Thread 725351748

Streamer slop.

>Missing out on game of the decade because of streamers
lol

>>725351795
It's nothing special. People who have played The Division in the dark zone will know the experience.

>>725351748 (OP)
I genuinely do not get the hype around this game, I bought it cheap on a key site because my friends wanted to play it and it's just so fucking boring.

How are people saying this garbage is GOTY? It's pure ass.

>>725351795
bet this nigga said the same thing about helldivers

>>725351748 (OP)
>>725351890
>>725352106
very cool keep us posted!

>>725351890
>People who have played The Division in the dark zone will know the experience.
I haven't played so elaborate.

>>725352169
Helldivers 2 is a great game though

>>725351748 (OP)
My friends begged me to get this game and I’m kinda mixed on it. Taking on other squads similarly well equipped to my own is incredibly fun. Unfortunately, 99% of the gameplay is picking up literal garbage and sneaking around. The overwhelming majority of the pvp is just ganking or being ganked.
I think I just want another game like tlou factions and it’s frustrating that this game has the same sort of bones but is a mediocre extraction shooter with no balanced pvp mode.

>>725351748 (OP)
Battletrannies lost

>>725351748 (OP)
I'm playing duckov right now and is having fun.
How is arc raiders different than duckov aside of there's online real players?

>>725353191
Duckov has better progression

>>725353191
Arc Raiders has better progression

Killed my first rocketeer with the hullcracker ;)
it took like 10-12 shots. sturdy.
next I need to do land dudes.
since I'm a consolefag I wait until 10 minutes to fight since I can't win pvp if someone checks in. then hatch escape.

>>725353987
I'm too scared to lose mine even though I have 3

The highest rated MP shooter since OW1.
Let that sink in.

>>725351890
wasn't The Division a filthy cover shooter with severely fucked health/dmg balance?
either way, I've skipped these because who the fuck plays ubishit

STOP THE COUNT
>game will be dead in a week
STOP THE COUNT

its fun but would be better in first person

>>725353581
Is there progression? I watched a streamer for 3 hours and all he did was run a couple different maps to loot the same couple of materials to get purple gear to do nothing with it and maybe sometimes lose it. What are you doing differently at level 75 than at level 10? I feel like I'm missing something

>>725351748 (OP)
I just finished the last quest and thought they were all fun little bite sized things that made me explore specific parts of the maps
then I went and started the expedition and holy fuck it's just a bullshit grind. very sad it's both a mindless resource sink and extremely long

>>725354434
The bar isn't that high then

>>725351748 (OP)
it's quality slop, people are only playing it because there's no other good extraction shooters.

>>725354741
Blueprints not carrying over is a dealbreaker

>>725354973
I don't mind the blueprints but redoing all the workshop upgrades again is gonna be fucking cancer, especially the rusted gears which are the rarest drop in the game for some reason

>>725351748 (OP)
Im playing it right now i don't know what it is but i have 6 hours in game and i had only 1 PVP situation. People are too nice on my servers, even some randos just came to me and revived me when ARC shot me down.

>>725355323
Solos is 80% friendly 20% aggressive and squads is the exact opposite

>>725355375
So if i want PVP i should go squads ? Good to know.

>>725354741
you know it's optional?

>>725354178
I earn like 10k minimum per mission, including deaths. I have nothing to spend it on so losing 1 per day is fine.

>>725355323
Be the changes you want to see.
Start being hyper aggressive and gun down everyone you see, even the one that saved you.

>>725354973
it’s not

>>725355637
Hahahaha that would be too much of a dick move.

Having fun so far but this is one of the worst UI's I've ever experienced, and I play Hunt on console. It's borderline unusable, it needs loadouts fast.

>>725355515
yeah but it's the content. it's optional like all the missions are.

>>725355995
How will you have loadouts when you run out of specific things all the time?

>>725356340
It could just autocraft the needed materials first, plenty of more complicated games with multiple paths to materials have done that.

>>725355143
You realize that the maps tell you what kind of loot spawns in each zone, right?
If you're looking in industrial areas it's piss easy to find

>>725354973
The current blueprint system is asinine. All kinds of basic bitch components, guns, and attachments require you to have the blueprint to craft them, and the best way to get them is to run in with a minimalist loadout with a safe slot and follow a route you looked up on YouTube. The current state of the “endgame” is really just about doing blueprint/security locker runs.

I guess you can also run around fucking up other players, but you won’t be getting anything you actually need from it because it really all comes down to the blueprints that everyone immediately sticks in their safe slot.

The whole game just feels kind of underbaked and directionless. I can hunt down blueprints or rare weapons, but the best method is boring as all hell. I can fight arc, but all you really need to do that is grenades and enough heavy ammo. I can fuck up other players, but I’m not actually likely to get any decent loot.

>>725355995
try pubg's ui on console and come back humbled

What's a good anti-nigger gun? I'm tired of helping faggots that turn on me, but both guns in my inventory are slowler single-shot and designed for killing ARCs.

>>725356748
Shotguns. They shred.

>everyone runs the exact same combo of venator/anvil or osprey
>everyone has the same build cause security lockers are busted
>whoever spawns closest so security lockers cashes out
>everyone else just extracts
games solved already

>>725356748
I was having fun in pvp with the burletta with an extended mag just mag dumping

>>725351748 (OP)
follow me crew

>help up a guy who got blown up by pop in a high loot area
>Thank you! Work together?
>I say that I'm just looking for cooling fans and he can keep the rest
>as soon as he heals up he bodies me
I am done saving you.

Also I've been hitting the technological sites on night raids and I haven't found a single cooling fan. Do these not spawn at night at all?

>>725356748
venator is the goat for mag dumping

1 MORE WEEK TO GO SHART RAIDERS PIGGIES

>>725356748
Stitcher if you're poor, burletta or iltoro if you unlocked them. From blue to purple everything with a high ROF counts. If you have good aim renegade pops them in seconds. I've seen shroud kill whole teams with it

>>725357164
Everyone already seen through this bugged mess and the laughable 'hardcore' playstyle.

Can a friend @ me whenever there's a lush blossom on dam or blue gate, thanks

>>725357164
The /vg/ thread has been dead for a day by now...

>>725357164
do you REALLY believe there's such a massive overlap between these games?
do you also expect codkiddies and fartnitefags to jump over to next Arma?
>>725356578
>muh endgame
>I need keys dangling in front of me or I don't what to do
>I need minmax everything, I can't just play and have fun
>I'm such a massive faggot
>waah

>>725357679
Ironically (and hilariously) you’re the little niggerfaggot obsessed with jingling keys. I already dropped this sad excuse for a game while your stupid ass is still digging through virtual garbage piles just to find a piece of trash with a shiny border around it.

>>725354504
made for BWC

>>725351890
The division was so shit though

>>725355387
Yup. On my server there's usually a squad or two on every map who just play full aggro. It's a real coin flip on who will shoot at you.

Servers fucked for anyone or just my internet being ass? I just lost two pinks because of it

>maximum storage space is 280
>can't do shit without hoarding items
Yeah fuck this game. It's basically forcing you to do one meaningless task at a time instead of just collecting items and solving everything at once.

>>725351748 (OP)
flavor of the month

>>725352369
>99% of the gameplay is picking up literal garbage and sneaking around. The overwhelming majority of the pvp is just ganking or being ganked
This kind of people amazes me
Have you not heard about the whole ass genre called "extraction shooter"? Tarkov? Hunt: Showdown? It's been there for fucking years. Fucking pubg is kinda similar to it too. Have you ever heard of pubg? Where have you been for the last, idk, 10 years? Didn't you have a PC until a week ago or something? You live in a rural area, and you only got access to internet this year?

It's really astonishing to see normalniggers like this getting exposed to the genre for the first time in their lives and either love it (like OP) or hate it like you. I mean, it's normal to hate or love it, it's irrelevant. What's important is that you both see it for the first time in your life. What the fuck are you doing on this board? Was your previous experience only mobile games on your mother's phone or some nintendo games on switch? You are essentially a normalnigger who doesn't even know shit about games. I'm bewildered, it's just spectacular to see. Like a living caveman

All these threads on this board are filled with these normalniggers and their baby's first extraction shooter. Holy cow!

>>725361136
Storage becomes a lot easier once you've got a high level refiner. When my space gets high I just pump metal into mechanical parts (and into advanced mechanical parts from there, if needed). Turn cloth into durable cloth, etc... Frees up a lot of space. I blitz through mechanical parts rapidly, thanks to making Anvils. So I manage to keep myself from capping out too badly.

I DONT CARE ABOUT MULTIPLAYER GAMES
I DONT CARE ABOUT MULTIPLAYER GAMES
I DONT CARE ABOUT MULTIPLAYER GAMES
I DONT CARE ABOUT MULTIPLAYER GAMES
I DONT CARE ABOUT MULTIPLAYER GAMES

GIVE ME A STORY, GIVE ME GOOD CHARACTERS, GIVE ME CUTSCENES, GIVE ME WELL DESIGNED ENEMIES

NO I WILL NOT PLAY YOUR SLOP OF THE MONTH THAT WILL BE REPLACED BY SOME OTHER SLOP

SHUT THE FUCK UP AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

>>725361242
You don't really loot much in Hunt, but yes. You are right. The guy is a retard regardless because you really don't spend much time looting in this game. Even with purple backpacks you can fill up a backpack very quickly. Most of the game has been PvP for me.

>>725361360
Go watch a movie, faggot.

>>725361315
Thanks, maybe I should focus on leveling that.

>>725361424
go be a miserable rank grinder and wasting 1000 of hours of your life on shitty games while i experience peak storytelling and art

>>725361554
There is no ranked.

