Thread 725491417

Can someone please explain how the fuck this company is still supposedly going strong when the industry around them is crashing with mass layoffs and sales failures?

>>725491417 (OP)
SHUT UP.

>>725491417 (OP)
They haven't released much for the shitch 2 now have they?

>>725491417 (OP)
Why do you keep making this thread?

they don't overextend and they release things people want to buy

They don't overbudget
They have one of the best internal development organizations that operates like clockwork
They're practically synonymous with video games with multiple generational successful IPs

>>725491828
more than Sony has released for the barrierstation 5

He was a visionary

they created some of the most recognizable and beloved franchises in gaming history and they continue to release new, exclusive games that their customers enjoy. its insane that this is such a bizarre and mind-blowing concept to the industry.

>>725491417 (OP)
high quality exclusives matter. microsoft and sony had multiple decades of proof yet made themselves commodities on purpose because they are stupid.

Nintendo is, by far, the greatest gaming company in the world. Everyone who plays games long enough knows this.

>>725492509
I think their flagship IPs being light on plot and having malleable characters helps a lot in that regard
More power to devs who simply want to move on and not be stuck on the same franchises over and over again but the base advantage with Mario is that he's simple.
His mainline entries will always be platformers but you can give him whatever new experimental mechanic to throw on him and it wouldn't be out of place as long as it adds on to those basic mechanics.
And even without platforming, you can take Mario's cast and put them in pretty much any genre and it wouldn't be out of place or would offend as long as platformers still get released.
Zelda has its timeline but Link is always reincarnating and most Zelda games are standalone anyways.

>>725491915
As if PC and the Switch 2 worldwide aren't as much or vastly more than a PS5...

>extort your laborers by making them work as fast as possible despite hourly pay
>extort your customers by demanding they pay more for less software

Gee

What a confusing issue

>>725491417 (OP)
They have cash reserves.
Simple as.
Everyone else immediately dumps their profits into the infinite money go up infinitely machine, and are currently dying because the machine stopped making money go up infinitely.
Nintendo just sits on a lot of money. They have reserves nobody else does.

Look at the leaked numbers for the Pokemon game budgets

>>725492728
>80m sold with suspiciously low amount of exclusives in your path

>>725492836
Of the big four first it's Valve, then Sony, then Microsoft, then Nintendo.

>>725493139
Lying on the first point only makes you look retarded and slow. Nintendo said at least three years ago that they don't rush or force their employees into crunch time.

>>725493280
Halfway there to its ancestor and competition, nice!

>>725493280
Playstation sells because Europeans buy it just to play FIFA and then leave it to collect dust

>>725493749
How do you explain 80m sold with hardly any games though? Thats inordinately well. And it's still got 2-3 years left

>>725493883
See >>725493842

>>725491417 (OP)
They have trained their customers well, that is how.

>>725494038
Old data

>>725494038
>including returned and refurbished products

>>725493503
>Nintendo said at least three years ago
Thank you, Nintendo of India shill squad.

>>725494347
The important part is the text at the bottom.

>>725491417 (OP)
>Makes games people want to play
>Treats their employees with respect
>Doesn't focus on short term profits, but thinks long term
It's that simple.

>>725493280
Doesn't this only have like 1-2 years left on the market? 80 seems pretty bad in that case compared to the older playstations

how are the jannies not banning this retard for spam?

>>725494805
Sony docs that estimated 80m by 2025 also said it will be at 125m in 2027. So better than PS4 likely. Especially if GTA 6 comes out next year too

>>725494038
>including returned and refurbished products

>>725493503
They literally released a statement defending themselves against slave labor, because they employ it in Brazil

>>725494978
and yet you didn't link that statement
curious

>>725494874
>Sales will remain the same or increase in the final 2 years of a console's lifespan
>GTA 6 comes out next year
Wow you really are retarded

>>725491685
Holy shit. Good job valve even without any marketing.

>>725495203
yep, every single GTA 6 sale is going to be a new PS5 owner
keep coping

>>725495203
The Q1 sales of PS5 this year were more than the previous and nearly all of the previous ones as well.

>>725495203
>GTA 6 comes out next year

>>725495343
3.7 million sales in 4 years is pathetic for hardware

>>725495396
>pathetic for hardware
No not really especially for the small UMPC market that used to be dominated by chinks. But it is if you're are a console warring retarded NPC

>>725495203
>GTA6
Some of you have been waiting on it for the entire lifetime of the Switch 1. There are people that missed a whole generation of games because they were still hoping to see one.

>>725493364
valve doesn't make much more revenue than nintendo

>>725495682
>n-not like the other girls!!!

