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I don’t understand cosmic horror in games. Some random dude looks at a creature with tentacles or a few extra eyes and goes insane because he can’t comprehend it? That doesn’t make any fucking sense.

>>725083303 (OP)
Bro people look at vaccines and studies and go fucking insane because they can't understand it.

B-BOAT SAMA??? I KNEEL

>>725083303 (OP)
You're right, you don't understand. The guy doesn't go crazy because he saw some tentacles, he goes insane because he comprehends how pathetic and insignificant his existence is. Man's hubris is stripped, and he discovers all his accomplishments and knowledge amount to nothing, not even the level of a child, in the face of a being so alien and powerful, that the only thing understandable about it is what appears to be its physical form.

>>725083303 (OP)
No, it's because they have psychic powers. The authors just try and describe what it would feel like to have your mind dominated or squashed by a psychic entity. And most of these authors are before cape shit comics made psychic powers just another blunt instrument.

>>725083537
That's what it should be, but retards (readers and writers) have turned the genre into exactly what he's describing where people look at tentacles until their Sanity Meter™ reaches 0 and they become generically "insane."

>>725083537
that's not much better.

Read Lovecraft then. The Colour out of the space, for example. Cosmic horrors are usually in another plane of existence and Bloodborne takes inspiration from ideas lake that.

>>725083537
that sounds like crap tho
why it should make me go insane knowing im insignificant? just live and let live
enjoy pizza and be happy with the small stuff in life
you dont need much more

>>725083537
I get that, I don't get why that universally causes everyone to go insane upon seeing it. No shit I'm insignificant and don't matter in the grand scheme of things. I already know that and have known that for years.

I get why lovecraft wrote it that way because he had a deep seated fear of madness he got from watching his parents go insane from untreated siphylus

>>725083784
how does seeing something incomprehensible drive you mad though?

>>725083303 (OP)
Like the other anon said, the point is being unable to accept or comprehend your own insignificance.
When Lovecraft and co. were writing, they were writing in an artistic and philosophical period we call Modernism.
This started up somewhere in the mid to latter half of the 19th century and continued to around the middle of the 20th century.
This was a period where mankind was, simply put, extremely self-confident.
People genuinely started to feel that they had the universe figured out, that they had society down to a science, that they had humanity down to a science that could be comprehended totally. All of the universe's mysteries were within reach to be grasped, studied, documented, and understood and then communicated to others. One just had to be confident and serious and put in the work researching it and theorizing.

Cosmic horror was intended to directly counter that.
Timelines for events stretched not just from centuries but to hundreds of millions of years. The scale of conflicts didn't just address individuals but entire worlds. The laws of physics were treated as farces. Humanity's ability to understand things was treated as just entirely insufficient to grasp even the most basic of concepts of what the universe was really like. Man's ability to understand himself was subverted.

Lovecraft was afraid of most things, but the ocean in particular was one thing alien to him. As well, even at the time there was an appreciation that the deep sea and outer space shared characteristics.
So his fantasies about creatures and beings from space or outside of time, naturally came to reflect what he saw as most alien and distant from mankind, deep sea organisms that were basically already space aliens.
His fellow writers went different directions aesthetically at different times, but he was widely respected and emulated, so his aesthetic became the standard.

AHHHHHHHH

SAVE ME N-WORD MAN

>>725084094
So in lovecraft's work was everyone so unwilling to accept their insignificance that they'd go mad upon realizing it? It seems like there'd be at least some people who'd just refuse to think about it or just wouldn't be bothered by everything being utterly beyond them.

>>725083893
>>725084003
Lovecraft was aware of that, and communicated that with how he wrote different characters.
His protagonists tend to be fairly intellectual men who are reasonably prideful and who have a lot of self-confidence. The type of people who would be psychologically harmed by learning about the vast indifference of the cosmos to humanity.
Compare this to the cultists in a work like Call of Cthulhu, who are entirely comfortable with their place in the universe and their insignificance. And instead learn to revel in worship of the greater beings above them.

But the latter group aren't lionized.
Instead, they're almost always some level of degenerate. Just in being subhuman they're able to escape the psychological limits of mankind.

>>725083303 (OP)
Its quite simple. We occupy ourselves with coming up with explanations for everything. We invent explanations for everything and then make them into a coherent system and we feel like we have a grip on things. When minor things occur that perturb this balance we come up with explanations for them. We modify our theories and our laws and our sense of what is and how it all works to account for the new experience. If its a rare enough event we dont even need to do this, we just shrug and chalk it up to an anomaly that there must be an explanation for but which we just dont know yet. In this way we feel safe.

Cosmic horror is when a thing happens so far out of the expected and in such an all encompassing way that it destroys enough of our expectations about reality that our confidence in all of what we know is shattered. We cannot pretend that our model is sound anymore, that its just minor wrinkles to iron out and discover. We are confronted with the fact that its always been bullshit, all of it. Then we are just alone with no way to respond, no way to calculate and understand.

>>725083537
it's funny how the retards are replying
>"that doesn't make sense, it can't happen to me (btw i have never seen an incomprehensible monster irl yet so there's literally no way to know, i can only speculate)"

>>725083303 (OP)
Its been flanderized to hell since Lovecraftian media is public domain. Most of Lovecrafts strongest works are also incredibly secluded and isolated in scale. Creatures terrorizing towns and eating cows, a village of fish people, a mountain expedition with aliens in stasis pods. Meanwhile in capeshit or games like Warcraft you have weird tentacle monsters threatening the entire universe just from manifesting into a plane of reality and it happens on a weekly basis. I wish for more works like Bloodborne or even Dead Space where its some anomaly that might go unnoticed or buried by the protagonist.

>>725084441
The most positive finales to his stories often end with the protagonist trying in vain to forget what they saw or experienced.
To not be bothered you'd have to be too dumb to understand the implications, in Lovecraft and co.'s view. So you'd probably be a side character in another's story of psychological torment.

>>725083303 (OP)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TWbUPUaGTrI

Comprehend this

>>725083303 (OP)
Imagine this: a neutron star traveling at .5c could smash into us within the next hour, and we wouldn't be aware of it until the last few minutes before it happens. 100,000 years of our intelligence and hubris, billions of years of life on earth, and we would be entirely powerless to stop it. Lovecraftian horror is more than tentacles; it's an internalization of our insignificance in the face of power we cannot even conceptualize. And the reason it's so potent is because it draws from something real.

>>725084050
It is not necessarily about seeing something. Sometimes feeling their influence is enough.
These beings may not even recognize your presence. They are not evil, like a person is not hostile against a grain of sand he just stomped.
It’s about all your feelings, memories or known reality not mattering at all.

>>725083303 (OP)
its better than people going insane from looking at an empty pool room

>>725084050
Imagine if you found out that an extradimensional being that defies everything you knew about the universe until that point exists, and you also find out that it will eradicate all life on Earth at some point in the near future. You know it's 100% real. Your brain is still the same as before, but would you be able to continue your daily life just as before with your new knowledge? How would you look if you tried sharing that information with other people? You'd be like those Christians who predict the apocalypse and are completely serious about it to the point of giving away all their belongings, except in your case you don't belong to a socially acceptable major religion. Even if you're telling the truth, people would just think you're retarded and/or schizophrenic, and back in the day you'd get locked up.

Even the idea of a scary monster seem abstract until you meet something outside of the realm of possibility coming for you. Once the existence of outer realms enter your personal bubble, it induces dread.

>>725084445
Surely there would be people who aren't too fond of becoming a fish, but also don't want to kill themselves and others at the thought of being insignificant.

>>725084492
I mean, my default response scary shit I don't understand and can't control is to avoid it and not think about it. I feel like if I saw a shoggoth or cthulu I'd just run away and hope it becomes someone else's problem. Then live my life trying to think about things I actually enjoy thinking about or that I can deal with in a meaningful way.

>>725083303 (OP)
Because there is no creature, his punny brain is not able to understand the figure. It has tentacles and shiet cause we need to market niggerman works please understand.

Now buy the slop

>>725084573
>So you'd probably be a side character in another's story of psychological torment.
Sounds good to me. I'll gladly be the guy who says "I wouldn't go to the creepy murder town if I were you" then never appears in again in the remainder of the story.

>>725084656
If its that big and beyond us, why care at all? I don't concern myself with meteors crashing into the Earth or a solar flare blasting the atmosphere off the Earth's surface because I know there's nothing I could possibly do to survive or prevent that.

To me, this is like kids freaking out over the fact that the sun is going to expand and engulf the Earth in a few billion years.

>>725084557
That's fair. A dark presence deciding to turn everyone that touches it into a blood thirsty monsters is scary, regardless of whether or not I care about what some universe sized old god is doing ten sextillion light years away. As are crazed cultists trying to kill me.

>>725085042
I'd probably be pretty depressed. Or maybe I'd decide to just start crossing things off my bucket list. I've always thought that if I can't do something about a problem, there's no real point in being upset about it. Its better just to not think about it at all.

