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Anonymous No.725020115 [Report] >>725020214 >>725020415 >>725020449 >>725020824 >>725020967 >>725021041 >>725021237 >>725022164 >>725022758 >>725022825 >>725023441 >>725023485 >>725023560 >>725023896 >>725024356 >>725024464 >>725025239 >>725025267 >>725025937 >>725026270 >>725030197 >>725030392 >>725031376 >>725031526
This has never bee debunked.
Dedicated servers offer the smoothest experience between player and game, cries against "SBMM" are mid players demanding to club newbies, or parasocial server circlejerks.
Anonymous No.725020214 [Report] >>725028326 >>725028758
>>725020115 (OP)
Why is the image of your post clearly pro-matchmaking while your text is pro-dedicated? Are you a fucking idiot?
Anonymous No.725020217 [Report]
soulless (top) vs soul
Anonymous No.725020415 [Report]
>>725020115 (OP)
Now post matchmaking 60 seconds into the game you dishonest sack of crap
Anonymous No.725020449 [Report] >>725022919
>>725020115 (OP)
you can just go to a different dedicated server, you don't have to play 24/7 mario kart with a tranny admin
Anonymous No.725020673 [Report]
Dirty disgusting smelly sticky Ranknigger hands made this thread
Anonymous No.725020824 [Report] >>725021134 >>725026487
>>725020115 (OP)
Skill based matchmaking is entirely random, the system can never take into account the important factors that determine success. All of the examples given for why it works are of people intentionally breaking the system completely by queuing with others or smurfing.
A matchmaking system just can't value your time or enjoyment the way dedicated servers can, most matchmaking systems are already taxed when trying to put together a 5v5, let alone a 32v32 player match.
Anonymous No.725020967 [Report]
>>725020115 (OP)
>top
Leaving is penalized
>bottom
You can leave and join a different server, or host your own
Anonymous No.725021041 [Report] >>725021708 >>725022351
>>725020115 (OP)
>Joins ''HARDCODE TEAM DEATHMATCH 24/7 NO SHOTGUNS''
>cries when theres no shotgun
is being illiterate just a common zoomner trait?
Anonymous No.725021134 [Report] >>725024070
>>725020824
serves you right for playing multiplayer slop, you could just play something 1v1 like a fighting game and never have any issues with matchmaking.
Anonymous No.725021237 [Report] >>725022298 >>725024015 >>725024162
>>725020115 (OP)
>top
>when the match is over everyone is gone and never sees eachother again

>dedicated server
>can come back in a few days and say hey to the regulars
Anonymous No.725021708 [Report]
>>725021041
no its a normalfag trait.
Anonymous No.725022104 [Report] >>725022253 >>725024675 >>725025280 >>725028245 >>725029508 >>725030116
I think the top is better, most of the bottom are just people in cliques who will never be friendly to newcomers or casuals even if the server is marked as "noob friendly" even then there's some animosity against non-regulars for those servers.
Anonymous No.725022164 [Report]
>>725020115 (OP)
do you have the original image?
Anonymous No.725022253 [Report]
MM with no dedi means the game is dead outside US/EU and is dead in US/EU at next FOTM release or next release of the game as everyone moves on. Perfect for making more money.
>>725022104
no one cares that much m8 no need to make up silly shit like this and besides, you can just join another server kek
Anonymous No.725022298 [Report] >>725022509 >>725022671 >>725022702 >>725024062
>>725021237
>haha whoa nice to see you again guys so here we are playing this game again all of us together haha
just shut up and play creep
Anonymous No.725022351 [Report] >>725022476 >>725022581 >>725024119 >>725025264
>>725021041
>no, you can't just le use a thing in the game, Okey???
Why are boomers so retarded?
Anonymous No.725022476 [Report]
>>725022351
If you don't like the rules of a thing don't join. This is basic masculinity.
Anonymous No.725022509 [Report]
>>725022298
It's usually shorter and pettier
>hi anon
>hey
Don't make it weird bro
Anonymous No.725022530 [Report]
>say word
>top: money completely stolen
>bottom: money stolen a little bit
Anonymous No.725022581 [Report]
>>725022351
join a different server then?
>NOOOO I DONT WANT AGENCY OVER MY OWN CHOICES SPOONFEED ME WAAAAAAH
Anonymous No.725022671 [Report]
>>725022298
>t. autist
Anonymous No.725022702 [Report]
>>725022298
>human connections sure suck, am I right??
This poster can barely be called human.
Anonymous No.725022751 [Report] >>725022824
the only thing I don't like about dedicated servers is the incredible ammount of drama happening at any time and for some reason people are supposed to care if autisticfag420 has beef with pissman2 and they have a pinned thread in the forums where they go at eachother. I don't care about their delusions of grandeur, I just wanna play the game and maybe have semi-permanent teammates
Anonymous No.725022758 [Report]
>>725020115 (OP)
>OPs post doesn't even match his picture

