Thread 724961731

So now that the dust has settled, is it any good?

I'm waiting to play until the cleaning lady leaves in a couple of hours. I will Portugal but maybe I could play something in Tuscany.

It's shit

GOTY

requested a refund

I really hate the starting date. The game crashes frequently. The AI is garbage. Numbers autism worse than Vicky. Character based gameplay worse than CK. Its not like EUiv at all :c

so is it good?

The pre-release videos were disproportionately focused on these countries:
>France
>Bohemia
>Hungary
>Mali
>Korea

I'm guessing they have more unique content and flavor stuff?

So, what specs do You have and how does it run on ti?

>>724961894
>>724961908
Some anons are coming to terms with mana loss.

bought a second copy

How will you be playing as? I'm going with MYSTERY NIGGAS

>>724961731 (OP)
Paradox games aren't good until total conversion mods let you play in good settings. Historic settings are boring by default, same as space sci-fi.

>>724961929
CPU is what matters, and I'm on 10th gen intel so this could be slow.

>>724961929
Its the same engine as Victoria 3.
It runs the same as Victoria 3. Slow initial load, freeze at end of every month, even high speed isn't fast on my machine, GPUs and RAM still overpriced due to ChatGPT eating it all.

>>724961927
no, countries with the most flavour are:
england
france
castile
austria
muscovy
ottomans
yuan

Starting as the rightful High King of Irenland, Eamonn O'Plantagenet

>>724962030
I'm on an i7. Given how Windows 11 tells me its ancient and it can't run on it, I'm guessing I will have lategame issues?

i7 9700k and 2060
should I even bother?

Tried this as my first Paradox game in a long time. It's a bit overwhelming and I can't tell if it would be easier starting as a larger established presence or playing as a fuckoff nobody with barely any land

Is it worth pirating now or should I wait a year for mods/patches/DLC?

>only 120 reviews
Where did all the hype go? Does 2,000 posts in /vst/ thread mean nothing?
Surely the hypw was organic right? We couldn't have been fooled again

>>724962165
>only 120
the game released 20 minutes ago anon, that's already way too many reviews

>>724961731 (OP)
I don't know, I keep getting the BSoD and there is no borderless window mode.

>>724962131
play as a medium sized country like portugal, not too small but only one market at the start to worry about

>>724962135
pls come seed

>>724962135
if you still pay for it when faggot influencers have been blowing the game wide open for a month for free you're a cuck

>>724962086
i7 doesn't mean anything, what gen is it?
>>724962107
I'm in a 10700k and 2070s and vicky/ck3 both run acceptably, I would give it a shot.

3060 12gb status?

>>724962315
>i7 doesn't mean anything, what gen is it?
Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-4790K CPU @ 4.00GHz, 4001 Mhz, 4 Core(s), 8 Logical Processor(s)

>>724962286
Will no one rid me of this troublesome leech?

is this game just vicky 3 with eu4 skin, I saw it has that gay pop and resource mechanic

>>724962382
Erm, we call them peer-folx now, grandpa.

>>724962379
Anon.... it may be time for a new build....

>>724962379
>i7-4790K CPU
anon, I...

>>724961908
How can anyone answer that question yet? It takes like a week to learn these games.

>>724962431
>>724962464
i can't afford it, ai took my job and inflated pc prices

>>724962379
>4790K
I don't know how you're still living in 2014 but please take me back with you.

>>724962425
Its vicky 3 with ck3 characters and semi-eu skin

>>724962482
some reviews have 100+ hours, I assume there was a beta

>>724962505
i actually just checked, got that badboy at Mon, Oct 4, 2010, 7:19PM
half price on it, too

It's shit

>>724961908
>>724962482
Legend of Total War had over 250 hours in it when he uploaded his 8 hour Byz video, which means a good first impression, he needs another 1750 hours to know for sure.

>>724961894
>Its not like EUiv at all
good
12 years of manaslop is enough for a century

>>724962030
>>724962038
>>724962086
>>724962107
>>724962315
I have i7 12700kf and 4070s. Every paraslop game runs perfectly on my specs. But I am still unsure if I should even bother pirating this game.

>>724962528
thanks, saved me time pirating it

>>724962542
I will now buy your game.

>>724962601
>he has a strong opinion on a game he hasn't played, based on someone else's opinion who also hasn't played the game

>>724962379
Kek, didn't expect this

>>724962575
Enjoy pops killing your game!

>>724962568
Unironically just buy some used pc at this point.

>>724962379
Wow I used to have one of them about 10 years ago, impressive you can still play anything

>>724962573
I don't trust the ausfalian at all. He jumped ship from total war and needs a new sponsor teat to suckle for content. It's going to be a rude awakening when he realizes how much worse paradox is than CA.

>>724962576
Okay.

>>724962694
Victoria 3 runs fine.
Baldur's Gate 3 and Cyberpunk run fine on mid-high settings.

>>724962652
which part is a strong opinion bro

>Radeon 5700xt + Ryzen 7 3700x

its jover for me, isn’t it?

>>724962706
Nah, EU5 guides and campaign saves will be all the rage soon.

>vulkan instead of dx12 by default
interesting
im on 9950x3d+3080ti, does it make any difference?

Johan won, manafags and chinks filtered

I have +4000 hours in EU4 and yet I have no idea how to play this.

>>724962829
I saw some youtuber say vulkan was better in most cases

hi i'm here to have an opinion about a game that i haven't played in a genre i got filtered in
i think the game is good but needs work so i look forward to pirating it three months from now and hating it

>>724962875
play it like vicky 3

>>724962813
Absolutely not. These games are nothing like total war and nowhere near as popular. He's going to drop it in a month like every other streamer that got paid to promote it.

Post your Germanies and purple phoenixes I guess.

>>724962942
fuck that gay shit, post bulgarias on 3 seas

Pour one out for our homie EU4. It was a great ride!

>>724962842
Damn that's a big day one for Paradox. I expect EU5 to have legs like HoI4, so you'll see numbers like this again in 5 years.

>>724962909
So spend a whole session fiddling with clothes and wheat prices and manually micro adjusting every production method in each and every single territory you have? No thanks.

>>724962842
>67% and dropping
Johan...

>>724962928
???? Total war has been irrelevant for a decade

>>724962942
soon...

>>724962875
Same, I'm just gonna play Imperator instead, I don't wanna waste my time on the shitty war system from Vic3

>>724962842
250k by Saturday

are there missions and mission trees like in eu4?

>>724962928
He already likes paradox games in his free time. Anon I think you don't appreciate how this game appeals to a lot of people who think vicky3 was a broken stupid abortion of a pop sim.