>>725495904
We didn't miss an entire generation. We got every GOTY since 2020, and every major multiplat relevant game release.

Nintendo fans were really the ones with no games all along.

>>725496031
>we
You mean the developers that specifically thanked nintendo in their acceptance speech instead of the company that killed off their previous IP's that they forced their soulless little mascot to wear?

>>725495993
Your point?

>>725496000
What point are you trying to make here? Valve, an American company commissions manufacturing to other countries? By that logic, I heard switch 2's were primarily manufactured in India and Indonesia, therefore Nintendo must be jeet and sea company. Makes sense that would be the case anywho

>>725496165
Too bad they outdid any of Nintendo's work ever as well.

Oh yeah, and we got 2018 GOTY, and 2019 GOTY too just to add.

Talk about missing out on a generation. You're looking at Nintendo.

>>725496306
That why astro was ignored by most and has already been outdone by Donkey Kong?

>>725496165
They only did that because they felt bad nintendo lost every category they were nominated for

>>725491417 (OP)
Can someone explain why the fuck OP keeps making this same thread every day?

>>725496478
Humiliation fetish

>>725496367
Many GOTYs have been outsold before. What's your point? Is Call of Duty better than BOTW?

>>725496279
Look how flustered I made you

>>725496478
gives tendies an excuse to say their spiel about how heckin baserino their favourite company is and validate their immaturity

>>725491417 (OP)
>NOOO BWOS WHY ARE THOSE MEANIES AT NINTENDO SO PERFECT AND POWERFUL UNLIKE US DOODOOHEADS
this is good falseflagging according to retarded corporate livestock

>>725496529
Chist kid, grow up.
There's multiple awards across many publications worldwide. Nobody honestly gives a fuck at the end of it except the developers who win. It doesn't undo your enjoyment of a game if a game you like doesn't get their fucking award.
The keighly show is watched for the shite trailers because its turned into notE3 where half is paid by whoever gets the trailer in and the other half is covered by whoever paid off the most judges.
Their standards are so bad they had that AI trailer which nobody heard from again.

>>725495375
Uh oh...

>>725491417 (OP)
Their games and consoles are dirt cheap to make and they have a fanbase of fat fucking idiot losers

>>725494814
jannies are doing the spam.

>>725497469
Wouldn't be surprised, the dox was deserved honestly

>>725497031
Yeah but he was saying consoles dont maintain high sales late in life and I was pointing out a contradiction to his statement

>>725491417 (OP)
Its not like Nintendo is in as strong as a position as people think. Even the Switch sales are clearly Nintendo shipping more units to meet the 10 million target. Note how in the previous quarter, they said they sold-through 6 million in a few weeks. Now, they don't even mention sell-through units at all. By the time the report came out, they probably didn't sell 10 million to customers. We know DK Bananza was overshipped by about a million (the only thing they mentioned sell-through numbers for).

The real issue is the low software sales and their awful margins. Net Operating Income to Revenue was only 13% when it was over 30% a year ago. Sony got a lot of shit when their margin was 6%, but Sony makes triple Nintendo's revenue. Nintendo making low revenue coupled with a shrinking margin isn't great. Also, the Switch 2's attach rate is awful compared to Switch 1, being only at 20 million. Mind you, 8 million of that is just the Mario Kart bundle and yes, those 1 million extra DK copies are included in that number too. Right now, it's not complete doom and gloom which is why the stock is still high though its fallen from its peak. Christmas will be the real telltale sign. But yeah, Nintendo's profits are getting squeezed and their software isn't selling like it used too. Even if the Switch hardware sells amazingly, there is going to be concern about game sales and investor may ask why they aren't following Sony and Microsoft's lead by putting stuff on Steam

>>725496478
Because OP refuses to believe nintendo makes good games so he makes this thread as an excuse to cry about how everyone around him are tendie cultists

>>725491417 (OP)
Games
Nintendo has them

>>725497958
Holy shit. Grim.

>>725497958
This would make for a good thread, anon.

Millenial manchildren refuse to move on.

>>725491417 (OP)
Because if needed they will cut the higher ups bajillion dollar salary instead of laying off 10,000 people
Also they don't waste millions on hyper realistic graphics

>>725491417 (OP)
who makes these delusional false flag posts? is it paid promoters? is it some contingent of nintendo adult that is so attached to console wars that they need to dream up a false reality where people are seething about the financial success of Nintendo Co Ltd, losing sleep over the fact they can't emulate the superb switch 2 software, dreaming about a world where they can purchase freakin super mario on their preferred pc storefront?
fuck off and stop shitting up the catalogue with this nonsense

>>725497958
>Switch 2's attach rate is awful compared to Switch 1
These figures have been surprising. I know there aren't a lot of Switch 2 games yet, but it seems like everyone bought Mario Kart and one other game. There doesn't seem to be much interest in third party titles. The only third party game I've bought so far is Yakuza 0 because I got tired of playing Mario Kart after a week.