lmao you retarded loser
Anonymous No.725022824 [Report] >>725023050
>>725022751
quick real talk
i enjoy both, the anonymity of matchmaking and the camaraderie of dedicated servers
Anonymous No.725022825 [Report]
>>725020115 (OP)
Matchmaking only games up to today are trying to solve problems that dont exist in dedicated servers.
Anonymous No.725022919 [Report]
>>725020449
no, op actually has to do so. which is good for the rest of us.
Anonymous No.725022964 [Report]
theres nothing inherently wrong with either system but currently both systems are very corrupted.
Anonymous No.725023050 [Report] >>725023202
>>725022824
this pretty much
for me the best deal was when in tf2 or battlefield 4, people wouldn't quit the second the match ended, instead everyone would just load into the new map and you'd still have the same teammates or maybe you got scrambled and now your previous teammates are your enemies. Good times, I miss tf2's quickplay
Anonymous No.725023202 [Report] >>725024205 >>725025510
>>725023050
matchmaking just needs to be a sort of "quickjoin a server" function.
devs fucked up when they started creating instances for 1 game and destroying them immediately once the game is finished.
Anonymous No.725023441 [Report] >>725023476
>>725020115 (OP)
Listen you sissy liberal cuck
SBMM is dead so get over it
Even CoD has shelved SBMM after 6 whole years so you and all the other hugbox cuckholds are just going to have to deal with that and 3 more years of based president
Anonymous No.725023476 [Report] >>725023594 >>725024074
>>725023441
you know cod uses EOMM not SBMM
Anonymous No.725023485 [Report]
>>725020115 (OP)
the only people that prefer matchmaking are cheaters who get banned from every single dedicated server they join due to cheating
Anonymous No.725023560 [Report]
>>725020115 (OP)
If matchmaking were good, it would need a penalty for leaving.
Anonymous No.725023594 [Report] >>725023734
>>725023476
Tomato, tomato
Anonymous No.725023734 [Report] >>725023891 >>725023960 >>725024072
>>725023594
not really, one is balanced to give you a "fair" challenge and pair you with similarly skilled opponents
the other is meant to keep you exactly at 1 W/L ratio so you'll get addicted to keep playing the game
Anonymous No.725023891 [Report]
>>725023734
Potato, potato
Anonymous No.725023896 [Report]
>>725020115 (OP)
>matchmaking is good if we pretend it's problems don't exist, and if we also pretend every dedicated server is a furry 24/7 2fort
man you'll go to any lengths to avoid saying "i just want to play without putting in any effort myself to do so". it's fine if you feel that way, you're just lazy and wrong. no reason to be lazy, wrong, and a liar.
Anonymous No.725023960 [Report]
>>725023734
You know full well that the "mid" players in OP aren't crying about SBMM implemented softly in the way you describe
Anonymous No.725023967 [Report]
I miss gregorposting
Anonymous No.725024015 [Report]
>>725021237
>can come back in a few days and say "FUCK, that one guy is online, god I pray I'm on his team"
this is how it is personally even though I know a lot of players feel the same about me
Anonymous No.725024047 [Report]
Matchmaking ruined TF2 and Quake Champions
Anonymous No.725024062 [Report]
>>725022298
t. alien imitating human interaction
Anonymous No.725024070 [Report]
>>725021134
>Yes, I love being placed together with some random guy in New Zealand and hoping the netcode favors me
If I'm gonna play fightan, why would I do that online?
Anonymous No.725024072 [Report]
>>725023734
Sounds like the same to me
Anonymous No.725024074 [Report] >>725027564
>>725023476
eomm is a form of sbmm dummy
Anonymous No.725024119 [Report] >>725024280 >>725024574
>>725022351
>join server with NO SHOTGUN in the name and tags
>literal first thing you see is "NO SHOTGUNS" in the motd
>try to equip the shotgun
>"WTF WHY CANT I EQUIP THE SHOTGUN???"
>other players tell you to join a server that allows shotguns
>"NOOOOO I WANT TO USE A SHOTGUN!"
>ok, join a server that allows shotguns
>"NO NO NO NO NO WAHHHHH!!! I WANT MY SHOTGUN NOOOOOOOOOOW!!!!"
Anonymous No.725024162 [Report] >>725030207
>>725021237
Good i dont want new friends, im 40 with a new born. Fuck socializing and meeting up with people i dont know. If kids want to make friends they can go outside like i did when i was a kid.
Anonymous No.725024205 [Report] >>725024263 >>725024363
>>725023202
that was tried and created nothing but problems.
nobody wants to hit the 'play the game' button and be met with a server splash screen forbidding half the shit available to you. well, I would take it as a challenge to get kicked as quick as possible but that's not typical behaviour. top laffs when the whole server is mad but nobody online has the ability to remove you
Anonymous No.725024263 [Report] >>725024342 >>725024363
>>725024205
I think it should only connect you to servers running stock settings, anything is changed and its excluded from the quick play pool
Anonymous No.725024280 [Report] >>725024364 >>725024753 >>725026460 >>725029210
>>725024119
>ok, join a server that allows shotguns
"this was the only server on the first 4 pages that wasn't full"
how do you respond
Anonymous No.725024342 [Report] >>725024457 >>725024468 >>725024593
>>725024263
this incentivises server owners to disqualify their server and keep it contained and cozy. eventually you're left with nothing but developer-ran servers which they stop hosting as soon as their next game is out
Anonymous No.725024356 [Report]
>>725020115 (OP)
dedicated servers work well when the game is popular and you have enough choice to do whatever you want.

matchmaking is no fun allowed and turns everyone into a tryhard.

