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Fuck off Why are they posting this?
Anonymous No.725060086 [Report]
better yet why are you following them on twitter
Anonymous No.725060109 [Report] >>725065987
>>725059958 (OP)
>eurogamer
Anonymous No.725060205 [Report] >>725062904 >>725064181 >>725110041
>>725059958 (OP)
Yeah, home consoles are dead and only handhelds remain.
Anonymous No.725060237 [Report] >>725060670 >>725061127 >>725061145 >>725061831 >>725061847 >>725062432 >>725062612 >>725062780 >>725062810 >>725062985 >>725063292 >>725063645 >>725064605 >>725064727 >>725064767 >>725065064 >>725065205 >>725065768 >>725065868 >>725066203 >>725066525 >>725067453 >>725073109 >>725074046 >>725075552 >>725076081 >>725076835 >>725078331 >>725078529 >>725083554 >>725088848 >>725090943 >>725091246 >>725096869 >>725099742 >>725099971 >>725100060 >>725101925 >>725102689 >>725103131 >>725106284 >>725112035 >>725114982 >>725123534
>Phenomenal success
>Entirely self contained market of people that buy nintendo games (exclusively)
It'd be like saying Apple is successful because of mac fags.
Anonymous No.725060670 [Report] >>725060786
>>725060237
>(exclusively)
Anonymous No.725060786 [Report] >>725061831
>>725060670
Yes, exclusively.
The nips basically exist as a statistical error because they have their whole cultural hang up with what is the "correct" way to play video games.
Anonymous No.725060814 [Report] >>725061831
If consoles are dead, how do we explain why sterile manchildren who have traded religion for toy maker loyalty keep buying plastic?
Anonymous No.725060906 [Report] >>725060925 >>725061756
>if consoles dead why tablet??

Game journalism
Anonymous No.725060925 [Report]
>>725060906
Tell me about.
Anonymous No.725061127 [Report]
>>725060237
>Entirely self contained market of people that buy nintendo games (exclusively)
Microsoft or Sony could have done the same but they chose not too.
Anonymous No.725061145 [Report] >>725061435
>>725060237
>It'd be like saying Apple is successful because of mac fags.
and it would be correct. So a financial success isn't a success because of cult like behavior in your opinion or what?
Anonymous No.725061435 [Report] >>725064527 >>725072126 >>725077165 >>725089058
>>725061145
No, they're not a success because apple literally only exists as a business so microsoft and google don't get reduced to fucking ash for being monopolies and the US government pumps a shitload of money into them so they don't die under their unsustainable business practices.
Quite literally the closest thing to something functional and compelling apple has done since the g3 iMac is the XR shit with the apple vision pro.
Which is violently kneecapped by being a fucking MAC, which you'd need actual devices you can get shit done on to stream to it.
Anonymous No.725061727 [Report] >>725101976
>>725059958 (OP)
>slap joysticks on a tablet
>provide access to nintendo exclusive games
That is why the Switch is successful.
Anonymous No.725061756 [Report]
>>725060906
If gamers are dead, why gaming journalists?
Anonymous No.725061831 [Report] >>725061978 >>725063494
>>725059958 (OP)
>>725060237
>>725060786
>>725060814
>/v/ discussing the switch line sales since 2017
Anonymous No.725061847 [Report] >>725062021
>>725060237
is this a bit or are you actually suggesting that apple is not financially successful just because the only people buying their products are itoddlers
what is wrong with console warrior children you are too young to be on this site
Anonymous No.725061937 [Report]
>>725059958 (OP)
It's called clickbait you utter fucking dipshit

/thread hang draw and quarter him.
Anonymous No.725061961 [Report] >>725076361
>ps5 comfortably on a pace to outsell ps4, atleast in north america by 4%
>consoles are dead

it was literally just xbox that can't compete
Anonymous No.725061978 [Report]
>>725061831
I give a shit about the games, and if you're trying to sell me on
>The games from the Wii U for a third time with every shitty practice by the industry now tacked onto them
Then I got bad news for you about my opinion of the situation.
Anonymous No.725062021 [Report] >>725062126 >>725062334 >>725068275
>>725061847
apple will bankrupt next year trust
Anonymous No.725062126 [Report] >>725062334
>>725062021
I fucking wish man.
I fucking wish.
Anonymous No.725062334 [Report]
>>725062021
>>725062126
You're both idiots and that wasn't remotely what I was saying.
Apple's living as long as the US government can use them as a convenient excuse to ignore google and microsoft's anticompetitive practices as a non-alternative.
Anonymous No.725062432 [Report]
>>725060237
>customers who purchase things don't count towards sales totals unless I like them
Anonymous No.725062474 [Report] >>725062634
People have been claiming phone games would kill Nintendo for well over a decade now

Turns out people don't want to watch 30 second ads every other minute while playing games and will pay for a dedicated gaming device to not do that shit
Anonymous No.725062492 [Report]
>if consoles are dead
not consoles
console games
console games are dead
pc is the master race
vee
vee
forward slash vee
Anonymous No.725062512 [Report] >>725062660
>>725059958 (OP)
It's not that successful, non nintedo games sold pretty meh, so it's Apple once again
Anonymous No.725062576 [Report] >>725062741 >>725078035
How come the Wii U wasn’t a success? It proves that there really aren’t all that many true Nintendo diehards. I had a Wii U, why didn’t you?
Anonymous No.725062612 [Report]
>>725060237
>TF2
>Mac
It's time
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3y0qGnaR6wk
I should really download the videos myself since the originals were wiped.
Anonymous No.725062634 [Report] >>725064747
>>725062474
I remember when Capcom put some of their bigger games on smartphones only for it to horribly flop. No one wants to play those games on phones.
Anonymous No.725062660 [Report] >>725063634
>>725062512
>non nintedo games sold pretty meh
meanwhile, in reality...
Anonymous No.725062691 [Report]
>>725059958 (OP)
The seethe today has been glorious, tomorrow will be amazing
Anonymous No.725062741 [Report]
>>725062576
It looked like an odd on for the Wii like the Sega CD/32X for the Genesis. Also, the WiiU looked lame.
Anonymous No.725062780 [Report]
>>725060237
>Apple is successful because it has a customer base who purchase their products
That's literally how it works retard
Anonymous No.725062810 [Report] >>725064310 >>725064792
>>725060237
crazy how a "self contained market" is capable of achieving the fastest selling console in all history
why can't other markets compete if they're not self contained?
Anonymous No.725062846 [Report]
>>725059958 (OP)
Consoles are dead indeed, just see the sales, even eating the remains of Xbox and PS still only 10 million. The console market it's literally dying because of phones, like everything else
Anonymous No.725062904 [Report] >>725063095 >>725063202 >>725073312 >>725073703
>>725060205
Consoles were a millennial and gen-x thing. Zoomers only care about mobile devices or pc. The last true Nintendo console was the WiiU, which was an unprecedented failure - but their handheld at the time (the 3DS) was not. The Switch is a continuation of Nintendo's handheld division, which has always performed well. The Switch is just a modern Gameboy.
Anonymous No.725062985 [Report] >>725063992
>>725060237
You are so dumb
>a sports team is not successful becausr they have diehard fans willing to buy tickets and purchase merch
Anonymous No.725063095 [Report] >>725063362 >>725104612
>>725062904
Nope, its a hybrid
A handheld is what you call Steam Deck and RoG Ally
Anonymous No.725063202 [Report] >>725063362 >>725063402
>>725062904
>IT DOESN'T COUNT
Anonymous No.725063292 [Report]
>>725060237
>A grocery is not successful because it has returning customers who buy their goods
terminal online seethe makes posters stupid
Anonymous No.725063362 [Report]
>>725063095
How does it differ from the Deck or Ally?
>>725063202
correct
Anonymous No.725063398 [Report]
>Niggas unironically making the "mobile gaming is the biggest market" argument itt
Anonymous No.725063402 [Report] >>725063502 >>725063558 >>725077479
>>725063202
It really doesn't because third parties still ignore your shitty fisher price tablet and only to quick and cheap ports
Anonymous No.725063494 [Report]
>>725061831
And I thought kicking the goalpost in Captain Tsubasa was already too much.
Anonymous No.725063502 [Report] >>725063556 >>725063817
>>725063402
is that why capcom is putting RE9 on the switch 2 day one?
Anonymous No.725063549 [Report] >>725064045 >>725104263
Anyone else ready to be done with the megacorp experiment known as Sony and Microsoft forcing their way into an industry that never needed them?

Valve = game developer = doing fine
Nintendo = game developer = doing fine

Bring back Sega please.
Anonymous No.725063556 [Report] >>725063640
>>725063502
It's why Elden Ring gets pushed back indefinitely because in the end it really doesn't matter for them.
Anonymous No.725063558 [Report] >>725100087
>>725063402
man it's gonna suck when gta 6 is announced for the switch 2 huh
Anonymous No.725063601 [Report] >>725073380
Nintendo is the Disney of video games.
Anonymous No.725063634 [Report]
>>725062660
>meanwhile, in reality...
You lost consciousness, tediboy?
Anonymous No.725063640 [Report]
>>725063556
if it didn't matter to them then they wouldn't have delayed it to improve performance and just shipped it out as is.
Anonymous No.725063645 [Report] >>725063989
>>725060237
>it's so bad they're now begging to not be seen as competiors because they just lose every time
Anonymous No.725063719 [Report]
>>725059958 (OP)
All the retarded snoys celebrated Xbox dying only to realize they're next. Kek.
Anonymous No.725063817 [Report]
>>725063502
Probably because Capcom is worried about the PS5 being too great a barrier.
Anonymous No.725063926 [Report]
>>725059958 (OP)
>Why is the Twitter account of some shitty journalist site positing shit in the hopes of pissing people off and garnering a ton of attention and clicks.
Yeah, it's a real mystery.
Anonymous No.725063989 [Report] >>725064576
>>725063645
But enough about mobile gaming whales.
Anonymous No.725063992 [Report] >>725064153
>>725062985
>a sports team is not successful becausr they have diehard fans willing to buy tickets and purchase merch
My local football team was disbanded few seasons ago, their fans didn't watch the new football team that replace them, they wanted their old club back, and it did but in volleyball which is what the club's fans watch now.
Pretty much exactly the same thing happened with nintendo moving from consoles to handhelds.
Anonymous No.725064045 [Report]
>>725063549
>day 1 denuvo
>dlc exclusive to different versions
>being back SEGA
lmao fuck off
Anonymous No.725064058 [Report]
snoybros... the journos are turning on us...
Anonymous No.725064153 [Report]
>>725063992
lol this is perfect
Anonymous No.725064181 [Report] >>725064336
>>725060205
Little do anon knows... The switch is a home console too
Anonymous No.725064310 [Report] >>725064537 >>725073169 >>725102102
>>725062810
any source? seems like bullshit
Anonymous No.725064336 [Report] >>725064641
>>725064181
Then the PSP was a "home console" as well
Anonymous No.725064493 [Report]
>>725059958 (OP)
Consoles are dead just like PCs are dead. It's not the whole thing but a part of it, x86/high-end consoles and PC are dying. Nintendo will take over consoles with their ARM-based Switch 2, Valve will take over PC gaming with their ARM-based Steam Deck 2. A new era of gaming is beginning.
Anonymous No.725064527 [Report] >>725107067
>>725061435
MacBooks are literally the only good laptops still being made.
Anonymous No.725064537 [Report]
>>725064310
Nintendo released their IR sales information a few days ago
Anonymous No.725064576 [Report]
>>725063989
I didn't say anything about them
Anonymous No.725064605 [Report] >>725064679 >>725064769
>>725060237
Now THIS is shit posting.
Anonymous No.725064641 [Report] >>725064790
>>725064336
No it wasn't.
Anonymous No.725064679 [Report]
>>725064605
I'm sure you were merely pretending
Anonymous No.725064727 [Report]
>>725060237
But... Apple IS successful.
Retard.
Anonymous No.725064747 [Report]
>>725062634
To make a good gaming phone you have to invent the Steam Deck.
Anonymous No.725064767 [Report] >>725064847 >>725065063
>>725060237
Switch has games so it can’t be an Apple product. If you’re thinking of a dogshit product that doesn’t have games but costs a premium while being only bought for clout you’re thinking of a Playstation.
Anonymous No.725064769 [Report]
>>725064605
It's funny because he'll turn around and say Steam Deck was a massive success in It's own self contained market.
Anonymous No.725064790 [Report] >>725064915 >>725065316 >>725065359 >>725065547 >>725102358 >>725103147
>>725064641
Why not?
What's the difference to the Switch?
Anonymous No.725064792 [Report] >>725064906
>>725062810
>have no competition because you're in your own market
>build up tons of stock
>no stock constraints so everyone can fomo and buy one
it's a nintendo specific scenario, sony and microsoft both had to rush out their consoles to compete with each other. neither shipped out feature complete with the ps5 and xsx, features had to be patched in. both were heavily supply constrained as a result, even before the covid chip shortages.
Anonymous No.725064847 [Report] >>725064993
>>725064767
>you’re thinking of a Playstation.
*Steam Deck
Anonymous No.725064906 [Report] >>725064972
>>725064792
PS5 and XSX used newer nodes with lots of competition for production while Switch 1 and 2 use essentially leftovers.
Anonymous No.725064909 [Report]
>can play playstation games on pc
>can play xbox games on pc and playstation
>can't play nintendo games anywhere else