>>725361615
doesnt matter you will still put in 1000 of hours, watch meta strategy videos on youtube, go in the discord and talk about the game on xitter all day to get optimal play and get your 50% winrate up to a whopping 52% or even higher
such fun

MULTIPLAYER GAMES ARE NOT VIDEOGAMES
FUCK OFF WITH YOUR LIQUID SHIT
GRIND GRIND GRIND GRIND SAME THING DAY IN DAY OUT BATTLEPASS GRIND JOB PILLED NIGGIFICATION OF ART

>>725361360
>I don't want slop
>Please give me cutscenes
faggot

>>725361715
Video games aren't art. Read a book or go look at a painting, nigga.

>>725351748 (OP)
It's uncslop.

>>725361858
sorry that i dont have a tiktok rotted brain that needs pew pew explosions every 3 seconds or else ill fall asleep like alot of americans and other third worlders are
i read books too and listen to music in my freetime without looking at 3 different screens at the same time
you zoomer niggers should literally get scalped, cut into pieces and sold on an african trademarket so that youll have SOME sorta worth for this planet we call earth
DIE DIE DIE DIE DIE DIE DIE DIE DIE

>>725361882
no surprise someone who plays multiplayer slop cant comprehend art
stick with your boiling liquid shit but keep it outta my face please

>>725361882
>Video games aren't art
This mindset killed games and bred retarded zoomer niggers like you

>>725361360
>story

>>725361715
>MULTIPLAYER GAMES ARE NOT VIDEOGAMES
All games before video games were multiplayer games (like chess, go etc.). Even some of the earliest video games are multiplayer. MULTIPLAYER IS FOUNDATION OF GAMING.

>>725362301
you played those games together with friends in person which is a huge difference from grinding battleslop passes in fortnite to unlock skins that ull only use once and never again

>>725362416
No one talking about Fortnite here. Not all multiplayer games are Fortnite. Fuck off with your straw man bullshit.

>>725362301
Funny how a nigger zoomer like you talks about games he never experienced
What do you know, clown?

>>725351748 (OP)
The game is so painfully unresponsive to play and looting is terrible. Why is it that a battle royale like apex legends can instantly simultaneously process hundreds and thousands of loot items but there’s a captcha timer on revealing items in this game? Somehow arc raiders also feels like an indie game with really boring dumb decisions from presentation to content. Mostly I can’t forgive this input delay or the 3rd person format there’s a second delay on everything.

>>725351795
>extraction shooter
>game of the decade

>>725362549
its all still the same job simulator where you have to play daily to have just an ounce of a chance against all the metasloppers in the lobby
its how EVERY multiplayer game nowadays works

>>725362621
Multiplayer games has real challenge and that challenge hurts your ego when you fail. That's why you hate it. Single players games are much more of a time waste. There's no real challenge in Elden Ring once you figure out all the attack patterns and timings. Multiplayer on other hand is always unpredictable and infinitely complex because you challenging equal form of intelligence (other humans).

>>725363225
there is no skill involved in doing the same thing autisticly for 1000 of hours for absolutly no reward either other than a shitty rank that no one outside the games community cares for
its essentially just like speedrunning
you are not enjoying yourself or having fun so why even bother with it? you can just work a job and actually earn money by doing so instead which will always be more valuable
when i play singleplayer games on the other hand iam actually enjoying my freetime without being forced to play the same game daily just so i wont fall behind on the ranking
i know replying to you about this topic is meaningless since your dopamine fried zoomer brain is addicted by this system
i feel sorry for you
maybe once you grow older and your reflexes die down youll see just how valuable single player games are instead of this shitty ass sloppa

>>725363225
>>725363598
continueing my post
there is no skill involved in any mp games
just be 16 years old, spend atleast 3000 hours+ on the game and read up on the meta
literally anyone can be a "pro" at these shitty ass games
but those same pros would struggle when faced with a game they never played before
true gaming skill is when you can adapt quick to games youve never played before, can use logical thinking without relying on guides and understand the story you are engaging with without needing to watch a youtuber explaining it to you
it has value and will never die but your shitty mp game will be dead someday and replaced by some other shitty mp game

>>725363598
>Play Fortnite
haha, I unlocked Flanders.
>Anon screeches endlessly because muh cosmetics
>Play DBD
haha, I got 3/4 of the survivors
>Anon screeches endlessly because I shouldn't be enjoying the game because there is no tangible reward
>Play WoW
haha, I got a little more powerful today
>Anon screeches endlessly because the game is a second job where power comes from time invested
Did you ever consider that maybe you're just a miserable faggot?

>>725363598
>there is no skill involved
>you just need to play 3000 hours to be better than others
Yeah that's what skill is.

>>725363827
thanks for prooving my point i guess? yes all that shit you just mentioned is mindless and has no worth
playing a good singleplayer game is an experience youll never forget on the other hand that will shape you and help you to improve as a human being
your virtual slot machines on the other hand only make you a worse person to be around with (not just personality wise but also in terms of looks and smell)
you look like an heroin addict telling me to get high because its good
keep your drugs to yourself

>>725363934
its not a real skill and the system is rigged in such a way that its already pre-determined before the match even starts if you are going to win or lose just to keep you playing all day
you might aswell call cleaning toilets a skill then

>>725364051
>its not a real skill and the system is rigged in such a way that its already pre-determined before the match even starts if you are going to win or lose just to keep you playing all day
Explain in detail how Fortnite is rigged.

>>725364051
Not all games has EOMM. You're free to play the ones without rigged 50/50 win rate.

so the hidden bunker drops nothing?

>>725364108
fortnite tends to put bots in your match
if you start playing all enemies will be bots for your first 5 matches to keep you addicted
new skins and battlepasses release every once in a while
they pay shills online to advertise these skins which arent any better than modded gmod characters since they have no voicelines
you are being manipulated by a big coorporation to play a mindless shit game and waste your time away for meaningless skins that you will lose someday
if you lose too much the game will purposfully either give you bot enemies or shitty players to give you a free win so youll keep playing their slot machine
its a predatory system only made to get money and time from you
all the skins are just a form of advertisement and the gameplay is absolutly meaningless
just go flip burgers at mcdonalds or something if you want to be an actual useful asset for humanity

>>725364125
they are all the same
only good mp games are the ones with a server list (and even those are a huge waste of time imo since you could just play a good singleplayer or couch coop game instead)

>>725351748 (OP)
i clicked on xqc stream, to see gameplay
hi sit in corner under roof of some room and wait for someone to come to kill him 3vs1
people play it
wtf

>>725363971
>playing a good singleplayer game is an experience youll never forget on the other hand that will shape you and help you to improve as a human being
Video games only have two kinds of stories:
>1) Stories written by engineers as an after-thought
>2) Stories written by writers that are so god awful that they can't get a job writing episodes of Law & Order or licensed novel sloppa
The trashiest booktok porn novel has better writing than any video game. Paying attention to stories in games is an enormous waste of time.

>>725364503
xqc is legit a wretch of a human

>>725364602
you are just engagement baiting me so ill stop replying to your mindless drivel for good
have a good day anon

>>725364602
>>725364675
post cont.
i hereby accept your concession and wish you the best luck on your next argument

>>725351748 (OP)
All games are streamer slop it feels like.

>>725361424
>>725361858
>>725362096
Yeah okay fags, I'm sure you hardcore true gamers enjoy classics like Ghosts and Goblins on the regular right? Contra? Oh, and who can forget Pac-Man? You fags are the truest of the true.

>use family share to try it out
>get killed 30 seconds after spawning to snipers and shotguns while I'm stuck with a rattler twice in a row
>3rd round
>kill 2 groups of people
>5 minutes to end
>get one shot by a leaper
>get revived
>get killed by a turret as I'm going up a rope that I had no way of stopping
>uninstall right after

Aside from the generic setting, lack of interesting world, AI voice acting in every aspect, and tacky designs made to sell more outfits.
How did Embark convince everyone to blow at least $40 on a multiplayer only extraction shooter with F2P style monetization with limited time battle passes and a seasonal rotation? Is it because Hunt showdown got away with it?

>slop

Mutt goblin zoomoid discourse.

>>725365394
get gud
unironically

>>725365112
Streamer slop is unironically a good thing if you ask yourself what makes a good streamer game.
>high replay value
>high player expression
>sandbox environment
>engaging moment to moment gameplay
>random events and easter eggs
>character building and progression
>minimal narrative all gameplay
>good visuals and sound
Arc Raiders pretty much ticks all the boxes.

>>725353581
LOL it is widely considered that ARC has poor progression with minimal end game content.
Lets not even talk about the shitty inventory/ loot system and all the useless loot.
ARC needs to push the PVE and have more ARC robots to fight! Have them all kind of like mini bosses.

>>725365796
Nah, I hate extraction shooters

>>725361360
Single players are dead, anon. The newer gen of gamers don't play them anymore. Elden Ring and Cyberpunk were probably the last big ones in recent memory.

>>725365927
people have been saying this since 2010
wasnt true back then and still wont be true today

>>725361952
Nta but I'm 34 and you need to chill out. Not every game will be made for you, go play E33

>>725365927
>elden ring
>cyberpunk
>baldurs gate 3
>clair obscur
>hollow knight
Literally all the big games from the last few years have been single-player.

>>725366014
i would be able to chill out if it wasnt for the internet always pushing the newest MP slop in my face
i just came outta the simpsons in fortnite advertisement spam and now its the ARC Raiders advertisement spam

LEAVE ME THE FUCK ALONEEEE
i wish there was a way to filter all of this retarded shit from my timeline

>>725366087
>baldurs gate 3
they did my girl Viconia dirty

>>725366087
I don't get the hype of Clair Obscur. It's just Paper Mario TTYD with the tryhard deep aesthetics and pretentious music of NiER Automata. Give me a fucking break.

