Thread 725370272

How would you save Halo?

>>725370272 (OP)
It's as dead as Xbox itself

You can't, that window of opportunity is over, it already died years ago. The only thing that changed is now they will stop jumping on the dead horse's corpse and selling whatever necrotic fluid gushes out.

>>725370272 (OP)
everyone says all the important things in the story happen in the books these days so probably make a modular entry style game that converts old book content into cool game content

Step 1: Take it away from 343
Step 2: Cancel the shit television show if it hasn't been already
Step 3: Cancel the shit remake in progress
Step 4: Announce that all 343 games and the show are not canon
Step 5: Do nothing

>>725370272 (OP)
Firing everyone that works at "halo studios" would be the first step. After that you'd have to find a team that can actually handle making a halo game, but I have no clue where you'd find it. Bungie is as shit as 343 these days

>>725370272 (OP)
you can't

>>725370272 (OP)
Make an anthology based around Spartan II-III operations, and use a time machine so it can make a holiday 2012 release. While I'm at it, wipe out every potential 343 employee terminator style

>>725370272 (OP)
Have Master Chief troon out

>>725370272 (OP)
I wouldn't. They should have stopped with the Master Chief Collection.

>>725370272 (OP)
>eurog*mer

>>725370272 (OP)
Kill the Master Chief. Kill Cortana. They have destroyed two halos by now and irreparably damaged another. I say enough is enough.

>>725371006
/thread

>>725370272 (OP)
Hey guys did you know spartans were gay?

>>725370272 (OP)
let it rest

>>725370272 (OP)
Just stop doing more of it.
Bury the franchise.

>>725370272 (OP)
I can save it.
Make cortana into a terminator and make her save mustard chaf

>>725370272 (OP)
It was not a lightning in a bottle. No point in saving something propped up.

Wow they didn’t even re-render the clouds like red dead 2. How is Reddit going to even play this trash now?

>>725372763
HIRE THIS MAN

>>725370272 (OP)
Fire everyone at "Halo Studios" and license the IP out like Games Workshop does with Warhammer. Anyone can make something better than the shit we've been getting.

>>725370272 (OP)
Give the franchise to EA and put Cortana in a burka

>>725370272 (OP)
Sometimes it's better to just let things rest. If there has to be another Halo don't let 343i work on it and don't make it about John Halo. His story was done with 3.

>>725370272 (OP)
I would get the teams responsible for the map design, weapon balance, and movement in Halo 5 and get them to do it again.
then do what Apex Legends did and simply AstroTurf support for the game with streamers until new fans outnumber old ones and it becomes self sustaining.
the butthurt fanbase has no concept of what a good game is, so having a well balanced and responsive game like 5 again would make them furious.

Id get rid of the battlepass bullshit and do what Halo 5 did again. You earn credits by playing and can unlock armor randomly through Packs or introduce a sort of chart that lets you unlock armor along multiple paths. And if you pull an armor piece from a pack, you can branch off from that node on the path.
So if on Path A has 20 pieces of armor in a line, and you Lootbox yourself the 15th item, then you can spend your credits to buy Item 16 or go backwards to 14.
Halo 5 had the best customization by far and people were angry at it for no good reason. But this little change would give players more control. Also since people love micro transactions now, make the legendary armor purchasable for 7 dollars and give the player a ton of credits to buy free armor.

but the astroturfing is critical. at this point no matter what game they release they need to out drown out or literally drown the fanbase.

>fire all activists from studio
>hire straight white men
>add female spartan who is down bad for chief
>make cortana hot and jealous
>add biblically accurate halo angel

>>725373361
sounds like something in a chinese mmo lmao
touch grass

>>725370272 (OP)
Embrace the series Right-wing roots and stop being vague about it

>Let's work from the inside out
IMO, Halo's strength has always been its campaign, especially when it's taking place on a Halo/the Ark or whatever.
Also, another one of its core strengths is replayability through dynamism. Even if you exclude skulls and difficulty variances, playing the same level in Halo multiple times rarely yields a similar outcome.
>Let's set the backdrop
The new game is a reboot of Halo 4, coyly called Halo: Forerunner. It's set 30 years after the events of Halo 3 on a newly discovered, nascent Halo, which was made AFTER the Flood were defeated. The game's main narrative hook is discovering how and why this Halo was constructed.
The player is in Master Chief's boots. There's no Cortana rampancy crisis bullshit; you just wakeup drifting toward a new Halo which Cortana has discovered.
>You're gonna wanna see this
she says, as you wake up from cryo sleep.
Inbound to the Halo, the player is greeted by an even older Ron Perlman who introduces the player to Johnson's sexy mulatto daughter, and Keyes's chad nephew. Yes, this part is ripped wholesale from Half-Life 2.
The player's landing is interrupted by unknown belligerents, who are thereby IDed as human colonists. The stage is thus set for a game with multiple factions - cue crashlanding.
>Gameplay loop
The game adopts a soft "roguelike" structure, closer to Majora's Mask. The player has 7 in-game days to figure out what the hell is going on before the Halo is fired. On the ring world, they can come into contact with various pioneering factions like:
>Aforementioned colonists
>UNSC peacekeepers
>Rogue ONI troopers
>Covenant separatists (could just be "Banished")
>Arbiter loyalists (friendly)
>Pacifist Prophets trying to uncover secret of "Great Journey"
>Familiar yellow spores...
To accommodate a more open structure, the player gains abilities like it's Metroid. Some light puzzles and obstacle courses should be added on which to flex these abilities. No ability should wreck the 30 seconds of fun

>>725374025
>The game adopts a soft "roguelike" structure
Sounded cool until this

>>725374025
Tumblr fanfiction-tier writing

I loved the multiplayer of Infinite; it still felt pretty solid and like a Halo game. The only problem these days is that kids don’t want shooters that feel like Halo. They want movement slop with a cracked TTK of .5 milliseconds. Also, the proliferation of controller based cheated like Cronus and Xim (Zen? Zin? Whatever it’s called) really hit Halo worse than other shooters. With the TTK in Halo being so high, straffing and headshots are everything. If you have a cheat that lets you automatically get headshots (which is easy in Halo because of the slower movement), then it really trivializes even trying.

I would love Halo to make a come back with its movement and gameplay, bringing back focus to power weapons and power ups, but I just don’t think kids like that. It’s too cerebral. They’d rather run and gun to the win instead of controlling a map and being aware of their surroundings.

>>725374025
>CONTINUED
Several existing series motifs can be harnessed to give this open world texture. We'll call these:
>Libraries
Underground, self-contained areas very similar to Breath of the Wild's Temples. These will contain an incremental power-up and some secret about the history of Halos at the end, and are preceded by an obstacle course/puzzle.
>Micro Halos
These are atop mountains, and can be glimpsed dotting the horizon from many points on the map. They're rings that contain abstract recordings of seminal events/battles on previous Halos, which they render in hologram when activated. The player must then fight their way around the inside of a Micro Halo, which have their own microgravity environment. At the end of one of these, the player receives a combat buff.
>Fuck this openworld bullshit cuz
Of course; the open world isn't the main event. Instead, the open world is framed as a place to explore in the aftermath of missions, and depending on how a mission has been completed, its contents will vary.
>What then?
The game is broken up into missions that take up some amount of daylight, and vary depending on the day on which they're started. Every mission is time-driven. Events will unfold with regularity (and some randomness) depending on when they're triggered. The player will be poised to make decisions over the course of a mission, which then affect how its finale plays out. Examples:
>Rescue the Warthog engineer or the Pelican Pilot?
>Escort the Mammoth while choosing which UNSC bases to defend while it's plodding forward
>Find yourself in a crumbling Forerunner temple, and like a scrambling Indiana Jones, choose which treasures to preserve on your way out
At the end of 7 days, the Elite Loyalists and the Rogue ONI faction will fight a bitter, bloody battle in this Halo's control room. Unless the player finds a way to disarm the ring, its launch is fated.
>Cortana's now a demi-god...