>>725085172
This. The people saying otherwise have just never had anything close to a true frightening otherworldly experience.

>psychic attacks have no effect on retards and simple minded people

Tentacles sama...

>thing is meant to be so unique and incomprehensible it drives you crazy ONLY if you see it irl, literally impossible to make sense of it
>people ITT try to make sense of it
kek

>>725085406
>my default response scary shit I don't understand and can't control is to avoid it and not think about it. I feel like if I saw a shoggoth or cthulu I'd just run away and hope it becomes someone else's problem
No, you fucking would not. If you, the person sitting there in front of your computer, the one who repeats his daily routines in the real world, the one your voice comes out of, not the imaginary one you project into fiction, saw something like that in you with your bare eyes, you'd shit yourself and start questioning everything you know. You can't just ignore having found out something like that exists. People have become so desensitized to fiction nowadays they struggle to imagine what experiencing something like that in real life would be like.

>>725085669
>If its that big and beyond us, why care at all?
Right? Go back to sleep, sleepy head. It's all just an illusion.

>>725083303 (OP)
It makes perfect sense that no one can comprehend a lower-dimensional projection of a creature existing on a higher geometrical plane

It needs to be noted that lovecraftian creatures are not just tentacle monsters. They exist beyond the physical realm, in the space that human perception cannot reach. Mind, trying to make sense of *something* renders them as monsters, but the hidden part is still there, causing disturbance (just like infrasound may cause headache). Monsters might seem warped and disfigured because they're just bleak shadows of their real selves.

>>725083537
Hp Lovecraft is the greatest writer of all time. It carries his premises very far. Read the king in yellow

>>725085406
Try to sleep alone at night in the forest.

>>725083893
Lovecraft's work was during the existential crisis many christians underwent in the 19th and early 20th centuries. Loss of faith, nihilism and such.

I've always liked the depictions of the whatever the fuck entity in The Void. It keeps showing this weird stellar mass somewhere in space, and it involves something about a barren rocky world covered in high stormy winds with the ever present pyramids belonging to whatever the thing is.

The wheel needs to turn.
Thank you for your attention on this matter.

>>725086495
The King in Yellow is by Robert Chambers.

>>72508642
Alot of them are aliens, artificial creations or creatures that evolved/adapted to harsh conditions on Earth. Great Race of Yith, Shoggoths, Deep Ones, Mi-Go erc

>>725086421
The Orz from Star Control are probably one of the best examples of that. They look bizarre to the point of goofiness, but they as we perceive them are merely the "fingers" of something far beyond are comprehension.

>>725083893
Yeah you might actually be too retarded to go insane.

Maybe the key to beating cosmic horror is to be autistic. Your brain is already all fucked up and retarded and shit so these revelations wouldn't have the same effect.

I like that a random Digimon can summon an elder god

>>725086168
I guess I'd be a lot more scared of anything supernatural, since I'd know that shit exists, but I feel like my classic go to of "get away from it and try not to think about it" would do its job like it usually does.

Cosmic jobbers fear the NihilistCHAD

>>725085208
Right but those people wouldn't generate an interesting story, if you think they would then tell that story yourself.

>>725083303 (OP)
The real issue is that you have pathetically few examples of actual functional cosmic horror. There are a lot of things that feature a big scary squiddly man or some other big scary monster, but the purpose of being in the presence or awareness of the insignificance of the self when pressed against a higher entity isn't really relevant even in games that supposedly feature cosmic horror.

Even in the picture in the OP, it's some big monster arrayed against a warrior. Cthulu's horror in the context of Lovecraft's works is one of a transformative and highly corrosive monster that isn't terrifying by itself, but rather as a harbinger for an entire array of things that are absolutely worse than it being called upon by extremely mundane cultists. The promise that a world-ending nightmare is a few gibbering prayers away, and that this is absolutely not the only one. The Hunter in Bloodborne is a killer of beasts, men, beastmen, and things that are between, but the cosmic horror is the notion that the cosmic war of the Great Ones that decimates Yharnam every Night of the Hunt is just a routine mating process that causes catastrophic damage as they attempt to form a child. Not a hint of malice, not a notion of hatred, no intent to destroy beyond their desire to remove an opposing child and to sire a new one of their own. It's all contextual, and putting these two next to each other does and means nothing.

The last narrative example I can think of that well captures the notion of cosmic horror is Darkest Dungeon's Heart of Darkness. The well-equipped, well-armed group of veteran warriors and heroes sent into a shrieking bloodsoaked hell and kill the most dangerous entity they've ever experienced, only to learn that it was just some limb of an entity so great that its discovery is enough to promise doom to the world for their works disturbing it.

lovecraft's horror is often finding strong hints that your sketchy friend is a reptilian
but there is several several stories like dagon where it's literally just seeing giant tentacle monster and going crazy, well why wouldn't you? that's like walking in on a reptilian gangbang, you're certainly not going to be normal after that
then others are scientist explores ancient ruins of a reptilian gangbanger's society or consorts with reptilians to maybe make some great deal but probably just end up as dinner
well people say "duh its just see incomprehensible horror why would you go crazy?" but if you see any weird shit like this of course you're going to be crazy as far as anyone normal is concerned, and maybe actually go deranged from it

>>725086897
Maybe Cthulhu causes autism in the first place

>>725084492
zoomers struggle with hypotheticals

>>725086551
Why would I do that? Did I take too many drugs and piss off the hounds of tendelos? If that that's the case I'm just fucked anyways and might as well kms. If that's not the case I'll just keep living in whatever seems like the safest environment at the time, and hope no freaky supernatural shit shows up there.

>>725084445
Another win for absurdist chads

>>725086984
Yeah people underestimate how easy it is to be traumatized. I saw an old woman on TV talk about how she couldnt see cloudy skies without getting really fucked up because she survived a house fire. Imagine a gigantic fucking cthulhu or whatever. And your brain has no point of reference or explanation at all what so ever. And you couldn't tell anyone without being committed to an insane asylum.

>>725086965
I get that. I was just asking whether it was even possible to evade the crazyification that lovecraft entities cause.

As a side note, that might make for a good comedy story. Just a bunch of nobody peasants living in a cosmic horror setting trying not to see or hear anything because its way above their pay grade.

>>725087094
>sees the most horrifically incomprehensible shit imaginable
>"Lol, lmao"

>>725087147
>side note, that might make for a good comedy story. Just a bunch of nobody peasants living in a cosmic horror setting trying not to see or hear anything because its way above their pay grade.

That's exactly what I feel about the government once I started noticing things.

>>725084492
The guy you're replying to literally just fucking said the monster wasn't the point.

>>725086967
>The Hunter in Bloodborne is a killer of beasts, men, beastmen, and things that are between, but the cosmic horror is the notion that the cosmic war of the Great Ones that decimates Yharnam every Night of the Hunt is just a routine mating process that causes catastrophic damage as they attempt to form a child. Not a hint of malice, not a notion of hatred, no intent to destroy beyond their desire to remove an opposing child and to sire a new one of their own. It's all contextual, and putting these two next to each other does and means nothing.
Well put. Look outside also did this fairly well, even if it was played comedically. The incomprehensibly massive being had no idea of the disasters his mere presence caused to earth. Horrified by this, he vows to leave to a dark and desolate corner of space where he can't hurt anyone else.
Almost an example of reverse-cosmic horror. An eldritch entity terrified by the magnitude of its own existence

>>725086495
Carcosa?

>>725086967
So basically what you're saying its like how it must feel to he a fucking mosquito and trying to comprehend why you got squished. Or a cat thing to comprehend why you cut its balls off. Etc.

>>725085013
Underrated post.

What the fuck is wrong with zoomers? Maybe if they understood the entire vacuum of space feels like an empty pool room and we are trapped in it they could understand.

>>725085406
One day you're going to walk into a crack head who stabs you or get some sort of cancer and you're not going to be able to run away and ignore it. Ot some random ass life bullshit it doesnt matter what it is.

>>725083303 (OP)
You could be immortal and never see the entire Universe. There's shit out there, man. Shit we don't understand. Shit we could never understand. A cosmic horror so dark and terrifying beyond all human comprehension.

I don't look towards the sky anymore. I'm afraid if I see them, they'll see me as well. Even God himself avoids their gaze.

>>725083397
I know, you would have to be insane to take the vaxx after reading about the animal trial studies and how they all died. Also it was tested on 12 mice instead of undergoing clinical trials. It's scarier than cosmic horror

>>725087219
>That's exactly what I feel about the government once I started noticing things.
Oi wouldn' be no'ice'n things if oi was you. Is bad for ye 'ealth.

>>725083303 (OP)
I always had the feeling that those tenticle monsters are so far beyond our comprehension that we just see them as tenticle monsters, not as they truly are. Like, you know how we will see faces in chairs and how car headlights + grill will look like a face? Its that same coping mechanism being put into practice to try conceptualize something so foreign and alien that it's truly beyond our understanding. That complete and utter lack of understanding and ability to fathom what said creature actually is breaks us. Couple that with the realization that everything we know about the world and day to day life is so incredibly wrong we just break right down.

