Thread 725200643

Con Man Inafune returns to bash the gaming industry again.
https://automaton-media.com/en/news/mega-man-creator-keiji-inafune-criticizes-game-industrys-growing-reliance-on-ip-fame-and-trendy-genres-we-need-developers-with-a-clear-message/

>AAHHHH DUMB GAIJIN GIVE ME YOUR MONEY
>STOP TALKING ABOUT MEGAMAN
>GAIJIIIIIIN

>>725200643 (OP)
>mega man creator
con man....

Ah this from the man that nearly bankrupted Capcom demanding westernization and outsourcing, and still left a lingering addiction to AAA budgets and movie games

>>725200643 (OP)
He's right. Look at how China and Korea are kicking Japan's ass right now.

>>725200643 (OP)
>>725200760
>>725200885
>>725200901
>>725201001
I see nothing wrong with what he's saying. The game industry is lazy and over-reliant on the same IPs. Look I even attached an image of a serious looking Iwata, a guy you like because he's Nintendo, so you can agree with my post while feeling the comfort of your mascots being my mouthpiece.

>>725200643 (OP)
Why they are obsessing over MM? It's a old busted IP. He was the creator of the best Onimusha. Made Lost Planet, Soul Sacrifice even the Zero series.

>>725201001
There was no lingering addiction, what happened is that Inafune's horseshit of overstepping his boundaries drove off all of Capcom's talent and made them leave because they were tired of his shit. That's why capcom is a shell now.

>>725200643 (OP)
He's right. Everyone is kinda doing the same game with a different popular ip slapped onto it.

>>725200643 (OP)
The first time he was right, but didn't do shit to help the industry, only thing he did was creating a shitty clone of a 80s game, if anything he was at fault of the industry state back in the late 2000s early 2010s thanks to the outsourcing of games to the west.
Now is to early to say if AI is good or bad as not many games have used the technology yet, but gotta say if games nowadays are soulless and made by real people, I don't wanna know how games gonna be with AI.

>>725201142
I know your bullshitting butt if you arent then let it ve know that Inafune is the litmus test on whether anyone's truly been into gaming or not. If you can recognize a cancer i don't know what to tell you.

>>725201142
iwata is dog shit

>>725201001
Hmm yes I should my stick my dick in it.

>>725200643 (OP)
>dude whose only relevance is an IP he contributed to 40 years ago says other devs are too reliant on their IPs

>>725201142
Nigga he just made a shitty megaman clone to get megaman money
Same as Kodaka, Danganronpa is le bad but he literally uses the same artist, bso, vibes and style as danganronpa for his new games
These boomers just thought they would make money just by using their names

>>725200643 (OP)
Why do these jackasses keep calling the conman Megaman's creator?

>>725201406
He was the main producer for Recore which is more unique than most games coming out.

>>725200643 (OP)
He did nothing wrong

>>725201437
>>725201456
>>725201572
He can say the sky is blue and you would be like "nuh uh! You made a kickstarter game that sucked! It's fucking RED"
Eternal NPCs. Imagine Miyamoto laughing at you. He is laughing at you, because you're sad and pathetic.

>said the guy who's grand master plan after getting ousted from Mega Man was to go and make Chinese bootleg Mega Man

Yeah? Can't rely on IP fame? Did you learn that the hard way when Mighty No. 9 flopped hard? The shit worked when Kamiya did it with Bayonetta. The difference was that he was a talented man with a talented team backing him. Working during a good time in the industry. Something that can't be said about Inafune, or the here and now.

>>725200643 (OP)
>Inafune
isn't that guy that made 9 something megamen clone that floped hard as fuck ?

>>725201629
And how that turn out?
It had some cool ideas but because something is unique doesn't make it good.
Gotta respect the nigga simply because he maintained MegaMan alive for quite a long time, but his output after leaving Capcom leaves a lot to be desired.

>>725200643 (OP)
TEST

>>725200643 (OP)
did he have anything to do with mega man x? if so I forgive him for mighty no. 9... if not, I don't give a fuck what he says about anything

>>725200643 (OP)
On the one hand, he's not wrong. On the other, I think he's just mad nobody will hire him to work on those IPs.

He made Mega Man.
Mega Man.

>>725201569
>dude whose only relevance is an IP he contributed to 40 years ago says other devs are too reliant on their IPs
fpbp

>>725202382
>>725202402
I need info. did he make x?

>>725202402
So you'd let him make another game then?

>>725201703
having a melty son?

>>725200643 (OP)
He's objectively correct.

