Thread 725055005

Which races are /v/ approved?

>>725055005 (OP)
Human race

Elf.
/fpbp

White, and certain kinds of Asian.

>>725055005 (OP)
Halfling
Dwarf
Dragonborn, but only to laugh at Larian, because Dragonborn animations are scuffed as shit.

>>725055064
>HFY
>>>/reddit/

They're all just humans anyway, who cares. Nothing interesting at all.

>>725055005 (OP)
>White Male, Paladin, Lawful Good, Dark Urge
Yup, it's kino time.

>>725055005 (OP)
All except tiefling, which are reddit tumblr deviantart tier

Since /v/ is majority brown, it's certainly not elves.

>>725055005 (OP)
Any race that hate elves.

>>725055182
Noldor are based, all other elves are cringe.

I fucking hate elves so much it's unreal.

Elves, dwarves and gnomes. H*mans, Frodo halfwits and mixed blood monstrosities need not apply.

>>725055005 (OP)
>99% of intelligent species are humanoid
Modern sci-fi and fantasy are creatively bankrupt

Drow
Gith
Dragonborn

Gityhanki because they are just as ugly as I am.
Also dwarf.

>>725055005 (OP)
aragonians in the cleaning service industry.

>>725055151
Which is annoying as fuck because I want to play some brutish (ideally abysal demon, not devil ) horned monster from the lower planes and look like the Balrog from LOTR.

Instead you have to play as some twinkish femboy who looks like he's cosplaying a homosexual stripper on halloween.

>>725055005 (OP)
Every race but Tiefling

>>725055310
>Frodo halfwits and mixed blood monstrosities need not apply.
What about Dragonborn and Gith, they don't fall under that.

>>725055360
>>725055124

>>725055005 (OP)
>/v/ approved?
how could this possibly be relevant to your life?

In order of decreasing approval
>Human
>Dwarf
>Halfling
>Gith
>Dragonborn
>Tiefling
>Drow
>Gnome
>Half-Orc
>Half-Elf
>Elf

>>725055005 (OP)
all except the demon and lizard people

White Human Male.

>>725055604
What?!

>>725055005 (OP)
I exclusively play as a White human female lesbian who, eventually, performs oral sex on Shadowheart.

>>725055938
That's very gay.

>>725056014
Lesbian, not gay. Gay is two dudes.

>>725055604
After seeing this image for +10 years it felt strange watching her anime

>lolth-sworn are matriarchal, cringe
>seldarine are boring gary stus
why are drow men so lame?

>>725056107
who's gonna tell him....

>>725055709
Correct except the ranking of gnomes depends on whether they are (((gnomes))).

>>725055938
Tradcuck zoomoids are gonna freak

>>725056107
I see. Thanks for clearing that up

>>725055005 (OP)
Purge all stock fantasy races.

You play as a human or fuck you.

I fucking love tiefling girl

>>725056270
why is that cringe

>>725055005 (OP)
Human male
Drow female
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/4e3V9HO1ZJA

>>725056421
Do you think they masturbate using their tail?

Human Male Fighter and Drow Female.

>>725055005 (OP)
Tau

>>725056519
Wouldn't you?

Human
Dwarf
Elf

Anything else is freakshit.

>>725056716
When did this retarded puritan shit come back in vogue?

>>725055005 (OP)
Mongolian

>>725056716
>>725056954
surely you need to have a small race

WHITE ONLY

>>725055005 (OP)
I always go for Dorf monk if I can, I like playing as a manlet that punches things

>>725056954
>this is the same dude that comes to the table with his HECKIN' chungus Tiefling who's a nice guy despite it all

>>725056954
A backlash from people sick of tranny bullshit. Every game, EVERY GAME, needed a vitiligo slider?

>>725057162
Khelgar is that you

>>725057437
Oh, I see. You're one of those people. Makes sense.

>>725057457
I never understood why you retards got so mad about shit that you don't have to use. It's pretty pathetic.

>>725057476
Khelgar was my favorite companion in NWN2

>>725055005 (OP)
for me its
Human male (white) x Female Tiefling/Drow/Human/Half-Elf

>>725057580
NTA but the vitiligo slider push was really weird. It all started around the same time with Diablo 4 and BG3 in the summer of 2023. Before then, practically no games really had this stuff. Must have been an ESG directive or something, as it was easy and quick to implement, so it felt very performative. Especially when there's no breast sliders which is something people actually want.

