>>725079243
It's really interesting to think about what Ralsei thinks of us
He clearly knows about Kris's situation, and he also seems to genuinely consider himself Kris's friend and sympathizes with them, but he still plays along and pretends to not be aware that we're watching. Why does he think he has to do that? Is that what he thinks we want from him?
Does he think that we're The Angel, or does he suspect that we're something more? Is it just about following The Prophecy? What is he afraid might happen if he just talks to us?
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>An angel is watching us.
>* Good day, Kris. May the Angel watch over you...
>* [Heaven], are you WATCHING?
>Oh my god, so like, the Angel, that's watching over all of us?
>It has, like, this COOL prophecy, like, foretold by time and space.
>* ... Kris, please, look to the Angel for guidance.
>* Good day, Kris. May the Angel watch over you...
>* [Heaven], are you WATCHING?
>Oh my god, so like, the Angel, that's watching over all of us?
>It has, like, this COOL prophecy, like, foretold by time and space.
>* ... Kris, please, look to the Angel for guidance.
>>718984217
You already conceded that Deltarune is metafiction. By your own admission Deltarune is a story that makes the person experiencing it part of the story. You've already admitted to this obvious thing that anyone who has played Undertale and more than five minutes of Deltarune would be able to figure out, but you're going to continue to pretend you don't know this and haven't already admitted you were wrong because you're an obnoxious retard who has nothing better to do on a Sunday night than waste people's time with pointless arguing about a game for children.
You already conceded that Deltarune is metafiction. By your own admission Deltarune is a story that makes the person experiencing it part of the story. You've already admitted to this obvious thing that anyone who has played Undertale and more than five minutes of Deltarune would be able to figure out, but you're going to continue to pretend you don't know this and haven't already admitted you were wrong because you're an obnoxious retard who has nothing better to do on a Sunday night than waste people's time with pointless arguing about a game for children.
>An angel is watching us.
>* Good day, Kris. May the Angel watch over you...
>Oh my god, so like, the Angel, that's watching over all of us?
>It has, like, this COOL prophecy, like, foretold by time and space.
>* ... Kris, please, look to the Angel for guidance. I will pray for you as well.
>* [Angel], [Angel]
>* ARE YOU LOOKING FOR THE [Ring] of [Thorns]?
>* Good day, Kris. May the Angel watch over you...
>Oh my god, so like, the Angel, that's watching over all of us?
>It has, like, this COOL prophecy, like, foretold by time and space.
>* ... Kris, please, look to the Angel for guidance. I will pray for you as well.
>* [Angel], [Angel]
>* ARE YOU LOOKING FOR THE [Ring] of [Thorns]?
>>718738107
She knows that's not Kris, she's in denial because she's suddenly in a creepypasta where her friend is possessed by a demon
You can be obtuse about this all you want but there are still other characters like Ralsei (and, you know, Kris) who are clearly aware of You
You are a part of the story whether you like it or not
She knows that's not Kris, she's in denial because she's suddenly in a creepypasta where her friend is possessed by a demon
You can be obtuse about this all you want but there are still other characters like Ralsei (and, you know, Kris) who are clearly aware of You
You are a part of the story whether you like it or not
>>532631385
Explain his reaction here if it's not him being aware of (You)
Explain his reaction here if it's not him being aware of (You)
>>715456009
Chara made me do it bro
Chara made me do it bro
>>531155505
Ralsei absolutely knows about YOU
Ralsei absolutely knows about YOU
>>531155505
Ralsei absolutely knows about YOU
Ralsei absolutely knows about YOU
>>531155505
Ralsei absolutely knows about YOU
Ralsei absolutely knows about YOU
>>715120873
>Why doesn't he tell Ralsei?
Ralsei knows about the SOUL, and Kris knows that he knows, but they aren't working together. Kris is aligned with The Knight. All that Kris and Ralsei know about YOU is that they both need YOU for their plans.
