Thread 725483171

700K concurrent players
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They really need to dial in the network issues, but truly the only game to successfully make a PvPvE extraction game that's balanced and isn't just a PvP with extra steps sweaty shitshow

>>725483171 (OP)
they need to do something about the griefers who shoot on sight and the spawn camping, right now there's no reason to not use free loadouts as in 9 raids out of 10 you die a few seconds after you spawn and in the rest you get kiled by a camper at the extraction.

Free loadouts is the way to play

>>725483376
>shoot on sight
like the npcs do to you in the tutorial? this is not some game erp game where you make nice with everyone and that culture around the game is sickening to me, some people (like me) are bloodthirsty chads and will take all of your shit simply because I want it.

>spawn camping with free loadouts
what?? with your prepared loadout you cant wreck a free loadout goober? unironically get good

>>725483376
They need to reduce the number of players on a map to less than 10, which would easily reduce the issues of spawn camping as well
And add 50% more arc at minimum, and increase the total possible number of arc by like 5x
I've played for 40 hours and have not really ever had issues with spawn camping or extract camping (NA servers) but almost always run into other players around extracts (sometimes as many as 4-5 other players getting out at once) just because there are so many fucking players on each map
It's just too player dense imo and I'm not one of those that thinks the game should be pve only by any stretch

>>725483497
purple weapons and heavy shields give no real advantage, the person who shoots first always wins if he's competent, and a ferro is more than enough to deal with the AI too. I have no idea what the hell they did with the balancing in this game.

>>725483686
less players per map would also probably ease the stress on the servers that's causing so much desyinc

I just use free loadouts and loot some poor idiot good weapons along the way, 0 risk, only reward

>>725483686
i played both alpha and beta, the game needs this amount of players per session. when they had less, the game felt empty as fuck. it was a looting simulator and almost nothing else.


the thing I actually appreciate the most about the game in its current state is the interactions per minute one seems to have

>>725483171 (OP)
i don't care about this game, i sunk 20h in it and i realized that the game is boring.

I don't really understand what people see in this game

700k on all platforms feels pretty low for how much its being shilled

>>725483632
You "chads" will cry once the new players and easy preys will all leave after dying the 100th time while doing a simple quest, minding their own buisness and being friendly, (which is something the game actively encourages and is marketed around) and the only ones left will be the sweatlords that ruin every PvP game.
>what??
>>725483838

>>725483497
I think this is my big issue with the game. There is zero incentive to not use a free loadout. It works great for PvP, it gives you everything you'd need. Sure you want stronger weapons for stronger Arc robots, but why fight them? Just let other retards fight them and then kill them.
Higher tier gear means fuck all for PvP, and PvP is all anything comes down to, one way or another.

>generic corporate product that will die out once the marketing period ends and it's no longer a fresh product to consoom
Who
gives
a
shit
>b-but a lot of normies play it!!!
A lot of normies thought Ready Player One was a good movie/book and not some clueless boomer copy-pasting "iconic geeky references" and "gamer culture things" from Wikipedia.

>>725483838
yeah pvp feels pretty bad sometimes, hell even shooting arc from like 10 m away there's a noticeable 1/3 - 1/2 second delay between the shot and the impact it's fucking insane
>>725484043
I get what you mean but I think you need to be able to have raids where you don't see any other players if you don't want to
Especially for solos where every player is another potential 3rd party, vs trios where say 21 players per server could be as few as 7 squads vs 20 other players in solos

>>725484279
they fucked up when they switched from PvE to PvPvE and didn't properly balance the game around that. I only see hoards of free loadouts fuckers trying to hunt the only poor guy with actual gear in the map, and everybody ignores big arcs because you just really need to kill one of them one time each to upgrade the workbenches and then they're just a nuisance forever.

So what's the point in crafting good gear when you can just get it from some other player that crafted it corpse?
Even if you have some of the best gear you will eventually die by bad luck against some retard and he will get all your stuff.
There's no point in crafting good gear and taking it topside.

>>725484279
the game has just been CoD for me in the past raids, people just kill eachother with free loadouts and don't even loot, they need to properly buff the late game items because right now a base ferro in the hands of the right person can easily kill a fully kitted out player, going topside with any type of gear is just a useless risk with little return

>>725483171 (OP)
It's fun and it has high production but it feels super repetitive. It feels like it boils down to:
>collect loot and whatever materials you need
>deal with pve or pvp until you extract
The progression feels lackluster and it feels like:
>collect loot to complete quests, upgrade your workstations, and get better gear
>you also have skills to upgrade
Is this really the whole game? Is it literally just collecting scrap to get better tiers of shit? Am I missing something or is there some aspect of this game I'm missing? The presentation is top notch but I feel like the gameplay is average.

>>725484363
glad you won that argument with yourself

>>725484701
you're talking as if there's any real scarcity in the game
if you have a blueprint for a gun then losing it is no biggy really, you just craft another
gun parts aren't too hard to come by and celeste sells 3x per day of light medium and heavy for seeds which you get from scrappy every raid
free loadouts are cool but i have more fun running an anvil or a ferro + kettle or a hairpin + osprey
the game is third person so it's not particularly sweaty anyway combined with the fact that loot is abundant and everything is valuable for something whether that's trading or crafting or whatever, there's like no gear fear
it's not tarkov where a good kit is expensive and easy to lose

>>725484701
you can kill all the AI with the exception of the queen with the ferro, the starter rifle, and you can die pretty fast from it even if you have the heavy shield, the game has foundamental flaws and the devs are doing radio silence right now.

>>725484701
Good gear isnt hard to craft

How often do servers wipe?

>>725485036
>complete quests
quests really need a rework, they don't even give you xp and just give you a couple of blueprints and ugly skins that you'll never use, there's no reason to do them

>>725485291
there's no wipes, only voluntary wipes

>>725485291
They dont wipe, you can wipe your own progress for buffs

>>725485036
that's just the gameplay loop of every extraction shooter, you're supposed to like the fighting, the looting and progression is just the dressing.

>>725483497
>>725483689
>>725484279
>free loadouts
enjoy having no ammo lmao

>>725485517
Even with other extraction shooters there's more to do beyond just fighting and looting. Maybe Arc is too casual for my tastes?

>>725484091
playing with friends and fighting groups of 3 is fun
which is why I DESPISE the gay friendship cooperation shit people are trying to force. THAT is what makes the game boring. tactical firefights between groups with the game's mobility and weapons and having to keep the npcs in mind is actually decently fun

>>725485575
All I need is a crowbar

>>725485575
ammo is literally everywhere, raider chaches near every spawn, red lockers, raider bases, supply drops, downed probes and couriers, you can get plenty of grenades, heals and ammos a few minutes into the raid no problem and even just the ones you get at spawn is enough to kill a player and steal his stuff.

>>725485612
>Even with other extraction shooters there's more to do beyond just fighting and looting.
like what?

>>725485612
well you might like tarkov better but its completely fucking flooded with cheaters. the incentive to keep playing in that game was to achieve your dream build. a fully customized operator loadout with every attatchment you've been eyeing, the best ammo, the best armor, etc.

the issue with this game is that the very first single shot rifle you get is strong enough to deal with most situations.

>>725483376
>griefers
>why are players shooting at me in this pvpve game?! save me embark!

>>725485702
>playing with friends and fighting groups of 3 is fun
i have fun when playing with my fiends too, but not because of the game, but because of friends.

i prefer PvE, and i would probably grind it if it was just that.

>>725485713
its actually shocking how easy it is to get crowbar kills. people just fucking freakout when you run at them, its hilarious

>>725485702
>the gay friendship cooperation shit people are trying to force
then ask the devs why they added an emote wheel and proximity voice, and in the literal trailer of the game they show solos join togheter, and the whole story of the game is how humanity should stop fighting eachother to beat the robots, when in you opinion you're supposed to only shoot on sight and play like this is cod but with inventory jenga. Fuck, this game has a pride flag as it's icon, you bought a gay friendship cooperation simulator.

>>725485807
nta but I feel like Tarkov and Hunt has more interesting features to keep it fresh. You're also dealing with the problems that's unique to those two games so it's a pick your poison kind of deal.

>>725485702
what are you talking about? the gay friendship cooperation is the best part of the game.
>play solo
>meet people while playing
>act really friendly, see if they want to team up
>murder them the moment they're looting something
this sort of thing didn't work in rust because everyone was on edge expecting even their irl friends to murder them on a whim

>>725485843
have fun looting my tier one sticher and the 4 rubber parts I looted earlier I guess. You just wasted everyone's time while by cooperating you can easily take down the bigger arcs and get epic tier loot instead.

>>725486201
You literally mentioned zero features though
What ones keep them fresh?

>>725486240
it's not goping to last long her either because all the friendly players will leave if this keeps up

>>725486268
>im just doing quests
>all i have is a free kit
>im just loaded in
its fun making you shitters seethe

>>725486307
nothing, tarkov is a literal russian scam that has had the same dogshit quests for 10 years
same cheaters too

>>725486307
they have nothing. it's all the same thing under the hood.

>>725483376
they need to make the arcs stronger, shooting should immediatly aggro all the drones around you instead you can easily ignore them.

>>725486409
yeah ok I'll just load again and respawn until I eventually get a good match where I don't meet retards and can do my quests in peace, you just make it tedious and get nothing in return, only waste bullets and time

>>725486268
I don't even bother looting you, trashcan. All I need is the satisfaction of pissing on your corpse.

time one month and the playerbase will halve, people will just start shooting on sight and all the cool marketing clips of people cooperating togheter and having fun will vanish, which will kill the momentum of the game, then the devs will either try to cater to the PvE crowd to get some people back, or lean more towards the PvP sweats to try and get their money, either way less and less players will remain until it gets on life supports and eventually die.

