Thread 724998164

Ok lads it's been out for 10 hours. What's your impresion of the game?

TOTAL C*STILIAN DEATH

Slammed the automation button for the Production tab. Fuck me if I'm going to deal with an entire Vicky autism minigame inside of a game that already has 50 things to micromanage.
Other than that, it's fun. I like the new pop system though you spend so long in the early ages where interacting with Religion is mandatory, you can't go full "fuck the church" or "I am the church" for a long time.

I have no clue what I'm doing in this game

>>724998531
Build Cav
Put them on the flanks
Fight brown people
Win
Expand
Paint map

Is it just me or are characters way too fucking good? Why do I consistently have a 90+ military guy somewhere in my country ready to serve?

>>724998692
What country? It could be a bonus you get, different countries have different modifiers
In England I rarely ever get a 90+ unless I spam the button to pay money for new ones

>>724998646
You can have a professional army in the Rennaisance.

>>724998587
this but fight wypipo

>>724998840
I'm playing as Portugal and got 3 in a row, my second one defected to Castile after beating the shit out of them and a new 90+ popped up

I just wanna hijack this thread to say I cannot for the life of me understand vicky3.
>why is my economy in the shitter
>why did my gdp just tank
>wait, what does this law do again?
>okay i think i understand, my economy is good and the private sector is picking up my slack
>wait, why are people rebelling against me?
>how do I use my army?
this is basically the cycle everytime i boot up the game. there is always some random thing i forgot to check whether some pops are randomly starving, or radicals jumped crazy high without my knowledge.
I tried to teach my brother how to play ck3 over the weekend, and he got the gist of it just about in a couple of hours. that game i have thousands of hours in, why cant I get into vicky3?

Anyways, how does eu5 compare in learning curve?

>>725000098
>Anyways, how does eu5 compare in learning curve
EU5 literally has Vickys entire market system baked in, alongside CK3s levies and dynasty stuff

>>725000098
everything you just said about vicky but even worse

>>724998164 (OP)
My only issues with EU5 right now are the markets being fucking unreasonable and impossible to figure out and the weather fucking me over with 0 visual indicator of anything being different

Could a spastic geezer learn how to play? Might pirate this first. Never really tried these outside of Stellaris.

>Mostly Positive
oh no no, what happened now?

>>725000349
Do you have autism

>>724998164 (OP)
>Played as Muscovy, doing fuckall for 50 years
>Played as Castille, buckbroke my neighbors and stackwiping for shits and giggles.
It's definitely Imperator: Rome 2, but I feel like I'm missing something critical about markets because Vic3, for what it is, has a much better way of showing market deficiencies and demand.

>>725000391
it's reskinned vicky 3 without 2 years of QoL updates and bugfixing

>>725000349
Start with EU4 and once you understand that, play the MEIOU and Taxes mod. EU4 is probably the most immediately comprehensible Paradox game, imo. M&T is what directly inspired EU5.

>>724998164 (OP)
I've only played CK3 and HOI4, modded, never touched vanilla. What is this game like?

>>725000391
I feel like mostly positive is miraculously high for a new paradox game.

>>725001378
it was mixed a few hours ago

This game is so much more granular than EU IV which is cool but early game is pretty damn slow if you aren't a giga nigga nation.

>>725000396
Not really unless I manage to induce it artificially.
>>725001264
There's no point in playing UE4 because I asked about UE5. I have always sort of hated the UI in these games. It's sort of database editor with flags instead of something more comprehensible. Plus UI elements and layouts have been awful in Paradox games.
Thought if UE5 perhaps manages to make it better in this sense.

>>724998164 (OP)
>not a single positive review with over 10 hours
I'm gonna wait.

>100 years between EU4 and EU5
>map is exactly the same

>>725001336
50% EU4 + 22.5% CK3 + 22.5% Vicky + 5% Imperator
>>725001434
I actually really like the slower pace

>>724998646
time to git gud instead of cheesing

>>725001518
Nothing ever happens in real life unlike EU where you have 1 guy conquer all of Europe in 5 years

>>724998164 (OP)
>kyiv

>>724998164 (OP)
woke tranny DeI soulless sloppa

>>725001649
don't google Napoleon

>finished tutorial as Castile
>don't know who to invade first or declare rival
halp

If I liked EU3, loved Vicky 2, ignored HOI4, put 1000 hours into HOI4 and liked my single playthroughs of Vicky 3 and Imperator, how would I like EU5?

console release when?

>>725001694
Why you say that?

>>725001749
Yeah

>>725001749
ignored EU4*

>>725001784
see
>>725001665

>>725001784
he has holes in his head.

>>725001729
stop blobbing chud, this is anti blob game
now jerk off your sliders and build buildings for 500 years

>>725001447
If you understand an earlier game, it is easier to on-ramp into a later game.
EU5 is still fundamentally very similar to EU4, but more complicated.
Don't run before you can walk.

>>725001665
>>725001816
>>725001694
Respecting Ukraine's sovereignty is not woke you maga mind rotted bigot

>>725001784
>>725001665
also women rulers, full of niggers, swedish developers

The shogunate is...
too powerful!

>>725002295
Are the niggers in nigger countries or?

>>725003216
or

I formed Ryukyu. Is this game for casuals? I didn't have to build a standing army, didn't have to fabricate claims, didn't have to navigate around alliances and didn't have to core and worry about admin costs. I just warred, won, formed ryukyu.

>>725000259
Having multiple markets in my country makes me want to bang my head against a wall. It just makes me want to automate it but then I'm not really learning everything, and even when I automate it my pops and buildings are missing shit.

I really want to like this game but fuck this UI is something else...

>>725001665
the only people who get mad about shit like this are subhuman ivans and with as many hours in dota 2 as I have its humanly impossible for me to have empathy for russians so IDGAF.
if they call turkey "turkiye" or whatever the fuck erdogan wants people to call it nowadays I also won't give a fuck. japan doesn't actually call itself "japan" either

>>725001909
Whatever, retard.

>>725004000
I just learned that making roads is also very important for more control 50 years in.

>>725003971
EU5 players like to engage in intellectual masturbation by talking about how deep its mechanics are, but in reality it's a much easier game because AI understands fuckall about those mechanics. In EU4 it understood more.

>>725004086
The tutorial tells you control scales off distance to capital and shows you on the map then tells you to build roads

skill issue

>>724998164 (OP)
my biggest gripe is that the graphics regressed back to early 2000's levels. The UI reminds me of the pre-4 games or shitty mobile knockoff games while the character portraits look worse than ck2's

I haven't watched or looked at anything about the game before hand.
It looks like mixture of eu3 and ck2/3. Kinda pleasantly suprised. It isn't eu4 click button and things happen style. Rather eu3 adjust things, click things and slowly things change.
Also seems more complex. Probably fun. I will get to it eventually

>>725004139
>Skill issue over one arbitrary mishap
Bandwagoner

>>724998164 (OP)
Is that UI tutorial from EU channel good for newfags?

Why are people complaining about the UI? It's basically EU4.

>>725004086
This is in the fucking tutorial, anon.

>>725004320
EU4 but ported into 2025 so all soul is gone

Where the fuck is the ray tracing?

>no custom nation starts or anbennar for probably a year+
meh if its anything like the last several paradox games I'll just wait. Having pops is cool but it didn't save vicky 3 at all

Are there Jews like my beloved vicky2
And can you kill them

>>725004425
It seems every Paradox games must have pops these days.
They even put pops in Stellaris and it fucked up the game big time.

>>725004561
Yes there are jews, unsure yet if you can kill.