>>725365394
I don't even know what I'd do with all this woman.

>>725361360
>Storyfag
Yikes

>>725366241
paper mario is easy as shit (also normies dont play paper mario) while e33 is challenging, has good graphics, a godlike soundtrack and a story that goes beyond "we gotta defeat the big evil to save the world"
even mentioning it in the same breath as paper mario is kinda cringe desu
literally the only similarity is the rhythm based combat

>fallout 4 tier pipe guns

no thanks

>>725366241
>I don't get
didn't play the game

>>725365797
You're right, but streamers are mostly cancer. The game has a rather unique style, due to the things that encourage to cooperate with strangers. I wouldn't really consider it slop, when looking at the insane attention to detail, how well the arcs work to create real hazards, etc. Streamers would prefer if all of those unique elements were removed, as people like summit get really pissed when they get removed by the rocketeer, or ambushed by a hornet at the wrong time.

>>725362551
Pong is one of, if not the first game in the world made from radar equipment, and it was a multiplayer game. What now "boomer"? You weren't alive back then so you have no argument, you retarded monkey.

>>725365927
not dead, just lesser and lesser to a point prbably 1 or 2 big ones every 3-5years. Investors are now addicted to 'forever games'
>>725366087
you do now how many big live service games from 2021 till 2025 are there right? excluding those that are already running forever

>>725365394
>that I had no way of stopping
You can jump off ropes

Are there any "survival" mechanics in this game like drinking water or eating food with autistic inventory weight management where you have to decide between carrying ten extra bullets or a potato?

>>725367351
Could you name a few, please?

>>725367887
No.

>>725367963
Dang. One day.

>>725353987
wolfpack one shots the rocketeer bro

is this game actually fun? i don't have any friends that would play this kind of game

>>725368836
you need 2 actually

https://streamable.com/bqy664

GOTY

>>725368963
I'm hooked on it but mostly because I'm burnt out on single player games and enjoy scavenging, but it really isn't anything special. Sometimes you'll get fun encounters with other players but that's it.

i'll wait for the pve only mode

>>725351748 (OP)
satisfying watching all the dumb low IQ pussies cry about this game

>>725351890
yeah, we already had the fill of extraction shooters in 2016 (nine years ago)

>>725370040
>nine years ago
>extraction shooters


bahahahahaha! retard

>>725361715
There’s no ratings in this game. If you are at 50% extract rate you just suck ass

>>725361360
go watch a movie, dumbass. Slop is the challenge-less interactive movies that clowns like you keep slurping up.

>go in
>collect bunch of random shits
>extract
>repeat for about 5 horus
>still collecting the same scapes and using the same gun
how do you progress in this game?

>>725370242
I think slot machines in a seedy bar have the same type of fun

This game would be unironically much much better if people could have self-hosted servers.

>>725357026
set me free crew

God I fucking love the ferro. God's perfect garbage stick.

The only interesting thing about this game is watching normies have their first run in with an extraction game.

>>725370858
>kill people with better loot
>keys
>crafting
>breach secure containers
focus on night raids and other events with better loot pool

>>725370932
cope

>>725371531
So there's not really progression, more like an extremely long fortnite game.

Does this game have permadeath? Or you lose all your equipment upon death?

>>725372626
if you don't extract you lose everything you have on you

>>725372626
The core concept of an extraction shooter is that you have the stuff in your stash, which you can access between rounds, and you have the stuff on your person, which you lose when you die. So anything that you take out of your stash to bring with you during a round can be lost, and anything that you pick up can be lost unless you extract with it so you can store it in your stash.

>>725370309
The idea of these extraction games is more or less how Ultima Online was played. Equipment was disposable, if you got PK'd that shit was probably just gone. So you'd keep a bunch of extra gear either in your bank box or in your house.

>>725351890
Ah yes, I remember when dark zone had robots that were actually fun to fight.

>>725352182
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bH0WYxJDwms

>>725371667
you have quests that inform your runs, and personal stats to level up along with leveling your crafting tables.
With the goal being to level up your character and gather resources towards each milestone till you start doing the expedition project.
Once you do that, you basically prestige for benefits till the seasonal wipe

>>725371667
>>725374575
sorry, not wipes.
Till the current expedition window closes and we wait for the next one to open.
Its so they respect your time investment and if you wanna gear wipe to progress an expedition or not.

>>725370858
There isnt any. This isnt Tarkov with a great gun system. There is no point to Arc. Why do you think all the conversation on gameplay is just "damn the bots are cool", its because thats the one and only thing this game did.

>>725374575
So it's like a really long fortnite game with contrived meta progression ensuring you can noob bash people with playtime.

>>725351748 (OP)
it's technically very well made game (even though it's UE5slop) but I just don't get the gameplay loop. what is fun about running around and looting shit? this genre should be way more niche

>>725376983
It's flavor of the month novelty, it is niche and it will fall to a more Tarkov like player count when the next FOTM comes out.

>>725351748 (OP)
I got it for free with my 5080.
Should I play it? I never played extraction anything before in my life.
From current multiplayer games I like overwatch, valorant, cs2, fortnite, pubg.

>>725377679
ya you'll like it

>>725374101
The Leaper is the only Arc that's fun, all the other's are boring/ annoying to deal with.

I’ll be honest I think this has great atmosphere and presentation but I can’t be fucked to spend half the game autistically crafting and sorting menus. I guess this is a zoomer niche thing to stimulate their adhd riddled brains? Its fun to play with friends though

>>725376250
it's not any longer than a typical fortnite match

>>725377854
>I can't hold my attention for longer than 10 seconds when menus are involved
>do I have ADHD? no, it's the others who have ADHD

>>725377880
That's not what I said, I said that it's Fortnite with meta progression, for example stats that objectively make your character better than lower level characters. It's Fortnite with another layer of grind and loot gambling. I can't see this not ending with noobs being stomped by PKers.

>>725351795
>battle royale BUT WITH NPCs copy/paste slop #345245125
>goty
i can literally list off 20 of these cash grab trend casers from the past 2 years alone and every single one failed after 3 months because the gameplay is dogshit and devolves into simply camping a known choke and recording a video of "nerd rage" for clicks.

>>725377986
>Man who only watched Boss Baby, watching his second movie

>>725377995
tarkov and billions of other dayz offshoots have been going strong for like 10 years, what bizarre tiktok alt reality do you live in?

>>725351795
Its GOTD to them because they get good views. In two weeks they are going to be super bored and complain nonstop

>>725378225
You could try disputing what I said but you can't because you know I'm right and that makes you mad. I hope this seed of fact doesn't ruin your gameplay when you realize what you're actually doing, shitty Fortnite matches with extra gambling mechanics.

>>725377995
ok, list them

>>725378379
2 weeks ago you said the game would be dead in 2 weeks

>>725379012
It is impossible to know when the normies will get bored, we can only know the ingredients.

>>725379116
you sure like to speak authoritatively about something you obviously don't understand anyway
in fact, you have to be a massive fucking retard to post the retarded shit you post, it's botlike behavior

>>725379012
The game hasn't even been out for 2 weeks though, so I guess by Thursday we will see if people run out/get bored. Legitimately people with a brain were done with the "content" in the first weekend

feel like solo proves the game needs a pve mode

>>725379195
Actually I do understand it, it's a game whose PVE attracts normies and whose PVP makes them rage quit. It's obvious how it'll end and PVPers will speed up the process as they'll churn through normies faster than the game will gain them.

>>725379116
>It is impossible to know when the normies will get bored, we can only know the ingredients.
>well one day it will lose players!
wow youre such a genius holy shit. every single game in existence must be a fotm flop according to you.

>>725379269
Nah PVE is too easy, there is a reason the devs looked at what they had years ago and decided to delay and put in PVP/genre shift.
>>725379324
>fotm
Yes
>flop
No

Arc hasn't even hit Schedule 1's all time peak, and this is at its most "hype".

>>725379324
Well yes, many games are FOTM slop and aren't very good outside of novelty. But you see the real problem is when you make a multiplayer game that relies on new players to keep it fresh, it's a common problem FOTM multiplayer games have because they make mechanics around new players rather than realizing the core problem with elite players ultimately making it impossible to get new players.

>>725379269
>Please remove the central point your game is designed around!
You're retarded. You guys ask for this in literally every PvPvE game.
If you want an extraction game without PvP:
https://store.steampowered.com/app/3167020/Escape_From_Duckov/

>>725379241
I can find a billion bot posts 2+ weeks ago during the server slam saying the same bot catchphrases, it actually blows my mind how "people" can just endlessly repeat their fundamentally wrong assumptions nonstop, be proven wrong over and over and still fail to gain an ounce of self-awareness.
Tarkov posters are also hilarious for saying it will kill ARC, it's trivial to check that ARC had an order of magnitude more wishlists and follows, this is basic analysis based on concrete data, anything you post is utter delusion.

>>725379637
Why are you afraid of two game modes? If everyone wants to play PVPVE then why not add PVE to attract the 100k Duckov players. I think you know why you hate this idea, you know that PVP is not why people play but you love the griefing aspect.

>>725379426
>Arc hasn't even hit Schedule 1's all time peak, and this is at its most "hype".
Arc already surpassed it. Its available on console as well.
>Well yes, many games are FOTM slop and aren't very good outside of novelty. But you see the real problem is when you make a multiplayer game that relies on new players to keep it fresh, it's a common problem FOTM multiplayer games have because they make mechanics around new players rather than realizing the core problem with elite players ultimately making it impossible to get new players.
It's a very good game which is why it managed to surpass its peak in its second week. That means word of mouth spread and the community is raving about it. Even Hunt manages to survive with 20k players. Arc wont fall below that on PC alone.

