Thread 725402173

Why did all the hype die for Monster Hunter?

Because Wilds

>>725402173 (OP)
Unironically Wilds.

More like Milds.

Wilds chased the vapid audience that played as world. That audience wouldn’t check in a second time. So it flopped

>>725403357
Not true, I bought Wilds because I enjoyed World but the shitass PC version means I've played less than half an hour.

>>725402173 (OP)
because capcom doubled down on the worst aspects of world
it's even more on-rails, it's even more "le cinematic", it runs even worse, it looks even muddier and more boring, it's even easier

>>725402173 (OP)
they threw pacing out the window and quadrupled down on retarded endgame treadmills

>>725402173 (OP)
RIP MH series, Wilds left too much bitter taste no one is going pre-order the next big one no matter how much they hype and shill it.

All goodwill has gone.

>>725402173 (OP)
Capcom thought MH reached Pokemon status and they could get away with a low quality product...they were wrong and worse yet they completely forgot the painful lesson of BN4.

>>725402173 (OP)
World was too perfect.

>>725402173 (OP)
No massive DLC with free shit and new monsters, just the same old stuff and only one monster ever 3 to 4 months.

Some of the people who jumped on with World didn't get what they wanted out of Rise, and Wilds went on to be a total shit show that at least united the splintered fanbase in how much they hated it. MH failed to capitalize on its sudden surge of global popularity.

>>725402173 (OP)
3dsbabs poisoned the well bad enough after crying so much nothing ever was like their colorvomit slop or gacha endgames. And they hate when the game has any mechanics that do anything but directly fight the monster

It's funny how people nobody says anything about the godawful dropped or unrecognized inputs and how badly Capcom overcorrected in shoving in out of place master rank level hunts into the endgame.

>>725408705
>Capcom overcorrected in shoving in out of place master rank level hunts into the endgame.
This is how all the games are, the stuff late into HR is very hard, then they’ll dial it back for early master rank before cranking it up again. Nothing wrong with it.

>>725402173 (OP)
Because it really isn't fun and has too much baggage on top of that.
Baggage like visuals not justifying the system requirements, excessive cutscenes for a story that is garbage, walk & talks, completely fucked pacing where the game constantly throws you into hunts one after another without letting you explore the biomes, somehow simultaneously overtutorialized and undertutorialized, legitimately godawful UI reminiscent of MMO parodies, awful menus, "micro"transactions, daily login bonuses, timed fomo events, butchered "Proof of A Hero", etc., etc..
And all that was just off the top of my head. I'm sure there is plenty more to complain about.

>>725402173 (OP)
World flopped and killed the series for good.
Rise tried to bring it back but not enough people played it.
Wilds just came and went under the radar.

World was a huge success financially and expanded the player base. They have large groups of people who want different things from casuals who want 0 friction and one shot every monster with ease with a "cinematic" story, to people who've been played since Freedom and want a slower game (combat wise) with the story just contextualising your actions, to people who like GU/Sunbreak and want faster more "arcadey" style combat. Capcom have no idea how to cater to them so they went all in on the casuals they got from World and pissed off everyone else. They've been correcting course but nothing significant can happen until master rank so it's a wait and see job.

Iunno but as a result I returned to Sunbreak and the Freedom games so whatever. Let Capcom sort their shit out, there's plenty already to keep me occupied.

>>725402173 (OP)
What are you talking about bro, I'm having a blast

What's the point of having monsters leave tracks and giving the player paintballs in Wilds?
LITERALLY what functions do either thing serve?

>>725409621
Monster Hunter is now a retarded fragmented fanbase of multiple subgroups who don't actually know what they want and will never be satisfied.

>>725402173 (OP)
disingenuous premise, the game is alive and well and the people that actually play the game(s) enjoy it/them

>>725410089
Paintballs are a ping in multiplayer and tracks give investigations though that’s pretty pointless

The hype is merely dormant, I'll be ready to discuss Wilds in 2030 once I've upgraded my PC

>>725403357
Not even that. All my World-loving normie friends were excited for Milds and all of them thought it was a disappointment. Wilds chased an audience that didn't exist, probably because Capcom would rather have 10k MTX-gobbling retards than 100k players intelligent enough to appreciate good design.

>>725402173 (OP)
Wilds and Rise were both mediocre. The monhun team is going back to the mines soon if they don't get their shit together.

>lock fucking *sidequests* to postgame
What was the reasoning?

