Cute.

>>712854389 (OP)
I want to hand feed Carol everything on that tray.

Toriel divorced Asgore after she found out he was the bull of Rudy and Carol relationship

kris zippertits
think about it deltatards

>>712854662
Those xir also has a bologna penis?

>>712854389 (OP)
I can't wait for Asgore to lose it in chapter 5.
Will be cuckino.

question: what happens if I steal Noelle's watch from her in act 2

>>712854662
I didnt read your post but that animal person is pretty sexual, I would say

>>712854926
extra dialogue later if you're on the weird route.
nothing if you're on normal route

>>712855079
this makes me sad delete it.

>>712855079
this makes me hard post more

OH
MY
DELTARUNE

Would Queen comfort PROCEEDED Noelle or would she go Lol and drink

>>712855340

>>712855079
I knew bitches were going to end up liking this shit in the end.

>>712855079
>you will never pet a girl's long, long hair

>>712855340
in a just world queen would throw out the wacky drinky part and go full HAL 9000 on whoever had fucked with noelle so badly, but in all practical terms joke characters don't leave the joke zone especially if they were already downgraded from chapter boss

https://youtu.be/ua1Znu9lNzs
Kris playing piano was actually a pretty depressing scene. Just enjoying his short moment of freedom drinking chocolate milk and doing the one thing he loves.

>>712855079
>The legs
Zamn

deer hag sex

You know, while replaying Chapter 2, I noticed something else...
Noelle was so caught up on reconciling with Kris again during their last section together, that the one thing that made her fail her spelling bee thanks to trauma which was December, Dess full name, on the puzzle that they were doing that she completely felt safer with Kris close to her as she ignores it when in comparison she comments on every puzzle, it makes the entire scene far more impactful on how she relies on Kris and is able to reminisce about it, her last line hits deeper with that because she felt safe and comfortable enough with Kris to revisit such memories, much more intimate.

Anyway, back to Chapter 2 and redoing Spamton since I couldnt screencap the last line.

>>712856348

IT'S

>>712856062

>>712855079
God damn that's hot. Toby has to have a corruption fetish because even if this pivots into a end-game rebellion, we already got off.

>>712856062
>doing the one thing he loves
that's his fucking problem. I would fight a thousand wars to have a cute reindeer childhood friend and he has one and he got fucking ESTRANGED from her? Not on my fucking watch.

Carol looks like she was intentionally designed to be reminiscent of The Grinch.
I don't get how Rudy actually got himself to fuck her twice even.

>Noelle watching Kris fuck her mom, her dinosaur girlfriend, and her zombie sister

cute

>>712856629

>>712856563
>SOUL is projecting to hell and back with no empathy for his vessel
Are we the baddies?

You see this this Noelle?
It's my BIG HUMAN COCK!
It's been in your Sister!
It's been in your Mom!
And now it's your turn!

>>712856062
why is that referring to kris as if he's multiple people?

>>712856629
Cold ice queens love goofy men

>>712856528
>>712856691
Do you really have to be the most annoying person in the room?

>>712856678
I believe Kris and I would have a deeper understanding than what you assume. I'm not dense, I can see when someone feels estranged love for one another. Noelle clearly feels it for Kris. But does Kris to Noelle? Well, I don't know yet. But why don't we make a bet that he is, and i'll set him up with his cute doe gf, and if he doesn't want that, well... It'll at least live on in the fanart.

>>712856690
Oh no!

>>712856669
This unironically made my fight or flight response activate

>>712855079
incredibly erotic for no reason and there's nothing sexual in this image.
why am i like this

>>712856969
you're growing up

>>712855079
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=11rWSdkHRro

>>712854662
This isn't Asriel.

>>712856828
lol

>>712855340
Queen's whole deal is wanting the best for Noelle and trying to be a more lax motherly figure to her

>>712856062
Kris, buddy, I know you hate me but trust me bro, I have only your best interest in my mind. I will make you fuck the Barney, swear upon my soul. You just have to not be an ass for a moment, ok?

Kris is gonna blow his brains out at the end of the pacifist route because nobody actually loves him and everyone cucks him and he's a weird loner chudcel that can't have sex
(All the signs pointing to Toriel, Susie, Noelle, Ralsei, etc liking him are lies and they're just saying it so he feels better but he knows the truth)
Weird route is the only objectively correct route because we force Kris to do as nature intended, take what is his and not wait around for permission and approval from people that don't care if he lives or dies

>every artist is giving Carol blue nipples and asshole

>>712856062
The fact that the first thing he does the second he's free is just go drink chocolate milk is kinda depressing, it's a stark reminder that he's just a kid

>>712856903
to be fair his room's on the second floor unless you're a europoor i guess, but that's still not that high up

how much more trauma are we going to have to see these kids go through before the end
i know ch5 seems to be prime time for crashouts, but what else can be done to them as well?

>>712856828
Ironic

>guys... what if... like... the secret route... was actually.. like... the canon route...
>so fvkn ebin

>>712856690
BIG HUMAN COCK (4 inches)

>>712856459
nobody cares fuck off

>>712856667
No, Nothing Is Wrong, Everything Is Ok
Look, I'm Smiling, Good Luck Anon

Absolutely insane that Tobert made Noelle be into it.
I expect
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TO97b25OrWM
AMVs by the time chapter 5 comes out.

>>712856969
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dacryphilia

>>712857112
i'm pretty sure the colour of your lips is often the same as other parts of your body like nipples

>how can noelle be projecting dess onto susie if susie isn't like dess?
that's why it's called PROJECTION!

>>712856946
>HE WAS USED UP
Even under the generous assumption we don't kill Kris at some point, I'm not sure the Noelle he loves is the assertive masochistic mage we're creating there, especially since he only feel dread during what pass as "romantic moments".

>>712856678
>Noelle is a natural born masochist
>Kris is a natural born sadist
Just fucking trust us on this Kris, we're setting you up with the deal of a lifetime.

How do Gerson and the Knight compare to Undertale characters? Why are Deltarune characters so much weaker than Undertale characters?

>>712857167
This but unironically

>>712855458
Side profile Tenna never gets old.

>>712855340
>>712855528
>>712857050
This made me realize.
We're 100% getting a real KILLER QUEEN fight in Weird Route.
We literally skip her entirely in Chapter 2's Weird Route. She's still in Castle Town though. When we go through with our plan and turn Noelle into another Angel or our new Host or whatever, Queen's going to find out and go absolutely ballistic on our asses.

Let's not forget, Queen fucking WON. She beat the Fun Gang. Story only went on cause she found out her plan was retarded finally.

>>712857230
Oh no yeah I'm not proposing snowgrave. That shit sucks. I'm a believer of aborted snowgrave though. I'm all in on the bet that it's going to be the path to get everyone what they want.

>>712857029
What does she want?

>>712856956
>artist doesn't continue this comic
Fuuuuuck

>>712856459
Anyway, here it is.
Feel free to do whatever with this.

>shippers see Noele/Susie UwU cuute yuri
>what actually Noelle see when Susie plays guitar
The fact that Noelle didn't mind that Susie suck at guitar is the biggest creepy hint. She's mentally unstable. Berdly warned the player about it with his backstory on how Noelle coudn't spell December and that caused Berdly to win and think that he's the smartest.

tenna is made for tender, hand-holding gentle sex

>>712857317
Woah anon, that's a really cool idea but it would take screentime away from Toby's wattpad lesbian fanfic so it ain't happening

>>712857361
you to stop spamming this every thread

>>712856969
>there's nothing sexual in this image
It's literally an after-rape image where Noelle's legs are twitching from the feeling of a fresh load of human sperm racing towards her womb.

>>712857029
Silent Hill's music truly does work with current Deltarune developments

>>712857208
>>712857112
I mean, on one hand, it can be just lipstick. On the other hand, blue lips are a symptom of hypothermia, and there is something wrong with her in that regard, she emanates cold. But, then again, blue nips and anus are sexy
Almost wrote they're "hot", but that's a wrong word here

>>712857361
I'm souling it

Why does he keep on mogging Post Modernists who can't accept that Tropes and Cliches are the backbones of the human soul?

>>712855079
>Kriselle vibe vs Krusie vibe
This is why this ship is numero uno right now

>>712856459
the canon romance

>>712857105
>All the signs pointing to Toriel, Susie, Noelle, Ralsei, etc liking him are lies and they're just saying it so he feels better but he knows the truth
get off the internet, kris

>>712857398
noelle was much younger during the spelling bee, and the death was a more recent memory

>>712857398
I don't disagree but let's try to leave this shit in the last thread and try to have a normal discussion instead.

>>712857195
We don't know for sure yet. The thing we put into Noelle may be what said Thank You there, not Noelle herself.

>>712857420
Weird Route has no lesbian fanfic to it. We're explicitly destroying that in Weird Route.

>>712857504
Shoo, falseflagging nigger.

>>712856669

how do I get a mind-broken deer gf?

>>712857445
Yeah, I'm coping but I kind of hope he does some track down the line that's inspired by Yamaoka's work.

>>712857105
>he's a weird loner chudcel that can't have sex
Stop projecting anon

>>712857398
That's why we got to fix her with human cock

>>712857240
anon, kris is a natural born puppygirl
and good puppies don't bite

If you dont buck break her, then the bad guys will

>>712857370
I told you nobody cares, fuck off

>>712857136
We probably gonna visit Susie home in the apartments. Going to be another Krusie kino

>>712857361
i do like the way the hairstyle makes her heart-shaped

>>712856459
>>712857370
Really cool findings. It's funny, on the game's surface it's all Susie and Noelle, but the more you look into the details, into the little things Toby put an effort to hide yet higlight, you can tell it's actually all about Kris and Noelle. And Susie? She's there to break them free from their doom.

