Thread 719050352

What's wrong, Kris?

>every thread will just be one joke for another two years when part 5 inevitably gets delayed

take me back to chapter 2 man

The episodic release is going to kill the game. Toby should have stuck to his guns and just released the whole thing in one go, like Team Cherry did with Silksong.
People can forgive a long wait. They won’t forgive being teased and blueballed for ten years.

Need doe pussy

tfw you realize its highly likely that Queen was going to follow the card theme and be the "Queen of Spades" and the fact that she isnt means Toby learned what that means, somehow.

>>719051243
It actually isn't that likely going by the fact that she wasn't part of the card deck drawn by Kanotynes. Her current design is derived from it, but concept art shows that wasn't always the case. The card stuff was always going to be Ch. 1 only

>>719051116
>They won't forgive being teased and blueballed for ten years.
if the 4 year gap between chapter 2 and chapter 3 + 4 didn't scare people off, the subsequent waiting periods aren't going to either. on top of that i don't really see how it'd "kill" the game, it's an RPG and the people invested in it aren't going to just up and leave because they're suddenly intolerably impatient after they've already waited through the longest periods of devhell

>>719050352 (OP)
>uglifies noelle for literally no reason
>carol looks like the grinch in her overworld sprite
>there are people in this very thread who thinks dess will magically be conventionally attractive

>DELTARUNE Patch 1.05 is now optionally available on a Steam beta branch. Access it using the beta branch "deltarune105"

>Honestly, there's not a real reason to play this patch unless you want to help us out.

>By the way, it was mentioned above, but we would like to give a status update on Chapter 5 soon.

Calling for the inevitable delay of Deltarune Chapter 5. Worst case scenario toby released a "videogames shouldn't make you uncomfortable" in response of the weird route, insinuating it will be rewritten.

>>719050352 (OP)
>Toby changed design to make her incompatible
What other proof do you need?

>>719051875
However you should also note that Ralsei's horns are spaced apart and point slightly downwards, to avoid stabbing Susie in this scenario.

>>719050352 (OP)
i just want more art of noelle lookin like the mechanical monster from robot jones

>>719052006
ralsusie is just dessriel but happy

>>719051808
this is worded like hes gonna announce a delay
its fucking over bros

>>719051116
There's no way of "killing" this game.
Toby is a millionaire. He doesn't need money anymore, he doesn't have to worry about selling Deltarune. He only needs to gather enough strength to finish his american to japanese transformation and focus on making the remaining chapter. that's all.

Toby won.

>>719051243
he couldn't call her that because it's what he calls his girlfriend

>>719052327
toby loses if deltarune doesnt surpasses undertale
his test game beating out his literal dream game is the ultimate and final self-cuck

>>719051243
you fetish fags are so fucking annoying

>>719052447
Deltarune already beat UT in every possible way.
Checkmate.

>>719051730
>for literally no reason
it's beta art, deltarune was apparently going to be more anime-esque visually before they scrapped that direction. current Noelle looks less like a perfect anime chick but she's still far from ugly, i don't see why Dess would be ugly unless you associate the game's current cartoony anthro style with ugliness. i wouldn't even call Carol ugly if you check out her talksprites, she's just a stern hag but looks fine when she emotes

>>719051808
>chapter 5 delayed for two years because of homestuck
>prease understasndu

>>719052769
are you guys ready for the Vivziepop-Andrew Hussie-Toby Fox Combo?

>>719053034
i hate that this is happening. i hate it so much

>>719050352 (OP)
how did they fuck up the hunchback neck from this picture?

>>719053106
I don't know, I feel a bit curious. For I have not read Homestuck in its original form, so I may start watching the upcoming animated series to see what's all the fuzz about.

>>719051116
Nah, even though deltarune is taking forever the drip fed chapters is better than silksongs NOTHING for several years. Its actually feels weird that chapter 1 was 7 years ago

>>719052447
Anyone who makes a passion project inevitably realizes that the project likely won't have mass appeal because it's designed to appeal to the creator first and foremost, and that's okay. Toby is probably fine with Deltarune not being as popular as Undertale as long as people are still playing it and enjoying it, which they are.