>>725497958
3/10 cuz you actually tried to make it believable

>>725498909
there's not really any games to buy. Everyone buying the switch 2 now definitely isn't doing it because donkey kong is a killer app, they're just doing it to have it. Same thing happened with ps5 and xbox series early on. ps5 is making up a sales difference now that ps4 diehards moved on but those first couple of years had the same problem. Will switch 2 be able to overcome it? It's going to be about the big titles after a point, mainline pokemon (predictable) and whatever nintendo has if it's good enough. I think the sad thing is it's gonna become predictable and the audience may not expand much.

>>725499361
He's completely right though

Because they overcharge for cheaply made games.

>>725499910
No, he's wrong about the concern. Margins will plummet when comparing fresh hardware to 9 year old hardware and that's normal. Same with attach rates on 9 year old hardware to fresh market hardware. He basically said nothing valuable and that's why his (your) post is just replies to yourself and people recognizing your were trolling.

>>725500285
Why did the margins go down after selling 10m units then? That doesn't even make sense. And attach rates on 9 year old hardware aren't even that far off from the S2 attach rates so that's not an excuse.

>>725498670
>Look at all these anti-nintendo threads. This must be the work of tendies and their falseflagging."
You're not fooling anyone with that schizo cope, NDSfag

>>725497958
Nintendeen, every company reports shipped units. Stop making shit up just because your cope got BTFO.
Retailer buy the units from Nintendo. They wouldn't be buying more units of they were piling up on shelves. They don't run a charity to make Nintendo look good.
>Net Operating Income to Revenue was only 13% when it was over 30% a year ago.
Because profit margins on Switch 2 are razor thin and they sell at a loss in Japan. Nintendo is consumer friendly like that.
>Nintendo making low revenue coupled with a shrinking margin isn't great
No it doesn't matter at all and they still made over double the profit than your previous Sony did.
>Also, the Switch 2's attach rate is awful compared to Switch 1, being only at 20 million
Nintendo counts digital version of "Switch 2 Edition" games as Switch 1 software. Upgrades don't count at all.
If someone buys TitS remake and the upgrade to play on his Switch 2 it counts as a Switch 1 sale.

Stop concern trolling, Nintendeen

>>725500285
>the concern
Huh?
>He basically said nothing valuable
Value? It's 4chan, people post for fun not profit. Your lexicon is completely skewed in these discussions.

>>725500459
That's because profit margins don't have a relationship with units sold. They're independent variables.

If attach rates aren't that drastically different then concern isn't warranted. Hope this helps.

>>725491417 (OP)
yakuza money,that's also how Konami does it.

>>725500526
Calm down. We're allowed to have meta discussions.

>>725500540
This is just cope. What the anon said up there was right. It's not as good as it appears for Nintendo. There's a reason they've stopped reporting sell through for game copies and hardware, among a multitude of other things.

>>725500742
>Huh
Your post was concern trolling.

>>725500864
They look fine to me.

>>725500760
You said margins will plummet when comparing fresh hardware to 9 year old hardware but as of recently, the attach rates are extremely close. So that's not gonna work here bucko. Thats not an excuse

>>725491417 (OP)
>no debt, which is basically unheard of in an economy based around debt and credit
>strong creative and business philiosphies which are hammered into every new recruit
>smart enough to zig when others zag - even if the choices flop sometimes
>a japanese institution, which has buffered it somewhat from kike influence
Unfortunately, outsiders have been squeezing their way in recently. Blackrock and the Saudis now own shares, and it'll be a turbulent time once. Miyamoto dies and the old guard retire.

>>725501014
>You said margins will plummet when comparing fresh hardware to 9 year old hardware but as of recently, the attach rates are extremely close
That's because attach rates also have no relationship with profit margins. They're also independent variables. Hope this helps.

>>725501120
So then why did the margins plummet then?

>>725501263
Because cost to manufacture is much higher on new hardware than on 9 year old hardware. The one tidbit of info that anyone could gleen from your post is that in spite of increasing prices across the board, profit margins are down, signaling that the price increases were a good choice.