Like, it's not so much about the spoopy monsters but about our fundamental understanding of life being inverted, twisted, that we just cant handle it.

Imagine if suddenly, for seemingly no reason at all, random people will just fly off into outer space at super high speeds and the scientific community concludes everything we know about gravity is wrong. That alone would drive plenty of people absolutely fucking insane, knowing that at any second they too could just blast off into space, screaming.

>>725087650
Then I'll just die.

>>725087754
You can't see bacteria, and even if you could you wouldn't be able to tell one is looking at you. "they" don't give two shits about you.

>>725087316
You fully get it.

>>725087332
Honestly I'd say it's probably akin to being made aware of these things moreso than the event itself. Like, imagine if you were said mosquito who was aware that it was in danger of being squished, but to gain a glimpse of understanding that the destruction you faced wasn't related to a survival reflex or a creature's natural inclination to preserve itself, but was in this specific instance was pure rage and hatred towards your entire species. Your existence, as far as you are aware, hinges on your capacity to drink blood. There is no wrongdoing, no malice in your act, no coldness, a measured risk by merit of parasitism, but there could be an entity out there that genuinely carries a cold perspective on your existence that would destroy every one of your species if it could, actively chooses to do so wherever it is possible, and has utilized mechanisms, tools, and other incomprehensible combinations of liquids and materials to create toxins that solely exist to kill you, and for that to simply be a passing thing it just sometimes engages in. Not the sum total of its existence, which you already cannot comprehend, but that degree of true hatred and willfulness to destroy you at every single turn is just a thought that can occur as it spots you, and just as rapidly leave its mind when you are out of its peripheries.

The horror is less the daily risk of figuring out why something that doesn't want you consuming its blood would try to prevent you from doing that(the easiest way obviously being swatting you), but rather an understanding that you are such an insignificance in its world that your knowledge that it could hold joyous thoughts of your species' total destruction, and those thoughts occupy so little of its mind that you rate below the annoyance of the day's weather or the quality of its previous meal. To place that in human context takes work, but that's why PROPER cosmic horror is a hard thing to properly convey.

>>725088050
>Imagine if suddenly, for seemingly no reason at all, random people will just fly off into outer space at super high speeds and the scientific community concludes everything we know about gravity is wrong. That alone would drive plenty of people absolutely fucking insane, knowing that at any second they too could just blast off into space, screaming.
A day in the life of an Australian

>>725083303 (OP)
People have had crises as is just from seeing depictions of how large the universe is. They get a genuine fearful reaction from seeing the scale of things.

>>725088226
So what could humans on Earth do to piss off a great old one like mosquitos piss us off?

Anyone have any good cosmic horror kino? Games, movies or audiobooks would be appreciated.

>>725086967
Actually all of Yharnams calamities can be traced back to the hubris of men fucking with eldritch things they dont understand. The only reason the games main events happen is cause of the School of Mensis, an offshoot of an offshoot of the Healing Church which is a bunch of disturbingly evil religious fanatics who control the town through blood ministration.

>>725088441
low frequency broadcast pornography towards it

>>725083893
it's horror based on how you can't unlearn things and that knowledge changes you perception.
Imagine learning about skinmites. But instead of "whatever", now everytime you see yourself or others, you see little insects crawling allover them, every inch wiggling and crawling.
Worst yet, you feel them on you, every day.

People look at you like you're crazy, but that's because you are. All because you dared to learn about something beyond yourself or because a chance encounter revealed that fact to you.

>>725088441
Something as simple as drinking the wrong kind of water in the wrong kind of place, or something as egregious as full-scale nuclear war with enough noise to piss off something that operates on an intergalactic scale. We could have done something as direct as draining its "blood" and causing an unknowable discomfort, we could have done something as insignificant as "buzzing" in its ear and causing a nuisance at that point, or we could represent another mosquito's opposition as it tries to feed off of the "human" it also wanted to partake in, leading to us fighting around it and amplifying these annoyances.

Imagine if you bumped a spaceship into the side of a celestial network array that was responsible for airing some form of intergalactic entertainment media, and they misinterpreted your exploratory vessel as an offensive missile strike. Why wouldn't they just blow Earth up in entirety and prevent us from fucking with their TV again in the future?

>>725084050
Because it s a genre by and for old religious people to make them freak out and think “what if instead of benevolent magic sky man, indifferent octopus man?”
It’s by and for retards. One of lovecraft’s “horror stories” is literally a guy going insane because he finds out he’s 1/8th Native American.

>>725083397
Right? People still take them and pump their kids full of them despite all the studies revealing they're contrary to positive health outcomes. Insanity indeed.

>>725089268
the studies never find anything conclusive though, antivaxx is all just based on gut feeling and "putting two and two together"

>>725084050
In the modern day, it'd be most comparable to the whole simulation dilemma. If most people learned they lived in a computer simulation, it'd make Cthulhu look pretty tame.

>>725088826
What about all the radio waves we're constantly blaring into deep space? I could see that being really fucking annoying to something that can sense radio waves.

>>725089391
>. If most people learned they lived in a computer simulation, it'd make Cthulhu look pretty tame.
Eh, doesn't really change much

>>725088064
No dont die I need to be proven right about an arguement I wont remember on the internet so you have to stay alive no matter what happens to you.

>>725089646
Waking up in those pod things to a fucking robot squid flushing you down the drain only for random strangers to pick you up in a hover craft while muscular dystrophy is so bad you cant move might as well be the same difference to discovering an eldritch horror in that movie.

>>725088441
Not quite the same thing, but the Sumerian gods tried to wipe us out because we were making too much noise and wouldn't let them sleep.

>>725089785
I'd just take the blue pill.

>>725084050
>how does seeing something incomprehensible drive you mad though?


I saw neovagina a troll posted here last night and my brain couldnt fucking seal with seeing a man with a puffy fake meat...thing. I imagine it's like that but multipled by a trillion.

>>725089403
There have been a lot of speculative fiction that suggests that we really, really should stop doing this until we have a better grasp on space travel. Picrel suggests that the reason why interstellar civilizations are so quiet is because of them existing as a "Dark Forest full of Hunters", less inclined to simply kill whoever they see out of hatred or spite, but rather that a spacefaring civilization of unknowable age, reach, and access to resources might be just as likely to eradicate them as they are to be friendly. The logic dictating that the benefits of diplomacy (positive and negative) are worthy of consideration, but the risk of absolute and unpredictable total destruction by an unknown entity overwrites any potential benefits to diplomacy. It makes it so that the utter annihilation of other spacefaring civilizations (even simply ones where radio waves have been detected briefly from) is the only logical answer, and to suppress any and all "Lights" in this Dark Forest that could be used to detect the Hunters. There's even something in the setting called a Dark Forest Attack, where they don't do anything other than simply activating an extremely long-range beacon of light and sound near an oppositional civilization's galaxy because the presumption is that some unknown/unknowable civilization in the darkness of space will detect it, send out a weapon of incomprehensible power, and utterly and mercilessly destroy your enemy for you.

Honestly it's all really fun to speculate on this kind of thing, because the fear of the unknown can't be stifled, and the more we learn about space, the more we realize we don't know about space.

>>725089670
I don't really think that's up to me. At least the hypothetical cancer wouldn't be. Maybe I could beat the crackhead in a fight.

>>725089349
Believe it or not, I prefer you keep taking them. People that choose not to actually read the available research get what they deserve.

>>725087884
>after reading about the animal trial studies and how they all died
Show me.

>>725089825
Imagine if human thought was the most annoying thing in the universe to beings with psychic perception. The psychic equivalent of a mosquito buzzing in your ear.

I always thought it was something that seemed impossible but the viewer becomes obsessed with figuring it out or explaining it away, but they cant.
Also black people

>>725088226
>measured risk by merit of parasitism, but there could be an entity out there that genuinely carries a cold perspective on your existence that would destroy every one of your species if it could, actively chooses to do so wherever it is possible, and has utilized mechanisms, tools, and other incomprehensible combinations of liquids and materials to create toxins that solely exist to kill you, and for that to simply be a passing thing it just sometimes engages in.

That's actually how I feel about the government and people in power in general. I'm not going go say the jews but oops I said it.

>>725089909
So is there actually anything killing noisy civilizations in the book, or is it all just aliens being quiet causing them to think all the other civilizations are dead.

>bro i can't even describe how scary it is but it's melting my braaaaaaaaaain
lovecraft was a hack.

>>725089349
literally always 100% every time kept preserved and sterilised with the addition of small amounts of mercury or aluminum, which adds up with every jab until your son becomes a seizuring spastic autist tranny, don't believe pharma funded glownigger studies

>>725089914
>available research
some schizo on youtube with 1000 subs isn't research

>>725090168
Yes, Earth gets pancaked by a weapon that literally crushes realspace to a lower dimension, and all of humanity outside of an extremely small group of scientists are wiped out in entirety. There is a race that is hampering all of humanity throughout the first two books, and they get confirmation that their doom is en route because their successful Dark Forest Attack resulted in the oppositional civilization's star being detonated and the feedback completely eradicating the planets their civilization existed in. There were several paths the "noisy" civilizations could have taken to avoid this fate, but some combination of hubris and simple refusal to think outside of the box led to them effectively destroying each other through two different third party proxies.