>FIGHTing is worthless until toby tells you to do it
>weird route, originally thought to be the true successor to genocide route by actually having character writing for characters that already have a relationship with the protagonist, isn't "the SOVL wants to kill everything to see what happens"
>it tries to justify the SOVL's actions by having us work towards a goal we don't actually know the true purpose of yet, and looks retarded for a game released episodically
>limited by noelle actually being present and is super frontloaded, killing the hype by giving us a fucking tutorial in chapter 3 and a five minute (now censored) scene in chapter 4
>chapter 5's length of the weird route is confirmed to be closer to chapter 4
...why?

>>719052327
this is why none of this rage matters and is exhausting, Toby is doing this for his own fun and vision with no care if it doesn't do well, and doubly no care because it's going to do well regardless thanks to inertia and insanely marketable designs for plushies and shit, it's hard to not be jealous of that kind of lottery while also not getting instant gratification

>>719051116
Are you kidding me? The episodic release is the best part of Deltarune.

Think of all the cool stuff we never would have gotten if it was released all at once. Like the Spamton Sweepstakes.

>>719053410
>killing the hype by giving us a fucking tutorial in chapter 3
what are you talking about, MANTLE was awesome. it's essentially a playable weird route prophecy

>>719053410
>and looks retarded for a game released episodically

lol are you fucking dumb, that kind of shit drives people wild, everyone is hooked precisely because it isn't just another genocide run but something way creepier

>>719051116
>>719051809
>>719052264
>>719052769
Why are you like this?

>>719053441
or the catFRIEND minigame!

>>719051116
>People can forgive a long wait
By the time it's done it will be like 15 years

>>719053517
Because that fucking nigger dog said that chapter 5 will release 2026 and I already paid for the fucking game so I am therefore entitled to the rest of it.

>>719053487
Nah, weird route went from being the most anticipated part of Deltarune and the main focus point of any fan theory/fangame, to an afterthought. It had the potential to surpass genocide route, but will be lucky if it's even comparable to the main route now.

>>719053484
I really dislike when people downplay mantle to just that when the atmosphere and the shit you do/find in it isn't cool as fuck

>>719053673
You got to PROCEED the deer girl, what more do you want?

>>719053410
It's very clear that the weird route is not "le CHARA GENOCIDE KILL KILL ROUTE" in red-colored text. It has been already implied through the game (and through Noelle's glitch hunting behavior) that it's about "breaking" the game. You know. When you get so absurdly powerful, the game stops making sense.

>>719053665
>chapter 5 will release 2026
Exactly, so why are you imagining something to get mad at?

>>719053673
sure dude, sure

>>719053673
>to an afterthought
People talked about nothing but this scene for the whole month after release. Kill yourself.

>>719053484
>cannot comprehend that someone would find zeldaslop boring
>MANTLE is so non-consequential that people are doing it on their full pacifist saves
chapter 3 fags never cease to amaze me

>>719053817
Outrage addiction. It's literally consuming the internet. They HAVE to get angry or they don't feel normal. They get angry so habitually, for any given reason, that they have burned themselves out.

Let's talk about 2 dudes 1 doe

>>719053881
nah toby btfo'd the shock of it (i.e rapefags) by censoring it, it was effective in getting /v/ specifically to shut up about it

>>719053930
I'm one of those dudes, who is the other?

Lets talk about 1 Dude, 1 Doe, and 1 Dino

"Aw fuk ye, the $!$! squad is finally here!?"

There was talk about /k/ Dess, but I didn't finish this in time before the thread was gone.

>>719053396
>indie character with worldwide popularity, only being beaten out by something insane like the among us astronaut
>toby does nothing special with him for 10 years, any outside writing is papyrus centric, and any collab is japs asking for him specifically or else the collab is off

>a deltarune character gets a whiff of popularity
>SPAMMMMTON SWEEPSTAKES BABY, SPAMTON ANNIVERSARY VIDEO, SPAMTON AUCTION AND SPAMTON WEBSITE ARG! YOU KNOW WHAT, WE'RE UPDATING THE ARG AGAIN AND WE'RE PROBABLY GONNA DO IT AGAIN! SPAMTON AMA BABY, SPAMTON G SPAMTON! UNDERTALE'S RELEASE DATE ANNIVERSARY?? MORE DELTARUNE

He even mentions how happy he was to see Deltarune standing out as it's own thing, I think he cares quite a bit actually.