>>725410309
>Second wave of hype for Wilds when people with weak PCs can finally play it
>Second wave of disappointment in Wilds when those people realize the game really was shit all along

>>725410623
>HR
>”””postgame”””
Low rank is just a tutorial

>>725402173 (OP)
Worlds turned the franchise into normalfag bait. It's been dead since then.

>>725409158
Based on what metric? World is Capcom's best-selling title and Rise is #2.
https://www.capcom.co.jp/ir/english/business/million.html#tab6

Wilds sold 10 million btw
best selling game of the year btw

>>725410710
>Low rank is just a tutorial
High rank is just a tutorial too, Wilds never actually starts.

>>725410710
Zoh Shia is clearly framed at the final boss and the narrative climax of the whole story.

I don’t think of myself as elitist or even that good of a gamer, but it’s undeniable that the game is unbelievably easy. The story was horrible, lots of focus given to some annoying brown boy, and the artificial monsters frustrated me to no end. They really did an “equal dragon weapon” and it was ass.

>>725410919
He’s the final boss of low rank, which is a tutorial. They don’t even let you craft most non Hope equipment until close to the end even if you beat low rank monsters for the gear, it’s a cinematic tutorial.

I saw livestreams when Wilds was released. The game literally consisted of you walking around with jeet sidekick to villages full of niggers. Despite loving Worlds I came to the conclusion that this game wasn't for me

>>725410896
It has absolutely shit legs, Capcom wanted it to continue to sell millions for years and hasn't been able to sell another million in six months.

>>725410282
So, effectively nothing. Amazing forethought from Capcom.

>>725410896
>10m at launch
>Not even 700k in the 6 months afterwards (477k + 160k)

>>725411321
Is BN4 again.

>>725402173 (OP)
People complained about Rise so hard, Capcom made the next game more like Worlds, and this is the result.

Nightreign does it better imo

Don't worry, MHS3 will save MH!
Jokes aside, Pokemon Z-A getting its DLC expansion in December means nothing can overshadow MHS3 on March.

FU, 3U, 4U, HD Collection when?

>>725411725
Never, asking for Capcom to rerelease an old mainline game is like asking Nintendo to rerelease Melee. They don't want to set up servers for an old game and cannibalize players from their most recent MH.

>>725411725
never going to happen
MH is a live service series now, selling the G versions of old games would cannibalize the sales of the newest game and multiple hundreds of dollars of mtx
I can guarantee Capcom would take down World and Rise from storefronts if they had the ability

>>725411617
The next mainline should unironically use that style.

>>725410428
This, Im one of the normies. Loved world but wilds, despite having a great core, barely had any content at release. Devs thought they were smart by releasing the smallest game to create hunger and then deliver dlcs regulary to keep it running longer. But the problem is that normie players arent patient, theyll just move on to different games and thats exactly what happened. Normies dont hardgrind for perfect gear to pass the time

>>725411870
>now
KEEEEEEEEK

>>725411617
>>725411906
But it basically looks similar to Wilds, just more toon and in the plenty all the time.

>>725411617
But will it have sexy cats

>>725412832
Absolutely ridiculous how this looks leagues better than Wilds.

>>725411617
Mainline should look like this

>>725411365
Battle Network 4?

Next mh will be an extraction game

>>725414712
Are you threatening me with a good time?

>>725414053
Yes, BN4, the best selling BN game until the Collection. It sold purely on the good will generated by BN3 which was a godlike game so people happily bought it, played it and realized it was UTTER FUCKING SHIT so they didn't buy BN5 and Capcom decided to end it all with BN6, this is exactly what is happening with Wilds.

>>725408592
>Gacha endgame
This wasn't the case in 3U, the best MH ever made

>>725411617
Capcom realized this scene is memetic and now they use it for advertising.
https://x.com/MHST_Official/status/1987445053229260852?t=acf5TY16lnE5taz4PVX25A&s=19

>>725416171
But most people cite 4u and genu as the best?

>>725416339
Shit taste on their part. 3U is the fundamentals perfected. I wasted 400 hours on 4U and enjoyes it at first but my entire opinion on the game changes when I got to the endgame, this shit is so annoying, I spent literal days playing all day for a Shaggy GQ and didn't get shit. Expeditions are a waste and even after playing online for hundreds of hours I've never seen anyone actually enjoy a level 100+ GQ, it's always a bother doing it and if you win it's disappointing because you didn't get the loot you wanted.
I wanted to try GU but got sick the moment I realized it had mountfaggotry too. Give me old MH back

>>725403357
>played as world
ChatGPT fucked up lol, abandon thread this is some dead internet shit

>>725416694
>3U is the fundamentals perfected
Underwater combat

>>725417141
Was kino. What's your point?

