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Anonymous No.725076190 [Report] >>725076258 >>725076360 >>725076392 >>725076435 >>725076748 >>725076802 >>725077635 >>725077670 >>725077827 >>725079243 >>725079661 >>725080215 >>725080356 >>725080560 >>725080674 >>725081446 >>725082947 >>725084493 >>725085092 >>725087534
Unironically why did people think he was secretly evil?
Anonymous No.725076258 [Report] >>725077776
>>725076190 (OP)
Because he is? He's literally building a final dungeon with monsters from all the world's you've visited.
Anonymous No.725076360 [Report]
>>725076190 (OP)
He hid too much stuff from Susie/Kris (still is) and is hiding even more from (YOU)
Anonymous No.725076392 [Report]
>>725076190 (OP)
His asshole is too accommodating to human dick to not have evil motives
Anonymous No.725076435 [Report]
>>725076190 (OP)
He was black.
Anonymous No.725076748 [Report]
>>725076190 (OP)
He has been hiding stuff from (you) willingly, and keeps defending himself in a shield of sob stories
Anonymous No.725076793 [Report] >>725080809 >>725081917 >>725084196
Are the rumors true about him....
Anonymous No.725076802 [Report]
>>725076190 (OP)
he took the hat off and the love spell was broken so we can now see the truth
Anonymous No.725077015 [Report]
what does this thread have to do with Noelle?
Anonymous No.725077106 [Report]
How much does ralsei weigh? Do darkners even weigh anything?
Anonymous No.725077239 [Report]
Post goat bussy
Anonymous No.725077442 [Report]
He's not evil anymore. After you defeated him in the Undertale pacifist route, Asriel/Flowey retained enough soul memory to maintain control over his dark impulses and simply left everyone alone. Eventually he went dormant until the world, memories, life, and time itself burnt out. Awakening into nothingness, he sought something, anything to quell the crushing loneliness that he felt. That's when he ran into ______ who promised a new life, in a new world. But there was a cost. A prophecy needed to unfold and be fulfilled or else everything would be lost. Enough time had passed that Asriel had lost most of his prior memories, even his name barely registered to him anymore. But with purpose and hope renewed, he set out on a task that would change the lives of everyone in a small, strangely familiar town.
Anonymous No.725077635 [Report] >>725078164
>>725076190 (OP)
we didn't really know very much about him until ch3 & 4 and people are inherently inclined to find overtly friendly characters as suspicious
once people understood that his frendliness was a facade to hide his existential dread people fully warmed up to him
Anonymous No.725077670 [Report]
>>725076190 (OP)
He acts nice while keeping a lot of secrets, included hiding a lot of very important information until the very last minute. He is also very much an antagonist to (you), alongside Kris. So even if he isn't evil, he is still (you)r enemy.
Anonymous No.725077776 [Report]
>>725076258
All those guys are your friends though. At worst it'll be an evil scheme that all his friends including the party are invited to join. (you)'ll probably not be invited though
Anonymous No.725077827 [Report] >>725078339
>>725076190 (OP)
Flowey conditioned Undertale fans to think anyone with deep knowledge of the game mechanics is trying to manipulate you, and there's the scene in the jail where he's obviously talking with Kris behind your back when you're thinking about Susie, which has become a once-per-chapter thing at this point. And also after chapter 1 there was an explosion of people thinking Kris was secretly evil murderhobo Chara so Ralsei would be an accomplice or manipulator.
Anonymous No.725078164 [Report]
>>725077635
I still hate the little bastard because he's still lying to me and everyone else, and only responds with "boohoo poor me" when questioned. That and he's working with Kris against me.
Anonymous No.725078339 [Report] >>725078503
>>725077827
>anyone with deep knowledge of the game mechanics is trying to manipulate you
He is trying to manipulate (you). Every action of his around (you) is either deception or appeasement. His little slip ups when things don't go to plan reveal how much he distrusts and fears (you). Like when (you) block a cutaway or when he thinks you've gotten control of Susie.
Anonymous No.725078503 [Report] >>725078972
>>725078339
