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/utg/ Undertale/Deltarune General
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Spoilers ahead, proceed at your own Prophecy.

-DELTARUNE CHAPTER 1-4
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Anonymous No.527503840
BURGHLEY CHANGED THE PROPHECY
GET FUCKED RALSEI
Anonymous No.527503884
>>527503764 (OP)
Think I got my final set of 3D print pin designs sorted (for those who didn't see last thread, did color tweaking to fit the colors of filament available to me), can't believe I forgot Lancer last time kek

(Yes I just posted this in last thread but reposting cause it died two posts later)
Anonymous No.527503890
Howdy motherfucker.
Anonymous No.527503904 >>527503956 >>527503968 >>527505219 >>527505238 >>527505571 >>527537023
I LOVE TV! SAY IT WITH ME!
Anonymous No.527503956
>>527503904
Radio's better
Anonymous No.527503957 >>527504060
Anonymous No.527503968 >>527504476
>>527503904
I WANT MY
I WANT MY
I WANT MY MTV
Anonymous No.527504060
>>527503957
unbeatable frisk superboss (like Knight but there is no false victory and no reward)
Anonymous No.527504126
Anonymous No.527504137 >>527504174
X for snowgrave rape scenes that Toby himself had to patch to make less explicit
Anonymous No.527504151 >>527504548 >>527507948
Okay. So there's this deltarune artist who's work I like, specifically they do a lot of animatic/amv type stuf.

She recently put up a poll asking what song she should do her next deltarune animatic set to.

Which one of these songs do you think would fit best for a deltarune 3 and 4 animation?
Anonymous No.527504174
>>527504137
>less explicit
Anonymous No.527504179 >>527504234
Doetarune.
Anonymous No.527504234 >>527504367 >>527504942
>>527504179
Anonymous No.527504342
ICE-E CANNON GO
Anonymous No.527504347 >>527504542
Why doesn't Tenna have a walk cycle? It makes some of the scenes kind of awkward. King, Queen, and Gerson all have walk cycles, too.
Anonymous No.527504367
>>527504234
whenever i see one of these with the bright as shit text i imagine Sans or Carol or whoever just talking with a primed flashbang in their hand
Anonymous No.527504403
>>527503764 (OP)
Why was he Tolkien in this universe?
Anonymous No.527504404 >>527504494 >>527504508 >>527504726 >>527504742 >>527505126 >>527507620 >>527507846
Why does Susie's room has cuck chair?
Anonymous No.527504406 >>527504726
Give me all the proof of the Knight's identity
Anonymous No.527504473 >>527504580 >>527504663
Deltarune exists exclusively to give a new generation of youths cuckqueen fetishes.
Anonymous No.527504476 >>527504583
>>527503968
>MTV Tenna
>He plays PimpMyRide, Catfish TV Show, Daria and so on
i smell kino
Anonymous No.527504493
Anonymous No.527504494 >>527504616
>>527504404
why is everyone calling it a cuck chair
Anonymous No.527504508 >>527504580
>>527504404
For Noelle.
Anonymous No.527504528 >>527504584 >>527504642
wheres bulmasped when you need him the most
Anonymous No.527504542
>>527504347
Lancer also slides around doesn't he
Anonymous No.527504548
>>527504151
> There's unironic tumblrfags that actively post their retarded faggot opinions and call Kris they in these threads
You niggers are a plague, why can't you stay in your gay places like reddit or xitter?
Anonymous No.527504578
>>527497721
>Return to House dark world
>Finally get to meet how to draw dragons
>Return to Library dark world
>It's just an endless green field devoid of life
Anonymous No.527504580 >>527504674 >>527504709 >>527504710 >>527504896 >>527506075
>>527504508
>>527504473

This is who ur being mean to btw.
Anonymous No.527504583
>>527504476
>the gameplay is almost identical except there’s no music video minigame
Anonymous No.527504584 >>527504723
>>527504528
who? i don't keep up with namefag drama
Anonymous No.527504616 >>527504868
>>527504494
Chair is useless without a desk
Anonymous No.527504642
>>527504528
Isn't Bulma a Dragon Ball character? What does that have to do with Deltarune?
Anonymous No.527504656
Anonymous No.527504663
>>527504473
isn't that when women play team spectator?
Anonymous No.527504674
>>527504580
GOOD.
Anonymous No.527504709 >>527506581
>>527504580
She'd approve of this
Anonymous No.527504710
>>527504580
ROFL
Anonymous No.527504723
>>527504584
afaik he's a regular that just gets on the thread to shit on the game and complain about the people posting on the thread, hes a funny sight
Anonymous No.527504726 >>527504841 >>527504905
>>527504404
When do we get to this? Can't remember seeing this from my playthrough.

Also I think it's a easter egg whatever from a website thingy Toby did. Then again that describes half the fucking assets in the game at this point

>>527504406
Off the top of my head; Dess probably because antlers, blade has a dent similar to Dess's bat, lemotif has something in it as well.
Anonymous No.527504742
>>527504404
Ninten has a chair in the middle of his empty room like that and he fucks
Anonymous No.527504814 >>527504859 >>527504860 >>527504902 >>527504992
What are you supposed to do to defeat Tenna?
Anonymous No.527504841 >>527504992
>>527504726
>When do we get to this?
In the game? It's literally unskippable.
Anonymous No.527504859 >>527505491
>>527504814
fill his mercy bar up
Anonymous No.527504860 >>527508306
>>527504814
Suck his nose
Anonymous No.527504868
>>527504616
>things become darkeners through emotional attachment.
>this attachment can be positive or negative.

the sequel to susie-kino will be fucking gutwrenching isn't it?
Anonymous No.527504896 >>527506490
>>527504580
God Noelle makes such a perfect cuck too imagine her sitting on a chair squirming and panting and trying not to sob as her best friend absolutely destroys her crush in from of her, wringing her skirt into a frayed patch of fabric to occupy her hands and keep herself from furiously masturbating in front of them, her entire body aching and quivering with the pent up desire of ripping her clothes off and wedging herself between them churned into a stick mess like a third world factory worker getting too close to dangerous machinery
Anonymous No.527504902 >>527505491
>>527504814
just...get the points, dude.
Anonymous No.527504905 >>527504950 >>527504992
>>527504726
The Ralsei cutscene right at the start of chapter 3. It's not 100% confirmed to be Susies room, but like cmon, look at it
Anonymous No.527504942
>>527504234
YOUR TOO BRIGHT
Anonymous No.527504950
>>527504905
Gaster's room
Anonymous No.527504992 >>527505060 >>527505491
>>527504814
Pacifist run is act, then use minigames to get his points up to 1000. Bring TP plus shit if you getting filtered

>>527504841
>>527504905
Ah got ya, had a brain failure there thought that was a place we'd been to in game not just seen in a cutscene
Anonymous No.527505001
>Holiday Manor dark world and some of the Darkners know what you did to Noelle because they saw it happen and become aggressive
Anonymous No.527505019 >>527505149
i've been warming up to the idea of kris being a girl, if only because watching her suffer from pms would be mad funny
Anonymous No.527505031 >>527505069 >>527505098 >>527505524
holy shit...i saw this art and...did
did someone fucking based this art off of my stupid edit i made a week ago?! HELLO?? HELP
i swear this is just a pure coincidence but come on, it got me hyped a little bit

MAYO ROUTE TENNA IS REAL
Anonymous No.527505060
>>527504992
TP items really seems like cheating in newer chapters
Anonymous No.527505069 >>527505220
>>527505031
Can I see the OG edit?
Anonymous No.527505085 >>527505198
When did kris like more ralsei? When he vented about his problems and become less autist about the prophecy?
Anonymous No.527505098 >>527505220
>>527505031
Salt Route Spamton, Mayo Route Tenna... Apple Sauce Route Gerson?
Anonymous No.527505126
>>527504404
Do you expect Noelle to stand the entirety of you and Susie's intercourse?
Anonymous No.527505149
>>527505019
>troon
>now a canon rapist
clockwork.
Anonymous No.527505198
>>527505085
Chapter 3. Except Chapter 3 comes literally hours after Chapter 2, so I dunno when Kris flipped opinions on Ralsei
Anonymous No.527505201
I CAN'T STOP THINKING ABOUT RAMB
Anonymous No.527505219 >>527506032
>>527503904
I NEED TO RIDE HIS NOSE
Anonymous No.527505220
>>527505069
yes, i even wrote everything that happened in the dream i had
>>527505098
>Apple Sauce Route Gerson
He just gives you apple sauce and pats you on head saying you're a good sport
Anonymous No.527505238 >>527505826 >>527506032
>>527503904
TV!!! TIME!!
Anonymous No.527505267 >>527505329 >>527505336 >>527505374 >>527505390 >>527505447 >>527505748
which character is getting the next fangamer plushie?
Anonymous No.527505272 >>527507584 >>527507790
good day to you /utg/ anons
Anonymous No.527505308 >>527505374 >>527506165 >>527508204
>TV Sexyman is actually working in people
It's 2013 again
Anonymous No.527505329 >>527505374
>>527505267
the scrunkly quingus from Toby's next game circa 2040
Anonymous No.527505330 >>527505374
Drew a simple Noelle pic for you bros
Anonymous No.527505336
>>527505267
I’d put my 2 bal- I mean cents on a tenna plush
Anonymous No.527505374
>>527505308
"""people""" doing alot of heavy lifting here

>>527505267
Susie

>>527505329
Damn next chapters coming soon then

>>527505330
Nice work anon looks great
Anonymous No.527505390
>>527505267
Tenna, obviously. Though I'd love a Knight and Jackenstein
Anonymous No.527505447
>>527505267
>My prediction
Gerson and Shadow Mantle
>Reality
Gerson and Tenna
Anonymous No.527505490 >>527505534 >>527505724
Anonymous No.527505491 >>527505526
>>527504902
All 1000???

>>527504859
I don't think it fills?

>>527504992
>Pacifist run is act, then use minigames to get his points up to 1000. Bring TP plus shit if you getting filtered
Okay. So I should just keep doing the minigames and buy a ton of TV dinners?
Anonymous No.527505524 >>527505715
>>527505031
holy shit we're getting closer and closer to a tenna mayo route
Anonymous No.527505526 >>527505709
>>527505491
the minigames can give you up to like 100 each, it's not that hard.
Anonymous No.527505534 >>527505585 >>527505601 >>527505610 >>527505761
>>527505490
Is this fetish art?
Anonymous No.527505571 >>527506032
>>527503904
I LOVE FAT TV
Anonymous No.527505585
>>527505534
All art is fetish art, especially the fetish art
Anonymous No.527505598 >>527505853
Going to fully play Deltarune. If I go normal/Pacifist route, will I ever need to buy weapons upgrades? And it is worth it, or can I kill some mobs if needed?
Anonymous No.527505601
>>527505534
why? are you feeling fetished?
Anonymous No.527505610
>>527505534
most likely
Anonymous No.527505612
you can unlock the honey route by only recruiting head hathy and rudinn ranger in chapter 1 thus allowing you to recruit pippins in a fight in castle town's cafe in chapter 2 which triggers a flag for burgerpants and diaper guy entering the library dark world instead of susie and noelle
Anonymous No.527505661
Kris is a man but the red soul is woman.
The red soul is a yumejo sansfag cuckquean.
She jerked off with kris body on the fantasy of being cucked.
Kris felt awful after that
Anonymous No.527505706 >>527506180
Anonymous No.527505709
>>527505526
Jesus. Okay. I'll figure it. Thanks.
Anonymous No.527505710 >>527508328 >>527508350
The hammer of justice boss fight was way more fun than the fucking roaring knight
Anonymous No.527505715
>>527505524
>Tenna mayo route is just him actually smearing mayo on Spamton
kek
Anonymous No.527505724
>>527505490
>so fucking tired of it all that you want the 50 y/o prostitute with the voice of a person who's been chain-smoking since she was 12 to win.
Anonymous No.527505742
Just finished Chap 4 and seeing Toriel wine-drunk dancing with Sans is the funniest shit.
Anonymous No.527505748
>>527505267
Ramb has a very plushable bodyshape. I'd also like a generic plugboy and virovirokun plush
Anonymous No.527505761 >>527505835 >>527507976
>>527505534
For some reason boxing fetishism has slowly taken off recently and I have no idea why.
Anonymous No.527505826
>>527505238
Tenna would get one defintly

Imagine all of the spemtenna shippers having a Spamton and Tenna plushie, doing silly things with them
Anonymous No.527505827
im constantly feeling fucking cold and the weather is hot to mildly hot, like 26-27c outside
i have to wear fur socks to keep my feet warm
also im pale asfuck
should i go to see a doctor?
Anonymous No.527505835 >>527508103
>>527505761
Fighting is a bit like sex if you think about it.
Anonymous No.527505853
>>527505598
You shouldn't kill mobs in Pacifist. And yes, you'll need weapons.
Anonymous No.527505862 >>527505943 >>527505952 >>527506743 >>527506831
Can you believe that undertale will turn 10 in 3 months?
Anonymous No.527505921
Anonymous No.527505943
>>527505862
I remember playing it at my first year of university after seeing /v/ first discovered the goat mum meme.
Anonymous No.527505952 >>527506170
>>527505862
Will Toby do anything special? I know there's been a concert planned
Anonymous No.527505963 >>527506005 >>527506038 >>527506043
Why is cat mom barefoot unlike any of the other cats?
Anonymous No.527506005
>>527505963
she's a hippie
Anonymous No.527506032
>>527505219
Freaky
>>527505238
>>527505571
THE AUDIENCE LOVES TENNA! I LOVE TV
all of that tv talk reminds me of my old as hell tvsona oc from 2016 (unrelated to ut/dr, i had a phase)
Anonymous No.527506038
>>527505963
Gout that makes wearing shoots painful
Anonymous No.527506043 >>527506319
>>527505963
Didn't someone say they wanted to draw Cat Mom with a big butte?
Anonymous No.527506051 >>527506091 >>527506094 >>527506271 >>527506343 >>527507094 >>527508095
I'm loving how many people are drawing them in a dress now.
Anonymous No.527506075 >>527506465 >>527506780
>>527504580
look at that fat doe ass
Anonymous No.527506091 >>527506106
>>527506051
>them
Anonymous No.527506094 >>527506290
>>527506051
I think they're doing it because they're discovering the Kriselle content hidden in the code and they still want their lesbians
Anonymous No.527506106
>>527506091
them them them
Anonymous No.527506115 >>527506343
Anonymous No.527506165
>>527505308
toby only knows how to make fluffy boys, tomboys and sexymen and slight variations wherein
Anonymous No.527506170
>>527505952
Most likely, the easiest thing would be update the pc version with the console exclusive content.
Anonymous No.527506180 >>527506391
>>527505706
I WANNA BE A BIGSHOT!!
Anonymous No.527506271
>>527506051
Anonymous No.527506290 >>527506356
>>527506094
that's a shame because kris has a cock and balls under that dress
Anonymous No.527506307 >>527507867 >>527513034
is heartjob a thing irl?
Anonymous No.527506319
>>527506043
idk but if someone would do that it would be much appreciated
Anonymous No.527506343 >>527506521 >>527506707 >>527507978 >>527508623 >>527517253
>>527506115
>>527506051
>sexualization of minors is wrong
>unless it's heckin' wholesome LGBTerinos, chud
The worst part about any media that's too aggressively gay. The same kind of """people""" who get up in arms about Misty or May with revealing clothing will draw the horniest smutart of these characters.
Anonymous No.527506356
>>527506290
let them cope, anon
Anonymous No.527506391 >>527506479
>>527506180
YWN BE A [[BIG SHOT]]!!!!
YOU W ILL ALWAYS BE [[Little Sponge]]!
Anonymous No.527506402 >>527507867
YOU'RE LONG
Anonymous No.527506419
STOP MAKING THESE FUCKING FACES
Anonymous No.527506429 >>527506624 >>527506769
Is kris always misgendered as a male by normalfags? Or someone see them as a female?
Anonymous No.527506465 >>527506780
>>527506075
. . . yea
Anonymous No.527506479
>>527506391
A man can always dream.
Anonymous No.527506490
>>527504896
keep going nigga
Anonymous No.527506503 >>527506720 >>527507053 >>527507525 >>527507717
I fucking jacked off to noelle toddler image
Anonymous No.527506521
>>527506343
don't forget that its not just the fandom.
the game actively discourages you from an opinion, shoots it down and when you enforce it, you practically you are already down a genocide and a rape.