>>725057715
>human male (self-insert) x literally anything with a pussy I can fuck

>>725055064
Based human supremacist
FUCK VISARI
FUCK ADVENT
TEC ABOVE ALL

>>725056653
No. I'm saving myself

Dorf

>>725055005 (OP)
Around elves watch yourselves

>>725057457
That's you Synth, isn't it? I recognize your prose

>>725057647
NWN1 had a dwarf monk follower too
its an odd class for a dwarf, I much more prefer a crazy fuck like a battlerager that fights with a spiked armor

>>725058137
Love the dwarf KKK hat.

>>725055005 (OP)
Drow.

>>725055005 (OP)
All races are approved as long as they're purebred racist assholes who all hate each other but have a camaraderie anyway in spite of it. Bring in your tieflings and dragonborn and whateverthefuck as long as they're racist assholes who hate everyone else not like them.

>>725058137
It is a bit of a weird choice in 3.5 DnD, but it works well enough in pathfinder since they also get +2 to Wis and unchained monks have full BAB in that system

>>725055005 (OP)
>human
>dwarf
>human but short (halfling)
>lizard
>6 forgettable variants of elf

>>725055005 (OP)
Dragonborn but only for a Dark Urge playthrough, Human, Drow, or Half-Elf for everything else

>>725056421
fucking a teethling must feel awful

whoever rapes

>>725058540
why censor it? are you a fag?

>>725058540
Shart if she demon

>>725058613
jannies will rape me if i don't

>>725058679
don't be a pansy

>>725058540
Why do they look like this now anyway when they were just humans with a tail in the past?

>>725059025
leftist retards cant handle subtlety thats why

>>725055005 (OP)
Drow and Gith because le based fascistic slavers and murderers
Human because le based human fighter
Gnome because contrarianism

>>725059239
Gnomes aren't contrarian at all imo, best midget race for magic.

>>725059304
I’ve never seen anyone, be it in the context of BG3 or DnD in general, play a Gnome for non-meta reasons

Half Wood Elf for that Human+ experience.

>>725059025
They weren't just 'humans with a tail'.
They could have various deformities/physical traits, not conformed to just horn/tail like they are now. They were probably changed because wotc wanted to streamline their look for ease when designing them for video games or something.

>>725058679
FAG

>in universe master race
>creator of the settings pet race
>gets the most unique dialogue to the point it had two separate versions with more unique lines than most races got on their own
>people rightly fear you
Why would you choose anything but Drow?

>>725059521
i see
well they look incredibly gay now, but i guess all nuDnD things look gay so whatever

>>725059025
Standardization. Once Tieflings would have random traits, when they became a core race wizards had to standardize them and sanitize their lore a bit.

>>725059837
>"master race" makes armor which disappears the second they step put of their bdsm goon cave

>>725059967
Don't talk to elfoids, their delusion cannot be broken and it's pointless to try.

>>725059926
It's sad, because nothing really stopped them from looking like right back then. They just removed customization for players, but then again. Nothing of it matters for actual DnD, since you just make up the rules yourself.

>>725055515
This, everything but the wholesome chungus devil race.

>>725059967
>going to the surface
NGMI

>>725060142
GET GON YE GOLEM
THE LIGHT COMPELS YOU

>>725060107
Craziest thing was making Dragonborn into a core race. Like before 4e they were reimpregnation fetish super soldiers, and now they are just random dragon people that had to be shoehorned into literally ever setting even if they didn't exist in there before.

>>725059492
Zesty

>>725055005 (OP)
Human.
Elves, dwarfs, and halflings are acceptable companions.

The mutts are abominations.
The thieflings and (((gnomes))) should be eradicated.
The frogs and scalies also get the rope.

>>725055005 (OP)
drow of course

>>725059837
They're evil. Oh, you're talking about BG3. I don't know, I still feel like all drow are evil, so they don't fit into the narrative of BG3's story as the hero. I'd love for a IWD style game in BG3's engine, would fit a Drow party member so much more.