>mfw 16gb ram
i'll see you in hell, lads

>>724963043
S
EU4 has been going downhill since 2018

>>724963174
no mission trees
instead, "situations", an ongoing event you can trigger that pushes you into the historical path, but you can also ignore
like positive disasters

>>724962706
>how much worse paradox is than CA
He removed my comment pointing this out so it's safe to assume the teat is already being sucked.

>choose (((bankers))) for my first test run
>improve relations with foreign countries
>build banks in their lands and leech their tax
>repeat
Is this all there is to it?

>>724963204
Have you tried not being poor?

>>724963204
dont check the price of ram

You can rename Byzantium as "The eastern Roman Empire" in the options menu

>no linux build despite all other modern paradox games having them
piracy it is then

>>724963174
not really. You get mission if you play tutorial.

>>724962909
>>724963051
No you can click automate trade and then actually play the game. And the game is more than just perpetually expanding factories and RGOs for tools to build more construction to build more tools and RGOs.

It's unironically 10x better than EU4 was at launch outside some AI and stability jank, its a shame we have to wait another 4 years for it to be polished up and have as much content.

>>724963287
>not kingdom of the greeks

>>724963224
Gotta save the missions for a dlc

>>724963264
my only hope is the fucking Ai bubble finally burst so that I can afford a new pc
>muh the economy
in not american, not my problem.

>>724963335
Damn you figured all that out in 30 minutes?

>>724963362
I'm going to buy a new computer on black friday. Since I'll be using it daily for the next 8 years, the price isn't so bad.

>>724963323
Thank god l. Vic 3 was unbearable.

>>724963287
Anyone who doesn't choose Rhomania is a pleb

Just started getting on it. Looks immediately overwhelming, I'm going to have fun.
Sucks for you guys that watched streamers defile the game in your own stead for a whole week while my pure virgin eyes are in awe for the experience ahead.

>>724963362
It's not a bubble anon, speculation may be rampant but money is being spent on real products (ram and vidya cards) and real estate and companies are turning profits. It's just the new normal sadly.

>>724963362
>the fucking Ai bubble finally burst
uhhh
yeah, any second now

18% download, will test on 8GB RAM 2GB Nvidia Windows 8.1. I'll keep you posted (potato net so may take a while), if I don't it probably means my PC melted.

>>724963396
Yes.

>>724962573
Hadnt he already been black listed by CA because he criticises them a lot

>>724963492
Just like crypto, right?

>>724963289
it takes one commit in the kernel made by some dilating furry for a game to be permanently broken, linux was a mistake

>it's crashing on the loading screen when I press select a country
joever

>first game
>nobles are already rebelling
tried to change some privileges to turn into centralization but it backfired

>>724963492
>money is being spent on real products (ram and vidya cards)
real products that start to devalue 0.01 seconds after you turn them on, and are useless after 4 years of heavy work

>>724963452
>Muscovy
ayy Timmy is finna gonna get flabbergasted

>>724963323
won't that dumpster you if you play a non major country

>>724963520
>Windows 8.1

>>724961731 (OP)
Gonna wait for the byzaboo DLC set to launch in the beginning of next year.

>>724963435
I was really worried the market would have the same problem in eu5 but it's more abstracted, the automation works (for trade anyway), and min/max on goods produced is fine because the abstract "control" is more important to your bottom line anyway. Big and small countries should be fun this way, and it makes sense to have a highly devved heartland even in an expansive empire.

>>724963520
>8GB RAM 2GB Nvidia Windows 8.1
anon...

£49.99 for Paradoxslop. I wont do it. I wont...

>>724963610
Nobles love more centralization

>>724963598
The fact that nvidia has added several trillion in market cap with ai, but not crypto, should demonstrate the difference for you.

>tfw sold my gpu two weeks ago
I wish paradox games still ran ok on integrated graphics considering how shit they look

>>724963790
>£49.99
Lucky fucking bastard

>>724963650
Its Q2 2026

>>724961731 (OP)
I asked this question multiple times but received no answer here or on other boards, which makes me really believe the narrative of being surrounded by bots and shills
So I ask again: WHAT IS THE DIFFERENCE HERE AND FROM CURRENT EU4 WITH ALL DLC? What features have been left behind pending new DLC, preserved, or improved?

>>724963798
do they? decentralization means less crown power which means more power to nobles

>>724963627
No, trade is finicky to begin with and the ai is alright at buying low and selling high. You can do it manually but there doesn't seem to be a good reason. And again, control matters more for the price of goods in various provinces anyway.

I'm too tired from work, I can't learn a whole new game, I have to rest for tomorrow, I can't-

>>724963835
Surely a toastermod will appear fairly quickly

>>724963452
Th UI looks horrendous, it is vicky III tier of bad or is it more appealing?

>>724963909
Less mana more commitment to builds.

>>724961731 (OP)
I’m not sure I want to play it without a couple years of dlc and mod support. But we will see.

>GPU fans revving when zoomed in
That'll get fixed right?

>>724963909
Retard, the only thing they share are some icons and the setting.

>>724963974
just click the automate button and watch the game learn itself for you friend :)

>>724963974
You better be in your 50s and work hard labor

>>724963974
lmao same bro. I had a headache but still went for it. It's better now but I only have like one and a half hour left...

>>724964004
Switch to flatmap.

>>724963909
Its a COMPLETELY different game. There are too many changes to bother typing the essay.

>>724961731 (OP)
i'm fucking lost

>>724963909
>eu5
popslop
>eu4
manaslop

>>724963974
Sometimes I just it on my pc and look at the scream for hours after work, in on my 30s btw

>>724963909
it's vicky 3 with ck3's combat

>>724963835
Will there be mods to remove the shitty ck3 3d models from the ui?

>>724964080
ROFL, look at dem POPs man
dem fuckin' POPs...

I tried playing Holland but France attacked me both times :(

>>724964080
Seriously, watch the 40 minute video that says what all the buttons do and then like feedback or redhawk to see how to do stuff.

>i7-8750H
>GTX 1050ti
>16GB DDR4
In ye I trust, lossless scaling!

>>724963452
I'm too old bros, this font size will give me a headache

>>724964119
>ck3's combat

should be more like ck 2 combat with the importance on flanks and all of that?

>>724964080
I'm a UI schizo this is dogshit, what did they take away the SOUL, CK3 wasn't that bad, but after that did the swedes had a collective aneurysm?

>>724963984
Vic3 looks like it's designed for an iPad
I honestly like the UI, looks like it's made specifically for PC, none of that minimalism console-era bullshit and all the details seem frontloaded.