That being said, they're still really fun books to read. Just know that the story has an exceptionally bitter ending that mostly suggests that retards being in charge of government and the Woman Moment of all Woman Moments in fiction will doom a humanity even emboldened by hyper-advanced tech and some of the smartest minds working together.

>>725088050
Jesus christ, casadastraphobia and 20/20 vision is a living hell I tell you what. Like, looking up into space and I am very aware of the infinite void I'm staring into to the point where my body tenses like I missed a step going down a flight of stairs. I intentionally have to unfocus my eyes and not look too long if I'm gonna look at the sky.

I don't know how I got this condition but I fucking hate it.

I'm the one fag that spent about a year searching for this one story, after going through every fucking thread on the archives with "horror" on the OP I finally managed to find it so I'm gonna repost it a bunch in related threads so I never lose it again.

>>725090441
based autist

>>725083303 (OP)
You're a retard, it's about how humanity is insignificant and is like a grain of sand in front of the universe/the ancient Gods, you can't win against an old God and seeing him will make you go insane, is like showing an ant that his entire World is your garden
It was never about muh tentacles or huge monsters

>>725090441
Thanks broskie. I wonder, do you have that one about the malicious/sadistic earth and "her" children that have learned their way by killing one another and are on their way to consuming the stars beyond as well?

>>725090526
based and lovecraftpilled

>>725090441
Was it autism?

>>725090193
>which adds up with every jab until your son becomes a seizuring spastic autist tranny
yep this is where the "gut feeling" part comes in

>>725090526
>seeing him will make you go insane
why?

>>725084050
I mean I'm easily mad to ragebaiter that shitting on good games without any good reason. It's not that farfetched.

>>725090661
well usually as far as I can tell their existence isnt perceivable by everyone, so its like these weird creatures that youre being gaslit about until you lose your shit

I think girls are pretty scary already.

>>725090526
Cthullu gets defeated by a boat. Even in War of the Worlds the eldritch cosmic beings get beaten by early 1920s technology.

>chugs blue milk
nice try, shithulu.

>>725086627
because that Lovecraft was about, not some God who can destroy the universe with a snap his 1000 fingers, it was about fear of the unkown and mankind itself, that's why is so hard to do a good Lovecraft type of movie/tv show/game, because the retards who do it don't get it, also i liked the movie (pic related something like it but not monsters)

>>725090652
here's your (You) son, I know you're not dumb enough to jab yourself or your very much hypothetical children

>>725086551
That's comfy

>>725083303 (OP)
Whatever you do anons,
NEVER stare long into that dark abyss....

>>725083303 (OP)
The going insane from seeing a mythos entity is a secondaries understanding. They only seem crazy when talking to people who are ignorant of the truth.
It's not insanity it's normies being fucking useless.

>>725090997
is that goatse?

>>725091112
your moms asshole

>>725091182
kek

>>725090421
>casadastraphobia
I didn't know it had a name. Plenty of times I can just look up at the stars and enjoy the beauty of the night sky but every now and then I get this overwhelming fear of just flying off into nothingness so I go inside. Im normally fine during the day time because it's too bright for me to look up. Idk, I get vertigo fairly easily.

Fuck, that's crazy though. I thought I was the only one.

>>725090731
>See cthulu
>Start seething

>>725089914
Most people around the world take them, and enjoy better health outcomes as a society as a result of them. This also includes covid. There were no mass heart attack deaths, enlarged heart valves or whatever were greatly exaggerated and were just a correlation rather than a cause etc.

By the way, Trump did operation Warp Speed that fast tracked the "killer" vaccine you hate so much, and he's been seeking a nobel peace prize over it just as recently as a month ago. That is cosmic horror for the American abominacion.

>>725090539
I never read this one but I'll ask around on creepypasta and other related threads.

>>725091581
You'll be a hero if you can dredge that one up from somewhere.

>>725091692
Fuck me and my autism I guess, sounds like a HFY story so maybe it could be /tg/ I'll keep it in mind and slowly search it.

It kinda feels like a car accident. You think you're in control but youre not, and just before the crash you realize you're just a meatsack in a steel box.

>>725091578
I know 2 people who have heart inflammation after getting the clot shot. All the people dropping dead on live TV is sort of a give away that it was rushed poison.
>Trusting global pharmaceutical corporations and the federal government
Oopsy

>>725083303 (OP)

i think it makes more sense for someone with arachnophobia to just start crying and screaming at it but 10 minutes later they're doing just fine and drinking starbucks.

>>725083303 (OP)
i thought the being was a good cosmic horror villain, and he wasn't scary because it's le incomprehensible, but because of his creations and mystery behind it.

>>725091860
>Not a single link, source, or study, despite an assertion that this is happening frequently enough to warrant paranoid schizophrenic fear responses to it
/pol/ really isn't good for the mind. I know you can't perceive the world without them as your lifeline, but understand that there are better places for you to spend your time.

>see tentacle monster
i am become squid.

>>725092006
Instead of relying on strangers, you could use your fucking eyes and own personal judgment lol
I've never seen young, healthy people just drop dead on live TV until they rolled out the vaxx. If you need a double blind twin study to tell you "Lots of people suddenly dropping dead = bad" idk what to tell you.

has a game ever depicted a being with non-euclidean forms? i don't think so.

>>725092343
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kEB11PQ9Eo8

>>725092272
can you substantiate your claim with any evidence at all, I mean what makes you so certain it’s vaccine and not any number of other health, economic or dietary factors?

Have you considered that your conclusion might be kind of narrow and retarded or do you not really interrogate it much

>>725085406
>>725086946
I've had incredily vivid visual hallucinations since I was a child all the way up till my early 20s. Colors, people, animals, monsters. You have incredibly healthy behaviour, unironically. The only thing that helped me was ignoring them. No matter what true reality is, it's the only correct course of action.
(the "hallucinations" are actually fucking real): your active attention and interaction will draw them to you more and more
(they are actual hallucinations): your active attention and interaction will give a positive response to whatever in your psyche that is generating this, strengthening it

Disassociating to cope with traumatic events is unhealthy, but that is very different from simply closing your eyes and ignoring spooky shit.

>>725083397
You mean the totally new virtually untested class of medicine called a "vaccine" in order to manipulate smoothbrains such as yourself? Yeah man, crazy.

>>725092272
>I've never seen young, healthy people just drop dead on live TV
And that's that.

>>725092538
weren't millions if us supposed to die from the vaccine? i was really looking forward to that.

>>725083397
Dr Fauci, give us vaccines!! Oh my science!!

>>725092461
Before vax, no people dropping dead on live TV
After vax, people dropping dead on live TV

>>725083537
wouldn't work on me btw.

>>725083397
>all these seething replies
stop you're scaring them!

>>725087754
>Even God himself avoids their gaze.
Are you being serious with this?

>>725086168
They should address their desensitisation and not worry so much about "if the Lovecraftian image was real" because it's not true to life anyway, beyond being an obvious figment of some guy's insecure imagination. Even the monster in the OP pic shows body language characteristic of humans in uncomfortable social situations.

>>725088050
Living a functional life was never based on predicting and understanding everything about it, or even most of it. There are many merciful outcomes in life that contrast greatly with the scariest things people can imagine, which is a very telling sign that there is an intelligent and loving God at the center of it all, much to the chagrin of people who would rather immerse in the laborious despair of Lovecraft and other genres of horror.

>>725092680
source?

>>725092538
>totally new virtually untested class of medicine
What the fuck are you talking about, people have been vaccinating themselves for hundreds of years, with variolation ongoing for much longer than that. I don't care what you think about their safety or efficacy, but the "class of medicine" is not new at all.

>>725088463
Shrouded Seascape, a WN.
MC gets isekaid into underground sea world, somewhat like Sunless Sea. He hopes to return back home, but to do that he needs to uncover secrets of that world. He becomes a captain of exploration ship and goes to wacky and scary adventures while trying to stay human. Heavily inspired by Lovecraft and SCP. Local SPC Foundation tried to leverage Ctulhu, what could go wrong with that

>>725091927
What is this one from?

>>725092965
Ill check it out, ty.

>>725083303 (OP)
>I don’t understand cosmic horror
that's the point

>>725092272
>I've never seen so many kids drop dead after visiting the arcades - must've been Evil Otto...

>>725093190
Keep seething and take your booster

>>725083303 (OP)
How would you react if you were met with something that completely shattered your perception of reality?

>>725093282
>>725092006

>>725093759
ask "but can I fuck it?"

ITT people who get anxious in job interviews talk about how it would be no big deal coming face to face with an extradimensional horror

>>725093904
not saying i wouldn't shit my pants. i just dont think my brain would melt.

