Thread 725632673

How would you save Vampire the Masquerade?

Give The Chinese Room a 5 million dollar budget to fix Bloodlines 2. Good sidequests, more polish everywhere.

Get Night Dive to remaster Bloodlines 1, give them license to fix the game.

Release a patch for Swansong that fixes the worst bugs and adds QoL improvements.

>>725632673 (OP)
Make good games and not smelly remakes and remasters like >>725632746

Good game being a good VTM CRPG

you can't, the people who created the IP are fags

just make a ripoff

>>725632673 (OP)
I wouldn't. Sometimes dead is better.

by never touching any of it other than bloodlines

>>725632673 (OP)
Give the license to Larian. Make an isometric RPG in the VTM world. Boom, that easy

>>725632995
>Larian
It would work as they've already made the perfect gay vampire and VTM is gay already so they could do it with their eyes closed.

>>725633070
>>725632995
the appeal of VTMB1 was its moodiness, larian can't do moody they can only do tongue-in-cheek shit

i would force them to make a proper vtmb sequel

>>725632995
kys

>>725632673 (OP)
Turn back time to the 90s
>>725632995
>larian
Fuck no, they couldn't write for a setting like that. Owlcat maybe, since rogue trader showed that they can adapt their writing style to the setting well.

>>725632995
noooooooooooooo

>>725633339
>Owlcat
lmao

>>725632746
The only thing TCR should get is firebombed.

>>725633175
>larian can't do moody
I know who could, but sadly they're a shell of what they were. Pillars is one of the most atmospheric moody games I've played.

>>725633339
>Owlcat maybe
Eh, probably not, warhammer writing is still very different to vtm writing. I also really hope Owlcat does a WFRP game after Dark Heresy, but that's just me.

>>725633643
>I also really hope Owlcat does a WFRP
Same and only because fantasy > scifi but all their games feel the same to me anyway.

>>725633695
I actually generally prefer sci fi to fantasy, but I like Warhammer fantasy way more than I like 40k.

>>725632673 (OP)
You'd need to first save the tabletop

>>725633860
RUDI
U
D
I

>>725632673 (OP)
You can't save it whilst v5 exists

>>725632673 (OP)
First, kill v5. V5 is the cancer killing WoD. Really it's what's keeping it dead. Second, Paradox no longer gets control of the IP. It's clear they don't know what they're doing it. Maybe sell it to Onyx Path as Chronicles is nowhere near as bad as v5. Third, we gotta do a soft reset of the setting and keep what people like and take it back to it's roots. Street level personal horror is the name of the game with globe spanning conspiracies in the background. Keep the 13 clans, push back the final nights, and maybe say the WoN never happened. Second inquisition is too much but maybe we just tone that down. Sabbat are still in play and are as organized as the cammies. Anarchs still around too, but exist as an in between between the Camarilla and Sabbat. And do more shit with the TMR and Inconnu.

>>725633643
My point wasn't that warhammer writing is similar to vtm writing, it's that warhammer writing is very different to pathfinder writing. Before RT came out I would have assumed that the quirky shit in their pathfinder games was their general writing style, but RT proved that it's not and they were just writing that way for that setting, and could adapt to a warhammer setting. I feel confident that they could adapt to the WoD setting as well if they took a shot at it. But they probably never will because they've got their hands full for the foreseeable future and who knows what'll be left of the franchise by the time they're done with their current crop of games

I don't give a shit about vtm but if I could go back in time I'd make the makers of Disco Elysium not break apart and have them make a Delta green game.

>>725632995

>Isometric

>>725633919
V5 wasn't a paradox decision. Paradox only fully took direct control of WoD after whitewolf wrote a book that said the ongoing massacres of gays in some country were being done by the camarilla, which caused an enormous shitstorm.

>>725634083
Isometric is comfy tho

>>725634091
chechnya

>>725632673 (OP)

TBF, good fit for Remedy, if you don't mind removing the material a bit from world of darkness and CRPG'ness, which I think makes sense if you look at VTMB. It stood on it's own more than world of darkness hype while also being fairly focused and linear(for a RPG). Remedy's writing is fine and their games do wallow a bit in atmosphere.

Everyone and their mother is tired of Dishonored combat system clones, and they certainly continue to try to do something a bit different when it comes to combat mechanics. Northen EU knows their darkness as well.

