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Anonymous No.725028713 [Report] >>725028951 >>725029084 >>725029142 >>725029323 >>725029597 >>725031404 >>725031623 >>725033342 >>725038425 >>725038529
How was old BioWare so damn good? What happened?
Anonymous No.725028782 [Report] >>725028929 >>725029084 >>725030471 >>725033751
we are living in the twilight of humanity, is what happened
Anonymous No.725028929 [Report]
>>725028782
It saddens me greatly
Anonymous No.725028951 [Report] >>725029141
>>725028713 (OP)

What's so good about it?
Anonymous No.725029084 [Report] >>725030431 >>725032552 >>725039004
>>725028713 (OP)
>Mostly made up of nerds who loved sci fi, cared little for shoving political propaganda into the games they made, and just wanted to make something cool
Modern Bioware is full of social media keyboard warriors working under a checklist and the writers are new, inexperienced and think their personal politics should come first.
>>725028782
Okay, this is overly dramatic and retarded. Every fucking generation has thought or said this.
Anonymous No.725029141 [Report] >>725029206 >>725029302 >>725038270
>>725028951
atmosphere, writing, cinematography, world building, art direction
Anonymous No.725029142 [Report]
>>725028713 (OP)
BTFO by kotor
Anonymous No.725029206 [Report] >>725029278 >>725030661
>>725029141

What's so good about those things? :)
Anonymous No.725029278 [Report] >>725029885
>>725029206

what's bad about them?
Anonymous No.725029302 [Report] >>725029443
>>725029141
Where is the gameplay, chucklefuck? Does this really need 15 threads a day? Anything to not play a video game.
Anonymous No.725029323 [Report] >>725029349
>>725028713 (OP)
>What happened?

western decline happens everywhere.
Anonymous No.725029349 [Report]
>>725029323
The West... has fallen
Anonymous No.725029443 [Report]
>>725029302
>tranny with hundreds of hours in shmups and only babby's first low-scoring shitclears to show for it
LMAO!
Anonymous No.725029597 [Report]
>>725028713 (OP)
>What happened?
EA happened
Anonymous No.725029885 [Report] >>725030578 >>725031058 >>725036380
>>725029278
> How exactly is the game good? :)
>> Throws buzzwords without meaning
> How are those things good? :)
>> REEE SHUT UP UHH HOW IS IT BAD THEN?!?!

Mass effect is such a good amazing game its fans are unable to even say what's good about it, amazing.
Anonymous No.725030431 [Report]
>>725029084
>Mostly made up of nerds who loved sci fi
I've been rewatching Star Trek TNG and replaying ME1 in spurts. In terms of aesthetics it's very telling how old Bio took a lot of inspiration from the show in terms of architecture and alien life forms. Taking the IP from the nerds and handing it over to the zoomers is imo what caused it to go downhill (see dudebro ME3 and soulless Andromeda).
Anonymous No.725030471 [Report] >>725040414
>>725028782
obama happened unironically
Anonymous No.725030578 [Report] >>725030632 >>725030867 >>725031026
>>725029885

name one bad thing about mass effect
Anonymous No.725030632 [Report]
>>725030578
It's a bad movie, not a video game.
Anonymous No.725030661 [Report] >>725031005
>>725029206
>define good
kys
Anonymous No.725030724 [Report] >>725031005
>>define good
unironically a question that stumps actual philosophers
Anonymous No.725030867 [Report] >>725030991
>>725030578
barely a RPG, shitty writting, shitty models, shitty animations, autistic scenarios. It's fucking dogshit, we went from baldurs gate 1/2, KOTOR1/2, Dragon Age 1 to fucking mass effect lmao
Anonymous No.725030991 [Report] >>725031021
>>725030867
>baldurs gate 1/2, KOTOR1/2
spreadsheet simulators
>Dragon Age 1
was somewhat good, but overall had too much combat
Anonymous No.725031005 [Report] >>725031191
>>725030661
>>725030724
Good is the same as fun. A thing in and of itself is not inherently good or fun, but you can categorize the thing's aspects and make a subjective judgement on whether or not YOU think all those aspects constitute a fun or good experience.

TL;DR: it's completely subjective.
Anonymous No.725031021 [Report]
>>725030991
>spreadsheet simulators
Role Playing Games. Don't like it? Go back to gears of war loser
Anonymous No.725031026 [Report] >>725031842 >>725031985 >>725036662
>>725030578

For starters I think the combat fucking sucks. It's complete and utter garbage, the whole "OVERHEATING" system is trash and the aim reticle is horrible. You hit enemies and it doesn't feel you hit them.

