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Anonymous No.725013981 [Report] >>725014038 >>725014156 >>725014753 >>725015106 >>725015680 >>725017836 >>725021238 >>725021290 >>725021354 >>725022235 >>725023520 >>725024359 >>725025051 >>725026625 >>725029051 >>725034025 >>725036186 >>725043847 >>725044774
>homophobic
>racist
>arrogant
>disposition ranges form passive aggressive to outright genocidal
>reckless
>dimwitted

She deserved death.
Anonymous No.725014038 [Report] >>725014109 >>725015518
>>725013981 (OP)
Tranny thread.
Anonymous No.725014063 [Report]
It's okay to be racist
Anonymous No.725014109 [Report] >>725014753 >>725014803 >>725017993
>>725014038
She. Deserved. Death. GMS was based and correct. Crawfather was based and correct. Weavers are abominations and deserve total eradication.
Anonymous No.725014156 [Report] >>725014245 >>725014956 >>725015275
>>725013981 (OP)
>troons still try to desperately shill this feminist, gynocentric goyslop as something le based and redpilled
Anonymous No.725014245 [Report] >>725015275
>>725014156
yeah that's retarded

I like the game but it's obviously tumblrcore, barely less than troonvaganza celeste
Anonymous No.725014342 [Report] >>725014474
>dimwitted
She figured out how to make automations from smashing insect shells with her bare claws
Anonymous No.725014474 [Report] >>725022546
>>725014342
Do we ever see Hornet make anything herself? No. She likely trots off to Flick in Bone Bottom with her tail between her legs.

She is an idiot. She constantly fails to ask important questions, instead charging through Pharloom like a little pest killing innocents, upsetting the natural order, and ultimately dooming the entire kingdom while (falsely) professing her urge to save it. Despite being old she acts like a arrogant little girl.
Anonymous No.725014678 [Report]
sounds like my kind of girl
Anonymous No.725014753 [Report]
>>725013981 (OP)
>>725014109
Ok but have you considered the Pale King genes outweight all of that.
Anonymous No.725014803 [Report] >>725015029
>>725014109
Fuck off with your anti-semetic garbage
Anonymous No.725014956 [Report] >>725031176
>>725014156
4chan is woke now we like ts foolish nigger.
Anonymous No.725015029 [Report]
>>725014803
Sorry I don't worship Moloch that means nothing to me
Anonymous No.725015106 [Report] >>725015317
>>725013981 (OP)
Yet she had an abortions ?!?
Anonymous No.725015275 [Report] >>725015347 >>725033489
>>725014156
>>725014245
Redditroons are crying about its difficulty to this day. You canonically cannot beat the game with estrogenized reaction times
Anonymous No.725015317 [Report] >>725016552
>>725015106
Not quite. She was implanted with an arboreal parasite, and then, rather than having it outright removed via an experimental surgery, she subsumed the parasite into her body, gaining its strength. I don't believe we have any real life parallel. It's closer to getting pregnant via rape, having an abortion, and then eating the baby. Which is very, very based... all agree.
Anonymous No.725015347 [Report] >>725017470
>>725015275
troons are often speedrunners the fuck are you even blabbering about
Anonymous No.725015518 [Report] >>725016521
>>725014038
Trannies have good taste in games. The reason /v/ constantly calls one another trannies is because they have a common psychology. Both autistic, socially inept, self-hating, unemployed, and addicted to porn.
Anonymous No.725015554 [Report]
I haven’t seen a single normal white person play silk song and it’s been only trannies
Anonymous No.725015624 [Report]
>trannies giving life advice in this thread when they have a mental illness thinking they are the opposite sex much like someone thinking they’re black when white
Anonymous No.725015680 [Report] >>725016917
>>725013981 (OP)
Anonymous No.725016435 [Report]
>play silly bugs game
>immersion shattered when I see "they" used to refer to a singular individual
Anonymous No.725016521 [Report] >>725032398
>>725015518
Truth nuclear bomb. Chuds are horrified by trannies because they see themselves staring back at them.
Anonymous No.725016552 [Report] >>725026868
>>725015317
Thinking about it it's pretty fucked up how she just outright couldn't get rid of the parasite in her body it just dealt enough damage that it sent it into a passive state. If it was any other insect they would have been immediately killed by the parasite or killed by the "surgery"
Anonymous No.725016917 [Report] >>725017250 >>725017382
>>725015680
Anyone wanting to have sex with those women would likely immediately get raped and emasculated.
Anonymous No.725017250 [Report] >>725022841
>>725016917
I'm around one million times more massive than all of them combined so no that wouldn't be the case.
Anonymous No.725017382 [Report]
>>725016917
>emasculated.
only a word sissies use
Anonymous No.725017470 [Report] >>725017979 >>725020341 >>725021525 >>725023602 >>725024929 >>725031551 >>725045487
>>725015347
Full disclosure, I was groomed to be trans but recently when I turned 30 I woke the fuck up. Groomed by this rotten society, not anyone in particular. Anyway, I'm back in Church, lifting again and trying to fix my ruined body.
Anonymous No.725017836 [Report] >>725040619
>>725013981 (OP)
Her life is in my hands (colorized)
Anonymous No.725017979 [Report]
>>725017470
Quasi-troon to faux-Christian, many such cases. Beware of playing dress up with medication and ideology. Ultimately you must reconcile with your own base nature.
Anonymous No.725017993 [Report] >>725020272
>>725014109
>t.
Anonymous No.725020272 [Report] >>725020397
>>725017993
I would do anything for she.
Anonymous No.725020341 [Report]
>>725017470
good for you if it's true
Anonymous No.725020397 [Report] >>725020574
>>725020272
look at the size of her brapanada
Anonymous No.725020574 [Report]
>>725020397
Damn I'd like to have a deep conversation in fluent Brapanese with that bunda
Anonymous No.725021096 [Report]
why does this game run better than fucking HK? did they finally learn how to use unity?
Anonymous No.725021238 [Report] >>725021570
>>725013981 (OP)
what the real purpose of this thread?
is this bug eligible for ms. /v/ or whatever?
Anonymous No.725021290 [Report] >>725021570
>>725013981 (OP)
Did you just spoil a recently released game in the OP?
Anonymous No.725021354 [Report] >>725021517 >>725021689 >>725022141
>>725013981 (OP)
>homophobic
nuh-uh
Anonymous No.725021517 [Report] >>725021558
>>725021354
>tranny artist
Anonymous No.725021525 [Report] >>725023653
>>725017470
You would be happier if you had transitioned RIP
Anonymous No.725021558 [Report] >>725021643 >>725021689
>>725021517
>tranny poster
Anonymous No.725021570 [Report] >>725022002
>>725021238
Raising funds for Hornet's public execution.

