this shit fucking broke me

>>714044312 (OP)
My condolences on your secsuality

k keep me updated

this game needs a Netflix series.

>>714044312 (OP)
He's literally me

>>714044312 (OP)
good, keep smiling

>>714044312 (OP)
Me too! Booking the flight to Thailand so I can get my vagina at this very moment.

>>714044312 (OP)
Is it okay for Darkners to have dreams?
>Yes
->Of course not

>the n word? I don't know that word
>I don't know what are you talking about
>I'm telling you, I don't know what you are talking about!
>Fine! You want me to say it so bad?Watch what happens when I say a word I don't know!
>NNNNNNNIIIIIIIIIGGGGEEEEEERRRRR
Jesus Christ Tony, was that really necessary?

>>714042680
>>714043017
There's still potential for him to fuck up Susie,
She borders on Mary Sue but stuff like the knight fight and Kris's shadow crystal quest show that she's not always the center of things
The Gerson side quest however can be seen as worrisome in a sense, it would be kino if she was slapped back down to earth after that in the normal route

The only 2 things I think that could ruin her is if he forces Noelle with her or if she becomes a barrier in the story for a really really stupid reason

The jannies deleted the other thread, gee I wonder why

Why did he wait till the last thread had like just below 500 posts to kill it though?

Why is janny like this?

It was probably this thread being up
Someone just made another

>you now realize that she was as bright and happy as Noelle before Dess disappeared

>>714044312 (OP)
really strong ending to the dark world stuff, and a surprisingly underrated moment

>>714044612
Fuck off, hylic

>>714044312 (OP)
>* I want tomorrow to be the same as yesterday.
>* And the next day
>* To be just the same as that.
>* That in the end
>* We can always go back to the way things were before.

>* (Susie's smile, which seemed to defeat everything)
>* (Shined on in front of you, and for a moment)
>* (It was as if all the darkness had been blown away.)

>* (As if in imitation, your SOUL began to glow...)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sb71Mz8Cbtw

>>714045547
Nah, your party member, not you, being the real main character is a kino trope.

>>714045754
wrong, rudy says she was still cold even before dess

>>714044312 (OP)
didn't you 14 year old girls browsed this website, shouldn't you be on tumblr or something?

why is this retard talking to Kris and Susie while looking at the wall?

>>714045828
>>* I want tomorrow to be the same as yesterday.
>>* And the next day
>>* To be just the same as that.
>>* That in the end
>>* We can always go back to the way things were before.

This is what's going to turn her into a villain. Mad Lad Toby won't make her the final boss of the Weird Route like people are expecting, she's going to be the final boss of the Pacifist Route. I can't fucking wait for all the trans folx seething.

>>714044364
Deltarune is bifag ludo

People who think Carol is the knight are missing out on the pure ludo kino of carol having a super ultra ninja samurai hyper weeb boss battle.
The KNIGHT also uses Western swords not Katanas, carol would never turn her katana into a fucking baseball bat and then back into the wrong type of sword she would never give up on 10000x folded pure nipponese steel

>>714044312 (OP)
It's a fucking object it's not that serious

>>714045834
No no no, she can be the main character when she needs to
It's very clear that's the intention outside of Snowgrave
I mean that she borders on Mary Sue, but Toby is doing a very good job with her so far

>”roaring knight, huh?”
>”sounds like a character in one of my false environments.”

>>714045547
why does no one understand that toby building susie up is because its supposed to be in contrast to kris, there needs to be a strong heroic figure because kris is on the villian's side. its to help create moral conflict, as well as emotional conflict when she finds out kris is basically betraying her.

>>714045873
brain damage from polybius: catz

I've only now started going through chp4 cause of the knight kicking my ass, but there is a legit agenda here

>>714044312 (OP)
One of the most kino moments in a chapter full of them

Was Susie bleeding an effect of the Dark World or does that imply that she has some kind of human genetics?

I told him to keep smiling.
I know he’s a rat, I was suspicious before, but these two chapters confirmed it for me. He’s playing everyone for a fool

>>714046057
based, keep smiling you dumb bitch goat

>>714045828
>>714045990
Her talking about being friends after everything is done kinda cements that this is a very real possibility
She is the dragon, after all, and Noelle has all of those item descriptions for a reason

>>714046143
Monsters in Deltarune bleed
>but they still turn to dust
Yes

>>714044312 (OP)
Don't worry, Ralsei
I will do WEIRD things to break the prophecy!
Everything will be fine!

>>714046175
for me, it's her dialogue with gerson where she says she doesn't want an ending.

>>714045872
Toby Fox games are and always will be /v/core.

>>714046263
Maybe it'll be a Talos Principle thing where one ending flat out restarts the game.

>>714046137
Someone post the I won screenshot.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tBdLO8u-0L8

>>714046143
Noelle bleeds, too. The red pixel in weird route is called "blood_drip".

>>714046103
I know Asriel's not gonna show up until the finale but goddamn I want to see him.

>>714046137
What did Kris write before this scene ended?

>>714046412
Isn't there dialogue saying he'll be at the festival

Kanye west he likes, big fingers in his ass~~~

>>714046120
>contrast to kris, there needs to be a strong heroic figure because kris is on the villian's side.
We honestly don't know anything yet and Kris could be justified in the end, being used or being tricked....maybe he is the bad guy

>>714046427
"I'm Susie and I like wearing maid outfits"

>>714046175
kris, noelle, and susie will never be friends again after the week is done.

>>714046120
Susie will understand when she learns of Your existence.

>>714046137
>>714046317

The chapter 4 weird route ending really floored me ngl

>>714046453
Not that I remember?

>>714046631
what did Toby win

Explain why Rudy is one of the few Light world NPCs that have unique sounds. Why him in particular.
Is it because you'll hear him coughing while Asgore grunts and pounds something off screen?

>>714045990
>>714046175
Susie having a motive sympathetic to the villains' conspiracy is just setting up her and (You) gaining the Determination to break the shackles of FATE and achieve a happy ending for everyone no matter what

With all the available manpower and resources now, as well as more established story/gameplay/lore...
Do you think Toby would change Chapter 1 given the opportunity? Or rather, what would Chapter 1 (and maybe 2?) look like if they were made now? Would something be altered or added?

>>714046679
He's gonna die.

>>714046651
>bandage
This shit was a dark betrothal. She'll never take that ring off.

>>714046327
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KAtudLu42vA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=14sqOJbXtwU

>>714046631
I don't get it

>>714046489
im not saying hes outright evil, but what hes doing is morally ambiguous, its what is making him feel conflicted about what hes doing.

>>714046578
possibly, and probably, but there will definitely be a point where she feels betrayed and questions if their friendship meant anything

Heh, "Dess" as in "dessappearance"

>>714046669
he won in the sense that he correctly expressed what susie is like so accurately that some ancient notes he made were drawn years later by dozens of artists that didn't know about them but came to that conclusion on their own

>>714044312 (OP)
That's fruit juice on his cheek.

>>714046690
Probably quality of life stuff, maybe some better effects, stuff like adding quips from other characters in the bottom right of text boxes, just what came with the more refined programming.

>>714046137
Every shipfag got fed this Chapter but the Kris/Susie stuff goes the extra mile

>>714046730
from AIDS next chapter

>>714046791
I thought he was saying it like we do. "My ship is working. I win."

Ralsei...

>>714046152
>Ralsei knows the whole prophecy
>Kris is from a religious household, and definitely also knows the whole prophecy
>the only ones he was trying to keep out of the know were Susie and (You)
Yeah, that little fucker is pulling something.

>>714046904
Nah lol

>>714046904
why would he think that about his own story, he literally writes whats canon

>tfw Rudy dies in chapter 5 and Kris just stands in the corner like this

>>714046904
no that's just us projecting our desires, although noelle is roo tall for that to work on her

>>714047023
>Toby's headcanon

>>714046925
I can't wait to force him to burn down the school with FlameGrave.
The thorn ring is just a thorn, and we're going to get more next chapter.
You have the secret freak "good girl" Noelle and the secret freak "fluffy boy" ralsei.
The Weird Player's harem.

>>714045686
I actually have no fucking clue. This has to go beyond simple autism

>>714047051
reminder that kris can easily move during cutscenes on his own but refuses to

They were just toddlers...

Just saw this on my tl.

