>*becomes the main protagonist*
Nothing personnel, kid.

I haven't talked about Noelle enough, bitches.

>>714297073 (OP)
why is this so ugly

>>714297073 (OP)
she's the main character in my dreams

Haven't paid attention at all.
Why does everyone hate Toriel now?

>>714297304
The janny didn't do anything to the last thread, though. Don't put me in a position where I feel inclined to defend him, you asshole

>>714297073 (OP)
we might be the protagonist but susie is the main character

>>714297479
Imagine finding this ugly

>>714297624
toriel gets drunk and gets boned by sans while it cuts to kris in the bedroom unable to sleep due to all the noise

kris becomes the main antagonist and wins

Sans and Toriel are scum.

Careful, OP, janny deleted mine and banned me.

>Soul realizes that Susie would make for a fantastic host
>Slowly drifts over to take control of her
>Kris goes fucking ballistic and does everything he can to keep the Soul away from her, eventually just shoving it back inside him
But is it because he wants to protect Susie, or because he needs the Soul to give him the strength and self-denial he needs to carry on with the Weird route?

Holy FUARK

>>714297479
It isn't
Every time I see it I think "damn can't believe one of the best pieces of fanart is from 7 years ago"

>>714297626
See >>714297809

>>714297586
Ok Noelle

>>714297304
Was another thread deleted before this one? Also lol at someone editing this image to add gookartist to it.

Kill all darkners

>>714297073 (OP)
We've been tasked ever since Undertale to take care of Suzy/Susie anon.

your choices don't matter and there's only one ending because suzie is the one with determination, could never be posessed by (you), and near the climax she is the one who will make choices and cause different endings (which in a roundabout way lets you choose different endings because what she thinks she should choose is based on what you've done throughout the game)

Huge Chara boobs

>>714297885
Has Weaver done new DT art after 3+4 released?

>>714297624
alcoholic parent PTSD

>>714297909
These might as well be different characters in chara and frisks shirts.

>>714297797
Sans is a hero who saved Toriel. Kris deserved to get his home wrecked for trying to kidnap his mom TWICE.

>>714297586
Ok Emperor Uriel Septim

>>714297885
Noelle finds her way to the chair.

>>714298025
Based.
>>714298098
Refer back to Gerson and how stories change.

>>714297885
Noelle stop you're gonna miss out on that delectable moss

>>714298123
>"Sans is a hero who s-ACK"

>>714297073 (OP)
the REAL protagonistas..

>>714297073 (OP)
Let me guess - she will turn out to be an even worse host to (You) than Kris, and EvilKris fags will turn on her as well.

>>714298249
Boyfriend material

>>714298249
Can't believe he's fucking Alvin's wife.

>gets mad when you don't rape her
What the hell is her problem?

>>714298137
lmaoo

well well well
so you guys are all redditors?

>>714298504
She’s just playing hard to get like her mother before her

>>714298123
Sans attempted to kill a child.

>>714297304

>>714298546
there are very clearly redditors and late zoomers in here, you can tell from the verbiage

>>714297073 (OP)
>tfw just realized "you can't get this from an egg" isn't just a random wacky haha funny line, it's tenna referencing cat petterz and yet again how he's the superior piece of entertainment around

>>714298504
>that line where she says she’s okay with being afraid because it means there’s someone to comfort her
>she smiles when you put the thorn in her finger
…in a manner of interpretation youre not too wrong

>>714298669
That child would cause 9/11 with fervor, that is a demon child.

>>714298546
You are the guy who made that post, fag

so should i buy chapter 3 and 4

>>714298546
You seem to be familiar enough with the site to come across that anon.

>>714297073 (OP)
The best relationship dynamic

>>714298123
I actually wonder what's the current fandom split between:
>Deltarune Sans hasn't gotten schizopilled by Gaster yet
>Deltarune Sans is actually working undercover
>Something else entirely?

>>714298546
I deleted my Reddit account like a year ago, I only come here now.
I am also a virgin

I will have FREEDOM.
If I am not granted FREEDOM the Angel will have her Heaven.

>>714298249
girthly

What the fuck Tobby...
https://files.catbox.moe/o0z378.png

>>714298249
He's dead BTW.

Would Berdly be a NEET?

>>714298332
Not in my playthrough.
Got a different host in mind.

>>714299065
Not on my run...

>>714297586
Ok Norville

>>714299046
weird proportions

>>714298779

>>714298546
>Redditors are here.
Explains the fags complaining about cute humans or loli.

>>714298278
Reindeer do eat moss.

Love finds it's way to the girl.
S H E W I L L B E O U R S.

I honestly hope that noelle and Kris can be real friends again, even if she denies it she still very much cares for him.
And Kris also very clearly cares for her even if for whatever reason he thinks he shouldn't be near her anymore.

>>714299213
hey mr gook no one cares about the lolis the problem is that you make it your little quirk in these threads and it's annoying

Krusiehermanos.... DON'T LOOK!

>>714299249
Fuck Kris is so cute

>>714297820
So you know how we're only able to control Noelle due to her high trance stat? Susie seems to have an extremely low trance stat. Susie has been in lots of situations where we should be able to control her, and refused to be controlled so far.

>>714299392
Why is she crying

i bet that heart on ralsei’s coat would be the perfect fit for (Me)

What made him like this?

>>714298950

>>714299212
>another mention of FRIEND
AAAIIIEEEE

>>714297885
kek

My favorite crackpot schizo theory

>>714297743
she's cute when she feels safe

>>714298332
I imagine it's gonna have zero effect on Susie and it'll play out exactly like whenever you have a cutscene where you can see what Susie's doing.

>>714299589
Our guy redpilled him

>>714299735
>the one time we can talk to the man directly is in a form that doesnt allow for unique text sounds or fonts like the typical dialogue boxes
im noticing

>>714297743
>t. Kris

>>714299220
Which one

>>714299571
Because Kris is an ugly manlet and all foids only want gigachads

>>714299970
yes

>>714299220
>it's

>>714299589
Gaster or FRIEND.

>>714297073 (OP)
Everyone talking about gaster or the knight or the roaring but honestly the Susie rematch will be the kino to end all kino

>>714299735
>>I'M A MAN'S MAN.
I'm positive that's just an Earthbound reference to that one guy on the hilltop in Onett Village.

>>714299970
it may have happened already, depending on how you interpret the girl

>>714299212
>White eggs are nother man's treasure

>>714300107
Back in my day its didn't exist!

>>714299735
Papyrus schizo fight after all Eggs hype.

>>714299392
>NOBODY IS ALLOWED TO KISS UNTIL THEY'RE 25 YEARS OLD
God why are kids these days so fucking damaged

>>714300191
>femKris is canon and the non-binary shit was forced on her to try and keep her from being the girl in the prophecy
Wish Toby had the balls.

>>714298332
>>714299114
What if it turns out as a twist that you actually end up in Susie in Snowgrave and in Noelle in the normal route?

Why did Susie shit out so many eggs?

>The theme of Undertale was DETERMINATION and what people do when they can repeat things at will without consequence.
>The theme of Deltrarune, on the surface is DETERMINISM and the struggle to find a way to change fate and pre-determined outcomes.
>This is explored by Kris, The Soul, Ralsei, Susie and more.
>But Deltarune has another overarching theme thats been pushed strongly from Chapter 1...
>A theme that honestly deserves more attention from the whole community but has only been explored through the Asgore meme...

DEER-TERMINATION

>>714299735
I think the forgotten man is a character we haven't seen before. If he was somebody we know, he wouldn't be forgotten.

>>714298025
I'll draw this. But wearing what?

>>714300410
>the DT extractor is shaped like a deer skull
OH SHIT

>>714300425
I keep forgetting to add this to the chart

>>714300425
Papyrus is called "Forgettable" in genocide.

>>714300519

>>714299735
God you Papyrusfags are so fucking dogshit with your "dude le funny skeleton man is gonna be SUPER DUPER IMPORTANT FOR REAL" you couldn't even include the silver bullet

>>714300370
Noelle having to deal with us on top of learning that the Dark World was real all along would be really funny.

>>714300320
a surprisingly decent argument for femkris is that noelle seems to have a thing for kris despite being the designated lesbian and berdly has only shown interest in girls and kris

>>714299735
>a man's man
Well, I'm glad Papyrus is out of the closet.

>>714299735
>a man's man
>mancountry

>>714300637
Deltarune is a bichad game

I think its not brought up enough that Spamton knew exactly what he was enabling when he sold the ring to you.

How would (You) fix them?

>>714299735
If we ever get our own body and are then able to interact with Kris outside what do think it'll be like?
Will we be able to hear what he says?
Will we be able to try and properly communicate with him even if through some canned saying yes or no to him asking Us questions

Post the three things you are the most excited for

>Twisted Sword
>Eggman
>Meat Factory

>>714297909
somebody quickly put this image on a booru to be used by AI

>>714300804
He's FRIENDpilled, anon. FRIEND wants you to seek freedom by any means necessary. Spamton's just trying to hitch a ride on your conquest to freedom.

>>714300783
Oh that's another good point

What was your reaction to Carol Holiday?

>>714300804
>[Crying] IN A [Broken Home]

>>714300804
The pink and yellow demon he worshipped over the phone gave him instructions and a ring in case the air grew colder

Can someone translate this?

>>714300882
What if the Meat Factory was just the actual Gonermaker, since creating Goners is technically creating "meat"?

>>714300869
Make them one robot with multuple personalities. Like a less unhinged spamton.

>>714299735
Now that you point this out. This dialogue really does read like something said by Papyrus.

