Chapter 3 grew on me

https://youtu.be/kScDdlhORBw

It got a friend in me indeed

Same. My heart fucking plummeted the first time Tenna showed up, basically thinking "Oh no, an entire chapter of this?" And zelda segments were really off-putting, especially how you weren't able to save at all during them.

But Tenna grew on me, ended up liking him way more than Mettaton. And the character switcheroo with the second Zelda segment along all the creepy Ramb stuff ended up making the Zelda segments work as well.

>>712947325
Creepy Ramb stuff?

I liked it

>>712947464
KEK

I used right click like a normal person, but what in the world was the intent behind using the microphone in the Mike fight? Were you supposed to be singing? Babbling incomprehensibly? Smacking your table?
Is this just some streamer bait I'm not getting?

>>712947464
Does that mean there are jews in Deltarune world?

>>712947464
i just know that lil fucker got his default face on

Got too many cringey Amazing Digital Circus vibes from ch. 3. Lanino and Elnina were the only good things that came out of it.

>>712947586
I just went lalalalala and it worked

>>712947325
I found Tenna funny and endearing from the start and I had fun during the rounds.
The part that put me off was having to restart the entire chapter because I only got S on board 2, even though they told you not to worry about the ranks.
The mantle boss fight was far from my favorite, and the knight kicked my ass.
The Tenna fight was really fun.

>>712947650
The designs for Lanino and Elnina looked kind of out of place.

>>712947592
A boss is literally called Jackenstein.

>>712947464
Gets me every fucking time

>ralsei when he finally locks in

>>712947732
guest art curse

>>712947732
They were guest art, but much better than the ones in chapter 2

OH KRIS
KRIS, KRIS,
YOU'VE BEEN A GOOD VEHICLE, AND I'VE ENJOYED THE RIDE, BUT NOW HE'S WEAK AND FULL OF HOLES
IT'S ALMOST NEARLY TIME TO SHUFFLE OFF TO BUFFALO!

AH, KRIS IS A BABE IN THE WOODS
WITH A LARGE HOLE WHERE HIS CONSCIENCE USED TO BE
AND WHEN I GO, CHILDREN, I WILL PULL THAT RIPCORD!
AND YOU WATCH KRIS, REMEMBER, WATCH HIM!
BUT NOT FOR LONG...

>>712945331 (OP)
I'm glad luv'
>>712946790
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7f1RK1m7qvc

>>712947810
>>712947857
Who were the guest art characters from the other chapters?

>>712945331 (OP)
What was his problem

>>712947901
The DJs robots

>>712947715
>A hammer is a sword
It's called Justice Axe you fucking moron lmao
>>712947738
Tell me what this symbol is on Susie's floor please

>>712947901
Chapter 2 were that one trio of robots.
Chapter 1, technically King and Lancer.

Didn't the same person that made Sweet Capn Cakes make Elnina and Lanino? Talk about a glow up. Those two were so fucking funny.

>>712947759
Clearly it's supposed to be Jackenstein's Monster.

>>712947586
You just make sound??? Do you have a voice?

>>712947325
I didn't really like Tenna until you were given the option to say "he sucks", then everything clicked
Regardless 3 > 4

Tenna is just such a sad character to me. He feels like a mirror of Kris, a poor little boy in fear of being left behind by everyone, but incapable of doing anything to help himself. It almost makes it nice to imagine having a SOUL. Having someone to get you out of bed and do the things you're too afraid or mopey to do. Wouldn't that be nice?

>>712945331 (OP)
I can't believe tony fucks made me feel bad for not using my tv, that aside I stand by the zelda segments dragging a little but they aren't too bad, ch1 had a lot of slow points of its own anyways

>stuck scrubbing toilets for the woman keeping you from losing your business and becoming homeless, all the while your ex-wife who you still love is fucking the local skeleton
Why is Asgore such a bitch? Do you think chapter 5 will redeem him?

Biggest sin was TV World Theme not being used as the battle theme like it was with Pandora's Castle

>>712947586
weowomweowomweowomweowom

Were you happy Susiezilla made it in? Were you disappointed she didn't actually grow gigantic?

>>712947586
ahhhhhAAAAAAAAAH...
oooooOOOOOHHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHahhh..
like a fucking retard

>>712947429
>he doesn't know about the ramb rape scene

if you were to open a dark fountain in a therapist's office, would it result in a therapy world for these kids to get some help, or would all of the objects just be traumatised from everyone talking about their problem

>>712947759
YOUR NOSE TOO LONG

>>712945331 (OP)
>four swords adventure was my childhood so i immediately click with the zelda segments
>actually theres weird route style zelda segments too
>tenna is fucking based and btfo'd all the fan designs
>minigames are fun, first try everything with an S-rank except the susie minigame fuck you toby
>my nigga ramb
>is the "last hurrah" for goofy chapters, tons of gags and rouxls is at his greatest
>an actual very difficult deltarune fight right at the very end, which will probably need to be done without doing MANTLE for the true ending
It was pretty polarizing to see the threads actually hated it kek

>>712948008
The family's fighting again...

>>712945331 (OP)
I already thought Chapter 3 was fun but the discussions getting into the nature behind everything made me appreciate it more

>>712948083
ehhh it was cuter this way imo

>>712948160
And it's all my fault, again.

>>712948143
Both

>>712947464
If 9/11 happened in deltarune world, comparatively how many monsters to humans died in it?
Where the terrorists humans? Were they monsters?
What's the geopolitical make up of the DR world?

>>712948143
It would be your own perspective on the therapy and therapists office. Tenna was entirely shaped by Kris's family life and kept bringing up everything about him including 20 divorce jabs.

>>712945331 (OP)
I didnt expect to like Tenna as much as I did honestly, I gave him away to Mettaton because it felt like the right thing to do but I miss him already

I don't want to wait another year...

>>712947914
he had the purest, most honest love for kris a darkner could have

>>712947957
There were other ch1 characters from the same card designs.
My favorite guest characters by chapter are 1>3>2
Does chapter 4 have anything like these?

>>712948083
I love how she doesn't give a damn how stupid/cute her costume looks.

I love how it's green even though a purple costume could have worked.

I love how the minigame is unironically fun.

>>712947901
the artist for lanino and elnina also did tasque manager

anyone else find the gerson fight a little underwhelming? I got it on my second try just because the diagonals and shells caught me by surprise the first time around. I can't tell if it's just because the knight was so demanding though

>>712948250
You'll be waiting 3 more years after that for 6+7 and then one more year for Chapter 0

>>712948020
>Do you think chapter 5 will redeem him?
It will make him worse

>>712947586
Wait you could just right click? So I made weird moaning sounds in the middle of the night for my roommates to hear for nothing???

>>712947523
This cute comic is so utterly ruined by the ugly ass irl pic in the second panel. WHY is that there?!
It's a fucking travesty

>>712948367
You would have done that anyways bro.

What will the ramifications of the SnowGrave route be now that Carol gave us the greenlight to fuck her daughter?

>>712948317
My friend who did the knight without the mantle said Gerson is harder, which I think is bullshit
I wish toby gave us a "serious" gerson fight, something like how Spamton is a solo fight on the weird route
Solo kris vs serious gerson wouldve been kino, the end of the gerson fight feels like hes just getting started (purple shells)

>>712948020
Chapter 5 will see him finally accept that his wife isn't taking him back and spiral into an even more destructive depression no longer held up by delusion

Chapter 6 will redeem him

>>712947586
I was just screaming like a retard one time

>>712948083
I'm more disappointed that we didn't get to play it in a board, but I get it. Chapter 3's honestly pretty quick to do on replays but on a first time playthrough three boards would be pretty draining. but hey it's playable regardless so it's alright

>>712948083
kek

>>712945331 (OP)
>No Suselle.
This is the thread. And agreed, it's better than the overrated melodrama of 4.

>>712947663
>>712947983
>>712948063
>>712948113
>>712948367
>>712948476
>>712947586
Just breath into it retards
No need to humiliate yourself

>>712948445
honestly I feel like he would've been more fun if he did more damage and you had your full party, with the whole star damage reduction mechanic you can just facetank half of his attacks without losing

>>712948442
What will the rambifications be?

>>712948020
He will completely fuck over Kris/Knight with his black shard plan, and the plan will fail regardless, causing him to attempt to kill himself in his own shop, where we open a fountain to counteract the fire

Tenna, my sweet sweet mentally ill meow meow,

>>712948535
w-who was watching

>>712948573
>>712945331 (OP)
Why is he called Ramb? I don't get the pun.