>>714047165
astoundingly based

>>714047051
Kris actually cares about Rudy
When you try to pray for Noelle on the normal route he prays for Rudy instead in "a mumbly weak voice" which is his real voice, not the players voice, according to snowgrave

>>714047051
>rudy dies
>sink 3-0
>>714047131
Judging by the actions Kris takes on his own (alphys cup and things like that) I think he's just a fucking asshole and the soul is better.

>>714047165

>>714047146
My wives

>Asgore hit Dess with his truck
Almost. Not quite.

We all highlight how Ralsei is a Darkner and how he's a bit of a weird Darkner (likely special object attached to Kris or an object that's not really tied just to an item like Gerson was).
What people don't discuss how he's a Prince, since this was basically never brought up after the start of Chapter 1.
Why, though?
Aside from some weirdness, he is just another character, not even particularly that powerful. He is not the leader, or even "a" leader.
He doesn't really have a kingdom or subjects (said so himself). He literally didn't have any personality at first (said so himself). In fact, the only thing he ever did is be suddenly born (likely not long before the events of the game), and just wait for Kris and Susie to arrive.
Yet he insists on being a prince. Not just a prince, but a prince of the darkness itself, it seems.
I doubt that's a word Toby would use randomly.

What is the prince-like quality, the essense of princeness that makes him a prince? How is this going to play into anything? Right now, his only unique quality is knowing the prophecy and dark world rules somehow (again, he was seemingly born or created with this in mind).

Robert "Toby" Fox, also known as Toby "Dyke Destroyer" Fox[1], Toby "Lesbo Lacerator" Fox[2], and Toby "Slay the Gay" Fox[3], is a prolific member of the Massachusetts game developer and anti-LGBTQ+ communities. He is best known for developing the role-playing video game Undertale, which garnered acclaim and has received nominations for a British Academy Game Award, three Game Awards and D.I.C.E. Awards. He is also the creator and head of the ongoing development of Deltarune, which contains many characters and features from Undertale, and has garnered significant praise.
Though never convicted of any crime, the Boston Police Department considers Fox to be connected to the Walnut Street Lynchings of 08-09.[26] Fox has vehemently denied his involvement in the crimes. "No, I was absolutely not involved in that... tragedy. I find it disgusting that you would accuse me of such a thing merely because of my political and social values. If my testimony is not enough, my business partners Andrew Hussie and Dolf Herrman can vouch for me. I offer my condolences to the families of the victim,"[27] Fox said in court when questioned about the lynchings by prosecutor William Carpenter. After Fox was found innocent, Carpenter told reporters afterwards that Fox had a hint of a smile when he said "tragedy"[28] and that Herrman was hardly a trustworthy individual, having served time in prison for anti-gay hate crimes and vandalism.[29]

>>714046120

>>714047165
>>714047230
Is Gibby Lancer?

>>714046317
>>714046631
Now we just need an edit of this with a Susie chin-rest pic(or compilation)

>>714047243
It's weird that none of the darkners stone up in his kingdom

>>714047146
Kris is a moody teenager, of course he's going to have fits
>Weee, you forced me into helping almost kill my (kind of) friend
>Weeee, you made me (allegorically) rape my childhood friend
It's the hormones, realy.

>>714047218
>kris cares for Rudy
>prays for him
>the queen (carol) throws baseballs
>dess has a baseball bat
>kris does a cough to signal the end of the no hit knight
>the knight's chest opens up to an eye (lung cancer tumor)
I'm all in on Rudy Knight as a cope for his missing daughter.

>>714046143
Susie is neither monster nor human. She is a different species entirely, a dragon.

>>714046120
It's possible that Kris is the "good" guy and Susie is unknowingly the "bad" guy

>>714046742

>>714047349
He says his Fountain is "pure darkness" which is why everyone seems to able to persist there
what makes his Fountain different is not known, because damn do I find it hard to believe that the entire worlds balance of light/dark hinges on his Fountain alone

>>714047317
replace him with Kris and have susie's chin be on his head

>>714047223
He seems like he knows where to draw a limit, though. Hiding underneath Noelle's bed when she told him to his face that she's afraid of humans under the bed is a fun prank while showing her how silly it is to be afraid of humans when he is one, and he seems to go out of his way to get Berdly to the hospital.

>>714047349
He says that the fountain in castle town is different since it's "pure darkness" and they can live their easily. Why is there a pure darkness in the closet at the school? Who knows. Molested Kris in the closet theory
He's not to be trusted.

>>714047446
I want to stroke Susie's tail

>>714047243
>We all highlight how Ralsei is a Darkner and how he's a bit of a weird Darkner

He's Kris's projection of the ideal of Asriel, before his brother got older and grew apart from him to the point where they have nothing in common anymore

>>714047146
Chara becomes so powerful she directly addresses (You) and if you try to defy her she laughs in your face and ends the world anyway. You have to ask her to restore the world so you can play again and then you're permanently incapable of getting True Pacifist.

By what definition do you consider this not "acting out"?

>>714047563
Because she did exactly as we instructed.

>>714047359
I genuinely think it's Alphys. She's the only one who could have realistically been in a position to open all the fountains so far.

>>714047718
Man, Tenna somehow managed to make me feel genuinely sad about my TV and N64 that i haven't used in over a decade

>>714047630
>Chara was so fucked up in the head she willingly killed herself to try and possess Asriel to start murdering everyone she used to know
>"she" did as "we" told her to
The ONLY control the player has over Chara is aborting Genocide, otherwise you're just giving her exactly what she wants

>>714047051
>>714047131
Kris's expressions/emotions are just hidden from us most of the time, in the same way that we can't usually read their thoughts or hear what they're saying. There's plenty of examples of us getting told that Kris is reacting strongly to something while we still just see the default neutral sprite.
It's part of the whole experience of presenting Kris as a typical silent protagonist, creating dissonance when we're told about things we can't see happen and making it more impactful when we do see Kris act on their own or act out against us.
It also keeps Kris's intentions more mysterious. The whole scene after defeating The Knight is wide open for interpretation because Kris is locked into a completely neutral pose while Susie and Kris get one-shot right next to them.

I'm still upset that it was just blood dripping and not a new SOUL we implanted in Noelle in the Weird Route

>>714047540
I also like the theory that it's not meant to be Asriel but actually Kris if he was biologically Asriel's brother. Ralsei is the horns Kris used to wear as a kid, and the form he takes is how Kris imagined himself wearing them.

>>714047709
Counterpoint: I fucking hate Alphys
Also would Kris work with her? That's where I question it, because the only people in town shown to like her are Toriel, Undyne, and presumably Asgore as a way to get near Toriel.
I can't see Carol willingly working with her.
>the katana in Carol's room
Just talked myself into believing it's possible.

Kris is gonna disappear like Dess but it's because they're staying with Ralsei

>>714047910
Why does he have a weird jerboa tail?

>>714047910
The whole thing with being unable to correctly percieve Kris makes me think of OFF, and how much the Batter was implied to be hiding from the player.

>>714047349
You can't really create a fountain just by having determination and striking the earth. The Darkners believe this simply because they are retarded and have limited knowledge and deify mundane events, since the Dark World transforms everything and has a quality of making the mundane transcendential (or at least meaningful).
The prophecy and all the tales also make it seem like Darkness is just a persisent quality of the world, like Light is. Like it's something that was always there, another element to the universe.
But that doesn't add up at all. If Darkness has been there since time immemorial and is required for world balance (so even split of light and dark)... Why are we closing the fountains (aside from the risk of Titans emerging, but that's not a pre-requisite for them)?
How is there supposed to be this millenia-long element that the whole balance of the world hinges on and yet there is only supposed to be one source of it, confined to a random school closet and likely created just a few days before?
Remember, mundane becomes meaningful, so for a Darkner a person creating a fountain 30 minutes ago feels like a Deity arriving at the world and inseminating it with life millenia ago, with pre-established rules, relationships, grudges (even though they are aware this is not the case).

Come to think of it, this whole quality of "making mundane grand and meaningful" feels like... writing itself. Considering Gerson being there (who is really just Tolkien who also lampshades themes of eucatastophe) and the whole theme of Chapter 4, I feel like the intention of the dark worlds is not being about escapism (even though ch 1-3 depicted it as such), but rather about the quality of writing and creating stories given form, which sounds similar but not necessarily so.
It doesn't turn fantasy into reality, it gives reality a cosmic meaning instead.

>>714047709
I can't think of a worse plot twist than this.