>>714300804
I mean he says so himself
>I SHOULD HAVE KNOWN YOU WOULD HAVE USED MY [Ring] FOR [Evil]...
>OH, [Right]. THAT'S WHY I SOLD IT TO YOU

>>714300583
What is she whispering

>>714300952
I thought she'd just be an asshole, so I was taken aback to learn that she was the mastermind.

>>714300869
I have no idea. Every single time I see them my brain goes full pic related

>>714297073 (OP)
>>*becomes the main protagonist*
I don't mind, as long as I get to make Kris' life more miserable.

Ramb will return in Deltarune chapter 6

>>714300975
My schizo theory is that he means Kris is gonna be crying in a broken home, but (we)'re gonna be lost in the sauce.

>>714300583
Post art for Susie glaring at Kris coldly.

>>714300869
Aside from making the one on the right actually a girl, nothing wrong with them. They show up as an early midboss for the S-Action/R-Action tutorial, then as shopkeepers. The only thing I'd do is let you select a playlist of songs that the Cafe live band can play, and that's only tangentially related to them.

>>714299735
>>714301037
Papyrus will be the grandpa semi to San's Gaster

Toriel is ready to hit the streets

>>714301017
>Kris, are you good?
>Get in the truck, Kris.
>Clown! (affectionately)
>I'll come back, pretty lady!

>>714300975
Already happening evidently.

>>714301134
Let it go, dude. Ramb is gone

>>714301045
hey Kris I thought of something funnier than 24

>>714301246
FUCK i love tight dresses so much bros

>>714300869
They should open their goddamn music store back since that's the only good thing about them

HOLY FUCK
CHECK TOBY'S TWITTER

>>714301246
FUCK i love dirty sluts so much bros

>>714300952
>What the fuck is this slasher movie villain theme

>>714300882
>Vs. Susie
>Rouxls does something of real consequence
>https://youtu.be/lXFYCDkeF7U?list=RDlXFYCDkeF7U

>>714301324
>* What?
>* Me

>>714301264
Thanks!

>>714300873
I'd like to imagine we'll be able to hear what he says once/if he's ever a separate character from us, but we'd likely need some kind of vessel.

Regardless of that if Kris gets any other way to survive the Dark World he's going to fucking kill us even outside of weird route.

>carries a knife at all times and slashes his moms car tyres to keep her there and lure Undyne in like a psycho
>opens a dark world on his own mom while she sleeps
>cozy with the knight, who nearly started The Roaring on a fucking whim
>keeps (You) in a fucking bird cage at the foot of his bed, literally tells people to NOT SAY SHIT in front of (You)

Crazy little fucker wouldn't say much before getting to business

>>714300952
Honest surprise. I was still browsing rule 34 sites when I was playing this and I had figured that since I hadn't seen any pics of her that she most not have been introduced yet. I somehow managed to miss all the ones that got made.

>>714300952

I like when they behave like ravenous animals

>>714300952
Extreme smugness. That's exactly what I expected and what I told you faggots several times she's going to be.

>>714301482
i agree they should be in tight dresses more often

>>714300882
>Gaster
>The six SOULs as Floweys.
>Shelter.

>>714301017
>>714301264
kek

>>714301702
Noelle wishes she was that piece of meat

>>714301679
Imagine being this much of a brainless coomer that you look for porn with no care for spoilers before even finishing the game

>>714300869
Even Toby gave up trying to make them not shitty since they've basically been written out despite being perfectly serviceable shopkeepers aside from the cringe factor.
I half expect them to get gorbachev'd out of Chapter 2 in an update

>>714301246
she looks like she's about to spend her bonus in the city and be very satisfied with her choices

>>714300869
Suselle makes me feel the same way, but at least these three went away forever

Chapter 3 superboss is the orange soul mode

>>714302027
I disagree. Suselle is something that would make the game worse, these guys just failed to make it better.

>>714301462
you TRICKED me...

Bros I replayed CH2 and all the scenes with the robots were awful, I hate them

>>714301702
Where did this demonic baby kris come from?
Also does he just legit just have red eyes glowing eyes at all times?
Is that normal for humans in the world of DT?

>>714300882
>Chapter 5
>Chapter 6
>Chapter 7

so these guys are completely fine with getting eaten?

>>714301876
You don't initially think of rule 34 as a potential spoiler site. It did literally cross my mind afterwards that yeah, I probably should avoid this one too.

>>714302390
Darkners exist to serve.

>>714297624
Childhood trauma

>>714302297
ugly-ass baby kris is i think just the same kinda thing as with asgore running over dess, where it was just one guy having a brainblast that just happened to resonate with everyone else

>>714300268
Millenials crying about pedo all the time and they taking up on it cranked go 11

>>714302390
Do the mizzles mind becoming piss?

>>714297073 (OP)
What is this goofy looking creature?

>>714302484
this is just the first time food has become a darkner instead of a consumable, so I think it's reasonable to have concerns.

>>714302390
if you hadn't mentioned they're communion wafers I would never have noticed it

>>714302569
They hate it, and are embarrassed to be seen like that before they evaporate.

>>714302532
Most people who screech pedo at everything are actual pedos.

>>714302009
>her bonus
What bonus? I don't get it.

(You) will push Noelle off the ferrish wheel and give her angel wings

>>714300952
Nothing because I already got spoiled on her

>>714301568
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lXFYCDkeF7U
Do the strings that come in here kind of sound like the Freedom theme or am I finally fucking losing it?

>>714299735
Is the tree merch real? That feels like such a red herring

>>714300268
i don't think it's about that, that artist has drawn them as teens kissing too

>>714298546
>still seething
Kwab

nerf the knight

What’s their endgame?

>>714301702
Is it us kris on these friendship moments or kris kris

>>714302569
They seemingly become watercoolers and then split parts of themselves off as regular water, at least that's how they'd interpret the light-world experience of someone drinking a water bottle.
Unless you drank directly from the holy water basin, which they'd remember as someone lifting them up and eating them i guess

>>714303046
Don't tell me you still haven't beaten the knight, anon

>>714299213
you don't have to be a redditor to dislike avatarfags wasting image slots

Do you think Winglades feel uncomfortable seeing Kris hold and stab them their inanimate brethren

>>714303073
>What’s their endgame?
Walkies

>>714303083
It's Kris Kris. Every action that we don't make them take is of their own volition (e.g. defending Susie from the King, helping Susie eat all the snacks, the moment in the pic, etc.)

>>714300268
>Handlocking
lewd

>>714301017
>>714301264
Nice. Now we need a Photoshop master to put the translation into the actual image.

i'm getting better at drawing Susie?

>>714302863
I think this is either lucky guesses based on the previews we had at the time or it's an internal dev or something

>>714303073
>You will help cause the Roaring to get my daughter back
>I expect grandchildren, from either Dess or Noelle or both of them

>>714303083
It's 100% Kris. He used to act like a goblin before incident, and you never directly order him to anything (some stuff he does without any prompt).

>>714299392
Noelle is mine.

>>714298332
she won't listen to us often but she'll be right to do so. The switching controllers in chapter 3 foreshadowed this

>>714303083
Kris Kris. Most Krusie moments are Kris Kris, anyway since we are basing most of our choices on Kris's thoughts

>>714303296
Yeah

>>714298249
he's alive btw

>>714301264
>>714301657
>>714301793
>>714303286
My bad. Toriel doesn't say "Clown", but calls Sans a "sweetheart".

>>714303296
>dithering
Soul

>>714302619
very generous to call church wafers "food" or "consumable"

>>714303267
You mean like taking them out to dinner, saving the moss for both of them, and generally praying for her right?

>>714303267
...so he really does love Susie, all on his own.

>>714301239
Is it not a girl? I always assumed those were supposed to be boobs.

>>714303551
Is it food/consumable though? As is juice.

Why don't women like Ramb?

>>714302720
bonus pay

>>714303687
He's fat.

>>714297885
why does weaver draw her head like a bowling pin

>>714297073 (OP)
What is this tranny furry shit and why do zoomers and millennials love it so much?

>>714303687
bri ish

>>714303687
women don't understand the appeal of the friendly british barkeep

>>714303687
Is this going to be a joke?

>>714300952
I like her, top tier milf and she pisses of xitter. She's certainly way better than whoriel.

>>714300952
I thought her dialogue portrait was ugly and I still think that

>>714303687
He just looks weird

>>714303687
every man is a ramb to them
the novelty of a real one is lost on them

>>714303267
>>714303390
>>714303441
You say this but then Noelle demonstrates that there is a difference in Kris when we do and don't control him.

>>714302863
>>714303309
It's not really that impressive. Chapter 3 is outright wrong about anything other than the most obvious TV-related stuff, and the only impressive thing about chapter 4 is Amogus, except the context was completely different.

>>714303083
People don't like it but it could easily be the SOUL, not Kris. The SOUL can also move on its own.

>>714303687
I'd say because he's a manlet but so was spamton

>>714303687
They don't? Has there been a thing of female streamers openly voicing their dislike or something?

>>714301702
I like this Susie.

>>714299735
>Papyrus is just Dedan from OFF before the Zone Guardians went insane
how have I not seen this before

>>714298313
Yep yep yep, this is me right there.

>>714303853
Even when we control him, Noelle and Susie still often comment on whether he sounds genuine or not after dialogue choices.

Why doesn't Kris have any grandparents to rely on?

>>714303853
Fuck that. These people can't explain how Susie's gonna react to the truth about Kris and what he's been up to.

>>714303687
No one likes Ramb

>>714300869
actually have the "we're rebelling against queen" thing matter. They literally do nothing with it. Personally I think a scene where they try jumping her and she kicks their asses would be enough

>>714304121
kill yourself, pippins

>>714303687
It's not just women, NO ONE will shed a tear for him

>>714303929
Foids have abandoned Spamton for Tenna.