>>725500540
The Switch 1 software sales lines up logically with what we saw between the last two IR presentations. 37.16 million units of Switch 1 software sold in the past 3 months. 24.4 mil in the previous quarter, 31.43 mil in the one before that, 53.7 in last year's holiday quarter. Switch 2's second quarter saw more software sold in the July-September quarter than Switch 1 software during last year's holiday season.

>>725501489
So in spite of increasing prices, profit margins are down and that means price increases are a good choice? What? Did you read what you just said?

They stopped even reporting sell through data, corroborating part of anon's post. That's not a good sign.

Also the Switch 2 will have higher production costs lifetime as well so lets not act like this drop is temporary.

>>725501968
Sell through data is notoriously difficult to gather and unless you're getting stock returns retailers continuing to order restocks means the stock has effectively been sold.

>>725501968
>So in spite of increasing prices, profit margins are down and that means price increases are a good choice?
Correct. Price increases have a positive relationship with profit margins. When profit margins are tiny or negative prices need to increase to maintain a profit.
>They stopped even reporting sell through data, corroborating part of anon's post. That's not a good sign.
They never reported sell through.
>Also the Switch 2 will have higher production costs lifetime
Source?

>>725502290
That didn't stop them from reporting it beforehand.

>>725502376
You said profit margins are down though.

Yes they did. They were telling people S2 sell-through figures in June.

I mean figure it out. It costs more to make so why would it not be a static figure for the rest of it's lifespan? Obviously over time they drop but it's how all consoles go. They very well could have smaller margins due to it for a while.

>>725500760
>That's because profit margins don't have a relationship with units sold. They're independent variables.

That is entirely wrong and fucking stupid. Go look up the basics of a profit and loss statement. It's
>Sales
>Less Cost of Good Sold
>Less Operating Cost (i.e. advertising)
>=Operating Income

If you sell more, your revenue goes up and you cover fixed cost more easily. It quit literally flows into that number stupid

>>725502683
>You said profit margins are down though.
Indeed I did.
>Yes they did. They were telling people S2 sell-through figures in June.
I doubt it. Nintendo reports quarterly and sell through is never a part of it.
>I mean figure it out. It costs more to make so why would it not be a static figure for the rest of it's lifespan? Obviously over time they drop but it's how all consoles go. They very well could have smaller margins due to it for a while.
Because Switch itself is static. Unless Nintendo makes changes to it the cost to manufacture it will decrease over as the older components decrease in price over time, leading to naturally rising profit margins throughout the lifetime of a product. This is natural and normal.

I honestly can't believe you didn't know any of this before now. Is this your first console war little boy?

>>725491417 (OP)
oh look the same seethe thread again

>>725503136
But they didnt maintain said profit though.

Look back at it. They literally told the public what the S2 sold through, this time that was absent.

See
>>725503063

>>725503063
Do you not know what independent variables are either? Changing X doesn't change y. That's it. It doesn't mean x and y can't be added or subtracted from each other. How little do you socialize? Someone by now should have told you how dumb you are.

>>725502376
>They never reported sell through
They absolutely do

>>725491417 (OP)
Nintendo always operates on the cheap. It's what saved their ass during all their low periods.

>>725491417 (OP)
TOTAL NINTENDO DOMINATION
Basically playstation is the original cancer in the industry and xbox is just a console cashgrab by microsoft(they already had pc). This is not news to anyone paying attention.

>>725494038
they also count ps portals as ps5 sales

https://insider-gaming.com/playstation-portal-sales-console/
https://www.pushsquare.com/news/2023/11/ps-portal-will-be-tracked-as-a-console-by-usa-data-firm-circana
https://n4g.com/news/2576242/playstation-portal-sales-will-be-tracked-as-a-console

>>725503384
BTW, here is their most recent report

>>725503315
>But they didnt maintain said profit though.
It couldn't. Hardware year 1 will never have the profit of hardware year 9. What they can do is maintain a profit, which is why prices increases. Nintendo can't afford to operate on a loss long term.

>>725503538
Yeah, the only mention of it there is in a description, in contrast to the one in June where they were literally reporting Sell Through figures.

>>725503384
>estimates
Like I said. Nintendo doesn't report sell-through.

>>725503635
Yes, but they were at least reporting estimates of sold through. And they stopped doing it altogether. That's sus.

>>725503361
>Do you not know what independent variables are either? Changing X doesn't change y.

If X is Revenue and Y is net operating income, then fucking yes X affects Y because the formula for Net Operating Income STARTS with Revenue. See >>725503063

Go open an accounting textbook retard

>>725491417 (OP)
Video games. GOOD VIDEO GAMES.

>>725503556
I didnt say that it could maintain it. You said that price increases are needed to maintain a profit and that didn't even save it

>>725503693
No not really.