>>719053943
why are you trying to pull revisionist shit
the censoring only made it even more talked about, annoyingly enougj

>>719050352 (OP)
shut the fuck Hussie

>>719053517
I might be fucking dead in 11 years, torbert please hurry up and make the game

>>719053943
>it was effective in getting /v/ specifically to shut up about it
literally the opposite

>>719054125
every time I get pissed about that man I look at what he's become and walk away from the feeling because he's already chin-deep in hell

>>719054081
to be fair Toby peaked with Spamton
and I'm not just talking about the presentation, the writing is just stupid good

>>719052735
what the fuck is he hiding under kris and in the bottom right corner
we know he's hiding shit because susie's lines on the right were also covered when toby showed this back when ch1 dropped

>>719053881
Yet, on every internet platform, nobody talks about it anymore kek
A far cry from Chapter 2's weird route and it's populairty

>>719053251
If I were you, I'd just read the comic. I'm as apprehensive about it as I am because even a retard could tell that full-fledged animation is sort of antithetical to how Homestuck used its medium. Homestuck did have animation, and it was notable for how it was used BECAUSE it was well-integrated and served to either pay off buildup or convey stuff that wouldn't be as cool as a series of panels. Adapting the comic into animation gets rid of like 90% of what made it good in exchange for Hype Moments or whatever. I can't emphasize enough that Homestuck's greatest strength was its (heavily involved) writing

>>719054310
yeah, despite there being a new controversy about it every week, and most threads running rape the doe into the ground, its totally forgotten about

>>719054209
you can check the archives if you werent there newfag, the posting after the initial scene and after the red dot censoring died down immensely
chapter 2's weird route was talked about up until the day of release comparatively, but now even the most diehard theorists have nothing to say about weird route other than "we will eventually control noelle"

>>719053673
What do you think the weird route should have been done like instead?

https://gartic.io/011YzB4K
deltarune themed gartic phone come join niggers

>>719054486
>despite there being a new controversy about it every week
(citation needed)
you seem to be forgetting that nobody on twitter/tumblr/bluesky actually gave a shit about the rose or was "triggered" by it due to not even actually getting to it in the first place by the time toby censored it
the only place where it was widespread knowledge/imploding about it before being censored was here specifically.

>>719053441
you and your ilk sicken me
no wonder the fanboys are infamously annoying, you don't care about the actual thing as much as you care about """discussion"""

>>719051116
>The episodic release is going to kill the game
Clearly not considering how much hype its been generating

>>719054486
The only place that cared about the "rape" was /v/. Anyone that misinterpreted on twitter, and actually played enough to see the rose in-game in time, actually praised it for portraying SA like that.

>>719050352 (OP)
Cervix slamming sex

>>719053410
I remember spending an hour in weird route chapter 3 (after clearing regular chapter 3, and before playing chapter 4), trying to figure out how to trigger it and thinking the manhole was an important part of it.

It deserved so much more.

>>719053348
toby WISHES he pulled a silksong
>release literally nothing for an ungodly amount of time other than "its coming"
>if people didnt forget about it, they're doomposting
>essentially shadowdrop the release date 2 weeks out
>it is at an ungodly amount of hype and it never suffered from the wait, devs were working on it at a leisurely pace because nobody was expecting it any time soon
that was his original plan but he caved

>>719053673
this is such a bizarre way to cope with the weird route not being as immediately exciting as you'd like it to be. especially because we know that it's going to be more involved in Chapter 5 and this is setup for that
imagine if Undertale was released in chunks and Hotland came out and then people started saying that it's an afterthought and toby gave up because it's just grinding that culminates in an anti-climax bossfight. and then the Sans fight releases a few months later

>>719054284
>YOU THINK MAKING [Frozen Chicken] WITH YOUR [Side Chick]
>IS GONNA LET YOU DRINK UP THAT [Sweet, Sweet] [Freedom Sauce]?!
>WELL, YOU'RE [$!$!] RIGHT! BUT DON'T BLAME ME
>WHEN YOU'RE [Crying in a Broken Home]
>WISHING YOU LET YOUR OLD PAL SPAMTON
>[Kill You]
I don't blame Toby for recycling so much of Spamton with Tenna, schizoposting like this is clearly his muse

>>719054059
I wonder if she'd be able to follow the /k/ brownie recipe without the proper ingredients

>>719055219
It's so funny to complain about something being "frontloaded" when you literally only have the first half of a story

>>719054704
im not even talking about the rose, but there was a tantrum about it last week anyway
this week its about whether the wr is heteronormative or not
you can't even say that the censorship wasn't a sticking point on non /v/ platforms when grifters who weren't toby fans were shitting on it and are using it as engagement bait to this day

>>719051730
Not really though. Toby still considers Noelle to be conventionally attractive, which is why he treats her like shit.