>>712857504
Krerdly Vibe >>> Kriselle/Krusie

>>712857136
let's see here...
>rudy dies
>noelle finds out dess is the knight and her mom's working with her to open up fountains
>susie finds out everyone's fucking lying to her
>asgore burns his goddamn store with him in it and dies trying to prove something kris already knows
>ralsei realises there really is no way of averting the worst part of the prophecy

>>712857679
That would be amazing

>>712857709
>And Susie? She's there to break them free from their doom.
fuck off toby

>>712857361
Can you draw (Her) grinding her crotch on the cage to try and entice Kris?

>>712857676
I care, I love it when people find small details in older chapters of a game that are recontextualized with a new chapter.

>>712855079
only the most profoundly female-brained gooners could draw something like this

>>712857167
Thats what youtube theories say.
>normal route is Gaster trying to fuck with prophecy
>Weird route is the chess rival of Gaster trying to force the prophecy and make Noelle into the angel of death

>>712857272
Deltarune Gerson is essentially a peek at what Undertale Gerson was like in his prime, so stronger than every Monster besides Undertale Asgore. As for the Knight, no idea, but I have a feeling that Toby is going to rent Asgore out to job to the Knight in chapter 5.

>>712857713
Kerdly is retarded because Berdly wants the harem ending

>>712854389 (OP)
Ella Klein?

>>712857679
>kris gives susie the kris award if susie gave him the susie award
imagine

>>712856698
I'm a goofy man, where's my ice queen?

>>712857713
Krerdly is based and they both take turns just like in one of those Japanese RPGs

>>712857842
Snowgrave is the "forbidden path" it's the most violent way of rejecting the prophecy that just ends up being way worse

>>712857398
>Noelle fell for Susie because she is scary
>but Kris used to scare her as a kid
>but then she learned that Susie is actually nice
>so she began to see Dess in her
>but real Susie is a lot more like real Kris
>but Kris himself was influenced by Dess
Dumb fucking doe

>>712857826
And we fucking love it.

>>712857729
If Asgore kills himself via self-immolation I wonder if Toby'd have the balls to have Sans joke about it

>>712857842
>normal route has followed the prophecy with no deviation
>weird route has already deviated from the prophecy
>ralsei has dialogue in the weird route about "the alternative being worse"
youtubers are retards who still think woody is coming in chapter 5

>>712857895
You're a goofy chud

>>712857713
It's funny how Kerdlyfags were really invested in that "breeze under wings" phrase and it turned out a complete joke, not even a proper scene.

>>712856459
I didn't even notice at first, holy shit
People get so overwhelmed by everything else, that it's easy to slip by and suddenly Berdly exposition makes a lot more sense.

>be susie
>last 3 days have been an emotional rollercoaster
>really not looking forward to going home
>your new best friend's going through it too
>and you're both worried about toriel
>maybe you could sleep over again?
>beats both of you being miserable all night
>get there, turns out toriel is fine
>the sweet kindergarten teacher went on a massive bender, got shitfaced and hooked up with the convenience store guy
>how long has she known him, a week?
>your bestie looks ready to commit murder-suicide
>decide you've had enough family drama for one day and take your chances with the park bench instead

>>712857136
Is this supposed to be about Toriel's image shattering as Susie see her being a drunken whore lmao

>>712854389 (OP)
Wanna know how this is gonna end?
>You play thru this shit all the way to the end.
>Flowey pops up.
>Flowey tells you that no matter what reality you escape to, or what game, you cant save him.
>You cant get the happy ending you want no matter what you do or what you change.
>You some how fight fate and win.
>Good ending granted.

Also
>Toby see's how popular Toriel is as a mom.
>Destroys her character by being a alcoholic.
>It ends up creating a deer hag fandom instead.

>>712857986
>normal route has followed the prophecy with no deviation
Are you retarded? Normal route follows Gerson's interpretation instead. It's Weird Route that is going to put prophecy back on rails.

>>712857842
>the chess rival of Gaster
Youtubers are so fucking stupid god damn

>let's give on of the best song to a secret useless shitpost fight https://youtu.be/jsXXKQ_nl30?feature=shared
TOBYYYYYYY

what changes if I let Burghley rip off the wire and fuck up his arm? Is it just one chapter of him being in the hospital

>>712854389 (OP)
>No crackers with heart-shaped cheese on the tray
Not canon

who the fuck is dess

Having to kill Tenna in violent snowgrave is actually going to affect me more than the Noelle shit.

>>712858093
>a massive bender, got shitfaced
for god's sake man, she drank some wine.

>>712858271
dess nutz

>>712854389 (OP)
Last thread reached 750 posts. Damn. We are still good.

>>712856459
Is this Toby's way to say that Kris could help Noelle heal?

>>712857863
Something Is Better Than Nothing
Beggars Can't Be Choosers

>>712857921
Turns In What, Anon
TURNS IN WHAT?

>>712858035
Its Not A Joke. Berdly Said It Truthfully
Not Because He Thought Would Be A "Funny" Thing To Say

>>712858282
Being shitfaced and on the floor is not "just one drink"

>>712858271
>he doesn't know

>>712858153
Give an example of a single deviation from the prophecy so far.
Oh? What was that? You can't?
But "the queen's chariot is unstoppable" didn't happen in snowgrave?

Sounds like you want to cry about it.

>>712858272
you don't even kill tenna
the knight does
you simply can't repair him afterwards

>>712856691
He might fucking be
2 niggas still hasn't been patched despite multiple updates

>>712858271
Roadkill

>>712858272
It's about time you get a new TV anyway.

>>712858282
>drunk enough to be rolling around the floor with a stranger in front of her kid and his friend
Anon, that's not just a little wine.
Also remember that Kris had been missing all day and that this was a day after her tires had been slashed

>>712854389 (OP)
>if you want to eat the tray do it outside
Was it autism?

>>712858417
Yeah but your actions lead to his death.

>>712857550
This is gonna be the finale boss. We got Knight in chapter 3 and Titan in chapter 4. I'm assuming Asgore in chapter 5. Angel Noelle in chapter 6 and finale with "chess players" - Chara on normal route in chapter 7 and Gaster in Snowgrave route chapter 7

>>712858003
>He really can kill my disgrace of a daughter...!

>>712856062
no. now put on the maid dress, put on the maid dress!

>>712858312
KEK

>>712858364
SEX ANON
THEY TAKE TURNS FUCKING EACH OTHER ANON

This is the exact moment Susie's heart shattered.

>>712858447
I WILL NEVER FORGIVE DESS

Who fucked Dess?

>>712857709
Krusie mogs Kriselle hard but also
>Deltarune is a story about breaking a curse

>>712858453
she did let him have it though, that counts for something

>>712858434
if this pays off just cause someone noticed the bug I will have a sendible chuckle

>Everyone is starting to get traumatized.
>Some are even witnessing PTSDs.
>(You) have the power of life or death over them; as long as they listen wisely, we’ll all be happy.
>Never enjoyed that much such a shitshow.
Why is this route so good?

>>712858447
The fact that Kris doesn't give a single fuck about this makes it several times worse

>>712858271
somebody that you used to know

>>712857752
We suppose to see the chapter 2 gift in Susie's room so Kris himself will most likely see it

>>712858364
Queen Is That You?

>>712858559
Asreil obviously.

>>712858561
Shut the fuck up already, retard. It isn't a contest.
Do you feel threatened or something?

I'm actually starting to believe the theory that the character we make at the beginning is our actual body and our soul somehow ended up in Kris
In chapter 4 we see that Kris is completely fine and can move normally without the soul

>>712858559
Azzy and Dess are femenine male and tomboy female lovers

>>712858538
SUSIE, SHE'S NOT LESBIAN! SHE'S STRAIGHT AND A GROOMER! GRAB KRIS AND RUN AWAY!

>>712858557
>in chapter 5 you'll learn that seeing who she thought was a saint-like mother figure until now shitfaced drunk reminded her of her own alcoholic parents
All in on misery-kino-coin

>>712858486
>kris is yellow tinged in the lightworld
>all wokebrained tards make him brown

hes not even white what the fuck are you doing?

>>712858594
Because you're a sociopath who taste power.

>"Mike"'s theme has both Real Boy! leimotif and Freedom leitmotif in the two songs they have
What did Toby meant by this?
https://youtu.be/r-DvoCTarMQ?feature=shared Real Boy! leitmotif start at 1:06
https://youtu.be/r-DvoCTarMQ?feature=shared
FREEDOM leitmotif start at 1:30
https://youtu.be/jsXXKQ_nl30?feature=shared

>>712857272
No determination. Everyone is cucked in Gaster's self-deterministic prophecy unlike in Undertale where the cast could shape the fate of the world.

>>712858610
Why would Kris care about a traitor?

>>712855079
Noelle thanks you just like all women do after a hard pounding

Kricember agenda is... inevitable.

>>712857136
The plot took a surprisingly trad turn when we saw Whoriel

>>712857029
Damn, we look like THAT?

When do I get to kill that DAMN SKELETON?