>>725379426
>years ago
TT1 was about a year before launch and that's the absolute earliest it was being considered

>>725379872
The charts will be the same as Helldivers 2 except much faster because the PVP griefers make people rage quit instead of the slow churn of meta fags griefing on mic.

>>725379872
Arc on Steam peaked at 380k
Schedule 1 peaked at 459k
Pretty fucking large difference

I didn't even bring up Battlefield whose 24h peak is still higher than Arc

>>725379637
>"the central point your game is designed around"
>late-in-development pivot after public testing
>game still has a metric shit ton of co-op leftovers like death flares and extract announcements
please tell me you're being retarded on purpose

>>725379767
>please remove the central point your game is designed around!
>mm? go play a game thats designed how I want it? NO I WANT THIS ONE TO CHANGE TO MY WHIMS!
You guys don't like the genre. Fun fact at least one PvPvE game added a PvE only mode and then removed it because nobody played it
I genuinely don't understand how it's possible to be as retarded as you gentlemen. Who goes and plays Mario and thinks "damn I wish this game was a fishing game instead"

>>725380214
As the game is released and currently playable, the PvPvE is the entire point of the game. If you take any part of that out, it falls apart. Also
>heh it WAS a different genre but nobody liked it
isn't the own you think it is retard.

>>725380513
I don't understand why this makes you so mad. This is the strangest form of gatekeeping I've ever seen which as I said is really based on your insecurity because you understand a PVE mode would dominate the PVP mode otherwise you wouldn't care because no, the game isn't built around PVP, it's just PVE with a boolean flag for player damage.

Stash management is infuriating, I’m always out of space. Why is there a limit to how much stuff you can store in an extraction game designed around looting? Most items I don’t know if I should keep or sell so I spend minutes trying to figure it out between runs. Putting together a new loadout after you die is also annoying and unintuitive, I end up taking the free loadout half the time cause I can’t be bothered.

>>725380157
>Arc on Steam peaked at 380k
add in console players and it has a higher playercount than that game. regardless what is even your point? some games such as battlefield have a higher playercount? arc is still a success same as battlefield same as schedule 1. these are all successes. you guys said it would flop. then its a fotm and 2 more weeks it will be dead when it surpassed its peak.all i know is that you guys are retarded.

>>725380682
It's all the worst parts of modded Minecraft, isn't that fun?

>>725351795
>game of the decade
Maybe in terms of sound design, certainly nothing else

>>725380214
You obviously never played the game or just lack any sort of concept around how they expect you to be playing it, how are death flares and timing announcements in any way a coop thing? 2/3rds of the guns are basically meant purely for PvP since anything non-armor-piercing is pretty ineffective against bots.

>>725380943
You do realize that gun stats are numbers in a spreadsheet right?

>>725380682
It's trying to incentivize not taking a free loadout ironically. The design is for you to risk your abundant items for better but specific items you want. It's quite annoying but I appreciate it because otherwise I definitely would never use anything from fear of loss autism. Because I can't keep everything, I might as well use it and not feel too bad when I lose a loadout. That's what it does for me.

>>725380513
it was some combination of nexon breathing down their neck and a cheap way to add replay value, player complaints were largely the same as they are now if you take away the "i hate extraction players" whining which is that it was pretty bare on assignments and things to actually do besides walk around the world

>>725380943
TT2 was some of the most boring shit i've ever played and the game is barely different now

>>725380649
>CHANGE THE GAME TO WHAT I WANT TO PLAY
Why don't you just go play a game that's already what you want to play?
>a PVE mode would dominate the PVP mode
This is retarded for three reasons.
First to my knowledge only a single PvPvE game added PvE only and then promptly removed it because nobody played it.
Secondly think for half a second about what you're saying
>There's more people who want the game to be something else than people who want the game to be what it is
Seeing as it's extremely successful, probably not.
Third, apparently it WAS a PvE game and got changed because nobody fucking liked it.

>>725381109
Again, it's really weird how upset you are. If this game is so good why aren't you playing it?

>>725361360
based

>>725381068
A green-tier loadout costs basically nothing and scrappy gives you all the basics you need but you have to jump around 10 different UI contexts, QoL creep can ruin games but some streamlining is needed there.

>>725381146
>engage with any points made: X
>deflect: O
You're a fag and your shits all retarded.

>>725380682
Does it have an eye on it? Yes? Keep it. No? Toss it. stop hoarding shit, stop thinking about what you might need, if it was that big of a deal to you, you'd look up a quick what to keep guide. You aren't meant to just be able to grab everything in every run and keep everything always. You use things, they run out, they get stolen, you toss them for better things you value more. Sure they should improve the amount of visible connections between items, how they can be utilized or what they can be broken down into, but don't keep looting random shit and then unloading them into your stash and then getting confused when you don't know what to do with all of it. Have a goal in mind and stick to it and complete it and move on to the next task.

Why does this streamerslop have AI voice changer? Is this game just a big data mining collector?

>>725381334
There are no points made, you're mad I suggested that a game that is 90% PVE should allow for a 100% PVE mode for people who don't like playing with griefers. That's a valid opinion. And I'm doing you the courtesy of not interpreting your argument that you think this game is perfect and should have no new features or content.

>>725378370
>chink bots still play these dead bot games
I live in reality buddy. anything with any promise gets nuked by shit devs like marauders or darker and darker

>>725381339
So what you're saying is the inventory management system is bad and adds no real value to the game outside of tedious chores.

>>725381419
>Why does this streamerslop have AI voice changer?
A voice modulator has nothing to do with AI. The tech has been around for fucking 20 years now.
>why modulators
most new online games are going to be featuring this. It's an "inclusion" thing so you don't rage at someone for being a woman or a fag.

>>725381462
huh? there's no "promise", the game is out already
people hoped dark and darker would be less shit after the playtests but the devs have always been consistently retarded, promises are just promises

>>725380723
Its more that people are hyping it up in the honeymoon phase still, and its the same shit as every FOTM MP game

i watched max dood play it last night and it seemed like he was just staring at inventory the whole time, maybe 5% of the time was shooting

>>725369464
This. I’m done otherwise. Not trying to keep up with sweaty 18 year olds griefing me while I scavenge.

>>725381674
the craziest thing I saw was a tarkov guy just loading in a factory map with a full kit and killing people without looking at corpses at all, just kill and go next, some people just play different game

>>725351795
>game of the decade
is this just a shill line or are there people that actually believe this?

>>725381945
The amount of times I've died to random run and gun tards while doing trials is both amusing and infuriating, but it's just part of the game and what makes it tick. If there's no survival pressure then there's no game.

>>725381109
He's right though, you know your griefing simulator is actually just unpopular, must suck realizing everyone hates you and doesn't want to play with you lol, ill be back for pve only mode or ill never be back. Simple as.

>>725352106
nexon and embark run bot farms and also pay out the ass to inorganically form cults around their games. there are more people still shilling the finals in every corner of the internet every day than are actually still playing it.

>>725382319
390 thousand people are playing rn lil bro im sure the devs are in a hurry to put in a pve mode

>>725382313
>survival pressure
PVE and make the AI robots stronger and more plentiful. This isn't hard.

>>725382313
Disagree, wasting my time and pissing me off also is no game.

>>725370858
That's all there is to the game
The game will be a wasteland once the normies realise this, and hop onto the next FOTM

>>725382443
Let's say PVE players are 10% more players, are you stupid? I bet you suck dick for less.

>>725382319
>I bought a game in a genre I don't like
Genius.
>This game company who already got my money MUST change the game!
But they already got your money. They don't care about you anymore retard-kun

>>725382443
Oh right I forgot those are all turbosweat hardcore pvp fans who love getting shot in the back and not just the retarded youtube hivemind.

>>725382319
Good. People who can’t handle PVP games shouldn’t be playing videogames at all, and much less should they be posting here. Fuck off with your useless faggot ass.

>>725382560
I think having less players makes your multiplayer game worse. I think you should think about building bridges and not burning them.

>>725382560
If they want more then theyll change, pretty easy for me to walk away, no big deal.

>>725351795
It's mid and will fall off in 2 months.

I can't think of a single PvP game that was made better by having more PvE elements, mann vs machine was trash, the fortnite bosses and goons are trash, they only distracted from the actual game.

>>725382613
I speak 4 languages and play 3 instruments. I work as a full time 3D artist.
What tangible accomplishments do you have? Because being le super ebin hardcore obese gaymer certainly isn’t one of them lmao.

>>725382769
This isn't a PVP game, this is a PVE game with forced PVP mechanics that only 5% of the players engage in.

>>725382815
T R V K E

>>725382815
>This isn't a PVP game, the game mechanics just force you to PVP
do you think about the things you say before you say them?

>>725382815
If only 5% of players engage with PvP then surely they need to add more PvP incentives to balance it out.

>>725356578
I think there should be a way to earn blueprints for stuff you find via challenges. For example, if you loot an Anvil off a dead raider and want to earn the blueprint you have to play three rounds with it where you survive for at least 15 minutes and kill at least one rocketeer; Then you get the blueprint. It would encourage people to actually take the loot they find into play instead of just storing it because they’re scared to lose it.
>>725361360
I know this anon is trolling but as someone who’s enjoying the game I do wish there was a bit more of an in universe reason for why raiders would kill each other. As far as I can tell there are no factions, and no reason why raiders wouldn’t work together in all but the most dire circumstances.

>>725382883
If its a pvp game why is the entire progression system built around pve?
Do you think, at all?

>>725382883
Yes, it's a PVE game where you're allowed to shoot other players but contradicts the core game concept of players vs machines that require multiple people to kill. Some people might actually call this an anti-pattern element.

>>725351795
>Game of the decade
Sure thing little bro

>>725382471
but the devs said PVE only mode wasnt fun :^)

>>725382927
Impossible because the game is actually based around cooperatively killing giant robots. Really if I was tasked to make this game more PVP it would make more sense to have players be able to play as some of the robots like Player vs Zombie modes in some games.