you become Oskar Dirlewanger.
Anonymous No.527506553
Anonymous No.527506572
These new chapters make me regret voting for Spamtons freedom in the sweepstakes, he deserves NOTHING.
Anonymous No.527506581 >>527506638
>>527504709
i think if susie and kris sandwiched her and just bullied her and teased and laughed at her for a few minutes her head would explode
Anonymous No.527506620 >>527506756 >>527507732
Tenna, but real
Anonymous No.527506624 >>527506736 >>527506806 >>527506938 >>527506997 >>527507169 >>527507314 >>527507573 >>527509601 >>527514627 >>527518163
>>527506429
>wears boy's clothes
>knighly armor and armament
>nothing feminine about his body type
>doesn't act feminine in any respect
>male name (Kris is a nickname derived from Kristofer)
People who just play the game and don't pay attention Twitter brainrot absolutely think Kris is a teen boy. Unless Toby grandstands about how, ackshually, Kris goes by "them" at some point, the ambiguous pronouns will fly over your average reader's head. Technically, "them" is most gramatically correct, anyways, since Kris is both himself AND a soul.
Anonymous No.527506638 >>527506717
>>527506581
Oh no the explosion was too powerful and Kris and Susie exploded too who will fulfill or break the prophecy now
Anonymous No.527506707
>>527506343
>sees character wearing a full body dress with no overt sexual characteristics
>mind instantly jumps to sexualization
why is every RW culture war chud like this
Anonymous No.527506717
>>527506638
>the vessel pulled out out of a dusty closet
>catti
>venom "punished" ralsei, a man denied his tea time
Anonymous No.527506720
>>527506503
Common shartoid L
Anonymous No.527506736 >>527506947
>>527506624
>Unless Toby grandstands about how, ackshually, Kris goes by "them" at some point
Secondary moment
Anonymous No.527506743 >>527506797
>>527505862
Is hard mode a goner?
Anonymous No.527506756
>>527506620
Anonymous No.527506769 >>527506927
>>527506429
Pretty much always male, Kris just presents too masculine.
Even with the tumblr/twitter crowd Kris is nearly always drawn masculine.
You'd actually have to go out of your way to feminize him.
People don't hate FemKris though but I don't think there are many that see it as their default interpretation
Anonymous No.527506780 >>527506827 >>527506838 >>527507179
>>527506075
>>527506465
Look at this
Anonymous No.527506797
>>527506743
seems like too much effort which i'd rather was used for deltarune
Anonymous No.527506806 >>527507170 >>527507271
>>527506624
i do not care about this argument but i will nonetheless chime in with the fact that kris can be short for "kristina"
Anonymous No.527506827
>>527506780
a mother's sacrifice; she gave all that ass to her daughter. tragic.
Anonymous No.527506831
>>527505862
Cave Story was 11 years old when Undertale came out
Much to think about
Anonymous No.527506838 >>527507042
>>527506780
That's 100% Rudy's genetics. No wonder he and Asgore are such good "friends"
Anonymous No.527506871
Anonymous No.527506927 >>527507118
>>527506769
even his alt outfits in the dark world are very cool masculine type. ralsei almost gets girlier / cuter fits than kris does, and ralsei is undoubtedly a boy.
Anonymous No.527506938 >>527507132
>>527506624
Male Susie...
Anonymous No.527506947
>>527506736
If Toby gave a speech about Kris's preferred pronouns, that doesn't matter since it's not in the game. The primary source. The only source that matters. The only source that most people will engage with. Secondaries are people who don't play the actual games, retard.
Anonymous No.527506997 >>527507265 >>527507271 >>527507450 >>527507453 >>527508274
>>527506624
I think it's because toby fox doesn't know how to really write a "severely austic or schizoid teen girl";
I say this because I couldn't; and it would also give the game away really fast;
I mean Kris doesn't even act feminine enough to be a teen boy like he is;
aside from not flinching when it comes to wearing female-coded costumes;

>kris could also equal kristine;
Anonymous No.527507042
>>527506838
Rudy is naturally thicc af he's just skinny in-game because of the cancer meds.
Anonymous No.527507053
>>527506503
link it
Anonymous No.527507061 >>527507168 >>527507408
Anonymous No.527507064
<3
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-OzmfWtYF6U
Anonymous No.527507078
Reindeer activated
Anonymous No.527507091 >>527507116
jumpscare from my twt feed
Anonymous No.527507094
>>527506051
>a teen in a dress is sexual
You are only exposing yourself as a degenerate pedo, not others.
Anonymous No.527507116
>>527507091
name it vessel
Anonymous No.527507118
>>527506927
Yeah, if Toby wanted to push it more, the nurse outfit in the Virovirokun ACT would've been more feminine than just being the Doctor outfit but with a different hat.
Anonymous No.527507132
>>527506938
Susie may dress like a boy and act extremely masculine, but everyone- including herself- refers to her as a girl. The irony is that the more gender ambiguity you introduce into language, the more people will identify folks based on their outward appearance. You're actively reinforcing gender roles with this bullshit.
Anonymous No.527507137 >>527507230 >>527507839
>anon just one mcdouble please
Noelle stop you already had your 2 cheeseburgers
>PLEASE anon i need just one more, im so hungry! (puppy eyes)
ok but just ONE ok?
Anonymous No.527507168
>>527507061
Toriel just puts ass-fattening ingredients in her pies, this is why Asriel is gonna come back from college looking twink as hell, he had years of a headstart on Kris.
Anonymous No.527507169 >>527507313
>>527506624
Amazing how mad shit that doesn't matter makes you
Anonymous No.527507170 >>527507416
>>527506806
Anyone who names their daughter 'kristina' is a genuine retard and probably black because those people just like replacing "Ch" with "K" for some damn reason. While you are technically correct, the odds of it being correct are astronomically remote considering Kris is evidently not black.
Anonymous No.527507179 >>527507372
>>527506780
>No butt
>No boobs
>Very mean :(
WHAT did Rudy see in this beast
Anonymous No.527507190 >>527507501
Was noelle being happy for being cucked necessary?
Anonymous No.527507214 >>527507770
No one wanted to watch TV anymore.

No one wanted to play games anymore.
Anonymous No.527507230
>>527507137
i have seen this image too many times
i would like to not see it again
Anonymous No.527507237
Anonymous No.527507265
>>527506997
>leaving her period pads everywhere/.

do monsters have periods;

and kris is at least like 14-16 at this point right? like he's almost the age asriel was when dess disappeared;
Anonymous No.527507271 >>527507297 >>527508435
>>527506806
>>527506997
Kris could equal Kristina or Kristin, but the nickname for those are "Krissy." It's not a Sam situation where that could be either Samuel or Samantha. There are a number of gender neutral names Mr. Foxworthy could have gone with, but he went with Kris- which doesn't really work- because he wanted the knife pun.
Anonymous No.527507297 >>527507375
>>527507271
It's an anagram of Frisk, dumb fuck
Anonymous No.527507313
>>527507169
>they explained themselves therefore they're angry!
Anonymous No.527507314 >>527507418 >>527507614
>>527506624
Pants and long sleeves aren't "boy clothes".
Women in knight armor are a thing.
Susie doesn't have visible tits, big hips or ass or anything "feminine" like that either.
Kris is also a girl name.
You are an idiot.
Anonymous No.527507359
The only other video game character named Kris I know is a girl
Anonymous No.527507372
>>527507179
He's a little worm of a man who likes to be dominated, because that is Toby's other fetish.
Anonymous No.527507375 >>527507504
>>527507297
Ah, yes, I forgot the silent F in Krisf, thank you anon for reminding me.
Anonymous No.527507404
Anonymous No.527507408
>>527507061
>stupid sexy flanders.jpg
Anonymous No.527507416
>>527507170
you're forgetting mormons globally, and midwestern americans of all denominations;

kristina or Kristine; are modest "novel spellings";

try "Krystienæ" or whatever elon musk names his kids
Anonymous No.527507418 >>527507561
>>527507314
>He's never seen the 'big mean girl' stereotype
Brudda, PLEASE.
Anonymous No.527507427
Toby shouldn't have made kris a varik clone if we're supposed to believe they are nb.
Anonymous No.527507434 >>527507530 >>527507560 >>527507792 >>527507829
>Still pronoun arguments
>7 YEARS IN
Anonymous No.527507450 >>527507645
>>527506997
Kris feels a lot like some FtM he/they people I've met who are pretty much just autistic girls who hate periods and dresses so much they rather look like scrawny prepubescent boys
Anonymous No.527507453 >>527507645
>>527506997
Someone here said the other day that Kris was extremely reminiscent of their autistic sister
Anonymous No.527507458
>nooo Kris is a male name!
>
Anonymous No.527507501
>>527507190
>emotionally abused by hre rich bitch mom
>church girl
>lesbian
>likes to be scared and endangered
>can be raped and set up for an arranged marriage
>kind of a cuck
it's like she was written just for me, toby.
Anonymous No.527507504
>>527507375
there's no F because Kris can't die or doesn't deserve respect if he does.
Anonymous No.527507508
I swear if someone out there makes a "Tenna playlist video" and doesn't include Broadcast Illusion and Colorbars I'm gonna be pissed off
Anonymous No.527507525
>>527506503
Anonymous No.527507530
>>527507434
gender ambiguity worked for the ut toddlers but not so good for the dr teenager
Anonymous No.527507539
I'm still feeling Kris IS short for Krismas because Rudy named him originally and the Dreemurrs are famously bad at naming things, and if they named Kris, his name would have ended up unironically being Ralsei.
Anonymous No.527507560
>>527507434
We're in purgatory forever
Anonymous No.527507561 >>527507823
>>527507418
I've seen girls like Susie. I've seen girls like Kris, too. None of them have "feminine" bodies for you, but they are still girls.
Just accept Kris can be male or female just like the author intended, retardo.
Anonymous No.527507572
the soul confronting Kris about the vessel being destroyed in chapter 6
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rrg1DaGuGvQ
Anonymous No.527507573 >>527518163
>>527506624
People just think masculine = male. If Susie had a neutral name and neutral pronouns you would have interpreted her as male too. I think it's fine to see him as a boy people just don't seem to get it's fine to see them as a they or her as a she none of it is correct except for the fact that they don't have a canon gender.
Anonymous No.527507584 >>527507771
>>527505272
howdy fren :)
Anonymous No.527507601 >>527507656
Dom't forset
Anonymous No.527507614 >>527507775
>>527507314
>Pants and long sleeves aren't "boy clothes".
No but the color palettes both he and Susie use are.
>Women in knight armor are a thing.
Very true. However, in fiction the amor emphasizes female proportions; in history, female armor was male armor that was too big and worn in extenuating circumstances (Joan of Arc wore a set of borrowed armor in part to protect her chastity).
>Susie doesn't have visible tits, big hips or ass or anything "feminine" like that either.
Everyone refers to Susie as she. By being ambiguous about Kris's identity, people will gravitate towards male. It worked better with Chara because people are A. less likely to self insert with a child, B. gender is almost wholly irrelevant, and C. Undertale was created a time when this discourse was almost wholly confined to Tumblr and feminist studies.
Anonymous No.527507620
>>527504404
for Noelle to watch Susie and her dad
Anonymous No.527507645
>>527507450
>>527507453
>it's a toriel has to explain to kris why "freebleeding" isn't an option if she wants to wear pants;
Anonymous No.527507656
>>527507601
Thanks doc
Anonymous No.527507678 >>527507721 >>527507749 >>527507754 >>527508006
this shit is reminding me of the early ut days when some people thought mettaton was a woman
Anonymous No.527507694 >>527508501
so how do i access to switch 2 content in the game?
Anonymous No.527507707
Seam and Monster Kid are also nb but probably they are even more thought as male then kris.
Anonymous No.527507717
>>527506503
Anonymous No.527507721
>>527507678
i'll make him one on god
Anonymous No.527507732 >>527507905
>>527506620
>I love watching TV!
>really? you’re not just saying that because I could snap your arm like a twig?
Anonymous No.527507749
>>527507678
eay mistake to make since he's a diva
Anonymous No.527507754
>>527507678
Alphys too
Ralsei as well
Anonymous No.527507762 >>527507862 >>527507945
There's some particularly vile coomers out today. Maybe chemical castration for young men is a good idea
Anonymous No.527507765
>>527482142
They reached adulthood through their parents.
Anonymous No.527507770
>>527507214
Is it bad that I'm hoping Dess will be dead and stay dead because I don't want it to be weird/in-law incest for Kris and Noelle to get together
Anonymous No.527507771 >>527507970
>>527507584
dumb smelly goober
Anonymous No.527507775
>>527507614
>green and yellow with brown bottom means you are a boy!
>if Kris was a girl their armor would have tits!
>if they aren't confirmed boy or girl they must be a boy!
You are such a sad idiot
Anonymous No.527507790
>>527505272
I KNEW IT
I knew I remembered her chat sprite looking like some hunched bitch, her hair in your image making me think it was her body.
I am not a schizo
Anonymous No.527507792 >>527507857 >>527507891
>>527507434
>7 YEARS
Anon...
Anonymous No.527507794 >>527507894
Fish I wish
Anonymous No.527507823 >>527508042
>>527507561
I would do that if Kris showed any female traits including physical traits whatsoever. He doesn't from what I see. He looks like an autistic and/or creepy male kid who went through some childhood shit (parental divorce) with an overachieving brother damaging his ego further. I see nothing about him that indicates he's a girl over a guy.

If someone wants to paint him like that then whatever, that's on them. Doesn't make them right.
Anonymous No.527507829 >>527509224
>>527507434
People need to figure out if Kris's actions are an EVIL man DEFLOWERING an INNOCENT lesbian or a STUNNING and BRAVE heccin' WHOLESOME enby engaging in HETERO NORMATIVE DEFYING intercourse.
Anonymous No.527507839
>>527507137
EAT A SALAD
Anonymous No.527507846
>>527504404
It's actually a suicide chair.
Anonymous No.527507857
>>527507792
>I want to be suplexed by undyne!
based
Anonymous No.527507862 >>527508106
>>527507762
>Maybe chemical castration for young men is a good idea
maybe the state should just give me a sex doll robot or some vr matrix so i can creampie a woman and let off some steam?
Anonymous No.527507865 >>527507912 >>527507936 >>527507957 >>527507981 >>527508397
which character has the biggest tits
Anonymous No.527507867
>>527506402
Thats at least a 30% gaster chance, would have to check the length of Kris’s feet first though
>>527506307
KALI MA
Anonymous No.527507891 >>527508007
>>527507792
I really thought we'd be done with thus shit by 2025 and we could just have they/them characters without bitching but here we are
Anonymous No.527507894 >>527508215
>>527507794
Anonymous No.527507905
>>527507732
I'd let Tenna snap my arms like a twig fr