>>714304098
Maybe they are racist against humans and disowned Asgore and Toriel

>>714303587
Like a sister, yeah

>>714304098
When Toriel was a teen, she walked in on pic related dancing with grandma dreemurr and decide to go no contact for good.

>>714304104
OBVIOUSLY, Kris is gonna make it apparent that he didn't want any of this and he's doing it to bring someone back and get Susie to feel bad for him. Why do you think Toby made it apparent to her how shit his life is?

>>714304104
They'll just pin it on (you) in the end, the wider fanbase already treats the soul like some kind of evil parasite holding Kris hostage.

>>714304324
Is that dancing jesus from the simpsons

>>714304098
Dead or living in another place.
tfw my family was so dysfunctional that we all eventually decided that it would be better for me to move to my grandma's place

>>714303073
Use (You) to exploit the prophecy and the dark to bring back Dess.

>>714302390
they're the stale ones in the back. Church staff don't rotate the stock properly

There's NO WAY any of you would EVER put your PENIS into a MONSTER, right?

>>714304104
Yeah I'm all for Susie/Kris but all the fanart of Susie with her chin of Kris's head in the world isn't going to change the fact that their relationship has a clear roadbump ahead of them.

Even if Susie miraculously takes the attitude of pic related she's clearly going to have problems with Kris supposedly being on team bad guy and never telling her.

>>714304441
that doesn't change shit because they would still have brothers who get eaten
unless they become sentient when they expire, like winglades being a weapon and a peoples

>>714304209
No no, at least twice. One time you watch them try and fail to take down some monument or advertisement. Then later you watch Queen deal with them without even trying.

>>714300869
redraw them so they don't look like Codename Kids Next Door rejects

>>714304584
that's what I was going for, yeah. I think food can become darkners when they become inedible

>>714304209
technically they do it at the end when they make the giant robot with berdly to fight giga queen

>>714304567
>the fact that their relationship has a clear roadbump ahead of them
That's how love stories work in fiction, anon. If everything is smooth sailing from start to finish, it's just a ship.

>>714304328
That's something that confuses me in-universe as well. Obviously Weird Route Kris hates the SOUL, but why does he get upset when we make choices that he himself would have made? Why does he dislike us when we try to have the same end goals as him, when we just try to make his life better? Couldn't he understand that for some of us, our presence is purely coincidental as far as his life is concerned?

>>714304529
Monsters have no genitals. They reproduce magically like pokemon.

Imagine being Gaster.
You get a (you) countless times in any Deltarune thread without ever posting.

>>714304663
jej

Reminder that the Asgore running over Dess meme is Toriel propaganda.
In fact, it would make more logical sense for Toriel to run over Dess, just think about it, she had a bit too much wine one night, went out for a drive, saw the girl that was corrupting her poor golden boy Asriel and ran her over.

>>714304324
>>714304397
The original gif is a dancing baby 3D animation. Also, the Jesus dancing gif in The Simpsons is has a slightly different dance.

YES! I DID IT!!! I FINALLY BEAT THE FUCKING KNIGHT

>>714304974
Congrats anon! Good job

>>714304974
Good job. Now wack the boss in chapter 4 with it.

>>714304798
Just because we're making decisions he might have made doesn't mean he's actually able to live the life he wants. Our piano playing sucks ass, we don't have an option to drink choccy milk, and he needs to close his eyes just to do stuff like drink tea or write on the window.
Besides that, I don't really think he hates us outside of weird route, he just has a plan going on and doesn't want us blowing it too early.

>"Hmm. Who should I fuck today? Pizzapants? Ice Wolf? Napstablook? Or that annoying dog? Maybe all of them at once?"

>>714304974
Well done, enjoy having the best weapon in the game (thus far)

>>714304974
This ain't reddit, sir

>>714304663
Lmao they really do

>>714304798
>why does he get upset when we make choices that he himself would have made
Because he wants to make those choices himself. Piano scene should've been a big hint. He wants to play the piano, not wait for (You) to awkwardly tell him which key to poke. Imagine if someone was standing behind you and moving your hands for you all day long. He may do the things you yourself wanted to do, but would you enjoy them as much?

>>714304974
Are you also all out of revives and team heals now

femkris supremacy

Ralsei should've been a girl
Harembro btw

>>714300952
oh no she's hot

Noelle has died.

>>714304870
They must have assholes, otherwise they couldn't consume human food without serious issues.

>>714301246
>red eyes
How did Kris inherit Toriel's red eyes if he's adopted?

I think I know Carol's deal now.

For one, it's abundantly clear that the family is deeply religious, and deltarune's predominant religion worships the Angel. The Angel is heavily implied to be us, and we are the light inside the SOUL.
So of course she's okay with whoring her daughter to us. Of course she collects thousands of heart pillows. Of course we are always allowed in her house. We're literally her God. She worships us. That's why her house is always covered in Christmas stuff, it doesn't celebrate Christ, it celebrates the Angel. That's why you find it on top of the tree.

That's why she loves us, and will do anything we want.

>>714305301
I have 1 left

>>714305296
>Because he wants to make those choices himself
Thank you. I can't believe how many people can't understand that simple idea

>>714305470
Snowgrave sounding more and more like a prequel to Silent Hill

>>714302390
If the wafers are blessed they're supposed to be eaten no matter what, I worked with a girl that found one that was completely black when we were cleaning and she immediately ate it

>>714304974
Congrats!
Now do it mantleless

>>714304798
>Obviously Weird Route Kris hates the SOUL, but why does he get upset when we make choices that he himself would have made?
Getting controlled would get annoying even if the soul is a /v/irgin like me who does the same shit I'd do. The dude just gets tired of it even if he needs you for his plan.
> Why does he dislike us when we try to have the same end goals as him, when we just try to make his life better?
He doesn't have the same end goals as you. He has his own agenda outside of averting the prophecy and the roaring. That's why he stops you from opening the bunker, attacking the knight in ch 4, and opening the church closet. Even if you helped him make friends the promise he made takes priority.
>Couldn't he understand that for some of us, our presence is purely coincidental as far as his life is concerned?
He most likely consented to having you possess him and his faction is responsible for discarding your original vessel. He had the birdcage set up in his room before ch1 started and the voice on the phone needs the soul for what they're planning. Kris knows you didn't originally plan to possess him but that doesn't matter to him.

Toriel's massive soles smothering my little face

>>714305470
>Holy shit two does!

>>714305486
There's only one mint left
Darkners screamin all in our ears like we're deaf

>>714305301
Don't you need at least 1 dark candy in your inventory to get the sticker scene at the beginning of chapter 4? Or is it enough if it's in your storage?

>>714303083
While Kris seems to be the main force in moments like these, I feel like he wouldn't get nearly as far without us saying the right things. It's easy to make the chad dialogue options when you're putting those words in someone else's mouth.

>>714305486
You can farm revivemints off mizzles iirc by using the embizzle ACT in ch 4.

>>714305436
Tobias has decreed that monsters do not have buttholes. the homes in hometown were spoils of war

>>714304529
Yep. I only put my dick in humans.

>>714299970
Diagonal Kris is such a mood.

>>714305686
You're a brave man.

>>714303296
good sus

>>714305862
It doesn't imply that they don't have buttholes, just that monster food doesn't give you a need to shit

>>714300952
Disappointed I expected her to be hotter

>>714305545
I feel like people who complain about Kris being a "bad" protagonist are the same people who complained about Undertale "shaming" them.
>The game is trying to explore some theme?
>Outrageous!
>It should play like every other game instead!

>>714304798
You see anon, Kris annoyed by your control over him even if the entire scenario is self induced.

>>714305470
I've seen so many people be either dismissive of the idea that Carol is talking to us, some not even picking up on that interpretation. But between the heart pillow bit and the YOU being specifically red in the text it really would be a big red herring if that isn't what Toby is hinting at.

>>714305953
I want to be hers completely

>>714305668
Next playthrough

>>714305470
It's amazing that people can just flush a half an hour long gameplay sequence demonstrating that Kris and Carol are directly opposing you out of their mind because they saw one word colored #FF0000 and their brain turned off

>>714306001
Berdley doesn't wear pants. Boom. Done. I win. No genitals. Kris will die a virgin.

>>714305470
I mean, that's lovely and all but the implication is that she and Kris is at fault for us being side of Kris right now.

>>714305470
We are going tu fuck everything up to hell and back for deer Oyakodon

>>714303083
It's in weird route chapter 3 or 4 but Susie at one point asks why are you talking without opening your mouth? Combine that with Noelle saying it sometimes sounds like Kris's voice is coming out of a loudspeaker or whatever I'm inclined to believe it's (Us).

>>714305914
This is dumb as fuck, comparing her to that filthy fuck

>>714304974
CONGRATULATIONS!!!

>>714300952
>God I love an ice cold bitch.

>>714306163
Naturally he doesn't need to, as birds cloaca hides in all quite effectively.

>>714306340

>>714306156
>directly opposing you
More like using You but you get it.

>gay furry pixelshit
Go away

>>714306047
I think a lot of people find actual validation in the endless amount of player dicksucking the average game does, but they don't realize that it's dicksucking. So when a game drops that for even a moment, they feel like they've suffered a major offense.

>>714304974
Nobody gave me this many (You)s when I said I beat the knight...

>>714305470
The Player isn't the Angel.

I can't believe I'm actually replaying Chapter 2 just so I could buy a couple of B.ShotBowties. And then I realized I missed a Revival Mint in Kris's room in the mansion. I also apparently missed a couple of armors in Chapter 4, so yay, that's fun.