>>725416339
>But most people cite 4u and genu as the best?
Those games are responsible for the current perpetual loop of "fight same monster you've already killed a dozen times over already but now with HP bloat". That's boring and lazy padding, yet for some reason this fanbase eats it up. I'll gladly take TriU's G Rank any day where all the fights are either hunt-a-thons, arena trials, or just unlikely monster scenarios.

>>725417141
>Underwater combat
Is perfection. Glad you agree.

>>725402173 (OP)
Wilds, no kidding

>>725417239
It was garbage. Don't lie.

>>725417482
Worked for me, trapped on the 3DS even.

>>725408705
>It's funny how people nobody says anything about the godawful dropped or unrecognized inputs
I've been complaining about this shit since World
All this extra fluidity and fancy animation interpolation came at a great cost, unironically making the gameplay feel less responsive compared to 3rd and 4th gen

>>725402173 (OP)
Because the game chased trends and QOL'd all of the principles and challenge out of the series. Even one of my buddies, that started with World, got tired of the game after reaching the end of high rank. There is no longer any effort needed to progress through a base game, which is why they keep having to add more and more endgame grind and content drops to this series.

>>725421327
>There is no longer any effort needed to progress through a base game
Why do people keep on trying to perpetuate this myth of there being a difficult base game? After your first MH, there is no MH game after that will ever wall you like on your first one.

>>725421871
>Why do people keep on trying to perpetuate this myth of there being a difficult base game?
Why do people keep on trying to perpetuate this myth of there never being a difficult base game?

>>725422747
Because there was no such thing past the original 2.

>>725423065
4 already had GQs and Gen had EX Hyper Event quests that were challenging.

if they do an official GU port then i'll forgive them

>>725411459
It's literally two different teams, dingleballs. Next game is portable team and will be like Rise.

>>725402173 (OP)
Mh was never suppose to become a mainstream game but world changed that and wilds is the ultimate product of world success
Unfortunately wilds still made enough money to guarantee another world like mh game

>>725412832
Shame the colors are all washed out. I just wish RE engine could do actual color.

>>725410428
Your friend started with world
I know many people who's first game is wilds and they think its the best

Monster Hunter died after part 4
Styles, transmog, and health/status scaling ruined the game.

>>725402173 (OP)
>>725402356
>>725402882
>>725403153
World killed the IP

>>725423247
Why are you counting endgame content for difficulty, when according to /v/ none of Wilds current endgame counts either?

>>725423564
retard

>>725423568
No one cares about difficulty except for retarded niggerzoomers.

Unite, 4U, GU are the best monster hunters period. Nu-Monster Hunters are fucking abortions.

>>725423065
*rapes you to death*

>>725402173 (OP)
monster hunter never had hype in the first place dude. It was souls tourists balooning the metrics

>>725423564
This is the only trvth
Even i a normiefag who started with world know this, i only thanks world for introducing me into this series which made 3u, gu and sunbreak my one of the fav games of all time

>>725410919
that's literally exactly the fucking same as every other fucking game in the series besides world. World is the only one where narrative climax is in high rank for some reason.

>>725423564
The fall started with MHX

>>725423667
Replace 4u with sunbreak or 3u
4u is good but not that great

Between DD2 and this, I consider Capcom irredeemable dogshit. Again.

>>725402173 (OP)
Take a gemstone. That's Monster Hunter.

In MH1 the gemstone is still uncut, still covered with rock, but you can feel it's there.
In Freedom Unite you can start to see the shine underneath the grime. You can tell there's something really special here.
Come Tri, 4U, and GU the gemstone continues to get polished. Now you can definitely see its luster, its shape, its value. There's still blemishes here and there, but it's a real beaut.

Now come World, the gemstone has been put in an industrial polisher. All the blemishes are gone. It's -perfect-. Almost too perfect. It's beautiful, but somehow it feels somewhat impersonal now.

Then in Rise and Wilds, something unexpected happened: By putting the gemstone back in the industrial polisher, all the edges got polished out. It's now a perfect sphere. Still technically pretty, but in no way resembles what it was before. All the rough parts, the little bits, the imperfections and blemishes, those are all gone. And you start to see what looks like cracks. You're not sure if they are, but you swear you can see them.