i'm decent at the games i play that use dedicated servers. if my opponents are newbies, then i go easy on them and do silly stuff and we both end up having fun. if you can't do that it's because you're one of the tryhards and you probably aren't having fun even in matchmaking either. every time i've played matchmaking people are always so fucking angry lmao.
Anonymous No.725024363 [Report] >>725024468
>>725024205
this >>725024263
Anonymous No.725024364 [Report] >>725024646
>>725024280
Just try to queue for those servers then so you can join in the first empty slot.
At least then you'd know what you're getting compared to matchmaking slop where everyone has their own rules that they want to enforce.
Anonymous No.725024457 [Report] >>725024538
>>725024342
have local settings for what servers qualify when you press the quickjoin button
Anonymous No.725024464 [Report]
>>725020115 (OP)
bottom seems like really annoying faggots
Anonymous No.725024468 [Report]
>>725024363
see
>>725024342
Anonymous No.725024538 [Report] >>725024615
>>725024457
then it's not really a quickjoin button anymore, it's the "i'm feeling lucky" google button with parameters and people will either browse the server list or not play
Anonymous No.725024574 [Report] >>725024667 >>725024831 >>725025693
>>725024119
>other players tell you to join a server that allows shotguns
there is no populated server that allows shotguns
Anonymous No.725024593 [Report] >>725024795
>>725024342
I don't see that as an issue, there will always be a market for servers running crazy shit. The most fun I had in counter strike was 64 player servers
Anonymous No.725024615 [Report] >>725024697
>>725024538
it's quite literally is still a quick join button.
Anonymous No.725024646 [Report] >>725024772 >>725027301
>>725024364
normalfag expected to wait in a queue? not a chance the shareholders allow that when 'other game' has a working 'play now' button
Anonymous No.725024662 [Report] >>725024702 >>725024841 >>725030254
Guys, I think!
Anonymous No.725024667 [Report] >>725024847
>>725024574
Go populate it.
Anonymous No.725024675 [Report]
>>725022104
>Self induced social anxiety.
You think and care too much about what others think about you.
Anonymous No.725024697 [Report] >>725024789
>>725024615
but one that is no longer a suitable replacement for a quickmatch button
Anonymous No.725024702 [Report]
>>725024662
Nice!
Anonymous No.725024753 [Report]
>>725024280
Anonymous No.725024772 [Report] >>725024868
>>725024646
>normalfag expected to wait in a queue?
yes
Anonymous No.725024789 [Report] >>725024949
>>725024697
it's actually an expanded quickmatch button that still has all the basic functionality of a standard quickmatch button
Anonymous No.725024795 [Report]
>>725024593
the issue is that the conversation is about implementing quickmatch with dedicated player-run servers. i love wacky servers. but investors and suits do not.
Anonymous No.725024831 [Report] >>725025356
>>725024574
if that the case then the shotgun is universally banned for a reason.
Anonymous No.725024841 [Report]
>>725024662
we are!
Anonymous No.725024847 [Report] >>725025337 >>725025406 >>725025526 >>725025952 >>725028965
>>725024667
>just stand around in an empty server for hours instead of playing the game
Anonymous No.725024863 [Report] >>725025124 >>725025137
>let game companies have complete control over everything
>take the game seriously, it's very serious and important
>game companies should be able to just pull the plug on a game and prevent you from playing
>you shouldn't be able to create more content for the game
>you should play the game like it's your job like the pros
Anonymous No.725024868 [Report]
>>725024772
every time this happens, blizzard share value drops until it's fixed or preorders for a new game open up
Anonymous No.725024949 [Report] >>725024974 >>725025009
>>725024789
a sword can be used to spread butter, an airplane can be used as a car, too, but if i asked for a car and received an aircraft, there would be problems.
Anonymous No.725024974 [Report] >>725025168
>>725024949
now you're just acting retarded
Anonymous No.725025009 [Report] >>725025236
>>725024949
if my grandmudder had wheels she'd have been a bike
Anonymous No.725025124 [Report] >>725025615
>>725024863
FYI i'm not arguing against dedicated servers. i'm playing devil's advocate and explaining why devs don't care about concessions like "well you could use a quick-join button" or " just wait for a space to open up in your chosen server".
dedicated is superior but it's financially the wrong choice in the world we currently live in.
Anonymous No.725025137 [Report]
>>725024863
just read the 2783 page terms of moneystealing and record a video of yourself genuflecting before a printout of the UN sustainable development gender goals to access your humiliation ritual goyslop
Anonymous No.725025168 [Report] >>725025232
>>725024974
>Y can kinda be used as X so Y can replace X, no problem
is the retardation, here
Anonymous No.725025232 [Report] >>725025318
>>725025168
good bye saarjeet, it was a bad discussion
Anonymous No.725025236 [Report]
>>725025009
>'if my quickjoin button has parameters, it's a matchmaking button'
Anonymous No.725025239 [Report]
>>725020115 (OP)
For me it's how top forces you to have 50% winrate.
Anonymous No.725025264 [Report]
>>725022351
>stand in front of extreme construction work office
>"here we only do EXTREME CONSTRUCTION WORK with no machines and you have to carry 100kg bricks every minute"
>enter extreme construction work office
>"hell why is there no crane? this job is DOGSHIT"
>ok leave
>"NOOOOOOOOO YOU CAN'T DO THIS TO ME HOLY SHIT I'M A VICTIM I'M A VICTIM!!!"
are you a woman, or a tranny a by any chance?
Anonymous No.725025267 [Report]
>>725020115 (OP)
>why can't I use shotgun
ESL, opinion discarded
Anonymous No.725025280 [Report] >>725030116
>>725022104
This image is always posted with the worst takes imaginable
Anonymous No.725025318 [Report] >>725025378
>>725025232
>'good bye' as two words
>'it was a bad discussion'
projection from some ESL nonwhite
Anonymous No.725025337 [Report] >>725025416 >>725025418
>>725024847
>just make up scenarios in your head and then complain about them
shotgun fags are truly something else
Anonymous No.725025356 [Report] >>725025507
>>725024831
[citation needed]
Anonymous No.725025378 [Report] >>725025450 >>725025481 >>725025597 >>725025661
>>725025318
european chad, 1.89m, buff, talk 4 languages. nice try saarjeet
Anonymous No.725025406 [Report] >>725025545
>>725024847
>he's never seeded an empty server before
Oh noooooo a slight inconvenience fuck this I just want to grind out the same identical matches over and over again help me gaming-psychologists I can't have any friction
Anonymous No.725025416 [Report] >>725025567
>>725025337
man, it's nuts how scenarios in my head somehow spurred the entire industry to pivot from dedicated servers to matchmaking
Anonymous No.725025418 [Report] >>725025621
>>725025337
what do you think populating a server entails retard
Anonymous No.725025450 [Report] >>725025473
>>725025378
post body
Anonymous No.725025473 [Report]
>>725025450
i don't want to give you fap material for free
Anonymous No.725025481 [Report] >>725025569
>>725025378
>european chad, 1.89m, buff, talk 4 languages
butthurt brown ESL using their poor grasp of geography as a cudgel. hilarious.
Anonymous No.725025507 [Report] >>725025872
>>725025356
>every server bans the shotgun
>anon has a complete melty in response to not being able to use the shotgun
if i had to guess, the shotgun's genuinely game breaking but anon wants to use it specifically because its overpowered and cant handle the idea of using a balanced weapon.
Anonymous No.725025510 [Report]
>>725023202
>matchmaking just needs to be a sort of "quickjoin a server" function.
What does this solve? Why even have it at that point?
To save you a few seconds instead of finding you a server? To facilitate retards that are literally too stupid to use a server browser?
Anonymous No.725025526 [Report]
>>725024847
It seems like it but It doesn't take so much time once the first guy stand up. Most of the time you are actual not alone when it comes to wanting something to happen as long as you are willing to stand up for it. Someone has to start.
Anonymous No.725025545 [Report]
>>725025406
lmao a thread getting 3 posts/min will die as soon as i reply to it, and you think i can seed an empty server?
Anonymous No.725025548 [Report]
I hate console niggers for taking this away
Anonymous No.725025567 [Report] >>725025615
>>725025416
>corporate dogshit products want to exert control over the players and don' want them to freely choose how and what they wanna play
>"don't you see anon? this was done because it's better!"
yup, it's a shotgun fag alright, known for their low IQ an inability to think
Anonymous No.725025569 [Report] >>725025689
>>725025481
all i hear is pajeet seething
Anonymous No.725025597 [Report] >>725025627
>>725025378
let me guess, Russian, Belarusian, Ukrainean, and English
Anonymous No.725025615 [Report] >>725025708
>>725025567
see
>>725025124
Anonymous No.725025621 [Report]
>>725025418
>this game with a shotgun has a bunch of servers that play the game without a shotgun... I am so alone! abloobloobloo I am alone and afraid!
it's sad that retards like you are allowed to live. your death would be such a relief.
Anonymous No.725025627 [Report] >>725025975
>>725025597
why do americans get so insecure when they witness a european CHAD that knows 4 languages
Anonymous No.725025661 [Report] >>725025770 >>725025829
>>725025378
>european