>>725055005 (OP)
>Elf
>Elf with horns
>Nigger elf
>Human
>Green elf
>Dorf
>Racemixed elf
>Bilbo baggins
>Racist halfling
>Scaly elf
>El atrocidad del America
Yeah, I'm picking human/dwarf/gnome every time

>>725060302
You are able to choose a non-lolth drow, though everyone still thinks your are evil for obvious reasons.

>>725055225
>>725055249
Based dwarfposters

>>725060338
has anybody made an ai of this bitch stripping yet?

I didn't really like how BG3 made Faerun feel like the sword coast/Baldur's Gate were the center of the whole world with how world ending the threats were.

>>725055005 (OP)
I could understand a human getting with an elf, but how desperate and/or depraved are you that you get with an orc?

>>725060919
Well up until 4e they were heavily implied to be rape babies

are there any games with fantasy characters like werewolves and orcs but isn't a table top RPG? something more like Skyrim?

>>725060230
Yeah, I still can't mentally get over it to accept them as baseline race rather than some level adjusted monster race from questionable supplement PCs are probably not meant to be or something.

>>725060919
You get raped like the women in Arcanum

>>725060701
do it yourself retard, there’s free ai shit everywhere

>>725060919
Are you implying half orcs are from consensual relationships?

>>725060562
I believe in Noldor supremacy

>>725058540
Yeah I'm not personally a big fun of the vaguely scaly look they gave them in bg3.

>>725055517
ah yes, not mixed blood monstrosities but JUST monstrosities. No thanks.

>>725060294
>>725061138
what does purple skin smell like

People like to make fun of humans for being the overplayed race but i swear to god every single theater kid out there with a snowflake syndrome plays a horny thiefling while trying really hard to emulate Tony Starks personality.

>>725056653
You got the sauce?

>>725061219
Lavender and a hint of whiskey

>>725061452
it's my oc I get commissions of lol

As a gay furry I love Dragonborn
As a munchkin I play Human

>>725055005 (OP)
My first playthrough? Half-orc Warlock.
My second playthrough? Half-orc Paladin Dark Urge.
Half-orcs are cool.

>>725055005 (OP)
>gnome
>warlock
>rapist
No further questions.

>>725060725
Why would Jaheira, Viconia and Minsc all be back in Baldur's Gate. Gortash, like the most senior cleric of Bane got an army of death robots. Fucking Sarevok is back in Baldur's Gate, why.
Hardly a mention of the Githzerai annoyed me as well.

For me, it's Drow.

>>725061219
purple drank
>>725061278
probably because they're the loud minority, the most played one is still human male
my first BG3 character was a tiefling because i wanted to play a dick ass thief, but when i found an entire rapefugee camp full of tieflings who were already stealing shit i was really annoyed

DWARF MONK

>>725055005 (OP)
All except Tieflings and Dragonborn

>>725055005 (OP)
human, dwarf, halfling, half-orc, and githzerai/githyanki
tieflings are a gray area, gnomes are right out with the kender, around elves watch yourselves, and dragonborn are the poser-est race option I've ever seen in a core rulebook

>>725061636
Kinda annoyed me that those githyankis were all psychic monks, literally stole the githzerai look.

Grippli should have been an option.

>>725055005 (OP)
Elves, the Swedish

>>725055005 (OP)
Elf>Dwarf

Are orcs still cool?

>>725063265
They would be if they were allowed to have any balls. Make em too savage and newgens start to whine and cry about stereotypes

>>725063265
no, orcs are now officially just mexicans

>>725055005 (OP)
Only Human males and Elven sluts matter

best races for this feel?

>>725064295
But why? No other race are represented by an exact real world counterpart? At least not with influences this recent? Her jacket almost looks modern. The dumbfuck who approved of this is even worse than the artist that drew it.

>>725064826
Hasbro is very much into that 'special' Kool-Aid.

>>725065709
It's not even woke, it's retarded woke.

>>725065815
Being retarded is Hasbro's MO!

>>725055005 (OP)
elf dwarf human gnome
everything else is already genocided

>>725061503
i have a dnd character id like to commission art of but the process feels strangely daunting to me, mainly because i dont know where to find the right artists or how to go about the communication
any artist recs or advice that could help me out?