That's Monster Hunter as of today.

Fire ichinose and mh will be saved

>>725423847
Tri*
2dos was last real mh

>>725423568
Because base games had difficult fights included. You can add 9 months of Milds DLC or not I really dont care.

>>725402173 (OP)
Wilds offers absolutely nothing new, it essentially doesn't need to exist. A few new pokemon is such a low bar it doesn't mean shit.

>>725423921
>You're not sure if they are
Oh I'm absolutely sure about Wilds.

>>725423997
no, base game had difficult quests dripfeed release as event quests since mh1.

I don't like the world building of wilds
I want village to return

>>725423994
stop muddying the waters retard no one even replies to you

>>725424067
4 and Gen came with GQs and advanced hypers day 1.

>>725402173 (OP)
People finally realized "You hunt one monster you've hunted them all". Every single hunt and fight feels the exact same with some different cosmetics.

>>725424264
world and wilds came with tempered monsters. Your point?

Also gen wasn't deisgned as expansion type game so it's an outlier.

Also also the real difficult quests still were even only, same for 4. The ones that had stats set higher than whatever max GQs

Mh was never good except for world
This game is the only GOOD monster hunter game
You can close the thread now

>>725423686
Even with gear, he was still an asshole. And Devil Jho was such an asshole in Tri no one ever bothered to fight him legit. I miss Tri.

>>725402173 (OP)
Seikrets killed the game. Seriously having an autotracking mount that doesn't even require any input to take you to the monster for the entire hunt is absolutely retarded and took away so much from the game that I don't think they can even fix it in the DLC expansion. They should just make a whole new game instead.

>>725424773
I picked up GS to fight tri Jho. Good times.

>>725424474
I wouldn't put tempered World and Milds monsters on the same level as GQ 100 or advanced Hypers but sure. You said only MH1 and MHDos base games had hard content. I said Gen and 4 did and you keep bringing up World and Milds.

>>725402173 (OP)
world was great and ran everywhere.
rise was good and ran everywhere.
wilds is meh and barely runs in computers that could control spaceships.

So not only isn't as good of a game as word or rise, but the 3rd worlders that would be playing it, aren't.

>>725412832
This game being turn based and not just monster hunter but toon is a crime.

Could be the windwaker of monster hunter, instead it's trying to compete with pokemon.

the beauty of World's combat to me was that it was action packed with enough complexity to no get stale while forcing you to commit to attacks and get used to your weapon. the focus mode or whatever removed a lot of that.
another thing i liked was having to waddle around collecting resources for my hunts, it felt immersive. the auto run auto collect mount removed a lot of that too.
add the unnecessary on bad story and the bad performance, ugly graphics. yeah...

>most content dense monster hunter
>can revel in the more grounded pre-g content or take on the dbz endgame
>best music besides 4u
>best switch axe
>tonga and magnet spike are silly but insanely fun
>hardcore variants for most monsters making for fantastic shake ups of your old favorite hunts
>pet duck
>pet wyvern
>pugi can join quests with you and give skill points
>hunter road if you have a roguelite itch
>pariapuria
>run a felyne market street that's watched over by ur waifu
>play animal crossing
>most gooner armor selection in series
>train and customize an ai partner who can actually keep up with the dps output of another human
>upgradeable super saiyan mode
Come, weary hunter.

>>725425406
>rainbow servers
>90% of the content is easy mode

>>725425398
lmao kill yourself stupid nigger, the beauty of world is that it finally killed the IP, we are free now, Wilds simply finished what World started.

>>725425704
World brought it to life, no one wants to play on a 240p handheld with 1 circle pad. and knowing this makes you seethe endlessly

Wilds is just World, but everything is more stupid.

The weapons are simpler
Movesets have less going on
You auto run to the monster
The monsters are easier

It's just World but dumber and World had taken a lot of the series nuance away already.

>>725424856
i've said every game since mh1 had hard content locked behind online downloadable even quests.

