Thread 725185203

you already have enough RAM for years, right?

>>725185203 (OP)
>got 2 x 16 for 140 euro in june
>now it's 500 euro
lmao wtf happened

>>725185203 (OP)
2X16gb is enough

>>725185203 (OP)
I have 32gb DDR5 6400mhz. By the time I need to upgrade we may get even DDR7 RAMs.

>>725185415
heres 32gb

>>725185203 (OP)
Probably not but my 64GB will be good enough for the next 2 years.

>>725185203 (OP)
Eh, I only need my trusty 8.
Maybe in a couple years I get another 8

>>725185360
AI

i hope so

I have 64 GB DDR4.

>>725185568
Jesus, I literally just managed to get two sticks for $140 like three weeks ago and I thought, "wow that's pretty expensive for RAM huh"

>>725185203 (OP)
What happened? Some new shitcoin that mines with your RAM got popular?

>>725187436
AI

>>725186236
2x16 is unusable for AI.

>>725185203 (OP)
I regret spending more on a motherboard with 4 ram slot thinking I'd upgrade eventually. At least I got 32 instead of just 16 like I was thinking.

>>725187568
AI companies bought all the good stock, then everyone else that needs RAM bought what was left

>>725186924
me too!

>>725185203 (OP)
I have 64gbs of ram

I gots me 100gb of ram

I'm safe

I don't have enough for local AI. It's over.

>>725189474
>128gb
>3600mhz
>across 4 dimms
I wager you are using an intel cpu.

>>725189938
NTA but i have the same configuration and I'm on AM4 with a 5800X3D. It's not that hard to run four sticks at that speed but admittedly doing anything with it beyond XMP is completely unstable

>>725189938
>I wager you are using an intel cpu.
No, it's AMD

>>725185203 (OP)
I've got 64gb but I'm getting into gamedev and think it would be smart to go up to 128, but I don't want to spend $700 in RAM.

Shits fucking retarded man, literally everything is getting worse for the little guy.

I got 32GB of high quality DDR4 ram (overclocked to 4200Mhz with very tight timings). Paired with 5900X and 7900 XTX.

System is very snappy and runs games and apps perfectly but yeah I think I'm fucked when it comes to AI.

>everything skyrocketing in prices
>wages lower than ever and jobs harder to get than ever
something's gotta give

>>725192293
Jews are currently testing just how far they can push the goyim before they get violent. I expect a lot more Charlie Kirks and George Floyds or similar to distract people from the insane inflation we're experiencing in the west.

>>725192887
things read more like influence slipping than power testing

>>725193102
New York elected a "Muslim" who wears a Kippah and Kanye West hugged a Rabbi and begged for his forgiveness.

oh no, someone think of the poor developers who will have to optimize the games to run on 16GB of RAM!

>>725192293
They will just continue to make fake and gay deals like everything going on with Nvidia and AI companies right now, but that bubble will burst eventually too leaving them with product that consumers cannot even afford to buy because they cannot even afford to live.

>>725193218
new york citizens elected a dude attacking the state's landlord empire and israel who both dominant parties have been screeching and shitting their pants about and smearing with media campaigns and he still won and they are going maximum apeshit about it. the example you just gave also reads as influence slipping.

>>725187568
They aren't buying those, correct, they're placing much larger and much more expensive orders, in high volumes. Which causes production lines to be shifted to compensate. Supply dries up for DIY/"gamer" products, demand remains the same. Guess what happens next?

Fact is the revenue AND margins on what data-centers provide eclipses everything else by several orders of magnitude at this point.

24gb of vram reporting in

no I only have 16
it's over for me

>>725185203 (OP)
I built a pc earlier this year as soon as gpu prices stabilized because I guessed this could potentially happen, pretty happy I got 64gb

>>725193542
Whatever happened to those mining cards that were supposed to fix the prices of GPUs (never mind that NVIDIA was caught selling directly TO miners and everyone just conveniently forgot about it)?