Going by the scene with Susie after you EQUIP Noelle, Kris also seems afraid to get anyone else involved. They tell Susie not to ask about what happened anymore. We've already shown that we're willing to try to kill Kris's friends.
>If Ralsei knows, why doesn't he do anything
What can he do? Noelle is in the Light World.
Ralsei needs YOU to cooperate as much as Kris does. Without your power, they can't seal the fountains. If you give up on Deltarune, the world is covered in darkness and everyone dies. That's not a risk Ralsei is willing to take.
Even if Kris wanted to tell Ralsei, they weren't given the opportunity to in Chapter 4. We're watching and listening the whole time they're together, and even during the obligatory "What's Susie doing?" scene Ralsei runs off to destroy more pieces of The Prophecy.
>Why doesn't he tell Ralsei?
Ralsei knows about the SOUL, and Kris knows that he knows, but they aren't working together. Kris is aligned with The Knight. All that Kris and Ralsei know about YOU is that they both need YOU for their plans.
Going by the scene with Susie after you EQUIP Noelle, Kris also seems afraid to get anyone else involved. They tell Susie not to ask about what happened anymore. We've already shown that we're willing to try to kill Kris's friends.
>If Ralsei knows, why doesn't he do anything
What can he do? Noelle is in the Light World.
Ralsei needs YOU to cooperate as much as Kris does. Without your power, they can't seal the fountains. If you give up on Deltarune, the world is covered in darkness and everyone dies. That's not a risk Ralsei is willing to take.
Even if Kris wanted to tell Ralsei, they weren't given the opportunity to in Chapter 4. We're watching and listening the whole time they're together, and even during the obligatory "What's Susie doing?" scene Ralsei runs off to destroy more pieces of The Prophecy.
>>530352152
He already knows
He already knows
>>714499354
This kinda counts, right?
This kinda counts, right?
>>529758890
Ralsei has a higher level of meta-knowledge than most other characters. Darkners in general seem to be aware of things like game controls, but Ralsei is fully conscious of the player, SAVEing, and so on. He got startled because he thought Susie somehow had the same level of awareness.
I have a theory that Ralsei's meta-knowledge ties back to the grand dark fountain, which is why your recruits refer to you as "Boss" and seem to distinguish you from Kris, as discussed earlier in the thread.
Ralsei has a higher level of meta-knowledge than most other characters. Darkners in general seem to be aware of things like game controls, but Ralsei is fully conscious of the player, SAVEing, and so on. He got startled because he thought Susie somehow had the same level of awareness.
I have a theory that Ralsei's meta-knowledge ties back to the grand dark fountain, which is why your recruits refer to you as "Boss" and seem to distinguish you from Kris, as discussed earlier in the thread.
>>714308154
Ralsei knows about you and it's his town so he probably named it after you.
Ralsei knows about you and it's his town so he probably named it after you.
>>529496220
Ralsei 100% knows.
>Press the boxes onto the switches with Z!
>(Wait, who the hell is Z?)
Ralsei 100% knows.
>Press the boxes onto the switches with Z!
>(Wait, who the hell is Z?)
>>3793891
Prophecy knowledge can come from elsewhere, but not metaknowledge.
Prophecy knowledge can come from elsewhere, but not metaknowledge.
>>714048919
Ralsei also doesn't compliment Kris's piano playing when you leave, even if you comfort him.
>>714048958
>Why is Ralsei so anti player
Ralsei isn't against us. Ralsei is aware of us but doesn't want us to know that. Ralsei and Kris both know that (You) are watching them, and Ralsei is trying to maintain kayfabe throughout the game.
Ralsei is presumably aware that if you abandon the game the world is doomed, so he does his best to appeal to you and accommodate what you want to keep you engaged with the game. He's also aware that you're possessing Kris against their will, so he creates opportunities to distract you to give Kris a break sometimes, just out of the goodness of his heart.