So, non-White lmao
Anonymous No.725025689 [Report] >>725025757
>>725025569
i 100% believe you are hearing that while you browse.
maybe wear noise cancelling headphones then if you want to ESLpost from work in silence
Anonymous No.725025693 [Report] >>725025791
>>725024574
I have never in my life encountered a game that both:
>had no vanilla servers
>had enough of a playerbase to support a matchmaking system anyway
Anonymous No.725025708 [Report] >>725025971
>>725025615
>my argument?
>uuuh.... uuuh.... money?
elaborate
>uuuuh.... uuuuh.... games with dedicated servers never made money?
nice try, corpo cocksucker
Anonymous No.725025757 [Report] >>725025889 >>725026037
>>725025689
i will never stop ESL posting
you talk english because it's the only language you know
i talk english because it's the only language you know
Anonymous No.725025770 [Report]
>>725025661
SAAR
Anonymous No.725025791 [Report]
>>725025693
bf3 or 4 became very much like this after a couple years
Anonymous No.725025806 [Report] >>725025992 >>725026151 >>725030438
>dedicated server
>play with many of the same people every session
>get to know them, have good teamwork / friendly competition with them
>lots of casual conversation and jokes in chat
>new players talk in chat too, can help them out
>established skill hierarchy between regulars
>improvement is noted, when a bad player kills a good player the whole server cheers
I miss it bros
For me it was insurgency 2
Anonymous No.725025829 [Report] >>725026092
>>725025661
>white
>he thinks its a perk
tell me you live inside a mayonnaise jar without telling me
Anonymous No.725025872 [Report]
>>725025507
now who's inventing scenarios in their head?
Anonymous No.725025889 [Report] >>725026032
>>725025757
try 'speaking' it instead of 'talking' it, for starters
Anonymous No.725025937 [Report]
>>725020115 (OP)
Servers that make rules should not allow progression, XP and unlocks and people would have to go out of their way to enable seeing them in the server browser. Their license to host should get revoked with no refunds if they make up arbitrary rules for servers that have progression. Bans should only be for cheating or ToS violations.
Anonymous No.725025952 [Report]
>>725024847
>hours
Literally no
With a couple of thousand players you can fill a server pretty quickly
Literally all it takes is
>one player joins an empty server, chills and waits
>another player joins, they play a 1v1
>another player joins, nearly there
>another player joins, critical mass achieved
>nobody leaves, server will fill
Anonymous No.725025971 [Report] >>725026067
>>725025708
>dedicated is superior
>the reality is moneyhungry corpos don't care if it's superior
>"corpo cock sucking"
seek help
Anonymous No.725025975 [Report] >>725026402
>>725025627
its hard to feel secure when you don't even speak the correct version of the language you got pushed unto you by the butt tapping social phlegm brits that spawned them
Anonymous No.725025992 [Report] >>725028064
>>725025806
I still have this experience in Mordhau nowadays
>join game
>get greeted immediately by a bunch of people
>strut over the battlefield like I own it
>noobs that cross by path get cut down
>other veterans just walk past me, knowing I put up a serious, long fight
>insult muslims and kikes in chat all day wearing crusader armor and farm the seethe of little inbreds and leftoids
it's a good life
Anonymous No.725026032 [Report]
>>725025889
thx for the free lesson
Anonymous No.725026037 [Report] >>725026091
>>725025757
am i an English only whitey or a pajeet saar, mister copetron 3000?
Anonymous No.725026067 [Report] >>725026345
>>725025971
>yum yum yum, the corpo boot is so tasty! let me lick it super clean just to proof how right corpos are about match making!
kill yourself
Anonymous No.725026091 [Report] >>725026425
>>725026037
i never called you whitey, pajeet
Anonymous No.725026092 [Report]
>>725025829
tell me you NEED to talk to white people on their invention in their language without telling me
Anonymous No.725026151 [Report] >>725026180
>>725025806
>Red Orchestra 2, 40-1 server, home.
Anonymous No.725026180 [Report] >>725026245
>>725026151
very based
Anonymous No.725026245 [Report] >>725026358
>>725026180
meow
Anonymous No.725026270 [Report]
>>725020115 (OP)
Anonymous No.725026345 [Report] >>725027462 >>725027572
>>725026067
they're doing what they need to to keep investors. shit on investors and gaming media and this whole fucking antiquated currency system if you must. devs that have done dedicated servers in the last 10 years have been fucked for it. and idiot 'gamers' insisting they just do it again but different are teaching devs to never listen to their customers.

take your 'with me or against me' mindset back to lebbit
Anonymous No.725026358 [Report]
>>725026245
i got that reference
Anonymous No.725026402 [Report]
>>725025975
yet you're speaking our language on our website. curious
Anonymous No.725026425 [Report] >>725026465
>>725026091
you know a lot of english-only jeets, turkroach?
Anonymous No.725026460 [Report] >>725026595
>>725024280
Anonymous No.725026465 [Report]
>>725026425
you're one
Anonymous No.725026487 [Report] >>725026674 >>725026847 >>725026909
>>725020824
It's not random and it's not SBMM, it's EOMM. They do take skill into account, but not in the way most people think.

