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Anonymous No.725144884 [Report] >>725144958 >>725145260 >>725146202 >>725146269 >>725146956 >>725148034 >>725151605 >>725151994 >>725152837 >>725155145 >>725157925 >>725158072 >>725160904 >>725164329 >>725175826 >>725183228 >>725184915
Was it really that good to be considered the greatest role playing game if all time?

Seems kinda novelty now?
Anonymous No.725144939 [Report] >>725151480
Zelda is an action adventure franchise
Anonymous No.725144958 [Report] >>725149876 >>725151480 >>725186175
>>725144884 (OP)
Nobody calls it an rpg
It's always been classified under the broad umbrella of action-adventure
Anonymous No.725145178 [Report]
It's exceptional for it's time and trying to argue what the "best thing ever" is just becomes retarded shit flinging
Anonymous No.725145206 [Report]
my god how underaged are you
Anonymous No.725145260 [Report] >>725186746 >>725186921
>>725144884 (OP)
It's an adventure game.
And yes, it's still the greatest game of all time.
Anonymous No.725145489 [Report]
yes and yes
Anonymous No.725145529 [Report] >>725162642
>UH OOT IS LE BAD
Get new material.
Anonymous No.725145645 [Report] >>725145714
Anonymous No.725145704 [Report] >>725145874 >>725174492 >>725180532
Erm.. Zelda are puzzle-Adventure games
Ocarina of Time is more of a 3D A Link to the Past and I prefer ALTTP more despite being limited to 2D it gave a more consistent experience
Normamfags that never played the previous entries still praise OOT for novelty it did not have
Anonymous No.725145714 [Report] >>725145793 >>725145926 >>725172556
>>725145645
what did she do?
Anonymous No.725145793 [Report] >>725145859
>>725145714
Wouldn't you like to know.
Anonymous No.725145859 [Report]
>>725145793
I mean, yeah, I just asked
Anonymous No.725145874 [Report]
>>725145704
a link to the past is overrated trash like all games on the snes
Anonymous No.725145926 [Report]
>>725145714
start doing this
Anonymous No.725145996 [Report]
https://youtube.com/shorts/L16VKJEG3Dk?si=HGpLx2RgJzP0lFAj
Anonymous No.725146021 [Report] >>725146153 >>725149119 >>725152432
zelda is a role playing game
you are telling me that if everytime Link beats an enemy, he gets exp and level up, then it becomes a role playing game? that's the line?
Anonymous No.725146153 [Report] >>725146316
>>725146021
you play the role of link the adventurer though, simple as that
Anonymous No.725146202 [Report]
>>725144884 (OP)
>role playing
I think you don't know what that means
Anonymous No.725146269 [Report] >>725146496 >>725146805
>>725144884 (OP)
It was always shit and only tendies who weren't playing things that weren't on the N64 in the 90s pretended otherwise. Now watch them pretend game journalists back then weren't the same non-game playing retards who know less than nothing about games they are now.
Anonymous No.725146316 [Report] >>725146604
>>725146153
Chess is a roleplaying game because you play the role of the king commanding your forces.
Anonymous No.725146472 [Report]
Zelda was always considered an Action Adventure series not an RPG. Now yes you could say Zelda 2 was an RPG but overall the franchise is more action adventure orientated.
Anonymous No.725146496 [Report]
>>725146269
No one will be talking about E33 decades after its release. Cope.
Anonymous No.725146604 [Report] >>725146889
>>725146316
Actually, if you remove levels and numbers from Final Fantasy, isn't just chess?
Anonymous No.725146619 [Report]
it's a game that does what it needs to
indie-devs should look at these older titles for inspiration.

https://www.zeldadungeon.net/wiki/Ocarina_of_Time_Staff
Anonymous No.725146805 [Report] >>725185143
>>725146269
I had a PS1 and N64 in that gen. I just wasn't a PC fat. Zelda OOT and MM are my 2 favourite games followed closely by Metal Gear Solid 1 and Resident Evil 2.
Anonymous No.725146824 [Report] >>725146947 >>725147537
>/v/ OoTsnoys be like
Anonymous No.725146868 [Report] >>725146947 >>725146960 >>725151326 >>725154661 >>725186990 >>725187115
I love OoT, and I’d rather play it than 99.9% of modern titles. If you’re a kiddo, you probably don’t get it, and that’s not your fault