Free loadout shouldn't have a gun

>>725486729
you're basically just a more annoying drone to me, but if you're having fun you do you, like I said eventually I get a good match and manage to actually play the game, I don't get angry when a rocketeer aggros and kills me, It's just a waste of time.

Too many CoD normies with open mics and stereo set ups. Seriously why do these lowlife twerps play without a headset?

Looked up a way to deal with them without muting them and found this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kkcgz4zjhPA

>>725486709
why not just gitgud and win the fight?
> and get nothing in return
how would anyone know that? plenty of players choose to spawn in with a full kit. in fact its easier to farm players than it is weapon cases

>>725487014
on no! it will drop to only 350k active players? how will it survive

>>725483171 (OP)
what was the previous popular online game? hail drivers or something?

Have you given her your seed(s) yet, Anons?

>>725487138
free loadouts shouldn't exist, you get enough free stuff from the rooster already, this is just making it uselessly risky to get topside geared out

>>725487539
is she the only italian in the whole game that is set in italy?

>watch quin play this to see the new player experience
>mostly ui gameplay with some interaction with players
i dont get the hype

>>725483171 (OP)
>the only game to successfully make a PvPvE extraction game that's balanced and isn't just a PvP with extra steps sweaty shitshow
you and I are not playing the same game them, everyone already figured out how to easily deal with all the AI and it's just another pvp game with extra steps now, people even stopped communicating, the first few days were the only good ones.

>>725486307
i've been out of tarky for years but
>Massive weapon customization
>bossing
>interesting healing and ammo systems

Go woke go bro-ACK

>>725487731
Tomographic

>>725487138
It should have the shitty silenced pistol only.
Enough to get you bye in a serious pinch or to sneak through a place with cameras, but not enough to actually get you by in any combat situation against humans and regular robots.
Seriously why take anything else? Only reason I'd take a green or higher gun is if I had multiple, or the recipe.

>>725483376
someone killing you in a pvp game isn't griefing lol

>get in raid
>manage to team togheter with other 3 solos
>a kid starts shooting at us from a rooftop
>we easily down him
>asks us how we're togheter
>we say we simply didn't shoot at eachoter and teamed up
>mf is surprised you can do that, thought you'd get banned if teamed up with others like in Apex
this is why gaming is shit nowadays

>>725483171 (OP)
Not even 1 million? Embarrassing.

>>725488127
They really need to add a section in the tutorial where you use the emote wheel and teamup with a npc, he gets downed and you res him with a defib. A lot of people shoot on sight because they don't even know there's an emote wheel and don't experience half of what this game offers imho.

>>725484279
incentive is that once you get blueprints, building a new gun is very cheap. Also your storage is limited and as you play, you'll gain a collection of equipment that'll take up space if you dont use it.

>>725487902
so fighting and looting? gotcha

>>725485207
>radio silence
the devs already said there's more pvp than expected and will do something about it

>>725488371
>blueprints
what's the point when a bobcat is barely better than a sticher, and a ferro can deal with all the AI? also you can easily sell all you excess equipment you accumulate form your infinite free raids, which means infinite free money, so free stash space.

>mission on buried city to find the cache at the gas station
>literally spawn at gas station
>forget to bring the burletta with my to plant
FUCK

>>725488782
me with the mission where you need to bring batteries and wires, they don't even tell you before

I don’t like inventory management simulators. The entire “repeatedly run around and pick up loot and do it again” gameplay loop is uninteresting to me. If I wanted to do that I would play Rust since it offers more consequences and some persistence over time.

It seems like most players want a PvE game but also want the “risk” of being PK’d. Seems to me like the logical endgame for the genre is PvE with really difficult AI to add that element of risk. Maybe with an optional PvP area or something.

>>725488876
You can atleast find or break other items down into batteries/wires.

>>725488940
>the logical endgame for the genre is PvE with really difficult AI to add that element of risk
then you lose the players whose sole goal is to hunt other players
and those who like to help other players
and anyone who realizes that its the unpredictability of other players and the unique moments that happen with pvp that cannot be replicated by AI enemies despite the fact that the ARC enemies are really fucking good and fun

>>725488290
The chinese dont count as people

>>725488940
at least it's just a slot based inventory and not a tetris one like tarkov, stack sizes should be much higher though

>>725483376
>pvp in a pvp game
that's just how things are

>>725489249
Stack sizes exists to make you actually use shit. The problem is the PVE is so easy at some point, which isn't a gear check but a knowledge one, that you only die to PVP

>>725488940
I honestly just want a pve game with the voip and random experiences of this game, getting betrayed at the elevator adds nothing to me, it's just a nuisance.

>>725487014
trvke. Every extraction shooter that has optional PvP will eventually devolve into deathmatching with extra steps. Even tarkov is leaning more into the PvE mode now since 99% of players don’t actually give a fuck about PvP. It’s the same with every game in the genre

After getting shot at twice for no reason in solo I loaded up on blue gear and started executing motherfuckers. Solid loot too. I guess I pvp now

>>725487707
There's this Sicilian gentleman

>>725489383
>leaning
Having it exist isn't really so much leaning into. For me PVE is the only way my fried will play Tarkov cause he has kids, and I can swap over and enjoy the normal servers and he can take the knowledge from doing PVE to the real servers every once in awhile.

i hope they add maps from different countries for new seasons
like the whole raider underground expands or you move to a new part of the world or something
imagine the swiss alps or a war torn Seoul, or the amazon rainforest
the map designers and graphics folks are fucking insanely talented so i'm looking forward to some more ludokino as time goes on

>>725489383
every pvp game will eventually become just a sweatfest and pve in this game is way too easy to even keep some balance, you can solo the queen from an unreachable rooftop ffs and the other arc can be oneshotted with the surprisingly cheap wolfpack.

Brother insisted I play this slop with him. Every time I party with him he is hyper fixated on looting even when I’m getting 1v3’d by turbo homosexuals that camp high loot areas and extraction. 8/10 games we get wiped because of his refusal to observe his surroundings. I tried playing solo and it is pure aids. 90% of the games are people camping a building, camping extractions, getting killed from the back 1 min into the game etc

>>725489678
blue gate is already the alps, I honestlu prefer if they kept it in italy, there's enough diversification and they're takiong enough liberties already no reason to stretch the lore so much to the point raiders can traver the entire world thorugh tunnels.

>>725489713
>surprisingly cheap wolfpack
>cheap
I haven't found a blueprint, so fuck me I guess? Not everyone gets blueprints as often as you. They're a random drop.

>>725488072
It is when its a pve game lol

>>725489857
You guys keep crying about camping but I never see it
Maybe in trios but what the fuck do you expect in the sweats mode where its kill on sight 99% of the time

I'm sorry mr. advertiser but I'm not buying this slop

>>725489149
Yeah so they’d lose 5% max. Whereas more than half don’t want pvp at all. Get fucked nigger.

>>725489905
a blaze grenade trap oneshots a leaper, 5 blazes can kill a bastion, you candown a rocketeer with just a ferro if you have cover. AI is extremely easy to kill, it's just not worth it.

>>725490023
people kill on sight on solo queue too, the first weekend was the only days I met friendly players.

>>725490023
Idk about him but I expected a fun game, this shit ain’t it.

>>725489149
>the unique moments that happen with pvp
you mean getting shit rocked when just trying to play the pve part of the game, yeah, really unique

You act like this is the first game to have pvp, no, we've had thousands, they're all the same, one side is the winner and one side is the loser but the person looking for pvp is always at an advantage because they're forcing their game on others, so generally even if they lose they still got what they wanted and calculated beforehand so any potential loss is minimized. It also tends to attract the players most motivated to become skillful and competent, who necessarily will prey upon the less skillful and competent, creating a massive schism in the playerbase where one side is getting exactly what they want and the other side can no longer even enjoy the game.

>>725483171 (OP)
Go woke...get rich?

>>725490213
Dunno about that, I just had a few games where I wasnt gunned down while looting
But we are just sharing anecdotal experiences

>>725484271
your first PvPvE game?
they will just move on to another new game to kill noobs there

>>725488072
you get nothing by killing other players, especially on spawn, often times it's just a free loadout. The game is pve at it's core, pvp just adds some tension when you're looting in an open area, but it's really not worth it to shoot at other players unless you want to grief.

>>725483171 (OP)
wow that's a lot of people trying to get into the same lobby as their favorite streamers

>>725489880
i mean i'm pretty sure the lore is that the arc world is tied to the finals world, so i'd be surprised if they kept everything in one place the whole time
doesn't need to be a whole world tour but i do hope they add at least one cool jungle biome

>>725490563
>you get nothing
I never understood the need for material gain behind every action in games. An experience, the rush of it is usually enough to get the dopamine flowing. No need to "get something" out of it.

>>725490023
Im playing solo on na servers and never had one positive experience with another player. It likely due to the majority of na has inherently violent niggers plaguing the matches. If I play solo the game basically devolves in me becoming a paranoid schizophrenic. The teammates I get in trio have to be bots, I refuse to believe the average player is a spaz

more than 50% of people I've encountered have been friendly

is this game only for zooms?

>>725490725
it's implied that the finals people are the ones that escaped earth generation before arc raiders is set (before the first wave of robots), and now probably just live in the matrix somehwere in orbit while the arcs extract resources from the earth to keep them alive.

>>725489937
it's not a pve game

>>725489905
nta, also no wolfpack bp but i've got like 5 or 6 of them in my stash, and i'd sold 2 early on for cash and to clear space since they don't stack
hell i used one just to kill the damn surveyor cause i didn't want to have to deal with it rolling away or anything
they're a rare drop but not than uncommon to find, even found one in a shelf in buried city in the pharmacy

>>725490845
I also play NA servers and only 2/10 runs do I get shot at. 1/10 just takes a potshot at me before usually scampering and the other 1/10 immediately goes full nigger mode so I gun them down quick.