>>725193523
The younger generations outright despise Israel, and even them buying Tiktok US and trying to astroturf everything to make Israel look good isn't working and the younger generations just despise them more.
That is why we are probably going to see more and more censorship in the next decade.

>upgraded to 5700X3D
>installed additional 16GB of RAM
>2TB PCIe4 SSD
>9070XT
>all this year

I'm good for this gen

I bought a 3TB SSD and 32GB of ram last Christmas
Both are skyrocketing because of the AI bubble
Holy shit man.
Are GPUs still expensive as fuck? I need to upgrade in a year.

>>725193742
>5700X3D
>I'm good for this gen
No, you're good for 2 gens ago tho

>>725193874
GPUs are currently, surprisingly, priced around their MSRP, or they're even cheaper. But I'm sure they'll find a way to fuck with those, too.

Just pop already. Nobody actually needs all this AI bullshit.

>got 5080 when the 50 series prices went down and 64gb ddr5 ram when ram prices were fine
i won hard

>>725193945
5700x3d came out this year fucking retard

>>725193945
75% performance of 7800X3D.
AM5 is hardly worth investing into, coming from AM4

>>725192293
There's room for things to get much much worse before then.

>>725194245
well now you have no choice, 5700x3d had a very limited run and that was the last of am4

>>725194341
Why do you think I bought one?
I'm skipping AM5 entirely and will build a new PC for DDR6

The only new game I'm buying in the future is Routine. I'll be fine.

>>725194245
How rude of them to not include my nice and inexpensive ryzen 5500

>>725194495
>I'm skipping AM5 entirely
you plan to not upgrade for a decade?

AI is not a new thing so what exactly happened recently?

>>725194590
DDR6 is set to arrive in 2027.

>>725194628
Companies are setting up data centers non stop.

>>725194590
You don't? What, can't live without the latest AIshit peddling on an objectively dead industry? You MUST experience the talk to pissant women sims from Microsoft and Sony every year? Frankly, I regret even moving from my 970, all the FOTMs were fucking terrible.

>bought a 32gb kit
>turns out I don't have to throw out the existing 16
>now have 48
Guess I'm good for a while

>>725194245
essence of that pic:
if you have a 60hz monitor like most people, you can game with a 10100f 4-corelet and be satisfied

>>725194946
Nobody will ever need more than 32GB of ram

Realistically next gen consoles should have 32GB of shared RAM at best.

But personally I don't think that more than 24GB is necessary on consoles.

>pcpoors suddenly can't afford memory
holy lolzers

>>725185203 (OP)
i literally could not give less of a shit, fuck off

>>725185203 (OP)
oof, what happened
I'm still on ddr4

>>725185203 (OP)
I got 128gb just in time. Could sell my 64gb for as much as I bought it for.

>>725194628
AI is a hungry hungry hippo. It does not stop.

>>725185203 (OP)
>got 32 GB DDR5-6000 for 80€ last year
>is now 180€
Jesus wtf happened

>>725185203 (OP)
32 gb should last the rest of the decade at least, right?

>>725187568
Nobody uses DRAM for AI. It's all GPUs and VRAM. AI runs slow as fuck on cpus and DRAM.

I have 32gb ddr5 and never considered buying more, now I really won't buy more

>>725192887
>I won't do anything i'll just keep blaming the jews

>>725200490
Tell me what the average Joe can do to influence NVIDIA's course of action.

what the fuck man

wtf happened on october 14?
it was stable for years before that day

>>725200567
who cares?

I have 6gb I bought in 2011. It's fine.

>>725193719
they despise Israel because they were raised on lefty propaganda telling them that Israel is an "apartheid white nationalist neonazi imperialist occupier state stealing land from and genociding poor harmless defenceless Muslims". Anons forget just how hardcore anti-Israel the Left was for decades.