>>725004595
>They even put pops in Stellaris and it fucked up the game big time.
stellaris had pops from day 1 they were just tokens you put on the tiles of planets. later when they got rid of the tile system for planets pops stuck around but assigned to jobs in a menu instead. the most recent rework just added a few 0s to them for the UI (4000 pops is more like 4 in the old system) and consolidated their decision making to reduce lag.

but stellaris always had population/pops as a tangible resource in the game

>>725004345
Yes, I've already read the tutorial, that's why I said I just learned. Thank you spud, just having fun on my first blind run.
Don't know why you're fingerwagging like a killjoy. I'm most likely better than you anyways.

>>725001518
>took one hundred years for Portugal to take 2 provinces from morocco
Is he even trying?

>>724998164 (OP)
So does the black death just brings the game to a halt for 50 or so years?

>>725004726
Yeah but stellaris is a boring shitty game

>>725004595
Imperator pops were good until they aborted the game about 6 months before it would have been fixed

Oh fuck this is way more complicated than EU4

>>725004884
>Yeah but stellaris is a boring shitty game
I mean you can say that about any paradox game. compared to CK3, Victoria 3, and EU4 I think Stellaris is probably the most fun game in active development. My favorite is probably Age of Wonders 4 but thats only published by Paradox, they're not the actual devs. Heavily modded EU4 with shit like Anbennar is fun but I'm not gonna give credit to Paradox for other people's work.

>>724998164 (OP)
The AI DOES FUCKING NOTHING

>>725004726
Wait, I though in 3.0 you didn't really have pops, it was just buildings that made resources.
Unlike now that has pops who work on buildings and the produce the resources.

>>725005000
Just like real life

>>725000172
Was too brainlet for victoria 2. Am I going to be too brainlet for this?

>>725004951
No it isn't.
>>725003971

>>725004978
I literally only enjoy stellaris during the exploring phase. Once you get the map reveal with the space UN bullshit it just completely falls off the cliff and managing planets is boring as fuck and the combat is so bad that there's just nothing going for it

Does it run worse than Vicky 3?

>>725005127
A little

>>724998587
t. Anglo who got btfo'ed on the continent and resorted to "civilising" browns to cope
>>725000098
Vic3 isn't that hard. You want to pass laws that allow free trade as much as possible so that you don't even really need to bother about your economy as the private investment pool will do the job.
Don't be scared to go on deficit early on and build construction centres to kick-start your economy
Make a lot of trade centres and focus on a few goods that your country can focus en masse (like wood in Russia) and export like crazy
Pass investment rights treaties with smaller countries so that your private investment pool can build profitable buildings in their countries
Rebellions will happen. Just have an army ready when it does, but try to keep your government legitimate by changing who's in power to avoid them
The army is literally one click. Raise your troops (build barracks first) and assign them to the front line, then just watch

>>725005038
>I though in 3.0 you didn't really have pops, it was just buildings that made resources.
no, 3.0 still had pops and each pop's genetic traits, political faction, and social strata were individually tracked; this is what led to lag lategame since the entire galaxy was full of high-population planets running calculations on job priority and strata promotion/demotion every month, the joke was you'd blow up everybody's planets with world crackers to reduce the number of pops in the galaxy and reduce lag.
now in 4.0 pops are in groups of 100 with the numbers added and they contribute to a pool of labor for jobs instead of each specifically having a job. In 3.0, if you built a Lab on a planet it would add exactly 2 scientist jobs and 2 pops would need to either promote or demote to work as Specialists for it assuming you didn't have open specialists already. In 4.0 system building science districts will give you like 400 manpower's worth of science jobs and pops can fill the manpower.

Unfortunately the other big source of lag is fleet pathfinding and movement and thats even worse in 4.0 if anything, thousands of ships in large galaxies makes performance chug, I wish they'd make all ships like 10x as expensive and just boost their fleet power to compensate, thats basically what the star trek spinoff did

I don't really have any lag? My computer was mid when I bought it 7 years ago.

It's fun to be a republic and just building trade offices everywhere and dominate the markets. I recommend hansearic league for a fully market autism playthrough.

>>725005384
Usually happen mid-late game

>>725005329
Huh I must have a really old version since mine has the non tile worlds but with those low pop numbers. Sounds like a good change. Is it worth redownloading or will I just get bored with the game after hitting space UN again?

>>724998164 (OP)
I find it fun. I liked M&T so I appreciate the slower pace, granularity and the non instant effect of my actions.

What are the first impressions?

>>725005821
It's a masterpiece.

can you play as cute girls in this game

>>725005821
Bugs and lot of bugs
Eu4fags and blobbers filtered HARD
Otherwise 10/10 for true gsgchads

Is it actually good? I have not followed EU5 at all since my faith in Paradox is below 0

>>725005957
It is good but there is quite lot of bugs and the AI is just dumb,

>>725005821
It's not even a game. You're just doing your taxes, and watching number fluxuate. There is no satisfaction, unlike EU4, where every move felt like you were doing something.

>>725005750
>Is it worth redownloading or will I just get bored with the game after hitting space UN again?
IDK when you last quit, but there were several new Crisis options added to the game with the last couple expansions that have gone a good way to forcing the game to end once you get to lategame. The new Psionic shit and shroud stuff is worth at least one playthrough messing with as well.
If you have the typical issue of getting bored once the galaxy is established and most space is occupied, I would suggest cranking up the crisis modifiers for midgame and endgame crises, then toggling all crises active instead of rolling for one. Then you can set the dates for midgame/endgame earlier as well so they trigger sooner after exploration phase ends, this will keep you busy and not just slowly map painting or blobbing via diplomacy untilyou get bored.

also for the love of god dont pay for any of the fucking dlc, it's incredibly easy to pirate if you own the actual base game so just do that. Thats honestly the only way I'd recommend playing any paradox game, get the base game on steam and then just pirate all the DLC.

>>725005956
You can still blob you just can't WC in like 100 years without actual consequences

>>725001710
>19th century is the same as 14th and 15th

>>725006039
>unlike EU4, where every move felt like you were doing something

>>725006039
>There is no satisfaction, unlike EU4, where every move felt like you were doing something.
EU4, the game that literally runs entirely on Mana and pressing the develop button?

>PAINT THE HECKIN MAP
>in a game played mainly by a far-right-wing audience that despises globalism

>>724998164 (OP)
Best change is that they removed the eu4 mission trees. They're just a tutorial now.

>>725006196
We go full religion of peace mode and genocide the natives

>>725006196
>despises globalism
world conquest isn't exactly the same as modern globalism though. if your definition of globalism labels Ghenghis Khan as one thats kind of a useless definition

Do I need to do the tutorial if I have a few hundred hours in EU4, CK3 and VIC3 already? I hate tutorials

>>725006061
I guess my main issue is the game just feels way too ADHD with how big the empires get and if you aren't turbo expanding from day 1 you'll run have literally 2 or 3 giga nigga neighbors who take up literally the whole map. It just feels distinctly unfair and too fast to be fun. Even with all the stuff turned to 11 to try and slow the game down the only one which has any impact is upping research costs but that doesn't change the autistic survey->build outpost gameplay loop being the only thing to do if you don't have more planets or archeology to explore. Are there any mods which address this? I really want to enjoy stellaris because space is cool but as I said it just feels way too arcadey and gamey

>>725006196
It's not really globalism if you paint it of the correct red color.

