Thread 725014493

Play racing games

no

I am right now.

>>725014493 (OP)
yes

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vVIj0nIM7fk

RRT4 > Outrun > NFSU > Most Wanted > Micro Machines V3 > Burnout Paradise > Rest

You could probably add GT somewhere in there, but I stopped playing after like GT3.

>>725014493 (OP)
I would if the genre wasn't fucking dead. And the same methodology that gave it all the attention in the world is what killed it.

>Racing games were the easiest to make look super high def even on the lower end hardware
>Got tons of funding because it appealed to the most obsessed graphicsfags
>Every game looks the same now
>Racing games are dead outside of the big handful, which is Forza Horizon, Gran Turismo, iRacing, Formula 1, Auto Mobilista etc.

Even Need for Speed has fucking crumpled.

Thinking about starting either MW or Prostreet career (again)

>>725014493 (OP)
Which crt filter is that

>>725014935
>No ridge racer 5
Pleb

>>725014493 (OP)
Does anyone know a pixelated racing game which involved mostly going in a straight line and drifting around corners and had multiple interconnected stages? I remember the soundtrack being decent too.

>>725014493 (OP)
which racing games should I play?
I have an old laptop and want to do realistic track

I never really liked racing games when I was young, so this is not nostalgia talking:
Why were the PSX-era racing games so insanely comfy? A healthy mix of realism and style in the graphics, and THOSE SOUNDTRACKS! That Japanese flavor jazz fusion is like a warm duvet for my soul.

>>725014493 (OP)
Somebody tell me what's so bad about Ridge Racer 7 that it killed the franchise. It looks fine from what I can tell.

does wreckfest count as a racing game?

>>725015216
Outrun is a classic and always fun

>>725015212
>ridge racer 5
Also based taste. There was a track on RR5 that I was obsessed with, perfect for the drifting. I'll have to find it now.

>>725015548
Why wouldn't it? The goal is to reach the finish before everybody else, by definition it's a racing.

>>725014827
Is that your webm? I've played burnout 3 earlier this year on rpcsx2, and even with a bunch of hacks for image clarity the picture was a bit blurry, unlike the webm. If so, care to share settings used?

>>725015821
*racing game
Swear I'm developing fucking dementia. I keep forgetting entire words.

>>725015212
>>725015701
>RR5
>Namco cheaped out and pressed the game on a normal CD
>My PS2 turns into a jet engine every time I play it
I bought the console back in 2002 and by now I'm afraid it'll shred the drive into pieces.
PS1 CD's work fine, though.

Free racing games:

BLUR
https://archive.org/details/blur.-7z_202506

Test Drive Unlimited
https://archive.org/details/test-drive-unlimited.-7z_202506

Test Drive Unlimited 2
https://archive.org/details/test-drive-unlimited-2.7z

Sega Rally Revo
https://archive.org/details/sega-rally-revo.-7z_202506

Dirt 2
https://archive.org/details/di-rt-2.7z

Juiced
https://archive.org/details/juiced.-7z_202506

Juiced 2
https://archive.org/details/j-2-hin.-7z

Pure
https://archive.org/details/pure.-7z

Driver San Francisco
https://archive.org/details/driver-san-francisco.-7z

Outrun 2006: Coast 2 Coast
https://archive.org/details/out-run-2006-coast-2-coast.-7z

GRID
https://archive.org/details/race-driver-grid.-7z

Project Cars: GOTY Edition
https://archive.org/details/project-cars_202508

Project Cars 2
https://archive.org/details/project-cars-2_202508

Project Cars 3
https://archive.org/details/project-cars-3

The Crew
https://archive.org/details/tcu_20250916

>>725015854
That's from real hardware upscaled through a Retrotink 5X.

>>725015489
I didn't mind it, but it lacked the RR soul/fun. The cars were so boring too. Pretty sure it also had that annoying rubber banding for AI too, such bullshit. Still had some great tunes though.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3cPcLBkASes

>>725014935
>MMV3 that low
You have made a mockery of this establishment and I am going to need you to leave.

>>725015475
tl;dr
>OMG 3D
>racing games have a small field of view, so lots of tricks can be done to ease computation burden
>means loads of fancy looking tracks as who gives a fuck with that castle by the side of the road is only modelled on one face, you'll never see the sides
>cars can be anything you fucking want, real or fake a cool car is a cool car
>mechanically racing games are fairly simple, so it is easy to make them
>music because WE CD NAO and the psx can actually handle cd quality audio
Plenty of stinkers on the playstation due to the huge library (lmao max power racing) but the move to 3d in 5th gen was a MASSIVE boon for the genre.

>>725015976
Funky

>>725015470
I'm in the middle of a Grid Racedriver (2008) playthrough, it is fun. Someone already posted a dl link in here. Also I've heard Dirt 2 (2009) is good

>>725015475
Hit me up on some banger ost games please

>>725015909
I raise you-

>https://codemonkey.me.uk/rollcage_redux.php
>https://codemonkey.me.uk/rollcage_extreme.php
>https://re-volt.io/downloads/game

Im suprised how fun carxstreet is. Just turn down the audio for dialog and set subtitles to off and you got a comfy little street racer with a open world better than anything forza horzion has done

Here are some modern racing/car-based games to either try out, or keep an eye on. Recently released, early access, TBA, everything.

FUMES (Early Access)
https://store.steampowered.com/app/1920430/FUMES/

Tokyo Xtreme Racer
https://store.steampowered.com/app/2634950/Tokyo_Xtreme_Racer/

Easy Delivery Co.
https://store.steampowered.com/app/3293010/Easy_Delivery_Co/

Sonic Racing: CrossWorlds
https://store.steampowered.com/app/2486820/Sonic_Racing_CrossWorlds/

Screamer
https://store.steampowered.com/app/2814990/Screamer/

RESISTOR
https://store.steampowered.com/app/2271050/RESISTOR/

I miss when racing game OSTs were 40% trance, 40% DnB and 20% rock/metal of some kind.

>>725016321
The grind is mobile tier shit though, fuck that.

>>725016337
Screamer mite b cool, or it might just be inertial drift: daytime edition.

>>725016157
It's crazy how much Ridge Racer got immediately right despite being the literal SLPS 00001 release.

>>725016026
Fond memories playing this on the multi-tap with my brother and Dad. Our fave track was always the garden pond one where you turn into boats and back into monster trucks etc.

>>725016389
I mean it has the probably chance of not having some of the most soft shit writing imaginable. Inertial Drift's story was painful to deal with.

>M&M PoCs everywhere all super friendly and chummy so none of the racing had any bite

>>725016337
Oh, screamer actually looks fun now

>>725016392
Well it is a home port so it isn't like they made it from scratch. The good part is how they squeezed it onto the psx without butchering it as was common for the majority of home ports on previous systems. Namco and Psygnosis are the reason the playstation was taken seriously.

>>725016364
>I miss when racing game OSTs were 40% trance, 40% DnB and 20% rock/metal of some kind.
I'm in danger of looking like a Screamer shill at this point, but of the music I've heard via gameplay trailers, it's all this. Honestly, the game feels like a massive throwback to early 2000s car battlers with an actual budget behind it.

https://youtu.be/na0CIku32qU?si=Q7-TBazu4GM1SG6U

>>725016517
>Has the Namco twisty controller
Damn fucker you are dedicated. I've heard it's the best way to play Namco's racers on PS1.

>>725016517
>Namco had System 22 to prop up the Playstation with proper ports
>Sega had Naomi to prop up the Dreamcast with proper ports
Too bad arcades pretty much died shortly after.

Why is SRS so comfy despite being pretty simplistic?

>>725015854
You need blending accuracy set to high IIRC, then it literally transforms into a 1:1 port

>>725015065
Racing games are also super easy to make, and it's causing another problem, the tag on Steam is inundated with low quality AI slop.

>>725016726
You have no idea how good it is for ridge racer. It is also the god controller for wipeout. I'/ve found it to be kinda meh for need for speed and gran turismo but not sure how much of that is the games not having great support for it or age of my controller and the ability to centre being finnicky (like, Ridge 1 and rev will tolerate a 1mm deadzone, rage needs a 3mm to not pull to the left).

luv paul page's commentary

What exactly went wrong with this game? Why is it worse than 3?

>>725016581
It's like Ridge Racer, Blur (minus the powerups), and Split/Second somehow had a love child.

>>725015085
Do it. I did the same and it's still kino.

>>725017025
They learnt the wrong lessons from need for speed underground 2 and most wanted.

I played the GBA version of V-Rally 3. It was better than I expected.

>>725016905
Why was the main menu theme of this game so fucking haunting?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=00FqpzWW6GY

>>725017203
First game I ever rented and that scared the everloving shit out of young me.

>>725014935
I thought Carbon was still good. Not Most Wanted good, but still good.

What is the best racing game intro of all time and why is it need for speed 3?
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N6kPh02GfOk
Second place is demolition racer.
>collision is certain collision is certain collision its only a matter of when

>>725017038
It does have power-ups, but they're all resource based. Everything I've gathered through autistically watching every video I could find.

>Fill up the left meter by drifting, drafting, taking perfect corners
>This meter is what activates your boosts and shields
>Using these abilities feeds the right meter
>The right meter activates an offensive shove and, when full, "overdrive"
>Shields protect from shoves and overdrive, you're always given a visual cue when someone is gonna do either so you can always protect yourself if you have shields available
>When you activate overdrive, you're locked to full throttle, go over your speed limiter and destroy any car you touch for the duration, but if you so much as graze the wall you blow up and get put back 2-3 seconds on the track

>>725017060
Was Most Wanted the one with Maggie Q?

>>725015085
Don't do it.
I did and it aged like milk.
If you can't into racing, it's fine, but the rubberbanding and just general feel of the cars is awful.

>>725014493 (OP)
I'm not gonna lie they always looked boring to me unless they have some sort of x factor. I'd try f zero, not really gonna bother with daytona usa. I'll try wipeout, not gonna touch forza. I'm sure slightly more realistic racing games (at least ones based on real-life racing as a basis) are good and have good games with interesting mechanics but it would take a lot of sweet-talking for me to bother with any of them. They seem like they have no dynamicism.

>>725014493 (OP)
which shader?

>>725017365
Faggot opinion. Disregard.

>>725017340
>When the Lambo cop car enters
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D6ouHWP0KrY

>>725016026
I remember playng MM2 for the first time when my cousin brought it over. I cried when he left because it was the best game I'd played in my life up to that point.