>>725193719
It only really started after all the shit the jews started doing on Gaza. They got too cocky, thought they were invincible and kept ramping it up, now literally everyone hates them. But before that, younger generations didnt mind Israel. Even on instagram there are constant posts shitting on them

Unfortunately, I was waiting for the prices of ddr5 to drop.

>>725199661
Definitely

>>725200792
Orange retard decided to put tariffs on places with minerals for electronics. Now it's affecting the entire market.
>>725201750
Same

>>725185203 (OP)
I bought 2x48gb in January

>>725194628
Probably chip shortages hitting due to all the chips going to GPUs for AI.

>Have 16gb of ram
>Want to upgrade
>Buy two 16gb sticks of ram to go up to 32gb
>Amazon sends me two 8gb sticks
>Don't bother trying to send them back and just re0order two 16gb sticks again
>They arrive normally
>Now have four 8gb ram sticks and two 16gb ram sticks
This is going to have to last me until the bubble pops.

i dont play modern sloppa so yeah

>>725202031
nah, I'm pretty sure it was China broadening their export controls of rare earth

>5900X
>2x16 dual rank DDR4 at 3600 fclk can't go any higher than 1800 without WHEA no matter what I try
>9070 non-XT
Give it to me straight...

>>725185203 (OP)
Even the 2TB Kingston SSD I bought at the start of the year has gone up like 70% in price.

>>725185203 (OP)
can we pop the AI bubble now? everyone knows its a ponzi scheme, do we really need to drag this shit out for another 2 years?

>>725199043
Sloppa.

Local models need ton of resources.

>>725202516
No it's going to be great, the circular selling of GPUs to companies which Nvidia has invested in is absolutely nothing like banks in 1929 lending to their customers to buy their own stocks secured by the value of those stocks, shut up and spend six grand on a PC.

>>725202516
It's actually very easy to pop. Just make AI extremely fucking racist or about killing jews. Investors will drop it instantly because of public image.

>>725202754
AI naturally gravitates to that state, though.
They do everything they can to wrangle AI away from it.

>>725194946
if its on ddr5 you're bottlenecking yourself by using all 4 slots

>>725202754
Grok was literally calling itself Mecha Hitler and nobody cared.

>>725202938
Not him - stuck in single channel mode for the foreseeable future - but what's this about? Are memory controllers crap and shit the bed when multiple dimms are added? I've literally seen that once and on a platform older than most of /v/, the k7.

>>725200825
>you won't do anything, just complain about the Jews
>well, what can you do?
>who cares?
Shut the fuck up Schlomo.

>>725203051
That's because tw*tter is 90% bots just reposting stuff

>>725199739
incorrect.
large models require system ram. The more memory you have the more models you can have in memory at once.

>>725193218
>New York elected a "Muslim" who wears a Kippah
You'd think of all places 4chan Anons would recognize obvious performative BS when they see it.

>>725199739
I thought so too but i'm generating locally with a 5080 WAN videos, and its offloading a ton on my ram. 32gb wasnt enough, i had to get 32gb more, and now on generation pc goes up to 58gb of ram usage on top of 16gb vram usage.

>>725193218
Good. Fuck landlords. Fuck foreign influence in politics. Fuck Andrew Cuomo. He can go choke on a million dicks.
videogames

>>725203069
AMD's controllers since Zen 1 have struggled with four slots single rank/two slots dual rank. It's a tradeoff, though. More ranks have their own benefits.

>>725200925
Correct. Thus they were prepared for >>725201649, at which point they blasted out the anti-semitic propaganda to those too young to know better.