>>725371012
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bH0WYxJDwms

>>725374025
>There's no Cortana rampancy crisis bullshit

this would be funny
so many fans bitch and moan about lore consistency but dont acknowledge we've known about Cortana's looming death from the first book when bungie was still making the game.
i would enjoy watching increasing levels of hypocrisy.

>>725371006
>Take it away from 343
Who do you replace them with?
Anon, 343 was literally from the ground up to inherit Halo and they still fucked up
This isn't a problem where you can just throw money at because this is how we got here to begin with

>>725370272 (OP)
Bury it and keep it buried for at least a decade

>>725374821
>then it really trivializes even trying.

Halo 5 solved this by having maps with paths, cover, and thrusters to maneuver in and out of cover, in and out of combat. letting the player setting up kills where aiming wasnt a requirement, just good timing and map knowledge.
but you see that as movement slop so youre stuck slow and getting your head cracked in.

>>725370272 (OP)
Make everything after 3 non-canon, then kill the series

>>725370272 (OP)
You put it down.
It hurts to see Halo dragged through the mud like this.

>>725374875
>CONTINUED
Since Cortana was having brain sex with the Gravemind, she's learned some arcane science magic bullshit that can harness the energy of Halos to reverse time. For this motif, we'll borrow the cringe ending scene of Halo 4 and try to salvage its "liminality". While taking a breather in this space, the player can piece together some of the artifacts they've amassed. The secret that can eventually be pieced together herein is about The Great Journey, which will be revealed as a multi-step contingency for what should happen to sentient life given increasingly pessimistic circumstances. If you've seen Westworld, it's like the digital realm introduced in season 2.
At the player's leisure, the cycle can then be started anew.
>Ok you fuck, why the hell does this make sense for Halo?
What we're trying to do is tap into the mystery of the Forerunner, which is a huge part of what made Halo compelling back in the day. Gameplay-wise, we have open space that can be explored, but is more so context for missions than the gameplay unto itself. In this way, I think Infinite was on the right path. However, to mitigate Infinite's sense of emptiness, we've added some concrete POIs by borrowing inspiration from other open world games and giving them a distinct Halo flair.
>Roguelike structure?
Inspired entirely by campaign's replayability. Remember, the missions are still the focus. The goal would be to let players reach the game's main ending just by playing through the campaign twice. That's exactly what CE did, recontextualizing its first half with the Flood.
Likewise, even after the player reaches every secret ending, campaign should still be an appealing proposition. The goal is to make it dynamic to the point that replaying a mission is as novel as a multiplayer match/Firefight.

>>725370272 (OP)
The new halos are too talky. Make a new game with zero dialogue. People think the original games had this good plot but it is mostly one liners with little to actually back them up. Plus nobody actually cared they say they do but they don't it's boring and shitty.

Master Chief is doomguy with aliens. Make him kill aliens and do cool shit while saying nothing. We do not need to know about him "as a person" that's fucking gay.

It needs to be laid to rest. There's no point in keeping it going both from a gameplay and narrative perspective.
>The Covenant no longer have a purpose because the secrets of the Halo rings are out, the prophets are dead and high charity is destroyed. Continuing to use them is just retreading old ground as we've seen.
>The flood may still have potential to re-emerge but narratively speaking they're done, not worth rehashing
>Prometheans were a flop
>The banished are literal who's
>The UNSC aren't interesting enough on their own without an interesting threat.
Halo. It's finished.

>>725375042
It's so stupid that this is what people take issue with in 4. The lore problems are the storm covenant being elites and the Forerunner retcon. Both are relatively easy fixes, have storm covenant be banished from the start as there is plenty of merit to the mixed race tactics that the covenant use to justify another coalition enemy. Forerunners get retconned into being closer to ME3 Prothean lore where everyone they conquered gets relabeled to Forerunner, which justifies the covenant religion following suit of their gods.

>>725370272 (OP)
Because they have more projects in the works. Spending so much time in a single game was a very retarded idea in the first place.

>>725372224
Cortana is already dead, retard.

>>725370272 (OP)
Somehow, the Diadect has returned.
Master Chief fights him in a one on one duel, but knowing that Diadect is far more powerful than him, he bends the knee and becomes his apprentice to learn the ways of the Force.

>>725375161
Read that again anon. You don't replace them with anything, you just invalidate and decanonize everything they shat out, then leave it be. The franchise has been over since Reach, there's nowhere left to take it and there's no need to. If you really want to milk it in some way, just make a spiritual successor, like Halo was to Marathon.

>>725375161
>Step 5: Do nothing
you clearly missed this part

>>725376256
She's as dead as Atriox

>>725370272 (OP)
I wouldn't
It had its time in the sun and it's time for it to retire

>>725370272 (OP)
By saving Xbox from Microsoft

>Declare anything after reach non canon
>Make games based off some of the books or focusing on other characters
We dont need the chief for everything.

>>725370272 (OP)
Steal Obama's time machine, fired everyone a decade ago, hired 4 video game dev autists to spend a decade outlining the next 8 entries

>>725370272 (OP)
It's impossible to save it now. You'd have to go back and remake Halo 4 but actually good. First step would be completely gutting all the post-H3 lore. Just ctrl+A delete it all.
>no storm covenant or didact
>make the main enemy Brutes and a Prophet who escaped High Charity with a dozen ships before SHTF
>they're on Requiem looking for something that will supposedly salvage their fucked situation
When you show up, they're already on the planet and have been for a while
>no Cortana rampancy subplot shit just "yo the covenant are here, go fucking stop them"
>replace the Prometheans with Sentinels specialized for combat rather than just being glorified maintenance drones
>turns out the prophet and the brutes were trying to unseal some ancient forerunner tech
>you fail to stop them and it turns out this piece of forerunner tech is a fragment of mendicant bias that's even more insane than before
>the covenant connect it to Requiem's network and it takes control of everything
>recognizes Chief as Forerunner and since this fragment is still pissed, tries to kill him
>Cortana also recognizes that this is the same AI that was resisting her attempts to stop the keyship from launching back in Halo 2
>Mendicant Bias wants to activate the Forerunner ships inside of the Shield World and use them to escape, then plans on going to Earth and wiping out all the "remaining forerunners"
>only way to stop him is to set the Shield World's artificial sun to explode thus destroying the entire shield world, Mendicant, and all the forerunner ships inside
>Warthog Run to a forerunner ship to GTFO
>Cortana stays behind to make sure Mendicant can't stop the sun's detonation and Chief has to leave her once again
>so sad, he barely escapes
>makes it back to Earth in the forerunner ship and has a triumphant return
>takes off his armor for the last time because the fight is truly over
>no Halo 5 it's really over

>>725376313
>>725376353
Alright alright point taken

>>725372224
>t. Prophet of Truth

>>725376542
worst post itt

i hope people keep making firefight and campaign maps at least…

>>725377557
thanks, that was the joke
maybe you have data saving mode on

>>725377636
wtf is data saving mode

>>725377670
deez nuts

>>725370272 (OP)
It had good multiplayer unironically, with some elements of Titanfall. The problem is Halo is its such a basic ass franchise that is only appreciated by old ass xbawks fans for being one of the first casual console shooters with intuitive controls.

>>725370272 (OP)
Expand the capabilities of the FORGE editor to rival the Source engine.

>>725370620
CE Remastered will have new missions as prequels, maybe they're gonna convert Chiefs part of Reach the novel into gameplay?

Personally would have preferred the new missions to take place at the end of the game for First Strike to be adapted into game form myself.