>>712858739
Tenna did nothing wrong
Fuck Kris

>>712857398
>suselle instrument interactions: noelle creepily compliments susie's shitty strumming because she's projecting dess onto susie
>krusie instrument interactions: susie tells kris her tragic piano backstory, then (You) can make kris say the he'll either play again some day or only play if susie learns how (or piss him off by trying to make him say he'll never play again)

>>712858272
then don't do it retard

>>712854389 (OP)
So, was woody theory correct?

>>712858706
Come on, I know we like to hate her, but I don't think Alphys drinks as well.

>>712858780
Asriel though?

>>712858729
It means Toby is having a gaff at (You)

>>712858557
i think her calling susie honey was worse
telling her to sleep in asriel's bed was just twisting the knife

>The 2nd voice in the Intro
>W.D. Gaster
>The Vessel
>The Shadow Crystals
>The Eggs
>The Knight's confirmed identity
>Dess's status
>Undyne's status
>What did Asgore do to get kicked off the police force/why is Toriel so mad at him
>Asgore's Black Shard
>FRIEND
>The Bunker
>The road blocked by police tape
>The song coming from the sea
>Constant imagery of waves and tides
>The true/final prophecy
>The red dot in Weird!Noelle
>Carol's fixation on [HeartShapedObjects]
>Kris without the SOUL
>The Titans
>The Angel
>Ralsei's Light World object
>Goners
>Sword Route & Kris's extra damage on Tenna
>Slain/Purified counter
>Swoon
>Kris getting knighted
>Kris and Ralsei hiding things from Susie
>"Enjoying the Youthful Days"
>Kris in Art Therapy
>8-Bit Kris still roaming around
>Blank textbox & rain stopping on Weird Route
>Pink and Yellow imagery
>Extra Kris in the Holiday mansion
>Flowey motif in bitroots and roots songs
>ERAM
>Kris's implied intrusive thoughts
>Onionsan disappearance
>Toby's fever dream in general

>Shipfags think all of this combined is less interesting than "who does Kris fuck"

What if everyone learns the truth and forgives Asgore but he ends up in coma after Chapter 5?

>>712858815
I have to see it through.

ralsei buttfucking minigame when
here's the music
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-F4gG7rXw1s

>>712857842
Snowgrave is clearly not the prophecy as implied by Ralsei and Spamton.

>>712858808
>or piss him off by trying to make him say he'll never play again
And he won't let you do it either.

>>712855079
okay that makes me hard

>>712858739
Look Tenna did as much as he could, even fighting the fun gang directly to stall for even longer. It's just yknow, Susie has a way with words...

COMING straight from YOUR house
COMING straight from YOOOUR house
COMING
HE'S THE ONE
COMING

>>712856062
No fuck him. He tried too hard to undermine my control. You know who I feel depressed about? About Old man Gerson, now that's a hero.

>>712858901
Duh. Aren't you curious about who wins the Susiebowl?

>>712858550
How So? Berdly Has A Cloaca
And Kris Has Schrodinger's Sex-Organ
50% Chance They Cant Actually FUCK Him

>>712858634
Nah

>>712857125
>chapter 6 ending, kris dies
>choccy boy
>what have you done to my little choccy milk boy?

>>712858816
What do you mean? Didn't you play the chapter?

>>712857317
>When we go through with our plan and turn Noelle into another Angel or our new Host or whatever, Queen's going to find out and go absolutely ballistic on our asses.
People said the same thing about Catti.

>>712858901
You aren't understand shipping. It's not a logical puzzle like all the stuff you listed. It's an illogical, emotional, but very human thing.

>>712858557

>>712856062
>drank chocolate milk without me
>beats my ass with stick

there can be no forgiveness for such acts

>>712858947
this mother fucker straight glooby

>>712858739
This shit still barely makes sense to me, was his meltdown part of the plan or did he just go "fuck Kris' deal, after this ends i'll end up rotting in a dumpster the second Toriel throws me out either way"

>>712854662
I've been thinking about zippertit kris since day one and I would impregnate him

>>712858282
You underestimate how little wine white women need to get shit faced (which is what toriel basically is)

>>712859065
EXCUSE YOU??? He is NEVER glooby!!!

>>712858727
But I didn't really enjoy the genocide run of Undertale at the same time...

>>712859058
I yiiked to this

>>712858901

>>712858906
My favorite kind of angst is when a vulnerable person is rejected by everyone they know for a false reason and they all only realize their mistake when the person has been mortally wounded or something.

>>712858271
Noelle's older sister who is implied to have gone missing when she was a kid.

>>712857986
Pretty sure the weird route weakens the influence of Susie which is the wild card that can deny the prophecy. Kris turning Noelle into a robot who no longer care for Dess or Susie is literally making "LOVE WILL FIND ITS WAY TO THE GIRL" love being LEVEL OF VIOLENCE

>>712859076
I don't think Board 3 and Tenna going crazy was part of the plan, no.

>>712855079
Stop lewding reindeers holy fuck.

>>712859061
Don't make me root for Sans

>>712859152
There is a difference between being mindlessly evil and the pervasive way you're breaking Kris and Noelle.

>>712858557
snoozie was the same name i called my old childhood cat, Susie

>>712859135
toriel has a history as a party animal, as confirmed by rudy
she probably has at least some tolerance, which makes her getting plastered even worse

is rape still a thing

Reminder that people who push Kris x Berdly do so because they want Susie x Noelle to happen.

>>712859076
I think it's more of the former. on the second mantle game in the Tropic of Love Tenna is talking to himself asking for Kris to smile, laugh, or just generally give some sort of sign of approval. Genuinely just couldn't take it anymore

>>712857272
Gerson beats every monster up to Asgore, Knight beats everything up to Omega Flowey. Nothing in Deltarune really compares to Flowey/Asriel, and the humans.

>>712858093
Would she actually sleep with Kris in one bed if Sans didn't ruind the mood?

>>712857317
i for one welcome our new macintosh-powered overlord

>>712858271
non-canon ARG character that anons are autistically obsessed with cramming into gaymetheories

>>712859010
How does this scene tie into Deltarune?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S1LKngBaIW4

>>712858901
People are fascinated with shipping since they lack true love in their life.

Susie BIG

>>712858901
I STILL THINK HOMETOWN IS PURE EVIIIIIIILLLLL

ending will be a lesbo polycule!

>>712859149
shut up and take your clothes off

what do you think it happened?
i believe he is taking part in knight's plan and is well aware of kris separate soul

>>712859065
It's time to terminate your contract, anon.

>>712858610
Kris doesn't seem to give a fuck about a lot of things, he probably doesn't emote a lot while possessed by the soul. In fact, I think he only emotes when he removed the soul or when he's walking around without it.

>>712859061
Why isn't it both of them raping each other?

>>712857370
>>712856459
This level of detail put on between Noelle and Kris doesn't make any goddamn sense when you compare to Noelle forcing Susie to play her dead sister's guitar
I don't fucking get Toby at all, man

>>712858184
The schizo prediction of Toby included two people playing chess in chapter 7. Theres also chess piece representing each chapter

>>712858093
>take your chances with the park bench instead
i was gonna say "it'd be tragic if she actually did this instead of just going to castle town" but then i realized, the school's probably locked, huh?
suffering is mandatory

>>712858271
Schizoboss to end all schizobosses. Literally.

>>712859262
I just realized Queen would be my favorite character if she looked like this. I think it's shit taste, because ultimately her alien ass head shape is funny, but man..

>>712859175
You're relying on a specific interpretation of the text which isn't reflected in the game (LV doesn't exist in deltarune).
As opposed to multiple characters essentially saying outright "you are not on the prophecy path" when you do snowgrave

>>712856969
you're so touch deprived that the mere depiction of person to person contact, even in a less than consensual context, is enough to get you going because you no longer want sex, you just want to be held, and kris brushing noelle's hair fits that perfectly

>>712859056
Yeah, people really don't want to accept that outside of the main crew and the villain of the hour the other characters get fucking shafted

>>712859240
>Lying

>>712859064
tired of his shit doing weird route just fuck with him

>>712858557
>>712858879
Can you guys explain to me why her suggesting to sleep in Asriel's bed, or calling her a generic nickname for one of your kids, was supposed to be so bad?
Don't get me wrong- seeing Toriel drunk and partying, never having called Kris, after they'd thought she was in danger was obviously a shattering experience for Susie. But I don't get the issue with those particular details. She already let Susie wear Asriel's clothes.

>>712858901
its all interesting but lets be real here
>obvious theories splurged during the first few days
>genuine schizo theories take time to come up with for the insane mental connections to form
in the meantime its fun to imagine kris snuggling with the doe or the dino

I think that the end of the prophecy says that ralsei has to die

>>712858271
ask Asgore

>>712857317
>Queen's going to find out and go absolutely ballistic on our asses.
Given her relation with King and Lancer, I fully expect a family style beat down.
No way will those three live to see the end in your bullshit journey of murder fucking the world.

>>712858271

>>712859341
Trust the dog.

>>712859331
No he genuinely hates Tenna or just sees him as a disposable tool

>>712858901
were things always this bad? you guys had to wait about 4 years with even less content right? how did you guys even survive?

>>712858901
You realize people can be interested in more than one topic at once, right?

>>712859373
She can still be your favorite character, just headcanon a big flowing mane of white fiber-optic hair under the funny xenomorph head.

>>712859181
lewd the whole deer family. go full /k/

>>712859239
the last rape particles on earth eith disappear in the next 50 years

>>712859427
>>712859435
Stop

>>712859427
>>712859435
it happened again...