>>725200643 (OP)
Inafune is a bastard and I can't stand him for all his decisions that have harmed the timeline. But I still think he's a good ideas guy. He needs to be reigned in with a whip when something is too stupid like Balan's lack of controls.

>>725202220
Yeah made a Mega Man clone and learned the hard way (AGAIN) why Axl doesn't really work without having a game entirely to himself, used it sheerly as a stepping stone to trying to keep IP control over Zero (RAY is pretty blatantly just Zero) and as a stepping stone to doing Mega Man Legends again with Red Ash

this thread just reminded me fantasy life's next big update is "only" a month away
thank you inafune for almost killing it in the womb, as is it's just unfinished

>>725203463
He was the reason why Level 5 went to shit? No wonder

>>725201001
he was in the right though. CAPCOM needed to adapt if they wanted to survive and they did. Their games are way more western now use western techniques etc. the solution was just to not outsource though that was his mistake he wanted a shortcut.

as for OP article he's right again.

>>725204601
why do you think they called it fantasy life i. they were banking everything on him

>>725206217
>Their games are way more western now
They keep tripping and eating shit because they're chasing the AAA dragon, so much so they're actively stymieing development of lower budget titles like Mega Man that have huge profit margins relative to the development time and budget.

>>725206642
>relative to the development time and budget
so what? they're a huge company and they need to pay wages & impress stockholders why bother with these smaller projects. only infinite money machines like Valve have the luxury to make anything they want.

>>725201001
You just described modern Capcom lmao.

>>725201142
he's a pussy coward. he's never created anything in his life. you can look at his CV and see more megaman clones appear more times than he has years in the industry. he rose up the corporate ladder to ceo of capcom and what did he make? shitty dmc sequel, shitty resident evil sequel, shitty bionic commando sequel, shitty megaman sequels.
he leaves to make his own company: shitty megaman clone, shitty megaman legends clone, NFTs.
he is the last fucking person who can complain about lack of creativity. at the same company, shinji mikami was putting out god hand and hideki kamiya was putting out okami while inafune was dumping out 3 mega man games a year.
he's a con man.

>>725206217
just take a look at DMCV the complete shift to realism a more subdued choreography and western writing made it the best selling in the series. it's actually insane how they pulled it off it rivals RE numbers now from basically a has-been IP that pulls from gay shit that only japanese people like. Inafune had the right idea just poor execution.

>>725207216
Yes or no: The games industry relies on popular IP and trends too much.

>>725201703
Still seething about mighty number 9 I see.

>>725200643 (OP)
isn't this the gut that made Mighty No-9?

>>725207580
See: >>725207532

>>725207659
See:>>725207580

>>725207728
Answer?

>>725200643 (OP)
I agree with the caption in the image and I do wish there wad more effort to make unique games with new characters. However, I’m still not going to buy whatever he might make since I also think we give too much weight for “creators” and directors.

>>725200643 (OP)
I unironically blame this faggot for the state of Capcom today.

He could not stop Glazing the west back then.

>>725206753
Do you not understand what "huge profit margins" means

>>725207334
kill yourself nigger
5 is good but so is basically every other entry in it, and it's not the only good selling one

>>725207973
it's the best selling one by far.
>>725207940
one million is not huge. at all.

>twitter screencap e-celeb thread
Die.

>>725208006
>one million
Do you not understand what "huge profit margins" means

>>725207790
You're living in a fantasy life: infaune edition.

>>725200643 (OP)
he's right though?

>>725208032
it doesn't matter because it's not high enough. DO YOU NOT UNDERSTAND THIS. WHY WOULD I WASTE RESOURCES, PROGRAMMERS THAT COULD BE DOING RE5 REMAKE WHERE IT'LL MAKE 10 MILLION COPIES SOLD. what are you gonna release 5 mega mans in the span of a year.

>>725201001
The damage of this shit killed Lost Planet for good. I fucking hate this con man so fucking much!

>>725200643 (OP)
He's not wrong but that's rich coming from the same guy who crashed and burned after trying to make a Mega Man ripoff.

>>725208142
>what are you gonna release 5 mega mans in the span of a year.
They should.

>>725200643 (OP)
>criticizes growing reliance on IP fame
>Mega Man creator Keiji Inafune

>>725200643 (OP)
Broken clock etc

>>725202467
He was forced to create X (the character) by Fujiwara and some other guys. He wanted Zero to be the protagonist of the "future" series from the get go.

>>725200643 (OP)
That's rich coming from a man who clinged on his Megaman fame to beg fans for donations to make his own Megaman-style that flopped really hard. Meanwhile IntiCreates (who worked at many Megaman games) made their own, fresh Megaman-style games without clinging on their Megaman fame and with them funding them themselves.