Usually when zoomers ask about why most 80’s/90’s kids agree that OoT is a masterpiece, I try to compare it to a game that’s come out in their generation that is considered by them to be a masterpiece. It’s been a few decades, and the industry has copied/pasted its innovations millions of times to the point where, yeah, if you played it today having never played it before, it probably wouldn’t feel special.
Tears of the kingdom is the Gen Z zelda, I guess? I agree it’s a good game, but I guarantee you Gen A or B are going to be edgy little shits towards it in a decade, AFTER the industry has copied and spammed all the innovations that it made.
Anonymous No.725146889 [Report]
>>725146604
Well, yes, Final Fantasy is a boardgame, even if you don't remove levels and numbers. That's what an RPG is. Its a virtualized tabletop rpg, with rounds, turns and numbers. Something that Zelda will never be.
Anonymous No.725146947 [Report]
>>725146824
>>725146868
Based Simpson poster
Anonymous No.725146956 [Report] >>725147053 >>725150209
>>725144884 (OP)
It's one of the most iconic Souls-likes.
Anonymous No.725146960 [Report] >>725147057
>>725146868
>picrel
Is Homer talking to Link, or is Homer himself Link?
Anonymous No.725147053 [Report] >>725147172 >>725171776
>>725146956
I mean it is LITERALLY the first Souls-Like of them all
Anonymous No.725147057 [Report] >>725147195
>>725146960
Nah man, Navi is talking to him. She’s kinda hard to see but she’s on the right side of the text box
Anonymous No.725147121 [Report] >>725178072
playing it again for the first time since 2003. I'm 35 now, and somehow it's even better than I remember. Still the GOAT.
Anonymous No.725147172 [Report]
>>725147053
>Dodge flip
>magic trivializes game

Checks out
Anonymous No.725147195 [Report] >>725147476
>>725147057
Ahh then let me revise my question, is Navi talking to Homer, the new Hero of Time?
Anonymous No.725147476 [Report]
>>725147195
Homer is pretty indestructible, so he could do it, but he’d have to find a different way of squeezing through the tiny holes
Anonymous No.725147537 [Report] >>725179603
>>725146824
Hi. I've seen you use that oot snoy term in threads before but never asked whats the deal with that? OOT is a Nintendo game not a sony game. Can you explain please? Is it because OOT is more more cinematic or something so more sony like compared to Nintendos other games?
Anonymous No.725147642 [Report] >>725147879 >>725148034 >>725148053 >>725185281
What is the Zoomer OOT? I dont mean Zelda in particular. I mean like whats their "best game ever" game? Is it Minecraft or Fortnight?
Anonymous No.725147879 [Report] >>725147997 >>725148046
>>725147642
My guess is BoTW or Undertale.

I like those games too, but yeah they don’t have a lot of options unfortunately. Gaming industry was shot before they were born so it’s not their fault
Anonymous No.725147997 [Report]
>>725147879
I dont really think its botw or any Zelda game. It would probably be more more of an online focused game they would rate best game ever.
Anonymous No.725148034 [Report]
>>725144884 (OP)
Zelda is a dungeon crawler
>>725147642
botw
Anonymous No.725148046 [Report]
>>725147879
poor lads
I wonder if there's any zoomie playing actual good games, like Unreal or Thief: The Dark Project
Anonymous No.725148053 [Report] >>725148165
>>725147642
Elden Ring
Anonymous No.725148165 [Report] >>725148541
>>725148053
maybe this actually. My zoomer younger brothers didnt play botw at all but they all played elden ring
Anonymous No.725148541 [Report] >>725148614 >>725148884
>>725148165
Damn that’s true. Elden ring is the best game to come out in the past decade (other than Bloodborne).

I’d go with this one if I were gen Z.
Anonymous No.725148614 [Report] >>725148804
>>725148541
if they are woke little shits they could like BG3 as well
Anonymous No.725148804 [Report]
>>725148614
Another stellar title. (If you’re into that kinda thing). I prefer Elden Ring but I can respect the effort put into BG3
Anonymous No.725148884 [Report] >>725149005 >>725149295 >>725157727
>>725148541
>Elden ring is the best game to come out in the past decade (other than Bloodborne).
You cannot pretend to have a shitter taste in gaming even if you tried.
ER is already one of THE worst Soulsborne slops out there, but also the worst open-world trash ever created. A living proof that Souls games need to be in a tightly designed, interconnected maps.