>>712859435
>reindeer resisting arrest

asgore did nothing wrong

>>712858271
*glass shatter noises*

>>712858093
>Gerson's still got her back

>>712859321
He got too obsessed with the December case and couldn't perform his normal duties anymore like directing traffic. He still has a conspiracy-style investigation board in his basement. Carol has one in her bedroom too so they might be collaborating on it. I think that's why Toriel seems to not like Carol, avoiding using her name at church-- Toriel thinks Carol enables and feeds Asgore's obsession that destroyed his life and marriage.

>>712859262
Order Windows today!

>>712859331
we know kris can emote somewhat, and choose the tone of his voice
iirc susie comments on kris smiling depending on your post spamton choice, and will say ralsei or noelle in a confused tone if you pick one of them when susie asks who kris wants to take to the festival

>>712857317
The queen already lost when we were weaker, she wouldn't be capable of stopping Kris even if she wanted to.
Susie is the only person who could plausibly stop snowgrave. I fully expect her to be the final boss of snowgrave and then to pull a final gambit of opening fountains to summon titans to stop us

>>712859298
It is

>>712859275
surprisingly well for susie talking down kris

>>712856062

>>712858729
Mike will be the Chapter 0 Schitzo and Krill will kill him for it.

>>712859347
>The schizo prediction of Toby
the what

>>712859395
I think it's just more her overall behavior than anything she said, though Snoozie is kind of damning because she clearly doesn't remember Susie's actual name.

>>712859240
>Reminder that people who push Kris x Berdly do so because they want Susie x Noelle to happen.
I just think Berdly is the closest thing to an ugly bastard option so it would be the funniest outcome

>>712859469
Thins got really unhinged during the homestretch, theory-wise. Personally I did two successful divinations through shitposts and then release date got revealed to me in a dream.

>>712859560
AND THAT'S THE BOTTOM LINE, BECAUSE ASGORE SAID SO

>>712856497
source

do you get to add more people to the homebase in 3 and 4?

>>712857676
imagine being this pissy

>>712858557
I think Susie just surprised she isn't abducted. Kris actually more embarassed because he would only ever see Toriel have fun with Asgore, and now theres no Asgore, no Asriel and some fat dude is drinking with your mom. I think that the message wanted to conver

(i don't think Sans is an asshole or Toriel is cheating on anyone, hes probably there because he sensed the Knight as well, i dont think Toby wants to shit on Sans or Toriel)

>If you tell Susie that you'll go to the festival with Noelle Kris says it in a confused and forced tone
Kriselle fags grasping at nothing that isn't snowgrave rape

>>712857368
What? But he said he would in the comments...

>>712858901
Does "who was on the other end of Spamton's phone" count, or has that been narrowed down?

>>712854389 (OP)
Is she banging the man who killed her daughter?

Rape ralsei
NOW

>>712859395
susie seems to have a thing about having her own room, it's one thing if kris invited her in, but another thing entirely when toriel tells her to without kris' input
snoozie/ honey is her just being so wasted she can't even remember susie's name despite her spending the previous night and morning over

A lot of people point out to Undertale for reference as if Deltarune's writing didn't already blow Undertale out of the water multiple times and the story isn't even close to finished.

Doe pussy

>>712859076
Kris does half damage to Tenna because they're trying to sandbag the fight and buy time for the Knight. If you do Sword Route though they do triple damage because they're pissed that Tenna fucked up and let (You) know that they were the one who masterminded Chapter 3, not the Knight.

The Knight isn't even in the Dark World yet.

>>712859363
would sleep in the dark world even work? if eating doesn't make you feel full, would sleeping make you feel refreshed after? or like nothing happened?

>>712858272
Just recruit everyone. You don't need to kill everyone in Snowgrave.

>>712857842
>chess rival of Gaster
Are we Killer 7 now?

>>712859467
>not transparent
not canon

>>712858901
>no mention of all the stuff involving the ocean and waves

>think of Noelle
>"Thank You"
I don't get it, was she thanking me? About what? And how would she know I was thinking of her?

>>712859807
imagine the smell

>>712859564
thats actually very realistic, i didnt see it that way til now, didnt give much importance the newspapers thing

>>712855079
>petting the girl you just raped while you cry on her
why is kris like this

Is noelle genuinely this popular everywhere or are we just in a bubble?

>>712857132
No way that kid was trying to kill himself
If anything he was trying to jump to Susie who came back to shut up the drunken sots downstairs who was standing with her back to the house, alone and in the rain.

deltarune chapters 3+4 was more or less ignored by youtubers and streamers. was this because
(a) the games have declined in popularity because toby took two long
(b) the fanbase is annoying and not worth dealing with
(c) the switch 2 launch overshadowed them
(d) they're all going to start making videos on it any day now
(e) this chapter had no breakout meme character

>>712859848
I think Violent Snowgrave is more interesting.

>>712858934
Why is that?

>>712859373
I thought her head was supposed to reference the original iMac back when late 90s/early 00s transparent plastic was all the rage, but I guess she was a laptop instead.

>>712859331
Kris does a lot of things without our input, even if you don't do the mad choices
>Ch1 saves Susie with his shield
>Ch2 couch talk
>Ch3 telling Susie he isn't a dream
>Ch4 trying to say he will never play again
And a lot more. They're just small little things but he is actively trying to influence the world while controlled by (You)

>>712859871
>the shapeless masses
Do we tell him?

>>712859785
It will always be inferior if toby ditches the whole pacifism thing IMAO, I fucking loved that and it "nothing matters" pales in comparison to "everything matters"

>>712859668
All these 'Asgore runs over Dess' shitposts caused me to dream of an entire scene where Asgore reveals he drowned Dess in the woods because 'someone' warned him that it either be her, Kris, or Noelle, and Asgore decided Dess was the only choice.
He then says he would have maybe picked Asriel had he been there.

>>712858610
Sociopathic little shit

>>712859881
She can feel it because she has a part of you inside her now.
It really is uncanny how fucking rapey snowgrave is, jesus.

>>712859881
I think the message is meant to imply she's growing a soul inside of her.
>And how would she know I was thinking of her?
It's already confirmed in universe that your soul can read and respond to her thoughts. It's not a huge stretch that she'd know you were thinking of her

If you guys told me a year ago I would care about Susie the most out of everyone, I'd think you'd all be crazy.

>>712859881
Noelle gets more connected to the Soul the more you progress throughout Snowgrave
Even when Kris is down she can still hear your voice

>>712859807
Nice

>>712859152
Then why did you go through with it?

>>712859947
all of them but mostly e
there was no spamton thankfully

>>712859968
I know it's ICE-E but that raises even MORE questions honestly. I just posted that screenshot for brevity's sake.

>>712859463
I know but he still doesn't actually emote. It's safe to assume having the soul just dulls his reactions, but not how he feels as we have seen him voice/think about his opinions and has, a couple times, outright denied what the soul picks for him to do.

>>712859571
Yeah he can, but we've also gotten enough info from other characters that he is monotone and lacking much if any emotion to things happening, at least recently.

>>712859567
>Noelle Honey Sweetie It Says Your Windows License Expires In: 17 Days Ago
>Don't Worry I Already Have A Solution I Have Replaced All Your Computer Desktop Interface Systems With "The Linux"
>Say Hello To Tuxxy The Tux

>>712859947
It hasn't been, but the streamers who are ignoring it are doing so mainly because the game isn't done yet and they want to play it all at once.

FUCK Kris
FUCK Susie
FUCK Noelle
In that order

>>712859971
I think the lesson of the game is already stated pretty well in chapter 1: You should always strive for pacifism, but there will be times where you will have to fight for what's right, no matter what. It's a much more sobering and realistic take on Undertale's message.

>>712859240
Suselle making Kris a happy cuck are the actual cancer of this fandom along with troonfaggotry and flags. At least give him Berdly to cope

>>712859947
they would have to pretend to be interested in the game again, and it's not worth re-learning everything from the first two chapters for most of them.

>>712858901
Hah whatever you say theory NERD

>>712856062
reminder this is just a live recording of toby playing the piano
toby fox is putting on a concert just for (You)

>>712859986
>>712859993
>>712860015
Damn, no wonder people meme about her being raped. If not raped, then definitely defiled.

>>712858901
>Toby has to solve all of this in 3 chapters.

>>712860065
that is literally the opposite order of berdly's "domino" strategy you fucking moron

>>712859947
all of the above, except for E
tenna's spamton-lite which should be good enough, and i suppose gerson's got some meme potential through sheer badassery

>>712859871
OCEAN MAN
TAKE ME BY THE [HAND]

>>712857504
Source? Gorgeous watercolor

>>712859947
>streamers and youtubers leaving it alone
This is a good thing

>>712860140
TOBY

>Noelle's face when she sees you like that creepy fanart of her crying
that's mean anon

Do you know what an acorn is?

>>712859958

>>712859913
We are 100% in a Dark World, it just so happens to be better than the other Dark Worlds that are awful in other ways

>forced to kill the titan on my normal run

oh ok, is it because they are black?

>>712860216
Potential.

>>712860194
wow I want to choke her until she's unconscious

>>712860194
Noelle doesn't have ENOUGH abuse art

>>712860140
It's nice my patchwork of that comic together is getting spread around.
But I still can't help but notice the middle left panel is a few pixels too far right.

