUCKING MISSILES. I'm pretty sure LSWM is the biggest player-usable weapon in the series, in both payload size and impact. It also has a microwave ball lightning generator (which would be a sick special weapon to have, kind of an anti-missile- you can't outmaneuver it, only outrun it, especially handy for Fenrir that's not particularly agile) and optical camo in the superweapon version. And three engines. And VTOL capabilities.
>>724903593
Just a bit after, both are set in strangereal 2020. They could give us Apalis at least, would've been fun to have an early game fictional plane again.

>>724891843 (OP)
That's underselling 5 and zero a bit.

>>724905119
I honestly forgot almost everything about 5 despite having played it. What was it about again?

>>724905119
5’s plot is fun, but it’s absolute overly sentimental crap if you try to take it seriously.

>>724891843 (OP)
Did anybody make a tier list with ALL the AC games yet?

>>724891843 (OP)
>Ace Combat 2 - wow cool planes
>Ace Combat 3 - Wow, ugly planes
_Ace Combat 4 - Wow, cool planes

>>724905351
Where's 2

>>724895071
early to mid cold war ace combat would be fucking sick with all the wacky as fuck early supersonic jet age aircraft

>>724891843 (OP)
3 is actually a logical progression of 2, which had AI-piloted aircraft in the form of the "Zone of Endless" (ZOE) aces. This was something in the base game, not something AHL invented.

>>724905183
>waaaaaah war le bad (i mean it is but shut the fuck up for one minute and focus on the mission)
>shut the FUCK up nagase
>shut the FUCK up chopper
>oh no le nuggets
>why the FUCK do i have to unlock the same plane several times
>belkan conspiracy
>oh shit chopper died
>shut the FUCK up archer
>why isn't there a FUCKING RETURN LINE in the desert
>the journey home
>arkbird
ACX deserves its spot in the Holy Trinity. The fat cunt in the first part of the game was funny at least.

>What if Ace Combat but WWII?
>What if everyone in Europe was Japanese?

>>724905351
Project Wingman:

>>724905703
>ACX deserves its spot in the Holy Trinity
ACX has garbage ground targeting and missiles that miss for no reason even if the first one connects. Also the helicopter escort mission was shit.

>>724905183
>belkans bad
>war bad (except when it's against belkans, then it's good)
>nukes bad
>superweapons bad (just ignore Oseans using space lasers to save their asses)
>black ops glownigga secret air squadrons good
>peace good
>LA LA LA

>>724905183
Belka is behind everything

>>724904405
It's ambitious, held back by the times and budget constraints. The missions are barebones and most can be completed in like 5 minutes, but the soundtrack, story, branching paths, and design sticks with you. Plus it's the only AC that lets you go into space (with the appropriate physics change).

>>724905872
>ACX has [attack aircraft actually matter]
I'll agree with you on the helicopter mission though. People complain about the gas attack mission but trying to protect the helicopters literally involves trial and error.

>>724905723
>Oh the novels were translated? Let's check it out
>completely incomprehensible gibberish, not even MTL would be this bad, what happened here?
>The Jap who started the publisher for the English version can barely speak English and had Indians proofread his work
What the fuck? Well anyway I continue my reps.

>>724905947
Belka being Germany and Israel combined into one is great

>>724905723
we need more arcadey prop plane games.

i'm still mad the project aces x magnificent kotobuki event was nothing more than a handshaking gig at a museum.

>>724905183
Blaze.
Blaze!
BLAZE!

(Yes) > < (No)

>>724906634
Always pick the negative option. Fuck the useless wingmen

>>724906634
>We can do this! Right, Blaze?

>>724891843 (OP)
Sometimes everything goes right and a complete autist gets to be in charge of a major product and somehow the higher ups dont notice he is going full ludo until its too late. Also see: The Line, Sudas early career.

>>724905723
That’s the game where the dog fight mode bullshit from assault horizon came from, innit?

>>724904405
Says the faggot posting an early 2000s picture, dumb retard

>>724891843 (OP)
ac4: mobius one is fucking cool
ac5: the military-industrial complex feeds and fuels opposing countries, and turns countries into enemies if need be, because to not do so would be to lose money and that is unthinkable
ac0: lolberts, lol

>>724905351
where is ACX
where is my man GRYPHUS ONE

>>724907085
The worldview demonstrated in AC5 is utterly deluded. The politicians are well intentioned idiots. The populace is just this mob of clapping seals meant to represent some sort of vague anti-war sentiment. The conflict is actually some ridiculous conspiracy instead of a realistic war.
It’s just soppy feel good garbage that doesn’t even keep up the facade of bullshit it pedals when there’s another war like 5 years later.