Then just avoid the lazy power fantasy (which Remedy generally do). Maybe do a FEAR type thing, where you're creative hunter but when Alma shows up shits hit the fan immediately and you're just running.

>>725634915
oh hell no not remedy

>>725634083
alone
apart

>>725632673 (OP)
You pay Owlcat to make a game in the WoD

>>725632673 (OP)
Make it a smaller-scale cRPG ala Redemption, or give it the KOTOR treatment and pal around with a coterie fighting some elder conspiracy.
I'd love another immersive sim like Bloodlines but I don't trust any developer to do it properly and not have it balloon wildly out of control.

>>725635045
Too late I already called and confirmed with the finish department of alcohol and videogames.

>>725635343
>KOTOR treatment and pal around with a coterie fighting some elder conspiracy
I like this and it also leans into the tabletop game where VTM is a social game at it's heart. I liked coteries of new york which had a similar set up where you had to create a group and figure out what was going on not knowing that the entire time it was all stacked against you. It lends itself more to a CRPG experience instead but also maybe something like a tactics game. A party of characters from different clans with different abilities maybe like picrel but less emphasis on stealth.

>>725635049
HAVE NO CHOICE IN THIS ISOMETRIC
CAN'T GROUP MOVE
PC'S ALONE
APART
ENTERED A ROOM, MADE SEGREGATED
CAN'T GROUP MOVE
PC'S ALONE
APART

>>725635604
stop
seis
pysähdy

>>725636086
>>725636208
sovl... so much fukken sovl...

>>725632673 (OP)
ever watched old yeller?

>>725637027
Sounds harsh, but sometimes it's necessary.

>>725636086

WHEN YOU'RE TAUGHT THROUGH QUICKLOADING
WHEN YOU'RE TAUGHT THROUGH QUICKLOADING
WHEN YOU'RE TAUGHT THROUGH QUICKLOADING
WHEN YOU'RE TAUGHT THROUGH QUICKLOADING

>>725632673 (OP)
Why do you make these threads every day? There's nothing special about this series, it's just extremely odd to fixate on some janky casual narrative game about vampires. The tabletop game is absolutely atrocious too.

>>725637658
>tranime avatarfagging
VTM may be gay but you're fucking gayer fag

>>725637658

>Why do you fixate on one of the biggest PC cult classics?

>>725637775
Answer the question. It's fucking weird and annoying. Not even mario has 24/7 generals but this is common place for multiple rpgs. It's infesting and shitting up the board. Only this genre has really invasive and obnoxious threads like this.

>>725636086
>IF I LOAD WILL YOU FOLLOW
>AN ASCII GAMEFAQS WALKTHROUGH
>AND I WOULD SEETHE AND RAGE
>AS YOU MICROMANAGE NOW

>>725638008
>stoppppppppp talking about video games ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
Would you rather another fucking shitty god of war better men thread faggot? At least vampirechads keep to themselves. Piss off tranime faggot

>>725637658
the real question is why do you spend all your time in threads you don't like?

>>725637924
>the biggest PC cult classics
Uh whoa there, let me stop you there. It's objectively and quantitatively not even in the top 100. Not even top 500. Maybe not even top 1000. "PC classics" are games like Minecraft, Terraria, and Doom, whether you can admit that to yourself or not.

It's totally bizarre that generals like this are tolerated, and even stranger that people spend all day in generals like this instead of moving on. I think rpgs must cause some kind of severe brain rot.

Do not engage with tranime avatarfagging.

>>725638364
>why do you spend all your time in threads you don't like?
Because you've filled the entire board with threads I don't like.

>>725638628
Boy this is not very well written dialogue.

>>725638409
>It's totally bizarre that generals like this are tolerated
janny applications are closed, sorry you missed your calling freak

>>725638409
Do you know what a cult classic is?

>>725638120
>video games
Really stretching the definition of video games
>At least vampirechads keep to themselves
Uh like hell you do 50% of the catalogue is these awful "cool wine uncle" casual janky rpgs for people who can't be bothered to play a video game any more.

>>725632673 (OP)
VtM games need more vampires who aren't manipulative pieces of shit.

>>725638930
shut the fuck up tranime faggot

>>725638754
Apparently a cult classic is any super casual and mediocre game that had a dedicated discord.

>>725632673 (OP)
The lore is a fucking mess and the IP is completely cursed. If you want to make a good vampire game just make your own lore. World of Darkness is not even a popular IP, it's completely pointless to engage with this shit.