Jesus fucking Christ our resurrected saviour and all the old gods too, this game is A LOT more detailed than any other. I'm just going to spend tonight looking through menus and the map. Probably wont unpause until the weekend or so.
So many things to decide and think about.. Like what language my court should use, the language of the common plebs, or the language of some sophisticated foreign culture? Should I let my cabinet members marry the king's widowed mum? Or send them to become monks? And that's just a teeny tiny part of the government menus.
Feels like they merged EU+CK+Vicky into a monster game.

>>724964136
kekd

>>724964095
waiting for the daring synthesis of manapop or slopslop before buying any of these games

>>724964153
Congratulations on getting the french ai to expand to places other than catalonia.

>>724963909
This guy wants someone to list every single change and difference just so he can go "SO THERE'S NO REASON TO BUY IT THEN?" and start some lame ass back and forth

Come on I have to go to the gym...

>>724964252
>manapop
play anbennar in eu4 :^)

>>724962038
>GPUs and RAM still overpriced due to ChatGPT eating it all.
what ?

>>724963909
its a different game entirely

>>724964252
>slopslop
THEY GOT TWO NOW?!

>>724964182
LS won't make the in-game time go any faster

>>724963452
>muscovy
it was never called that
its like saying kingdom of parisiy

>6 seconds to pass one month
Is this good? I don't remember how fast it was in EUIV.

Safe starting nation to learn should be some safe shitter in ireland right?

>>724963909
>no mana/monarch points
>population system instead of development
>trade is dynamic and not reliant on preset nodes
>levies instead of just standing army
>diplomatic relations is a more flexible number, an alliance in EU4 cost the same whether it was Ulm or France
This game is a frankenstein of Imperator Rome, CK, Victoria 2 and the rest of the EU games. It's fundamentally different in design.

>>724961731 (OP)
Are their games still unoptimized to the point where they use 100% of your GPU when you zoom out the map or have they finally hired some competent software engineers?

>>724964386
france, set everything to auto

How well would it run with 16GB ram? No way this game actually eats much more ram than this, right?

>>724964403
Nah, have to use flat map to avoid cooking.

>>724964386
Enjoy your brief time outside the Pale. I would play an italian minor if I was you.

>>724964417
I refuse to play muslim countries

>>724963452
I hope you pirated it cuz you're still a cuck otherwise

>map changes based on zoom
I really fucking hate it

>>724964448
just tried and it didn't go well

>>724964474
makes me wonder if the pop system in this has the same diversity is our strength shit as eu4

>>724964386
the ai refuses to expand pick literally anything

>>724964403
They hired me. I code in Node.js. The game is just an Electron window with React elements.

>>724964386
Hungary seems to be the easiest but a bit boring

>>724964529
Doesn't Hungary also start massively centralized and nobles gutted?

>>724964448
I'm on 32GB, hope you're not on Win10/11

>>724964483
>bharat_nation still trying to 1up
Saar pls

>>724964267
No, shill, I just don't want to be burned like CK2 to 3. CK3 was a lot different from 2 at launch, but took several years to get just basic governments from 2 over (like fucking republics still nowhere to be found)
So what is it? No flavor in China perhaps? HRE waiting for a season pass to have their more refined version? Non-christian or muslim nations getting shafted?
>>724964390
ty for the answer anon. I admit I'm still on the fence right now because I see theyre putting Byzantium flavor behind godamned DLC which implies i cant reform Rome properly until much later, like wtf this is the sort of thing I was talking about

>the only PC exclusive I give a fuck about, I play mostly on my PS5
>my PC can't run it

Fuck video games. Video games ruined my life.

So how's your first impression? Is it any good?

>>724964614
specs

>>724964641
maybe you should have bought a gaming pc instead of console with 0 exclusives

>>724961731 (OP)
I automated everything and am just controlling armies as Castile.

Just print more money lol

>>724961731 (OP)
lack of mission trees makes it really fucking boring and gives you no longterm goals outside of do this because i want to
it makes playing colonization countries like portugal and spain even more boring early than they were in EU4 combined with the earlier start date makes early game ibera even more a fucking snoozefest than it already was
the UI is hot fucking garbage and feels like it was designed for a phone instead of a computer
keybinds have randomly been changed like now all mapmodes are a CTRL+NUMBER instead of the A-Z keys like they were in EU4
most if not all of the mapmodes outside of trade, diplomacy and forts are fucking useless because they consist of info you'll never need to see at a global scale
also they decided to put a giant button at the bottom of the screen telling you what mapmode you're in for every mapmode except the default terrain one which is really fucking annoying and adds to the UI bloat
theres an overwhelming amount of information in the tooltips that either isn't nested or is Capitalized Like This to imply that it means something but there's nothing that explains what it is

>>724964689
>brave
lol

how are wars/expansion handled? Is it as easy as previously to just make up a casus, start a war, take a shitload of provinces in the treaty and quickly convert them?

>>724964519
No, diversity is bad for your country because rebels are serious business now.

>>724964386
Castile is the strongest nation.
Bohemia is also easy start if you reject the Hussites.
This is not CK3 you will get eaten by England as an Ireland minor.

>>724964783
I miss the mission trees, working through them made it feel less of a generic map painting session

>>724963974
I was feeling like this as well and it turned out I had cancer

>>724964689
Almost 10GB. Not that much. Does it get way higher if you unpause or zoom in?

>>724964843
we have no penalty nocb wars and no range limit on taking provinces

so tell me: is it any good?

>>724964714
I didn't buy it for exclusives. I bought it because my gaming PC died many years ago and this PS5 cost me 400 Euros new and it would have every game (except EU5) that I'd be interested in playing for years to come.

>>724964783
see now this is the sort of comparison thats important to make about the sequel

>>724964992
E33 niggers may as well take a hike, this is the GOAT.

>>724964992
no definite answer yet
its a mess

>>724964843
Newly conquered provinces have 0 control so they don't add anything to your nation.
To increase control you first need to core them with a cabinet member one province at a time.
You can core only provinces with majority pop that is accepted.
So you can blob but it takes way more time to intergrade new lands.
Unintegrated lands will revolt in time.

>>724964982
well, that explains the border gore

mission trees were railroad cancer, you got punished for not playing a country a specific way

>>724964629
> CK3 was a lot different from 2 at launch, but took several years to get just basic governments from 2 over
CK2 and CK3 are very similar games. The main difference is the breadth of content, really.
EU4 an EU5 are much more different. Think of something like imperator:rome, if you’ve played it. But without mana.

>>724964843
No, first of all casus bellis take effort and require parliament or spy networks, manpower is completely different (more like ck2) so sieges are VERY risky, you don't even want low control land outside your culture, unless you already have cores integrating takes time, and then convert religion/culture are separate ends of a slider so you'll be good at one and not the other unless they're balanced, and badboy climbs higher and faster with coalitions being even more of a problem than in 4.