>>724907210
ACX
>*kangaroos in the background, koala on the boss*
>Let's set it in 2020
>It'll totally never bite us in the ass
ACX2
>GUITAR PLANES
>Sir please
>FLYING FORTRESSES DOING COBRAS
>That's the "bad ideas" folder, sir
>CANYON RUN IN A 747
ACAHL
>Where is the plot?
>Boss, it's a remake of a 90s ga-
>I asked where is it, not why is it not there!
>(Also call it Assault Horizon, it'll sell millions)

Strangereal is like Earth but the entire planet is 18th century Europeans

>>724907371
That's what no nukes and no big daddy America does to people

>>724903457
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=175VFWNRs_Y

>>724895859
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Project_Pluto
>but how is that related to asteroid defense?
No one said it has to be related to Ulysses defense, that's just a running theme due to Stonehenge, Excalibur, etc. The Gleipnir and Hreselvelerbvgar and such are just big fuck-off airships, the Hrimfaxi subs have fat fucking missiles, and so on, and they're all used as recurring force-of-nature antagonists akin to the installations like Fortress Intolerance.

>>724898514
Reclamation.

I lover her so much bros

>>724904708
to be fair: blimps are cool. i don't CARE if they're total dogshit in any era past the 1930s and make no sense in a game with BVR jet plane fights. give me more blimps, give me zeppelins that carry aircraft, give me another crimson skies

NEMO deserved better, poor clanka

>>724905183
It was a belkan false flag

>>724907364
>FLYING FORTRESSES DOING COBRAS
THAT WAS ACX
I WILL NOT STAND FOR THIS GLEIPNIR SLANDER

>>724891843 (OP)
AC3 will always be my favorite, if only because of X-49 Night Raven.
I don't care how impractical it may be, it looks awesome and that's good enough for me.

>>724908094
I like how the drone versions are almost incomprehensible from behind due to the PS1 graphics and color scheme so it looks like you're piloting a red and white baboon head.

>>724897360
I really should play this again. I played it when I was 9 years old and I didnt understand a word of English lok

>>724907085
You didn't get 5 at all.

>>724908270
ac5: JEWS

>>724908159
>Nightto Laven...

>>724908159
>red and white baboon head
I'm pretty much certain the XR-900 Geopelia was inspired by the mass produced evas from End of Evangelion.
Hell, even the way they show up out of nowhere to fuck you up at the end of the story is kinda similar.

>>724906072
>LEAVING ATMOSPHERE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fMhNaHkf4i4&t=23

>>724898514
Ace Combat 8 - Doing figure 8's in the sky cause it's funny

>>724891843 (OP)
I only like Ace Combat 3 for the MENUS......

>>724912156
I like AC3 because you participate in false flag operations and can side with a psycho retard

>Ace Combat thread
Post those gems
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dZBoiW460nU

Bros...
https://x.com/PROJECT_ACES/status/1985528424040185906

>>724914698
This is a nice picture, but where is the game? Not even a DLC?

>>724917231
Why the fuck would you want MORE DLC?

>>724914698
>6 years without a new title
Remember when they used to shit out an AC game every three years?

>>724910349
>only game where you go to space
>has a completely unique flight model
>you get 4 stationary targets and it's over in 30 seconds
what the fuck were they thinking? that's why i don't like AC3 that much

>>724894264
The Absolute Sex Triangle as bern in every AC dince AC3 (Or 2, I forgot)

>>724898514
Infinite circus of strife

>>724899657
AI isn't AI that's the best thing, its a shareholder and investor new scam like what happened with crypto early days, its just a LLM and predicts with a terrible success rate the next word, it doesn't think, has no own decisions, is just a bunch of text randomized based on whatever you type, the bubble will explode at some point, it wont disappear but the "everything needs AI now" forced bullshit will relax a lot

Everyone ignores ACX2 but its honestly really good

>>724899657
"AI" we have now isn't like a Star Wars robot or something, there's no actual intelligence or self-awareness behind it, it's all just fancy math burning through the excess processing power of modern CPUs.

>>724894007
that would be highly antisemitic

>>724907950
That was technically more of a belly flop. Gleipnir had neither capability nor intention of getting out of that position, it already got critically damaged, so it pulled up trying to either fire the cannon at the city or stall itself into it as a last resort. Crux figured out that it'll fire the cannon and had Gryphus destroy it, but missed that it'll crash itself into the city regardless, and lucked out into best possible ending.
><<The controls are not responding!>>
was not because of damage, but because at that point Gleipnir has already stalled and turned into a thousand ton projectile that stalled itself into the river.
Meanwhile, X2's fortresses actually do the proper cobra and continue flying.