Today I am going to autistically talk about the first five need for speed games with the respective pros and cons on each platform and suggestions on which version you should play under the following caveats;

1) Emulation will be assumed for console versions
2) Patches to make the games run on modern windows will be used
3) Where applicable any enhancements to round off rough edges (such as emulation overclocks) will be mentioned.
4) I'm not competing against nostalgia on OG hardware - that warm fuzzy feeling you get doing it old school is fine regardless of how good or bad a given version is.

I will dedicate each post to each game unless I blow the character limit.

FIST UP;

Road & Track presents The Need For Speed.
>available on 3DO, pc psx and saturn

The 3DO version is the original release and is notably different from the other releases which are all very similar. The 3DO version is much more of a driving game than a racing game, very much showing its roots in the test drive series

Pros
>a more relaxed game style than other versions
>no music
>more punishing on mistakes as it has a life system (crash too much and game over)
>arguably the most visually impressive version
>time trial mode keeps traffic so it is just you vs the road
>THE MOTHERFUCKING X-MAN
>only a head-to-head duel mode

Cons
>runs sloooooooooooooow and the only emulator worth a damn only does 2x cpu overclock which still isn't enough
>very low resolution out of the box - a 2x res scale from 4DO can be applied but then your cpu overclock isn't doing anything for performance
>most limited content by far
>no music
>digital controls
>no time of day options
>only a head-to-head duel mode, full grid of opponents not available

>>725017340
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fDPMKbN-tKo

PSX/Saturn
Both are basically the same game at heart so we'll lump them together.

Pros
>has music
>has the circuit tracks added along with the warrior PTO bonus car
>actually runs at something approaching a usable framerate and psx/saturn emulators are much more feature rich than 3DO emus
>has the bonus rally modes and the lunar rally track
>has the better looking time of day options

Cons
>No real analog support. The psx version supports the negcon but its kinda shit (tested on both emu and real hardware)
>time trial is more what you'd expect, just player vs stopwatch
>related to above that means to get traffic on you have to do a head-to-head race
>no x-man


Protip: at least in the psx version pressing down on the dpad for a few seconds hides the HUD - a feature that is in the rest of the EA made games.

PC
The special edition re-release has the most most content (only lacking lunar springs, though an unfinished version does exist in the code).

Pros
>actual analog support available both for steering and acceleration, but you have to fight dosbox as usual
>has time of day options
>has two unique tracks only found here
>has music
>best framerate out of the box

Cons
>time trial is more what you'd expect, just player vs stopwatch
>related to above that means to get traffic on you have to do a head-to-head race
>no x-man
>limited enhancement options due to being limited to the dos version. The windows version requires black magic to get working and isn't worth the hassle

OVERALL SUGGESTION:
Play the 3DO version but if that is a bit too raw play PC special edition.

Need for Speed II
>avilable on pc, psx

Playstation
Visually this sits inbetween the two pc releases - the normal software only release and the special edition which brings glide support (ooh, fancy hardware acceleration).

Pros
>visual consistency - straddling the difference between the pc versions does give it a unique look
>has the most colours available to cars
>has a few unique visual effects on the bonus track (smoke changes colour for example)

Cons
>cockpit view cuts your fps in half for fun so emulation overclocks are a must
>no real analog support - yeah supports negcon but is shit again

PC
This once again got a special edition re-release so that is the one to focus on.

Pros
>most amount of content - more cars and an additional track
>proper analog support
>is visually superior in a number of areas to the psx version, though inferior in others regardless of software or glide
>has rushhour cheat to get silly amounts of traffic spawning
>supports tracks being raced backwards
>has an additional physics mode called wild, which is essentially a drifty version of the arcade physics
>verok's patch allows for proper widescreen

Cons
>using the pc version means using verok's patch which is based on the glide version
>this means no cockpit view as it is a 2d element and the voodoo was 3d only
>need to pick between the software look or glide look, can't get the benefits of both

Protip: you can hide the HUD in both version - hold triangle on psx or press F5 on pc.
Protip 2: Using F1-F5 on the pc pause screen you can do some camera manipulation AND hide the pause menu for a proto photo mode

OVERALL SUGGESTION:
PC version using the special edition graphics (which verok's patch allows you to toggle from the launcher)

Need for speed III: Hot Pursuit
>available on pc, psx

Arguably the best game of this era and one with the most subtle differences.

Playstation

Pros
>has some unique graphical effects not present in the pc version like lights in the aquatica tunnel reflecting off the car roof
>has the nazca C2, which is missing from pc version
>car models aren't mirrored unlike the pc version
>has more diverse traffic vehicles
>a.i is notably more aggressive - especially in hot pursuit
>has a number of hidden tracks on available through cheat codes
>pc equivalent bullhorn cheat is on by default so the cops really are bellowing at you
>can set time of day and weather to random in the menu for some pot luck racing conditions

Cons
>while analog support is available with the dual analog the only way to get analog throttle/brake is bind it to the right stick which isn't that great
>still supports then egcon, support is still shit
>has less standard content than the pc version
>the hidden tracks are kinda shit - good for a few laps but you're not going back to them
>no cockpit view at all
>traffic in the atlantica course is one-way for some odd reason
>some audio effects are massively lower quality than pc - notably the sound of thunder is really crunchy (applies to OG hardware too)

>>725017484
nice.

PC

Pros
>using modern patch it has proper widescreen support and can handle modern resolutions
>runs much smoother out of the box
>proper analog support so you can use the triggers on your modern controller to get varied throttle/braking force
>more cars available
>has fancier smoke effects
>has option between vertex headlight lighting or projected headlights for night races
>mods avilable which opens up a world of possibilities
>cockpit view
>death star

Cons
>car models while a higher poly count are mirror so you get lamborghini twice on the back of your diablo and one of them is written backwards
>game engine is just a souped up NFS2 on pc, so handling model is more simple than psx
>vertex headlights are blatantly designed for 4:3 so you tend to get flickering at the bottom fo the screen when using bumper cam specifically at widescreen FoV
>projected headlights are basically just a gamma curve adjustment for the highlighted area, so you are just blowing everything out with the effect

OVERALL SUGGESTION:
A tough one really as you can't go wrong with either but these days I prefer the pc version.

Need For Speed High Stakes/Road Challenge/ whatever the fuck
This is going to be easily the most detailed post (no doubt will be spread over at least 2 actually) as this is where some truly major differences turn up and with the complete edition romhack for the psx version available we're going to really get into the weeds.

PC
PC version is at its heart a content add-on for NFSIII.

Pros
>best framerate out of the box
>proper widescreen support available
>proper analog support
>has all of the NFSIII tracks included, plus the new ones
>has higher detail tracks in many areas - the landstrasse track in the psx version has a windmill after the town section, whereas PC has a giant detailed castle
>features the el nino bonus car from III which is missing from psx
>has a cockpit view - now a fully 3D model which grounds it to the game world but is low detail compared to the old 2D overlays
>a million mods - with the high stakes mixer you can easily do car swaps and add ons. tracks can only be swapped out though
>has a longer career mode due to the NFSIII tracks
>higher sound quality

Cons
>is missing two unique bonus cars - the titan and phantom
>the McClaren F1 isn't as cool as the psx version uses the awesome longtail version
>has a different time of day for the night time version of dolphin cove - just a generic night look rather a gorgeous sunset (which you'll see in the next post)
>still based on the NFS2 engine and physics have been tweaked again but imo for the worse - cars turn SHARPLY if you let off the throttle a relatively small amount
>is missing the unique road hazards from the psx version
>career mode car upgrades do not affect the single race mode, so you can't get the visual upgrades for custom play
>the longer career mode is too long as it is mostly just padding
>worse car model quality
>subjectively I think the bonus porsche looks worse and the bonus camaro certainly is not as cool as the psx's bonus corvette

playstation

oooh boy this is where the fun begins

Pros
>higher quality car models
>features the phantom and titan (OH YEAH) bonus cars
>single race mode features unique road hazards that are randomly generated - things like logs/boxes in the road, an overturned traffic car surrounded by flares as a warning
>career mode car upgrades apply to single race mode
>features a playable police helicopter in test drive mode via a cheat
>has a better handling model than pc
>best version of night dolphin cove
>complete edition exists (more later)
>subjective but I think the bonus porsche looks cooler here and a corvette is always cooler than a camaro
>longtail F1 is sexy

Cons
>runs pretty slowly out of the box and gets real bad when lots of traffic and weather come into effect, but cpu overclocking combats this greatly
>makes an attempt at perspective correction because lmao ppsx wobble but this effect really doesn't look good at over 2x internal res and fights with your typical emulator perspective correction hacks, so high resolution play is visually wonky
>no cockpit view
>No analog throttle/brake support outside of a negcon as controls are selected from presets
>negon support still shit
>only new tracks, none of the NFSIII ones included
>less cars as pc version had some official add-ons
>pausing the game causes the music to restart when unpausing

Complete edition romhack;
Thi is a romhack that is basically fuck your region locking and enables nearly all of the regional variant content in a single iso.

OVERALL SUGGESTION;
PSX 6 days a week, pc for when you must have muh 4k and widescreen.

Atlantica my beloved.

Final game - Need for Speed Porsche 2000/unleashed

>available on pc, psx

The two versions are wildly different games with about the only commonality if they have a bunch of porsches in them. The PC version was made by EA while psx was done by eden games (of test drive unlimited fame).

Playstation

Pros
>has a few unique cars (like the 917K) not in the pc version
>tracks are visually the most different from each other
>has a bunch of multiplayer focused game modes like capture the flag
>tracks are all circuits

Cons - there will a lot as I do not look too favourable upon this version despite it being the one I actually played back in my day
>no option in single race to have just you and traffic on a course
>time trial is just reach each checkpoint before time expires rather than a timed lap
>runs slow out of the box
>handling is somewhat heavy and cars feel unresponsive under hard cornering and not in a good way
>no cockpit view
>lower quality car models

PC

Pros
>cockpit views for cars and they are higher quality than those in NFS IV
>higher quality car models
>subjectively the track design (as in layout, not visuals specifically) is better
>you can really feel the rear engine weight in the handling model, making some of those old turbos a real animal to drive even with tuning
>proper analog support
>proper widescreen support once patched
>cockpit view has the driver's arms and they actually change gear (and that satisfying thunk in many models)
>had a small number of add-on cars
>some mods available, but not many

Cons
>most tracks are just point-to-point which means if you want to do multiple "laps" you have to go back into the menu
>the monte carlo circuit courses aren't fantastic - 1 would've been enough
>moby dick is not as cool as the 917K
>subjective (and a minor one) the track visuals are not as visually striking as the psx tracks

OVERALL SUGGESTION:
PC version is the one to play as it is a better package and you can still cruise the tracks.