Team A
2 KD
0.5 KD
0.5 KD
0.5 KD
0.5 KD

Team B
1 KD
1 KD
1 KD
0.5 KD
0.5 KD

What is known commonly as SBMM overwhelmingly creates matches like this and considers it a fair matchup. Statistically in a vacuum, it's an equal or near-equal skill matchup. Which team wins in this scenario, team A or B?

In my experience, in a typical TDM match, what happens is the 2 KD player is forced to perform at peak level with meta weapons in a race to see if they can essentially kill faster than his team can feed deaths to the enemy. Team B usually wins these because there are more players patrolling that can handily mop up the majority of the enemy team. The only thing Team B has to worry about is the 2 KD sweat, which often all it takes is one of the modern manipulated spawn flips where an enemy dies and is spawned behind their killer to encourage "revenge" kills (this is an actual documented thing and is why spawns are always complained about today even though spawn systems were perfected over a decade ago).

The end result is the average shitter gets fed their share of kills and wins and the good players can be placed in matches quickly with the general population without making the bad players quit the game. The entire system is made to protect players and thus protect profits.

If it were *truly* SBMM, you would have massively longer queue times the further away from dead average you are. This is just not the case.
Anonymous No.725026595 [Report]
>>725026460
>make normalfags wait
read the thread
Anonymous No.725026674 [Report] >>725026715 >>725029862
>>725026487
jesus, is the extra character required to type K/D or KDR really that much effort? or are we ranking people on boxes of Kraft Dinner?
Anonymous No.725026715 [Report] >>725026841
>>725026674
Would you like to contribute to the discussion or just sperg out?
Anonymous No.725026789 [Report] >>725026968
The only reason older games are still playable is thanks to server browsers.
Anonymous No.725026841 [Report] >>725027507
>>725026715
we're at 100+ posts of shitflinging and brownoid idiocy. your effortpost was sorely misplaced.
Anonymous No.725026847 [Report] >>725027356
>>725026487
what you explained is real SBMM, tallying up hidden matchmaking numbers until both teams are "equal".
EOMM tries to force 50/50 win/loss while slowly raising your shown matchmaking number so that normalniggers are fooled into thinking they're not bad and are slowly getting better.
it does this by fabricating matches exactly like the one in your example, where its "statistically" balanced but very obviously rigged in favor of one team.
Anonymous No.725026909 [Report] >>725027356
>>725026487
2 kdr isn't a sweat. That's just someone with an IQ above 120. 8 KDR and above is considered good with an IQ above 130. 20 KDR is when you're called a sweat with an IQ above 140 with good genetics.
Anonymous No.725026968 [Report] >>725027080
>>725026789
another reason the desire for dedicated servers WILL go unanswered. matchmaking lets the devs end a games life in an attempt to get more sales for the newest one.
dedicated is always better but 'better' takes a big step back to let 'more profitable' swing the whip when money is involved.
Anonymous No.725027080 [Report]
>>725026968
inb4 "nuuuhhhh duurrrr stop being realistic, stop bootlicking corpos and yell at clouds with the rest of us"
Anonymous No.725027152 [Report] >>725027703
>find server with a niche that's a lot of fun
>start as a stranger, keep coming back
>eventually become regular, join in on more conversations/jokes
>zero stress because teams can get shuffled at any moment
>wins and losses don't really matter because half of your opponents will be on your team in 30 minutes anyways
>players able to try wacky strategies, sometimes they pay off
>betting on 1v1s
>friday night random weapons
>entire server going nuts when a crazy upset occurs

Thank god we got rid of that lame garbage in exchange for paid cosmetics and EOMM/SBMM/whatever proprietary system a given company wants to call their specific model.
Anonymous No.725027301 [Report] >>725027835
>>725024646
>Play now button just puts you into a queue for a few minutes anyway
The only difference is that a "play now" button enables the endemic normalfag need to use the socially acceptable default options for everything instead of making an authentic choice based on what they think they would enjoy.
Anonymous No.725027356 [Report] >>725031682
>>725026847
It's not though, if it were SBMM, everyone would have a career 2KD despite their win loss ratio. I used an exact match based on KDR to simplify the hypothetical so it would be easier to understand.

>>725026909
Again, it is an overly simplified hypothetical so the basics could be understood.

I was not disappointed in expecting autists to misunderstand hypotheticals.
Anonymous No.725027462 [Report] >>725027931
>>725026345
>hurrrrrf durrrrrf dedicated servers fucked devs
>*gobbles up more corpo cocks*
>this is exactly *gargl gag gag gag* what investors want *glug glug glug*
Anonymous No.725027507 [Report]
>>725026841
spergout it is
Anonymous No.725027564 [Report] >>725029031
>>725024074
Not at all, the first documented EOMM was boosting performance of players right after every purchase to make them feel better and pay more.
Anonymous No.725027572 [Report] >>725027953
>>725026345
This anon is correct. Capitalism is to blame.
Anonymous No.725027703 [Report] >>725027903
>>725027152
we lost
Anonymous No.725027835 [Report]
>>725027301
read the thread, you're retreading explored points
Anonymous No.725027903 [Report] >>725028059 >>725028160 >>725028735
>>725027703
I sometimes wonder if the normies who gobble the slop would have turned out differently if they got to experience the golden age of MP games - or are these sterile battle pass grinders the only reason they showed up in the first place?
Anonymous No.725027931 [Report] >>725028142
>>725027462
anon he's not defending matchmaking in the slightest, he's just saying why devs and investors forced dedicated servers to die.
Anonymous No.725027953 [Report] >>725028074
>>725027572
the monster capitalism became, yes. capitalism died the first time tax dollars 'bailed out' a business that should have evolved or died and got replaced.