>>725067145
I always recommend fiverr.com/tansartwork as they're my go-to that did pic related >>725062489
>>725061503 and they're like $30-40 for a full body piece or only like $15 for a 1/3 body

Fiverr still has a lot of good struggling SEA artists, but AI REALLY fucked the place up.
When looking at the artists if you just search "Character art" or something, you should look for ones that have a decent number of reviews and a clearly consistent output. Western or realistic style will usually be substantially more expensive if you wanna go that route.
Just avoid any seller that has no reviews, only like 3 pieces in their portfolio, and make sure their portfolio is consistently the quality you're wanting to get.

I've actually only been burned a couple times with commissions from fiverr turning out bad. And despite interacting with like 30 or more sellers at this point, I've only had them take on the job and then ghost me (forcing a very easy refund I don't get why they do this fiverr doesn't even pay them until the deliver) like two times.

>>725068271
This is probably the worst finished commission I ever got from fiverr

>>725068271
>>725068901
your waifu, sorry, your dnd character looks boring and generic as fuck.
What's her backstory?

>>725068975
Thanks anon
It varies a bit depending on the campaign I played her in. I like the make the characters story through the gameplay not in a little novel I made beforehand, so it's never really super extensive. Usually just a reason she ended up as an adventurer and a personal goal.

For the pirate one >>725068271 it was very simple, she and one of the other party member had been street rat thieves together, became cabinboy/girl on a pirate ship before getting kicked out which led them to the initial meeting with the party. Her goal was to become a famous pirate. Pretty simple and straight forward.

>>725068975
>What's her backstory?
She fucked a human man once.

>>725069573
once?

>play as an elf with dark skin
>everyone comments on who you are

>play as a bipedal dragon person
>no one says anything about it
Hilarious to think about.

>>725069681
well that one is a half elf I forgot.

>>725069681
That's just the backstory.

https://www.audible.com/series/RA-Salvatores-War-of-the-Spider-Queen-Audiobooks

for my fellow drow enthusiasts

>>725069953
Page not found

>>725070019
https://www.audible.com/series/RA-Salvatores-War-of-the-Spider-Queen-Audiobooks/B00ARJR2A0?srsltid=AfmBOopIgVz82lr-yOqj_UbQKwQ2xgtw7qAaWhC7R2lRLtAEyehQ440H

>>725055005 (OP)
>Elf, human, dwarf and halfling
Good adventuring races just as Saint Tolkien intended
>Half-Elf
For people that want to have their cake and eat it too
>Tiefling, drow, githyanki and half-orc
Ruin the immersion because every reasonable person should attack these on sight
>Gnome
Annoying THAT GUY race
>Dragonborn
The most acceptable form of furry RP

>>725055005 (OP)
>DND races
No thanks, thread ruined

>>725055005 (OP)
Fuck /v/, you should listen to me.

>>725055005 (OP)
>Elf
Only for women
>Tiefling
Only for women
>Drow
Only for women
>Human
Based
>Githyanki
Based
>Dwarf
Based
>Half-Elf
Only for women
>Halfling
Based
>Gnome
Cringe
>Dragonborn
Only Durge
>Half-Orc
Only for women

>>725056979
Sometimes I make the Emperor of Man without realizing, not sure when it started
I like making a cat in scrolls games, but FUCK games that make eight kinds of humans so they can spin a 'it takes all kinds!' kind of worldbuilding narrative. So making a human in baldur's gate 3 or whatever has zero appeal to me because what's the point it's still gonna be like trying to get groceries during a pride parade

Cleric of Lolth durge who returns to Lolth and rejects balls is a fantastic story. A lot of the War of the Spider queen is referenced in BG3. The 5 audiobooks and BG3 played this way was a fun journey I recommend to my fellow anons.

>>725071093
Elder Scrolls works because people are simultaneously chill about you being a cat and also tell you to your face that khajiit steal stuff
In other games sometimes you just start a dialogue sequence and suddenly you're in the middle of some sort of public service advert where you learn not to be racist

>>725055005 (OP)
>based
Human
Dwarf
Dragonborn
>edgy
Drow
Githyanki
Half-orc
>cringe
Tiefling
Half-elf
Halfling
Gnome
>elf
Elf

>>725071226
And you can't just ignore it and dismiss the dichotomy. Your options are to be mean, be nice, be flippant, or do a 360 and walk away to find a less annoying quest

>>725055005 (OP)
>Half-Orc
>No Orc
What the fuck is this

>>725055064
Came here to post this
Nonhumans get purged

>>725070085
Gnome is what you pick when your LGBTQ-friendly friend group has made you concede that masculine fantasy makes the vibes weird so you have to avoid taking your character seriously and be comic relief
also a reasonable option if you're playing with the bros and enjoy fucking with everyone and being a retard in their face. Works especially well with a gimmick but just being a naked gnome works OK

>>725055005 (OP)
Humans. Dwarves. Short stack members of non-Dwarf races.