>>725382802
> I speak 4 languages and play 3 instruments. I work as a full time 3D artist.

Is anyone supposed to be impressed?

I’m advocating for artists being able to make the art THEY WANT TO MAKE with no impedence. You’re arguing for them to cater to your bitchmade sensibilities. That is all that matters in the context of this discussion. You are useless, and if you do not stand with artists then everything you do is useless and your faggot face deserves to be smashed into concrete repeatedly until no air blows out of it anymore.

>>725382927
Or maybe pvp is unpopular and unimportant and should be removed since no one seems to enjoy or want it other than griefing niggers (who aren’t people).

>>725382934
there is no reason for them to kill each other because the game and world were established as co-op PvE and pivoted late to chase the bag, i don't understand why this keeps getting glossed over or ignored

why are embark shills so unable to just say normal things when praising their games? why does always have to be "best game i have ever played, invalidates every single other game in existence" ad nauseam?

>>725383067
No, the devs realized that the game isn't fun so PVP adds a contrived time wasting mechanic to help hide the illusion of lack of actual game. You see, if you remove the element of randomly dying to a player and losing a full 20+ minutes of time and resetting their progress, people will realize how empty the game is 20+ minutes faster.

>>725382815
>P mechanics that only 5% of the players engage in.
proof?

>>725383093
>the game is actually based around cooperatively killing giant robots
No? The harvester event is the only thing that can be called a raid boss and it's a random minor map modifier with a non-combat main objective.

>>725383194
The game is simply that good, and filtering bitches is part of it.

>>725383134
I think those IRL accomplishments are objectively more impressive than your K/D, yes.
>this corporate trend chasing cashgrab from the artistic vision that brought you concord is art
Lmao

>>725383256
>people will realize how empty the game is 20+ minutes faster.
except for the hundreds of thousands of people playing solo queue friendlies only

>>725383259
My eyes watching people play this game. The game is just a prison simulator where you walk around eggshells because the 5% make the game unfun where they shank you in the back. Most of the time people are helping each other or ignoring each other. So yes, I think 5% is a good estimate of people actively seeking PVP.

Everything about this game feels manufactured to be the next viral hit. Even the name.

>>725351748 (OP)
How is this game and how is it compared to something like The Hunt Showdown? A couple of friends want to play one of them.

if your game is third person, then i'm not going to play it

>>725383351
You can't solo-queue friendlies only your retard, that would be called "PVE only mode". Solo queue is funny too because it's as close to PVE only as you get which goes to show how negative players must feel about it. If the meta of your PVPVE game is to play without your friends if you want actual coop multiplayer that is a bad sign. :)

>>725383432
>My eyes watching people play this game.
oh ok so you have no proof

>>725383646
Sorry anon I don't have the analytics backend like you apparently.

>>725364051
>its not a real skill and the system is rigged in such a way that when people who go to university and study a real skill, they come out ahead every time

>>725383646
Keep coping nigger. Its inevitable. Pvp players are so fucking obnoxiously toxic they cant help but drive people away. Pve-only is coming and I’m going to laugh in your face when it does.
Ill check back in in a few months.

>>725383492
It's a continual uphill slog towards nothing because it's not round-based and there is no end game. Pretty much all the "gameplay" and "fun" is derived from voice chatting with randoms.

>>725361360
only good post in this entire thread

>>725383067
There is nothing you can do to make them beat peeking a corner with a gun, unless they give them destruction capability which doesn't seem like their goal.

>>725383781
Ah well, it seems like you'll have to look for a genre you actually enjoy then. Goodbye and good luck.

>>725383769
Yeah bro you’re really going places with you shooter skills lmao
>>725383818
This

>>725383809
Are the mechanics and moment to moment gameplay fun at all?

>>725383781
I'm not the guy against a PvE mode, Dark and Darker has one and I can recognize shitters need a mode too and more modes is never a bad thing. I just wanted proof for his claim that 5% of people are there for the PvP. He has none, so....

>>725383907
Care to explain why having both PVPVE and PVE modes is bad again? PVE can literally just be "no player damage" turned on so no game resources is spent on the mode.

>>725383907
I got 70 hours out of it, but yeah I’m not stressing out to fight bosses when shawn’d’arious just kills me when I’m about to extract.
Have fun trying to gaslight people that this is enjoyable lmao.

>look at RED
>wow RED looks fun, I bet it plays like BLUE
>wtf why is it RED? where's the BLUE I wanted? make it BLUE right now!
What's up with this game attracting the worst backseat designers in existence? It's like fuckfaces asking for entire classes to be removed in TF2 but somehow even more retarded.

>>725382815
There are lot of PVP extraction games, this one seems to be more about environmental hazards and NPC threats, so it probably has attracted a lot of people with 0 interest in PVP.

>>725384049
Make a game that looks BLUE but it's actually RED.

>>725383953
They're not bad but they're generic and uninspired, which imo is worse than if they were just bad

>>725383967
ARC already has the entire map modifier system for whatever modes they need and there will naturally be seasonal events too, anything on top of that is splintering the playerbase too much. They'll have that epic chungus mode in december where you have to light up fires and it's probably going to be more PvE oriented (making it boring trash).

>>725383953
For awhile yeah but after that its a bit too predictable.

>>725383967
Well I think its pretty evident considering MOST solos always say don’t shoot / friendly
But you’re a dishonest jew so…

>>725384217
its like 20 players a map, even dark and darker is fine and that has like 5k concurrent players. additional modes are fine.

>>725384196
>>725384283
So I'm better off with Hunt Showdown? I've heard it has cool sound design, maps and the traps/setups are fun.

it keeps going up and it's more than double of what it got on the FREE playtest, wtf doomerbros?

>>725384325
pvp fags will always be against pve modes because it dilutes their prey pool

>>725384442
420 Blaze grenade

>>725384442
Saying "I don't like this" doesn't mean I think it will fail. I don't know why zoomers are so obsessed with numbers. A good game with no players doesn't make it a bad game. And a bad game with lots of players doesn't make it good. As a person with free will, I can play games how I like and I've given up long ago about my faith in people's tastes as they spend $250 on WoW skins.

>>725384316
>Well I think its pretty evident considering MOST solos always say don’t shoot / friendly
>solos
Ah okay youre a no friend loser. Duos and Trios are pure PvP. And there is still PvP in solos. From MY no proof baseless eye test, seems like to me the majority of the playerbase is PvP. More like 95%.

>>725384396
Arc is all flash and no substance, if you're easily amused by graphics and novelty key jingling then you can probably get some enjoyment out of it, else just skip it

>>725384478
I'm not a PvPer at all and the whole appeal of the social interactions is figuring if someone is gonna kill you or not, it's very fun to note body language and infer intent, if you hard-split players into forced playstyle modes or karma systems you'll completely remove that dynamic.

>>725377846
I do find the hornet and wasp some fun to deal with.
Especially with how shooting their thrusters throws off your aim in a procedural and unpredictable way.
Creates some nice bits of tension and dynamism to bringing them down everytime imo.
Unlike mag dumping into headshot stunned bots out in open spaces in Marathon
Plus using the Rockeeter to your advantage on an extraction against an enemy Raider looking to camp or ambush you is always a good bit of fun.

>>725377846
wdym. Leaper is the easiest to cheese. Not really interesting

>>725384673
Okay and that's a minority opinion which can be proven by the carebear blobs people are starting to form.

>>725384673
yes you are pvper, you are just in denial about it

>>725384673
This guy gets it. A lot of the fun is NOT KNOWING whether or not the guy wants to take your shit. Always keeping an eye on them. People suggesting some sort of visible karma system for Pkers are dumb.

>>725384818
How can it be a minority opinion when people are exclusively playing that only system the game has? You can't play any other way.

>>725377986
Matchmaking usually helps to prevent this as your gear value is what weighs more heavily in matching you up with others.
Plus the actual character levelups are not going to let you dominate noobs as none them affect your actual damage, health, and shields.
Its moreso about making it easier to be consistent and take more out of raids.

>>725384941
People do things all the time despite having to deal with undesirable shit. It's called having a nuanced opinion because most adults understand perfection doesn't exist so you often play things despite things, many video games have awful mechanics people hate and yet still play the game.

>>725384906
>muh social deduction
theater kids are even worse than pvp fags

>>725385085
I'm sure those 90% positive reviews are actually secretly hating the game and they all share your opinion instead.

>>725385162
reviews mean nothing lmao once it's hit normie bandwagon mode, all you have to do is hit critical mass of hype and it's completely separate from actual quality

>>725384906
It's pretty low IQ and ironically a casual game mechanic addition.

>>725384941
Because there is no choice? Give playerbase a choice to not play pvpve and you will see how many actually want to play it.

>>725351795
>game of the decade

>>725382704
It's numbers will slow down and begin to decline at some point, but it's only gained more players since release because people aren't a bunch of contrarian dipshits like most of you here are

>>725385259
So reviews mean nothing a growing playerbase means nothing everyone pvping except for 50% of the time in solos mean nothing all that matters is your retard opinion.

my stash is always too full

>>725385398
Yes reviews mean nothing once a game has hit the reverse bombing stage which becomes obvious when the reviews start looking like Reddit comments farming karma. And you're hostile because you know I'm right. But nice case in point for appeal of popularity.

>>725384906
I'd rather have an icon saying he's a scumbag so I can blast him right away and be on my merry way

>>725385545
Solipsism is a clear sign of low IQ.

>>725385545
>And you're hostile because you know I'm right.
I am hostile to retards that shout stupid opinions. Not because you're right. It'd be like some retard that thinks vaccines cause autism or they believe in bigfoot. You yell at them to shut their stupid ass up.