and no, that's not "late stage capitalism" any more than cancer is "late stage health"
Anonymous No.725028059 [Report] >>725028307
>>725027903
non-gamers ate up the wii for a few years and then, like a switch was flipped, went back to the "video games stupid" mindset. I doubt a goldfish brain normalfag would be much different with a different experience
Anonymous No.725028064 [Report] >>725028765
>>725025992
Weapons-grade cringe material right here
Anonymous No.725028074 [Report] >>725028197 >>725028352
>>725027953
I mean, yeah, capitalism is in "late stage health". The bailouts are part of capitalism.
Anonymous No.725028142 [Report]
>>725027931
some anons are flat out brainbroken by nuance. fucking electionbrained morons.
Anonymous No.725028160 [Report]
>>725027903
sterile battle pass grinders are a product of modern AAA devs. a creature developed in the deepest hells of uttar pradesh
Anonymous No.725028197 [Report] >>725028335 >>725028425
>>725028074
bailouts arent a part of capitalism.
capitalism is explicitly every company fighting to stay afloat off of the merit of their products with no assistance from a government.
once you start doing that it stops being capitalism.
Anonymous No.725028245 [Report]
>>725022104
Your fucking stupid, doc
Anonymous No.725028307 [Report] >>725028547
>>725028059
>went back to the "video games stupid" mindset
I have never seen, heard of or experienced this. I have seen nothing but more and more normies entering the market and consooming whatever slop is popular or advertised to them. The Wii was a very big start for the ultra casuals, though. That and Facebook Farmville games. PS3 and Xbox 360 ushered in "cinematic experiences" that reeled in a massive group of "I'm not like the other girls" who play popular movie games like god of war and red dead.
Anonymous No.725028326 [Report]
>>725020214
argument engagement threads are usually bot posts so their images and texts can have mismatching ideas.
that or OP is an esl retard who saw it was about matchmaking and dedicated servers and decided it was close enough for his dumb point
Anonymous No.725028335 [Report] >>725028405 >>725028484
>>725028197
let me guess, not REAL capitalism?
Anonymous No.725028352 [Report] >>725028768
>>725028074
so you actually want to assert that cancer is part of being healthy? what you re thinking of is how capitalism has failsafes for times of natural disaster or war. that's health. those failsafes were misused in situations only describable as times of rampant judaism. that's cancer.
capitalism was not founded on being a failsafe for kike behaviour.
Anonymous No.725028405 [Report] >>725028443
>>725028335
its not capitalism in the slightest.
Anonymous No.725028425 [Report]
>>725028197
>[thing that happened because of, during or in capitalism] isn't capitalism
Why are capitalist bots like this?
Anonymous No.725028443 [Report] >>725028545 >>725028632
>>725028405
yet every capitalist economy does it
Anonymous No.725028484 [Report]
>>725028335
Pretty sure there's a flow chart for defenders of capitalism. They'll complain about it all day long as they desperately try to label it something else. It's always funny when someone calls capitalism communism.
Anonymous No.725028545 [Report] >>725028731
>>725028443
they can call themselves capitalists, but that doesnt mean they are.
much like how a tranny can call himself a woman but he'll always be a man.
Anonymous No.725028547 [Report] >>725029181
>>725028307
those people are gamers and always would be, they just have no issue being normalfag casuals. i was talking non-gamers. your stuck-up aunt. your drunk uncle. your geriatric grandma. they thought nintendos were stupid, loved the wii, and then went back to their old opinion
Anonymous No.725028632 [Report]
>>725028443
no they don't. every capitalist economy was transformed into a corporate welfare state by kikes in the last century.
Anonymous No.725028731 [Report] >>725028768 >>725028805 >>725028928 >>725029254 >>725029838
>>725028545
so you're saying the US doesn't have a capitalist economy
groundbreaking analysis, only on /v/
Anonymous No.725028735 [Report]
>>725027903
your average normalfag does not have a mind of his own, all they know is to follow whats popular
sterility is a breeding ground for normalfags because there is no choice other than whats popular.
if they witnessed the era of dedicated servers, they'd probably just make more shitposts like the one in the OP because they genuinely cant comprehend why people would want to choose their own niche experience instead of just getting shoved into whats popular.
Anonymous No.725028758 [Report]
>>725020214
fpbp
Anonymous No.725028765 [Report]
>>725028064
stick to league of legends numale cuckold
Anonymous No.725028768 [Report]
>>725028731
yeah? see
>>725028352
Anonymous No.725028805 [Report]
>>725028731
correct.
we used to, but not anymore.
Anonymous No.725028928 [Report]
>>725028731
>the democratic capitalists take your money by force to give to corporations you do not have any interest in supporting, as they force a brown woman nobody wanted onto the ballot and cried "fascism" when the people took the only feeling of choice they had
tell me more, tell me more
Anonymous No.725028965 [Report]
>>725024847
>waaaah i can't accept the servers owners rules or the global meta, please change everything for me
You are a nigger with a woman mentality.
Anonymous No.725029031 [Report] >>725029225
>>725027564
>was boosting performance of players right after every purchase to make them feel better and pay more.
By using SBMM
What your saying is the equivalent of saying serial killers aren't murderers because they kill multiple people instead of one in a short time
Anonymous No.725029181 [Report]
>>725028547
Hmm, my aunt still plays shit very casually. My drunk uncle used to drop off playstation games for me that he enjoyed like resident evil. Grandma never played video games.
Anonymous No.725029210 [Report] >>725029451
>>725024280
Make your own server, nigger.
Anonymous No.725029225 [Report] >>725030025 >>725030631
>>725029031
i think you're very confused on what SBMM and EOMM are.
Anonymous No.725029254 [Report] >>725029298 >>725029583
>>725028731
Don't bother, they're already at [capitalism has never been tried]
Anonymous No.725029298 [Report]
>>725029254
the US is a goddamn commie country
Anonymous No.725029451 [Report]
>>725029210
read the thread
Anonymous No.725029508 [Report]
>>725022104
People being friends with others they spend a lot of time around instead of a stranger who hasn't even said anything since joining is not clique behaviour.
Anonymous No.725029583 [Report] >>725029716 >>725030157 >>725030341
>>725029254
>capitalism has never been tried
no need to waste bandwith arguing with hallucinations when you could be doing it in notepad. capitalism is what created the countries that kikes turned into what we have now.
if you want to keep claiming that jewish tricks are simply written into the fabric of every system ever created, i'm going to have to ask you to denounce the talmud
Anonymous No.725029716 [Report] >>725029804 >>725029876
>>725029583
can you explain how not bailing out a company that employs thousands of workers is a good thing?
Anonymous No.725029798 [Report] >>725029849
My experience with dedicated servers is with Counter Strike.
I played a few games and lost horribly and never played CS again.
At least with matchmaking you have a chance despite the smurfs.
>but you have to take part in the noob buckbreaking, it's tradition o algo
I'd rather play with people at my level.