>>714047243
Ralsei is a Prince because the Prophecy says he's a Prince.
Ralsei exists for the purpose of fulfilling the Prophecy. He has no history because he's not based on any real object. He "fits in" everywhere because he's supposed to be wherever the Heroes go. All of his knowledge and abilities are defined by The Prophecy, and once The Prophecy is fulfilled his purpose will have been served.

KRISMAS HOLIDAY 2026
NEVER STOP BELIEVING

What's his deal

>>714048014
But the dev said he just looks monstrous because you sided with the Judge and now he's the enemy. His "real form" is just the Batter and his mission was always to purge everything, nothing is kept from the player.

>ralsei is just a copy of a book of the prophecy that kris colored in

>>714048171
He's either Kris' therapist, gaster, papyrus, or Kris himself. What I want to know is why the eggs matter.
They're too obscure for anything but a joke ending right?

CarolxAsgore might actually be cannon
>Carol is know for keeping things she values at her house
>likes Santa's
>Asgore admits he can't sell his flowers because he sees them as gifts and gives them away
>started being more overt in her support for Asgore by having him work on her house and forcing the festival budget to be spent on flowers instead of just sending letters about pushing back his rent
>gave him the key's to her house
>gave him the key to her room
>while sans's puts his ketchup in Toriels fridge >Asgore's been putting his pickles in Carols fridge
Asgore's either been or is about to get DOE'd in chapter 5 and he doesn't even realize it.

>>714047540
I know Asriel's traits are the most prominent, but he really has traits of all the Dreemurs.
Toriel's coddling and function as the tutorial character, as well as Asgore's sense of duty and burden-bearing.

>>714048171
Actually nothing you're seeing happening in game is actually happening and it's all symbolic metaphors for Kris struggling with being transexual. Collecting all the eggs opens up the true path where he comes out as trans.

>>714048249
wrong

>>714048361
>What I want to know is why the eggs matter.
https://deltarune.com/thepoorchildren/

Why is Deltarune so anti-alcohol?

I don't know about anyone else but the niche plot point I want to know the most is who made the very first Dark Fountain in Hometown history

>>714048509
Gaster (Castle Town is named after the vessel)

>>714048380
You've got the wrong Holiday.
Or Asgore is Rouxls basically.

>>714048489

Autogynephile thread

>>714046737
That's why I think there will be a second thorn ring in Asgore's dark world. For the normal route, it's to let you craft the twisted sword. For the weird route, it's for Kris to equip to match Noelle and stop him from resisting you.

>>714048594
based.

Keep drawing though. It's the art therapy thing from egg 4.

>>714047243
my theory is that ralsei is a manifestation of the prophecy itself
being a projection of a conceptual light world entity instead of a physical light world entity is what gives him weird abilities, and he's a prince of darkness because he's the concept of THE prince of darkness and that's that, it's just a fundamental truth due to the nature of his existence, if that makes sense
explains why he belongs in all dark worlds, why he's weak despite being also so special, why he has no subjects and why he's so lonely at the start
the only thing it doesn't explain is the closet dark world, but that could be something that the knight purposefully created so she could force the prophecy to happen, maybe the pure fountain is just something in the shelter that expands into the closet on purpose

>>714044312 (OP)

You fap to Frisk.

>>714044312 (OP)
I don't trust the liar

*skitters around*

crocodile tears. this fucker is up to something

>>714048679
I really hate twitter filenames because I don't know who actually makes these

>>714045754
Does she paint her horns?

>>714048182
Specifically Mortis (the dev) said that in siding with The Judge, you assumedly find the actions you did as him abhorrent, and thus you see him for "the monster he really is"
Personally I prefer to see it as you seeing things from The Judge's perspective. He likely saw The Batter as a normal man at first, but after the grief of losing his brother and losing his mind, his perception of the one he blames becomes warped into something amalgamous into The Batter's sins.
>Face distorts into something akin to a beak like Japhet
>Teeth and eyes like Dedan
>Warped human features like Enoch
He pins the deaths of the guardians on The Batter, and so sees those killed warping the image of The Batter. People focus a lot on the bird-like changes of The Batter though, so it could be even simpler that The Judge simply can't help but grieve and see distorted images of his brother's murderer through The Batter.

>>714046143
Monsters bleed and shit in Deltarune

>>714048693
I love this

>>714048638
It's for Ralsei.
He's learning fire magic
In the normal route Rudy tells Noelle to use Fireshock but she says the mage left.
In the weird route he tells her to use Fireshock but she uses Iceshock instead.
The mage doesn't leave in the weird route, because both of them will be TRANCE'd

>>714048772
entirely possible
carol is actually a very goofy character once you get past her music sounding like something from a nightmare section in an rpg maker game

>>714045828
this not playing on the weird route is proof that it will be the bad ending

>>714048014
>>714048182
Some old post on Deviant Art where Mortis mentions it. Overall he's pretty liberal about fan interpretations of the game though. He kinda checked out once tumblr went crazy over it.

>>714048691
Why is Ralsei so anti player when he was so incredibly firm on the fact that everyones actions are railroaded from the beginning?
If they aren't and the player can change that doesn't mean that fate can change?
also when are we gonna tell these idiots that even if they can change fate that in itself is predetermine

>>714047859
*deletes the save file*
nice control chara lmao

>>714048592
I wouldn't put it past Toby to pull a bait and switch of this caliber.
Make it seem like Rudy and Asgore had a thing for each other when in reality their just college buddy's and its Carol who's secretly harboring feelings all this time.

>>714048693
Holy kek

>>714048045
>You can't really create a fountain just by having determination and striking the earth.
What really happens is that there is already a source of Darkness underneath the town (likely connected to the bunker), and striking the earth just somehow reveals it.
This doesn't really address the issue of the closet, though. Why is it there that the only real/pure fountain resides? Why not in the bunker, then?
Moreover, if Darkness is just someone's (Gasters' or anyone else's) recent experiment, why all the fuss about it? Why the millenia-long stories, why the Deltarune religion? If it can bring such a calamity, wouldn't it be easier to just not create it instead and avoid all the trouble? Or is the risk of summoning a calamity worth it as the dark supposed to save us from something even worse?
Darkness being an element inherent to the universe as the stories say doesn't fully add up. It being someone's manmade experiment doesn't fully add up either (unless it was somehow required to create it despite everything).
What really doesn't add up is there being a real-world religion and prophecy tied to it, even though the Light World is supposed to be completely realistic in contrast with the Dark. Why, then? And what's with the prophecy? Who prophesized it? Who believed it for hundreds of years without a charismatic Jesus-figure to spread/symbolize it? It just is, somehow.
I don't actually want this game to go full meta, but I imagine it'll go something like this. The only logical way for something to exist in the Light World as immoving and unchaging while maintaining its role as a "real" world... is to have something come from an even higher reality, which is either our real world or Gaster shit.
The game already has a whole theme of worlds within worlds going (Chapter 3 has like five layers of it).

>>714048906
She's extremely abusive towards Noelle to the point that even Rudy mentions it in chapter 2's ending. She's not going to be a happy character in any way.

Kris is already dead and lacks a soul
That's why he walks like some zombie gremlin without us
When we inevitably leave he dead

Why was the knight trying tokidnap Toriel with some sort of suction beam but then instantly kidnaps Undyne by turning into an Albatross?

>>714046143
>*tap the sign*

I just want Kris in a skirt

"Ralsei is le ebil" fags lost extremely hard in chapter 4 but they still exist somehow

new art! 01 :p

>>714048693
cool dog

>>714049052
Rudy is dying of cancer.
Toriel is a fat whore on a chair.
Undyne is a skinny fish woman.
Even if he can shoot lasers he still can't lift her without dying.

i would personally like to kiss the goat boy but thats just me

>>714048693
Reminds me of my chihuahua

>>714049134
new art! 02 :p

>>714048574
Castle town is named after the player, not the vessel.

>>714049223
You should draw Carol giving birth to Dess

>>714049098
As you wish.

>>714049223
new art! 03 :p

>>714049098

>>714047446
I want to protect their smiles

>>714048919
Ralsei also doesn't compliment Kris's piano playing when you leave, even if you comfort him.

>>714048958
>Why is Ralsei so anti player
Ralsei isn't against us. Ralsei is aware of us but doesn't want us to know that. Ralsei and Kris both know that (You) are watching them, and Ralsei is trying to maintain kayfabe throughout the game.
Ralsei is presumably aware that if you abandon the game the world is doomed, so he does his best to appeal to you and accommodate what you want to keep you engaged with the game. He's also aware that you're possessing Kris against their will, so he creates opportunities to distract you to give Kris a break sometimes, just out of the goodness of his heart.