Ralsei also doesn't compliment Kris's piano playing when you leave, even if you comfort him.
>>714048958
>Why is Ralsei so anti player
Ralsei isn't against us. Ralsei is aware of us but doesn't want us to know that. Ralsei and Kris both know that (You) are watching them, and Ralsei is trying to maintain kayfabe throughout the game.
Ralsei is presumably aware that if you abandon the game the world is doomed, so he does his best to appeal to you and accommodate what you want to keep you engaged with the game. He's also aware that you're possessing Kris against their will, so he creates opportunities to distract you to give Kris a break sometimes, just out of the goodness of his heart.
>>713777360
Nope.
Nope.
>>713419386
He knows you're there.
He knows you're there.
>>528436392
Are you sure about that?
Are you sure about that?
>>713248796
>>713249270
To elaborate: Ralsei's reaction to thinking we were controlling Susie is suspicious. This makes me think it's possible to swap from Kris to Susie somehow, and at that point if we know the codes to the bunker we can just run straight out of the Dark World and into the bunker without Kris being able to stop us.
>>713249270
To elaborate: Ralsei's reaction to thinking we were controlling Susie is suspicious. This makes me think it's possible to swap from Kris to Susie somehow, and at that point if we know the codes to the bunker we can just run straight out of the Dark World and into the bunker without Kris being able to stop us.
>>712969667
>knows the prophecy involves Susie getting the SOUL
>knows Susie is supposed to be able to equip ribbons
>looks DIRECTLY back at you when you put the ribbon on Susie in the second board
He knows.
>knows the prophecy involves Susie getting the SOUL
>knows Susie is supposed to be able to equip ribbons
>looks DIRECTLY back at you when you put the ribbon on Susie in the second board
He knows.
>>712953052
Ralsei knows a lot of shit he shouldn't. He almost certainly knew your names a long time ago.
Ralsei knows a lot of shit he shouldn't. He almost certainly knew your names a long time ago.
>>712953052
Ralsei knows a lot of shit he shouldn't. He almost certainly knew your names a long time ago.
Ralsei knows a lot of shit he shouldn't. He almost certainly knew your names a long time ago.
>>712953052
Ralsei knows a lot of shit he shouldn't. He almost certainly knew your names a long time ago.
Ralsei knows a lot of shit he shouldn't. He almost certainly knew your names a long time ago.
>>712953052
Ralsei knows a lot of shit he shouldn't. He almost certainly knew your names a long time ago.
Ralsei knows a lot of shit he shouldn't. He almost certainly knew your names a long time ago.
>>712953052
Ralsei knows a lot of shit he shouldn't. He almost certainly knew your names a long time ago.
Ralsei knows a lot of shit he shouldn't. He almost certainly knew your names a long time ago.
>>712953052
Ralsei knows a lot of shit he shouldn't. He almost certainly knew your names a long time ago.
Ralsei knows a lot of shit he shouldn't. He almost certainly knew your names a long time ago.
>>712953052
Ralsei knows a lot of shit he shouldn't. He almost certainly knew your names a long time ago.
Ralsei knows a lot of shit he shouldn't. He almost certainly knew your names a long time ago.
>>712953052
Ralsei knows a lot of shit he shouldn't. He almost certainly knew your names a long time ago.
Ralsei knows a lot of shit he shouldn't. He almost certainly knew your names a long time ago.
>>712953052
Ralsei knows a lot of shit he shouldn't. He almost certainly knew your names a long time ago.
Ralsei knows a lot of shit he shouldn't. He almost certainly knew your names a long time ago.
>>712953052
Ralsei knows a lot of shit he shouldn't. He almost certainly knew your names a long time ago.
Ralsei knows a lot of shit he shouldn't. He almost certainly knew your names a long time ago.
>>712953052
Ralsei knows a lot of shit he shouldn't. He almost certainly knew your names a long time ago.