>>724965034
funny you mention that game since pdx is going about their release the same way

>>724964992
Mana faggots are on suicide watch. Grand Strategistchads are at their primes. The game is being negativity viewed because the average jeet can't comprehend more than "press admin mana points so numbers go bigger" and then they say the game is shit.

Anyone else dropping massive frames after an hour of play? Some kind of memory leak going on. Restarting the game seems to fix it. Also, trading seems bugged

its ogre

>>724965218
vram bros...

>>724964992
no theyre trying to take avtismkino vicky2 and incorporate it into their flagship eu but its watered down so the autists think its pointless and the normoids think its overcomplicated

>>724965218
who the fuck has a 4gb vram card in 2025

how do I genocide everyone on the land I conquer? Why would I care about some random shit foreigner peasants if I could just move my own peasants there

>>724964992
the biggest two problem seen the UI and Ai

vijayanagar should be a great power

>>724965301
me >>724962379

Liqtoria2bros.... finally something worth our time again...

>>724965301
2GB vram reporting in. Won't stop me from trying

>>724965301
browns, poorfags, both

>>724965301
browns, pablos, jeets....

>>724965290
All the vic2 autists seem to like it tho

>>724961731 (OP)
Waiting for a torrent, I'm poor

>>724965306
You can reduce their food supply maybe? idk if RGOs can be shrank, but there's a minister interaction that encourages people to leave.

>>724964614
cuck

>>724965301
>not keeping old cards inside for extra display connectors
lmao

>>724965427
It's out already in the usual places

>>724964182
How is adding frames going to fix the day tick issues (because instead of fixing month tick issues they made day ticks into an issue)

>We're gonna take a look at economy, starting with the basics: the ...
Man the german translation has so many words just missing in tool tips. Is it the same for other languages?

It looks good but how much DLC is already being teased puts me off. I know it's PDX but still... put as much shit in vanilla as you can.

>>724965427
Stop waiting m8 >>724964274

why are you niggas not playing in english

I haven't played a Paradox game in years. Is it still easy to install pirated DLC to the legit base game?

>>724965492
It's the same in other languages. All except English.

>>724965558
why would you play in english instead your first language?

>>724965429
>minister interaction that encourages people to leave.
why can't I just press a button to kill them for instant culture switch, it's like 14th century

>Europa.Universalis.V-TENOKE.rar
Every single day I thank Gabe his platform has laughable DRM.

>>724965540
how do i install? the fucking website only has the picture with instructions. I dont normally pirate so Im without a clue.

>>724965607
because I'm proficient enough to play it the intended way?

>>724965094
>nooo I can't play my tengri venice into mughals into kourland into pirate nation cherokee with english parliament and chinese mandate!! game badddd!!! :((((((((((

>>724965558
If I'm gonna LARP I might as well use the correct language

>>724965678
in Swedish?

>>724965540
>>724965459
Oh fugg it was not out in MY usual place

>>724961731 (OP)
I am enjoying the idea of control and the economic management. Yes, it is overwhelming, but managing control and roads looks good in theory.

>>724965658
>has instructions
>can't into game
Anon, how are you going to play the game?

>>724965558
Grand strategy autists are usually thirdies or europoors

>>724965608
They're spread out man, it's not like they have boxcar tech until the very endgame.

>>724965714
ja

Is it good enough to make me stop playing pic related?

>>724965658
That is just an .nfo with the inforation of the scene release.
Go check reddit to see where you can get it. Yes, reddit has that information.

>>724965768
Zoomers literally don't know what 7zip is

I'm ready.

>>724965813
Just wait for its release

tranbennar

Thank you counter strike whales for buying the game for me.

>>724965870
>16GB ram
Anon, I...

>>724965813
Over 5k hours in eu4 and I've never touched fantasy shit. No sir, voltaire's nightmare and terra universalis were good enough for me.

>>724965926
Anbennar EU5? Anon I'll be waiting like ten years.

Dropping down in SVEA RIKE i vill BLOOOOOOOOOB

>>724965612
>bragging about being brown
couldn't be me

>>724966025
A lot of major mods got insider access, though I think Anbennar's was limited due to some reason or another probably regarding race mechanics. Don't remember which dev diary discussed this

>>724966052
I have a $2000 PC but I don't buy Paraslop.

>>724965658
Fucking tech illiterate retard

>>724965870
windows 10 is eol

>>724965306
Peasants are meant for exploitation not expulsion, but you can if you want to.
Kings back then actually condemned killing natives, some even imported African slaves if enough natives died from diseases.

>>724965658
oh my zoom zoom

>>724965658
Buy it, Swedish economy is at a standstill we’re starving here! Please put food on my plate

>>724966178
BUT YOUR CHEEVOS?

>>724965870
>speccy in current year

>>724965306
Stop thinking like a poor. Those people are your means of production.

>>724966215
That's what copilot wants you to believe, sure.

First reply whose last two digits add up to 9 chooses my next idea group. No one got it in the last thread.

>>724966474
Fucking awful ideas, go get admin or innovative.

>>724966474
it's me again, naval (sneed)

>>724966474
Naval but you can't build anymore ships

>>724966474
I want Colonial Ideas

>>724966474
defensive ideas

The download is over gentlemen
Time to lagoon jew

>>724966324
No. Ask the doctors, engineers and rocket scientists, that you imported, to work harder.

>>724962928
>TW
>popular
>current year
Lmao, get with the times gramps

Has anybody messed around with the Mesoamericans yet?

>>724966809
FALLO ANCORA, DADDY DANDOLO

Is it normal to have zero manpower because you can raise levies, or am I supposed to do something about it?

>>724966984
it's probably really underbaked so they can sell dlcs i imagine

the UI is so fucking putrid

>>724967105
Yes, research armories after professional armies unlocks.

>>724967105
i think its like imperator where you start with levees and get professional soldiers later

>>724966984
I considered it, there's like 50 different countries there at the start. Looks like it would be easy to blob up.

>>724967156
manababs seething
popchads eatin'

African peasant bros are we eating good?

>vicky autism in eu
>ck sims in eu
disgusting

>>724966325
The cheevos come with the game.

>no missions
what the fuck
why?

The new production and needs economy bullshit is one extra layer of autism I'm really not a fan of, especially with a big country. Feels even more tedious than in Vicky. Is there some fast way to automate this shit?

what do I do as castille? France is bullying my neighbors but I'm busy doing shit in the new world

maybe we should unite >>>/vst/2200977

>you can just take a province from your vassal through diplomacy
lmao based

>>724967363
literally automate the tab retard

>>724966809
Fallo ancora, daddy dandolo

>>724961731 (OP)
woke tranny dei slop

>>724967363
Yes there are little cog wheels you can click in every tab.

>>724967221
>t.