it's that's simple
Anonymous No.725064915 [Report]
>>725064790
You made the claim now defend your argument.
Anonymous No.725064972 [Report] >>725065107
>>725064906
they could still hoard up a bunch of stock if they weren't in competition with each other, no one wants the other to get a head start. that's why their consoles release so close together now.
Anonymous No.725064993 [Report]
>>725064847
In order to generate clout people need to know the product. Nobody knows about your 5 million sold console bro.
Anonymous No.725065063 [Report]
>>725064767
Apple arcade actually has exclusives, they've got the new Chu Chu Rocket locked away there. His comparison is fairly spot on.
Anonymous No.725065064 [Report]
>>725060237
Yes, just like the Steam Deck, just like the Steam Deck 2 will be. Just face facts, the PlayStation and Xbox are dead, and they can no longer push the industry forward like Nintendo and Valve can.
Anonymous No.725065085 [Report]
>>725059958 (OP)
That is a handheld, sir.
Anonymous No.725065107 [Report] >>725065446
>>725064972
That hoarding is limited by TSMC supply. PS5 and XSX weren’t and never will be the only companies after top end wafers.
Anonymous No.725065205 [Report] >>725065476
>>725060237
put me on the screencap
Anonymous No.725065209 [Report] >>725065320 >>725102304
Anonymous No.725065302 [Report]
>>725059958 (OP)
Anonymous No.725065316 [Report]
>>725064790
defined as a home console by its own execs
Anonymous No.725065320 [Report]
>>725065209
>started doing members only videos
sad
Anonymous No.725065359 [Report] >>725065483
>>725064790
Nigga, you had 8 years to figure it out
>Doesn't come with the cable, or dock required to connect it to TV
>Doesn't come with a wireless controller you can use on the couch away from TV
>Games run exact same as when it's not connected to TV
It's just a simple external display, you cannot even connect it out of the box and even when you do, it's nothing like playing on a console.
Anonymous No.725065446 [Report]
>>725065107
even if they used weak chips like the switch, being in direct competition with each other stops them from simply hoarding supply to make sure they have more than enough at launch like nintendo did. if sony or microsoft tried to wait 6 months to build up stock, the other would release their console 6 months early.
Anonymous No.725065476 [Report]
>>725065205
Here you go champ.
Anonymous No.725065483 [Report] >>725065615 >>725066823
>>725065359
So if it shipped with a USB to HDMI cabled and underclocked the CPU when disconnected from the TV, then it would be the same?
Anonymous No.725065547 [Report] >>725065745
>>725064790
Can you tell me what flagship PS3 exclusives ran on PSP so that you could play them portably? Don't bother, there are none. They got their own versions of games because it is a portable console and not a hybrid.
Anonymous No.725065615 [Report] >>725065745 >>725065913
>>725065483
Nope it would also have to play PS3 titles, you know, home console games.
Anonymous No.725065617 [Report]
>>725059958 (OP)
Because Nintendo is the only option left? There is nothing else to buy. Doesn't change the fact that consoles are a dead market, and Nintendo is the king of that dead corpse
Anonymous No.725065693 [Report]
>>725059958 (OP)
Jesus, Eurogamer is literally a site in Sony's pocket and even they can't deny it.
Anonymous No.725065745 [Report] >>725065863 >>725065995 >>725066126 >>725066483 >>725067113
>>725065615
>>725065547
The analogy doesn't work. Sony was still making a dedicated console at the time. Nintendo has completely given up on that.
Anonymous No.725065768 [Report] >>725065916
>>725060237
>>Entirely self contained market of people that buy nintendo games (exclusively)
Meanwhile in reality third party games that release simultaneously always sell more ons switch.
Anonymous No.725065803 [Report]
>>725059958 (OP)
They're appealing to the base with buying power
Anonymous No.725065863 [Report]
>>725065745
>Sony was still making a dedicated console at the time
>dedicated console
It was a Blu Ray player that also played video games.
Anonymous No.725065868 [Report] >>725066257
>>725060237
>even though like 6 of the top 10 games sold in the past 5 years are nintendo games and two of the highest selling consoles of all time are the switch 1 and switch 2, that's not indicative of success because erm.... exclusives
it's gotten to a point where i really do believe the conspiracies about companies hiring indians to shill 24/7
Anonymous No.725065913 [Report] >>725066097 >>725066105 >>725066207 >>725066823
>>725065615
NTA but it did that. You could even use a PS3 controller with it.
Anonymous No.725065916 [Report] >>725066038
>>725065768
third party games are selling abysmally on switch 2
Anonymous No.725065927 [Report]
>>725059958 (OP)
Sony and Microsoft always had a lot of media influencers and they talked about Playstation/Xbox nonstop like Nintendo wasn't winning the entire time. It was Nintendo that sold consoles with exclusives alone. As soon as Nintendo got third party support back it instantly destroys the other consoles. Playstation and Xbox becomes redundant.
Anonymous No.725065987 [Report] >>725116226
>>725060109
what's their current status? I know the Spanish division is fucked beyond repair
Anonymous No.725065995 [Report] >>725066171
>>725065745
Why would you need a dedicated home console when you have a hybrid?
Anonymous No.725066038 [Report]
>>725065916
>third party games are selling abysmally on switch 2
Why do you lie?
Anonymous No.725066097 [Report]
>>725065913
>nta
no one cares retard
Anonymous No.725066105 [Report] >>725066303 >>725066823
>>725065913
Oh and that wasn't even innovative because the Sega Nomad and TurboExpress were both handhelds that played home console games in the 90s.
Anonymous No.725066126 [Report] >>725066321
>>725065745
>The analogy doesn't work.
That's not an analogy. Sony handhelds factually didn't play their home console counterpart's games. They play their own games on a TV. They don't play home console games.
Anonymous No.725066171 [Report] >>725066303
>>725065995
excuses only made by a company whose last home console failed harder than the dreamcast
Anonymous No.725066203 [Report] >>725066669 >>725066694 >>725066748 >>725066761 >>725067082 >>725082065 >>725082892 >>725083390 >>725084228
>>725060237
Just today we got a report from Nintendo that 1.7 million Switch 2 owners never had a Switch. Despite Switch 1 selling 154 million units they are still finding new users with Switch 2.

Yesterday we found out that apparently Capcom said that PS4 owners are moving to Switch 2 instead of PS5.
https://www.sandstoneinsightsjapan.com/post/
>カプコンによれば、一部のPS4ユーザーはPlayStation 5ではなくSwitch 2に買い替えているという
>Capcom says more PS4 owners are upgrading to Switch 2 instead of PS5

None of your cope is working. Stop living in an imaginary world and join us in reality.
Anonymous No.725066207 [Report] >>725066273
>>725065913
>NTA but it did that.
NTA no it didn't.
Anonymous No.725066257 [Report]
>>725065868
that was never a conspiracy, it was obviously true since 2017 and you're retarded if you didn't pick up on it. Half of your posts since then have been directed at a street shitter who is on the clock. this site is an abyssal waste. this is the first time I've posted in two years but I can't leave this horrible place.
Anonymous No.725066273 [Report] >>725066371 >>725077783
>>725066207
It did
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SZArpMoR7Hs
Anonymous No.725066303 [Report] >>725066597
>>725066105
Yeah I loved those. What's your point?
>>725066171
Sorry Switch and Switch 2 didnt fail?
Anonymous No.725066321 [Report] >>725066446
>>725066126
nintendo no longer has any home console games to play
Anonymous No.725066371 [Report] >>725066597
>>725066273
>streaming
Lol. Now run those same games on a PSP. You can't.
Anonymous No.725066446 [Report]
>>725066321
Nintendo has home console games to play.
Anonymous No.725066482 [Report]
NTA but dae le ebin bacon narwhale???
Anonymous No.725066483 [Report] >>725066856
>>725065745
>Sony was still making a dedicated console at the time.
None of Sony's consoles have been dedicated gaming machines.
The ps1 could play cds
The ps2 could do that and and dvds
The ps3 was basically just a PC with a Web browser, CD player, mp3 player, mp4 player dvd/Bluray player, apps like YouTube and streaming services and so on
The ps4 and 5 are basically the same with a few less features.

Nintendo is the only one making dedicated consoles and even they strayed somewhat under iwata with cameras and mp3 playback.
Anonymous No.725066525 [Report] >>725066619
>>725060237
Nintendo is unironically successful because they're creating a self contained market, a.k.a. a cult, like Apple did
Like Apple, they don't need to attend conventions, or paying events like TGA to showcase their stuff to market their products anymore
Because people will tune in JUST to watch their commercial, exactly like Apple's cult
Anonymous No.725066597 [Report] >>725066704
>>725066303
>What's your point?
That handhelds have been playing full console games since 1990, "hybrid" is just meme marketing and what Nintendo was saying initially in case the Switch failed so they could fall back to the 3DS. But the Switch was a success so the 3DS got replaced.

>>725066371
It plays PS3 games. You were wrong, get fucked idiot.
Anonymous No.725066619 [Report] >>725102510
>>725066525
>Nintendo is unironically successful because they're creating a self contained market, a.k.a. a cult, like Apple did
If that's the case then why don't people celebrate their brand like apple?
People watch their showcases purely for the games and not because it's Nintendo.

If you're looking for an apple like company you can just guess which one fits better.
Anonymous No.725066669 [Report]
>>725066203
>Capcom says more PS4 owners are upgrading to Switch 2 instead of PS5
This one is what I predicted. You keep seeing retarded youtubers repeat the Sony and Sony fanboy propaganda word for word. "They're basically not competing!" "They're doing their own thing." etc. Like fucking hell. If NS1/NS2 didn't exist I would have boughted PS4/PS5. Now Playstation games are on PC so that drives more sales towards Nintendo. Ain't nobody but hardcore Sony fanboys gonna buy Playstation
Anonymous No.725066694 [Report] >>725067695 >>725067831 >>725092210
>>725066203
>Capcom says more PS4 owners are upgrading to Switch 2 instead of PS5
why is capcom just shitting on the PS5 constantly
Anonymous No.725066704 [Report] >>725066813
>>725066597
I'm sorry you hate 90s hybrids anon. I loved them.
>It plays PS3 games.
It streams PS3 games. I'm not tech illiterate anon.
Anonymous No.725066748 [Report]
>>725066203
>>Capcom says more PS4 owners are upgrading to Switch 2 instead of PS5
this is a flat out lie., they never said this at all
Anonymous No.725066753 [Report]
the fact that toddlers fell for "le hybrid" is more evidence that their cult is like apple's which also has its own buzzword lexicon
Anonymous No.725066761 [Report]
>>725066203
It seems like a lot of Japanese people are upgrading to the Switch 2 from the PS4.
Anonymous No.725066813 [Report] >>725067316 >>725067423
>>725066704
Getting into a semantics argument is retarded, imagine having an argument about how the Switch 2 doesn't actually play games because it upscales them from 360p and doesn't play them at a native resolution. It plays the games, that's all that matters. You were wrong, deal with it.
Anonymous No.725066817 [Report] >>725070714 >>725077905
there's something oddly satisfying knowing that there are thousands upon thousands of trannies and third worlders that got so buck broken by nintendo cracking down on emulation/console modding that they now spend their days shaking and seething in their chairs and denying reality while nintendo is still just chilling and putting up monster sales

i personally have no leg in this race since i haven't owned a nintendo console since the wii and the few wii u and switch games i did want to play i just emulated, but i really do just enjoy seeing the pitiful rage, like how it's hilarious to watch snoys punch air over having like 6 exclusives after 5 years
Anonymous No.725066823 [Report] >>725067302
>>725065483
No, you also need a controller to play on a couch and enough power to run console grade games.
Running Gameboy games through Super Gameboy didn't make them console games.
>>725065913
>>725066105
Are you genuinely retarded? PSP was 50x weaker than PS3. Switch was 5x weaker than PS4 and was actually running a lot of the same games.
Sega Nomad was a Genesis crammed into a tiny shell with a display. Certainly not what PSP was.
Anonymous No.725066856 [Report] >>725067205
>>725066483
>None of Sony's consoles have been dedicated gaming machines.
>The ps1 could play cds
>The ps2 could do that and and dvds
>The ps3 was basically just a PC with a Web browser, CD player, mp3 player, mp4 player dvd/Bluray player, apps like YouTube and streaming services and so on
>The ps4 and 5 are basically the same with a few less features.
Damn I better buy a Playstation
Anonymous No.725067082 [Report] >>725081005
>>725066203
>>カプコンによれば、一部のPS4ユーザーはPlayStation 5ではなくSwitch 2に買い替えているという
>>Capcom says more PS4 owners are upgrading to Switch 2 instead of PS5
Anonymous No.725067103 [Report] >>725067286
>>725059958 (OP)
Because Nintendo stopped being a console company with the GameCube and went into being a media empire with the wii. Nintendo does so well because it has games as different type of product than Sony or Microsoft.
Anonymous No.725067113 [Report]
>>725065745
Dedicated for what? Blurays? The Last of Us?
Anonymous No.725067205 [Report]
>>725066856
Sure if you want to waste your money on a useless box with no games, otherwise you're better off getting a smart TV.
Anonymous No.725067286 [Report]
>>725067103
>GameCube and went into being a media empire with the wii.
Is that why they had less multimedia outings during the Wii era and focused on the console and games more?
Anonymous No.725067302 [Report] >>725067670 >>725067727 >>725072437
>>725066823
>Switch was 5x weaker than PS4 and was actually running a lot of the same games.
It was getting heavily watered down ports in the same way handhelds always got heavily watered down ports and the Switch 1 missed a metric fuck ton of games, you'd have an easier time listing the PS4 ports it did get rather than the ones that missed it(and Doom and Witcher are considered genuine miracle ports). It also had a fair share of cloud games from Capcom and Square as well as complete joke ports like FF15 which is the exact way companies used to port games to handhelds.