i might have been a TV lover way before Tenna arrived but didn't realize it back then...and i made a fucking TV oc good god have I been in love with weird TV characters this whole time without realising it?
Anonymous No.527507912 >>527507960
>>527507865
Catty
Anonymous No.527507914
Frisk and Chara are the only believable nb/ambigous gender made by toby
Anonymous No.527507936
>>527507865
I think it's a tie between Catty and Cat mom.
Anonymous No.527507945 >>527507979 >>527508019
>>527507762
>the non-gays make me feel uncomfortable
Anonymous No.527507948
>>527504151
These all suck ass.
Anonymous No.527507957
>>527507865
Going by in-game graphics it seems to be Catty
Anonymous No.527507960 >>527508056 >>527508273
>>527507912
Cutest cattus (alongside her sister)
Anonymous No.527507970
>>527507771
Anonymous No.527507976
>>527505761
Its always been up, new nigga
Anonymous No.527507978
>>527506343
would you rather they wear a burkha
Anonymous No.527507979 >>527508062 >>527508162
>>527507945
There's a dude jacking off to toddler Noelle in here
And another guy getting off to a dad raping his daughter
Anonymous No.527507981
>>527507865
probably Catty/Catti's mom
Anonymous No.527508006 >>527508079
>>527507678
Ironically Mettaton is ftm.
Anonymous No.527508007 >>527508113 >>527508190 >>527508669 >>527511496
>>527507891
For me the funniest part isn't even me getting upset when people see Kris as a boy (I don't really care that much), but that certain people get so fucking bent out of shape when I say I see them as an enby. These people will hem and haw all day about SJWs policing their language and then turn around and do the exact same thing to you if you think in a way that doesn't fit inside their narrow prescriptive worldview.
Anonymous No.527508019
>>527507945
Spamton is so cute, he needs to be squished under my ass
Anonymous No.527508042 >>527508190
>>527507823
>well it's conpletely ambiguous but by default I understand that as masculine so...
So pretty much borrowing your own words, if you want to paint them like that then whatever, that's on you. Doesn't make you right.
Anonymous No.527508056
>>527507960
>(alongside her sister)
We actually don't know that, since we have never seen the front of Catti's torso.
Anonymous No.527508062 >>527508105 >>527508250 >>527508704
>>527507979
>There's a dude jacking off to toddler Noelle in here
that was just shitposting for (yous) and you know it
Anonymous No.527508079
>>527508006
mettaton is ghost-to-male. the ghosts seem nappstablooik and mad dummy use they them (iirc, it's been a while), we could assume mettaton was the same before getting a more personable body.
Anonymous No.527508095
>>527506051
I love boys that dress like hasidic jewish girls
Anonymous No.527508103
>>527505835
hairy peepees clash, they say β€œyes, yes!” but their grody faces say β€œouch”
Anonymous No.527508105
>>527508062
anon...
Anonymous No.527508106
>>527507862
the notion of sex as a "need" is bullshit, you can go forever without having sex and not go rape crazy
if you "needed" it you'd get a prostitute, what you "need" is social validation
Anonymous No.527508113
>>527508007
These guys are like 100x more sensitive than the "tumblrites/sjws/wokies/whatever" they claim to hate, they see pronouns and have a tantrum. It's tiring. Whi cares
Anonymous No.527508129 >>527509114
Anonymous No.527508162
>>527507979
anons here are made in unorthodox fashion.
you are making me choose between kiddo-diddlers and faggots.
Anonymous No.527508186
It's either too early or too late in the day for you to start your schizophrenic Kris' gender samefagged argument
Anonymous No.527508190 >>527508425 >>527508623
>>527508042
>>527508007
The question:
>Will normies see Kris as non-binary?
My answer:
>They will see him as masculine because of A, B, C
Your response
>certain people get so fucking bent out of shape when I say I see them as an enby
Personally, Kris comes across as the shut-in weirdo who would probably shoot up a school if nobody reaches out to him in time. Everything else is secondary or even tertiary.
Anonymous No.527508204
>>527505308
Tenna feels almost artificial in his sexyman-ness, not surprised that the Ramb fanbase is building up almost as quickly.
Anonymous No.527508215 >>527508291
>>527507894
The Omega-3 is good for you ...?
Anonymous No.527508250
>>527508062
UTDR attracts many fuzzy cwitters fags so I believe him
Anonymous No.527508273
>>527507960
I see why Asriel went for her
Anonymous No.527508274 >>527508369 >>527508597 >>527508851 >>527509192
>>527506997
You know how little boys often act gay because they just hang out with their mom all the time and copy her mannerisms? If Toby was a competent writer Kris would have been more like that, but he gave all those traits to Ralsei/Asriel.
Anonymous No.527508291
>>527508215
the mercury is not~
careful with that.
don't want that in your liver.
Anonymous No.527508306 >>527508462 >>527508920
>>527504860
tenna nose milk or starlo head milk no there is not an option to kill yourself
Anonymous No.527508328
>>527505710
shit taste, knight was kino
Anonymous No.527508340 >>527508409
Tenna's nose going flaccid....
Anonymous No.527508349 >>527508492
The heart to heart before the rape made me ship Kriselle.
Anonymous No.527508350 >>527508960 >>527518572
>>527505710
Eating dry wall is more fun than fighting the knight.
Anonymous No.527508369 >>527508437
>>527508274
>You know how little boys often act gay because they just hang out with their mom all the time and copy her mannerisms?
no, i don't
Anonymous No.527508397
>>527507865
The Original Titwalker
Anonymous No.527508401 >>527508528 >>527508548
This is the oldest fully developed version of the argument I could find, i.e. "Frisk initially looks like a self-insert but turns out not to be one so they/them is literal"
https://archived.moe/vg/thread/124302357/#124326092
We've been at this for 9 years and 192 days
Here's to another decade!
Anonymous No.527508409
>>527508340
Keep feeding him to get it up again
Anonymous No.527508425
>>527508190
Schizo what are you saying
People call Kris a they because it's how they go ingame, stop with your coping
Anonymous No.527508435
>>527507271
Half the town calls him Krissy
Anonymous No.527508437
>>527508369
Manly influencers taught him moms make their kids gay or something
Anonymous No.527508462
>>527508306
Given the options I think Starlo milk is probably better
He's a healthy guy
Anonymous No.527508492 >>527508803 >>527508849
>>527508349
same here. goddamn. that cemented it as kino tragedy. you know what gets me? they only have that heart to heart if you're on weird route. if you didn't do all that, they remain estranged.
Anonymous No.527508501
>>527507694
6453
Anonymous No.527508512 >>527508581
how fat is Rouxls’ ass
Anonymous No.527508528
>>527508401
Based archeologist
We're in hell
Anonymous No.527508531
Anonymous No.527508548
>>527508401
two weeks ago i would've mocked the idea of an overweight toddler "looking" like a self insert. but now i self insert as a heart shaped object.
Anonymous No.527508563 >>527508649 >>527508816
Anonymous No.527508568
Its very telling that every real woman streamer that plays Deltarune thinks Kris is a boy and will even misread pronouns as he/him subconsciously.
Anonymous No.527508573
Anonymous No.527508581 >>527508620
>>527508512
The info we have is that it's nice but not big
Less Catty more Bratty
Anonymous No.527508597
>>527508274
Nobody knows what insane shit happens in your head bro
Anonymous No.527508620
>>527508581
it may or may not be bouncy
Anonymous No.527508623
>>527508190
I wasn't talking to you specifically. Any time someone uses they/them pronouns for Kris or portrays them in a gender neutral way, it's a 50/50 chance for some dipshit to sperg out about it. There's literally one further up the thread >>527506343
Anonymous No.527508649
>>527508563
AUGH
NOOOOO
HUEK
STOP ATTACKI-
NOOOOO
Anonymous No.527508669
>>527508007
As a normal person, relatively at least. when I refer to people, i'll say they/their/them in any case.
"What did liam dicks the male guy do yesterday?"
"Oh 'they' fucking died.
>its him
Doesn't happen
Anonymous No.527508693 >>527508809 >>527508885 >>527508961 >>527508969
i wonder if toby decided to make kris they/them specifically so /utg/ will continue to be intermittently unusable for the foreseeable future
Anonymous No.527508698
>transvestigator trash
Anonymous No.527508704 >>527509076 >>527509194
>>527508062
Soulcentinels Noelle is just too sexy
Anonymous No.527508725 >>527508835 >>527508879 >>527509014
New Elnina pics from the designer dropped
Anonymous No.527508737
Anonymous No.527508742 >>527508804
Ramb sacrificed himself to help you beat the Knight, he’s a suicide cord, a sacrificial Ramb.
Anonymous No.527508760
Anonymous No.527508771
Anonymous No.527508791
Honestly kris could as well be a girl that was raised as a boy because monsters are pretty much ignorant about human culture.
Anonymous No.527508803 >>527509002
>>527508492
chapter 5 may change that, it was originally supposed to ship with chapters 3 and 4, there's stuff in the code, and...well, I believe owing to Route consistency, like with Chapter 2, Kris and Noelle are going on that Ferris Wheel.

...on what's most likely December 1st
...during which I imagine it's going to snow
...and Kris has shown more autonomous comfort to his friends in chapter 4
Anonymous No.527508804 >>527508894
>>527508742
>Toby's trying to be Japanese even down to translating L and R wrong
Anonymous No.527508809
>>527508693
yes
Anonymous No.527508816
>>527508563
NOOOOOOOOOOOOO AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHH
Anonymous No.527508835 >>527508920
>>527508725
built for B SC
Anonymous No.527508849 >>527509002
>>527508492
i choose to hope
maybe susie's emotional obliviousness kicks in and she thinks she's meant to be wingman and not object of affection
Anonymous No.527508851
>>527508274
>You know how little boys often act gay because they just hang out with their mom all the time and copy her mannerisms?
No? You might be telling on yourself, dude.
Anonymous No.527508879
>>527508725
Damn sexy Muppet
Anonymous No.527508885
>>527508693
I can't believe Toby is tsundere for me and teasing me like this ooh la la
Anonymous No.527508894
>>527508804
its kinda funny cuz in japanese its just ramu
Anonymous No.527508920
>>527508835
fuck too many spaces
you get the picture
>>527508306
anyone got that picture of the whole gang sucking his headtits
Anonymous No.527508934 >>527509072
=)
Anonymous No.527508936
Anonymous No.527508960
>>527508350
maybe if you're bad at video games
Anonymous No.527508961
>>527508693
He did not anticipate people would be this stupid in 2025
Anonymous No.527508969
>>527508693
It can be an interesting discussion if we talk how toby design a they/them/genderambigous character and if he failed/succeeded to do that.
Anonymous No.527508991
Anonymous No.527509002 >>527509075
>>527508803
>normal route: awkward but sweet reconnecting friendship
>weird route: the most strained date you've ever had to sit through
would be awesome
>>527508849
that'd be cute but i do not trust toby not to yuribait at every opportunity.
Anonymous No.527509014 >>527509085
>>527508725
You will never, under any circumstances, convince me that this shit isn't on purpose.
Anonymous No.527509061
Anonymous No.527509072
>>527508934
>NOOOOOO NOOOO I'LL ACKNOWLEDGE THE PRONOUNS I SWEAR JUST DON'T DO THAT
Anonymous No.527509075 >>527509124
>>527509002
>Berdley route: twenty minute lecture about classic games
Anonymous No.527509076
>>527508704
it's just loli
Anonymous No.527509085 >>527509325
>>527509014
i think that says more about your taste in women than anything
Anonymous No.527509092 >>527509197 >>527509212 >>527509326 >>527509368
Anonymous No.527509114 >>527509261 >>527509418
>>527508129
These two are cute together. As friends.
Anonymous No.527509124
>>527509075
>not a legitimate tutorial on how to play marth in smash melee
Anonymous No.527509176 >>527509243
Anonymous No.527509182
Anonymous No.527509183
Anonymous No.527509184 >>527509364 >>527509368 >>527509409
I notice this argument is rarely, if ever, had about Frisk. All it took was shorts, I guess. Kris should've had a skirt.
Anonymous No.527509192
>>527508274
Dude seek help
Anonymous No.527509194
>>527508704
question: why did you feel the need to communicate that with us?
Anonymous No.527509197 >>527509614 >>527509823
>>527509092
did he always have that stilted captain kirk dialogue? and why does he spell shit wrong in the church?
Anonymous No.527509212
>>527509092
wtf Jockington that's a really rude way to start a conversation.
Anonymous No.527509224
>>527507829
This but unironically. The rose scene wasnt rape because its impossible for a non cis neuroatypical minority to rape a wealthy elite cis because rape is about power and theres a massive power imbalance. If Noelle falsely accused Kris of rape theyd lynch them immediately. Conversely if they accused Noelle thered be no justice.
Anonymous No.527509243
>>527509176
let us dress kris in a skirt damn it
Anonymous No.527509261
>>527509114
part of me thinks Catti is going to get things 'backwards' and think Kris is pulling Noelle 'into the dark' only in Neutral/Pacifist but won't make such a claim in Snowgrave
Anonymous No.527509290 >>527509495
the soul has so much aura it make kris's hair fly everywhere when they say me
Anonymous No.527509318
Anonymous No.527509323 >>527509431 >>527509505 >>527510083
Is Kris refereed to as "he" in the russian or any other translations?
Anonymous No.527509325 >>527509497
>>527509085
>Muffet
>Clover
>Tasque Manager
>Elnina
>Miss Mizzle
No. It's absolutely intentional.
Anonymous No.527509326
>>527509092
Dialog isnt grug enough
Anonymous No.527509360
Anonymous No.527509364 >>527509730
>>527509184
Believe me, it's just because Kris is more masculine-coded and takes precedence. Back in the day there were a lot of arguments over Frisk and Chara and even now you'll get people sniping that they must be boys or must be girls instead of accepting that humans are ambiguous.
Anonymous No.527509368
>>527509184
>shorts
its a onesie
>>527509092
I’ve found reading his dialogue in Duffman’s voice enhances it
Anonymous No.527509386 >>527509451 >>527509467 >>527509497 >>527509541
soem fuckding tiktom autist corected on me on the deltarune gender lore and the essay kicked off with β€˜ah yes’ And a stream of bulshit concerning kris autonomy They made it sound like i Raped him basicsly Im a rapisg now Hi whats up
Anonymous No.527509401
>reached the end of media with Tenna tag arts
god damn it...welp, time for the tumblr/pixiv saves now
Anonymous No.527509409 >>527509730
>>527509184
Small children are androgynous by nature and Frisk is barely a character to begin with so no one cares.
Anonymous No.527509418
>>527509114
I used to be pretty into Cattelle back in the chapter 1 days but now I prefer them as close friends
It feels better for Catti to be mad at Susie because she's afraid she's gonna hurt her friend than because she's upset about losing her crush and all that
Anonymous No.527509426 >>527509539 >>527509596
Oh is Ramb supposed to be a Lamb and a Ram? I dont get it
Anonymous No.527509431
>>527509323
Deltarune is only available in english and japanese, and in japanese Kris is only "aitsu" (that person), never "kare" (that man) nor "kanojo" (that woman).
Anonymous No.527509451 >>527509568 >>527509582
>>527509386
Nobody cares that you lost a TikTok argument
Anonymous No.527509454
Anonymous No.527509467 >>527509693
>>527509386
screenshit it
Anonymous No.527509493 >>527509698
How are Tenna and Spamton connected? I don't mean in terms of character, I mean how were they ever in content before the present events? Jevil's the joker card; he and Seam are both in the storage room or were in the kindergarten classroom together. Spamton is literally spam and is probably ON Queen's laptop form. Yet, Tenna's a literal television set and the game doesn't even play up the commercial aspect of broadcast TV. There's a connection between advertisement in the TV age and on the internet... is that how they know each other? The whole thing just feels really poorly thought out.
Anonymous No.527509495 >>527509556 >>527509596
>>527509290
>aura
I am starting to hate zoomer speak so much. It reminds me of the 90s, during that mercifully short period where people unironically used the words 'radical' and 'tubular'. Dear god shut the fuck up.
Anonymous No.527509497 >>527509892
>>527509325
why do you want to fuck the muppet
>>527509386
>essay kicked off with β€œah yes”
like 50% sure an AI wrote it
Anonymous No.527509505
>>527509323
What translations? The game only exists in english and japanese, every other language is fan made.
Anonymous No.527509539 >>527509647
>>527509426
Video games have RAM and he's associated with the scary Snowgrave game... Somehow, we don't really have enough info yet since he vanishes afterwards
Anonymous No.527509541
>>527509386
Thank you for raping Kris
Anonymous No.527509556 >>527509665
>>527509495
Anon "aura" is a genuine english word and they're not even using it incorrectly, it's just gratuitous.
Anonymous No.527509568
>>527509451
I care, could go for a laugh
Anonymous No.527509582
>>527509451
Niga it wasnt even an Arguement i was obiously joking but autistics are autistic
Anonymous No.527509596
>>527509426
his last name is Utan, he’s fruity.
>>527509495
be excellent to each other.
Anonymous No.527509601
>>527506624
>Kristal
Anonymous No.527509606 >>527509673 >>527509676
Carol would complain on fox news that the they/them groomed her daughter
Anonymous No.527509610
Anonymous No.527509614 >>527509759 >>527509823 >>527509829 >>527510016 >>527510623
>>527509197
He always used an excessive amount of commas, but Toby made him sound way more stupid in Chapter 4 and I don't know why.
Anonymous No.527509647 >>527509759
>>527509539
I guess he didn't have enough RAM.
Anonymous No.527509665
>>527509556
oh fuck off
Anonymous No.527509673
>>527509606
Carol wants Kris to rape Noelle tho
Anonymous No.527509676
>>527509606
That'd just make /v/ and /utg/ wanna fuck her more
Anonymous No.527509679
Anonymous No.527509693 >>527510018 >>527510109 >>527510226
>>527509467
Anonymous No.527509698 >>527509853 >>527509867
>>527509493
Ramb talks about how the first three Dark Worlds connect
During the Sword route the in-game Tenna you meet talks about how he knew Spamton and then says
>... I WISH THEY NEVER BROUGHT THAT LAPTOP HOME...
Anonymous No.527509704
aura
Anonymous No.527509707 >>527509764 >>527510004 >>527510062 >>527510084 >>527526532
what compels someone to make art like this of Ralsei and what is it suppose to evoke in the straight person looking at it?
Anonymous No.527509730
>>527509364
>humans are ambiguous
Seriously. Telling you, humans in UT/DR are hermaphrodites. The bit is too consistent to be otherwise.