>>725486201
I liked Synduality with its Black Market / Association faction mechanic.
It's too bad they never let you queue with your friends

>>725483171 (OP)
>extraction game

Miss me with that gay shit.

>>725483171 (OP)
>you HAVE to buy de sloppa bro
>EVERYONE else has de sloppa BRO
buy a fucking ad.

>>725490947
Its not a pvp game either then, stupid nigger.

>>725490840
ah yeah, the great rush of dopèamine you get by shooting me in the back while I'm looting or as soon as I spawn. I don't even fight back, just to give the people like you the great rush of dopamine you deserve, it's not like I have anything to lose anyway, guess it's fun and it'll also be fun when all the noobs and friendly players will go away and you'll be forced to play only against sweats.

>>725491150
>kills you in extract
ok

>>725491197
>gets blown up by a rocketeer
Gee, was that a player? Nope looks like its an ENVIRONMENTAL threat, huh dumb fuck?

>>725490840
ah yeah, the great rush of dopamine you get by shooting me in the back while I'm looting or as soon as I spawn. I don't even fight back, just to give the people like you the great rush of dopamine you deserve, it's not like I have anything to lose anyway, guess it's fun and it'll also be fun when all the noobs and friendly players will go away and you'll be forced to play only against sweats.

>>725491279
rocketeers are retarded 95% of the time and are a non issue generally.
maybe if they fix the ai I'd worry about it

>>725491354
Who asked for your opinion you worthless cocksucker? Fuck off lol

>>725483376
I don't even play this shit and I just want you to know that carebears such as yourself ruin every game they touch

>>725491405
>Loots your shit in extract
Thanks!

wait a month before buying see if it's fotm

>>725491279
it's extra funny when someone downs you on the elevator and you manage to extract while he dies to a fucking wasp becase he forgot this game has pve

>>725490563
I get fun out of killing other people which is worth more than any gear

>>725491329
See >>725491003

>>725491542
you can shoot at the dummies in the shooting range because I garantuee I have lots of fun staying still while the great hunter that thinks will get a pvp fight shoots at me

>>725491445
No you eon’t retard, I quit until pve only is added. And because of you dogshit third world shit stains, I will CONSTANTLY call for it in EVERY discussion I see until it happens, just because I hate you at a fundamental level.
>>725491493
This happened in one of my last games, I called him a stupid worthless nigger and hope he kills himself IRL. Still not banned btw as far as I know lmao. Not like I give a fuck because I’m never playing with these sociopathic brown creatures ever again.

>>725491713
but the dummies can't seethe at you when you ask them to open their mouths and make a spit sound in the downed state

>>725491713
Stop being such obvious prey. Assume anyone with their gun out is a threat until they holster it and leave you alone then you leave in a hurry for good measure. You must be a deaf dumbass if you get snuck up on so often. Why just take the extra time to acknowledge other players as threats instead always assuming they can't possibly hurt you?

>>725491786
I accept your concession.

>>725491786
>get in elevator
>other player doesn't holster their weapon as they walk into the room
They deserve to be shot.

>>725487539
kek

>>725491918
What? I’m not playing shitty tryhard sweatfest simulator with your cocksucking ass faggot. Theres nothing to concede.
“Eat shit, fuck off”
Like, thats it. You suck and I’m going to do everything I can to ruin this thing that you love.
Simple as.

>>725490931
this is peak 30 yr old boomer

>>725492019
You deserve to be shot.

>>725492193
Uh oh, big man saying edgy things on Anonymous Basket Weaving forum! Hope you slip in the show and break your neck, nigger. Is that what you wanted, kiddo?

>>725492117
lol, seethe

>PvPvE game
>look inside
>actually just PvP
Every time.

>>725483171 (OP)
It feels a little unfinished. I bet the game will be even better in a year or two considering how much they improved The Finals since release.

>>725483376
>9 raids out of 10 you die a few seconds after you spawn and in the rest you get kiled by a camper at the extraction
sounds like you're on 3rd world servers (north or south america)

not playing the current fotm normgroid streamerslop
simple as

There's some questionable balancing. For example a zipline ("rare" item) is easy to craft and can take you across 60 meters even vertically, while a legendary hookshot can take you 20 meters and uses half your stamina.
Also the "common" gray kettle gun is as good as the best epic/legendaries.

>>725488435
Where

>>725492306
>>725492426
You’re bad “people” and you deserve bad things to happen to you. You waste peoples time, ruin their game, and then mock and harass them.
You truly deserve to be beaten and physically hurt to a severe degree, and I’m not the only person you manifest this response to you.
You will continue being objective dogshit, repugnant and disgusting to pretty much all people on the planet with a soul, and thats why you’re going to lose your cherished sociopath simulator.
Try developing a real skill, I know you don’t think you can, and you’re probably right, but failing in that pursuit would still be more impressive than whatever the fuck this gay shit is.

>>725492525
I really, really hope they add actually strong drones and make it so that raider flares attract all the drones against the kille or some shit, right not the pve is just a joke and you don't even have to think about it before shooting at other players.

Why did the devs put PvP in the game if they view it as a problem? I think it’s because of it was pure PvE it would be boring repetitive slop. This is tarkov 2.0, they either remove PvP and the game dies or they keep it and the game dies. Literal streamer bait slop

>>725484661
Lvl 3 benches require multiple epic mats of big arcs, its literally impossible to finish them with a single kill of each arc

>>725492954
what makes you say they view it as a problem? this game was made as a PVE game and playtests showed it wasn't that interesting.

>>725491895
I bet you haven't had the experience to team up with the whole server to defeat the queen and all extract togheter playing the recorder, hello even just team up with some random folks to take down a lepaer and laught together, you wasted you money by not experiencing the full game and you'll forever be alone and never be truly happy

>>725493103
>>725490141
Just killed leaper, bombardier and bastion in a single run, completely solo just by stacking some grenades, bastions are the easiest way to farm xp and I'm already lvl 67, the PvE is a joke.

>>725493103
Why finish them? My grey tier 1 kettle can kill dumb cunts wearing/carrying blue+gear without issue.
Crafting, fighting arcs, all of it is completely pointless because it it only a noticeable advantage for PvE.

>>725493460
Even then? Not really. The Hullcracker is better than both legendaries in PVE, and both legendaries suck fucking ass in PVP.

>>725492815
You died in a videogame built around both pvp and pve.
It's not that big a deal crybaby

>>725493120
See >>725491003
All those runs I didn't get shot at I hung out with people. I'm simply saying you need to learn to defend yourself instead of blaming niggers all the time.

>>725493802
My time was wasted by worthless brown people, and it made me more racist, and gave me motivation to ruin it for you now.

>>725493103
>>725493356
also even with the voluntary wipes workbenches won't be reset, and big arcs loot is useless for everything else so nobody will even bother to fight them in the future which was the main reason new players teamed up togheter . This game will have 20k players tops by next year.

>>725493460
>players team up to kill boss ARC
>you try to shoot at one of them like a nigger
>his buddies gun you down like the dog you are and rezz him
This has also happened to me.

>>725483171 (OP)
>700 concurrent trannies
where? Game is already in decline

>>725494245
multiple platforms lil gup

>>725483376
Everybody is seeting at this post meanwhile Sea of Thieves had to keep making changes to the PvP side constantly due to bad implementation and balance.

>>725494017
I'm not going to give griefers the joy of a pvp fight, especially if undeserved because they're campers, they'll get tired of shooting mannequins eventually, or I'll change game. It's not difficult.

I am peaceful and will shoot the shit and team up with the homies until someone sounds black on VOIP

>>725494380
they'll do provate instances on this game too eventually, and then an arena mode to appease the PvP fuckers.

>>725494398
>I deliberately played a PvPvE extraction shooter game and now I am mad
Just play a different game autismo

>>725494559
I have 1k+ hours on hunt showdown, great tactical pvp game with some pve elements and I have fun in that., when I want they stuff so play Hunt. This game is different and not marketed to the tarkov or hunt crowd, it has VoIP and pushes player interaction for a reason. If you shoot on sight and don't even use the emote wheel you're griefing and are ruining the game for those that bought it for what the devs promised it offered, otherwise it would have been a simple tarkov clone.

>>725494559
I have 1k+ hours on hunt showdown, great tactical pvp game with some pve elements and I have fun in that, when I want that stuff I play Hunt. This game is different, it has VoIP and pushes player interaction for a reason. If you shoot on sight and don't even use the emote wheel you're griefing and are ruining the game for those that bought it for what the devs promised it offered, otherwise it would have been a simple tarkov clone.

>>725494245
Based retard

>>725495252
Don't blame the players, blame the game. The game allows for brainless PVP and there's no incentive to do PVE when you realize it's all contrived hamster wheel bullshit. The game should reward fighting the robots in groups and discourage deathmatch PVP -- but it doesn't.

>>725495252
It's a poorly designed game, anon. Any game that wasn't overhyped shit would have an incentive to collaborate or at least not kill passive players, but this one does not. 0 reason not to pretend to be friendly then slaughter everyone from the back.

>PvE
You can easily kill almost everything. What you can't, is completely avoidable, I've yet to see this shit placed anywhere that matters.
I don't really feel like there's enough reason to pursue things in this game. Upgrades, blueprints etc. The mortar/spotter Arcs and the Queen are a cool set piece though.
I wonder if ramping up the Arc spawns would improve things. If it was bordering on chaos once you're caught, causing players in the vicinity to sort of HAVE to work together or flee from both the rampant bots and each other.

I like how solos is basically pve with the very occasional rat, everyone is just farming/doing quests and being helpful.