The Switch is obviously still better than the remote play that the PSP used to play PS3 games but the fact remains, it could play PS3 games.
Anonymous No.725067316 [Report] >>725067372
>>725066813
sorry, but you just admited hybrids existed in the 90s. Too late to say hybrids don't exist.
Anonymous No.725067361 [Report]
Seems like the Famitsu containment threads are leaking
Anonymous No.725067362 [Report]
>/v/jeets final cope is that switch akshually isn't a console and that nintendo ttlly lost because they gave up on consoles
the amount of rape this board suffered from nintendo is historical
Anonymous No.725067372 [Report] >>725067540
>>725067316
How is it a hybrid when it's 2 separate devices, lil ESL buddy?
Anonymous No.725067423 [Report] >>725067568
>>725066813
Noting that playing a game natively vs streaming isn't semantics. Hope this helps.
Anonymous No.725067453 [Report]
>>725060237
Apple is a trillion dollar company.
Anonymous No.725067510 [Report]
>>725059958 (OP)
Ahahahahahahhahahaha!
Anonymous No.725067540 [Report] >>725067638
>>725067372
Gamegear isn't two seperate devices. It's a portable home console, hence hybrid, lil broskie
Anonymous No.725067568 [Report] >>725067692
>>725067423
Go ask the PCfags and they'll say upscaling doesn't count so no, it's not semantics. That's an actual argument(which is silly because it plays the game, so who cares).
Anonymous No.725067630 [Report]
>>725059958 (OP)
Only console that's dead is Transbox.
Anonymous No.725067638 [Report] >>725067836
>>725067540
Just because the Game Gear needed to be hooked up to a wall outlet to play it for more than 10 minutes doesn't mean it was a home console...
Anonymous No.725067670 [Report] >>725068995
>>725067302
>heavily watered down ports in the same way handhelds always got heavily watered down ports
That’s not very true at all. The Vita and Switch were the only consoles to start getting current gen ports which were mostly unspoiled. Look back 15 years and the PSP wasn’t playing PS3 games. GBA wasn’t playing GC games. The Switch was playing PS4 games and that was impressive enough. Diminishing returns on the home console front work in favor of handhelds evidently.
Anonymous No.725067692 [Report] >>725070617
>>725067568
PC vegans are even more tech illiterate than console fanboys. They don't even known what it means to own media.
Anonymous No.725067695 [Report]
>>725066694
Nintendo: Okay Capcom we'll accept your games but you have to talk shit about Sony and Playstation
Capcom: Okay so like once or twice in public?
Nintendo: Forever. That's the price you pay for joining the Nintendo clan
Anonymous No.725067724 [Report]
linux won
Anonymous No.725067727 [Report] >>725068995
>>725067302
>It was getting heavily watered down ports in the same way handhelds always got heavily watered down ports
No?
Handheld versions used to be completely different games outright. The switch versions just had small graphical compromises but otherwise were the exact same games. It's not like Tony Hawk's Underground the GBA version was an isometric game.
>you'd have an easier time listing the PS4 ports it did get rather than the ones that missed it
Not really, the majority of multiplats went to the switch. It'd be easier to list the games that didn't because it was only a handful of AAA games by comparison.
Anonymous No.725067831 [Report] >>725068084
>>725066694
I imagine they're just sick of their shit. Sony usually pays them for some kind of exclusivity or advertising deals and it hasn't been working out.
Anonymous No.725067836 [Report] >>725067878 >>725068097 >>725068181
>>725067638
It was a portable console that plays home console games natively like the Switch so that's why I called it a hybrid. Unlike the PSP and Shita which can't play home console counterparts.
Anonymous No.725067878 [Report] >>725068069
>>725067836
Look up what the Game Gear was.
Anonymous No.725068017 [Report] >>725068070 >>725078016
Discussing vidya with tendies is so funny, because they make up shit and definitions out of thin air
Anonymous No.725068069 [Report] >>725068167
>>725067878
Sorry, sega nomad, not gamegear. I misremember names of the 4000 90s sega consoles
The Pauline III Theorist !BL75yFYoME No.725068070 [Report]
>>725068017
You are not funny.
Anonymous No.725068084 [Report] >>725068175
>>725067831
they're just going where the market is

this is why all this cope about nintendo not competing is so retarded, look at square enix running back at nintendo to salvage final fantasy now that switch 2 can run the games, but then again third parties were the only thing snoys could still cling to, seeing nintendo get more and more support must be a huge trauma for them
Anonymous No.725068097 [Report] >>725068725
>>725067836
In order to be an actual hybrid console it must have an AV out and an actual "TV mode". The Sega Nomad nor the PSP 3000/Go to name a few were considered hybrid consoles at their time; they were just handheld consoles with a video out. It took a console that fundamentally changed its technical specifications when outputting to a TV to create the hybrid console subtype.
Anonymous No.725068167 [Report] >>725068509
>>725068069
The Game Gear could play home console games natively from the Master System. It just didn’t have an AV output and even if it did it wouldn’t have been a hybrid console.
Anonymous No.725068175 [Report] >>725068595 >>725069000 >>725069259
>>725068084
>this is why all this cope about nintendo not competing is so retarded, look at square enix running back at nintendo to salvage final fantasy now that switch 2 can run the games
Square Enix put Final Fantasy on the fucking OUYA

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3z34U_Jm4Xg
Anonymous No.725068181 [Report] >>725068606
>>725067836
You're confusing the game gear with the nomad you fucking idiot. And even that was designed as a portable in the sense that you can carry it around and then plug it into a TV and an outlet so it was just a small mega drive.
Anonymous No.725068275 [Report]
>>725062021
Go chew on a remote Timmy
Anonymous No.725068509 [Report] >>725068976
>>725068167
>The Game Gear could play home console games natively from the Master System
No it couldn't you fuckwit, the 8 bit sonic games were always intended for the Gamegear.
Anonymous No.725068595 [Report]
>>725068175
Part of this was because they were one of the first adopters of the mobile platform as somewhere they could put their old games. Ouya just ran the android versions of their old games.
Anonymous No.725068606 [Report] >>725068967
>>725068181
Sounds like an early version of hybrids
Anonymous No.725068725 [Report]
>>725068097
>In order to be an actual hybrid console it must have an AV out and an actual "TV mode
And play home console games natively.
Anonymous No.725068967 [Report]
>>725068606
Yeah sure if by "hybrid" you mean "just the home console"
Anonymous No.725068976 [Report] >>725069102
>>725068509
You can buy an adapter or outright solder the cartridge into the contacts and it will work because the GG is literally just
a Master System shoved into a portable form with minimal hardware changes.
Anonymous No.725068995 [Report] >>725072437 >>725073912
>>725067670
>>725067727
Many of the ports had compromises including occasionally removing npcs density and seeing games drop to 20 FPS or below wasn't exactly uncommon. It's of course better than the ports that handhelds used to get which were often times a very different games with the same name but you'd still often get half the fps as other consoles and it'd dip into the 20 fps range. It's at least generally the same experience though so it's better than older handheld ports but it's still watered down to be able to run.

>Not really, the majority of multiplats went to the switch.
They truly did not. Most major third party franchises weren't having their new games releasing on it. It got the games it could run but many companies couldn't be assed to invest in getting a more demanding port to run. When it came to the big releases people cared about, the Switch was usually not getting it. That's part of the reason why the Switch 2 third party support is looking so strong, companies can port those games that missed the Switch 1 to it.
Anonymous No.725069000 [Report]
>>725068175
what does that have to do with anything

they weren't developing an ouya version of final fantasy 7 remake at the same time as the ps4 version now were they? because that's what they're doing for the third episode of FF7 on switch 2
Anonymous No.725069036 [Report]
Famitsu tomorrow is going to be fun.
Anonymous No.725069102 [Report] >>725069303 >>725069321
>>725068976
>Master System
That's a word you don't see thrown around much these days. It's always the Saturn and Genesis that gets the lion's share of attention.
Anonymous No.725069259 [Report]
>>725068175
they put final fantasy games on the wonderswan too. square was always a whore, they were releasing gba games, gamecube games, psp games, ps2 games at the same time. it's silly to see people say anyone is running back to nintendo when the current third party strategy is shoving their games on anything that can fuckin run it. there's mobile ports of shit like control and death stranding lmao
Anonymous No.725069303 [Report]
>>725069102
That’s because I’m old and have almost ceased posting here. Most have already left.
Anonymous No.725069321 [Report] >>725091905
>>725069102
That's because nobody gives a fuck what Europeans and Canadians call things.
Anonymous No.725070528 [Report]
"If lead bad, explain the absolute success of lead based paints"
you genuinely cannot be more fucking retarded than the average game journalist.
Anonymous No.725070617 [Report] >>725072332
>>725067692
you really tried and im sure that sounded scathing in your head
Anonymous No.725070714 [Report]
>>725066817
>cracking down on emulation
They're doing a shit job of it, people were playing Switch 1 PLZA about a week before the game came out and it ran 90% flawlessly. If you're referring to stuff like Citra and whatever getting shut down, it didn't even matter, they all got forked anyway.

That said, yeah, consoles in general have been in this gross slump the last gen or two, it's like they don't know what they want to do with themselves.
Even the Switch 2, they're apparently selling it at a loss and the only games that sell at all are the first-party ones, everything else (especially the game key cards) just kinda rots on the store shelves.
The only big exception I can think of is those people who buy the Switch 2 solely as a handheld and use it to play past-gen games on the go even if I think they're dumb as hell because a 2-hour battery life is shit and not worth it.

Disclaimer:
I haven't owned a "real" console since... damn, the Wii, I guess? I bought a 2DS and DSi this year, if that counts (both now softmodded). Borrowed a Switch Lite for about a month and beat a couple games on it while I fixed it up?
Most of the shit I do these days is via chinkhelds, like I'm playing Castlevania SOTN on the smallest not-stupid chinkheld on the market (28xx) and I played a ton of Billy Hatcher on my bigger chinkheld once I figured out Dolphin's settings.
Been eyeing a Vita at my local retro game store, but I don't want to gamble in the Screen Lottery.
Anonymous No.725071029 [Report] >>725071529
>>725059958 (OP)
Do you want the real asnwer?

It's because their owner is a SEO milk machine that owns all the other gaming outlets and they're trying to farm their investment as much as they can to turn a profit.
In 10 years none of these gaming websites will exist in their current form.
I should know I work in SEO.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ziff_Davis#Current
Almost all some sort of clickbait trash rage bait website or factory blog churn machine.
Half the writers or more Indian being paid peanuts to write.


https://www.xda-developers.com/upgrade-if-you-have-these-cpus/ - 6 CPUs that are officially too old in 2025

Here a another dead fucking website. Remember XDA the hackers, so many good tips and posts. Amazing forum.

Too bad part of scambot now https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Valnet#XDA_Developers

Article writen by who?

Tanveer Singh

Oh what does he do is he a tech journalist maybe? Enthusiast? Mobile phone hacker?

Nope hes a "AI" an Actual indian. Bet hes really happy with that 1000$ a month wage he gets! If he manages to sweat shop his way to 100 articles a month. Too bad ChatGPT can do what you do for 20 buck a month.

https://www.linkedin.com/in/tanveer-singh-096b26a2/

Services

Copywriting • Blogging • Ghostwriting • Technical Writing • Financial Consulting
Anonymous No.725071529 [Report]
>>725071029
It's been like this for almost all websites for the last 5 years. Nobody has 60k$ or 100k$ to pay American writers to do actual research and write about it.

Why do it when SEA and Indian can make up shit based on a SEO Content and keyword paper optimized for targeting the optimal audience in geography, theme, age and style?

I started SEO 10 years ago. Back then you could make a killing by owning a few review affiliate sites. Slowly it became more difficult as all the actual journalists entered the field and started using US.

https://www.businessinsider.com/guides/tech/best-mouse

Shit like this started to be churned out, nobody that wrote this article even saw these mice in real life. Nobody cares. Writen by some Contractor hired for peanuts that self styled her self as some expert on technology.