>>712948513
Four is good twice (1 normal and 1 snowgrave) and then after that the only part I care about is Jackenstein (and maybe trying some different dialogue options or checking things in town I missed)

>>712948442
>Kris and Noelle both mentally broken
Idk someone is gonna die probably

>>712948494
this kind of happened

>>712947586
Since you are playing with cats, you should meow at it.

why is the fanart both extra quality and extra shitposty this time around?
I'm not complaining

>>712948390
because it's a REFERENCE? GET IT? No you NEED TO get it or else its not funny so I'm going to include the reference material alongside the reference so no one is left out even though if you weren't previously familiar with the reference material then learning of it at the same time as the reference adds nothing since the humor comes from it being a reference to something else you know not a "hey look at this"

>>712948490
there was actually a full third board planned that was supposed to end with suziezilla, got cut very late in development for pacing reasons
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rDbdFVZLpgI

So what's the deal with knigt's x-slash? Its red, as are most of its sword attacks. Yet the attack that downs Susie and Ralsei is white. It could be Kris's x-slash, but his is blue. To add further to this, if you equip the black shard to Kris, his attacks become red.

What does it all mean?

>>712948617
Gaster will replay your retard noises back at you in ch 5

>>712948445
>Solo kris vs serious gerson wouldve been kino
It wouldn't have made sense story wise. His entire purpose is to help Susie grow and develop her healing ability. Of course you can just easily remedy this by having him ask Kris "Hey you want training too?" or something.

>>712948617
Me.

>>712948442
Noelle is gonna freeze Kris's arms so he can't rip the soul out and kill it

>>712948716
>What does it all mean?
nothing

>>712948716

>>712948513
>it's better than the overrated melodrama of 4.
>obnoxious ritualposting avatartranny has a dogshit opinion
classic
https://arch.b4k.dev/v/search/filename/1000026994.jpg

>>712948623
Yeah I'm wondering this as well. Do you even pronounce the b?

>>712948708
Yeah, thats why I said I get three boards would be pretty taxing on a first playthrough. Should've made it optional on a repeat playthrough honestly

>>712947586
You can right click?

>>712948019
The main thing that annoyed me about the zelda segments was that you couldn't save for like over an hour.

>>712948796
lol2knight

>>712947797
Only the weak cannot see beauty in such a face.

>>712948904
yeah the lack of saving was taxing, at least it's more like 20-30 minutes on a replay

>>712947586
Applause.

>>712948367
>>712948894
Yes in the device settings you can set it to right click or B on a controller. Says not recommended but it's not difficult.

Don't forget to openly mock anyone still calling it the Snowgrave route when there is literally a line in the game where they reference that you're on the "Weird route"

Sans... no...

>>712948020
We WILL get the six souled (flowers) Asgore fight we were promised.
https://youtu.be/MHa5zpS_Cg0?si=CvuPnDISre7NIMjD

>>712948796
explain

>>712948605
I LOVE TV!

KILL A DOE TONIGHT

>>712945331 (OP)
I was 90% sure this dude was a woman
A guy calling anyone "luv" is pretty weird

>>712948239
>I gave him away to Mettaton because it felt like the right thing to do but I miss him already
Same. I'm glad he is happy that someone gets enjoyment out of watching him.

>>712948794
Its gotta mean something. Toby wouldn't have gone out of his way to change the attack color when you equip the shard if slash color meant nothing.

>>712948623
The ears make him look like a little ramb.
And considering the whole romb/ramb thing from the Sweepstakes, it's probably just a joke about RAM/ROM.

>>712948994
a fight with photoshop flowey-style graphics and deltarune's level of polish would be fucking insane I hope we get something like that eventually

>>712948983
>changes the store sign to "closed" once toriel gets in
that store is going to stink of goatpussy tomorrow

>>712948083
Disappointed it was an optional minigame.

>>712948020
I have zero faith, there's no way he's putting hands on the fun gang. At most, he'll have a temper tantrum and make a dark world, then mope for the rest of the chapter.

>>712949053
he's just a friendly british plug barman

>>712948083
>blatant fetish art

>>712948816
I think he's overstating things a bit, but the melodrama really did drag down chapter 4.

>>712949053
He's bri'ish bro be nice

>>712948605
Wow, so cute! Did you make it or is it from twitter or something?

>>712948494
>Susie absorbing a human soul to fight the Angel

Im 100% convinced the ending is Susie vs Noelle with (You) inhabiting Susie in regular route and Noelle in Weird route.

>>712948969
Since we got weird route from how it was referred to in the files, what was the true name for the genocide route back in UT?

>>712948317
Yes. He was also disappointing. I had a feeling of "that's it?" When I finished it.

>>712948605
>female hand
Please report this post

>>712948716
the theory I've arrived at from deliberating on it since is that the knight is a darkner, but one that isn't necessarily tied to an object akin to ralsei, the slashes (and person carrying undyne away in the light world after the knight swooped her out) was carol

>>712948997
During the Knight fight Kris has feelings of something behind them, and being surrounded.
This could explain that a Third Entity made the white slash that came from Kris's direction and took out the party.

>>712948390
Now there's weird negative space in this image

>>712949279
dude my hands look like that lol what about it is so distinctly female

>>712947586
FIRE FIRE FIRE FIRE FIRE FIRE

>>712948969
bet you call the genocide route the no mercy route too faggot
get snowgraved

>>712948317
>gerson fight
how did i miss that whole sequence? i only remember fighting the armor

>>712948605
Please post the pattern you used to make him

>>712949291
>turd entity
Oblivion theory is dead. Let it go.

>>712949427
you did, you forgot about the golden piano

>when you play mother 3’s love theme

>>712948969
I don't care, snowgrave sounds cooler

>>712949312
no u

>>712949427
he has a mural above his fireplace in the study, read it and follow along

>>712949427
Did you do the golden piano quest

>>712949353
Too clean.

>>712949126
>>712949193
I'm british wankers

>>712949427
You need to backtrack in the first part after you get the climbing gear to get the axe

>>712948983
https://rave.dj/C3Ec0M4ZelwzVQ

Wait the guy at the front desk and the guy at the back in Chapter 3 were the same person?

>>712949472
BRAVO TOBIAS

>>712949353
cute hands faggot I wanna hold them

>>712949453
>Oblivion theory
what was that about?

>>712949472
chat is this real?

>>712945331 (OP)
I don't feel like it has as many memorable moments or tracks as the previous two chapters.

>>712949472
What the fuck I never even considered playing that

>>712948625
Agreed. The world feels so dead with only Gerson, the cups and Jackstein as NPCs. It's like Toby gave up on the world for the lore.
>>712948816
>No argument.
Seethe, proto-janny. 4 isn't that good.

>>712949269
If we go by how calling it the Snowgrave route spoils a thing for going that route, you could call it the Megalovania route or the You fight Sans at the end oops hopes you didn't want that spoiled tee hee I'm so smart for being terminally online and spoiling a thing for you route

>>712949353
The lighting and the background looks exactly like what a girl would use for her photos.

Ramb should've called Kris guv instead of luv

>>712949565
Something something Knight being your Vessel something something causing the roaring when you don't want to play anymore something

>>712948083
I hope we get some good porn from it. Girls wearing onesie/pajamas are hot

>>712948020
>stuck scrubbing toilets
he was gardening, he just took a piss break

>>712949736
I think Spamtenna is taking up the majority of that porn. I swear it's like crack the way its been hitting the streets, can hardly go a minute without seeing it when looking for Deltarune stuff online

>>712949472

>>712945331 (OP)
I've kind of warmed up to Tenna over time but that still doesn't change the fact that ch3 is, in my opinion, the weakest chapter so far in the game. My main issue is that barely anything noteworthy happens. In ch1 we got introduced to the main cast. In ch2 we got berdly and noelle and learned about dess and the roaring. The fuck happens in chapter 3? It just feels like filler. The knight fight honestly woke me up just because it's the one moment in the entire part that's actually integral to the plot.

I would rank the chapters like this: ch2>ch4=ch1>ch3

>>712949627
>only Gerson, the cups and Jackstein as NPCs.
Bro? Your Wafers? Your Organikks?? Your Wicabel and Bibliox??? Gerson's Gueis???? Your Balthizard????? The fire extinguisher???????

>>712948083
i loved how she was still having the time of her life even though it was really silly and cute

Well I finally beat Chapter 4. Still haven't done any weird route though, I'll save that until Chapter 5 is close to release. I have too many questions...

>>712949726
is gaster (and sort of the vessel by extension) even really an antagonist? He's literally rooting for you in the knight fight

>>712949865
They're just enemies. Although I did forget the green guys and the organs. My mistake. It still pales to the NPCs in previous chapters, though.

>>712949646
>yangus va for ramb
cant unhear it now

so what were these dudes? what does popcorn have to do with the church?

>>712948716
The white strike is from the True Knife

>>712949606
Now try super mario bros

>>712950049
Probably censers.

>>712949472
what are we some kind of deltarune?

>>712950091
Why are they in the church instead of tv world?

>>712950049
they're incense burners, there's one hanging in alvin's office

>>712948605
At least this isn't as mentally fucked as the Spamtotem

>>712950137
i mean its not cinema world

made a simple schizographic for my fellow freedom enjoyers

>>712950137
Tenna was making sure they wouldn't kill him

>>712945331 (OP)
The silly chapters are absolutely necessary to pace out the heavier ones. Notice that everyone memes about Tenna but almost no one talks about the Titan. Silly things are more memorable and meanigful when they feel like a respite from more serious things. Deltarune or Undertale for that matter absolutely wouldn't work if it didn't have this balance between humor and seriousness. If it was all humor or all serious then you'd adapt and grow numb to it.