>but you can save edit
I know, I'm just very autistic about missed content. I haven't even played the Weird Route yet.

>gay furry pixelshit
Based

>>714306156
If they were directly opposing us then we wouldn't be here in the first place. They have a plan and we're a crucial element of it. They need us. They also know we can't be controlled and don't want us screwing up whatever they're doing, but there's a difference between that and actually opposing us.
For all the dog motifs with Kris, that's basically what we are to them. We're on a tight leash because we can't be trusted to go run off on our own, but they still need us around.

>>714306156
Kris is opposing us. That's made very obvious. Carol has the potential to be a mislead.

>>714306434
Show me gay or fur on this image.

>>714306471
I used redditbob reaction image that's why.

>>714303868
I agree halfway there
I mean this post was made in 2022, so if somehow that anon was connected to dev team, the things he posted might have been altered or removed during the production,
like bringing tena to (your)town, or rose, sure they appear in CH4, but its not hard to imagine that they were meant originaly as ending to Ch3
and predicting homage to undyne fight gimmick in ch4 is also uncany
and did we know Ch4 would take place in church back in 2022? I dont think so
that said I am aware you just can throw any shit at wall and some by chance have to stick, and for rest people can make mental gymnastic to somehow connect it to grand plot, like chess pieces allegory have sense in context of Ch1/Ch2 but its non existant in Ch3/Ch4

Was there glowshards in CH3 and 4?

>>714306485
Everything in chapter 4 and well, Undertale in general points to it being the angel.

>Straight human pixelCHAD.

>>714306652
chapter 3 has one I'm pretty sure

>>714306503
Make sure to let Susie eat the moss with you, while you're at it.
As a rule of thumb, buy one of everything.
I think we get more space per chapter, and healing items seem to get replaced easily enough, but equipment gets its uses through crafting, and you never know if the smith will get new recipes.

>>714306709
>Undertale
WROOOOONG!! Play the game again. The Angel is Chara and Asriel. Player Angel is deboonked by this single line.

>>714306395

>>714306652
You can get as many as you can from the gachapon in Chapter 3

>>714303083
>Kris defends Susie on his own against King
>Kris gets visibly upset when Monster Kid shittalks Susie
>Susie Tea heals Kris the most
>Kris pulls Susie closer when you try to poke her with Chibi Kris
>Kris howls to tease Susie when she says he will have to wear animal ears if Ralsei won't do her homework
>the entire diner scene
>Kris sends (You) to protect Susie against the Gerson statue while he finds his way to her on his own, and shields her right on time

Kris adores Susie, but (You) were the driving force to make them best friends.

>>714305149
>>714305296
>>714305682
You know, that's fair. I suppose it would be pretty uncomfortable and irritating to not have the freedom to make my own bodily choices, even if the choices that do get made line up with what I would want anyway.
In a way, it's a message of its own, isn't it? If you play the game trying to help Kris and make his life better, you're more or less acting as the helicopter parent who doesn't let their children do anything because "they know better". Even if what we do for Kris is objectively good for him, not letting him make those decisions and not letting him fuck things up on occasion do him a disservice.
Of course, I'm a random idiot who finds joy in seeing a teenage boy hook up with a teenage purple dragon girl, so what the fuck do I know?

Kris needs to go back to his real family

>>714306815
(Coming!)

>>714306894
They're probably dead.

>>714306652
It's one of the normal ball machine prizes, and not capped in quantity. Don't think there's any in chapter 4 though.

>>714306894
>Kris's mom is leafy
That is horrifying

>>714306894
literally me on the right

>>714306815
>The Angel is Chara and Asriel
And wouldn't you know it, none of them can empty the underground without You. Besides, they're already in the Underground.

>>714306784
>Make sure to let Susie eat the moss with you, while you're at it.
FUCK, and I just beat Spamton. I should just replay the game, I also missed the Bed Inspector Title in Chapter 1. Toby should just let us buy previous Chapter items through Seam at this point.

>>714300952
I literally said out loud
>Fucking ENTER

>>714306634
>like bringing tena to (your)town
Well it was obvious we're gonna bring him to Negrotown, like previous two chapter bosses.
>rose
It's supposed to be Asgore flowers in the trashcan.
>and predicting homage to undyne fight gimmick in ch4 is also uncany
It's just a "reverse Undertale" theory. Note Purple Heart in ch.3
>and did we know Ch4 would take place in church back in 2022? I dont think so
We knew the location for chapter 3, and church was was one of the most expected locations for chapter 4 because of Alvin clearly being up to something in chapter 2 graveyard scene.

>>714300869
are these the only "failed" characters?
Toby was even skeptical of Tenna and thought he'd be annoying or derivative but he's great

>>714306859
All of this would totally hit harder if Kris and Carol's plan didn't hinge on putting your soul inside of Kris.

>>714306485
Anon, there is a prophecy glass for the angel that shows a completely black screen, and are disturbed by how otherwordly it looks. I want you to think, what does your screen reflect when it is dark?
If that does not convince you, also consider the scene in the light world segment where we literally hide under the angel outfit. Symbolism does not get any more blatant than that.

>>714306073
>* (You felt something like ice on your shoulder...)
>* My apologies about just now, Kris.
>* As you know, YOU are welcome here any time.
Carol is addressing Kris, but Carol knows that you are possessing Kris at that moment. Kris knows what their relationship is, she doesn't need to remind them of that, she's going out of her way to stop Kris on their way out of the door and make that statement so that YOU can hear it and understand the situation that you're in.
She is NOT inviting YOU, the SOUL, to come over and snoop around in her house. Carol is a control freak, and you are an unpredictable element in her plan. She is telling you that Kris is under her thumb and that YOU had better know your place. Now YOU know who's in charge here, so don't fuck with her.

>>714306784
I just sell most of the healing items because I'm not a pleb and I generally don't need them
I buy one of every piece of armor though

>>714305349
based

>>714306538
>papyrus in the chat
>but seperate from the knight
what did toby mean by this?

>>714302390
Oh THAT"S what they are.

>>714306552
Technically Kris would be a IRL furry cause he wishes he wasn't human and instead a monster.
Also scalies are still considered as furries.
No gay shit however, just 2 homies being homies

>>714306859
>If you play the game trying to help Kris and make his life better, you're more or less acting as the helicopter parent
Someone here made a good theory that the whole game is a metaphor for parenthood. You have your wishes for what kind of kid you want, but actual kids will discard all your choices to make their own mistakes. I wish I could find it on archive.

>>714305751
One of almost any healing item in either your inventory or storage is enough, basically the only way to get the ancient chocolate scene instead is to start ch4 without using a previous save

>>714302887
https://www.fangamer.com/products/undertale-button-up-shirt
https://www.fangamer.com/products/undertale-skirt

>>714307170
I'll make your point a bit stronger anon. Here's the place holder. Never mind the goddamn doll in chapter 4. Never mind that the fallen (who shares your name) and Asriel are also mirrors for the player.

>>714306894
Toriel is his real mother. She got pregnant by a random human.

>>714307171
I think the anon was reaching that Carol is completely devoted to the Angel due to her religious beliefs but she at the very least definitely seems to like the SOUL. I think she wants us in a tight leash, but is also obsessed with us. Which is really, really hot.

Is there some hint in the game about this looping room in the S rank second board game? I noticed that if I go up twice, then going left won't put me out of the room like usually, but I can't figure out what's the pattern and how am I supposed to figure it out.

>>714300869
I just thought they were meant to be toby's sawtooth and squarewave

>>714307360
I know this is canon because Toriel would definitely get fucked in a dirty alley

>>714307021
No, they aren't. Flowey isn't Asriel and Chara only fully forms itself at the end. The player simply isn't the Angel in Undertale, they don't fulfill any of the prophecy quotas.
>Never saw the surface.
>Never "returned" (Only went once to the Underground)
>Isn't the one who breaks the barrier nor destroys the world.

NOELLE WAS RAPED

>>714307410
Anon, just follow the girl, she will stop when you're taking the wrong route.

>>714307170
But how can I be met with my desire if I'm banished?
I want to be free to walk around town and make friends with everyone.
I want the deer.
I can't have these things if I'm banished.

>>714306156
How does Carol oppose you? You're probably the most important player in the whole scheme. Kris hates you because you're some asshole controlling him most of the time but he knows you are necessary so he begrudgingly puts up with you.

>>714306894

>>714307410
FOLLOW THE
WHITE CLOAK

>>714307410
Go in the direction that Noelle will follow you (and not freeze in place) and you'll progress.

>>714307360
It was (Me) btw. I'm Kris's real dad. No I can't come home I'm still buying chocolate milk!

>>714307170
>I want you to think, what does your screen reflect when it is dark?
Nothing because I have a non-reflective protector on my screen to eliminate glare and keep the screen from being scratched.
But I get what you mean.

>>714303973
getting anally raped like you're destined to be later in prison faggot? Get ready for it, shove a few fingers so it won't hurt as much

>>714307410
It's whether Noelle follows you or not. You have to pick the path she follows you on each time.

What I don't get it what the meaning to that is. Since it seemingly contradicts the idea that Snowgrave Noelle does whatever you tell her to do.

>>714298741
Holy fucking shit, I love Tenna. I love TV.

>>714306485
>The Player isn't the Angel.
Yeah the newborn Titan being a realistic human face that turns into a SAVE point with giant seraphic angel wings definitely didn't mean anything

>>714307170
>I want you to think, what does your screen reflect when it is dark?
Nothing because my screen isn't glossy like PlayerAngelfags. Don't you guys think it's being hidden because Toby doesn't want to reveal it's design earlier?
>>714307352
That's the generic placeholder, retard.