>>725375286
Here's the thing, you just said Halo 5 is a Halo game.Is it in the same franchise? Yes. No one's arguing that. As someone who has actually played halo professionally I am telling you,specifically, in the professional circuit, no one calls Halo 5 Halo. If you want to be 'specific' like you said, then you shouldn't either. They're not the same thing. If you're saying 'Halo Franchise' you're referring to the Microsoft IP, which includes things from Halo Wars to Halo 2 to Halo 4. So your reasoning for calling Halo 5 a Halo game is because random people 'call the shooter game with sprint a Halo game?' Let's get Call of Duty and Battlefield in there, then, too. Also, calling someone a Halo 2 player or a Halo 3 player? It's not one or the other, that's not how Halo works. They're both. Halo 5 is Halo 5 and a member of the Halo franchise. But that's not what you said. You said Halo 5 is a Halo game, which is not true unless you're okay with calling all shooters with sprint Halo games, which means you'd call CoD, Battlefield, and other games Halo games, too.

>>725377113
There was no credible way of keeping the franchise going. Halo was built on gameplay first, story second. The reason why the Brutes replaced the Elite in Halo 3 was to help differentiate the gameplay just enough to not feel like the same old from 1 and 2. And by the time 2 came out, it was definitive that Halo's main franchise would just be contained in a trilogy and nothing more (with ODST/Reach being made just so Bungie could depart from MS).
That's ultimately the problem with franchises that are eventually written to be trilogies; if you go out of the scope of it, you start to contradict everything built around its universal plot. It's one of the reasons why prequels are preferred if the universe is revisited.

>>725370272 (OP)
hire more fat black women who hate videogames

>>725370272 (OP)
Halo infinite is over????
LMAO!

>>725379604
It’s a good game now it’s the best time to play it

>>725378247
Not exactly how I would have worded it, but having played Halo at a high level I see what you’re trying to say. Infinite had multiplayer gameplay more in the spirit of the classic games. But again, I jus don’t think that type of gameplay works now because of how many streamers and kids use aim assisted controllers and such; i suppose map control can kind of help negate this, but it’s a problem with all high level shooters these days. And I think Halo’s gameplay makes those cheats incredibly strong as the movement is initially floaty.

>>725373142
Is this pic official or just a meme?

>>725379604
HALO INFINITE DOOD. WAT NOU?

>>725370272 (OP)
I put Halo MCC on Switch 2

>>725370272 (OP)
Make it a battlefront game with invasion in mind.

>>725370272 (OP)
You can't restore Halo to its former status. The fundamental reason it was displaced is because the gamerbro audience that made it a juggernaut was always going to be more interested in a modern warfare shooter because it's "more real" than that space nerd shit. Microsoft flailed around trying to deny this simple fact for a decade but now I think they've realized they need to manage the franchise like Doom. They can make good games for its fans even if it'll never be THE GAME like its heyday.

Here’s how I fix halo delete all the games past halo reach and just remake all the good games in unreal engine 5

>>725382894
Halo only existed as it was because of the online multiplayer vacuum that existed in console games. Halo was a social phenominon, like pokemon go or whatever else. Sure for their time they were really amazing mechanically and artistically, but what made them take off is that people could buy a box from walmart, plug it into the tv and play with everyone else they knew for the first time. Half life and a million other things already existed but most people didn’t want to, or still want to figure PCkomputer to shoot grunts.

>>725370272 (OP)
Cut the multiplayer, permanently, focus on singleplayer, make it Master Chief only, explore the universe, literally

>>725384003
The only thing I'll disagree with is that Pokemon is not in the same boat as Halo. Pokemon is a sleeping giant only held back by Gamefreak's ineptitude. A Pokemon game with the same quality as virtually any other AAA title is selling 50 million easy.

>>725373538
There is no right-wing roots, schizo. It was made by some left and right-wing guys in an era where we were going up against schizo Islamic goat fuckers that should have been made extinct along with their religion, honestly.

>>725375640
This, bring back the RULE OF COOL

>>725370272 (OP)
Halo FINITE
LMAOOOOO

>>725376496
Fuck Xbox, killing it is the only good thing Microsoft is doing

>>725378084
It's going to be completely new, no bookshit, thank god.

>>725370272 (OP)
I would've delayed Halo Infinite for a year, since the game became fantastic about that long and has since then established itself as the best Halo multiplayer game. I don't think there's anything that can be done at this point, as now it'll always just be more popular to whine about the games than actually like them, and any substantial moves forward were nitpicked to death. Like the latest update could be things like
>Halo Infinite now expands forge with full options for scripting, enemies, music, and more to create full-fledged campaign missions
>on top of this, enjoy a brand new weapon, new permanently free-to-earn cosmetics, entirely new gamemodes added to the multiplayer queue, a few more high quality remakes of classic maps, and some important QoL fixes
and people would just go
>ugh, buh, guh, when are they adding [Weapon That Already Has A New Version In The Sandbox Instead]
>more like Halo Shitfinite, how could 343 do this to us.............

>>725377893
I don't see how you could possible expand the Forge past Halo Infinite's capabilities without becoming a full on SDK, which defeats the whole ease-of-use thing.

Humans are Forerunners.

>>725385658
That goes against the events and lore of halo reach

>>725370272 (OP)
Change the 'face' of the franchise, halo is about strong indepedent women. Using always the same old green armor fag is outdated. Now, I want a game when you can use the helmet of master chief as a portable latrine. I want a game with character creation and you are forced to select pronouns ('he' is not available), boy types but you can only use a rainbow armor. The enemy are not "aliens" but a bunch of straight white male separatists preaching "make UEG great again". The president of earth, an extremely obese black woman, creates a special unit of diversity people to fight againt them, the playable character is the leader of the group.

>>725385658
In Bungie's series

>>725370272 (OP)
put some big titty sluts in it and give master chief a chudcel sidekick

>>725385658
Forerunners are Humans in the same sense that Austreopitholcus is a Human

Halo is an right wing video game franchise being ran by a woke tranny company 343. They don’t want to make a good masculine halo game they want to make master chief a sissy boy with ptsd who wants to transition into mistress queef.

>>725370272 (OP)
find a dev who wants to take on Halo and just give it to them.

>>725370272 (OP)
fucking easy as all fuck
>just make a competent halo game or just touch up halo 3 who gives a fuck
>offer a cash prize for halo tournaments that's something small like a $100,000 pot with $50,000 first place
>just remaster halo wars and make a sequel to it
>make a halo mech game cause fuck it why not

>>725385938
>>725384440

>>725386047
oh you can go deeper
>make halo game where you're a lowly human and have to rely on stealth through covenant or flood or whatever
>halo space craft game holy shit motherfucker
>tie this shit all together with lore references or bill it all as a collection
>just have decent budgets for these things and none of this billion dollar shit

btw they made foehammer black in the new ce “demake”

like for fucks sake you have a fantasy alien future space universe with unlimited potential and the people behind the wheel are the fucking level 2a accountants at macroshaft with the imagination of a fucking balance sheet
>debit the ha and credit the lo

Halo infinite the weapon said harbinger is worse than the flood. you guys aren’t even giving them a chance to introduce this new enemy. I for one am optimistic about the future.

>>725370272 (OP)
Halo Maker. Just give everyone the tools to make their own Halo levels for both multiplayer and single player in the styles of Halo 1-3.

Also, it's a shame they never made a fps campaign from the perspective of an Elite in the covenant.

>>725370272 (OP)
I don't think it is possible because the root problem starts at upper management.
You might as well ask me how to make Tesla profitable.

You would need to first and foremost replace every one at the top ranging from that one pajeet to the nigress that killed tango studios. You could leave Phil Spencer since he has no agency whatsoever and works as a reverse token, as the only white guy in the company.

From there you would need to move operations to Red states since Blue states are FUCKED.
The hoops MS jumps to avoid having full time employees is insane, and that is tied to how labor laws work in Blue States. Simply put producing anything on the West Coast isn't feasible, reason why Id Software can still produce games because they are located in Texas.

Then you have to kill and merge studios left and right.
There is nothing salvageable about 343i or Halo Studios and it is safe to just erase them.
Then form a new company named "Forerunner" or something whose task is to oversee the franchise the same Disney used to oversee the quality of their products 30 years ago.
Use Bungie canon, and stick with the Human Covenant War for the foreseeable future.
Then have Forerunner Studios delegate games to MS other studios like Id Software, InXile, Obsidian, and Activision / Blizzard.
Work on AA titles and focus to have one Halo game per year, not necessarily a core entry, anything like a spin-off would work.
Also bring back Marty O'Donnell, like what the fuck? why hasn't this happened yet?