>>527509409
>Frisk is barely a character
I will cut you if you keep talking shit about my precious child.
Anonymous No.527509759 >>527509862
>>527509614
he realized he hasn’t added a himbo to the game and needs to get more tumblr users for his audience
>>527509647
how much dedotated wam?
Anonymous No.527509764
>>527509707
sex
Anonymous No.527509823
>>527509197
>>527509614
>don't write a character for half a decade
>forget the voice you gave him
If you've ever run a TTRPG and reintroduced a NPC after a long time, you know the feeling.
Anonymous No.527509829 >>527510032
>>527509614
Chapter 4 and the end of 3 felt a little bad on the excessive ellipsis too. I think they're trying to emulate a dramatic cadence of speech too much in text boxes
Anonymous No.527509853
>>527509698
Why do all the other Darkners have long memories but Ralsei has nothing?
Anonymous No.527509862 >>527509925 >>527509945
>>527509759
Jockington was already a dumb himbo but now he's straight up retarded.
Anonymous No.527509867
>>527509698
Was laptop used for romhacking the Sword game?
Anonymous No.527509873
Anyone got the sprite of Kris with the chocolate milk
Anonymous No.527509881 >>527509919 >>527509993
I still say radical and rad unironically.
Anonymous No.527509892 >>527510061 >>527510169 >>527510317 >>527512158
>>527509497
>why do you want to fuck the muppet
Because she's designed to make me want to fuck her. The fact that she's objectively funnier, likeable, and more entertaining than the actual Muppets helps a lot.
Anonymous No.527509919 >>527510074
>>527509881
You sound rad
Anonymous No.527509925
>>527509862
Toby gave my son every disease
Anonymous No.527509945
>>527509862
Jockington is a fucking angel you brat
Anonymous No.527509993 >>527510074
>>527509881
totally tubular?
Anonymous No.527510004
>>527509707
>straight
It's art for gay pedo
Anonymous No.527510016
>>527509614
>thinking toby still writes the script
Anonymous No.527510018 >>527510325
>>527509693
>the average poster on 4chan is equivalent to lowiq tiktok posters now
We used to have standards
Anonymous No.527510024
Kris obviously isn't a girl, if he was he'd be in a skirt with a big bow tie in his hair that's the only way I can tell if something is a girl or not I am a 37 year old brown man who argues about this stuff with teenage children on an anime porn forum
Anonymous No.527510032 >>527510278
>>527509829
>excessive ellipsis
It's normalized in Japanese media. The same with the stuttering shock thing. Traditionally, you would write out the character pausing in literature or have the textbox close and then reopen a second or two later. Nowadays, the massive influx of Japanese media has led to these being spread to English authors, along with a number of phrases that feel weird/stilted.
Anonymous No.527510045 >>527510318
Tenna literally keeps me from having a crash out
I LOVE TV
Anonymous No.527510052 >>527510339
>It'd be nice to... have someone to watch it with again.
>Heheh.
>... what about, uh, Catti? Doesn't she like scary stuff?
>Umm... well, she just... takes it a little serious?
>Like, analyzes all the magic and stuff. It's a little...
>Haha, that's wicked annoying.
>Umm, no, no! ... but... yes.

Toby is calling you people out here
Anonymous No.527510061 >>527510312
>>527509892
>objectively funnier, likeable, and more entertaining than the actual Muppets
get the fuck out.
Anonymous No.527510062 >>527510114
>>527509707
>straight person
Those don't exist.
Anonymous No.527510074 >>527510131 >>527510270
>>527509919
>>527509993
Cowabunga.
Anonymous No.527510083
>>527509323
I checked this mod: https://vgtimes.com/games/deltarune/files/84337-russian-localization.html
I can't read Russian but it looks like they avoid pronouns altogether
Anonymous No.527510084
>>527509707
Shotas are like a third gender
Anonymous No.527510108
Because we can't see Kris's eyes and check for long eyelashes there is no way to tell what gender they are
Anonymous No.527510109 >>527510469
>>527509693
oh no... anon... this... I don't think this makes you look as good as you think it makes you look...
Anonymous No.527510114
>>527510062
Anonymous No.527510131
>>527510074
sometimes /utg/ is okay.
Anonymous No.527510169 >>527510547
>>527509892
>doesn't like the muppets
This is objectively the worst fanbase currently active
Anonymous No.527510226 >>527510879
>>527509693
Lol, what a retard. It's obvious that the reason Toby even made Kris a "they" was to make it easier for more people to self insert, making it more shocking when Kris takes control from us
Anonymous No.527510235
Kris is a self insert. Kris having their own thoughts doesnt make them not a self insert, so does every other fucking self insert in media. Noelle is a bigger self insert than Kris.
Anonymous No.527510250 >>527510491
Headpat your TV!
Anonymous No.527510270 >>527510972
>>527510074
i don't mean to startel you, but...
Anonymous No.527510278
>>527510032
>english speaking characters go SORAH, URIAH, HORA HORA, YOSSHAA
drives me nuts
Anonymous No.527510280
oh my god guys!
it's almost krismas!
can you believe it!?
krismas is almost here!
i am so happy about this information!
Anonymous No.527510290
Anonymous No.527510312 >>527510429
>>527510061
The Muppets are trash and always have been. I hate that frog and his lame ass troupe of unfunny hacks.

And frankly, your immediate kneejerk response is part of why they suck. The fucking parasitic nostalgia means you're literally not allowed to dislike something if it's old enough. I never liked the Muppets, and if I dare express that, a bunch of drones swarm like locusts.
Anonymous No.527510317 >>527510547
>>527509892
>she's objectively funnier, likeable, and more entertaining than the actual Muppets helps a lot.
Anonymous No.527510318 >>527510590
>>527510045
Yeah, I love all his art! I was just ok with Tenna but all the fanart is good so I became obsessed with him.
I think Tenna got more high quality in character art of him than Spamton. People drew Spamton to tall and neat when the chapter first came out.
Anonymous No.527510325
>>527510018
>we use to have standards
But did you reaaaallly? twitter nigs still run amok these threads, i think /v/ is more of a dumpster than /trash. I swear i recognise som posters from 2010 roblox some rimes
Anonymous No.527510334
Anonymous No.527510339
>>527510052
Toby can say what he wants, I got pretty much every guess I made right because I'm not a Mike/Friend Schizoposter
Anonymous No.527510381
Jockington is the knight, the β€œdeer” helmet is actually a serpent with it’s tongue split in two, the reason they’re on top of his head is that he’s always looking up to [HEAVEN], also he has a pointed tail
Anonymous No.527510385 >>527510481
>>527503764 (OP)
I'm old!
Anonymous No.527510405 >>527510595 >>527511887
>torial had her autistic preteen oniicompex daughter sleep in the same room as her hormonal teenage goat son at some point for multiple years
What the actual fuck was she thinking ?
Anonymous No.527510409 >>527510465 >>527510515 >>527510654 >>527512964
What causes this behavior: >>527468316 ? Why the fanbase is like that?
Anonymous No.527510427
Anonymous No.527510429
>>527510312
you are allowed to dislike the muppets. you are just looking for someone to tell you what is and isnt right instead of choosing for yourself
Anonymous No.527510436
Anonymous No.527510465
>>527510409
Some people just don't like headcanons pushed as fact
Anonymous No.527510469 >>527510571 >>527510578 >>527510591
>>527510109
>deleted it
that's even funnier because that means they probably weren't trolling and really did think that screencap made them look good
Anonymous No.527510480 >>527511023
Kris's real pronouns are PRE/TTY
Because they're CUTE AS FUCK
Anonymous No.527510481
>>527510385
Me when I turned 25
Anonymous No.527510491 >>527510524
>>527510250
Tenna "Toriel patted my head ????"
Asriel "How nice..."
Susie "Huh"
Toriel "Oh my, oh no, the television stopped working again."
SFX: BANG BANG BANG
Anonymous No.527510515
>>527510409
faggot doomsday cult
Anonymous No.527510524 >>527510581
>>527510491
Asriel isn't in this image
Anonymous No.527510547
>>527510169
>>527510317
Rainbow Connection is a bad song.
Anonymous No.527510554
Anonymous No.527510558
donde esta mis pantalones
Anonymous No.527510571
>>527510469
what was the screencap
Anonymous No.527510578 >>527510659
>>527510469
>make me look good
Wtfa? someone wanted 2 see. Im not a boy BTW … if u even care…. ….
Do my coments also send u into a gametheory TED talk rage?? Say i3t
Anonymous No.527510580 >>527510672 >>527510782 >>527510846
>>527503764 (OP)
Does anyone else just walk around everywhere? I only really hold the sprint button if I'm backtracking or if the puzzle needs sprinting.
Anonymous No.527510581
>>527510524
Asriel, (dust, piles of)
Anonymous No.527510590
>>527510318
>got more high quality arts than Spamton
well yeah, most of spamton designs were just making him taller and sexier, he needed to be a small sexy trash man not a 12ft one...that's reserved for Tenna now
Anonymous No.527510591 >>527511672
>>527510469
I thought he deleted it because anon said he was a boy and he's been roleplaying a severely autistic 12-year-old girl in the thread
Anonymous No.527510595 >>527511171
>>527510405
Asriel is older than Kris, the puberty years barely overlap, and they are a post-divorce family in a small town, makes sense they just can't afford having a room for each kid.
Anonymous No.527510610 >>527511000
>kris is enby
>always masc presenting in all outfits and gestures
>ralsei is a boy
>gets the cutest and most feminine hobbies, outfits, and demeanors
not fair
Anonymous No.527510623
>>527509614
I just assumed it was a play on the "jocks are stupid" trope
Anonymous No.527510654 >>527510763
>>527510409
does anyone even call him they? can't remember desu.
Anonymous No.527510659 >>527510752
>>527510578
>Well Im. a Boy So kris is One Also since i wm Self projecting
>Im not a boy BTW
Pick one and only one
Anonymous No.527510672
>>527510580
You are completely insane but I respect your hustle
Anonymous No.527510684 >>527510882
Anonymous No.527510687 >>527510826
Best mommy on account of all the others being awful.
Anonymous No.527510695
The annoying thing about the debate is the fact that people can't accept there's no fucking answer you're just as hecking valid for thinking kris raped noelle with their big cock as the people that think they're muff diving lesbians Toby WANTs you to think of it in whatever way you prefer what is hard to understand about that.
Anonymous No.527510752
>>527510659
niga i was joking.
Anonymous No.527510756
never forgetti the cruel fate of EEEE poster
Anonymous No.527510763
>>527510654
literally everyone. low quality bait 2/10 got me to respond
Anonymous No.527510773
I prefer female kris because so the goatpedos wouldn't use him as a selfinsert
Anonymous No.527510782
>>527510580
i walked a lot in chapters 3 and 4 to not miss any kino moments and make things more atmospheric. like how in chapter 4 susies dark world church clears of the fog when the percussion kicks in and you can miss it if you run through
Anonymous No.527510787
every chapter it gets increasingly funny that toby fox grew up with two good and loving parents
Anonymous No.527510821
Anonymous No.527510826
>>527510687
She hasn't made Catty get a job so Catti supports the family by herself
Anonymous No.527510846
>>527510580
I'm surprised Susie doesn't complain. I was walking because I forgot I could run and she went DID YOU FORGET YOU CAN RUN? (yes)
Anonymous No.527510850
Anonymous No.527510879 >>527510989 >>527511157 >>527511504
>>527510226
It didnt work because Kris isnt gender neutral enough. Most girls stopped self inserting and started to think they were playing as a boy as soon as Toriel wakes you up.
Sure there are girls that shorten Christina to Chris, but thats super uncommon. Toby should have picked a name thats initials like JC or made up a non gendered name like Ralsei.
Anonymous No.527510882
>>527510684
orange tabbies are dumb as rocks. kris...
Anonymous No.527510913
Anonymous No.527510936
Anonymous No.527510965 >>527511014 >>527511063 >>527511073 >>527511123 >>527511189 >>527511535
Is there any real proof of Dess being the Knight or is people just deluding themselves because Toby doesn't knows how to make the sprite of a sword?
Anonymous No.527510972
>>527510270
The wristband needs to be edited into a watch
Anonymous No.527510989 >>527511558
>>527510879
>literally not a single gender defined trait, like Frisk, except they are taller
>"not gender neutral enough"
You can't get more neutral than looking like you didn't even experience puberty yet.
Anonymous No.527510991
Does anyone even remember the hidden BIG SHOT lyrics about the knight pulling the strings and making them ring?

I think what Spamton means about being a BIG SHOT is being a part of the prophecy, Spamton used to pull the strings but now the knight does like he used to do.

Kris isn't a part of the prophecy, the Soul is which is why Spamton is asking him if he wants to be a BIG SHOT and not just a puppet anymore
Anonymous No.527511000 >>527511156 >>527511324 >>527511728
>>527510610
>supposedly masc presenting
>every character consistently refers to them by neutral pronouns
>even characters they have not met
...
Anonymous No.527511014
>>527510965
the muted guitar sound when another hand pushes you back if you try and backtrack after susie sees the last prophecy part
Anonymous No.527511023
>>527510480
True!
Anonymous No.527511060
Shut the fuck up about pronouns you melt brained clots
Anonymous No.527511063
>>527510965
>what's 2 + 2 and give me a real answer I don't want to hear that 4 bullshit
Anonymous No.527511064
Anonymous No.527511073 >>527511560
>>527510965
>the Lost Girl Leitmotif is in Black Knife
Anonymous No.527511095 >>527512228
Noelle’s blog post about the egg that doesn’t hatch is foreshadowing the eggs being a requirement to play as the vessel, i know it to be true but lack the words to properly explain it
Anonymous No.527511123 >>527511194
>>527510965
Dark/star element, her boyfriend used similiar attacks in undertale.
Anonymous No.527511156
>>527511000
they’re just degrading him its emphasis on how he never be his own person
Anonymous No.527511157 >>527511254 >>527511289 >>527511291 >>527511323
>>527510879
If Kris is a girl
>She wears boys deodorant
>She nearly bulimic
>She slept in the same room as her hormonal teenage older brother (who she thinks about constantly) for years
>She wears skin tight spandex in the dark world
>She carries around a knife in her back pocket
>She's an actual fucking gremlin child who foxy jumpscares people for fun
Kris is either a mildly autistic boy or a severely mentally ill girl.
Anonymous No.527511160
Anonymous No.527511171 >>527511331
>>527510595
If Kris is 16 and Asriel is 18/19 thats fucked anon.
Anonymous No.527511189
>>527510965
theres no hard proof but dess as a character is the most adjacent to being the knight. sword looks like a bat, horns, connected to kris, does the same pose as kris, is a lightner
Anonymous No.527511194 >>527511407
>>527511123
also the drums at the start kind of sound like burn in despair but maybe thats just me
Anonymous No.527511240 >>527511321
Sex with the player
Anonymous No.527511254
>>527511157
>or a severely mentally ill girl
h...hot...
Anonymous No.527511289
>>527511157
It's normal for a human to be severely mentally ill if raised by monsters.
Anonymous No.527511291 >>527511848
>>527511157
I am now remembering the nasty greentexts where girl Kris seduces a very guilty asriel.
Anonymous No.527511317 >>527511502
I genuinely like the idea that Kris has hauntingly beautiful eyes. They do the concealed look because being too gorgeous has gotten them in trouble a few times.
Anonymous No.527511321
>>527511240
thank fuck i'm not the only one who imagined this
Anonymous No.527511323
>>527511157
>>She wears boys deodorant
Anon that's Asriel's deodorant.
>"Haha, the apple smelling kid and their pizza stank brother!"
Anonymous No.527511324 >>527511525
>>527511000
everyone in-universe magically knows eveyone's pronouns, same as in deltarune. but irl players mistake kris for masculine all the time. even women. almost all the time they're misgendered it's by using he/him.
what i'm saying is i want the opportunity to dress kris in more feminine clothes. don't let ralsei hog all the cute.
Anonymous No.527511331
>>527511171
that susie is so funny looking what is this from
Anonymous No.527511386
Anonymous No.527511407
>>527511194
It shares that with BURNING EYES
Anonymous No.527511426
Anonymous No.527511427 >>527511507
You know the point is that it doesn't matter, right? I do think Toby missed the mark, though.
Anonymous No.527511445 >>527511519
Does anyone have the link to a video of a song mashup with Noelle in a gir outfit? It was posted in thread before
Anonymous No.527511463 >>527511523 >>527511547 >>527511583 >>527511657 >>527511717 >>527511739 >>527511819 >>527511928 >>527511930 >>527511948 >>527512000 >>527512070 >>527512256
So, anons:

