Thread 725062531

Is the kid inside withered chica or classic chica?
I thought it was the same animatronic

It goes unwithered > toy & withered > classic
The kid dies inside unwithered, it gets replaced with toy, then the toys are decommissioned and both are used to build classic.
My dad works at Scott Cawthon.

My dream is to have a game with the visuals of fnaf plus, but fully 3d so you have to run around the pizza place, take readings and hide during your time there.
Or a co op game where a security guard works with the kid to keep them both alive.

>>725062531 (OP)
don't know, but a kid will soon be inside toy chica if you know what I mean

I'm shocked anyone gives a shit about the lore in these games after that interview question Scott answered about the box. When there's no plan and no coherence, what is there to even care about

>>725062531 (OP)
technically classic is the same animatronic as withered, just refurbished
although how the techs managed to refurbished the withered animatronics without removing the dead kids is a mystery unto itself

>>725064956
Asspulling new plot for the games is his way of showing he cares, figuring out what is and isn't canon is our way to show we care.

>>725066948
No. Asspulls and retcons rather than sitting down and planning out your story to any extent at all shows that he actively does not care. The fans care exponentially more about the lore than he ever has.

>>725067207
>sitting down and planning out your story
He did plan it out, but he was releasing games ever 3 months or so.
The plan changed between games and unless it's a major trainwreck life World, he simply won't fix it.

>>725062531 (OP)
Why don't the withered animatronics get more attention? They're legitimately the best designs in the series but I had barely even heard about them or saw them being posted/discussed until the recent leadup to the new movie.

>>725067505
Didn't the plan change because some jewtuber guessed what the plan was?

>>725067571
No
That's just MatPat schizophrenia

>>725067650
So what prompted Scott to change the bite of 87 to the bite of 83?

>>725067505
Or he'll release an even worse trainwreck like security breach and not fix it at all.

Even if he did plan his stories out, which I don't believe for a second based on the evidence, if the plan changes between every game, it's effectively the same thing as not planning it all. Scott genuinely may be the worst writer in all of video games, and I'm familiar with gearbox

>>725067716
Those are 2 different bites, Anon.
83 is the kid
87 is a guard / FNAF2

>>725064568
I don't follow.

>>725067830
He did fix it, by shrugging it off and timeskipping in the ruin DLC, what you see there is what happened in SB.

>>725067919
Yeah, why'd he change it to two different bites?

>>725068024
The dlc doesn't fix shit. There's still two vanessa's, vanny being pointless, burntrap being nonsensical, and a general nonsensical story due to scott not even telling the developers what the story was supposed to even be. Nothing was explained by the dlc at all. Just burntrap being retconned into being the mimic, and now the main villain is a basic looking endoskeleton (why)

>>725067989
It's an acquired taste.

>>725068386
>There's still two vanessa's
There isn't
>vanny being pointless
Dropped the plotpoint at the end of Help Wanted 2

I agree SB was a mess and Scott already explained what went wrong, but his way of fixing shit is just rolling with whatever came out. SB is the only one where we can just pretend nothing happened because nobody wants the blob or burntrap back, not even Scott and Steel Wool.

SotM was good, I enjoyed the exploration and world of Security Breach more though.

>>725068562
Security Breach had Roxy so it gets a pass

>>725068562
>There isn't
Yes there is. It could be a hallucination, twin, micic etc. who cares. Whatever you've decided the second Vanessa was, it's just your headcanon because it will never be explained since it never had an answer in the first place.

>Dropped the plotpoint at the end of Help Wanted 2
And this is my point. Scott doesn't give a shit about this story. Let me ask you, how could steel wool go the entire development cycle not even knowing what the story was supposed to be if he gave even the smallest shit about the story in these games? There's just no way you can justify it. Scott is a moron

>>725068885
Scott has more money than I'll ever see in my lifetime and he earned that money the hard way. He's not an idiot, he's awesome.

>>725069062
He's proven that he has good discipline and work ethic, but he's genuinely the worst writer I've ever come across.

