Thread 725656660

>"The selling point of our next $1200 console is it'll be able to run steam"
>today happens

What's going through their heads right now?

>>725656660 (OP)
probably a bullet

If actual human thought went on in Microsoft's heads at any point in the past 12 years, Xbox wouldn't be in the abysmal position it is today.

What selling point?

The Xbox PC is just a last ditch attempt at staying at the hardware market, I don't think they really care that much about it. After it sells worse than the Wii U, they'll happily close their hardware division.

japs won
gates lost
just auction off the brand already and get out

>>725656702
hopefully

>>725656660 (OP)
Why not? A console is just a retarded version of a PC anyway.

>>725657032
I don't think Sega wants it back

>>725656660 (OP)
>wow an ROG Ally 2 with Xbox branding
>IT IS AN XBOX!
Microsoft fooled you again

>>725656660 (OP)
Xbox has been in a perpetual humiliation ritual since 2013

>our competition is no longer playstation
>instantly btfo by steam
Fucking hell.

>>725656660 (OP)
"we lost so let's seek empathy to carve ourselves a corner". But they don't realize that without a clear vision and leadership they'll only keep meeting failures.

>>725656702
If only

>>725656660 (OP)
>What's going through their heads right now?
Nothing. The Xbox team is comprised of actual retards.

>>725656969
running steam

>>725656660 (OP)
KWAB

>>725657338
>smartphones are retarded pcs
>TVs are retarded pcs
>xiaomi lightbulbs are retarded pcs
>Apple Watches are retarded pcs

>>725660124
Bad example; smartphones made PC obsolete when it comes to practicallity Anyway please excuse him; he think consoles as a whole are the sad sattire that arrived in the 7th gen.

>>725656660 (OP)
That's literally why they're doing this whole Xbox/Windows unified console strategy. Microsoft couldn't give two shits if PlayStation wins the console war. It's a shrinking market that's increasingly irrelevant for phone/tablet kiddies; their revenue from hardware sales is practically a rounding error. But if SteamOS actually took off as a desktop alternative, that would cripple their entire company.

>>725656660 (OP)
>What's going through their heads right now?
That they don't even need to sell their next console because Valve will sell the hardware for them so they can sell the games they funded.
Do you even understand what Xbox strategy is? Not saying it's a good one, but the next steam flop doesn't affect it.

>>725656660 (OP)
Xbox next is just a copium, probably some corporate money glitch to pay salaries for nepobabies. Xbox is dead since closing business in Europe, it's just cloud service with some extra steps

>>725661505
Ms can't unify UI for windows, unifying Xbox and windows even more delusional

>>725661702
they should just cancel the next console then

>>725661505
>It's a shrinking market that's increasingly irrelevant for phone/tablet kiddies
>nintendo sold its best ever and the pace keeps going into their newer console
>PS5 somehow managed +75 millions
>Mobileshit never took off outside gacha and gacha is a 1/100 chance of passing the 1st year
>Even bouncing back from gaming into services/microtransaction can bring some cash
Xbox simply failed hard, anon. It's deluded to not face it.

>>725656660 (OP)
lol

>>725662684
Does anyone still believe this corporate rhetoric? They are paying attention and they are shitting their pants.

>>725662558
Xbox failed hard but the reason a company worth $3 trillion isn't even trying to sell/advertise their console is because they don't evaluate the market to be worth pursuing.

>nintendo sold its best ever and the pace keeps going into their newer console
People forget the DS sold 150 million units in addition to the Wii's 100 million units. The Switch earned those sales by cannibalizing two separate product lines.
>PS5 somehow managed +75 millions
Which is the same pace as the PS4. In a vacuum that seems good, but remember Xbox sales have plunged over that same span. So where did all those Xbox players go?
>Mobileshit never took off
This is just delusional

The fact of the matter is that Wii+DS+PS3+PSP+Xbox360 cumulatively sold way more than Switch+PS5+Series X|S sales.

>>725662476
They shoud've done that after the Xbone but they stupid or tone deaf enough to keep losing money from that end. THAT stupid

>>725665228
>Xbox failed hard but the reason a company worth $3 trillion isn't even trying to sell/advertise their console is because they don't evaluate the market to be worth pursuing.
Becuase they failed to the point of no recovering.

