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Anonymous No.725030745 [Report] >>725030787 >>725030972 >>725030985 >>725031025 >>725031173 >>725031324 >>725031505 >>725034053 >>725034606 >>725034826 >>725035353 >>725035837 >>725036910 >>725036964 >>725038223 >>725038693 >>725040305 >>725040306 >>725040515 >>725040773 >>725041881 >>725042451 >>725042778 >>725042808 >>725042897 >>725043491 >>725043668 >>725045753 >>725047000 >>725047731 >>725052394 >>725054019 >>725054120 >>725055150
How can anyone justify spending 4x as much on a gaming PC for similar performance?
Anonymous No.725030787 [Report] >>725031051 >>725034395 >>725043014 >>725043513
>>725030745 (OP)
>similar performance?
>Similar
Anonymous No.725030972 [Report] >>725031049 >>725031051 >>725031252 >>725039029 >>725040021 >>725048004 >>725053549
>>725030745 (OP)
all PC games are free.
twenty PS5 games will cost you $1200 ...more than the PC.

a PS5 is MORE expensive than a PC, for weaker hardware.
Anonymous No.725030985 [Report] >>725031051
>>725030745 (OP)
Because it's way better performance, so many games run at 30 fps on the PS5, performance mode gives you horrendous graphics and resolution.
Also more games, snoy ports their games to PC, also full backwards compatibility and emulators, mods, free online, not having to use the shitty dual sense controller, a machine you can use for programming, art, 3d modeling, making your own games, I could go on forever.
Anonymous No.725031025 [Report] >>725031051
>>725030745 (OP)
Because PC has games
Anonymous No.725031049 [Report] >>725031252 >>725038107
>>725030972
Acting like most pc users aren't steam paypiggies lol
Anonymous No.725031051 [Report] >>725031572 >>725035185 >>725041567
>>725030787
>>725030972
>>725030985
>>725031025
>B-BUT MUH GTA6
Anonymous No.725031173 [Report] >>725031641 >>725031821
>>725030745 (OP)
the PC can emulate every console and computer ever made, thats a MILLION games, all free,
Anonymous No.725031252 [Report] >>725031485 >>725032683
>>725030972
>>725031049
Even if you don't want to pirate, those 20 games will cost you maybe 400 bucks at most on PC.
Anonymous No.725031324 [Report] >>725031676
>>725030745 (OP)
The performance is far better on PC
PC can play PS6 and beyond games
PC can be used for tons of things other than gaming
PC can play Switch games
PC can play games from all the handheld consoles
PC can play phone games
Anonymous No.725031485 [Report] >>725038525 >>725045753
>>725031252
I buy used physical copies which are cheaper than any discount any storefront could offer and I can also sell them after and either get the money back or most of it. Couldn't do that on PC because there are no current day physical games on it
Anonymous No.725031505 [Report]
>>725030745 (OP)
First off, it's not 4x the price, even up-front, and PC is cheaper overall. Second performance and graphics aren't everything. PC has mods, Steam and all it's features, and allows you to actually own your games. A PC with comparable power is superior to a PlS5.
Anonymous No.725031572 [Report]
>>725031051
Not black and/or fat enough.
Anonymous No.725031641 [Report]
>>725031173
But they all play like shit on your PC
Anonymous No.725031676 [Report] >>725033796 >>725045819
>>725031324
All PC games this generation have had stuttering, consoles are getting better performance.
Anonymous No.725031821 [Report] >>725032017 >>725032765 >>725038590 >>725038693
PC mogs every console in performance and does everything else at the same time.
Only turdies buy xbot and soistation.
>>725031173
There will be no switch 2 emulation. It requires high IQ to pull off and no high IQ individual is willing to ruin his life with endless legal fees so that turdies and shitskins can pirate switch 2 games.
Anonymous No.725032017 [Report]
>>725031821
Consoles are most popular in first world countries tho
Anonymous No.725032683 [Report]
>>725031252
old games?
Anonymous No.725032765 [Report]
>>725031821
>PC mogs every console in performance and does everything else at the same time.
yet a lot of people on /v/ are running 3 generations or older low to midrange computers along with 1080p monitors.
Anonymous No.725033796 [Report] >>725034046 >>725034193
>>725031676
Consoles stutter like hell too. You just don't hear about it because consoletards have no standards and don't notice it.
Anonymous No.725034046 [Report] >>725035269
>>725033796
Lmao. Stupid slave race cattle, there is no shader compilation to do on consoles.
Anonymous No.725034053 [Report]
>>725030745 (OP)
>similar performance
KEK. Free online and piracy pays for itself, dawg
Anonymous No.725034193 [Report] >>725034395 >>725035269 >>725045819
>>725033796
>standards
Muh PC masterrace performance faggotry lead to lazy game devs relying on AI generated frames. Now triple A games look like shit and are unoptimized
Anonymous No.725034220 [Report]
PCs are for fucking retarded virgins

Consoles all the way. I'm PS5 Pro / Switch 2. I only buy games digitally. And I get pussy all the time.
Anonymous No.725034395 [Report] >>725035148
>>725034193
>lazy game devs relying on AI generated frames
you mean like >>725030787 ?
Anonymous No.725034606 [Report] >>725034701
>>725030745 (OP)
a 2k gaming pc plays games on highest settings at 1080p(maybe even 1440) while the ps5 upscales from resolutions as low as 360p with sub 60fps
Anonymous No.725034690 [Report]
Nowadays, games need to be modded to even be considered playable. I couldn’t imagine playing RDR2 without the mod that restores John Marston to his OG appearance in the epilogue. And lets not even talk about the poor chaps that are stuck with vanilla Skyrim and Fallout 4.
Anonymous No.725034701 [Report] >>725034847
>>725034606
a $400 gaming pc plays at 4k 60fps ultra
Anonymous No.725034826 [Report]
>>725030745 (OP)
The PlayStation 5 is an OKAY gaming platform.
I think the biggest weaknesses are actually the marketplace.