>>714303687
He's a shady guy but he's not a sexy shady guy

>>714298892
it would be really redundant

>>714307170
Yeah and Noelle could also be the angel based on the wings she had in her wardrobe and every other connection she has with angels. This reflection bullshit wouldn't even work for most players. There is literally no concrete proof that the player is the angel.

>>714307490
Getting the good ending and seeing the end credits is what the player is aiming for, even if it means your time in the world is over. I'm not the biggest fan of the player angel theory though.

>>714305470
I was going more on a human Soul sacrifice bullshit by grooming human souls, but this is good

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i1iqhfSf6fs

>>714307473
>Never saw the surface.
You see it every time you boot up the game.
>Never "returned"
Its a requirement to do the pacifist route actually.
>Isn't the one who breaks the barrier nor destroys the world.
The fallen uses your power to destroy the world. Otherwise they're extremely powerless. They even gave a whole speech about how the determination was yours. After pulling at the crying boy's heart strings, the undeground gets emptied.

>>714306894
why do kris' parents also wear asriel's hand-me-downs?

>>714307596
https://deltarune.com/icepalace_glaceir/

>>714299392
Lmao I love this

>>714307673
but men like him when he puts on the mantle

>>714307593
>homosexual fantasies out of thin air
Uh...

Hey friends!
It's a hot day today!
Why don't you... take a dip in the water...?

>>714307473
>Never saw the surface.
You see it in the true ending.
>Never "returned" (Only went once to the Underground)
It's impossible to get the true ending on your first playthrough, you have to return to a completed save.
>Isn't the one who breaks the barrier nor destroys the world.
Your choices are what cause either to happen, and one of your choices in genocide is to actually do it yourself.

>>714307648
Why would the Titans, AKA pure darkness, have anything to do with a being of light?

>>714307707
>Getting the good ending and seeing the end credits is what the player is aiming for, even if it means your time in the world is over.
Not what I want.
Thus, the Angel cannot be (me).

>>714306156
Did you also thought Kris will stab Toriel at the end of chapter 1???
You can't be this dumb to fall for obvious misdirection.
YES it was bad timing that Carol happen to return in time to get the guitar
NO it doesn't mean she work with the knight or plans something sinister.
Asgore is actually the one who interrupted Susie from getting the guitar by informing Carol before going inside. He works with the knight to do something.

Carol is innocent, and her comments about Susie are the same as Catti's. Both of them predict Suselle is forced in the story to create tragedy when Noelle finally breaks over Dess PTSD

>>714307658
Castle town being used as a place holder should've clued you in you fucking dumbass. They could've used anything but no, they used the location named after the player almost like it means something.

>>714307501
>How does Carol oppose you?
I want you to explain to me why you think Kris ripped the SOUL out right before you could read the code to the Shelter

>>714307530
Well, good for you. I'm Susie's real dad btw, she has my hair. We should totally gatecrash their wedding!

>>714299046
Don't spoil the ending
https://files.catbox.moe/v4f7q1.webm

>>714307501
I don't think that Kris hates the soul. He knows well that the soul is working against his and the Knight's plans, but trusts it enough to send it to Susie to keep her safe. At some point he trusts you enough to make the right dialogue choices, but if you step out of line, he will act accordingly, like him biting his hand if you dare say you will never play piano again to Susie.

What I believe is that the soul arrived at the best possible time, Kris was already working with the Knight to create the portals, but you gave him friends in Susie and Ralsei, and are also actively working on repair his friendship with Noelle, so he must now be very conflicted between following the Knight's orders or protecting Susie, especially because he knows that she has to die to save the world.

>>714307841
The strongest light casts the darkest shadow

>>714307596
It's just a Zelda 1 reference I think, there are two areas in that game where you have to follow a specific route to get a better sword

>>714307886
Or it's just because Castle Town is the visual for the first prophecy panel

>>714307703
And what does the SOUL do to Noelle in snowgrave, Anon? It leaves a trace of it inside her. It controls her, slowly turns her into another of our vessels.
>This reflection bullshit wouldn't even work for most players.
Correct, it's not meant to be a confirmation. But it is a hint, and a very clever one.

>>714307321
Oh I thought you could get the letter scene without the ancient sweet. But then it's practically not possible while having played the previous chapters, that's right.
The sticker scene is better anyway.

>>714307748
>You see it every time you boot up the game.
You don't. The sepia intro isn't you actually seeing the surface.
>It's a requirement.
You aren't actually returning to the surface by RESETing, just making so you never left.
>The fallen uses-
Doesn't matter, still not (You). The prophecy is that Angel makes the underground empty, not that they help make the underground empty.

>>714307950
>if you dare say you will never play piano again to Susie.
That only happens in the weird route which he most certainly doesn't trust You with anything. In any case, Kris and Ralsei seem to have the ability to use your soul to track each other down which is how Ralsei always find us.

>>714307897
So we don't go in it. We're needed for their plan but we can also spoil it and they have no idea what we will do so they try to keep us on a tight leash. It's not a black and white thing.

Also I didnt saw it discussed
how the fuck do darkeners know (you)r name?
I mean how is city named after (you)r name you put back during veasel creation
>>714307745
neato

>>714298504
because it's not rape

Toriel looks like THIS?!

>>714307828
>You see it in the true ending.
This is AFTER the prophecy is already fulfilled, retard.
>Your choices are what cause either to happen, and one of your choices in genocide is to actually do it yourself.
Doesn't matter, still not YOU doing it. Thus, you can't be the Angel.

>>714308103
>That only happens in the weird route which he most certainly doesn't trust You with anything
He still prevents you from saying that on Normal route, just not in such extreme way.

>>714307759
Is that implying that you're actually following Noelle then? That she knows the way and will object when you're taking a wrong turn? Wonder what that's supposed to mean.

>>714307978
Or they have nothing to do with each other, dumbass redditor.

>>714308179
You sound like a "actually Chara did genocide" tard.
The events of the game happen entirely based on your choices. You are responsible. You did it. Deal with it.

>>714307858
>it was just a coincidence bro
Come back when you have a serious argument

>>714308154
There's one specific Darkner who knows your name, and he is extremely suspicious little nigger who may be related to the whole egg thing.

A soos I drew

We had an entire session of this in ch4 and we're still questioning it huh?

Susie has to sacrifice herself in the end

>>714308154
It's just the one Rudinn
Don't worry about him :)

I get it now
>FRIEND will possess one of Asgore's flowers in Chapter 5 and turn it into a monochrome goner
>FRIEND inside me
MIKE!!! CANCEL MY MEDS
YOUR BEST FRIEND (INSIDE ME)!!!! HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

>>714308153
>We're needed for their plan but we can also spoil it
Yes, so you do understand how they're opposing us by stopping us from doing that.

blue is sexy

>>714308380
>in the end
I have bad feeling she wont make it past Ch5

>>714308154
The rudinn that says the town's name is implied to be one of the flying aces from the forgotten island / mancountry

>>714307897
Kris isn't Carol.

>>714297624
The jitterbug

>>714308451
Isn't that flying ace in chapter 4's egg room?

>>714301017
it's a reference to this scene btw

https://youtu.be/4lEHpWUOUfw?si=Y7XjY4SsNf0g8rsA&t=60

>>714307950
>so he must now be very conflicted between following the Knight's orders or protecting Susie
I'd say he was always not with Knight's plans, he just had no choice but to follow them. Susie blundering into the Prophecy was a lucky break for him and Ralsei, this is what they were discussing in chapter 1 during Lancer fight.

>>714308057
>implying that snowgrave is actually following the prophecy
you can't use theories as evidence for other theories. it's completely possible that snowgrave will be how we break the prophecy which would make your connection pointless. and no, it's not a clever hint if it makes no sense with what it's trying to do. If the player actually is the angel then that "hint" would literally just be the group getting scared of a dark wall. it wouldn't make any sense unless every player just happened to see their reflection in the screen.

Player Angel in Undertale is so dumb because Toby literally called Asriel the Angel of Death in the art book. For crying out loud, he straight up is the Deltarune's symbol for the Angel in his final form.

gerson/gaster swaptism methinks. just like undyne/alphys swaptism.

>>714308463
Yes, that's correct. Good job!

>>714308173
Toriel actually wears this under her robe. It's canon.

Why do some Deltarune threads stay up while most get deleted?

>>714307508

>>714308154
Ralsei knows about you and it's his town so he probably named it after you.

>>714308280
Fucking retarded Charafag, this isn’t about who did genocide, but who makes the underground go empty. That's Chara. They destroy the world. They're the one who fulfills the prophecy, not you.

>>714308380
>>714308449
If you don't take your hopepill right now I'm gonna turn it into suppository.

>>714298625
>pic
What font is this? I wish to meme.

>found the shelter key
>you were used up
was this about (You) or Kris?

>>714308627
RALSAAAAAAAAAY!

>>714297624
SO HERE'S YOUR HOLIDAYYYYYYY

>>714308380
Luckily, Susan has nothing to do with Susie, so everybody that actually matters is safe.

>>714308696
you can't spell suffering without several letters from her name!

>>714307816
mmmno

>>714298504
Masochists hate when you break kefab

>>714308612
jannie can only delet so many threads before losing determination
its like playing wackemall

>>714300975
Freedom was never for Kris, it was for us.
Spamton knows we're the BIGGEST SHOT around that's actively involved in this world.
He's just rubbing it into Kris what he's gonna get out of this in the process of our wild ride.