>>725402173 (OP)
no one could play Wilds at anything above 37.1 FPS

>>725425793
I think it's the opposite, knowing that everyone agrees that world started the downward spiral makes you seethe, cause you are a stupid nigger that doesn't have the patience to appreciate tru emonster hunter. Die bleeding mad

>>725417350
>yet for some reason this fanbase eats it up
"this fanbase" ? tell it how it is: the 1% that kept playing a decade later. almost nobody who buys these games is killing the same boss a dozen times, that's mental illness

>>725411959
>Normies dont hardgrind for perfect gear to pass the time
That's the thing, you can't "Hardgrind" for perfect gear because Wilds just gives it to you after 4 hunts anyway
A big, big part of the problem with Wilds -- apart from the performance issues and the bungled "open-world' bullshit -- is that there's no tangible reason to hunt monsters more than a few times each

>>725426025
cope

>>725425992
>turn on DLSS to get 55FPS
>turn on framegen to get 160fakePS
>best looking monster hunter and one of the best looking games ever
Anons thinking they know better which options to turn on than the devs who made the effects with expectations of framegen smearing the fuck out of smoke and explosions and wind etc

>>725426139
>you can't hardgrind
mw perfect charm hunting that existed since 3 and armor sphere hunting that existed since world both being present and more relevant than ever in Wilds

Horrible perf, zero grind because everything drops 999999999 items when you kill it, way too easy, and I don't play games to babysit shitskin children

>>725425641
>playing rain
wew lad

>>725426327
basically the entirety of Wildwiners be like:
>claim to be monster hunter fan
>can't even beat the tutorial

>>725424856
You newfags forget that stuff like that was all on-disc dlc unlocked on a schedule.

>>725426490
>unlocked on schedule
>but only if you connect to servers
yeah big fucking difference retard when i still have to do arcane shit with emulators and save editors to turn it on.

>>725402173 (OP)
It's strange really, because it had everything going for it. I had hundreds and hundreds of hours in 4U, and World was one of my favorite games of all time. It kind of feels like they literally designed it to be generally.. annoying? On launch it was pretty unfun with how often camps were constantly destroyed; There was zero sense of progression to finding them because they would just get wrecked and I would have to spend even MORE fucking time in the various menus and submenus to restore them, just to have them break again within minutes and sort of invalidating their whole "explore our vibrant wilds". Why should I bother when the camps I find don't matter? Where's the comfy village hub with its own vibes? The submenu navigation is also exceedingly complex for no reason, on release everybody was confused on how to just fucking play multiplayer.. in Monster Hunter lol. The new monsters, while neat and not bad per say, didn't have quite the same draw and personality either. The wounds system is funish in concept, but ultimately feels less engaging than the clutch claw to me personally and it probably was meant to be to focus more on the actual fight itself but then it just kind of seems like a half assed addition just to have "something" as a mechanic tacked into hunts. Content came out a bit too slowly to keep me playing, and now that there's a pseudo grind for charms I just.. don't give a shit really. It's also fully transitioned to spending a bunch of dev time on cash grab paid content as well now, which really rubs salt on your wounds as a long time player when every single event used to be free and give tons of fun cosmetics and soulful crossovers. It feels like it's playing catch up now and it's kind of too little too late for me, I checked out a while ago and will maybe boot it back up when master rank rolls around.

>>725426490
I am fully aware it was on disc's and cartridges locked. I dont know what the point of your post is other than to pretend to be an oldfag.

>>725411959
Grinding in Wilds just means farming random stat talismans from boring ass 9* quests. It's like the monster hunter team purposefully did the most sleep-worthy, banal thing possible. Everything about Wilds lacks flavor, even the grinding is so boring the usual monster hunter freaks barely do any of it. The entire game is a snooze.

>>725426225
popularity is decay , no one wants their favorite ip to get popular. You are mentally ill and retarded, feel free to go back to r3ddit

>>725426606
>camps constantly destroyed
don't place them in the middle of highways, it's risk reward mechanic for grinding specific targets faster. You set up specific high risk camps when playing specific quests. Like to speedrun ATs and shit.
>where's comfy village
there are multiple pick any
>submenu
exactly as problematic as it was in world. But you retards can't read and click shit cause you somehow don't even know how to select departure camps when it's clear visible option
>wounds
Literally the improvement of claw people were asking for when whining about iceborne
>charm grind
Again what fans were asking
Like always the main progression is the fun part and base game endamge is super niche thing for miniscule amount of players who will become carrys when next content batch drops.

>>725423564
Lol no Worlds was super popular among normalsheep
Wilds took the series out back and shot it

>>725402173 (OP)
Wilds. There is nothing 'Monster Hunter' about that game aside from the name and roster. Everything good about classic Monster Hunter and even casualized shit like World and Rise is not present in Wilds. Wilds went out of its way to NOT appeal to Monster Hunter fans at all.