>>725021290
Sorry I didn't read the subreddit rules. Feel free to email me.
Anonymous No.725021643 [Report] >>725021696
>>725021558
You need to dilate and take your troon headcanons with it.
Anonymous No.725021689 [Report]
>>725021558
Refer to >>725021354
Anonymous No.725021696 [Report] >>725021760
>>725021643
>tranny tranny tranny tranny
just come out to your parents and friends already, it's not a big deal, they won't judge you too much
Anonymous No.725021760 [Report] >>725021805 >>725021860
>>725021696
>posts tumblr nonsense which are perpetuated by trannies
>d-don't call me that!
No, dilate.
Anonymous No.725021773 [Report] >>725025091 >>725029519 >>725040619
she's hot so all is forgiven
Anonymous No.725021805 [Report] >>725021831
>>725021760
are you the guy that got groomed by society? you should go full trans and suck pp
Anonymous No.725021831 [Report]
>>725021805
Tumblrtrannies are.
Anonymous No.725021860 [Report] >>725021923 >>725021960 >>725023820
>>725021760
>no one talks about trannies
>starts sperging out about trannies
You're literally just like Chris-chan, people used to tease him about gays and stuff because every single time he would throw a tantrum about the "homogays" and "I'm straight dammit". And you know what? Now he identifies as a trans lesbian.
Anonymous No.725021923 [Report] >>725021975 >>725022017
>>725021860
Your fanfics have nothing to do with what's canon tranny. Your kind has been pushing this for years now and it doesn't work.
Anonymous No.725021960 [Report] >>725022214
>>725021860
>say something a tranny would say
>get called a tranny in response
Dunno chief
Anonymous No.725021975 [Report] >>725022013
>>725021923
No sane person thinks about trannies 24/7, you'll have to accept yourself sooner or later, your egg is cracking like mad.
Anonymous No.725022002 [Report] >>725022117
>>725021570
>Sorry I didn't read the subreddit rules. Feel free to email me.
I want your face to crash into my fist at moderate to high speed
Anonymous No.725022013 [Report] >>725022071
>>725021975
>thinks about
See one, call one, I saw one, I called one. Shouldn't have posted tranny nonsense which is pushed by mentally ill freaks.
Anonymous No.725022015 [Report] >>725022406 >>725023510 >>725032089
Enough bickering. We're here to discuss the final extermination of the Weavers. And potentially Trobbio, pending a vote.
Anonymous No.725022017 [Report] >>725022065
>>725021923
you gotta transition fully now or you'll regret it later sis.
Anonymous No.725022065 [Report]
>>725022017
Tumblrtrannies are doing that all the time. some of them probably killed themselves since their ship didn't become canon.
Anonymous No.725022071 [Report] >>725022102
>>725022013
But that's the thing, everything you see is "tranny nonsense" because you can't stop thinking about trans people because you clearly aren't happy with your assigned gender.
Anonymous No.725022102 [Report] >>725022167
>>725022071
>everything you see
Projection. You posted troon headcanon and got called out for it, and now you're crying about that.
Anonymous No.725022117 [Report]
>>725022002
Jannies, rape this anon with a petrol pump, set him on fire until his eyes burn out, keep him alive on life support until his family wealth is totally depleted, rape him again, then ban him.
Anonymous No.725022141 [Report]
>>725021354
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zd8vzIRQLLM
Anonymous No.725022161 [Report] >>725022218 >>725022241 >>725022318 >>725023114 >>725023910 >>725027175 >>725029240
>ctrl f tran
>30 results
Anonymous No.725022167 [Report] >>725022219
>>725022102
What fucking "troon headcannon", what the fuck are you even talking about you autismo
Anonymous No.725022214 [Report] >>725022259
>>725021960
>say something a tranny would say
>t. tranny expert
You're obsessed.
Anonymous No.725022218 [Report] >>725025241 >>725025447
>>725022161
Every popular game has a schizo on /v/. It's just like the Tencent guy in BG3 threads.
Anonymous No.725022219 [Report]
>>725022167
>he can't even read xis post
Go back to what you posted troon.
Anonymous No.725022235 [Report]
>>725013981 (OP)
> There could be grasshopper faggots here. I hate grasshopper faggots.
Anonymous No.725022241 [Report]
>>725022161
It's a wonderland for Freudians. The amount of sexual suppression is astounding.
Anonymous No.725022259 [Report]
>>725022214
Tumblr and Reddit (tranny heavens) push that ship so...
Anonymous No.725022318 [Report]
>>725022161
I wonder why
Anonymous No.725022406 [Report] >>725022538
>>725022015
Seems like they recused themselves from power and have accepted exile. Unless you want to go hunting for them.
Anonymous No.725022538 [Report] >>725022926
>>725022406
Accepted exile? They instituted a dystopian regime built upon a lie and then fled. Their crimes outnumber the stars. They deserve punishment of a mythological proportion, and Hornet's extermination is part of that.
Anonymous No.725022546 [Report] >>725022643
>>725014474
she literally makes the best version of the silkshot gun in mount fay. but you didn't play the game of course
Anonymous No.725022643 [Report] >>725022724 >>725032657
>>725022546
Hornet does plenty of things off-screen. She pees, poos, eats, charts her map, writers in her journal, disassembles rosary chains, and sleeps. I believe she (being an arrogant idiot) also minces to the nearest capable bug to mend and make her tools. At Mount Fay that would be the Mask Maker. I may not be certain, but you cannot prove me wrong, and that is enough.
Anonymous No.725022724 [Report]
>>725022643
he makes masks, not guns. there, i proved you wrong.
Anonymous No.725022841 [Report]
>>725017250
Luckily Team Cherry confirmed they're as large as humans since the pairing would be impossible otherwise.
Anonymous No.725022926 [Report] >>725023384
>>725022538
But Hornet is a daughter of hollownest. She's not party to the crimes of Pharloom
Anonymous No.725023114 [Report]
>>725022161
Remember to give thanks to tumblr for being the final nail in the coffin.
Anonymous No.725023384 [Report]
>>725022926
Killing her at a young age would've been a wise pre-emptive strike against her inevitable malevolent nature. Her actions in Pharloom only prove GMS right.
Anonymous No.725023510 [Report]
>>725022015
hands off trobbio
Anonymous No.725023520 [Report]
>>725013981 (OP)
Fuck mantises
Fuck gay mantises
Fuck flies
Fuck those peasants
Fuck Pharloon
Fuck planning
Fuck thinking
I'm just going to spam thread storm till you die.
Anonymous No.725023602 [Report]
>>725017470
Godspeed anon, you're on the right path.
Anonymous No.725023653 [Report] >>725023739
>>725021525
>knows nothing about that anon
>"You'd be happier if you transitioned!"
the grooming urge is just a fucking reflex with you freaks, isn't it?
Anonymous No.725023739 [Report] >>725023919 >>725032505
>>725023653
he will never be happy with his own body, his agp will come back sooner or later and will hurt him more
Anonymous No.725023820 [Report]
>>725021860
>he would throw a tantrum about the "homogays" and "I'm straight dammit". And you know what? Now he identifies as a trans lesbian
That's straight though
Anonymous No.725023910 [Report]
>>725022161
Genuine gemmy thread
Anonymous No.725023919 [Report]
>>725023739
AGP is a fetish. Fetishes don't have to be indulged.
He rejected you sick fucks and will be much happier for it.
Anonymous No.725024359 [Report] >>725025117
>>725013981 (OP)
>homophobic
based
>racist
based
>arrogant
Not really. She's confident and can back that confidence up.
>disposition ranges form passive aggressive to outright genocidal
She isn't either of these.
>reckless
>dimwitted
I'm beginning to think you didn't play the game.
Anonymous No.725024761 [Report]
The Pale King (straight white male) remains the best ruler among higher beings that we've met so far. How exactly is this game trooncore again?
Anonymous No.725024929 [Report]
>>725017470
Anonymous No.725025051 [Report] >>725025087 >>725025104 >>725025362
>>725013981 (OP)
She literally isn't any of these things, please try playing the game next time.
Anonymous No.725025087 [Report]
>>725025051
I played it but skipped all the dialog.
Anonymous No.725025091 [Report]
>>725021773
kys gooner
Anonymous No.725025104 [Report]
>>725025051
b-but anon, this game is heckin based and redpilled...
Anonymous No.725025117 [Report] >>725028974 >>725045693
>>725024359
If you think that the game's story beats weren't singlehandedly propelled by Hornet being a reckless midwit you are functionally illiterate.
Anonymous No.725025241 [Report]
>>725022218
Him embarrassing himself in that Witcher thread is still so fucking funny
Anonymous No.725025362 [Report] >>725025845 >>725029184
>>725025051
This is very apparently a shitposting thread. Given how brutal Pharloom is even before everything went to shit, Hornet is relatively chill. Especially compared to how she was in Hollownest where she tells The Knight that she does not care about killing the weak.
Anonymous No.725025447 [Report] >>725051194
>>725022218
ACfag is the worst schizo I've seen. Over ten fucking years doing everything in his power to ruin every Metroid thread he sees with no discernible downtime. How does he seem to hang out on /v/ for 24 hours for actual years?
Anonymous No.725025845 [Report] >>725026297 >>725027207
>>725025362
Hornet finds herself within a Kingdom very obviously in the thrall of a God, and proceeds to slaughter every single victim she comes across. The people of Pharloom are, for lack of a better word, possessed, and deserve sympathy and release. You understand? Even when she finally, after much bug blood and hardwon toil, achieves an audience with GILF, she proceeds to IMMEDIATELY scream a war cry / slur (it seems both at once) and begin wailing on her. GILF only just woke up, mind you, which is far from honorable conditions for a duel. She didn't even attempt to communicate with GILF, or to assure her that she wasn't a secret assassin trained by the Weavers to kill GILF. They might have even reached something approaching familial affection! Instead Hornet, being the insectoid equivalent of a violent cheerleader, proceeds to pull out her weapon and make the whole situation infinitely worse.
Anonymous No.725026297 [Report] >>725026494
>>725025845
Pale Beings don't negotiate. You kneel or you die. That's just the way they are. Hornet was raised in Deepnest though so she learned different
Anonymous No.725026472 [Report]
apologize.
Anonymous No.725026494 [Report] >>725026792
>>725026297
Obviously not the way they are when the PALE KING and WHITE LADY and HORNET HERSELF exist.... little nigga. GMS is a frumpy old MILF, yes, but she is absolutely a victim after being ROOFIED for 1000 years by her massive bitch quasi-daughters (who she gave the priceless gift to sapience to btw)
Anonymous No.725026541 [Report] >>725026649 >>725026663
>Passively generates rosries and shards while you play
How useful is the Crawbell?
Anonymous No.725026625 [Report]
>>725013981 (OP)
Maybe it isn't overrated normie slop after all...
Anonymous No.725026649 [Report] >>725026856 >>725026991
>>725026541
Given way too fucking late to be useful. A common issue with this game. The devs were incredibly stingy with loot. The game fucking hates extrinsic motivations.
Anonymous No.725026663 [Report] >>725026856 >>725026991
>>725026541
It appears way too late in the game to be useful.
Anonymous No.725026792 [Report] >>725027073
>>725026494
>...Their voices... Their song...
>...Their memory...
>...Bind their shells...
>...Bind their souls...
>...Bind them all...
>...Raise them... Up...
>...To devote... Eternal...
>...One mind... One union...
>...They are ours... Bound forever...