>>725006354
>from day 1
You have like 30 years before anyone actually does anything significant and paradox AI basically never declares war on you in any game without some form of provocation

>>725006196
Yeah but if I do it it's good

>>725006354
>you'll run have literally 2 or 3 giga nigga neighbors who take up literally the whole map. It just feels distinctly unfair and too fast to be fun
if this is happening you might have Advanced AI Empires enabled. basically if that setting is turned on there will be a couple AI empires with a significant head start instead of everybody making it to space at the same time. otherwise it might just be genocidals like devouring swarm or purifiers snowballing early but they're still constrained by resources early game a lot (especially since they can't abuse diplomacy for migration pacts and vassals)
>Are there any mods which address this? I really want to enjoy stellaris because space is cool but as I said it just feels way too arcadey and gamey
you could try some of the stuff in gigastructures if you want more depth to the tech trees and being able to build tall easier but fair warning a lot of that shit is incredibly imbalanced, at least its modular and you can turn everything on or off at the start of the game

>>725005213
>t. Anglo who got btfo'ed on the continent and resorted to "civilising" browns to cope
Kek, this is me any time I lost the unification war in Italy in EU4. I just go form Jerusalem instead.

>>725001518
lots of wars over dynastic shenanigans fucked over both castile and portugal pretty hard for most of the period
aragon was busy blobbing elsewhere in the med

>>725006442
That is blatantly false
Try playing a neighbour of the Ottomans or France in EU4
Try to play a small German state in Vic3 or worse, an African country without being colonised by England or France.
If you're a big dog sure they won't attack you much because they're not stupid

>>725006128
do not google Caesar

>>725006442
The AI will fuck you up in Imperator: Rome and in Vicky 2 as far as I know.

>>725006512
>>725006442
In every game once I see the whole map there is almost always 2-3 assholes who literally own 80% of space, and they aren't marked as advanced or fallen empires and even when I do everything perfect I can't even come close to being competitive with them so I just get roflstomped because I always play as xenophobe dickhead humanity to larp as the imperium of man so I get dow'd instantly. Really been sucking the fun out of my attempts to exterminates when I just can't even get started.

>>725006128
Don't google Genghis Khan

>>725006780
>and they aren't marked as advanced or fallen empires
there's not a specific mark for them in-game, its just a setting at galaxy creation.

>>725006713
>The 1st century BC is the same as the 14th and 15th centuries

>>725006783
>The 12th century is the same as the 14th and 15th centuries
>Not even a European example

So is France the most gigabusted nation in this game?

>>725006442
You get death warred by your neighbors in the first twenty years tops if you pick Arbadil in EU4.

There's so much shit everywhere I have no idea what to do lmao

jesus this shit is dense
nice improvement on complexity over eu4 though

>>725006945
France was so OP irl they had to pick massive debuffs (see: let blacks into their country) to even have competition because UKbabbies were constantly coping and sneeding at them

>>725006945
I mean, France IS the main antagonist of the period, with the Ottomans.

>>725006925
>1 guy could do thing in 40 BC
>1 guy could do thing in 1800s
>1 guy could do thing in 1100s

>1 guy ABSOLUTELY CANNOT do thing in 1300s

There's so many small buttons and I have no idea how to cancel a siege

>>725007141
Yes

>>725006945
La France was the main character of European history
it had to neuter itself to not dominate the continent

>>725007073
Ahem

>>725006945
always has been

Waiting for the Isekai mod where you instantly research technologies because you can just look up how to do it with your cheat item

Mesoamerican history autist please

Can somebody post all the in game traits/values for Precolumbian nations, like their starting population, development, government types, etc?

I also wanna see what the UI graphical stuff and art assets look like for Mesoamerican nations

>>725006181
Yes, because how you spend mana determines how effectively you can expand your country and what you can achieve in-game.

>>725007434
whoops, meant to say "here", not "please"

Its incredibly difficult to find out which buildings are built in which province and which buildings are build able ontop of seeing the cost of the goods etc

>>725004014
>IDGAF

You're literally throwing a tantrum over it.

>>724998164 (OP)
I don't understand paradox's everlasting war against blobbing
how are they this retarded they can't understand that:
>blobbing good
>vassalplay good
>tall good
>meme good
>challenge good
options are fine, it's up to the gaymers to actually play how they want, not them putting a million fucking restrictions
fucking retards

>>725007434
You can probably just look at https://forum.paradoxplaza.com/forum/developer-diary/tinto-flavour-31-11th-of-july-2025-aztecs.1837805/ and https://forum.paradoxplaza.com/forum/threads/tinto-maps-29-central-america-feedback.1855759/, there's not much I can see in game that significantly differs from what's in here

Here's the pop map at least

>>725007434
>>725007571
VGH... imagine what they could have accomplished with metallurgy...

>>725007795
but anon-kun, you can play wide and blob, it just takes you a bit longer to do it now because of control.

>>725007795
People who are against blobbing in EU4 don't actually know how to play the game. They don't know how to blob and get fucked by game mechanics, so they go sour grapes over it and say it's dumb and takes no skill. Sadly, they make up the majority of nu-PDX's audience so they catered to them by making a game that SEEMS complicated, but actually provides no challenge whatsoever. The only reason they want to play EU5 is to impress their Discord friends who know even less about GSGs.

>>725005213
>free trade is good in game
Hm… so why isnt it good in real life then

>>725007881
Yeah, they changed mechanics that took skill to overcome into mechanics that hardblock so that the least skilled player and the most skilled player can expand roughly at the same time.

Hhhholy shit I almost missed a paradox game, thx OP.
Reviews looking goodm gonna try.
Never played ant EU games is it that hard?

>>725008129
>He doesn't Dutchmaxx
ngmi

>>725008186
>Never played ant EU games is it that hard?
This one is not very beginner friendly

>play 40 years
>bug destroys my diplomats
>can't do anything for the rest of the game
I uninstalled.

How do you build a bridge?

>>725004161
>medium settings
>100 FPS
>GPU at 80%
>CPU never goes above 50%
This game

>>725008081
>pretending blobbing was hard

hahaha holy fuck

>>725008229
That's a lie, there's automation to let the AI play the game for you for things you don't want to do like buildings, marrket, etc.

>>725007867
They obviously smelted gold

They also did do some bronze metallurgy, they just never totally adopted it over stone and wood tools/weapons

Did the first EU even have a map?

>>725008419
Gold melts at a lower temperature than copper. It's incredibly easy to smelt

>>725007841
Thanks, I'll have to ponder about the pop totals more later, though right off the bat I can tell northern Mesoamerica is probably a bit too populated, and everything else, especially Central Mexico, is probably not populated enough.

Is it easy for you to get a total population sum for every nation there put together?

The character model is okay, the Tilmatli should really be tied around the shoulder though and worn draped over the shoulder/sides rather then front to back. The throne room uses real Mesoamerican motifs at least, but I'm not quite feeling the layout and some motif choices do feel a little careless (EX: the sun stone on the back)

>>725008623
Right, but it is still metallurgy. And as I said, they smelted bronze too

chud simulator 2025

>>725008756
I wish.

>>725006945
People forget the only reason we don't all speak French is that the French politely stopped breeding centuries before everyone else.

>>725008883
So if they didn't we'd all speak Arabic now?

>>725008694
>Is it easy for you to get a total population sum for every nation there put together?
No, but I'm pretty sure people on the forum already complained it's a low count

>>725009009
No, the Arabs would also speak French. The French were very into Frenchifying everyone else.

>>725008883
Never understood that. Why did they stop? The French revolution?

>>725009116
I think it started before then, and I'm not sure anyone knows? Maybe their society was just collectively pleasant enough that they didn't feel the need to maximize child gains. Couldn't have been overpopulation; Asia had denser civilizations.

>hre pops asking for rice in 1337
huh? isn't rice an asian thing?