>>724905947
AVE BELKA
NEVER FORGET THE SEVEN HOLY NUKES

>>724930110
tl;dr: you talk mad shit for someone in SWBM range

>>724899657
2:38
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xsc3Z53QTC0

9+1 cum historia

https://youtu.be/Q_OfniaAH9I?si=_7qHSpmyoZLqLCfL

I'm on mission 8 and any time I get in lock on range to an enemy they're basically flying parallel to me so they just instantly zip away. I do not understand how to dogfight at all, even when I use the minimap to see which way they're going they just turn on a dime. I can only get 3-4 kills before the time limit.

>>724898514
Ace Combat 8 where the eight is a mobius strip.
As you'd expect, we're going to get either his origin story or what happened after the war.

I'm hoping we go back in time, I don't want to go into the AC3 timeline just yet.

>>724906701
>He said NO to the dog
What the FUCK

>>724905351
>Project Wingman

>>724933008
Don't engage them flying parallel? Unless they're flying straight at you, in which case JOUST
If you're having trouble engaging with an enemy, break off and engage someone else who is an easier target
If there are no other targets, disengage, wait for them to chase you, then re-engage
Hold the targeting button to track an opponent, but don't overuse it because you'll just end up crashing
>>724933215
>what happened after the war
We already have Operation Katina and the AC7 VR missions
Mobius 1 kicked so much ass Erusea refused to touch North Point

>>724914698
They also released this 7 hours ago.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l11QCJXZ6-I

I'm starting to think that we're getting an Ace Combat 5 remake as the next game.

>>724933501
It feels like I'm spending most of every mission turning. Looping around. I figure that's why he's called Mobius cuz he's always going in circles. I think I'm doing it all correctly, like rolling and slowing down and tilting up i just feel like I have very little control.

>>724934007
Are you using real plane controls? Or the """novice""" controls? Those make everything harder.
Ace Combat isn't a difficult game and every game plays the same, since the PS1.

If you feel like you're in a furball just accelerate straight, turn around and reapproach.

>>724891843 (OP)
Don't care about housewife grade philosophy, love military sci-fi

>>724904405
>>724904615
the biggest problem is that there's no score counter (outside one or two missions).
other than meeting ranking requirements, there's zero point in pursuing non-targets.

>>724934007
You will spend a lot of missions doing that
Thing is, so will most of your enemies, so you have to learn to approach situations correctly and reapproach situations when they're stuck
If you and your enemy are flying in a big vertical wheel, try breaking off and coming at them horizontally
Also >>724934194, use the proper control scheme (Normal, not Easy)
The real lesson is that the AI in all AC games is very predictable so if you can figure out their patterns you can just blitz the whole series with little effort

>>724901138
>They absolutely should have waited for the PS2.
The game wasn't possible on the PS2, PS1 graphics were cheap and you could justify the development time for a level biome that you would use ONCE. The increased complexity of PS2 assets meant that all 3 PS2 games combined still had less level design depth than 3.

>>724898514
Ace Combat Infini-aw shit they did that one already

>>724934194
>>724934319
The Yaw buttons barely make a difference with how much turning I spend the whole game doing, but yes I am using them all the time when I'm turning (I do a lot of turning) (it's basically all you do).

>>724933008
Aaah yes, Comona

>to extend
>satellite launch

>cum onahole
>most fun mission in ac4
>like ac3 execution
https://youtu.be/WHwpwYR_7HI?si=h2UirgwMUPbbMy-E
>like the snatcher
https://youtu.be/ON0y6ZiNuGM?si=E3R18gHNQSIkJVOv

>>724934903
Yaw is a scam, it's just for tunnels, attackers and small adjustments, you're bleeding energy unnecessarily
We're talking about control schemes but it sounds like you're using Normal anyway so that's fine

>>724935182
>We're talking about control schemes but
You don't actually know what Easy Controls do, I see. It disables the Yaw buttons (L2 and R2)

>>724935489
>You don't actually know what Easy Controls do, I see.
In my defense I never used it
I only know what Novice does in 7 because I've seen people post webms here
Of the minor changes I'd like to see in 8 I hope they label Expert as Normal because people fall for it every time and it sucks

They should do an Ace Combat set after 3.