>>725503819
See
>>725503384
>>725503538
In june they were showing it off now they're not

>>725503774
Then why do the fans never actually talk about the games? We had a famitsu general that went from thursday all the way to sunday, and it was just shitposting left and right.

>>725503708
>If X is Revenue and Y is net operating income, then fucking yes X affects Y
That's because revenue and operating profit are not independent variables. They depend on each other. Unlike profit margins and units sold. Do you underatand now, little boy?

>>725500928
That was not my post.

Yeah I'm sure the Switch 2 is selling like shit, that's why I only hear about it from people baiting for replies or ad revenue

>>725498909
>There doesn't seem to be much interest in third party titles
because most of the 3rd party games are "game from 5 years ago: slightly updated port edition"

>>725503871
It doesn't concern me because I know Nintendo never reports sell-through.

>>725504191
Why did they stop showing off their estimates for sold through then? Take a wild guess

>>725504223
You tell me, sealion.

>>725494978
Where?

>>725503986
nintendo fans don't even know what they defend anymore, it's just about sales numbers in a country they've never lived in.

>>725504245
Cope more. Shitch 2 failed and nintendo is hiding it by oversupplying the market.

>>725504154
If it was worth having, and if it had good games, we'd actually have discussions based around something other than bait and shitposting and porn spam? You know the playstation had nothing of worth because snoys did nothing but shitpost and spam goldface anal vore wojaks. The same applies here.

>>725503384
>>725503538
Actually Nintendo use whatever numbers because it doesn't matter.
Sell-in to retail is self-corrected because if the sell-through isn't as good, the order from retails will drop naturally and will reflect in the next report.

>>725504040
But they're also selling the Switch 2 for quite a bit more, substantially more than the Switch, up until it got somewhat closer due to a price increase.

>>725491417 (OP)
Because for all the other bullshit they pull their business strategy of "don't sell shit at a loss" is the correct one for long term stability.

>>725504478
But why did they stop all of a sudden? Why not boast sold through?

>>725504524
Bu they are selling the switch 2 at a loss. Thats why their profit margins are halved.

>>725497958
i hope that nintendo burns to the ground for censoring swimsuits in neptunia
even playstation let them have the swimsuits. fucking commiefornia playstation, where all the censorship began

>>725504596
How long will it stay that way is the question

>>725504596
Yeah but they didn't sell the gamecube or the 3ds at a loss at first so they never sold anything at a loss at any point in their history. Makes for a great headline don't you think?

>>725504393
Nintendo doesn't report sell through so there's nothing to hide. They don't know what their sell through is because they aren't a retailer. They only know what they sell to distributors. Best they can do is guess and tell everyone who is listening (but you) that they're guessing.

>>725504742
I honestly expect it to get worse, especially after Sony releases their region locked PS5 in Japan.
>>725504765
That was a different time.

Pokemon.

>>725504819
They used to report estimated see through, but now they dont. If you have any knowledge of accounting, every little bit of omitted information is subject to scrutiny. Keep coping tho.

>>725504819
See
>>725503384 From June
>>725503538 From a few days ago

They switched up. They don't boast it anymore

>>725504490
I don't understand what your question is.

>>725504862
>>That was a different time.
Not very different, they started selling them at a loss too.

They aren't ambitious, they set to make fun ans solid games focused on gameplay and others on multiplayer so they are great to enjoy with friends.

>>725504993
So theoretically theyre making up for the difference in hardware manufacturing, because it was nearly double the price for a long time. Youd think its relative and wouldnt likely cause a massive dropoff in profit, unless of which theyre selling it at a loss.

>>725505087
You mean the straight lines that is MKW? That is fun?

>>725491417 (OP)
Freemasonic connections unironically

>>725504862
>region locked PS5 in Japan
No one's going to buy one that can't be scalped to chinks or seaniggers

>>725505145
Yeah, they arent reporting it anymore. Even if it is just estimates, youd think theyd still be boasting it retard.

>>725505179
Its goal is to take back Sony's market share in Japan, which is a market Nintendo is highly reliant on.

>>725491417 (OP)
they target kids

>>725505110
It will be a massive dropoff regardless. You were comparing year 9 of a cheap as fuck model with massive profit margins to a year 1 model nearly being sold at a loss.

>>725491417 (OP)
By keeping their development cost under control.
When a game does not need to sell a bajillion copies to just break even, is easier to have a healthy organization.
While for most companies a single flop can mean the end of a studio, Nintendo have some leeway on that.

>>725504595
Because shit sold so fast it's hard to audit.