>>725093904
Is it important to you that people be scared of contrived fictional devices that don't actually exist?

>>725093904
the people who handle job interviews fine go insane if they have to stay at home for 2 weeks

DMT already exists, and it demonstrates how the majority of people are able to withstand being in the fleeting presence of the ineffable. NPCs regularly get mindbroken.

>>725083397
Thanks for the demonstration, you sure riled them up.

>>725093904
I would in all honesty rather encounter something beyond me in some adventure than endure one more hour of the drudgery of 21st century existence.

Here's something you Anons might find interesting
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moche_culture#Religion
>Moche iconography features a figure which scholars have nicknamed the "Decapitator"; it is frequently depicted as a spider, but sometimes as a winged creature or a sea monster: together all three features symbolize land, water and air. When the body is included, the figure is usually shown with one arm holding a knife and another holding a severed head by the hair; it has also been depicted as "a human figure with a tiger's mouth and snarling fangs". The "Decapitator" is thought to have figured prominently in the beliefs surrounding the practice of sacrifice.
>winged creature/spider/sea monster that demands human sacrifices

>>725088119
>"they" see us as bacteria
Damn... thats actually well said and fucking deep.
Humans and even our entire solar system is indeed so insignificant like bacteria in this ginormous universe.

....wtf are we here for?? for NOTHING?! we are all meaningless.. the entire planet is worth NOTHING lol

>>725083303 (OP)
Because cosmic horror doesn't work in visual medium

>>725094182
Sounds like a shoebox yugioh card to me.

>>725083537
It's worth adding onto this
>During Lovecraft's time there were a lot of huge advances in science and art so humankind in general had a stronger feeling of "we're super important and on top of the universe" than 21st century doomscrollers going through an economic depression did, so the idea of the feeling of cosmic unimportance hit harder
>Part of the horror was that the monsters weren't even evil, they didn't even really care about humanity or even weren't aware of them but could still wipe them out and render the story of humanity into dust by accident. ie Earth getting swallowed by a random black hole
>Having your perspective on the world suddenly drastically shifted by being aware of cosmic horrors, but still living in a world full of normal people. So you aren't even insane, you just have anxieties and fears that are perfectly reasonable but nobody else has or believes

>>725083303 (OP)
not a problem in nortubel

>>725093050
darkwood

>>725083303 (OP)
>That doesn’t make any fucking sense.
Exactly.

>>725083893
>you dont need much more
Cool it with the antisemitic rhetoric

>>725084094
>Timelines for events stretched not just from centuries but to hundreds of millions of years. The scale of conflicts didn't just address individuals but entire worlds. The laws of physics were treated as farces. Humanity's ability to understand things was treated as just entirely insufficient to grasp even the most basic of concepts of what the universe was really like.
This sounds awesome. Imagine trying to map all this shit out and connect the dots. Potentially billions of worlds all with their own developmental history rising and falling while a select council of figures remains consistent throughout.

>>725083537
my life barely matters in my own city state let alone a country or a continent
so nothing would change really

>>725094182
Another chimera/nue variation but cool

>>725090441
>AAaiiieEEE they're hunting me doooowwn!!
>im typing this on my typewriter
what a larping schizo retard. Maybe stop playing so much Persona 3 while he's at it lol
We need to open mental institutions and make them great again

>>725094393
>Tumblr whale smarter than all of /v/
Dark times

>>725094119
Wish granted.

>>725094393
This seems like a very dressed up way of saying "redpilled".

>>725083303 (OP)
>goes insane because he can’t comprehend it?
they go insane because they CAN comprehend something and can't go back to blissful ignorance anymore

>>725085042
I doubt you would be the only one to be blessed with such knowledge given the scaling nature of power in our given society. Like someone who sits higher up on the food chain realizing that there is something that exists above them and even their own gods used as a cope to ward off the void. There would be a sick sense of comfort knowing that death is the true equalizer that is the universal standard across all walks of existence.

>>725092343
Is there non euclidean porn

I feel like everyone is ignoring how at least one of is would fuck all the elder gods like McAfee fucks the whales

>>725092824
this is exactly the kind of fucking goober i'm talking about.

flatland is higher dimension cosmic horror from the perspective of a square

>>725083303 (OP)
if you saw something like that in real life you'd piss your pants, that is if what you saw was something mundane like the pic, something that a human can imagine, if you saw something truly alien your monke brain would short circuit and you'd just go insane
lovecraft had the capacity to at least try and imagine what it would be like, but yes it often falls flat for people with no imagination

>>725092343
Paradigm Worlds gets pretty close if you consider a walking texture and mesh glitch to be non-euclidean.

>>725094641
Neo-/v/ is so incomprehensibly brown and stupid that i am going insane just trying to think about it. Like it's not unintelligent, it's anti-intelligent.

>>725093904
Humanity is a meme. The real wonder is everything that exists beyond this fake and gay world.

>>725095238
>>725083303 (OP)
something like pic rel would literally drive me insane if i saw it irl

>>725094308
>but could still wipe them out and render the story of humanity into dust by accident
It's exactly this. It's pic related but for humans. "Horton hears a Who" should be required reading before playing Bloodborne, desu.

>>725094980
Fingolian Khaganate > Hwan Empire > Atlantian Empire > Commune of Lemuria > Martian Colonies > Early Hyperborea > Agartha

>>725083893
If you suddenly became aware that there are beings out there so impossibly vast and powerful that they could end life as we know it by accident, without a single shred of actual malice towards us (because they do not even know we exist), I'm pretty sure you'd be pretty distressed for a while.

>>725084094
>His fellow writers went different directions aesthetically at different times, but he was widely respected and emulated

No one read his works in his time and he died in poverty.

>>725084441
In his stories characters who have religious faith tend to fare better against madness, it's the rationalists who have bad time.

>>725096045
>the thought that there is something so powerful just floating through space that it can strafe your entire planet and go back on its merry way like nothing ever happened
Imagine watching your average megalomaniac going through the five stages of grief in real time over the thought of a bigger fish. One that doesn't even acknowledge your presence despite the literal millions that have been sacrificed. In the name of a minor resident deity who can't even hope to match it pound for pound.

Night Land is better

>>725096045
we already have trillionaires who are genociding your people and you don't care

Imagine being so eager to believe in anything other than God that you associate the truth of the universe with a bunch of incoherent spaghetti monsters instead.

>>725096045
Sounds fantastic!! you mean the filthy kikes, billionaires and poojeets will all get erased in an instant with ZERO survivability?? SIGN ME UP! id gladly vanish along with everyone.

....but first we need robot waifus and full dive VR, then you can summon the cosmic dreads to flick our earth into powder. So in 20 yrs pls

>>725096049
The number of authors that have died rich is miniscule, even among the successful.
LC was well known enough to get cross-over work with celebrities like Harry Houdini.
He was never wealthy or successful like he wanted, but half of that was him living beyond his means trying to sustain an aristocratic household as a single man writing itinerantly for small publishers.
He was respected as a writer and artist and engaged in large fan correspondences beyond his economic gain.

>>725093759
I don't hold on to this reality and I am deeply emotionally sedated, too much to care about any possible eldritch outcomes. Nevertheless I believe what can make me flinch is learning that existence and consciousness goes on indefinitely no matter your physical state. No end in sight.

>>725096045
I mean, isn't that just meteors and black holes and stuff?

>>725093904
I'm fighting orphan of kos naked and stay afterwards in kos' nightmare if it means I don't have to talk to HR, government workers, my landlord, etc etc etc

>>725096295
>he thinks an aaaall powerful deity that's not even visible NOR proven to ever exist is more """real"""" than actual aliens beings lying in the depths of the vast universe
lol
lmao even muh dood.

>>725094182
Moche means ugly in french.
he's just insecure

>>725083893
Based retard has impenetrable mental fortitude, I kneel

>>725094902
how long before this but dark green slimey monolithic esher painting sunken city

>>725083303 (OP)
Imagine you're an ant, or an ant-like creature. You live in an anthouse, you have your place in the ant society, you're content and as happy as you can be, basically. Your anthill is thriving, and you basically think that ants surely are a pinnacle of creation, created by a loving god (whom you imagine as a big, bearded ant) to inherit this yard.

Now imagine you have suddenly been uplifted and came face to face with a human, and you have just enough intelligence to realize the horrible truth. There's a bigger, wilder world out there. A world of creatures who are so much smarter than you. A world of creatures who exterminated countless anthills. A creature which uplifted you considers itself to be the owner of your entire world, and will exterminate your entire civilization without any second thoughts if you ever become an inconvenience.

Then you fall down and crawl back to your anthill, but nothing makes sense in life anymore now that you've seen the awful truth of the cosmos. That's cosmic horror.

>>725096250
It's seriously hampered by the stylistic choice in writing, and the "translated" version lacks the literary chops of the original. So it's stuck in this limbo where you either cave in and read the clearer version or go full autism and learn to love the flowery prose.