>>725009080
Yes, as I also did here on 4chan, but they upped the population total recently, from what I am told, and it seems in a way which is based more on 18th century population trends or something, hence northern mesoamerica getting too much compared to Central Mexico

Unless people are still complaining even after they upped it, which i wouldn't doubt

>>725001518
lazy fucking mexicans

>>725009009
maybe we would if the umayyads won Tours

>>725001665
That's become the English name, yes.

>>725009281
Rice was grown in southern Europe before this time period. It wasn't a revolutionary new introduction like potatoes and tomatoes.

MY FUCKING GLORIOUS BRVNDENBVRG IS LOSING MONEY FOR LITERALLY NO REASON!!! WHAT THE FUCK DO I DO!!! IVE WRECKED THE COURT AND DROPPED MAINTENANCE FOR COURTS BUT IM STILL BLEEDING MONEY!!!

>>725009220
Its because they smoke and drink while eating one baguette a day. they're all skinny and infertile, with shot lungs and liver.

>>725009090
Well shit, I wouldn't want to speak French but it probably would have been a better future than now

>>725009454
She got fucked for this tank model didn't she?

>>725009456
>french peasants slaving away to build a new catwalk for the local lord so he can have a walk-off against the lord one town over

>>725009454
Delete this image.

>born to play UE5
>forced to have a 2 hour teams meeting
Bros...

>>725009536
total french domination would unironically solve a lot of historical and modern problems. and we probably wouldn't be embarrassed by speaking french if everyone else was doing it..

>>725009448
interesting

>>725009618
>oh no my camera is broken

tried it out on my ryzen 3600, shit's pretty slow. im still waitfagging for zen 6

>>725009829
Runs ok for me.

Game is really great. There was almost nothing to do besides war in EU4, this gives a lot of stuff to do in peace time.

Why is the UI so brown and lacking in soul?

>>725006945
I started my first game as France. 3000 hours in EU4 but no idea what I'm doing here. Automated buildings, RGOs, and trade completely at first. I unautomated buildings after a while just to save up money spam Armories and other military buildings, I haven't tried actually making money yet.

HYW was super easy, it's like EU4 where you have more troops and the war is on your land so England just loses. First war I took his northern two locations and money. Second war I'd gotten cores somehow, declared for cores, ate all of Aquitaine. That meant England was kicked off the continent. Then I slowly integrated some vassals, and the situation was over. Took about 10 years in total, it ended as the Black Death was happening. The Black Death killed half my fucking pops, way worse than I expected.

After that I mostly gobbled up more vassals and ate franche-comte when I got a random claim throne CB (couldn't claim throne because of a bug but I didn't want to anyway, PUs are shit)

1390 now, just finished an opportunistic war with Aragon and Navarre for some border locations. Standing army is about 3k regulars, half are handgooners, I only made 3 stacks of arty but I think building a lot more would help with sieges. Handgooners seem not that great, morale damage seems not that useful unlike EU4 with the early morale meta

Apparently I have 10 hours in the game already.

Anyway I'd say yeah France seems pretty easymode. I'm just bumbling around doing stuff wrong but nobody can seriously threaten me. The vassal swarm makes it retard proof. Normandy had about half as many troops as England by itself and more war participation in the first war than me. I guess if you want to beat France as England you have to peel the subjects away somehow. That's how it went in real life i guess.

For me, it's playing as Eastern Roman Empire since EU2

you can't control which recipe buildings use if you're automating trade in a market? why is my tailor trying to import silk when i have infinity wool

>>725010824
The ERE in my game inexplicably broke down into a bunch of random countries, so constantinople is property of the "Duchy of Byzantion"
It's not even a vassal it's just a sovereign country ruled by some Greek guy. I have no fucking clue what happened

>>725010834
ok nevermind even with auto off it keeps switching the recipe???

>>725010294
>so brown and lacking in soul
Just like Sweden

>>725010948
There are other auto-options for recipe, usually they keep it to ‘most profitable one’

>>725010918
the real byzantine empire had a fragmentation period toward the end of its run.

>>725010824
I am waiting for the expansion to fix them, right now they look and feel wayy to latin/western.

LUCIFER IST BÖS GESELLE, GESELLE
MARIA

>>725004139
>get fuck all money because every province outside my capital has barely any control
>can't build roads to increase control because they're too expensive
>also can't build buildings to fix my economy because i have fuck all pops and i'm also too poor to afford them
In retrospect, playing as Wales as my first choice was probably a bad idea.

>>724998387
>12 cav
Are they rarer in this game?

>>725008382
true but you're only hurting yourself in the long run by not learning the games mechanics and letting the cpu do all the work for you.

>>725005109
100%. The space UN crap is so fucking awful.
>Spend a ton of time and effort fiddling over stupid fucking shit that you either can't really do anything about or doesn't affect anything
>Throw hordes of ships at one another with basically no strategy
The gameplay alone is bad and then you just pile on the shitty dlc practices and it's just insane how anybody is a fan of that game

>>725011312
Start minting, start borrowing money, focus on rgo around your capital first, build market buildings

>>725005109
stellaris devs were way too easily influenced by the retarded suggestions of a vocal minority of the player base/

>>725011386
at start of game you mostly use peasant levies for your armies as actual manpower for regular soldiers is very low. As you get through the ages, you unlock more manpower buildings so you can eventually field mostly regular trained soldiers instead of levies.

>>725011292
HALLELUJA!

SALVATION!

>>725011386
Levies are raised from pops, noble levies are knights on horseback, but nobles are like 1% of the population, so cavalry levies are very small.
Of course you can build a professional army but that takes time
Also regiments are all different sizes now. Like in Age II the infantry regiment is 200 men but the artillery stacks are only 50 men.

>>725011825
>noble levies are knights on horseback
So does it matter that you're almost guaranteed to kill them off every battle or are they just a number?

>>725011891
If they die then nobles in the location they were raised in will die
Well, technically when you raise levies the pops are already gone from the province, since they left to join the army. And when you disband levies the dead nobles aren't coming back

>>725005109
>>725011442
how would (you) make the combat better?

>>725012017
Sorry senpai I charge for consultations

>>724998164 (OP)
I'm having a blast!

>>725012005
Ok, but they are not actual characters in my court/cabinet? Just a pop?

>pick my 3rd world shithole
>forget to check the year
>End of a dynasty time frame
fuck, I wish they let me play 1226 or 1230, let me fight the Mongol.

>>725012103
Well the characters all belong to estates, and have birthplaces. So maybe pops change when characters die, not sure. It'd be a tiny change but maybe if your population was small enough you could check. Characters can die in battles or sieges, but it's not directly tied to a pop I think. I saw on a stream someone's fleet sunk in the middle of the ocean but the admiral character survived, must've swam back home.

You guys were not memeing. This game really is an unholy fusion of eu4, vic3 and ck3. Not sure if it's a good or bad thing yet but I'm completely lost.

not going to lie the 3d characters look really goofy, not as bad as ck3 but still distracting.

>at war
>see a popup over enemy province
>"Hostile Parliament in session here"
>can conquer the province to tear enemy parliament down for the lulz
This game is 200% SOVL

>>725012113
this might be salvageable...
I guess time to get a loan to hire some mercenaries, then beat up the lender.

>>725006436
agree

How come they removed paradox launcher on this one

>>725012736
people hate it and they listened

>>725012017
Copy it from Imperium Galactica 2. In fact copy everything from Imperium Galactica 2.

>>725012736
DEVS LISTENED

>>724998164 (OP)
It's actually really good.

Does the Netherlands have any fun flavour?