Yeah it's pretty obvious Kris, Ralsei, and the Knight (plus more possibly, my bet's on Toriel) are trying to manipulate us the player, the question is whether they're doing it for nefarious reasons or they're trying to do something good and are just worried that the eldritch extra-dimensional god will fuck them over somehow if they don't (like in the weird route).
Anonymous No.725078972 [Report]
>>725078503
>Toriel
I think she's too stupid and too much of a hard up bitch (would clash with Carol) to be part of the Knight plot. She would spill the beans somewhere or get into a fight with Carol and ruin everything.
>or they're trying to do something good and are just worried that the eldritch extra-dimensional god will fuck them over somehow if they don't (like in the weird route).
Would be extra ironic since most players only do the weird route out of desperation due to all the mistreatment they get from them.
Anonymous No.725079243 [Report] >>725079420 >>725081538
>>725076190 (OP)
conspiring with kris behind (you)r back
but you can shut that down in 3 and 4, and there is also the big important "i am terribly concerned about the prophecy" plot point
of course, that doesn't mean that he stopped all scheming or that he revealed everything like his fire magic, but the bottom line is that it's unlikely for him to end up a twist villain or a traitor
Anonymous No.725079420 [Report] >>725079889
>>725079243
Anon, he's not going to betray the fun gang, he's going to save them from (you)
Anonymous No.725079661 [Report]
>>725076190 (OP)
>goat
>anagram of asriel
>pink horns
Anonymous No.725079889 [Report] >>725080098 >>725080102
>>725079420
nah, he's too much of a doormat and toby is too much of a hack, so if ralsei explicitly acknowledges the player, he will play nice
it's not like (you) even have much opportunity to fuck shit up (besides the elephant in the room) and the fuck squad still needs the soul to deal with dark fountains, so what is there to save them from?
Anonymous No.725080074 [Report] >>725080154
Anonymous No.725080098 [Report] >>725080832
>>725079889
He knows (you) aren't gonna like what happens at the end of the game, so he's trying extra hard to hide it from (you), as is Kris. So in all likelyhood, he's either gonna sacrifice/banish (you) at the end, or do something else that would royally piss (you) off, but only once he no longer needs (you)r cooperation.
Anonymous No.725080102 [Report] >>725080832
>>725079889
>the soul is needed to close the dark fountain
jee if only there was a dark fountain that Ralsei really needed to stay open no matter what, then he'd have a reason to get rid of us.
Anonymous No.725080154 [Report]
>>725080074
Why is he naked? Is this selfcest?
Anonymous No.725080215 [Report]
>>725076190 (OP)
I wonder how he'd react if he could hear (you)r honest opinions of him?
Anonymous No.725080356 [Report]
>>725076190 (OP)
Probably because of the line: "Kris I'm going to merge with the Dark Fountain and become a Titan and shove you and Susie down my throbbing cock and turn you into Darkner cum and my left ball will be called Kris and my right ball Susie" delivered straight without joking
Anonymous No.725080434 [Report] >>725080702 >>725083945
What the topic of this thread happens to be, given what shortly occurred before its creation in the other thread about Deltarune currently on this board, I have to say you're making this so easy it's getting boring.
Especially given the two recycled bait threads that were posted after it seems you failed to entice anyone to participate.
Anonymous No.725080560 [Report]
>>725076190 (OP)
Because he was and still is blatantly trying to keep You and Susie in the dark about things that go against the narrative he was trying to build about The Prophecy and the whole nature of your adventures in the Dark Worlds
Anonymous No.725080674 [Report]
>>725076190 (OP)
Because he has stolen the vital essence of many anons.
Anonymous No.725080702 [Report]
>>725080434
What are you talking about?
Anonymous No.725080809 [Report]
>>725076793
DREEMUR = MURDERER
RALSEI = SERIAL
Anonymous No.725080832 [Report] >>725081265
>>725080098
yeah i'm reasonably sure the ending will be the soul disappering for good, probably in some wacky reinterpretation of the prophecy as heroic sacrifice and banishing light
that's the whole point of prophecies really, when was the last time a character understood one clearly and there were no gotchas down the line?