>>724966226
>Kings back then actually condemned killing natives
ye like 3 dudes in europe, everyone else did it

>>724967485
*clicks increase stability*
*takes 120 paper mana*
Feel better?

my torrent is already at 76%!

>>724961731 (OP)
I have 16GB of RAM, should I even try?

>>724967572
I'm not seeding!

bye missionfags
bye manafags
we take it from here

FUCK THE BLACK DEATH
STOP RUINING MY COUNTRY

>>724967779
>Linux
go for it

>Winblows
You might need to same day some memory from Amazon.

>>724967779
Ryzen 5600 rx6600 16gb and it takes 65~70 secs to pass one year at max speed, very playable

>>724967827
I turned that shit off

>>724967789
me neither, first come first serve

it's sloppa full of woke black people and ugly women

I was too lazy to upgrade my PC (i7-7700K), now I'm regretting it.

>>724967795
*raises bureaucrats to 100% efficient*
*raises clergy to 2%*
*researchers prestige*
yup, it's great power time

im not reading all this text

>>724967357
the new mechanic is "situations"
if you are a turic beylik in anatolia, you have the "rise of the turks" situation which is bsaically a mission tree you share for a duration

how do you get strong in pop games, is it just pop number going up and u have to meet their needs

>>724967996
>about to buy apartment
>covid-19 happens and delays it
>prices go up 2x

>about to upgrade pc
>AI happens
>gpu and ram prices 3x

ehehhehehehehehehehhe fml

>>724967357
It's extremely easy to sell as DLC specific to countries. They figured that out with HoI4 and implemented it in EU4 later

>Boot up the game for the first time
>takes 10 minutes to load
>click new game
>it crashes mid loading screen

I hope it's because I have some weird pirated version, because if this is the actual experience it's embarrassing-

>>724968108
manpower and taxbase is the same number
so don't waste people, and try to conquer and integrate more people

>>724968149
>about to buy apartment
fucking richfag

>>724968216
with a loan, of course

It's over. I bought it.

>>724968149
kek I had the exact same situation except my gpu broke during covid as well and I had to buy a 3060 at a 70% hike

I'm really scared they will reintroduce mission trees and mana to appease eu4 and hoi4 babies

FUCK
HELP

I'm really hoping they introduce mission trees and mana

money is mana

>>724968149
same exact shit here, that's why I'm stuck with the 7700k. it plays OK with the GTX 1070 at 1080p and every GPU since 2017 has felt like unacceptable garbage compared to Pascal

Are the recommended starts the tutorials?

>>724968468
they'll grow back

Just refunded. I'm too brainlet for this shit. Going to buy the new Anno: Rome instead.

>>724968468
just a lil' coof

>>724968468
Everyone around you got it just as bad; now is the time to strike.

is there even any reason to play wide, seems like it's tallbiased

how rough will england be for a first playthrough? any way i can dodge the 100 years war to make it easier?

>>724968647
So a good game? Thanks Johan!

>>724968647
Luckily, nobody played Imperator.

>>724968704
>any way i can dodge the 100 years war to make it easier?
press auto

uh automationbros why do I have to expand RGOs myself?

>>724968004
>2%
>not 4
Enjoy your shit literacy and research points IDIOT

>>724968468
>Capital is depopulating rapidly!
>huh, wonder what that means
>monthly population tick: -500k

>>724968673
Beautiful border

>>724968704
AI is braindead just take all of France

>>724966984
Nah will bother only after a DLC focusing on that area.
Same as with most parts of the world except Europe.

>>724968704
Just focus on getting Britain and Ireland. Doubt france will naval invade

>>724968725
bought, played, modded (to remove families asking for jobs), and rightfully forgotten

>>724968591
better buy anno1800. rome doesnt look too good

>stuck at 100% on the new game loading screen
Anyone else?

>>724968768
bro you need to auto your pop management, your missing employees

>>724968468
Have you considered importing millions of Indians?

does poortugal have any special content? loved playing those dirty moors in EU3

>>724968826
They did though

>>724968468
>>724968804
Oh no, quick. Pick one of your enemies and allow millions of their people to immigrate so you can replenish your numbers.

So is this easier than EU4?

>>724968872
but I clicked everything

Irish bros how do I deal with the angloids? If I wait for the hundred years war will they bother me?

>>724968704
>>724968826
France DOES naval invade now, but the trick is to pick off their vassel armies and then flee back to england and repeat. Sieging is asking for it.

>>724968975
you manually picked the wrong country

>>724968975
>Just auto everything bro
What's the point in playing?

>>724961731 (OP)
>still haven't got rid of the portrait in the top left
did a single person on earth think to themselves while playing eu4 "this game is great, but what would really push it to perfection is a shitty 3d model in a comically small box staring gormlessly at me and slowly moving it's head side to side"
also what's with the mapgame obsession over the past few years of putting the government type in a country's name? ("Kingdom of England" instead of just "England") It used to just be in retarded hoi4 maps but now it has infected paradox too? Maybe it would be fine it was just displayed under the flag in the top left, but including it for every country on the map just looks cluttered

Your GOTT, sir.

>shithole nation: chosen
>tutorial: disabled
its gaming time

>>724968776
Research caps at 2, and literacy efficiency tech makes up the difference.

>>724969078
so you can focus on whatever you choose. Seems like a good way to approach the game to me.

>>724968273
I appreciate people like you. I've given them a little bit of money but not nearly as much as I should considering how many hours I have in their games. As much as I shit on them for their dlc and lackluster releases I really enjoy their games and want the company to keep going.

will they abandon it like they abandoned imperator?

>>724965301
Why tf would a map painting game need 6 gb?

I've never played EU, I have EU4, can I play a non european country and have fun or does it suck, I only see people posting europe.

>>724969170
Doubtful since this is their flagship. Also they already sold content for all of next year with the deluxe edition.

>>724963362
Retard. This site was so much better before you ESL children infested it.

>mixed alredy

its jover

>>724969325
uhhhh 3d objects when you scroll in on the map

>>724963362
too big to fail, will get saved by taxpayers money if it fails

UI is dull and much of the font is too small to read

I'm a newfag with Paradox since I've only played Stellaris. Is EU5 similar in a sense you can just build nation however you want and "roleplay" your way through the game?
I've always heard
>if you want to war, play EU4
>if you want to diplomacy, play Victoria 3
>if you want to roleplay, play CK
Is this still the same case for EU5 or is it wider in scope in a sense you're basically playing NationStates but videogame?

>>724969380
yes you can play any country. EU4 had many years of updates and DLC, so even shithole countries have some unique mechanics and missions now.
EU5 just released, so the only polished countries are the biggest, most important ones, aka. Europe and a handful of others.