What's your policy on being an eternal mind slave of a cantankerous god who demands eternal worship? Because no one other than the Pilgrims are into that
Anonymous No.725026856 [Report]
>>725026649
>>725026663
Agreed. By the time you have it, you already have everything or nearly everything Rosaries could possibly give you
Anonymous No.725026868 [Report]
>>725016552
>"surgery"
You just don't understand the elegance of the "Bugfucker 2000"
Anonymous No.725026991 [Report] >>725027117 >>725027183
>>725026649
>>725026663
What about buying shard packs to use on bosses?
Anonymous No.725027073 [Report] >>725027194
>>725026792
They should consider themselves BLESSED to even for a MOMENT BASK in the INFINITE BEAUTY OF SUPERIOR MILK MOTHER SILK you CRETIN. She is the GOD OF SILK AND SEX.. an ETERNITY SPENT PART OF HER IN DUAL WORSHIP AND CONGREGATION IS NOT A CURSE BUT RATHER A LIVING PARADISE.. HORNET WAS A VILLAIN FOR CEASING THE PILGRIMS BEAUTIFUL, SEXY GOD-DREAM..
Anonymous No.725027117 [Report]
>>725026991
Unless you blitz your way to Crawdaddy, you don't have too many bosses left by the time you get it. I think by the time I got it, the only named enemy I had left was Watcher at the Edge
Anonymous No.725027175 [Report]
>>725022161
that number seems excessively low
Anonymous No.725027183 [Report]
>>725026991
I don't use tools lil bro.
Anonymous No.725027194 [Report] >>725027296 >>725027386
>>725027073
>GOD OF SILK AND SEX
Where are her children? Does everyone die before she's satisfied? Can anyone other than another Pale Being do it?
Anonymous No.725027207 [Report]
>>725025845
Domination or destruction, friend. Domination or destruction.
Anonymous No.725027296 [Report]
>>725027194
She would need to assume a lesser form like the Pale King did.

You are, however, welcome to behold her glory and masturbate.
Anonymous No.725027386 [Report] >>725027594
>>725027194
It's true.. she should've hired the Pale King for a continuous month of divine babymaking.. perhaps she was shy.. just waiting for the right guy to come along, you know.. letting life take its course.. taking a little nap... before that little bitch in a red dress showed up and ruined EVERYTHING..
Anonymous No.725027594 [Report] >>725027952
>>725027386
>HEY! THE PALE KING IS MINE YOU VAPID BITCH!
Anonymous No.725027902 [Report] >>725028289 >>725029550
>mfw missed the Garmond and Zaza fight
So I just have a permanent empty spot in my Hunter's Journal now? I'm just fucked?
Anonymous No.725027952 [Report] >>725028156
>>725027594
Pff.. don't me laugh.. everyone knows you fled Pharloom because the people called you Herrah the Fat Fucking Beast. The Pale King doesn't like fat bugs, you little idiot. Never forget: I made you.
Anonymous No.725028004 [Report] >>725028076
It's cuter and ultimately better if you visualize that the world of Hollow Knight passes in actual bugs scale. All those small characters in their little adventures.
Anonymous No.725028076 [Report] >>725028213
>>725028004
That's what I do. All that shit with the Radiance? Just a firefly in my backyard
Anonymous No.725028156 [Report] >>725028346 >>725028483
>>725027952
>THE PALE KING AND I HAVE SOMETHING SPECIAL. IT'S SOMETHING YOU COULD NEVER UNDERSTAND
Anonymous No.725028213 [Report]
>>725028076
Based small world enjoyer.
Anonymous No.725028225 [Report] >>725028613 >>725028672
What did Grandmother Silk want from Weaver descendants?
Was it just to wake up?
Why'd she fight hornet if it's just that?
Anonymous No.725028289 [Report]
>>725027902
it not needed for the hunters memento
Anonymous No.725028346 [Report] >>725028409
>>725028156
And weavers have low fertility rate too so copulation must had been done long and quite often.
Anonymous No.725028409 [Report] >>725028739
>>725028346
>weavers have low fertility rate too
nothing suggests this
Anonymous No.725028483 [Report]
>>725028156
Have you ever wondered, Herrah, why exactly you are so fat, and your sisters so thin? Yes, you have. Of course you have. It's because while I made your sisters from little spiders, I made you from a old muffin that I found in the kitchen! It was too big to be served at breakfast, so it was placed on the countertop, and it fell behind and was forgotten. Just like you, Herrah: too big to fit in, and so easily forgotten. And now that you know, do you really think the charming Pale King would ever fuck a (barely) sapient muffin?
Anonymous No.725028613 [Report] >>725028823 >>725029579
>>725028225
Turns out the deleted ending explains that. Throughout the game, Hornet can bind the corpses of the Weavers who returned to Pharloom and attain their power. Well in the deleted ending that was datamined, we see Grand Mother Silk bind Hornet rather than the other way around.

https://youtu.be/H0gWOVrdGEg?si=Ec5Om6Z1bpdRsuZK

While she's shrouded in shadow, we see Grand Mother Silk with the mask of a Pale Wyrm. She's taken Hornet's Wyrm half and adopted her power into her own. And her Silk spreads all the way down to Bone Bottom where even bugs that could avoid the Haunting are enthralled by her
Anonymous No.725028672 [Report] >>725029128
>>725028225
>Why'd she fight hornet if it's just that?
Silk Mum is NOT a morning person. If Hornet had just been a bit more considerate and brought her a much-needed coffee, that whole debacle could have been avoided.
Anonymous No.725028739 [Report] >>725028939 >>725035229
>>725028409
Eva expressly says that Weaver reproduction is painful to the point of being nigh impossible

>Hornet: How did you come to be sealed here, Eva?

>Eva: Lady, you mistake. What seems a cage is as much my shell as the form inside. I was born within this space. To leave would be my death, an uninspired end, though one I've sometimes wished would come. I am unique, you see. My mothers shared the curse of their tribe, to conceive a child is a painful, near impossible task.
Anonymous No.725028823 [Report] >>725029143
>>725028613
that would make sense, if she's retrieving the power she vested in weavers
Anonymous No.725028926 [Report] >>725029118
Your sibling reigns over the most dangerous substance of Bug Kind and is the most powerful Higher Being alive RN.

Based nepotism. But The Knight did deserve it's ascension and Godhood.