>>725495628
This hasn't been true in like a week.

i've seen streamers who have the yellow icon only active when talking, are they using push to talk? I usually just use toggle at the start of the map. dont wanna hold a button down during a bot fight or whatever.

>>725495628
I shoot on sight unless I'm in a bad position. PVP is a cancer that grows without intervention as more and more people will realize being a carebear is death.

>>725495774
in general people are helpful, squads is where it's constant pvp but i've been trying to level up my benches before messing with that.

>>725483171 (OP)
G O T Y https://litter.catbox.moe/7yos8eawj07kporm.mp4

>>725495574
>It's a poorly designed game
>sucks off hunt
lol

>>725489149
>then you lose the players whose sole goal is to hunt other players
This is a very small minority of players, it just happens to be an extremely vocal one that seems far larger than it is.

>>725496091
Not even the same person, mongoloid

>>725491786
holy mad

>>725495574
betraying someone requires some player interaction at least, shooting on sight and camping extractions/spawns is just unfun and the devs should really try to do something about, arcs should be much stronger and get aggroed by shooting sounds, right now they're basically deaf. Afaik the devs have said the PvP is too much now but haven't said anything else.
>>725495835
at least you admit you're cancer

>>725496254
Sometimes being cancer is how you get PVE fixed. They don't deter griefing so I'll do my part to make them.

>>725496123
if people want lots of pvp, do squads. anyone can shoot you in solos, but you also release a big ass flare and other people know something is up.

>>725496318
You'd have to be deaf not to hear the gunshots. I run to gunfire every time.

>>725496387
well yeah the audio is good and if you hear shots and there are no bots then you know something is up, doesnt take tons of fire to kill the little round bots.

>>725496318
people that want pure PvP can just go play another game really

>>725496486
It's a rarity for a game to facilitate sand castle stomping so readily

>>725483171 (OP)
When the initial hype wave dies down and people start to forget about this game, they will 100% introduce some form of PvE mode. This started as a PvE game and then was refitted into a PvPvE game and it shows. I'm enjoying the PvP, but all the signs are there that a PvE carebear mode will absolutely come at some point, and PvP fags will shit their pants in rage when it does, but keep playing all the same.

>>725496594
tarkov just released on steam and there losing loot is an actual bad experience, PvP in arc raiders is just a collective time waste

>>725496832
Ah you see it's impossible for your zoomer brain to realize that people can do things without a built-in reward system. I shoot you while doing PVE sometimes I get your loot and I always make you mad.

>BRO THE PVP IS SO GOOD
>its just some faggot jumping you from behind
Lmao do arctards really?

>>725496782
pvp fags crying over the possibility of a pve mode just proves they don't care about having good fights but just want easy kills.

>>725496832
tarkov has cheaters and a meta of people camping in grass then you get one tapped

then you have to do inventory simulator which is 100x worse than arc.

So what're the most useful skills to have unlocked?
I'm at lvl 30 and put most of them into movement and stamina since the game is 90'% walking and I like to zoom around fast.
I've read that the in-raid crafting skill can be useful but I literally never use it and forget most of the crafting recipes.

>>725497163
get the one that lets you open security lockers before they nerf it

>>725496947
>your loot
my lvl1 kettle oh no, anyway, let me respawn I need to go get Celeste's fucking journals, some retard shot me while I was strolling in the swamp

>>725485843
>this pvpve game
this argument is such bad faith considering games are notoriously imperfect on release. fuckin congrats that you like it, maybe shut the fuck up and let other people discuss it then. attempting to just shut down discussion is cringe

>>725497163
Bricked
Security lockers is the most OP skill in the game by a mile

>>725496091
>video
why does the game look like shit? And the combat looks borderline non-interactive. Here's some old gears 5 footage for comparison. LMAO

>>725497028
this is the only game they can get kills in, even when there's games with sbmm where everyone is supposed to go 1:1 and games with accessibility aiming where the aim is controlled by the computer

>>725497292
Again, you think it's all about loot. Once upon a time we had a games where you played just to shoot people and loot didn't matter at all. You're so brainrotted by drip feed reward systems.

>>725497163
security lockers is OP, every mal has multiple ones, full of purple loot and they're often uncontested, it'll get nerfed soon

pvp is a thing but the pve is more interesting cause the bot AI is actually good. but it should stay pvp + pve cause the possibility of pvp keeps you on your toes, also it forces people to talk/communicate.

>>725497306
>>725497248
which one is it exactly and why is it OP?
I've only seen a handful of security lockers in the few maps I've played (dam, city, spaceport) and they're all in high-traffic areas

>>725497163
lmao movement skill tree is the most useless. just craft stamina shots they're basically free

>>725497328
>spam F to keep seeing cutscene

>>725497447
PVP ruins bot interactions so funny for you to talk about it. The game would literally be better if they removed PVP and ramped up the bots by 50% and made every match a constant battle of survival and forcing people to work together before getting swarmed.

>Installed
>played an hour with friends
>Realized the game will be just spawning, looting the same 15 junk items, shoot some randos, extract
>Refunded

>>725497354
>we had a games where you played just to shoot people
yes, you got the wrong game, cod bo7 is about to release, have fun

>>725497619
nah I'll keep playing this one lmao and you'll keep being mad about it

>>725497594
in general when there are a shitload of bots, players tend to help other players, rarely people will gank people firing at bots, but it is possible of course.

>>725497550
it fun

Tarkov 1.0 in just a few days! Get ready to die, Arc Raiders!

>>725497612
>installed counterstrike
>played one hour
>realized the game is just about shooting randoms
>uninstalled

>>725497720
or you remove PVP and increase the bot spawn and guarantee this interaction which synergizes with the fucking gimmick

>>725497612
you need to do questing/upgrade stuff, there are goals and the requirements are in the various maps. also, you can track quest/bench stuff so the stuff you need has an icon on it, so you can avoid junk you don't need.

or sell the junk, or recycle.

>>725497749
Yes, at least I know It's a game about shooting randoms 100% of the time.

What's the point in watching the loot animations for the useless crafting items in this? Just play a real shooter instead.

>>725497720
the only pvp retards I've met died to the AI because decided to kill me instead of collaborating

>>725497915
>Dying is the worst thing to happen
For you

>find like 5 trinket items in one room
>instantly extract after
the safe pockets thing is a great idea though, cause if you have something very valuable (ie, blueprint, keys, etc) you keep it no matter what.

>>725497842
just added layers to the game, some people like that, other just keep playing duck hunt for eternity.

>>725497749
Counterstrike doesn't have extra steps between the actual gameplay. Join game, play game. ARC has a bunch of chores for you to do in between the gameplay. Gameplay density issue.

>>725497769
you don't understand the genre
play something else
not every game is for you
now fuck off

>>725497769
they should increase the ARC spawn rate and make them harder

>>725497983
there is no game over screen in this game

>>725490563
Irrelevant. I will stalk you across the map, kill you, and take your shit and Embark wants this to happen

>>725497519
>movement skill tree is the most useless
not really. I put most points into becoming fast since the beta and I refuse to go any slower

I really am fine with PvP.
I just wish there WAS a reason NOT to. A reward. Risk doesn't matter; I don't care about dying, I use free loadouts anyways and will continue to do so between basic bitch loadouts every other run (if I die) so that I can take advantage of some safe slots. Ferro and Kettle gape all asses.

>>725483171 (OP)
fine shill me this game, what makes it different compared to say tarkov??

>>725498517
it's a real game
it's fun
better maps
more immersive visuals/sound
it's a real game

>>725498068
because the chores are also part of the gameplay, some people like that, it's what you get in the package, I'm sorry it's not just pew pew shoot shoot, there's plenty of games like that already, but don't be surprised if not everyone is like that

>>725498276
embark already said the PvP is too much and will work to fix that

nexon shill threads are so fucking obvious

>>725498361
no skill makes you faster and the one that makes you roll further is either bugged or the gain so minuscule it's imperceptible

I never craft anything and just do free loadouts and loot other players, kek
Your dead body is my crafting bench

>>725498725
kys

>>725498517
it's actually fun and user friendly, in tarkov you're relieved when you manage to extract, in arc you're happy and have fun whether you extract or die to a rocket, campers are the only nuisance currently

>>725499014
>ARCRaiders_ThankYou700KCCU.jpg

you're brown and a shill for a dogshit game

>>725498845
literally 90% of player do this, the only ones that spawn with gear are either noobs or ultra rich people, there's no reason not to use a free loadout currently

>>725498835
>no skill makes you faster
faster climbing, more stamina and faster stamina regain do allow you to cover a more ground in a shorter time

>>725499106
cope

>medium shields
>went from health to dead within 1second by pistol 20meters away
Yeah that's a report

>>725499239
Venator is OP and needs to be nerfed.

>>725499204
climbing a bit faster is really not that game changing and stamina is easily dealt with adrenaline shots like I said earlier. Admit it, you're just coping because you wasted your points and there's not respec.

>>725499443
>stamina is easily dealt with adrenaline shots
True but I like to have space for other items.
>coping because you wasted your points
Wasted how? Can't I level up and put them into other skills?

Tryhard rank demotes you at 80> and you need 20< to get double ranked up, this shit is gonna be extremely fucking sweaty by the end of the season and I won't be able to cope.

There's something about this game, feeding a dark urge within me... I just gotta say it, equipment feels better when it's not yours

while I think the events are neat and trial stuff is kind of cool I already don't really know what to do. I can slaughter people for their gear but my stash is 24/7 full anyway and I'm rich beyond my dreams with nothing to buy.

Why don’t any of these games ever implement a reputation system worth half a damn?
Make it so that if you clearly see someone you have some rough idea of if they’re ruthless, cooperative, or unpredictable.

>>725500191
the game has ranks and seasons? lol...why?

>>725500950
Epeen, of course.