>>714049280
new art! 04 :p

>>714048979
I just can't see it happening until after Rudy dies. Asgore bring him flowers daily, just like Toriel.
I don't want Toby to bring Asgore any lower man, he's just a good dad with a drunken whore wife.

>>714049106
still untrustworthy to (me)
fucker can use fire magic and OHKO'd Sound of Justice. Yet in front in the Knight not once but twice he cowers

>>714049359
new art! 05 :p

>>714048693
LITERALLY me.

>>714048536
kek

>>714049352
that sounds like he is against us tho. the little goat will suffer for his transgressions.

>>714049098

>>714049158

>>714049457
new art! 06 :p

>>714049515
He will suffer by kissing me. A lot.

>>714049457
Canst thou perchanceth draw theme havinge sex withe rouxls Kaard. If not canst thou draw hime watchinge at least

Guys, i kinda threw up rn

>>714049352
>he creates opportunities to distract you to give Kris a break sometimes, just out of the goodness of his heart
Out of all the speculation this is the first one I've read that sounds reasonable

>>714049550
new art! 07 :p

>>714048851
in the normal route doesn't she use fireshock and it gets reflected back at her because the ice palace boss was actually weak to ice?

>>714049585
Couldst thou draw Rouxls Kaard...

Happyeth?

>>714049539
Come on kid invest a few [kromer] into Rudy Knight theory. The stocks are going [TO THE MOON] next chapter. THE KIDS ALL [hyperlink blocked] IT!!!!
>deal
>no deal

>>714049629
new art! 08 :p

>>714044312 (OP)
i'd take Ralsei's cock up my ass, im not gay though.

>couldn't do Mike boss fight since it's only available if Tenna didn't die in chapter 3

>>714049643
I'm afraid that's impossible.

>>714044364
actually its homoSECKSual

>>714049691
Last new art! 09 :p

>>714049634
>rudy plays the game all the time
>tells her to use the wrong spell on purpose
What the fuck is his problem?

>>714048958
>Why is Ralsei so anti player when he was so incredibly firm on the fact that everyones actions are railroaded from the beginning?
His dialogue in chapter 4 if you're on snowgrave explains it. Depending on our actions, it's possible that us breaking the prophecy ends up with an even worse outcome than fulfilling the prophecy in the first place. It's up to us to go all-in on Susie and prove that breaking the prophecy will lead to a happy ending.

>>714044312 (OP)
Pathetic millennial tranny lmao

>>714049772
never played .hack but this is cool looking art

>>714049556
>>714049704
Why does this goat have this effect on human men?

>>714044612
No. But I wouldn't mind some more short story comics.

>>714049536
How much for an hour?

>>714044312 (OP)
>Kris: Good Keep smiling. Also if you stop smiling I'll kill Susie.

>>714046427
Probably something genuinely nice.

>>714049098

>>714049794
He's actually mad about breaking the prophecy because the true last line is "and then the prince got his goat bussy pounded" and snowgrave is breaking that.
Noelle says NO to faggots on snowgrave

>>714046027
Poly is cuck shit

>>714047446
I hope we get this if we sit at the lake.

>>714049536
>>714049098
>>714044312 (OP)
>>714044612
>>714045754
>>714049293
>"this game broke me"
>netflix
>tumblr lgbt shit
>no game discussion, just offmodel fanart spam

Wait, are you guys actually trannies?

>>714049762

>>714049892
What did Kris say?

>>714046385
That's a really well done piece. Almost looks like an actual cameo

>>714045547
Susie isn't a mary sue. She's strong willed and has the ability to push the story in various directions but she is categorically *not* the most important or powerful person in the world. She gets shat on a bunch and has failings which she works to overcome. Not a mary sue.

>>714049772
Very cool

>>714050069
He said True

>>714050078
A mary Sue would not go through the Gerson arc because she would have been the best healer from the beginning

>>714049704
It's only gay if your balls turn blue from the bruising received when his hammer into them

>>714048182
Doesn't Sucre call him a scary ducky? Which, all things considered, isn't that far off from how he looks like at the end of the game if you regret helping him.

>>714050003
Sounds like you're mad that Kris has two girlfriends and you can't get one

>>714049772
nice

>>714050069
no u

how long until chapter 5?

What could this mean?

>>714050153
exactly

>>714050069
"You're crying"

>>714050236
noelle isn't allowed at the tea parties

>>714050069
Ni**ER

I forgot to notice something right before ending Chapter 4: What was Kris' HP after leaving the Dark World? He was at 16/20 before entering it, iirc.

>>714050061
I'm actually a humble AIsaar

>>714050217
You'll have to wait until December 31st 2026

... For it to be delayed to 2027

If the game ends with Ralsei permanently separated from everyone else I'll be so mad. I read the Golden Compass as a kid and it pissed me off there, I can't do that again

>>714050363
Ralsei is the most doomed character after Rudy.

>>714050363
We're not gonna let that happen
... right?

>>714050363
Nigger he isnt even real in his own game

>>714050363
Bro Darkner lives don't matter, he said it himself

>>714050184
>you can't get one
Bet

>>714050184
>Kris has two girlfriends
he fucking wishes, step aside cuck.

>>714050363
He's gonna get full Goner'd bro. No memories of him either.

>>714044312 (OP)
this game looks like cringey furry faggot shit

>>714050217
Barring some catastrophe we'll probably get chapter 5 next year. The rest of the game? Maybe 2030.

>>714050506
Based

>>714048693
I love minikris so much.

>>714050506
Vessel not being a part of the story as a way to force Kris to realize how absent he's been in driving forward his life is a crime.

>>714046690
spamton would have the special text from tenna

>>714050405
we're making our own future

>>714050069
amogus

>>714047165
this would be fitting if sam was nicoelle because both were raped

>>714050363
I feel Noelle is going to be replacing Ralsei in future chapters.

>>714046427
this

>>714050728
I don't think so. Spamtons bracketed text seems like an attempt at getting the special effects but since there's no Mike working backstage for him it's not happening.

>>714046327
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e0zItV_-b84

>>714044312 (OP)
Cool!
Now watch as we collectively fill an olympic sized swimming pool when this fucker gets hurt somehow. Regardless of her flaming homosexuality.

>>714049772
you got a place or something you post these? love em

>>714050863
>Didn't specify how we're filling the pool
crud

The problem with Freedom is that there's only so much to go around.
Eventually, your choices will conflict with others. That's why Snowgrave is so concerned with manipulating Noelle and otherwise violating peoples' will.
How far will you go to feel like your choices matter? To feel like a Big Shot? Are your choices more important than those around you?

>>714046690
I don't think it would be necessary, but I could see them going back and adding some small QoL stuff in chapter 1, fixing some miscolored sprites, that sort of thing. I don't think there will be (or should be) a complete rework though, it's kinda cool that deltarune is a game that you can literally feel get more professional and polished as you play.

>>714050934
I really triggers my autism that chapter 1 doesn't have the spare %

>>714050732
Alphys could figure it out if she was let in on it, but she'd create a bunch of manmade horrors in the process.

>>714050564
why cant we both be friends with susie

>>714050184
One boyfriend, actually.

>>714050924
SHUT UP KANT
I'LL SHOVE YOUR SOCIAL CONTRACT PHILOSOPHY RIGHT BACK UP YOUR COCK-HOLE

>>714050363
>Ralsei is actually some stuffed doll Dess made with Kris' old devil horns
>In the best ending Kris and Susie have a child named (Player Name) and the Ralsei doll is their favorite toy

>>714049772
I am not replying to like 9 posts but very very nice Anon, respect for the art hustle, these look really cool.

The mantle games are the peak of Deltarune ngl

>>714050184
Ralsei's not a girl, gay boy

Think Kris, Susie and Noelle will ride the Ferris Wheel together?

Will there ACTUALLY be an aborted snowgrave route? Do you guys think Toby has it in him to program three whole separate routes?

>>714050184
>Kris has two girlfriends and you can't get one
*Ralsei

>>714050863
Noelle dying really wouldn't be that emotional, at least at this point in the story. She hasn't really had many moments to get close to the main party, and the relationships she does have are mostly built on small details that most people aren't aware of. I mean if you don't look into all her hidden dialogue you might get the impression that she's closer to Susie than Kris just because almost all of her scenes have been centered around the two of them.