>>725427304
>there's nothing about mosnter hunter
>monsters are soulless
You bitches got a fucking octopussy drop, got a brand new flying wyvern skeleton, got elaboration on ancient weapons, got soulful reimaginings of classic monsters, yet still you cry about something. Wilds has the best monster roster base World and Rise could only dream about

>>725427271
only because their PC can't run it but it's just world with a clash parry and a block parry. Boring, Automated, shitty, casual, etc. Doesn't feel like a monster hunter anymore

>>725403153
>*whistles for magic chicken*
>autoruns to monster marker while i watch tiktoks
>"Mhmm... Chatacabra, gotta be."
>"Come on, Seikret."
>Big Nose Tits Mcgee Handler shouts in my ear
>"YOU REALLY ARE A MONSTER HUNTER™ IN THESE WILDS™"
>approach Chatacabra
>whiff TCS but thankfully I can activate my Hunter Senses so I 180 pivot to hit the monster
>continue using hunter senses and unleash my cinematic attack
>repeat this 30 times
>get hit once, thankfully my cat throws a ball of green cum at me so im completely healed but just in case i call for my magic chicken to swoop me away from danger while i auto sharpen, heal, do my taxes, and make some food while the monster limps away
>when im ready, the magic chicken autoruns to the monsters exact location and arrives in 4 seconds, enough time to completely ignore everything else onscreen like the landscape or endemic life while i watch a tiktok (thank goodness for this small quality of life feature)
>kill the monster (really hard because i had to use buttons to make things happen in the game)
>skip all the post-quest text and rewards with 1 button (i can get back to watching tiktoks faster)

>>725427451
Nah
It jumped the shark with the pivoting mid attack shit, ever normalsheep realized how casual the series had become

>>725427769
as if pivoting mattered that much, world was already casual as fuck wilds simply continued what world started.

>>725427854
It matters because it took the last bit of difficulty/skill out of the series and in a very visible way that the normalsheep couldn't miss or ignore

>>725427767
>goes to an area
>cutscene introducing the chicken plays
>spam random buttons
>chicken is stunclocked to death
>you won
Yeah monster hunter 1 was such a hardcore game wasn't it even it's tutorial monster is more hardcore. Oh wait it isn't you can literally stunlock it to death. And it has no excuse of having complicated weapons as you can't even charge the greatsword there.

>>725427931
There was nothing about hitting your shots, no one missed shots, difficulty niggers truly ruin everything. Monster Hunter was a roleplaying game for you and your friends, not a shitty action game.

>>725427931
having to aim was replaced with having to use perfect blocks and parries from nearly undodgeable attacks. Cause even lance can't normal block without chip damage anymore.

>>725425406
I tried it and it felt worse than mh1 for some reason
Is this game based on 2nd gen ?

>>725428282
google it, you already know the answer anyways.

>>725416695
I can confirm as the original poster of that text that I simply just made a grammatical error. I am a human. A grammatically challenged human but human nonetheless. The internet is definitely dead though

>>725428330
Shame because it looks like gu

>>725428335
internet is too fucking alive with the amount of retards who barey played, if even played, the game past the fucking first tutorial quest, and still pretend to know shit about it. It takes fucking days to farm one piece of gear up to max defence level, yet here they are going "this game hands you everything there's nothing to grind for"

Wilds suck but its hilarious rise is still the worst thing happened to mh along with gu
Going from world to rise feel so fucking off

>>725428485
it's simply boring, you are a bot. No one cares about difficulty or grinding. The core was busted with World, Wilds simply finished the job.

>>725428571
ah yeah and fighting the same one monster for half a hour in 4U "the best game in the series" for that one piece of relic gear SUUUURELY wasn't boring.

>>725402173 (OP)
Wilds runs like shit, barely looks better than world, and the hunt aspect of the game is basically gone with the chocobo automatically taking you to a monster.

>>725428060
I want the Wilds bow to be renamed the short bow and I want World's bow back as the long bow.

>>725428637
Correct, cause 4U still feels and plays like a monster hunter.

>>725427421
And yet there's no reason at all to fight the majority of the roster

>>725428734
>look inside
>the overpowered once you buff insect glaive melting shit
>literally all of the wilds "bad dumbing down mechanics" as the fan favourite version of charge blade
hypocrites.

>>725428787
ah yeah, like ANY GAME gave you ANY REASON to fight the majority of the roster. Almost like it was objectively the best to fight ONE monster in 4U, THREE in World and finally all became required in rise/wilds
Also objectively the best way to get armor spheres in Wilds is to grind for gems, and they randomly spawn in investigations across the roster. meaning picking even doshaguma and hirabimi someties is objectively the best thing you can do

See as i've said, you niggers never played the game so you don't know this shit.