In short; it would take such a monumental work to make Halo if not the Xbox brand relevant again that it is just easier for MS to just sell the Ip to China.

>fire everyone on 343 studios
>I mean everyone, from the grunts to the leadership
>fresh start
>only white males
>nobody under the age of 30 allowed, either
>their first game must be single player only
>throw away all the canon from 343 games, next game picks up from the end of Halo 3 ignoring everything since

>>725370272 (OP)
>saving a dead game/franchise

>>725370272 (OP)
Port the MCC everywhere

>>725370272 (OP)
nortubel crossover

>>725386665
Hey, they got me too bro.

>after just four years
there's no good reason for any video game or software project to take more than a year

>>725375161
>Anon, 343 was literally from the ground up to inherit Halo and they still fucked up
When 343i was first made they had interviews with a bunch of the devs and several of them specifically mentioned that they hated Halo.

The original halo plot wasn’t even good. It was full of cheesy ass dialogue like going to war and they outnumber us 3-1 even fight nonsense. 343 is shit but Atleast they tried to branch out the story and give characters actual depth.

Why would I save a console shooter?

>>725387329
midwit take

>>725370272 (OP)
its kinda fucked storywise but they really needed to stop just abandoning storylines and resolving them in book and Extended universe content, like the didact dies in a comic, Warden eternal dies in a book, Cortana basically dies off screen and we only see a flashback to that at the end of the game and i bet that the whole harbinger/atriox plotline is going to be resolved via book shit because people didn't care for this supposed new threat that was "more dangerous than the flood".
People liked the banished but they just made them into covenant 3.0(storm covenant just got wiped out offscreen i guess??)) by getting rid of all their unique shit, half the galaxy is still occupied by the Created and Robots even though Cortana is dead but they never bring this up or mention the occupation in Infinite(yes i know zeta halo is currently isolated but you'd think they would talk about the state of the galaxy before the events of the game) The flood might come back but its currently relegated to a kill on site by all factions and is only ever mentioned in waypoint short stories.

>>725387352
I dunno, why would you? You've inserted yourself into this hypothetical so you clearly think that you would, to some degree. Otherwise you'd be a child molesting nonce that should kill yourself.

>>725387501
without using books or wiki and only using the game descriptions they’re one note. 343 gave them emotional depth

>>725387259
Let me help ya senpai

>>725387259
>>725387694

>>725387510
>The flood might come back but its currently relegated to a kill on site by all factions and is only ever mentioned in waypoint short stories.

What?

>>725370272 (OP)
Ideally you would let the franchise go and make a new ip. If you "have" to make Halo games a faithful remake trilogy would be the right move, and all of 343's contributions are ignored for a Halo 4.

>>725370272 (OP)
remove sprint
it's the only thing they haven't tried because they are too proud

>>725387561
Touchy today, aren't we? Like the day your "uncle" molested you.

>>725377113
>is a fragment of mendicant bias that's even more insane than before
contradicting H3 terminals

>>725387076
that's just xbox tho

>>725388217
Nah, for as much homosexuality as you're exuding, clearly the uncle touching lies squarely within your ballpark. And by ballpark I mean you penis, which you clearly force on children, you faggot.

Halo was never good.

>>725387903
They did like 2 short stories about the flood, in the first one some flood forms seemingly escaped getting nuked from orbit by hijacking a ship with a slipspace drive, in the second one the flood ship ends up crash landing on a backwater planet, then a weird fringe cult of covenant moved there, hiding the crash site and establishing a somewhat normal society there but secretly sacrificing themselves to the flood and eventually causing an outbreak to happen.

>>725388581
>for as much homosexuality as you're exuding
Imagine not wuving your shitty console fps, awww, baby got hurt.

>>725388537
That's where the vast majority of the Halo fans are.

>>725388670
oh and the Flood in this story don't make a protogravemind or gravemind like they usually do with bodies and other biomass, they make some kind of psychic signal transmitter looking for something out in space, so who knows what that is going to lead to.

>>725388698
You can choose not to give two dick twists about the game. You can choose to hate it. However, the way you chose to enter this thread? Why, that is in fact the peak of homosexuality, detached completely from those two stances. Of course a malignant retard like yourself would lack the cognitive facilities to recognize that.

>>725388890
You forgot to answer- why would I or anyone choose to save a shitty franchise?

>>725387076
Community servers were a lifesaver for the MCC.

>>725386290
she was always black

>>725385629
It doesn't. You can use forge for quick and easy edits that don't require recompiling the whole map. Then use the SDK for everything else. I did that for Halo 3 and Reach. It has its use, trust me.

>>725387601
>343 gave them emotional depth

That's antithetical to their character. Chief is a big strong gun boy who shoots aliens. He's a vessel for the player to soak in the actual storytelling through his visor. Cortana is meant to be sexy AI snarky foil to the mostly silent shoot man that Chief is supposed to be. They weren't designed to have emotional depth

Halo 4's portrayal of their relationship is fucking weird in hindsight since Chief and Cortana had effectively only known each other for a few months. Did they have some kind of affection for each other? Sure, they're war buddies, they'd gone through a lot together. Not enough for the weird ass melodrama that 4 introduces

Bungie's storytelling was more holistic, with a large scale long running human covenant war, the mystery of the forerunners, and the existential threat of the flood. 343 ruined all this from the beginning starting with making the forerunners aliens instead of human (which btw was the entire reason the covenant went to war with humanity in the first place, uprooting the very basis of the plot)

>>725386290
Good bait. If you couldn't tell she was black from her voice alone (which is a black actress) then you may be retarded.

>>725389032
I didn't forget a goddamn thing, you retard. You're trying to flip the fact that you've inserted yourself into the hypothetical (like a homosexual inserting himself into a child, which is two roles you've occupied both of at two different points in your life, apparently) despite not wanting to engage with it. Clearly the only route forward for a wretch like yourself is to kill yourself. Please post the liveleak link to such a thing in the meantime while I go take a piss.

>>725380710
Could just put it all on Switch 1. The only game in that pack designed hardware above a 360 was H2A, which could be toned down a little visually for Switch, or just force the original graphics.

>>725386665
It's too easy to get banned on these forums man lmao.

>>725389202
I understand, you can't think of a reason why this shit franchise should be saved. Clearly there is some common ground here.

>>725371006
That's such an impossible ask why even bother typing it all out? U mad af still boy lmao

I had an idea the other day for a new halo.

>not about Master Chief/Cortana
>single player about two Spartans; “Phobos” and “Deimos”
>take place in the period in which The Banished have gained major force, and are equal adversaries to UNSC and The Covenant
>story involves co-op gameplay in which you and your partner attempt to takedown a stronghold planet of a Banished Warlord
>game has multiplayer and forge on disc
>market game with late 90’s/early-to-mid 2000’s rock

That’s it. Derivative? Sure. But Halo needs a shake up. And a team of two protagonists who we can see fleshed out in a campaign sounds fun. The Banished make for good foes because their plans are understandable. We don’t need another ancient race of unstoppable unbeatable aliens again.

>>725389313
>>725389313
Steam forums aren't tied to their official forums and janitor duty is usually are given out to random Steam profile. It's basically seen as an afterthought.
t. got perma'd as well
https://steamcommunity.com/id/RafaleEater
This is the forum janny who's usually responsible for all the bans. Has a total of 306 jester awards probably by everyone he banned.

>>725386290
She was always black, faggot

>>725387510
>>725388670
>>725388870
Halo fans need to get over the Flood. They were a cosmic horror for normies that were meant to get permanently beaten in the story. A rotting flash of pig shit waxing Shakespearean poetics is not the face of the faction, it's a literal flood of puke bags with tentacles rushing at you. The 343 books tried fan-wanking their threat to keep open a return to the series but they never could make a reasonable storyline on how the flood could come back so quickly. It shows their concept is weak in general And once they was neutralized the Flood really had no place in the any story going forward.