>>724935846
after 3 the Strangereal timeline becomes the United Galaxy Space Force timeline

https://ugsf-series.com/en/

>>724934903
Compared the size of your horizontal stabilizers to your wings. Obviously it's only for small corrections.

>>724936110
The fact that this shit exists will never stop being wild.

Yukikaze ripoff
yes I do smell my own farts

I would want Infinity 2 on Steam.

>>724914698
THERE'S AN ANGEL UP IN THE SKY

>>724936110
Technically, Ridge Racer is part of that timeline.

Played my first ace combat game (ace combat 7) recently for some reason and it was amazing. I loved the bombing missions of the navy and infrastructure. I thought the nemesis dogfights with epic music was awesome even if scripted.

I thought the drones were retarded and boring.

What do you guys recommend? Never played any sort of plane game before.

>>724892453
Considering how they handled 7's story, do you really think they're capable of that?

>>724922761
at least it's not 2011-2019 where it wasn't clear if strangereal was dead forever
(yeah yeah, there was AHL, but they were tying it in to AH...)

>>724936689
Really weirdly though. RR has stuff like real world locations, sponsors that would be either impossible or in really bad taste in Strangereal, no real connections to anything besides the Nagases, etc.
AC7 does have a reference to Ridge Racer, but it's just a billboard with a car from a game that never got released.

>>724894007
>How does killing mostly civilians fix this
Killing civilians is the answer to every problem.

>>724936881
Give the PS2 games a go, you'll probably love Zero (but it's a prequel to 5 so save it until then)
Fortunately drones in every other game fly like regular planes more or less (except for boss fight in 6) so don't worry about that
Alternatively if you don't want to emulate you could try Project Wingman

>>724898514
Ace Combat 8 Infinity

>>724933442
ftfy

>>724898514
Ace Combat 8 : Reflection
The 8 would have a line through it like it's made with a mirrored 3
You would play as two different pilots from different nations at war. showing you both sides of the conflict.
Final mission is against your other Ace in the last plane you used for them.

>>724893356
>WHAT HAVE BORDERS GIVEN US?
Nations. They have given us Nations

>>724899501
I wish. Japan lives in the same 2025 as the rest of us.

>>724937215
It's just a running gag that's gotten out of hand. It made sense back in the RRT4/AC2 era, since Strangereal wasn't properly a thing yet and a 'haha the Nagases are sisters because we made one model and used it 5 times" thing, but at this point it's just a sort of "haha trivia" thing. Especially since Ridge Racer has always been set in the real world (ostensibly), not just the recurring Ridge State and Type 4's locales but right up to RR7/PSP RR2, you still have the news ticker and company info talking about the USA, France, Japan, and so on.

Rule of thumb is RR supercedes everything else because it's always been a love letter to Namco's other franchises and obscure arcade games. What the hell is a Plid's, anyway?

>>724891843 (OP)
AC3 is really the gits game we never got

>>724899401
japan's economy got nuked* by the americans (again)

>7 becomes a huge hit for the series and is really well received
>dont do anything with the series afterwards, not even ports for the old games or something
Whats their plan here?

>>724941161
I think they're going konami mode

>>724894264
Erm, the term is Eurodorito?

>>724941161
Namco are the most incompetent japanese publisher around, ac8 being good will be a miracle

>>724897357
What the hell are you talking about retard, the PS4's HOTAS as practically made for AC7.

>>724941161
I assume Kono went into another deep depression after the "I hate real war" tweet, had everything scrapped, and started over yet again relatively recently when they made the nugget tour video. He's a fickle mistress, give him time.

>>724941161
Bamco already got their "let's do a mediocre live-service release of one of our more niche franchises with a loyal fanbase" out of the way relatively early, so they can't do that again
...can they?

>>724936881
Play 4, 5, Zero and PLAY 6 YOU NIGGERS. SHIT'S GOLD

Yager, yep, now that was a cool ass game.

>>724893720
Was it this one?

>>724936881
Add Ace Combat X to the PS2 games recommendation, it's every bit as good better than 5 desu.

>>724904151
>for some reason
I mean, you got the whole Bamco Sound Team on your back. Why wouldn't you go all in?

I unironically enjoyed Assault Horizon.
The music was banging and it had some planes that had never been in AC previously.
If they toned down the on rails stuff it could have been better.

I understand, though, that I am in the minority.
My favorite AC has to be AC6, btw.