>>719055514
>this week its about whether the wr is heteronormative or not

The absolute fucking gall of these people. Who the fuck is saying this shit? You mean they seriously think to call it heteronormative when every lesbian relationship in the fucking game has a designated "man" and "woman" in the relationship, even Alphys and Undyne? SUSIE IS MORE LIKE A MAN THAN FUCKING KRIS

>>719055651
these are their reasons
>forcefully making mc x healer(traditional rpg trope, apparently)
>kris makes noelle wear a ring

Post your best Desses

>>719055560
He treats Noelle like shit because she's a character made by him in a story he wrote and she, like every other main character, or even side ones like Berdly, is made to go through hardship and come out stronger or potentially broken. I don't understand where this view of fiction and the idea that characters are only ever tested and pushed to the limit because the author is taking their anger out on them. If he didn't like Noelle he wouldn't have made her a major character and the catalyst for the game's alternate route

>>719055852
The funniest part of this is that they are retroactively assuming Kris's gender while being the same crowd that shits its diaper if you dont refer to him as they

>>719055514
>this week its about whether the wr is heteronormative or not
I don't know how that's current discourse when it's been pretty straightforward and obvious from the start of the Weird Route
The romantic/abusive relationship angle is not subtle, you buy a ring for Noelle and force it onto her, you work to replace Noelle's fixation on Susie with Kris ("I will ride with you, you will ride with me"), Spamton literally calls Noelle Kris's "side chick"

>>719055253
>>719054284
Believe in the Jevil comeback for a Seam boss fight bros.
>>719055812
why is Carol drawn like an NTR character?

>>719054710
You know you can care about 2 things at once right?

Cuckelle lost

>>719056191
It's okay, she's probably just based on a real person.

>>719056235
fuck off poopnigga

stupid retards see the weird route as ammo for their culture war faggotry
real people see the weird route for the lynchian kino it already is and will become

i don't play troonshit but i like rapeshit so what was the deal with that ring and the deer

was it really a symbolic thing of her getting mindbroke.

>>719056290
okay polack, enjoy your western values.

>>719055998
you like this one?

>>719056063
>>719055514
You can't have it both ways. You cant have fucking Kris be nonbinary but also if Kris has a relationship with Noelle its heteronormative. That's peak bullshit word jutsu shit

>>719056332
we're in a deltarune thread Christopher Samuels the scat fetishist, deflecting to calling someone /pol/ is a bit retarded.

>>719051243
>>719052374
Fucking based

IT WAS A HOT STEAMY NIGHT ON JUNE 6 2025

>>719056347
its specifically in the weird route that makes heteronormative
my question is, do gay people not do ring stuff? why is it exclusively a straight thing?

>>719056332
Nah hes right you actually need to kill yourself
https://arch-img.b4k.dev/v/1726782963908.jpg

>>719056304
unironically weird route feels more like misery porn im more into whatever the fuck is up with Friend and what the "tail of hell" will entail.

>>719056323
yes, it represented you "taking root" within her, as it's a ring of thorns that you use to make her more susceptible to your influence. it's the culmination of your attempts at mentally dominating her. you should just play the game, it's fun and you'd get more out of it with context

>>719056323
you impregnate the main character's childhood friend by forcibly infecting her with your SOVL

>>719056505
I respectfully decline to play a game where I got my fill of this type of bullshit from Homestuck and Undertale when it was fresh.

I outright refuse any more.

>>719056479
i assume its because Kris has always read as very masculine because Toby is drawing from his own experience as a weird loser fuckup.
Also no gay dudes and lesbians do a ring thing sometimes depends on it.

This is Carol in reality.

>>719051116
It literally broke Steam's servers, what are you talking about. He already won

>>719054857
I wish I could fuck Noelle so bad...

>>719056642
wait, then who's sitting in the chair?

>>719056593
fair, suit yourself

>>719056676
Carol.

>>719056676
This cuckholding is pissing me off. I will sit in the chair.
I am the original chairsitter.

>>719056824
THE ORIGINAL

Cuck

>>719053034
What? For real?
Qrd on this?

>>719057013
homestuck cartoon

>>719056479
>>719056641
SUSIE IS WAY MORE STEREOTYPICAL YOU DUMBFUCKS

>>719055852
Conveniently ignoring how fucking stereotypical Noelle playing the damsel while Susie rescues her from her evil mother and she hops out of her window and rides away with the bad boy on his motorcycle like some cliche fucking 80's schlock? Ignoring the fact that Ralsei is the fucking healer?