Are you a they/them Kris truther, a he/him Kris contrarian, or a she/her Kris madman?
Anonymous No.527511496
>>527508007
>(I don't really care that much)
stfu then. stopping this argument is as simple as that, you complete retard. just stop posting things like this. you don't get to complain about the argument AND perpetuate it in the same breath, that's insane.
Anonymous No.527511502
>>527511317
hell yes, that needs to be used in more fanart.
Anonymous No.527511504
>>527510879
I read Russian fiction about someone who's reincarnated into a dungeon. Said person almost immediately starts to use neuter pronouns and neuter gendered words to refer to itself. It was weird as hell. Neuter gender isn't really used for people, it's usually used for aliens, unidentified creatures, etc. Sure, old fairy tales used neuter gender when referring to "Sun" character, but the said character was a husband with wife and kids, so...
I wonder how Toby would translate Kris into gendered languages...
Anonymous No.527511507
>>527511427
The point is Kris can be whatever you want them to be, same as Frisk and Chara, but people don't want to respect that because the internet is a hive for the close-minded.
Anonymous No.527511519
>>527511445
all i know is that it’s siivagunner
Anonymous No.527511523
>>527511463
Kris is she/him
Anonymous No.527511525 >>527511723 >>527511774
>>527511324
>what i'm saying is i want the opportunity to dress kris in more feminine clothes.
A sentiment I agree with. You have the ability to put a definitive end to this argument, Toby. Give them a skirt.
Anonymous No.527511535 >>527511598
>>527510965
>Noelle (Noel=Christmas) Holiday
>daughter of Rudy (Rudolph) Holiday
>sister of Dess (December) Holiday
>her ideal room in the cyber world has a calendar with December 25 in all days
>her watch is stuck on 12:25
>best weapon is a thorn ring like Christ's thorn crown
>idea of flying in a dream is getting angelic wings

>all CHRISTmas references
And the Knight has horns like the Holidays and holes in their palms like Christ in the cross.
Anonymous No.527511547
>>527511463
he/him. my argument is that fem kris art is much rarer and its always treated as genderbending
Anonymous No.527511548
I accept Kris is canonically they/them but use he/him in discussion out of spite.
Anonymous No.527511558 >>527511735
>>527510989
Thinking Kris's lack of primary aecual characteristics is enough makes sense if youre autistic (where do you think we are) and cant recognize the social cues of gender. You fail to understand how even the act of constantly reading the most common male name can override the thoughts of most people.
Anonymous No.527511560 >>527511635
>>527511073
Also in Raise Up Your Bat
Anonymous No.527511583
>>527511463
I like both but imo femkris should have small boobs
Anonymous No.527511598
>>527511535
>Noel
one more reason to hate the french
Anonymous No.527511613
Kris is taking a she/it
Anonymous No.527511635
>>527511560
speaking of
>the rock show minigame features a guitar with only two buttons to press as prompts
>Dess' guitar only features two strings
>this isn't a sprite limitation thing, you can quite literally hear that it only has two strings when Susie's strumming it
Anonymous No.527511656
I believe that Carol has wanted Kris's human SOUL since even before Dess and is probably related to why they were adopted into the Dreemurr family in the first place
I have no hard evidence for it this is just a vibe I have
Anonymous No.527511657 >>527511723 >>527511738
>>527511463
it/its
Anonymous No.527511672 >>527511876
>>527510591
>autistic 12-year old
Nooopppeee that yuo guise.. But unliek some gender gatekepers , Im acualy very Zen, Litle boy *lifts ur chin gently* U can Call me anything.
Anonymous No.527511701 >>527511813 >>527512760
Fuck it let's make it an official poll:

Kris's gender poll:
https://strawpoll.com/eNg6vW074gA
The most voted one becomes CANON. Democracy is law.
Anonymous No.527511717
>>527511463
It/its vessel chad here
Anonymous No.527511723
>>527511525
we already have the ribbons and those girly princess gloves from chapter 4 but they aren’t visible
>>527511657
same vibe as that one evil ass batter picture
Anonymous No.527511728 >>527512458
>>527511000
This completely shatters any sense of Kris being their own person and not a puppet. You cant make a non binary character completely devoid of the non binary experience.
Anonymous No.527511735
>>527511558
Anon Kris is explicitly called they all the time, there's nothing else to recognize, don't project your autism on others
Anonymous No.527511738
>>527511657
i tits
Anonymous No.527511739 >>527511940
>>527511463
She/her futa kris with cute little perky tits and a fat fucking cock/pussy combo
Anonymous No.527511749
Anonymous No.527511774 >>527511935 >>527512013
>>527511525
honestly the constant misgendering is a product of the fact they are just extremely 'teenage boy school shooter' in how they are presented and how they dress. a vast majority of people doing it aren't spiteful /utg/ regulars or men who self-insert as kris, they're just clocking them for how they are presented in-game. it's just... i mean christ look at them kek. LET ME PUT THEM IN A SKIRT, TOBY
Anonymous No.527511813
>>527511701
>IP grabbing link
Nice try
Anonymous No.527511819
>>527511463
They/them
For pedantic lore discussion it's the obvious choice, I don't respect people who try to get technical about canon but then use he/him (though for casual discussion it's whatever)
For fan fiction I think it's more interesting
Anonymous No.527511834 >>527511914 >>527511916 >>527511926 >>527512017 >>527512032
So is Gerson's letter ever gonna be addressed again or is it just gonna be left open ended?
Anonymous No.527511848
>>527511291
screencaps?
Anonymous No.527511862 >>527511918 >>527512051 >>527512904
Non binary as a concept offends me more than trannies do desu
Anonymous No.527511868 >>527511939
Kris is they/them but is 100% masc coded don't fucking lie to yourself seeing someone make the mistake makes sense.
But then also insisting on calling them he/him when proven factually wrong is retarded.
Anonymous No.527511876 >>527512006 >>527512260
>>527511672
your. gimmick. isn’t. funny.
Anonymous No.527511887 >>527512073
>>527510405
Not unbelievable since, if you want to think Kris is male, she offered the same thing to Susie minus age gap.
Anonymous No.527511914
>>527511834
We'll probably see Alvin sometime later being melancholic and resolving to practice his writing.
Anonymous No.527511916 >>527512258
>>527511834
What's open-ended about it?
Anonymous No.527511918
>>527511862
same coin, different side.
Anonymous No.527511926
>>527511834
>Kris and Susie are about to get in massive trouble over the church being messed up
>Alvin reads the letter and Knows that it's real (because he's in on it)
>Convinces everyone that they're innocent
Anonymous No.527511928
>>527511463
kris is a they/them because i don't care about the useless gender arguments and calling kris a they/them makes it easier to not accidentally misgender people i meet in real life that do care that much about gender
Anonymous No.527511930
>>527511463
I've never respected the idea of gender. Sexually dimorphic pronouns exist to identify your sex and nothing more. I will never understand people who view this issue from outside of that utilitarian mindset. Their minds are clouded by emotion and possibly drugs.
Anonymous No.527511935 >>527512003 >>527512449
>>527511774
Similar to how most people confuse Ramb for an old lady.
Anonymous No.527511939 >>527512030
>>527511868
This is about shuttah
Anonymous No.527511940
>>527511739
>cock/pussy combo
cant jack both
Anonymous No.527511948
>>527511463
Whichever upsets Kris the most
Anonymous No.527511958
Anonymous No.527512000
>>527511463
They/them truther but I see them as masc so sometimes I use he/him but I give them a male or female body based on whatever I'm in the mood for.
Anonymous No.527512003
>>527511935
i'm guilty of this kek
Anonymous No.527512006
>>527511876
Oh hony, Am not gimicking. I am Everything, all that has been, Al that is, all that Ever will be…. *Tear silently run down my cheek* I Am KROS!
Anonymous No.527512013 >>527512191
>>527511774
At the very least let them rock a midriff.
Anonymous No.527512017 >>527512404
>>527511834
you pulled this image off of a gaming news website didnt you
Anonymous No.527512030
>>527511939
There's no way anyone had any problems with shuttah.
Anonymous No.527512032 >>527512182
>>527511834
Alvin will panic and assume it's some kind of poorly worded threat to go along with his wrecked church
Anonymous No.527512051 >>527512336
>>527511862
>the existence of people who do nothing against me offends me
What a miserable being you are
Anonymous No.527512056 >>527512760
Preliminary votes.

It's not looking good mascKris bros, you better Pokemon Go To The Polls if you want your headcanon to become canon.
Anonymous No.527512070
>>527511463
Contraian because author has not expressly said anything and they look like a boy. If Toby gave a shit he'd have it actually said.
Anonymous No.527512073 >>527512524
>>527511887
Do you think she would stop them from fucking if she heard it or would she just be really passive aggressive about it in the morning ?
Anonymous No.527512079 >>527512173 >>527512284 >>527512436
Kris is a masc they/them but has a pussy.
Anonymous No.527512158 >>527512281 >>527512960
>>527509892
>hating on the Muppets
I think the cloud is sexo too but holy shit how could someone have such objectively bad opinions?
Anonymous No.527512167
Non binary as a conept makes my peeny bigger than trannies do desu
Anonymous No.527512173
>>527512079
This I accept
Anonymous No.527512182
>>527512032
nah, i can see alvin taking the letter innocently
if they STOLE gerson's ashes, though, THEN there'd be a problem.
Anonymous No.527512191
>>527512013
fucking yes. NEED.
Anonymous No.527512203
enough pronoun talk
Anonymous No.527512228
>>527511095
>has no idea about it’s motives or properties
>randomly disappears one day before she can do anything with it
>had a name she conveniently forgot
>can’t move it (because no soul)
want your vessel? COLLECT MY EGGS.
Anonymous No.527512256
>>527511463
Madman, if kris is female less faggots that treat deltarune like a faggot adventure.
Anonymous No.527512258
>>527511916
It's directed at Alvin but as it stands right now we know more about Gerson than we do about him, which is weird since he might be involved with the whole shelter conspiracy (the Deltarune is seemingly connected to the religion of the world)
Anonymous No.527512260
>>527511876
Im 100% sure your a FOID (also) , yuo dont need to feel so terortial swethart.. (unless your brown) This is a Sfe place (unless your brown)../v/ is almoset like a todlers krib.. Minors eveywhere
Anonymous No.527512261
I pronounce it "Weedy Gaster"
I don't think I've ever once actually read it as "Dubya Dee Gaster"
Anonymous No.527512279 >>527512385 >>527512446 >>527512461
These gender arguments are pissing me off
Anonymous No.527512281 >>527512960
>>527512158
i dont get the muppet humor. its like watered down vaudeville
Anonymous No.527512284
>>527512079
How many?
Anonymous No.527512309
Kris is seen as they/them by everyone else.
But identify with it/its because they want to dehumanize themselves due to ~trauma~
Anonymous No.527512336 >>527512405 >>527512415 >>527512465 >>527515471
>>527512051
>destroying the social fabric to appease 0.0001% of mentally ill is nothing
Anonymous No.527512362
Anonymous No.527512376 >>527512574
>astral project time travel to 2011
>come to Toby in a dream
>"Kris shouldn't be alone, make Susie enby too so it'll be a point of bonding for them"
>Susie becomes Sloane (they/them)
>You waifu disintegrates before your eyes
Anonymous No.527512385
>>527512279
Anonymous No.527512404
>>527512017
I could not be bothered to go back and take a screencap myself I'm too lazy for that
Anonymous No.527512405 >>527512567 >>527512604 >>527512713 >>527512834
>>527512336
being polite isnt transgressive anon
Anonymous No.527512415
>>527512336
You're on a 4chan thread about a game made for thirteen years old Tumblr kids.
Anonymous No.527512419 >>527512480 >>527512663 >>527512687
This comic is 8 years old lmao
Anonymous No.527512436
>>527512079
Puffy too, she's got a fuckin fatty between her legs and that shits sealed tight. Pussykris is the kind of person to try masturbating once, feeling ashamed and never doing it again
Anonymous No.527512446 >>527512676
>>527512279
If Toby just said in plain English "Kris is non-binary" these arguments would stop forever. He wants this.
Anonymous No.527512449
>>527511935
Thats because Toby doesnt know how british people talk.
Anonymous No.527512458
>>527511728
the nonbinary experience is just being a massive attention-starved contrarian faggot that everyone placates but secretly resents for making even the simple act of referring to them involve unnecessary drama
Anonymous No.527512461 >>527512580 >>527512730
>>527512279
ORIGINALITY: makes Harry somewhat annoyed at things.
Anonymous No.527512465
>>527512336
>in my mentally ill mind they are the ill ones and are destroying society!
You are such a sorry excuse of a human being.
Anonymous No.527512480
>>527512419
Anonymous No.527512492
>story presents a world in which gender identity and sexuality are aggressively a non-issue and literally nobody in-universe even acknowledges it
>fanbase insists on getting into violent arguments about said topics
God this shit is tiring.
Anonymous No.527512517
Anonymous No.527512524
>>527512073
She would definitely barge in
Anonymous No.527512527 >>527512679 >>527512830 >>527513282 >>527513731
why did dess do it bros
Anonymous No.527512565 >>527512873
What are the most interesting new theories?
Goner hand?
Anonymous No.527512567 >>527512764
>>527512405
nta but validating a schizo's delusions to be polite is harmful. that anon believes it's on that level.
Anonymous No.527512568 >>527512769 >>527514991
I WAITED

FOUR YEARS

SO I CAN SAY GO FUCK YOURSELF TO THIS ANON
Anonymous No.527512574 >>527512863
>>527512376
Cute. Its like Krisriel without the incest
Anonymous No.527512580 >>527512730
>>527512461
>"These communists are PISSING ME OFF."
>"I'm the Original DETECTIVE."
Anonymous No.527512581 >>527512783 >>527512808 >>527512998
> the reason Ralsei is shitting himself when you say you want to bring Noelle to the festival is because HE KNOWS that if it'll happen Kris and Noelle will be able to reconnect and admit their feelings for each other, thus making it so that love finds itself to the girl
Anonymous No.527512604
>>527512405
NTA but being a loud faggot about things no one is allowed to speak negatively of breaks a social contract that will always end in some sort of violence and the verbal one is the least of your concerns.
Anonymous No.527512663 >>527512753
>>527512419
Anonymous No.527512676
>>527512446
Not really, it's still too vague. It's not an identity.
Anonymous No.527512679
>>527512527
the gender neutral shota THOCK was too alluring
Anonymous No.527512687
>>527512419
And now it's canon. Amazing.
Anonymous No.527512693 >>527513118
I'll be honest, if Kruselle doesn't become canon and the teasing exists purely to subvert expectations, I'll actually literally kneel in awe at the Foxman's cojones. I don't even dislike the ship inherently, I just don't expect him to do it.
Anonymous No.527512713 >>527512937 >>527513039
>>527512405
>oh you wont appease my madness? youre being impolite! and you know how society sees impolite people and what being known as an impolite person entails. but I have done nothing to you.
Anonymous No.527512730 >>527513157
>>527512580
>>527512461
>Starwalker.
>Arriving.
>On the scene.
Anonymous No.527512745
Anonymous No.527512753
>>527512663
"Deltarune is waiting", haha, toby you dog.
Anonymous No.527512760
>>527511701
>>527512056
Why isn't there an "ambiguious" option?
Anonymous No.527512764
>>527512567
being polite doesnt mean being a doormat. being polite to an obviously mentally ill person means being calm and using kind language while getting them help
Anonymous No.527512769
>>527512568
Talking about theories that are wrong, can we finally admit that the whole
>Ralsei is actually le evil
Theory was wrong?
Anonymous No.527512772
robbie vulpine please give us Ralsei Rancher
Anonymous No.527512783
>>527512581
>The only way to save the world is to cuck Noelle
Okay toby, you got me, that would be really funny
Anonymous No.527512808
>>527512581
don't you worry ralsei i will make sure kris and noelle will be too traumatized to feel anything but despair. no love here.
Anonymous No.527512814 >>527512948 >>527512964 >>527513036 >>527513381
>people in the thread genuinely conjuring up non-binary ghosts who loudly proclaim it and are assholes about it
>"yeah but THEY'RE the schizos! not me!"
are these obnoxious non-binary people who scream when you misgender them in the room with us anon?
Anonymous No.527512830 >>527512913
>>527512527
Timeloop, she had to avenge Noelle
Anonymous No.527512834 >>527513191
>>527512405
NTA, but I make a point of referring to people who insist on using strange or incorrect pronouns in ways that sidestep the need to use their preferred methods of address. I would never be impolite, but I'm not going to bend the knee.
Anonymous No.527512863
>>527512574
Why would you compare innocent Krusie art to a ship that's ONLY defining feature is being incest groomerslop
Are you stupid
Anonymous No.527512873 >>527512902
>>527512565
Ghost hand
Anonymous No.527512901 >>527513061 >>527513067 >>527513172 >>527513392
Do you think Krusie has a chance? Kris seems in love with her. I think they'll get sad if she gets more distant from them to be with Noelle. Might be a catalyst for some more deranged Kris options.