>>725012817
Why? It was great for mod management.

>>725012736
In EU4 they had a whole period where they tried to make it so you can exit to the main menu without crashing the game and restarting it first, but they failed. So this time they hyper-invested into making the game load instantly and exit/resume quickly. In doing so they made the launcher obsolete.

it's funny, the game never crashed but if it did I wouldn't even give a shit because the entire game launches in the time it takes EU4 to load a save.

>>725013023
gouda

>>725006128
do not google Timur

>get rid of the 0,4% jewish population living in Holland
>monthly income quadruples
What did Paradox mean by this

>>725012017
>Make bigger ship models exponentially more powerful by 4x instead of 2x
>Increase the stats, weapon mounts & cost of ships by a lot. A fleet of 10 ships should feel much more impactful than the vanilla 40.
>Give armour a flat base damage reduction from ballistics / missiles & the same for shields against energy weapons. That way you have a reason to actually rush armour tiers, as they will negate lower tier weapons.
>Add weapons that fire slower / have lower dps for more alpha strike & higher armour penetration
>Likewise add faster firing weapons that shoot multiple projectiles but are more easily countered by armour
>Give missiles even longer range and make them able to kite
>Make un-upgraded stations without planets instantly capture by default
>Make stations around planets have defenses that automatically scale with the system population
>Increase sensor range / make espionage full reveal enemy territory
>Re-add the original 3 FTL types by default
>Re-add having to choose your specialisation (energy, ballistics, missiles) at the start of the game
>Also add starting ship specialisations, so not every civ plays the exact same (i.e fast & cheap ship civ, slow & expensive ship civ). Possibly tie it in with FTL & weapon type

>>725013291
>Already in game
>Has special mechanics to represent his conquest
>Still not European (although he is based)

>>725013307
that would be pretty weird considering how reliant european rulers were on their court jews.

>>725013307
LMAO

>>725011074
yeah i found it ty, production automation is a different button

Holy shit Byzantium is just cock and ball torture levels of difficult
>Ruler dies the FIRST month
>Earthquake event fucks up the Hagia Sophia the next month, it's 1000 just to mitigate the effects slightly so lol fuck me
>Successor crisis event fires next month despite being a 5% chance
>Ottomans rising event just roflstomps my legitimacy and causes another revolt to start brewing
This is NOT kino, johan

How's playing in Australia? Is there actually something to do this time or is it the same waiting for European bvlls to make things interesting but now you have to wait a century longer?

>>725013407
This brings us back to Stellaris just can't work as standard paradox gsg, it needs to lean either into 4x angle or distance even more from direct control into something like Aurora and Stellar Monarch.

>>725013894
they were too op during e-celeb testing. wait for the dlc that makes them op again.

>>725013951
You can't play Australia. There's nothing

how's the colonization?

>>725014061
Ah
Maybe for the best so new players don't waste their time on it.

>>725001518
La Raya is undefeated

>>725013951
Don't waste your time on small countries in Asia, 1377 Asia is kinda shit; maybe Champa is worth it.

>>725013951
>>725014061
There's no start on Australia so you need to rush colonize it

>>725012113
If you can't freely pick year anymore do you think they might add specific set starting points later
Do you think they might let you do that without paying extra

>never played an EU game before
>start in Holland because the game reccommends it as a strong economy thing
>barely making 2 gold a month and to build anything you need like 40 minimum
>just before the 100 years war hits I get smallpoxd and lose a bunch of population
>now making -3 gold per month and I cant do anything because I have no money
the tutorial was a 30 minute long presentation slideshow and it didn't help me with shit
do I just restart or what

>>725014401
knowing paradox, it will cost extra.

>>725013894
pretty gay how the agia sophia and the theodosian walls are not on the map

>>725014475
Start minting money and take loans

>>725005329
>Unfortunately the other big source of lag is fleet pathfinding and movement and thats even worse in 4.0 if anything, thousands of ships in large galaxies makes performance chug, I wish they'd make all ships like 10x as expensive and just boost their fleet power to compensate, thats basically what the star trek spinoff did

The Stellaris dev team is completely brainless.
The game becomes shallow the moment you realize it’s just different flavors of amassing fleet-power — and nothing else. And the fleet combat itself is even worse. So you play a shallow clicker to increase fleet-power only to A-click your doomstack, or you lose because you don’t have enough fleet-power for the end-game crisis.

After 8 years of boring fleet bashing they only now realize the core fleet/ship system — the thing the whole game revolves around — is the biggest issue, after already butchering a perfectly fine planet/economy system. They should just accept reality and add a supply system to break the endless fleet-power growth loop. The second you can’t infinitely scale fleets the game collapses, which forces a real redesign: economy, pops, tech — everything.

Maybe then we’d finally get a game that isn’t just a military-industrial-complex simulator.

cabinet with 100 military stat...
I have no fucking money, maybe I will start taking loans, then beat up the lender with their money.

>>725013951
No tags present there. Closest is a single tag in Papua New Guinea.

Serious question, how do I play EUR without getting bored in 10 minutes?

Want to play more but it's 2 am.....

>>725014937
it's 11am though

>>725014015
Paradox's gsg's are actually at their strongest when they're played like an RTS.
Stellaris is unique in that it has a lot more 4x elements than their other gsg titles, given that everyone starts basically with a single system like in GalCiv or SotS.
If they leaned more into RTS elements, they could definitely make the post-exploration gameplay loop more interesting.

does creamapi work?

First reply whose last two digits add up to 9 chooses my next idea group. Your last chance before I finish this playthrough.

>age of renaissance ends before the renaissance reached its historical heights
?

>>725014864
Pick another country, preferably a strong one and mess around.
Or choose a country that you hate the most and ruined it cause you have no idea what to do.
Or refund

>Play any paradox game day 1
Thanks for beta testing, paypiggies. I vill enjoy it in 2 years after plenty dlcs are out
T. PirateCHAD

>>725013894
form several vassals from your large but useless land and you can vassal swarm ottomans easily
eu5 byz is literally easymode compared to eu4

>>725015256
economy

So... should I buy or wait? How long do you wager will it take for them to at least fix bugs and improve the AI?

>need to buy more ram to play my chud simulator
it's not fair

in retrospect do you think the ultimate edition is worth purchasing if you aren't going to pirate?
I don't want this game to turn into Imperator 2.0

>>725015406
>Giving up imperial lands
You're not a real chud

>>725015570
it's called delegating

>>724998164 (OP)
is this shit better than 4 or not

>>725015478
It'll take months. Dont expect them to change the AI before byzantium dlc at the earliest. At least april, may or june as it'll be in Q2

>>725015715
honestly it's not even in the same category as 4, it feels like a totally different game.

>>725015715
its more like vicky or some weird mishmash of vicky and ck than eu4

>>725015715
it's better in pretty much every way, makes 4 feel like a civ tier toddler game

>>725015715
Dependant what you like. 4 is more boardgamy with mana for everything. 5 is way more of a simulation which really goes in depth if you're into that.

Anyone know how this game runs on potatoes? My friend who I play multi with is still rocking his 2016 rig with a 970. Also would appreciate any tips for components specifically for eu5 I can probably get the penny-pincher to buy something used.

Has potential, but broken as shit right now.

How the fuck do I fabricate claims? I started as Yemen and conquered the small nation next to me, which for some reason, didn't even put up a fight? Like there was no war I just walked into their capital and took it in 12 days but it doesn't let me fabricate claims on anyone else

>>725016129
I tried to run it with my chudly 8 GB ram and yeah it wasn't going to happen

>>725015942
So they got rid of mana?
That automatically makes it better than EU4, but then it was always the worst of its grand strategy siblings.