>>725385383
As they say there's a sucker born every minute, many people haven't yet learned that buying things that are popular often means wasting money, FOMO is really the worse reason to buy a game, many of these suckers don't even know they're playing an extraction shooter that has some of the worst sand castle stomping PVP sweats imaginable.

instead of having an exclusively pve mode, they should have a rotating event like the harvester/storm/lush blooms that makes bots extra angry and disables damage to raiders

>>725385545
You're the idiot trying to argue from popularity to begin with by straight up lying about 5% of players engaging in PvP and other arguments like that pulled straight from your retarded ass, there's literally nothing supporting anything you're saying.

>>725385512
sell what you don't immediately need and buy more room

>>725385512
Sell your Arc Alloy.

>>725385820
Give your estimate of how many people actively engage in PVP in this game. As in going out of their way to start a fight with a player, at least pretend you're arguing from good faith.

The visceral autistic rage of /v/ over this game proves that it's good. The fact that people can't stop shitting on it here, because they have no friends to play with and punch holes in their walls when they die, should tell you all you need to know about ARC Raiders.

Cope harder.

>objective to damage raiders with heavy ammo
>"Don't shoot!"

>>725384442
they paid steam for 400k bots
No one is playing this shit

BF6 > Arc tranny simulator

>>725385831
but what if the next quest I get is for the things I'm selling? or I need for a workbench upgrade?

>>725385893
Aggression highly varies based on my own behavior so there's no definite number at any point, because unlike a retard that lacks theory of mind I understand that other people also rely on the same mechanics I do and no one can be boxed into some "pvp/e only" stereotype.

>>725386108
You open wiki or youtube for quest guides.

>>725386151
Coward, give a number. I won't autistically hold you to it because I'm an adult trying to have a real conversation and not a sweat trying to PVP a conversation.

>>725386108
Then go extract it

>>725386210
>>725386317
10/10 GAME DESIGN, META KNOWLEDGE OR WASTE MORE TIME

>>725385893
nta but it's genuinely less than 10% in solos, there is basically no reason to, you get barely any xp, they are usually in a free kit and most of them don't even shoot back
On blue gate/spaceport events it's much more common but pretty much everyone I have encountered was chill

>>725386238
It's 100% or nearly 100% because literally everyone will "engage in pvp" and you obviously did so too at some point based on circumstances, what a retarded question.

>>725385984
Just give them a good ol shield pop and be on your way.

>>725385751
>people haven't yet learned that buying things that are popular often means wasting money

I know you think now that you're 20 years-old, you can start giving people life advice. But let me tell you, you are always wasting money. Every day of your life. And if you aren't, you're probably an insufferable person. Should you needlessly throw around money? No. But don't worry about 30-40 dollars, I promise it will be okay to just enjoy something for a week or a month of your life. That is more valuable than a few bucks. Hell, get that nice car you like in your 30s too. So what if it puts your retirement back a year or two. You're young, enjoy things while you have the time and energy.

>>725386378
Thank you for proving my point and now have fun having an autistic retard telling you why PVP is actually great

>>725386151
I never engage in pvp, would rather let pk psycho kill me and move on to another lobby.

>>725386428
>. Should you needlessly throw around money? No. But don't worry about 30-40 dollars
Guess how I know you have credit card debt. There's not a single rich person that will advise someone to spend their money no matter how little recklessly. But lots of larping poors living on credit cards who do.

>>725386378
It depends a lot on what you're doing, if you're rushing some high value loot room then you'll always have competition against like-minded folk, in contrast everyone was happily farming apricots while I was getting them for scrappy which is funny.

>Even LVNDMARK admitted Arc Raiders was bad news for Tarkov
Nikita sissies....

>>725386538
I have 0 credit card debt. Mine and the wife's cars are paid off. Just a mortgage now. I'm not rich by any means, and yes I've had credit card debt in the past. But I do pretty well these days. You don't have to listen to me, but I'm telling you that $30 for a game won't matter in the long haul.

>>725385984
I hope the trials tomorrow has a "damage to raiders" task. PLEASE.

>>725351748 (OP)
I'd play it if it was free.

>>725386614
the only bad news for tarkov is that niggita is in charge

>>725386689
Nope don't believe you, you already advised recklessly spending money.

>>725386614
it's completely different, I don't see many tarkov diehards switching to arc raiders just because it's a little more streamlined and casual, someone like lvndmark would breeze through all of this game's content in a day or two

>>725386614
>runs well
>looks good
>super casual friendly
Yeah but people already running around like a battle royale, but Trios was entirely PVP no other shit going on from the start

>>725386787
>someone like lvndmark would breeze through all of this game's content in a day or two
People like him and Shroud basically did and theyre still playing it non-stop. Im sure they will stop soon and check out Tarkov but I bet they will be back at the end of November when the new map with humanoid robots releases.

>>725386787
outside of the obvious griefing protentional

>>725386740
That's fine. I'm sure you listen to finance bros on YouTube that chirp nonstop about how you have to save every single cent that you earn now, and if you don't it's so fucking over, bro. Gotta keep some liquid money for investments, bro. Bro he doesn't even have dry powder, bro. (You'll grow out of it.)

>>725386428
>tricking yourself into thinking you enjoy something you don't enjoy
I know you think now that you've graduated middle school, you can start giving people life advice. But let me tell you, one day you will figure out what you actually enjoy.

>>725386614
Competition is a made up meme by boomer CEOs that doesn't actually happen, similar games doing similar things are actually synergistic, Steam's recommendation engine highly relies on "similar to what you played" for example because when people like something they'll look for more of that thing, and Tarkov is inevitably going to get a boost thanks to the buzz from Arc.
Numbers-wise Tarkov isn't close to Arc anyway, the only way they can damage each other is if the devs develop an inferiority complex and clumsily copy mechanics and alienate existing players. It happened to TF2 with the matchmaking trash for example.

>>725386946
Don't have to listen to finance bros to know that even $5000 saved every year not buying shit you don't need is better than recklessly spending it because some marketer on 4chan said you're poor if you don't lmao. Have fun with your game bro!

>>725386893
but conversely this game has a lot of ways to mitigate griefing, which makes it less satisfying for the griefer (me)

>>725351748 (OP)
nortubel slop

>>725387120
If you can kill someone without their consent and make them upset that's all you need for griefing. Unless the game makes you unable to queue again after killing someone, there is no downside.

>>725386872
because as a streamer its giving insane views compared to Tarkov grind #235235

I think they'll play through December, start the wipe in January and be bored after a week because they are content-capped again

>>725387112
that would be 5 $80 games per month

>>725387313
>the only discretionary thing I buy is video games

>>725387112
I never said you were poor. I said you were young. You said I was poor, which is fine. Again, I'm not rich. I think most people would say that I am, but I'm not. I'm just telling you that you'll grow out of this phase of thinking $30 is significant when you start making more money and get older.

>>725387427
I'm obviously not young because only young people would say to spend $50 on something who cares. Either that or an out of touch trust fund baby who has daddy's wallet as a safety net. But as I said, there is not a single self-made rich person that will advise to spend $50 recklessly such as buying a video game that they don't like because of FOMO.

>>725387523
Here let me make it more clear: if you have to spend money to feel happy you're fucked emotionally.

>>725386383
Its not fun though. I don’t want to play pvp in this game. It feels bad when I’m asked to and it feels bad when uts forced on me.
I quit because if this. I don’t want to play your pvp bullshit.

>>725385893
Literally no one pvps
This is why pvp servers die in mmos and in those you didnt lose any progress in pvp so why the fuck would anyone pvp to lose progresses other than they are aimbotting or just being a cunt for the funnies?

>>725387376
I spend way more than $5k a year on drugs

>>725387629
pvp is most of the content in extraction shooters

>>725387523
So you hate trust fund babies, but you take their advice when they lecture you about being fiscally-responsible? You're more naive than I thought. That's alright. I can't accellerate personal growth for you, it's something you'll (hopefully) gain when you have a family and get a real job.

threadly reminder that even tarkov has a pve mode

>>725387904
Oh yeah? Then why does everyone whine like a fucking bitch when you shoot them? No one wants to pvp

CANT STOP ADDICTED TO THE LOOT BINS

>>725388241
it does.
But those enemies are nowhere near as fun to shoot at and takedown as the ARC are.

>>725388241
Nikita is the dumbest subhuman retards in the entire world and even after having it and adding PvE after years of saying they never would, the game is still fundamentally dogshit because you NEED to open up a wiki and an external map app and follow instructions just to do basic beginner quests. literally how would ANYONE find even the fucking pocket watch on customs without prior knowledge
it is an objective failure in game design in almost all ways. if not for gun autism there would be 0 people playing it

>'tuber outed my loot run
it's so over....

>>725388442
holy crap

>>725388607
I think they need to redo all quest text, and add a map, but even without a map just clearer text would help a significant amount. Also the fact that the mechanical key isn't a quest item, so people can take it and troll others, is fucking dumb. Same as the Unknown Key for the Skier quest. Serves ONE purpose, a quest, and its not a quest item. Arc lets quest items be real items aka they can go in your ass, which would help alot in Tarkov too.

>>725351795
>game of the decade
play more games

>>725388607
and if you complain about those things people just tell you it's hardcore and that you should git gud
it's fucking retarded how the game has no useable in-game map, though it was funny killing someone with the default starter kit and a factory map in their backpack

>>725388442
stop the count!

My friend is trying to get me to try this shit, but 40 dollars is not attractive. Also if it's just swamped by Chinamen and Russian powertrippers I probably won't get much joy out of it either.
I kind of liked The Hunt Showdown for a short while though, eventually it just came down to me being too paranoid to ever use something that wasn't a free loadout though. And I actually didn't die too much.