>not even mentioning Sekiro
Of course it's one of these plebs.
Anonymous No.725149005 [Report]
>>725148884
sekiro is a great boss rush simulator but it's a very superficial stealth-action game
Anonymous No.725149119 [Report] >>725175769
>>725146021
How did classic tabletop roleplaying games work?
Anonymous No.725149295 [Report]
>>725148884
I also liked Sekiro. No need to be so either or about video games
Anonymous No.725149876 [Report] >>725153040 >>725165059
>>725144958
Wait what's the difference between them?
Anonymous No.725150209 [Report]
>>725146956
Funny you mention that because I'm on a kick of playing old games and just started OoT. My first thought was
>holy shit this is just a souls game from the paleolithic era
it's a zoomer-tier thought but still, it really feels like it. even some of the animations and sounds feel similar, like when link kicks the smaller chests to open them.
Anonymous No.725151326 [Report] >>725151532 >>725152974
>>725146868
>AFTER the industry has copied and spammed all the innovations that it made
People said this was going to happen after BotW came out and guess what, a few games got gliders, there was that one half-assed Ubisoft clone that I don't even remember the name of, and other than that you'd struggle to point out any direct impact on new games or "lessons learned" by developers.
The modern industry is just way too entrenched in doing what it knows for any one game to cause some paradigm shift. At best they'll copy some superficial side mechanic. It took Dark Souls years of massive popularity just for AAA games to start adding rolling with i-frames to every game, and that was the lesson learned from Dark Souls.
Anonymous No.725151480 [Report] >>725153040
>>725144939
>>725144958
This is the "Die Hard is a Christmas movie" debate of video games.
Anonymous No.725151532 [Report]
>>725151326
People claim that HL2 got copied to hell, and yet I still never see games using unadulterated physics for puzzles or gameplay like it did. The closest you'll get is FUS throwing ragdolls around or launching objects at people.
Anonymous No.725151605 [Report]
>>725144884 (OP)
>role playing game

OP is just baiting everyone to get sent to page 1
Anonymous No.725151994 [Report] >>725153501
>>725144884 (OP)
>Zelda
>role playing
What are you a woman? My sister also stubbornly refuses to accept Zelda isn't an RPG.
Anonymous No.725152286 [Report]
Katawa Shoujo is an RPG.
Anonymous No.725152432 [Report]
>>725146021
If I kill 10,000 goblins in an RPG, I'll level up.
If I kill 10,000 moblins in any Zelda game except 2, will I level up?
Anonymous No.725152837 [Report] >>725160904 >>725162762
>>725144884 (OP)
majora's mask is better
Anonymous No.725152974 [Report] >>725153629
>>725151326
did you miss the anime gacha game with botw mechanics that made so much money that the chinese government started buying up western studios en masse?
Anonymous No.725153040 [Report] >>725153110
>>725149876
>>725151480
You dont level up in any zelda game except Zelda 2 adventure of link.
No, the hearts or collecting items doesnt count.
Anonymous No.725153110 [Report] >>725165674
>>725153040
>the hearts or collecting items doesnt count
The whole "Zelda is an RPG" argument hinges on that though.
Anonymous No.725153501 [Report]
>>725151994
how old is your sister? is she hot?
Anonymous No.725153629 [Report]
>>725152974
I actually did forget about that, but I was thinking more western/Japanese AAA, which I think is what the post I was replying to was implying with "the industry." China mostly just does whatever they want.
Anonymous No.725154661 [Report]
>>725146868
>innovations that [BoTW] made.
Like what?
Anonymous No.725155145 [Report] >>725155869 >>725165638
>>725144884 (OP)
oot has more enemy types AND more dungeons than botw.
fucking zoomers need huge empty open worlds to create their own fun in because they never got over minecraft.
Anonymous No.725155224 [Report] >>725155851 >>725162507 >>725169285 >>725181819 >>725186397
why are there more oot threads than botw threads

botw was supposed to be the new thing
Anonymous No.725155851 [Report]
>>725155224
Because it's considered the best entry in the entire series?
Anonymous No.725155869 [Report]
>>725155145
Minecraft was fun before zoomers ruined it
Anonymous No.725157727 [Report]
>>725148884

You're a braindead mongoloid never share your opinion online ever again
Anonymous No.725157925 [Report]
>>725144884 (OP)
why does Link look so masculine back then?
why isn't he wearing a chastity cage and a dress and wig and sucking my cock?
Anonymous No.725158072 [Report] >>725178978
>>725144884 (OP)
OoT is considered such a great game because it has a lot of pleasurable and enjoyable moments that are very hard to forget.
Anonymous No.725158391 [Report]
>OoT is a souls-like
that's what clicked for me when i got into dark souls.
the stats in a fromsoft game are a little more complicated, but can still be thought of in terms of "it takes me 2 hits to kill this enemy, instead of 3"
Anonymous No.725160110 [Report]
Bump
Anonymous No.725160904 [Report]
>>725144884 (OP)
I never thought it was the greatest game of all time but it's damn good