>>725067505
>he did plan it out
https://youtu.be/03E_hZdXqBE?t=777
>I didn't have the entire story planned out
https://youtu.be/03E_hZdXqBE?t=1357
>How did you come up with Springtrap?
>I don't know
https://youtu.be/03E_hZdXqBE?t=1559
>Was FNAF3 meant to be the final game?
>In my mind when making the game it was the end of a trilogy. The story was going to be 3 games. FNAF3 is where I started to let myself be driven more by criticisms of the game. People were not happy with the jump scare and so in my mind I wouldn't let the series rest.
I don't think making a fourth game as a reaction to people being upset with the jump scare in the jump scare in the third game is considered planning it out.

>>725068885
Scott probably wanted to be mysterious about it to Steel Wool, this is probably how Help Wanted 1 got written too but in that one the plot was just the tapes. When it rightfully blew on his face he got better at communication, like Ruin, HW2 and SoTM.

I heard a rumour that steel wolf o
Is remaking the desolate hope. This is bad, the mechas only look good in CG style, full 3D just don't work for those robots.

>>725069284
>He didn't plan it out
>In my mind it was the end of the trilogy
So he did plan it out.

He just wants to please the fanbase, so when 3 doesn't deliver he makes 4 and when that game leads to dream theory he makes SL, PS and UCN.

>>725069373
Yeah, I remember scott admitting that approach was a mistake. By the way, I know Scott no longer makes the games directly but does he still designs the animatronics?

>>725069373
Yes, the backlash to security breach lit a bit of a fire under his ass, but the story is still a broken mess that he hasn't even attempted to fix.

>>725069708
>he hasn't even attempted to fix.
Basement removed Burntrap and the Blob, got the Mimic
Fire ending literally doesn't happen, ruin start with an earthquake, so there are no 2 vannys, and vanny gets freed in HW2
Escape ending doesn't happen because Gregory does go down to the basement, all of the band is fucked up so Freddy got all of the others' pieces
And the one where freddy gets fucked by the staffbots also happens, because he shows up like that in Ruin.

>>725069503
Saying the third game was planned after FNAF2 was made is fine, however by his own words FNAF2 and 3 were not planned with the release of 1, the game was made to be open enough for room to make a sequel (actually a prequel). Do you really think with the creation of FNAF4 he already had the idea of the hallucinogenic gas?

>>725062531 (OP)
so is fnaf 2 a prequel or a sequel? i always thought it was a prequel

>>725070148
2 is a prequel.

>>725070148
2 is in 1987
1 is in 1992
3 is in 203X
Nobody fucking knows when 4 took place
SL has to be after 3, probably same month
PizzaSim is less than a year after SL

>>725070006
There is no explanation for the 2 vanessas, and people still debate over which ending was canon, so if that was his way of clearing anything up, then he's just more retarded than I was giving him credit for.

I know you think those people are idiots for not agreeing with your headcanons, but when there isn't even a consensus on what actually is canon in this story, who really blame them for having vastly different interpretations

Scott should just focus on the movies and hand it off to someone who gives a shit.

>>725070798
Nigger stop being dense, Ruin tells you which endings happened. If the fucking Pizzaplex got wrecked by an earthquake then it didn't burn down. The fire ending is the only one with 2 vanessas. Freddy is damaged in Ruin, vanny did sic the security bots on him. There is something under the pizzaplex and it IS the Pizzeria Simulator location and there IS something below it but the blob and burntrap don't exist anymore