>>725370272 (OP)
Gears of War > Halo

>lore wanking
As Jaime said:
Lore is an excuse to make cool shit.
If you use lore to not make cool shit then you're doing it wrong.
That's why 343 lore fucking sucks

>>725389362
The only thing I clearly think is that you're a pedophile. Go rape some kids elsewhere, you homosexual retard.

>>725391337
>unironically advocating for child rape
Who's the real monster

>>725370272 (OP)
>How would you save Halo?
Go back in time and ensure that Halo 3 is the last game

>>725391494
You, for being the child rapist AND being against video games

>>725390480
I can't play more than 3 Gears games on PC, two of which are DEI bullshit. I can at least play 7 Halo games in comparison.

>>725391751
You should go back further to keep Microsoft from buying both Bungie and Halo. I rather get that secret Marathon sequel over the Halo we got. Series also would have been better if the novels never existed.

Cheeffag lost and I’m all for it

>>725392326
Gears is unoriginal as hell anyway
>the cog =unsc
>the locusts = covenant
>the lambant = the flood

Bravo what great lore!

>>725374025
>The game adopts a soft "roguelike" structure-
https://youtu.be/GEUpXEOj_AE?t=14
Games need to stop shoving roguelike into literally everything.

>>725387259
Yeah but didn't they replace those devs/they left on their own volition and threw more money at the studio and they STILL fucked up?

>>725370272 (OP)
>Stop fucking making the Master Chief the MC.
>Make some new player characters.
>Retcon some of the retarded books like Rookie's death.
>Retcon 4+
>Take Halo away from 343.
>License the IP out to AA devs.

>>725370272 (OP)
Wait has it really only been 4 years?

>>725376256
which is why you spent the entire game with Cortana of course
because she's dead
but not

>>725373361
>add female spartan who is down bad
Based

>>725396889
yesn't. Infinite was supposed to come out in 2020 but got delayed.

>>725397242
Delayed and it still launched like complete shit

>>725397629
it's a 343 game.

Human on alien sex

Is this safe?

>>725398345
I don't think shoving a plasma grenade up your asshole is a good idea

>Save
I wouldn't. Let things end.

Space birds

>>725371006
Trvke

worthless porn addict

HIROOOOOOOOOOOO

>>725370272 (OP)
Make Blam open source.

>>725399437
More valuable than modern Halo actually

>>725370272 (OP)
>save
Just put it out of its misery.

>>725370272 (OP)
By never making another one and removing 4, 5, wars 2, and infinite from the canonical storyline.
Then when Microsoft sells the xbox brand to fund more AI garbage the new owner can take a crack at it and make a real Halo 4 or even better an ODST 2.

Under absolutely zero circumstances should Halo Studios be allowed to produce a Halo video game.

>>725394169
>all future games are Chief games because other shit kept flopping and proved that Halo's universe honestly sucks
>gets proven right that Halo novels were a mistake
>gets proven right that Halo multiplayer is what's on the chopping block because Halo appeals to no one now
>Halo is forced to whore itself out to other platforms because it's a dead series
I don't know man, that Cheeffag character seemed to be right.

>>725396421
>Stop fucking making the Master Chief the MC.
This doesn't fix Halo's singleplayer's fundamental problem, it'll actually kill the series faster which is why Microsoft banned it.
>>Make some new player characters
They did this, it was shit. Maybe they should just learn how to expand the universe beyond the Covenant aliens from the trilogy, Sentinels types from the trilogy, and Flood forms from the trilogy. Where are the other alien races, where are the other ancient aliens races that rivaled the Forerunners, where are living Forerunners. Waste potential, series deserves death for never utilizing it.
>Retcon some of the retarded books like Rookie's death
Retcon the books, in general and just make this a video game only series, there lies the problem from the very start
>Retcon 4+
End the series then
>Take Halo away from 343
This fixes nothing, do that and fully reboot it from the very start
>License the IP out to AA devs
They're already doing this, Halo Studios is barely even making Campaign Evolved. There was no replacements to gutting of the studio in 2023.

I have saved this thread

>>725401485
>They did this, it was shit.
ODST and Reach are great games. Most of the problems you point out are a result of 343 not understanding halo.

>>725401691
They were COD shit, series seriously would have been better if
>Microsoft never purchased Bungie or Halo
>Microsoft never made a home console
>Microsoft Xbox would have failed with the first console
>Halo the Fall of Reach was never written
These things forever fucked the series over from the very start. Decanonizing the books would have helped the series a lot. Shit isn't Star Wars, never was, it was a fucking video game.

>2025
>Still no playable Elites in Multiplayer

>>725371006
Agreed. Bungie should stop with their faghot destiny game and return to halo but even they are run by fags now

>>725405292
the spartans look fucking retarded too, especially the bots. i dont want a clownpuke skinned spartan with flood shit stains all over it on my team, thanks

>>725380079
could be real, infinite celebrates pride month.

>>725371006
wrong, step 5 would be release the source code for every halo game

>>725370272 (OP)
remember windows 10

>>725370272 (OP)
I would construct the largest collection of stocks in history in front of 343's offices and then place every single one of them in the stocks for the public to harangue. Then once they're locked in, I'd start the men working on the gallows. The next devs will learn not to fuck around with the IP real quick.

Disband 343 permanently.
Halo Studios is literally just the same studio with a different name

whore out halo like 40k

>>725405408
Bungie, even now, knows that Halo was a product of its time. They come back to it, reboot it, and make it the proper successor to the original Marathon series it was meant to be, or kill it and never bring it back. Others can make a sci-fi singleplayer FPS series that can surpass Halo anyways.

>>725406384
>whore out halo like 40k
This solution is retarded on the count that Halo during both Bungie and especially 343 years failed to establish itself as a universe on the level of Star Wars or 40k. You want that universe in game form, remove every Halo novel from canon and start over from the very beginning.

>>725406248
The IP ended years ago, it wasn't even good when Bungie made it. This is the Halo we should have gotten.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6eZ2yvWl9nQ&pp=ygURaGFsbyAxOTk5IHRyYWlsZXLSBwkJAwoBhyohjO8%3D
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AEVz0KyQDt8&pp=ygURaGFsbyAxOTk5IHRyYWlsZXI%3D
Fuck you, fuck Microsoft, fuck Xbox, and fuck Bungie for being a bunch of worthless sell outs.

unironically reboot it as a new universe like in gundam

>>725407547
shut the fuck up

>>725370272 (OP)
Nothing, it perfectly mirrors the fanbase and they get exactly what they deserve

Not releasing games less feature complete than Halo 3 then pissing off and maybe fixing it a year later for once would sure be a start.

>>725375925
i have no issue with humans not being forerunners.
especially when we know that Monitors can forget over time like 000 Tragic Solitude, Monitor of the Ark, forgetting what humans were.
Guilty Spark seeing the first being in hundreds of thousands of years that can turn on the machines, must be forerunner.

>>725370272 (OP)
I'd just:
>make MCC but not shit and only with the original graphics
>focus on putting in a super powerful forge editor and mod tools so people can make their own maps, game modes or even campaigns even for older games like 1 and 2
That's it. People could just play the good halos they like forever without having the series corpse constantly desecrated and they could have fun with cool mods.

>>725407903
Not him, but you shut the fuck up, hard reboot the fucking series or start doing this
>add both cut and new alien races in the Covenant and Banished
>make new ancient alien races that were advance and live through the Forerunner/Ancestor period
>give us enemy Prophet Prelates, new Hunter forms, and alien mechs
>give us new Sentinel types, cut and new
>give us new Flood forms, cut and new
>advance the UNSC to energy-based weapons, flying cars, and some anti-gravity vehicles
>use the rule of cool to make Master Chief stronger and more badass
>give us out of this world alien worlds
>have more moments in the universe where Master Chief sees humans and aliens interacting with each other as if they're part of one society
>have gameplay space battles
>have UNSC mechs including super mechs
>have Chief drive these mechs
>have Chief fight giant mechs on foot
>keep the Halo sandbox gameplay
>take a lot of the cool mysteries from the classic Marathon series and plant them into Halo
Series needs a serious rework because what it's currently doing isn't working.