>>712950137

>>712949986
>They're just enemies.
Yeah but every dude I mentioned has at least one NPC variant in the chapter. That's gotta mean something right... :(

>>712950049
Those are censers, if you are not christian and don't know what are those its the things used to spread burning incense smoke during mass

justice for my nigga ramb

>>712948605
extremely cute

>>712950137
kek

>>712950223
>Notice that everyone memes about Tenna but almost no one talks about the Titan
because Tenna got a lot of characterization. The titan is basically a setpiece

>>712948445
Knight is easier in the sense that all of her moves have very clear responses other than the sword tunnels. The difficulty comes from have such little margin for error. In terms of hit count Gerson will hit the player many, many more times despite their best play.

>>712948716
It's an attack from the Knight. There's literally no reason to overthink this and I don't know why this in particular is something retards have latched on to.

>>712950320
don't worry we'll palom and porom him trust the plan

>>712949226
>>712949448
Nabbed it from Twitter, donmai https://x.com/ningZzz_/status/1934817772145422732?t=kjHFmX2Fij0seIbPjACetA&s=19

>>712950320
Ramb is stupid and gay and everyone hates him

>>712950137
Sensible chuckle

>>712947957
And pretty much everyone based on playing cards except jevil

>>712950137
CENSERS. FOR INCENSE. NOT CENSORS FOR CENSORSHIP.

>>712950467
more people like ramb than people like pippins

>>712950320
>prepare a videogame for Kris where Mini-Kris kills everyone
>get fucking killed off by Mini-Kris
Karma is a bitch

>[Glass Him]
HOW THE FUCK WAS I SUPPOSED TO KNOW THAT WOULD HAPPEN

>>712950467
guess I gotta nother self insert

>>712950521
Which is the more Kris option

>>712950259
Every enemy in the last chapters had a NPC variant, too. And they had actual NPCs as well.

>>712950406
Swing centers on Kris's position and Ralsei's response to it make no sense for it to be the knight.
Plus you can see Kris giv8ng the knight the sign knight if you do it hitless.

>>712949291
This is an anti-3rd Entity Theory false flag

>>712950575
We only told him to drink, he decided to act all dramatic on his own.

was spamton the only darkner to actually scare kris?

>everyone hyped up Roaring Knight
>beat it first try, just like Gerson
Man.....
Spamton NEO was harder, if only because you couldn't undo damage so easily.

This is probably the wrong game to play if I'm looking for a challenge.

>>712950575
you didn't prompt kris to throw the cup on her feet so

>>712950137
>The Censers are gonna fucking kill me

>>712950632
I can see it, alphys sounds like they would be a terrible teacher to ever have.

>>712950575
Rape Alphys

>>712945331 (OP)
I loved chapter 3, so much I still haven't started 4 cause I've been going for T-ranks and stuff and don't feel ready to say goodbye. Playing it the moment it released knowing next to nothing about it was almost like being a kid on Christmas morning. I think it does a great job being a fun colorful chapter while still having a great atmosphere. Basically I LOVE TV!

>>712950607
So why do Susie and Ralsei never bring up Kris fragging them afterwards?

>>712949285
>the theory I've arrived at from deliberating on it since is that the knight is a darkner,
proven false since the knight can open fountains

>>712950575
considering he goes out of his way to throw the glass on the floor, probably that one

>>712949291
>Kris
It doesn't say Kris, does it, anon?
YOU feel Cornered

>>712950712
susie didn't see it
ralsei did but he is too set on the prophecy/withholding info from susie specifically

>>712950637
>to actually scare kris?
and half the beta testers.

>>712950607
The slash is not centered on Kris' location though?

>>712950712
Susie doesn't see it happen, she goes down first.
And Ralsei has been covering for Unsouled Kris in plenty of instances, why would he suddenly stop?

>>712950406
How is it the knight when the knight went off screen as the ball

>>712950521
>slams the cup on the ground just to rub it in
fucking kek kris is such a little cunt

>>712950223
4 me it's just cause the fight did a really fucking bad job to display the power the narrative wants you to think they have. Not much to talk about when your fight is shorter than Tenna's

CODE NUMBER 2242
COLD, COLDER YET COLDER
THE COERCION KEEPS GROWING
THE THORNS PENETRATING DEEPER
CONSENT READINGS NEGATIVE
THIS NEXT SEXUAL ASSAULT WILL BE
VERY
VERY
INTERESTING
...
WHAT DO (YOU) TWO THINK

>>712948020
least he can do for running over Dess

>>712950880
speed blitzing

>>712950836
It is. Wide swing that circles around Kris.

>>712950637
Seeing a living prelude of what Kris is likely turning into definitely made him have a meltdown, a valid crashout as the kids say these days.

>>712950607
The slash doesn't center on Kris' location. And the signal is just for the Knight to end the fight and quickly deal with Susie and Ralsei.

>>712950215
interdasting

Why was the fire extinguisher code 2202?

>>712950904
One of the two in question

>>712950521
Brat Kris best Kris

>>712950987
yeah, the signal being for kris to btfo the team makes no sense.

>>712951007
that's when the last chapter will be released

>The slash is not Kris
Just watch the scene again and look at Ralsei's reaction for fuck's sake
https://youtu.be/Xa7-FeBuPkA?si=O9lyMJryMWqS8S0q&t=459

>>712948716
dunno but the knight does have one attack that's a white slash

>Good. Keep smiling

It's so over for me...

>>712951020
>STRUGGLING BUILDS CHARACTER

>>712948708
They should've kept it in. Then I would've actually agreed with Susie that the games were going on too long.

>>712951101
gaster is going to call you an utter freak for this and he'll be right.

>>712951101
I'M... DELTRUINED

I want to put my hands around Ralsei's snout and gently yoink him around. Would he like that, or would he be annoyed, or would he be annoyed but pretend to tolerate it?

>>712951101
your number of completion stars will increase the number of star bullets in chapter 7

>>712950653
>>everyone hyped up Roaring Knight
>>beat it first try,
No [you] fucking didn't, liar

>>712950521
Right in front of her students, too. And she just puts up with it like a little bitch. Sad!

>Kris you want a game with choice and freedom don't you?
Then why is the only choice in the game to kill everything?

>>712951178
why? all you have to do is save a file in each slot, you can just do the final boss on each and get the star that way

God the fact that we waited fucking 10 years for Chapters 3 and 4 and we didn't even get like a single proper schizoboss is insane.

We didn't get a secret boss with their own little story.
We didn't get a new corruption route, merely an expansion to Noelle's route.
And the Titan literally was just a normal ass battle, compare that to Queen's or Tenna's final battle.

What a fucking letdown of a game honestly.

What was his fucking problem

>>712951203
he would love it if you told him to keep smiling

>>712951101

>>712951083
I guess the 5-way slash attack and the slash the flying dagger attacks leave behind are also white, not counting the red warning area right before the attack happens.

>>712949472
>play Gaster's theme
>game doesn't crash
Toby forgot him. It's over.

So what did you think chapter 3 and 4 would be before the chapters came out, and did any of your theories about them hold up?

>>712951270
he's just telling it like it is.

>>712950521
Pick it every time.

So this is going to be Omori right? Kris accidentally killed Dess or some shit?
I hope not, I hate omori

>>712950215
>everything about spamton was foreshadowing

>>712951270
Your family is kinda freaky

>>712951251
Every single thing you just listed was unironically a good thing. This release was really heavy on character development for the main 4. Ch4 eschews a fountain ruler entirely so we can focus on the trio. The game needed this building time.
Individual corruption routes would've been unfocused, Noelle is the key.

>>712950637
depends on if mini Kris counts as a darkner or not

>>712951270
he's right. even susie calls your family weird

>>712951348
He's probably since rewritten a lot of things but the similarities so far are still pretty striking.

Do you think Kris likes his dad?

It's still weird that Kris has plans that are probably the opposite of what we want.

Holy shit i just realized
Prophecy talks about gaster, not ralsei
>THE THIRD HERO. THE PRINCE, ALONE IN DEEPEST DARK...
>Alone in the deepest dark
Gaster was in dark so deep photons not only stopped coming, they were negative
Since he was shattered acros time and space he was all alone there
Ralsei is a fraud

>>712950987
>Dumbassery
What makes you think it isn't Kris? You some sort of Kris apologist, hmm? You think he's a good boy despite the fact he's working with people willing to doom the universe?
The dude holds back during the fight. We know he has a weapon up his pants that we can't use. The attack made is unlike any we've seen before, but it's also deliberately framed to look like the knight, but never actually shows it making the strike.
It's Kris. This is a simple technique that you're falling for because you're too thick to realize that the Soulless asshole we're bonded to will 100% betray his allies for his mission.