>>725497594
It would not surprise me if they did eventually add a mode that disabled PvP and increased ARC spawns. Kind of like Fortnite Zero Build mode. It would have wider appeal. I know I would prefer it
but I also don't really care about the PvP; I know it's one of the points of the genre. I wouldn't be playing this game period if it weren't for my friends anyways

should i buy this? ill mostly be playing solo and the only game ive played like this is duckov

>>725500882
Because as a human you have the very ability to suss people out for acting strange. It's called intuition. Are you an honest to god NPC?

>>725501768
>It would not surprise me if they did eventually add a mode that disabled PvP and increased ARC spawns.

Anyone who says this shit has no idea how the fucking game came about. It was originally a PvE game that the devs felt was "too boring" so they converted it into a PvPvE game. They said after playing for a few days you got used to the robots and they stopped being a threat at all without the addition of a random factor like other players.

>>725483171 (OP)
I've said it before but games like this are the future for MMORPGs as long as it has fun PVE mixed with pvp.
not exactly the extraction part though but the added stakes does make it addicting.

>killed a guy who lied to someone saying they were friendly
>no defib to help the other guy
I hope I don't get put into the PvP-fag queue now.

>>725502525
That's why it would just be a single mode instead of the entire game. The PvPvE mode would still be front and center.

>>725502692
I think it makes more sense for the to exclusively focus on PvPvE since that's the fucking game. Never capitulate to PvE gamerdads. Not without charging them 60 bucks (more than the game) as a stupidity tax.

>>725500735
lucky for you, random bullshit items like Cooling Fans and Lightbulbs are exceedingly rare so those will take forever if you choose to do the expedition

>>725483171 (OP)
>700k CCU
>everyone is afraid that a PVE only mode would "split the playerbase"

>>725498712
no they didn't you're hallucinating again

>>725499174
green loadouts are just free loadouts with a safe pocket. when it takes so much luck to get a fucking mushroom, you better be able to shove it in your asshole for safekeeping.
there's no reason to use free loadouts unless you are literally destitute and completely broke. the free loadouts literally become free green kits

>>725500950
hats
this outfit+color scheme is "top 100" which sounds fucking insane if it's actually global top 100, the finals had similarly insane rewards
imagine the respect you'd get if ue5 wasn't a blurry mess

>>725503179
The expedition is already over. Those items aren't even remotely fucking rare. You can get all of your cooling fans from just ripping server racks on blue gate from the like 10 data houses or w/e. Light bulbs are all over the houses in buried city as well.

>>725503348
Happened to tarkov, it would happen here. Either gitgud or gtfo. If only 1% of the PvE babs tough it out that's better than 0%.

i will never play without a pve mode, its that simple

>>725504107
>cooling fans from just ripping server racks
yeah, like 1/20 servers has one
>Light bulbs are all over the houses in buried city
I'll try this since they sure as shit dont spawn at Power locations like the game claims
a green trinket. I have found more mixtapes than these fucking things

>>725504276
pve mode would suck. theres like two interesting AI enemies, the leaper and the queen.

>>725504558
because shoot on sight or shot in the back is such a better experience

is this decent as a primary or is it considered cheese? dont mind the traits

>>725504597
yes. unless they crank out some cool monsters, its way more fun fighting humans.

>>725504201
no one wants to be free kills for pvp tranny faggots tho

Same reason trammel was > fel in UO only pvp tranny losers care about playing meta murder simulator on newbie players

>>725498123
No it sounds like you’re just dumb as fuck and cant even articulate why your shitty pvp is good, actually.

>>725505143
nta but its good because its varied and dynamic. nobody gives a fuck if you like it or not. play something else.

>>725505338
Eat shit nigger, I will continue to sit here and bitch as well as do it on the steam forums too. I’m literally never going away until pve only is added.
And when it is, I probably wont even play it. I just want to ruin it for you.

>>725505454
>I will continue to sit here and bitch
get well soon

>>725505537
I will once pve is added because no one wants to play with niggers like you.

>>725504506
>yeah, like 1/20 servers has one
It's about 1/8 for me, but even still there are upwards of 50+ servers all over blue gate. My biggest issue was motors from cars.

>>725504835
Option B then. It's fine to want a completely different experience than what's provided. It's not fine to fuck up an existing experience because you're a little bitchboy.

>>725505143
AI is nowhere near advanced enough to provide a challenge to anything other than literal children. People are dynamic and ruthless in a way that AI cannot be. I prefer hunting man, not machine. Same reason people don't hunt bears with 50 cals.

>>725483171 (OP)
Shroud won

>>725504014
>if only you knew how bad things really are

>>725505584
700k people do, actually.

>>725488127
Games only ever really ban for teaming if you're clearly deliberately trying to get into the same matches and work together with people you know beforehand which is pretty easy for them to figure out. He probably saw someone get banned for trying to be a streamer's buttbuddy, especially given that Apex doesn't have proximity chat so teaming up organically is incredibly rare.

>>725506435
Actually most people don't do PVP so it's not really an indication of how much they want it. But what really speaks loudly is how mad you get when PVE only is brought up because you know a huge portion of people would elect into it.

>>725497769
You can increase the bot spawn by making loud noises. You're complaining about something that is not only already in the game, but one of the most legitimate tactics to gaining an edge in PvP situations. /v/ does not play video games.

>>725502289
Go for it. I play perfect stealth pacifist and enjoy long tense hikes through brush and long hallways, finding shortcuts and unexpected routes. Feels good. There's a few tips that make it a bit too easy but you should figure those out after the thrill.

>>725506491
Everybody I shoot at shoots back. Maybe you should go back. Oh wait, even that shithole literally bans you for posting anti-PvP garbage! You literally have no leg to stand on. Play a different fucking game or start posting with a trip so you're easier to filter.

PVE faggots need to be executed for being autistic retards. There's a 100% chance if you're a "muh pve mode" faggot you have autism, and you probably like little anime girls. Get fucked faggots I hope they never add the game mode and start banning all topics on the steam forums pertaining to it.

seems like sweats hate the idea of a pve mode. why?

>>725506894
Play a different game. You're not welcome here.

>>725506894
I actually don't care people whining for it are just annoying. It's the same sort of faggots who go to a famous steakhouse and order the salad or some shit. Fuck you retard.

That said if they do add pve mode they should buff the Arcs 3x to balance it out. Or make it so you can't bring pve gear to the regular mode.

this game has insane levels of skill based and gear based matchmaking and I wish more people talked about it
>entire lobbies are people running down flares and extracts
>fights devolve into whoever can venator triple tap first because the gun is hotfix levels of overpowered
>smash and grab security lockers for loot so you can go do it again

it's just not fun. the balancing and netcode are too shit for pvp.
t. 3000+ hours in tarkov and hunt

Game? You mean a microphone with a controller on it? Frfr no cap

I really don't understand people who play games like this then whine that there's PvP in it. Half the fun of working together is even precisely the fact that there's no guarantee the other guy won't try to shoot you and take all your shit right before extraction. It's any other co-op game without that. I guess I don't really understand this board's autistic fear and hate of PvP nowadays in general though.

>>725507023
>skill based
>in a game with no skill
interesting

>>725507172
they are retarded. they are actual, legitimately sub 100 IQ fucking morons who cannot imagine that not every game needs to directly cater to their whims.
I'm sure its the same idiots who said Helldivers 2 needed a PvP mode "or else the game's going to die in a month"

I wish pug squads put you in a lobby instead of just dropping you in with a bunch of strangers. That way you could adjust your kit to reflect if you're playing with a bunch of no mic free kits or some actually competent people.
I think that's why I'm enjoying solo a bit more right now, pug squads are just too much of a gamble. It's dope when you find chill people though.

The Division solved this, players that attack other players are declared Rogue Agents and other players are incentivized to kill them for personal gain. Also locks you out from extracting where you were camping, if you were and forces you to pick another point.
https://youtu.be/cAUIRzgEkX8

FUCK

>>725506894
>whaah whaah I want pve
>*plays the game for 2 hours never touches it again after*
I don't think there's a single example of pve game which lasted more than 6 months. Even Helldivers 2 is dead. What's the point if no one actually plays pve?

>>725506935

they are in their own seperate mode, away from you guys though?
>>725507502
how does this effect you?

>>725507023
Netcode is pretty shit. And Im just fighting bots. Everyone can see the delay between hitting and recoil.

What happened to the Tarkov general?

>>725507502
the issue is people begging for PvE WANT to play the game for a few weeks to a month and then drop it. They want to buy 20-30 of these things a fucking year and barely play them so they can TALK ABOUT THEM. They just want to be part of the conversations, they don't actually enjoy videogames half the time.

>>725507531
case in point.

>>725507502
Game was a glorified proof of concept, a very pretty one at that but there was nothing there. I do hope in a year or so they get more into it.

>>725507468
>The Division solved this, players that attack other players are declared Rogue Agents and other players are incentivized to kill them for personal gain.
Nah that's fucking gay. I like not knowing if someone is a killer or not. Had an instance earlier today where I found someone looting a dead body and they claimed that they were attacked first and won the fight. Couldn't take the risk and killed them. That shit's fucking sick, it'd be gay as fuck if they had a "bounty" on them that answered that question for me.
>Also locks you out from extracting where you were camping, if you were and forces you to pick another point.
I'm okay with this I guess.

>>725507624
>case in point.
WAH THEY WANT TO PLAY A GAME THEIR WAY THEY ARE SUPPOSED TO BE FODDER FOR ME TO SWEAT ON SHROUD PLS NOTICE ME WAAAAAH

>>725507792
Play a different game anon. The solution already exists. You just want to bitch. Just leave.