>>724899657
>it helps third worlders produce low effort dopamine slop to farm engagement
It also helps first worlders do that, bigot

>>724904708
blimps are cool and only a faggot would say otherwise

>>724941775
I don't hate it but it felt lukewarm compared to the other games. Also the fact that I only realized YOU HAVE TO use DFM to destroy the missiles after retrying the last segment 4 times in a row soured me on that mechanic.
Co-op missions and fully customizable color palette were very cool, though. You can even change the smoke trail colors. I hope 8 brings them back

>>724891843 (OP)
The American version removes all the boring lore
Based USA making games fun again

>>724941920
are you bbw appreciator as well?

>>724941939
I also liked the bomber missions, even if they were on rails. It was something that we don't really get to see in AC, and I'd like to see bomber missions (but not on rails) make a comeback in the future.
Overall, I liked a lot of things about AH, but DFM soured the overall experience.
The real world story didn't bother me as much as it seemed to bother other people.
The music was good enough to make up for all of it in my eyes.

>>724895859
Pretty sure that every ace combat superweapon is just a concept from the atomic age. Or great minds just think alike.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lockheed_CL-1201

>>724942027
I guess the problem with AH's story was it's very by-the-numbers. Doesn't help that COD was also making a whole trilogy of Russian coup de etat. At least AC6 had cringekino with the whole angel motto, Golden King and the tank crew stuff.

>>724942048
holy shit

>>724891843 (OP)
Ace Combat 6 was the best title and the best combat. You don't like it because you never had an X360.

>>724941161
Ace Combat pachinko

>>724942715
It's fully playable* with Xenia now

*cutscenes and iM@S DLC skins not included

where's ac 8 ?
why is there no competition to speak off
we got project wingman and... that's it

>>724893356
It's funny, because in Ace Combat 3, national borders have been abolished. He got what he wanted. There are still wars though so this guy was full of shit.

>>724942013
not the word I'd use but I am sure someone would

>>724893356
There are natural borders like rivers, mountain ranges etc.

>>724892969
Die Belkan

>>724893356
brotha you're a fighter pilot, if there's anyone who gets to clearly see borders every day it's you

>>724941424
Do you think we'll get heroics or depression kino thanks to the IRL political climate this time? The holy trinity was basically birthed by GWOT after all

>>724901032
this. it's actually a lot more fun to play the mission simulator in the PAL

a remak or remaster of 2 and 3.
yay or nay?

>>724942715
I'll play it once it gets released on a decent platform

>>724944726
>remaster of 2
Assault Horizon Legacy
>and 3
Too anime for modern audiences

>>724946038
>Too anime for modern audiences
unc....

>>724946346
Modern anime is not anime, it's capeshit with funny big eyes. Kids don't watch real anime, the stuff from 2008 and before.

>>724946648
fair enough

>>724944031
Yuktobania bullies a neighbouring country, like Verusa, and you will play as The Ghost of Kiev... I mean The Ghost of whatever Verusa's capital is. It's going to be a war of attrition where you have to repeat the same mission half a dozen times (think B7R). The plot twist is that Belka was behind it all along, to Burden Osea's and Yuktobania's economies with unnecessary military spending.

PW2
or
AC8

>>724947746
AC8

>>724944031
Belka will do nothing wrong, like usual.

>>724947746
AC8 with proper iM@S skins again

>>724891843 (OP)
How well do the ps1 ace combat hold up?

>>724947746
Finish developing Conquest mode then we'll talk about PW2
>>724948225
The one in the OP is the third PS1 game, so...
2 is great and 1 is okay, but they're both as arcade as it gets so don't expect all the bells and whistles of later games

>>724948225
2 and 3 are great. In a weird way both 2 and 3 do well. 2 is balls to the wall classic action, great ost and the level design set the standard for the rest of the series. 3 is another level of good presentation.

>>724907035
You're retarded

>>724908261
the english version is a completely different game get the JP one with the translation

>>724948225
1 is considered a disappointment by the devs because it was originally supposed to be a port of the first arcade game. If you're interested, play Air Combat and Air Combat 22 on an arcade emulator instead.
2 (which is unrelated to 22) is their first true Ace Combat console game, and is probably the best overall for pure arcade style gameplay.
3 is their first story-focused game and has probably aged the worst, but is still worth a play.

>>724948012
That would require a new IM@S release. Nobody remembers the hags and nobody likes the cinderellas.

>>724891843 (OP)
Ace Combat 5 is a downgrade from 04. I don't give a SHIT about pressing < or > while I'm trying to fly a plane. These borderline quicktime events are terrible.