Why the hell can I not search by a game studio or when I look up a game I like I can't just find other games made by the same people?

Also why is there a bullshit no refund policy unless the game hasn't been downloaded or played?

Also, you can't do refunds through the console itself? You have to actually log into a computer or something and go do the refund that way?

If steam made living room console PlayStation would be out of business tomorrow
Anonymous No.725034847 [Report] >>725035118
>>725034701
yeah but not the latest sloppa
like i couldnt run stalker 2 on high with my 4070 super 7600x3d
everything else is pretty much maxed tho yeah
Anonymous No.725035118 [Report]
>>725034847
lets be honest, Stalkers 2 performance in general is shit even on high end PCs so I would pick other example
Anonymous No.725035148 [Report] >>725035515 >>725038961 >>725053856
>>725034395
>Le smug tranime gif
cringe
That's a side effect of PCtards nature of being whinebabies that spread to consoles like aids. I recall no "performance mode" on 6th generation of consoles or even 7th. This all started in the 2010s with the constant muh graphikz and muh gorillion fps obsession PC retards only care about. If a game is good you don't care if it's 30 or 60 fps, you still enjoy it. It's only a dealbreaker for insufferable drama queens
Anonymous No.725035185 [Report]
>>725031051
it will come out on PC eventually and better, we already waited 13 years, what is one more year for the biggest corporate mandated slop ever?
Anonymous No.725035269 [Report] >>725036431 >>725036545 >>725036546
>>725034046
Shader compilation isn't the only cause of stutters, just the most prominent one. Also, it's not a problem on PC either if you use Linux.
>>725034193
I can choose to play games in native resolution with no upscaling on PC. Can you do that on your cucksole? Nope. Upscaled 360p is all you get.
Anonymous No.725035353 [Report]
>>725030745 (OP)
Even a $0 PC you picked up off the curb has more games. And a cheapo made from used parts will get the same performance for less.
Anonymous No.725035515 [Report] >>725035813
>>725035148
>buzzwords
>moving goalposts
nice post consolebabby
Anonymous No.725035813 [Report]
>>725035515
>calls me out on buzzwords
>used one
Anonymous No.725035837 [Report]
>>725030745 (OP)
I won´t say all console players should get shot in the head, but I will die on the hill that pure console players should.
Anonymous No.725036431 [Report]
>>725035269
>spend 2k+ to play modern unrealslop
Hey, at least it's not upscaled
Anonymous No.725036545 [Report]
>>725035269
Anonymous No.725036546 [Report] >>725037093
>>725035269
>just the most prominent
Lol. What a dead end of a platform.
Anonymous No.725036910 [Report] >>725046068
>>725030745 (OP)
A console is bargain bin parts and a 3060 equivalent running upscaled HD or even SD resolutions on ultra-low settings that aren't even available in settings menus.
The bargain bin parts are so bargain bin that they're causing issues with PC ports, because the shared RAM on the console spec and subsequent arbitrary assignment by devs means that on a lazy port it can sometimes ask for more VRAM than most GPUs have by a narrow margin.
Depending on what parts you have, especially the parts that don't go obsolete that quickly (case and PSU for instance), a console isn't that much more expensive, and is almost certainly more expensive once you factor in the various deferred costs.
Anonymous No.725036964 [Report] >>725037047
>>725030745 (OP)
Because there's jackshit to play on PS5, I'm not interested in FOTM AAA shovelware, most of my playtime comes from games made over 10 years ago
Anonymous No.725037047 [Report] >>725037438
>>725036964
>there's nothing to play on console
>there's nothing to play on pc either so I have to go back 10 years
>somehow this is a huge win for pc
Anonymous No.725037093 [Report] >>725039540
>>725036546
Agreed. I really don't get why anyone still uses consoles.
Anonymous No.725037438 [Report] >>725037994 >>725038112
>>725037047
>there's nothing to play on PC either
except literally 40 years worth of gaming history, which a console can't play because of the retarded walled garden design, I don't have to beg someone to port a game to the latest system, I can just install it
>b-but muh compatibility, it takes too much effort to run an old game
if you can't drag and drop a couple files and edit an ini you're literally retarded
Anonymous No.725037994 [Report] >>725038505
>>725037438
>except literally 40 years worth of gaming history,
Nobody buys a recent console to play old games. Such a pointless argument.
Anonymous No.725038030 [Report]
Anyone who splurges on a top-tier PC either fell for the 4K meme or cares more about proompting porn than gaming. There aren't even any games that warrant getting that kinda hardware.
Anonymous No.725038107 [Report]
>>725031049
Like 97% of my steam library was obtained on deep sales or humble. I probably paid like $150 for my 200+ games.
Anonymous No.725038112 [Report] >>725038416 >>725039516
>>725037438
>you have 40 years of games which don't work unless you start searching for cracked .exe and specific .ini text edits, and even then a lot of them don't work
sounds wonderful
Anonymous No.725038223 [Report] >>725038563
>>725030745 (OP)
You can build a gaming PC equivalent to a PS5 for 600 dollars. PC also has more games and support for more controllers and devices (including mouse and keyboard for strategy games). You cannot connect a fucking third party bluetooth to the PS5.
Anonymous No.725038416 [Report] >>725038478
>>725038112
You use DOSbox for DOS games that's a no brainer.
Anonymous No.725038478 [Report] >>725039132
>>725038416
No I don't. Why would I want to play shitty fucking DOS games?
Anonymous No.725038505 [Report]
>>725037994
Both Nintendo and Sony sell emulators.
Anonymous No.725038525 [Report]
>>725031485
you go through all of that hassle when you could just pirate it and have it forever? and you also play at 30fps? kek
Anonymous No.725038563 [Report] >>725039293
>>725038223
.... apart from
keyboards, mice, wheels, 3rd party controllers, trackballs, trackpads, motion controllers, arcade sticks, headphones, headsets, vr headset, etc etc
Anonymous No.725038590 [Report]
>>725031821
Switch 2 has no games so no one will ever bother emulating it.
Anonymous No.725038693 [Report]
>>725030745 (OP)
A wider selection of games.