>>725506935
>be normalfaggot playing FOTM streamerslop
>tells others they aren't welcome here
kek

>>725507915
Bad news friend, as much as you want to larp as a /v/ user multiplayer friendslop is genuinely the most popular shit here. You're not "one of us" because you're a loser who can't handle communicating with people and having fun in multiplayer games.

>>725507832
your game is going to be a Shooting a Fish in a Barrel simulator and its going to get old after awhile.
Your game wont evolve and you will also get bored being a rat faggot shooting people in the back.
Your FOTM will die like every other extraction shooter unless they find a way to balance a way for a larger group of people who will most likely buy your MTX cosmetics.

>>725507531
>how does this effect you?
I'd prefer if developers didn't waste their time working on features for 1% pve autists instead of improving the game for vast majority of players who has no issue with pvp.

Yellow and red outlined places on the map are bait, aren't they.

Slop sisters.... please give me a pve mode where I can only fight the same 10 npc robots so I can max out my setup and quit the game for next quarter's FOTM....

>>725508151
think a good 70% playin this shit is because mr big time streamer plays it so they are just following whatever dogshit opinion they give to keep their channel relevant and popular

>>725508227
I never get shit in those areas even if I'm the first in, but the outskirts net me some crazy loot. It's weird.

>>725508228
>pvpve game
>lets just focus on pvp players
yeah that will go over well.
lets keep the meta stale forever. lets never introduce another PVE enemy to switch things up

>>725507721
It's not a permanent mark, it's just you get 'hot' after killing someone until you can extract with their loot or wait out the rogue status, iirc it was like a 5 min timer at the worst rank where you are marked to everyone and pulse on the minimap every few secs. You also stand to drop more of YOUR gear if you get killed while Rogue, so players that choose to engage and kill other players in the Dark Zone have to weigh their options; yeah you can ambush a group of two while they're busy fighting NPCs and take their shit but now you've got a target on your back and a larger death penalty for 2-5 mins and need to make an escape plan on the fly. People that want to hunt other players can specifically farm a set that hides them from the minimap pulse to negate this effect so everyone wins, they sacrifice meta gear for a noob-hunting set and risk getting stomped by a better-geared group. IDK it's not perfect but I feel like Arc Raiders kind of lacks that balance in its' PvPvE environment, though, the game is in its' infancy so I am sure in time they will sort something out.

>devs introduce PVE mode
>people use the noise maker grenades to aggro swarms of ARC on friendly players then pick at the remains like a vulture several minutes later
>Have fun :^)

>>725508249
Seethe and cope. This game is not for you. Go play Kirby Air Riders or something.

>>725508371
Why do you hate Kirby though

>>725508340
You didn't even refute his point. You made up some other point that wasn't posted then argued against that instead.

>>725506837
Lol that wasnt even me stupid nigger. Go check the steam forums, more than half the player base hates you, and we’re going to siphon off all your easy kills into their own mode, and you’ll be left playing with other sociopaths like yourself. See ya in the next thread, stupid cunt!

>>725508041
>we love friendslop here
sure "we" do, do we also love gacha because thirdies spam their threads all day?
>because you're a loser who can't handle communicating with people and having fun in multiplayer games.
yep, it's a normalfaggot. I'd rather kms then have to communicate with over-socialised faggots like you just to play a shallow dogshit console game. I don't even own a microphone.
>You're not "one of us"
correct, I'm not whatever you are.

>>725497726
first time i see a funny gears of war clip, feels like it came from tf2

>>725508060
>your game is going to be a Shooting a Fish in a Barrel simulator and its going to get old after awhile.

Not really. People improve, you adapt. Robots stay exactly the fucking same and you abuse that. You just aren't very good at videogames and can't see that.

ive been having a field day with the hush puppy gun, a lot of people think its garbage

>>725508664
>steam forums
lol. lmao.

Games just the standard third person shooter, not buying or playing it sry

>>725508798
Scared to look?

>>725508781
Mostly just that it does terrible damage to arcs and shoots a bit too slow to win a gunfight against someone actively shooting back. Realistically your gun doesn't matter if you get the drop on someone which is kind of where it shines. For the same cost you can just bring a stitcher and wipe squads with it.

>>725508891
regen prompt

>>725508340
>lets never introduce another PVE enemy to switch things up
humanoid robots are coming in the next map but that is irrelevant, pvp is the staple of the game. dont like it, go play forever winter.

They should just make a raid mode for pve faggots, and thats that

>>725508408
People playing tendie games in their 30s are equivalent of disney adults. Literally mental illness.

is there even a ton of pve in the game in the first place? is there enough enemy presence where it is a constant obstacle or do people just ignore it?

>>725509176
The robots are all largely solvable obstacles that you can avoid 90% of the time. They only factor they play is that they investigate loud sounds (gunfights) and depending on your kit you might get swamped out in the open. Every if you're being chased by like 900 robots you can hide in a house where virtually none of them can enter and will completely lose aggro by staying out of sight for more than 30 seconds.

The only "threat" robots have explosive attacks so you just give them a wide berth. Otherwise you cheese them around corners or with explosive spam. They all have big "shoot me here" weakpoints that you can kill with even the shittiest guns so once you understand their patterns they're just a pile of scrap for you to loot though. Most people fight bots because they're completing weekly trials.

>Some gook approaches me with poor af english accent
>Ask for wires
>Immediately some him with my bolt action
>Starts speaking in moonrunes
>Mock his shitty language
>He gets even angrier and I can now hear him hitting his desk

Best game, 10/10

>>725509176
Nah. You occasionally kill off a few small robots in interiors, or a few flying bots in any scavenging areas (mostly the snitches because they have a big vision cone and alert other bots).
Everything else is comically easy to avoid, but the "incentive" is that they have materials that are needed for high tier weapons and workshop upgrades.
But that matters fuck all anyways - high tier gear is worthless.

>>725509478
>high tier gear is worthless.
its hard because i like the starter guns being good. if high tier gear just shit on everyone else, thats giga gay.

>>725483376
>griefers
You are a retarded faggot but the spawn thing is a real problem. It should never be optimal to open up a map on google and tthe second you spawn start sprinting sideways to the closest spawn.

I feel like the robots are not enough and not big of a threat, also is it true they "learn" or is it another situation with FEAR where they think the AI is amazing?

>>725483497
Nah. Kettle and bind fire to mousewheel, wins against some weapons even if they shoot first.

>>725509648
I kind of agree. It's just a fucked situation. This whole genre just sucks ass, I fucking hate it, but it's still enjoyable enough with my dipshit friends who for some reason really like it.

>>725509801
yeah i wanted to ask about how the pve is because i figured if they went way harder with the pve, it would be a little more than what i've seen with extraction shooters(avoid enemies easily and just shoot players)

and to think fromsoft is going to make a fuckin extraction shooter souls game for switch 2.

>>725507468
obfuscating points of data is kind of interesting though. Never knowing if you're surrounded by killers or not.

>>725505143
>i don't like this game
>i will continue to cry about how i don't like this game while continuing to play it until the devs who created this wildly successful game change their wildly successful game to make it less like the thing that made it wildly successful
you literally sound like a tranny

>>725509948
I'm definitely in the camp of "tune the robots up by at least 33%" or otherwise make alerts WAY more dangerous but also more rewarding, potentially also incentivizing cooperation. I actually DO enjoy fighting them. I think they're conceptually interesting, I like the physics they have, and the sound design is great, especially the Bombadier.
But they feel like an afterthrough right now, which is really sad when the game was, apparently, originally PvE.

>>725510417
they need to increase by 50% the arc on each map, and 5x the total max possible arc
and decrease the total player count to like 10 for solos
also make these fuckers spawn way more often
literally one of the most fun and awesome AI enemies in any game

>>725510417
that might be nice but seeing clips of streamers complaining about having to fight robots also probably influences them to not touch it as much

from what it seems people just want it to be another BR.

>>725510549
Leapers are pure kino, fucking spastic retards.

>>725510549
Leapers are one of the least threatening robots mostly because of their retarded movement and complete lack of any ranged attacks.

>>725510710
>complete lack of any ranged attacks
nigga they ARE ranged attacks

>>725510758
Not really. Maybe if you blatantly shoot them out in the open but they just jump over to you and unless you stand still like a fucking retard, that's it.

>>725510549
>and decrease the total player count to like 10 for solos
shit take

anyone play this on xbox? might buy it on there if my computer cant run it well with a 1070 ti as much as people have claimed they can on medium settings.

only thing i might not like is inventory management with a controller but maybe i can hook up a mkb anyway

>>725510991
there's just too many players for the map size
to have a game with the same number of players in trios as solos is retarded because how does it make sense to have say 7 groups on one map and then 21 solos on the same map

>>725511142
because regardless of how many players leave the map, it's still getting backfilled for 15 minutes. If anything there should be substantially MORE solo players then trios/duo squads and they should be forced into games with duos/squads at about a 3:2:1 ratio to make people more willing to team up for PvP.

>>725511330
>they should be forced into games with duos/squads
that's retarded
it's hp bar based there's no subdivision of head/torso/limb damage so mismatched squads is literally never a fair or fun fight like it can be in tarkov
you're just saying a bunch of shit without a single justification

>>725511543
what? I just gave you the justification you blind retard. I want people to team up, organically, to fight bigger groups of players.

Is freekitting looked down on?

>>725511142
>there's just too many players for the map size
not even. its just the players swarm to the high loot areas but 10? youd never meet anybody. even now i meet maybe one to three raiders in my raids. reduce it any further and that would feel so empty and dead which isnt the point for a pvevp game.

>>725511608
No, it's the bread and butter for the game if you aren't concerned about having a safe slot. Grey tier freebie weapons perform perfectly well, perhaps too well.

how big is the map? is it rng?