>>725071601
I made a gnome named Snickerdoodle and he was basically Ralsei. His siblings were all named after cookies. I imagined him looking like a Tarutaru in my head.

>>725063265
No. Orcs have lost so much in just the last ten years it's insane. I used to play an orc shaman in wow and thought they were the tightest race, they're cool in like three other games and that's it.

>>725071408
is that a Britney venti mod?

>>725068271
thanks for your help anon, i appreciate it and i like your character

>>725072093
np anon good luck

Human Male Protagonist
Drow Female love interest
Dwarf Male best friend
Dragonborn mystic
Male Gnome as target for arrows

>>725072631
Sounds awesome but I fucking hate the dialogue in Baldur's Gate 3 otherwise I'd be playing this now
Also irl drow gf broke up with me so it'd have to be human gf

>>725072562
>leaving us for /v/
on one hand I get you, on the other, it still stings

>>725055005 (OP)
I always go Human. I can't get immersed if I'm a Tiefling, Drow, Elf, Orc, or some other race. I especially have no idea how people play manlet races like Dwarf and Halfling. How can you be immersed when you're half the height of everyone else in the story?

>>725069779
>always evil schizo race
>just scaly dudes that appeared one day and worship a good aligned god

>>725073220
well if you want to get seriously immersed in the dark and dangerous world of the Drow try reading the book series, War of the Spider Queen"!
it's five dark tombs of lore about Dark elves, Lolth, consequence, faith and romance

>>725072771
nah /tg/ is still the main board I use. It's just way slower and I really want to avoid having a puckee-esque reputation from reposting my art over and over. So I try to only post art there when it's thread relevant or new art for the most part. On /v/ though I'll just post whatever I want in a thread because the thread will be gone soon and it's a much bigger pond.

>>725070046
this one works properly btw thanks

>>725055005 (OP)
>Know nothing about D&D
>Pick up BG3
>Make a Drow
>Everyone fucking hates my guts
What EXACTLY did I stumble in to

>>725074291
Their society is an evil BDSM matriarchy that enslaves people.

>>725074409
ARE drow evil? or misunderstood.. ?

>>725073973
Yeah, fair enough. I'm not even sure I'd call it my main board anymore, it's way too dead there and a bit too fast for my linking here.

>>725074602
Depends on edition, ye olde D&D (Eye of Beholder / BG1-2 era or earlier) had them as predominantly evil, nowadays there's no default stereotype, anyone can be any alignment and race is just a costume.

>>725074602
Most are evil due to being raised in a carefully micromanaged society ran by an evil goddess, though some break away from their society.

>>725074602
>no drow dommy mommy to rape me

>>725058037
i like you

>>725075883
reward, not rape
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vfiiqdqJ0zE

>>725059926
>>725059025
>>725061138
I used to imagine them like Draenei from WoW but more like red or somewhat pale/peach like >>725058540 and without the face tentacles / more human/vampiric face. Cloven/hoofed feet and all that as well.
I think that was their original intention too, and as a result was likely part of the inspiration for Draenei even.
But as other anons have said, they were a bit more "standardized" and additionally, the nu-D&D fans that moved in started playing them as a bunch of purple and blue haired weirdos with "Demonic" quirks. And WotC also kind of played around this as well.
I always thought Tieflings were incredibly interesting, and its very disappointing how they are portrayed now. I thought they were kind of alright in BG3 for the most part at least visually.
>>725060107
>Nothing of it matters for actual DnD, since you just make up the rules yourself.
Nah that mentality is how that whole hobby got coopted.

>>725074751
agreed on that. Sadly so much of /tg/ is just recycled jokes or thread topics over and over unless you're looking for 40k. There's some decent discussions in some of the generals sometimes but they very often just go basically silent for days on end or just slowly get bumped off (barring bumfag)

>>725076442
ok but do you have a hand drawn crayon illustration of your character yet?