I fucking hate SEO. It's literally just lies on lies. Trust nothing you ever read on these websites. I'd trust any fucking youtube shill that actually had the products in his hand 10 times more then any of these fakes.
Anonymous No.725072126 [Report]
>>725061435
lenovo gaming laptops are sex, I love mine
Anonymous No.725072278 [Report] >>725072393
>>725059958 (OP)
Nintenfags would line up in droves to buy Miyamoto's smegma if it were sold as a Nintendo product.

The Nintendo Smego™
Worth every penny.
Anonymous No.725072332 [Report]
>>725070617
Not really. Just piggybacking off of a 4 hour discussions I had yesterday with PC vegans. Did you know that they don't know the difference between owning a DVD and streaming the same movie on Netflix or Prime? They think they own the movies and shows on netflix and prime.
Anonymous No.725072393 [Report] >>725072563
>>725072278
Anonymous No.725072437 [Report] >>725073342
>>725068995
>Many of the ports had compromises including occasionally removing npcs density and seeing games drop to 20 FPS or below wasn't exactly uncommon.
Those are graphical compromises, it doesn't change the game in any significant manner anon. It's still the same game, with the same controls, the same story, the same levels etc.
>It's of course better than the ports that handhelds used to get
Meaning you've abandoned your earlier claim. >>725067302
>It was getting heavily watered down ports in the same way handhelds always got heavily watered down ports
Those were always entirely different games, if the switch isn't getting a different game then what does that tell you?
>Most major third party franchises weren't having their new games releasing on it.
The key word being "major". That's a handful of AAA developers who put most of their games on switch anyway. Let's look at square for instance, of course I'm not going to include straight ports but remakes are fine with one exception. Anyway, since the switch released these games didn't go to it
>KH3
>Nier Automata
Remember, no ports
>Dissidia NT
>secret of mana remake
>left alive
>babylon's fall
>forspoken
>stranger of Paradise
>foamstars
>visions of mana
And that's seems to be it from my count.

And now the games that went to switch
>Octopath 1
>Octopath 2
>triangle strategy
>live a live
>neo twewy
>bravely default 2
>DQ dark prince
>DQ builders 2
>DQ11
The one exception to the port rule since we know it was developed in tandem with the other versions
>trials of mana
>star ocean 2 remake
>theatrhythm final
>KH melody
>diofield
>various daylife
>chocobo GP
>balan
>oninaki
>lost sphear
>harvestella
>crisis core remake
>DQ 3 2d-hd
>DQ 1-2 2d-hd
>DQ Treasures
Quite a longer list don't you think? And before you strawman here, this isn't a list of exclusives, this is a list of games that did and didn't go to the switch.
Anonymous No.725072563 [Report] >>725072597 >>725072820
>>725072393
I'm pc, sonybros and xbots can burn too
Anonymous No.725072597 [Report]
>>725072563
If I had a penny for every time a sonyfags refused to admit he was one I'd be a rich man.
Anonymous No.725072661 [Report] >>725072724
>>725059958 (OP)
People care more about playing fun games. It is obvious that they are paying journos and youtubers to shit on nintendo because they won't push woke shit as hard as sony or ms.
Hope ms learned their lesson now that their console is literally dead and sony went third party just to survive.
Anonymous No.725072724 [Report]
>>725072661
>zach epstein
lmao

a little bit too on the nose (no pun intended)
Anonymous No.725072820 [Report]
>>725072563
>PC vegan
Yikes
Anonymous No.725072974 [Report]
>>725059958 (OP)
They are woke
PS already won and GTA is coming
Anonymous No.725073046 [Report]
>>725059958 (OP)
The retarded bias against Nintendo from urinalists was unsustainable at this point so they gave up.
Anonymous No.725073109 [Report]
>>725060237
Absolutely wrong, 80% of Switch 2 owners have another platform from the same gen.
Anonymous No.725073169 [Report]
>>725064310
>reality seems like bullshit
Yeah the Switch 2's success has been absolutely insane, Nintendo just released their numbers a couple of days ago.
Anonymous No.725073291 [Report]
We were so close with the wii u bros... if the switch had flopped we would have had Nintendo games on the PS5 3 years ago. ITS NOT FAIR FUCK NINTENDO.
Anonymous No.725073312 [Report] >>725079186 >>725113836
>>725062904
This is the most hilarious snoy cope I've ever seen LMAO
Anonymous No.725073342 [Report] >>725084630
>>725072437
>Those are graphical compromises, it doesn't change the game in any significant manner anon
Framerate absolutely changes the game in a significant manner, especially when it involves framedrops and slowdowns.

>Those were always entirely different games, if the switch isn't getting a different game then what does that tell you?
I gave an example of that happening however with FF15, but many games just miss the Switch entirely.

Your entire post is flawed because it's 1 single company that makes a lot of lower graphical games and is arguably one of the companies that gave the Switch the most support including actual timed exclusives from Team Asano .You also left off games like FF7R,FF16, and FF7Re which are some of the biggest games Square releases which were absent along with some AA games like Valkyrie Elysium and Star Ocean Divine Force.
Anonymous No.725073380 [Report]
>>725063601
Nintendo is the Disney, Hollywood and Japan of video games.
Anonymous No.725073432 [Report] >>725078206
SNOYGOYS


ASSEMBLE!!!!!!!!!
Anonymous No.725073703 [Report] >>725074189 >>725114730
>>725062904
The Switch is the fusion of Nintendo's home console and handheld platforms into one. It's genius as it played into the direction gaming was headed which is why it's still a success for console gaming. Valve saw this and did the same thing for PC gaming, make a PC with console-like interface and PC freedom that you can play anywhere while now looking towards switching to ARM64 for the successor. Valve ended up being very successful in their market. Sony and Microsoft are late to the party while being stuck on x86 because of their backlogs while blowing too much money on graphics which they can't pull back from. Simply put. Nintendo and Valve created and cornered their own markets while Sony and Microsoft chose not to create forever fans, now when Sony tries to enter Nintendo's market and Microsoft tries to enter Valve's market. Both are going to get their shit pushed in hard. Their first party handhelds will be out too late, 2028, while also being less efficient, power hungry, focused on graphics, and cost more. Only future for Sony and Microsoft is as third parties for Nintendo and Valve.
Anonymous No.725073912 [Report] >>725074227
>>725068995
>Many of the ports had compromises including occasionally removing npcs density and seeing games drop to 20 FPS or below wasn't exactly uncommon
All you do is copy and paste the same replies daily, get some therapy.
Anonymous No.725074046 [Report]
>>725060237
If that self-contained market is massive then it is successful.
I hate Nintendo, their BS practices and fanboys but if you go outside it isn't hard to see children and manchildren with a Switch in hand. Those fuckers are everywhere.
Anonymous No.725074189 [Report] >>725074731 >>725075164
>>725073703
there was only a 10 year window when consoles were actually worth buying
>1980-2003
arcade>console
>2013-now
pc>console
switch is a handheld. majority of users play in handheld mode exclusively. "le fusion" is a cope to save face
Anonymous No.725074227 [Report]
>>725073912
Seek the help of a mental health professional for your schizophrenia, you're seeing patterns that don't actually exist.
Anonymous No.725074273 [Report]
>>725059958 (OP)
This is like watching an old childhood friend sit in the cuck chair
Anonymous No.725074731 [Report] >>725074989
>>725074189
>switch is a handheld. majority of users play in handheld mode exclusively. "le fusion" is a cope to save face
True, won't argue with you there. It was the main reason I came back to Nintendo, I simply didn't want a home console anymore. I don't even want a desktop PC which why I went to Valve. I love handhelds, made by Nintendo and Valve.
Anonymous No.725074989 [Report] >>725076974 >>725077301
>>725074731
even if you're into handhelds i dont see the utility of the switch if you have a steam deck. its games are meant as pacifiers for 9 year olds.
Anonymous No.725075164 [Report] >>725075220
>>725074189
the only one coping here is (You)

if switch was a handheld and everyone mostly played handheld mode then the lite version would be the most popular model yet it's the complete opposite and it's the one with the lowest sales, but keep living in an alternate reality because this one is too painful
Anonymous No.725075220 [Report] >>725075485
>>725075164
>random unproven hypothesis
they literally published the data retard
Anonymous No.725075485 [Report] >>725076260
>>725075220
>nooooooo the cheapest handheld only option sells less than the hybrid one but it doesn't mean anything save me niggerman
concession and dilation accepted
Anonymous No.725075545 [Report]
>>725059958 (OP)
X-BOX baited Playstation into following it to its grave
Anonymous No.725075552 [Report]
>>725060237
GIGA cope and I don't even like the shitch
Anonymous No.725076081 [Report]
>>725060237
Anon just found out that companies that sell products are successful.
Anonymous No.725076260 [Report] >>725076531 >>725107423
>>725075485
>On the other hand slightly less than 20% of users play the Switch in docked mode for the majority of their gameplay time.
https://www.nintendo.co.jp/ir/pdf/2017/171031_2e.pdf
Anonymous No.725076361 [Report]
>>725061961
ps5 comfortably on pace to sell less than ps4 kek
Anonymous No.725076531 [Report] >>725076742
>>725076260
>still not replying to the point
look at this silly nigger
Anonymous No.725076742 [Report]
>>725076531
>le words
btfo
Anonymous No.725076835 [Report]
>>725060237
Good morning sar.
I hope you can eat today with your phenomenal shitposting.
Anonymous No.725076974 [Report] >>725077282
>>725074989
Exclusives for Switch, everything else including PC exclusives for Steam Deck.
Anonymous No.725077165 [Report]
>>725061435
Apple exists as a business because it turns a profit by making a product that consumers buy. That is the actual definition of success. Not whatever retarded bullshit you pulled out of your ass.
Anonymous No.725077282 [Report] >>725077325 >>725079901
>>725076974
>millions of games on deck
>incl switch emu (lmao but why would you)
>but I NEEEED to buy the fisher price tablet too so I can buy the 4 games of rehashed toddlerslop
Anonymous No.725077301 [Report] >>725077417
>>725074989
>if you have a steam deck
yeah but that's the problem, no one gives a fuck about the steam deck outside of a handful of indian codemonkeys from silicon valley
Anonymous No.725077325 [Report] >>725077417
>>725077282
Switch 2 sold more than the deck btw :^)
Anonymous No.725077417 [Report] >>725077483 >>725078128
>>725077325
>>725077301
iphone sold more than switch btw :^)
Anonymous No.725077479 [Report] >>725077620
>>725063402
No, it's because the average gamer only buys 1-3 games per year and if they are primarily a Nintendo gamer, Nintendo games soak up those purchases. This is not the case on PS or Xbox where their first party IP is not even remotely as strong as Nintendo's.
Anonymous No.725077483 [Report]
>>725077417
Yes.
But what does that have to do with the deck, you know, the thing you were just talking about?
Anonymous No.725077620 [Report] >>725078250 >>725078350
>>725077479
the "third parties don't sell on nintendo" thing is another cope btw