>>725664573
Vocal minorities that try to be politically correct.

>>725662684
KWAB

>>725665228
>The Switch earned those sales by cannibalizing two separate product lines.
PS4 reached similar numbers, cannibalization and product lines have nothing to do here.

>Which is the same pace as the PS4
I tend to feel PS5 was sluggish as hell compared to it.

>This is just delusional
It's true; its audience never fell for the serious platform for games and those "gaming smartphones" some manufacturers try to sellas the next big thing were forgotten soon. People simply doesn't see smartphone as anything more than short lived and disposable, the complete opposite of gaming platforms that need a little comitment

>>725665228
>People forget the DS sold 150 million units
The PS2 sold 155 millions!

>>725666032
*150 and out of his generation.

>>725656660 (OP)
We're fucked

>>725662684
God I hate this faggot

>>725656660 (OP)
>What's going through their heads right now?
Probably something along the lines of
>Finally a reason to ditch this brand!
Satya Nadella is just one of countless greedy tech executives who are prioritizing short term stock price over long term growth. Xbox is fucked because they can't realistically hope to meet the extreme profit goals demanded by corporate, and there's absolutely no way they can implement the mandatory AI use in a way that isn't pointless. Xbox as a brand won't even be granted a graceful death, their legacy will be pissing away the good will of the entire generation that grew up with them.

>>725670256
Who cares though? It's actually weird that there's still fags obsessed with Xbox%, love or hate. I was a daily 1 og Xbox owner and xbox live beta tester. I just bought two copies if crackdown 3 for 4.74 each to play with my son but Xbox has been long dead and irrelevant. Gaming in general is far shittier than when xbox was relevant as well.

>>725670256
>their legacy will be pissing away the good will of the entire generation that grew up with them.
There's barely any of those at this point and not enough to make any sort of difference tbqh

Am I being gaslit? I could've sworn there were headlines all over the fucking place about two or three months ago about Microsoft intending to permanently shutter the Xbox division and get out of the videogame industry entirely... and now it's like none of that happened.

>>725671343
>Am I being gaslit?
Yes, that's Xbox's intention when they ditched exclusives.

>>725671343
They're killing the Xbox console and turning it into a SteamOS stand-in for Windows to go against Valve. Next gen is Nintendo vs Sony, Valve vs Microsoft, gonna be fun.

>>725656702
That would be a waste of lead. They're killing themselves just fine without it.

Oh yeah, that was a rumor or some shit. I usually tune out Microsoft news.

>>725656702
fippy bippy

>>725672306
Next level humilliation ritual.

>>725656660 (OP)
The only reason the entire gaming division at MS wasn't shut down is they are terrified of valve and linux. Xbox is now just a tool to slow down the destruction of windows.

If the new Steam console is positioned to shit on Microsoft's parade then I might have to buy 2.

>>725664573
>>725665786
>>725668347
bUt HeS sO cOoL

DiD u KnO hE HaS a GaMeRtAg

oNE oF uS!!!!11

>>725673304
What's the gametag again? To laugh once more

>>725671343
Everyone hates Xbox including Xbox fans so there's enormous incentive for clickbait/leakers to exaggerate and dogpile them whenever they're in the media cycle. They already have a deal in-place with AMD so they're for sure going to release SOMETHING. The speculation is it will be a more powerful/expensive version of essenti

>>725672306
How is Sony not competing with Valve and Microsoft? They port everything to PC which means SteamOS/Windows can play every PlayStation game in addition to computer gaming capabilities.

>>725673932
They technically are trying to compete with Valve next gen, the PS6 is going to be significantly less custom and more PC-like going by Mark Cerney.

>>725673932
>The speculation is it will be a more powerful/expensive version of essenti
Xbox is clearly doubling down of failure route; $1k hardware where you own nothing and depends on internet almost entirely. They hope but they won't sell without exclusives; game systems live and die through it and can't survive without them hence why Xbox's selling trend in game and hardware has been in a downward spiral for pretty much a decade

>>725673849
https://www.gamertagnation.com/member.php?u=5174&do=gamertag

>>725662684
absolutely fuming and panicking behind his keyboard

>>725674564
Danke

>>725661937
This. Ever since Windows 8 Microsoft has had no fucking idea how to design their own OS.