The one case where the character is owed divinity.
Anonymous No.725028939 [Report]
>>725028739
I see, that part went over my head, I only remembered that Eva was a failed experiment.
Anonymous No.725028974 [Report] >>725029182 >>725029246 >>725049863
>>725025117
How is it reckless to investigate and take down the people who kidnapped you, knowing that they'll probably try again?
The only thing she does that counts as reckless is the event leading to Act 3. You could say it's reckless to use the trap without properly looking into the people who set it up, but on the other hand it would have worked if Lace didn't get caught too. And it's not like leaving GMS in control was a good option either.
Anonymous No.725029049 [Report]
>mfw fighting Krust King Khan
Damn that was fun as fuck, more like that please.
Anonymous No.725029051 [Report]
>>725013981 (OP)
>>homophobic
>>racist
>>arrogant
>>disposition ranges form passive aggressive to outright genocidal
>>reckless
make
>>dimwitted
redundant.
Anonymous No.725029118 [Report] >>725029196
>>725028926
Does Hornet get special privileges because the Knight is a siscon?
Anonymous No.725029128 [Report] >>725029383 >>725029485
>>725028672
You're being cheeky but Hornet is one hundred percent in the wrong. We only ever see evidence of GMS' sadness at her children's betrayal. The Haunting is her trying to wake but she never expresses anything like the rage or bloodlust that Radiance does at her imprisonment.

What we do see is that GMS raised up the bugs of Pharloom exactly like the Pale King claimed to have for Hallownest, have her favorite children free will and they used that gift to trap and usurp her.

Hornet contains the worst aspect of Wyrm and Weaver, so she only perceived GMS as a threat rather than the despairing, spurned maternal figure that she was.
Anonymous No.725029143 [Report] >>725029383 >>725029459 >>725029485 >>725029625 >>725039801
>>725028823
We know very little of Grand Mother Silk. But we know she's very vindictive and spiteful. If you think you can just walk off with the holy silk that she gave you then you're a fool. She says it herself

>...Their voices... Their song...
>...Their memory...
>...Bind their shells...
>...Bind their souls...
>...Bind them all...
>...Raise them... Up...
>...To devote... Eternal...
>...One mind... One union...
>...They are ours... Bound forever...

The bugs of Pharloom are hers and only hers. She does not share. If Hornet is a true Weaver then that Silk she uses isn't hers. It's on loan from the Grand Mother, the only goddess of silk there is. That's why the Weavers had to flee Pharloom. The Grand Mother wouldn't stay asleep forever and they cannot still be here once she wakes up. That's also why Deepnest refused to kneel to the Pale King in Hollownest. They just got out of bed with one Pale Being, they're not going to get in bed with another one.
Anonymous No.725029182 [Report] >>725029338
>>725028974
Every step she took into Pharloom was reckless. She knew what she was.

The heroic thing would've been for Hornet to kill herself IMMEDIATELY, ending the reprehensible and treasonous Weaver line.
Anonymous No.725029184 [Report] >>725029459
>>725025362
>their
The overuse of this made a lot of dialogue awkward
Anonymous No.725029196 [Report]
>>725029118
That's basically what the true ending was, yes.
Anonymous No.725029240 [Report]
>>725022161
>game 1
>trans shitflinging
>game 2
>trans shitflinging
>game 951
>trans shitflinging
*ahem*
one joke
your lthe game
Anonymous No.725029246 [Report] >>725029460
>>725028974
>it would have worked if Lace didn't get caught too
Why didn't she just throw Lace?
Anonymous No.725029338 [Report]
>>725029182
Now you're just being dense on purpose.
Anonymous No.725029383 [Report] >>725030004
>>725029128
>>725029143
What people seem to miss is that Widow's post-fight memory shows that the existence of the Weavers was to uplift and glorify GMS first and foremost. We're told exactly how or why, but their role was to serve, not to have free will. They tolerated it when they thought they were divine children, but when First Sinner realized they were all just uplifted pharlids that's when the Weavers flipped their shit.
Anonymous No.725029459 [Report] >>725029598
>>725029184
I actually agree with this. My first pass through the game I did not know this >>725029143 was Grand Mother Silk speaking directly to Hornet. Because she uses the pronoun "our" to refer to herself. Even as other characters refer to her as female. Fucking weird TC
Anonymous No.725029460 [Report]
>>725029246
>Why didn't she just throw Lace?
She didn't exactly have time, did she?
Anonymous No.725029485 [Report]
>>725029143
>But we know she's very vindictive and spiteful.
Based on what? The silk hearts just sound like she's lonely and wants immortal companions. The dominance was instinctual, she could actually be very sweet for all you know.

>>725029128
>but Hornet is one hundred percent in the wrong
I completely agree actually, Silk Mum did nothing wrong.
Anonymous No.725029519 [Report] >>725040619
>>725021773
why do fags insist on making cute petite girls into men with boobs? you are in the closet, anon
Anonymous No.725029550 [Report]
>>725027902
it's completely optional and doesn't have an empty spot
Anonymous No.725029579 [Report]
>>725028613
>we see Grand Mother Silk with the mask of a Pale Wyrm
It's not a mask, it's a tuning fork, like on Mount Fay, there was supposed to be a questline about this, but it was cut along with the ending.
https://hollowknight.wiki/w/Cut_Content_(Silksong)#Cinematics
Anonymous No.725029598 [Report]
>>725029459
>Because she uses the pronoun "our" to refer to herself.
She's the monarch of Pharloom. The royal plural has been a thing since ancient times.
Anonymous No.725029625 [Report] >>725030480 >>725031014
>>725029143
She's the rightful god of Pharloom and there's not even any question about it. She uplifted the Weavers and they turned on her so that they could prey freely on the lesser bugs. One hundred percent guaranteed that their little rebellion only occurred because they weren't "free" to be the vicious monsters they wanted to be with mommy around to discipline them.

So it's not a surprise that she would take a dim view of free will when she's finally returning to the waking world. And she STILL gave free will to Lace, which only bit her on the ass again.
Anonymous No.725029842 [Report]
People seem to miss that there was a period of time where GMS ruled benevolently. The time before she uplifted the Weavers, then her rule during the time they served her, then plotted and conspired. Everyone worshipped the Weavers before they left, but GMS was the ruler. Nobody actually complained about her or had any problem with her rule before the Conductors rose to power.
Anonymous No.725030004 [Report] >>725030158
>>725029383
This is true and I agree with you. I know the game presents Grand Mother Silk as a tyrannical goddess, and maybe she was. But the Weavers were just as bad, if not worse and the Conductors after them was worse than all of them. Really the only ones worthy of pity in Pharloom are the Pilgrims who never had a chance to defend themselves.

>tfw you're just living your life in your own village when the golden sentinels invade and drag you to Pharloom
Anonymous No.725030158 [Report] >>725030430
>>725030004
Yeah the game did not make it ambiguous as all that the Weavers were all cunts, Pharloom was a clusterfuck of everyone at the top making the worst decisions acting like assholes until Hornet cuts everyone free.
Anonymous No.725030430 [Report] >>725031235
>>725030158
And it's not even sensible. There's a rune harp in Shellwood where someone told the Weavers to stop eating their subjects. The Conductors tried to outlaw sickness and death. The surgeons were basically butchers. Everything went downhill so fucking fast
Anonymous No.725030480 [Report] >>725030823 >>725049416
>>725029625
GMS last act is one of self-sacrifice. She gives up the last of her Silk - the last of her Soul - to permit Hornet to carry Lace out of the Void.

Prior to that, we see her sacrificing herself spinning a cocoon to protect Lace from the Void. It's not GMS we fight at the end of the game. It's Lace who has succumbed to the Void and gone mad.

While it is certainly possible that it was Grand Mother Silk's intention to bind and consume Hornet to fuel her awakening (as suggested by the cut Strung to Serve ending which was dropped along with the tuning fork mechanic earlier in development), Lace seems to think that GMS wants Hornet as a surrogate daughter and GMS own dialogue in the Silkheart visions seems to suggest that she wants Hornet to come to her willingly.

Hornet, conversely, repeatedly tells us that pale beings can only ever exist in conflict with one another. It's her Wyrm half's desire for dominance and her Weaver half's instinct for duplicity that drives her to confront GMS. Pharloom may be a fallen kingdom, but she is directly responsible for its calamity because she's consumed by the urge to kill.