hasn't been true for a while
Anonymous No.725077783 [Report]
>>725066273
You are getting desperate.
I guess the wii u gamepad was a hybrid console too.
Anonymous No.725077905 [Report]
>>725066817
It's called schadenfreude.
Anonymous No.725078016 [Report]
>>725068017
>He's projecting again.
Anonymous No.725078035 [Report] >>725090673 >>725092797
>>725062576
What games were there to play for the Wii U?
Anonymous No.725078128 [Report]
>>725077417
I have a smart phone tho?
Anonymous No.725078206 [Report]
>>725073432
They formed the snoylem.
Anonymous No.725078250 [Report]
>>725077620
>that fucking train game and it's sequel
>2 million copies sold each, only in japan
>made konami more profitable than square
Anonymous No.725078267 [Report] >>725078349 >>725078439
Soon lads
I’d include valve in here but they have no games
Anonymous No.725078331 [Report]
>>725060237
Apple is a trillion dollar company dumbass.
Anonymous No.725078349 [Report] >>725078589
>>725078267
I just want kat's games, the rest can be thrown into the trash
Anonymous No.725078350 [Report]
>>725077620
Delet
Anonymous No.725078439 [Report] >>725078686 >>725078768
>>725078267
come on man, this is no better than snoys making those gay "mario on PS4" bundle edits. be better.
Anonymous No.725078529 [Report]
>>725060237
Fucking crazy how "buy our machine to play our games that we make ourselves that work straight out of the box" has won against "buy our machine to play the latest buggy shitfest that's also available on all of our competitors' devices."
Anonymous No.725078589 [Report]
>>725078349
Kat will only be free when her games escape the shithole of playstation. Pray for her.
Anonymous No.725078686 [Report]
>>725078439
It’s not like it’s unreal
Sony and Microsoft have the same amount of games on Nintendo
Sony has more if you count all the MLB games separate though.
Anonymous No.725078768 [Report] >>725079034
>>725078439
we must be better men and play god of war ragnarok on our switch while our wife uses the TV with her boyfriend
Anonymous No.725079034 [Report]
>>725078768
Kek.
We must prep the bvll and raise the kid as our own son.
Anonymous No.725079186 [Report]
>>725073312
What is your counterargument?
Anonymous No.725079308 [Report] >>725079350 >>725079868
It's me or snoys are getting more and more demented lately?
Anonymous No.725079350 [Report] >>725079840
>>725079308
They've been on a mental decline for the last two decades starting with the PS3.
Anonymous No.725079840 [Report]
>>725079350
Imagine being buckbroken by a toy company.
Anonymous No.725079868 [Report] >>725080208
>>725079308
They've always been demented. The only difference now is that they can't claim Sony is winning.
Anonymous No.725079901 [Report]
>>725077282
I have money, I might as well use it the way I want to while using my Steam Deck the way it was meant to be used.
Anonymous No.725080208 [Report] >>725104110
>>725079868
>they can't claim Sony is winning.
they were in fact doing that last week lmao
Anonymous No.725080478 [Report] >>725080703
They have fucking Mario and Pokemon, two of the biggest IPs in all of history. No one else has that.
Anonymous No.725080667 [Report]
>>725059958 (OP)
care and nuturing of successful 1st party ip is the strangest concept to everyone but nintendo and sega it seems. I honest to god feel like if sega cleaned their shit up and just launched a new system themselves when xbox decides to call it quits they'd do really well.
Anonymous No.725080703 [Report] >>725080761 >>725080892 >>725080968 >>725081604 >>725082350 >>725092960
>>725080478
So fucking what. Sony has God of War and TLOU, the most influential games of modern times.
Anonymous No.725080761 [Report]
>>725080703
HAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAAHHAHAAAAAAAAAA
Anonymous No.725080892 [Report] >>725080979
>>725080703
God of War is the only IP a little close to what Nintendo has and it's probably getting close to Zelda. Not there yet. TLOU is like Kirby
Anonymous No.725080968 [Report]
>>725080703
>God of War and TLOU, the most influential games of modern times.
Anonymous No.725080979 [Report] >>725081002
>>725080892
>God of War is the only IP a little close to what Nintendo has and it's probably getting close to Zelda
in what way? zelda is a far more prestigious and influential series than gow
Anonymous No.725081002 [Report] >>725104180
>>725080979
Kratos is a better man than Link.
Anonymous No.725081005 [Report]
>>725067082
that has to sting, motherfuckers never back Nintendo from the go.
Anonymous No.725081604 [Report]
>>725080703
Do you truly believe this?
Anonymous No.725082065 [Report]
>>725066203
>Capcom said that PS4 owners are moving to Switch 2 instead of PS5

For the love of God, crapcom, take the fucking hint and give us a classic Monster Hunter on Switch 2.
Anonymous No.725082350 [Report]
>>725080703
Anonymous No.725082892 [Report]
>>725066203
>Capcom says more PS4 owners are upgrading to Switch 2 instead of PS5

Not all that surprising when Sony practically abandoned japan for the west. Nintendo's the next best option by default now now that the switch 2 is powerful enough.
Anonymous No.725083390 [Report]
>>725066203
People have noticed that Capcom has really been pushing resident evil requiem on the switch 2 recently more so than other versions.
Anonymous No.725083554 [Report]
>>725060237
Also, I would like to add that fun is just a buzzword
Anonymous No.725084228 [Report]
>>725066203
>Capcom says more PS4 owners are upgrading to Switch 2 instead of PS5
Phil Spencer blown the fuck out
Anonymous No.725084630 [Report]
>>725073342
>Framerate absolutely changes the game in a significant manner, especially when it involves framedrops and slowdowns.
No, no it doesn't. Framerate doesn't change a thing about the game. You can complain that it isn't stable but you can't complain the plot, mechanics and level design is different.
>I gave an example of that happening however with FF15
You didn't, Ff15 pocket edition was a game made for mobile first and foremost and then ported to ps4 and Xbox and then it was ported to switch.
If you want to be technical we can count it as a remake that as brought to switch and add yet another game that didn't skip it.

>Your entire post is flawed because it's 1 single company
It's not any different for other companies, I think capcom is the only major one with more by 2 or 3, mainly because a lot of their games have been port compilations otherwise a solid chunk of releases came to switch.
I was thinking of doing it for Sega but they have a hell of a lot more games.
At the same time though it's only a handful of Yakuza games that didn't go to switch and persona 5 I guess but that was because of Sony's exclusivity contract.
Anyway, I don't think it's all that fair to you to make a list that's like
>sonic mania
>sonic forces
>sonic frontiers
>team sonic racing
>crossworlds
>Mario and Sonic 2020
>olympics tokyo
>valkyria 4
>samba de amigo
>monkey ball banana rumble
Which is still exclusive surprisingly
>puyo tetris 2
>panzer dragoon remake
>Bayo 3
>puyo champions
>shinobi vengeance
You get the picture
>You also left off games like FF7R,FF16, and FF7Re
16 and Rebirth are next gen games but it'll give you Remake. Not like it changes the count by much if you had all three and the switch list would still be longer at 13 to 24 in favor of the switch.
>biggest games
Moot point, being a "big" game doesn't mean anything other than the fact that they had a larger budget for it.
Anonymous No.725085397 [Report]
>>725059958 (OP)
why do you think nintendo militantly protects their brand. gotta protect the walled garden.
Anonymous No.725086638 [Report]
>>725059958 (OP)
>why are they posting this?
Man, even I am shocked because Eurogamer is one of the biggest Sony cock suckers and are always doomposting Nintendo
I mean, they are european, that's expected but still...
Schizo theory but maybe Sony stopped giving them money
Anonymous No.725086690 [Report] >>725086787 >>725086802 >>725086862 >>725104957
Why did Microsoft and Sony decide that it was a good idea to stop having exclusives on their consoles?
Anonymous No.725086787 [Report] >>725089367
>>725086690
"exclusives don't matter! they are anti consumer!" - sour grapes retards with zero exclusives
Anonymous No.725086802 [Report] >>725099419
>>725086690
Because they became the Raven Beak of gaming and thought POWER IS EVERYTHING
Anonymous No.725086862 [Report]
>>725086690
funy chihuahua
Anonymous No.725088024 [Report]
>>725059958 (OP)
Console redpill

Sega
>Saturn had Hitachi SH-2 shit that hitachi gave to sega for extremely cheap because they couldn't find anyone else to buy it
>Dreamcast had Hitachi SH-4 and only console ever created that supports automatic order independent alpha blending.
>Plans to download Dreamcast games directly to the 40GB HDD, a feature that Xbox 360 realized

Sony
>PS2 had Kutaragi's Emotion Engine. PS3 had Kutaragi's CELL
>PS2 Emotion Engine and PS3 CELL were nightmares for programmers
>The original plan was for the PS3 not to have a traditional GPU. They were going to use the Cell for everything
>Sony has lost more than $3 billion on the PS3, console was a failure
>Mark Cerny is hired for PS4
>Mark Cerny wanted PS4, PS5, PS6 and PS7 to be AMD APUs because it was cheapest and easiest for programmers. any optimizations done for PS4 will just help PC get further ahead
>Unlike PC configurations, PS4, PS5 and PS6 uses fixed/standard hardware that the game can be specifically optimized for

Nintendo
>Gamecube graphics chip was made by ArtX, comprised of former SGI employees who worked on N64. ATI bought them shortly before the release of the Gamecube, hence the ATI branding
>The Switch uses an X1 Tegra, a 2015 tablet processor

Xbox
>original XBOX has an x86 Intel Pentium III processor means PC porting is dead simple
>Xbox was a huge financial risk for microsoft. Those PC components cost a fortune compared to the cheap RISC hardware of PS2 and GC. They lost $125 for each console unit sold. Using a hard drive as a game data cache was also something never done before back in the day. There was a ton of creativity involved in the making of the xbox.

TLDR
>Retro consoles had Japanese custom hardware
>Modern Consoles are now just budget AMD PCs
Anonymous No.725088152 [Report]
>Owning a console
Why? Are you retarded?
Anonymous No.725088848 [Report]
>>725060237
>>Entirely self contained market of people that buy nintendo games (exclusively)
>It'd be like saying Apple is successful because of mac fags.
Are you implying Apple is not succesful due to people who buy Apple products? what exactly is the point you were trying to make here
Anonymous No.725089058 [Report]
>>725061435
MacBooks are good.
their other products are good for what they are. I would never us an iPhone myself, but I bought one for my mother because it's perfect for people like her: tech illiterate and needs something that just werks.
And unlike google and microsoft, they at least still have a coherent design philosophy and people who genuinely like them. Mostly stupid people, yes, but they exist. When is the last time you heard someone say "Man I'm a huge fan of Google!" or "Dude Microsoft is such a great company! I can't wait for their next product!"
Anonymous No.725089367 [Report] >>725089470 >>725089870 >>725090697 >>725090972
>>725086787
Exclusives are the reason I always refused, and still refuse, to buy a console. It's anti-consumer and retarded. If you want me as a customer, you will put your games on PC, or I will not buy them.
Reminder that you can currently play more nintendo games on the steam deck than on the switch 2
Anonymous No.725089470 [Report] >>725089696
>>725089367
>Exclusives are the reason I always refused, and still refuse, to buy a console. It's anti-consumer and retarded. If you want me as a customer, you will put your games on PC, or I will not buy them.
>Reminder that you can currently play more nintendo games on the steam deck than on the switch 2

Nintendo consoles and Sega consoles were top-tier kino.

ID Software were huge fanboys for Nintendo. Carmack's original big tech breakthrough was used to do reproduce SMB3 on computers, Romero asked Kemco to make the GBC version of Daikatana like Zelda, and Tom Hall's Anachronox was mirrored after Japanese design sensibilities, not western. And I recall Romero's favorite game is Chrono Trigger.

They all were influenced by Japanese style game design, which aided their success, and why so many western game companies were shit in comparison.
Anonymous No.725089696 [Report]
>>725089470
Anachronox and Chrono Trigger are great games.
>They all were influenced by Japanese style game design, which aided their success, and why so many western game companies were shit in comparison.

I agree. But japanese design sensibilities and japanese business practices are two very different things. I am a fan of japanese game design, I am absolutely not a fan of their corporate practices
Seriously there are few things worse than a japanese suit, they make jewish financiers look sane and humane by comparison.
Anonymous No.725089870 [Report] >>725090330
>>725089367
> If you want me as a customer, you will put your games on PC, or I will not buy them.
If you want to play nintendo games, you will buy a switch 2, or you will not play them.
Anonymous No.725090330 [Report] >>725090617
>>725089870
As previously stated, I can play more Nintendo games on my Steam Deck than I could if I owned a Switch 2.
That being said I don't care about tendie games too much, they seem pretty juvenile to me now. I did enjoy super mario as a kid though
Anonymous No.725090402 [Report]
>Microsoft dead
>Sony on their way out
>PC doesn't give a shit
>No emulator
>Valve not making a Deck 2 anytime soon
>Has to fucking run to Apple to try his final cope
Anonymous No.725090617 [Report] >>725090717
>>725090330
>steam deck
>not even using a real computer or handheld
you're just a poorfag, you don't choose anything, you just pirate whatever scrapes you can on your toaster
Anonymous No.725090673 [Report] >>725093013
>>725078035
wooly world, toad's treasure tracker, star fox zero, TP HD, WW HD, zombie U, mario 3D world (the best version), nintendoland, DS eshop, tropical freeze, lego city undercover, BotW, Smash, mario maker, splatoon, pokken, w101, and hyrule warriors
Anonymous No.725090697 [Report] >>725090881
>>725089367
>Exclusives are the reason I always refused, and still refuse, to buy a console. It's anti-consumer and retarded.
You're actually very low-IQ if you believe exclusives were anything bad since devs were focused on a single platform and all its features, and going around the limitations as well, thus creating interesting concepts. Like how Silent Hill used the fog as a way to get around the low distance draw on Playstation 1, or the PS2 had a monster chip for effects that wasn't possible on other systems back then. I'm not saying I dislike non-exclusives but things were more interesting overall when exclusives were more common.

Also there is the fact that many PC games went their way on Switch, I expect more of them on the Switch 2 because of the joycon mice, thus making PC gaming redundant.
Anonymous No.725090717 [Report] >>725090883
>>725090617
emudeck.com/#guide

cope and sneed
>you're just a poorfag, you don't choose anything, you just pirate whatever scrapes you can on your toaster
I use my PC for most games, I bought a steam deck specifically for games clearly designed with console layout in mind.
Now be a good boy and keep suckling away on the italian plumber's meat pipe, faggot.
Anonymous No.725090820 [Report]
>>725059958 (OP)
>Xbox is pretty much dead with so many price increases, mass layoffs, project cancellations and the only thing left is halo remakes
>Playstation doesn't make games anymore but when they do it's another lesbian revenge movie slop
Gee I wonder why
Anonymous No.725090851 [Report]
NintenGODS always winning.
Anonymous No.725090881 [Report]
>>725090697
>You're actually very low-IQ if you believe exclusives were anything bad since devs were focused on a single platform and all its features

I hate exclusives because I'm of the "information wants to be free" persuasion.
Being on PC also keeps greedy companies in check, since piracy is always an option if they fuck with you too much. People locked on consoles have to just take it
Anonymous No.725090883 [Report] >>725090959
>>725090717
hit a nerve, the poorfag is mad lol
maybe one day you'll grow up and make enough money to stop seething at adults buying what they want
Anonymous No.725090943 [Report]
>>725060237
>it's exclusively 150 million people they are only 3 time more than us they obviously don't count
Anonymous No.725090959 [Report] >>725091023 >>725091141
>>725090883
But I am an adult buying what I want.