Actually, when you think about it whenever Kris has had the opportunity to do terrible shit it's because Susie and Noelle are around each other. They don't like it.
Anonymous No.527512902
>>527512873
THE SEVERED HAND!
Anonymous No.527512904 >>527513143
>>527511862
I know it means different things to different people but, to me, it means I don't care about gender at all, like a sort of gender nihilism. It's just the closest label so that's what I use.
It's silly to assume men can't like ""girly"" things and vice versa AND said interests don't need to be reflected in how you present yourself
Any kind of assumption is bad, even "teehee, they're an egg, give them time" bullshit
Anonymous No.527512913
>>527512830
I might have a genuine brain tumor I thought it said timeslop
Anonymous No.527512937
>>527512713
And so the mask falls away, you don't think they're being assertive, you think they're insane. Well, sorry to say that sanity is a social construct to begin with, and it is in fact rude to not appease someone's madness.
Anonymous No.527512948 >>527513317
>>527512814
>It's not happening
You're like 7 years too late for that.
Anonymous No.527512960 >>527513149
>>527512158
>objectively
The Muppets are trash. Fuck your nostalgia.

>>527512281
>its like watered down vaudeville
THIS. This is exactly why they suck. It's Vaudeville without the bite. It's so sanitized and sterile and trying way too hard to be wholesome and family friendly. It's so fucking fake in every way. I fucking hate this shit.
Anonymous No.527512964 >>527513317
>>527512814
Helo CHATGPT, see
>>527510409
Yes they are infesting ever corner of the internet. Also Can i Have 3 tarot cards?
Anonymous No.527512972 >>527513245
Anonymous No.527512978
Anonymous No.527512998
>>527512581
he's only shitting himself about it in Snowgrave, in Pacifist/Neutral he just assumes that Noelle likes Susie at that point in time because he witnessed Noelle's simping in Cyber World for the short time they were together.

Susie's probably going to lay into him in Chapter 5 when Ralsei indicates that he feels Noelle 'deserves it more for being a Lightner'
Anonymous No.527513034 >>527513730 >>527514380
>>527506307
That is called souplay my dear watson. Pic related is "Heartjob"...
Anonymous No.527513036 >>527513196 >>527513317
>>527512814
Anonymous No.527513039 >>527513389 >>527513502
>>527512713
youre arguing that one shouldnt have the right to insist on their identity, madam. what you want is peace for the benefit if suppression (a safe space if you will), which is not realistic
Anonymous No.527513061
>>527512901
I can only see kris and sussy as best bros, if they get romantic I feel like tbey'd be super awkward about it
Anonymous No.527513067 >>527513271
>>527512901
Until the scene where Susie makes Kris smell her hair I was pretty content to keep it at "freak bros" but now I'm just going "Unless?"
I'm not really married to any ship though
Anonymous No.527513118 >>527513383
>>527512693
>teasing
4chan once again failing to beat the incel allegations. Kris and Susie are besties. Period.

I swear, none of you have EVER had a friend.
Anonymous No.527513143 >>527513631 >>527513930
>>527512904
So why can't a man who likes girly things just be a man who likes girly things why do we need to invent this new category of person?
Anonymous No.527513149
>>527512960
Are you the same guy who was seething about Peanuts a few threads ago?
Anonymous No.527513157 >>527513524
>>527512730
Kris' vast, oceanic SOUL
Anonymous No.527513172 >>527513438 >>527513551 >>527514091
>>527512901
I will still ride with Krusielle as the best outcome (even though it's never gonna happen)
Anonymous No.527513181 >>527513281 >>527513304
>I had to stay totally out of sight, Holiday family ninja style
Rudy is the Knight and was hiding in all the closets
Anonymous No.527513191 >>527513609
>>527512834
isnt imposing your own preferred identity onto someone very rude? youre not being polite, youre being coy
Anonymous No.527513196 >>527513458
>>527513036
This isn't screaming, this is you getting assblasted over single-word corrections
Anonymous No.527513214
Anonymous No.527513245
>>527512972
I love how emo angsty kriselle art is
Anonymous No.527513251 >>527513310 >>527513384 >>527513469
>I'm non-binary so I don't conform to either gender spectrum traits or expectations
>Theoretically this should mean I don't give a fuck either way and I just wanna do my own thing without assigning labels to them
>Practical I just wanna be treated extra specially and get free praise for existing and having a very easy way to make problems with people when they misgender me by correctly assuming I am at the very least one person
Anonymous No.527513271
>>527513067
yeah that heroic pull to save her at the last moment, and the offer of her hair to sniff on, made me (someone who thinks they're better as bros4lyfe) lean forward eyebrow raised.
Anonymous No.527513281
>>527513181
But if the Knight was a Ninja it would have dual wield and be able to throw shurikens
Anonymous No.527513282 >>527513426
>>527512527
Dess wasnt the greatest person
Anonymous No.527513304 >>527518772
>>527513181
Wrong, we're going to fight Carol in a Dark World at some point and she'll be an ice ninja with a katana and snowflake shurikens.
Anonymous No.527513310
>>527513251
Wrong threaderino my duderino
Anonymous No.527513315
I love Channa
Anonymous No.527513317 >>527513539 >>527513658
>>527512948
So can you point them out to me or are we done here and you're gonna kneel?
>>527512964
>Y-YOU'RE NOT REAL! YOU'RE AI!
Meds now.
>>527513036
>Character called they/them in-game
>People correct others online, not even about themselves
>Literally the same as letting someone know a character they're calling he/him is actually a she/her
>Not even seething about it in the response, just a single word correction
If this is what you consider people throwing a shitfit then you shouldn't be here and go back to weenie hut jr's.
Anonymous No.527513341 >>527513404 >>527513443
So if the SOUL is you and you can be a psycho or a good person doesn't that mean you are always Chara in Undertale? Like it's not that Chara is a representation of players and the name is "coincidentally" the same or anything but literally the SOUL in Undertale actions is Chara's and you as Chara can choose to make Frisk be a psycho (like Chara was before) or a good guy.

And wouldn't that mean Chara has always been a (potentially) good guy?
Anonymous No.527513362 >>527513615 >>527513624 >>527513739
> We should probably refer to Kris as they/them in spite of the fact that their personality is obviously reminiscent of a weird autistic teenage boy. Toby Fox clearly intends for them to be referred to as they/them regardless of whether or not he intends them to be non-binary (probably because its Kris and the soul).
The correct answer.

> There is enough evidence to suggest that Kris is non-binary, it's a valid interpretation and what i think to be the most likely.
Completely reasonable.

> There is enough evidence to suggest that Kris is a boy, it's a valid interpretation and what i think to be the most likely.
Completely reasonable.

> ITS LITERALLY CANNON THAT KRIS IS NON BINARY YOU CANT FUCKING SAY OTHERWISE YOU CHUD *THEY *THEY *THEY *THEY *THEY *THEY
Fuck off, get a life.
Anonymous No.527513381 >>527513441
>>527512814
non binary ghost game
Anonymous No.527513383
>>527513118
i don't have a lot, but i have too many.
Anonymous No.527513384
>>527513251
a few people absolutely do abuse genderfluidness to be someone and abuse the universal position. but then again, it says more about you than anyone else if you treat all non binary people like theyre schemers
Anonymous No.527513389 >>527513906
>>527513039
One shouldn't have a right to insist on their identify if their identity isn't who they actually are.

If I insisted to other people that I was a doctor, or a child, or someone of a different ethnicity, people would quite rightly not respect that.
Anonymous No.527513392
>>527512901
I genuinely think Kris has feelings for both and them getting together and excluding them would be the worst possible scenario for Kris.

Like, on the level of Hometown alone, the only saving graces to Kris' shitty ass fucking life that just keeps getting worse are forming a great relationship with Susie, and potentially mending the one with Noelle. If Susie and Noelle suddenly decided to get together and start dating and turn Kris into a third wheel, shit's not gonna end well.
Anonymous No.527513393
>ITT: Statler and Waldorf’s edgy cousins rant while people yell about genders
Anonymous No.527513404
>>527513341
Chara has never been evil.
Anonymous No.527513417 >>527513528 >>527513594
Now here's a real highbrow, thought-provoking question:

Which Vocaloids would each of the Gang like?
Anonymous No.527513426 >>527513584 >>527513747 >>527513784 >>527514219
>>527513282
>now the theoryschizos are trying to connect Dess to Chara
Oh fuck off. Again, this is why Fox is starting to turn on his fanbase. You people are out of your minds, and it's a genuine problem.
Anonymous No.527513438
>>527513172
>the concept of throuples already introduced in the game
>Ralsei suggests all 3 of you have fun together at the festival
Toby might be crazy enough to do it. But I don't think any ships will be canon in the end because I expect at least 2 core characters to die. Kris will definitely be one.
Anonymous No.527513441
>>527513381
Napstablook...
Anonymous No.527513443 >>527513835
>>527513341
Good girl*
Anonymous No.527513458 >>527513538
>>527513196
>wawawa hes not yelling so it never happened
you’re splitting hairs, its frequent enough to be screaming
Anonymous No.527513469
>>527513251
The meds, dude, take them already.
Anonymous No.527513478
Seeing short video content slop of Deltarune with a guy speaking over clips feels bizarre
It feels like it's above that shit, like it's Real Literature or something
Anonymous No.527513502 >>527513709 >>527514053
>>527513039
If a man insisted his identity was Napoleon Bonaparte, why should I demean myself to respect it?
Anonymous No.527513524
>>527513157
Forcing Kris to fuck up all the important rolls and getting -20 Good Friend/Bad Friend score with Susie Gojiruki....
Anonymous No.527513528 >>527513620
>>527513417
What the fuck is a vocaloid?
Anonymous No.527513538 >>527514003
>>527513458
>Frequent
>Literally a bunch of individual people saying it once
Meds now.
Anonymous No.527513539
>>527513317
Oh so you're just going to be a disingenuous retard, got it. Enjoy your epic victory and last (You)
Anonymous No.527513551 >>527513982
>>527513172
>two childhood friends once estranged now reconnected
>two outcasts who became unlikely besties
>a mean girl and a softie with a mutual attraction
>a bully and the first two friends she made in town
yeah i'm thinking kino
Anonymous No.527513584 >>527513768
>>527513426
This is also how theoryschizos will try to connect anything to Asriel, we know nothing about that nigga yet everytime something happens there's always somebody trying to connect it to him
Anonymous No.527513594
>>527513417
>which voc-ACK!
video games?
Anonymous No.527513609 >>527514251
>>527513191
I'm not imposing anything, I just sidestep the issue entirely with clever language tricks. Maybe I sound strange and overly formal, but that's just how I speak to people in general, so it goes unnoticed.
Anonymous No.527513615 >>527514016
>>527513362
last point doesnt work. if theres two authoritative points of evidence that kris is nonbinary (toby fox and deltarune), are you not delusional for insisting theyre not? its an argument against what you can see with your own eyes
Anonymous No.527513620
>>527513528
... How the hell do you not know what Vocaloids are? Cause I guarantee you have absolutely seen at least one.
Anonymous No.527513624 >>527513789 >>527514224
>>527513362
>probably because its Kris and the soul
This is cope. Kris's family and friends know nothing about the SOUL being an independent entity. They all use they/them.
Anonymous No.527513631
>>527513143
That's just how it has to go in this current society. Society's views on gender aren't gonna disappear or vacillate overnight.
If society is bent on enforcing a binary way of thinking (all men do this, all women do that, and if you do different, you secretly want to be the opposite gender), then by definition anyone who doesn't fit in those "rules" wouldn't be part of that binary.
Anonymous No.527513634 >>527513735 >>527513932 >>527514030 >>527514068
My theory is that since Asriel is a confirmed Fat Bitches Lover (canonically dated Catty at one point) then Dess was also, by extention, a Fat Bitch.
Anonymous No.527513651 >>527513849 >>527513913
Kris is a male who uses they/them pronouns.
Anonymous No.527513658 >>527513775
>>527513317
Kek funny how it went from β€˜this never happens’ to β€˜well its justified when it does’ your dodging the point.
>weenie hut jr’s
Kys
Anonymous No.527513709 >>527514478
>>527513502
if i met such a person i wouldn't act as though he were the actual current emperor of france but i would at least call him napoleon if he insisted
Anonymous No.527513710 >>527514042
Here's my prediction. Susie will be at a boiling point at Festival after all that shit she, "Kris" and Ralsei went through. Then Noelle would come and say something innocently insensitive about Ralsei and Susie would explode. Our role would be to reconcile them. In the end Susie will say to Noelle that everything's compliced, there's a lot of shit going on, let's postpone the whole "romance" thing until later and let's just hang out. So Kris, Susie, Berdly, and Noelle hang out and have fun together.
Anonymous No.527513730 >>527514007
>>527513034
soup play?
Anonymous No.527513731
>>527512527
he cute
Anonymous No.527513735 >>527513821 >>527514068
>>527513634
He liked Catty for being purple, not for being fat
Anonymous No.527513737 >>527513936
If Toby includes a chastisement over Kris' pronouns I'm gonna uninstall and never concern myself with what happens in the next chapters; The greatest works of art are created as an offering to Eternity, the worst are created for mere mortals.
Anonymous No.527513739 >>527514456
>>527513362
>author writes Kris as a they
>so Kris isn't a he nor a she, Kris is a they
What's so hard to understand here you literal schizo..?
Anonymous No.527513747 >>527513984
>>527513426
>Toby Fox HATES his fanbase!
>Toby Fox is turning on his fanbase!
>Toby Fox hates what hes created!!!
This is the most schizo theory of all and I genuinely don't understand why spergs always inevitably obsess over the concept of "creator HATES their fans!!!" for every fandom in existence. Is it contrarianism? Is it a setup so you can fantasize about being one of the standout Good Ones that restores the authors faith in humanity? Explain this stupid meme to me
Anonymous No.527513768 >>527514142
>>527513584
I'm so tired of the Asriel shit. I want him to be the most normal, boring motherfucker in the world. He comes home from college, and literally NOTHING happens with him. It'd be the funniest shit in the world to watch the schizo meltdown.
Anonymous No.527513769
I want more Jevil, Spamton, Ramb (forced to larp and dress up as ERAM/Shadow Mantle) and Gerson shenanigans
Anonymous No.527513775
>>527513658
>Point out how screaming about it never happens
>Attempts to show example where people aren't screaming about it and being fairly calm
>Apparently moved goal posts
Meds now and learn how to comprehend an argument ESL.
Anonymous No.527513784
>>527513426
>starting to
Anonymous No.527513789
>>527513624
obligatory
Anonymous No.527513821
>>527513735
That's what he wants you to think.
Anonymous No.527513835
>>527513443
Chara is always the same sex as the player. So if you're a girl, then sure.
Anonymous No.527513849
>>527513651
This is my headcanon
Anonymous No.527513858
Anonymous No.527513906
>>527513389
but again, your argument is that instead of someone defining who they are for themselves, YOU should be able to define who THEY are for the sake of keeping yourself comfortable. we arent talking about procedurally provable titles or like severely lying on a resume. its extremely egotistic, inconsiderate and very very far from polite on your part
Anonymous No.527513913
>>527513651
for porn reasons i agree
Anonymous No.527513918
Kris is a ken doll and how no genitals like all tobyverse humans, thus has no concept of gender now can we all shut the fuck up?
Anonymous No.527513930 >>527514063
>>527513143
Non binary people arent men who like girly things or vice versa. Theyre people who dont identify as male or female for various reasons, such as not really believing in male or girly things. I mean. think about it, why would Kris wearing makeup or a dress signal non binary or girly when both of these things would be masculine in ancient persia or greece? If they were born in some cultures they might not be wearing any clothes. Even blue used to be the girl color like 100 years ago. Its arbitrary bullshit.