The dialogue options are pretty lame, though Mass Effect never got good at dialogue options. Companions are extremely shallow and their dialogues are most of the time strange or nonsensical. Ashley out of nowhere reciting poems, Kaidan telling you about his experience in the academy, etc. It's all so wooden. Tali is not even a character in that game.

I don't like how they tried to pat themselves in the back over being progressive by making Asari a "super girl power alien dykes" race when the only reason they exist is due to the writer's fetishism and not actual tolerance or respect for other sexualities.

The ending is very underwhelming and boring, nothing happens and i always find it funny how people praise games in which you can make the villain "shoot himself", it's cringe.

Also the character creator is complete dog water and forces you to play as Vanderloo, and whatever backstory you pick is completely irrelevant, it never comes into play.

The only thing i'd praise about Mass Effect 1 is how beautiful it looks for a 2007 game and baffles me how Dragon age origin from 2009 looks like complete garbage.
Anonymous No.725031058 [Report] >>725031264 >>725031348
>>725029885
None of those things are buzzwords without meaning, nor do they need to be justified in essay style for each individual thread. Genuine participants in a thread like this can be expected to understand why the writing quality or atmosphere of Mass Effect are good without the need for repetitive elaboration. The onus is largely on you as the detractor to refute the agreed-upon high quality of the game.
Anonymous No.725031191 [Report]
>>725031005
tranny coded post
Anonymous No.725031264 [Report] >>725031348 >>725031595
>>725031058
> The game is good
> But i'm incapable of elaborating why it's good

You're either underage, retarded or your favorite youtuber hasn't made a 4 hour essay about WHY mass effect 1 is good so you have nobody to quote or steal arguments from.

Embarrassing. Your picture however shows me you played as Female Shepard, which does say a lot about WHY you like the game. It's not that it's good or interesting or has a good story or gameplay. You like it becuase it let's you pretend you're a woman.
Anonymous No.725031348 [Report] >>725031491
>>725031058
>playing as femshep
based
>>725031264
>complaining about femshep
cringe
Anonymous No.725031404 [Report] >>725040569
>>725028713 (OP)
I tried replying ME1 recently. I couldn't progress past the Citadel. There is so much shitty expository dialogue with fake choices that have no serious consequences. Stop nostalgia fagging. It was mediocre game.
Anonymous No.725031487 [Report]
Old games were made by straight white men.
Anonymous No.725031491 [Report]
>>725031348
This. Based transsister using videogames to pretend you're a woman. Only women can save the galaxy!
Anonymous No.725031512 [Report]
crazy how bioware made a game with beastiality and people just casually didn't think much off it
Anonymous No.725031595 [Report]
>>725031264
>copy and paste some normalfagtuber arguments for me because I enter all arguments as if I were an ignorant alien baby
no
>unprompted tranny obsession
that tracks
Anonymous No.725031623 [Report]
>>725028713 (OP)
The old guard got old and lost the drive and the fight, the new guard didn't have it to begin with. Nobody could carry the legacy, and decline set in. It's very simple.
Anonymous No.725031721 [Report]
> The only people who like mass effect are literal transexuals using it to play as a woman
Oh boy. Gaming is dead.
Anonymous No.725031842 [Report] >>725031965
>>725031026
>and not actual tolerance or respect for other sexualities.
You say that like it's supposed to be a good trait.
Anonymous No.725031965 [Report] >>725032130
>>725031842
> We're wokeee!! we're pro lgbt!!! come play our game we're sooo tolerant and diverse!! praise us!!
>> Not a single gay romance until the 3rd game and it's trash
Anonymous No.725031985 [Report] >>725032215
>>725031026
The combat was clunky, but overheating and the aim reticle were great and made the game feel unique, the return to ammo after 1 was a massive disappointment.
The dialogue was serviceable and nowhere near as bad as you're making it out to be.
The Asari criticism is your own headcanon.
The ending was great, and there's nothing wrong with including a persuasion check.
Character creator and background impact were both bad I agree.
Anonymous No.725032130 [Report] >>725032167
>>725031965
> Not a single gay romance until the 3rd game
femshep X Liara in 1
Anonymous No.725032167 [Report] >>725032647
>>725032130