>>714044612
That would be horrible, they might turn the characters gay

>>714051056
I would fucking kneel.

>>714050236
Could refer to noelle tea, more likely refers to a memories of riding a tea cup ride with her at a theme park

>>714050924
Those sound like the words of someone who just isn't DETERMINED enough.

>>714049772
Please do more Carol stuff - it s amazing.

"I want enough offspring to pull a sleigh full of presents" is an amazing line.

>>714051056
yeah
kris looked one bad day from offing himself and susie saw why
there's 0 chance she's letting kris out of her sight

>>714050815
>[[Hyperlink Blocked]]
yeah you’re right

>>714051056
Kris and Susie will ride together and shake the chair so hard they break the ride.

>>714051056
there's only gonna be enough room for 2, Susie's gonna be like "I wanna ride with Kris, besides we already rode one together." and Noelle's gonna simultaneously cream her panties, and feel her heart break

>>714050557
Dumb premise of the image, aside, I would love to see Kris just snap at the Knight and the evil plot midway through and become and actual ally to The Fun Gang, instead of just being led around by the player.

>>714048772
this was my first thought the moment I saw them

>>714050363
He's cooked

What if who you go to the date with is decided by who you give the gift to in chapter 2

>>714051124
>Noelle dying wouldn't be that emotional
Toby has yet to write his own Aeris death scene so I imagine it will either be completely hamfisted or right after she admits to everyone just how much she misses him.

>>714051014
I have never read Kant, but maybe I should if that's similar to what I think the weird route is going for.
Kralsei.

>>714051085
anon chapter 4 was the ABORT MISSION chapter lmao

>>714050924
>How far will you go to feel like your choices matter? To feel like a Big Shot?
Until I can stand up with my head in the clouds and see [Heaven]
>Are your choices more important than those around you?
Yes

I can't look at porn of the characters after these chapters man
they feel too real to me, it's weird now

>>714051312
You are afflicted with a perverse sentimentality. Me neither mate.

>>714051312
Same

>>714051085
Snowgrave isn't even on the same level as Genocide, it wouldn't be a third route. He might not have been memeing about there only being one ending either.

>>714051124
>Noelle dying really wouldn't be that emotional, at least at this point in the story.
If Toby Fox kills Noelle permanently I am pulling up to whatever overpriced shit condo he lives in japan and I'm making what you do to Noelle in Snowgrave look like a fucking joke

>>714051252
ralsei pillow is very funny to me

>>714051085
Noelle getting equipped is what hardlocks snowgrave, there will not be another chance

>>714051210
Ralsei orchestrated this

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KZib5NryGuc&ab_channel=MementoMori

>>714051226
>I go with Susie
Not bad.
>I still realized that I should have given it to Ralsei, since he has nothing in his room.
>But I gave it to my dumb lizard slut instead.
SHE KNOCKED DOWN THE BOTTLES!
IT MADE SENSE AT THE TIME!
I DON'T WANT TO REDO CHAPTER 3 AGAIN!

>>714047910
It seems to start going both ways though, Kris might fight like when he lashes out if you try and pray for Noelle during a weird route but the soul is acting out too at times, like after you rape Noelle Susie asks what happened and (you) literally refused to give any kind of answer, its implied even if you say something thing Kris can imply his own things on top of that, so by literally blocking out any answer, Kris can't give any implications to make Susie suspicious

>>714051339
If sentimentality is perverse then call me the "king of ero games"

>>714051312
not me, i just busted twice to Ralsei ever since. haha.

>>714051312
You need to find the good porn that respects characterization, not generic slop that just makes Ralsei a femboy and Susie a titty monster

>>714051312
I got over this and now the emotions make the porn better. It's also when I realized vanilla is the best porn.

>>714051263
>>714051381
What I mean is, if you do snowgrave and freeze berdly, but then abort snowgrave in 4, will berdly just magically be fine and things would proceed as they have normally, or would there be a third route where things play out as they would in normal route but without berdly?

>>714051226
>Berdly even after giving him the wrong number song in 4

>>714050704
That'd be kino as shit if that ends up happening though

>>714051438
Ralsei got the ICE-E plushie and he's going to be fucking happy about it.

>>714048693
KEK

>>714051470
>vanilla is the best porn.
Ah, a man of taste I see

>>714051470
The truth is that vanilla was, is and will always be the best porn

>>714051226
Not sure how I'd go about bringing Ralsei, not like I'd want to bring him anyway.

>>714051085
I actually find it less likely now. The main evidence was that you could keep the thorn-ring, which would presumably be used for crafting the twisted sword in a hypothetically super secret reacharound third route, but we've seen kris is able to take the ring back, and noelle is obviously going to remain a major character, so there's no reason why she can't just take it off under kris's orders.

>>714051535
You DO know what dominos means, don't you anon?

>>714051085
the TwistedSword and Gerson dialog and Yellow/Red/Magenta color motifs have confirmed it for me

>>714051468
Tail too long

>>714046118
underrated post

I saw Sans at a grocery store in Los Angeles yesterday. I told him how cool it was to meet him in person, but I didn’t want to be a douche and bother him and ask him for photos or anything.
He said, “Oh, like you’re doing now?”
I was taken aback, and all I could say was “Huh?” but he kept cutting me off and going “huh? huh? huh?” and closing his hand shut in front of my face. I walked away and continued with my shopping, and I heard him chuckle as I walked off. When I came to pay for my stuff up front I saw him trying to walk out the doors with like fifteen Milky Ways in his hands without paying.
The girl at the counter was very nice about it and professional, and was like “Sir, you need to pay for those first.” At first he kept pretending to be tired and not hear her, but eventually turned back around and brought them to the counter.
When she took one of the bars and started scanning it multiple times, he stopped her and told her to scan them each individually “to prevent any electrical infetterence,” and then turned around and winked at me. I don’t even think that’s a word. After she scanned each bar and put them in a bag and started to say the price, he kept interrupting her by yawning really loudly.

>>714051528
third route is my guess or simply toby make noelle put the ring by herself to punish (you) from starting snowgrave

>>714051542
NO ONE WANTS TO ICE-E PLUSHIE!
IT'S A FUCKING TRAVESTY!
>This is the best thing is Ralsei's room by process of elimination.
THAT DOESN'T MEAN ITS GOOD!
All Susie and I got was a couch cushion and a ladder! We did not get nearly enough shit for him in chapter 4!
I JUST WANT MY GOAT TO BE HAPPY!

>>714050548
>The rest of the game? Maybe 2030.
>another 4 year wait for 2 chapters

>>714051312
this happens to me all the time, it's somewhat refreshing

>>714051056
Noelle will ride with me.

>>714051056
Ralsei or Bust
>>714051226
>that one flag bug back in chapter 2 means that lots of carried over saves will have ralsei whether you like it or not
https://youtu.be/gHlfIur3_9E&t=55s
kek

Autogynephile thread

>>714051130
Anon...

>>714051713
At least i hope chapter 5 has a really good "to be continued" ending since the original plan was to release it alongside 3 and 4

>>714051708
the goat exists for suffering

>>714051049
He is when I'm inside him.

>>714050732
RALSEI DONT DO BLACKFACE YOULL GET CANCELLED NOOOOOO

Reminder that in Snowgrave when you go fight spamton Susie goes to check on Noelle and we don't see what happens, but Susie comes out of it flustered and Noelle comes out of it more confident.
The route is all about making Noelle confident and reach all her desires. That means getting the girl.

>>714050236
Deer lack opposable thumbs and so are incompatible with teacups.

>>714051807
That'll make it even worse
4 years on a supermassive cliffhanger
Chapter 4 is already insane, same with Snowgrave

>>714051826
It's ok. Blacks don't exist in the Deltarune universe

>>714051857
>We will ride with Susie

>>714044312 (OP)
ralsei sucks faggot he's going to die and I'm going to laugh
>>714050061
been trannies and losers since /utg/ opened the 'cord in '15

Is it just fancanon that Carol fucking loves Christmas or is that actually in the game.

>>714051937
wrong

>>714051857
Susie? Who's that?

>>714052001
she has snowflake shurikens, what do you think?

>>714051969
>We will ride with Susie
Who's saying that Kris and Noelle? I actually like that. What if that's what's going on with the thorn ring and the red pixel? Noelle is starting to become connected to the Soul, until both are controllable by us as one unit. The ultimate union between two people: being controlled by the same player.