>>725080102
making assumptions about how the player feels is bit too presumptuous, and verbal boss battles are a staple of crpgs (not jrpgs), so player's own attitude will simply be sidestepped and not elaborated upon

i mean, what if (you) don't care about the first dark fountain, or the suicidal finale, or whatever? the main plot is railroaded, and how (you) feel about it all will remain on this side of the screen, characters will be given no opportunity to ask and the player will be given no option to explain
Anonymous No.725081265 [Report] >>725081527 >>725082104
>>725080832
>that's the whole point of prophecies really
You can play them straight and just have them be the force of destiny that makes the hero win. Nobody does that any more, but its always been an option.

>when was the last time a character understood one clearly and there were no gotchas down the line?
JoJo did that a few times. Its done the gotchas too, but its also played it straight, like with Zeppeli.

>i mean, what if (you) don't care about the first dark fountain, or the suicidal finale, or whatever?
Nta, but I would ask why you're even playing the game at that point if none of the plot interests you.

>the main plot is railroaded, and how (you) feel about it all will remain on this side of the screen, characters will be given no opportunity to ask and the player will be given no option to explain
I can see that, but that really feels like the setup to a payoff. Its building all the tension and all this desire on the player's part, just to do nothing with it. It has to be leading to some kind of confrontation with more than just fists.
Anonymous No.725081446 [Report]
>>725076190 (OP)
he's inexplicably a doppelganger of your character's brother, who was the villain in the "last" game
conceptually he starts off on a very bad foot
Anonymous No.725081524 [Report] >>725081662 >>725087009
Anonymous No.725081527 [Report] >>725082096
>>725081265
i think the prophecy in deltarune operates on exact words
this is most clearly seen with what happens to tenna, where the prophecy states that he will be 'cleaved' and depicts an image of a slashed through tv
this does happen no matter what in ch3, but if you recruit everyone they manage to fix tenna and he survives, where as if you are missing anyone they fail
in deltarune all that seems to matter is the words, what's stated will come to be no matter what, but it does have some wiggle room due to the interpretation of words and what happens after said part
Anonymous No.725081538 [Report] >>725081675 >>725082876 >>725088089
>>725079243
It's really interesting to think about what Ralsei thinks of us
He clearly knows about Kris's situation, and he also seems to genuinely consider himself Kris's friend and sympathizes with them, but he still plays along and pretends to not be aware that we're watching. Why does he think he has to do that? Is that what he thinks we want from him?
Does he think that we're The Angel, or does he suspect that we're something more? Is it just about following The Prophecy? What is he afraid might happen if he just talks to us?
Anonymous No.725081662 [Report]
>>725081524
Slut.
Anonymous No.725081675 [Report] >>725082170
>>725081538
if he addresses me, i will kill him 100% without remorse or further consideration assuming the game allows it
Anonymous No.725081834 [Report] >>725082240 >>725082808 >>725083459
>Ralsei knows what You look like
Anonymous No.725081917 [Report]
>>725076793
Yes. His penis really is enormous.
Anonymous No.725082096 [Report]
>>725081527
What does that have to do with my post?
Anonymous No.725082104 [Report] >>725082687
>>725081265
>if none of the plot interests you
i'll be more clear: what if i DON'T MIND the fountain in school, or helping out kris (against his will), or going out in a blaze of glory for the game's finale, what conflict is there then? there is none, which is (you) won't get a dozen "legit" dialogue options to discuss shit for real, that is assuming other characters will understand what the soul is before the 11th hour at all

>some kind of confrontation
there's gonna be drama, but specifically among the party, you will be stuck without your own proper voice one way or another
for the same reason, i don't think we'll get to control our vessel (or noelle) for real, because that would mean too much "real" (in the context of the story) agency to handle and resolve in satisfying way
hence all that and player motivation will be "sidestepped", not addressed rather than addressed poorly, as it happens with any blank slate character (it's just that here it's the soul, and not kris, who is a blank slate)
i'd be happy to be wrong and get a few VS ravel or VS kreia chats, but that is overdosing on hopium
Anonymous No.725082170 [Report] >>725082212
>>725081675
You wouldn't do that anyways?
Anonymous No.725082212 [Report]
>>725082170
well no, he knows his place, that's why he doesn't acknowledge my existence when i'm watching.
Anonymous No.725082240 [Report]
>>725081834
I hope he likes my bulging gut and receding hairline
Anonymous No.725082292 [Report]
This young man is not to be trusted.
Anonymous No.725082346 [Report]
Cave story character design just copy & pasted looking ass rial
Anonymous No.725082687 [Report] >>725084268
>>725082104
>: what if i DON'T MIND the fountain in school, or helping out kris (against his will), or going out in a blaze of glory for the game's finale, what conflict is there then?
None, you get a the option to say you agree with the characters and let it happen.

>which is (you) won't get a dozen "legit" dialogue options to discuss shit for real
Anon, the entire point of options is that they're player choice. If you don't want that option, you just don't choose it. There's also loads of shit you are meant to miss by choosing only the option you want, thereby missing the other choices. I don't get why you think Toby would suddenly quit doing that.