>>725070148
The timeline of the games from FNAF1 to UCN is as follows.
FNAF4 crying child segments
FNAF World but this can take place really anytime between the crying child segments and FNAF3 (dubious as to if it's even canon or not because it was supposed to tie into the canon of other games but Scott regrets doing that, and considering how many meta elements the game has it more likely than not is not canon)
Emily gets locked out and William Afton axes her a question, Emily possesses the puppet
William Afton axes five kids and stuffs them in suits, the kids possess the suits
FNAF2, during FNAF2 WIlliam decides to go on his murder spree and leaves the dead kids lying on the floor
WIlliam makes the Circus Baby entertainment restaurant and Charlotte gets killed by Circus Baby, possesses her, William shuts down the restaurant before it opens
FNAF4 gameplay segments
FNAF1
FNAF3 William tearing down the animatronics segments eventually getting stuck in the Spring Bonnie suit, turning into Springtrap
SL
Big time skip
FNAF3 gameplay segements
Pizzeria Simulator
UCN

>>725068401
This guy posted a funny toy chica video on youtube. I also love pic rel, but i wish that her body was... let's say regular
https://youtube.com/watch?v=OFNrN_6Ta5I

>>725071062
The blob is in ruin. Like you can literally see it. And the freddy in ruin has the prototype thing on its foot which is just another retarded new element added to the story that goes completely unexplained.

There's perfectly legitimate reasons to believe the princess quest ending is canon and there's reason to believe the burntrap ending is canon. People just don't know because you favorite story about a robot bear that you're going up to bat for is completely incoherent.

>>725071140
Correction: Charlotte/Charlie Emily possesses the Puppet. Elizabeth Afton possesses Baby.

Guys, I need help, I need to find some videos with first person perspective, they use these models and all of them are just some seconds of the animatronics appearing and giving a kiss to me, these are really old

>>725069405
That would be like a moderm remake of Jason and the Argonauts using cgi, horrible

>>725071445
They look like trannies on crack
LOVETASTE SUPREMACY

>>725071862
yeah, I like lovetaste chica too, but I really need those videos

>>725071918
Well sorry breh, I can only help you with a bump

But if the classics are upgraded withereds then how are they working in FNAF2?

>>725062531 (OP)
where are the movie leaks?????

Toy Chicafags are the same as Gardevoirfags.
I will not elaborate.

>>725062531 (OP)
The kids die inside unwhitered which have room to house the kid bodies (classics dont have room for bodies, if stuffed the eyes pop through the eye sockets like in the game over screen), haunted parts of the whithered are then used for the toys spreading the possession, then toys are scrapped and whithereds are used to build classics.

>>725074575
I thought the toys were just doing their job and not possessed?

>>725067830
He plans games 1 game in advance, the story bits in FnaF 2 set up FnaF 3, and so on. And writing for games is different than writing for books or movies, if he was a bad game writer his games couldn't have made a fazbillion dollars.

>>725074575
And the toys are the ones melted into the funtimes?

>>725074770
>movies
He did start writing the script for 2 only when the first one was a success.

>>725074770
He's a horrible game and book writer. The movie is fine. The lore was 'successful' in that trying to dissect the lore was fun. Now that we have a larger picture and enough word of god to go off of, it's plainly obvious the man is a hack writer.

Also the games were successful because of lets plays and game theory on top of it being a novel concept at the time, obviously

>>725074534
Impossible, we tcfags are less gay

>>725074745
The whole pizzeria is haunted, the arcade machines show the altered minigames, posters and drawings transform, etc. Unlike say Braid where the gameplay is a metaphor everything in FnaF happens in-universe, that's le epic indie game twist Scott failed to make clear until FnaF World.

>>725074806
Not sure, I think Help Wanted 2 expanded on this but I haven't played it yet (something about the funtimes' remains being dragged through a conveyor velt and possibly forming molten freddy)

>>725074806
If anything the movie and books are godawful, the games have just enough story to hook people and leave them wanting more, Scott is a genius game dev and his success speaks for itself if you think he just got lucky you're ignoring how resourceful he was in using a shitty flash tier game engine and a website to attract millions of eye balls on the internet, yes the games end up with shit like an in-universe purple man just to troll theorists into thinking that is the same character as the one represented by a purple sprite but you'd also read that as self deprecating comedy which Scott's games and films are full of.