>>725031821
Emulators aren't illegal to make, just don't try to profit off them like a fucking retard.
Anonymous No.725038961 [Report]
>>725035148
Back in the day new console generations meant massive leaps in graphics, and developers often sacrificed framerate for the sake of muh graphics, which were actually impressive at the time. With the PS5 and Xbox S/X there was no such leap, so they instead focused on faster loading times and higher frames.
Anonymous No.725039029 [Report]
>>725030972
>all PC games are free.
pirate bros we never stop winning.
Anonymous No.725039132 [Report] >>725039505
>>725038478
>Why would I want to play shitty fucking DOS games?
t. plebeian zoomer
Anonymous No.725039293 [Report] >>725039565
>>725038563
Yes you can use those on PC with no limitations.
Anonymous No.725039505 [Report] >>725039716
>>725039132
>didn't answer why
Anonymous No.725039516 [Report] >>725039605
>>725038112
>what is GOG (aka Good OLD Games) and myabandonware.com
Anonymous No.725039540 [Report]
>>725037093
PC illiterate, try to follow along.
Anonymous No.725039565 [Report] >>725039896 >>725039952
>>725039293
>you can't use these on console
>yes you can
>you can use them on pc too
so?
Anonymous No.725039605 [Report]
>>725039516
>>what is GOG
something thirdies use for games when they don't have a pc built to play anything in the last 5 years
Anonymous No.725039716 [Report] >>725039771
>>725039505
It's implied.
Anonymous No.725039771 [Report] >>725039960
>>725039716
>I implied my none answer
you're not making much sense
Anonymous No.725039896 [Report] >>725040573
>>725039565
You can't on consoles. The PS5 has tons of bullshit limitations. Most bluetooth devices are not compatible. Keyboard and mouse are supported by the hardware, but most games don't support it. You cannot even use a PS4 controller on native PS5 games.
Anonymous No.725039952 [Report] >>725040573
>>725039565
You can't use them on console in every game (or even most games) and they'e significantly more limited in functionality, such as remapping compared to PC.
Anonymous No.725039960 [Report] >>725040481
>>725039771
Well we already established you are a subhuman zoomer so you aren't gonna get it anyway.
Anonymous No.725040021 [Report] >>725045898
>>725030972
>denuvo
Anonymous No.725040305 [Report]
>>725030745 (OP)
I have both cause im not poor or brown
Anonymous No.725040306 [Report] >>725040352
>>725030745 (OP)
>spend $600.00 to play games 720p upscaled to 1080p to hit 30 fps
>pay $120.00 per year to access multiplayer games you already paid for
>spend $3,000.00 to play video games at 2160p 240 fps with a nice 240 hz OLED monitor
>perfect frame pacing
Not only are PCs far more powerful, but they are far more cost effective too.
Anonymous No.725040352 [Report] >>725040415 >>725041347
>>725040306
PC is 2-4x the cost of console for any comparable spec
Anonymous No.725040415 [Report]
>>725040352
True, and no PC runs games at 4k. At best you get 1440p (upscaled from 480p with DLSS.)
Anonymous No.725040481 [Report] >>725042980
>>725039960
>I called you a zoomer
>... and doing so negates me from answering your questions
what DOS games are you playing? lol
Anonymous No.725040515 [Report] >>725040742
>>725030745 (OP)
Piracy use to be the answer but not anymore
Anonymous No.725040573 [Report] >>725041624 >>725041859
>>725039896
>>725039952
>they work but they don't work like I want them to work so them working doesn't count ok
Anonymous No.725040742 [Report]
>>725040515
Piracy is basically just for poor fags and old games.
Anonymous No.725040773 [Report]
>>725030745 (OP)
are PC's that expensive in brazil?
Anonymous No.725040838 [Report] >>725040907
>gtx 1080 ti, an 8 year old gpu, plays PS5 games over 120 fps native without upscaling
Anonymous No.725040907 [Report] >>725041072
>>725040838
what resolution and what games are you hitting 120fps with?
Anonymous No.725040947 [Report] >>725041154
>$2000 PC (that's not counting a single month of PSN tax and more expensive games)
>similar performance to PS5