Non binary people are NOT people who look or are trying to be in between male and female, they reject those for the social constructs they are. Low IQs wont get it.
Anonymous No.527513932
>>527513634
Asriel just likes pussy it's not that complicated.
Anonymous No.527513936 >>527514247
>>527513737
>The greatest works of art are created as an offering to the Onions, worst are created for mere Sneed
It's gay lil game about gay animals what the fuck are you on about
Anonymous No.527513953 >>527514001
>Toby writing the self insert of the game: They
>some assmad retard for some reason: NO NO NO KRIS IS SUPPOSED TO BE A GUY OKAY??
Anonymous No.527513969 >>527514118
I think the soul working as a separate entity functioned better in Undertale. It was a twist at the very end of the game and you were piloting a child's corpse. In the Pacifist (IE good) ending, you healed your puppet's mind and body, leaving him to be adopted by Toriel and have an actual life. In the Genocide ending, you reawakened your host's dying thoughts and created a psychopath who wants nothing more than to kill.

In Deltarune, we're a separate entity from chapter one and it's going to be difficult to thread the needle of Kris being a separate actor from the player. It worked in Baten Kaitos, as an example, since you were more explicitly some sort of guiding force that the protagonist actually addressed. Then, when he went over to the villains, you speak to the rest of the party for the first time, revealing yourself and leading them directly from that point on. If Toby can handle the tension over the remaining chapters, it could make something both novel and really good, but I think it's just as likely to collapse like a souffle.
Anonymous No.527513982 >>527514310
>>527513551
it's PEAK
Anonymous No.527513984
>>527513747
Every creator SHOULD hate their fans. Fans are horrid pieces of shit. Any creator who doesn't hate their fans is just as much of a mentally ill freak.
Anonymous No.527514001 >>527514049
>>527513953
kris isn't a self insert
Anonymous No.527514003 >>527514274
>>527513538
>zooming into each instance individually to minimize the effect
Filtered
Anonymous No.527514007 >>527514132
>>527513730
Soul-play, I is retarded... Scratch that, I got to wake up by melting my brain skimming through another fucking gender argument just trying to get images/potential greens. Can humanity for once stop vindicating Chara's misanthropy via general stupidity for once? Same as it ever was. Same As It Ever Was. SAME AS IT EVER WAS!
Anonymous No.527514016 >>527514601
>>527513615
The last point is don't be an annoying cunt about it because then no one's going to listen to you regardless of whatever evidence you may have. Cannon is what is explicitly stated in the game, not what is implied.

Toby had the opportunity to end it once and for all, by having the one scene in the light world where Kris gets an outfit change, and he doesn't put them in a dress. I think it's safe to say that if he intended them to be explicitly non-binary, rather that just unstated, ambiguous or multiple people, he would have done something like putting Kris in a dress.
Anonymous No.527514026 >>527514551 >>527514553
Gaster giving y'all schizophrenia
Anonymous No.527514030
>>527513634
built for the snow...
Anonymous No.527514042
>>527513710
I think since Susie probably saw a bad end relating to "LOVE" for (what she thinks is) her she's going to be uncomfortable with Noelle now and push her away.

This will send Noelle into Kris's arms in the main route, unknowingly setting the actual girl up for "LOVE" (level of violence).
Anonymous No.527514049 >>527514149 >>527514208
>>527514001
Your self is literally inserted into Kris dummy.
Anonymous No.527514053 >>527514478
>>527513502
madam, if someone claims to be a historical figure really seriously, id entertain them long enough to leave. if someone tells me they identify as nonbinary, a limit within themselves, im going to be respectful. im not a brat
Anonymous No.527514063
>>527513930
Anon I appreciate your genuine arguement, but you are arguing about gender on 4chan where the average 4chinner doesn't even comprehend the idea of 'cultural gender signifiers' and geniuenly believes pink is associated with femininity on a genetic level. You would have more success arguing with your wall.
Anonymous No.527514068 >>527514249
>>527513634
>>527513735
Turns out they never dated, Catty just thinks so and spreads the narrative. Asriel is canonically a Yoshi main after all
Anonymous No.527514091 >>527514170 >>527514324 >>527514379
>>527513172
Toby made an entire anti throuple arc to shit on you. Let it go.
Anonymous No.527514118
>>527513969
I thought the bit where Kris tries to smack you with a hockey stick but eavesdrops when the girls are gossiping about them was very good at separating player and player character personally
Anonymous No.527514132 >>527514551
>>527514007
the only thing we know is that Chara is scottish
Anonymous No.527514142
>>527513768
As it stands right now this is actually what is going on, Asriel isn't related to the story at all because he's in college
Anonymous No.527514149 >>527514223 >>527514235 >>527514240 >>527514603
>>527514049
>inserting yourself into a teenager
Anonymous No.527514170 >>527514382 >>527514436
>>527514091
the only reason the throuple didn't work was because rouxls was part of it
Anonymous No.527514208
>>527514049
kek on the nose
Anonymous No.527514219
>>527513426
Toby loves theoryslop which is why he refused to explain a single thing about Undertale or correct anyone
Anonymous No.527514223
>>527514149
And forcing them to kiss their childhood friend.
Anonymous No.527514224
>>527513624
You're forgetting the fact that this is a game, and these are videogame characters who's purpose is to serve the narrative and the story.

So the easy answer is, for the same reason Lancer knows what the "X" button is.
Anonymous No.527514235
>>527514149
Kris definetly inserted himself into Noelle in Chapter 4 huehuehuehuehue
Anonymous No.527514240
>>527514149
Kris is 16, so it's fine
Anonymous No.527514247
>>527513936
As is stands, Toby is creating with his view on Eternity, even though he's only making a "gay lil game about gay animals." I'm not sure I could help you understand.
Anonymous No.527514249 >>527514794
>>527514068
There's a note in Asriel's jacket thanking Catty for going to the dance with him.
Anonymous No.527514251
>>527513609
well, you still know youre being impolite, you just mask it. youre being politically correct rather than genuinely polite
Anonymous No.527514274 >>527514529
>>527514003
>Acting as if every individual in said image all acted as a singular unit
>Everyone who acts against me co-ordinated this!!!
>In reality a bunch of random fucks on the internet who all had the same thought
Meds now.
Anonymous No.527514310 >>527514413 >>527514453
>>527513982
weird way to spell cuck triangle.
Anonymous No.527514324 >>527514494
>>527514091
lanino and elnina liked it, they just found rouxls annoying
Anonymous No.527514372
Anonymous No.527514379
>>527514091
idk man they seem happy with the original starwalker
Anonymous No.527514380
>>527513034
Damn I haven't seen this pic in years.
Anonymous No.527514382 >>527514512
>>527514170
And afterwards both Elnina and Lanino are thinking about how how that lamp is
Anonymous No.527514413 >>527514640
>>527514310
noelle likes being bullied, it'd be easy to get her into denialplay, made to watch her high school crush and her childhood crush fool around in front of her.
Anonymous No.527514436
>>527514170
>Rouxls gives us poly rep
>immediately ruins it by being a toxic partner
>based Starwalker salvages
Anonymous No.527514447
What if Catty isn't fat she's just pregnant with Asriel's child?
Anonymous No.527514453 >>527514640
>>527514310
The truth of every polycule is that someone is bound to get cucked, this time it was Roulxs Kaard
Anonymous No.527514456 >>527514723 >>527515963
>>527513739
Yeah that's about what I said, Kris is definitively a "they", there's just no explicitly stated reason why. If you've read legends of localization, you'd know that Toby has a tendency to leave characters gender unstated, without an explicit reason.

This could easily mean those characters are non-binary (which would be weird for monster kid and napstablook but not impossible). It could easily mean that its supposed to be ambiguous, it could easily mean that its simply not important or unstated. But there is no cannon reason stated. When you act like an annoying cunt about it though, it just makes you look retarded.
Anonymous No.527514478 >>527514873
>>527513709
>>527514053
Ahh, so youre a coward, thats all you had to say.
Anonymous No.527514494
>>527514324
they were literally misled into thinking the other person liked Rouxls so they'd go along with it
they literally go over how uncomfortable the whole situation made them feel, they thought he was attractive but they did NOT like him.
Anonymous No.527514512
>>527514382
That's because that lamp isn't speaking
Anonymous No.527514529 >>527514829
>>527514274
>Meds
>Meds now
>Medicate
You keep parroting the same ad hominen over and over again, ur brains melting from the neuron nukies
Anonymous No.527514537
chapter 5 will have rouxls hitting on clover trying to make a quad polycule
a quadrouple, if you will
Anonymous No.527514551 >>527514710
>>527514026
BITCH I'M ALREADY SCHIZO, THESE FAGGOTS ARE JUST RETARDED! THERE'S A FUCKING DIFFERENCE! THE FORMER IS SAVING IMAGES AND PRAYING TO BE CUDDLED BY FAVE EVERY NIGHT AS YOU CRY INTO YOUR PILLOW HOPING TO SEE THEM IN YOUR MIND'S EYE. HOPING TO GET SOMETHING, ANYTHING FROM THEM EVEN IF ITS PAIN! ITS WASTING HOURS OF THE DAY DAY-DREAMING ABOUT MAKING THEM HAPPY OR BEING BROS WITH THEM WHILE RELAXING TO MUSIC AND HUGGING A PILLOW!

>>527514132
BERGENTRUCKUNG AND MT.EBOTT ARE GERMANIC SOUNDING AND CHARA MEANS JOY IN GREEK, HOW THE FUCK DOES GERMANY AND GREECE = SCOTLAND? IGNORE THE DEMOKNIGHT CHARGING AT YOUR NON-PYRO LOCATION ABOUT TO GET ANOTHER HEAD!
Anonymous No.527514553
>>527514026
>You're a Schizo now.
>That's my attack!
Anonymous No.527514601 >>527514891
>>527514016
youre mistaking nonbinary as being a fluctuating state of male-female identity by default, rather than being constant
Anonymous No.527514603 >>527514643 >>527514801
>>527514149
age of consent is 14 in Hometown
Anonymous No.527514627
>>527506624
The fact that you're getting so many replies from faggots really shows the rot of the general. Perhaps the site as a whole.
Anonymous No.527514634 >>527514716 >>527514757 >>527514862 >>527514875 >>527515320
what the fuck is happening in this thread?
Anonymous No.527514640
>>527514413
>>527514453
>the power of both simulated endings hurting your heart fills you with determination.
Anonymous No.527514643
>>527514603
okay dess whatever you say
Anonymous No.527514710
>>527514551
i just think scottish chara would be funny
Anonymous No.527514716 >>527514848 >>527514968
>>527514634
Anonymous No.527514723 >>527515231
>>527514456
>it could easily mean that its simply not important or unstated
Not stating it is a statement. If Kris's gender was truly unimportant Kris would be a he or a she like 99.9% of fictional characters.
Anonymous No.527514757 >>527514862
>>527514634
/v/ talking about pronouns
Anonymous No.527514794 >>527514887 >>527514913 >>527514990
>>527514249
Yeah going to the ball with a girl to not raise suspicions is a common move. Gays used to even marry women as cover, dude, and Asriel's note was so fucking cheesy and overly polite you can't convince me it's a real straight teenager thanking his girlfriend for a date
Anonymous No.527514801
>>527514603
>deltarune plays in germany (again)
Anonymous No.527514817 >>527514876 >>527514925
At the end of Deltarune Kris will use the 7 Man's Eggs to get a new gender
Anonymous No.527514829 >>527515430 >>527515709
>>527514529
Because every statement you make shows worrying signs of schizophrenia and that you need to be medicated to be a functioning member of society.
Imagining that random people online are "out to get you" and all working as one co-ordinated mass (which is the only possible way you'd come to the conclusion a bunch of individual replies are screaming in unison), isn't healthy behaviour.
Once more for your mental disease addled brain, anon.
MEDS. NOW.
Anonymous No.527514840 >>527514909
Gender is what makes what's in my pants feel funny. End of.
Anonymous No.527514848
>>527514716
This one takes me back to tumblr circa 2016
Anonymous No.527514862 >>527514970 >>527515080
>>527514634
>>527514757
Not to mention on a Gerson theme'd thread
he would 100% bonk you on the head for this shit.
Anonymous No.527514872 >>527515302
SHUT UP
TV WORLD TIME
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DstO9slC_5U
Anonymous No.527514873
>>527514478
what, are you going to get into a fistfight with an actually mentally ill guy because youre red faced yelling that napoleon died exiled on an island? are you stupid?
Anonymous No.527514875 >>527514970
>>527514634
We're having a schism between the pronoun faggots and the biological essentialism chuds who are beginning to realize that they will never be able to convince one another of their arguments.
Anonymous No.527514876
>>527514817
a W D Gender
Anonymous No.527514887
>>527514794
>It's overly polite
That's what glasses will do to you
Anonymous No.527514891 >>527515060 >>527515185
>>527514601
No, I know damn well what it means to be non-binary, I'm saying that the only way to have it be definitively stated in game, without having Toriel turn to the fucking camera and say "Kris, my non-binary child who is non-binary, what would you like for breakfast?" Is by showcasing Kris not adhering to binary gender norms. It's called good writing.
Anonymous No.527514895 >>527515074
>>527503764 (OP)

spitballing a couple of takes, played and replayed chapter 3 and 4 now

(not bothering with spoiler tags)

>Susie getting better at healing by the end of Chapter 4 feels like its not just going to end up being a plot point.... but mechanically, its ominous for Ralsei as having two healers breaks the classic RPG structure of a mage (kris?) fighter (susie?) and white mage (ralsei?) - especially as the Chapter 4 finale about the prophecy glass Susie breaks is worded like "I won't let that happen, Kris wont let that happen and obviously YOU won't let that happen"; so i think Ralsei and/or Castle Town is doomed in the prophecy.
>a loose prediction but - Ralsei to die a Chrono Trigger style "death of a main character who can be brought back later" in Chapter 5?
>there will be a callback to the Lancer/Susie fight, except it will be gutwrenching this time ;_;
>there was a little bit of a weird thing thats either got something innocent ive missed or might actually be important; Tenna with the blacked out Ice-E's coming out of the pipes, and he as a couple of lines/remarks about it - Dess disappeared into the darkness in pipes in the shelter? Tenna throws shade over Kris' family life too, King in C1 knows about the QUIET PEOPLE PISS ME OFF line, so I think thats Tenna referencing Dess' disappearing into pipes.
Anonymous No.527514909
>>527514840
your gender is irrelevant to any discussion then because we assume that the everyday citizen is normal.
Anonymous No.527514913 >>527515020
>>527514794
Asriel lives in a society where even the town bully respects the non-binary's retarded pronouns, I don't think he would hide being gay.
Anonymous No.527514917
Anyone ever see that Denzel cop flick "The Little Things"? Ive always thought that Asgore did something like that to Dess.
Anonymous No.527514925
>>527514817
He will just turn into Super Kris
Anonymous No.527514939 >>527515141 >>527515210
Abolish all gendered language. Embrace gender neutrality.
Anonymous No.527514968
>>527514716
>pic of fictionniger pulling down his pants to reveal nothing
Oohh got em!
Anonymous No.527514970
>>527514862
>>527514875
Gerson would NOT BE PROUD of the state of this general
Anonymous No.527514990 >>527515080 >>527515416
>>527514794
>implying anyone would need a beard
>in UT/DR
... Do you people just not get that this is a setting where gender and orientation are non-issues? If Asriel was gay, he wouldn't be hiding it, cause he wouldn't need to.
Anonymous No.527514991
>>527512568
Based grudge-anon
Anonymous No.527514998
The shadow crystals are fragments of the prophecy, it's why it lets us see things that have not happened yet in the light world
Anonymous No.527515015 >>527515057 >>527515140 >>527515202
>Kris is a he
den i fucka da ass
>Kris is a she
den i fucka da poosi
>Kris is a they/them ken doll
den i fucka da mouth
>Kris is-
dont care den i fucka da hole
Anonymous No.527515020
>>527514913
Being in the closet isn't just about others but also oneself.
Anonymous No.527515057
>>527515015
based
Anonymous No.527515060 >>527515450
>>527514891
everyone in deltarune calls kris a them, and so does toby fox. nothing contradicts kris as nonbinary. other than this i dont know what to tell you; i cant tell you that the cat you see is a cat any harder than this
Anonymous No.527515074 >>527515439
>>527514895
The Tenna thing has a theory to it which seems compelling to me
Anonymous No.527515079
>Thank you Ms.Toriel for treating me nice, Im going to bully your child and threaten to kill them for literally no reason
Why do I hate Susie and Noelle the more Toby reveals about their past
Anonymous No.527515080
>>527514862
>>527514990
this face is so funny
Anonymous No.527515123 >>527515204
Anonymous No.527515136 >>527515387 >>527515582
The solution to this is so easy, /a/ managed it in the Houseki no Kuni threads. Just... don't... fucking.. BRING THE ISSUE UP. No matter what side you are on. REFER TO PIC RELATED FOR REFERENCE, FAGGOTS AND CHUDDIES.
Anonymous No.527515140
>>527515015
sorry you're going back in the gift box
Anonymous No.527515141 >>527515304 >>527515768
>>527514939
>tear down the linguistic norms of most of the world for 1000s of years for the proclivities of <2% of the population who sprung up within the last two decades
i prefer to be polite, and roll my eyes at people who misgender others. but don't push it
Anonymous No.527515147 >>527515182
>The thread is fighting again...
Anonymous No.527515182
>>527515147
Anonymous No.527515185
>>527514891
>Toriel turn to the fucking camera and say "Kris, my non-binary child who is non-binary, what would you like for breakfast?"
To be fair, that would not be out of character.
Anonymous No.527515202
>>527515015
We know, Azzy
Anonymous No.527515204 >>527515315
>>527515123
Everyone at least agrees that femboys and traps are 200% gay right?
Anonymous No.527515209
>>527515172
>>527515172
>>527515172
The subject in the OP was wrong for however many threads and nobody noticed
Anonymous No.527515210 >>527515376 >>527516920
>>527514939
In your post gender world what words would be use to describe biological sex, which is still very much be a real and important thing?
Anonymous No.527515223
If Kris is smooth as a ken doll down there, it just means I can drag my tongue across their body uninterrupted for longer
Anonymous No.527515231 >>527515547
>>527514723
Or maybe Toby Fox is a writer with unique writing quirks. I know, unthinkable.