>>725428537
Then why Rise continues to sell? It outsold both Wilds and World in what the current fiscal year of Capcom is going, hell, the latter doesn't even appear in the sales report.

>>725429092
Rise has been outselling World for several Quarters now. I suspect thats why shitcom made arbitrary sales rules for World+IB sales with an asterisk.

>>725429092
cause nobody bought rise back then and are now catching up?

>>725429182
It is literally the SECOND best selling Capcom Game ever.

>>725429259
v/ been posting it having half the world's sales for months anon

>>725429321
It has half the sales of World + IB total.

>>725402173 (OP)
Redpill me on Wild. Why is reception on it kinda bad, or poorer compared to previous entry. Is it solely on the shitty performance issue? Also, I honestly have no idea why Capcom decided to force the MH team to use RE Engine when it was obviously wasn't designed to run giant open areas. The engine they used for Worlds worked fine, with some issues, but still, much, much better than RE engine.

2 bad games in a row
/thread

>>725429769
literally same exact reason as rise was redpilled. Wasnt' finished on release. Now people just making up shit to continue the narrative.

>>725402173 (OP)
>play demo
>new hammer moveset is gay
>40fps without framegen

And that's when I decided to not buy Wilds.

>>725429960
Ah, so it's content wise. How's the game performance lately?

>>725429769
ugly setting, ugly characters, non-existent difficulty (wounds and player power in general are obscenely out of balance), auto-travel mounts that basically play the game for you (it's not monster hunter anymore, there is No Hunting anymore, it's just you being shepherded between cutscenes)

for whatever reason, they have decided it best to let people who hate monster hunter develop their new monster hunter games. revisionists and charlatans with no concept of their franchised history

>>725430054
it's better but mainly if you turn on dlss and framegen. Without dlss gains are barely noticeable, as the main part of optimization was irmproving asset streaming and DLSS. You can get 60+ on DLSS alone, but without it you are forever locked into 40+ territory regardless of settings. Triangle people still pop up sometimes right after driver updates. It's better but unlikely to ever get to the area of actually 60+without dlss till we get more powerful hardware.

>>725430126
>wounds
found another retard who couldn't beat the tutorial cause anyone who actually played the game knows that wounds literally just don't fucking exist once you leave it.

Guys... I fucked up and started at world. How do I fix this?

>>725430640
wounds are a constant factor until you get to 8* monsters who have huge wound resistance buffs

>>725416694
3U is fundamentals perfected? oh you must have misspelled p3rd

>>725430841
>4* get wound resistance
>tempered got wound resistance
>4* tempered gets barely any woulds
>4* tempered lala barina is literally the first quest past beating LR zoh shia
Yeah, as I've said, once you leave the tutorial

Why couldn't they make a new game to build upon Rise instead of making a worse version of World?

>>725430942
cause to keep up with annual release schedule of the series it's actually two serieses in trench coat

>>725412832
>>725424995
>toon
It's anime, you retards.
It's japanese vidya series and no matter how much you deny it, you're a fucking weeaboo.

>>725430640
>>725430930
that which is made trivial should be excluded
handholdy powercreep features need to be gutted from the monhun franchise if it's ever to see its past successes again

>>725431231
>it's past success
You mean eating shit when derrivative dark souls stole it's glory? Till they actually started making games with tutorials? 4U fags not realizing that their best game in the series is literally exactly as noob friendly as world is.

>>725431493
>4U
stupid bankai "weapon styles" dogshit that steered the franchise the direction its taken today
3U was the last good monster hunter game and i'll die on that hill

>>725429092
Yet no one plays it lmaooo

>>725431652
World was the first good one cause it dropped the whole gay forced multiplayer angle so I can actually beat G-rank hunts in a reasonable time. 3U turned them into a real slogs in comparison to FU where you could absolutely melt any Grank monsters but Fatalis if you use their weakness. Shooting down nargacuga with rapid fireS in 4 minutes solo was crazy.

Imagine still defending Wilds when their actual target audience who used to basically worship MH so much are shitting on it now

>>725429769
For me its the horrible low rank
>Game force you to watch shitty cutscenes which you can skip sure but you can't skip those boring slow walking talking section after each new hunt
>Sekrit auto run like one you have in mmo games
>Zero prep which was already bad in world
>Focus mode made the whole natural weakspot of monster irrelevant
>No village
>Ugly world
>Very bad map design
>Drip fed content
>Shit multiplayer

>>725431962
i've realized target audience been retarded since i've actually played the holy cow of 4U which ended up just being way worse than 3U.