>>724969534
You can adjust the font

>>724963892
god I hate that us polacks are getting cucked by steam on prices, always almost the most expensive in the world, what are they smoking

>>724968468
Dump eet

>>724961894
>Its not like EUiv at all
That sounds like a positive to me

>>724968719
>Imperator: Rome
>Johan
Does he know?

>>724969543
EU is more directly about managing the nation as a whole than the other paradox games.

>>724962379
KEK these are the retards posting negative reviews about how games are unoptimized trash and can't run on their epic i7 machines.

>Mixed reviews
If you could not see this coming you are retarded.

>>724969543
Nah EU5 is a mixed of all of them
And yes you can build your nation however you want

seems this 'EU' game is not made for people who liked EUiv, its targetting at the victoria 2 and crusader kings audiences.

>>724969798
that's every fucking game on steam in the first day of release you fucking retard, 0.2 hours negative review because chinese translation is bad or the game won't run on 15 year old gaming laptop

and no, I won't assuming you're trolling me, anyone trolling like this is already objectively retarded

>>724969863
exactly
this for is for the simulation chads

>>724962842
>67%
oof

>>724969863
So there's a chance it'll actually be good?

>>724969863
Holy based Johan

>>724969994
I don't remember silksong being mixed

Fucking hell i've never felt so overwhelmed. I understand the market mechanics even less than i understood them in Victoria.

>>724969994
this
I don't know why does steam allow posting a review below a certain playtime, it's all flooded with off-topic garbage nowadays

>>724969863
you mean there are people who actually liked the mana system?

>>724970250
>>724969994
smells like curry in here

>>724970179
Silksong was almost reduced to 'mostly positive' due to the 15k chinese reviews bitching about translation errors within hours of launch. Granted without them it was overwhelmingly positive on launch and still is.

>>724969543
EU5 is a mix of all of them. If you want character-based roleplay I would play CK though.

>>724961731 (OP)
>Buying a paradox title at launch
kek you motherfuckers never learn.

>>724970458
It's absolutely reasonable to critisize bad translations, which more people would do it.

According to this guy, the game is monotonous and simplistic, with the difficulty being nothing more than tedious work.
This is the kind of review that makes me wary. I like the opposite: games that seem simple but have great depth.

>>724970495
I'm not really interested in character-based roleplay but is EU5 just nation roleplay essentially?

theres too many mechanics

>>724970584
>swimmy review
lol lmao

>>724965658
i fucking hate zoomers with a bloody passion

>>724970614
yes but the AI is retarded right now so there isn't much roleplaying since you'll just stomp them.

>portugal start
>pump all money into colonization
>start my first colony
>Black Death murders half my population
>can't afford to keep the colony going
yeah... time for a restart

>>724970584
hes not wrong, the AI is garbage

>>724970584
Nah he is a fucking retarded
‘Just build RGO’ bro is a straight up lie

>>724965658
Retards like you are the reason why I'm ashamed to be a zoomer

Guys, don't worry about the negative reviews. A brief skim shows they're from thirdies who can't run the game and MPfag ecelebs.

I have no tar :(

>>724967156
who is that little nigga in the corner supposed to be?

>war
>armies just pass each other and siege capitals
>similar armies, similar capitals
>im stuck at -45%, they are +35%
ok

Yeah I think we need to ignore all the negative reviews the game is certified kino

>>724969994
Do Paradrones really?

A year takes a minute for me. How many does it take for you?

i actually cant believe they removed missions
literally the only thing that made tags unique and interesting and replayable by picking historical/ahistorical
maybe people will mod missions in but i cant see this game lasting more than a week or two without them
every country plays the same to the point where its 1550 and the PAPAL STATES has a colony in the gulf of mexico???????????????????

>>724971332
Kill yourself missiontranny

>>724971050
no I'm not; I'm sure the game sucks and will take 2-3 years of dlc and updates to make it even mildly engaging

>>724963264
>The four-door RAM 1500 has a starting price of $39,420 MSRP
damn...

>>724961731 (OP)
There's a lot of numbers to learn, I haven't unpaused yet, had to take a break. With that said I have no idea if it's any good, gonna take a while.

>>724971332
maybe just watch the youtube playthorugh if you like rairoading and game telling you what to do

>>724963362
wont be for a few more years bro.

Its weird to have AI doing random shit in a country simulator like this.
I know the AI didn't go out of its way to actually get missions done in 4, but they still used the benefits like CBs and claims to grow in a way that somewhat fit the nations themselves and helped shape an endgame setup that was more than just a noise map.

I'm enjoying it, but then again one of my biggest gripes in EU4 were the missions, once they became bloated and overpowered. Started as Holland with a simple goal of dominating the Spice Trade and so far I have been able to move towards that goal exactly as I wanted to and at the pace I desired.
Map painters and missionfags lose, true creative GSG chads and RPers win.

>>724969863
kill manatards

>why the FUCK do i have to battle with the interface?
why the FUCK do i have to struggle to just open my country overview?
>why the FUCK is everything hidden away from me in menus located in satans anus?
why the FUCK do i get the location view when i click on other countries?
>why the FUCK do country borders just poof away when i am zoomed in?
why the FUCK is there not an option for action lock to show map tooltips?
>why the FUCK are all the numbers so small?
why the FUCK can i just not get a clean screen with my countries economy?
>why the FUCK do i have to hover over shit to actually see their value?
why the FUCK do i not see the societal value on privileges/laws that affect them?

>>724971783
This
You can do pretty much everything you want like mission tree, you just have to make up your goals instead
Missionfags lost hard

I dont get how these games can possibly be fun without cheating or savescuming

>>724971407
>>724971583
>i want every country to play the exact same which leads to bigger countries winning because they can snowball more easily than smaller ones
a big factor of the mission trees in eu4 is to give buffs to smaller countries so they can punch above their weight
if you are opposed to this you are opposed to campaigns lasting past 1550

So far, it feels like Imperator
I loved that game, I should really go back to it again.

>>724970715
the black death is kinda crazy in how fast it happens. mine started in 1347, swept through the entirety of europe and the middle east and killed 33%-50% of every countries population and then ended in 1350. not really enough time to do stuff like build hospitals since they're both expensive and take a year to build

>>724972198
or you can just learn to play the game

>>724972014
it's the opposite, it's only fun if you play ironman because savescumming makes it too easy

>>724972198
I think this is harder for people to understand who haven't played a lot of the more interesting tags EU4 has to offer like Riga or they haven't played mods like Anbennar that let you build one province countries to the moon. I feel like missions is one of the things they're going to backpedal on but maybe the idea is they can do enough of the railroading with in-depth flavor events built in to the game rather than accomplished through missions.