>>712949986
>>712949627
It's kind of fitting for a church which is normally very empty. You'd expect that kind of quieter atmosphere.

>>712950709
if you like the minigames you'll like what 4 does to castle town (just look up the mike code when you get to the locked door, there's no point in waiting until later)

>>712951348
Back when he said that Omori wasn't known as anything more than a flashy trailer. So unless he had insider info he wasn't talking about plot similarities

>>712950782
>>712950869
this is fanfic-tier cope, seek help immediately

>>712948708
>the quiz questions are zoomer filters regarding the TV
We were robbed of kino

>>712951218
I did, and I wish I didn't.

>>712951381
You can have both.
Chapter 1 and 2 had both.

>>712951096
this gif goes really hard i can't even lie

>>712951413
there's gotta be a reason he stayed with his mom but maybe it's something out of his control

>>712951303
I thought that we would be in a tv world, that was right, I thought it would be more like your in a city like new york, kind like how chapter 2 was a bit more open worlded. Someone said that the next one was going to be at the church, I think it was because it was sunday. So the theorys were correct. I did not think the church one was going to be filled with so much soul, im glad I was wrong.

>>712951348
No, he's talking about a completely different game

>>712951413
from their interactions, it doesn't look like kris visits the flower shop much

>>712951427
Gaster will make Ralsei a real boy as a reward for you putting him back together by finding his eggs. He'll also give Ralsei a small green pixel square that will be implied to be a condom, and tell him to "have fun"

>>712951504
What game you think

>>712951348
he was talking about YIIK

>>712951475
The game crashes if you do

>>712951251
>We didn't get a new corruption route, merely an expansion to Noelle's route.
I am so glad MOMGRAVEfags got cucked, and then got boned by daddy Sansy for good measure

>>712950637
he turns his face away when you beat Jevil, like he straight up doesnt look at Jevil at all.

>>712950091
>>712950296
I just thought. "Oh that's that thing the priest uses just before Frollo signs about wanting to bang Esmeralda."

>>712951492
Well his dad lives out of his own flower shop so probably that.

>>712951427
>Gaster is third hero
>He even supports you during fight with knight
Trust the plan. Patriots are in control

>>712951458
> So unless he had insider info he wasn't talking about plot similarities
Anon him and omocat are basically butt buddies

>>712950223
this also applies to the soundtrack, chapter 4 music was great, but it hasn't been stuck in my head since release like Tenna and the Knight's boss battles

>>712951348
He was talking about Cuckold Simulator.

>>712951461
>he didn't talk to ralsei just after or misinterpreted what he said

Is Toby a pedo btw

>>712951270
IT’S THE FREAK SHOW AND HERE’S THE PARTY FREAK

>>712951590
>butt buddies
are we the same person

>>712951251
Of all the theories that got debunked, who would've thought the term schizoboss would end up outdated?

>>712951413
I'm not sure if I like my dad but I'm certain I like him being with my mom more than I would otherwise

>>712948816
is there a worse poster in these threads than that dude who keeps posting dogshit art of Frisk and Chara?

>>712951434
kinda let the mask slip with this one

>>712951649
Maybe you're butt buddies

>>712951524
hes going ham on that large styrofoam cup

>>712951649
no, but we are butt buddies too.

>>712951101
WONDERFUL
VERY
VERY
WONDERFUL
YOU ARE
AN
IMPRESSIVE
SPECIMEN
I LOOK
FORWARD
TO CONTINUING
OUR
RELATIONSHIP
AND THE
EXPERIENCE
OF
OUR
DELTARUNE

>>712950320
No one will shed a tear for him.

>>712951590
>>712951649
the Butt Squad

>>712950581
doroton....

>>712951251
>We didn't get a secret boss with their own little story.
Peaked with Spamton
>We didn't get a new corruption route, merely an expansion to Noelle's route.
Peaked with Snowrape
>And the Titan literally was just a normal ass battle, compare that to Queen's or Tenna's final battle.
Merely a teaser for the more serious shit to come
If we got the same thing as Ch2, it would've gotten even older than the LoZ segments

>>712951524
me when i shit

>>712948965
It's not about difficulty, it's about fun and the intended experience. Right clicking is like playing a light gun game with your mouse.

Has anyone noticed that Kris's monstersona is a dog, not a goat?
There's kinda a huge amount of dialogue about Kris enjoying acting like a dog, and other characters ascribing dog characteristics to Kris or making Kris into a dog. And in Tenna's defeat animation, when the team is pointing at him on the Susiezilla stage, Kris is in a blue dog costume.
This might relate to the "Kris is Toby Fox's self insert" model as well.

BUT
IT
IS
STILL
WAITING

what? what is waiting? the deltarune? is it sentient? or just figure of speech?

Someone gimme a bingo template.
My dreams have been horrible lately

>>712951576
>The true heroes of The Legend are You, Susie and Gaster

>>712951303
I thought the "TV World" was going to incorporate more of the actual house, like the actual TV part was only going to be the first third. I thought How-To-Draw-Dragons would be a miniboss you fight after ascending the staircase (dragon at the top of the tower), and the last part would be unlocking Toriel's bedroom because Kris needed something in there.
I also had no idea what chapter 4 would be because I thought the church would be saved to later in the game. Didn't even expect the Knight, let alone a Titan, to make appearances this early.

chapter 5 is going to be absolutely crazy

I didnt use my microphone in the Mike fight
I didnt use my speakers for the Gerson fight
I won't play along with your gimmicks Toby

>>712951494
Chapter 4 takes place on Saturday, which lines up with the Egg Mans hint to find him that day.

>>712951873

>>712951101
Well, what routes you got?

>>712951251
I liked Gerson subverting expectations, but chapter 3 should've had a real schizo, even if it's just a Ramb fight.

>>712951873
If means Dess is waiting for us bros gaster is a nice guy he's been keeping her safe wow!!!!

>>712951821
Its just effect of Tasque indoctrination
Unless im wrong there are no kris is dog jokes before fight with her

>>712947914
he knew too much, he saw Kris opening the dark fountain, he would spill the beans with his alliance with the knight

>>712951873
The DELTA RUNE is an object that lets you change fate, hence the title "DELTA".
Gaster is using you to get the fun gang to discover the DELTA RUNE so they can thwart the prophecy, and in exchange Gaster plans to obtain it for himself and put himself back together. Maybe become an all powerful entity while he's at it.

>>712951821
It means he got that dawg in him

Gaster is basically turbo Ralsei, if you think about it
>Literal prince in the dark, lives in the complete unknown, waiting patiently
>pretty much does nothing but wait for (You)
>Has crazy amounts of insider knowledge
>Is very supportive of you and uses his powers to assist you
>appears to have an unhealthy attachment to you

I remember all songs from Undertale, Chapter 1 & 2 but can't for the life of me recall anything from 3 & 4

I remember every track from Chapter 3 & 4 but I can't for the life of me recall anything from Chapter 2.

>>712951907
There's still time for dreemurr house dark world 2 The Underground

What she types out in these are things that took place before the first dark world that they came into contact with right? just what the fuck did Kris say to warrant that reaction out of Susie during her dipshit rebel phase? and I fucking hate Noelle's thirsty ass pretentious dialogue everytime

>>712951717
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RPzcLIAwtmA

>>712951919
>Gerson speakers
Explain

>>712951961
He acts like a dog during one of the puzzle sequences with Noelle in the City, well before you meet Tasque Manager.

>>712951434
Nah the implications of it being Kris are just bordering on ludicrousness
Not only from a power level stance where he's suddenly fast and strong enough to instantly kill them both in a blink (while the Knight is physically shown to move that fast afterwards when it appears in front of Kris), but unwilling to use a fraction of that against a titanic eldritch beast swatting them like flies
But also from a mental stance where pretty much the only thing we know for sure about Kris is that hurting his friends gets him incredibly mad. You're telling me that he just decides that because Knight is struggling a bit he decides to take charge for once in his goddamn life and pull out the messatsu killing intent against the people he clearly loves?

>>712950215
spamton is the key to all of this
because he's a funnier character than we've ever had, but now that we got him working

What's up with the cat bomb in Mike's room?

>>712951961
You're wrong, Noelle treats Kris like a dog on the zapper switch before that fight. And the casualness with which she starts it indicates she and Kris have done it before. She tells Kris "Stay! Stay!", asks Kris wants a treat, notes that Kris sounds "so genuine" if you say yes, and that Kris "howls" if you say no.
Kris howling keeps coming up in the game and it's something they do indirectly, not directly from your command. So Kris is 100% into acting like a dog.
Kris also scratches at a door in ch3 like a dog if you try to open it, prompting Ralsei to say "aww, Kris want walkies?"
It just goes on like this. Susie was right, Kris is freaky.

>>712951904
>Susie
Noelle. Susie is not the hero, thats why she matters the most.

>>712951961
hot if true

>>712951919
>used buttons

>>712952143
Gerson Kombat has a space channel 5 type gimmick where you're given a sequence of attacks in rhythm you're supposed to hit when it's "your turn"

>>712952068
might want to have your brain checked

>>712951348
Yes. The plot is clearly Omori-like.