>>714052001
Niggy their whole family loves Christmas, they're reindeers

>>714050732
post cute but nonsexual ralseis

>>714051226
>Noelle just thinks we don't want it.
FUCK!

>>714052001
She has a lot of Santa stuff that Noelle says her Mom collects and the entire place looks like it's done up for Christmas. You could make the argument that it's less about the holiday itself and more about her missing daughter, though. Because, y'know. December Holiday. Looking at it through that lens the entire place is a walking trauma facility.

>>714051857
Bro is still stuck at Chapter 2

need more of the dumbest fucking memes

>>714052001
>Has rows of tinsel, gingerbread cookie sheets, and three separate dancing Santa dolls in her house, along with a room specifically full of readied gift boxes and snowflake decorations
>In the beginning of autumn
I'm going to be honest, chief, she might like Christmas. I have this gut feeling.

>>714052107
chapter 4 already established that she's in mega turbo denial mode. She's just trying to "pssh, no way!" herself so she doesn't have to actually confront her actual feelings.

>>714052107
Nah, Kris just jokes with her saying he wants a refund

>>714051857
>

If you abort Snowgrave then the Annoying Dog will appear out of nowhere and steal your Thorn Ring
No fun allowed

>>714052148
these are my favorite memes

>>714052148

>>714050997
That's what I think

>>714047243
I like this theory the most
(I'm a retard who didn't screencap the spoiler but it wasn't critical)

>>714044612
>mfw they make Ralsei black

>>714052148

>>714052275
Bro he’s literally made of shadows and cotton candy, how the hell would you even tell? Every frame of this goat is either pitch black or glowing green, he's like a walking rave in a bathrobe. Let the fluff prince be ambiguous, damn.

>>714052148
Allow me to post the real one

>>714052203

Kris getting confused and stiffing up or denying your advances whenever you choose a Noelle option makes me think that while he very much cares for Noelle he very, VERY much doesn't want the SOUL anywhere near her and that's why he rejects any advances. Because he knows what happens when LOVE finds its way to the girl.

>>714052262
If we actually get our vessel back this is almost certainly going to happen

>>714049352
Doesn't Kris die slowly when he takes breaks from us? Or does he keep that sweet soul juice running even when we're looking somewhere else?

>>714048693
why the fuck is this so funny kek

>>714052148

>>714052362
Me and who??

listening to this every night

>>714052328
I'm just shitposting

>>714052148
DBZ memes are peak retard but I always find them funny

>>714052175
deltarune probably takes place in mid-late november
toby can do the kino thing where december gets found on the first

>>714051824
Gay

>>714052362
Both are girls though?

>>714052392
well? is it working?

>>714052262
>Now none of us will be virgins!

>>714052148

>>714048997
>extremely abusive
she's just a hard-ass and pretty neglectful

>>714052180
Kriselle has some kinography, just a shame that Noelle has to be pushed a bit

>>714052392
did you get a Dess girlfriend yet?

>>714052148
susie knowing where they are now is a fun evolution from where the fuck are we

>>714052297
This is what love looks like I assume

>>714052069
>>714052079
>>714052114
>>714052175
I just found this series of images and haven't gotten to that part of the game yet and I think it's just incredible that she loves Christmas despite coming off as a total asshole. Like some innocent things like Christmas are sacred - it's like holding hope and having optimism that can only exist in a world that has a Christmas.

>>714052412

>>714052348
I think he's also in denial + trauma. Maybe it has nothing to do with the prophecy

>>714052148

>>714052481
yes but they are to young to notice it

>>714052148
.

ANYONE HAVE THE VERSION OF THIS MEME BUT ITS ASRIEL AND ASGORE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i9r_nMzdTu4

>>714052101

>>714052538
They still won't notice until after the 2nd kid

Guys, are we really retarded for liking this shit? I feel getting dumber and dumber with every chapter.

>>714052568
No, but I have this
https://files.catbox.moe/im71fg.mp4

>>714048693
HE'S A MENACE

>>714052436
nah it's straight
they said no homo

>>714052452
I played it for the first time today and seeing Noelle's face of pure bliss as she starts to enjoy Kris' dominance is just so... tragic? erotic? romantic? insane? There is a point though where you take it too far.
Toby Fox is making some shit that's never been done before. Making me care this much for a weird masochistic reindeer girl that likes creepypastas and bad jokes.

Ralsei being forced to fuck fem!Kris and he doesn't like it!

>>714052643
My heart

>>714052643
HNNGG

>>714052671
Do you have the Susie version in high quality?

>>714052358
He's probably just fucking with us. He does the weird zombie walk even before he rips you out at the end of chapter 1.

apol

>>714052148
CAN'T KEEP US IN HERE FOREVER KRIS WE'RE GONNA BE BEATING THE EVERLIVING CRAP OUT OF YOUR DAD IN THE NEXT 6-18 MONTHS!

>>714052643
Post the second part you fucking son of a bitch

>>714052659
This is what I imagine being a Homestuck fan is like.
Everything I see about that series makes me go "That looks cringe and stupid. I know I'd love it though."

>>714052696
>It should have been Susie!

>>714052148

>>714052659
Yes, and I’m enjoying the hell out of it.

>>714052643
don't post the second part I can't bare to see it again

>>714052721
No, but I have Susie driving a car meme.

>>714052696
>>714052780
ralsei being forced to knock up kris because she lost a bet with susie about who has to carry the child

Me and Kris will become friends

>>714051312
Unironically this is why I've started growing superficial attachments and attractions to Darkners instead. It's easier to get horny over the simplistic prissiness of a Miss Mizzle

>>714052784

>>714052148

>>714052659
If we ARE retarded, then at least we're all retarded together
Also I call dibs on the blue crayons, those taste the best

>>714052659
I'm tired of being a genius

>she's going to become the villain
>she's going to drop the act and go psycho
>she's going to die
>she's going to replace Susie
>she's going to replace Ralsei
How much is she going to suffer?

>>714052767
>>714052818
what is it??

>>714052481
It is actually what love looks like. It's when two people are clearly acting in their natural way with no obvious concern about what the other thinks because it's also completely natural to them too.

It's why dancing (or lack of dancing) is a sign of love - because it is a physical sign of synchronization.

>>714052772
>>714052803
>>714052872
HELL YEAH

>>714052107
She still received it, don't worry
It's just a matter of when it'll show up again, maybe a future room for her or somewhere else

>>714052772
just wait until the time shenanigans start
it's gonna get so much stupider

>>714052148

>>714052424
Jackenstein has yet to be taken out of the closet in the church, and there was no excess spooky decorations or leftover candy, so Halloween has not come and gone, yet.
None of the trees are brown and the streets are not full of leaves of pine needles.
The Christmas decorations on city hall might as well be up year-round considering the mayor is Carol.

Mid October, perhaps?
>or toby made a world with only 6 months, and we're entirely off the mark

>>714052887
she's done for

>>714052887
she is going to lose it and it going to be glorius

>>714052868
The potential of Deltarune's premise is not actualized until we can open a dark world in Chris' room

>>714052148

>>714052696

>>714052671
https://x.com/ImagesDeltarune/status/1930002605763449204

>>714052991
>Can't shit

One more shitpost before bed, gn you fags

>>714051547
I expected that to be the dying animation

>>714052452
The fact that this girl was brought to tears at hearing the voice of Kris again made me jump ships.
Susie may have more cute moments, but Noelle has so much emotion is unreal.

>>714053018
>Those little niggas think they're getting purified
Cute.
Anyways, Black Shard time

>>714052850
>Toby drops the merest hint that Dess and Asriel were together before her disappearance
>The fandom's already creating pure ludokino of them
And you tards say Toby hates straight ships.

>>714052148
,

LET'S MAKE A DEAL

>>714053026
>>714052721
Lol, nice.

>>714052297
Man. I've never been a shipfag, but there's something about Kris and Susie...