>>725375042
>Cortana's looming death from the first book
>first book
Fuck you and that book. That book is the reason Bungie wanted to drop the series right after the first game. That book is why the original storyline for Halo got dropped completely. That book is why Bungie's lore for Halo died out of the gate. That book is why the series is in the shitter right now. Microsoft truly is a cancer to video games.

>>725371376
That was Spartan Ops and Spartan Strike.

>>725370272 (OP)
Axing 343, buy nightdive studios and have them handle it. I'd get the to remake 3 faithfully and then make the horror flood game everyone wants.

>>725370272 (OP)
Make it 3rd person

>>725388670
Why the fuck do weirdos obsess so much about bringing the Flood back?

>>725370272 (OP)
>How would you save Halo?
First choice: Give it to ID Software to reboot (Obvious)
Second choice: Give it to Machine Games to reboot (they are the champions of first person campaign games, and have always wanted to make a sci-fi co-op shooter)
Third choice: Let it die.
Since they own both studios all three options are on the table. But 343/Halo Studios cannot save the series.

>>725411212
>Give it to ID Software to reboot (Obvious)
THIS. ID clearly wants to make Halo. The Dark Ages is the best Halo game since Halo 3/ODST.

>>725411004
>faithfully
Just play the original fucking game, no point in remaking it if it's the same game and already remastered on PC. Game wasn't even good.

>>725411212
Give it to an indie or AA to reboot it, no more AAA slop please.

>>725370272 (OP)
More like Gaylo

>>725385868
How big?

>>725410671
Bungie is a shit developer and they never wanted to explain the universe to players.
I blame halo's current position on people like you. blind bungie loyalists that hate any mention of the books and larger universe that is way more interesting than any of their games. the whole lot of you are stuck in 2007.

>>725413927
>Bungie is a shit developer and they never wanted to explain the universe to players.
It would have been explained in a video game way and it would have been as good as Marathon's. Retards that didn't want that aren't gamers and should go fuck off back to their movies.
>I blame halo's current position on people like you
I blame Halo current direction on Microsoft, 3babies, and Reclaimertrannies. Halo 2 wouldn't have turned into a shitty War on Terror propaganda piece if it wasn't for that shitty novel killing Bungie's initial video game lore. Who the fuck even asked for goat fucker Islamic aliens getting ran by long neck alien Jews, fighting a bunch of Christcucks over some God or Angels leaving their creations behind while some demons and their devil leader eats everyone in a flood? I hate left-wing and right-wing politics and I don't want them in my video games.

>>725414547
Longneck prophets weren't in the books and whaterver else schizo thing you said has nothing to do with Halo.

>>725414908
I guess you have reading comprehension skill issues. I said that Bungie only created that garbage lore because they wanted to create new lore due to their better lore getting axed because of the Fall of Reach. I don't like Halo 2 or 3, and I'm not a fan of 343's Halo either. 343 pisses me off more because they made claims to make Halo more like Star Wars yet they're too chicken shit to properly expand the universe and somehow think people give a shit about some character driven crap when people just want to play a video game and nothing more. People want escapism from the real world but they keep getting politics from both sides shoved in their games.

>>725370272 (OP)
The fight was already finished after 3.

Brutal Halo
I'd add in a kick button and all sorts of sick fighting moves

>>725386665
lmao they got me too

>>725370272 (OP)
I liked credit system from reach

>>725370272 (OP)
be honest, would you play that game if Halo was a woman?

20+ year old IPs should not keep going forever. ESPECIALLY not battered & diminished IPs like Halo. When your game franchise is so badly handled that every new entry is met with scepticism, it needs to cease. Fucking move on.

>>725417229
Yes

>>725417229
No, Metroid already exist, and I want to be a badass dude in a suit of armor. Maybe you should fuck a woman instead of trying to be one, you will never be a woman, you will always be a man, and it's better to accept that before someone caves your skull for being a weak man who causes the fall of civilizations.

>>725415373
Prophets were already imagined during the development of Halo CE, if you believe the dev commentary for the first game. Killing Regret in 2 was the actualization of a scrapped CE idea.
I won't say you're wrong to dislike the books (even if I enjoyed the few I've read), but I doubt 2 and 3 were all that different from how they would have been had the books never been written.

>>725419845
Armor doesn't work that way

>>725420502
Yeah, after Microsoft acquired Bungie and Halo. Halo before that is buried in the Cortana Letters.

>>725420512
What about this?

>>725370272 (OP)
Just let go man, halo is long gone

>>725420703
I've been in your shoes a few times. It's not good to obsess over the game that didn't get made.

>>725371006
The show was considered fucking canon?

>>725422314
No it was called the Silver timeline or something. If it had been successful though they might have made the CE remake canon to it and kept going from there

>>725370272 (OP)
You don't save it. It's over. Halo ended at 3. We finished the fight and Master Chief went in to stasis for a final well earned sleep.

>>725370272 (OP)
Maybe set it eons later and maybe the Covenant aliens and humans are mingling now and there are weird interspecies versions of both. Some new abilities and enemies of rogue factions. Maybe a new big bad as well. The title is more metaphorical now with the halo rings being destroyed. I dunno. Add an easter egg with Austin-316 being a southern spartan who opens a can of whoopass on dose summabitch aliens.

>remaster CE
>the game where the second half of the campaign is the first half of it in reverse
Are they retarded?

>>725425959
>Covenant aliens and humans are mingling now

>>725370272 (OP)
Kill everyone who's ever worked for 343 excluding Marty if he was unfortunate enough to be on their roster. Ban women from anything video games related, sorry to the good ones out there like Donna with the coffee.

>>725370272 (OP)
there's nothing to save, it was never good
disband 343
disband Bungie
stop making shooterslop

>>725427119
ODST is 16 years old, Anon.

>>725426438
not a remaster retard, Combat Evolved Anniversary was a remaster(and a garbage, asset-flip one at that)

Campaign Evolved is a remake, they're adding 3 new prequel levels and based on some of the revealed concept art they're definitely changing up some of the last levels, like implementing the Pillar of Autumn being broken in two like Bungie originally intended instead of the weird bridge and open section in the middle.

>>725428483
So they pick the game that is the hardest to remake?
Good luck with that.

>>725429136
it's definitely a challenge, but they seem to be using it as an opportunity to begin again, as this is the first game released since the leadership at 343 left and got replaced by the guy who fixed the MCC and got it into a playable state, and since they rebranded as Halo Studios.

>>725426438
They're remaking it and fixing the second half along with the first half repetition.

Retcon everything after 3 and start over.

>>725426686
Or we can just not buy their products and let Microsoft shut the studio down, commie.

>>725431627
Just hard reboot it or make a new ip. There is no point returning to the old lore because it ended, if you want to do that, you might as well start over from scratch.

>>725431850
I actually think 4 had an ok thing going on with Cortana going Rampant, but they completely fucking whiffed on the execution.

Give MCC more updates
H2&3 new maps
Playstation release
H2&3 tournaments
Bring back clans
File browser fix

we have talked about this shit a million times and my response will always be the same
Grab halo fucking 3
and expand on it and I get it, there were some things in other games that were better like Reach's enemy design/ai so just throw it in there but there's other shit from modern halo that was fucking awful so dont add it.
Sure update the graphics or change the aesthetics I dont give a fuck but leave the core gameplay alone already.
for the brief amount of time I played infinite I actually enjoyed playing it like Halo, no sprint, tried to avoid clamber and if I could have I would have toggled off hitmarkers and bloom and I liked some of the maps too because they felt good and weren't designed with clamber and all this bullshit in mind so 343 are definitely capable of making a halo game but they dont.
Like take the new halo ce remake,
it looked fine when there wasnt any sprint, ads or hitmarkers but fuck me its like they cant help themselves.