>>725505273
I don't think they would continue guess what their sell through is. It was likely a one time thing used to boast about how they were right to manufacture so many Switch units pre launch and justify an increased yearly sales forecast to their shareholders.

>>725505287
Literally impossible after they pretty much went "Fuck Japan", moved their HQ to California and shut down Japan Studios

>>725505150
Yes, not that a friendless poorfag like you would ever play it hence the big cope of yours

>>725491685
>PS4 sells better than PS5
HOLY KWAB

>>725505646
The ps5 outsold it in its first month respectively though

>>725505627
He's just a troll looking for attention.

>>725493280
*20 million
The 80 million number is consoles shipped

>>725505760
Nintendo also reports consoles shipped too. Congratulations.

>>725505760
Sony doesnt flood the market tho. Meanwhile, NIntendo has precedent (Wii)

>>725495375
According to who?

>>725505853
Sonys business data

>>725505814
>>725505696
Cope more Eric the PS5 is a flop. Sony literally has to claim that PS4 sales, PSVR sales, and everything else are PS5 sales when nobody I know and nobody anyone else has a PS5

>>725505850
That's more like sony's skill issue. Can't secure the manufacturing node.

>>725505896
Sony constantly lies about their business data and have been caught doing it multiple times.
>>725505850
LMAO you are delusional Eric

>>725505850
Their loss. Maybe the hardware manufacturer should stop losing to the developer who outsources manufacturing.

>>725505965
They never claimed that PS4 sales counted as PS5s sold though.

/v/ would be much better if all snoys were beaten in the streets.

>>725506441
They're not snoys, they're anti-tendies. Sony is just a trolling tool at their disposal. Literally nobody likes Sony in 2025. That's completely unbelievable.

>State of play Japan/Asia announced
>Snoy still makes Nintendo bad thread.
Damn, here isthe same as 5ch, I guess the snoy is the same everywhere

>Nobody:
>Tendies: SNOY SNOY SNOY

>Everyone: minding their own business
>Snoys: HOW CAN WE BE FUCKING FAGGOTS TODAY

>>725501263
It's almost like they are building a new massive office or something

>>725506559
Agree, nobody cares about Sony.

>>725506753
If it walks like a duck...

>>725506920
>posts a troll thread

>>725503986
It's difficult to have a normal game discussion at the famitsu threads when that one schizo always shows up to have his usual meltie that it makes you want to go fuck with him instead

>>725507015
That's the only Sony thread.

>>725507106
>guy trolls famitsu threads
>feed him, instead of just ignoring him

>>725507106
The only shcizos are the tendies

>>725506441
/v/ would be a better place if they banned third worlders. Giving them internet access was a mistake

I like the latest cope of snoys saying there's no snoys on /v/ lol, as if anyone fucking buys that.

>>725507118
They're too busy playing their PS5s. Tendies are here waiting on Elden Ring

>>725506753
You're not mad at the Sony implication, you're mad that you were yet properly identified as a troll on an anonymous image board.

>The NDS schizo reveals himself after being caught
Every time

You don't have to spend a billion dollars hiring actors and modeling the pores on their assholes.
You can make a game instead.

>>725507180
I prefer them keeping him contained there instead of him shitting up the entire board with cp

>>725507370
And here you are still making schizo Nintendo thread instead of playing games, oh wait, PS have no games.

>>725507590
He does that anyway. All you're doing is giving him attention, so he'll continue.

>>725507672
I didn't make the thread.

>>725507180
They post regardless. They have this quirk where they think they're performing in front of an audience and swaying public perception, that's why regardless of actual interactions within the thread they think they're achieving a higher good. The only effective method against them is persistent demorilazation from calling them out when you see them. It makes them think their invisible audience will be swayed as well so they leave.

>>725507816
OR you could just ignore them. When you DON'T post a response to them, that's one less post shitting up the thread. It's shameful that modern 4chan has to be reminded to not feed the trolls.

>>725507995
I'm not convinced.

>>725507995
Then the troll will keep the thread up by replying to himself.
Compared to that, seeing him melting in real time is much much funnier.

>>725508353
>then the troll will keep the thread up by replying to himself
So he'll be devoting more resources to replying to himself, instead of shitting up other threads. How is this a bad thing?

>>725508536
You think he'll run out of resources? I don't because that's not a thing that exists. You're silly.

>>725508536
What resources? He can just post the same thing again and again, even if the thread dies.

>>725508792
>>725508881
Objectively he still has to focus more of his time on samefagging a thread, but if you're giving him engagement, he can ruin other threads in the meantime. If nobody else posted in those famitsu threads after friday, they wouldn't have lasted the day. You can only samefag a thread so much.