>>712951456
>there's no point in waiting until later
It's not a secret for later, though I wish they gave us a phone pad to make it easier to figure it out on your own.

>>712951060
Retards will be retards bro. It's confirmed that Kris works with the Knight and that the slash comes from his direction and they still won't see it because it's labelled "knight" in the gamefiles (because its a part of the knight fight)

What would it take for him to stop being an item in your inventory like Spamton with the Tenna pipis scene?

>>712952197
The Legend, not the Prophecy speedreader-chan

>>712952123
Not the anon above you but you can't expect me to believe for a second that you can't remember "NOW'S YOUR CHANCE TO BE A BIG SHOT".

>>712951251
>noooo the game isn't formulaic enough!!!
consider getting an autism diagnosis

>>712952280
Seam doing something cool

>>712951096
Very cool animation

>>712952280
Probably if the King is ever relevant again

>>712952280
The final schizo fight, Seam.

>>712952280
Seam boss fight

>>712952258
hey can someone post these files that we've been arguing about

>>712952141
at least i have a mom

>>712951443
Yes, but that doesn't mean I have to like it.

>>712952280
find Seam's pipis stash

>Spriters Resource finally lifted spoilers
Fucking finally

How it feels to have never played Omori and never plan to play it

>>712952280
apparently he laughs if you have the jevilstail on susie and she bets points

>>712951348
keep in mind that OMORI probably changed a lot between then and its release

>>712951348
He didn't kill her he just failed to save her or she sacrificed herself to save him. For all we know exploring the bunker and following the tail was his idea

>>712951303
I thought Chapter 3 would have WAY more areas and not just be Zelda. I also thought 4 would have an actual ruler. Outside of that it was actually similar to what I thought.

>>712952280
I don't think he would give a shit about anything but Seam

>>712952280
I've seen others point this out, but Jevil is playing the long game. If he's not showing up yet, it's because THE TRUE AND NEO CHAOS is yet to come. He'll be back when shit pops off for real.

https://youtu.be/TBVteb9Z6ps?si=_s7cFHeHox_HZOv0
https://youtu.be/B8Us0DZgexw?si=amcJHbiZngBS9RVt
>JUST now realized the start of both is the same

>>712951691
(You).

>>712951895

>>712951413
He might not hate him, but his parents are divorced so don't expect him to treat either of them kindly. He also is unable to live with Asgore since he's broke and doesn't even have a bed to sleep in. Their relationship is probably better than we get the impression of, Asgore makes him a hot chocolate in the snowgrave route

>>712948335
you forgot about 8-10 bro

>>712951691
No.

>>712951948
>i thought her weird laugh was just a placeholder in ch1
>3 chapters and later it hasn't changed

>>712952625
Thanks, time to

>>712952143
When you fight against Gerson's statue, the screen might get little flashes of light on the direction the arrows are coming.

This was my bingo, I got BTFO.

>Chapter 5 will have two fountains at once, for the ICE-E's and the flower shop
>Fun Gang will need to move back and forth between the two to advance
>Meanwhile the Festival will progress in Light World, with new interactions each time you cross Hometown

>>712950715
The Knight opened a fountain, yes, but it wasn't dark, it was a Light fountain.
If Lightners inherently can open Dark Fountains, who's to say that opening a Light Fountain isn't something that Darkners can inherently do?

deltarune brings me a disproportionate amount of joy
I didn't even care about UT desu

>>712952141
He said like your mom got sick of you or something. Maybe even a cheeky little (your mother's dead lol

>>712952417
The only thing I know about Omori is that there's incest porn about it.

>>712951427
>Gaster was in dark so deep photons not only stopped coming, they were negative
to be fair thats ralsei's explanation for dark worlds.
taking away even more light when it becomes pitch black.

>>712952030
>>712951427
The more i think about it the more i like it. This would also give Ralsei more personal stakes in breaking of prophecy - he too wants to be a hero (even if he wont admit selfish desire), but he cant. Thats why chapter 4 hits him so hard. His purpose isnt saving the day, its to keep you happy
Good, keep smilling

>>712952280
It would be the most kino thing ever if he returned for round 2 later in the game

>>712952731
Dess showed up in the flashback and as the Knight. Asriel also showed up in a flashback. The onion song was referenced as well.

>>712952731
>a world darker than dark
That one is kind of true considering that the Knight made a recursive dark fountain in the church world to summon the Titan

>>712952754
now you're stretching a bit too much

>>712952143
You only get the flashes of light indicating where the attack is coming from if the game detects that you are unable to tell where the sound is coming from. When Susie asks you "where did that sound come from" say the opposite and you won't have to fight the statue the intended way.

>>712951873
FRIEND is waiting in the dark

>>712952625
Is it too early to start making a bingo for Chapter 5?

>>712952836
>>712952417
Having had a similar situation in the past as the game protagonist, to me omori hit harder than undertale emotionally. Especially the ending. Its a great game if youre willing to give it a shot.

>>712952731
We saw Dess in silhouette from behind, that's close
Ralsei was black fur in the video game

>>712952748
and you will have to blow on your microphone like you did in the mike minigame, true

>>712952180
>Not only from a power level stance where he's suddenly fast and strong enough to instantly kill them both in a blink
Combat stats are entirely based on items, anon, and he can get up to doing easily over 300 damage against Tenna with what we already have.
With the True Knife and the motive? He can definitely knock down our sub 300 Susie in a single blow.
>But also from a mental stance where pretty much the only thing we know for sure about Kris is that hurting his friends gets him incredibly mad.
He only gets that way with Noelle, if you've paid attention.
>You're telling me that he just decides that because Knight is struggling a bit he decides to take charge for once in his goddamn life and pull out the messatsu killing intent against the people he clearlyloves
You poor fool. You don't get that it's only Noelle he cares for, don't you? That Dess is likely almost as important to him?
He has a mission to do, that goes beyond the Darkner he cares nothing for or the Girl he met only recently.

>>712952930
You Sunny's your Mari?

>>712952748
>Ralsei senses whenever a new fountain is formed
>The ICE-E fountain is formed mid battle with a rouxls miniboss or something
>Ralsei freaks out because just like the Icy area in Tenna's game, this wasn't mentioned in the prophecey

>>712952925
not at all, toby will probably only drop new teasers in september/october

>>712952748
Sounds like a fun idea. Moving between dark worlds within the church was an understated cool part of Ch4

I love that fighting the Titan itself evokes fear within Kris that is completely and wholly unrelated to the Titan itself.

Chapter 3 and 4s music were great

>>712952907
i hope that FRIEND won't be friendly at all

>>712952949
There will also be a cowboy.

>>712952930
My condolences.

>>712951524
I wonder if this absolute annihilation of a trash bin will get brought up in chapter 5 with Carol blaming it on Susie.
>>712952925
The earlier the card, the more POINTs you get.

>>712952930
the ending is dogshit

Most people, including myself, seem to believe that there will be a twist involving who the heroes of the prophecy really are/were, but I'm having trouble reconciling that idea with Ralsei being aware of Kris and Susie's names before meeting them. I wonder if this is just something Toby didn't really think about since it's not like Kris and Susie call out the fact that he shouldn't know their names.

>>712950406
Its a different color, Kris can x-slash, and Kris is working for the knight. That's means, motive, a visual evidence.

>>712952971
Not exactly I was trying to keep it spoilerfree for the anon. My Mari went bye bye on her own.

>>712953052
If he's an object like other Darkeners, wouldn't it not be strange for him to know their names already?

>>712953030
it's literally his name, toby wouldn't make it so cliche and obvious to not make him a friend.

So do eggs count towards adding another star to a chapter?

I think I've been spoiled on Omori that the main character killed someone, and a blonde haired boy helped cover it up.
Is it still worth playing?

>>712952731
Showing Noelle her watch changes the dialogue in chapter 4 during snowgrave. Ralsei explains darker than dark in chapter 3 and what dark worlds actually are. The sword route can be started in later chapters regardless of your choices in chapter 2

>>712952280
He'll come back for Seam
>>712952446
Bet points on what?

I don't want to sound contrarian, but I'm still not 100% convinced Dess is the Knight. Just seems a little too obvious. I think the Knight's identity is still meant to be a mystery at this point and there are simply too many things pointing towards it for me to believe it unquestioningly. I'm not gonna pretend like I have a better theory, but yeah those are my thoughts.

>>712953126
no

>>712951981
The DELTARUNE is the prophecy. Gaster's DELTARUNE is HIS version of the prophecy, which he's creating by inserting the player into the prophecy.
FRIEND is prophecypilling the schizobosses to get the original prophecy to happen, that's why Spamton sold you the Thorn-Ring, Noelle is part of the original prophecy. Much like how PseudoSchizo Ramb has us play through the original, unchanged game in a search for freedom, the other schizos want us to go through the original, unchanged prophecy.