~fin~

>>725014493 (OP)
gran turismo is boring though

>>725017361
nah that was Undercover

>>725017817
I was emulating the ps1 version a couple of months back, and was shocked how gimped Black Forest felt in that version. Holds no candle to the PC version.

I've been playing TXR on and off. Finally beat CPM with an S14, which took several tries and a lot of luck. I do remember that during the early access period you basically had to use a maxed out RX8 to beat her, so I guess a lot of the bosses got nerfed.

I still don't GET Tokyo Xtreme Racer

>>725017484
Make a vid brodi, we'll watch it

NFS Heat with HDR on look great - especially when in the rural areas where lights are less - night gets DARK.

>>725018042
drive da car fast

>>725018042
You wouldn't get it

>>725018126
Well yeah, that's why I literally said I don't get it

>>725018126
conrad plz go and stay go

>beat game
>become world champ
>get told to kill myself
How did they predict /v/ all those years ago!?

>>725017773
The track voiceovers in 2 and 3 are pure porn.

https://youtu.be/0WgDjvlUHdM?t=144

>read thread
>"ridge racer 7 is boring and soulless and killed the series"
B-but I liked it a lot :(

>>725015821
because >>725015065 said the genre is dead. wreckfest is the "racing" game i wanted since i was 5 years old.

this is a buck on steam
anyone played it?

>>725018334
Whoever said that is wrong and should feel ashamed for spreading such lies.

>>725018337
Wreckfest was so close to being the real destruction derby 3 and wreckfest 2 looks to be a bit closer to that goal. I just want them to have a mode like wreckin' racing that DD does where damage matters, not position you cross the line.

>racing game
>30fps

>>725018337
Compared to how many top quality racing games used to come out, the genre IS dead. The top seller/best reviewed list is dominated with titles that came out over a decade ago. And many others that would have been in that area have been delisted due to licensing expirations. I consider DiRT 2 to be the best arcade rally game ever made, you can't buy it officially anymore.

>>725016269
I tried this once and wasn't really a fan of how it controlled. The webm is a good reflection of my experiences with it. Lots of spinning out and careening into walls because the handling is so slippery. I guess that's accurate to an RC car, but it's a little frustrating to play because of it.

>>725016226
>Hit me up on some banger ost games please
From what I've played thus far, pretty much anything from PSX-era Ridge Racer and Gran Turismo is gold. However I have no idea about individual song names.

>>725018491
25fps for the lads down under.

IMPORTANT QUESTION PAL PLAYERS: Does your car have a CD player player player player player player but you don't want to talk about it any more?

2012 was the last hurrah for DnB in racing games.
At least it went out with a bang.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TABCA-ZQe8M

>>725018673
I think you mean 2018.

It's updating.

>>725016337
>https://store.steampowered.com/app/2271050/RESISTOR/
Resistor is dead anon, check the community page.

What are some good arcade/simcade racers for PS2/3 aside from Burnout/NFS? Are the Ridge Racers from that era any good? I love RR4 on PS1.

ITT the most racist anons on 4chins.

>>725019005
Shox
Smash cars
wipeout fusion
midnight club
smuggler's run

https://store.steampowered.com/app/1890780/Szrot/

Anyone else looking forward to this?

>>725018976
Nothing says it's dead, it just hasn't received a Steam DB update in a while. That isn't uncommon for unreleased games. Silksong had multiple 1-2 year gaps between its SDB changes.

>>725019005
colin mcrae rally, Dirt 1,2,3
Gran Turismo 3,4 and 5
WRC Rally evolved
Flatout 2

Is Racing Lagoon actually a fun racing game, or are people just salivating over it because it looks pretty?

Now i'm not saying I bought a 4k 240hz oled to play midtown madness 2 to overcome my ptsd from playing it at 10fps on my family pc back in the day but............

>>725019136
Isn't this the game where everyone was clamoring for a translation, and turns out it was cuckshit

>>725014493 (OP)
im not racist

>say megalolz
>get stabbed to death

>>725014493 (OP)
>CRT filter
you need to dilate

>>725019136
It's a cool racing game, you get to mishmash parts of cars you beat in street races
The story is weird and the models are off tho

>>725016157
>Max Power Racing
Hoky fuck, memory unlocked. My friend had a copy and it was fucking terrible compared to the likes of Colin McRae Rally or Gran Turismo, but there was one track with a massive waterfall where you could launch yourself off the side of the cliff and crash into the lake which I remember thinking was really funny at the time. If I remember rightly, Max Power was a magazine that was sorta like Nuts/Loaded/Zoo but with cars.

>>725019164
I still remember cruising through Chicago in the first game, while trying to adhere to traffic laws as a kid, even though traffic AI would always freak out around you.

>>725019343
>press W to win
yaaawnnnn

>>725019403
I used to play like that in the first driver game. honking at police stopped at a green light would make them mad at you.

how is wrecreation?

>>725019618
bad

>>725019372
That is what max power is. The game is awful on every front - looks bad, plays bad and sounds bad.

>>725019691
couldn't be me

>ah herro
>ching chong chinaman

>>725017817
funny thing about nfs porsche car models is while psx has lower quality due to the platform its on, I found them to have more correct proportions than the pc version

>>725019739
based

Old artwork for games was great. Also:
>using cheats
you didn't beat the game

>>725015909
Nice to see DSF in archive, I snagged it on steam but cool to see it live on.

No love for TOCA touring on the ps1?

ITS JUST AN ANOTHER EXCUSE

>>725020075
Bitch put that burger on a plate. It might be my hooptie but I don't want a pickle on my rug.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UIPr4UyiZGE

>>725019801
I wonder if that was the localization team or if he was also ching chong ba ding dong in the Japanese original.

>>725020129
TOCA 2 is great, but the lack of a tank and pimp wagon is a downside.

>>725015894
That's definitely a unique problem and something is wrong with your PS2 specifically, the game plays perfectly fine on my system. Then again, it's the japanese version, not sure if PAL or NTSC-U would be different.
>>725015701
RR5 is such a huge upgrade over T4 in terms of driving. I also subjectively prefer its style to T4, but that's just my opinion.

>>725019058
>>725019120
Fanks

i used to think these games were braindead casualslop for normalfags until i tried playing them with manual instead of auto

>>725015909
GRID is kino

>>725020203
I believe that was how the characters looked in the jap original.

>>725020451
>she isn't old enough to remember when auto in games purposefully gimped top speed of cars to force players to git gud on manual

>>725020451
every racing game is better in manual, more inmersive

>>725020220
I was afraid that it's my PS2. It kinda stopped reading normal CDs for a couple of years before it somehow fixed itself. Guess I'll have to try and find a replacement drive at some point.
Already replaced the old fan and the battery, which required me to disassemble the entire console. What a nightmare.

the unsung king...

>>725020638
Yeah, PS2 is not user friendly at all. PS3 fat is much easier to take apart and put back together. But yeah, I'm sad to say it's probably your drive being fucked somehow.

>>725020638
your hard drive? your fmcb anon?

iirc need for speed 3 actually has different gearing depending on if you pick manual or auto based on the real car. I.e (picking a car out of thin air to use as an example, accuracy not important) the diablo was offered irl in a 4 speed auto or a 6 speed manual. Select auto in gamer and guess what, 4 gears. Select manual and surprise surprise you get 6 gears.

Shilling this shit RIGHT NOW.
It's one of the most creative and unique racing games I've ever played. And it's fun as hell.

https://store.steampowered.com/app/2262020/Exo_Rally_Championship/

>>725020148
No other game really captures the joy of car ownership than the first TDU

>>725021087
>we wuz dakar in space

I'm not ashamed to admit Need for Speed from HP2-ProStreet was a major contributor to my taste in music as a teenager. That and Tony Hawk.

>>725016337
i want to be hyped for Screamer but the gameplay just reminds me too much of the dogshit drifting mechanics from NFS2015

>>725021307
Just don't become a child molester.

Just a reminder for people in this thread that after recent Xenia Canary updates games like PGR4, Burnout Revenge and Midnight Club Los Angeles (traffic light bug still isnt fixed) run perfect

>>725021320
I don't know how NFS 2015 worked, but the closest analogue to Screamer's drifting from what I've heard is Inertial Drift. The right stick controls the back end of the car.

>>725017025
>brings back rubberbanding after MC3 got rid of it
>less vehicles
>vehicle variety is alot smaller, you have like 4 bikes for the entire game
>rubberbanding so insane it feels like the game actively hates you
>30 fps

>>725021394
>tfw drag racing a ferrari F50 GT while riding a hayabusa down the main straight of the track
this game was so soul-enriched that gamers who only play modern vidya wouldn't believe you

>>725015909
Is this you uploading anon? If yes then thank you for what you're doing dude, Ive been using your uploads for months. Just downloaded Lost Planet too recently.

>>725021394
MCLA works on my machine

>>725020652
>2 sec too slow
>0.3 sec too slow
>0.1 sec too slow
>0.01 sec too slow
>0.00001 sec too slow
>0.00001 sec too slow
>0.00002 sec too slow
>suddenly beat mission with 3 sec to spare
I'm too retarded for this.

I really enjoyed the first Redout game. Shame the second one was so bad.
Ballistics is my favorite racing game, and nothing has ever come close to it.
Is there any indie game that plays similar to that in the slightest?

>>725021593
What settings are you running?

>>725021606
>>725020652
what game is this

>>725021641
A real ps3 lol.

>>725021606
The trick for BNG is boosting - the platinum time trial times REQUIRE you to murder your sheild for speed.

>>725021506
>>725021394
>>725020982
>When Stricken dropped and you locked in
https://youtu.be/I77mjesUbkw?si=yi2iUxWpuI5rFUBd

>>725021593
I love the PSP version. Its basically Midnight Club 3 but asset flipped into this game.

>>725021698
The wipeout 4 we never got.

>>725021486
>how NFS 2015 worked
Like shit. It had automatic streamlined drift in corners and it was the only way to play the game

If you know what this is know that for a while - as the devs on wipeoutzone told it - the average lap count to beat was about 85.

Played through Need for Speed Porsche Unleashed again. Tried to find a game as good but failed to find any.

>>725021875
I tried beating that fucking lap time for two straight days before giving up. I simply wasn't good enough even when following online guides. You had to be pixel perfect at every fucking corner and jump.