>there's gonna be drama, but specifically among the party, you will be stuck without your own proper voice one way or another
I suppose he could do that, but that would be a horrible waste of all this narrative potential and build up of discontent with the player. I'd almost say its Ryan Johnson tier in terms of being a fuck you to the player. Maybe Toby never grew as a writer past the Halloween hack, but I sincerely hope not.

>because that would mean too much "real" (in the context of the story) agency to handle and resolve in satisfying way
I don't think it could be resolved in a satisfying way without the real agency. It would just be a fuck you ending.

>not addressed rather than addressed poorly
That is addressing it poorly. That's the worst way it could be addressed.

You've got all this build up of the player being blue balled, cucked, ignored, abused, and denied again and again. Him getting more and more discontent throughout the story. Desperately wishing to say something to the characters, eventually to scream at them, because he's been bottled up for so long. And then at the end? Ha ha, that's it. Nothing for you. Go to hell. The end.

Really good ending.
Anonymous No.725082808 [Report]
>>725081834
Imagine finding out your god is some 4th dimensional hyper realistic unwashed autist locked in his goon cave with only the light of his keyboard illuminating him.

Imagine you found this out, and then the person who told you this kept cheerfully worshipping it right after telling you.
Anonymous No.725082850 [Report] >>725082961
Why doesn't Ralsei have his own theme?
Anonymous No.725082876 [Report]
>>725081538
He's obviously got some secret plan that he knows we would sabotage if he told us about it. Something that would really screw us over.
Anonymous No.725082947 [Report] >>725083016
>>725076190 (OP)
not evil, just a phony and not the real Prince in the prophecy
Anonymous No.725082961 [Report]
>>725082850
He doesn't deserve one.

In all seriousness, I think the legend/empty town/castle town motif is his theme.
Anonymous No.725083016 [Report]
>>725082947
Unfortunately, his name wasn't a unicode character, so he couldn't be put in the prophecy by name. And since he wasn't any dark prince can fill that role.
Anonymous No.725083459 [Report] >>725083539
>>725081834
Wouldn't be the first game to literally show your face as a representation of a higher power.
Anonymous No.725083539 [Report] >>725083798 >>725083814
>>725083459
What game?
Anonymous No.725083798 [Report]
>>725083539
He's probably talking about Bravely Default
Anonymous No.725083814 [Report]
>>725083539
Bravely Default
The final boss wants to invade the "celestial realm" so he tears open a portal to it and the camera for your 3ds turns on to show your face
Anonymous No.725083945 [Report]
>>725080434
Anonymous No.725084196 [Report]
>>725076793
About
Twelve
Inches
Anonymous No.725084268 [Report] >>725084796
>>725082687
i am not saying any of that is zenith of writing or even appealing to me, i am describing my expectations
it seems that you are the one overdosing on hopium of how toby can do nothing wrong, apparently forgetting how many narratively-relevant decisions a certain possessed teen with lizard fever can make
hint: not a lot, and never more than selecting one out of four, really just snowgrave

>player choice
do i need to describe the differences between dialogue options in jrpgs and crpgs and cyoas? some choices are just flavor, some have purely mechanical effects, some create big forks in the road
it is naive to expect some transcendent-one-tier verbal boss battle circling back to every side quest you did (or did not) do, rather than just 2 to 4 options to say vague shit before the final boss of the route
Anonymous No.725084462 [Report] >>725084946 >>725086098
>THREE HEROES APPEARED TO BANISH THE ANGELS HEAVEN

>The EARTH will draw her final breath.
>Only then, shining with hope...
>Three HEROES appear at WORLDS' edge.
>A HUMAN, A MONSTER, And a PRINCE FROM THE DARK.
>Only they can seal the fountains
>And banish the ANGEL'S HEAVEN.
>Only then will balance be restored,
>And the WORLD saved from destruction.

>THE LAST PROPHECY. THE STORY'S END.
>AND THEN. WHEN ALL HOPE IS LOST FOR THE TALE
>THE FINAL TRAGEDY UNVEILS.
>TO SAVE THE WORLDS, THERE IS ONLY ONE WAY.
>————ONLY THEN, WILL THE WORLDS BE SAVED.