I hate these people. Fucking idiots. Subhumans. SUSIE X NOELLE IS HETERONORMATIVE TO FUCKING BEGIN WITH

>>719057013
ENTER
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yl5x8jpiOsg

>>719057271
shut the fuck up and post porn

>>719056641
Susie is more masculine than Kris

>>719055852
Again who specifically are the retarded fucking subhumans claiming this shit?

>>719057304
TOBY MADE ALPHYS WEAR A FUCKING DRESS AND LOOK MORE FEMININE, JUST TO FIT THE FUCKING HETERONORMATIVE ROLE YOU FUCKING CHIMP FUCKING FREAKS YOU FUCKING IDIOTS

>>719057372
https://x.com/kordacpz/status/1959402256941670496
here's the biggest and loudest one

>>719057157
>>719057320
Suise's a tomboy because she comes from an abusive/neglectful household so she kinda walled herself off with the whole tough facade.
The issue is Toby's using the classic lesbian "butch" archtype that fufills a old school gay thing rather than her being a true "man" so to speak. Funnily enough she uses like super masculine pronouns in the japanese translation tho unless she's around Toriel

So does one of the Jevil items really make the knight easier? My saves got fucked and I never bothered beating him

>>719057157
>>719057271
You're trying to find logic on what amounts to 28 year old theater kids trying to push their favorite ship

>>719051116
an episode a year is such a pipe dream, there's absolutely no way he'll stick to it

>>719057472
Susie is more masculine than Kris. Noelle and Susie's relationship is heteronormative and cliche as fuck. Noelle is treated like a literal damsel.

I NEED MORE DESS X KRIS

>>719057472
susie using 'ore' is just typical tough guy/ delinquent shit, susie using it is nothing special
iirc she also uses 'atashi' around toriel, which is very feminine

>>719057069
>>719057290
Eeeh... well, let's wait and see I guess. Could be good, I just hope it doesn't end up pissing me off somehow.
Thanks mah bois

>>719057508
Yeah, defeat Jevil violently for the Devilsknife

>>719057304
based anon, I agree

What a fucking retard. What a blind fucking retard. These people who conveniently ignore Susie's role in the relationship, it's fucking insane

Uh Oh
Twitter

>>719057673
what is the retard babbling about
is he trying to say that kris is the girl but in the stupidest way possible or the opposite?

>>719057673
"its a commentary on misogyny as a whole and how "the girl" is expected to be weak and afraid and reliant on someone strong enough to protect her and become her strength"
Wait, doesn't this directly goes against the Weird Route? The whole shtick is that "Noelle will become stronger" not that she'll rely on someone stronger than her.

>>719057757
It's legitimately fucking insane. Somehow these people have a massive fucking blindspot for Alphys and Undyne, Susie and Noelle, as well as Ralsei's whole character. Deltarune fans are some stupid ass kids

>>719057842
>The whole shtick is that "Noelle will become stronger" not that she'll rely on someone stronger than her.

Yea, funnily enough Weird Route can possibly results in Noelle being strong. Normal route means Noelle being reliant on Susie to protect her and become her strength.

>>719057554
i meant it was notable because boku's usually the fucking standard tomboy thingy.
>>719057526
its a lesbian thing, i dont really get it but there's a like "butch" and a "femme role" its the same thing with Alphys and Undyne. Toby fucking really fucking enjoys this trope for some reason. idk.

I come to 4chan but all I get is Twitter

Twerking doe

>>719058135
Finally a good post

>>719058085
i think it depends on the type of tomboy
standard ones usually go by 'boku', but the more aggressive/ mean ones use 'ore'
remember that there are many flavours of tomboy, and i think susie fits into the delinquent type more than the sporty type

>>719056337
Nice

>>719056347
>You cant have fucking Kris be nonbinary but also if Kris has a relationship with Noelle its heteronormative
The only people making a claim like that as a broad generalization would probably be radfems acting like psychos about "lesbian erasure" or some bullshit, same kind of person who would say "you can't be bisexual if you're in a hetero relationship"
"Heteronormativity" is being applied specifically to Kris/Noelle in the Weird Route because it involves the player (and possibly other authority figures like Carol) pushing/forcing Noelle and Kris into a relationship that's much more traditional than what they would prefer (being with Susie). There's a LOT more going on that reinforces and complicates this (Noelle's implied dormant/unresolved feelings for Kris, the "childhood friend romance" angle and how that ties into Kris and Carol's "go back to how things used to/should be" motive, the fact that Kris is being used as a proxy for Your own fixation on Noelle) but there's more than enough to examine it.