Jesus christ how fucking stupid can console tards be?
Anonymous No.725041072 [Report] >>725041209
>>725040907
Look it up on the internet. They used better or equal settings than the PS5.
Anonymous No.725041154 [Report]
>>725040947
>BUT MUH MAGIC SSD, MUH 4K, MUCH 120FPS(Only a few multiplayer games), BUT 30 FPS IS BETTER!
Anonymous No.725041209 [Report] >>725041410
>>725041072
>I'm playing games at 120fps on an 8 year old gpu
>really, which ones?
>you should look it up yourself on the internet
did you just make it up?
Anonymous No.725041347 [Report] >>725041445
>>725040352
my lil nigga, ps5 is a zen2 processor with a rx6600
Anonymous No.725041410 [Report] >>725041449
>>725041209
Where's the I'm?
Anonymous No.725041445 [Report] >>725042347 >>725042467 >>725043051
>>725041347
And it's doing an awesome job of keeping up with modern PC graphics cards.
Anonymous No.725041449 [Report] >>725042890
>>725041410
>i did make it up
Anonymous No.725041567 [Report]
>>725031051
GTA isn't a game. It's a cleverly disguised propaganda mouthpiece.
Anonymous No.725041571 [Report]
why do pc-muppets hate the fact a cheap console can play the same games as their pc?
Anonymous No.725041624 [Report] >>725041686 >>725041737
>>725040573
More like they work worse than on PC. This isn't a case of subjective preferences. They're objectively more limited and thus inferior on consoles.
Anonymous No.725041686 [Report]
>>725041624
>they don't work
>they do work
>well they work worserer
lol
Anonymous No.725041737 [Report]
>>725041624
name all the control methods you've used in the last 6 months
Anonymous No.725041859 [Report] >>725042110 >>725042289
>>725040573
I have a T300 wheel with a third party shifter, the PS5 cannot read the shifter despite the fact that it connects via bog standard USB-A and the actual computer hardware hardware bit, the board, is a laughably simple button board with 10 buttons. Consoles are fucking stupid.
Anonymous No.725041881 [Report] >>725041906
>>725030745 (OP)
Because you get 8x the versatility, being able to play your games, have everything else in the background run even while doing so, using programs you want when you want and how you want, and having them do what you want when you want it.

Then you've got thousands of games, each of them unique in their owns ways, to play compared to it's 14 that are exclusive to the PS5.

And while we still have to pay to have internet access, we aren't paying YET ANOTHER company for access to the ability to play with others on top of our internet access.
Anonymous No.725041906 [Report] >>725041953
>>725041881
I really don't want more distractions when playing games.
Anonymous No.725041953 [Report] >>725041997 >>725042327
>>725041906
You control what software runs on your computer
Anonymous No.725041964 [Report] >>725042434
I recently buyoughted a gaming computer and it came with a display port... port.

And everything looks amazing when I use it. The colors look so lush and there is such a big contrast vs my PS5 on my main television. And this is WITHOUT HDR on my computer vs HDR on the television. So, I attributed this to the display port.

But I was reading online that it doesn't make any difference because signals can't use the entire bandwidth of display port anyway or whatever. And when I use the HDMI port instead yeah everything looks more detailed vs the Snoystation but I don't get this amazing color and contrast effect.

So like if that's the case can someone explain this? Like this looks retardedly amazing.
Anonymous No.725041997 [Report]
>>725041953
I control what platform I play on, and consoles are better for it.
Anonymous No.725042110 [Report] >>725042284
>>725041859
Anonymous No.725042284 [Report] >>725042330
>>725042110
when you buy crap like this and the online fee console becomes more expensive than pc for worse experiences. it just doesn't make any sense to me.
Anonymous No.725042289 [Report] >>725042527
>>725041859
Drive hub allows all wheels, pedals, shifters etc to work
Anonymous No.725042327 [Report] >>725042527
>>725041953
>here, let me just set this bowl of candy, baggy of weed, line of coke, and porno mag right here beside you
>only use what you want though
Anonymous No.725042330 [Report] >>725042545 >>725042664
>>725042284
>complains can't use stuff
>yes you can
>but you have to pay for it
Anonymous No.725042347 [Report]
>>725041445
with FSR brother
Anonymous No.725042434 [Report]
>>725041964
they should look identical unless something is broken on one of them
Anonymous No.725042451 [Report]
>>725030745 (OP)
>he doesn't play in 8k on the PS5
Anonymous No.725042467 [Report] >>725042536
>>725041445
yeah
that's why people would rather get the pc parts instead
Anonymous No.725042527 [Report] >>725042620 >>725042683 >>725043541
>>725042289
>100 bucks to plug a fucking usb button board
or they could update the USB drivers to register inputs from generic boards
shouldn't be a thing
>>725042327
you brought those things, they were not there to begin with, if you have so little self control it's your own damn problem