>>725090997
whenever I tried watching it my stream got cut I have to do it again. What am I in for?

>>725096295
Imagine posting gaylo like a faggot

>>725095760
do you have thre fiddies?

>>725083537
>>725083893
>>725084492
>>725094308
I'd say not even that is the best examples and outcomes. The true eldrich cosmic horror you can't escape is no fear as in terror based... no... It is knowing that you don't know shit and you barely comprehend things but only partially... the real kicker? Often just for a few moments you grasped it on a deeper astral plane. Like an ant understanding things from the persepctive of a human, but then it turns back to seeing a computers as some weird prison of electrons.
It's not fear in simply knowing you're outclassed. It is fear and addiction in knowing your perception is so unfathomably limited and such a weak meaninglessness compared to your prior perception that nothing else matters. THAT is cosmic HORROR. THAT is why cults would raise like crack addicts in a crack then, that is why it's creppy even terror inducing, you don't know why you feel a certain way, but you know that it is undoubtably true unless you're delusional wich makes you even more ninsane than the alleged insane.
>The world sees a maniac
>Cultists saw someone that grasped the truth only to be leashed back to the mortal chains
>You grow insane slowly by trying to reach and or understand what you saw

>>725094308
>>During Lovecraft's time there were a lot of huge advances in science and art so humankind in general had a stronger feeling of "we're super important and on top of the universe"

I'm gonna be honest, that feels as alien to me as eldritch gods and indescribable monstrosities.

>>725090441
>creepypasta that is essentially Attack on Titan PATHS
Based Eren Yeager

>>725095659
we are long past the point of anons pretending to be stupid. Now anons just are.
Even bait today are disappointing.

>>725096704
The problem is that any adult with an IQ over like 110 and without religious schizophrenia already knows they’re an ant.
It’s a genre for people that are retarded and/or already insane.

>>725096930
>I'm gonna be honest, that feels as alien to me as eldritch gods and indescribable monstrosities.
Demoralization and its consequences

>>725086495
>Hp Lovecraft is the greatest writer of all time
read more books

>>725094393
Poor example, if only because the average human would have about as much understanding of a circuit board as an ant would

>>725097029
It's a genre that came into prominence when the vast majority were religious, so you kinda have to be there. But also, it's one thing assuming that there are powers much greater than (you), and another thing meeting one of those powers face to face.

>>725095826
same with flatland. people should either read it or watch some adaptation on youtube
>>725094980
its a great thought exercise on higher dimensional beings can be but from a perspective that is intuitive since 3d is the higher dimension

>>725095659
>Neo-/v/ is so incomprehensibly brown and stupid that i am going insane just trying to think about


I've been in that same situation before I had to take a long break from 4chan. But then I realized I'm in canada and surrounded by real brown people and I came back. Including terrible brown doctors who will probabaly get me killed one day.

The real horror is realizing how brown and stupid the world is now. That will actually drive you mad.

>>725083303 (OP)
>I don’t understand cosmic horror
AAAAAAAAIIIIIIIIIEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

>>725095659
Why blame it on "brown" when it's white evangelical christians embracing anti-intellectualism en masse.

>>725097774
Because they shit in toilets.

>>725094902
how do you code something like that?

>>725083303 (OP)
If a higher 4th and beyond dimensional being appeared in front of you, you wouldn't even be able to fathom what you're looking at. It would be ethereal and formless and yet forming something, and going in and out of existence, it's simply beyond comprehension. It probably would look like fucking phantom tentacles and rays and shit.

>>725090756
>Even in War of the Worlds the eldritch cosmic beings get beaten by early 1920s technology.
War of the world has the aliens being beat by their own hubris. And then it tries to sell the idea that they would never have made it, despite having no opposition.

>>725090997
>>725090526
>>725083303 (OP)
fucking retards

>https://youtu.be/bwz6g44ZjUI
Look at sprites for example, not the fairy / willo wisps kind, but the lightning variety. But they might be related, since they're orb of lights. The red lightning sprites are extremely rare natural phenomenon, but look it up. It looked like a giant tentacle monster up in the sky. Who's to say it's not some higheher dimensional entity, briefly appearing and become visible to our lowly 3rd dimensional sight?

>>725083303 (OP)
Your life is already pointless, pathetic, and you don't understand shit or even why you would want to understand. You are incapable of understanding cosmic horror because that'd just every day to you. Now we don't need unknowable entities accidently destroying us, we just have to imagine being (You) and we feel it.

>>725090997
That poor motherfucker in the tent.

>>725083397
lmao amazing thread derailer.

>>725083303 (OP)
That's why I disagree that Bloodborne and others with combat are ineffective at cosmic horror because you can kill the things. The fact that death won't stop them if anything is more powerful. With strange aeons even death may die and so on.
They're not powerful because we don't have enough firepower to kill them, they're powerful because to them death does not matter.
Kos was already dead when mankind first made contact with it.

so you are saying that i must be retard so that this concept of horror does nothing to me

>>725099494
Not just retarded, retarded and pathetic

>>725089349
My sister was never vaccinated until she had to in order to get into college.
She got bell's palsy a few weeks later.

>>725099494
if you drink enough you're good too.

>>725099483
>>Kos was already dead when mankind first made contact with it.
she's just like me fr fr

>>725090997
I love Lovecraft and heard so much praise for this movie but it was fucking shit and the ending was as far from Lovecraft as you could get.

>>725099920
oh yea?

>>725100794
Yeah.

>>725090526
>you can't win against an old God
Of course I can. Humanity is capable of anything no matter how much cosmic horror fags whine about it.

>>725100914
Dis nigga can't accept his futility lmao

>>725083303 (OP)
imagine if you could impart the knowledge of just crypto-currency into the brain of an ant. nothing else about us as humans. JUST the knowledge of crypto.
imagine what that would do.
that's what is happening in cosmic horror.

>>725100953
>t.

>Shartborne
Not Lovecraft

>>725101089
Good. Lovecraft is boring as fuck and has been surpassed by many.

>>725101089
how astute of you! op for sure did not say lovecraft!

>>725083303 (OP)
i don't get it either
i'm gonna try my best because it's fun to do things
let's go

>>725085013
it reminds me of the guy who lived in big cities all his life and being in a forest makes him depressed
it's people used to so much noise that silence makes them scared

In>>725085013
The fear is being trapped indoors and starving to death.

>>725083303 (OP)
Yeah it doesn't really make sense. The closest thing in real life is a psychedelic trip which can absolutely make you see something that will make you insane.

Lovecraft suffered from endless horrific nightmares though which is why he wrote what he did (although he wasn't even remotely the first, William Hope Hodgeson's works like "House on the Borderland" and "Night Land" describe a man going crazy and finding a portal to another planet which is dead and he finds a temple to an ancient god that's impossibly large, thousands of feet tall stretching to infinity in a barren, almost Mars like, landscape devoid of any other features save for the single terrible statue to a long dead god whose name will never be remembered despite his hideous offspring will plaguing our minds for all time.

Good shit. Hell even places like Carcosa which Lovecraft uses as a location in his lore comes from The King in Yellow.

The reason Lovecraft is remembered best is fairly random but probably due to his prolificness and the sheer amount he wrote and published. His stories were in "weird tales" publications for decades before he ever really became a household name.

>>725089941
The scientific establishment has deemed anything negative about vaccines as pseudo-science that will get you stripped of all your credentials.

How the fuck would anyone provide evidence you deem acceptable when the people who decide what you think is acceptable refuse to accept that MRNA might be bad maybe in some way.

You're basically asking for a scientist in Nazi Germany to prove Jews are NOT subhuman.
(See how I put it in your terms so you can understand?)

>>725083397
fpbp, really got the crazies to shake the branches lmao.

>>725083893
Lovecraft's stuff was written during the transition from superstitious Christian tradition to secular scientific rationalism. That was 200 years ago, so we've been desensitized to it for many generations. But when atheism first "dropped" in the late 19th century, it gave many former Christians an existential crisis

>Muh Lovecraft
Rats in the Walls and Dagon are the only stories where the MC actually goes insane in the membrane (or was insane from the start).

Maybe read his works before spewing random bullshit?

>>725099619
puttin two and two together

>>725102378
You're forgetting the most iconic example, in At the Mountains of Madness

>>725087548
>What the fuck is wrong with zoomers?
Lack of any 'real' experience that isn't part of a group activity or digital. You know how kids prior to 2000 were occasionally tossed outside to go play with friends or otherwise left alone?
Zoomers were and are never, ever left alone until they were adults. Then as soon as they hit that mark most had to get shitty jobs that pay a non-living wage. So of course their horror is the broken down places like Malls that no one goes too anymore because the economy shit the bed and everyone goes online.

