Thread 725374624

I dont understand why this entire board hates detail. If the devs had modern technology when they first originally made the game it would look like the bottom. Technological restrictions held them back and this places close-minded tendency to cling to chiIdhood nostalgia also holds it back.

less detail is better sometimes.

>>725374624 (OP)
too much detail can over complicate design making stuff less memorable

>primary purpose: clearly depict important stuff such as where you are, where you can go, enemies, and key objects
>secondary purpose: look good

>Maximalism is good, goy! Make sure to subscribe to as many streaming services as possible and have all the state of the art technology!

>What, you don't enjoy being hyperstimulated every second of the day and never being able to enjoy simplicity for its own sake? Well, that's okay, because we're just going to enshittify everything you love and sell it back to you at a premium!

>It's better this way, goy. You LOVE ultrawide support and HDR. You CAN'T WAIT to see how much detail is packed into every pixel. The past is the past, don't you understand? Sometimes, less is NOT actually more.

>>725374624 (OP)
>nostalgia
No. The reason is because games do not replicate how the eyeball works with focusing. So when you add all this detail it literally turns to visual noise and you can't make out what you're supposed to be paying attention to. It's really that simple.

The only time adding detail works is when it's in VR because you are in control of your eyeballs. And not a camera.

Design > noise.

>>725374624 (OP)
The mountain peaks absolutely beautiful in the top pic. Like something out of cartoon, dream, or a fairy tale. Reminds me of candy.

The bottom is just real cliffs with fake plastic trees glued here and there.

Because the top an ethereal dreamlike world made with care and the bottom is a Fortnite aesthetic, bastardization of the very thing its poorly attempting to minic made by incompetent fucks and browns.

>>725374624 (OP)
kill yourself, dirt

>If the devs had modern technology when they first originally made the game it would look like the bottom
And if they did it would be worse. Restrictions and obstacles inspire creativity.

The original games didn't have the sex dragons so Reignited wins

>>725374624 (OP)
Are you brown and young?

>>725375651
>Fortnite aesthetic
This is the main problem with it. It looks like a place I've already been, it looks exactly how I'd expect a Fortnite crossover to look.

Everybody is using the same styles, realistic, the same cartoon Zelda style or Fortnite. I've seen it, I've got bored of it. It's not impressive anymore, especially since I can create the exact same style in UE5 with free assets. There's no "wow look at the graphics upgrades, I wonder how they upgraded gameplay", it's "this is an unreal engine game, I've seen a similar scene hundreds of times over."

>>725374624 (OP)
The human brain is much better and more easily steered when working mainly with suggested detail.
But using simple details also means that every detail can be deliberate.
Compare the original, where even the guy composing the music was doing so by playing the game and coming up with vibes, to the current, which was so starved for time that the work was split between 5 studios and the original studio mostly worked on irrelevant bara NPCs.

I do think that people are focusing on the wrong thing though. The biggest problem with modern tools is that they allow people to produce sloppy, work that isn't up to spec, but which is at least presentable and capable of hitting deadlines, as opposed to the previous state of things where they were unable to produce anything at all.
The bottom image could easily be just as good as the top image with added detail, but they put zero effort into that and everything in it is wrong.

>>725376307
The worst part is that a lot of the core art team worked on a pseudo-MOBA that has art direction way closer to the original Spyro games, but because Activision had far stricter deadlines and like 60% of the art staff one Reignited were outsourcing crews mostly indian lol their talents were absolutely wasted.

>>725374624 (OP)
This board is made only for shitposting and porn, 99% of posts you see here aren't actual opinions, just ragebait, including yours, you never played any of those games.
You're all retarded niggers that need to be shot irl.

>>725374624 (OP)
>if the devs had modern detail a clearly intracately carved marble wall would have been crude stone with shitty wood beam supports instead
okay faggot

>>725374624 (OP)
those "mountains" look like pure ass at the bottom and the contrast and colors are worse

>>725375021
>too much detail can over complicate design making stuff less memorable
Perfect description of what is making modern gaming shit.

>>725376464
Another image. Check out the super nice, consistent hue on those rocks and the way it contrasts with that water reflection.

>>725376768
they know what they're doing too. they do this to catch your eye so you'll get bored faster and wait for the next thing

>>725377059
No it's because kids are terrified of luminal traces.

>>725374624 (OP)
Technological freedom leads to over-budget slop that takes forever to make so production staff with fake positions gets laundered money

>>725374624 (OP)
This entire board is infested with canerous tendies shitting on anything anyone else enjoys with random word salads

Original is kino, unique & dreamlike.
Bottom is too cluttered and looks generic.
Remakes are always shit because the designers fundamentally misunderstand what made the originals good. They also have massive egos and tend to change shit that doesn't need changing because they think they can improve upon the original, or because of the "modern audience".