Grand Mother Silk did nothing wrong and there's no reason to think that her awakening wouldn't have lead to a resurgent Pharloom under her benevolence.

We are all still paying the price for the Pale King's hubris. Get ready to see his progeny ruin the City of Steel next.
Anonymous No.725030823 [Report] >>725030993 >>725031715
>>725030480
I'm still of the opinion that it was Phantom that convinced Lace she was worthless. Given that Phantom was abandoned to the exhausts to rot. And that Lace only gave up hope after her 2nd fight with Hornet when she realized she'll never keep up. Grand Mother Silk says

>...Better a child spun mad... than none...
>...Better a child spun frail... than none...
>...Better a child spun pure... than them...
>...One to wish our waking...
>...From our Silk... A child born loyal...

To wish our waking. A child born loyal. Meaning Lace was spun after the Weavers's betrayal and GMS was put to sleep. Lace never actually spoke to her mother and only had Phantom as a point of reference
Anonymous No.725030993 [Report] >>725031262
>>725030823
>Lace never actually spoke to her mother
I feel bad for both of them. Do you think they had a chance to talk while they were stuck in the void?
Anonymous No.725031014 [Report]
>>725029625
>One hundred percent guaranteed that their little rebellion only occurred because they weren't "free" to be the vicious monsters they wanted to be with mommy around to discipline them.
>GMS: "Girls, don't eat the mortals. Bugs are friends not food."
>Atla: "Oh my Silk what a bitch."
>Cindril: "We should kill her."

This is canon now.
Anonymous No.725031176 [Report] >>725031704
>>725014956
Ha, no.

Learn to type retard.
Anonymous No.725031235 [Report] >>725032008
>>725030430
>There's a rune harp in Shellwood where someone told the Weavers to stop eating their subjects.
I know the one you're referring to and it does imply that the Weavers were free to prey on the lesser bugs while GMS was in charge and only stopped when the Weavers took over and needed the bugs to keep her asleep.
Anonymous No.725031262 [Report]
>>725030993
>Lace: Spider dear, what a delight to have you visit! It is oh so lonely here at the bottom of the world.

>Hornet: I cannot share your mirth, child. Your small rebellion above now causes this kingdom's collapse.

>Lace: Letting you live was my rebellion, spider. I've denied my mother your silken strength. I've won. She can thrash, and waste, and know her pathetic, broken child caused the mortal wound. Rejoice! And let it all come down.

>Hornet: I will not. I have already stood the sentinel for one dying land. That role... I will never play again. While I live, and possess the strength to resist, this kingdom, and the bugs within it, shall not fall.

Either they didn't speak, the Void has taken her, or she just doesn't care anymore
Anonymous No.725031551 [Report]
>>725017470
Based.
I would also recommend to hit the gym and spend more time in nature. Not just outsidem since if you live in the city "outside" can be more depressing than internet.
Anonymous No.725031704 [Report] >>725045574
>>725031176
The projection goes hard on this one. Haha. Weren't people denied entry to the country for those memes?
Anonymous No.725031715 [Report] >>725032139
>>725030823
I'm with you but for one point, I don't think Phantom was discarded. I think she started to fray and blamed GMS for it, and hid herself away in the Exhaust Organ out of shame and anger.

I'm not considering any cut content regarding the organ sleepers because it's irrelevant to the version of the character we see in the published game.

Her Needolin dialogue shows she wants to die, and for whatever reason was unable or unwilling to take her own life. Like Lace she resented her frail existence and was more nihilistic because she was starting to come unraveled. And just like Lace, I don't think Phantom ever communicated directly with GMS and had to infer meaning from vague thoughts and feelings transmitted through her silk in the same way Pavo described being Haunted.

So they both only have the sense that their mother spun them to by disposable, because her thoughts were only ever on the Weavers' betrayal and bringing back their scattered progeny.
Anonymous No.725032008 [Report] >>725032842
>>725031235
That's not what the harp implies. It's stating that the bugs of Shellwood are no longer the Weaver's prey because she died.

The Weaver spires were objects of worship for the bugs of Pharloom while the Weavers were in power. There's no reason to believe that they were dying in such numbers whole GMS was still awake. Whatever original GMS worship existed in Pharloom has long since been overtaken by Weaver worship and the cult they created to leep GMS asleep.
Anonymous No.725032089 [Report]
>>725022015
Weavers or wiggers as I like to call them should have never been gifted sentience. If any of them still remain they should be slain, and that mixed mutt Hornet should be raped as punishment for her partially dirty blood, preferably by me.
Anonymous No.725032139 [Report] >>725032472 >>725032569 >>725033542
>>725031715
Phantom is a curious case because it says that she was "tasked" with expelling Pharloom's waste. Meaning she didn't have a choice. Considering Pious Isamor strongly implies the Citadel was much smaller by the time power changed hands from the Weavers to the Conductors, I'm more willing to believe it was the Conductors that forced her to be there as they began expanding The Citadel and they started dumping waste into Bilewater. Or at the least Phantom was assigned to be there as the Weavers were diminishing.
Anonymous No.725032398 [Report] >>725045816
>>725016521
>the reason you hate disgusting, degenerate, child-grooming monsters is because YOU want to groom children!
Anonymous No.725032472 [Report]
>>725032139
Also, this is a non sequitur but the Weavers lament the pollution brought to Bilewater. Calling area near Fleatopia a "reminder" of their old kingdom. So both the Weavers and Phantom are implied to have seen the ruin of Bilewater
Anonymous No.725032505 [Report]
>>725023739
It should unironically be legal to murder you.
Anonymous No.725032569 [Report] >>725032946
>>725032139
Maybe GMS gave her a section of the Citadel to herself, like a granny flat, and the Conductors barged in and said "right, this is going to be the exhaust now. You live here? You're running it."
I don't think GMS would have exiled Phantom to the sewer, based on how lovingly she feels toward Lace.
Anonymous No.725032657 [Report]
>>725022643
>I may not be certain, but you cannot prove me wrong
Brown mentality.
Anonymous No.725032842 [Report] >>725033672
>>725032008
The Weavers didn't care about personal worship for themselves, GMS did. The Weavers cared about keeping GMS asleep and only set up the Citadel for that purpose. Additionally, the Weavers were presented as divine children by GMS herself, and it wouldn't make sense for pilgrims to worship the beast that were stalking and eating them.
Anonymous No.725032934 [Report]
>oversexualized
Anonymous No.725032946 [Report]
>>725032569
Oh yeah, I don't believe for a second that GMS would've let that slide. But then you have to answer the question of why would Phantom, and by extension Lace, have such a dim opinion of the Grand Mother. The only way I can make sense of it is the Problem of Evil argument. GMS is all powerful. If she's all powerful, then she could stop this uprising at any time. And if she loves then, then she would want to stop it. So if she doesn't stop it, then she must not love them. In the court of Grand Mother Silk that's not really fair because we see what she would do to save her children if she could but if, at least, Lace was spun without ever having spoke with her god mother then I can see how both children would unfairly judge the Grand Mother for their plights. The Grand Mother isn't all powerful. And she didn't stop Phantom's abuse because she couldn't.
Anonymous No.725033181 [Report]
I purposefully let Hornet be captured in the Slab and stopped playing
Anonymous No.725033489 [Report] >>725037825
>>725015275
Of all games to dedicate my time gitting gud at why would I pick trooncore like Silksong?
Anonymous No.725033542 [Report] >>725034063
>>725032139
I would be careful of reading too much into that because they're Hornet's in-character observations and not necessarily an authoritative word-of-god. How's Hornet going to know if Phantom was ordered to operate the Exhaust Organ, or if she's going it because she's an emo teenager all up in her feelings. "I'm garbage this is where I belong"?

I will say that I don't believe there's any overlap between the time of the Weavers and the creation of the silkspun sisters. We know from Pious Isamor that the Weavers bequeathed the Citadel to the mortal bugs of Pharloom in a much more austere state than it ended up. The mechanical infrastructure to support the Cogwork Core all would have had to come much, much later, after the song has started to falter and the Architects were tasked with coming up with an automated alternative.