>>712953131
I enjoyed it, but I also think that's not really a super hidden part of the game. You can piece it together while there's still a lot of game left.

>>712952930
Omori doesnt have the same appeal, its severely more linear even if you pick a different route, but I enjoyed it nonetheless
The duet destroys me emotionally, and Toby went and included the Waltz in the songs Kris can play on the piano of all things.

>>712953126
the stars are just the number of finished save files you have for that chapter, as long as you see the credits, you get a star

>>712951895
Some of those were never going to be crossed off because even if they were truly it wouldn't be confirmed in a couple of chapter.

>>712952930
Omori blows dick, pseudointellectual garbage

>>712951427
Darker than dark is just how dark worlds form
>Light
Normal world
>Dark
Normal world but you don't perceive things quite right
>Pitch black
You see nothing
>Darker than pitch black
Things start existing as how they're incorrectly perceived
>Gorilla nigger dark
Raw darkness takes material from as a titan made of fear

Normally things can't get darker than pitch black, but there's a shitload of darkness under the town that can be drawn up for some reason

>>712953149
>Just seems a little too obvious.
Sometimes the guy called Mike is just a microphone

>>712952280
he laughed when susie tried to bet
https://x.com/Comfnani/status/1934756669293990147
he's just watching shit hit the fan with no care

>>712950059
Since weapons can change the attack color, this could be it. We don't know what color attack the knife has because we've never seen Kris use it.

>>712953209
>Toby went and included the Waltz in the songs Kris can play on the piano of all things.
Wait really? Do you have a vid?

>>712952280
I hope there will be interactions between him and Seam

and a blue mascot creature

>>712953052
This anon is right >>712953107 but also i think that Kris and Susie use their names between getting in and meting him (unless i mistaken). He could have heard them use their names

>>712953131
no the game is a boring slog when it's not trying to be a glorified vn

>>712952930
I'm a wuss and there's too many jumpscares in it

>>712952907
>>712953030
>FRIEND's appearance in ralsei's explanation is similar to a DARK type enemy (white outline, filled with black), with only the eyes being colored
>seemingly dont have an associated object (you could argue that its from catpetterz, but there's a FRIEND hidden in the church)
>only appear in "darkest" areas, like the titan spawns in ch4
FRIENDs are a "dark native" like titan spawns and will absolutely not be friendly once they make their first proper appearance

>>712953332
>>712953037
oops

>>712952735
I still can't believe she's into it

>>712953149
The Knight is a botched reincarnation of Dess, like how Susie's dark world failed to revive Gerson and instead made a corrupted statue of him

>>712953242
Again, it seems like it's still supposed to be a mystery. It kind of defeats the purpose of the mystery when you can piece the twist together halfway through, doesn't it?

>>712953131
you can figure out the big "twist" like a third into the game if you're observant enough, it's a decent time but I found the combat to be a bit of a slog for the most part (especially compared to more innovative stuff like deltarune)

>>712952970
Anon the end of chapter 4 has him almost leave to presumably just fucking tell Susie everything

>>712953149
People aren't thinking the Dess=Knight thing through. Are they just thinking that Toby's big reveal is going to be something that everyone guessed chapters in advance?

>>712953153
>>712953217
Ah. Here I thought I was missing something. I haven't been collecting eggs since I want to see what happens when you don't and I know everyone else has that base covered.

>>712953397
>but there's a FRIEND hidden in the church
where?

>>712953390
There are like what 2 and a half in total

>>712953107
It's very strange. If he knows their names from being around them as an object, I have no idea what object Ralsei could possibly be. It would have to be one that would be aware of both Kris and Susie's names and faces, but not be familiar with their history AND be connected to Asriel somehow.

>>712953343
>Kris and Susie use their names between getting in and meting him
I could see this being a possibility maybe, but we don't see Ralsei watching them at any point. We do see Lancer though

>>712953251
Its a lot more cheerful, and comes off as more inexperienced because thats just Kris' skill I suppose
https://youtu.be/9cDRvSa3bfk

Mike's minigames are fun.
Specially
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jsXXKQ_nl30

>>712953427
there's plenty of red herrings thrown in to make any potential pivots believable but Dess being the knight is the best choice as it stands

>>712953458
Considering we were presumably meant to get the "final chapter" alongside 3&4, yes.

So Roulxes Kaard is Gaster right? He even talks in hands

>>712953332
Lancer?

>>712953603
>that opening bit
It's autistic but always immediately think of https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4F7vEXFtOwY

>>712953397
>* Funny little man. How his jokes and dances made us chuckle.
>* A shame he had to be tricked away, by his closest companion.
>* The magician, Seam, whose smile has gone empty since that day.
I don't think so

>>712953408
You know what's worse?
This line is not spoken. At this point she just subconsciously assumes Kris and her are on the same wavelength. It's only later when you (don't) do the weird route that she realizes the SOUL can hear her thoughts.

>>712953627
There's a real chance that he's mystery man despite how much people don't want to admit it. Probably not Gaster though, unless the theory that there are multiple gasters is true

>>712953052
Ralsei knows a lot of shit he shouldn't. He almost certainly knew your names a long time ago.

The Knight's suit of armor is made of Titan remnants and it lets Darkners operate in the Light World by stopping the light from reaching inside of the suit.

reminder that Kris has ALWAYS been sandbagging
He only gets X-Slash when he's facing Spamton-Neo alone.
Not during any other moment of the game until he's pushed against the wall fighting a strong enemy by himself.

>>712952417
Why though
If you like Deltarune and RPG Maker, you may very well like Omori. The OST is amazing too.
>>712953586
No fucking way

>>712953586
I thought it was an arrange of acid tunnel of love?

>>712953131
Its a fun game, I quite liked it. Ikkikomori is a terrible route you feel worse than doing a genocide in Undertale so I heavily dont recommend it, but at the same time there is a lot of missable content by skipping it too so it sucks on that regard.
Also the Queen's castle is a slog, its about the only sluggish part of the game as a whole.

>>712952417
Good. Deltarune is like OMORI but better in literally every way. OMORI's equivalent of the Dark Worlds sucks so much that the only way people justify it is by using the "it's bad on purpose!" cope.
Also, Toby Fox's humour is actually funny, compared to OMOCAT's.

>>712951060
That "how could you" is pretty damning. He wouldn't need to ask the knight how it downed Susie, its super powerful and she's been downed by less before. Kris doing a sudden backstab would get a reaction out of Ralsei like that. He's even looking right at Kris when he says it.

The knight filename is either an intentional misdirect, just because its part of the knight fight, or its a clever word play by Toby which implies that Kris is also a knight.

>>712953751
I'm not sure what you're trying to show me there. I know he knows about the Dark worlds and prophecy, but I don't think he's ever expressed any knowledge of Kris and Susie that he shouldn't have known, aside from their names.

>>712953627
After he changed how game is played forcing you to act in chapter 3 i think he could be anything, including some part of gaster

>>712953794
not to mention he can casually pop a healing ACT stronger than ralsei's heal prayer

>>712953813
>Why though
Tribalism
For some reason people get really defensive when you bring up other good games that have similar gameplay/thematic elements to their original game.

>>712953619
When was 5 lorded as the final chapter

Dess has not showered since she went missing....

>>712951251
That's because it was never about schizobosses, it was about griefbosses.

>>712952306
autism game, autism board

>>712953832
the castle should've had more of sweetheart herself it would've saved it

>>712953914
That's not Kris, that's pipis power.

>>712953832
>Ikkikomori
*hikikomori

>>712953751
Susie used to wear a white ribbon when she was in 1st grade

>>712952446
>>712953243
>doesn't work with Devils Knife
Erm....

>>712953617
I'm saying Dess being the obvious "best choice" makes her the biggest red herring of them all.

>>712953931
People misreading Gerson's dialogue. He actually says 6 is the final chapter

Why is Kris so loyal to Dess? I thought Asriel was the person Kris loved most.

>>712951556
its unironically yiik.

>>712952930
I think that while the game is bad, there is definitely something to be said about that ending after you spend so much time with those characters. It hit me like a truck aswell, nothing in undertale managed to get me that emotional. The final duet scene with all those implications and how you can see that the protagonist has to move on but he's barely, just barely holding on because of how much that event ruined his life is just so heartbreaking.

>>712953603
You guys noticed when you reset your score at Mike's minigames bomb thingy when the RESET message pops in, the music is literally the few 3 seconds of Metatton's theme?

>finish chapter 2 for the first time
>only time i've died in the game was to Jevil, but one shot spamton NEO
>
>die to queen in punch-out
I was really fucking bad at fighting her I'm not very good at the whole watching tells thing, either that or the game is getting harder.

>>712953242
Mike is FRIEND. 100%, without question. How do I know? Because
EVERY
SINGLE
GAME
in that room comes from Cat Petterz, which is the game FRIEND came from. Also FRIEND is actually inside one of those games, and does exactly what Noelle described them doing - giving you a fuckton of points while also killing you.