>>724898514
Ace Avi8ion

>>724949221
People seems to like the school girls, so far
doesn't mean I'd pay for their skins anyway

>>724949221
They would just use whatever the latest batch of gacha idols is. I think it's that one with the masochist sticc?

>>724907504
>Hreselvelerbvgar
Furesburg.

>>724943297
Buddy...
>"It may be true that the world has no need of borders, but would getting rid of them really change anything?
>The world won’t change for the better unless we trust people. Trust is vital in a peaceful world. But that will never happen."

>>724949381
Unironically skill issue. The only problem with 5 was the gimmick missions sometimes take trial and error for your first playthrough, and even then I'll take them before lol just do time attack missions 20 times.

>>724949381
How many of them even matter? Two? You don't even need to respond otherwise

>>724950441
People with zero literacy will turn him into a commie for saying that but for me he was my buddy

>>724920637
To be fair, I'd buy it day one and put a gun on each of my friends' head and force them to buy it too if it's a co-op missions DLC

>>724950912
>Just ignore it bro
I've heard this cope before

>>724950774
I've got it synced to my dualsense gyro so I just swing it left or right but it's still a needless distraction.

>>724903030
Based

>>724951730
I wouldn't ignore it nor recommend anyone else ignore it, unless they want to see the unique dialogue that comes from ignoring it
But you should because you're brain damaged

>>724903030
eh both 4 and 5 are nice for different reasons. 7 is shit because they restarted development with only 12 months to go, they obviously fucked up whatever the original plan was for the narrative.

>>724903030
04's story was melodramatic, it just had still image cutscenes instead of 3D animation because they wanted to save money.

>>724894264
When they make a good plane, probably?

>>724952230
04 is much more grounded compared to 5, which really leans on Hollywood action flick storytelling
Which is why I like both of them, just in different ways
And then Zero does an entirely new thing again with the documentary style and I like that too

>>724941568
We will never get "Russia invades USA" again due to slavic incompetence being revealed. Tragic

>>724952152
>they restarted development with only 12 months to go, they obviously fucked up whatever the original plan was for the narrative.
This is factually incorrect. The only thing that happened was needing to pull in outside engineering help to get the game engines working properly (said by Project Aces at the CEDEC 2019 presentation), and the narrative being tweaked to emphasize the drones because they thought the original conspiracy angle would be too much of a copy of 5 (proven with the recorded voice lines).

>>724903030
AC5 is basically made to be more "hollywood" on purpose, it was literally the angle they wanted if I recall.

>>724904243
>>724904321
They said in the arsenal bird video that AC will get more futuristic from here on at least.

AC3 is overrated

>>724955037
I think it's exactly where it should be. The gameplay's not the best, but- my GOD, that presentation.

>>724955037
>>724955613
AC3 is one of the few games that would justify a remake, but only if they could nail the presentation and art style of the original, just with better mission design.

>>724955704
I can't think of anything I would want less than an AC3 remake. You know every shitty remake so far has cut content, right?

>>724892453
It's extremely likely 7 was supposed to have three routes. But they fumbled it hard and had to merge them.

>>724891843 (OP)
3 sounds like it was written by idiots that huff their own farts. Give me 4 any day

>>724891843 (OP)
Freespace 2 is Ace Combat, if it involves most missions going off rails from the initial objectives

>>724891949
South belkans*
fixed

>>724905723
I watched the anime
it was kino

>>724891843 (OP)
>>Ace Combat 3 - is becoming one with the digital world the next stage of humanity? is an uploaded consciousness still "human? or merely something pretending to be alive" are we truly motivated by ideology, or is it just a justification for baser desires?
i don't remember any of this, in fact i don't remember the game having any story at all

>>724961753
Sounds like you played the zero effort western version, retard.

>>724943786
I live in the US you tard

>>724962741
I notice you did not mention where you were born. I'm on to you, Belkan.

AC3 has the best story and presentation of the entire franchise (Namco was amazing at the latter during the 5th generation, see RR Type 4), but its mission design is too simple/short.
AC5 remains the best game in the series.

AC6 is the best.

>>724891843 (OP)
DISION
DID
NOTHING
WRONG

what are they hiding in wellow?

>>724966636
Superbelka

>tfw the first time you saw the ac7 release date trailer
the music still gives me goosebumps

>>724966636
Snow

>>724962741
>Be born in Belka
>Fuck it up
>Move to Osea
>Try to fuck it up too

Belkans cannot comprehend an idyllic and peaceful lifestyle. It's in their blood to fuck everything up.