>>725508960
You don't get it. I specifically seek to demoralize internet trolls. It's my own quirk.

>>725509034
Has this made Eric stop yet? How many ruined threads will take place until you're successful?

>>725509167
If it doesn't stop then I'll at least enjoy it. And if it does stop I'll know I got them to kill themselves. Win win.

>>725496643
Did you win the argument

>>725509443
>I helped Eric ruin threads by derailing them
>this helps /v/ because...?????

They survive off cultists

>>725509484
We weren't arguing about anything

>>725509507
I'm not interested in helping /v/. All social media can get fucked. My goals in this specific regard is purely selfish and not moral.

>>725509560
cultists that...didnt but the Wiuu or gamecube?

>>725509669
Doesn't that make you no different than Eric?

>>725509560
Must make you boil with rage, huh

>>725496478
I just had an idea
Go back to archived threads and start copy/pasting old replies whenever you see a regular repost

>>725509691
By that logic, Snoys aren't cultists because they didn't buy the Vita.

>>725509734
I'm seething so hard, I really wish I were a goycattle cultist

>>725509763
who mentioned sony?

>>725509705
We're similar in a lot of ways yeah. After all, I am a troll. I just counter troll his trolling. And yours.

>>725509794
It's common knowledge that snoys are cultists, that's why this logic doesn't work.

>>725509793
Sure.

>>725509881
Good talk

>>725509868
why do you keep bringing up sony

>>725509896
Thanks!

>>725509909
Who else hates tendies so much?

Man, we were having such a good discussion before you raiders came

>>725491417 (OP)
Brand loyality is just that strong. Xbox never had a chance to begin with and the only people loyal to Sony are third worlders that can not afford a playstation.

>>725509964
nta, PC vegans probably hate tendies more than snoys at this point. Sony doesn't have any actual fans. I refuse to believe the smattering of samey games they make has any fanbase on a very japanese /v/.

>>725504724
fpbp

>>725510126
The argument works even less for "PC Vegans" due in part to the 'eck's abysmal sales.

>>725510051
You can speak to me directly if have something to say about me.

>>725510102
>Tendie cultist bait
>Good discussions
kek

>>725510193
You can remove the quotes on PC vegans. It's here to stay.

>>725510193
'Eck was bait to console players who are curious about Steam. If you have a decent pc there is no reason to buy one at all.

I know this thread was just a shitpost thread from the get go and had no hope of good conversation, but why does every nintendo thread devolve into two groups of retards arguing with each other?

>>725491417 (OP)
Because they actually make games. Switch 2 has more exclusives in 5 months than PS5 in 5 years.

>>725510325
Tendie NDF cultists start it

>>725510306
But it's an official valve product. So wouldn't PC vegan cultists buy it en masse?

>>725510436
retard

>>725510436
PC vegan doesn't mean valve cultist

>>725510527
I'm just saying: PC vegans get called cultists every day, but if that was true, they would've bought the 'eck by the millions, and it would've at least sold more than the Vita.

If the sales of the gamecube and WiiU mean that nintendo fans aren't cultists, then you can't accuse PC vegans or snoys of being cultists either, since their parent companies have had abysmal failures as well.

>>725491417 (OP)
Shareholders, japan

>>725510325
>I am yet again pretending to be a casual observer, I do this a lot
Interesting.
>>725510382
Oh I see you were setting yourself up for a samefag reply. This might have been effective in 2005.

>>725510675
Most PC vegans already own a PC and don't feel the need to own a portable PC. It's not hard to understand.

PC users aren't in a cult like shittendo fans are

>>725510436
>>725510635
It's all PCs or android phones now.
All fun, all custom stuff, all interesting hardware, it's all gone, microsoft and cerny killed it, it's souless dull shit.
There's no magical 300 dollar box that beats a 2000 PC anymore.
>b-b
PSX was EXACTLY that. 300 dollars, fully custom hardware for 3D graphics, yhou needed a fucking 2000 dollar pentium 166 to match it in 3D.

>>725510796
I know, I'm just using their logic against them. They say that they're not cultists because of the sales of the WiiU and gamecube, so that very argument can be used to vindicate any fanbase whose parent company has had failures.

>>725510849
You'll survive.

>>725505604
Nintendo is going "Fuck Japan" even harder than Sony is now. If you care about Japan and authentic Japanese gaming, you should be cheering for Nintendo to lose here. They had this market on lockdown after Sony's betrayal and they STILL stabbed them in the back. They're literally classifying 90% of anime characters as CP based on fucking facial features, they're so anti-Japan now. Literally Xbox is less anti-Japan than Nintendo now and that's a fucking feat.