>>725639110
good list. You'll age too one day tranime faggot or not if you kys

>>725638995
VV was peak manipulation.

Kill this dude for me, but don't make other suffer ok :(

And you agreed just because of her big tits and sultry voice. Her voice is nice though.

>>725639184
Im unironically older than you are.

>>725638995
vampires are assholes

>>725639254
>being old AND tranmie avatarfagging
concerning

>>725639304
Have you tried not being some cardboard cutout golem?

>>725639209
n-no... vv loves me...

rudi is my idol
>anarch leader
>protests with mortals, probably during daytime as well
>fights for gangrel rights
>stands up for oppressed female kindred all around europe
>goes clubbing all the time
>devotes time to practicing his religion too
>the camarilla fears him
>other vampires love him
>humans love him too
rudi is awesome!

>>725632673 (OP)
>How would you save Vampire the Masquerade?
Playable Tzimisce

>>725639813
Where does he work out?

>>725639991
In the BDSM sex dungeon.

>>725638995

VTMB would be better off not being shackled by world of darkness and I am tired of pretending otherwise

>>725640117
Need a new vampire setting. Leave WoD behind.

Go back to Revised/V20. Don't hire anyone from the modern ttrpg landscape.

i like the lore and the rules, keep world of darkness (v5 isn't canon Though)

>>725640234
>Need a new vampire setting
Is that not what CoD/Vampire: The Requiem is?

>>725639209
Can't say no to those blood bags
Also even purely pragmatically you should do her quests for the xp

jeanette loves me

>>725632673 (OP)
goth is dead and punk is cringe, VTM is pretty hopeless in a modern social climate. investing in the other gamelines is the best move. trannies on youtube have made HTR a promising prospect in terms of potential sales, I'd try to put out the rancid trash fire that is HTR 5e with a new edition that doesn't use fucking reddit ama screenshots, niggers and orthodox jews for flavor on every page. give more concrete crunch than the newgen critical roll storytelling game philosophy too. I know WoD is far more focused on the social pillar of gameplay than other games, but having next to no rules is obviously not a game worth buying. no vidya or any media for WoD is going to be fixed without the ttrpg source being saved first

>>725632746
>Give more money to The Chinese Room

>>725638995
and replace them with what? rational people? they're bloodsucking monsters who lose more and more of their humanity with every feeding, whose bloodline is damned no matter what and with peers who have lived hundreds of years committing all kinds of atrocities either to keep the beast in check or to maintain the agenda. treating vamps as anything other than an evil plague is exactly how we got in this mess in the first place

>>725632673 (OP)
By adding Sex Scenes like the witcher 3

>Give the IP to Digital Extremes
>An online game where you are able to visit hubs like elysiums and see all the players and go out into maps like Bloodlines but bigger and do quests or go to rp channels/servers to get your theatre kid on
thats it

>>725632673 (OP)
>>725633860

I wouldn't make Paradox apologize for white wolf insulting Ramzan Kadyrov and allowed white wolf to get muslimeened.

>>725640805
>goth is dead and punk is cringe
This was something I noticed in VTMB2. The piercings are over the top and felt like what the modern view of 90s goths were.

>>725632673 (OP)
Meet and Fuck: The Masquerade

>>725640742
no
me

>>725642515
What do you do in this game?

>>725633530
>that piece of shit
>moody
It was hopelessly hollowborn.

>>725643057
Meet and fuck.

>>725643203
meet and HUH?!

>>725643501
HAAAWWWW?!

>>725643203
Is there a demo so I can get an idea of what that's like?

>>725632673 (OP)
Let a chud write the sequel. Only chuds have the creative spark in our dark times.

>>725643739
HMMMMMMMMMMM!!!

>>725642515
I wonder how many anons have played a m&f game these days

>>725644193
Should be mandatory to play at least two of them.

>>725643805
I would sell the game for $40, and expect an audience of 100,000 players. With limited advertising costing $1 million, and wanting whomever is loaning me the money to double their profit, I'd be asking for a small loan of $1 million. Give me and a team of 6 other autists (1 artist, 1 musician, 1 marketer, 1 writer, and 2 coders) 2 years and we'd be able to make a game that returns a minimum of $4 million against a $2 million budget.

>>725643805
Writing was the least of the problems in VTMB2

>>725644193
>>725644327
I've never met my soulmate...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WWpZC1bKfX8