I don't buy what I don't want, a nintendo switch for example
Anonymous No.725090972 [Report] >>725091148
>>725089367
>If you want me
That's your problem, nobody wants you
Anonymous No.725091023 [Report]
>>725090959
Anonymous No.725091043 [Report] >>725091091 >>725091321
If Nintendo is considered a console like xbox and goystation, then my phone is a handheld.
Anonymous No.725091091 [Report]
>>725091043
Nintendo Switch*
Anonymous No.725091141 [Report] >>725091228
>>725090959
it's not really buying what you want when you're limited by being broke
beggars can't be choosers
Anonymous No.725091148 [Report] >>725091287
>>725090972
>That's your problem, nobody wants you
Valve does ;)
Anonymous No.725091228 [Report] >>725091275 >>725105061
>>725091141
>broke broke broke
You really think people who build a gaming pc couldn't afford a 300 eur switch?
Anonymous No.725091246 [Report]
>>725060237
>don't call it good just because it's good
Anonymous No.725091275 [Report] >>725091367
>>725091228
you got a mid-low tier pc to pirate games you can't afford
real pc gamers don't have your poor mentality
Anonymous No.725091287 [Report] >>725091367
>>725091148
Not interested. If Valve wanted me, they would sell me ownable media. I'll stick with consoles and a PC sidecar for piracy.
Anonymous No.725091321 [Report]
>>725091043
enjoy your 1 hour of battery life and touchscreen controls then!
Anonymous No.725091367 [Report] >>725091430 >>725091556
>>725091275
seething tendie
>>725091287
Ok, enjoy nintendo remotely bricking your tablet the moment you try to improve your experience
Anonymous No.725091430 [Report] >>725091489 >>725091515
>>725091367
>Ok, enjoy
Thanks, you too, PC vegan.
Anonymous No.725091489 [Report] >>725091539
>>725091430
you don't even know where the phrase "pc vegan" comes from or what it's referring to
Anonymous No.725091515 [Report] >>725091653
>>725091430
>PC vegan
???
Anonymous No.725091539 [Report]
>>725091489
I'll survive
Anonymous No.725091556 [Report]
>>725091367
>enjoy nintendo remotely bricking your tablet the moment you try to improve your experience
it doesnt
Anonymous No.725091635 [Report] >>725091685
Why are tendies so triggered by people not wanting to buy their kiddieslop games?
Anonymous No.725091653 [Report] >>725091759
>>725091515
long ago it was a dig at linux users for acting like the vegans of PC
snoys and tendies found it somewhere and started using it about pc master race in general
Anonymous No.725091685 [Report] >>725091818
>>725091635
Why are people so desperate for a S2 emulator that they'll download malware from literal who discord servers?
Anonymous No.725091690 [Report] >>725091818 >>725091845 >>725092120
Why are PC vegans so triggered by exclusives?
Anonymous No.725091759 [Report] >>725091818
>>725091653
Based. Glad this happened to you.
Anonymous No.725091814 [Report]
>>725059958 (OP)
"They're doing their own thing so they don't count" never made any sense. This dumb console war bickering became mainstream when it was between Sega and Nintendo and those were systems with very distinct libraries. The way that modern PS and Xbox are pretty much the same thing is a fairly recent development.
Anonymous No.725091818 [Report] >>725091859 >>725091871 >>725091908
>>725091685
>>725091690
>>725091759
Triggered tendies lmao
Go play some kiddie games like the pedo manchildren you are maybe that will cheer you up
Anonymous No.725091845 [Report] >>725091959
>>725091690
What exclusives?
Anonymous No.725091859 [Report]
>>725091818
Seethe little fella
Anonymous No.725091871 [Report] >>725091936
>>725091818
>snoy's lone game in years is a mario sunshine/galaxy ripoff
Anonymous No.725091905 [Report]
>>725069321
It was called the Master System in the States, turbozoomer.
Anonymous No.725091908 [Report]
>>725091818
I'm confused, are you the level headed PC vegan I was talking to earlier or are you the "muscle" he sends when he's mad?
Anonymous No.725091936 [Report]
>>725091871
snoy is nearly as gay and cringe as troontendo
Anonymous No.725091959 [Report]
>>725091845
I'm not interested in teaching you anything right now, sealion
Anonymous No.725092120 [Report] >>725092257
>>725091690
Because they can't play them
Anonymous No.725092210 [Report] >>725102829
>>725066694
It isnt just Capcom, Square have also openly said that the timed PS5 exclusive deal isnt cutting it anymore.
Anonymous No.725092257 [Report] >>725092423
>>725092120
yeah bro I'm dying to pay 80 bucks for the pleasure of playing the latest installment of plumber and ape karting
Anonymous No.725092375 [Report] >>725092550 >>725092650 >>725097117
>yeah bro I'm dying to pay 80 bucks for the pleasure of playing the latest installment of plumber and ape karting
Anonymous No.725092423 [Report] >>725092515
>>725092257
If you don't care about these games why are you mad that it's only on S2 then?
Anonymous No.725092515 [Report] >>725092557 >>725092559
>>725092423
who said I'm mad about it?
Anonymous No.725092550 [Report]
>>725092375
90% of the people who bought it got it through the bundle where it's $50
Anonymous No.725092557 [Report] >>725092663
>>725092515
me
Anonymous No.725092559 [Report] >>725092663
>>725092515
The projecting tendie said that
Anonymous No.725092650 [Report]
>>725092375
What are you, poor?
Anonymous No.725092663 [Report]
>>725092557
>>725092559
fair enough
Anonymous No.725092797 [Report]
>>725078035
A lot as another anon said. I really liked my wii u, I could play games normally without the wii gimmick. it was also the best Netflix/streaming machine to ever exist.
Anonymous No.725092960 [Report]
>>725080703
I don't know anyone who has ever played those games. I have a friend that buys every upgrade Playstation too (mostly for ween shit). But everyone has a switch to play Zelda and Mario kart.

No one buys a ps5 solely for god of war and tlou. They buy it as a fifa/cod machine or maybe for weeb shit. Which honestly the ps5 would benefit if they put more money into having a well funded weebshit game to be a mainline IP.
Anonymous No.725093013 [Report]
>>725090673
Bayonetta 2 Xenoblade X
Anonymous No.725094215 [Report] >>725094614
>>725059958 (OP)
switch is not a console
Anonymous No.725094614 [Report]
>>725094215
It is.
In fact it might be the only console on the market with PS and Xbox being Netflix and Crunchyroll boxes that can play games.
Anonymous No.725096869 [Report] >>725099867
>>725060237
Except that's retarded because Nintendo Wii ended up a huge success, Wii U flopped, and Switch was much more successful. So you can't just assume all Nintendo consoles will automatically be a success like you're implying.

There's a bunch of people who treat Disney as a cult even more than Nintendo yet Disney has been releasing flop after flop recently.
Anonymous No.725097117 [Report]
>>725092375
92% of NS2 buyers also bought Mario Kart World, 31% bought Bananza.
Anonymous No.725099419 [Report]
>>725086802
Kek.
Anonymous No.725099742 [Report]
>>725060237
>These [factual numbers] can't measure success because [reasons I made up]
Anonymous No.725099867 [Report] >>725103383
>>725096869
Wii u flopped for a multitude of reason. The biggest one being how the advertised the thing. If games aren't even sure what the thing is then what hope do you have for casuals to understand. It's no surprise they though the thing was a wii add on given how much they focused on the gamepad than anything else.
Anonymous No.725099971 [Report] >>725100465
>>725060237
Behead those who dare insult Nintendo. Burn this motherfucker at the stake.
Anonymous No.725100060 [Report]
>>725060237
masteful bait
Anonymous No.725100087 [Report]
>>725063558
bruh, GTA V still doesn't have a switch port and it's 15 years old
Anonymous No.725100465 [Report]
>>725099971
Are you this upset your stupid cope post got ridiculed?
Anonymous No.725101925 [Report]
>>725060237
People actually seethe over video game companies like this. Wow.
Anonymous No.725101937 [Report] >>725102853 >>725103081 >>725104340
>console
It’s a tablet bolstered by double and triple dippers. How many Pokémon fans buy two copies? How many switch owners own 2-3 switches in their household? Let’s also buy Mario galaxy AGAIN. This is why I’m never impressed by these numbers.
Anonymous No.725101976 [Report]
>>725061727
Nope, those things help, but the real reason is the marketing campaign was excellent.
Good marketing helps sell a console.
I wish it were quality of games as the leading factor, but the real reason is good marketing.
Anonymous No.725102102 [Report]
>>725064310
Those are Nintendo's own numbers that they just provided. It's on their .co.jp website.
Anonymous No.725102304 [Report] >>725102607
>>725065209
Feels like the same thing that got trump elected.
People don't even bother mentioning ps5 or sex any more because they're old, boring and dead platforms.
Switch 2 is getting all the public attention and so all these fucking retarded videos get people talking about the Switch 2, which they then see trailers or gameplay or whatever and pick one up.
Free marketing for Nintendo.
Anonymous No.725102358 [Report]
>>725064790
Huh, you're totally right.
Wonder why it was such a massive flop?
Also weird that its successor was so bad that even sony execs forgot about it.
Anonymous No.725102470 [Report]
>>725059958 (OP)
I was never under the illusion that the switch 2 will fail
just that I shan't be buying it (nor the ps6, I bought almost every sony and tendo console in the past)
Anonymous No.725102510 [Report] >>725103529
>>725066619
>People watch their showcases purely for the games and not because it's Nintendo.
I kinda agree, they watch Directs for the games, but it's undeniably Nintendo games.
It's a little bit like Apple, but because Nintendo has established themselves as delivering constantly high quality games, so there's an amount of goodwill people have about them.
It's kinda similar to apple, where their products are made to a certain standard and expectation (even if they're massively overpriced locked down pieces of shit).
Nintendo's main draw is the games they make. Sure, the systems are good, but nobody's going to tell you that Switch 2 is the strongest hardware on the market. That's the PC by a country mile.
Anonymous No.725102607 [Report] >>725103030 >>725103147
>>725102304
The funniest part is that if Switch 2 games were just $60, 95% of the grifting would disappear. It's more a symptom of the middle-class being squeezed again than Nintendo doing anything Nintendo hasn't done before.
Anonymous No.725102689 [Report]
>>725060237
>success isn't measured by how well you're doing
what?
Anonymous No.725102829 [Report] >>725103373
>>725092210
kek it's a weird timeline we're in
>Microsoft and Sony in a battle for 3 generations to have the console with the biggest specs
>Nintendo just does whatever they want, ignoring the spec war
>General public and some retarded journos ask when Nintendo will give up and go 3rd party
>Nintendo just carries on delivering good game after good game, exclusively on their systems
>Sony and Microsoft enter bidding wars with devs to get some kind of exclusivity
>Spend millions to billions on getting games with the most accurate pubic hair rendering systems
>Game quality starts to slide
>Live service games start being built
>Microsoft and Sony see dollar signs
>Turns out they're a bottomless money pit and lose them all billions
>Nintendo carries on like normal
>Microsoft has all but given up on hardware, xbox is becoming an app and going 3rd party
>Sony panicking after losing billions on dead live service market, starts porting games to Switch 2
>Nintendo carries on making exclusives only for the Switch and posting record profits.
Crazy we're in the era where Microsoft and Sony are going 3rd party.
I had said that Sony and Microsoft were more likely to bow out of the console space than Nintendo around 2013-2014 when people were saying Nintendo should go 3rd party and look where we are.
They just can't stop winning. Even during the Wii U era, they were profitable.
Anonymous No.725102853 [Report]
>>725101937
>og switch
>og switch revision with better battery life
>switch lite
>switch oled
it's realistic for some early adopter that really loved the switch to have bought 4 switch consoles just for themselves(and that's without any limited edition models). 3 is very likely if they wanted the lite as something they can take outside with them and then wanted to upgrade to the oled. you'll see kindlefags have like 3 different kindles too despite them all reading the same exact books, one of the main ones they double up on is the cheapest model because it's the smallest and most portable so it's the same concept as the lite. they also have a paperwhite because it has a better screen, which is the oled switch equivalent.
Anonymous No.725102915 [Report]
>>725059958 (OP)
Eurogamer is nortubel tier anyway
Anonymous No.725102937 [Report]
>>725059958 (OP)
DELET DIS SNOY IS KING REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
Anonymous No.725103030 [Report]
>>725102607
Yeah but talking about how the elite are trying and succeeding at killing the middle class, while siphoning wealth up and away from everyone else is a politics discussion that I don't want to get into.
Nintendo is selling their games at market price and at a price they know they can sell at.
Their shit never goes on sale because they know that most people who want to play those games will buy them.
Sure, some will emulate, but that's a niche market. It's bigger than it was, but still a small segment and most people either don't know how or don't even know emulation exists and will just buy the hardware and software officially.
Anonymous No.725103081 [Report]
>>725101937
How many ps2s did people need to buy after all the disk read errors?
I know a guy who went through 5.
Anonymous No.725103131 [Report]
>>725060237
Anonymous No.725103147 [Report]
>>725102607
I won't say that I'm happy about the price increase in current gen games but I'm not going to get angry at it either, since it's insignificant and I have a full-time job.
My guts are telling me the people really making outrage over this are the kind of individuals addicted to buy (more than) a dozen games a month regardless of personal spare time, but also the usual console warriors.