>>712859808
Absolutely can't wait to see this shit blow up in this creep's face.

>>712860216
Becomes tree.

>>712860030
according to noelle 'mumbly and monotonous' is actually normal for kris' voice, is when he starts emoting a lot is when it's strange
why he seems to do it so much with susie is unclear, maybe he's more relaxed around her, i don't think it's just the soul doing it because (you) don't get to choose the specific words or delivery

>>712860252

>>712860284
How much is enough?

>>712858901
It's because for most of the people in these threads the suselle moments are their single least favourite part of the game and they're trying to convince themselves that toby's falseflagging so they can watch it blow up and get some catharsis for the 40 minutes of undiluted cringe they sat through in chapters 2+4. personally I just hate it because i'm having to sit through poorly written romance in my shitpost comedy/schizolore game and it makes it harder to recommend the game to friends

>>712856062
i really like this rendition of the songs

>>712860093
>>712860048
>>712860170
>>712860138
>>712860027
i think there was a lot of hype and fan content generated by the youtube community giving it so much attention, so i'll be sad to see that go. even if toby's still got it in terms of the game's quality, he can't halt the steady decline of interest.

Pretty sure the reason Kris is scoffing food everytime he gets control is because you don't really eat in the real world when you control him so he's fucking starving..

I haven't done the alternate route yet
should I mod back in the rose scene or is the new animation better?

>>712859871
puprple tinted sea texture for the vessel maker background btw

>>712859745
It was obviously Gaster

>>712860087
I think by now most people understand that Susie and Kris are important to eachother and neither would leave the other behind. What art exists of Kris being cucked is mostly presented as negatively. Because angst is fun.

>>712859564
>>712859894
Also worth mentioning: there is a similar corkboard with papers and strings etc. in Mike's room and when you inspect it alone it says something like "You don't really like looking at this sort of thing."

>>712859706
Kris does the exact same thing if you Ralsei, they're just generally uncomfortable about the question I think.

>>712859913
There isnt exactly a big list of developed characters that aren't disconnected from the plot, not focused on, or gag characters. It's really just Kris, Noelle, Susie, ralsei, and maybe berdly

>>712860114
>Posting some dead girls drawings.
fucked up.

>>712860140
>dess has held kris' hand more than susie
DAMN IT TOBY WHAT ARE YOU PLANNING

>Pray for Noelle
>Kris prays for Rudy instead
Okay, fair

>>712860348
Noelle was made for ryona, Toby "King of Ero Games" Tobert said so

>>712859903
They were both raped

>>712859979
Toby-sama...

Shipping is the least important part of the game, but given that Undertale and Deltarune inherited the sad, broken husk of the Homestuck fandom I'm not surprised it's the most talked about thing.

I called Ralsei's face cute on Ch3 and he hid his face with his ears. What an adorable faggot.

>the flirting is only a soul trai-ACK

>>712860345
you could kill the spawns in chapter 4 without any penalty, which means it was an opportunity to get stronger in an otherwise pacifist route

>>712859567
hey wait a minute

>>712860442
We don't even know if it's the Knight or Dess, stop with this meme

>>712859850
I swear there was a sound effect in one of the new chapters that reminded me of Iwazaru's voice but I can't remember where

>>712859567
I've got a big ahead of me if you know what I mean (blowjob under her dress, just making sure you guys all knew what I was referring to)

>>712860420
Because Ralsei is a clone of his brother, of course he's weirded out by the idea

>>712860420
it's worth noting that apparently if you pick susie he apparently says it normally, susie just calls it a cop out answer and says that the two of them going together is a given

>>712859637
There was this post with all chapter 1-7 plotline portrayed with memes and stock images which turned out to be all real and possibly made by Toby himself

>>712860345
Based comic. There's a reason people loved depicting Ralsei firing a gun back during Chapter 1

>>712860429
qrd?

>>712860508
>without any penalty
So far. I don't know that there will be a significant consequence, but the game tracks your kills against them.

>>712859773
>>712859654
Does Toriel really not remember Susie's name? I didn't pick up on that in my playthrough. It feels at least ambiguous. Like she says "Susie" before she says "Honey, err, I mean Susie"

>>712860526
yeah man i'm sure toby programmed the guitar sound to play then muted it for the lulz

>>712859968
What is ICE-E, but frozen WATER-E?

>>712859843
i mean, i don't see why it wouldn't work unless dark worlds have some weird time-warping bullshit going on or something. eating stuff doesn't work because in reality it's just shit like crumbs or mold or whatever the fuck, if the items are even real in the first place, but sleep is still sleep, right?

>>712860448
>Generally avoidant of her
>Prays for Rudy instead
>But also goes out of his way on snowgrave to comfort her and tell her berdly will be fine
I hope we learn what his deal is, whether it's guilt over dess or something else

>>712859881
>Thank you
>Same as last line from chapter 4 UNUSED text
>Spamton was able to listen to what UNUSED was saying in Chapter 2 (the BUT IT SOUNDED LIKE THEY WERE TALKING TO YOU was a direct quote)
Snowgrave ends with Noelle, who has a supernatural sixth sense for finding glitches that's strong enough to draw Gaster's attention, clipping through reality and ending up in the proverbial Backrooms. The Noelle that heard you during Snowgrave NEO was that Noelle.

>>712860387
New one is creepier. I genuinely don't think it was meant to imply rape and more so the cracking of the facade that upholds innocence.

>One of Noelle's rotating wallpapers is a far-off, snowed-in city
>Snowed-in city
>Snowed-in
>Snowdin
The fuck does THAT mean then???

>>712860472
It's not the centerpiece but you can't say that shipping is the "least important" part of a game where you can get an item called "[character] tea" that gives characters different health boosts depending on how much those characters like eachother. You're not just pandering to shippers you're coating yourself in honey to attract them like bees.

>>712860543
>didn't even include the most operative word "tasque"
I am become retard, ruiner of posts

>>712859850
Gaster tell you to create the avatar in chapter 1 before someone else discard it and force you onto Kris. Who is the other guy?

>>712859297
WHO SUMMONED ME?

>>712859979
that would be really cool in a subversive way, no big epic battle or anything she just died in a really horrifically mundane way

>>712860413
Fuuuuuck I didn't make that connection
Toby Fox is a fucking mastermind

>>712860669
No, that's too big.

>>712859947
this doesn't bother me, but what does kind of bother me is that the music isn't getting as much interest as before.
i feel like the fandom has shrunk to like 100,000 people spread out over tons of videos and tweets and websites. we used to be a lot bigger than that. it's kind of depressing.

>>712860637
It's 100% guilt, he probably sees himself as not worthy of being close to her again because of how guilty he is, and just refused to ever communicate these feelings to Noelle, who is of course oblivious.

>>712860236
>She has a handle on the back of her head
L-Lewd...

>>712856670
and people are saying she doesn't have a thing for him?

>>712860620
She doesn't remember meeting Susie on the bench either, in chapter 2 she says she knows her because Alphys talks about her

>>712860620
she calls her Snoozie while baking the pie

I think it would be cool if Susie became the villain.

Rate the chapters by how good their soundtracks are

>>712860667
Barneyfags...

>>712860669
Can you gen her even fatter
Like American sized

Why do people call Kris a "them" and "they" when he's clearly a boy?

>>712860620
it think it's more of 'she's plastered and fucked up her name' over 'she just forgot it and realized that snoozie wasn't actually her name'
iirc she remembers her name in ch2, and susie is surprised that she did

>>712860669
>bigdad trained Susie slop
PROCEED

>>712860320

>>712860704
She's lost in the code but retard coomers just want to keep dragging her into being an actual character, I fully expect Toby to pull another Mike at this point with a Knight parody in Chapter 5

>>712859958
iBook.

>>712860620
I mostly read her going "Snoozie" as her kind of slurring her name with how fucking zooted she was. And also her just kind of forgetting her. The main takeaway of that scene is her being drunk as fuck though.

>>712860013
Good news: you're not crazy, just stupid.

>>712859321
I think Carol was a red herring and Kris was actually talking to Asgore on the phone. Kris had the power to save before we arrived (we overwrite his save on chapter 1) and has played through the entire story before. Asgore only needed to act goofy for a moment because he was told by Kris when Carol would walk in.

>>712860806
Good Noelle drawing.

>>712860816
people can call videogame characters whatever they want, it doesn't matter.

>>712860816
Toby Fox safety net against tumblr

>>712860791
1>4>2>3

>>712859881
You impregnated Noelle.

>>712860669
based plap god

>>712860791
4 2 1 3
I did not enjoy 3

>>712860667
illegally cute susie

>>712860771
Yeah I remembered that so I didn't interpret it as Toriel mixing that up as her real name. Like, "Snoozie" is obviously not a real name.
I think the alcohol and "I was never in danger and wasn't worried about Kris disappearing late into the night" is what got to Susie.

>>712860878
Anon...

I feel like the creation of shadow worlds are actually just breaking through the layers to the outside world that is our reality and the more barriers you break, the higher fidelity the creatures become. The NES game in itself is actually a higher layer because it's lower fidelity.

>>712860740
Yeah I just hope it gets examined more, which is likely given what ch 5 will be about. So far we've had 4 chapters where Kris is either avoidant or dismissive unless we go snowgrave and mind rape her.

>>712860816
KRIS' PRONOUNS ARE NOT THEY/THEM BECAUSE THEY'RE BINARY

IT'S BECAUSE THEY'RE TWO NIGGAS

>>712860647
are you telling me I've autistically kept downloading and updating the rose restoration mod without even playing the alternate route for NOTHING?