>>725152837
It's really really not
Anonymous No.725162507 [Report]
>>725155224
It's almost three years old m8
Anonymous No.725162642 [Report] >>725162762 >>725163964 >>725174536 >>725183271 >>725186158
>>725145529
MM is better there i said it
Anonymous No.725162736 [Report] >>725166704
Why do you ask like its not an easily accessible experience you can form your opinion on?
Anonymous No.725162762 [Report]
>>725152837
>>725162642
I'll never understand you weirdos.
Anonymous No.725163964 [Report]
>>725162642
It's almost completely different from OoT though in every way,it feels like some crazy expansion on mushrooms
Anonymous No.725164214 [Report]
this is a bait thread
don't fall for op's tricks
Anonymous No.725164329 [Report]
>>725144884 (OP)
Majora's Mask is better
Anonymous No.725165059 [Report]
>>725149876
The defining feature of an rpg is dice rolls, that is rng chance of success at tasks like hitting an enemy or picking a lock or whatever and then having stats that modify that success chance
It's really as simple as that
Anonymous No.725165638 [Report]
>>725155145
But Minecraft sucks
Anonymous No.725165674 [Report]
>>725153110
Then it's a shit argument and Tendies should play more RPGs besides Pokemon and Paper Mario
Anonymous No.725165703 [Report]
>Ocarina
>RPG
no lol

it's a good game, but it isn't an RPG
Anonymous No.725166704 [Report]
>>725162736
maybe they have an potatoe PC?
Anonymous No.725169285 [Report] >>725183320
>>725155224
because zealots cant grow up and let go. they lack the brain power to recognize the quality or basic facts
Anonymous No.725170359 [Report] >>725171510 >>725172972
Ocarina of Time is a great game, but damn it aged hard with those weird controls and the 20 fps lock. Half Life released at about the same time and it feels almost modern in comparison.
Anonymous No.725171510 [Report] >>725177037
>>725170359
>weird controls

Anon get off the net, your drunk it's literally the prototype of every "modern" action game!
Anonymous No.725171776 [Report]
>>725147053
no, that would be Zelda 2
>challenging gameplay
>dodging/attacking
>losing your exp point if you die too many times
Anonymous No.725172556 [Report]
>>725145714
Miyamoto introduced a species that didn't belong and, in doing so, ruined an ecosystem.
Anonymous No.725172887 [Report]
Ok but what's the worst zelda game?
Anonymous No.725172972 [Report]
Started a multiworld randomizer with a friend and played like 20 hours non stop. Its really fun.

>>725170359
the only controls that I have an issue with is aiming with the weapons that put you in first person but that might just be an issue with my emulator/control settings
Anonymous No.725173148 [Report] >>725173421
I think I'm posting it.
https://files.catbox.moe/s2fks4.zip (OOT)
https://files.catbox.moe/jvehn9.zip (MM 2ship)
https://files.catbox.moe/0bl8bv.zip (MM Recomp)
Anonymous No.725173421 [Report]
>>725173148
Hah thanks anon took me around a solid week to get both working on my modded switch for some reason MM wouldn't load for anything,did the original version always have that "spark" effect when hitting things with the sword? The effects reminds me of the early PsP days
Anonymous No.725174334 [Report]
Midnight bump
Anonymous No.725174492 [Report]
>>725145704
speaking of ALTTP this wasn't really link was it?

always felt weird with the pink hair
Anonymous No.725174536 [Report]
>>725162642
ive never seen this opinion before, crazy take!!

the truth is, both are amazing for different reasons
Anonymous No.725174712 [Report] >>725175291 >>725179607
I thought he was going to be the sage of shadow
Anonymous No.725175291 [Report]
>>725174712
I always tried attacking him when I was a kid
Anonymous No.725175769 [Report]
>>725149119
baldur's gate (the original PC version) basically any d&d session with close friends and beer/hot cocoa on the side
Anonymous No.725175826 [Report] >>725175925
>>725144884 (OP)
>role playing game
Anonymous No.725175925 [Report] >>725176217
>>725175826
yes, a role playing game. you play the role of link. and there's action in this role playing game. an arpg if you will.
Anonymous No.725176217 [Report] >>725176352
>>725175925
Anonymous No.725176352 [Report]
>>725176217
tee hee
Anonymous No.725177037 [Report]
>>725171510
>prototype
yes, its primitive shit that has long since been improved upon in every metric.
Anonymous No.725178072 [Report]
>>725147121
>kaiji fig
based
Anonymous No.725178253 [Report] >>725178549 >>725178792
People want to undersell the game and joke about it. It’s perfection.

That was 1998. How the fuck were they doing that shit in 3D? That’s like the first major adventure 3D game and they nailed it.
Anonymous No.725178525 [Report] >>725178603
You have to understand it in the context of when it came out. Back then, there were no guides, no nothing. It wasn’t a 40 hour game done in 2 weeks like today, it was a fucking crusade when 3 years later you reached the Fire Temple.