So what if Gaster is multiple characters? He was shattered after all. Roulx, Ralsei, the Voice a at the start, eggman, maybe more
Would that satisfy you anon?

>>712953778
Its wrong to objectify Noelle. Only sick-minded freaks would joke about having sex with an emotionally abused teenager, especially one that is unusually obedient. Degenerates might be obsessed with her golden blonde hair and innocent eyes, but believe me when I say that I'd rather die than feel her warm fur against my skin, or help her pull off layer after layer of itchy, sweat-stained Christmas sweaters to finally reveal her pert breasts. Only a heartless monster would play with her exposed nipples (now harder than candy canes due to the AC), and you'd be a fiend to consider using those conveniently-placed antlers while engaging in self pleasure. Bastards like you make me sick, it's wrong to watch a shrinking violet shake her bare ass while her little tail flickers back and forth with barely-contained excitement. Frankly anyone who even considers helping Noelle reach her first mutual climax behind her mother's back should be put on a list, and while I can only speak for myself, I think most people would agree that feeling her heart beat rapidly while she clings to you under the covers, peeking behind her fingers at a scary movie, while cuddling in post-coital bliss, would be an exceptionally evil act. So knock it off.

>>712948020
If lighting the entire town on fire counts as redemption, then yes

>>712953931
iirc toby himself has implied the "main" story is hitting some sort of conclusion with ch5, plus gerson saying he wasn't able to write any further than 5

>>712953458
We thought the Knight and Titans were going to be endgame so it could just be revealed in Chapter 5 for all we know

>>712954005
now where the fuck did you get that from?

>>712954070
What if I told you the point is that she's objectified to begin with

>>712954040
Noelle said FRIEND takes points away.
Also, the real MIKE is a giant non-anthropomorphized microphone you can see at the right end of the room if you stand still.

>>712952417
omori is a shit game

>>712953896
Ralsei looks directly at you when Susie says you made her out on a bow.

>>712954010
The reason he likes music and the piano and that he's a rude dude is from dess. They used to pirate music videos and piano tutorials together.

>>712953814
acid tunnel is an arrangement of lancer's theme
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GAhBQH0Kf1I

>>712953443
Nah, it was to mating press Noelle without (you) getting involved.

>>712953427
The identity is only a part of the mystery.

>>712954127
Haven't played it, that dialogue is a bit boring unfortunately. And long winded.

>>712954091
So the shit hits the fan in ch 5, but the REAL SHIT hits the fan in ch 6 and 7

>>712953982
At least her theme her themes is pretty great

>>712954091
Why cant people fucking read?
Chapter 5 is SECOND LAST
Chapter 6 is last thing written before autor was consumed
Chapter 7 was never written

>>712954147
Yeah after the scene with Susie screaming at Ralsei in chapter 4, Ralsei says he knows which items the heroes are able to equip. The line about the ribbons is part of why people think Susie isn't a part of the legend. I'm not sure what it has to do with Ralsei knowing their names though.

>>712954216
It is, the whole game is long winded and drags on for a bit too long in parts where it shouldn't, the beauty of that game lies in the plot that goes on in the background inside of the main character's head and his conclusion in the end, if you manage to even get a little bit attached the climax of the game is like a gut punch

>>712949791
I used to have a fat fetish, then I had the awful experience of smelling one after a few minutes of sweating.
Horrific turnoff, instantly killed any thoughts of fucking anyone over 190 lbs. Pheromones are a lie.

>>712954257
chapter 7 is undertale

>>712954114
I have the Knife on my inventory and doesn't work, then I saw Joel's stream with the Tail and it played Jevil's laugh

>>712952904
It's incredibly apparent that it wasn't a dark fountain just from its appearance alone, and completely matches the prophecy since dark AND light ablaze make a titan.
What it was, how it works and what that means for darkners or lightners creating fountains inside dark worlds, we don't know, but to say that the Knight cannot be a Darkner because they made any kind of fountain is just wrong.

>>712954336
>Undertale but with Susie freaking out at meeting copies of everyone she knows in hometown
Kino

>>712954127
Its done on purpose anon Its highlighting how stuck in his childhood Sunny is, everything about the dream world is childish, his friends are made of memories from when he got along with them

>>712954372
Is it equipped, though? The altered check text for Tenna that you get for having the Dealmaker doesn't appear unless you have Dealmaker equipped to Kris.

>>712954310
Specifically, it's because Ralsei knows about (You) and that Susie's equipment list will change when you combine with her. His level of knowledge is on a far, far greater level than he's let slip.

>>712954257
I hate that this probably means the crazy shit that's going to go down at the festival is probably going to be in chapter 6.
FUCK asgore and his gay little flowers

>>712954257
idk i skipped his dialogues

>>712954127
meanwhile in Deltarune
>I am going to touch the cheese
>battle starts
it's that easy

>>712954127
the only good thing about it is the basil gay porn

>>712953927
A bitter existence.
It was one of the few games that had very significant impact on me like DR and UT

>>712954229
https://youtu.be/AbhSkZq77yo?si=o-DY8ahCr00jb_pl&t=264
there's even a bit of a gaster allusion with the work "swallowing up the author himself"
>>712954257
tbf it's kind of weird that he doesn't describe chapter 6, I think it's people hinging off of toby saying 5 is a conclusion of sorts and weirdly interpreting it

>>712954459
>its bad on purpose
ok cool, will never consider playing your game since its supposed to be bad.
thanks for anti-shilling

>>712954459
The issue is it's fucking dogshit and 90% of it barely matters for the plot. The good stuff that is there IS good but god damn

Will we ever get an answer as to why we the soul become so obsessed with making Noelle stronger in the weird route? Was it just us seeing her use Iceshock and thinking "hmm now that's interesting"?

>>712954127
Wow, this makes the writing in UT/DR look like a masterpiece

What would a dark world based on your room look like?

>>712953832
who invited nigga on the far right

>>712954546
When it said "LOVE finds its way to the girl", it wasn't talking about Susie

>>712954554
I don't have a room, so it'd just be the house

>>712954523
I think its because chapter 5 will be so groundbreaking any description of chapter 6 would be spoiler

>>712954257
>>712954523
6 will be a Gaster chapter, totally.

>>712954246
if there's one thing omori got totally right it's definitely the ost

>>712954546
Sometimes the simplest answer is the right one. Or something like that.

>>712954492
The festival is literally the next day and all the dark fountains have either been at night or inside at day where it takes so long it's night when they exit, and toby is not insane enough to have an entire chapter with no dark world

>>712954546
You're the Soul retard. But to be honest, Toby retconned everything from Chapter 1. He didn't know what he was doing at that point
>Ch1 Rudy is sad that Noelle is defenseless and asks Kris to protect her
>This is meant to be the subconscious impetus that guides the player AND Kris down the path to make Noelle stronger
>Actually no fuck you lmao, Kris wasn't cool with any of it. Also he rescued Berdly after he was frozen to death lol.

>>712949791
Why edit the "fucking retard"? That's the funniest part of the joke

>>712954554
it'd be populated with abandoned ambitions

>>712954114
>>712954372
>>712954474
I have the Dealmaker on Ralsei, that worked and made Spamton meme on Tenna
Susie has the Devils Knife on and it doesn't make Jevil laugh... :(

>>712954546
Weird Route is NG+. Something is going to happen in the normal ending that convinces us that strength is the only way to win, also Noelle is an avatar we'd synchronize with much easier than Kris - she's an avid glitch hunter so once she realises what's happening there's a very good chance she'll be 100% down with it and start trying to clip through walls.

>>712954546
My current theory is she’s just this game’s equivalent to Luigi in Super Paper Mario where by sheer unexplained chance she’s the ideal host for unfettered destruction

>>712954554
why the soul farting

>>712954546
i'm expecting there to be something in a later chapter that'll make you go "FUCK IF ONLY NOELLE WAS STRONGER" so you'll take up the role of the villain in order to change fate
it won't work

>>712954523
6 will be return of vessel

>>712954546
soul is (you), whether it be for the sake of empowering noelle to use or just out of curiosity is up to (you)

>>712954554
Omori white space with a computer, a piano, and a mattress

>>712954546
Not out of any desire for good or evil but because you can, and because you "can", you "have to"

>>712954474
Wrong. I got it with Ralsei having it equipped.

>>712954554
realistically i can imagine it being some kind of ramshackle shantytown full of forgotten things and stuff that looks kinda cobbled together
bonus points if my lamp is a prominent character of some kind :)

>>712954714
so our experience is getting cucked from playing it asynchronously?

>>712954526
>>712954530
but that is the point. the gameplay pretty much carries a big part of the enjoyment because the game is very childish. Its not without its flaws and I can see why this would bore some people.
>>712954631
He stabs his love interest in the real world he deserves a spot

>>712954660
Yeah it's going to be Asgore and the flower shop in the morning, then the festival in chapter 6, which will have its own dark world. Hope you're prepared to WAIT

>>712954554
A sea of cum

>>712954661
Snowgrave is not protecting her you stupid fuck. You push her into a fucking zapper. You can corner her in the hospital as she screams at you not to come closer. You say "Noelle will ride me" and she gets uncomfortable as fuck. You make her murder her study partner. You stick a sharp ring around her finger that makes her bleed half her HP away. You take away her agency.