>>725064790
PSP was a portable console with its own games, its ability to connect to a TV was an afterthought: very gimmicky and hardly convenient like the other anons said. You could argue the PSP was the first portable console to allow ports of actual home console games from the PS1 and PS2 era but the Switch was the start where 80% of the recent games looked and played essentially the same. Ace Combat 7, Nier Automata and Earth Defense Force 4.1 are pretty much the same experience between Switch and PS4 for instance.
Anonymous No.725103373 [Report] >>725103958
>>725102829
>Crazy we're in the era where Microsoft and Sony are going 3rd party.
That's the way the market is evolving, you'll see big tech guys like Musk talk about how the death of traditional hardware is coming for many things in the future because their idea is to sell people a screen that can interface with an AI data center that handles everything for them so the device itself will no longer need much processing power. Microsoft has been setting that up for a while now with their push towards cloud gaming and Sony just added cloud gaming support to the Portal which no longer needs a base PS5 to play games if you buy into their retarded sub service and stream them. On the PC side of things you have services like Geforce Now fulfilling that same niche.

That's the future that's being pushed, if that takes off then next gen should be the last gen for dedicated hardware and if there's no dedicated hardware then what's the point of exclusivity?
Anonymous No.725103383 [Report]
>>725099867
NTA, yes you're right, marketing is chiefly what killed the Wii U, but apple still gets its cultists to buy basically anything with an apple logo on it. Oh except when it starts hitting silly costs like the vr goggles that cost like 4k.
As for Disney, their cultists are truly insane.
It's different in the video game space.
Anonymous No.725103485 [Report]
>>725059958 (OP)
Most Nintendo games are at least playable.
Anonymous No.725103529 [Report] >>725104373 >>725107182 >>725107358
>>725102510
>but it's undeniably Nintendo games.
If that were the case then no one would ever watch the partner directs.
>It's kinda similar to apple, where their products are made to a certain standard and expectation
No not really, apple sells entirely on the brand. If it were about quality their users wouldn't have stood by them removing features like Bluetooth file sharing and of course the audio jack. If Nintendo did something like that their audience would lambast them for it.
Anonymous No.725103958 [Report] >>725104812 >>725123271
>>725103373
Cloud gaming is just not going to replace local machines.
We've tried before and they just don't work. There's always latency and you just can't avoid it and for games that require millisecond precision, you can't afford the latency loss. Yes, we're going to see them do this shit, but the audience will react the same way they always do.
The speed we can stream stuff is magic and futuristic, but the latency is still there.
As for the AI shit, we're quite early in its life, but the bubble is there and going to pop. We've been told that AGI is months/weeks away for a year now. It's all marketing and we've seen consistently that it's critically flawed. It's impressive for what it's capable of, but to actually confidently replace people? It's not happening and the cost on processing power, it's not worth it.
Money is being dumped into AI insanely, but almost anyone using it professionally can tell you that it's good when it works, but when it's wrong it's VERY wrong.
I've seen this kind of cycle happen time and again. We used to have thin terminals at workplaces where a central server took care of all the processing, then computers got good and cheap enough to replace thin terminals with thick terminals that did everything locally. Then we got smartphones, which were weak, but could access the internet. We offloaded everything serverside again, voice processing, workflows, image processing, storage, etc. Then tech adapted and mobile processing in a phone/tablet got good enough to move that stuff onto the phone itself and we moved back to doing everything on the phone again.
Now we've got AI that's too heavy to run on most computers/phones or whatever, so they're all server side and costing data centers a fortune in hardware and power.
If they could move their LLM models to your phone, they'd do it in a heartbeat and save the processing cost.
Anonymous No.725104110 [Report]
>>725080208
claiming or winning?
Anonymous No.725104180 [Report]
>>725081002
Link doesn't ask Zelda what she did with Ganondorf in the past and he let's strong independent Gerudo females dress him more feminine
Anonymous No.725104263 [Report]
>>725063549
>Valve = game developer
good one
Anonymous No.725104340 [Report]
>>725101937
source?
Anonymous No.725104373 [Report]
>>725103529
>No not really, apple sells entirely on the brand. If it were about quality their users wouldn't have stood by them removing features like Bluetooth file sharing and of course the audio jack. If Nintendo did something like that their audience would lambast them for it.
Fair point, I guess what I really mean is apple's marketing is the best in the world. They'll make something like a dedicated chip on a headphone that only monitors your ear temperature seem like it's the greatest invention ever made and convince millions to buy it.
When they announce their next chip for iphone or mac, they announce it like we're about to go from a horse and cart to a mclaren.
It's for sure all on their brand, you're right.
I'm a huge tendie (though I play everything that looks fun on other systems too), but I agree and Nintendo HAS done shit like that. They shifted from free online play to paid online and they were rightfully lambasted for it.
Vidya audience is definitely a lot more volatile than apple's audience and making a wrong move will have them turn on you.
The flipside of that, however, is the audience has the memory of a goldfish and if you then do something good that they like, they'll quickly forget the old bad thing.
Anonymous No.725104436 [Report]
I feel like everyone is ignoring the fact that the Switch 2 is clearly going to the the last "console" as we know it.
Anonymous No.725104612 [Report]
>>725063095
Those are hybrids too
Anonymous No.725104812 [Report] >>725105321
>>725103958
I think with AI, the race for AGI is what's making all these companies buy up all the parts so there's nothing left for consumers. That's why you had GPUs being so expensive earlier this year and RAM/Storage being insanely expensive right now(prices for RAM more than doubled this past month). If they're hoarding all the parts then there simply wont be enough left over for consumers to begin with and perhaps that's why they want to chase after this model where the consumer owns nothing and should be happy with their slab that only shows them what whoever is in charge wants them to be shown.

The latency will always exist but technology will continue to get it down, IIRC the US has a mandate where all ISPs need to be offering gigabit as their bare minimum service by 2030 and then it's just being close to a data center for games to be somewhat playable. Geforce Now as a service is very playable right now, in 10 years it's not really a leap to assume that the technology will be even better. Sony even has a patent designed to use AI to lessen the latency by having the AI predict your movements( https://archive.is/vwf74 ). Which is quite frankly, a freaky prospect. Using AI to predict player movements in games made by AI sounds incredibly soulless but I think that will end up being the future. Just because it will be such a cheap way to game without needing a $700 buy in, the prices might even be more expensive then if the AI bubble refuses to burst by then.
Anonymous No.725104957 [Report]
>>725086690
probably nostalgia but I recall exclusives at least used to look and feel different so you kinda felt like buying a console just for them... now I see no difference between a let's say sony exclusive and a random ass AAA multiplat game of the same genre...
Anonymous No.725104968 [Report]
Isn't it funny that the moment Nintendo is successful, suddenly they're not competing with anyone?
Anonymous No.725105061 [Report]
>>725091228
yes dude, if you can't afford a at least $1000 pc then you totally can't afford a $520 console
Anonymous No.725105109 [Report]
>>725059958 (OP)
lol rekt
Anonymous No.725105309 [Report]
>>725059958 (OP)
It's simple, the writers of yurogamer are the /v/tards that hardcore defend nintendo in these threads
Anonymous No.725105321 [Report] >>725106026
>>725104812
On the hardware thing, you're right, but Nvidia is just straight building chips designed for LLM workloads now, so GPUs will be a separate, smaller market for now.
As for the latency issue, maybe it'll get to that point, but I don't see it happening that quickly. On the idea of Sony using AI to predict player movements, this already exists without AI in fighting games and is the basis of rollback networking. It's kinda interesting to read about if you're into that nerd shit, but basically it simulates and best-guesses what the player will do and will simulate a bunch of possible next-moves and then just needs confirmation which one to do. It's very fast, because the computer guesses and then confirms and executes on what it had guessed.
If we're talking modern "AI" as in LLM stuff, I don't see how AI will lessen latency, when it currently operates on the order of seconds to minutes, to reduce latency on something that needs to be done on a scale of milliseconds.
Pricing for this shit is still an issue, because whoever is supplying the hardware as a service, needs to keep it up to date and able to run games well. Then they need to buy licenses for the games and scalability across all regions, so how much do you need to pay to maintain cutting edge hardware, power to run it all, across multiple regions, state of the art networking, teams of researchers figuring out how to reduce latency to nearly nothing and then also buying licenses for every game a player wants on the system?
Do you charge players for the game licenses? How much do you charge them for the service? How do you make money for your company out of all this?
OnLive tried, Google tried, GaiKai tried, Nvidia is trying, Microsoft is trying, I think Sony is trying, some Switch games were streamed, but it's just not catching on. I don't think it's financially feasible when you could just sell users hardware directly. and make most problems go away
Anonymous No.725106026 [Report] >>725106534
>>725105321
I think that because this Ai gaming space will be so hotly contested, that prices will be fine at first and then raise up over time to be incredibly retarded once the first few companies aren't willing to be loss leaders to build up a base and gain early momentum they can hopefully coast off of. My assumption is that it's going to be a repeat of what happened with streaming services where the convenience is really what wins over the masses and the prices will be cheap to get people to opt in but once they're used to the convenience, they'll start raising prices in the same way streaming services are and even Game Pass is doing.

The only caveat is that a game generated by AI while you play will be something that most likely can't be played locally without an investment that's way too much for the average player and that sort of unique experience might keep people subscribed. The LLMs have been able to take you on text adventures of your choosing for years now, that same concept but with graphics should feasibly be a huge hit. If the current LLM text adventures are the MUD equivalent, the version with graphics and multiplayer would be the MMO equivalent and I can see the novelty leading to the same sort of boom that MMOs had when they were incredibly novel.

>On the idea of Sony using AI to predict player movements, this already exists without AI in fighting games and is the basis of rollback networking.
The perk of AI being able to do it would be that it could be server side, it's just a way to make it so gamers just need a screen & controller which is what Microsoft is HEAVILY pushing with their "Everything is an Xbox" campaign. I'm not looking forward to that future but it's looking likely to happen. The industry movements are pushing towards it, but it could always fail to take off like VR did. VR is basically just a tool for jerking off since the mass market rejected it, in the same vein that might ultimately end up being the fate for AI gaming.
Anonymous No.725106284 [Report]
>>725060237
>They hated him because he said the thruth
Anonymous No.725106534 [Report] >>725106993
>>725106026
The problem with games in the vein of streaming services is that the challenges are far far different
In a streaming service, you just need plenty of storage and licensing. If the latency is bad, it's fine as long as bandwidth can handle the quality. If a movie streams with a 30 second delay, you see a loading spinner for 30 seconds, it buffers a little and then the movie plays as if it were local, the streaming happens in the background.
In video games, it's live and happening in real time. You can't cheat that.
Just doing a subscription service is already proving to be poor for business as Microsoft has been saying that Gamepass doesn't really make them much money and they've just made it more expensive to where people are figuring out it'll work out cheaper to just straight up buy the games they want instead of the sub service.

Oh you're talking a full game generated by AI, not feature layers on top of studio developed games? Yeah users won't have that hardware, but I can't see this catching on meaningfully. Sorry, but AI can't build a game as you're playing it and won't be able to accomplish anything like this for a very long time.
I still don't think AI is the magic tool that fixes game streaming. It has nothing to do with it. The "Everything is an xbox" isn't going to be all streaming, it's that they'll build xbox apps onto everything. Hence the ROG ally xbox thing. It's not only streaming from Microsoft servers, it runs games locally, like a steam deck.
Anonymous No.725106993 [Report]
>>725106534
>In video games, it's live and happening in real time. You can't cheat that.
You sort of can, just reuse the narrow corridors that games were doing to disguise loading times last gen. At least for something single player, something multiplayer would be harder to implement but the early MMOs had really basic combat to compensate for how shitty modems were at the time so I think the first AI games would be similar.

>Just doing a subscription service is already proving to be poor for business as Microsoft has been saying that Gamepass doesn't really make them much money and they've just made it more expensive to where people are figuring out it'll work out cheaper to just straight up buy the games they want instead of the sub service.
Game Pass also fell very short for their expectations because gamers can buy the same games elsewhere. A game that can only work because it's made with AI might be different, I truly think MMOs are the perfect parallel here because people paid subs to play them because there was nothing else on the market similar to them. The early MMOs charged by the hour and charged some insane amounts because the technology was still young and very expensive to host.

>Sorry, but AI can't build a game as you're playing it and won't be able to accomplish anything like this for a very long time.
I;d be surprised to see one in the next 5 years, but I can see one in the next 10 years. Compare the Will Smith spaghetti videos from 2 years ago to the current AI videos, the leaps have been fairly astounding because so much money is being poured into it.