>>725016581
the physics look worse than the DOS screamer games

>>725016269
Based Re-Volt enjoyer

>>725022026
Unreal Engine is a lighting engine, not a game engine. You're supposed to enjoy the shadows and pretty colors and lights not gameplay.

>>725022026
The only relation it has to the old games is the name. The characters and story for example are literally handled by an anime studio they've partnered with. The original game was also discount true to life with offbrand cars, not sci-fi Japan in futuristic cities. I don't think it's fair to say "worse," it's just outright different across the board. Milestone probably just wanted to save pennies by reusing the Screamer brand name which they already own, instead of filing for another trademark.

All right, racists. Pitch your perfect racing game idea.

>>725021983
Fun fact: the time in game isn't the best time he set during testing. His best time (which I forget what is was exactly) was considered too hard to put in the final game.

ok gg
gn boys

>>725022304
Need for speed 1-5 greatest hits ultra turbo graphics edition.

>>725022304
Burnout 3 and Revenge remakes with destructible enivornment.

>>725022074
I need to delve more into the custom tracks people have made.

>>725022304
Need For Speed with realistic power-ups like guns, grenades and mines
Full on vehicle destruction
Enviromental chaos like in Split Second
Does have police chases

>>725022414
>Burnout 3 and Revenge with the car sound design of Paradise
I'd fucking cream. Paradise has a lot of problems gameplay-wise, but the car audio was that perfect over-exaggerated 'angry.' They sounded like an animal was under the hood wanting to claw its way out.

>>725021724
>>725021394
For me? It's
https://youtu.be/xk2CvKcJnC4?si=HOmrrPoHjwDqiW0B

>>725017717
>>725017759
>no mention of pursuit mode differences
The PC version is my favorite just for this reason alone.
>PSX: You're a solo cop, here's a racer, arrest him within time limit on an otherwise empty track. Repeat 10 times.
>PC: You have a squadron of 5 cop cars, arrest two racers before they finish the race, you can jump into any cop car at any time while AI handles the others, you can also give orders to other cops for spike strips and roadblocks or to join you as wingmen. Basically the same mode as when you're a racer but with the roles reversed.

>>725018414
so no one played this shit?

>>725022304
A modern GT4 that focuses more on nuggets.

>>725022304
Need For Speed Underground but it takes place in 1950's Los Angeles and your a greaser street rat tuning up his old 1930's rustbucket into a hot rod and eventually you progress into 50's cars and then into new exotic European imports

>>725022680
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2FnD-JKXRVU

>>725022787
Problem with that is now most nuggets are crossovers and suvs.

>>725023064
Yeah there wouldn't be any cars made post 2010. Probably earlier.

>>725021394
Reminder that the treatment of Bizarre Creations regarding the release of PGR4 is what domino'd the studio into being killed.

>Halo 3 came out September 25th 2007
>Microsoft set PGR4 to release October 2nd 2007
>Bizarre begged and pleaded with Microsoft for a larger gap, even just 2-3 weeks, citing logical reasons that
>A) Halo 3 is going to decimate their sales
>B) It's cannibalizing a game you (Microsoft) have invested money into
>C) An extension later into October or even November would still net them the holiday season
>Microsoft refuses to see reason
>Bizarre is fucking pissed after this and no longer wants to work with Microsoft
>Go to Acfivision and make Blur
>Blur doesn't break gangbusters despite being a great game
>Activision shutters Bizarre

Had Microsoft simply given BC those 2-3 extra weeks, the studio might be around today.

>>725019264
ok zoomer

>>725022846
We need A.I so we can resurrect saki and have him do music for the next good NFS.

FUCK YOUUUUUUUUU

>>725022789
Cool concept but Id rather have NFS spanning through multiple time eras. I think something like that would be even better. You start in 50s up to current and open world map,cars and such would change depending on time era.

Man I was creaming my pants as a kid when I got to play NFS1. Good times.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4D6ViP_uUrA

>>725023491
So the career mode of NFS Porsche but open world?

>>725022304
Hill climb monster championship.*

*now with more than just pikes peak!

>>725023491
>open world
please cease and desist

>>725023572
That was how cars sounded to every 10 year old boy.

>>725023153
Blur was always destined to fail when it was going to be released around red dead redemption (and I suppose competition from split/second).

>>725023572
What sort of track name is this?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7gr8JpDNyME

>>725023587
Yeah something like that where not just cars but entire world changes,it wouldnt have to be open world. A fact no racing game tried this is weird especially since this is simple evolution of car classes many racers did but applied to whole game not just cars. Horizon seasons but instead of weather car classes and entire map/stages change.
>>725023663
It doesnt have to be open world. I said open world because unfortunately normgroids love that shit and they wouldnt even look at stage based racing game nowadays.

>>725020148
This anon fucks the top models after they done shopping
Also FUCK the hitchhikers
Who the hell they think they are pussying out after 2 seconds of but demanding a time limit for the ride
Bitch you should be greatfull I took you with me for FREE

>>725023976
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dm7jEA3frY4

>>725022304
A racing sim like Project Cars 2 but with the career actually simulating a racecar driver's career with time progression
>start out in the 70s/80s/90s/2000s
>first drives you get are single make and minor championships
>eventually you can progress to premier championships
>during a season you can compete in multiple championships, like a real driver would
>as seasons go on the cars and tracks you race on change as they did in real life
This formula would work with literally any racing discipline and would give devs an actual reason to implement historic racecars, instead of just padding content

>>725024207
Where's the bit where team orders demand you place behind your teammate and you lose the driver's title?

>>725021721
picrel is busting my balls

>>725014493 (OP)
i don't really get the point of racing games when gta exists

>>725024261
Another trick is pitching your craft up and down with the track to maintain speed as elevation changes.

>>725018414
It's Pure except good. I liked it a lot. Also the soundtrack is absolutely crazy if you're into metal.

>>725023153
>Blur doesn't break gangbusters despite being a great game
It released the same month as Split Second and the same year as GT5, NFS Hot Pursuit and Modnation Racers
It was doomed to never getting any audience

It's raining cats and dogs out there. I should know, I just stepped in a poodle!

I like my cars like I like my nuts: crushed.

>>725014493 (OP)
this is my most recent racing game related screenshot I have

>>725021368
I don't go on /mu/. How big of a fuss did they make a couple weeks ago when that dude got shanked to death in prison?

>>725025019
I'm pretty sure everybody agreed universally that he deserved it.

I'm not one to avoid art because of the artist, but trying to rape a fucking baby makes Lost Prophets just distasteful to listen to.

>>725014935
I bought GT4 at Gamestop for a few bucks, but I regret it. I'm probably never going to finish 3, and now I have 4 as well.

>>725024976
>john turismo

>>725025118
The rest of them reformed under a different name last I checked.

>>725014493 (OP)
been playing motorstorm on psp

>>725014935
>Burnout Paradise

>>725014493 (OP)
I approve of this message

>>725014935
ridge racer 4 is only remembered because they added a waifu to it
it wasnt a good game, ridge racer was always trash

>>725014493 (OP)
is driveclub playable on shadps4 yet?

It would be nice if there was a way to get widescreen in the first need for speed game, but it isn't possible iirc.

>DOS version is lmao DOS, take it or leave it
>the win95 support that came with special edition is completely fucked on modern windows
>saturn gonna saturn
>psx version with the widescreen hack breaks z sorting so traffic and a few roadside items appear visually offset to their actual location, breaking gameplay

>>725025379
The waifu turned up in rage.

>>725024976
what's the difference between GT5 and 6?

jet moto > ridge racer

>>725025893
Mr Jaffe, plz.

>>725014493 (OP)
there is no nortubel racing game

did anyone play wrecreation? It looks low budget but I could go for a burnout-like

>>725023663
There's nothing wrong with open world in racing games per se, both Midnight Club 2 and 3 are 10/10 games. The problem is developers are too incompetent (and lazy) to design something as tight.

RARE HERO

>>725026160
You'll note that angel studios are the only dev team to do open world right multiple times. You'll also note who made midnight club.

>>725026158
Its dogshit. Dont waste your time its not even worth a pirate.

>>725015909
I bought the first grid on release and had no wheel or controller so had to play with kbm. My friend who was some self-confessed gran turismo "expert" begged me to play online with him so I did. When he tried to ram me off the road on the final lap he fucked up and rage quit. If you're still out there Aaron, which no doubt you are, suck it nerd

>>725014935
Burnout Paradise is fucking dogshit.

>>725026158
It's barely a step-up from their first attempt with Dangerous Driving, which is to say both are fucking terrible.

>>725026224
Yeah I know that. For example Black Box can't/won't do that, they had to put fences everywhere.
Also not as good as MC, but Burnout Paradise map was still good imo.

I don't always play midnight club II but when I do my neighbours know.

>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eQLHwds-2JE

>>725026440
AHEM, paradise sucks because I get lost going from my kitchen to the living room in my house so having to learn a city where each race ends at one of 8 points is dogshit, see >>725026401

>>725026565
Burnout Paradise is bad because racing isn't racing, the optimal route splits you off from the other AI cars meaning fighting doesn't happen. Marked Man and Road Rage are the same mode. Stunt mode was just abusing the southern area of the map constantly. And crash time honest to God seriously expected you to start and get the high score on every single road, of which there were like 140+, keeping in mind getting the high score for each road took like 10+ minutes.

Which Forza game for someone who never played any?

I like:
>long comfy tracks and sunsets like OP webm
>JDM cars

I dislike:
>long menu animations
>HEY CHAMP narrations and dialogues

HP2010 looks and sounds nice, like it probably has the best sound design of any racing game I've ever played, but it's really frustrating to play. Every single car feels like you're driving a yacht and it's clear you're expected to drift through any corner sharper than a gentle curve. The police time attack races where you're not supposed to even brush a guardrail are a nightmare, especially when they stick you in a car that's two tiers above what you're used to. The game demands flawless driving in a way I've never experienced before, which kind of contrasts hard with how it also expects you to be aggressive and reckless in races.

AG racers alright here?
I kinda wanna share my opinion about picrelated
I'm kinda underwhelmed by it compared to Fast RMX since there are barely any tracks and the fusion mechanic kinda just makes the cars more bland.
It looks great though and the jumping does make it more fun, but half the new tracks seem to barely take advantage of it so it feels almost more like a tech demo than a proper new game

>>725026694
Forza Motorsport 2

>>725026679
Sounds like you are a shitter to me.
>t. p12 diamond owner

>>725026757
HP2010 is my fav burnout game.