Now some idiot gonna reply and be like “I beat in two days when I was-“
Shit the fuck up lil bro
Anonymous No.725178549 [Report] >>725178792
>>725178253
This. What Nintendo did in 1998 was on every bit of the same level of Disney in its heyday with Cinderella, or whatever you would say is their ultimate animated classic. Perhaps Fantasia, which would be my pick.

And because I play video games for the ultimate escapism, I depend on them to be heavily stylized and wholly unreal, but can include some realism to mix it up.
Anonymous No.725178603 [Report]
>>725178525
>Back then, there were no guides
There were several guides, anon, some out before the game was even sold.
Anonymous No.725178792 [Report] >>725179003 >>725179489 >>725179887 >>725179964
>>725178253
>>725178549
There are concepts in the game, that didn’t even fucking exist at that point.

3D camera combat lock on?
Character movement friction on ice?
Day night cycles AND integrated into gameplay?
3D Horse riding?
Torches that interact with webs?
Mesh deformation?

The shit they were doing was unreal. That game propelled 3D video games forward 25 years with all the shit it did.
Anonymous No.725178978 [Report]
>>725158072
God I wish she were pregnant in this picture.
Anonymous No.725179003 [Report] >>725179762 >>725179964
>>725178792
I gotta elaborate on this.

In the Deku Tree temple, there’s that web at the bottom of the first floor.
That web takes into account link’s max falling velocity and height, to deform the mesh and break the web if all those apply.

I can’t even figure that shit out now if I think hard on it and try to replicate it, and they did that sort of thing with no precedent, or if there was, I’d be more than happy to read up on it.
Anonymous No.725179489 [Report]
>>725178792
It also produced the best fishing simulator to date.
Anonymous No.725179557 [Report]
The 3DS version is better
Majora's Mask on 3DS sucks ass however
Anonymous No.725179603 [Report]
>>725147537
It's the resident OOT hater autist.
Anonymous No.725179607 [Report]
>>725174712
>Dampe
in Sweden we use this as a nickname for special needs kids with anger issues
Anonymous No.725179762 [Report] >>725180061
>>725179003
What gets me is how alive the game feels. I mean from the start in Link's house, to his village, it all feels alive. The game has a sort of conscience, I swear. You can laugh, but when you consider the symbolism present in the gold cart and in all other versions, and its maker's background....
Anonymous No.725179807 [Report]
>you turn into an adult
>before you do everything you have to go to the graveyard and pull a random tombstone
how were you supposed to know?
Anonymous No.725179887 [Report]
>>725178792
There are people on here who weren't even born when OOT came out. BotW is the worst game in the series btw. Age of Imprisonment is actually fun as fuck though, which surprised me after the shitshow that was Calamity.
Anonymous No.725179964 [Report] >>725180398
>>725178792
>>725179003
its really not as technologically incredible as you're making it out to be. as a consumer, some aspects were certainly new and novel, and it was very easy to be blown away by "spectacle" at that point in time. realistically, it aged like milk though.
>camera lock on
its a pretty intuitive solution when you think about it, and it wasnt the first game to have a lock on. also other games that were being developed at the same time had similar functions, so its doubtful that they pumped it out in reaction to oot, and more likely that they came to the same mechanical conclusion.
>ice
sliding on ice had been around for like 10 years dude. and in 3d, it was already in mario64.
>day/night
is really simple to make happen.
>3d horse riding
is again really simple to make happen. you just change the model and mode of movement.
>torches and webs
another one of those "spectacle" things where being able to interact with the environment was new, but its a really simple trigger to make happen. also beyond oasis had fire affecting objects and enemies long before oot, including one enemy being on fire and spreading it to others.
>mesh deformation
was already a thing with mario 64's title screen. not sure if any other games had actually utilized it yet. as for the web in question, you are WILDLY over estimating what the trigger actually is in order to get it to break.

while it was new and novel at the time, the actual execution is pretty simple and wouldnt take much brainstorming to conceptualize. it was cool at the time, but the novelty doesnt hold up. it aged pretty poorly. grow up.
Anonymous No.725180061 [Report] >>725180256
>>725179762
schizo autist waxing poetic about an extremely empty and ugly children's game.
we get it, it was there for you more than your parents were, but its just a game dude. it doesnt love you back, and its not going to fuck you.
Anonymous No.725180256 [Report] >>725180695
>>725180061
-t. projecting retard who can't enjoy anything
Anonymous No.725180398 [Report] >>725180772
>>725179964
You think you smart but that’s only the start of that shit. The shit I described was Level 1.