>>725055064

humans exist ONLY as self-inserts for beastfolk HMOFA

>>725076419
I love the design for Draeneis and I definitely incorporated the hornshape into my character. Skin tone also influenced me a bit, though lavender purple is my favorite color so it was probably gonna be that anyway

>>725076503
No but I have some mspaint doodles friends made

>>725076419
>I thought they were kind of alright in BG3 for the most part at least visually
BG3 is pretty in line with how they should be, most are just normal people this has always been the case even in 2e. Hell I'm actually amazed at the amount of racism against them, usually wizards or tiefling players try to shy away from that part of the lore

Haven't played D&D in years
Realized my old groups from HS were honestly terrible to actually play the game with, nor do we really talk anymore anyway.
>A giant duck rockets from outer space killing you
>Why?
>Cause I'm the DM and I can
>Oh... ha ha. So funny and quirky. Very enjoyable.
College friends have mostly all split off
Don't enjoy anything about the modern official direction of D&D.
Because of the current direction of it and many people who I see playing it I worry about trying to join a game online and not meshing with the players at all.
Would be nice to play D&D again sometime though. But it probably just won't happen.

>>725055005 (OP)
Insectoid. Not the pussy friendly coexistence kind either. Mothers, fathers, children, pets, corpses, if it is of flesh it should be defiled and devoured.

>>725077054
insects don't try to defile they just consume.

>>725077054
Based Thri-Kreen enjoyer.

>>725076979
>Hell I'm actually amazed at the amount of racism against them, usually wizards or tiefling players try to shy away from that part of the lore
Yes, I enjoyed this as well because its how I remembered them being described in old books lore and such.
Though they didn't have cloven/hoofed feet and I distinctly remember that descriptor in one of the books. Unless I'm crazy. But otherwise their appearance was pretty spot on as well.

>>725055005 (OP)
Human, dwarf, half-ling, Dragonborn

Never elves

>>725076419
Draenei are so much cooler than shitty shitty Tieflings, shame they never let you play as red Eredar, they're basically just like green orcs conceptually. Instead you got Lightforged draenei that just suck lorewise

>>725077032
>Because of the current direction of it and many people who I see playing it I worry about trying to join a game online and not meshing with the players at all.
I've seen two strategies being adopted on that front.
One is where you join as a player, see if you can find one or two guys you jive with, then contact them in private to start a new group.
Another is where you DM the one shots or two shots and use that as a sort of silent screening process to find people you can form a group with.
Basically, hunt individuals and form a new group.

>>725077273
I don't know the lore of Lightforged cause I never really got much into WoW, I just like draenei designs, of all their varients. But as I said, thy are likely influenced by old Tieflings descriptions, but tweaked for WoW's world/setting.

>>725076979
I despise players who pick a tiefling or any freakier race and then whine about racism. I once had a game with some randoms where one of them started to get mad about anti-orc racism from the local townsfolk (which was directed at a different player's character, who was totally fine with the racism) which stemmed from a fucking roving horde of orcs that was burning villages to the ground.
Never played with them again.

The innate distrust and suspicions normal people should have to tieflings is very fun to play with.

>>725077931
>The innate distrust and suspicions normal people should have to tieflings is very fun to play with.
I never understood wanting to take this aspect away.
When everyone is just different colored humans and all treated the exact same, theres nothing to play off of at all. Its boring.

>>725055064
>>725060849
>hey what if we make the most racist anime possible
Who thought this was a good idea.

>>725064295
https://www.thegamer.com/dnd-mexican-orcs-coded-dungeons-dragons-art-phb/

?????????? ????? it's a real fucking thing

>>725077117
Ahem,

Let me latch 100 more eggs onto your mucus membranes before you attempt to correct me good sir. No no, I insist. They're personally just for you.

>>725078102
I could not agree more. The watering down of races has gotten especially bad with the new rules.
I've moved to pf2e for my games though, which is not THAT much better in terms of stuff like that since I'm pretty sure they're doing the same kinda "no race is evil" or "no more slavery" bullshit in their own ways.