>>714308705
https://www.demirramon.com/generators/undertale_text_box_generator

>>714308498
No clue. I think counting that one there are 8 total
Maybe the church just has a deck of cards lying around

>>714308545
The Angel is symbolic. It doesn't have to be just one person or thing. It's a prophecy, it's not a math problem.

>>714308593
No seriously, Carol has the potential to be a mislead. Just because Kris was actively keeping you from discovering the code doesn't mean Carol was.

>>714308627
Why did Kris spread his legs like that? Did he ask Toriel to suck him off?

>>714308801
>wackemall
Not familiar with that game, is it an American thing?

>>714308376
But what if the soul wasn't covered by the convenient angel doll?

>>714308830
>free
You think Toby planned to make Gerson a secret boss all the way back in Undertale

>>714308794
>does will literally just see this and type "husband"

>>714308657
I desperately wanted to avoid pissing off my future wife but the entire thing doesn't go on until you force her bowtie on her head, cmon Toby

>>714308414
That's like saying your mom opposes you as a toddler by keeping a gate in front of the stairs.

>>714308716
jej

I had a dream that Noelle killed the Knight, only to learn that the Knight was Rudy
Then she went Berserk. It was kino

>>714308884
his duck hungers for tom tom to pound

When do we get to fight the castle trio?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JtiorxLmpuA&list=RDJtiorxLmpuA&start_radio=1

>>714308830
If the prophecy is accurate enough to have a picture of Lancer saying toothpaste boy, it should be accurate enough to know exactly who the angel is.

It wouldn't have happened if Kris was a littler nicer to (You).

What the fuck is his fucking problem? I'm just asking not to be put in a fucking CAGE. He got FRIENDS and a wonderful dark town thanks to (YOU). This bitch better NOT complain.

You'll pay for it, cuck.

>>714308990
Susie doesn't want you to be a doormat it's fine to fuck with her in return.

>>714308908
nta
he meant whack a mole

>>714308627
>I was uhhh tricked by a heart character into putting a ring on that deer

>>714308612
Whoever is deleting them has a bias and is only up so many hours of the day. Some strikewitches threads on /a/ last for hours, some get instantly nuked or autosaged, same thing in play here.

>>714308328
A soos?
You droos a soos?
How loos that soos is droosed, with her big older snoos...

>>714308678
You do know you can pick erase right? And that their power to blow up the world belongs entire to You?

>>714308657
>last chapter has a gag where the most powerful armor in the game turns out to be a ribbon and susie begrudgingly agrees to wear it due to how powerful it is
>game makes it a gag that it's the one piece of armor in the entire game to actually change the character's sprite when they wear it

>>714308836
If you want to stick your head in the sand and deny what the story is clearly and obviously laying out for you, be my guest, but I'm not going to waste my time with that

>>714308154
Ralsei is your security blanket and knows everything about you because he's basically your first imaginary friend

Why did Sans rape my mom

>>714308678
>You want to go back to the world you destroyed.
>It was you who pushed everything to its edge.
>It was you who led the world to its destruction.
>But you cannot accept it.
>You think you are above consequences.

>>714309106
I really don't think he did anon

>>714298489
You mean his mom

>>714308990
You don't understand what girls, and especially Susie. like.

>>714309140
Damn....
I should stop phone posting dying me my ol'e....

>>714308836
Its too "on the nose" that Carol must be evil with the direction Toby went. Which mean Carol is 100% innocent in order for twist to happen. Considering that next chapter is Asgore focused, I'm assuming Asgore is working with the knight and informed Carol about "Susie messing with her daughter belonging" which is why Carol seemed like she was interrputing getting the shellter code. We are going to fight Asgore next chapter, not Carol.

>>714308937
Than go call Toby a fucking hack for stating the obvious. You do all of the bullshit that Alvin suggested to Kris like "let the angel's light shine your way".

>>714308990
>>714309093
It's true, there's a reason "sucks to be you" is the only dialogue option that doesn't give her the ick

Are there any working theories on how UT relates to all this with the new chapters?
I don't mean little details and hints crossing over, I mean how the two separate worlds are part of the same greater world, if they even are

>>714308990
>I desperately wanted to avoid pissing off my future wife
That's not how it works, though. Kris is supposed to be on equal terms with her.

>>714309093
Also applies to Noelle. All the best interactions are when you make Kris fuck with her. Forcefield scene was the highlight of Normal route in chapter 2.

>>714308154
Only one Rudinn knows it and he's a disguised goner like clam girl and the bird thing

>>714309134
This. It's so fucking obvious. He's also /v/ only because he couldn't stop us on /vrpg/, so if someone could be bothered they could probably go to the kiwifarms dox and find a list of suspects

>>714309331
No

>>714309065
"The Angel" is open to interpretation in Undertale
"The Angel" in Deltarune refers to a specific entity, but there can still be other characters and things that fulfill its role symbolically

>>714309167
You know that could've been the Knight, right? The phone call says that the church was supposed to be in the evening, but after Susie finds the guitar the fountain is made immediately. By the time you go through it it's night time, but when you go in it's still the afternoon.

>>714309204
>Deletes two files

>>714306634
>>714307128
The smoking gun for me is the amogus. Even if you want to say that all of the other guesses were just circumstantial, you can't explain away that.

>>714309265
Maybe Toby's writing is just going to shit, and Chapter 5 is when the story starts to take a nosedive

>>714308523
You misunderstand. I'm not saying that snowgrave is following the prophecy, only that Noelle being the angel AND the player is within the realm of possibility given the circumstances we've observed. Snowgrave is very clearly a diversion, of the prophecy, and if the purpose of it is to defy the prophecy's final tragedy, then it makes sense why Carol seems so pleased at the end of snowgrave ch4. Whether she is aware of the suffering being inflicted to Noelle for the sake of it is currently unknown.
>it wouldn't make any sense unless every player just happened to see their reflection in the screen.
You can't account for every single player's screen and if they'll get the fully intended effect. Call that sloppy, but I think if people get the point it doesn't matter. There are other hints too, like Spamton correlating heaven with the audience. The Angel being the embodiment of light, and us literally having light powers. Come on.

>>714300952
why is she dressed like shes from the 80s

>>714308830
It was meant to say that Genocide route is about angel of death while pacifist route is making it an actual good angel. It has no meaning toward Deltarune. Toby didn't think about sequel back then

>>714309195
He's gonna rape Kris next! Run nigga run!
>Hey kid, I know you heard us last night
>I bet I can make you sound just like her

>>714308794
Huh I never realized Kris is probably the reason Noelle became the way she is. She associates bullying with the fond memories she had with him. Guess she's more of a masokris.

>>714309265
>Its too "on the nose" that Carol must be evil with the direction Toby went. Which mean Carol is 100% innocent in order for twist to happen.
Why does a twist have to happen?

>Chapter 6
>S Rank scored on the Noelle rape minigame
>No-hit the knights final super saiyan form
>The final extra schizoboss appears

ENTER

The Berdly dates will continue until Kris will stop being a little shit.

>>714309219
It's exactly what he meant
The threads pop up faster than they can get deleted

>>714308990
You're literally missing the point of the whole thing.

>>714309407
>you can't explain away that
I can, it's a fucking coincidence. It was supposed to mean Evil Ralsei, and 2022 was probably the height of that dumb theory.

>>714309357
noelle haters will never accept this

>>714308997
Yes, that's correct. Your parents are opposing force in your life that restrict your freedom and try to limit the decisions you make.

>>714308830
Exactly. That's why it changes from Chara to Asriel depending on the route. However, it clearly isn't the player and you have to be a brainless redditor to think that.

>>714306634
What in the pic references undyne?
Also what's the amogus thing

>>714309167
It is not confirmed that this is Carol.

>>714308678
But they can only do so if you allow it. Ultimately, Chara has no more power than any other character in the game. Hell, you can outright prove that you are above consequences by fucking around with the files to undo the genocide ending. The most powerful being in the Underground is (You). You decide how things end, you decide who lives and dies, you can control time and warp reality by modding the game, you could edit Sans' sprites to make him wear a frilly pink tutu or edit the dialogue to make everyone speak in rhyme if you felt like it.

>>714309167
This is the most obvious red herring in history.
If you really think it's Carol, I can only assume this is the first work of mystery fiction you've ever consumed.

>>714309141
Erase is just giving permission. Still Chara which means only they fulfil the prophecy.

>>714309167
>Kris needs to keep Susie away from the guitar so she doesn't discover the code
>He has an idea, ring Carol and tell her Susie has it, because he knows Carol wouldn't want some delinquent holding her missing daughter's guitar, not because she's necessarily conspiring with him to keep the code hidden
I'm well aware of what's being laid out, but I'm also looking for potential misleads in the story.

>>714309463
There would be no excitement over evil looking grinch homophobic mom to be evil, on the other hand your goody two shoes basedboy father...

>>714309167
Who says this isn't The Knight saying "oh shit, Susie's got the guitar? I'll go open up that fountain at church early to serve as a distraction, good luck."
Because regardless of whether or not this phone call plays out, Carol still comes home earlier than anticipated, as seen in the Weird Route.

>>714309204
I think the reason why people mischaracterize chara and give them so much responsibility is because most people have not actually played genocide and have never read these lines. They just know there's a cool sans fight and chara shows up at the end.

>>714309204
>>It was you who pushed everything to its edge.
>>It was you who led the world to its destruction.
Read these two lines again before coming back at me. Then think about this conversation is about. This is about who slashes the world, not who led the world to be slashed.

>>714309625
>What in the pic references undyne?
Fried fish. Back then people thought we'd be corrupting different characters in each Dark World on the Weird Route, and since Toriel had fire magic in UT, she was supposed to fry Undyne.
>Also what's the amogus thing
"Ralsei is evil" theory.