Wait until you see the mirror shield reflecting and destroying stone.
Or the Ice arrows functioning, or the Lizard dudes crossing navmesh fracture points, or the twisting hallway in the forest temple.

It goes even deeper.
Anonymous No.725180532 [Report] >>725180619
>>725145704
>Ocarina of Time is more of a 3D A Link to the Past
In actuality, OoT inherits far more from Zelda 2. Even moreso when you consider the project began as a Zelda 2 remake/sequel on the SNES.
Anonymous No.725180619 [Report] >>725181606
>>725180532
>project began as a Zelda 2 remake/sequel on the SNES

GROK
Anonymous No.725180695 [Report] >>725180772 >>725180785 >>725181204
>>725180256
i enjoy plenty of things just fine. i probably enjoy more things than you zealots, because im not jaded and stuck in the past, constantly comparing everything to an impossible, fictional, contrived standard.
>reflecting
vectors are pretty basic
>destroying
simple trigger
>ice arrows
again, really simple
>lizards... jumping?
... thats it? jumping? scripted jumps? navigation that includes the jumping function?
>twisting hallway
lmao that impresses you from a technological execution standpoint? seriously?

you're fucking retarded, dude.
Anonymous No.725180772 [Report]
>>725180398
>>725180695
Anonymous No.725180785 [Report] >>725181176
>>725180695
Next you’ll talk shit about Mario 64 or something.
>Yeah bro all the 3D was fucking easy lmao I’m not checked in the cuck chair
Or whatever retard posters on /v/ say these days.
Anonymous No.725181176 [Report] >>725181347
>>725180785
if you want me to, sure. mario64 holds up better than most things on the n64, but thats due to its simplicity in design and objective. its just movement in/against a 3d environment. future games have refined controls and camera and stuff, and mario is a little slippery, but it still does what it set out to do pretty well. that said thats pretty much all it is. enemies are largely ignorable and irrelevant, and environments are pretty empty. the most interesting levels are the ones that are narrow and utilize multiple obstacles in order to create a constant shift in direction. the open levels consist of long jumping to get it over it. i've probably sank hundreds of hours into it over the years, but its really bare-bones when you think about it. basically nothing more than a tech-demo.

but yeah, you should really take your meds.
Anonymous No.725181204 [Report] >>725182786
>>725180695
The difference is that you’re jadedly comparing the game to concepts that are well established now, whereas other posters are ack-nowledging what they built it all from at the time.

The difference is in appreciation. If I sit back and critique Ocarina compared to current titles, I’d give it an 8/10. Combat is thin, unskipable cutscenes, whatever.
But it’s the reflection of when it was made. That’s the point.
Anonymous No.725181347 [Report]
>>725181176
>meds

discord transvestsite poster. Sign off your post earlier to save everyone reading them.
Anonymous No.725181606 [Report]
>>725180619
I mean it. Ever since the gigaleak, this has been common knowledge. OoT began as a Zelda 2 remake/sequel on the SNES. The project later shifted to the N64, first called Zelda 64, before becoming the Ocarina of Time
Ever notice how early builds of OoT show Link looking much closer to his LoZ and Zelda II designs? Same applies to that spaceworld video from the 90s.
Where do you think they took the idea of most swordsmanship from the game? The whole game of waiting an enemy's opening so you have a chance to strike while hiding behind your shield, comes from Zelda 2, as much as the crouch stab does.
And let's not start on enemies, such as Volvagia, Dark Link, Iron Knuckles (which originally also looked very similar to their Zelda 2 counterparts), etc.
Anonymous No.725181819 [Report]
>>725155224
4chan is fucking dead and the only way to get engagement is to shit on a game that guarantees arguments and discourse. People on either argue because they want to correct each other or because it makes someone mad.
Anonymous No.725182786 [Report]
>>725181204
>jadedly comparing
lmao no. do you even know what jaded means?
>what they built it from at the time
you mean lines of code where you can make literally anything happen? you clowns overblow the smallest and simplest shit, often completely oblivious to the fact that it was already done before. i can regard it for its place in time the same way i can regard pong, donkey kong, and centipede. its very primitive for the medium. "it propelled 3d video games forward 25 years with all the shit it did" is an incredibly ignorant and brainless statement. hardware was the biggest gatekeeper for progress. once the hardware came out, innovation after innovation was made. the historical revisionism that "oot was THE pioneer" is hilariously wrong, first and foremost because they didnt share code or HOW they did it. even if somebody else saw some aspect and wanted to copy it, they still had to MAKE it from the ground up.