There's some (likely intentional) ambiguity, but I don't think that GMS started to awaken until after that, and Phantom and Lace being essentially messianic figures of their god-mother's impending return would not have been permitted to exist if the Weavers were still around.

Most likely sequence is, Weavers overthrow GMS, keep her asleep themselves for a time, foist it off on the mortals by establishing the Citadel of Song, lurk in Pharloom for a time while they try to figure out how to permanently destroy GMS, then flee from Pharloom when they can't.

The Conductors, meanwhile, become decadent as the heads of a Weaver-worshipping cult, then complacent as they get comfortable with a constant influx of pilgrims to raise them up. As pilgrimage begins to decline, they resort to increasing reliance on automata - first the Sentinels to abduct bugs to serve, then the creation of the Cogwork Core itself to power the autochoir - and silk suture to keep a dwindling number of choristers singing longer. The order of operations here is a little ambiguous but may overlap or occur concurrently.
Anonymous No.725033635 [Report]
Anonymous No.725033672 [Report] >>725033937
>>725032842
All of the Weaver effigies you collect might contraindicate your point.
Anonymous No.725033937 [Report] >>725034951
>>725033672
Not really, because again, the presentation of the Weavers as divine children was done by GMS, not the Weavers, and the Weavers rebelled when they learned it was fake. It's also important to note where you get the effigies from: Mosshome, Chapel of the Witch, and The Slab. All areas beyond the scope of the decadent Weaver-designed Citadel, all indicating that the practice started before the Weavers took over.
Now, did the Weavers take advantage of the pre-existing worship for their own goals? Absolutely reasonable to assume they would, since it would give them more clout to impose their pilgrim chorus to keep GMS trapped. But it was not the Weavers to created it, GMS did, and for the Weavers it was the means to an end, they did not desire worship for its own sake.
Anonymous No.725034025 [Report]
>>725013981 (OP)
You know how troons like to pretend everything they like is also trans and hyper-progressive, and they make shit up out of thin air to convince themselves of it? This place loves doing the same but on the opposite end. If they find something they like, they make shit up out of thin air to convince themselves it's racist and based.
Anonymous No.725034063 [Report]
>>725033542
That's mostly fair however even if Hornet isn't 100% correct in her assessments, she's perceptive enough for them to at least point you in the right direction. For example she's able to see that Phantom is a silk spun child just like Lace.

As far as the Weavers, I think your assessment is correct. The Weavers seemingly realized that they were on the clock the moment Grand Mother Silk was bound. Weavenest Murglin has a note where a Weaver expresses concern at running out of Silk as she was working on the Silkshot tool. A device she never even finished. That's probably another reason why they fled Pharloom. How could they possibly retain their divine image as they wasted away in front of their subjects?
Anonymous No.725034951 [Report] >>725035161 >>725035237
>>725033937
The Weavers didn't design the Citadel to be decadent, though. Pious Isamor tells us that the stark citadel of stone was a gift from the Weavers. All of the ostentatious ornamentation came from the Conductors after they took over, once the Weavers left.
Anonymous No.725035161 [Report]
>>725034951
We have to factor in that the Pilgrims of the time would have a different perception of Pharloom than the Weavers did. I'm not saying the Weavers made the current day Citadel but to say the DIVINE CHILDREN were living the same as the Pilgrims is a little hard to believe.
Anonymous No.725035229 [Report] >>725035764
>>725028739
I wonder if Herra was successful not only because of a pale being's seed but also because she was built different
Anonymous No.725035237 [Report] >>725035905
>>725034951
I wasn't saying they did, I was saying that the effigies all being outside the Citadel indicates that Weaver worship did not continue when the Citadel was established, otherwise you'd not only find effigies in the Citadel itself but they might be more ornate depending on whether the Conductors continued that practice as the Citadel grew more ornate. Keeping in mind that the justification for the Conductors' rule is essentially divine mandate from the Weavers.
Anonymous No.725035764 [Report] >>725035991
>>725035229
Probably half and half. Herrah is notably beefier than her sister's and her mask looks totally different. But she's definitely a Weaver because Hornet is cited as being 50% Weaver
Anonymous No.725035905 [Report] >>725036228 >>725036243
>>725035237
I think it's reasonable to infer that the Conductors were happy to let the Weavers' role in their religion diminish over time once they were out of the picture. They're still basically worshipping a big ball of silk, and loathe as I am to draw parallels to real-world religion, there are a lot of extremely overt similarities to Catholocism which originated as a Jewish messianic cult, but today has very little to do with Judaism and in fact has at turns actively minimized or intentionally obscured its connection to the preceding religion through various ecumenical councils and liturgical decrees.

Not saying that there's any evidence for anything like that in Silksong but, come on - you're going to tell me that after however many generations removed the Weavers are from control of Pharloom, the religion they established is still going to be doctrinally identical to what they laid down when we have the explicit example of how far the Conductors have fallen in pursuit of their own self-aggrandizement?
Anonymous No.725035991 [Report]
>>725035764
She got fat from eating the King of the Spider Tribe, which is how she got to be Queen of Deepnest.
Anonymous No.725036186 [Report] >>725036316 >>725036413 >>725039340
>>725013981 (OP)
RUDE. Hornet is polite and recognizes that Pharloom is a challenge even to her. Her only mistake was trusting salt dodgers.
Anonymous No.725036228 [Report]
>>725035905
>you're going to tell me that after however many generations removed the Weavers are from control of Pharloom, the religion they established is still going to be doctrinally identical to what they laid down
Actually no, if anything I'm saying the opposite. The fact that the weaver effigies are all crude stone carvings shows that the doctrine did not stay consistent and was in fact abandoned, which is exactly my point. Weaver worship was at its height under GMS because it was GMS who created the idea of the Weavers being her divine children, which the Weavers themselves believed. It was only after they found out it was a lie and they weren't divine that they rebelled. At that point, Weaver worship was only exploited as the means to an end, and eventually fell out altogether. Ultimately, the Weavers were not the ones who instituted the practice while they were the runs who ruled because that was not their goal at the time.
Anonymous No.725036243 [Report] >>725037274
>>725035905
I'd like to remark that so many Citadel Pilgrims declare that they've been chosen but almost none of them say the name of Grand Mother Silk or even the First Children. By the time of Pharloom's fall, The Conductors had made themselves the gods of Pharloom. And if Grand Mother Silk hadn't begun to stir and all had gone according to plan, they would've made themselves immortal while turning all the "lesser bugs" into automatons, built to serve forever.
Anonymous No.725036316 [Report] >>725037540 >>725039340
>>725036186
>Her only mistake was trusting salt dodgers.

That's racist!
Anonymous No.725036413 [Report] >>725039340
>>725036186
>salt dodgers
unholy kek
Anonymous No.725037274 [Report]
>>725036243
This is an Unassailable Fact and you were clearly paying attention to the game.
Anonymous No.725037540 [Report] >>725038173 >>725039340
>>725036316
Around snails, watch yourselves
Anonymous No.725037825 [Report] >>725038275
>>725033489
There's no troons in the game.
Anonymous No.725038173 [Report] >>725039117 >>725039340
>>725037540
Around snails, caution prevails.
Anonymous No.725038190 [Report] >>725038345 >>725038481
Are there any lines in the game where Lace refers to GMS as 'mother'? I honestly don't remember. Maybe some needolin lore? I'm just not sure if it was a true mother-daughter relationship.
Anonymous No.725038275 [Report] >>725040584 >>725047407
>>725037825
there's lgbt gay niggas
Anonymous No.725038345 [Report] >>725039551
>>725038190
Needolin dialogue during Lace 2 in the Cradle

>Why her... Mother...
>See me cut! See me serve!
>A child, too broken...
>I will not fade! I will not take!
>See me, your knight...
>See me, your daughter...
Anonymous No.725038481 [Report] >>725038576 >>725039849
>>725038190
Needolin dialogue during the Cradle fight:
>Why her... Mother...
>See me, your daughter...
After the Cradle fight:
> Face the holy mother who would fashion so cruel and crude a daughter as me.
First Abyss conversation:
> Letting you live was my rebellion, spider. I've denied my mother your silken strength. I've won.
Anonymous No.725038576 [Report] >>725039219 >>725040163
>>725038481
>I've denied my mother your silken strength.