>>719056479
Regardless of the fact that Kris is referred to with they/them pronouns they're undeniably masculine (you might call them "male-coded" if you were some obnoxious tumblr jackoff)
If Kris was perceived as feminine, they and their relationships with others would naturally be perceived differently. But they're not.

>>719058338
Susie is more stereotypical than Kris and Noelle in that regard. Fuck off Twitter dipshit.

>>719058135
Can we just goon to Doe Gyatt instead of all this talking?

>>719057508
The Devilsknife reduces the cost of Rude Buster to 40% TP instead of 50%. It helps but it's not a huge difference, you get plenty of TP from The Knight's attacks
In the long run the Jevilstail is better, it's a huge stat buff and the Devilsknife gets outclassed in Chapter 4 by the Justice Axe

>>719058562
id rather talk than goon with you fags

>>719058338
I can feel why Kris is supposedly "male-coded"-leaning, but that's Toby's fault for not truly committing to Kris' "non-binaryness".
...Maybe Toby went for the "lacks both genders expression and maybe has deppression" element, instead of the assumed "quirky enby that has feminity and masculinity", and that would explain why Kris is portrayed the way they are

Make it canon Mr. fox.

Everyone always asks why did Toby give us the option to deflower and mindbreak Noelle, but nobody's asking about how people would indulge into the bad route anyways.

I mean didn't Flowey said something in the lines of "Oh somebody else is gonna watch this shit LMAO", taking a jab at people who'd watch a let's play of the genocide route rather than doing it themselves, same logic with the wierd route except weirder cause it's not like doing the weird route is hard and tedious like Undertale's genoslide, in fact shit's easier and it'll only get easier as we proceed deep into Noelle's cerebral cortex, where we will take control of her and start turning everyone into ice cream.

>>719058709
Include Carol in the picture, let's go /k/ommandoe.

So how the fuck does the SOUL reproduce? Noelle is pregnant with a part of (YOU) now, how does that even work?
Do we fuck people when we stab them? Are we raping monsters in UT's Genocide? Or does Kris magically pump some kind of red SOUL sperm when we use his body?

>>719058660
if toby is truly unhinged then he can use molestation theory as the reason why kris doesn't act feminine at all
iirc it's a common defence mechanism for young girls to denounce/ reject their femininity after being sexually assaulted to try and look unappealing as to not have it happen again

>>719058918
It's like the thing, the soul touching one red pixel of someone's blood is enough to infect them.

>>719058918
considering that the sprite for the soul is called 'DEVICE', it seems more likely that it's artificially created rather than a natural thing

>>719058974
>The bloodstain near Kris' bed is virgin blood, asriel fucked her that good that she left a nasty stain (either that or she did the dog thing and dragged her cunt on the floor while going "wooof woof woof")
Cmon, so called King of Eroge, do it, make Kris a rape victim, make everyone a rape victim.

>>719059090
>pages of new smut for toriel
>this frigid bitch gets nothing
My dick is harder than ice it's not fair

>>719058974
I gotta give Toby some credit though, Kris does wear some "feminine" clothes sometimes (like in ch3 on the Tenna's minigames iirc) so it's not like there's nothing to back it up

>>719059145
They just don't get it.

>>719058974
Kris and Ralsei wear ribbons, Susie can't

>>719055148
weren't chapter 1 and chapter 2 of Deltarune effectively shadowdropped within a week of release

>>719059163
>>719059294
yeah but that's only in the dark world
kris just wears asriel's old clothes in the light world, and even if toriel is a poor parent, it's still strange that she never bought kris his own clothes when they look fairly well off

>>719059237
She knows that while she can no longer carry human children, her daughter can. She will prep Kris so he can Proceed.

>>719050352 (OP)
Damn i want to cuddle with noelle.
She is just cute and fluffy. I want to feel her deer fur covered body over my body, i want to touch her fluffy tail. I want her to give me kisses and headpats.