you're stuck in the past with blinders on. to you there is only oot. thats all there ever was, all there ever will be. everything else is immaterial to you. what a sad, sad existence. i'll be enjoying the plethora of other wonderful things, and actually appreciating them for what they are, instead of hopeless and hollow comparisons to a shallow relic placed on a pedestal built of lies and ignorance.
Anonymous No.725183228 [Report]
>>725144884 (OP)
>Was it really that good
just play it, it is that good
Anonymous No.725183271 [Report] >>725185371
>>725162642
MM is great but it'll always be the little brother, MM wouldn't have existed without OoT, that's what makes OoT so special, there was nothing, and then the best game ever got created out of thin air
Anonymous No.725183320 [Report] >>725183742
>>725169285
be the change you want to see, talk about the newest zelda games, make some threads
Anonymous No.725183514 [Report]
I really wonder how different OOT would have been if the 64DD didn't flop
Anonymous No.725183742 [Report] >>725183832 >>725184734
>>725183320
i dont need to. i dont limit myself to just zelda either. but the zealots for oot just cant let go, thats the answer to the question.
Anonymous No.725183832 [Report] >>725184865
>>725183742
>the zealots for oot just cant let go
maybe because they genuinely think OoT is peak zelda (personally my zelda goat is wind waker)
Anonymous No.725184734 [Report] >>725185027
>>725183742
>People like different things than I do?
>Unacceptable!
Anonymous No.725184865 [Report] >>725185374 >>725185823
>>725183832
yes, i understand that they truly, genuinely believe their own nonsense. no amount of facts sways them. you can point out that (almost) every single zelda game is different from the others, usually focusing on one core gimmick or another, but they have arbitrarily chosen oot as "this is what defines zelda as a franchise" when its the 5th game in the franchise, and they still made 2d games since then as well. you can point out how primitive it is for the medium, but they dont care. you can explain how every single aspect of it has been surpassed and improved upon by other games, but they dont care. they often return with "but oot is the complete package" with zero reason for why it gets to be such a standard, other than "because its oot". i guess other genres and mediums for games dont matter, lol. its nothing but staunch, willfully ignorant zealotry, through and through.
Anonymous No.725184915 [Report]
>>725144884 (OP)
>role playing game
Anonymous No.725185027 [Report]
>>725184734
where did i say that its unacceptable to like things? all i did was answer the question. in other posts i explain reasons for why its stupid to hold in such high regard and give it such acclaim, but nowhere did i say that you cant enjoy it or have fun with it. even if its your favorite (pretty sad though), its laughably out of touch to claim that its the pinnacle of anything, and thats just a semantic fact.
Anonymous No.725185143 [Report]
>>725146805
I didn't ask
Anonymous No.725185281 [Report]
>>725147642
Elden Slop
Anonymous No.725185371 [Report] >>725185960
>>725183271
You Nintendo cultists are fucking weird
Anonymous No.725185374 [Report]
>>725184865
>with zero reason for why it gets to be such a standard, other than "because its oot".
Brawndo's got what plants crave.
Anonymous No.725185693 [Report] >>725185860 >>725186007 >>725186034 >>725186106
>all these retarded gaslighters trying to sell OoT as this Herculean videogame that came out of nowhere and changed the world forever
>when pic related existed TWO years before OoT and did 70% of the shit the latter did
Nintendo kiddies, I swear...
Anonymous No.725185823 [Report] >>725185973
>>725184865
>they often return with "but oot is the complete package" with zero reason for why it gets to be such a standard, other than "because its oot"
that's bullshit, there's a lot of reasons why oot is such a great game, are you seriously pretending you don't see anything good in that game?
Anonymous No.725185860 [Report]
>>725185693
TR is literally just Prince of Persia from 1989 but 3D
Anonymous No.725185960 [Report]
>>725185371
>nooo you shouldn't be allowed to have a favorite game and say it here!!
says who???
Anonymous No.725185973 [Report] >>725186291
>>725185823
i see it as extremely primitive for the medium, and not even challenging. i get that it was literally made for children, but lufia 2 has better dungeons. oot aged like milk.
Anonymous No.725186007 [Report] >>725186154
>>725185693
tomb raider, really? that girl is moving like a fucking truck, and I played it back in the days in 1996, I was like "dude, mario 64 exists with all those great movements and they made this shit??"
Anonymous No.725186034 [Report]
>>725185693
kek this. PS1 kids had TR, PC kids had TR, Saturn kids had TR. Only Nintendo zealots that didn't know any better are obsessed with the idea OoT created *the* industry 3D framework (it didn't).
Anonymous No.725186106 [Report]
>>725185693
Far better dungeons than Ocarina, too
Anonymous No.725186154 [Report] >>725186345
>>725186007
oh im sorry, i thought we were praising/appreciating things based on WHEN it came out.
Anonymous No.725186158 [Report]
>>725162642
I think MM is better too, but you cannot praise MM without giving a lot of credit to OoT too.
It's perfectly reasonable to choose either as your favourite.
For me the time loop in MM just elevates the whole experience. It makes the world feel so much more alive. Really impressive for a 64 game.
Anonymous No.725186175 [Report]
>>725144958
It's a Zelda-like or ALttPformer as confirmed by Meltzer
Anonymous No.725186291 [Report] >>725187685
>>725185973
>i get that it was literally made for children
Bruh, this game is all despair, even the end is a bad ending. Link saves the world, but then is sent back in time and is erased from the future he helped create. No one know him anymore and no one will remembe his sacrifice.