>>712860791
>rape the chapters
gladly

>>712860667
I love how purple is a perfectly acceptable color for a godzilla but they made the suit green anyway.

>>712860816
Because Kris is at least 2 niggas, potentially more

>>712860593
I doubt there would be, or it'd be something minor
like you can beat the roaring knight without the shadow mantle, but you don't get anything for it besides unique dialogue from seams

>>712855079
The Raped (both of them)

>>712860907
I became a father? What the hell.

Kris = Adachi

Has Haaru done any new art yet?

>>712860863
alright anon, who do you think the knight is?
if it's a man, you're a fag
if it's a woman, you're a coomer
make your choice

>>712860870
>I mostly read her going "Snoozie" as her kind of slurring her name with how fucking zooted she was.
That was a callback to a joke they made at the end of chapter 2 when they were making pie together.

>red is the color of BALL GAME
>BALL GAME is nowhere to be found in Deltarune
huh?

>>712859843
I mean they slept through the generation of world 3. I figure they probably would be fine sleeping in there. Afterall Ralsei wouldn't have made them a bedroom if it was dangerous to Lightner health to stay overnight.

>>712860136
>Dominos work like assembly code- you have to plan everything out and set it up in opposite order before it all goes through. Not that I would expect a first-year ROM hacker like you to know that, Kris!

I'm honestly looking forward to hungover Toriel at the festival though. Seems like it could have some fun results.

>>712860816
Normalfags are terrified of upsetting trannies who latches onto they/them label.

>>712860652
schizo-kun can you post that chapter1-7 road map with Peter Griffin saying "oh sweet a schizo meltdown" among other memes?

>>712861018
That guy is still around?

>>712860806
What?

>>712860870
the difference in expressions with Kris being sad but fatigued and Susie being utterly crushed is strong

>>712858901
Let's add some more:
>"The place where it rained"
>What's inside an acorn
>ICE-E in the woods
>Everyman subliminal messages
>Asriel's drawer/TVdinner message changes on different save files
>Cry for help in the code
>Hidden Toriel variable in mantle game

>>712861028
A man. A big smoochable man

>>712860791
2>1>3>4

>>712860791
4 > 3 > 2 > 1
i was going to put 2 over 3 but then i remembered all the shitty robot trio songs that drag the chapter down, big shot can't carry the entire chapter when 3 has consistently better music

>>712860987
It's still on the switch version and I found it underwhelming compared to the crack imagery.

>>712861013
this is actually true

>>712859947
a+b+e. All these combined caused the e-celebs to avoid the game. You should've added episodic release as a reason, too.
>>712859957
Spamton mentions making [Frozen Chicken] will let you drink that [Sweet, Sweet Freedom Sauce]. Ralsei mentions that if they break the prophecy, the ending could be worse in a Weird Route exclusive dialogue.

>>712856497
mad rat dead lookin ass

>>712860140
this is a good scene but the 'just perfectly out of view' part bothers me. it's anti-toby writing.

>>712860194
noelle i'm sorry i don't actually like you crying i'm just so miserable that i like art that makes me feel anything

>>712861104
>4 in last
Explain.

>>712860791
3 > 4 > 1 > 2

>>712860816
Who cares. kys

>>712860475
he's only a faggot if you think kris is male
why do you think you're collecting eggs, anon?
because you're about to get cracked

>Kris taking Noelle to the bathroom for another "bullying" session

requesting this with Kris and YOU

>>712861136
Perhaps Spamton and Ralsei knows shit about prophecy interpretation

>>712857105
Based.

>>712854389 (OP)
What if dess is blind

>>712858901
I don't usually engage with theory crafting in games but this one has me going full schizo over every detail. It's so dense...

>>712861076
pretty sure normalfags are the ones that call Kris a "he" and get shocked when they get harrassed and thrown death threats at by xitter trannies

I'm going down a bit of a schizo rabbit hole with a theory, can you guys help me out?

Does ANYBODY besides the voice during the Knight fight (Who most believe to be Gaster), know about our ability to reset time? Has Kris indicated at any point that he's aware of that ability? Has Ralsei? Have any other characters? I have a suspicion that while they're aware of an entity/Soul pulling the strings and always listening, I don't think they're aware of us and the ability to reset or see multiple routes.

>>712860816
same reason they make him brown

>>712860791
4 > 3 > 1 > 2

Do you think any other chapters are gonna have lightners get pulled into the dark world as major characters like Noelle and Berdley?

>>712861101
>The Nutdealer is real

>>712861269
WHAT DOES IT MEEEEAN
WHAT DOES IT MEEEEEEEEEEEEEAN

>>712861226
Ew

>>712861170
I thought the new battle theme goes kind of mid after the beginning of the song and Gerson's theme was only good/okay. I really like the level themes still though so it's a testament of how good Toby's music is in general.

>>712860816
that's what the game calls them. fuck off with your fanfiction

So who's actually not surviving this game?
>Kris: 50% chance not surviving IMO
>Dess: 80% chance not surviving IMO
>Ralsei: 99.9% chance this nigga is SWOON-level dead
>Rudy: It's fucking OVER

Sex with Carol

>>712860345
I hope Ralsei gets more slowly gets more unhinged which climaxes with him inadvertently turning into Flowey

>>712861282
Hang on lemme replay all four chapters (again) and get back to you

>>712861236
GIVE ME THE LEMONADE NOELLE

>>712861354
*him

I unironically felt sad for TENNA. He just wants to make people smile but is forgotten, a character who just wants everyone to be happy again. His design is cute too (not in a sexual way).

Replayed Snowgrave as part of my Total Jackass run, and I think the “(You)r choices stem from Kris’ impulsive/intrusive thoughts” theory has more credence than it seems at first glance. Kris most likely tells Noelle that “It’s natural” to want to see what would happen if she let Kris get electrocuted because based on what we learn from Ramb and Mantle, Kris has been in her shoes. Wanting to push the world and everyone in it to their natural limits is part of what Kris considers or once considered to be “freedom”, at least in the realm of games. But Kris hates himself for feeling like that may apply to reality. “It’s horrible.”
I also think that explains the returning “Proceed” phrase. Because of Kris’ aforementioned desire to see how things play out, no matter how horrible, a tucked-away part of him wants to see how the Weird Route ends as much as wr do.
Also holy shit Snowgrave is such a turnon. I love ryona.

>>712861282
>Has Kris indicated at any point that he's aware of that ability?
Kris's save file kind of points to this

>>712855079
>Ticks
Kris is for lyme disease

>>712861282
My theory is that Kris has experienced you doing the snowgrave route before which is why he already hates you.

>>712861392
Ufffffffffffffffff

>>712861272
They are the ones that immediately cave in to pressure and start religiously referring to Kris as a non-binary abomination instead of going with what they know to be true.

>>712861107
berdly and queen's themes are really good though, combined with spamton they make for a better package
chapter 3 has a bunch of middling chiptunes (outside of paradise paradise which is pretty great)

>>712860791
4>2>1>3

i laughed and clapped when i saw the jet set Radio future reference in ch4

>>712861282
No, the closest we've had is Ralsei being like "Wow you... know a lot about the prophecy... huh?" somewhat fearfully when we sequence break codes and stuff, which I read more as him thinking we already know the prophecy. I don't think a single actor other than Gaster knows we can time warp.

>>712861282
Ralsei is absolutely aware of us but he might not know our abilities
Kris might know about saving/resetting since he had a save file, but it's unlikely that he knows when we use that ability

>>712861236
GET BACK HERE NOELLE
NOEEEEEEELLLLLLLEEEEEEE
YOU CAN'T ESCAPE MEEE
I'LL CHASE YOU TO THE ENDS OF THE EAAARRRRRTH

>>712861394
He's like 70% of the way to a total meltdown

>>712861267
Fucked that up. Meant blond

>>712861373
Who is the one causing "The vast garden is charred in an inferno of jealousy."?
Asgore or Noelle?

>>712860791
3 > 4 > 2 > 1
2 barely edges out over 1 because the good songs it does have are really good

>>712859947
(f) Let's play content is just about dead on YouTube and Twitch realized causing drama, reacting to things and collaborative content are king, removing the reason to play random singleplayer games unless they're extremely viral

>>712861392
>little bit of cellulite
perfect

>>712857842
>youtubers are wrong and retarded
nothing new there lol

I think what gets me the most is that they never even try to make their theories
a) fit the themes of the game
b) be plausible to explain to the average player
Like these retards really think Toby is going to lock the ending behind the player collecting eggs? That chapter 5 is going to have Gaster show up and launch into a 20 minute exposition dump about chess? For real boys?

Anyone else feel a vague sense of anxiety over what’s gonna happen to these characters? I hope things turn out well for them.

>>712861468
I'm so tired of everything being yuri.

>>712861439
That's a paradox

>>712861282
Kris very likely does.
He overwrites your savefile between chapters 1 and 2.

>>712858901
>why would I care about the characters (literally the only part of the story even plausibly applicable to my every day life) when I could be autistic about three ambiguous lines of dialogue about whose asshole is the least clean in the holiday household for 10 threads
beats me

>>712861415
>faggotry dress on Kris
Just make him a nigger troon by this point

>>712861464
2 is good don't get me wrong, but i'd rather listen to the chiptunes in ch3 that the boring, samey, robot trio theme repeated 8 times

>>712860791
4>2>1>3
3 has some nice songs but most of the shit you hear is the gameshow stuff, lancer's theme alone outshines the entirety of 3 for me
2 had some really nice songs, i really like spamton and a cyber world but I think 4 has more songs overall

What if Noelle was Human?