The only reason Windows is used is because of the programs other people already made to run on it.

>>725674564
>completed games are Microsoft solitaire and Avatar tbe + a bunch of easy arcade shit
>only cheevos on NG4 of all things
He really is one of the modern audience; plays for 2hrs the shiny new game out of novelty and then fucks off to the next one that will drop in less than 3 hours

>>725674457
Literally only Nintendo sells consoles on the strength of their exclusives. Every other platform lives and dies by live service games. Literally every other entertainment platform is fully digital and internet mandatory. It's been obvious since World of Warcraft where the industry was headed, and I have no idea why you clingers are still in-denial about it.

If you actually have a RAID library of cracked digital copies, respect. But typically this whining comes from Gamestop boomers who cluelessly prefer discs that have the exact same licensing protections as digital copies. It's just paranoid idiocy.

>>725674564
>rates GH3 with 3 stars
>Scott Pilgrim,dig dug, dead space and simpsons arcade with only 1
>but Halo MCC, RotTR, Cod and RE6 with 5 stars

>>725676095
>Literally only Nintendo sells consoles on the strength of their exclusives
Products sell due the strenght of their exclusivity. This applies to every simple product ever known to man and extends even into services. It's a thing that only works for one specific but a testament in how the ones rejecting a paradigm that works meets struggles for the sake of change to sell it as a some sort of hook.

>>725665228
TRVKE

>>725676583
Xbox had exclusives and couldn't get into any market outside us. Japanese game fans are casual.

Well you can play games with anti cheat!

>>725676907
You're mixing apples with oranges. And that's even with you ignoring 360 was the best performance Xbox ever had in Japan... and that was exactly because their JP exclusive push.

>>725662684
>core values

>>725662684
Big Phil finna close some studios to blow of steam frfr

>>725677495
>the only steam he can blow off

>>725671343
>people see a target store moving Xbox display
Xbox is dead!
>guy heard Xbox is missing 2026 deadlines
Xbox is dead.

Meanwhile, amd leakers continue to leak nextbox shit.

>>725677890
And those nextbox won't be sold in retailers, they're trying to copy Valve's direct-to-consumer approach while the third-party Xbox PCs will be sold in retailers.

>>725678017
We don't know shit about where or how it is being sold. Stop listening to mlid.

>>725676583
Again, you're living in Gen 7. By total playtime, live service titles dwarf everything save for a few Nintendo flagships. Outside of enthusiast forums, no one cares.

>>725678214
>Again, you're living in Gen 7
Xbox's current gen numbers are the lowest and PS5 has been a slow burner. You want to make believe the past is a bad thing because your future and its ideas have failed.

>Outside of enthusiast forums, no one cares
Exactly; you have no exclusives = you have nothing going for you, so no one cares.

>>725677201
Og Xbox with ninja gaiden and doa games couldn't pull jap fans. Pathetic

>>725678640
Nips simply don't like Microsoft even when it does something kind of right, the world and PC vegans should learn from them tbqh

>>725678789
>nips
and poser faggot casual jap game fans. The sake group that didn't buy dreamcast

>>725679216
>The same group that didn't buy dreamcast
It was doomed due Sega burning its bank from Genesis through Saturn (Thanks, SoA!), DC was its hail mary that gave some hope before reality checking in.

>>725679441
The consumer base that people say Xbox needed exclusives for simply doesn't exist. Dark souls franchise could be xbox exclusive and it would be in the same situation. It wouldn't move the needle much.

>>725680121
>The consumer base that people say Xbox needed exclusives for simply doesn't exist.
Neither the ones saying it doesn't need them seeing Xbox Series' numbers. In fact they're even less seeing 360 sold almost 3x more hardware in comparison fueled by exclusives (a competent leadership and clear direction also helped apparently). That said

>The consumer base that people say Xbox needed exclusives for simply doesn't exist.
Anymore, they clearly got the message and fucked off to other platforms.