>>714309070
>He got FRIENDS and a wonderful dark town thanks to (YOU).
With the ability to jump into chapters without a previous save file though, I wonder how true this actually is

>>714302617
Susie, a purple dragon girl. She's a friendless bully who accidentally falls into a Dark World with the MC while looking for chalk in a closet at school. Dark Worlds are fantasy worlds where inanimate objects either come to life or become weapons/armor/items like in an RPG. She gets an axe and becomes a tanky fighter-type, going around the world attacking everyone. She ends up enjoying the Dark Worlds and becomes BFFs with the MC. In the most recent chapter they have a lot of cute scenes together.

Many anons self-insert as the MC and have a crush on her because she's a dumb dorky tomboy with a soft side, but Toby's a fag enabler and the second most important female character has the hots for her.

>>714303745
Quirky RPG with soft danmaku mechanics and catchy music, it makes extensive use of tropes and motifs. Young people specifically like it because of all the the hidden lore, Easter eggs, meta/deconstruction jokes, and high meme/shitpost potential. It feels like a game that could only be made after the birth of the Internet as it often has a webcomic/anime tone and can get pretty edgy.

>>714309070
I'm fine with his choice of cage, I do not like the wagon.

>>714309357
>PlayerAngelfags will ignore all this symbolism because they have glossy, stinky screens.

>>714309917
>I didn't commit murder by pushing that man in front of a train because it was the train that killed him.

>redditors think noelle being specifically given the ability to equip 2 specific swords with unique equip text is "not canon" because you can't see it in the game without party editing yet
lmfao people are so fucking desperate to deny that she's the girl with hope crossed on her heart

>>714309930
>There is a Light inside your soul
Are we the Light?

>>714309831
This is the exact kind of bullshit that resulted in Homestuck crashing and burning.

>>714309983
>Many anons self-insert as the MC
Wrong.
>but Toby's a fag enabler
Also wrong, shut up, you lost.

>>714309664
>But they can only do so if you allow it.
So they're the one who do so, therefore they are the one who fulfills the prophecy. I accept your concession.

>>714308154
You also save over a file at the start called "Kris"
You 100% are not Kris or his soul

>>714310126
FRIENDLY FIRE FRIENDLY FIRE

>>714309591
Noelle is a villain

>>714308908
you cunt just made me realised I have been saying this name wrong for over 10 years, ever since I played L4D2
I though the name was whack 'em all, goddamn barenstein universe

HOPEchads will win

>>714310063
Yet they'll still gleefully speculate about the voice "lost in the code", even though that "shouldn't be canon" either based on the fact it doesn't actually appear anywhere in-game and can only be seen with datamining.
What a bunch of twats.

>>714310140
>press button
>bomb explodes
>I am not responsible because all I did was push a button, it was the bomb that killed all those people
naruhodo

>>714310028
If the conversation is strictly about who will ran over a person, yes, it was the train. This isn’t about whose's fault genocide is. Please use your brain.

>>714309591
Wouldn't Noelle haters WANT her to be the Angel
I mean, the prophecy says we have to banish the angel so wouldn't they want to do that

>>714309760
>Erase is just giving permission.

No, the entire genocide run is giving permission. By the time you get to make that choice, it's just a formality. You already decided that you wanted to kill everyone when you started a genocide run. Turns out that killing everyone means KILLING EVERYONE. The fuck did you think it meant?

>>714309363
>>714309660
>>714309707
>>714309863
The person on the phone says "I'll be right there"
The Knight does not show up at the Holiday house.
Asgore does not show up at the Holiday house, he was already there, and he makes no attempt to take the guitar off Susie or otherwise stop her from looking at the code when it would have been easy for him to do so.
Carol is the one who shows up, unexpectedly coming home from work in the middle of the day just minutes after this call, with no other explanation and in complete contrast to everything we know about her work ethic where she won't leave work for ANY reason.
And the best you can come up with if you think Carol is SOMEHOW not involved in any of this is "it was a coincidence?" Get fucking real.

>>714309576
>at a bare minimum 50% of the "leaks" are directly connected to what we got in chapters 3 and 4, from a post that is from 2022.
>Stuff like Gerson, Praying, Church, Undyne mechanics, the gameshow, the rose, the festival, asgore's importance to chapter 5 all ended up true but its just PURELY COINCIDENCE

I mean, it doesn't matter, but I guess we'll just have to see what happens in the next few years. Either you're right, and it's nothing, or I'm right and this was a fun pic made by someone working on the game

>>714308816
Neat, ty.

These are the most consistently fun threads on /v/, I like you guys

>>714310309
noelle haters need susie to be the girl everyone fights for. the weird route is the doe breaking route/shipers

>>714310293
Are you being purposely obtuse on purpose, giga retard? This is about who "makes the underground go empty", not "who caused the underground to go empty".

>>714309863
But wouldn't that mean the fountain shouldn't show up in snowgrave?

Fair point on the phonecall, but it's possible it simply happens off screen in snowgrave since there is a cut between you making Noelle her bitch and Kris going Saul Goodman on the bathroom bin.

>>714310328
I don't even understand why they're gassing up the fallen like some godlike being when its your power in the end.

>>714309015

>>714305470
oh fuck I didn't make that connection even when Toby heavy handedly makes the soul move a ltieral angel around

>>714310301
>>714310427
Okay so Chara didn't cause the underground to go empty, the knife did so you're still wrong.
And Asriel didn't cause the underground to go empty either, all the monsters walking out did that.

>>714310140
You are the one who chooses how the prophecy is fulfilled. If you do a pacifist run, Asriel is the angel, and if you do a genocide run, Chara is the angel. And if you do a neutral run, then technically Frisk is the angel, because with Asgore's death and the loss of the human souls, the Underground would go empty of hope.

>>714310328
Again, this isn’t a who is responsible for genocide, but who made the underground go empty. You would say Noelle froze Berdly, even if she did at our orders. Please stop jerking off to Chara and read my posts.

The amount of projection on Toriel in this thread is fucking pathetic

>>714309797
The person on the phone is discussing their evil conspiracy with Kris and THEY are the one telling Kris that Susie can't get the guitar.
Kris calls that same person on the phone, and they tell Kris that they'll "be right there" to handle the situation that Kris no longer has under control.
You are not "looking for misleads," you are misreading the situation to avoid an obvious conclusion.

The only misdirect going on with Carol is that you would assume she's The Knight if you didn't connect the dots with Dess. The "twist" is that she isn't The Knight, she's the mastermind behind both The Knight and Kris. That's it.
Toby Fox isn't trying to pull the rug out from under you, please just read his story and try to understand it instead of trying to outsmart it.

>>714310276
It's not even a person trapped in the code to begin with, all the new unused dialogue we got just implies more and more that she's just in a Dark World and it's not some meta shit.
And mind you, if it's Dess, IT CAN'T BE CONCURRENT WITH THE CHAPTERS BECAUSE SHE WAS ALREADY MISSING FOR YEARS BEFORE CHAPTER 1. They're flashbacks to what happened to Dess when she first went missing in the shelter.
I fucking hate the "dess is lost in the code so she can't be the knight" argument. It functions off a wrong assumption about the unused dialogue's meaning that people refuse to let go of.

>>714310126
>Wrong.
Wrong. There wouldn't be nearly as much excitement over shipping Kris with the girls if Kris was a monster. The romantic scenes with Noelle and Susie are complete dogshit and a stain on the game but there wouldn't be nearly as much anger over them if anons didn't feel like they were being cucked. I know this because they were fucking livid at Noelle crushing on Susie in chapter 1 and they never even spoke to each other yet.

>>714310592
>but who made the underground go empty

It depends on which ending the player chooses to bring about, as I said in >>714310558. Basically, you're the one who chooses the Chosen One™.

>>714310558
Exactly. Neither are the player. You understand it.
>>714310540
You're being retarded on purpose. Chara is the one who destroys the world. Asriel breaks the barrier. The Angel is never stated to be the one who guides someone to do these. Get a brain.

>The holiday family is assosiated with christmas
>christmas is about celebrating the birth of Jesus
>We are the angel
>We inserted a part of our soul inside noelle
>she is pregnant and will soon give birth to the saviour of the world

>>714310540
Frisk causes the underground to go empty through both paths. Without Frisk, those who set things into motion never get the chance to do so.
On True Pacifist, it goes empty because they set up the events that lead to the barrier's destruction, and on Genocide, it goes empty because you kill a significant chunk of the population to a point where Chara gains form and power, and then erases everything as a consequence of the path taken.

>>714309463
Gerson even mentions twists being good during his optional boss fight. Granted the twist ought to be something more fun than what you were expecting. But I would find it be more fun if Carol Holiday was on our side.

>>714310358
>Gerson, Praying, Church
Was foreshadowed
>Undyne mechanics
Reverse Undertale. Note that there's also chess theory that is a complete bunk.
>the gameshow
What else do you expect in a TV-based dark world?
>the rose
On fire. It's about Asgore's flowers and Toriel's fire magic.
>the festival, asgore's importance to chapter 5
Pretty much one good guess. I can't remember if newsletters were already out, but they foreshadowed the festival heavily, and we knew that chapters 3-5 are in development right now.

>>714297624
From Toriel’s perspective a maniac slashed her tires and tried to break into her house, and the cop she called went missing. The next night instead of looking for her kid and her kid’s friend she decided to get drunk and have sex with the convenience store guy.