Anonymous No.725042536 [Report] >>725042767
>>725042467
>ps5 sells 80million consoles
>that's why people would rather buy pc bits instead
Anonymous No.725042545 [Report]
>>725042330
I can just connect it to pc without buying any $100 third party crap
Anonymous No.725042620 [Report]
>>725042527
>>100 bucks to plug a fucking usb button board
omg 100 bucks to use your old wheel and not buy a new one.
I hate thirdies
Anonymous No.725042664 [Report] >>725042709 >>725042761
>>725042330
exacly
you need to buy something to spoof the hardware id otherwise your walled garden of a console won't accept it
honestly fuck that
Anonymous No.725042683 [Report] >>725047051 >>725047429
>>725042527
The computer has easy access to distracting, time-wasting, addicting bullshit in mere seconds, just an alt-tab away. Not an issue with console
Anonymous No.725042709 [Report]
>>725042664
Thank goodness, I prefer having obstacles for cheaters unlike on PC.
Anonymous No.725042761 [Report]
>>725042664
>you need to spend 100 to play games with a wheel
my sim rig cost about 20k lol
Anonymous No.725042767 [Report] >>725042807
>>725042536
>80 million people line up to eat shit
why don't you want to eat shit anon?
Anonymous No.725042778 [Report]
>>725030745 (OP)
Obviously pc has a higher ceiling, nobody is arguing with that. But it’s pretty much never worth the cost for gaming. Op is right.
Anonymous No.725042807 [Report] >>725042928
>>725042767
>playing games is the same as eating shit
Anonymous No.725042808 [Report]
>>725030745 (OP)
Couple years ago, I built a PC roughly equivalent to a PS5, for about $400.
Anonymous No.725042861 [Report]
jesus christ i forgot for a second who's the absolute retard i'm arguing with
hope you enjoyed the (You)s there m8
Anonymous No.725042890 [Report] >>725042967
>>725041449
What part did I make up? Are you incapable of using the internet?
Anonymous No.725042897 [Report]
>>725030745 (OP)
>PC games are one purchase and they last forever
>Don't have to pay extra for online
>Mods
>PC exclusives
>Emulators for non-PC games
I don't know why I bothered replying
Anonymous No.725042919 [Report]
>why does nobody get my analogy that chewing turds is like playing video games
>reeeeeeee
Anonymous No.725042928 [Report] >>725042994
>>725042807
you tell me, you are the expert on eating shit
Anonymous No.725042967 [Report]
>>725042890
what games are running at 120fps and what resolution ?
Anonymous No.725042980 [Report]
>>725040481
Abuse, Doom, Descent.
Anonymous No.725042994 [Report]
>>725042928
never tried it.
Anonymous No.725043014 [Report] >>725045578
>>725030787
Yeah, that’s not far off from what modern GPUs these days run games at despite being 4x the cost
Anonymous No.725043051 [Report] >>725043142
>>725041445
Mostly because Nvidia gets devs to fuck over optimization on purpose.
Anonymous No.725043054 [Report] >>725043146
once again /v/ larpers all jump into a console thread to act like they have 5090s
Anonymous No.725043082 [Report] >>725043115 >>725043207
Comparing the full price of a gaming PC to a console is stupid. I already need a PC for other things besides playing games, upgrading it to a gaming PC is basically just the price of a GPU and a slightly better PSU which you can get for a similar price to a console for more performance. The real price difference is much smaller.
Anonymous No.725043115 [Report]
>>725043082
what gpu did you buy?
Anonymous No.725043142 [Report] >>725043417
>>725043051
Interesting conspiracy, thankfully not a problem on consoles.
Anonymous No.725043146 [Report] >>725043204
>>725043054
Anonymous No.725043204 [Report] >>725043256
>>725043146
>i'm insecure about my 5090 and feel better like to shit on consoles
got it
Anonymous No.725043207 [Report] >>725043248 >>725043287 >>725043505
>>725043082
You don’t need an expensive pc to have 99% of master race benefits. You can buy a 500 dollar laptop that is perfectly adequate for necessary stuff and a ps5 for gaming for roughly 1k. That’s way better than buying a gigantic immobile shitty desktop for double the price
Anonymous No.725043248 [Report] >>725043375
>>725043207
>potatoid thinks his glorified "console killer" makes him part of the master race
Anonymous No.725043256 [Report] >>725043345
>>725043204
go back to flipping my burger pal
Anonymous No.725043287 [Report] >>725043375
>>725043207
>That’s way better than buying a gigantic immobile shitty desktop for double the price
No, it's really not. Also laptops are an even bigger scam because you can't upgrade and if one part breaks you're fucked.
Anonymous No.725043307 [Report]
Since the 90s a PC is an appliance I must have in my house like a clothes dryer. I just build one that can play games. I can live without game consoles.
Anonymous No.725043345 [Report]
>>725043256
why would I do that when I can get faggots like you to do it for me?
Anonymous No.725043375 [Report] >>725043498 >>725043685 >>725043718
>>725043287
The funny thing is though is that laptops rarely break and desktops break way more.