>>725656660 (OP)

Steam blew their load first, if it flops then Microsoft can abandon that model if the GabeCube is what they were planning to do.

>>725656660 (OP)
They can still dmg control this, just sell their $1200 console for $600.

>>725656660 (OP)
Surprise: The next Xbox and Steambox are the same thing.

What if? I mean, the aesthetic alone - they look similar.

>>725681245
Reportedly Xbox's next machine is going for pure power so the GabeCube would fit into the Series S niche which was the better selling Series model.

>>725656953
Microsoft was pretty on-point, honestly. They did most things right. It's just the Sony brand-loyalists and their own bad reputation that caused them problems. Xbox Series X was a better product than the PS5. There's not even a real competition there. With GamePass, PS5 just got fucking smoked. If a just world, MS would have destroyed PS5. But, past factors ruined them.

>>725681245
>Steam blew their load first
Valve has been waiting years to make this move. Microsoft cancelling their own handheld and instead releasing a rebadged knockoff of the Steamdeck was the green light they needed to swing the axe. Gabe has been planning to kill Microsoft for decades.

>>725681245
>be xbox
>stir up rumors about a handheld
>info leaks as time goes and "hype" builds when your announcement is right around the corner
>Steam decides to release Steam OS that works on the alledged "handheld" PC you were about to reveal
>Panic
>Time passes and now rumours about a new generation console appears
>Steam, what a coincidence!, decides to reveal their "console" that is basically the same crap you were hinting at
Gaben must have insider's info, the timing for this shit is way too funny

>>725671343
Clickbait

>>725656993
More than that, I'd say it exists purely so they can say "well, we tried everything and it didn't work out" and leave the harware market without shareholders asking too many questions. They're sending it out to die as a sacrificial lamb basically. There's absolutely no expectation or plan for it succeeding whatsoever.

>>725681658
>They did most things right
Keep telling yourself that.
They repeatedly cucked to competitors for short term profit.

>>725681658
>Microsoft was pretty on-point, honestly. They did most things right
>They did it so right their hardware line died off. nobody buys them physical, only has GP and GP actually predate people paying you the digital purchase
wdym?

>Xbox Series X was a better product than the PS5
On paper, yeah. But in videogames the execution means everything and Xbox has been really poor at it.

>>725656660 (OP)
"Well we're fucked."

>>725677307
I'm all for some core values.

>>725681658
You know, I've seen Snoys and Nitengers coping a lot, but the type of logical loops Xbots tie in order to cope is something you just have to stare at for a bit and really take in to see how fragile and mentally out of touch people can get when they deny basic reality.

>>725681939
Even worse when they could have won with ease but they themselves were the ones with the idea of keeping CoD multiplat. Why the fuck you'd keep your property able to others? Fucking retarded and now it's over because by when they actually make it exclusive PS might be recovered or dead and MS' reverse Midas touch could've killed CoD of all things, this is already happening it seems seeing feedback to the last releases of the series lol

>>725673932
>They port everything to PC
Still waiting for astrobot

>>725656702
were it so easy

>>725682836
Basado and Doritopilled

>>725682310
>Even worse when they could have won with ease but they themselves were the ones with the idea of keeping CoD multiplat. Why the fuck you'd keep your property able to others?
Because the FTC was breathing down their neck. Back when the Activision merger was first announced everyone was treating Xbox as an impending monopoly.

>>725683109
>Because the FTC was breathing down their neck.
Xbox was never in trouble, ms backs people within the US system.

>>725656660 (OP)

I'm a long time Xbox user. I've been playing on Xbox since its third month of existence to the public.

It was a fun ride with the 360 but their time has come and gone. There's no reason for their existence. Steam will be the PC/console of choice for gaymers.PS6 is gonna be a phat ass machine. Nintendo Switch 2 OLED should b kewl.

Goodbye Microsoft but your ruined it with your greed. You're the reason you need to pay to play online with a Sony or Nintendo console.

>>725683254
Lina Khan is from the "monopolies are when corporation big" school of economics and was blocking basically everything.