Because /v/ faggots live by "old good, new bad"
like this >>725375383

>>725374624 (OP)
Bottom is why yellow paint became a thing.

>m-m-m-muh dreamlike
>m-m-m-muh skyboxes
>m-m-m-muh generic
>m-m-m-muh pixar/fortnite
Every single reignited thread is the same fucking shit

>>725374624 (OP)
none of my old games needed yellow paint to identify what's interactive and what's just decoration

>>725376892
gigantic if true

>>725376464
>>725376892
these look heavenly

>>725380601
They're pretty great. The lead character design on that game is also one of the guys who did a lot of the dragon designs for the Spyro 1 remake, and they look WAY better in concept art because they've got far less oversaturated color palettes and more consistent anatomy compared to how the 3D models turned out.
https://www.artstation.com/artwork/ykDeLn
Like, compared picrel to >>725376116, they're not even the same design any more.

The original was intended to look realistic, and is just shitty because of hardware limitations. The remake is intended to look like clay or plastic to decrease the budget.

>>725381916
>The original was intended to look realistic
No it wasn't you retarded pseud

>>725374624 (OP)
Spyro 2 and 3 already peaked the visuals that remain timeless even now

>>725381916
>The original was intended to look realistic

>>725381916
>The original was intended to look realistic
How did you come up with that? I really want to know.

>>725375021
>source: i grew up, so new things dont feel the same as my nostalgia does
what a retarded argument.

>>725374624 (OP)
Are there any female dragons in this game or is it just 30 dilf dragons?

>>725384417
The villain in the third game is a fat lady dragon

>>725374624 (OP)
You wouldn't get it

>>725386152
Shes some kind of dinosaur like Ripto. Dinosaurs in Spyro suck at magic which is why they need dragons or artifacts to give them an edge.

granted, I haven't played any spyro games in a while, but these are my immediate thoughts

>>725374624 (OP)
>Top
>Can immediately see 2 enemies 2 creates the balloon and some gems in the background
>Bottom
>Spyro is so bright he draws most of your attention
>Crates are harder to see at a glance
>Didn't even see the wizard for a bit because of all the visual noise
This shit is why I fine modern games so hard to play
>Ur blind
Yes FAGGOT yes I am. Make better games that aren't just 98% visual noise and have good art direction

>>725387826
My only real complaint here would be the grass obscuring stuff and I guess that is a design decision whether on not you want the player having to hunt through grass for shit, doesn't sound very fun to me though
Maybe they could have higher contrast or more shine on the boxes and gems

The enemies, portal, etc. you would recognize once you encounter them the first time same as the original.

I dont understand how anyone can shill the Spyro demake when its been nearly 8 years since it first released and despite its “success” inspired zero followups. If it was fucking great we would have a Spyro 4, even Crash got a new entry.

>>725388343
>If it was fucking great we would have a Spyro 4
Like Crash 4

>>725387826
criticizing design while also using unreadable borderless red text was a choice

>>725388343
I don't see how they can be successful by the expected standards of modern games sales.
Back in the day these were primarily kids games and effectively the most popular kids games due to the style and ease of simply jumping into them and playing. Nearly every kid with a playstation played spyro.
Today basically no kids play these kinds of games and go straight to roblox, minecraft, fortnite, COD, etc.
So their only market is either nostalgia bait or people who are specifically into platformers which is a niche today in comparison to all the other genres.
Can't see them ever gaining the same kind of mainstream appeal. And if they do not have mainstream appeal big studios will not make them.

>>725374624 (OP)
Hipster faggotry is the reason people shit on reignited. I played the shit out of the original trilogy growing up and loved them. Bought reignited and played the shit out of it and loved it. I'm not a contrarian faggot and actually play the games. TLDR Only hipster faggots hate reignited.

>>725375021
I felt this when playing Metro Exodus
Beautiful environments but everything is so detailed that its hard to differentiate random decor items from interactive items
Just feel it puts a lot of load on your brain

>>725378930
100% true.

>>725392912
This isn't really a problem in Bethesda games even though they have tons of detail and items as well.
I feel like the real issue is having so much static shit that is just useless and does nothing.
If you aren't going to let the player interact with anything why is it there at all?
Too many funhouse walking simulators. Piles of gear, supplies, armor, axes and swords around you but the only thing you can pick up is a single glowing crowbar.