>>725388774
>>725388902
500,000 by din din time

>>725388907
playing this with 1 friend is just an objectively worse experience than playing it solo, unfortunately, but it's pretty fun solo and trio

>>725388907
If he is your real friend he would have gifted it to you, don't ever get scammed into buying games that somebody else want to play with you if you are not interested in it in the first place.

>spawned near water treatment
>killed a reaper with some random
>got some items
>want to extract at elevator
>game spawns ARCs near me
>take care of them
>take some damage
>elevator is up
>head towards it
>some faggot two shots me and takes all my shit
I swear there needs to be a bounty system. Shit like this boils my fucking blood. I can take dying to ARC but not this bullshit. There needs to be a penalty for fucking up someone's raid like this. Give me the opportunity to hunt these fuckers DOWN

>>725388454
arc are dumb bullet sponges how do people think that is fun? i feel like that is just another thing shills are paid to say without actually having any proof to back it up.

I shot tons of arcs, it was never even a little fun because they just soak up magazine after magazine. They never react, they don't try to avoid getting hit, nothing. They are braindead enemies that just soak up damage.
wooooooow so fun
braindead drones and spiders waaaow

>>725351748 (OP)
Nothing you can do about it, it's garbage just like the finals and will be shilled heavily for the next 3 to 4 months until the money dries out, just like the finals.

>>725389767
I could understand complaining about bastions but fucking drones? Are you braindead? The thrusters take like 2 hits at best. Stop shooting the hornet's armor plates.

>>725389308
git gud lmao

>>725389767
Grrr that slut needs correction by whipping out my veiny sweaty cock and rubbing it all over his face.
When I am done with this whore her Output Only sockets will all be I/O.

>>725384442
I love steamcharts fags. They keep using it to push their anti-woke games as successes, but now have to turn around and live with games they hate doing really well like Arc Raiders.

>>725390360
>his face
>her Output
couldn't even gay shitpost about wanting to fuck an iPad on a shelf properly

STOP THE COUNT

>>725390578
Helldivers 2 also had 400k players and now it doesn't. I don't know why it matters what the player count is.

>>725351795
>sociopathic zoomer playground
>best game of the decade
lmao

>>725390578
I just know you're itching to endlessly post steam chart threads about the game being "dead" when the player count inevitably goes down.

>>725390824
Sorry I got too riled up by hornyess.
Point is, slut gets cock.

so I guess nobody know what the fuck the bunker is

>>725390851
Which is better Helldivers 2 or Arc Raiders

>>725390851
Because it funds updates and future projects for the studio? Lmao what kind of education are they feeding kids these days.

>>725391163
Helldivers 2 because its worked out a lot of the kinks, and you wont get griefed by 17 year olds after investing 20 minutes into a run.

>>725391359
They aren't even the same kind of game. Why are people comparing them? Because you can slide and roll in third person?

>>725391495
Actually Helldivers is closer to Arc than Arc is to Tarkov, I bet they share a very similar PVE playerbase.

>>725391554
Thats like saying Tarkov shares a playerbase with Counter Strike because its first person PvP and only one life a match.

>>725391163
They're fundamentally different games and it's no use comparing them, the gameplay in HD2 boils down to walking towards a waypoint and holding M1 while random epic explosions and particles play out after triggering the baked waypoint event, there's no pressure to do well or deal with novel situations.

>>725391724
No it's not because Counter Strike is team death match game, please apply yourself.

Deep Rock Galactic is making such a huge mistake by not having a PvP mode its gonna be dead in 2 weeks

>>725391554
So is that where all the PvE downies come from? Explains a lot.

>>725351748 (OP)
It's literally going to be GOTY, cope and seethe

>>725391163
Helldivers 2 is the best game in recent history

>>725391921
Yeah, which is 90% of the player count you like to post from the chart.

>>725391927
GOTY awards are heavily biased towards oscarbait cinematic narrative trash, who the fuck gives a shit about game awards? ARC is probably going to lose sound design awards to whatever random game had more expensive voice actors because the judge panels are nothing but nepo baby rackets.

>>725352169
>>725352209
helldivers is an unfixable garbage fire at the moment
i don't know why people think comparing it to anything is a positive when arrowhead has run that game into the absolute fucking gutter with their incompetence

>>725354715
>I watched a streamer for 3 hours

>>725392429
>no you can't watch people throw up in the restaurant you have to order

>>725351748 (OP)
so how much of it is a walking simulator? streamers I've watched are walking with nothing happening most of the time

>>725391981
>escape from shithole to a better country
>kick and scream about the first world country not being like his hellhole he ran away from
why are third worlders like this? they don't call that game "hell" for nothing

>>725392393
They might be retarded but fighting bugs/bots/aliens is infinitely more fun that getting shot in the back by some nigger who thinks its funny to waste your time, fuck off.

>>725390952
ESL saar...

>>725392581
go back to your shithole then

>>725392581
> fuck off.
i'm not defending either game, it's just weird to see people still praise helldivers in its current state
i'm assuming most of it comes from people who played it a year ago when the game was still in a relatively stable condition

>>725392540
Its a chill comfy exploration/looting game with scary robots, the fun comes from exploring this super detailed and intricate world for 20 or so minutes at a time to then losing all your progress within 10 seconds because you got shot in the back.

>>725392532
understand goyim, I mean friend, you HAVE to shell out $40 and play just above the refund window PLEASE

>>725392540
you can easily go entire matches without seeing a single soul, but that usually means you're just wasting time as people are focusing on more contested objectives

prayer regeneration potions made inferno much easier. you no longer need to be constantly flicking to conserve pp and can camp prayers the entire time now

>>725357957
>Blah blah nigger blah blah stupid blah blah I'm transvestite freak show blah blah
Back to Xitter with you

>>725392429
is that

>>725378379
i've seen Doc cruise through all the quests in a week.
They better strike while the iron is hot if they don't want it to phase out.
Time to grind, devs.

>>725392916
embark has updated the finals every single week since it released, in arc the entire thing is designed around seasonal treadmills but I'm confused about how quests will fit in since they supposedly reset after each wipe and there's no fucking way I'll ever want to do them again

By Hashem shut this count down!

>>725361242
You're not as cool as you think you are.

>>725393096
They are adding quests this month, and next month. I'd expect like 10-15 new quests a month which is like 5 hours max of playtime.

>>725393670
holy pog i love collecting boar assholes for pittances
gaming is saved!

>>725393670
Id be interested in that content if it was pve only. Why am I being given “quests” when niggers are just killing people for the thrill of it? This entire gameplay loop is at odds with itself.

>>725394045
no one cares helltroon go shit up another thread

>>725394110
seems like the real way to enjoy this game is free loadouts and hunting for sport like it's a PVP deathmatch

>>725394110
No go fuck yourself as long as you sociopaths enjoy harassing people out of the game, I’ll enjoy calling for pve-only.
Eat shit nigger.

>>725394290
yeah you figured it out, now go shit up another thread

>>725394362
why are you so mad? if you ignore the bad quest system, seems like the best way to play is to ruin other people's games, infinite entertainment and there's no punishment

>>725394362
If that’s the point of the game then why is it centered about the pve

>>725394490
honest answer, it's hit or miss playing like that. just as often you'll shoot down a person with their own shit free loadout and a bunch of items you don't need
it's fine sometimes but won't help with progression very often

>>725394490
Quests are trash because they're low effort MMO-style "go there and use this nondescript prompt" and fundamentally cannot have interesting effects going on as that would affect the match for others, this has nothing to with PVP or PVE.

>>725394774
Again you're missing the entire point, who fucking cares about the loot, it's about Call of the Hunt: Most Dangerous Game and making people mad. It's like playing League of Legends and purposely throwing games except there's no ban system. Just queue in and kill people, don't even loot them, mute the player voices too. Goal is to kill as many people as possible per match.

>>725394887
you unlock cosmetics from the missions
that's like saying "who cares about leveling up in CoD my gun already kills people fine"
and that's true, but it's fun to unlock skins and shit. that's what people grind for in multiplayer games

is this like valorant where the only people who really like it are idiot americans?

>>725394970
Who cares about the cosmetics, man you zoomers are so lost with contrived unlocking systems. It's about taking scalps, I don't need achivements buckaroo. And if there's nothing stopping me from playing like this you've sold me a copy.

>camper predators crying and wibbling when people want them gone
every fucking time
just watched this thread's discourse unfold 1:1 with the recent Dune game where everyone called out gankers for being the cringe locusts they are

>>725395051
the one thing that's missing from this game that makes scalp collecting fun in other extraction shooters is some kind of dog tag. I don't really care about kills as much if I'm not amassing a collection of dead player names
but no, there's nothing stopping you from fully chasing PVP and ignoring the other stuff. it's good to at least upgrade some of the crafting benches so you can get better shields and shit though

>>725395226
I post on 4chan for free with cosmetics and achievements, why would you think I need more incentive than knowing I blew up some carebear like a pinata"

>>725395020
>He says as he uses an American media platfrom on an operating system (Windows, Android, IOS, MacOS, Linux) designed by Americans using a(n) TN/LCD/IPS invented by Americans using a(n) Apple Bionic/Intel Core/AMD Ryzen/Qualcomm Snapdragon processor invented by Americans, using a browser engine (Chromium, Gecko, Safari) developed by Americans.
Eurocucks get mogged in every way by Americans and it's all they can compare themselves to, they lost to a 300 year old country and their cope is somehow that Americans are stupid or 'the pub down my street is older than your country m8'

Kek

What happened to the Tarkov general?

>>725351748 (OP)
more like BAG raiders amirite

once you get past mt. stupid and learn the good containers you'll realize how easy it is to get showered with blue and purple loot, losing stuff literally doesn't matter, the focus of the game is in the meta progression stuff

>>725395401
americans are nigger slaves

>>725351748 (OP)
So will I like this game if I got immediately filtered by Tarkov?