>>714052148

>>714052891
cinematic parallels

>>714046227
What about this then

>>714051339

>>714052148

>>714053175
Little kids are fucking stupid

>>714053026
>>714053126
Amazing, thanks

Still the best boss theme
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cfxTZ0aw6iY

>>714053149
there's another part that's way worse

>>714052148
https://files.catbox.moe/zjsab5.mp4

>>714052358
When we look elsewhere in the Dark World we're definitely still connected to Kris, you can even see the SOUL flying in from offscreen and going back to Kris sometimes. The SOUL can move more freely and seemingly has greater powers in the Dark World.
From what we learn in Chapter 4, it seems like Kris being possessed is part of the plan and the voice on the phone implies that Kris specifically needs us for Dark World stuff. They move and act strangely but they don't seem to be actually physically impaired without us, they can move very quickly and accurately hit us with shit from across the room. Chapter 4 ending with us in the bird cage again while Kris is trying to sleep, and seemingly about to jump out the window without us, also implies that Kris takes us out at night regularly (assuming we've been possessing them for more than these 3 days) and doesn't seem to be any worse off for it.
The only other example we have of a soulless vessel animated by Determination alone is Flowey in Undertale. Flowey was brought to life by a one-time injection of Determination and doesn't seem to have "used it up" like fuel over countless resets, so it seems like Determination doesn't work like that and you can just stay alive for as long as you have the will to live. Kris's main reason to keep us in outside of the Dark World is probably just to keep us/their situation hidden from Susie and Noelle.

>>714053149
There's another part where Kris abuses him.

>>714052148

>>714053149
>>714052643
Fucking love this artist's work.

>>714052148

>>714053259
>Listen to the song and love it
>Forget it exists for a week
>Hear it again, fall in love all over again as soon as the don't forget motif enters
I think don't forget is just such a good song it makes everything containing it top tier

>>714053202
>I dunno, Kris. There's something kind of suspicious about Noelle's secret cousin. Like, why would she introduce us if it's a secret? What's her angle...

>>714053175
>physical evidence you see with your own eyes
>some dipshit kid
What should you believe?

>>714052148
https://x.com/MerothIsHere/status/1936599219315589572

>>714053175
I think he's just retarded

>>714046054
to be fair, knight is already vergil, what with all the summon swords and screen-cutting jigenzans

>>714053420
i really hope we get to see tenna in chapter 5, the man really grew on me

Krusiebros I know it's a bit early but fuck it
We won

>>714052148

>>714053259
Wrong link bro.

>https://youtube.com/watch?v=QZ8A63GHLvY

>>714053259
I will only agree to this statement because the Titan's final theme is just Gerson's with another chord, is is disqualified.

>>714052148
'

>>714053465
>gave him away

I feel stupid but I think for all my thoughts that Rudy is the knight I just came to the conclusion that the Knight actually is Dess. Or rather, a Darkner formed in her image through obsessive searching that gave it purpose and form, and is treated like a stand-in while their daughter is actually still gone.

>>714053470
Toby literally said so.

>>714053470
No, Toby wins. HE gets to fuck Susie.

>>714053354
It's pretty clear that it's kris resisting the player trying to break them up, especially in the followup pics
Unless you're talking about some other comic

>Meanwhile, Azzy in college:

>>714053565
Hey, at least you've made both Tenna and Mettaton happy

>>714053565
At least you don't have to see him hang himself in chapter 5.

>>714052148

>>714047294
this ᠏᠏ ᠏ ᠏ ᠏᠏ ᠏FALSE DICHOTOMY is PISSING me off
fight as ᠏Starwalker ᠏

>>714053483
That is an impressive amount of youtubepoop levels of autism.
I love it.

>>714048380
Asgore's both really hung up on Toriel and, even after almost everybody else abandoned him, best bros with Rudy. I don't see it.

>>714044997
>>714050061
You thought "deltatroon" was a joke term?

>>714053668
What is it with goats and humans?

>>714046489
It's gonna be like Asgore in Undertale, where they're technically trying to do the right thing, but it involves something that you just can't abide with. There's no way to compromise between Frisk and Asgore--Asgore needs the SOUL to break the barrier, and Frisk needs to go home. I imagine we'll get a similar conflict between Kris and Susie, or even Kris and us.

>>714053565
If you keep him, he asks when he's leaving.
Tenna wants to be a TV and be watched, not a darkner.

>>714051361
the implication of "using her up" should be pretty clear

>>714044312 (OP)
I was listening to the Shrek The Third Video Game ost when this happened so while Ralsei and Susie were saddened about the prophesy I was just hearing this
https://youtu.be/jwS_8GO7SMM?si=tLCQG-mSB6v6ttkJ

>>714053701
Une vie à rêver...

>>714053604
>>714053354
Speaking of which, why the hell is the "Good, keep smiling" line even an option from Kris. He doesn't even try to change how it's said, just let's it flow out.

>>714053795
The guy who made it made one of Hammer of Justice too, if you didn't know

You'd think that Toby nailing and hammering down how pathetic it is for Asgore to be desperately pleading to his ex-wife to be reunited and go back to how things were in the past, would make people understand that kriselle is a delusional ship, but here we are.

>>714053470
you jinxed it

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S0D0qKk3SEM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GconqBHsQDs
When are we getting the full flashback?

>>714053912
He's an autist who didn't grasp the implications of what he just said until it was too late.

>>714053870
I said permanently, as in she dies no matter what route you go

>>714053912
japanese cultural "Grin and bear it" bullshit

>>714053969
Oh, so like half of the anons who pick that option

>>714053962
Also, why is GALLERY a part of the prophecy?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S0D0qKk3SEM

>>714053962
chapter 0

>>714053912
if tenna is anything to use as a guide, kris is deeply traumatized but he refuse to express it

>>714054018
Well there was a gallery, wasn't there?
Boom, prophecy fulfilled

>>714053962
>When are we getting the full flashback?
What if that's it? What if we have a flashback sequence where we possess kid Kris, and for us we already know everything but kid Kris is confused and scared as fuck and that's how the birdcage comes to play.

>>714045547
Susie's gonna crash out hard when she finds out the truth about Kris/(You).

>>714050116
Would be kino

>>714053795
The custom lyrics are pure ludo.

>>714054118
I'm worried she's gonna assume (We) are the bad guy and responsible for Kris's bullshit

>>714050236
Antlers get stuck in the handle

how the fuck does the youtube upload of big shot have >38,000,000 views? that's unhinged. that's like undertale level.

>>714054118
Hence, "The Dragon"

>>714053918
I wanted to call bullshit, so I did a quick bit of research, and found no corroboration.
So, I'm calling bullshit, but am willing me be proven wrong.

>>714054190
I’m a genocide enjoyer, of course i am

>>714054018
It triggers my autism that gallery didn't play before Tenna's fight

>>714054197
deltarune is BIG, anon. Not quite undertale level yet but very near it, will likely eclipse it at this rate.

>>714054205
Nigga it's like the 5th most recent video on his channel.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=e0zItV_-b84

>>714054205
>>714050843

>>714054254
is it? nothing else seems to be getting that level of attention, it's just BIG SHOT.
i guess spamton's dreams really did come true.

>>714054067
>Picking "It's ok not to smile" was giving both Kris and Ralsei a greenlight to let it out
Jesus christ

I'll post this in a dying thread but these threads lately have been a much needed reminder of why I even come here in the first place, after basically abandoning the site for years. I know they'll die down eventually and I'll return for chapter 5 but thank you all for actually making posting fun again. I don't know the last time I stayed up just to hang out in a thread and listen to music.

>>714054010
Tee hee

>>714054384
To kill a mocking bird page 37

>>714054309
a lot of people refuse to play the game until it releases complete, which is understandable.

Everyone who plays it in Japanese pick the "keep smiling" option so that's the correct choice

>>714054197
spamton was giga popular and big shot was a massive part of that
it's the most hype track in the game, i like the new songs in 3 & 4 but none of them got you pumped like big shot

>>714053931
Anon, Noelle is the one showing interest in Kris

>>714052001
Even the fucking town hall has Christmas decor

>>714054384
I feel the same way anon, lot of people talking together with genuine interest always brings out the best in this place

>>714054286
>>714054285
OOOOOhhhhhh.
I thought you meant he made the original.
Consider me is an retarded.

I am just very tired. Went to a wedding this weekend and got all of five hours of sleep over two nights. I'm trying to stay away until a normal bedding hour to reset my internal clock.

>>714054537
It was enough to make me finally get off my ass and start learning game maker.

Protect the doe.
>>714053081
One of us.

>>714052297
Chris is strong enough in the normal word to carry Susie in the air by her legs
Damn

>>714050363
That's probably the best-case ending for him dude

>>714054578
how easy is it for a non-progammer?