Ralsei knows a lot of shit he shouldn't. He almost certainly knew your names a long time ago.
>>712953052
Ralsei knows a lot of shit he shouldn't. He almost certainly knew your names a long time ago.
Ralsei knows a lot of shit he shouldn't. He almost certainly knew your names a long time ago.
>>712953052
Ralsei knows a lot of shit he shouldn't. He almost certainly knew your names a long time ago.
Ralsei knows a lot of shit he shouldn't. He almost certainly knew your names a long time ago.
>>712953052
Ralsei knows a lot of shit he shouldn't. He almost certainly knew your names a long time ago.
Ralsei knows a lot of shit he shouldn't. He almost certainly knew your names a long time ago.
>>712953052
Ralsei knows a lot of shit he shouldn't. He almost certainly knew your names a long time ago.
Ralsei knows a lot of shit he shouldn't. He almost certainly knew your names a long time ago.
>>712953052
Ralsei knows a lot of shit he shouldn't. He almost certainly knew your names a long time ago.
Ralsei knows a lot of shit he shouldn't. He almost certainly knew your names a long time ago.
>>712829681
He's already a schizo. It's inevitable.
He's already a schizo. It's inevitable.
>>712806824
Fusion dance between (You) and Susie.
Fusion dance between (You) and Susie.
What happens if you choose the pizza deodorant?
>>712690454
Ralsei isn't a copy of Asriel, they're a copy of Kris. They're who Kris wanted to be as a kid to fit in with the rest of the family.
Ralsei isn't a copy of Asriel, they're a copy of Kris. They're who Kris wanted to be as a kid to fit in with the rest of the family.
>>712681787
>>712682631
It's very clearly Susie with your equipment. There's a reason why Ralsei looks at (You) when he thinks someone has forced Susie to wear a ribbon.
>>712682631
It's very clearly Susie with your equipment. There's a reason why Ralsei looks at (You) when he thinks someone has forced Susie to wear a ribbon.
>>712648170
Ralsei is a Freedom Schizo like Spamton, Ramb and Gerson.
Ralsei is a Freedom Schizo like Spamton, Ramb and Gerson.
HE KNOWS
>>712622210
Susie is the Girl. Ralsei knows about (You) and that you're meant to be inside Susie, who's meant to use your gear.
Susie is the Girl. Ralsei knows about (You) and that you're meant to be inside Susie, who's meant to use your gear.
>>712617980
Literally inside Kris's head.
>Sword Game 2 shows that there's someone hiding inside Kris's head - where you find the shelter key - aka shelter password
>Sword Game 1 and Sword Game 3 both have FRIEND in there somewhere, so FRIEND should be in Sword Game 2 somewhere as well
>"think of the knight" shows that when you go on one of Ralsei's astral projection adventures, the Kris who's working with the Knight comes with you - they couldn't stop you from seeing her face if they weren't there with you
>If YOU are gone, and the SOUL is gone, and the TRAITOR is gone...
>...who the fuck is Ralsei talking to when we're not there?
>Ralsei is a Gaster Follower
>Ralsei knows about (YOU) and that you're destined to be inside Susie, not Kris
>There is a FRIEND inside you
Literally inside Kris's head.
>Sword Game 2 shows that there's someone hiding inside Kris's head - where you find the shelter key - aka shelter password
>Sword Game 1 and Sword Game 3 both have FRIEND in there somewhere, so FRIEND should be in Sword Game 2 somewhere as well
>"think of the knight" shows that when you go on one of Ralsei's astral projection adventures, the Kris who's working with the Knight comes with you - they couldn't stop you from seeing her face if they weren't there with you
>If YOU are gone, and the SOUL is gone, and the TRAITOR is gone...
>...who the fuck is Ralsei talking to when we're not there?
>Ralsei is a Gaster Follower
>Ralsei knows about (YOU) and that you're destined to be inside Susie, not Kris
>There is a FRIEND inside you