>>725026565
I can only imagine how absolutely rectally buttblasted analdevastated these people would get if they tried MC2.

>>725026679
Guess that's why I liked it so much, because I never played a Burnout game before it and was just expecting a racing game with crashes, not crashing game with races.

>>725026786
Being good at a shit game doesn't make the game good

95% of people don't know how to steer with an analog stick

>>725026694
God damn this shader is nice.

>>725026786
I Platinum'd my license within the week of release on the 360, literally one of the first 500 to do it.

The game is shit. If you're seriously going to argue turning race mode into a glorified hot lap thanks to the open world not being reigned in once by using NFS style chevron barriers, you never liked Burnout. Not even Revenge is as despised as Paradise, and Revenge gets some people pretty damn angry over its changes.

>>725026679
Honestly all Burnout games suck because they were designed for dudebros first video game full of driving assists and mainstream music to strengthen the bait factor.

>>725027087
>My arcade racing game where I have infinite nitro and smash into my opponents at 200mph should have real life mechanics and simulation physics
Do you hear yourself?

>>725027156
Where did I ever ask it to have real life mechanics and simulation physics? As someone who has played more than 1 video game I'd like to do more than just watch the gameplay unfold in front of my eyes. Some of you people can only think in two dimensions it's scary to think you're out there somewhere.

>>725016337
>Screamer
press X to drift and zoomer tuning aesthetics are pathetic and embarassing

>>725022304
make a huge ass midnight club game using all the maps from the ps2 era with a few adjustments, add a few more maps, a shitload of cars and call it a day.

>>725027357
Press X to drift is exactly how many older boomer racing games worked out too.

>>725027357
It's not press X to drift. It works like Inertial Drift, you have to perfectly control the angle with the right stick. It's literally what you seem to be implying you want.

>>725027419
And back then I ignored them just the same as I do with the new ones

>>725027087
You've clearly never even played the first Burnout so why don't you do yourself a favour and shut the fuck up

NYOOM

>>725027331
Anon, you just said
>designed for dudebros first video game full of driving assists and mainstream music to strengthen the bait factor.
Bitching about "driving assists" can't be taken as any way other than "I want realistic handling."

>>725027357
>zoomer tuning aesthetics
Don't make us laugh, half of the tuning options in NFU are abhorrent and I love the 00s tuning aesthetic

>>725026679
what bewilders me most about Paradise is how many racing modes got cut from the previous games
all the game has is point to point races, no circuit or eliminator races, i especially miss the cool modes Dominator introduced like Maniac, that should would have been 10 times better than stunt

>>725026913
what the fuck... I just tilt it sideways

>>725014935
EXCUSE ME, goat coming through

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M5OnXvPCmq0

>>725027465
That webm clearly shows the car hanging sideways at the press of a button with no regard for intertia. I don't care if it includes babby's first balancing control so players can pretend they're doing something, it's trash.

>>725027496
I have. The controls don't even feel like they respond like they should. How much and how quickly I can turn is all restricted to "safe amounts" and it feels like all of my inputs are interpolated through a smoothing curve. If the driving doesn't feel good it's already over, similar if there was a delay to mouse movement in fps game it would be obnoxious.

Or if you meant to say: you didn't play the game when you were a child and develop unhealthy blind attachment to the IP... yeah you're right.

>>725026872
BP is literally MC2 done wrong

>>725027753
>That webm clearly shows the car hanging sideways at the press of a button with no regard for intertia.
Go play Inertial Drift and stop being fucking stupid. There is no button press, the car cannot drift without input from the right stick. You're having a tantrum because the player actually managed to maintain a solid drift on a giant circular off-ramp.

>>725027561
>Bitching about "driving assists" can't be taken as any way other than "I want realistic handling."
No wonder you like the game as much as you claim if this is how you think. They knew their audience and it shows.

>>725027585
Had Paradise simply done something like create circuits with 2-3 laps ala pic related, it would have been a lot better.

>>725026913
>20 second clip of two corners in a sim
cool now show me a full race driven like that
also that doesn't work on most of the games out there because inputs are getting filtered by the game anyway

>>725026694
>Which Forza game for someone who never played any?
>I dislike:
>>HEY CHAMP narrations and dialogues
Then none of them. Forza Horizon 3, 4, and 5 are all basically the same game in different settings.
https://youtu.be/_3VK5r1Lkrg

>>725027982
its funny with people comparing to MC2 in this thread but MC2 wasnt retarded with its open design and for that reason had mid race checkpoints you had to pass to stay in the action (the exception being unordered races)
Had Burnout Paradise done it that way it would fix the biggest problems with the racing

>>725027982
There's also a literal racetrack in that area, it's literally never used by the game, it probably shows up in freeburn but who the fuck knows, I barely played it online

>>725027847
>I have. The controls don't even feel like they respond like they should
AKA "it doesn't respond like how I believe all racing games should handle so it's bad."

You're the dumbest nigger I've come across in a long while. Literally asking for performance stagnation. This is akin to saying all shooters should play like Call of Duty or whatever the fuck is your favorite.

>>725028038
https://youtu.be/k3BJnf3qBgI

>>725028042
FH5 absolutely shit the bed with the pronouns & prosthetics. Even worse than 4. Terrible map that wasn't fun to drive on.

>>725027891
I'd still take MC2 done wrong over no MC2 at all. As I already said, almost no one can do open world map in racist games.

>>725028165
look at the size of that dude's neck

>>725028128
Yeah, the hidden oval destruction derby track. It's good for literally nothing, not even useful for online challenges to my memory. You smash the barrier needed for the collectibles and that's it. Someone modelled and put that in for zero gratification.

>>725028138
No. It doesn't respond how games should. It had protective layer added on top of it to help people who never played video games to play it. It's like aim assist, aim smoothing, autocombos... Or if DMC only had automatic mode turned on by default and you couldn't turn it off. And it is me who is asking for stagnation?

>>725028297
Your neck would snap in half in an F1 car if you don't train your muscles.

>>725028342
>No. It doesn't respond how games should. It had protective layer added on top of it to help people who never played video games to play it. It's like aim assist, aim smoothing, autocombo
Except it has none of this, this is just your interpretation of the game's mechanics that you're painting with the weirdest brush I've ever seen. The game demands you drift to get around corners at high speeds, so the base steering isn't useful outside of long curves. This isn't like "aim assist" at all, it's the fucking opposite. The game is demanding you make an input or you eat shit. Meanwhile you're comparing it to auto-steering or auto-braking from Forza Horizon in the disability panel.

>>725028206
Why are you so full of brain rot that you put >pronouns & prosthetics
As you your first criticism and
>Terrible map
In the racing game discussion.
Are you that fucking stupid that pronouns and customization, the thing that it's one and done is a bigger problem in a racing game, than the fucking map? The thing that you're always interacting with when you're racing?
Go outside you dumb cunt.

>>725028165
>posts a PR time attack
I said a full race, I want to see someone wrestling a stick like that for the length of a full race session where you can't simply restart due to a spinout

>>725028528
You don't drift around corners. The game drifts for you. Try to imagine the gaming having a mode where you need to hit some cones or collect coins. It's ass trying to aim anywhere in Burnout games because it has smoothed to hell input curve.

>>725028743
>the gaming
the game*

>>725028743
>You don't drift around corners. The game drifts for you
You have not played Burnout, this has been a lazy attempt at getting (you)s. Fuck you, kill yourself.

>>725028606
I did it to annoy you specifically out of 8.2b people.

>>725028842
You are just one of those people who cannot feel the difference between high hz and whatnot and have their low iq beliefs. It's fine, you like Burnout after all.

>>725029335
it's more like you're a retarded queer going into racing games expecting them to all handle a specific way. that reeks of autism.

also that webm is a drive away, as in the car, naturally after tweaking from ass bumping another car at what was probably 150kph isn't totalled. but you'd know that if you played paradise.

>>725029335
>game tells you not to touch oncoming traffic
>touch oncoming traffic anyways
>"WOWWWW I DIED FOR NO REASON!!"

>>725029501
It happens because the game just lazily compares the cars velocity vectors angles to each other. You can drive full speed into someone but as long as they're facing same way as you, you just go through them. But if you even hit 1 pixel of someone going the different way it's a crash.

I don't exactly have good proof for having played the game. But I also remember here that once you land your steering is locked for a second. It goes through like an adjustment animation upon landing and you cannot steer for the duration. Not sure if that would even been enough here but still, this game is full of these safety features.

>>725029602
But you can drive 200000000000000kmh to someone and be fine but if you drive even 50kmh to someone and touch a pixel you die, don't you think thats a bit poorly done?

>>725029931
>You can drive full speed into someone but as long as they're facing same way as you, you just go through them
You mean traffic checking? Burnout Paradise allows aggression vehicles to traffic check as long as they're not boosting. You're literally complaining about arcade game mechanics and using realism as a basis.

>>725026694
Horizon games allow you to cruise in open-world maps, 1 is the most unique out of the bunch
Forza Motorsport 4 is the best entry in the mainline franchise
2 is good too

>>725026565
It has no racing, you just go point-to-point and blast through all the shortcuts ignoring the AI. Also traffic checking ensures that there is absolutely no danger on the road and you can just plow through the stages without a care in the world.

>>725029931
>>725029335
Have you come into this thread just to prove to random strangers to prove to people outside of your parents that you deserve those disability cheques?

>>725030225
>Also traffic checking ensures that there is absolutely no danger on the road and you can just plow through the stages without a care in the world.
Only aggression vehicles can traffic check and only when not boosting. Did you just read my post to another anon and assume Paradise has traffic checking as a base mechanic for all cars?

>>725030246
Turning into personal attacks isn't exactly helping your point.

>>725030348
You don't really deserve anything more. I've just read your drivel over the past five minutes and it's the most pseud midwit shit imaginable

>Um Burnout is casual shit made for normies because it has the equivalent of FPS aim assist *snort* here's a webm of me doing a 360 over a jump and blatantly getting mad about it, creating a webm of the moment and calling it RNG

>>725030328
I beat the game. You almost never even have to spend time on the road.
I can't believe there are people out there who actually thought Burnout 3 was too difficult so they had to have a game where they interact as little as possible with its mechanics to enjoy it.

I'm new to the genre. Any racing games with music as cool as picrel's?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z7TKCoAgXNY

>>725030447
>I beat the game. You almost never even have to spend time on the road.
Genuinely am I fucking tweaking right now? I'm one of Burnout Paradise's biggest haters but what the fuck are you even on about? What were you gliding around Paradise with wings on your car?