>>725200643 (OP)
He's absolutely right in regards to Jap industry. Nothing but 40 year old IPs that zooms don't give a shit about, and the gameplay formula they're reusing is at least a decade old

>>725200643 (OP)
He is mad that he stopped being relevant after leaving Crapcom and he's mad that even his most loyal fans trashed him because the great Megaman style game he promised them ended up being trash. And he's jealous that IntiCreates did better than him.

>>725208142
You're confusing copies sold for actual return-over-interest
Mega Man 11 sold 1.6 million or more at $30 or less, was the highest selling game in the entire franchise, and Capcom declared it an enormous success
Monster Hunter Wilds is selling less than Monster Hunter Rise + Sunbreak, cost an enormously higher amount more in budget, and is probably not currently profitable

>>725201437
>>725201456
>>725201572
>>725207216
All 4 of you are fucking retards. He's talking about the message itself not who the message is coming from you dumb fucking niggers.

>>725208565
He also produced Dead Rising which is more original than anything Capcom sharted out in the past decade

>>725208832
Ultimately it stems back to him wanting Mega Man to be red and not blue, hence Proto Man and Zero as the "cool mentor" figure until Zero got more characterized later as being X's closest confidant and following his lead instead

>All these retards at the comments shilling for a Japanese old man that stopped being relevant
Name me one good game he made with his own company after leaving Crapcom.

>>725208905
>IntiCreates
For a long time I associated them with him because their name was attached to his shit megaman clone so I thought all their games were all shit because of that. I wonder how many others thought the same.

>>725201001
>dude, we're so fucked, Western studios are going to overtake us!
He was right though.
Japanese games went from being top of the world, to waiting in line behind GTA, Call of Duty and Skyrim.
You can't even argue against that. It just makes you mad to hear it.

>>725203381
>(AGAIN)
Inafune didn't have anything to do with Axl outside of offhand tips to the character designers.

>>725200643 (OP)
He's not wrong, everyone is banking too much on millennial nostalgia. Fresh ideas are a detriment to companies, stagnation is encouraged.

>>725209120
>please leave the japanese conman alone!!

>>725209140
Meanwhile every other AAA game he made same period for the American audience were huge budget and flopped hard. Also Dead Rising tool advance of zombie games trend of the era.

>>725209414
Case in point. Still too stupid to actually notice. I've never played a single Megaman game in my life. I do not give a shit about that series or it's creator. You're still a retard.

>>725209431
Yeah that's how you make a popular game, you ride a popular trend but you also INNOVATE like Dead Rising did.

>>725209297
And Japan is still losing to this day, but now to China and Korea

>>725209484
>I SAID LEAVE HIM ALONE!!

>>725209248
Inafume is just the producer of some Gunvolt games for some fucking reason. Kinda like a frontman for publicity. All the actual work is done by IntiCreates.

>>725209484
>I've never played a single Megaman game in my life. I do not give a shit about that series or it's creator.
so you don't give a shit about anything and are seething at people over nothing.

>>725209242
>noooo I can't discuss what the man said I need to discuss the man himself
Okay lets do that. You are an anonymous poster on 4chan.org/v/ therefore we can assume that everything you say is worthless. Is that how you think discussions should go

>>725207868
>He could not stop Glazing the west back then.
Everyone makes mistakes, he couldn't have known how pozzed the industry would get back then.

>>725209607
>>725209673
Yet again an unbelievably impressive ability to miss the point. Good job. I'm proud of you

>>725209546
Then he contradicts himself, retard

>>725209721
he was part of the poz, dummy

>>725209646
Gunvolt wasn't able to move while using his flashfield before Inafune said that was dumb.

>>725209242
I'm still waiting, Japanophobic retards

>>725209646
They should've kept him far away from anything they made especially after mn9, they missed out on my money and I missed out on some good games when they released because of the stink of his association.

>>725209705
Just admit that he's not in position to criticize game industry while he hasn't made anything of value after leaving Crapcom.

>>725208078
Yes or no only.

>>725209841
Agree. Fortunately from all IntiCreates games he only worked as the producer of the main three Gunvolt games.

>>725209736
>the conman said water is wet which just SO PROFOUND and I'm definitely not seething about you bringing up his swindling antics
Shut the fuck up.

>>725210232
See>>725209736
STILL missing the point. But go on give it time hopefully you'll eventually rub together enough neurons to figure it out. I believe in you.