>>714054484
its just so disproportionate. it's like triple the popularity of the next biggest thing about the game. the entirety of deltarune may amount to nothing more than a vehicle for spamton at the end of the day.

>>714054537
>genuine interest
Also genuine autism. Can't forget that.

>>714054384
Same, anon. These threads have been fun as hell.

>>714054384
they've been fun, yeah. weirdly enough they were fucking terrible the day of release though.

>>714051015
>Aww what a cute little boy you two have!
>What's his name?
CucksU2

>>714050979
Could this universe's Alphys? She was way out of her depth in UT but she was still a scientist. Here she's just a schoolteacher.

>>714054645
Honestly not that bad. The only coding I've done before was the start of the Odin project years ago.

It's pretty retard proof. Toby was able to use it after all. I've just been doing the tutorials provided with the templates that come with the engine. Then taking what I learn and applying it to a custom demo I'm making myself.

>>714054778
If she worked at it she could. Might cause the roaring in the process but I'm confident she'll figure it out eventually.

>>714054748
The better posters were playing the game

>>714051312
Honestly I can't find either the UT or HR characters sexual for the same reason. Never could.

>>714053912
Intrusive thoughts.

>>714054384
it is a comforting reminder that no matter how far we go, we continue to cross roads with each other. for better or worse, this little digital spirit we've been sharing mattered, even among the quietest. cheers, anons.

all rise

I'm going to post the FOREBODEN screencap!

>>714054778
>she was still a scientist
She inherited the entire lab and the soul research from the previous Royal Scientist, her only accomplishment was hammering together a metal body for Happstablook

>>714055059
Also turning a bunch of dead people into horrific amalgamations and keeping them locked up in a lab for years out of fear of people finding out - even though their family members would have just been happy to have their loved ones back.

>>714054856
noted, I'm at the point in life where I'm approaching more things like this as a hobby, which weirdly makes them easier to learn and enjoy. Thanks.

>>714054384
The only thing that made 4chan magical was the sense that the people CARED about what they were talking about - good or bad it didn't matter they cared. The problem is that at some point people who started coming here cared less and some people cared too much and would shitpost and sycophant just for attention.

Deltarune should be one of those toxic fucking general threads - it is a general thread here on /v/ but it invites none of the fucking cancer that you see in generals (yet). I mean there is someone here dedicated to making it impossible to talk about Mother 3 - a thing that once had the same feeling as the Deltarune threads now. It really defies the stereotype that the furries were the worst people on the Internet because they wouldn't shut the fuck up about their sick fetishes. And it's just completely strange that Deltarune somehow avoids attracting all the worst elements of the Internet and 4chan.

I think it's because Deltarune has enough complexity that it demands people care and the damaged pieces of shit ultimately can't care enough.

>>714055037

Kriselle incels are delusional self-inserters and you won't ever convince me otherwise
Just move on from your childhood crush already

>>714052424
I think it's more like late September-early October

>>714055037
I'VE GOT [Hyperlink blocked] IN MY BRAIN

>>714055249
I literally walked to her old house after not speaking to her for a decade. Just staring through the windows even though I'm pretty sure she doesn't live there anymore.

Fuck you.

>>714055249
I didn't believe kriselle was possible at first, but the couch scene during snowgrave is pretty telling of her feelings.

>>714055249
What if I ship them because they'd make for an inherently toxic relationship, since their respective sadism/masochism kinks would feed into each other until everything inevitably went down like the Hindenberg?

>>714055249
i didn't have a childhood crush, now what

>>714052959
The Weird Time Shit was peak Homestuck and if Toby can replicate it (either in DR or in some hypothetical future game) I'll fucking kneel

>>714055204
4chan is/was a hobby board, for people with some level of passion about their hobby, whatever it was. The worst cancer infecting the site are people whose "hobby" has become 4chan itself, to create shitposts and drama purely for the sake of posting about shitposts and drama.

>>714055249
She moved to another country
I wonder why a blonde rich girl was in a third world country to begin with
Or why she was friends when me when we were little

>>714052659
>>714052772
>>714052803
>>714052872
>>714052883
As I come up on my 30th birthday I think my resolution for the next decade of my life is to get way more cringe.

>>714054969
>that image
Oh my absolute fuck, I did not expect that when I moused over it.

Chess theory still lives!

>>714055249
>delusional
It's right there in the game, anon

>>714053202
.this is my cousiN
doesn't she looK
.almost exactly like the knighT?

>>714055449
That's right, people do get off on fucking with people and that's ultimately what kills any Internet space when you can't remove those people. When you go to public forums and you see people who just start shit about everything I seriously wonder if those people are just the same as 4chan people but who go out in public. I seriously wish I can see what kind of lives these people live who shitpost incessantly just to fuck with randoms on the Internet just to see how much power they hold in their lives and if they use what little power they do have to fuck with people in real life just like they use their disproportionate power to fuck with people on the Internet.

>>714055526
wouldn’t titan be tower?

>2026

>>714055526
The titan resembles a rook.

>>714055693
WAIT

>>714055604
No, it isn't. Noelle saw Kris like a brother that went away after. It's just part of growing up. Stop making excuses and accept there's no longer anything going on between them.

>>714055693
better than the 2028-9 like we thought it'd be

>>714055249
Noelle reminds me a fair amount of my gf, but honestly I don't see Kriselle happening. Ralsusie on the other hand...

>>714055678
>>714055726
Speaking seriously, Titan was Bishop.

>>714055204
I think you hit the nail on the head - it's genuinely too complicated to successfully derail without understanding a stupid amount of information, an amount you'd only have if you loved the game.
>CAPTCHA: AJKYS

>>714055756
>posts proof
>uuhhh no, there's no proof haha never ever STOP LOOKING AT IT
what kind of mental illness is this

>>714051130
name one straight character

>>714051935
My heart.

>>714056034
toriel

>>714056034
Sans

>>714055886
many games, really. a lot of different things you'd have to have been around for or have learned about in one way or another.

>>714056034
Carol

I wish Ralsei was a girl

I love Tenna

>>714055204
Most of these threads can be boiled down into a mix of shipping wars and theory schizos, but I do like how even the shitposting requires some kind of inside knowledge to get the jokes in these threads. You get occasional niggers popping in saying the game is gay retarded woke shit but they get drowned out or leave quick cause somehow we even turn shit like Kris's pronouns into a full discussion. Some call it retarded but I like the passion these threads have about the game

>>714056227
same, I also wish Kris was confirmed a girl. I like my "3 chicks in a team" dynamic okay.

>>714049056
>right?
she's used to bleeding. another monster asks kris what it's like to have blood in town.

>>714053931
The difference between Asgore/Toriel and Kris/Noelle is that the longing in the second one is reciprocal.

>>714056405
>Krissi
>Susie
>Ralsie
>Noelle
>Queenie
Fuck, the Berdly chad shitposting would become real, and it would be awful.

>>714056227
Don't worry, you can still impregnate him.

Berdly was essentially written out of the story to avoid any big complications between the normal and the weird route at this point in time.

>>714054018
I dont get what the fuck is that thing on the center. Is it meant to be a person?

Mancountry is a Jojo part 7 reference
ERAM's statement about Kris's eyes is a Jojo part 7 reference
Kris is Johnny Joestar

>>714056670
elaborate for those of us that don't know shit about jojo

>>714056670
>>714056796
NTA and I haven't read Part 7 yet, but:
>Mancountry = True Man's World
>ERAM's statement about Kris's eyes flickering is the same idea of "dark determination" in Jojo Part 7

>>714053259
I don't agree but I respect your beliefs.

>>714053446
>question mark
susie is stupid as fuck, dude.

If monsters fall down and turn to dust in Deltarune, does their blood just explode onto the floor too

>>714057072
I'll be honest seeing how bad she was at spelling made me way sadder than I expected.

>>714053830
I unironically really want to find out what's going on with the other humans in DR's world. Given that there's things like the library book on raising them it seems like there are more out there and we see Kris has a lot of angst about being associated with them but I really want to know what the deal is

>>714053483
Kino, sovl, etc

>>714056227
ralsei needs to be a boy so kris and susie have someone that can impregnate them

>>714054384
UT/DR threads are literally the only fun I've had on /v/ in a decade.

>>714044312 (OP)
>OP got spoilered by a janny
Huh?

>>714056670
Gaster is Jesus

>>714057417
either janny had a turn of heart and doesn't want people to get spoilered or he's trying to hide the thread by hiding the deltarune image