>>724972198
> buffs to smaller countries so they can punch above their weight
They can already do that in EUV without missiontrash
>play the exact same
Only happen if youre a brainlet blobber

>pick poland
>see that start screen
M-maybe I'll start with a tribal nation after all.

>>724970584
this guy is just describing every paradox game post hoi3

>>724972307
>Johan at his palace in Barcelona

my final thought on euv and paradox in general at this point: God I fucking hate johan

my torrent just finished!
I'm not sneeding desu

>>724961731 (OP)
Nope, come back in 3 years.

>>724971783
I liked missions but if situations work that's fine too.

>>724972398
>They can already do that in EUV without missiontrash
The AI can't.

is johan that meiou and taxes dev that paracucks hired or im thinking of someone else

>>724972014
pussy cheater bitchboy nigga

>>724972565
kill yourself.

>>724972198
tall/wide has nothing to do with missions
missions were always a crutch
i think paradox want everything to be steered by simulation, they managed to do it with economics in vic3, we'll see if this approach will work in general in eu5

>>724972642
Johan is Paradox anon.

>>724972398
>Only happen if youre a brainlet blobber
it's a map painter wtf else are you gonna do

so what went wrong?

epic!

>>724972731
Sorry this is EUV not EU4

>>724972785
No content, wait 2 more years

>>724972785
ck3 treatment, come back later.

>>724972724
>they managed to do it with economics in vic3
hahahahah

I still haven't figured out what's the fucking difference. It did crash my computer on ck3

>>724972820
what's the winning in this game then? epic economy?

>>724961731 (OP)
My craptop can't run it because it's only an i5

are you suppose to spam privileges to make peasants happy enough when you are serfdom maxing?

I'll just wait for the weeb mods

>>724971430
is a 305hp V6 enough to run eu5???

>>724961731 (OP)
Yeah

>>724972785
Too hard for Chinese gamers. Gacha slop literally made them retarded.

>>724972991
made me chuckle

>>724961731 (OP)
>need to watch a 1hr30 tutorial before playing the game

I could watch 5 anime episodes in that time

>>724972340
And You can't savescum with ironman or what? The strat in EUIV was either shutting down the game in task manager or making a backup of save file from Documents folder.

>>724972824
>release barebone "framework" of a game at launch with little to no content
>If the game sells well, keep releasing DLCs
>If not, get abandoned like imperator rome.
>And of course, steal contents from modders and fuck up their mod via changing codes for no apparent reason at all
>People buy their games anyway because no map painter autism simulator
this is what monopoly does to customers

>>724973169
Lots of work when you could just use a trainer.

>>724973165
stop skipping the ops and eds faggot

>>724973165
Which anime?

>>724972785
Honestly if you trust Paradox in big 2025 it's your fault.

after playing for an hour I think it's mostly okay. Started as Granada. The first pop-up actually taught something about the game. Missions were disabled by default so no tutorial. Made some tweaks in governments and laws got myself to -71 stability. No revolts so far though.
Eh, not keen on playing the market minigame. Stupid, stupid, stupid. Built a clay pit and an orchad but they got no laborers wtf? Seriously how hard is to work in a clay pit and food orchid in 14th century Granada? Dumb.
Wasn't able to test the army. Morocco seems to be hardcoded to offer an alliance which is nice. No suitable spouses for my king and his brother which is sad.
Anyway I am in a debt spiral and the run is probably over.

>>724972724
>tall/wide has nothing to do with missions
im not talking about playing tall or playing wide, im talking about missions making playing smaller tags viable in the mid/late game
right now in eu5 every european nation plays exactly the same because none of them have any guidance on a worthwhile playstyle
keyword GUIDANCE and not railroading or pigeonholing
you do not need to play exactly by your mission tree when playing as riga, hansa or bavaria in eu4 but if you want your campaign to last more than 150 years before youre eclipsed then you are encouraged to do so
it is not mandatory, it is guidance
eu5 has no guidance meaning there is no way for smaller tags (human and ai) to try and remain playable vs bigger tags at the start date
it looks like theres already a missions framework in the game though so hopefully modders can fix what paradox has failed to do yet again

>>724961894
Eu4 is nothing like Eu3. Ho2 is different from Hoi3 which is the diametrical opposite of Hoi4.

>>724973337
>Seriously how hard is to work in a clay pit and food orchid in 14th century Granada?
u ran out of pops instead of mana

>>724973360
>but if you want your campaign to last more than 150 years before youre eclipsed then you are encouraged to do so
skill issue

>>724961731 (OP)
I'm legitimately overwhelmed

>>724973430
But it showed there are 14k bodies available to work or did I misinterpret that? Profit prediction was in the green... Fuck.

situations don't seem to be ending in my game even when conditions are met

>>724973574
Me too.

>>724973574
Plays like Imperator bro, just play through it.
You can look up guides like a bitch, but you seem smart enough to figure it out yourself.
That's part of the fun! Minmax fags are why Hearts of Iron 4 is no longer challenging or fun.

>>724974006
>Minmax fags are why Hearts of Iron 4 is no longer challenging or fun.
can you not minmax in this game

Based Johan, thank you!

>commission artist
>he does nothing for fifteen years
AAAAAAAA

How do I cope with not being able to run it nor being able to afford a PC that can run it

>>724964080
>Tyrone
Thas rite

>>724974006
Yeah I am just taking breaks between reading shit.
I am now at loans and about to have a breakdown remembering that shit from EU4

>>724974203
Don't try to figure out a way to run it anyway, I did that a long time ago with Victoria 2 and the game ran at a negative framerate so it was pointless, even if I did ultimately find a way to emulate that driver.

>>724974080
You can, but it's not going to be finalized for a few more weeks as we're all still experimenting.

>>724974203
Get a payday loan, they'll hook you up.

Is Castile noob friendly or do I play England

>>724964080
the ui is so ugly

at least its not ck3 levels of ugly though

>>724974290
>as we're all still experimenting.
didnt utubefags play this for like 2 months already

>only have 8GB ram
it's chudover

>>724974364
They've been playing since May.

>>724974290
>Get a payday loan, they'll hook you up.
No they won't retard, the entire issue is that I live in a country where this shit is 500% the normal price because of taxes

It's basically impossible to buy the parts without being rich, which is why i have to use a laptop. It can run EU4 good and all, but it's below the minimum requirement for EU5.

can anyone show terrain up close?

>>724970625
Ah mr swimmy, I think we in da trouble

>>724973583
when i built a building it said it was going to take 122 months for pops to turn into workers to fully employ the building, you probably have to wait for pops to promote

>>724974084
I'm currently living in Spain right now and I was thinking of going back to Ireland in 2026 because I can't get a stable job here
You think that if I go to Barcelona and ask Johan for a job he will give me one? I could be a translator and a beta tester

>>724974401
>500% the normal price
let me guess, argentina?