>>725030439
The webm doesn't have anything to do with that. It's because people are trying to deny the facts by claiming that I never played the game. I just happened to have those webms because they looked funny and I wanted to show them to my friends at the time.

This post >>725028743 Is partially correct. Some cars, specifically the Hot Rod and Criterion Racer, do have auto-drifting. A handful of other cars do too but I can't remember their names.

Poster is still a faggot and wrong about everything else.

t. played burnout way too much as a kid.

>>725030468
Not racing but you should play Ace Combat 2.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LYcPtbl8W20

>>725030585
>It's because people are trying to deny the facts
Your retarded interpretations not facts, they're some of the most hallucinating AI prompt-tier posts I've seen today. Like Grok calling outer space "wet."

>>725026694
Forza Motorsport 1 has the OG gran turismo vibe.. it has great engine simulation and good audio, it also has the best customization. it also has the best tracks and the best iteration of fujimi kaido

Forza motorsport 2 is boring, none of the races are fun and the engine simulation is horrible

Forza motorsport 3 has quite decent presentation and the best audio but the driving is just bad and many of the races have way too many laps

Forza motorsport 4 is soulless and has bad audio

rest arent even worth talking about

>>725015065
Good thing there are 30+ years of GOOD games you could actually play, last weekend I played Eve of Destruction for the first time and it's a blast, Wreckfest 2 could learn a couple things from it

>>725030770
Never played this series, but the first 10 seconds of that video convinced me to do so. Which game is a good entry point?

>>725030832
People who argue against me even agreed on the things that I've said. It's just that they try to hold them as "actual good mechanics" and not having them would be "making every game the same". Yes, they are actual good mechanics if you intention is to create a game for people who do not play video games but that's about it.

>>725030881
Ace Combat 7 is the most accessible.

>>725028342
>>725028743
>>725029335
>>725029931
>uhhh bro the game doesn't let you play it like has a protective layer like it actually steers for you like dude it has these secret features that take away your control dude
Pure autism. You remind me of the schizo who used to make daily obssessive threads about Fromsoft hiding a game within their game lol

>>725031098
>Opinion once again masquerading as fact
I am bored of you.

>>725031120
thanks anon but I don't care about accessibility. Is such a late game really a good entry point? Standalone story?

I'm at the point where I simply do not give a fuck about 3D racing games anymore. We should only have three types: Top-down, isometric and horizon chaser. It's weird we almost had a retro racer revival similar to what happened with boomer shooters, and it just stopped after a few games (which were shit)

>>725014493 (OP)
how come theres no GT with a realistic delorean

>>725031182
If you got hold on the developers and asked them what was their thought process on making it like that what do you think that the answer would be? Would it be A) to capture bigger audience to capitalize on the racing and extreme sports craze at the time or B) I don't even know what to put here.

mario kart world > all of these games

>>725030847
>Forza motorsport 4 is soulless and has bad audio
???
It's basically the same as FM3 but slightly better, what the fuck are you talking about dude

>>725030542
Sure fucking felt that way.
Once you learn the layout of the city, there's no reason to play along with the AI. You can just take the same routes every time.
And I think the developers realized this so they shoved takedown events and whatnot in there to justify the title and the crash effects.

>>725031308
because that's just a meme car

forza is trash, faggot game for xbox faggots
iracing is the only real racing game that exists

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SQsgKPKK7Bw

i only hope they will let you adjust camera, so your car doesnt slide to sides of the screen so much.

>>725016863
>the tag on Steam is inundated with low quality AI slop.
you can say about all tags because steam has no quality control

>>725030881
Any is as good entry point. But they do have differences

>AC1
Barebone arcade game, fun at some point down the line if you get really into the series

>AC2
Lacks follow-target camera mode that was introduced in AC3 but is a really fun game on its own. Carried HARD by the amazing OST that was never revisited, the 80s/90s jap fusion rock with some electronica tracks like link related

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tLBWd3om47s

>AC3
Heavily moving into sci-fi with its Y2K aesthetic, it also moves into full on electronic soundtrack. Which is amazing. Gameplay is refined here and is as good as later games. Jap release has branching story line and has a fan translation. Unique vibe.

>AC4/5/0
PS2 trilogy, you can just group them along, they are great. Soundtrack is more of an orchestral/electronic mashup that you have probably seen posted here over the time.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=80XAJKqRU9k

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uL4RBZV7Wjc

>>725028606
Why do you care?

>>725031317
Probably "everybody liked the way these games played for the past four fucking titles so why would we change it, you dumb niggerfaggot?"

>>725022304
>A NFS / codemasters game
plot is:
>near future, human driven cars/ICE cars are on the brink of extintion as they are banned and actively hunted down and scraped
>MC doesn't like this as his beloved foxbody handed down from grandpa is flattened in front of his eyes so he seeks revenge/change to the corps/gov
>MC looks for help, turns out he isn't alone, there are lots of people from diferent segments (muscle/jdm/rally/etc) who also thinks the same, so he needs to get rep at their groups to get their support
>plot happens so bla bla bla
>early game is hard, because when you have nothing, you can only get a clapped out camry so you'll have to race local junkies to get enough cash to get into a segment
>each segment have their own environments, like highways, touge, gravel rally, tracks, drag and so on
>world map could be either a horizon, the run or standalone tracks, whatever works the best
here is the fun part
>there will be two versions of the game
>one with arcade handling and other with hardcore sim handling
>arcade version will use GRID 2 arcade physics
>sim version will use Kunos simulazioni physics
>three whole soundtracks to choose from
>boomer rock/metal
>rom di prisco/dnb/jungle
>eurobeat
>car tuning could be limited depending on budget, but there will be some
>extras like vr or getting out of the car and walk around depends on budget
>dedicated servers so modding is allowed

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aVQSX32e9Pg

>>725031448
no its comfy
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xTn8CDeL37I

>>725021394
Or you can just get an Xbox 360 (I got my Winchester for $70 - the price of one AAA slop game), set up Bad Update (or JTAG/RGH it if it's possible and you can use a soldering iron) and you're good to go.

>>725031515
Thanks for the spoonfed anon. I think I'll start with 2, looks neat and I'm a sucker for rock music

>>725031538
I was talking about the first one where they started doing it. Of course they would keep doing the thing that works. That is how games, movies, music, and pretty much everything end up with samey profile. If something worked before, it must work now, surely.

>>725031393
exactly... its the same as 3 but the presentation is worse, the UI is worse, and the audio is worse.

>>725031475
Game looks so fucking cheap once you look beyond the post-processing.
>Every stage asset is a boxy rectangle or some stock Unreal model
>Zero thought put into track environments (Screamer 1 felt more alive)
>Anti-soul gas right in front of you everywhere
>Cringe blur effect and constant camera sway hiding the abysmal sense of speed
>Cars literally look more plastic than Hot Wheels Unleashed
I mean really, why make a hypercar JDM techno tuner game and set one of the courses in Death Stranding? What are these devs on?

>>725031664
>GRID 2 physics
I'm glad I'm not the only one who liked them. Going faster while drifting is super fun. Only problem in that game was the AI being stupidly fast in straight lines but worthless in corners, so the straighter the track the harder it got.

Gran Turismo 5 also had the Skid Recovery Force setting that gave you free grip while sliding, so you could rip into every corner sideways without brakes and drift around them at lightning speed. It completely broke the game but man was it fun.

>>725031872
In Burnout's case, yes, this is very true. The core gameplay remained unchanged from 2 onwards, and with every release it got glowing reviews and rave fan reception.

>>725031968
>>725031664
Unfathomably based. GRID2 had some of the most satisfying drifting/handling around. So what if it was not particularly difficult to pull off. Shame the campaign mode wasn't a bit better.
Particularly pairs well with eurobeat

>>725031968
dropped the campaign the first hour because of this and only played multiplayer ever since
Rip grid 2 servers ;_;

>>725031937
I really do believe some of you have become addicted to the dopamine response from being the most nitpicking faggots imaginable. I am seeing none of what you're whining about. Fucking
>anti-soul gas
Do you read what you post? Don't even respond to me.

>>725016157
Why has no chink controller company made a modern negcon clone? Precision of a wheel at like half the cost and a fraction of the size of a wheel.

>>725032067
But how can something easy be satisfying?

>>725032119
kek
>anti-soul gas

>>725032119
>Don't even respond to me.
I just did. And I'll do it again!

>>725032067
Crazy how GRID 2 bombed any goodwill it was going to get by removing the cockpit view. Like it didn't even matter what it did at that point, the fanbase noped out.

Burnout Paradise is dogshit

recommend me some racing game with simple track editors where I can race against bots
I miss moto racer 2

>>725031937
I don't understand why they don't seem to care that the stages don't match the cars. Look at SSX Tricky, the courses are what made that game what it was. The characters are zany, but the slopes you ride on are even zanier.
I think they really need to completely rework the environments in Screamer to make it actually interesting. Right now it's just grey and brown with flat, wide roads while the game is desperately trying to make it look fast and exciting with special effects.

>>725017025
Nothing, it's the peak of the series. Has the best handling, racing and customization, and still has one of the best cockpit views of any racing game

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dJtwKm2Q4k4


>>725017081
UG2 has a really meh open world due to being one of the first games in the genre, and in Most Wanted you can't even free roam for 5 minutes without the cops harrassing you (I still love MW tho), MCLA doesn't suffer from any of that so I'm not sure what you mean

>>725021487
>brings back rubberbanding after MC3 got rid of it
are you trying to tell me that MC2 had rubberbanding? because it doesn't

>>725033093
>>725031937
its got colorful levels though, it seems to be a mix of neon nightlights, favellas, wasteland and industrial plants. seems fine to me.

>>725027913
>inertial drift
fucking laughable post 2010s NFS tier drift handling
people were making fun of how shitty NFS2015's handling was and this is easily worse

>>725016269
>>725022074
Based voltchads
>>725018542
Play RVGL, use Arcade setting, and use 4WD cars
The game is arcadey but there's still actual physics with a learning curve, you can't just hold the gas and hold left/right to take corners perfectly while never braking.

When turning, get used to tapping left/right to make adjustments instead of holding. For sharp turns, first let go of the gas then brake then turn.
If you try to do a sharp turn by letting go of the gas then holding left/right you'll likely spin out. Same for if you hold left/right and hold the gas.