>>725201569
>a guy who contributed to a fresh IP once, 40 years ago
vs
>a guy who just rehashes the same shit that someone else made, 40 times
who is better

>>725210318
>what he said is PROFOUND
Its not you fucking retard.

>>725210531
Keep going bud you'll reach it eventually. You're getting closer but you're still wrong champ.

>>725200643 (OP)
>become known for releasing fun games
>instead of releasing same game rehash x times, evolve with changing player tastes and new generations
Lol what a hack

>>725210589
>conman, creator of endless flops and retard who handed off IPs to garbage western devs says something obvious about the industry
>HOLY FUCKING SHIT THATS SO DEEP LETS TALK ABOUT THAT AND NOT HIM
>t. gif

>>725210531
It is, why are you getting upset about this? The games industry is stagnant.

>>725210959
You'll get there eventually right? You're not THAT stupid are you? Come on anon I'm giving you infinite chances, don't fuck it up.

>>725210983
>The games industry is stagnant.
Thats deep anon.

>>725211121
You're the one calling it profound. Now negro giffer, what do you say?

>>725211204
>you accused me of saying it was profound which means you think it was profound
this coming from someone accusing me of missing the point is hilarious

>>725200643 (OP)
>says "Japan is dead' because Japan doesn't rip off American games
>Leaves Capcom and 1/1 rips off a Japanese game from his own company.
This guy is so unprincipled.

>>725211387
I never accused you of that, two people are calling you a retard in this conversation. So why did you start calling it profound? >>725210531 >>725210232

>>725211532
>I don't understand how greentext works
Not my problem.

>>725200643 (OP)
This guy is such a loser. I wish he died right after Dead Rising 1 released so he could just be remembered as the guy who got pulled a lot of strings for Dead Rising 1.

>>725211532
He's a retard and knows that he has no argument so he started to strawman to pretend he was less retarded than the made up version of me. The point initially made that he is either intentionally missing to save his face or too stupid to notice is that you can talk about an idea and discuss it's merits without focusing on who is the one bringing up the idea. I never said the idea is profound or even agreed with it, the point was simply that rejecting the idea without even considering simply due to who is the on saying it is retarded.

>>725204601
>He was the reason why Level 5 went to shit? No wonder
you're actually fucking retarded if you believe this

>>725211687
>Not my problem.
You made it your problem and got so mad you started negro gif posting. You're not very good at this are you?

>>725212446
>no you're mad
I'm not the one demanding people focus on the fact he made an extremely obvious observation in an attempt to stop people from shitting on him. That's (you).

>>725212920
Yes, you are the one sliding for some reason. I don't know why you'd announce that for everyone to know.

>>725212446
>blond with big tits playing crazy taxi on dreamcast.webm

>>725212986
You keep on seething that mighty number 9 was a flop anon, it doesn't bother me.

>>725212446
ignore the schizophrenic faggot and post the video anon I wanna see

>>725213174
If you admit inafune was right and promise to never say anything bad about him ever again I'll post it.

>>725200643 (OP)
>guy shakes fist at his old employer, swears he'll make it on his own, with blackjack and hookers
>somebody believes him, and most importantly someone with money believes him
>spends years and lots of money making something he swears will show he was right all along
>it comes out and it's a memorable work in all the worst ways, making clear the money went towards him assuaging his hurt ego and pet projects rather than making a good game
>clearly the industry is worse off without such genius
I've seen this before. If I'm following the script right, he'll announce he invented cameras next.

>>725213174
Sure man
https://files.catbox.moe/mdwxc8.webm

>>725213058
lol not even good at intuiting intent

>>725209484
/v/ is too dumb to know what an adhom is. It's impressive but they're really this dumb. Or is it an issue of education? Maybe they're just not that well-educated, I'll post a link explaining what it is to help.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ad_hominem

>>725212446
>>725213619
>big tiddy blonde playing vidya nude
More commercials should do this.

>>725213619
>lol not even good at intuiting intent
I unironically hope this is like five meta layers of trolling and not serious. If it is then kudos to you for making me question it.

>>725200643 (OP)
How can a man who relied on IP fame criticise others for reliance on IP fame?

>>725201142
>Look I even attached an image of a serious looking Iwata, a guy you like because he's Nintendo
Yeah, everyone totally likes the guy who was all about IP prestige over quality, it's why he tanked the Wii, almost killed the 3ds and did kill the Wii U.
The only people who like iwata are the contrarians who hate the switch

>>725214236
Because they aren't relying on HIS input, see. It could just be seething about Capcom opening its doors to Kamiya to make Okami 2 and not giving him a call as well.

>>725213619
>he delivered
based