>>725511670
i swear i see 2-4 players at every extract just trying to get out
i couldn't tell you how many times i waited at extract for one or more people to leave before calling it myself
plus the fewer players, the more distance between players on spawn
running into another player a minute into the raid when you both have no fucking loot to fight over is lame
spread players out and make it so you don't run into someone until you both have something worth fighting over or something to lose
it's a third person shooter, the pvp isn't exactly the best gunplay, that's not the reason the pvp is fun

>>725511834
There's a few, they're all pretty big. Not big enough to be annoying without vehicles, not small enough to just get murder hobo's the second you step into the sun.

>>725511765
If you were able to swap augments mid raid, sure. As it stands there is 0 reason to go in with a freekit compared to just using the scrap you get from the chicken every round to make a shield, one gun, a green backpack, and ammo/meds/nades.There is no incentive to use a freekit past being genuinely too lazy to equip items.

>>725510171
I’m not playing this dogshit anymore lmao, follow the bouncing ball dumb fucker. You niggers ruin the experience of thousands of players, I’m going to ruin your game now.

>>725511592
Thats fucking retarded, randoms would never do that, they'd just not play instead.
Pvp niggers have sub 30 IQ.

To the duo I ingloriously murdered with my bare hands while you were downed and crawling towards the elevator button, I am sorry. Things got out of hand

>>725506837
Yeah no one is going to sit back and die when you shoot at them, but many will prefer to not fight at all. But I'll admit I love taking your scalp, I'm pretty chill but I win 80% of my duels.

>>725511592
Synduality had a really good system for teaming up with eachother
it's a shame that the game was solo only and you couldn't play with your bros

>>725513365
You're misconstruing cowardly PvE gamerdads and people whoa re charisma vacuums. It's a venn diagram for sure but plenty of people team up to murder other people in other extraction shooters, other pvp games, etc.

>>725484139
It very much is

>>725513947
K keep me posted

dead in 2 months

>>725514457
we need to stop having forever games holy shit
if you get 2 months of play time that should be good

>>725514570
bait? holy shit..

>>725483632
>simply because i want it
Women HATE this guy

>pvp cucks would literally rather kill their game than admit their cancerous garbage is bad
Lmao

>>725514624
once upon a time we played games because they were fun and stopped playing them when they weren't and if you get 100 hours out of game that was good
the problem is you zoomers think one game is a lifestyle and then spend $1000 on it
kill yourself

>>725514781
Killing people IS fun anon. I paid 40 bucks for tarkov 9 years ago and I'm STILL playing it. A majority of my time in L4D/TF2 was playing versus, didn't spend more money in those games either. Time to realize you just suck at videogames and are coping because you're either old or a genuine loser who can't make friends online anymore (if you could before).

>>725514864
okay and why are you here and not playing tarkov?

>>725514995
because Tarkov stopped being fun 7 years ago

>>725515039
so 9 years isn't relevant then

>pve cucks would literally rather kill the game than admit the tension between players is the appeal
Kekkle

still waiting the game to go on 50% off sales.

>>725515057
>the tension between players is the appeal
Nah, I'm having fun just playing duckov.

>>725514864
>if you don’t enjoy sweating it out with 18 year olds you’re le bad at videogaymes!
Nah I think you’re just an arrogant stupid cocksucker though.

>>725515057
How is helldivers alive then? And why did it peak so hard?

>>725515329
>alive

It was sub 15k, with all consoles included with the PC player base. Grim.

>>725483171 (OP)
>get jumped by a faggot using THE balaclava skin
>they talk
>its a nigger
Like clockwork, what causes this?

>>725484139
I mean ghost of yotei sold like 3.3 mil

>>725514995
Tarkov 1.0 is in 4 days. I'm in arc raiders to fill the gap until wipe.

>>725515402
Let’s see where arc raiders is in a couple years then.
It’ll have a pve mode by then, but still.

>>725515673
So you spent $40 for 2 weeks lmao

>>725515431
What if I told you it wasn’t cultural?

>>725515764
The game is so obviously made for PVE, the gimmick is PVE, there's going to be a new FOTM PVP game within 6 months that will remove all the PVP players that demanded PVPVE in the first place. The problem with the game is the PVE could be streamlined and the robots turned into raid encounters every map.

>>725515804
? The game doesn't turn into a pumpkin after tarkov wipes. Do you only play a single videogame at a time???

I feel like I'm taking fucking crazy pills here, why are people complaining about PVP in a PVP game?

>>725484139
It is, helldivers 2 mogged this friendslop and look at where that game is now.

>>725516417
might be the lack of pve stuff in the pvpve game

>>725483171 (OP)
I noticed this game on reveal in 2021 and tried to make threads about it and they were all ignored

>>725516417
>he posted the disingenuous argument again

>>725516932
that's when it was pve, I'm glad testers recognized it as the trash it was instead of hugboxing the devs

>>725517143
What the fuck do you mean "He posted again" I just got here. I'm just genuinely trying to understand the appeal of this game, I played the open server test and was bored out of my fucking mind

>>725516932
Looks better than people hiding and taking peek shots in third person. Looks a lot fucking better actually.

>The only two times I get ganked today is during extraction
>And only when I'm carrying blue weapons found during the match
And you guys literally got nothing out of it because the doors were already closing.
Screw you, you're actually the worst.

>>725517262
Nigger shut the fuck up, fuck off, you don’t matter. Fucking stupid jew, eat shit.

>>725517267
>>725517171
I thought it was maybe gonna be like EDF at the time

>>725517335
Do you need me to call your handlers for you? I'm whiter than you'll ever be.

>>725517394
Not if you like this dogshit sociopath simulator you brown disgusting freak. White people don’t take pleasure in griefing and fucking over peaceful randoms - thats a jew thing.
Again, eat shit, and light yourself on fire you piece of shit.

>>725516417
It was advertised, as a game where the major threat is the robots, with the risk and tensity of PvP at the side.
The major threat is not the robots. The robots aren't even a threat at all. They're barely more than set dressing.

>>725517493

me and my entire favela hop on American and European servers to grief you crackas
see you at the extraction white boy, I'll be hiding behind a bush

>>725517493
>Not if you like this dogshit sociopath
I LITERALLY just said I found it boring as fuck, you illiterate mentally ill mongoloid

>>725483171 (OP)
hahahaha wait a minute wait a minute....
you want FORTY DOLLARS
ahahah wait wait wait
FORTY DOLLARS
for a ... ahahahah hold on ahahah for a... for a...
fotm streamer marketed extraction shooter???
ahahazahaaahahaAHAHAhahAHAHAa

Shan't!

>>725490023
I’ve never been extract camped by even a single other raider. The only time I rage out is when people pretend to be friendly just to shoot you once your back is turned but even that has been pretty rare. Most people who are hostile just start blasting as soon as they see you.

>>725516932
hmm, this game should have a large squad mode with 7-10 people and 10x robot spawns like this trailer

>>725516417
The biggest issue with pvp right now is that the starter guns are way too good so there’s no real incentive to go to the trouble of putting together your best loadout when someone can spawn in with a free kit and melt you with the starter SMG.

>>725483689
I still get so surprised by the absolutely stupid shit people say on this site, while pretending they know what they're talking about. The guns you get in a free load-out can't even kill someone through a blue shield in a single clip, never mind a purple shield. The Ferro is horrific for 1v1s. The Rattler is already probably the worst gun in the game and at level 1 it has 10 bullets. It can't even kill a green shield player in one clip, etc...

Then you have retards like this >>725483376 who aren't even playing the game.

I really don't care about "MUH FRIENDLIES!" but the PVP in this game is fucking ass. It almost seems completely arbitrary over who downs who first in a 1v1.

>>725517586
Not even close to true.

>>725483171 (OP)
>third person PvPvE extraction shooter
Doesn't the third person camera make it too easy for people to camp near extraction sites and just peak around walls for easy targets?

>>725518424
if the pvp was good people wouldn't want to be friendly

>>725518119
The starter guns are straight up garbage against blue shields or better. You will absolutely get your head kicked in if you run into someone with a venator or an anvil or basically any upgraded gun that isn't a piece of crap.

>>725518518
If people want to be friendly why is every thread just retards bitching about being killed when they tried to be friendly?

>>725518650
people are bitching about the anti mechanic that is pvp that makes the pve stupid

>>725518650
ganking isnt pvp, im talking about fighting something that shoots back not a loot pinata

>>725518708
The PvE exists to impact the PvP, not the other way around. They made the game PvE to begin with and the devs themselves said it was boring. Now they've made it PvP and it's hugely successful.

>>725518779
That's what 2-3 man lobbies are. They're 99% kill on sight and people enjoy it.

>>725518283
>I still get so surprised by the absolutely stupid shit people say on this site, while pretending they know what they're talking about. The guns you get in a free load-out can't even kill someone through a blue shield in a single clip, never mind a purple shield.

God I love stupid dipshit retards like you.

>>725518864
I've had more friendlies on team games than solo, it's pretty well balanced actually and I'm perfectly happy with the current arrangement.

>>725483497
I use free loadouts 90% of the time. Usually can find what I need out on the surface. It's also a nice, "fuck you" to people who just want to PvP and steal loot.

>>725518995
Nothing in the graph contradicts what I said.

>>725518515
Yes.

>>725519172
Here i'll zoom in for you grandpa.

>>725519172
Do you need some big red circles too you knuckledragging cockshiner?

>>725519172
dumbass

>>725519225
The sticher 1 has 20 bullets and is one of the most innaccurate short range guns in the entire game that you are forced to spray. Your argument is really "well TECHNICALLY it only needs 17 body shots to kill someone"?