>>719059323
ch1 surprise dropped halloween 2018, ch2 was announced at the end of the undertale 6th anniversary stream where they played ch1 and released later that week

>>719058556
It's not about "being stereotypical." A relationship is not "heteronormative" just because it could be described as involving a feminine person and masculine person. Susie hypothetically being a butch lesbian in a relationship with Noelle is not "heteronormative."
"Heteronormative" in this context means that heterosexual norms - traditional gender roles and heterosexual relationships - are being actively enforced on the people involved. The label is being applied to Kris and Noelle in the Weird Route specifically because how the "romance" in that route is playing out, as a result of (You) and possibly Carol's meddling to push Kris and Noelle into something they clearly weren't comfortable with.
This is not a "your ship is too woke/based" competition, it's basic literary analysis, no sane person is criticizing you for how you want to smash your virtual dolls together or thinks Toby Fox has done something wrong here by writing this very good story.

>>719058660
I don't think it's much of a problem for a they/them character to clearly lean one way or another. Every person was born and raised a boy or girl. Kris is still androgynous enough that people who want to interpret them as a girl can do that, it's just more fanfiction-y than getting deep into stuff like "Kris's deepest childhood memories are locked away in a place called "MANCOUNTRY""

>>719058918
i like to compare (you) to the holy spirit when it comes to the relationship between (you) and the characters. its not so much “infecting”, but noelle accepting (you) into her body. this is also why she thanks (you) for blessing her by your very presence. (you) the soul as the holy spirit would be understood by the characters through the form of miracles, which the soul has already been proven to perform. a lot of the weird route and noelle stuff can be christian allegory when you look at it this way imo. immaculate conception basically LOL.

>>719059404
This but she's also into SPH

>>719058918
This isn't actually a thing
The red dot is just Noelle bleeding after you EQUIPed her

>>719059540
This is similar to how I see it as well.
Noelle's understanding of (Us) gradually makes her a suitable vessel for the DEVICE and also makes it more likely for (Us) to read her thoughts.

Additionally, I think there has been some implications growing stronger and bigger, that Susie may be able to "bond" with (Us) too. Maybe not fully connected, but some kind of direct alliance/communication could appear.

>>719051116
his core audience would've outgrown the series by then lmao

>>719059759
that's just a dead pixel

>>719050352 (OP)
DRIVING IN MY CAR

the soul being able to inseminate people is weird and stupid

>>719059902
You sound susceptible to being inseminated.

>>719059945
you sound susceptible to being bent over forwards and taken advantage of

>An angel is watching us.
>* Good day, Kris. May the Angel watch over you...
>* [Heaven], are you WATCHING?
>Oh my god, so like, the Angel, that's watching over all of us?
>It has, like, this COOL prophecy, like, foretold by time and space.
>* ... Kris, please, look to the Angel for guidance.

>>719057551
kino dynamic

>>719059621
I dont understand and i dont care about your gibberish in language of cucks.

Deer pissy is good for human man. And i want to have passionate threesome lovemaking with both Dess and Noelle and i want to feel their aofr deer furs and i want to have my dick deep inside their deer pussies giving their insides some good massage, i want to hear their serenade of moans while i also being drowned in insane pleasure caused by deer pussy embracing my dick and their deer fur covered bodies ribbing over me.

>>719060013
>the religious figure tries to make Kris get along with (You), maybe unknowingly
very based
Kris, listen to that turtle

>>719059902
Seethe, Kris. I can also hear your mom being fucked by a janitor from down the block, btw.

>>719060161
Your parents won't even visit you after you get in a coma berdly, you can quit pretending.

>>719060062
this poster was molested btw

>>719060239
i didnt know kris posted on 4chan

It's crazy how opinionated people can be about a game they don't play.

>>719050352 (OP)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y45b7UpedmE

>>719060330
Ralsei is a fucking tree.

>>719060297
I plought the game tho

>>719060297
I'm just here to be angry at Toby Fox mostly, I didn't even play the game, I just imagined the outcome that would make me the angriest and then got angry at Toby Fox when he deviated from it

THE ANGEL, BANISHED, WILL
FINALLY MEET WITH ITS DESIRE.
>* Hey, below the words, that picture...
>* ... What the hell... is that supposed to be...?
>* That... that's the Angel, Susie.
>* What... to my understanding, it actually looks like.
>* ...
>* I... I dunno about that, man.

>* (It's a prophecy...)
>* (... Looking at it made you feel strange. You did not investigate further.)

>>719060378
Oh maybe you did, but I mean in general.