>>725016334
legitimacy and stability are the new manas

Apologize for not believing in Johan

>>725016334
Yes they did and they brought back sliders from Vic 2 and older paradox games

>>725016404
true but at least those things exist conceptually in the real world vs imaginary diplo/admin/mil points

>>724998164 (OP)
No idea what I'm doing, having a blast. Feels like the Victoria 2 sequel we never got. As often as that retarded phrase 'return to form' gets thrown around, I am getting that old school paradox feeling.

>>725016541
what does "stability" mean?

>>725012817
People were hating it for the last half decade, it is interesting they listened to it now. Did they talk about why it is not there?

It gave an early review boost, which was perhaps their reasoning. I am betting 10$ the launcher will be coming back later after

Or maybe it was just buggy for eu5 and they didn't have time to fix it for the release

>>724998164 (OP)
I am surprised to not see a mostly negative on a newly released paradox game. What happened?

>>725016638
the game is actually good and only eu4 human trash are whining

>>725016673
For what reason this time?

>>725016719
they think having actual populations is scary and want their abstract baby shit mana and developement back

>>725016638
they noticed that they can no longer release unfinished mess and get away with it. considering how many failures they had last 5 years, they probably spent a bit more time on this one

>>725016759
>they can no longer release unfinished mess and get away with it
So the game doesn't need 2 years of dlc to be barely playable with minimum historical details?

>>725016719
no mission trees to tell them what to do

why does every ruler have a purple border instead of colours appropriate to their ranks?

Can I remove unwanted populations from my country?

the byzantine dlc better add 1444 as a start date

>>725016831
stop being so antisemitic

>>725016616
Something like happiness or contentment with your rule I guess. Try to pass a law and change status quo and people are gonna like you less as a king

>>725016754
>baby shit mana and developement
Ok fair never liked mana but what is the solution this time?

>>725016831
yes, I exterminated the roaches when I libertaed my lands from ottomans.
don't believe "b-but m-muh economy" retards because people will grow back over time and the economical damage by constant rebellions is far worse than just killing them all
EU5 is EXTREMELY chudmaxed and should be played as such

>>724998164 (OP)
what i want to know is this

do military casualties actually get subtracted from the population? if i lose 2000000 men, do i have 2000000 less population?
in hoi4, that garbage game, this is not the case, the actual population actually is not impacted, only "manpower" that is a separate modifier

>>725016831
Lol i bet they went for the "diversity is your strength" in 1500 europe.

>>725016831
Seems to be the case, yeah

>>725016913
sliders as the gods intended

what setting is making the UI blurry?

>>725016953
Yes if they're levies. They're mostly made of peasants who won't come back if they die and can impact your economy with too many losses.

>>725017002
Old age

>>725016953
yes your levies are taken directly from your population and if they die they fucking die

What about the battles? It's less retarded than usual? Do we have strategy this time? Or is the usual cannons murderball?

>>725007073
what kind of man dresses like this?
bro wears female clothing

>>725017064
most of your forces will be drafted peasant trash and you won't afford 9001k cannons in 1500 like in eu4

>>725016638
game works as advertised. only turdies with 20 year old pcs are bitching.

>gorillons of hours in EU4
>merely watching EU5 and I'm completely lost
at least that means the game isn't a rehash, I guess

>>725016882
Never.
>>725016939
>>725016972
Awesome. Thanks.
>>725016954
Wouldnt have surprised me the slightest to be honest.

>>725017183
This game is made for white people

Is the AI still trash? It's no fun not seeing the bigger countries forming or presenting any challenge.

>>725017275
anon its been out less than a day, they wont have fixed it yet

>>725017275
It is still a paradox game yes

>>725017107
Someone who doesn't give af because he's the most powerful person on earth

>>725007141
Different historical conditions created limitations.

how hard is the byzantine campaign?
also, recommend starts, haven't played EU since 3
does poortugal have any special content?

So I know there are no missions, but are there at least enough unique events that playing different countries feels different?

>>725017440
i think you can activate the missions?

>>725017398
byz is really easy if you know what you are doing
moortugal can get headstart on colonization

>>725004076
Don't forget to also paly the EU board game and study Swedish culture, so you can get into the mindset of the devs.

>Ottomans convert to Orthodoxy
Nice game Johan

>>725017398
fist dlc in q1 2026 is for byzantines, better to postpone the byzantine campaign

>>725004089
You don't even know what Ryukyu is, you smug retard.

>>725004320
Yeah, just like a horse is basically the Chinese wall.

>>725017628
...can you even imagine

maybe they should have pushed the starting date to just after the black death because it's going to get old really fucking fast

>>725005071
Yes, it is. That bait post about uniting 3 villages on an island doesn't change that.

>>725017628
do they at least get a new christian themed flag?

>>725017735
you can remove it from the options

>>725017735
they probably chose the date precisely to have the black death fuck you up

>>725017628
vhg the turko-roman empire...

>>725006181
Are you one of those government agents who pretend that "playing tall" is a real thing?

>>725004076
he's correct and you're a rude nigger, kill yourself

>>725017628
Why not? England will be muslim soon so anything can happen

>>725017791
that's pretty retarded desu, history where it didn't happen would be so unbelievably different the game can't really simulate it

>>725001665
dumb vatnigger

>utterly fuck up as the yuan
>just become ming and peace out
trust the plan.

>>725017889
you can also postpone it in the options or change its point of origin, that changes its spread

anyone played Japan yet?
can you make the jews fear the Samurai?

>>725017787
No lol

>>725001665
This is unironically the only iteration it's legit to call it like that. It will not help them win the war, they are losing, they will lose in a year.

>>725009443
when

>>725004320
doesn't look similar to me
it looks like ck3 shit

>>725018069
>front hasn't moved in 3 years
>but it will totally collapse in 1 year because I said so
you vatniggers are cute, you can't start wars with no economy big bakas

>>725009116
French birth rates began to decline significantly around 1750. The most likely explanation is a decline in religious sentiment among the population at that time, following the Wars of Religion. The French could be seen as 'frustrated Protestants,' which can be observed in the spread of various Jansenist movements (a kind of 'hidden' form of Protestantism) during the 17th and 18th centuries in France.

>>725018035
>orthodox
>female ruler

>>725018035
>Orthodoxy
>Liturgical language Arabic

Is Paradox retarded?

>>725015256
Diplomacy or Offensive.

>>725018151
>front hasn't moved
Russians conquered the territories they wanted in the first 2 months. What the fuck are you even on it? If that war was fought in europa universalis you already had a 3 at least to call it a victory.

>>725018223
Yo they just captured 182 blyat street, in 2 more weeks they'll have 184 blyat street too!!!!

>>725018223
you can't change the war goal in EU games after you started though and we all know where the original goal was

>>725018185
She's just the regent, in a society where male heirs killed eachother to gain rulership.

>>725018284
>we all know where the original goal was
The dumbass. And they conquered it. The american propaganda "they want to conquer europe it's just red alert 2!!! Go die for isr... i mean poland... no ukraine" it's not sticking anymore.

>>725018406
lol

>>725018127
To be honest I don't understand anything. I'm following the tutorial and it feels I would need to complete it few times at least.
It will takes ages to be actually able to express my own will via the interface. Not sure if I'm able to stick with this game that long.
I can still see it can be a comfy game...

>>725018167
This is the first time I ever heard about frog birth rates declining in 18th century but it's certainly interesting.
Did it happen to the rest of the continent or was it french on thing?