>>725432672
They don't need new maps they just need matchmaking that doesn't give you Timerbland and Countdown 75% of the time in their respective Reach playlists so MCC veterans can be amazed by the exciting maps they've never seen before.

>>725433786
I'd rather be playing Countdown than most of Reach's maps honestly. Garbage like Sword Base should've gotten Bungie arrested.

>>725385868
about that size but on a skinnier frame so they look bigger than they are

>>725433964
I have not seen Sword Base in so long I can't even be mad at it and it was still better than most Forge slop.

>>725433647
>leave the core gameplay alone already.
>no sprint, tried to avoid clamber
>I played infinite I actually enjoyed playing it like Halo

this player is old and washed. irreverent opinion.

Microsoft now owns Call of Duty so Halo has no obligation to try to make Call of Duty money when they own THE live service game. The problem is Halo will never beat Call of Duty at its own game, it's too slow compared to COD, especially the Black Ops subseries' breakneck combat pace. Nobody is going to abandon COD for Halo, hell, for all the kvetching online people didn't really leave COD for Battlefield. Fucking Fortnite having a Simpsons event showed more player movement across platforms.
It also can't really compete with boomer shooters since so much of the boomer shooter trend is "remember what shooters were like before Halo?" and consciously avoid regenerating health and the two weapon limit.

As it is, Halo is kinda trapped with nowhere to go unless they massively revamp its gameplay. Otherwise it's just catering to the shrinking audience of people that still give a shit about Halo.
Really I think the most financially viable thing outside of just mass porting the games for the hell of it is just selling Master Chief as an operator pack in Call of Duty. He wouldn't even be that out of place with Black Ops 7's future setting since so many characters are already wearing bulky power armor.

update the forge so at least custom games can carry this turd into the future

>>725435453
Yeah, I've been saying this for a while, but Halo can only survive as a campaign-only Master Chief game, and it needs to add new things to the sandbox and can't keep shilling the Covenant and Flood all the time, that's the only way it can survive now. They should have canceled Project Ekur, I'm predicting that that will be a huge flop.

>>725435697
No I totally disagree. I think a multiplayer is viable, but trying to continue the story after 3's ending was retardedly stupid.

If they're smart they'll just remake the og trilogy, and create one multiplayer with all of CE, 2s and 3s sandbox, maps, forge, firefight etc.

>>725370272 (OP)
Gaylo (literally now lmao) is beyond saving.

>>725436076
Multiplayer is not viable anymore, if anything, it's the aspect of Halo that's on the chopping block, not campaign. Sea of Thieves and Forza Horizon surpassed Halo's multiplayer, Microsoft owns Call of Duty, Minecraft, Overwatch, Fallout 76, World of Warcraft, and The Elder Scrolls Online. As a third party game now, Halo multiplayer must go against CS2, BF6, Fortnite, Roblox, Arc Raiders, PUBG, Apex Legends, and Marvel Rivals. Halo is done and Microsoft doesn't even put Halo in the same league as COD. Project Ekur is going to flop especially if or should I say WHEN it's a paid multiplayer game with microtransactions. Halo MP can't do CE, 2, or 3, it can't do Halo 4, 5, or Infinite. I can tell you right now, it's not doing battle royale, that ship has sailed. Extraction is just following the leader and that's already currently failing Bungie. Halo's multiplayer is a product of its time, it's time to cut it off. PC, PS5, and Switch 2 will not save Halo multiplayer. You are stuck in the past and need to let it go. No one wants to play Halo MP.

>>725370272 (OP)
>4 years
Wtf has it been that long?

>>725436718
I know you probably wont agree
Apex Legends
Arc Raiders
Marvel Rivals
but these 3 are already on their way out. So I do think a halo multiplayer could work they just need to stop fucking fumbling it, like trying to force people into 3 playlists, no forge or firefight is what killed infinite

>>725387694
surely people wont fall for it again right?

Halo Finite

>>725436887
>So I do think a halo multiplayer could work they just need to stop fucking fumbling it, like trying to force people into 3 playlists, no forge or firefight is what killed infinite
Halo multiplayer can no longer work in this day and age. Infinite died because it's Halo, you can pinpoint when the game died, it died the moment campaign DLC got canned, no one actually cared for the multiplayer, they stuck around hoping for the campaign DLC, when rumors or should I say leaks came out that it was canned, everyone dropped Infinite and never returned while BF2042 regained players unlike Halo, same with COD. Sci-fi multiplayer is no longer a selling point man, let it die. You're not getting your 2007 back.

>>725435453
How much money do you think it costs to copy and paste weapons and cosmetics from previous games like a Russian modder? Halo multiplayer is still basically free money if they would be just slightly fucking competent about it instead of releasing without forge or BASIC FUCKING GAME MODES every goddamn time, not even because those things actually matter that much but because releasing without the stuff the previous game had sends a bad message. Halo Infinite For Reals This Time needs to pick up where Infinite left off to justify killing the current game to move engines, not where very 343 flop has started.

What should be worrying is that it will be some UE5 W11 only mandatory ray tracing omega sloppa nobody can run.

>>725370272 (OP)
The halo ce remake was their last chance. They fucked it up.

Its not a remake and it artistically looks like shit.

Its over.

>>725437359
>Halo multiplayer is still basically free money
Halo multiplayer is dead, dead, dead, dead, dead, deaddeaddeaddeaddeaddead DEAD. It's not 2007 anymore, nobody wants to play Halo multiplayer. Your old ass friends are not coming back for this shit. Halo multiplayer is going the way of arena shooters and you can't astroturfed this shit back in the line light. Give up already, why are you retards so attached to Halo multiplayer?

>>725437532
Pull the trigger instead of proxy trauma dumping on 4chan nigger nobody will miss you.

>>725437896
You're going to pulling the trigger once Project Ekur flops, it's time for Halo MP faggots to learn just how dead and unpopular your multiplayer is when it dies within a week or month on PC, PS5, and Switch 2. Maybe that failing will finally pop your little bubble and get you out of your ecochamber on how dead the multiplayer in your series is. You've been stuck on Xbox for too long.

>>725396948
That's not Cortana. That's a clone. Called Joyeuse.

>>725370272 (OP)
Wait, didn't this game just come out? It's been 4 years already?

>>725417229
Just give me a custom protagonist game again instead of making it about Master Chief. Bam, you can get away with a female protag. Whatever.

>>725433786
>>725433964
Notice i didnt mention Reach in my post?

>>725438875
The same thing applies to all the games I just can't stomach H3 in that shit with the ridiculous quitter rate long enough to tell you what the one stupid map that has a randomly ridiculous weighting is, probably fucking Assembly and some forge slop. I can't remember if I even saw Orbital in MCC ever.

>>725370272 (OP)
I had fun but wasn't crazy about it and dropped it unceremoniously after just a while. I don't get how you get to make such a repetitive unremarkable game and hope it becomes a forever game kind of deal.

>>725412656
>>725411068
HALO STUDIOS HIRE THIS MAN!

>watching Halo 3 multiplayer from decades ago on YouTube
>something feels different
>can’t put my finger on it

It’s that feel that existed in TF2 and CS in the same era, but I don’t know what it is.

Halo has the potential to be the best online multiplayer game. Not the most popular again, but the best.

The current problem in the modern online shooter climate, is that there are two models: the battle royale/extraction games, and the campaign + multiplayer model.

The problem with Fortnite, Marathon, Apex, Black Ops, Battlefield, Arc Raiders, Tarkov, CSGO, is that none of them prioritise narrative onto the online gameplay.
If you look at some of the biggest online games of all time, WoW, Fortnite, Halo 3, they all had a deep narrative component to them.

People don’t realise this because they undersell it. Halo has the potential to leech from every single online shooter currently on the simple execution of putting a good story into the multiplayer.