>>725075520
I will concede the games get so fucking bad after Pizzeria Simulator, Scott already jumped the shark with Sister Location but the games were charming enough to justify their existence, everything in the Steel Wool era is outright trash.

>>725067716
That it was predictable, all of Scott's games play with teasing stuff the audience wants then showing something different instead. If they ever do a Fredbear Family Diner game it's going to wind up being something completely different and Fredbear just being a minor part in it.

what if instead of withered it was niggered

>>725073373
This is never quite explained, Afton shoves the dead kids inside the withereds but none of the Fazbear Entretainment staff noticed a bunch of corpses inside the salvage when they were in the middle of refurbishing them? My only guess is that Fazbear was so deep in shit near the closing of the new pizzeria that they had to cover up as much crime as they could unless the owners wanted more heads to roll.

>>725077163
This was simply never explained, we can assume either Afton or Fazbear Ent. eventually got rid of the bodies inside the unwhitered. Fazbear Ent. is corrupt as fuck they'd cover up a crime anyday.

Is WIlliam Afton going to become the new Jason Voorhees? How many more movies until he goes to space?

>>725077445
Afton has been out of the pictures for ages, unfortunately. The only way he's coming back is as a mimicked copy of himself, which he sort of did already.

>>725077445
>fazbear moonbase

Fnaf 2 movie soon my fellow clankers.

>>725078064
It will be great anon

>>725062531 (OP)
I miss the days when the classics were just the withered completely refurbished for the final Freddy's and not somehow in existence alongside them

>>725071338
Fuck marry kill

>>725071338
Fuck and Marry, spare, spare

>>725084440
Meh
>>725086538
My man

>>725078064
IT'S HAPPENING

>>725089235
MY BODY IS READY

for me it's circus baby.

>>725068401
>withered Chica is friendly
>Toy Chica genuinely wants to murder you

>>725089235
She's such a bad bitch though

>>725071445
THIS IS A FUCKING 7 HOURS PENIS!

>>725071062
So what that shit in the other endings is like a quantum ogre and it doesn't exist at all, unless you got the ending, in which case it always existed?

>>725078064
Hehe Magno

>>725091661
Why? Is it her voice? I can't imagine its her figure or her face

>>725093983
All 3. her voice is sex, her 7 foot 500 pound frame and height make her very imposing and hot, like she can take me anytime she wants. Her sensual lidded eye stares are really exciting too.

>>725089235
her head looks a tad bit too large, could the company making the animatronics not manufacture smaller mechanisms and circuitry to make the casing for it on-model?

guys this is a christian game

>>725068062
There was always two. We just didn't learn about the 83 one until later in the series.
Scott went on record saying there was exactly one singular retcon in the franchise's story, and that was changing the kid dying with the Puppet from a male to a female.

>>725075819
Scott was forced off his own franchise because he was getting mass death threats for being a Trump supporter. It's why every game after Pizza Sim has been getting worse.

>>725094734
i have the exact same reasoning but with ballora

>>725077434
It cant be Afton because one of the central plot points of 3 is that hes finally trying to get rid of the corpses to move onto new targets since leaving them there keeps him at risk of being arrested.

>>725062531 (OP)
What game is the 4th one from?

>>725102015
thats fnaf3 nightmare chica.
it's understandable you may not have ever seen her because she only appears in this game, on one camera, based entirely on rng.

Scrap baby is peak slutty

>>725093309
Ironic, right?

How much input does Scott even have over the series at this point? Last I heard, he'd 'retired' and game the development rights to Steel Wool, with the most he did for that game being giving them notes for the story, which they misinterpreted and fucked up anyway. Combine that with rushing the game out and no shock it was a steaming pile.

>>725062531 (OP)
there's gonna be a kid inside Toy Chica too, if you know what I mean

>>725107152
He hasn't retired, he just lets Steel Wool handle all the development. He still writes the games and the books and the movies.

>>725104554
>>725107463
this is literally street trash

>>725108693
But she's MY street trash.
She also has roller skates, Anon.