Well that's confirmation that GMS wanted to take Hornet's strength for her own and that's why she was brought to Pharloom
Anonymous No.725039117 [Report]
>>725038173
That's a good one!
Anonymous No.725039219 [Report] >>725039551
>>725038576
That's an awfully literal interpretation when the last time we see Lace, she's all in her feelings that mommy's going to replace her.
Anonymous No.725039340 [Report] >>725039913
>>725036186
>>725036316
>>725036413
>>725038173
>>725037540
>Their shells are ours. Their souls are ours. Our hate is eternal
Anonymous No.725039551 [Report]
>>725039219
Well personally I think it was out of spite. When she's fighting Hornet here >>725038345, she's desperate for her mother to see her. But when she loses, she seems to just give up. And she's traded acting out to get her love to acting out to get her scorn. If the Grand Mother won't see me then I'll burn both her and her shitty kingdom to the ground. Even if it means they'll die together. As long she gets to watch her mother go first.
Anonymous No.725039801 [Report]
>>725029143
>They just got out of bed with one Pale Being, they're not going to get in bed with another one
except herrah did.
Anonymous No.725039849 [Report] >>725039953 >>725040163 >>725042406
>>725038481
>I've denied my mother your silken strength
The next time we see the "but why did GMS kidnap Hornet" guy in these threads, we can just show him this line. Zero ambiguity here.
Anonymous No.725039913 [Report] >>725040080
>>725039340
That wasnt the snails, that was the moss niggers, they hate the citadel cunts because all the runoff from the industrialism is whats making their home a swampy shithole
Anonymous No.725039953 [Report] >>725040320
>>725039849
That guy is an idiot and he'll just say something to the effect of "nah that doesn't count. TC just didn't care and HK1 was better. "
Anonymous No.725040006 [Report] >>725040460 >>725041149 >>725041680
Hornet figured out the sniggers before most players. She has more information than we do. She KNEW that they were gonna use void somehow. Even if Lace didn't penetrate her mom, Hornet would have been dragged down to the abyss with GMS anyway
Anonymous No.725040080 [Report]
>>725039913
I was more referencing that the people shittalking the Snails are saying shit the Stilkin might've said to justify killing the Snail Shaman and taking his soul abilities. Groal didn't even take all of it. There was enough left over for Hornet to still be impressed by it.
Anonymous No.725040163 [Report]
>>725038576
>>725039849
tbf Lace never actually was able to talk to her mom, so that's her assumption. And they did get rid of the cut ending for a reason.
Anonymous No.725040320 [Report] >>725040565
>>725039953
Yes, but have you considered that we never actually see the effects of the haunting?
Anonymous No.725040460 [Report] >>725040561 >>725040662 >>725040779
>>725040006
>She has more information than we do. She KNEW that they were gonna use void somehow.
I mean, the Caretaker says as much. And Hornet's expectations by that point kind of mirror's the player’s own: the Silk & Soul quest spells it out to you they are snails, and the snails in Hollow Knight are pretty tied to the Void. It’s a matter of putting two and two together.
Anonymous No.725040561 [Report]
>>725040460
The Caretaker even tells Hornet, "lol what did you think we were gonna do?"
Anonymous No.725040565 [Report] >>725041196
>>725040320
I mean I know the Haunting happens in Moss Grotto and the Choral Chambers. But that's just because I physically see the Silk threads go into NPCs. We don't know why the bugs in Hunters March and Deep Docks attack you because the game never tells us they're Haunted
Anonymous No.725040584 [Report]
>>725038275
And you kill them, twice.
Anonymous No.725040619 [Report]
>>725017836
I wish i was in held in her hands >>725021773
>>725029519
>sees woman with big breasts
>sees fit woman
>calls her a man
why do "you" fags always do this trying to call an actual woman a man
Anonymous No.725040662 [Report] >>725041015
>>725040460
>the snails in Hollow Knight are pretty tied to the Void
Pretty sure they're not? It was a SS addition. In HK they're just a wizard tribe that mastered soul magic
Anonymous No.725040779 [Report]
>>725040460
Yet people think Hornet is wholly innocent by saying 'b-but this old ass demigod half raised by a literal god didn't know they were gonna use void!'
Anonymous No.725041015 [Report] >>725041483
>>725040662
Shade Soul and Descending Dark are both obtained from dead snail shamans.
Anonymous No.725041110 [Report] >>725041378
Hornet wanted the better option for Pharloom, but the cost was just too great.. OH MY BUGGY, she's indeed PK's daughter
Anonymous No.725041149 [Report] >>725041281 >>725041876 >>725042423
>>725040006
>Hornet: What work do you require of me now to see your service made?

>Caretaker: It's my family's strength you'll need be seeking, bellringer, us three ol' bugs still alive, spread 'cross this kingdom, and that sad soul you're already carryin' there, the last of my poor cousin, dead and drained in those rotten swamps. Each of my family has power, raw, savage stuff. For you, they'll give it, if for their fascination at the act, or the thrill of defiance... or because they have no choice at all. And last, as the base, seek a weapon of Weavers past. Should still be one left, down there in their largest nest, a snare to set a rune'o searing Silk. Our own trap'll be woven tight about it.

The only thing Hornet knew about the trap was that it used Weaver technology and raw soul power from the Snails. She had no idea it'd rip open a hole into The Void. Something she rightfully calls them out on

>Hornet: Cowards. Here you hide, even as you cause your own land's demise.

>Caretaker: You seem displeased, Old One. We only did as you asked, yes? The snare is sprung, the creature consumed.

>Hornet: You bound it to that void!

>Caretaker: Don't play daft. You should well know our family's fixations. Surely you had a hunch?

>Bell Hermit: How else could we hope to trap one of your pale kin? Or see her consumed with such insatiable efficiency?
Anonymous No.725041196 [Report] >>725041352 >>725044116
>>725040565
Absolutely correct! How am I supposed to know they're possessed if they aren't full to bursting with orange goo?
Anonymous No.725041281 [Report]
>>725041149
>The only thing Hornet knew about the trap was that it used Weaver technology and raw soul power from the Snails.
Also her own silk, and that it would need the needolin to activate. It wouldn't be a stretch to think Hornet assumed they had some way to recreate the original snare that trapped GMS in the first place.
Anonymous No.725041352 [Report] >>725042096
>>725041196
For that matter, why did the Conductors get so greedy and lazy? Yes I know Pious Isamor warns them not to get decadent and Ballador says they forgot that this kingdom belongs to Grand Mother Silk and no other... but why?
Anonymous No.725041378 [Report]
>>725041110
And afterwards she still sacrificed an entire ecosystem and justified it shamelessly. No cock too grate...
>Her strength was needed, what was left, to cut Pharloom free of its black thread threat. It was a savage act, no doubt, but the reason was just.
Anonymous No.725041483 [Report] >>725041662 >>725041764 >>725042213
>>725041015
I remember asking this in the HK discord and their explanation was that it was Ghost himself twisting snail magic into Shade Soul. This is confirmed in-game if you go back to the shaman in Forgotten Crossroads after acquiring Shade Soul.
>What's this? My vengeful gift has warped within you. You've twisted it into something... else.
>Ohohohoh! I knew it. My friend! You're a marvel. Your essence has melded with the spell.
>You must have found a powerful source to transform it in such a unique, expressive way.
Anonymous No.725041662 [Report]
>>725041483
The living shaman also denies that any of his family had experimented with the abyss, however he also was unaware that they all fucking died so maybe he was just kept in the dark (pun not intended).
Anonymous No.725041680 [Report]
>>725040006
>Even if Lace didn't penetrate her mom, Hornet would have been dragged down to the abyss with GMS anyway
I think the snails would have called that a twofer.
Anonymous No.725041764 [Report] >>725042176 >>725042316
>>725041483
Welp, guess they retconned around the relationship between the snails shamans and Void LOL.
Anonymous No.725041876 [Report] >>725042423
>>725041149
No she knew. Again, she is a demigod very familiar with all sorts of groups of people. She calls them out but when they call her out back, she doesn't have a comeback. People forget that Team Cherry arent afraid of making even their main characters unreliable/biased narrators. She's the daughter of a guy who knew the only way to trap a god was using void.
Anonymous No.725041994 [Report] >>725043165
You faggots better be there on the 7th for Queen of /v/ to support Hornet (unless you happen to have another waifu who also qualifies there).
Anonymous No.725042096 [Report]
>>725041352
human- I mean bug nature.
Anonymous No.725042176 [Report]
>>725041764
Silksong spelled out the obvious. Snails shouldn't be trusted
Anonymous No.725042213 [Report]
>>725041483
Have you considered sniggers are pathological liars and untrustworthy?
Anonymous No.725042316 [Report]
>>725041764
makes a lot more sense to treat the snail shamans as shamans, they're just normal dudes playing with power beyond their comprehension. they knew a little about void and figured it could kill GMS, and they weren't wrong, lace caused the whole act 3 stuff.
Anonymous No.725042406 [Report]
>>725039849
holy cringe
Anonymous No.725042423 [Report] >>725042576 >>725043008
>>725041149
>>725041876
I think it's fair to say Hornet, like the player, had a hunch, but not much of a precise idea beyond that, and even most importantly felt desperate to find a solution. When I went to fight GMS with the snare set up I was bracing myself for an "oh shit" moment involving the void, BUT I wasn't exactly expecting a portal to open up and for it (mostly due to Lace's involvement, but still) to fuck the whole place up.
Anonymous No.725042576 [Report]
>>725042423
me too anon, and walking around right after I felt exactly what hornet must have felt when she realized what she had done. going into this game blind was the best thing I've ever done.
Anonymous No.725042652 [Report] >>725042771
>I have known your kind before, sir. Yours is a tribe that works and trades in power, and I am about to extinguish its prime source.
>Once this is done, will you truly delight in a land so bereft?
I dont get it. Is she saying GMS is the reason the snails had so much power?
Anonymous No.725042771 [Report]
>>725042652
GMS is the primordial source of the silk, which itself is powered by soul which the shamans experiment with. With the Weavers gone, GMS is all Pharloom has in terms of higher power that the snails would be interested in.
Anonymous No.725043008 [Report]
>>725042423
Hornet knows that the Void does nothing until you fuck with it. And the thing that was tearing apart Pharloom wasn't expressly the Void. Rather Grand Mother Silk refusing to die