The fuck you mean "children", it was unsettling from the begining to the end
Anonymous No.725186345 [Report]
>>725186154
that's what I said, I played it in 1996 and I thought the movements were terrible, crash bandicoot and mario 64 were made this year, there's no excuses
Anonymous No.725186397 [Report] >>725187131
>>725155224
TotK completely killed the discussion of nuZelda on the board. The only BotW/TotK threads I've seen recently are just two schizos spam posting at each other.
Anonymous No.725186746 [Report] >>725186978
>>725145260
What's bro cooking
Anonymous No.725186921 [Report] >>725187391
>>725145260
Seems the only people who don't like this game actually have room temperature IQ
Anonymous No.725186978 [Report]
>>725186746
>seriously games released in 2008 have better graphics
it has to be bait lmaoooo
Anonymous No.725186990 [Report] >>725187038
>>725146868
TotK is ass. BoTW was their ocarina of time and was copied to death in similar fashion.
Anonymous No.725187038 [Report] >>725187448
>>725186990
at least majora's mask had the decency to go for a new map
Anonymous No.725187115 [Report]
>>725146868
>I love OoT, and I’d rather play it than 99.9% of modern titles. If you’re a kiddo, you probably don’t get it, and that’s not your fault
I remember an image showing that the zoomers are the only generation that are nostalgic of an era they didn't witness that was the 90's, don't worry senpai, zoomers know the true golden age of video games, don't give up on them just yet
Anonymous No.725187131 [Report]
>>725186397
This ToTK is such a bad game both gameplay and lore wise ontop of taking forever to come out. People would not shut up about BoTW here for years both pre and post release. ToTK was so ass it killed a decade of Zelda enthusiasm the only people who defend it are the type of people who defend modern Pokemon and insist the wii u was actually good because it had 2 games
Anonymous No.725187231 [Report]
I guess 3D is too hard to do.
We got what... Ocenahorn 2 this decade?
Anonymous No.725187391 [Report]
>>725186921
This is satire though surely.
He complains near the bottom that OoT doesnt have microtransactions
Anonymous No.725187448 [Report] >>725188154
>>725187038
Majora is a remarkable game for the time it was made. I truly believe some games are divinely inspired you can feel it in some of the Zelda games not all of them though. ToTK feels like it was made by the devil it is a cheap imitation of a master piece recycling content and even having the weird goat worship with a major theme of the game being falling into dark pits. I think this is part of why ToTK was delayed so much they knew it didn't have the spark and tried to force it anyway. Same goes for Pokemon and the giga leaks kind of confirmed the level of occultism that was going on at Nintendo back in the day. I guess that's why media as a whole both games and cartoons are so mediocre now what they were used to retell and prophecize has been done
Anonymous No.725187685 [Report] >>725187865 >>725188170
>>725186291
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Anonymous No.725187865 [Report] >>725188170
>>725187685
OoT's story is one of the darkest one of the zelda's frenchise, if everytihng OoT is far from your usual game for children, BoTw is a children's game, the story is insipid and happy lucky lol
Anonymous No.725188154 [Report] >>725188574 >>725188859
>>725187448
>ToTK feels like it was made by the devil it is a cheap imitation
I don't get why, sure it feels like a DLC of BotW but that's it, why would it be inferior to you? but for the rest you're right, waiting 6 years for a dlc was comical
Anonymous No.725188170 [Report]
>>725187865
>>725187685
Anonymous No.725188574 [Report]
>>725188154
NTA, but ToK really feels like a cheap rehash, where as everything in MM was fresh and brand new. The crafting mechanic demolishes any resemblance of survival and exploration.
Anonymous No.725188859 [Report]
>>725188154
They took out the best gadgets in totk fot stupid fisher price buildablocks
An entire stupid system that you have 0 inventive to interact with
Anonymous No.725188976 [Report] >>725189095
Yes, it's the best game ever made. Please make this thread again tomorrow.
Anonymous No.725189095 [Report]
>>725188976
>Please make this thread again tomorrow.
this, I can debate about OoT for the rest of my life, no problem