>>725043248
I don’t even like pc gaming at all. You still need a cheap one for daily stuff though.
Anonymous No.725043417 [Report]
>>725043142
Less of a problem since some games still run poorly.
Anonymous No.725043491 [Report]
>>725030745 (OP)
>4x
Try 1.5x to 2x depending on whether you already have a monitor and nice headphones.
Anonymous No.725043498 [Report]
>>725043375
>The funny thing is though is that laptops rarely break and desktops break way more.
I've had desktop PCs for over 20 years and nothing ever broke, my college laptop GPU broke after 3 years
Anonymous No.725043505 [Report]
>>725043207
You can buy a gaming PC for 500 dollars and save 500 dollars for gacha pulls.
Anonymous No.725043513 [Report] >>725049151
>>725030787
>play on a 720p pc screen
Anonymous No.725043541 [Report]
>>725042527
It’s on the devs to make sure their products work on the console, not the other way around. The entire point of consoles is to not have to waste money troubleshooting a billion different hardware configs.
I also don’t know just how third world and generic your setup is but $100 for drivehub is nothing compared to even a half decent wheel. I can’t help but think you’re just crying for the sake of crying and grasping at straws here.
Anonymous No.725043668 [Report]
>>725030745 (OP)
>Games on PC are cheaper, even disregarding piracy
>Better catalogue, actually, the best catalogue ever
>Can´t be upgraded periodically
>You can use it for more than gamming
>Modding
Anonymous No.725043685 [Report] >>725043815 >>725045163
>>725043375
>You still need a cheap one for daily stuff though.
You don't funny enough, you can do everything a PC can on a phone these days.
Anonymous No.725043715 [Report]
A console is a device designed to play games at a specific price point.
A PC is a general multi-purpose device designed to do a myriad of different things.
Claiming one shouldn't exist because a PC exists is like saying a motorbike shouldn't exist because a van exists. It's retarded
Anonymous No.725043718 [Report]
>>725043375
>You still need a cheap one for daily stuff though.
No you don’t, haven’t for like a decade. Everything works on tablets if not phones, that’s all everyone uses today.
Anonymous No.725043743 [Report]
I bought a refurbished Thinkpad for 200 dollars and it works almost as well as my gaming PC for normal tasks. I might buy a PS5 because I like having a device for the living room.
Anonymous No.725043815 [Report] >>725043929 >>725044004
>>725043685
Google is locking down Android so that argument is permanently fucked now.
Anonymous No.725043929 [Report] >>725044016
>>725043815
Doesn't matter, you do it all in web browsers.
Anonymous No.725044004 [Report] >>725044083
>>725043815
No it isn’t, Macs have been locked down forever and Windows is locking everything down as fast as they can. So it is indeed correct that a locked down phone can do the same things a locked down PC can.
Anonymous No.725044016 [Report] >>725044193
>>725043929
Android is a toy now, just like the iPhone. No different than a console.
Anonymous No.725044083 [Report] >>725044220
>>725044004
I will never install the malware known as Windows 11 so I cannot comment on that.
Anonymous No.725044193 [Report] >>725044384
>>725044016
Weirdly autistic perspective, point stands you can do everything a pc can do on phones these days. Nobody "needs" a pc any more.
Anonymous No.725044220 [Report] >>725044586
>>725044083
>it's malware
>because it won't let me run my pirated stuffs
Anonymous No.725044384 [Report] >>725044967
>>725044193
Its the most fundamental difference between a computer and a toy. If you cannot freely program and install applications on your own then you are just using a device for coonsuming content.
Anonymous No.725044586 [Report]
>>725044220
Windows 11 still allows piracy I think. They haven't gone full Unit 8200 yet.
Anonymous No.725044967 [Report]
>>725044384
You can do all of this on a phone, but you aren't doing it on anything you're using a web browser like me on my phone.
Anonymous No.725045163 [Report] >>725045665
>>725043685
A phone costs more than similarly performing laptop and is basically disposable since you can't replace the battery easily like a laptop
Anonymous No.725045578 [Report] >>725048567
>>725043014
Anonymous No.725045665 [Report]
>>725045163
desu you get better performance from cheap phones than cheap laptops
Anonymous No.725045753 [Report]
>>725030745 (OP)
>>725031485
You don't buy any games, you just keep shilling the console that failed to out-sale the PS4, to PC gamers of all things.
Anonymous No.725045819 [Report] >>725046032
>>725031676
>>725034193
Your console is a PC, moron.
Anonymous No.725045898 [Report]
>>725040021
r/DenuvoOffline
So much for scrapping the bottom of the barrel for an exception.
>inb4 REDDIT!!! I WON!!! Haha.
Anonymous No.725046032 [Report] >>725046168
>>725045819
Smartest guy on reddit
Anonymous No.725046068 [Report] >>725054594 >>725054980
>>725036910
>ask for more VRAM than most GPUs have by a narrow margin
You realize that consoles use the same RAM for system ram, right? This is the only time I've seen someone attempt to excuse it with this.
Anonymous No.725046168 [Report]
>>725046032
>The x86, AMD console isn't a PC, actually.
Prove it isn't, redditschizo.
Anonymous No.725046410 [Report] >>725049303
for me; it's the Greatness.
Anonymous No.725047000 [Report]
>>725030745 (OP)
My PC plays games I want to play. PS5 mostly doesn't.
Anonymous No.725047051 [Report]
>>725042683
Only an issue if you're a nigger with no self control.
Anonymous No.725047429 [Report]
>>725042683
It sounds like you just don't enjoy the games you're playing very much.
Anonymous No.725047469 [Report] >>725049217
because i can play whatever game i want, the way i want and also use my pc for other things, and ps5 only runs modern slop, there's only a handful of modern games worth playing at best
Anonymous No.725047731 [Report]
>>725030745 (OP)
Because a gaming PC on PAR is like $800. And with the increase of price on the base model....less than 2x of a PS5. Remember it's a 2020 release, so probably 2019 parts at BEST.