It is interesting that "BANISH THE ANGEL'S HEAVEN" is the central/climactic purpose of the Heroes' mission in both the original "him.png" text and Ralsei's version of The Legend, but in the actual Prophecy, "ANGEL" and "HEAVEN" are only mentioned once and in separate instances.
>THEY'LL HEAR THE RING OF HEAVEN'S CALL.
>THEY'LL SEE THE TAIL OF HELL TAKE CRAWL.
>THE ANGEL, BANISHED, WILL
FINALLY MEET WITH ITS DESIRE.
The Angel one is particularly interesting, since it does mention The Angel being "banished," but that was the climax/resolution in the other versions while this doesn't seem to be part of "The Last Prophecy."
Also, this whole idea that the Heroes are meant to banish The Angel has not been addressed or discussed whatsoever since Ralsei told us The Legend in Chapter 1. Even in Chapter 4, we learn more about the religion and there's symbolism everywhere, but there's no answers about why we're doing this. If anything it raises more questions; the townsfolk worship The Angel, but the Heroes who are supposed to banish it are held in high regard too?
But "THE ANGEL, BANISHED, WILL FINALLY MEET WITH ITS DESIRE" does sound like it's exactly what The Angel wants. But why?
Anonymous No.725084493 [Report]
>>725076190 (OP)
He's not truly evil. Like he's not doing things out of pure evil intentions. He's just a huge loser who's only real basis of existence is on the prophecy. Its all he knows and can't help but follow it. But he only knows it as a series of events, no idea what parts are important or how the others might feel about it. You saw from CH3 he even views himself as expendable and only after you and Susie start making him feel like an actual real friend does he get all weird.
He's just a massive people pleaser that tries too hard to be the bestest friend ever, but in this endeavor actually overcorrects and does stuff that upsets others as he decides for them on what they should and shouldn't know.
He's hot as fuck though
Anonymous No.725084796 [Report] >>725086605
>>725084268
>it seems that you are the one overdosing on hopium of how toby can do nothing wrong
I don't think he can do no wrong. I just expect him to at least attempt it and fail, rather than take the cheap and easy route. Toby is many things, but he is not a lazy writer. He takes that part of his work seriously, and that goes double for his magnum opus dream game.

I don't expect him to take the safe option here, and I would lose all respect for him if he did.

>do i need to describe the differences between dialogue options in jrpgs and crpgs and cyoas?
Not really, since this series already breaks from that mold anyways.

>it is naive to expect some transcendent-one-tier verbal boss battle circling back to every side quest you did (or did not) do, rather than just 2 to 4 options to say vague shit before the final boss of the route
That's a false dichotomy, that it can only be one of these two extremes and nothing in between. I'm not expecting that the player will be able to change the ending. I"m expecting that the player will be given an option to say his piece for once in the entire game and the characters will be forced to listen. He'll get some answers, they'll get some answers, and then they'll progress on to the ending. Whether or not that ending can be changed is a separate issue entirely.
Anonymous No.725084946 [Report] >>725085017 >>725085278
>>725084462
>Ralsei's version
>Him.png version
>actual prophecy
which one is which here?
Anonymous No.725085017 [Report]
>>725084946
the truth is somewhere in between.
Anonymous No.725085092 [Report]
>>725076190 (OP)
He's clearly going to be the Super Boss in one of the routes, just like Asriel
Anonymous No.725085278 [Report] >>725086098
>>725084946
"THREE HEROES APPEARED TO BANISH THE ANGELS HEAVEN" is the message in Wingdings titled "him.png" that was on the deltarune.com website in like 2016
The second one ("Three HEROES appear at WORLDS' edge") is Ralsei's version, "The Legend of Delta Rune" that he tells you when you meet him in Chapter 1.
The third one is The Prophecy that we see in Chapter 4, which is the original and true version of the story. Ralsei based the story he told you off of The Prophecy.
Anonymous No.725086098 [Report]
>>725085278
I>>725084462
I think the Gaster one was just Gaster quoting Ralsei's version, probably a teaser for chapter 1.
Anonymous No.725086605 [Report] >>725087719
>>725084796
it's wiser not to expect too much from a funny animal adventure, that's just setting yourself up for disappointment, but different strokes and all that
>breaks from that mold
>false dichotomy
that is plain wrong view on how all the variable narrative stuff works, different endings are not even a relevant point (assuming no huge genre pivots later on)
from a purely mechanical standpoint, there is absolutely nothing revolutionary in the way player can interact with the story: there are opportunities to skip cutscenes, confirm progress, get some different flavor and optional scenes, and (notably) see gameplay reactivity with castle town and snowgrave
it worked like that so far, which is not too different from undertale, so why assume some big shakeup later? one which would requires more work and a very different style of interaction? especially when elaborate dialogues are a huge selling point, that's something that gets baked in from day one, but really only in (w/c)rpgs, not added in the last act, and even in such games opportunities get fewer and branches wither as end approaches
jrpgs rely on generic NPCs banter changing after each notable plot point (such as at chapter end), whatever choices you get will have negligible flavor differences (like photo with ralsei), or simple mutually exclusive scenes (making camera follow susie)
again, it is not strictly speaking IMPOSSIBLE we will get a heart-to-heart with kris via twelve different lines that branch off in different directions, but expecting that seems unreasonable
Anonymous No.725087009 [Report]
>>725081524
I was unconvinced until I saw the butt.
Anonymous No.725087338 [Report] >>725087767
I'm still 100% convinced Noelle is the Angel and the player is just a red herring.
Anonymous No.725087534 [Report]
>>725076190 (OP)
>Overtly faggoty and cutesy attention whore who tries way to hard
>Lying/withholding information
>darknigger
I WONDER WHY
Anonymous No.725087624 [Report]
WHEN THE LIGHT IS RUNNING LOW
AND THE SHADOWS START TO GROW
AND THE PLACES THAT YOU KNOW
FEEL LIKE FAN~TA~SY
THERE'S A LIGHT INSIDE YOUR SOUL
THAT'S STILL SHINING IN THE COLD
WITH THE PROMISE IN OUR HEARTS
THAT I'M WITH YOU IN THE DARK