>>712861516
Toby is a pussy, don't worry about it

>>712861392

>>712861321
>more copies and hand stuff

>>712861282
Ralsei tells us to SAVE in Chapter 2.

>>712861516
Yeah big time. This happens to me when I marathon old shows as well. If the writing is good, I get nervous and I don't wanna watch new episodes because I'm worried about what will happen.
At least in those cases, it's all complete and I can just power through to the ending. But in this case... well...

Kris Kringle

>>712861540
>He overwrites your savefile between chapters 1 and 2
I don't remember this happening, do you have a screenshot?

>>712861468
gross, let me help you with that

>>712861516
Yeah he cultivated that deliberately
Which is why so many of us think there's going to be a bad end -> timeloop/reset -> save Kris and Susie type ending

Because why else would he make the player so worried?

>>712861606
oh like the early Deltarune plan?

>>712861405
He'll be happier with a metro sexual, mopey ghost.

>Good. Keep smiling.
Holy shit this is such a cartoonishly mean option it loops back to being the best one.

>Normal Route where you recruit everyone
>BUT
>it implies mindbreaking Kris and Noelle as we do during Snowgrave
Did I create the best path?

>>712861516
I like feeling awful so I hope it gets much, much worse

>Always do the right thing
>Fix their social life
>Treats me like shit at every turn
Why should I care about this faggot's feelings?

>>712861606
>>712861701
It is weird how Deltarune's premise is like "WOW WE GOT SENT TO ANOTHER WORLD" but both worlds are weird, there's no normal

>>712861728
I fucking thought it was supposed to be being .nice to him

>>712861742
I don't think you'd appreciate it much if someone clapped you in manacles and dragged you out of your shitposting cave

>>712860791
4 > 1 > 2 > 3
2 had too much sweet capn cakes and 3's nes themes, while fine for nes songs don't realize the potential of what Toby does well

>>712861650
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4ADeYLkC3Mc
9:30

>>712861742
He didn't ask for that

>>712861742
Most people haven't realised this because they're retarded but Kris is genuinely just evil and without you holding him in chains he would've turned into a school shooter

>>712861763
Just like in real life.

>>712856497
Come on, don't be an asshole. Post the full or her asshole.

i want to live in the alternate universe where toby released all seven chapters of deltarune in 2018 and the entire extended undertale community was reignited over them
there is something sad about watching the fandom succumb to entropy and attrition over the many WAITs, even if it does keep it going a lot longer than it otherwise would've. feels like we've traded something that burns bright for something that burns long.

>>712857962
>I wonder what.... Got his goat!
>....
>hang on I left my trombone at home, I'll go get it, carry on doing your forensics thing

>>712861784
>comfort misha

>>712861656
whatev chud

>>712861282
Seam knows, he suggests going back to do Jervil if you got the Spamtom crystal but missed Jervil

>>712861784
u have severe autism then lmao

>>712861742
It's all for the promise anon

>>712858448
>Kris had been missing all day
No?

Also remember that this is a town that barely ever needed a police officer before.
Remember this is a small town where everyone knows each other.

Here's my theory:
The tragedy in the prophecy is that one of the heroes must kill another among them.
This is why Susie tells Kris "we're not gonna let that happen," and she tells Ralsei "I KNOW you won't let that happen."
But in one of the later chapters, Ralsei is going to come up to Kris when he's found a moment to be away from Susie.
And he's going to tell Kris that obviously, Ralsei should be the one to die. He's just a darkner, he's just a toy, he's not real, he never went to school, sob sob sob, etc.
And then, it's going to be the inversion of the end of genocide route.
Where Ralsei says, in a shaky voice between tears, "Please kill me."

>>712861784
>glass him

>>712861742
You shouldn't. I sure as shit don't give a fuck what he thinks, I do everything in my control. This little autistic fuck is barely worth the air and pie he expends in a day to day basis, like I'm not sorry I'm doing snowgrave you little piss shit. I'm here to control and I will get you your fucking ending.

>>712861419
Nah, it's pretty clear that you have control over kris' choices completely when given options. Maybe part of kris wanted to reconnect with noelle or for noelle to get stronger, but kris' vision of that definitely doesn't align with yours.
When you make the snowgrave choice in chapter 4, you're literally choosing whether to enter the room or remain in the vents (sus). Kris literally goes behind your back and undoes the actions that you do in chapter 2, and he tries to hide the fact that he's done this from the soul deliberately. When you succeed kris rips you out of his chest and beats the shit out of you until he gets kicked out.

That isn't someone losing to their subconscious, that's someone losing a battle for dominance over the vessel.

>>712861807
I didn't notice that, does it happen in the new chapters as well?

Noelle should tell her Real Mom about her problems, she'd know just the plugin

>>712861794
I'll be honest I wouldn't mind if I got possessed by the soul and all it did was try to get me pussy. But I'm also not coping as much as Kris. Plus it it probably feels like an out of body experience

>>712861892
i cried for i have done this to many a tvs

>>712861742
>All his autonomy is taken away
>He has to just sit and watch as you use him for your own enjoyment
>You push his body past its physical limits which is why he struggles to move when he rips you out
>You don't eat because you can't feel his hunger so he's fucking starving when he rips you out
I think it's fair to be pretty pissed

>>712861794
Are you kidding me? There's nothing I want more than someone to save me from myself. Make me a good person who accomplishes things.

>>712861784
For your own good never get in a social situation

>>712860791
2>3>1>4
2 has big shot, cybers world, killer queen and more, good quality and variety of tracks.
3 and 1 have some other favourites like black knife, tv world, ruder buster, world revolving, field of hopes and dreams and establishes all of the prophecy motifs.
4s music was actually pretty underwhelming since while i liked dark sanctuary nearly every track in the chapter felt like a remix of it instead of having its own identity. even hammer of justice was heavily inspired by undyne's themes

>>712861763
I always thought it was an odd choice to port over the cast of Undertale. It's obviously meant to play with our expectations for Deltarune, but as you point out it's just distracting to anyone who hasn't played Undertale.

>>712861885
The promise... to kill 80% of humanity and then let the rest kill your race off in retaliation.

>>712861892
And don't you forget Law and Order: SVU too!

>>712861419
It always felt like it's a mix of choices that are ours and 1 that is what Kris is actively thinking about

>>712861846
The image really isn't good outside of (You)
https://files.catbox.moe/hk0dxt.jpg

>>712861892
hurry up before i decide to burn in a something from scrubs

god i fucking hate shippers

so much genuine character interaction and deep relationships between the cast of this game and you people all want to turn it into fucking romance manga slop

tenna waking up in a cold sweat at 3 am humming low rider to himself

don't fuck grinches anon
stop Christmas from cumming

>>712861885
all he had to do was stay depressed but determined the whole way through, was that SO MUCH TO ASK

>>712861897
My expectation is that the way to say the world is to sacrifice a human but that's kinda predictable

>>712861728
He said the same thing to Kris after Spamton.

>>712861938
Noele pregente

I think Kris killed Dess which is why he's LVL 2 when you start the game and overwrite the save but I think it was either an accident or he deeply regrets it which is why he's working with Carol to resurrect her using the dark world.

What if humans are going extinct
What if the prophecy is that the last human child alive will be sacrificed.

>>712862034
Eren is not a clever man
But by God he's determined

>>712861807
What am I supposed to be looking at here?

>>712861419

>>712862124
Krismas always cums in dessember

>>712861394
can you imagine

>>712862160
>I think Kris killed Dess which is why he's LVL 2 when you start the game
Kris's LOVE is 1, even after Snowgrave

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=41CP7zcyiKA

fixed it up a bit, i missed some and it was gonna bug the crap outta me
https://files.catbox.moe/q2aj97.jpg
>>712861858
do you have any more that can be fixed up? its good art but it just needs a bit of help

>>712862172
the save file when he clicks on the star is called Kris, but the players save file is called Toriel. it's something easy to miss if you were to just mash through saves.

>>712862172
Kris has a LV 2 save file that disappears after you save

>>712862137
>no kris threatening him to keep his mouth shut

>>712861837
He's a bit troubled, but I wouldn't call him evil

>>712861394
that's retarded, there was a reason Asriel ended up a flower, its not like goats digivolve into floweys

>>712858901
This is actually a handy list because it's plot points (and a few meta elements) without actually leaning into specific theories is the extra Kris not patched out?

>>712861937
No.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VR_8F5rpFlI
19:49

>>712862297
>>712862331
huh
I wonder what the significance of the level 2 is. If it's as the other anon said your lv only increases by killing lightners

>>712862271
It's before you start the game which gets replaced when you start.

I wish we found Dess' rotten corpse/monster ashes in the shelter

>>712862181
holy shit it was right there the entire time

>>712860986
>he thinks there's only two
Got a whole closet full of this lad

If there's anything i learned from Ch3 it's that Kris's place is filled with Real ones. It's not a house it's a home full of people who love him

>>712861439
I think he's merely upset that you're in control now. Going by how Flowey explained how saving works in Undertale, the one with the most determination in the world is who gets to save. Kris was able to save and reset before (you) showed up. He most likely has some sort of goal in mind and (you)r arrival is throwing a wrench into his plan. It seems he was aware that (you)'d show up eventually since it looks like he's built his plan around forcing you to go along with it.