Wilds is just World without the fairy glamour. Everyone sees how shit it is now. Even World babbies don't like it.

I haven't played Wilds since launch. I beat it, played a lot of HR, then stopped. And I don't regret it, there's a lot of other games this year that are way better than the time I had with Wilds and a highly doubt Lagiacrus, a monster that was just an overgrown Khezu on land, and Omega Weapon, will make me care about the game. Now I know they added Seregios, and Seregios was pretty cool when I fought it in GU, but Seregios cannot carry a game. Sorry.

>all the weapons improved
>vibrant locales threatened by storms that you clear
>peak final boss
>peak flagship
>game on the smoother easier side

Literally peak3rd 2. It even starts with a peakbear too. Scarlet forest is the closest to misty peaks map we had.

>>725432282
>khezu on land
GU version of lagiacrus isn't canon buddy

>>725429769
The game came out early because they thought GTA6 was going to come out this year. As such it released with no endgame. This isn't unprecedented or anything, since selling the later half of the game a year or two later in the form of another game or an expansion is very par for the course for the series. The problem was that it was even less than base world, rise, or even base 4 (jap only). If you wanted the best randomly generated carrot on a stick you had to fight one monster over and over again and it got old fast. Since then they added a harder difficulty and another carrot on a stick to grind for, which is cool, except no one can play the game on pc.

Am I stupid, because buying a MH title on release sounds stupid, unless you're some kind of homosexual with a group of friends to play consistently and you all wanna experience it together.

But aside that, sounds like you're *way* better off only buying these games when the expansion is out. I'm still not done with Worldborne personally and just bought Sunbreak on a fat discount.

>>725432616
Yes except for multiplayer there's 0 reason to buy these game day1
Sunbreak and gu are my favourite mh but i played these way later with full content

>>725432616
yeah ever since base versions tharted coming out in the west people were crying every title

>>725432616
Buying an MH at launch is a bad idea unless you get it for dirt cheap somehow or you have friends

>>725432578
The reason no one can play the game is because it runs like shit. It wasn't very good on launch and has got exponentially worse every update. Again this isn't unprecedented. Iceborne(the world expansion) and everything rise ran like shit on my machine, and japs are infamous for making shitty pc ports. It's why I got the playstation version this time because I didn't trust capcom to not ratfuck me. A lot of people bought wilds on pc this time around and are now finding out that japs are horrible at optimizing for pc, especially when they were on the initial crunch to beat the GTA6 launch

>>725432831
i have below minimum requirements and it runs fine anon

>>725432831
Works on my machine

It's just a bad game

>>725432831
I never owned a nintendo machine but all mh should get a switch release so we atleast get a semi optimised game on pc later on

Wilds was basically all the stupid shit that made playing World annoying and upped to 11.
Then they decide to use Indian programming and it runs like absolute dogshit even on good cards.

>>725432879
Good for you. Runs great on ps5 and I've only had a few crashes. Doesn't mean other people aren't running into a billion issues. They did say they are fixing it next month

>>725432959
Rise is on switch and runs... fine. GU runs great but it's on the 4U engine so a toaster could run it. Haven't tried the switch 2 of either but I'd assume they are slightly better or the same. Switch 2 is also part of the reason rise is selling so well rn

>>725403357
>10mil sales
>flop

>>725432831
It runs fine, the problem is the game is just shit

>>725410896
>Noooo, not our narrative! It flopped okay?! IT FLOPPED CHUD!
The same people that tell you Wilds flopped will tell you AC shadows didn't.

>>725402173 (OP)
>Release a game that barely looks better than the 7 year old installment
>Runs poorly on everything
>No significant gameplay improvement or incentive to play the new game
They did it to themselves

GU was the last Monster Hunter game, mald about it

Savage Jho in 4U has no right to be as fucking bullshit as it is, every single attack is a pin, how the fuck can you even fight that motherfucker safely?

>>725402173 (OP)
>hey MA, I posted it again!

different context same point.

>>725403601
>more boring, it's even easier
objectively wrong on both points
You have not played the game.

>>725434778
>that time they made you wait 900 seconds to post
I wonder if this new generation of bullshit theyre doing is going to get even worse than that was.