>>725441163
Nah bro gotta make it into an open-world shooter.

Why can't franchises just naturally end? Why do faggots like (You) need to keep them running on life support for a quarter of a century and beyond long after they've died and been sucked of their soul by retard faggot cancer?

LET THINGS END!

>>725441487
Does chess or football end

>>725417229
No.
Halo is peak male hero fantasy and that's how it should be
Metroid and Reach exists already for armored/helmet GIGA CHADS to get their fix

>>725441487
Yeah go end yourself then see how you like it.

>>725441163
It's hard to say, a lot of people did show up to play Halo: Infinite but that was four years ago and a lot of that hype was generated entirely by their insistance that it was a return to form. I wouldn't be surprised if the next game flops because a lot of people were burned a few years ago and it's pretty obvious they haven't learned their lesson with sprint and ads mechanics.

>>725370272 (OP)
>retcon everything after 3
>do an "alternate" remake of the original trilogy essentially attempting to recreate each game as the devs at Bungie originally intended (ex. Halo 2 remake, but using the original draft and cut levels), showcasing what could it have been had it been not for the scheduling and hardware limitations of the time (this is not intended to replace the existing Halo canon)
>Halo: Reach replacement title that actually uses Halo: The Fall of Reach as its main source material instead of shitting all over it
>announce Marathon-crossover title every April 1st and then release an actual one on that date as soon as development is finished

>>725441379
Halo was open world in 2001. That was the selling point of the game, away from the hallways of Quake and Unreal Tournament.

I enjoy Infinite's singleplayer gameplay and I'm tired of pretending like I don't.

>>725441626
I think I'd rather have ADS than the wack ass zoom on non-scoped weapons in Infinite to be honest.

>>725370272 (OP)
There is no saving gaylo, Microsoft's game studios have been subverted for at least a decade and recently they are getting jeeted beyond recognition, there are no good devs remaining to truly make good games anymore.

Bungie has also been dismantled completely since at least 2018 and currently they are "manned" by some of the most incompetent devs in the industry, so even if Microsoft somehow got them to make a new Halo game it would be a shit rehash of D2 anyway.

>Vehement anti-aim down sights schizophrenics enter the thread
I will quite literally never understand you retards and what your problem is with the concept of using a guns sights to shoot it.

What an absolutely retarded thing to decide to get BTFO out about.

>>725370272 (OP)
>retcon and delist from all online stores every game that isn't 1-3 (especially Reach and ODST)
>fire all employees of 343 and Halo Industries
>outsource all future projects to the Digsite Team (who are now full-time paid employees and have a budget in the 10 digit range)
>sue Paramount for botching the TV series
>first new projects are a pair of prequels about the Insurrection from the UNSC perspective and the early days of the Covenant from the perspective of the Elites
>at least one spin-off where you play as a Hunter slaughtering humans in the millions with a fuel rod gun
>absolutely no fucking works showing the Forerunners' physical form allowed

>>725435453
>The problem is Halo will never beat Call of Duty at its own game,

Call of Duty is a completely creatively bankrupt IP that's only surviving on sheer inertia and it's only a matter of time before it fucking implodes

>kneejerk hatred for ODST and Reach
Sign of a brainlet. You niggers are quite literally all carbon copies of one another. It's become the literal go-to response for both brained idiots the world over, "REACH ODST BAD!" if you actually hold this opinion you're a fucking nigger.

>Zoo-
Shhhh, shhhh.... I'm 34 years old anon, I'm not a zoomer.

>>725441163
Being the best can't save it, it's going to die no matter what. I don't even know why they're bothering with Project Ekur when it's going to fail. They fell for the "it was just the lack of content, that's why Infinite failed" meme.

>>725441487
They don't need to. Bungie wrote two endings for Halo, one for Microsoft and one for them. The one for Microsoft was for them to continue it the way they wanted to, the series was theirs now. The one from Bungie was the ending of 3 and Reach.

>>725370272 (OP)
Game that involves sex with sangheili probably.

>>725442759
>Call of Duty is a completely creatively bankrupt IP that's only surviving on sheer inertia and it's only a matter of time before it fucking implodes
Not him, but who fucking cares, you somehow think Halo will come back from the ashes, no, it will not. That's your delusions talking. Boomers hate Halo MP, Gen X hate Halo MP, most Millennials who aren't the retarded late ones hate Halo MP, Zoomers hate Halo MP, Alphas don't even know what Halo is, if they saw Halo MP, they probably would hate it too. Late Gen Ys have aged out, everything else is bigger than Halo MP. Halo MP is going the way of Doom MP in the future and there is no stopping it. Anyone thinking otherwise is not in this reality.

>>725442149
I was talking about smart link

>>725370272 (OP)
Not since "The Neverending Story" has there been such a blatant case of false advertisement.

>>725372454
your mom was gay

>>725370272 (OP)
Give Certain Affinity complete control over Halo and just recommend they use the Halo 2 art style again

>>725373353
>I would get the teams responsible for the map design, weapon balance, and movement in Halo 5 and get them to do it again
Stopped reading there, kill yourself my nigger

>>725445671
Certain affinity didnt make h2as actual multiplayer
They made the dogshit h4 h2 abomination

>>725445985
Actual campaign*

>>725422314
no, the show was announced before it aired that it was its own alternate canon

it was probably meant to be a mass effect tv show originally, but they couldn't get the rights for it and had to rework the script for another sci-fi franchise that they could get the rights for, which ended up being halo.

>>725370272 (OP)
The IP is tainted, it has reached levels of Sony's killzone who gives a fuck, halo went from being a industry juggernaut happily standing in its own path, while other franchises spend millions to desperately compete with them, to now being only 1/8th of what it has ever been. With no vision, no leadership or anyone at 343 knowing how to even direct the steering wheel other then being able to look at past example of bungie, and only being able to guess how it made those games good, while also fucking that up by shoving unneeded modern bullshit into it like a openworld.
Halo will never be good again until someone gets some balls over there and actually steers the entire project into a direction they believe in, either for good or bad, because halo has a severe case of Design by Committee.

>>725370272 (OP)
>Respect Halo 3 ending
>Take Reach art style and customization and improve over it
>No armor abilities
>Sprint as default
>Infinite's movement
>Weapon variety of Halo 5
>Halo 5 and Infinite forge capabilities and assets and improve
>Good maps for BTB, Since Halo 4 it has been lacking them.
>Keep Firefight, Warzone and Warzone Firefight
>Have all the game modes available on launch date
>Campaign? Explore other Spartan or Elite stories in a format like Spartan Ops did, release a batch of new mission every year or 6 months
>Monetization? Make every piece of equipment available with both free and premium currency, but dont make it too impossible to obtain with the free currency. Seasonal stuff available with premium currency only.

>>725371326
>have terrible life
>overcome with panic and grief
>think only way out is suicide
>suddenly fun game drops
>dont want to kys anymore
I never get people like this, like how small were your problems if a fun video game can fix it

>>725448489
This. If a game is what is needed for you to do a 180, and no longer want to anhero your self, then your problems probably weren't that big to begin with.

>>725370272 (OP)
Go back in time and cancel it after reach. Then have Destiny be in the style of Halo with missions rather than an open world MMO.

>>725442015
I also very much like it but i'd prefer it if the levels were more varied.

>>725440754
something about the HDR / bloom? Halo 3 and Source 1's approach to HDR had a similar look. both games used eye adaptation over time, something you rarely find in newer games, especially in multiplayer.

>>725370272 (OP)
Make another MCC to get rid of all the trash on it and I'm not even joking, or alternatively polish the MCC *again* until it is a perfect collection.
Put the franchise on ice for about 7-8 years
Let literally anyone else give it a shot.

>>725428483
The more I hear about this remake the better it sounds.

>>725439083
Good because Orbital is fucking trash in everything but SWAT

>>725414547
You sound bitter and like a third-worlder.

>>725370272 (OP)
I wouldn’t

>>725370272 (OP)
Just let it die already. The story ended with 3.