>Chapel Maid: The quakes... This collapse will take Pharloom all.

>Hornet: If the void doesn't claim it first. Surely you've seen them, the black threads that wrack your lands? The dark leeches up, possessed upon the fallen monarch's Silk. Pharloom's roads were not safe before. Now they'll prove impassable. Those pilgrims still alive in your lands best huddle and hope. If there can be another end to this, it is up to us to discover it.

>Chapel Maid: Even knowing her motivation, it is a shock the monarch can resist so long. We'd thought none could survive that void.

>Hornet: She will have retreated within her protective form, that cocoon of thread. Even as the dark eats its outer, she will spin its Silk anew. The effort would be immense and it will strain her soul thin, but what other choice remains?This is the desperate act of a dying god. A defiance that, left unchallenged, will bring your kingdom's ruin.
Anonymous No.725043157 [Report] >>725043859
Was gonna link to everyone that's been shitting on Haunting Guy but I'm getting spam filtered for it. (Skill issue)

Just wanted to say, it has been a breath of fresh air to actually discuss things that happen in the game instead of arguing with someone that only watched a YouTube play-through and didn't read any dialogue.
Anonymous No.725043165 [Report] >>725043279
>>725041994
Between the funny journal entry and the yuritroon fanart posting, I'd be surprised if she even makes it to top 50.
Anonymous No.725043279 [Report]
>>725043165
The journal entry spam is the work of a single schizo, and the yuri shit is literally just that, fanart.
Anonymous No.725043847 [Report]
>>725013981 (OP)
>homophobic
>racist
>arrogant
>disposition ranges form passive aggressive to outright genocidal
>reckless
>dimwitted

Based. I only live for she!
Anonymous No.725043859 [Report]
>>725043157
Haunting schizo forgot he had been siphon silks for healing the whole game. welp, he would know that if he had played the game
Anonymous No.725044116 [Report]
>>725041196
I might be stupid but I still don't get the connection between a big moth and orange goo.
Anonymous No.725044774 [Report]
>>725013981 (OP)
>Non-white foreigner kills, rapes, steals, destroys property, publically deficates in front of an elementary school, kidnaps, etc.
>”Oh come on guys! He didn’t mean it and how was he supposed to know all that stuff was illegal? Give him another shot with 0 consequences!”
>Warrior princess calls another bug a “filthy bugger”. Said bug probably has commited multiple crimes before and probably will commit more crimes against humanity
>”DEATH PENALTY KILL HER!”
I have anti-racist fatigue.
Anonymous No.725045320 [Report] >>725045463 >>725049423 >>725049889
>be hornet
>see a massive impressive civilization with things like showers
>immediately think only a pale god could do something like this
>meanwhile the mortal mob that took over the citadel doesn't know how to fucking rule properly and ruined the citadel
>the surrounding mortal tribes were gonna kill each other anyway (khann being a tyrannical conqueror)
Wait.... So gods are... Based? Provided you don't betray them anyway
Anonymous No.725045463 [Report]
>>725045320
How was Khan going to get past the Skarr? Who gives a shit about Shellwood?
Anonymous No.725045487 [Report]
>>725017470
If you were groomed well in your 20s then you're probably still pretty mentally ill
Anonymous No.725045574 [Report]
>>725031704
Yep
https://youtu.be/8eEz_oVNhak
Anonymous No.725045693 [Report]
>>725025117
It's only reckless if you fail
Anonymous No.725045816 [Report]
>>725032398
Have you seen /r9k/?
Anonymous No.725047407 [Report]
>>725038275
Yeah those are not troons. Fags do not want you to deny the reality
Anonymous No.725049416 [Report]
>>725030480
>We are all still paying the price for the Pale King's hubris.
Moth claws typed this post.
Anonymous No.725049423 [Report]
>>725045320
>immediately think only a pale god could do something like this
it's been a thing since the first game. the Pale King "expanded" the minds of his subjects a.k.a. raised a complex civilization that was more than a mere tribe like the mantis.
Anonymous No.725049863 [Report] >>725050037
>>725028974
Her interactions with Greyroot are pretty reckless
Anonymous No.725049889 [Report] >>725050106 >>725050302
>>725045320
>>be hornet
>>see a massive impressive civilization with things like showers
>>immediately think only a pale god could do something like this
I know this is bait but this thread is slow.
Hornet figured it out because of the haunting, no mortal bug could've done something like that and at such scale. Also, Lace kept spilling the beans like the giddy retard she is.
Anonymous No.725050037 [Report]
>>725049863
I mean, I would not have expected the weird plant lady to rape me, either.
Anonymous No.725050106 [Report]
>>725049889
She said something about the land's 'grandeur' alongside the haunting for the reasons.
Anonymous No.725050302 [Report] >>725050407 >>725050438
>>725049889
It's worth noting that Hornet knows how deep rooted the desire to dominate is as a Pale Being. Because she's a Pale Being herself. Hornet has to make an active decision not to be like the Pale King or the Grand Mother every day.
Anonymous No.725050407 [Report] >>725050682
>>725050302
Pale King was not like GMS THOUGH.
Anonymous No.725050438 [Report]
>>725050302
I mean, it's not a bad fate.
Anonymous No.725050682 [Report] >>725051031
>>725050407
Pale King still held authority over Hollownest even if he was a benevolent ruler. Hornet does not want to be a monarch at all. Or rather she knows any desire to be a monarch is a base urge built into her blood that she chooses to ignore.
Anonymous No.725051031 [Report]
>>725050682
That's more like it.
Anonymous No.725051194 [Report]
>>725025447
It’s probably multiple people all pretending to be the same person, then.
Anonymous No.725052243 [Report] >>725052629
the real mystery is why hitting the surface bugs gives you silk. they are some of the few bugs that don't have silk in their bodies
Anonymous No.725052629 [Report]
>>725052243
Because silk regeneration is a gameplay mechanic and not a narrative contrivance.

Mystery solved.