>>725510884
PC vegan doesn't mean valve cultist. You were told that and kept talking like it did anyway.

>>725510934
I'll believe it when famitsu reports it. Until then you're just concern trolling.

>>725510934
Now the rainfall fag is in the thread, nice.
This has become the Famitsu Lite thread.

>>725511040
You don't Famitsu to tell you when the publishers themselves are saying Nintendo are fucking western cocksuckers now.

>>725510980
Why not?

>>725510886
Yes, i'm super hyped for corporate gay dull alegria battle network world

>>725511161
I remain unconvinced. I need hard data and not opinions from trolls.

They make and fund their own ventures.

>>725511194
You'll get over it.
>>725511174
Sealioning doesn't work on me.

>>725511161
This game released without issues on Playstation and Steam. It has a rating of fucking 7+ in Europe. Nintendo are lying fucking bastards trying to pass this off as "legally problematic".

>>725511208
please call him by his proper nomenclature, lolcow

>>725511269
I probably will just get shot by a gayass drone that was 100% confident, and so will you.

>>725491417 (OP)
i think the rabid fan loyalty and the massive speculator market that has risen around Pokemon are doing a major part of the heavy lifting

>>725511569
I bet he shredded his investment by opening every box.

>>725511569
Not having a bunch of retards that can literally enforce your company to do retarded decisions help a lot.
Imagine, having a bunch of complete souless retards that don't understand your business threatening to sue you for not chasing retarded buzzwords.

>>725491417 (OP)
Fuck off Eric

>>725511914
Fuck off Darren

>>725511569
Even without pokemon I feel nintendo would be doing fine, but I think with pokemon on consoles they'll never have another wii u

>macaco spergout thread
Raped and gaped
Another -942 karma to Sony
Remember this when they get humiliated today in the absolute state of play today

>>725491417 (OP)
Strong foundation

>>725504478
Nintendo's reports are always Sell-In because Nintendo makes their money when they sell to the retailer. Sell-Through is better because it means someone bought it. Yes, they should line-up eventually, but it's pretty clear Nintendo pushed more units in this quarter to make the number look good. For reference, it is unusual that they don't mention Sell-through as most reports mention it multiple times. Them excluding it tells you they never sold 10 million to customers.

Also, we know DK has almost a million more units shipped vs sold to customers and thats after 12 months. Its not impossible to believe there are far more Switch 2 units in the channel that have not been sold.

>>725504040
>That's because revenue and operating profit are not independent variables

Revenue is an independent variable while operating profit is a dependent variable. Please understand what the fuck you're talking about before throwing around terms like you know anything.

>>725511969
>less than a minute reply
How does your dox STILL bother you? It was 10 years ago.

>>725503425
>It's what saved their ass during all their low periods.
stop pulling shit from your ass

>>725512398
Here's an older one. So yes, the fact the only time it pops up is the definition is suspect

>>725511569
>>>>>>

>>725512207
>karma
You're on the wrong website

>>725512398
My point still stands

>>725510326
The PS5 has more major exclusives right now than Switch 2.

>>725512724
Yeah like....
Hmm...
Astrobot? But that's not really major...

>>725513147
Astro Bot, Death Stranding 2, Yotei, and Demons Souls remake.

If Astro bot isn't major, what does that make bananza?

>>725513270
>4 movie games
Wow, bravo sony.

>>725513434
Cope all you want, it has more main exclusives

>>725513270
Not one major release

>>725513270
>what does that make bananza?
A game that sold more than Astro and has more relevance in the gaming sphere

>>725513749
Those are main exclusives though, not some other shovelware. Those are system sellers. That of which the PS5 has more than Shitch Poo

>>725513595
Dude, DeS isn't even exclusive

>>725513813
But Yotei just sold 3.3m after one month and might overtake Bananza soon, what will you say then?

>>725513830
>Those are system sellers
And yet they didn't see an increase in sales when they dropped.

>>725513859
Demons Souls remake cant be played on any other platform

>>725513949
The original is on PS3. The remake only adds armor as additional content so it's just the same game

>>725513997
*also adds omnidirectional rolling as well as other gameplay enhancements and a plethora of graphical enhancements as well as modern tech implementations

>>725513949
Correct, this is a more generous qualifier for what switchies consider exclusive based on their carefully maintained wikipedia page.

>>725491417 (OP)
Fun games

>>725512398
Counter point: all sell-through in the report were internal estimations and they already went on report switch2's demand exceeded expectations, that means their internal model stopped functioning because of that.