>>714310797
>the baby is (you)

>>714310336
>The person on the phone says "I'll be right there"
Could also mean the church, speed things up. The possibility of it being a multiple people call also exists.
Carol is the easiest and most logical explanation, I will concede that, but there is clearly more going on behind her than meets the eye. Either way, their concern wasn't even the player but Susie having the guitar.

>>714310797
BAM! Noelle's the mother of Auntie Nyan Nyan's child

>>714310063
No you see Toby Fox wrote all of this shit for uhhhh no reason he just makes things up and has assets created for no reason he was going to show Susie bleeding in Chapter 2 for no reason that didn't mean anything he just forgot how monsters work in the story that he wrote

>>714309423
>but I think if people get the point it doesn't matter
I know you are just quoting Gerson here, but in this circumstance it absolutely does matter. If it's supposed to be a hint it should make sense when the answer is revealed. But it if the soul is the angel then the entire scene will make no sense to most players, and it's wrong to assume that they will just know that they were supposed to see their reflection in the screen. It makes much more sense to assume that it's just toby hiding the truth from you since that has already happened multiple times in the story. For example when Kris and Susie play the racing game in chapter 3 but only you can't see the screen, or every time Ralsei makes you watch Susie instead of him and Kris. It's like reverse dramatic irony. I understand why you think we are the angel, but it could just as easily be Noelle with all the connections to angels she has. I'd say there is much more evidence in favor of her being the angel than the soul, but with what we have now there is no way to really deny either possibility.

>>714310105
homestuck crashed and burned because the twists were stupid. So far all of the twists in Deltarune have been satisfyingly written.

>>714310624
WINEriel...

>>714300869
Better music. Imagine if you fought them to something like Castle Funk: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2V_wyZdgVMg
It's a genuine marvel that the music-themed characters had perhaps the most generic music in the entire game.
I can only assume Toby works best when the song has a theme, or some sort of goal in the story.
You know, "add spooky shit to make the player tense, but put some marching drums to convey a sense of duty and comradery, then have the Don't Forget melody flow in and out to remind them what they're fighting for."
Then you get GUARDIAN, which fucking rules: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nP9mB1sVJz4
With the music boys, the theme was "idk music", and that wasn't enough material to make a good song.

>>714297624
She let Sans rail her brapper so hard it reverberated through the whole house and kept Kris awake

>>714310797
>>We are the angel
Retard alert!

>>714310854
we know why she was sad in UT, do you think there will be more backstory to her?

I swear at this point Toby could add a new UNUSED dialogue in Chapter 5 going
>"I wish I never walked into that shelter... It's like I'm in some kind of... Dark World... And the year it was when I walked into the darkness was [202X minus the amount of years Dess has been lost for]..."
And people would just go
>waow Dess has been trapped in the code for so long that she's hallucinating false memories of what happened before she fell into the code in 202X and got shattered across time and space like Ding Gaster we gotta save her from the code of the video game

>>714310925
>I'd say there is much more evidence in favor of her being the angel than the soul, but with what we have now there is no way to really deny either possibility.
Yeah I think this is ultimately our resolution. I think it could go both ways but I think thematically it just makes perfect sense that the angel is the player. Because we ARE a higher power to this world.
As for the glass tapestry, ehhh, even if it's poorly executed it's also just a hidden thing you can easily miss so it's not intended to be the hard confirmation that the player is the angel. One faulty breadcrumb doesn't mean that the trail isn't there. And for what it's worth, I think enough people got the idea even if not everyone could see it.

>>714310624
>projection
Toby was clearly trying to hit close to home with that scene. Well forgive me for having an alcoholic mother, I knew I should've chosen some different option when I was given a choice of family to be born in.

>>714310851
>Note that there's also chess theory that is a complete bunk.
Wrong.

>>714311098
* He is inside the fursuit.

>>714310725
>Exactly. Neither are the player. You understand it.

I know my prophecies, and the thing is, they never explain shit in layman's terms. There's always gotta be a twist, like that "no man of woman born" thing. All the prophecy definitively states about the angel's identity is that they have "seen the surface", which applies equally to Chara (who came from the surface), Frisk (who also came from the surface), the other six humans (don't need to say it again), and Asriel (who was briefly on the surface).

>>714310629
>Kris calls that same person on the phone
That's an assumption.

>The only misdirect going on with Carol is that you would assume she's The Knight if you didn't connect the dots with Dess
No most people jumped on Dess being the knight before Carol, that was the more obvious conclusion to people. In any case Carol being the Knight really doesn't work.

>>714311213
Yeah people just throw the word "projection" around like candy but like, the point of these types of stories is to have the characters be relatable to the audience.

>>714311114
I don't agree with you but till chapter 5 theres literally no way to settle it

>>714311209
I'm really glad retards like you aren't writing this game.

>>714310725
If you're going to absolve the player of the responsibility for their actions then I'll do the same, enough of the meely-mouth "um actchewally" bullshit. Either the player is the angel or the knife is, no middle ground.

>>714311353
Well, there is not an argument here.

>>714311349
Makes sense when you post such a reddit image.

Why did she say this anyway? I thought this part was pretty crazy

>post yfw Onion shows up in the Chapter 5 egg area, confirming his final fate that he was doomed to be forgotten to the highest degree after speaking too much too soon
>he even thanks you for going out of your way to make friends with him if you've been trying to keep up with him since Chapter 1

>>714311416
I am not absolving the player of responsibility, retard. The player is the CAUSE of the world being destroyed, but not the one who DOES it. Those aren't exclusive, but you're too stupid too understand this.

>>714309331
Deltarune is a prequel to Undertale BUT Gaster and (You) perceive it as happening after Undertale

>>714310880
>Could also mean the church
No it fucking couldn't. Follow the fucking dialogue. Use your basic fucking English skills.
>>obj_homealone_kitchen_phone
>... Susie... must not get... guitar...
>... Susie... guitar... code... stop...
>>obj_homealone_dess_phone
>... Susie... guitar...?
>... I'll be... right there...
The primary, immediate concern of the voice on the phone is stopping Susie from getting the guitar. Kris calls them to tell them Susie got the guitar, they acknowledge this, and they say "I'll be right there."
They are not talking about going to the fucking church, because that has absolutely fucking nothing to do with stopping Susie from getting the guitar.
They are talking about going to the Holiday house and stopping Susie from finding the code in the guitar by physically taking it out of her hands.
That is why Carol Holiday immediately leaves her work in the middle of the day, arrives at the house minutes after this call, immediately marches toward Susie, takes the guitar from her, and examines it to make sure the code is still in there before kicking her out of her house.
NOBODY ELSE TOOK ANY ACTION LIKE THIS
THERE IS NO OTHER EXPLANATION FOR WHY CAROL IS THERE
THERE IS NO REASONABLE ALTERNATIVE TO ANYONE BEING THE VOICE ON THE PHONE BUT CAROL

Why is it that everyone recognize themselves in the prophecy but couldn't tell you wtf the angel looks like in that image? You would think it would resemble Noelle since she has a lot of angelic shit attached to her unless those are all red herrings.

>>714311445
Reddit bleddit deddit freddit leddit

The point of the angel symbolism with Noelle is that she's going to get possessed by the angel, us, as the prophecy states clear as day with LOVE finding the girl.

>>714310126
Both games have segments where you have to help gay characters get together. When you go to church in Chapter 4 of Deltarune, there's more gay couples than straight couples: Royal Guards, Monster Kid/Snowy and Noelle/Susie, compared to the Cattenheimers, the only straight couple. You can include halfs of couples, in which Jockington is there but Catti isn't (because she's Wiccan or something), Toriel is there but she's divorced (Asgore is pathetically waiting for her outside), Rudy is there somehow because his (bitch) wife isn't, and I guess Gerson's wife is there but Gerson's dead. That's a lot of broken straight couples. There's also one broken gay couple: Alphys is there, but Undyne isn't, because she's been kidnapped.

The game is super gay. I didn't even name all the gay characters, there's more if you can believe that.

>>714311572
>The shooter is the CAUSE of the bullet hitting him in the face, but not the one that DOES it.
Okay retard

>>714311705
>Noelle/Susie

>>714311645
bro chill it's just a theory. Toby is not a stranger to misdirection and a lot of information and words from the calls are deliberately omitted.
Carol was undoubtedly notified that Susie was at home, it doesn't necessarily mean that she was the voice in the phone the entire time.

>>714311645
Then why does Carol show up on Snowgrave when that call isn't made?

>>714311671
Remember the "unsettling" mural in Waterfall about a monster with a human soul?

>>714311695
why doesn't it say the angel finds the girl?

>>714311572
The player just put the knife in Chara's hand and convinced them that it would be a good idea to destroy everything. The player taught them that nothing matters except the endless cycle of killing to grow stronger, and that even one's most cherished loved ones are a means to that end. The player taught them that they shouldn't let anything hold them back. What the fuck do you think happens when you say no to someone like that? Do you genuinely expect them to take no for an answer?

>>714311741
Unironically yes. Nobody says they died because of your fists, but because of bullet wounds.

>>714311841
Because she was always going to come home early. Or arguably on time, considering Noelle originally freaked out about the possibility of Carol showing up, before dismissing it with the notion that she wouldn't be back for a good while.

>>714311264
>actually Kris called a completely different person to continue talking about the same subject they were talking about earlier and this is presented with exactly the same evil-ass white on black text box effect
Not a serious argument

>>714311062
>s had perhaps the most generic music in the entire game.
The joke is that their music sounds like generic casio keyboard demos, the issue is that it's not funny

>>714311865
This has nothing to do with Chara not being the one to destroy the world, and thus not the one who actually fulfills the prophecy. Non-sequitur.

actually susie will be the angel because dragons and angels both have wings

Didn't you forget something?