STILL

If you wanted JUST a games machine that WILL play games with no need for upgrading parts....

There ya go.
Don't factor in prices of games to adjust PS5 shit, this is purely console and PC of era appropriate build 2020.
Anonymous No.725048004 [Report] >>725054228
>>725030972
Dude, fuck off with PC GAME R FWEE shit.
We know that, 99% of ppl buy steam library stuff on sales anyway.

Being a pirate is cool, but NO ONE FUCKING CARES IN 2025! THEY DIDN'T CARE IN 1996 WHEN I HAD PLAYSTATION BURN DISCS, THEY DON'T THINK YOUR COOL NOW!
Anonymous No.725048195 [Report] >>725049089
While I disagree that saving a few bucks on a console is worth not getting a gaming pc, I can at least understand the argument. However "people" in this thread try to argue that you actually get just as good a gaming experience on a console? How?
>I can just get a mouse and keyboard like a pc
>I can play online like a pc
>I just use my Iphone to listen to music when I´m playing...

My point is, the "people" arguing that a console is just as good as a gaming pc, their arguments revolve around the console being able to do what a gaming pc does. A man with a good gaming pc, about to turn on a game he´s been looking forward to never once thought "God I wish I was playing this on a console with a controller" Never fucking happened in human history.
Playing Baldurs Gate 3 on a fucking controller while you lay on your couch? What the fuck is the matter with these people?
Civ6-Civ7 on a fucking controller? Are you even self aware at that point?
The fucking cope-assist on every First Person Shooter?
Not only does console players ruin game for themselves, they ruin games for pc players, because they don´t have the decency to not play games they have no business playing. Then they go on the internet on their smartphones and defend their bad taste with logical fallacies.
Anonymous No.725048567 [Report]
>>725045578
Exactly
Anonymous No.725048793 [Report] >>725050658
Built a $2k PC a few months ago and I already feel like I fell for the biggest meme in existence.
>novelty of graphix wore off
>novelty of mods wore off
>piracy is "easier" but pirating console games have been easy for a long time
>only FPSslop or FPSslop disguised as RPGs benefit from mouse and keyboard, every other game you are breaking out the controller
>every PC game actually worth released in the early 90s and before, playable on a shitty laptop
>Steam serfdom
>constant tinkertranny experience, visit pcgamingwiki for every game just to have a decent experience, wrestle with either windows 10/11 or troonix
But yes PC is better than consoles NOW because new consoles are just shittier PCs.
Anonymous No.725049089 [Report]
>>725048195
not everyone wants to play civ7 or play with a kb/mouse. I have a PC and don't do either of those things.
>the "people" arguing that a console is just as good as a gaming pc,
they're saying that games played on a console are still enjoyable and sometimes preferable than having to play on PC, especially when a good PC costs multiple x the price of a console.
Anonymous No.725049151 [Report]
>>725043513
Then just get a PS4
Anonymous No.725049217 [Report]
>>725047469
what pc did you buy to play old games?
Anonymous No.725049303 [Report]
>>725046410
spoiler that shit bro I just puked a little
Anonymous No.725050658 [Report] >>725050704 >>725053813
>>725048793
>novelty of graphix wore off
Which means you can turn the graphics down to get better performance. Or choose to not upgrade for the next decade and still be able to play new games. Can't do either on console.
>novelty of mods wore off
Then don't use them?
>pirating console games have been easy for a long time
How are you going to pirate ps5, xbox s s/x or switch 2 games? None of them have been hacked yet.
>every other game you are breaking out the controller
Maybe you are. I like kbm so unless the game is genuinely much better on controller, I'm using kbm. That's the best thing about PC. Choice. Try using kbm on console. Only a handful of games support it, meanwhile every game works with both kbm and controller on PC.
>every PC game actually worth released in the early 90s and before
All modern games come to both PC and console, so you're also saying that modern consoles have no games of worth either. In that case, a PC is better because it can play all old console game as well as all old PC games.
>Steam serfdom
As opposed to the freedom you have on a locked down DRMbox like consoles?
>constant tinkertranny experience, visit pcgamingwiki for every game just to have a decent experience, wrestle with either windows 10/11 or troonix
Genuinely when have you last used a PC? It's on pretty much the same level of plug and play as consoles now. Even on Linux.
Anonymous No.725050704 [Report] >>725051321 >>725051886
>>725050658
There is no freedom without physical.
Anonymous No.725051321 [Report] >>725051415 >>725052326
>>725050704
piracy
Anonymous No.725051415 [Report] >>725051886 >>725052010
>>725051321
After getting into console piracy, pc piracy is a joke.
Anonymous No.725051886 [Report] >>725052326
>>725050704
There is no freedom with DRM. Physical or digital is irrelevant, and I suspect the argument is being propped up by DRM companies to draw attention away from the real enemy.
>>725051415
>console piracy
And how are you doing that on current gen consoles? None of them are hacked yet.
Anonymous No.725052010 [Report] >>725052326
>>725051415
What relation does that have to the notion that piracy is also property freedom for digital media?
Anonymous No.725052326 [Report] >>725052739 >>725053843
>>725052010
>>725051886
I'm not the one who brought up piracy as an alternative to freedom or ownership. Direct those questions at: >>725051321 I provided an answer that console piracy exists and is superior. Anyone with a modded console will tell you this.
Anonymous No.725052394 [Report]
>>725030745 (OP)
I have a PC that cost around 3x as much as a PS5, with similar performance... which I got in 2019.
In 2025 it shouldn't cost that much, to aim for PS5-level performance. Or you could spend the same ~$1,500 and get something a LOT more powerful than a PS5
Anonymous No.725052739 [Report] >>725053040 >>725053790
>>725052326
>I'm not the one who brought up piracy as an alternative to freedom or ownership.
Well piss off then. You added nothing to the discourse.
>console piracy exists and is superior
In the uncommon case where the console hardware is actually important, like the DS or Wii, that may be true, but in most cases the console piracy does absolutely nothing to ameliorate the core issues with consoles that drive people to PC in the first place. Still can't use MKB for anything that would benefit from it, still can't get above 60 fps except for the most modern consoles, still can't use controllers the system wasn't made to support.
Anonymous No.725053040 [Report] >>725053176
>>725052739
nta, but you are an unlikeable bellend
Anonymous No.725053176 [Report]
>>725053040
lmao
Anonymous No.725053258 [Report]
>he spent $3000 just to play the same games
Anonymous No.725053330 [Report]
Free games you idiot
Anonymous No.725053549 [Report]
>>725030972
Anonymous No.725053790 [Report] >>725054451
>>725052739
>Still can't use MKB for anything that would benefit from it
false and also lmao why would you ever want to.
>bro I'm killing it in astrobot with the keyboard!!!
nobody has ever thought something so insane before.
>still can't get above 60 fps
lil bro is stuck in 2008. Even then a modded 360 is a superior experience to a PC.
>still can't use controllers the system wasn't made to support.
lmfao dude is so unaware.
Anonymous No.725053813 [Report] >>725054932
>>725050658
>Which means you can turn the graphics down to get better performance.
>Or choose to not upgrade for the next decade and still be able to play new games.
Every game worth playing will run 60 fps on decade old hardware.
>Then don't use them?
It was more that it's a common selling point PC gamers use to shame console players, but when you actually get to experience it its really just being a cuck working for free to fix someone's shitty game for them.
>How are you going to ps5, xbox s s/x or switch 2 games?
I wouldn't because they have nothing worth playing.
>unless the game is genuinely much better on controller
I.e. nearly all of them
>As opposed to the freedom you have
To actually own games physically? Yes. It's insane how people have been psyoped into thinking Steam's model is okay.
>It's pretty much the same level of plug and play as consoles now. Even on Linux.
Lol
Anonymous No.725053843 [Report] >>725054009
>>725052326
>console piracy exists and is superior
And you didn't answer how you're pirating games on a current gen console. Because you can't. I also don't see how it's superior anyway.
Anonymous No.725053856 [Report]
>>725035148
It's no side effect, it's a direct consequence of your shitboxes being too weak to do anything complex.
Anonymous No.725054009 [Report] >>725055018
>>725053843
To some extent, it's possible to run emulators on Xbox Series consoles, so there is something of a door to piracy there.
But not for actual current gen X/S optimized games
Anonymous No.725054019 [Report] >>725054332
>>725030745 (OP)
Because a PC is a PC
It does everything

A PS5 is a PC with its legs cut off that is "cheaper" but still significantly expensive. The pricing model is legitimately too niche to keep surviving.