>>725018209
It's kind of retarded true, you would expect if Turks converted to Orthodoxy in the 14th century they would eventually just adopt Greek as their primary language after a few generations.

>>725018406
>thats why they made that genius """pincer""" movement from Belarus going straight at Kiev
>i-it was all a ruse a-actually

>>725018406
yeah that's why punya when starting the war said that he wants nato to leave eastern europe (while opposite happened) and change goverment in ukraine (which is still the same)

>Every second post is a shill post or praising it
What happened to the last conservative gaming bulwark /v/? Seems like zoomers and gen a are now taking over at last

>mission trees are all generic
well at least they exist, silly anons lying to me saying there were no mission trees

>>725018860
or maybe the game is actually good?
because it's the best paradox game since crusader kings 2 and absolutely mogs all the trash they have done recently

>>725018223
>Russians conquered the territories they wanted in the first 2 months
that is false, putin wanted to coup ukrop government, he failed badly, then abandoned all pro russian civies on liberated territories(and territories too) and then try to wage war with peace army and grind russian troops on fortified positions fighting against mostly force drafted russian speakers killing both
i am not sure if kremlin gov is just incompetent or plain traitorous and sabotage everything

why is the map so dark, are they afraid my eyes will go bad from looking at map too long

>>725018964
not available on iron-man mode though(which is the only way you should be playing this game)

>>725018490
try automating shit until you learn what they do

>>725019086
>play iron man
why?

Bros is it me or is Brandenburg unsalvagable
You get hit with a unique debuff (rapes Ur eco) into hundred years war (rapes Ur eco) into black plague (rapes your eco)

>>725019135
so you can't savescum obviously.
you will never get gud at the game if you just reroll until things go your way

first game's gonna be as vaginagar

>>725019168
everyone gets raped by something in early game, chudenburg is fine when you get out of the middle ages

>>725019203
I play the game as a historical visual novel not autism strategy sim, I'll redo when I like.

So what's the consensus?

>>725019086
>not available on iron-man mode
are you serious? Why would they lock missions out of Iron Man?

>>725019367
realistically, it saved Paradox

>>725018547
makes even less sense when most of their pops were greeks and spoke greek

>>725019290
he can always play baby universalis 4, it's was high time the series jumped in complexity a bit

>>725019407
Glad to hear it. I tend not to play their games for a few years after launch, but they've had stinker after stinker since stellaris so I was getting a little worried about them long term.

>>725001665
Imperator Rome is when they started with the redditor "BCE" shit, so it was to be expected. But it's a Paradox game, so you could fix it yourself with a simple .ini edit.

>DOW nation w/out CB
>Press raise levy button, no need to build an army beforehand
>Press full annexation button, no need to worry about admin mana

I'm missing something. Expanding can't be this fucking easy.

>>725019541
>all their recent games have been shit
>I'm glad that they're not going under so they can continue making garbage
How does one become a consoomer like this, tell me.

>>725019168
So we are going to see these "reeeeee plague reckt me" posts every day from now on

>>725019670
I want them to keep updating the game I like (stellaris), and since I enjoy the style of games they make, I hope they end up making some more good ones.

>>725007073
>I mean, France IS the main antagonist of the period
*protagonist

>>725019710
>liking Stellaris
Behold, the ultimate goyslopper.

>>725019779
Sorry for masturbating to aliens instead of incest s

>>725019764
Nothing but endless wars because muh biggest nation in Europe ain't 'nuff. The Russia of the renaissance, a french finger in every bloodbath.

>>725019710
stellaris is their worst game

>>725019820
I would play Stellaris to fap to ayys, but there are only like 4 porn images. Do you, like, imagine it? Or AI generate it?

>>725019168
brandy is supposed to suck ass in the medieval times, they're located in the bumfucks of germany

>>725019710
Stellaris is literal trash

>>725019290
>BUTTON AWESOME
Grim that there are gaymers like this.

>>724998164 (OP)
>Europa Univeraslis 5
>Univeraslis
Are they paying you to spam these posts? And if so, how much?

>>725020153
he must not be getting paid enough if he's making typos like that it

>>724998387
memes aside, this is a lore acurate depiction of all battles between Portugal and Castille irl

>CK3 with all the DLC
>EU5

Which one is the better game at this moment?

>>725020306
hoi4

>>725019648
Those territories u got will produce about 0 dollars for 50 years and you have to assign a cabinet member to integrate them. Better off vassalizing then diplo annexing if they are similar people
You wont have any control thus no income
Im playing novogrod and 3/4 of my land is 10 or less control that i owned originally

>>725018543
Only a french thing. The birth rate in other European countries began to decline with the Industrial Revolution a century later

>>725018543
they were most advanced nation

>>725020324
boring setting, too much combat

>>725020306
eu5

>>725020306
ck3 with mods

>>725020507
This is why the french revolution is so unusual. 99% of revolutions are carried by an overpopulation of young men, and while several spearheaded the reovlution it also involved shit like women and old people and working people.

Scotland has such a hard fucking start compared to EU4
>start in Civil War
>Regency where your ruler is underage AND evacuated to another country
>lands are super underdeveloped and your capital isn't even a town, so you need to upgrade it and build a building then fully staff it to even start producing ANY Manpower
>trying to fight without a real army is going to decimate your pops and set you back even further
>England will attack you before 1400 if the Hundred Years War is going well for them (just about the only aggressive AI I've seen so far)

>>725020920
problem?

>>725020306
ck3 rather gets worse with dlcs lately as paradox can't balance for shit

>>725020939
It told me "Hard start"
It didn't say "William Wallace being tortured at the end of Braveheart Hard"
Though I guess the difficulty is fun once I learn the systems well enough

>>725021036
Maybe now you understand why they pulled the red wedding in the 1440's to get rid of their enemies.

>>725020324
unironically looking too old

>take tax trade and building off automated
>whole country instantly death spirals
im such an idiot.

>>725021082
>look it up
>it's real
>but it's called black dinner
christ, brits are truly evil bloodthirsty monsters

>>725020306
ck3 is actually pretty fun as a sims game
eu5 is just victoria autism
funny the dumped vic 3 to release this

>>725021171
You don't even wanna know. There's a reason any european would trust a snake before they trust a brit. At least they own up to it, wear it like a badge, none of that pussyfootying around you see nowadays in badboy nations.

>no dlc only pirate
fuck I don't want to buy premium edition or whatever

>>725021171
That stuff is like… Tuesday in China though

>>725021453
chinese evil is more opportunistic, there's a lot of malice involved in british evil

>>725021131
You are the reason that paradox is adding this "modern" mobile looking UI

>>725019383
they're not real missions like eu4, they're basically just freeform tutorial pointers to teach people how to play the game

>>725021532
>Empress Lü Zhi then had Concubine Qi killed in an inhumane manner: she had Qi's hands and feet chopped off, eyes gouged out, ears burned, nose sliced off, tongue cut out, forced her to drink a potion that made her mute, and had her thrown into a latrine. She called Qi a "human swine" (人彘). Several days later, Emperor Hui was taken to view the "human swine" and was shocked to learn that it was Concubine Qi. He cried loudly and became ill for a long time. He requested to see his mother and said, "This is something done not by a human. As the empress dowager's son, I'll never be able to rule the empire." From then on, Emperor Hui indulged himself in carnal pleasures and ignored state affairs, leaving all of them to his mother, and this caused power to fall completely into her hands.

>>725001665
Should have won the battle intead of showing the world you're a failed superpower Ivan.

>try to sleep
>Have horrible demonic dreams
>Wake up drooling and covered in sweat
A-alright johan I guess I'll just keep playing...