My other experience with dedicated servers was Dota games, and in practice they were per-game so there was no actual community or actual 'server'.
In that case the Matchmaking that LoL introduced to the genre was a massive upgrade.

I think people who romanticize dedicated servers already had a bunch of people of a similar level to their own and just ignore the situation of anybody else.
It's better because it worked for them, back when they had friends to play games with, and now they don't so they think the problem is metchmaking systems.
Anonymous No.725029804 [Report] >>725029936
>>725029716
can you explain how "literally everyone HAS to work, even if what they're doing is completely unwanted or unproductive" isn't just your jewishness peeking out?
Anonymous No.725029838 [Report]
>>725028731
I guess you think the Democratic People's Republic of Korea is exactly what it says on the tin then?
Anonymous No.725029849 [Report] >>725029942
>>725029798
>o algo
go back, soikiddie
Anonymous No.725029862 [Report] >>725030023
>>725026674
do you need the extra character to understand it? this is just autism, go get checked into a mental hospital
Anonymous No.725029876 [Report]
>>725029716
>everyone has to work, goy
>if a job is destroyed, it doesn't matter if that job was putting plastic wrapping on a bunch of individually wrapped 3d printed toys from china, 75% of which will end up in a landfill within 2 years
>that job was a JOB and we needed it
Anonymous No.725029936 [Report] >>725030108 >>725030237
>>725029804
>literally everyone HAS to work, even if what they're doing is completely unwanted or unproductive
i never said that tho Mr.
>no need to waste bandwith arguing with hallucinations when you could be doing it in notepad
Anonymous No.725029942 [Report]
>>725029849
I get to post on multiple boards, frog in a well.
Anonymous No.725030023 [Report]
>>725029862
clearly i did not if i was able to provide clearer means of abbreviation. but by all means, turn the two-way street of communication into a freight train that says "i speaks how i wants to and dat's everyone else's problem, see?"
Anonymous No.725030025 [Report]
>>725029225
I just don't care to split hairs, neither belong in games and one leads to the other like a cancer growing
Not to mention Activision never publicly disclosed that use EOMM
Anonymous No.725030108 [Report] >>725030473
>>725029936
i wasn't arguing with a hallucination, i was arguing with a half-assed post with a dozen possible shitty assertions that could be attributed to it.
explain how 'worker' is somehow a virtue on it's own, and then i can answer your question about if they should have that job or not
Anonymous No.725030116 [Report] >>725030437
>>725022104
>>725025280
>Painting supposed to be emblematic of the American ideal of Free Speech
>Has become irrevocably associated with the most brain-dead, retarded opinions imaginable
There's a metaphor here.
Anonymous No.725030157 [Report] >>725030323 >>725030396
>>725029583
If a minority that got genocided was able to kill capitalism then it's an even bigger failure of an economic system than previously known.
Anonymous No.725030197 [Report]
>>725020115 (OP)
Anonymous No.725030207 [Report]
>>725024162
>dad gamers no longer have dad guilds
What happened to video games and why did (You) ruin them? Why are millennials so outwardly hateful?
Anonymous No.725030237 [Report]
>>725029936
>people say "capitalism was bastardized" and you call it "capitalism was never tried"
>you say "workers good" and others think you are calling ALL workers good
>you see these situations as identical
troubling behaviour. do better.
Anonymous No.725030254 [Report]
>>725024662
awesome!
Anonymous No.725030264 [Report]
reminder: halo did it
Anonymous No.725030323 [Report] >>725030397
>>725030157
>we wuz genocided
yeah sure you were, and all simply because people just decided they didn't like you for no reason, right?
Anonymous No.725030341 [Report] >>725030518
>>725029583
>capitalism creates countries
Huh, I had never heard this fiction before
Anonymous No.725030372 [Report]
>switch to non-gay server
problem solved
OP is a fag as usual
Anonymous No.725030392 [Report]
>>725020115 (OP)
Easy to solve. Join a different server.
Anonymous No.725030396 [Report] >>725030460
>>725030157
>capitalism was subverted
>"but muh holocaust!"
Anonymous No.725030397 [Report] >>725030605
>>725030323
Yeah but capitalism is a failure
Anonymous No.725030437 [Report]
>>725030116
The worst thing to come from the internet is giving retards a platform to spout their dumbass opinions.
Anonymous No.725030438 [Report]
>>725025806
Unreal Tournament 3 - RaptorServer EU Warfare.
When that one closed, it was just EU Warfare server until gamespy closed, and multiplayer died.
Also UT2004 CEONS Server, lasted for a very ong time until Timmy pulled all Unreal games out of steam. What a wanker.