Never mind the fact that that charges you to use online services and has very expensive games and peripherals which end up counteracting the cheaper upfront cost of the "budget PC" that is the PS5 anyway
Anonymous No.725054120 [Report]
>>725030745 (OP)
PC is an enthusiast platform. You get what you pay for and that is better performance and visuals. For some, that is worth the price
Anonymous No.725054228 [Report]
>>725048004
Its still a very legitimate point to make when weighing up pros and cons of PC to Console

Its incredibly easy to pirate games on PC or at least pickup games very cheaply with sales or from key reselling sites. Something that just isnt nearly as possible or accessible on a console. Never mind the fact that you can do whatever you like on your PC, its your machine, but if papasony catches you trying to go online after hacking your console you get banned from all online functionalities which is just ridiculous to do to someone when you're asking for that much money upfront to invest in the console.
Anonymous No.725054332 [Report]
>>725054019
Also the PS5 doesn't have exclusive games, as past PlayStations did. Starting this gen Sony has been releasing everything on PC. In some cases you just might have to wait a year or two
Anonymous No.725054451 [Report] >>725054647 >>725054736
>>725053790
>false and also lmao why would you ever want to.
Every game with aiming is going to be better experienced with a mouse than a joystick. It's no coincidence that Nintendo games from Mario to Zelda to Splatoon supported OTS pointer controls while at the same time have put more effort into gyro than anyone. Because joysticks aren't good for aiming.
>Even then a modded 360 is a superior experience to a PC.
Explain how the modded 360 can play anything at 175 fps in ultrawide. Unless you're able to switch out the components then that Ninja Gaiden II is going to chug exactly like it's 2008. And for all that effort a sane person just gets a PC.
Anonymous No.725054594 [Report]
>>725046068
>You realize that consoles use the same RAM for system ram
No.
Anonymous No.725054647 [Report] >>725054794
>>725054451
>Every game with aiming.
99% of games with aiming is causal garbage. Unironically.
Anonymous No.725054736 [Report] >>725055461
>>725054451
>Every game with aiming
Nope, skill issue. Sorry aim community.
>Explain how
I drag and drop game folder and everything runs lmao owned
Anonymous No.725054794 [Report] >>725054967
>>725054647
Riveting. Take this last (You) and pursue the shitposting with someone else.
Anonymous No.725054932 [Report]
>>725053813
>Every game worth playing will run 60 fps on decade old hardware
Only if it gets ported to that hardware. Most current gen games don't get ported to last gen consoles even when they run on comparable PCs just fine by turning down the graphics.
>its really just being a cuck working for free to fix someone's shitty game for them
Not really. Mods aren't just used for fixing broken games. They can also add content or improve already good games. Just because you don't personally care about them doesn't mean they're not a selling point to others.
>I wouldn't because they have nothing worth playing
Based, but in that case, why not use a PC? It has a larger library of old games than any console.
>I.e. nearly all of them
Kind of a personal preference thing. Most games play at least equally well on kbm as controller, and many play better because you have more buttons and can map actions to buttons that on controller would be behind a menu, like switching weapond. If a game plays equally well on both, I'd rather use kbm, you'd rather use controller. Neither is right or wrong. Just preference.
>To actually own games physically
And how does that matter? You might own the physical piece of plastic, but your ability to actually play the game is purely at the mercy of sony, ms or nintendo. On PC, Valve can't take my games away because I can back them up.
>Lol
Yes it is. It's not quite as good, but 99% of games will just work with sane default controls and graphics when you click play. Even on Linux due to Proton. It's up to you if you want to tinker beyond that.
Anonymous No.725054967 [Report]
>>725054794
>nyoo my click on head games are hardcoreeee
FPS was an abortion of a genre.
Anonymous No.725054980 [Report]
>>725046068
>You realize that consoles use the same RAM for system ram, right?
Yes, and this makes for hilarious times when the poorer PC user finds out his 4GB card isn't actually good enough. RE engine games were good for that. On console they used 4+GB of the 6GB system RAM to store textures, shaders, framebuffers, etc. because they could. But on PC that's a problem because the shared buffers from compute shaders and intermediate work buffers have to be duplicated and some of that VRAM has to be given over to windows overhead. Result was the 2013 shared ram low end APU was outperforming their "good for the whole gen" bargain 1060 or whatever. It happened again with the PS5 where games that were allocating 8GB of the PS5 for stuff that has to live on VRAM on the PC were shutting the door on the 6GB clan.
Anonymous No.725055018 [Report]
>>725054009
>To some extent
So it's much more limited than PC, and thus not better.
Anonymous No.725055150 [Report]
>>725030745 (OP)
I have a job that requires the use of a PC and I don't want an extra piece of tech in my house just to play 1-2 exclusives when 75% of my gaming time is spent playing free to play slop like league of legends and other 10+ year old games.
Anonymous No.725055461 [Report] >>725056243
>>725054736
>I drag and drop game folder and everything runs...
...like shit. No amount of dragging and dropping will make the 20 year old hardware run games better than it did 20 years ago.
Anonymous No.725056243 [Report] >>725057012
>>725055461
Stop replying.
Anonymous No.725057012 [Report]
>>725056243
Alright. Oh shit my bad I just replied.