>>725077394
Draenei are Eredar that fled the Burning Legion through space and ended up on Azeroth. Lightforged Draenei are Eredar that fought the Burning Legion in the Twisting Nether and underwent a ritual where they infuse their bodies with the Light. It's somewhat silly because it makes the Light seem like it's comparable to the influence of the Burning Legion, when it's on a completely different level. Eredar who are red and Orcs who are green became that way because of Fel Energy. Fel Energy is a magic weapon made by Sargaeras. The Light is not its opposite or equivalent, it's a completely unrelated and more profound thing that appears and disappears instantly and mysteriously. No one knows its origin. The Lightforged Draenei aren't WRONG lorewise per se, just kind of doesn't jive so well, like someone saw Demon Hunters' rituals that transform them with Fel Energy and went HMMM without thinking about the bigger picture
TLDR wow has bad lore

>>725077931
Yeah I find it odd, it's like wanting to play as a drow but not have people inherently distrust you, like just play an elf at that point.

i have never heard of an orc ever making a taco
what part of being mexican involves eating maggot-flavored bread?

>>725078102
Tieflings are sometimes presented as succubus-lite (though their heritage can really descent from any fiend), at which point the desire to bang them overrides any sense of caution or suspicion.

>>725078438
It's like the void elves. It's just bad writing to have an entire faction that's just X Race with Y Magic inside
Blood Elves make more sense, they can be Paladins and Priests and summon the Light, but their eyes are fucking green from Fel Energy in their veins. That's lore. Lightforged Draenei and Void Elves are just retarded in the context of existing wow lore

>>725078102
https://youtu.be/OVklPxByNVY

This video has a great talk about the classic Orc and breaks down how moving away from conflict stemming from *ideology* differences does a lot of harm to role-playing.
Look at 7:22 for a quick break down of the classic Orc, the way it is meant to be.

DND is retarded in humanizing Orcs and Wizards of the Coast are run by morons that don't even realize the harm they are doing to this great thing they've inherited.

>>725078328
forgot my pic for this one. Was from a pf2e campaign where the module had us all start out in a magical circus in their equivalent of the underdark as aspiring performers. We ended up basically fighting god. Managed to be fairly fun for an official module, I usually prefer homebrew.

>>725078328
I personally like pulling an uncle tom and having my character be even more vehemently racist against tieflings than anyone else.
In one case she was raised by shitty lying thief tiefling parents and lived around even more of them so once she got out she had it very much ingrained that tiefling weren't to be trusted and would use disguise self a lot.

>>725055005 (OP)
My playthroughs went:
Elf Druid
Dragonborn paladin
Tiefling warlock
Gith monk
Half elf bard

>>725078667
I think having sexy attractive Tieflings is totally fine.
But the keyword in your post is "sometimes".
But if thats ALL Tieflings were, then they would just be Succubi. Which, they aren't.
But I'll fuck an attractive succubus-spawned Tiefling. Sure.

>>725056195
Tuk , I meant
>source?

>>725055005 (OP)
I don't play as disabled[\spoiler] or manlet if you prefer, or ugly characters like gith or half-orc.

Dragonborne is cool.

>>725079140
If tieflings CAN be attractive inevitably a majority of people wanting to play them, probably even more so for those getting or making art, will want their tiefling to be one of the attractive ones or at least cool looking. Few people enjoy playing a truly fucked up little creature outside of meme campaigns or oneshots.
I am guilty of this as well.

they give you:
>3 whole races of short people
>2 elves races (which is just humans with pointy ears)
>half-elves which is just elves but shittier proficiencies
>human which is less interesting than fucking half-elves even.
>tieflings which is just a devil-man
>half-orcs which is just a large human with big teeth

frankly, the only race that is interesting, based, and acceptable, is the Dragonborn. Look at the fucking picture of this guy, I love these, they look so crazy

>>725055182
Elves are browncore

>>725079559
Yes. I think thats totally fine, agree with you, and even do it myself.
But that doesn't mean the lore or official portrayals change to suit that.
When you have 5 people at a table playing D&D, MAYBE only one of them is a Tiefling, but the entire world the game is set in doesn't shift to make all Tieflings hot, socially accepted, and well liked just because this particular tiefling controlled by the player is attractive, and well liked by his party members.
Thats how we get Orc Abuelas and little Orc niños.

>>725079775
No matter how much Rings of Power tries to convince you otherwise, no they are not.