>>725395484
Doesn't change the fact I fucking HATE the feeling of losing shit I earned and built to cheap bullshit i shouldn't be punished for. It’s an inherently shitty feeling, and if I’m going to waste my time playing a video game, thats not the feeling I’m after.

>>725396060
Nope.

>>725396078
That's why you got to frame it upside down and treat it like a game where the NPCs are fighting robots and the goal is to loot them without getting caught.

>>725396060
Immediately? No
Will you? Yes

You CANNOT be one-shot in Arc outside of multiple mines aka not one thing. In Tarkov you can just die, shit happens one tap in the face or by a big enough bullet. This on its own is a ball buster. Add in
>you can break limbs, making your arms shake when you aim or making you unable to sprint. If you painkiller you can move normal speed, but if you sprint with broken limbs you take some damage each step.
The entire healing system is non-casual friendly

Quest text is not helpful, and there is currently no INGAME maps worth a damn. You CANNOT reasonably progress in Tarkov without using the wiki.
Beyond that? Fun ass game, the weapon autism is very fun to get into and the loot feels way more meaningful.

>>725396169
>>725396078
just do the opposite of playing like a pussy
carpet bomb grenades into bushes around perilous places, pre-fire every corner, shoot anything and anyone with two legs until you're out of the fuckmyass zone

extraction campers are the biggest cowards you'll ever meet because they're the ones so afraid of losing that they bring nothing to depart with - a little aggression sends them into a panic nearly every time
just play like a fucking psychopath and give everyone what they deserve

>>725396480
The goal is to make the PVP so miserable they are forced to add PVE. Seems like a very easy exploit and they banked too hard on cosmetics keeping people in line.

the extract camping in this game is comical now that i think about it, they didn't even try to prevent it
hunt showdown, escape from tarkov, arena breakout infinite, you have some cover at your extract points (i think tarkov does anyway, i havent actually played it), in this game it's just completely open, retarded.

>>725396767
Probably because PVP was tacked on after the designed the maps.

>>725396767
I just got my extract 100 times achievement last night and I have never once seen an extract camper. I really don't know what people are talking about.

is everyone assuming if you fight near an extract it means there was a camper? the extracts are the funnel points where people are inevitably going to meet

>>725396767
why do you think the elevator announces to everyone around it that it has been called and it takes a full minute to arrive you retard? they WANT pvp engagements

>>725396883
>is everyone assuming if you fight near an extract it means there was a camper?
yes

>>725396767
Tarkov has extracts generally at the edge of maps, and yeah there is usually cover and it takes <10 seconds to extract. There is 4 extracts in Arc, ignoring raider hatches, and they slowly go away over time, and they make a shit ton of noise AND take 40 seconds plus typing on a computer.
>>725396883
Its all anecdotal anyways. I don't see extract campers in Tarkov much but you see people talk about it alot too. I will say the trigger mine camping seems to happen enough that people talk about it.

The new shit is throwing stuff INSIDE the extracts, so when people call it up the mines are still inside and they will walk inside not expecting shit.

>>725351748 (OP)
The shilling for this is so obvious are you people are still falling for it, baka

>>725396974
>why do you think the elevator announces to everyone around it that it has been called and it takes a full minute to arrive you retard? they WANT pvp engagements
hunt showdown has extracts make a lot of noise when players are nearby, takes 30 seconds and has cover at extracts

hunt showdown isn't stupid enough to require you to lock into an animation to activate the extracts giving anyone camping would have easy access to hit you

>>725351748 (OP)
peak gem

>>725397253
good thing this isn't some dead trash and the devs have a far better idea of what they wanted to make, including the obvious intent of adding risk and pvp encounters to extracts

kosfags start to make me hate this game

>>725398132
>song and dance with some retard to 'establish peace'
>get shot anyway as soon as it's convenient for them
blame developers for adding the ability to shoot other players without consequence
gankers and killers should be marked and penalized in some way to warrant the extremely risk-free reward of just harvesting the cattle who actually play the game

>>725398132
KOS is the spice melange, you need them to make the normal encounters feel meaningful and vice versa. When 90% of my playtime is carebears, it makes the 10% PVP more interesting. When its only KOS in Tarkov for like 95%, the 5% is special.

>>725398936
this

>>725398936
except all my games are now tarkov level kos

>>725399178
It still varies but just unlucky. Ill do a run to kill bosses for XP, then get shot in the back and the match after under the same circumstances someone doesn't shoot.
Hell the best one today was going in with just 5 blaze grenades to throw at bosses for XP, no weapon, augment or shield, and some dude shot me in the back for no reason and I ended up killing him with melee+robots.

>>725399502
100% of my games have KOS because it's me.

>>725396480
That doesn't sound fun to me, so I will just stop playing instead.

>>725399502
See >>725399858

>>725398879
>use AI to analyze every situation to determine who shot first and with/without cause
>prioritize matchmaking player killers together

I'm turning off cross-play to see if that cuts down on faggotry.

just lost it all, nuke hit while I was climbing in the raider hatch

>>725402171
It doesnt hit right on 0:00 right? I thought Id go down instantly but the two times I held out that far I was just fine and didnt want to risk the trains to stop running.

I have been using 4chan for literal decades at this point and I still don't understand.

>>725402368
while there is an elevator called/up you wont die

>>725402513
Interesting. And I remember the extract timer being shortened to 30 seconds when I got on. Good to note. It seems like a gauranteed safe extract if you DONT use a raider hatch lol. Devs fucked over hatches specifically.

>ZERO porn anywhere of the game
how??

not even a schizo drawing drones fucking? NOTHING????

So, is this game any good? I see my friends playing it, but they're into extraction shooter genre, they played like a thousand hours of The Hunt. And I'm not.
I saw some videos and the GRAFIX sure look pretty. And there is at least some art direction, which is rare to see in modern games. But I don't see what exactly makes this game so popular. It's made by some no-name devs.

>>725403552
It's made by the same developer as the Finals and they are former DICE devs.

>>725403552
I never played an extractor before and I'm having a blast. Closest parallel are probably battle royales but permaloot makes it much more adrenaline-inducing and high stakes. It's hard to tell what's really meant to happen by just watching it because there's no obvious objective, it's up to the player to decide and plan what they want and need, such as specific items or quests.
Actually I did play Dark & Darker a bit but that was monumental dogshit.

i'm afraid to recycle anything since i found out shit like "damaged piece of shit heatsink (recyclable)" is needed for upgrading crafting tables

>>725403552
my friends convinced me to get it even though i've never played an extraction shooter before and dont like pvp and i'm having way more fun than i expected even when i'm playing solo
with Scrappy the rooster and the free loadout you can always feel like you gained something no matter how badly you do as long as you're willing to keep coming back

>>725351890
>Division without fat health bars
You're trying to say that this is a bad thing?

>>725353987
You can kill a Bombardier/Bastion with 3-4 Wolfpacks.
Otherwise you're in for a bad time if solo
Good hunting.

>>725403552
Scrappy plus weird Solo queue social ecosystem of 5:1 nonhostile/friendly to hostile encounters makes the game pretty fun when you don't want to hop into the 3v3s where its shoot on sight.

>>725403552
for me the main draw has been polished game + people actually using VOIP, both being rare things these days

>trying to do quests in dam admin building
>hear someone in room next to me
>ask: "hey do you know where the medical room is for the quest?"
>he drops a dog collar
how do I respond without sounding mad?

>>725405350
>"nuzzles you"

>>725385753
That's probably what they're gonna do with the community events in the roadmap

>>725404115
Use this to keep track of important items
https://arctracker.io/needed-items

they should add a "soft teamup" mechanic where you can extend a hand and if they shake it they're in your team, like playing squads, but they can leave it

>>725405993
Yeah a seamless party feature for solos is a no brainer

>>725405993
>>725406064
Nah, uneasy alliances is how it should stay. Getting the ability to see your "friend" through walls like a real squadmate plus no friendly fire on guns would be too strong vs people who play actually solo. If you forget what he looks like 30 meters out and "some guy" turns a corner, shit happens you killed your ally.

>>725405350
you drop a catbed

>>725406209
I'm sure they can figure something out if they keep it super basic. Like being able to ping stuff for people would already help a lot

>complete 2 quests on a raid
>enough resources to upgrade gunsmith
>fruit for scrappy
>survive 2 pvp encounters
>die to a wasp

>>725406890
you can already toggle your pings to be proximity based

>>725406890
Hold your ping button, press K to swap to EVERYONE. Your pings, any of them like on the map or items on the ground, are now said by your actual character

>>725407045
Even map pings? Huh

>>725407112
Damn nice now I can stop giving people directions like a retard thx

>>725406970
>stung by a wauce
I'm so sorry bro

>>725406970
and in 30 hours you are aggroing wasps on purpose with a hairpin, and collect like a dozen of the drivers in a pile, and one-shot bosses with them

>>725405350
>how do I respond without sounding mad?

Yeah this game is best played as shoot on sight PVP ideally hunting people. It is fun but I think the game is way more PVP than PVE.

alright lets see what this queen shit is all about

>>725409298
good luck friend

>>725396883
>100 times
>never once seen an extract camper
That is actually insane because in 10 hours of playing I have seen one in every single match. I avoid it by exiting after everyone else, but in every single match I hear the elevator alarm from a distance and then see flares pop up from the elevator shortly after.
>>725396974
I think the devs are just shit and have no idea what they are doing
>>725397858
okay you're just retarded

>>725409298
Gaming.

>>725409298
I got to the shooty yellow parts bit of the harvester but when I had to leave for the fire bit there was a rocketeer right in front of me and basically I lost it all without any usage