Get into the habit of tapping/holding brake when cornering or committing to turning left/right without holding the gas (especially if you're playing on keyboard).
Sometimes you want to drift/powerslide, to do that, quickly let go of the gas, then tap brake, then tap left/right.
When you're in the air and about to land, don't suddenly hold left/right as you'll likely spin out. Just keep holding the gas or if you need to make a sudden turn, let of gas -> brake -> turn

Also don't be afraid to use the reposition, there will be plenty of times you get meme'd by items and it's faster to reposition instead of trying to accel back to normal.
Easy cars to use
>Rookie
Dr.Grudge, RC Bandit
>Amateur
RC San
>Advanced
Panga TC, R6 Turbo (Unlock by getting all stars in Medium difficulty tracks in Practice)
Worth to go out of your way to unlock R6 if you don't like Panga TC
>Semi-Pro
Adeon, Zipper (Stars on Hard difficulty tracks)
>Pro
Purp XL, Toyeca (Stars on Extreme difficulty tracks)

>>725021487
>brings back rubberbanding after MC3 got rid of it
What? MC3 is notorious for having some of the worst rubberbanding ever, especially in the later stages of the game. In MCLA it's not hard to get a good lead
>less vehicles
>vehicle variety is alot smaller, you have like 4 bikes for the entire game
Quality over quantity. All the vehicles look fantastic and have an amazingly detailed interior view
>30 fps
MC3 also runs at 30fps on PS2

Rubberbanding is a good mechanic
It encourages quick reflexes and consistency

>>725031968
>>725032067
grid 2 was one of the only arcade games that did weight transfer, intertia drift and overall it didn't felt on rails, it all felt organic.
The other game that does this well and I still play it regularly for racing is GTA SA

>>725031693
No, it's an underpowered, shoddily-built piece of shit. The DeLorean was only used as the iconic Back to the Future time machine because they wanted something that looked cobbled together.

>>725033417
A moderate amount of rubberbanding is fine. Not like this tho

>>725033303
https://ctr4ever.joora.fr/standards.php ;)

>Thread was absolutely fine
>Somebody mentioned Burnout Paradise
>Thread goes to shit

>>725033703
skill issue brodie

>>725033703
lmao what the fuck is this

>>725033270
But look, it's a really wide, really flat smooth road. And I bet the game will have no tight corners where you crash if you enter too fast, and you're able to simply drift through everything.
You need something to make the game feel fast and dangerous, and VFX can't fix the sense of speed when it comes more from the idea that you can actually go too fast rather than pure visual stimulus.

>>725033807
Emulator game speed fuckery.

>>725033858
Anon, it's a car battler with an on-demand instant kill ability when you generate enough resources. The roads need to be wide to give people some ability to swerve you. There's not a single good racing game I can think of that involves car combat where the roads are paper thin.

>>725033703
Was replaying MW recently, lost my shit here.

>>725034094
They don't need to be paper thin, dingus. They just need to have just enough dynamics to make driving around them actually feel interactive and meaningful. If you never have to think about your speed and racing line, it's going to feel slow and boring no matter how many crazy effects, bloom, blur, wacky UI elements and FoV tricks you implement.
And that's not even considering the visual design of the tracks themselves, they're simply not up to the same standard as the car designs and other visual elements. You're driving through Death Race 2008 when you should be driving through Ghost in the Shell.

>>725034802
I dunno, I saw countless moments in that footage where the player didn't take a good racing line and constantly fucked up their corners because of it.

>>725033858
i agree, the tracks could be more fun. shortcuts is what makes tracks fun for me. this is what made burnout revenge tracks so good

>>725020148
TDU driving sucks ass

>>725024976
>john turismo

>>725017817
Loved this game. Excellent soundtrack.

>>725035092
better than the other games in the series

>>725022304
my dream racist game is modern flatout with snowrunner mud simulation so the track starts ok but later is muddy and harder to drive on. and no, wreckfest sadly isnt this (its not even a good flatout successor)

>>725033386
Some of the quirks of the controls are also based on the drivetrain your car uses. RWD and even 4WD cars tend to kick their backs out more easily whereas FWD cars tend to have significantly more grip. FWD cars also seem to handle slick floors like the Supermarket 2 freezer better than others.

>>725025762
>cloud/time of day tech is way better in gt6, solar system and stars are accurate so night skies look right
>tesselation so car models look pretty much accurate,premium models were used as a base for gt sport
>updated laserscanned tracks
>streamlines menus and progression so you don't get stuck forever in menus
>car physics are smoother,improovements to suspension etc
But GT6 kinda takes away the autism and charm of gt5 and endurance events are gone

>>725022447
I was surprised when I noticed that the community cars in the launcher's online profile were actually pretty well-balanced. Even if the paper stats looked bloated, they usually came with major weaknesses in handling, size, or wheel placement.

>tfw too shit for anything more sim than forza/GT
Doesn't help that I'm a controller player, but I tried Project Cars 2 again and it just doesn't feel that fun to me. Maybe I just have shit taste, though, because I've been enjoying FM7 recently and I didn't hate FM23 when I played it on Gamepass a few months ago.

>>725026872
Fun trivia about Midnight Club 1, Rockstar illegaly went on ride alongs with actual street racers filming them, the footage from the intro are from actual street races.
How they survived as a studio is beyond me

>>725015085
There will NEVER be a boss intro as hard as this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pIK49GtpM60

>>725036250
my dream racist game is resident evil 5

>>725014493 (OP)
Wake up anon you're in a coma

>>725036304
FWD and RWD do have their advantages and you're right about Supermarket 2 but I think for a new player that's struggling with the handling and physics, it's probably best for him to stick with 4WD cars for a while.
Learning all of the quirks of the cars is fun but I think it only really becomes fun when you know how to play the game. For a new player, it's probably just really annoying sliding all the time and feeling like you have no control over any of the cars

whatever happened to the Point A to B racers instead of track/circuit racers?

wipeout 2097 > wipeout 3

wipe my ass with both of those

>>725037156
What about feeling like you're at the mercy of the AI blasting you with weapons?

>>725015909
>Juiced 2
A shame the PC version is a port of the awful PS3 version with a bunch of broken physics ontop of that
The Xbox 360 version is the best out the bunch and I would say emulate that

>>725035324
>choker
you just know this slut wants to be brutally facefucked while wearing that clown makeup until she looks like the joker

>>725018624
I see you Feeder bro
The zoomers born after 2001 may not have a clue but I do

>>725038808
basado

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qOuQNgV8o3Y

>>725014493 (OP)
I drive a car in real life.

>>725033703
Isn't this amplified because of modern CPU clocks?

>>725038413
Getting item meme'd can happen on any car you use, regardless of drivetrain to be fair

>>725038689
not every girl is like that anon

>>725039159
>not every girl
stopped reading there
every single woman on earth is an opportunistic whore and would let gigachad thundercock do the weirdest shit with her if she could get away without anyone ever finding out

>>725018624
>>725038808
>>725038950
For me it's still Just A Day
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=asjkm-uzh80

>>725018624
ALL BY MYSELF

>>725039281
and also if it increased her social/financial standing

>>725021514
Lost Planet 1 or 2? Does 2 have any working multiplayer at all?

>>725016337
I really hate the way the car drifts out in the opposite direction that you are turning in. Shit's so obnoxious.

>>725040087
that's a given constant that doesn't require being mentioned since everyone knows it by default

>>725021394
Is the sound still fucked in PGR4?

>>725014935
So is there going to be a ridge racer 8 or not? There was a leaked build on Switch a while ago and it looked like dogshit. The formula is already well refined by RR7's time for the modern era, somehow they stepped backwards with every iteration after that. Can't they just do an RR7 on steroids with the vibes and builds? Maybe cooler progression through the campaign, secret bosses, remixed tracks, more OPUS style intense races?

>>725040206
First game. Second one doesnt even have proper single player campaign it was designed purely as co-op/multiplayer game.

>>725035513
Cruising along Cote d'azur with a 356 speedster while intense trance techno is playing was just peak immersion based driving game
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aD_2mWKnPw8

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N_Kv3EjRbPs

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M0QRIFT5Brs

>>725016364
>I miss when racing game OSTs were 40% trance, 40% DnB and 20% rock/metal of some kind.
you and me both king

this is a little "late" for my tastes but it fit the vibe so well for the map of san diego and just being dark as fuck into weird panicky tribal shit where you're thinking on the fly what route to take
kino

>>725041275
durr
https://youtu.be/ilC0W46Tt1Q?si=Y86XJ8vBwdFhMUjw&t=1562

some absolute bangers in here to make your stereo quake your house apart

>>725040275
Isn't that how drifts work? You swing the ass out and counter-steer?

Have you beaten TXR/Tokyo Xtreme Racer, yet?

gran turismo 5's stock car races told me there's more to them than just oval vroom turnleft, sorry for ragging on you

>>725041926
>automatic
you didn't beat the game

what would be your top ten racing games for the PS2? the only game ive played is San Francisco Rush 2049 for the N64, I'm willing to listen your recs.

>>725014493 (OP)
>that lod change at 00:04
>he didn't enable always highest quality opponent cars

>>725017025
Rubberbanding is what killed this game. Racing devs will never learn will they?

>>725041934
its criminal that EA didn't give this car a proper sequel, like what the fuck were they smoking. barely gets used in MW too

>>725041926
I uninstalled after 30 minutes. Driving physics sucks and it's all just straight roads.

>>725042539
gt4 > power gap > burnouts, nfs etc

>>725016517
>PAL

I feel bad for you bro...

>>725030468
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jFX_PDClWoM

Love me SEGA rally but I like ridge racer type 4 the best.
Outrun 2 also has pretty good music but it's quite different from SEGA rally. Though mitsuyoshi makes a comeback in last wave (sega rally / daytona composer)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PHX__495eiM

>>725043240
Well it did get trashed in the opening moments of Carbon. Depending on how you interpret things though, the one in Heat may or may not be the same car repaired.

>>725014935
are we talking OSTs or games themselves?

I'm working on an OST for a fake 90s racing game, and I want to upload it with a fake manual detailing the tracks. Anyone have any visual ideas they'd want to see in a fake manual, or racing circuit ideas they think would be fun to include?

>>725046773
dont put your music on the internet, ai will just steal it and use it to learn how to make fake soulless music

Get a wheel bros

>>725047009
I make music for fun, and I enjoy sharing it with other people. I refuse to enjoy life less because some slop addicts out there might use it to hasten the destruction of their own brains.

>>725015854
Looks fine to me on stock setup on an older version of PCSX2 v2.