Dykes are gay men now?
Anonymous No.725032215 [Report] >>725032708
>>725031985
You need to realize there is an entire cohort of people who think that third person action game means either mashing light attack into heavy attack or blasting enemies into gory chunks with assault rifles. The core issue with mass effect 1 is that it wasnt gears of war or red faction, and this was fixed in the sequels.
Anonymous No.725032552 [Report]
>>725029084
>Okay, this is overly dramatic and retarded. Every fucking generation has thought or said this.
those generations didn't have to interact with indians spamming AI trash
Anonymous No.725032647 [Report] >>725032881
>>725032167
You didn't specify men until now, you just said "gay" and in common discourse that was interchangeable for homo and not always specifically about men.
Anonymous No.725032708 [Report]
>>725032215
kek, good point
Anonymous No.725032881 [Report] >>725033896 >>725036767
>>725032647

What a stupid comment anon.
Anonymous No.725033342 [Report]
>>725028713 (OP)
Anonymous No.725033751 [Report] >>725034037 >>725034201 >>725034241
>>725028782
>religion is finally dying for the first time
>technology exploding
It really isnt at all lmao. Its really the beginning. Humanity now has the experience and knowledge and most importantly self awareness to understand itself and move upwards from the animal state it currently resides in.
Anonymous No.725033896 [Report] >>725033934
>>725032881
He's correct tho
Anonymous No.725033934 [Report] >>725034852
>>725033896
Samefagging retard.
Anonymous No.725034037 [Report]
>>725033751
It's all garbage now. Knowledge without soul is like a pie without filling.
Anonymous No.725034201 [Report]
>>725033751
>religion is dying
Religion is stronger than ever you clown. It's just not Christianity anymore, but Feminism, transgenderism and communism. All of these are at their core religious movements, with their own god, their own taboos, their own commandments and their own heretics. They are innoculated against reason and follow strict dogma. All technology has done is allow these groups to further isolate themselves in their own chambers.
Anonymous No.725034241 [Report]
>>725033751
you say this and yet every video game genre peaked 20 or even 30 years ago and the only thing new technology is doing is smearing my screen in shit or forcing me to install content filters
Anonymous No.725034553 [Report]
Is the mass effect poster unironically the worst poster on the entire board?
Anonymous No.725034852 [Report]
>>725033934
Keep telling yourself that
sage No.725036380 [Report]
>>725029885
>buzzwords
what a retard redit tier faggot take
google out what it means
hi gave you 5 clear and distinguish nounces describing the strongest points of the game (the ones that modern games lack)
sage No.725036662 [Report]
>>725031026
>other sexualities.
there are gays, lesbians
and faggot freak gender goblins
mass effect made the gold standard of how the subject should be treated including me2 (male gay optionn was dude litterary noone cared about so it was fine while fem gay option was asari or whore secretary, based)
sage No.725036767 [Report]
>>725032881
hi is correct tho
Anonymous No.725038270 [Report]
>>725029141
aaaah take me back
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ea1eWarxdxQ
Anonymous No.725038425 [Report]
>>725028713 (OP)
Mass Effect was already Bioware on decline. Only thing that made it good was the potential of the setting, even if the execution was mediocre. But ME2 started to fuck up the setting, and ME3 killed it and took a dump on the corpse. MEA was indians raping the corpse and eating the poo.
Anonymous No.725038529 [Report]
>>725028713 (OP)
They knew and at least tolerated their audience
Anonymous No.725039004 [Report] >>725039128
>>725029084
And some of those generations lived through the absolute downfall of their cultures and nations. Braindamaged retards like you seem to think that history is a single line that always goes up.
Anonymous No.725039128 [Report]
>>725039004
Nice goalpost moving, he said humanity, not one culture or nation.
Anonymous No.725040414 [Report]
>>725030471
Unironically this. The Obama election led to the lizard overlords saying "Nope" and pulling the emergency brakes on US dominance by crashing the economy. Casey Hudson even said, apologizing for the shortcomings of the 3 games that "Making a game trilogy is hard when you have to span recessions and changes in the industry."
Anonymous No.725040569 [Report]
>>725031404
Most of picking dialogue options in RPGs shouldn't be about like "Ooo, what consequences will this lead to!???". It's fine that 80% of the options are just flavor-text so you can immerse yourself in the protagonist role, and style them to your liking, while the really big decisions are few and far between. I only lament that the 3 games didn't deliver on the Rachni choice, the Council or the Collector Base. I feel like there's just a handful of hugely important decisions that were set up to be plot-centric, and they do absolutely nothing interesting in the final game.