>>725102457
Danforth spots SOMETHING in the distance and panics. That's it

>>725102528
He literally starts screaming the language of the Elder Things at the top of his lungs. That's more than just panicking, that's full-blown "AAAAAA I'M GOING INSANE SAVE ME NIGGERMAN'

>>725102489
you think of gen alpha. Early zoomers were tossed outside to go play with friends too

>>725102730
So a panic attack, good to know. It seems to me that most people equate extreme fear and brief psychosis attacks with 'my brain is mush'. It has some merit to it, all PTSDfags should be locked up in padded cells, amrite?

>>725083893
It's just one aspect, basically the atom of a drop of the newfound knowledge is already enough to flip your perception of the whole reality as you perceived it so far. Everything you ever did or will do amounts to nothing but pointlessness in a way that couldn't be described in words. Intentionally so because naming or making things specific takes the illusion away.
You may say "I don't care" but the way cosmic horror is laid out is that it's impossible for anyone capable of thought to withstand the mental assault, thus degrading your mind and/or what you believed to be true.
Keep in mind that most people in the works don't go insane from 0-100 instantly but it's an eroding process that perforated your mind more and more until you can't help but admit the "truth" - whatever that may be - which most of the time ends in suicide or insanity.

>>725102378
The character in the short "What the Moon Brings" literally drowns themselves (after having shrieked in terror) due to what they see emerging from the sea.

All horror is just pure gringe.

>>725103606
>Escape that results in death

>>725083893
>>725083303 (OP)
You're looking at this at an all too human perspective. The point is that it is entirely alien. Beyond comprehension. The tentacles and extra eyes aren't real, or maybe they are, but it's only one side of many. Your brain is trying to fill space in which it really can't because it simply cannot perceive beyond human comprehension. And that's the point - it's beyond us in it's entirety.

If you can't understand why that would induce madness, you're a lost cause.

>>725097896
you sacrifice an electric sheep

>>725083893
>anon is literally too self-absorbed and dumb to be harmed by brushing against the eldritch
B A S E D

>>725083537
I've read a bunch of Lovecraft and didn't get that impression. Would you go crazy if you discovered humanity's insignificance? Most people here already think we're insignificant. It's also not true to the stories where people fight off Cthulhu and breed with monsters. If we're insignificant then why is Yog-Sothoth giving us invisible goat babies? In real life, you could argue smarter people, like scientists, have a better understanding of how the world works, and does this make them go mad? No. It might make them nihilistic or careless in a way, but not frothing mad. If you knew the future or the consequence of every action, you would behave differently than you are now, and would appear strange to others, like a man showing to others how to walk on coals or remove the poison from an animal before eating it, but why would you have a mental breakdown?

Most Lovecraft stories are just about consternation or discovering your grandfather was a fish. I think he was inspired by the idea that crazy people were not mindbroken, but rather that they might be telling the truth, and to us that'd look crazy. But in truth, I can only think of one Lovecraft story where a guy goes crazy looking at a Great Old One and it's At the Mountains of Madness. I haven't seen other people say this, but I was like 51% sure he was a shoggoth in disguise. Shoggoths are blobs that can create whatever body parts they want and eventually replaced and mimicked their creators. Our last remaining two protagonists run into one and get chased by it. The MC loses both of them before eventually running back into his companion, who somehow lost his jacket. Then they get in the helicopter and he starts speaking like the pickles and ends up thrown in an asylum. The MC says he lost his mind, but did anyone else notice that extremely sus passage? You lost your friend, who was being chased by a shapeshifter, and he comes back alone wearing different clothes?

>>725104621
>I think he was inspired by the idea that crazy people were not mindbroken, but rather that they might be telling the truth, and to us that'd look crazy
It's mostly this

>>725083303 (OP)
SQUIDS!

>>725096045
The universe is full of black holes.
They aren't stationary, they're constantly whizzing around.
Our solar system could collide with one next week.
Our sun would be consumed, the earth would be consumed, we would be consumed.
Nothing would remain to mark our existence.

Ay Nyarlathotep, dap me up

>>725105681
True, and some people find that notion terrifying.

>>725105681
white people are already going extinct and civilization is going to collapse

>>725099483
There is only one truth:
> It is always possible to become *more* dead.

I think one of the bggedt factors separating cosmic horror from regular horror is the breakdown of the separation between the fantastical and the mundane.
Like, take Dracula for example. There's "our" world, England, and the "other" world, Transylvania. Our world works how we expect, based on logic and reason, it is a world we tamed that is free of the horrors of the night. When Dracula comes to England, he brings the otherness of Transylvania to our world, and for the time he's here turns it into a nightmarish realm due to his influence. But once Dracula is slain, this connection is severed, our world returns to normal and the influence of the other world subsides.
In cosmic horror however, while we start with this separation between our world and the other world, by the end of the book it's shattered. In the Call of Cthulhu for example, it ends on the note of "R'yleh is still down there and one day the stars will be right and all humanity will die as the Great Old Ones shall rise from down below". Or in the Whisperer in Darkness, ending with the discovery of the planet Pluto, which in actuality is the base of the Mi-Go, Yuggoth, implying that their invasion is about to begin. Cosmic horror is delving into the depths of hell, crawling your way out, looking around and realizing that you never actually went anywhere, that the world was always hell and it was just your perception of it that made you refuse to acknowledge it as such. It's the lifting of the veil on the true horrors of, well, the cosmos. It's learning that you were never truly safe.

>>725099483
>Kos was already dead when mankind first made contact with it.
Anon I...

>>725097320
I have this experience with lady bugs all the time. For some reason, maybe because it's cold, they keep showing up. I turned my shower on and found one about to be sent to the brimey deep, but caught it and placed it near the window to escape.

>>725101006
Nothing.
It would do nothing.
The ant simply would not comprehend.
>AHA! But there's my poi-
No.
It wouldn't break.
It's psyche wouldn't liquify and seep from its head as frenzied gibbering.
The aren't simply would not comprehend and go about its business.

The key does not fit the lock, even the tip cannot enter.
The key cannot get stuck in the lock.
The key cannot damage the lock.
The key touches the keyhole, presses against it futilely, and is then withdrawn.
That is all.

>>725086064
Thread should have ended here.

Cosmic horror is when you are confronted with a formless, unknowable horror that only LATER turns out to be a really big spider. It's just regular horror if you know it's a really big spider from the start.

>>725105906
>Our world works how we expect, based on logic and reason
Well, considering when cosmic horror emerged, in classic horror you still had the impression that benevolent God exists and monsters are an aberration, a spawn of Satan. In cosmic horror, God exists but he doesn't care about humans, also he's an alien.

>>725083303 (OP)
>Some random dude looks at a creature with tentacles or a few extra eyes and goes insane because he can’t comprehend it? That doesn’t make any fucking sense.
You find out that the only reason your entire species exist is because you're a food for another, grown like a shrimp in a vat to be harvested. And it's not some theoretical what if, you feel it in your bones, you know it's the truth. Would you not go mad?

>>725096250
I found the concept beyond awesome, but execution was dogshit

>>725103210
Unironically yes.
We should bring asylums back.

>>725105865
>Two ways that civilization could collapse and both of them involve 'black' things.
Coincidence???

>>725094217
Value, like art, is generated in the one who is looking. 8 billion people don't value your life. But most value humanity. Thus humanity has value.

True meaning can be found only if the universe is truly meaningless.

>>725106170
Ah, but the key does start to fit the lock. Lock hole, however, is much shorter than the key - and millimeters in it become clear, that the key is for another lock altogether, quickly stops being straight, is for inseerting like a screw, but changing direction every few notches, rotates on his own around different axis - "key doesn't fit" is the very best case scenario of all possible situations - the further you're in on secrets, the better you start to imitate "proper" lock - and to stray further away from your god-given form (or at least from the one your brethen have).

>>725106290
No.
I'd assert dominance by killing and devouring the predator species member by member.
> You can't. They're far too-
Pussy shit.
Fucking watch me.

>>725096045
>If you suddenly became aware that there are beings out there so impossibly vast and powerful that they could end life as we know it by accident, without a single shred of actual malice towards us (because they do not even know we exist), I'm pretty sure you'd be pretty distressed for a while.

Imagine being too retarded to have your mind blasted by sudden, catastrophic understanding.
Must be why all the cultists in Lovecraft's works were degenerate, swarthy browns.

>>725101123
>and has been surpassed by many.

I notice Lovecraft lovers hate the concept of the “indomitable human spirit” compared to other scifi franchises. Makes me wonder if theres overlap between fandoms like 40k or Lovecraft and others.

>>725083303 (OP)
>>725084050
In most stories its more like he accidentally communicates psychically with a superior being, even if only by accident on its part and it shatters his mind because he can't comprehend the consciousness of what it was. as an example
>be spider
>human grabs you
>instills human intelligence and awareness in you
>suddenly realize there is technology, gadgets and entire species that "speak" with each other, and have populated every inch of the planet
>realize there is a planet
>realize there are stars, you exist, you can think, etc
>then this higher learning, this higher understanding is stripped of you
>but you remember understanding this, knowing this
Fucks with your head on repeat.