I miss those so much.
Anonymous No.725030460 [Report] >>725030605
>>725030396
Yeah, capitalism failed. It's a bad system.
Anonymous No.725030473 [Report] >>725030584 >>725030772
>>725030108
so, the company doesn't get bailed out. thousands of people lose their jobs, and no new jobs are created. what are the 5k people supposed to do in this situation to provide for their family and pay the loan on their house
Anonymous No.725030503 [Report]
I thing I hate the most about matchmaking is the waiting.
>wait in queue
>wait for match to load
>wait for everyone to join
>wait for setup time
>play
>wait at scorescreen
>repeat
Anonymous No.725030518 [Report] >>725030918
>>725030341
capitalism literally created america as we know it. most of it's borders are the shape they are because they paid for them to be that way. and oddly, america is de facto top spot numba one for jewish tricks. hmmmm
Anonymous No.725030584 [Report] >>725030784
>>725030473
when a company dies, it creates space for new companies to grow and expand. the people can find new jobs at those companies.
alternatively, we could just deport every third world street shitter and solve all the problems that way.
Anonymous No.725030605 [Report] >>725030969
>>725030397
>>725030460
any high trust system is a failure on a planet with jews. literally every worldly problem would be gone within a few years if there wasn't a single ratfaced kike on this rock.
Anonymous No.725030631 [Report]
>>725029225
>SBMM
Following some learning period every match becomes stressful because all players are on the same level and wins/losses are decided purely by luck and mistakes.
>EOMM
The same as above but with the system intentionally feeding wins (vs lower skilled opponents) and losses (vs higher skilled opponents) in order to maximize your playtime and spending.
Anonymous No.725030736 [Report]
i just hate the modern report system
if you can't handle me then mute me or call for a vote kick
stop sending reports to big brother so he can ban me, some baby shit
Anonymous No.725030772 [Report]
>>725030473
>and no new jobs are created
why not?
>what are all these people who lost their jobs supposed to do
i've been asking the same thing since i lost my last job.

are you still arguing that we live in capitalism or are you pleading that capitalism can't work unless someone is paying thousands of employees to do stuff nobody needs them doing? you've lost me a bit.
Anonymous No.725030784 [Report] >>725030910 >>725031091
>>725030584
the bankster does not wait, he needs his 1k every month or you're on the streets. and your children need new clothes. and your mother fell ill. but the new company(ies) only hire(s) 50 people for now, and the pay is not what it used to be because the business still needs time to find customers
Anonymous No.725030910 [Report] >>725031084
>>725030784
>he needs his 1k every month or you're on the streets
imagine working at a company that hires 50K people but you still have to rent an apt.

sounds like we should stop bailing out those businesses creating perma-poverty and let someone else shine. and yes, this is not a painless overnight process
Anonymous No.725030918 [Report] >>725030976
>>725030518
nah, capitalism didn't start in america until well after it was conquered by filthy peasants
Anonymous No.725030969 [Report]
>>725030605
yeah but capitalism was a failure
Anonymous No.725030976 [Report] >>725031040
>>725030918
>america as we know it
read nigga, read.
when were it's current borders drawn?
Anonymous No.725031040 [Report]
>>725030976
borders aren't exclusive to capitalism
Anonymous No.725031084 [Report]
>>725030910
>imagine working at a company that hires 50K people but you still have to rent an apt.
>imagine perfectly normal scenario that happens to millions of people
Anonymous No.725031091 [Report] >>725031431
>>725030784
as the other guy said, its not a painless process.
the world isnt fair, it'll NEVER be fair. the more you try to make it so the more painful the adjustment periods become.
Anonymous No.725031097 [Report] >>725031391 >>725031586 >>725032983
I always hated dedicated servers because of this reason. And I always felt a huge disconnect with how /v/ is obsessed with them.

Dedicated servers are the reddit of matchmaking.
>namefags
>special treatment
>powertripping moderators

Whereas normal matchmaking is the 4chan of it.
>no one knows each other
>no one has special treatment
>no active moderation except for automatic mechanisms
Anonymous No.725031376 [Report]
>>725020115 (OP)
I just want easily joinable official servers, not opaque fucking "lobbies" with matchmaking
I don't care about SBMM I just don't want to sit in a matchmaking queue in the first place, getting kicked out after every "match", etc. Just let me hop onto a server and play for as long as I want until I leave.

OP pic is a false dichotomy.
Anonymous No.725031391 [Report] >>725031705
>>725031097
meanwhile in reality
>we have the party /v/an
>reddit supports matchmaking
Anonymous No.725031431 [Report] >>725031589 >>725031724
>>725031091
having multiple families become homeless street beggars is obviously the better alternative to bailing out companies.
Anonymous No.725031526 [Report]
>>725020115 (OP)
Literally no reason why you can't have both
Anonymous No.725031586 [Report]
>>725031097
You never played on any good community servers then. One of my favorite gaming memories is this TTT server for gmod where propkilling people as a ghost was encouraged and they gave your ability to move props just barely the right amount of force to find creating and funny ways of killing people as props. One day i got on gmod and it was just gone. I could never find what happened to it or find another server like it. This was back in around 2015 i suppose. There was also the W3source and W3Evo mod tf2 servers that were a wacky fun time. Playing tf2 with the ability for heavy to teleport and soldier to be translucent or have low gravity was so much fun and the server developed it's own interesting metas.
Anonymous No.725031589 [Report] >>725031724
>>725031431
in an optimal system the people would have enough of a stockpile that they'd be able to outlast the down periods when trying to look for a new job.
but when you take money from people to bail out useless companies, they cant build that stockpile.
Anonymous No.725031682 [Report] >>725031876
>>725027356
you're the one autistically misunderstanding obvious bait, can't believe you replied to that post
Anonymous No.725031705 [Report] >>725031996
>>725031391
It's a jeet
Anonymous No.725031724 [Report] >>725031786 >>725031852 >>725032524
>>725031431
>>725031589
can you stupid niggers shut up about capitalism vs communism in a fucking online server thread?
Anonymous No.725031786 [Report]
>>725031724
ok i apologize, i got carried away
Anonymous No.725031852 [Report]
>>725031724
ok yeah.
Anonymous No.725031876 [Report] >>725032394
>>725031682
>no u
Still seething?
Anonymous No.725031996 [Report]
>>725031705
Okay? You don't have to announce you are a jeet anon
Anonymous No.725032394 [Report] >>725032947
>>725031876
>brown ESL
okay nevermind, this thread isn't even worth engaging in, let it die
Anonymous No.725032524 [Report]
>>725031724
i still think the capitalism discussion was more interesting than calling each other pajeets and brownoids
Anonymous No.725032572 [Report]
I know dedicated servers are better because gears of war (2006) managed to outlive gears of war 2 (2008) by like 5 years just because it had dedicated servers while gears 2 had matchmaking
Anonymous No.725032947 [Report]
>>725032394
Enjoy your seethie, Ivan
Anonymous No.725032983 [Report]
>>725031097