>The "Everything is an xbox" isn't going to be all streaming,
You're right but I think that is the end goal. A $1000 handheld is a really tough sell compared to being able to pay for Game Pass and use your current smart TV.
Anonymous No.725107067 [Report]
>>725064527
People that believe this are tech illiterate.
Anonymous No.725107182 [Report]
>>725103529
>If Nintendo did something like that their audience would lambast them for it.
no, they wouldn't.
Anonymous No.725107358 [Report]
>>725103529
>If Nintendo did something like that their audience would lambast them for it.
they sell a pokemon game which looks like it's from an era at least 10 years ago for $80 iirc and they buy it like crazy... i'm sure that they can release a ps3-spec console, call it Switch 3 and still make a success...
Anonymous No.725107423 [Report] >>725107510
>>725076260
You are a disingenuous coping retard. Looking at the chart only 30% of the switch users have handheld mode as their primary. the rest are mixed and then 20% have the docked mode as primary.

The point is that its a hybrid console. It does both things and most people wants it to do both things. If anything handheld only are a clear minority, hence the limited success of the switch lite.
Anonymous No.725107510 [Report] >>725108052
>>725107423
>The point is that its a hybrid console.
It's a tablet with a display out (like all tablets)
Anonymous No.725107580 [Report] >>725107629
digital foundry ditched that shithole
there is no need to visit eurogamer anymore
Anonymous No.725107629 [Report]
>>725107580
If eurogamer is so bad, then why is there no amerigamer?
Anonymous No.725108052 [Report] >>725109248
>>725107510

Concession accepted. People uses it as a hybrid. It would not be quite as successful as an exclusively portable device.

Youre also talking as if there were a hard locked intrinsecal advantage to consoles not being able to turn into portable devices. Theres a point where the extra power is just not that noticeable anymore and the kind of games you get in both of these are potentially the same. It's no longer comparing playing tetris in the game boy vs playing Metal gear solid on the playstation

The division now is limited to extra bump to resolution and FPS, nothing else. The gaming concept and potential is exactly the same as long as these devices are optimised for playing videogames.
Anonymous No.725108319 [Report] >>725109353
>>725059958 (OP)
who said consoles are dead? and why ignore the success of the PS5?
Anonymous No.725109248 [Report] >>725109430
>>725108052
>It would not be quite as successful as an exclusively portable device.
NTA but are you retarded? Nintendo's portables do obscenely well. The Switch still hasn't surpassed the DS in total sales yet, it's super close but pretending that it wouldn't do well as a pure handheld is ridiculous.
Anonymous No.725109353 [Report]
>>725108319

This is my take on the subject but im a retard so who knows.

I think ps5's performance is a bit hard to read. Its selling very well, apparently. But after those insomniac documents were leaked i think it confirmed suspicions that despite the brand's success, it also burns money and resources to a degree that their own employees are concerned. I think playstation's good charts were always related to revenue and rarely talk about profit.

Its also concerning that the brand has chosen to dip slowly into third party territory with their own games. And duh, of course they would generate more sales this way, but if this was there is to it, they would have done this a long time ago, and same with nintendo.

Mixing this with the fact that sony's own 1st party games arent remotely as successful as the usual trite like sports games, GTA and the likes despite costing a fortune to develop and being focus-grouped to extenuation, along with the fact that ps5 indeed has barely brought much into the table this generation, may lead us to think that playstation is becoming unsustainable as a brand in the not so long term.

Nintendo, on the other hand, has fucking kirby air ride of all things releasing exclusively on their toy tablet this month, and it will probably turn a profit.

Clearly one of these brands is a lot more comfortable with their own business than the other
Anonymous No.725109430 [Report] >>725110071
>>725109248

Why did the 3ds fall short then? Why is the switch lite not demolishing the regular switch then? im not saying it wouldnt be successful. Im saying that the hybrid concept is crucial to this machine's success, and denying it is absurd.
Anonymous No.725109462 [Report] >>725109594
>>725059958 (OP)
Nintendo has SOUL in their games. Something Valve, PS and Xbox long stopped having.
Anonymous No.725109594 [Report]
>>725109462
true, if only they also had innovation and visual quality...
Anonymous No.725110041 [Report] >>725110110 >>725112225 >>725113790
>>725060205
I refuse to call the Switch 1 and 2 handhelds
Anonymous No.725110071 [Report] >>725114056
>>725109430
>Why did the 3ds fall short then?
Because it had a terrible launch and it was competing against the mobage boom at the time when Japan was finally moving away from flip phones to smartphones so they wanted to dick around with games on their new device. The 3D was a shit gimmick too and the games weren't as high quality as Switch games.

>Why is the switch lite not demolishing the regular switch then?
People like having the option, the same way that people that might only buy digital will buy a Series X or disc PS5 just so they have the option of using it if they want to.
Anonymous No.725110110 [Report]
>>725110041
It's a tablet
Anonymous No.725112035 [Report]
>>725060237
Listen, I hate Nintendo too but pretending profit doesn't count somehow cause they aren't copying everyone else is retarded.
Anonymous No.725112225 [Report]
>>725110041
the switch 1 is an ok handheld, but the switch 2 is clearly showing that people aren't actually playing with these outside and they're just semi portable consoles.
Anonymous No.725113790 [Report]
>>725110041
It gets games that used to come out exclusively on the handheld, so it's a handheld with home console power. Now, you're playing with console Power, on the go.
Anonymous No.725113804 [Report]
>>725059958 (OP)
woah pretty cool thread
Anonymous No.725113836 [Report]
>>725073312
I'm not a snoy, I'm a PChad. But it is funny that you tendo cultists just can't fathon that anyone making fun of you can't be anyone other than a sony fanboy. Everyone but can see that you 36 y/o bing bing wahoo players cultists are mentally ill.
Anonymous No.725113949 [Report]
>>725059958 (OP)
Nintendo IPs are just that valuable and appealing to people. I find the modern games disappointing though. Nintendo could do much better.
Anonymous No.725114056 [Report] >>725114576
>>725110071
>Japan was finally moving away from flip phones to smartphones so they wanted to dick around with games on their new device.

You're really willing to die on this hill? I guess people got tired of dicking around in their phones then.

>The 3D was a shit gimmick too
Which wasn't intrusive and it could be ignored. You're implying here that the 3DS would have done better if it didn't include this optional thing and offered nothing in return.

>the games weren't as high quality as Switch games.
High quality as in what? 3DS had excellent games, and many people would argue that they liked it better than the switch.

>People like having the option, the same way that people that might only buy digital will buy a Series X or disc PS5 just so they have the option of using it if they want to.

It just so happens that most people prefers having the option of playing in their TVs from their couch, even if it's really not a big deal and the portable exclusive version is considerably cheaper. Gee, it's almost like the Hybrid concept is fundamental and not accessory.

I mean, what are we arguing here even? That the switch's success was a given and that nintendo could shit out a shit handheld (because it doesn't matter what, the switch is just a handheld) and people would just buy it all the same? Because this is grasping at hypothetical straws given that nintendo's previous handheld didn't do remotely as well and that the portable exclusive version is also largely being ignored compared to the main model.

A much less convoluted explanation to this situation is that the switch is a novel concept for a console that people finds atractive, in great part for the gimmick being that it covers both portable and home console situations alike. Anything else is a cope based off arbitrary technicalities and obtuse theories.
Anonymous No.725114576 [Report] >>725114802
>>725114056
>I guess people got tired of dicking around in their phones then.
You weren't paying attention to the mobage scene back then I guess but there were new mobile games, and this might be underselling it, every other day. I'm talking big IPs too and more novel concepts. That was the mobile game gold rush period and you could easily only play mobile games then. Some people are still doing that now but you could be playing a new game and having the initial launch hype constantly as opposed to the months it takes for new games to release right now. /mbgg/ was popular during that period but it had to fuck off to /jp/ because yes, the interest died down and everyone settled on the same couple of games which means they now have more free time for other vidya.

>You're implying here that the 3DS would have done better if it didn't include this optional thing and offered nothing in return.
Considering the launch price fiasco, yes. It would have benefited from not having the meme screen. The 2DS dropped it for a reason.

>High quality as in what? 3DS had excellent games, and many people would argue that they liked it better than the switch.
Compare Odyssey and BotW to 3DS games. It's a difference in quality and budget.

> That the switch's success was a given and that nintendo could shit out a shit handheld (because it doesn't matter what, the switch is just a handheld) and people would just buy it all the same?
When you look at sales figures, their handhelds have always done well. Their home consoles have always done poorly, the handheld aspect is the main draw for the Switch and if that wasn't the case then you'd have had their home consoles doing well but outside of the Wii the last Nintendo console to do well was the SNES. Outside of the Wii, each Nintendo console had been selling worse than the last since the NES. Get rid of the handheld aspect, it fails. Get rid of the hybrid aspect, it's still a success. At least based on the last 30 years of data.
Anonymous No.725114730 [Report]
>>725073703
> Only future for Sony and Microsoft is as third parties for Nintendo and Valve.
90% of Steam users run Windows. Windows runs on PC. PC isn't a brand.

By your logic, that would make Valve a 3rd party for MSFT. Windows already runs all Switch games anyways. I the most valuable corporation on Earth will be just fine. The PlayStation 5 was highly successful, and Sony has cemented themselves as the default console brand. I don't see why this trend won't continue for the PS6.

The truth is, that the margins for hardware are not the motivating factor for these companies - it's the software sales, licenses, and MTX that yield profits. Nintendo can be the king of selling cheap tablets to children (and adult man children), but video games are software - it's the software that matters, and software can run anywhere.
Anonymous No.725114802 [Report]
>>725114576
>Their home consoles have always done poorly,
I should have phrased that better, they've done poorly after the SNES. The NES and SNES were obviously the kings of the vidya world, nothing else came close.
Anonymous No.725114982 [Report]
>>725060237
If that were true the Wii U would have been a huge success
Anonymous No.725115340 [Report]
>>725059958 (OP)
PS5 is selling about as well as the PS4 is, so to claim the Switch is fine but it's dead is just dumb.

But the issue is how much the console market has shrunk since the 7th Generation. Nintendo killed off their console line and Sony killed off their handheld. Most of the decline of the market has been relegated to Microsoft. A market that used to support 5 systems can now only support 2. At the same time, the software sales have moved away from consoles. Compare PS4 and PS5 software sales and its night and day. This is even a problem with Nintendo. They were projecting an attach rate of 3 games per console. Even with their revised projections, they are only projecting 2.5. Mind you, in September 2017, the Switch 1 sold over 7 million more titles with fewer consoles sold than the Switch 2 has now. And 40 percent of the 20 million titles sold on Switch 2 are just the Mario Kart bundle. They are going to run into the same conundrum Sony and Microsoft did, where if you are stuck in your walled garden, you aren't moving software. Sony went multiplatform and was able to do this because they are a default console that you buy for sports games, CoD, and F2P games. Nintendo will have a harder time. Even still, PS5 is slowing down and won't beat the PS4. Analyst are not seeing Switch 2 beating the Switch 1 despite the headlines (which is why the Stock hasn't returned to its high point in June).

Consoles are going through a similar transition to arcades. Arcades died because it was cheaper to have hardware in the home that was just as strong. Now, we've stagnated in computing power so it doesn't make sense to have new hardware come out every 6-7 years. Its also why the price isn't coming down on them since we can't make computer parts cheaper. The result is people just game on one device. PC and mobile were outside the console cycle so they fit better in this paradigm of stagnating computing power.
Anonymous No.725116226 [Report]
>>725065987
the UK/English version of the website was gradually getting worse until it turned into complete shit about a year ago

it's just another Polygon/Kotaku at this point: a bunch of SJW opinion pieces and barely any breaking news (they are late for pretty much every ACTUALLY IMPORTANT story so they can whine about there not being anough women and black guys in games)
Anonymous No.725117327 [Report] >>725117740
>>725059958 (OP)
Games journalism is like the same 40 people now and 38 of them are Nintendildos. Only a matter of time until Eurogamer gives up the ghost as well.
Anonymous No.725117740 [Report]
>>725117327
the enlightenment happens when you realize that they like nintendo games because they don't exude toxic masculinity like other popular games used to before the industry started wiping those out because journalists review them negatively. the stranger of paradise reviews explicitly called out jack for being a prime example of toxic masculinity.
Anonymous No.725121213 [Report]
Why does it bother you?
Anonymous No.725123271 [Report]
>>725103958
Hell, I remember when the Stadia was being demonstrated and they were having severe latency issues, even when the system was literally two feet from the server. Cloud gaming is not going to be a serious thing until they figure out how to break the laws of physics and have instant, literally magic transfer speed.
Anonymous No.725123383 [Report]
They have exclusives which don't eventually end up on PC. Nintendo has been very protective of it's brand and eco system, unlike the rest of them.
Anonymous No.725123534 [Report]
>>725060237
I don't understand what this post is trying to say
That's the point of consoles. The creators want them to sell because of what they offer exclusively.