>>725041681
>Isn't that how drifts work?
No?

>>725041681
what you say is more or less correct
but you don't sort of laterally shift into the opposite direction like mariokart 64 does is what he was getting at

i.e. you drive in parallel with a straight railing on your left

and if you steer right you don't magically shift to the left when you steer right into that railing on your left


speaking of drift, can anyone id the gray car?

>>725048432
>but you don't sort of laterally shift into the opposite direction like mariokart 64 does is what he was getting at
So it's a semantics argument based on realism vs. arcade.

Since Screamer is blatantly going down the path of arcade, it's not really an issue because it's a mechanic and not just an aspect of driving.

>>725048585
it's not even an argument dude, i'm not even that anon

racers can do whatever the fuck they want, but there are certain mechanics i'm not a fan of (for every game)
the lateral shifting thing is one for me, on rails drifting like some arcade racers or RR, there are examples where i don't mind it but being able to steers/pitch/yaw midair with a fullsize car like a motorcycle can often be offputting in something slightly more grounded in reality and make the cars feel too light

i like it in games like f-zero or with the wings and focus on jumps in san francisco 2049, it's all good

>>725048981
>it's not even an argument dude, i'm not even that anon
I never said or implied you were.

>>725033067
It's a late reply but V-Rally 2 on PS1 gas a pretty incredible track maker, especially for its time

>>725049086
>So it's a semantics argument based on realism vs. arcade.
i thought you meant my argument wasn't pure or something
i'm a genuine esl so please bareback with me

Gave Burnout Paradise a fourth chance yesterday and finally deleted it. Such a shitgame. The mapdesign is unbearable.

I don't "get" racing games. Some you gotta brake, some you don't? Some you gotta follow like a specific line that no one tells you about. Some you don't brake at all like F-Zero, you're just supposed to know that mashing accelerator is good.
And what's with changing gears? No one teaches you about that.

>>725048432
>can anyone id the gray car?
Z20 Soarer

>>725049265
No I was referring to the other anon talking about how he hated how the drifting looked.

>>725049293
I want to say the soundtrack is great, but it's literally the same as Dominator which is a better game. So I get to actually race and fight at the same time while listening to Killswitch Engage.

https://youtu.be/Kbj3NxvrNqU?si=lh4jB8-ySUwXFkwO

>>725046773
A circuit that goes around and into a once abandoned mall rebuilt as a racing track, including its underground parking garage.

>>725046773
Anything related to pikes peak, that was pretty big in the 90s. Monster trucks too. Over in jap it was all downhill mountain drifting and extreme tunerism.

>>725049293
yeah it's a weird one

atleast in singleplayer i had a rubberband around my controller to keep the camera raised up all the time, and i had to often hit start to check my map all the time wich ruined the flow

if you didn't you would just wreck yourself in corners you can't even see
the formula didn't really work

meanwhile midnight club 3 everything did work, it's easier to see where to go and you have time to kinda check your map or get guided watching over the skyline seeing the sky laser lights
I never got to play another open world racer with checkpoint that clicked as that game desu

>>725049458
thanks a bunch man
i got to hitch a ride on nikko circuit in an older soarer and i love those square lowered cars like you wouldn't believe

i love how they both look badass fat and low yet also sleepy grandma car at the same time

>>725015065
i've said it before;
most people into racing games moved on from casual racers to simcades or sims. burnout or NFS don't provide any sort of challenge for me
Forza Horizon is probably the only casual racer with active MP that's alive (got about 9k people on steamcharts rn, while Forza Motorsport has a whopping 500ish)
Wreckfest apparently never broke 4k concurrent players on steam. seems to average a few hundred players. luckily for wreckfest, it has an EXTREMELY dedicated playerbase because there is nothing on the market like it
i don't think zoomers play racing games, so the genre has failed to attract a new generation of players, and the current generation of racing game players have outgrown shit like burnout and need for speed.
i think the only other arcade racer that's done OK in recent year is Tokyo Xtreme Racer and that one doesnt fucking count because weebs will buy and play ANYTHING with anime slapped on it. they are some of the most vapid, braindead consumers out there. Cyberpunk had a HUGE resurgence just because there was a shitty anime about it released.
you could re-release burnout, slap anime girls in it (not even animated, just images in the menus) and weebs would buy it en masse. they're mindless

>>725049404
Well, the first thing you need to grasp is that there is a scale of realism in racing games that very much determines the mechanics and expectations from the player. Here's a simplified explanation.

>Kart Racer
The actual bog standard racing mechanics are super simple. Where the difficulty lies is in the additional mechanics like bunny hopping, item pickups, knowing how to cut certain parts of the track.

>Arcade
Often use real cars and locations, or facsimiles of them, but still leaning into fantasy. Often has boost mechanics and a heavy focus on drifting. Usually throws in another gimmick like excessive destruction or even guns.

>Simcade
Often leans more into simulation than arcade, but this is the most "blurry" of the descriptors because you end up with games like Race Driver Grid 2008 that have none of the mechanics from the above Arcade description, yet has insanely arcadey physics, but it also allows you to disable assists that make the game way harder, and the veneer is exaggerated realism.

>Simulation
What it says on the tin. This is the stuff trying to emulate real life 1:1. Cars are intended to behave as near-perfect analogues to real life. The most difficult games in the genre next to anti-gravity.

>Anti-Gravity
All the veneer of Arcade and even Kart Racers with the ball busting difficulty of simulation. These games expect flawless pixel perfect input from you or you often just eat shit.

>>725018414
Bought it for 1 eurobuck. Thanks anon

>>725050076
Tokyo Xtreme Racer works because it's insanely high quality considering the budget it has. The devs made it with a box of scraps and yet it mogs 99% of racing games that came out in the last ten years.

EA could release a full remake of Burnout 3 and it would sell gangbusters. People are desperate for a new Burnout, like a cock hungry slut getting teased relentlessly.

>>725014493 (OP)
Sega needs to re-release the 2000s Outrun games

>>725050076
>i don't think zoomers play racing games, so the genre has failed to attract a new generation of players, and the current generation of racing game players have outgrown shit like burnout and need for speed.
This isn't true at all. Burnout Takedown is like Top 10 for the most emulated game on PCSX2.

reminder to the NFS boomers that rom di prisco released a new album in september
https://romdiprisco.bandcamp.com/album/fields-of-verisimilitude

>>725042518
manual sucks on a properly tuned car

>>725021072
It does, NFS4 does the same thing IIRC. The example I always remember is the Camaro and Corvette which match how IRL they had 6-speed manuals but a 4-speed slushbox in the auto.

>>725047552
its pretty cucked to let the tech jews profit from your creativity without even paying you

I'm almost done with Super Woden GP 2. Have anyone else played it?

>>725022304
TDU1 but the driving isn't shit and the roads aren't made of Lego. that's all I want.

Deluxe edition of this is 18 bucks, I'm most likely gonna buy it.

>>725031393
nostalgiatards aren't worth engaging with

Paradise is fucking trash and proof why "open world racing" doesn't work

>>725051325
It's trash but the open world isn't the problem. See >>725027982

If the Race Events were structured like this, where you went up to the node, and it created an actual circuit, the game would have instantly went from a 6/10 to an 8/10.

Road Rage should have been on enclosed circuits too, while Marked Man should have been open world.

>>725021394
>PGR4
Wait, you can emulate this now?

>>725051628
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NtE9bU5Bswk

>>725051681
Holy shit this made my day. Do you know any places where to find PGR4?

>>725051838
No idea anon, I just knew it was able to be emulated.

>>725050519
emulation is hardly an indication of the market at large, i stand by my point
>it mogs 99% of racing games that came out in the last ten year
lol. lmao even
although from what i've seen of it, i'd enjoy a playthrough, but i'd never come back to it. i like rally games desu; they're MUCH more replayable

>>725052215
also meant for>>725050429

>>725052215
>lol. lmao even
Name ten good racing games that aren't sim shit from the last decade.

>>725052537
>sim shit
goalposts: moved

>>725049524
>>725049750
thank you, I can work with these

>>725052626
TXR is not competing with sim shit.

Sim shit is the same game over and over with a different brand slapped on. I could play a sim shit game from 2015 and it'll feel near identical to a sim shit game released today.

>>725050429

>>725043495

>>725018042
You drive for your new waifu, Polaris sama

>>725051838
what do you mean where? torrents

>>725050948
ps2 version has havok physics that handle lego roads better. give it a try

What racing game has the best sound? I've played countless ones where cars with powerful engines sound like golf carts.

>>725053658
probably the earlier Forza titles or the 360 era Codemasters games

>>725014493 (OP)
play F-zero GX ;)

>>725053784
sex with lily flyer

>>725052537
there aren't 10
wreckfest
hot wheels unleashed is pretty fun
there's also a janky slavic flatout clone called "trail out" that's surprisingly good
and i'd rather play all of them over that weeb trash

>>725054205
>there aren't 10
Thank you for proving my point that TXR mogs the vast majority of shit that came out in the past decade.

>>725018042
Treat it like a fighting game hybrid where dirty tricks like crashing, shoving, using pedestrian vehicles and blocking are consider valid strategies. Its setting is a Japanese highway scanned into vidya. Each racer has their own bio and spec. Some racers are legendary in a sense that their cheating fucking faggots that will out accelerate you, wall ride or grid turn, and out speed you if you dont fuck them early on. Some anon will tell you it's a straight line race, but fails to tell you that doing will make you crash into a pedestrian car.

>>725050553
I had no idea. Giving it a skim it has a synth/industrial vibe which I can dig.

FUCK TUNERS
>ea circa '99

Also this made me adore the porsche in game.

>useless rally car irl
>god machine for no reason in game

>>725014493 (OP)
I HEAR YOU'RE A RACIST NOW FATHER

>>725056548
Paddy, pls

anyone know any good (realistic?) racing games on android? multiplayer preferably

>>725022304
Cannonball Run in the style of Redline with agravs, funny cars, motor chariots, rice tractors, nitro trucks and conventional autos tuned to their absolute maximum.

>>725056679
>realistic
>on a phone

I'm one genius of a driver.

>>725056679
Top of the mornin to ya sar

>>725056998
yeah? what's the problem?

>>725057328
its almost midnight you dunce

>>725054320
>Treat it like a fighting game hybrid where dirty tricks like crashing, shoving, using pedestrian vehicles and blocking are consider valid strategies.
People in the PA conversations aren't too fond of those...

>>725056679
I don't know if it's multiplayer but Real Racing 3 is like the only one.