On the other end, the people are usually just regular people, often from a university, because lovecraft loves school settings, and they get themselves embroiled in something way beyond them, like herbert west, and it traumatizes them. It's easy to say you wouldn't care if a massive creature with tens of thousands of tentacles and eyes suddenly exploded out of the water and looked at you, but realistically, this would fuck you up for a long time, same thing if your longtime friend kept trying to be Dr Frankenstein and suddenly all his "failed" experiments suddenly walked in, bound him up and left with him, and told you to fuck off. You wouldn't just "forget" that.

>>725107235
Life isn't TTGL. People go mad over perfectly mundane things every day, but you never hear about the guy who avoided being hit by a car by willing it to stop. Lovecraftian madness is believable: people ending up in the madhouse because they had a mental break after witnessing something that they couldn't possibly convey to others just works as a literary tool.

>>725107235
Are we now ignoring works where the protagonists kill ayy lmaos? Or do you want full blown power fantasy?

>>725107235
>hate the concept of the “indomitable human spirit” compared to other scifi franchises
no that's post modernists.

cosmic horror is jsut based on the premise that the indomitable human spirit is shatttered against the scary unknown, which is indeed horrifying. To find it horrifying one should at the very least care about and believe in the indomitable human spirit, don't you think?

>>725087754
>You could be immortal and never see the entire Universe
Isn't that by definition? The universe is expanding beyond the speed of light or some shit? So you could realistically never see all of it?

>>725084050
one of the endings of Look Outside explains what it would feel like
(obvious spoilers for those who want to play it)
https://youtube.com/watch?v=ojxiLR3Lofc&pp=0gcJCR4Bo7VqN5tD

>>725107443
>but you never hear about the guy who avoided being hit by a car by willing it to stop.
Nta, but you never hear about a car trying to hijack your mind and put the entire Wikipedia along with several miners and trojans there - so far. E.Y.E. can arrive with this new brain implants in 50-70 years. Lovecraft just allows for man-machine-god interaction through broadcast transmitters in gods.

>>725083303 (OP)
Abominations are only good when they're rendered in PS1 graphics imo

>>725083893
insanely based life enjoyer

>>725108248
>Not ASCII

>>725083893
NOOOOO YOU SUPPOSED TO BE DRIVEN INSANE YOU CAN'T OVERCOME COSMIC HORROR

>>725107235
There's a VN where the main character fights Lovecraft characters in a giant robot.

Name some games, if you're so great.

>>725107235
i mostly hate that none really bothers doing a good comsic horror villain/obstacle for the indomitable human spirit to overcome, closest to that was Tenge Toppa Gurenn Lagan but still Anti-Spiral was more "human-like" with his flaws like "having to teach "spirals" the meaning of despair".

>>725109310
Getter Robo has a cosmic entity that weaponizes the indomitable human spirit

>>725109757
that's kinda sick actually

>>725087754
>Even God himself avoids their gaze.
Then he isn't God, the creator of the universe.

>>725109825
It starts off as a wacky, gory super robot series but things goes pretty crazy by the last half of Shin Getter Robo. You should read it

>>725105681
>>725105831
Sounds like something atheists would worry about. I'm not one of course so I am well aware God won't let that happen even if it was possible

>>725083893
if tomorrow, you learned that the simulation theory was real and this whole thing was an experiment, you'd break down
you arent above your humanity

>>725110023
Most religion never had an omnipotent omniscent supreme god

Be not afraid.

DUDE
BIBICALLY
ACCURATE

>>725110579
Yeah when have christians ever worried about the end of the world? Oh wait.

>>725083303 (OP)
It's because they forget that racism is intrinsic to concept. In a nutshell it's the idea that there is something with an entirely different thought process than you separated by an unknowable number of years in culture. You can't understand what it really wants or why it does what it does and trying to grasp at it would be the work of a lifetime.

>>725083303 (OP)
It's not that, it's supposed to be so alien that your brain, seeing it and trying to make sense of it, fries itself.
When ingesting psychedelics, people often see "impossible" patterns, shapes, fractals; during a bad trip, they think it will make them insane, especially if they delve "deeper" into the infinitely repeating patterns within the fractals they see when they close their eyes.
The idea is that the lovecraftian beings are so out of this world that seeing their physical appearance and trying to make sense of it does to your brain what extremely bright light does to your eyes or extremely loud sounds do to your eardrums.

>>725109065
And it's fucking sick.

>>725083303 (OP)
Modern pop culture did unrepairable damage to this niche sub-sub-sub-subgenre.

>>725097029
it's easy to think that, much harder when you have to face it. one thing is knowing heat death as a concept, entirely another discovering it's actually around the corner.

>>725083303 (OP)
It doesn’t make any sense
Snese ti oesmnt yna
doemke ys make make make sense
It doesn’t make
It doesnt
It

>>725107235
There’s a difference between the indomitable human spirit and the power of friendship

>>725106170
The lack of comprehension IS the madness

>>725083303 (OP)
>>725106170
>ant leaves pheromones to human's window
>other ants eventually frustrated by this
>leave it far away from the colony
>is eaten by a bird
The trouble with Lovecraft's work, is that it's mostly consumed now by the kinds of ignorant and mouthy ESLs he hated most.

>>725094594
Did you even read the story? He accepts his fate and knows his place. Retard.

>>725083303 (OP)
Lovecraft was a terminal bedroom dweller, lived with his mother, and was literally that meme where white people walk on the other side of the street from black people
The guy was verbose and creative but underestimated the elasticity and adaptability of the human mind, literally filtered by the first "whoa dude what if we're like atoms" high school thought he had.

Lovecraft has to be one of the most overrated authors of all time, if you read his complete stories you'll notice how his entire corpus consists of four or five archetypal stories that he recycles over and over. Not to mention is prose isn't anything special and the fact that he was racist towards Italian and Poles just sound extremely silly today. He was a pretty shoddy wordsmith who had one good intuition and milked the fuck out of it.

>>725117325
Is there anywhere I can buy the game ?

>>725087094
Lovecraft wrote absurdist stories.
Check out “Till A’ the Seas”

>>725084445
Also worth noting his portrayal of catholics, with their rituals and chanting shown as a weird, alien thing by Lovecraft (a typical WASP attitude at the time) but this also seemingly providing some immunity from the horrors of the universe. From this perspective cosmic horror can also be understood as a sort of self-critique of the rationalistic, WASP-driven progressive culture dominant in the northeast at that time.

>>725086495
>the king in yellow
Underwhelming, imo.
I liked the story about the guy getting spirited away by the medieval ghost princess though. That was comfy.

Ok bros, need some shit to read. Where should I start with Lovecraft?

Thats not how it works, really. The tentacles are just the last straw.

>>725123028

Just get a compilation book of his stories, theres plenty of them.

>>725123028
Same here, need to know

>>725123028
>>725123816

https://www.amazon.com/H-P-Lovecraft-Complete-H-P/dp/1435122968

>>725083537
no, it's more about incomprehensible things that drive your brain crazy. which is way cooler than what you describe.

>>725124312

Its both. They find out theres murderous cults, hideous creatures hidden on Earth, a cold uncaring universe where man doesn't matter and one day will be exterminated without a shred of mercy...THEN they see a freaky alien, and their brain goes "okay, thats it, I'm out".

>>725123028
www.hplovecraft.com/writings/fiction/

read mountains of madness

Bunp

they're not just tentacle monsters, they're more like Picasso paintings with MC Esher geometry shifting and changing like a tesseract that also have tentacles.

go watch videos of monkeys seeing the open sky for the first time

>>725083537
>he goes insane because he comprehends how pathetic and insignificant his existence is.

Stopped reading there.
Sounds like retarded poopy doomy shit, and sounds like you need to get slapped like a dumb bitch

>>725096930
>>725097040
I think this is a cycle.
HP Lovecrafts are aimed at periods where the general attitude is "Humanity, fuck yeah!"

>>725133057

Hey, blame Lovecraft. He was pessimistic and cynical as fuck.

>>725097896
https://youtube.com/watch?v=_ZSFRWJCUY4

>>725083303 (OP)
All media flanderizes indescribable horror,because it tries to describe it. Your description does the same, because you rely on media portrayal of such things.
YOU CAN COMPREHEND HUMAN'S PORTRAYAL OF INDESCRIBABLE HORROR BY NATURE OF IT BEING DESCRIBED TO YOU.
True concept of indescribable horror fucks your brain. Normally humans tend to be weary of things they don't understand, if not treating such things as danger. You can't understand un-understandable period.
Lovecraft tries to explain Ctulhu as only the seaman's brain best tries to comprehend him. This "try" is the most popular portrayal of Ctulhu. But it's only a try to comprehend, and anything that is imaginable by the human brain is automatically comprehensible.

>>725096328
These are the guys sucking off the amish while desperate for their slop.

>>725083893
Based retarded insignificant worm

>feel dizzy, lose my balance and forget to breath when i think about the vastness of space

I getcha howard. My boy. My pal.

>>725083303 (OP)
If you saw cthulu in real life you would shit your pants to so stop acting like you are some sort of badass.