>>712862438
nvm I'm an idiot it's the chapter number ffs
weird how that implies kris has already experienced chapter 1

>>712862438
lvl 2 is because it's ch2
it's called fake level in the files cause you haven't actually killed anything

Which route is the one that will lead to a good ending?

>>712862331
>LV 2

says LV 1 on mine

>>712862495
And he treats him like shit and tries to murder him
He deserves Sans

>>712862495
And Kris is still ungrateful little shit. Snowgrave here we come.

>>712862409
That's interesting. I assume he can still save but is choosing not to for whatever reason.

>>712862331
>>712862297
Kris was LV1 in ch1. They're just leveling up by chapter like they do in the dark world.

>>712861742
You don't. He's not part of the cute humans group.

>>712862464
Did toby do anything to that level in Undertale. I don't even think the true lab did, it was just sorta unnerving

>>712862579
None so far, shit is fucked no matter what

I hope they go full horror in the last chapters

>>712860791
4>2>1>3

>>712862634
he showed Undyne melting at some point

I don't see a fresh thread in the catalog

>>712860737
Ok

>>712861742
Because he doesn't want you to. The prophecy requires someone to be sacrificed at the end. He's making sure you pick him.

>>712862579
the good route will be the opposite of snowgrave, so the hotlife route?

>>712859807
>blue lipstick on her anus
DUUUUUUUUUUUUDE.

>>712862654
Toby Fox put something like the true lab on the baby mode true pacifist run of Undertale, some of the stuff happening in snowgrave is already unnerving. We're not ready for what is awaiting us.

>>712862438
>If it's as the other anon said your lv only increases by killing lightners
no it also goes up after sealing fountains. i think the idea is that Kris is doing stuff at night and saving. i'm pretty sure he's in a time loop and just trying to Groundhog's day himself into a good ending. I'm confident the Holidaygirl1225 post is a different timeline because i'm sure Susie would have brought up the thing that Kris said that made her mad

>>712860849
>>712860909

>>712862443
No, Kris's LOVE is 1 no matter what.
Your Level in the Dark World is a different stat. The whole party's Level increases each time you seal a Dark Fountain.


>>712862438
There's no significance to the SAVE file defaulting to Kris's name. It never made sense and it doesn't happen anymore in Chapter 3 & 4. Toby probably just meant it to signal that you were taking control of Kris, but it's buggy in Chapter 2 (pic related) and no longer implemented at all in the newer Chapters because it was creating more questions and problems than it was worth.

>>712861742
me him hehe

>>712862371
I know but I don't care. I want him to become the flower

>>712862778
>thin susie
What's the fucking point

>>712862718
Steamcradle?

>>712862673
Yeah that was pretty messed up but I think a rotting corpse is even worse. With undyne she still just melted, it wasnt like terrible grievous body horror.

>>712862634
It's been a fucking decade, about time to raise the stakes

>>712862778
>i'm pretty sure he's in a time loop and just trying to Groundhog's day himself into a good ending
That would explain why he has a birdcage in his room as if the player had always been there, despite that now obviously not being the case.

>>712860791
2>1>4>3

>>712861430
>>712861471
>>712861540
Interesting, I honestly don't recall that since it's been a few years. Thanks.
>>712861470
>>712861471
>>712861632
I was kind of figuring Ralsei might since he said he knows the "Rules of this World". I still don't know if that confirms knowledge of Reset, but he's still suspect on it.
>>712861868
Forgot about that comment too. Thanks.

My schizo theory is that Souls are a very much known thing in the world and can be used/harvested for whatever. Considering how many people are aware of them and their possible independence, I'm guessing that all the workarounds that Kris and Co are doing are them trying to work around what they know about a typical Soul, and not one that can attempt different routes multiple times over via Resetting, over with all of the prior knowledge from resetting do everything necessary in a single shot.
I'll keep theory-crafting it but Thanks for the input.

>>712862831
anon susie's whole thing in ch1 was that she was hungry and ate chalk
canon susie is a lanklet, fat/ buff susie is fanfiction

>>712862791
There's a great significance. It was one of the primary points tipping you off to the fact that Kris is up to far more than just silly antics and pie stealing when he separates himself from you.

>kris wants to fuck this

>>712861165
>the 'just perfectly out of view' part bothers me. it's anti-toby writing.
Toby has been doing this shit since Chapter 1, it's basically the standard for Deltarune at this point that the player exists at a certain perspective and can't observe things "outside" of that plane.

All of the egg man scenes, Kris refusing to open Asriel's room in chapter 2, the diner scene with Susie where Kris draws something that you can't see, the angel prophecy, all of it is predicated on this "just perfectly out of view" thing.

>>712863015
so do I

>>712862864
Feel like dess just being dead would be deflating unless he handles it really well, maybe like omoris big reveal

>>712863015
>You stuck your entire head in Susie's mouth and honked.

>>712862857
that's good, and i like cradle
snow referring to color, darkcradle would work also

>>712863015
dess messed him up good

>>712862778
>i'm pretty sure he's in a time loop and just trying to Groundhog's day himself into a good ending.
Sounds like a neat idea, like a Flowey that has no idea how to make people happy

>>712863015
imagine the suction

Dess is the vessel you play as, I'm calling it.

>>712863015
I yearn for the timeline Susie accidentally kills Kris by fucking around like the mentaloid autist she is and is then shunned by the entire town

unrelated to the topic, but i've made a thread for posting cool funny videogame jokes. Feel free to share jokes in it as well.
>>712863205

>>712862072
You're right. It's not as good as I imagined it to be.
Thanks anyways

>>712863225
we're on it, it's coming up

>>712863171
We're gonna jump into Susie or Noelle in normal/weird route respectively. Vessel will be a true route thing.

>>712861471
>>712861282
Ralsei knows everything.

>>712862976
Except Kris couldn't have SAVEd between Chapters because they didn't go to the Dark World because they're not The Knight
It wasn't important. Kris didn't "overwrite your save," the game displays Kris's name on the file instead of yours (only in some circumstances which are probably bugged) without any additional playtime or anything that would indicate they actually SAVEd. There's no evidence that Kris is even aware of YOUR power to SAVE - YOU are the one who SAVEs the game, not Kris.

>>712863015
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1aod-qPzftc

>>712862831
It's canon, she's malnourished
Your idea of 8ft tall muscle Amazon Susie is pure fanfic, she's even shorter than Toriel

>>712863023
i meant specifically that one part of the line, not the 'just through the looking glass out of sight' plot train in general

What can you do with the egg in chapter 3?

>>712862831
she has the same build as asriel

>>712861471
>but it's unlikely that he knows when we use that ability
i think he'd notice his files being overwritten

>>712863346
Nothing, you don't have to put it anywhere, it gets saved automatically

>>712863346
Shove it up your deepest dark

>>712863225
Of Mice and Men theory is back, bitches!

>>712863285

>>712863346
it's teacher food

>>712863369
Yeah but he doesn't remember what happened before the reset, he doesn't keep his memories.

>>712863290
Except that he did, because he's working with the knight, dipshit.
It was important, he did overwrite the save and you need to let go of copium and accept that Kris is the Knightfags got vindicated the most out of everyone.

>>712863285
KILL
KILL RALSEI
KILL

>>712863171
behold, dess

>>712863119
Yes, bully the deer

>>712857842
Wrong colors

>>712863290
How do you know he didn't go to the Dark World? You can go in and out of Castle Town without sealing the fountain, so he doesn't need us to enter and leave.
Additionally, we know from flavour text in the home at the beginning of the chapter that Kris' plans for the end of the chapter were already being planned and prepared before the chapter started.

>>712863501
>Noelle wedgie sketch
Source?

>>712863119
>>712862778
>dont you get it yet, [player]?
>you can read every book, burn every book.
>help everyone, kill everyone.
>refuse to enter the dark worlds or cause the roaring right away.
>it doesnt matter.
>the prophecy is absolute. i've tried just about everything to break it.
>so... dont waste your time in this world. there's nothing you can do.

>>712857826
this is female gooner country you chud, deal with it

>>712863483
reminder that these fags thought
>closet=giga queen
unironically.

>>712862939
>Souls are a very much known thing in the world
already pretty much confirmed, there's a book in the library about souls and Spamton tells you to hand over you [REDACTED], aka soul
there's a schizo theory about dess' soul being trapped in the dark world

So I think Susie wasn't supposed to actually be part of the prophecy and Noelle was going to be the one that went into the dark world.
That means birdly is the one that actually throws a spanner into the works of the whole thing and its the reason he's the first person you freeze.

>>712863290
>There's no evidence that Kris is even aware of YOUR power to SAVE - YOU are the one who SAVEs the game, not Kris.
Nigger, you've been shown a video proving that he overwrites the save inbetween chapters 1 and 2. We aren't on reddit, "Nuh uh!" isn't an argument here.

Should I modify my save to give myself the eggs?

>>712863225
do not make the dino kill herself
please

>>712863595
Just go get them, they aren't that hard to get.

>>712860620
She just called her Snoozie because she likes the pun

>>712863225
i think there was an old greentext/ fic back when ch1 was new where susie accidentally maims kris' arm with an axe they were fucking around with

>>712863595
We have at minimum 8 months (likely a lot more) before chapter 5 comes out. Just do a new playthrough when you feel like it.