>>725683582
And yet, she couldn't. That buyout was going to pass anyway even if it's a monopoly. Luckily MS rots what they touch

>>725678203
That's the rumor on the mill, retailers are dropping the first-party boxes left and right, they're shifting to all digital, the next Xbox is a Windows PC. All next gen first-party Xbox Consoles will be sold only on the Microsoft Store website while OEM Xbox PCs will be sold in retailers.

>>725683950
The rumor mill is a dude went to target and asked a guy about a display and then posted it on reddit. The only retailer that dropped them is Sam's club.

>>725683950
Can't wait to see the numbers. They'll be low as fuck

>>725684593
It's going to be so funny

>>725684114
You're coping, Xbot

>>725671343
how exactly hasnt precisely what you described happened ?
xbox is all in on mutliplatform for everything, even halo now.
retailers are pulling their products and ones who dont have much shorter xbox sections compared to switch 2 or PS5.
they're next 'console' will basically be a glorified prebuilt PC and they have no exclusives anybody cares about anymore.
gamepass, the one thing that kept them relevant is dead after price doubling.
its done boss, just buy a 360 and hack it for old times sake.

>>725684593
it's going to make xbone look like a massive success

>>725687198
I genuinely wonder where they can go from the 30 million X/S seeing their state is too late to recover from. That or with they're come up to sell smoke with the metrics; don't know what way to cope they have left. I'd say 20 millions would be cause to mass party at HQ for them at this point

>>725656660 (OP)
>I want games held hostage by consoles for no reason at all
Console is not the future

>>725671343
Every couple months there is some rumor by some random """insider""" from a source they won't tell saying that xbox is doomed. That's when the shills come out in force making thread after thread and post after post all over the internet. Then when it is proven that isn't the case the gas lighting starts where the shills pretend it didn't happen.

>>725657857
Being fair, that's been MS in general.

>>725687938
People don't care about "freedom" memes, windowslave. They do give a shit for reasons to buy and exclusives are the main one in gaming. Xbox people wouldn't understand

>>725682836
When you first saw the Steam Machine, were you blinded by its majesty?

>>725688159
>W-w-we have exclusives
Did you enjoy state of play snoygger?

It’s really a shame that xbox can’t get its shit together because valve’s weak ass console will easily be beat in specs alone

>>725688642
>snoyger
wanna try again?

>>725662684
Lol, Phil is such a fucking embarrassment.
Or he would be if Xbox still had anything worth being embarrassed for.

>>725656660 (OP)
The specs of the Steam brick are pretty bad imo, they are barely enough for today gaming, it will be completely obsolete in 2 years.

I'm still on board if Microsoft turns the xbox into mass produced prebuilt PCs, what's keeping me away from PC is the need to brute force performance with expensive hardware on ports made by jeets, I can dream of a PC getting optimization as a console

>>725693458
>they are barely enough for today gaming
Good morning, sir.

>>725662684
I've never found a more fitting image encapsulating this.

>>725665228
>The Switch earned those sales by cannibalizing two separate product lines.
They did that out of the belief that mobile gaming killed the handheld market, which might not even be a stretch. The 3ds sold like 75 million compared to its predecessor, which means that sales basically halved. Home consoles have always been a hit or miss for Nintendio so they chose to optimize where they're best at.

>>725656702
Kek

>>725656660 (OP)
there's no next console. they're just saying what they have to in order to cover their asses from a shareholder lawsuit.

>>725656660 (OP)
Millions of gallons of water

>>725656660 (OP)
The 6th gen Xbox and the GabeBox are the same thing. I'm calling it.

>>725694841
Wake me up when it's legal to kill shareholders / stockmarket "people"

>>725682202
Nope, fuck you. Xbox Series X is a better console than the PS5. I have both, and a Switch (no Switch 2, though, fuck that). And I feel sorry for Sonyfags that fell in line for the PS5 because they of that brand cultism. Xbox and GamePass have much better offerings. PS5 may have won with sales, but it is an inferior console when judging the consoles solely on what they provide to the consumer. That's just how it is. No cope needed.

>>725672627
true