THIS WORLD HAS HOPES AND DREAMS
OF THE HEROES OF THE LIGHT
AND IF THEY DO NOT SUCCEED (AND WITH THEM,)
WE'LL FACE ETERNAL NIGHT
SO IF IT SEEMS YOU'RE OUTMATCHED
OR THAT YOU'RE NOT IN CONTROL
JUST GIVE UP (JUST REMEMBER)
RIP OUT WHAT MAKES YOU WHOLE (HAVE THAT HOPE INSIDE YOUR SOUL)

AT THE EDGE OF THE SHADOW
WHERE REALITY AND DREAM COLLIDE
OUR CALLS THROUGH THE THREE HEROES WILL SHATTER
TWILIGHT'S REVERIE!
Anonymous No.725087719 [Report]
>>725086605
>it's wiser not to expect too much from a funny animal adventure
Its been more than just that for me so far

I'm already expecting the game to disappoint though, just not in that way.

>so why assume some big shakeup later?
First of all, even the craziest interpretation of what I'm suggesting wouldn't be something the series hasn't already done in some capacity. Second, Toby loves big last act shake ups. Just remember the end up Undertale, or how every chapter of Deltarune takes a sharp left turn at the end.

>one which would requires more work and a very different style of interaction?
That's exactly why he would do it. The finale is he kind of thing you put all of the effort into. That and because it would be different and would leave an impact on the player.

>specially when elaborate dialogues are a huge selling point, that's something that gets baked in from day one, but really only in (w/c)rpgs
Again you refer to genre convention as though this isn't some weird genre mashup that does whatever it wants at any given time.

>and even in such games opportunities get fewer and branches wither as end approaches
Yet here its the opposite. We've gotten more choices and long drawn out interactive conversations now than we've had in the entire rest of the game up until this point. If the game continues this trend we really will get that "obscenely long unfeasible heart to heart" you describe at the end of the game.

Remember that conversation with Ralsei and Susie near the end of TV world, and compare that to what we got in chapter 2. That's the kind of growth I'm talking about
Anonymous No.725087767 [Report] >>725087858
>>725087338
I'm gonna put my red in Noelle's herring if you know what I mean.
Anonymous No.725087858 [Report]
>>725087767
Pretty sure we (yes, we) already did that during chapter 4.
Anonymous No.725088000 [Report]
It's hard not to think he doesn't have his own motives at lease before chapter 3 and 4 fleshed him out more.

>knows far more than he lets on
>knows about "you"
>freaks out when susie said kris made her do something
>afraid of the cold
>worried about you wanting to be around noelle in the weird route
>knows fire magic but refuses to use it for some reason
>can literally fully revive kris any time but only shows it during the titan fight
Anonymous No.725088089 [Report]
>>725081538
I think you'd be skeeved out too