The quests are so fucking annoying bros...It sucks that they're planning on adding even more, I don't give a fuck about any of these weird ass characters they made, the setting is cool but all of these characters sound like they have the obnoxious kind of autism

>>725519172
>>725518283
>>725519327
This is the part where you delete your posts and vanish into the fucking ether you ratfuck.

there's no reason to run free kits unless you ran out of augs, bandaids and shield charge. every successful free run brings you the gun back so you can upgrade it and every free kit can be promoted at the clinic for free.
>>725497163
>So what're the most useful skills to have unlocked?
nearly all of them are worthless, especially if you're in a party. All of the capstone skills are bad. Security breach is a point tax only 1 player needs to take. The only good skills are stamina discount, max stamina, conditional stamina regen (NOT WALKING OR CROUCHING) and weight related ones. Mobility in particular is bad past 11 points. I think the devs made most of the skills bad on purpose so there isn't a huge difference between high leveled players and low leveled players.

>>725490563
>you get nothing by killing other players
I got a nice epic gun and a couple blueprints off of one guy, that's something

>>725483632
Every "bloodthirsty chad" I've ever met was a gigantic faggot that was the worst member of my friend groups. Absolutely insufferable shitters.

>>725519480
5 points in the "reduced movement penalty for shields" is an essential talent if you plan on ever using purple shields. But yeah, most talents barely do anything other than that and security breach.
>>725519352
Being called a rat by the guy running and dying to free kits. Ironic.

Bottom line it should feel fun to shoot people and be fun to get shot at. This is the baseline for every good pvp shooter ever made.

>>725519572
Some people just enjoy being hated. Honestly, you need faggots to exist for these typse of games to thrive. They are part of the ecosystem.

>>725519670
Both are true of this game. Apart from when I'm getting ran down by some meta slave running a Venator IV. That's the only time I'm not having fun being shot at.

>duo with buddy
>wipe trios of freeks because they think they can actually do anything with dogshit guns against medium shields and grenade spam
yeah dude there's no point in using anything but free loadouts. please continue looting the entire map and start firefights with gearheads

>>725519843
I got a jolt mine in one of my free kits, they can surprise you

>>725519843
Best part is when they had some good blueprint or something they couldn't shove up their ass because they're on a free loadout. My only real problem with the game currently is playing Duos and getting put against Trios in general. Even if you kill a trio, which is possible, it's very hard to deal with the next trio that 3rd parties you after you kill the first one. Proper Duo servers would make the game so much more fun. Duos lobbies are always the best.

>>725518995
Interesting to see how little extra survival the blue/purple shields really give. Realistically though there's no way you're hitting 19 out of 20 shots with the stitcher's recoil.

According to the graph in practice you're going to need to reload at least once to kill someone with a blue shield. Someone with two upgraded/modded weapons is going to kill you before that if they aren't absolute shit even if you get the drop on them.

>>725483171 (OP)
>concurrent players
but how many sales is that?

>>725520080
>Someone with two upgraded/modded weapons is going to kill you before that if they aren't absolute shit even if you get the drop on them.
i've won a stupid amount of fights going melee after an opening volley because the spaghetti dropping animation of pulling out a stitcher is so long

>>725520131
like 3 million at least

>>725484271
>You "chads" will cry once the new players and easy preys will all leave after dying the 100th time while doing a simple quest, minding their own buisness and being friendly, (which is something the game actively encourages and is marketed around) and the only ones left will be the sweatlords that ruin every PvP game.
while you are technically correct, the point of extraction shooters as a genre is to appeal to burnt out fps junkies looking to ride the pain train by gambling their own ability to have fun in the game
that's why anyone with a brain could have told these companies that trying to force it as a mainstream genre was never going to work

>>725520080
Or just shoot them in the fucking head. Headshots do 2.5x damage on every gun. If two of your stitcher shots hit the head, you only need 10 bodyshots to finish the job. If you want to be even more pedantic, the grey light mag is craftable from the get-go and gives it 5 more bullets. The stitcher is one of the easiest guns to control in close range, I don't know why people are saying otherwise. It absolutely shits on people within 20 feet, which is where an overwhelming majority of fights are going to take place if you're aggressive.

People act like you're stitchering people from rooftops or something retarded. Gunfights are all corner pushes and doorways on 90% of the mapspace that players actually want to be.

arpeggio remains the best gun since it has 0 recoil though. You can just 6tap people in the head with two clicks at any range and it's over before they can even realize they're taking damage.

>>725515243
>>725515329
>talking about other games
The appeal of THIS game. You niggers. Go play OTHER game.

where do all these live service shooters keep coming from

>>725519670
its a pvpve game though
i think there should be so many instances of people being busy with pve stuff that pvp stuff should be something that happens with insane downtime only and not tryin to treat this game like its another fuckin BR

How do you feel about the stash being immediately and constantly full?

>>725521046
I just wish some things had a slightly higher stack size

>>725521040
We are already at that point due to lack of pve content.

>>725483171 (OP)
What's with the rainbow

>>725521040
I matched with some military dudes earlier today, didn't start out PvP hunting but it ended that way. A revenge hunt more like. We found two trio's just being awful to some newbies. We stalked and killed each one in melee. They never saw it coming. Felt amazing. I don't mind PvP when it feels natural like that

>>725521619
Really weird lie anon.

>>725521731
Your life is a lie.

>>725487329
>machine gun text
>vertical video
>same generic voice
>two thirds of video flashy filler
I call for jihad on everyone who makes and watches videos like this

Gay fotm slop shit slop dogshit gay nigher streamer slop tranny slop poopy sloppy slop game
>only gay people and streamers play fotmslop

what kinda blueprints yall niggas found

>>725522129
If streaming was as prevalent back in the day as much as it is now Halo would be called fotmslop

>>725483171 (OP)
fotm slop
this dogshit game will be forgotten vome december

>>725522264
>tfw anvil bp my third ever raid
>night raid
>free loadout
>no butt pocket
>first raid I actually survived
that was a doozy
have to start putting my osprey bp to use and hunting more
also have light and medium gun parts and which are clutch, wish i had heavy tho
desperately hoping to find a venator bp

>>725522284
halo is gay

>>725522414
Insert any shooter you want, statement still stands.

>>725522395
You get infinity gun parts (and guns) from security lockers. Just work toward that and you'll never need bps.

>oh no why did someone shoot me on sight
you dumb fucks need to read up on the prisoner's dilemma

>>725516417
looks its the funny british woman

>>725522284
But halo was a good game. It is a game based around having fun with the big team sandboxxy vehicle combat where PvP is the point. Ranked mode and the sweaty sweaty shit was an afterthought. ARC raiders is a chore simulator with fake “progression” and PvP added to make the chore shittier to complete in an attempt to improve longevity

>>725521423
It's the ARC (the robots) arriving through drop pods or missles that land and deploy them Which drop in a 'arc'. But uh yeah it's some faggy psyop dei goy colors spookidy scary agenda oooooh.

>>725522264
Smoke and Lures my beloveds.

>>725522523
Halo was babies first FPS and was not a good game.

On a scale from 1 to 10 should i fall for this emem and buy it?

>>725522658
Halo literally defined first person shooters for like a decade though. This dogshit game wouldn’t even exist if halo didn’t

>>725483171 (OP)
>FotM streamer slop

>>725522790
This game has zero Halo influences. Dumb Amerifat consoletard. DICE released BF1942 before Gaylo.

>>725483497
wow so like Dark and Darker? man these pvp extraction games are always so tense to play

yeah niggas dont know tense like going into the wilderness with full rune armor then you got some prayer beast wearing only robes and a necklace who cant even drop their rune 2h on death coming at you 3 shotting you
fuck you

>>725483171 (OP)
How much does this game push for the ENGAGEMENT factor? I.e. if I don't grind all day every day, will I be left behind?
My hands are full with single player game backlog, and I hardly have time for another multiplayer grind to fit in. But, at the same time, if I'm interested in this game, I'm afraid I might miss the timing when the multiplayer is active, and the playerbase is not too far ahead yet.

whats the point of having good gear in this game if the pve is avoidable exactly?

>>725524663
Gear is for killing people. You can kill robots with a ferro. The only gear "for" PvE is hullcrackers and wolfpacks.

>>725524571
Free kits are entirely viable. Different shield tiers are literally one or two bullets different to down someone, which can make a difference but frequently doesn't. Better guns are better but not that much better.
It's kind of a problem honestly

>>725525167
I guess I could throw away my money at it... I made worse purchases For Honor

>>725483171 (OP)
Steam let me return it after 2 hours. The geriatric gameplay and shallow content is unforgivable. Weren't Embark supposed to only use AI assets as placeholders?

>>725522528
I thought it was the subway tunnel line map things you use to travel around in when going to the surface.

>>725483376
I think the main issue with pvp is how easy it is to aim. The weapons are very accurate and handle very well, makes ambushing easy.

>tfw miss reviving a guy by a half second because I hesitated at first
Sorry bro, I did mean to get ya. Wasn't sure if you got shot by the horde of hornets fucking up some other dude right near you, or if you got shot by the guy who then shot me moments after you died

>>725526228
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>>725521423
It's obviously a nod to the 80s retro-futurism style.

>>725503612
I already have all my workbenches leveled up, don't need a safe pocket anymore, no reason not to use free loadouts

>>725490563
Thats how I get good guns. They dont deserve them

>>725487014
Looking at Hunt they could lose 90% of their players and it still wouldn't affect me.

>>725487539
When's the Volcano Rise map coming out?

>>725502410
For real. I told this to a friend the other day. Maybe autists are butthurt with the pvp because they cant read the room. I love betraying solos because of it lol

>>725502870
More like a bitch tax.

>>725504835
The only tranny faggot here are pve fags. How about you stop being a bitch and gitgud.

>>725521046
It pushes me to actually use stuff but I wish it let me spam free loadouts and bar me from using customs until I sort it. I just want to do a bunch of runs in a night and I have to stop and sell everything for every run.