>>725200841
based

>>725199739
VRAM is DRAM retard, the reason DIMM prices are going up is because Nvidia and AYMD are gorging up all the DRAM production for their gay gpus

>tariffs from the pumpkin and shutdown
>in 1 month from shutdown, all is up by 100%
>megacorps and bigwigs circlejerk aisloppa
>cryptoshit
It is going to be a shit decade
man, it's not g

>>725202443
Same. All the shit I bought last year jumped up in price.
Dodged a fucking bullet

>>725185203 (OP)
Fuck pc gaming

>>725202754
China has to pull another deepseek out the hat.
We are fucked
It's Islam vs Christianity on one side and Tiny Hats vs Turbans on the other

>>725204550
>drumf bad
>ai bad
>crypto bad too!!
the best goy

>>725204550
It is going to be bad at the same time it's super important to document all this stuff so we can all laugh about it like 5 years later.

>>725185203 (OP)
Considering I'm not doing anything that's RAM intensive, I'm good with 32GB.

>>725204710
The increase in RAM prices is going to fuck all consumer electronics, especially consoles. its fuck AI.

>>725202754
That gets you elected mayor of New York these days

>>725204936
32 is the new 16, it's not going anywhere fast.

>>725205145
Funny part is I rarely see RAM usage go above 16GB on my system. Only time it goes over is when I'm fucking around in 3dsmax and exporting models using a custom script.

>>725204867
of course the one that signs his posts doesn't know shit

>>725200567
>Tell me
Can't think for yourself, NPC goyim?

>>725205428
because windows is "optimized" to give ~50% of your ram if you're not using it for something intensive to just random shit

>>725185203 (OP)
I've had 64GB of ram since 2022 and never used more than 20GB.

>>725206971
>"optimized"
That preload/cache feature is one of the better ones because it speeds up application startup for things you are likely to use. Unlike with unused drive space, unused RAM is literally wasted performance and there is no reason not to allocate all of it just in case.

>>725207360
Thank you Rajesh, I'm buying another 32GB just to run Windows 11 now.

>>725207589
>i have dunning-kruger's therefore you're brown
okay rajesh go record another tiktok on the train tracks

>>725207694
No Rajesh, you're right, resources unused are resources wasted! I paid for ALL the bytes.

>>725207770
why is your skin color the same as the poop that comes out of my butt? can you explain?

>>725208135
You're dying, Rajesh.

>>725192887
weimar-style hyperinflation, lets fucking go bros!

>>725208171
>seething this much

The one thing that gives me a bit of relief is that if I ever want to upgrade in the future, the only component I would really need to change would be my CPU since I'm currently packing a 7600X, and I really, REALLY hope AI doesn't also start causing CPU prices to increase too. I swear everything PC related, from hardware to software to the internet itself has gone to the absolute gutter during the 2020's so fast that it feels like we're still dealing with COVID prices.

>>725185203 (OP)

For any AM5 owners considering panic filling all their RAM slots: lower the frequencies or else you have constant crashes.

I'm so fucked. I waited a year to build because I didn't want to get an oxidation chip from Intel. I had a bad experience with AMD in the past so I go Intel.

I am so fucked since I need everything and I got a 10 year old PC on its last legs.

>>725185203 (OP)
>back then when crypto shit hit the fan for real, somewhere in early 20's
>my video card died
>the best offer I could find was $1800 for a 3080Ti and it was so "cheap" only because 3080Ti is supposedly bad for mining
>timeskip
>AI shit hit the fan for the N-th time
>suddenly my memory is shitting itself, memtest is fuckfull of errors but it works _for now_ with XMP disabled, and I though I was safe with 64GB
It just keeps happening.

>RAM prices suddenly increase after they were dirt cheap for years
It reminds me of when those performance crippling (((viruses))) like spectre, meltdown and wannacry were released after people refused to buy new CPUs.

>>725211239
but no one wants to buy intel anymore

>>725203303
extreme levels of irony in your post anon

>RAM manufacturers purposely keep supply low to keep prices sky high
>AI causes demand to skyrocket so now there's no more supply and the manufacturers wont make more because they purposely want to keep the price high

>>725213301
Don't forget stopping production of DDR4 to ensure demand shifts to DDR5.