>>724974490
Basically the same situation as them.

>>724970584
lots of games like this, wide as an ocean with 500+ civilizations or whatever to choose from yet most play the exact same with minor tweaks. crippled by underwhelming AI that cannot strategize.
lots of these long-campaign games (total war, rimworld) suffer the exact same thing: the campaigns are so long that you just get bored of nothing happening. you start to fast forward/end turn to hopefully get to the 'good part' only for it to never arrive, as the battles/events that occur are just scaled-up tedium rather than interesting strategic encounters.

it's ultimately the fault of poor AI programming in all of these games. the AI fails to create interesting believable scenarios. it's either the AI is too stupid to play properly, or the AI receives cheat-codes and you receive debuffs (difficult modes) in order to cope around the lack of thinking AI. and so the 'challenge' becomes cranking the difficulty mode to max, memorizing an encyclopedia's worth of exploits, and trying to execute them in order properly like a chess opening to see if you can dig yourself out of a '500x IMPOSSIBLE' scenario.

poor AI is always the weak point for these 8000+ hour singleplayer games, so many games with the exact same issue.

>>724972785
>>724972824
>>724972886
>>724973012
>>724973324
Apologize
>>724970584
>Automate everything
>WOW GUYS THERES NOTHING TO DO I'M BORED!
Literal subhuman behavior, go back to watching tiktoks

>>724974487
>a translator and a beta tester
Clearly two positions that aren't in demand at PDX Tinto.

>>724974576
I remember that in ck2 the ai was very fucking aggressive, I was shitting myself to andalusia califate during my aragon playthrough and basically survive by making the byzantine fight in all my wars.

Ok I'm already stuck, how the fuck do you claim a province

WHAT DO YOU MEAN THERE'S NO POTATOES???

>>724974853
you don't need claims anymore

>>724974780
i can see why people enable paper maps

>>724974486
for context this is the window that shows this

how do I turn my provinces into subjects

DLing the game and gonna play as byzantium and kill as many cath*lics as possible

the "party trick" this game has is that it can automate everything but they made everything even more a clusterfuck under the hood? i never bothered trying to understand how trade worked in eu4 and now every mechanic is like that unless you automate it or something? and from what i recall blobbing is harder now?

>>724974581
>ticks up one whole percent
still 67 on steamdb btw

The UI looks like such fucking dogshit, whenever anyone brought it up the devs just said it was WIP but looks like it that was a lie. The 3d models are fucking gross looking too.

>>724974572
>expecting someone to think you're not a burger
Saar, American website.

>>724974364
98% of streamers are mouth-breathers.
I seen most of them play EU4, this game definitely goes over their head.

>>724975319
not really

Do i move my capital to reikjavik or hvolsvollur? planning on colonizing the new world.

>>724975425
>UK
>Germoney
>Poland
>Boring people
Probably an /int/ survey.

>>724972785
nothing, seems perfectly fine
i think you are habbitual complainers who enjoy shit talking games more than playing games

>>724975140
There's a release subjects button somewhere

>>724975540
vst survey on this game
so autists

>>724975317
Any time they claim something is "WIP" or that "numbers aren't final" are literally always lying, it's purely to give themselves an excuse to handwave when people tell them their idea sucks. They're already set on it and simply know people will forget by the time whatever they're shilling is actually out.

Every single game they do this, hell every expansion for every game they do this, it's why I don't even bother reading DDs anymore until a patch is live.

automation exposed the game. clicking a button to level up your lumberyard from t2 to t3 or sending a happy letter to your neighbors isn't interesting strategically, it's just tedium. so the 2 or 3 things you can do every 30 minutes are now automated, meaning the gameplay is nothing more than waiting around for things to finish

>>724974203
Geforce Now?

>>724975140
on the diplomacy screen there is a button to create subject

>>724974857
the english steal them

>>724975626
If you automate anything you cannot complain the game is boring.

>>724975626
I recommend ignoring that.

>>724975702
If the game is so easy that it can be automated, where is the strategy?

>>724975738
If it's so easy why automate?

>>724974876
I just no CB some nigga and can take everything? No way

>>724975767
Do you always breathe manually too?

bake

>>724975838
Irrelevant, you just lost liberal.

>>724975906
concession accepted

>>724975767
because it's tedium, clearly the developers recognized that majority of these systems do not require much thought but do require much input. during testing they too must've realized that there is a lot of time wasted micromanaging numbers, so they introduced the automation system. the problem is they forget to develop the interesting gameplay part that these systems were supposed to enable.

my computer can't run the game...

>some reviews hail this as the next coming of christ
>some reviews say it's complete repetitave garbage

So which is it? obviously, the reviews about multiplayer and pc specs I ignored. I planned for this to be my first GSG. Obviously "trying" it out. What am I in for?

>>724975626
>me when i buy a sandbox game and play it like wow

>>724976006
>they forget to develop the interesting gameplay
Isn't that just Victoria 3?

>>724976039
it's back to the mana mines for us, toastersisters...

>>724976049
Seems to me the people that refuse to engage the game and automate it don't have fun, people that are going through every single aspect are having fun by virtue of being overwhelmed and learning to play.

>>724976049
the truth is we need maybe 1 month before the consensus happen, in the meantime play something else

johan won bigly

Incredible how people who haven't even played a full campaign yet are here telling you how hard / easy / deep / fun the game is

Yes, I'm sure anon who has watched 10 minutes of a review fully understands the mechanics.

>>724976165
im 100% gonna automate economy forever. in eu4 i never bothered learning it in 200hrs+

>>724976165
I plan to learnt to play but I feel like these GSG will have the same fate as 4x games where after a run of two everything feels the same and your leader/nation/factions etc just end up being cosmetics. With that being said there are tons of GSG so if I do end up liking this I can try out any of the others. I've tried HoI4 but just being dropped in was daunting and i ended up uninstalling but I'll give this a proper go.

>>724976272
I can play it now with no stakes involved so why wouldn't I?

>>724976347
There was one review with like 200+ hours roasting the game but he was getting called out in the comments on steam, not sure what to believe.

>>724976376
do it them

MOVE IN
>>>/vst/2200977

>>724974780
Are you running it on a 1060 or something? I know it's not the prettiest game but it looks like absolute shit on your machine.

>>724976347
there are at least 50 other games like this, i guarantee whatever fun elements this game has are shared with the rest of those, same with all the issues.

>>724976525
2K IS NEAR

>>724976369
There's nothing to learn. There's goods production (dev), tax (dev), trade (dev), reparations (war) and inflation (dev).

Neat, it tells you the historical choice

>>724976525
I only post my iron storm and shining force playthroughs there.