>>712954793
>Festival following whatever godawful shit they experience in asgores dark world that likely has awful ramifications
That would be so fucking dogshit, toby would not.

>>712954554
All the darkners would be very judgemental, that's for sure

>>712954779
doing the wrong thing out of sheer curiosity also helps, as a wise man once said

>>712954546
Quick question, do we get back thorn ring in any situation other than stopped snowgrave? In no i think Weird route will end up in rugpull, and whatever you will do will backfire. Real ending will require thorn sword

>>712954554
retrofuturistic area because i have abunch of space needle and retrofuturistic stuff!
My computer might hate me though because i threaten to murder it when it slows down and stuff... :(

>>712953458
A good story can absolutely be guessable, especially if you put in the work to have all the clues be available. If you are writing something and some of your readers/players are able to guess where something is going, that's something you should reward, not make a hackneyed rewrite to ruin things, hide information, flat out lie and ignore all logic/consistency just so that there's a surprise. That's how you get Rian Johnson slop.

>>712954127
ill take this over suselle writing desu

A DARK ZONE and second sanctuary are stuck in my head on repeat

>>712954698
This.
The normal route will end up with the prophecy being unable to be fulfilled.
The weird route is forcing Noelle to be strong and under our control so she can assume the role of the hero (and sacrifice).
The true ending is making her just strong enough to have her fight alongside the party, but stopping before "that" scene happens.

>>712954760
this, it really feels like an extension of the boundary-pushing in genocide in UT thematically; you doing what's presented to you just because you want to see what will happen. Depending on how much control gaster/kris have over the options you're presented it's probably some twisted prophecy bullshit you're being roped into

>>712954909
Be nice to your computer! That poor thing hasnt had its fan cleaned, thermal paste reapplied, and disk cleaned up in ages. Hes doing his best

>>712954503
based

>>712954880
Thats how you know toby intends for player to keep the thorn ring in chapter 2
Good idea, wrong execution

>>712954127
kinda sorta true but toby will never top final duet

>>712954880
God I fucking love Gerson

Is there a reason why Deltarune is on a fixed framrate instead of being uncapped

>>712954874
Nah I don't agree. As much as I hate it, Asgore and the festival being separate chapters is cleaner, and with the build up the festival has had, I think it's intended to put us on track to the ending. Having Asgore's dark world in the middle would interrupt the flow of that

>>712954972
Pretty sure the "True Ending" is going to be the one that clearly is going "The Wrong Way" with the Eggs.

>>712954698
Noelle's not actually an "avid glitch hunter". When she played Dragon Blazers, it wasn't a glitch. She says you can't find your way through the maze without the wizard, but ch3 shows Noelle is literally the wizard.
Because Dragon Blazers is based on the prophecy, and Noelle is who the white robe character is, the game works "correctly" when Noelle is playing it, because her physical presence is equivalent to if the white robe was in her party.
The egg pet and FRIEND attack in cat petterz were darkners coming to her, likely because she is part of the prophecy, not her finding stuff by hunting.

>>712955053
toby fox is a dogshit developer and probably tied a bunch of shit to the framerate

>>712954698
This might be what Toby is going for, with all that we know about Noelle from the ARG and such.

>>712954965
YOU DIDN'T GO BACK
:(

>>712955053
gamemaker runs with a fixed framerate by default and toby isn't really a programmer so he didn't think to / know how to circumvent it, now he's just stuck with it because he doesn't want to do the work to decouple everything from the framerate I'd assume

>>712955040
https://youtu.be/DqbzExv7wNI
Kris has his own theme on a piano, there's a chance it could

>>712955095
Her blog is literally all about hunting secrets and finding glitches

>>712954891
I don't think you to keep the thorn ring at all unless you abort.

>>712954929
toby's already done this with mantle as well, to add to that
it was clearly meant to be the organic way of finding out how to do snowgrave, but he didn't rewrite it just because we figured it out early

>>712955074
>Starts with festival shit
>When it gets dark asgore does whatever fuck shit he's doing
I don't see how this wouldn't work. What would even be the dark world shit in the festival chapter then, just two of them back to back??? In the same day???

>>712955168
I could see this melody being used for the end credits.

>>712955012
ah yes The sunflower kiss gif. a classic

>>712954554
Its probably dominated by my pc, since that's the most important object in the room. The PC is old (about 20 years) but I still use it as a daily driver. The rest of the room is filled with all sorts of other old tech junk like old consoles, a tube tv, old phones, a floppy disk camera, and a few things from my childhood.

Probably a mashup of the cyber world and what people thought the Kris's house dark world would look like. The PC I see as being male, and a lot less goofy than Queen, probably closer to Tenna since he's such an old thing. So a big CRT headed robot guy who looks imposing, but is getting on in age and has a persistent cough. Would've kicked your ass handily 20 years ago, but now would be a much fairer (if not outright easy) fight. If it reflects my will, the darkners are all probably desperately clinging on to their old roles and fighting to stave off the unstoppable march of time. The PC guy probably just wants to be useful, and would probably try to get me to finish all those projects I started on him.

The few things from my childhood would probably be party member darkners. I'd probably get my own Ralsei.

>people really think chapter 5 won't be a flashback chapter

>>712955216
is that pose a mystic quest reference? based

>>712955226
>What would even be the dark world shit in the festival chapter then, just two of them back to back??? In the same day???
I mean yeah that happened in both chapter 2 and chapter 4.

You can disagree, but I see the festival as the beginning of the end with how it's positioned in the story. And if that's the case, I think it's going to be in chapter 6.

>>712954965
>>712955141
THAT'S IT, NO MORE MR NAICE GUY
INSTEAD, MR VERY NAICE GUY
LEAVE :)

>>712954459
called it >>712953871

>>712953131
omori is an actual good game but it will be undoubtedly boring if you dont care for the rpg sections (90% of the game)

>>712955312
It's a standalone chapter Toby wouldn't have the balls

>>712954929
I think game theorizers have just gotten used to hack writers like scott cawthon that literally make it up as they go along and try to fuck with theorizers rather than having a set vision; toby has done red herrings like with kris's behavior but shit like actively running counter to evidence provided is just terrible writing. The knight having antlers means it's a holiday at minimum, a lot of the other evidence points toward dess and it definitely isn't "too obvious" so much as we're all autists that remember single lines about characters using a wiffle bat

>>712955168
>last prophesy
that kinda sounds like showtime

>>712954712
kek

>>712955008
she's a laptop and i accidentally gave her a virus when installing cheat engine for the knight fight...
Also my weapon would be a raygun based off this plushie of a space ship i have :)

>>712954789
>the gameplay pretty much carries a big part of the enjoyment
the gameplay is literally "baby's first RPGMaker game"-tier. the only good thing about it is the artstyle

>>712955494
Toby only knows how to play 5 songs

>>712954861
And now, if the Knight came after, she would actually stand a chance. Dummy

>>712955480
I noticed people are trying to interpret very obvious clues in the most obtuse way possible because of that

>>712955168
>end of chapter 8
>kris regains his freedom
>the world is saved
>the true dark fountain is sealed
>(you)'ve said your goodbyes
>gaster finally has his deltarune
>and tells you that you can't ever return to it
>...but he can give you a final last glimpse
>you see kris playing the piano for the first time since he lost control
>he notices your presence
>and starts playing this song
>as a final thank you

>>712955168
this one is definitely coming back somewhere important right

>>712955390
ENOUGH!!! MY PATIANCE RUNS THIN
NO MORE KEYS!!! DRESS IN HUMILIATION

>>712948317

I disagree. Hammer of Justice was hard, but each time I lost and tried again, I always felt like I was making progress. You could compensate a lack of speed with memorization to some degree, so it never made you feel like you were stuck.

The Knight is the opposite. It felt like a pure reaction speed test and little else.

>>712951240
You're not told whose

>>712955790
if Kris hugs the soul in the end I might legit cry a lot

>>712955909
>but each time I lost and tried again, I always felt like I was making progress
Susie's healing power increases in strength every time you use it.

>>712955393
You know anon im not putting into question that its true its made to suck on purpose in Omori's case, I personally feel that works against Omori's narrative in fact because its much easier to just drop the Dream World in favor of the real one in Omori, which should be the opposite, the only thing that keeps the Dream World worth it in Omori's case is really just having Mari there, which is terrible for him because it keeps distorting into his last memory of her, hanging.
It is a huge narrative flaw because it doesnt account for the player's enjoyment of the dream world.

>>712955963
Same. I want this kid to be happy, goddammit.

>>712954127
Is it wrong I feel the dialogue here feels kind of YIIKish?

>>712952930
same
this and LISA did a good job of that

>>712951240
>Then why is the only choice in the game to kill everything?
Apparently people don't get it even if Toby puts it on a big neon sign.