>>725018223
>Russians conquered the territories they wanted in the first 2 months
lol no they didn't. They don't even have all of Luhansk yet. They also want the rest of Kherson, and that's basically impossible with the river between them.

>>725022032
Stay hydrated, drink 2-3 extra glasses

>>725021581
well, you're welcome

>>725021720
Bugmen have no soul.

>>725021714
gay

I just tried Vic3 and refunded it, I think this is too abstract for me. In CK3 I at least have an idea what Im doing while running my dynasty into the ground

>>725022345
yea and turning them on disables ironman too so johan doesnt even want you playing with them XD

>>725022408
they'll probably sell them as a DLC per country like the jews they are

>>724998164 (OP)
first 2 hours or so were really overwhelming but after i figured out why i was bleeding money and sea control i started to get the game
i also intervened in an early war (morocco vs tlemcen) so i could learn how war goes safely
didn't get to play much though but i liked what i saw, had some weird bugs with troop movement between pauses though

>>725022390
How would you feel if you did not have breakfast this morning?

>>725006649
aragon was so based for that

It took me an hour to figure out as novogrod wtf was going on with regency.
What an odd mechanic. You basically appoint a foreign prince and then your a lesser partner. When he dies you then invite another prince. I see you can change to a different Republic type either an oligarchic republic or doge republic but idk what one is better

So what do you actually "do" in this game?

>>725022865
you distract yourself from the horrors of reality

>>725022865
if you are an autist (compliment): you larp your nation building, make nice borders, maybe a formable, make loads pf money, have fun
if you are an autist (derogatory) you blob like a complete nigger, minmax everything and border gore the map until you conquer the world
if you are a failed normalfag: you play MP (it probably doesn't works)

>>725022596
I never eat breakfast
So normal

>>725022717
Oligarchy is rulership by an elite group of old wealthy dude, pretty sure Doge has them select the greatest of the old wealthy dudes to lead the group

Can someone buy me this plss
T. Foid

>play as ottoman for a few hours to understand what has changed
>change to irrelevant german prince
>send out a spy and discovers that I can't fabricate claim
what now, how do I get the ball start rolling?

>>725023674
Get CB via parliament

>No launcher anymore
how's the dlc pirating now?

>>724998164 (OP)
>What's your impresion of the game?
I didn't play it but it's shit

how do you make money with trade? i 5x my original trade capacity but i'm somehow earning almost nothing. is it because the merchant house uses stuff and the price of it is too high and not available or whatever?

>>725023838
Buy them

>>725023762
thanks

>>725023881
are you trading stuff manually?

>>725023943
it's eu4, ck3 and vic2 actually

>>725023943
>CK3
i honestly cannot see the ck3 in this game, someone give me a qrd on where to find it.

>>725020948
what do you mean anon, living to 200s is pretty balanced

>>725024004
character portraits and traits
that's it

So do eastern euros have their own clothing style? Is everyone still permastuck in renaissance?

was automation a mistake? every other retard is calling the game simple and barebones and every time without fail it's because they enabled automation in 90% of things

>>725023881
https://youtu.be/75PVBnq5JMw?si=irxBUVxG28S6Y0of

>>725024112
lol

>>725024178
economy from vic was a mistake

>>724998164 (OP)
My main gameplay in EU4 was integrating every nation possible into the HRE
Is this possible in 5? Can I revoke privilegia to become master of the world? (just vassals though i dont care to become one nation)

where do I see estate buildings?

>>725024338
I havent seen anyone doing world conquest, yet

>>725018547
Not necessarily. Otho Slavs have used old Slavic since conversion if I remember correctly.

>>725024338
Wouldn't vassalizing the entire HRE make you go way over your diplo capacity?

>>725024428
in 4 it wasnt a problem if they are part of HRE

How tf do I get a surplus on the market? It says it's at 0.00 for both things needed to make paper

>>724998164 (OP)
Why the fuck would you play a paradox game within 4 months of launch day?

>>725024743
why not when you can get it for free

>>725004734
I bet his roads are 50 years more advanced than yours

>>725024892
because it is riddled with bugs

>>725024031
it really needs a complete artifact overhaul, they should give some symbolic bonuses at most
But personally I'm mostly mad about nomads

>>725024420
Old Slavic was created by Byzantine missionaries to help the Slavic people understand scripture and for them to have a standardized liturgical language of their own. Greek however was still the primary language of Anatolia at that time and Turks could have easily adopted it.

>>725025062
I mean whole game is really falling apart at the seams nowadays, I wasn't even thinking about artifacts but legends

>>725018069
first the ultra cope cage now the copes.

>>725001665
Unironically speaking why didnt putin just save scum the battles until he got good rolls?

>>725025950
why would he, he has unlimited manpower and the landed bankers profit from the war going on

>>725025950
he was live streaming and his chat was calling him a bitch so he couldnt

>>725014475
Why even buy the game if you haven't got a clue about how any of the systems work, let alone how an EU game works?

>>725026086
not like knowing how EU game works would help him in eu5

>>725026086
what a dumb fucking thing to say 'why'd you try to learn how to ski? You don't even know how to ski in the first place!'

>>725025995
But anon he's missing out on his op mission tree
>>725026084
Okay that makes a bit more sense

>>725026196
>But anon he's missing out on his op mission tree
sorry anon, banker's mission tree is more important

>>725025950
why doesn't he just deploy war crime tactics and turn the cities in his path to dust? there is a little semitic country in the levant that does it and nobody seems to care.

>>725026157
Before you start skiing, chances are you you'd look I to what gear you need, techniques, dangers and other things, just like getting into anything. You check things. You're brown though, so the concept of foresight and planning to you is like the concept of morality and God to a penguin.

>>724998387
based tuga bro

>>725026265
the allies did this to Germany and parts of France btw in ww2 and then they all pat themselves on the back for a job well done.

>>725020306
EU5 unironically

Hungary is the best nation, youve got 4 gold mines and instant PUs with like 4 nations

>>725026396
so before you play literally any game you research how all the systems work before even hitting new game? Lmao okay anon keep calling me 'brown' if it makes you feel better you're an aryan chad I won't argue with you

>>725026478
You should try being on the good team next time

do location satisfaction modifiers not disappear? I'm stuck in perma insurgency even though I keep defeating them every few decades

>>725026550
I get a vague idea of what to expect and what to do, how it works etc. before buying anything. I think that's called common sense.

>>725019290
>I've played this hyper compelx new game for 2 hours and I don't understand everything yet
I guess.

>>725026427
It's actually so hard to play them now, they were tutorial tier in 4 but in 5 it's objective: survive

>>725024004
>>725024112
Are you pretending to be retarded? If so you should consider making a career out of it.

>>725024743
There is no real difference between buying the game now and buying it in 4 months, other that you don't have the game for those 4 months.

>trebizond starts out with the capability to raise 24 boats
>once you disband them you don't have the stockpile to make them again
make a wharf and naval supply guild asap or you'll be stuck in a war for 2 years against circassian tribals

>>725027336
Trying to please your Tencent masters, Johan?

>>725027336
the + signs in their private github repository that fix 10 bugs and add 30 more

Finally the game is playable.

>play economy "tutorial"
>don't really understand it
>play military "tutorial"
>nothing gets explained
I DON'T GET THIS STUPID GAME

>>725028487
just turn on the automation and forget about it

if people are getting filtered now imagine in 5 years after they add a whole bunch of more mechanics to the game lol

>only place in europe with gold is prague and everyone wants it
aaaaaa

>>725028487
Pretty sure the intended experience is bashing your head against the map while listening to Pain is Salvation on full volume.