Again, im not saying Kris isn't non-binary, or couldn't be, im saying that it is not explicitly stated in game, nor has it been stated by Toby Fox, therefore nothing is cannon. It's really that simple, and almost every other fanbase i can think of operates under those rules. But for some reason, not this one.
Anonymous No.527515240
>The only BURNING EYES remixes so far are in the ominous "vocal cover" genre
Where are all the Sweet Tunes for my favorite Thing
Anonymous No.527515302
>>527514872
I was suprised this was the only time we got a musical reference to Mettaton in Chapter 3.
Anonymous No.527515304 >>527515487
>>527515141
evil left handers started springing up in history all of a sudden for no reason and now society has cucked to their insane demands
Anonymous No.527515315
>>527515204
if you care about that you are weak
Anonymous No.527515320
>>527514634
the unwell thinking they're ideology constitutes a healthy identity and lifestyle.
Anonymous No.527515376
>>527515210
Penishaver and vaginaborn obviously. No, but something objective, the kind of thing you would tell your doctor because these things have healthcare implications.
Anonymous No.527515387 >>527515456
>>527515136
thanks anon, you're a smart girl
Anonymous No.527515416
>>527514990
Anon hiding your sexuality doesn't mean you think people around will attack you, Asriel could legit believe he's straight but he's clearly not built for this, he doesn't know how off and unrealistic his note would be for an actual straight teen boy and thinks he's "normal".
Anonymous No.527515430 >>527515643
>>527514829
Funny, you’re the relentless retard who cannot shut the fuck up about Gender dysmphoria (Same spectrum as schizophrenia)
>out to get you
self-projection, i dont care hardly as much as you do. You’ll keep echoing your delusional fever dreams as like a sacred mantra chant to repell the CIS-CIA agents desperately trying to convert you back into the fat brown she/her you realy are
Anonymous No.527515439
>>527515074
Wait, WHERE do the pipes go? Id guess there is a municipal water system thats connected to the shelter that Kris fucked up
Anonymous No.527515450
>>527515060
When have I said that they aren't? Im simply saying there is no definitive cannon answer, because there isn't.
Anonymous No.527515456
>>527515387
you're welcome
Anonymous No.527515471
>>527512336
You're right btw.
Anonymous No.527515487 >>527515572
>>527515304
left handers being perceived as evil was a superstition that existed in a relatively small crop of cultures (europe) in a relatively small timeframe (early medieval ages). while it was seen as unsanitary in other, older cultures, it was also seen as wise in other cultures.

but humans have been using gendered language in all of the western world since before rome, and most of the east that isn't east asia does it too.
Anonymous No.527515547 >>527515846 >>527517168
>>527515231
Unless he lives in a cave Toby knows that it won't be perceived as a writing quirk, and he knows that this is a contentious subject, but does it anyway. It's either deliberate shit stirring for the sake of shit stirring or Kris actually is non-binary.
Anonymous No.527515572 >>527515708
>>527515487
and they still do anon. there is no conspiracy against you.
Anonymous No.527515582
>>527515136
Toby annoyingly corrects Kris pronouns on the fangamer stream. Probably the only time he's ever corrected people publicly.
Anonymous No.527515643 >>527515880 >>527515964 >>527516175
>>527515430
>Calling me a tranny OUT OF NOWHERE
>Saying I said shit I DIDN'T SAY OUT OF NOWHERE
>Schizo theories OUT OF NOWHERE
This is what I'm talking about.
Go see a therapist or some professional.
Anonymous No.527515708 >>527515831
>>527515572
i am replying to someone who said to tear down gendered language. i'm not saying there is a conspiracy, i am saying that to want such a thing as to tear down gendered language is ridiculous, self-centered, and historically and culturally ignorant.

i will refer to people by their preferred pronouns, but saying that kind of shit is stupid.
Anonymous No.527515709
>>527514829
>y-you’re schizophrenic
My 12 year old power fantasies have been affirmed guise!
Th-Thank you! i’ve been trying to coax twitter into beliving im truly aSCHIZOPHRENIC/BPD/NEURODIVERGENT/DID specimen for yaers now.
Anonymous No.527515713 >>527515861 >>527515862 >>527515941 >>527516048
It's fathers day. I should be out spending time with family. But instead I'm procrastinating by spending time arguing about gender in a 4chan thread. Depressing isn't it.
Anonymous No.527515768 >>527516057 >>527516350
>>527515141
And? I want to destroy the old order, teardown the modern world and remake it. This is an easy pressure point and the first of many necessary dominos to push over.
Anonymous No.527515823
il leave for ONE SECOND and the general is filled with 12 year old homosexual fantasie erp?
Anonymous No.527515831
>>527515708
ah right. i agree with you
Anonymous No.527515846 >>527516459
>>527515547
That's been a semi-consistent part of his writing since pre-Undertale. Don't know why you can't accept that the use of they/them pronouns in writing does not equal a definitive statement of gender identity.
Anonymous No.527515861
>>527515713
Livin the dream
Anonymous No.527515862 >>527515969
>>527515713
undertale / deltarune is an extremely fatherless series so it tracks
>asgore the most divorced man in fiction
>the king is evil
>rudy is the only other dad and he has a terminal disease
Anonymous No.527515880
>>527515643
>You’re mentally ill
>That’s my rebuttal
If i was a Tiktok psychward escapee roleplayer id be over the moon.
Anonymous No.527515929 >>527516135
I wish you "allies" were against racism of the non white majority of the world as much as you were against the misgendering of 1% of white queers.
Anonymous No.527515941 >>527515997 >>527516016
>>527515713
Go spend time with them. While you still can. The only reason I haven't talked to my dad today is that he died last year...
Anonymous No.527515963 >>527516223
>>527514456
Mettaton and Mad Dummy were they before unghosting, Napstablook is almost certainly nonbinary
I think MK might be ambiguous/unstated though since we don't even get their name
Anonymous No.527515964 >>527516042
>>527515643
Im actualy a Woman so this is very validating!! Fix me DADY . im Mentaly inept
Anonymous No.527515969 >>527516008 >>527516170
>>527515862
What about Gerson? He's also a paternal figure
Anonymous No.527515997
>>527515941
shit. sorry for your loss. hope youre holding up
Anonymous No.527516008
>>527515969
>nta but
>dead
Anonymous No.527516016
>>527515941
thank you anon, I'm sorry for your loss
Anonymous No.527516042
>>527515964
please be in london
Anonymous No.527516048
>>527515713
I hate spending time with my dad. Not because he's done anything wrong he's just autistic and every interaction with him is awkward.
Anonymous No.527516057 >>527516174
>>527515768
cringe edgelord nonsense.
and also ignorant. class or racial divide actually affects everyone unlike gendered language which affects a small portion of people in developed countries where they have enough food and water to care about using they/them.
Anonymous No.527516084
when will noelle be added to mario kart world character selection?
Anonymous No.527516135
>>527515929
Anonymous No.527516170 >>527516428
>>527515969
he is dust in a bowl man. which rudy will be soon.
Anonymous No.527516174
>>527516057
>this kills the dnc staffer
Anonymous No.527516175
>>527515643
This is like gender affirmation for underage white girls. You’re realy balls deep into this Virtue for faggots thing
Anonymous No.527516223 >>527516743
>>527515963
I can see Napstablook, I struggle to see monsterkid, (monsterkid is most likely just a universal narrative stand-in for the innocence of monster children as a whole) but the only definitive statement of non-traditional gender identity in Undertale and Deltarune is Mad Mew Mew, who is explicitly a trans allegory.
Anonymous No.527516267
Why isn't Chara real
I need her so bad
Anonymous No.527516350
>>527515768
You probably shouldn't be on the internet under the age of 16 anon
Anonymous No.527516362
KRIS HAS A CLOACA
Anonymous No.527516428
>>527516170
>Which Rudy will be soon
Kek
Anonymous No.527516459 >>527517015
>>527515846
When did he do it before Undertale? Gimme the ancient Toby lore
Anonymous No.527516743 >>527517242
>>527516223
I wouldn't say Mad Mew Mew's allegory is explicit or even stronger than Mettaton's
Dress lion OTOH is explicit and not even allegorical
>monsterkid is most likely just a universal narrative stand-in for the innocence of monster children as a whole
Kind of but then they have a definite unique personality and show up again in Deltarune as just some guy
Anonymous No.527516920
>>527515210
XY chromosomal.
Anonymous No.527517015
>>527516459
I should clarify that im pretty sure its been a consistent thing since pre-Undertale, and has been a consistent thing within Undertale and after Undertale. I remember it being in the Halloween Hack, but i only played that once years ago, so someone who's played it more recently would have to verify that. I mean one of the people working on Deltarune's game (don't think it was Temmie's, I remember it being that one concept artist's) just straight up had gender identities listed on the steam page. If Toby intended for it to be definitive, he or someone on his team would just say so on twitter.
Anonymous No.527517168
>>527515547
Toby lives in a weeb bubble. He was groomed in Hussies basement since he was 16 and then suddenly became rich and is just living out his childhood fantasies now. Toby has been seperated from the real world for a long time.
Anonymous No.527517242 >>527517601
>>527516743
I remember there being a bunch of dialogue about fusing with her new body because it really feels like her or something like that. I'd say it's about as explicit as it can get without straight up saying it. Forgot Dress lion existed lol.
Anonymous No.527517250
hometown in deltarune is quite small;

surprising how small it is;

would be interesting to see a "single A" 3d or 2d version of delta-rune where there's monsters in cars and
Anonymous No.527517253
>>527506343
>Sexualization of minors is-

Brother you are on 4chan. Go to /co/ see if people care. Go back to bluesky, retard, nobody here cares about what rights you think drawings should have.
Anonymous No.527517601 >>527518168
>>527517242
Mad Dummy already talked about it in the base game as general ghost behavior, as foreshadowing for Mettaton
Mettaton arguably fits the allegory better since he co-designed his body with Alphys based on his wildest dreams
Anonymous No.527517785 >>527517963
>toby is a cis male who had a normal family
>stories have queer allegories, fagbait galore, and broken homes all over the place
what did Hussie do to this man
Anonymous No.527517963 >>527518202
>>527517785
I think he just likes yuri and wanted to put it in his games
Anonymous No.527518163 >>527518559 >>527519067
>>527506624
>>527507573
I too will chime in on this one. I always interpreted this just as "monsters don't know how human s work" since what are the chances that all 3 human (the only humans, mind you) prefer "they"? And we KNOW that Toriel had to RENT a book on "how to raise human children".


My schizo theory, that is no more valid than any of (You)r ideas- is that the book just referred to humans in plural (since grammatically speaking that is the correct way in English to refer to someone whose identity you don't know, (example; "The serial killer is still on the loose. They could be anyone!") and Toriel thought that's how you refer to human kids. Knowing Toriel and how protective she is, she probably corrected everyone in town who refered to her kid as a boy or a girl.

But that's just a theory. A game theory...
Anonymous No.527518168 >>527519067
>>527517601
Yeah but mettaton's pronouns don't change. Mettaton's ghost is certainly feminine, and it could easily read as ftm, but for me when it comes to ghosts who aren't paranormal, but just popped up as ghosts somehow because they're monsters, when they are ghosts gender is just not applicable, and then when they fuse with an object they become the express gender of that object if it has one.

Basically I don't see Mettaton as a trans allegory because it goes ghost (N/A) > robot (N/A) > Mettaton (he/him) while i see Mad Mew Mew as one because it goes ghost (N/A) > Mad Dummy (don't think pronouns are used but its very masculine) > Mad Mew Mew (she/her).
Anonymous No.527518202 >>527518329
>>527517963
sure but the queer stuff and the broken homes perplexes me.
Anonymous No.527518329
>>527518202
The gay stuff is because Tumblr, The broken homes are because its interesting to write about, pretty simple. I doubt Toby got Doe'd.
Anonymous No.527518559 >>527518896
>>527518163
but matpat, even darkners inherently use they them on kris, she her on susie, and so on
Anonymous No.527518572
>>527508350
>*Kris choughs
>*The enemy tilts it's head.

Idk. I, personally am having fun.
Anonymous No.527518675
What if every time spam tone said something in bracket whatever ehe was trying to say was replaced by [[embed fail]]
Anonymous No.527518772
>>527513304
*Shurakins
Anonymous No.527518865
first time playing normal route ch4
holy shit why do the voiced of the damned follow carol around. the king got a less ominous background music to his intro.
Anonymous No.527518896 >>527518973
>>527518559
Darkness are objects who are apparently aware of their surroundings. They probably heard their owners refer to Kris as "they".
Anonymous No.527518973 >>527519182 >>527519383
>>527518896
none of the ch1 or 2 darkners know who kris is i'm pretty sure.
Anonymous No.527519067 >>527519423 >>527519605
>>527518163
Chara was surely old enough to be capable of saying "I'm a boy/girl btw". And I don't know why monsters would assume this when they themselves have gender.
>the book just referred to humans in plural
Which book?

>>527518168
>mettaton's pronouns don't change
There's an optional phone call where Undyne they/thems Napstablook's cousin who left and whom she can't remember the name of (and who is clearly Mettaton).
All the ghosts are consistently they/themmed in Undertale even when it makes the sentence awkward.
>Mad Dummy (don't think pronouns are used but its very masculine)
IIRC they/them plus occasional it/its in battle (which is normal even for gendered enemies).
Mad Dummy reads masculine but I think Mettaton's old house would read feminine without the context of robot Mettaton.
Anonymous No.527519168
>looks up fat tenna art on twitter
>see a post complaining about the fat tenna posting in utg
ok
Anonymous No.527519182
>>527518973
That is a good argument.

My other schizo theory is that they are aware of the Kris and SOUL thing, and that is why THEY do so, but that argument also opens up another whole new can of worms, I am aware of that.
Anonymous No.527519383 >>527519586
>>527518973
>* Time flies... Seems like just yesterday you and that girl had everyone here lined up.
>* Queen on her side, King on your side, Tenna in back... Oh, it was chaos, CHAOS!
>* Heh, only kids like you two would take a laptop home just to play make believe.
Anonymous No.527519423 >>527519791
>>527519067
Chara and Kris both want to fit in with monsters and we know that Chara hates humans so there is that... Not sure if that Is the reason of the lack of correction or not tho...

The book in the town library, (top floor) let me boot up the game, sec.
Anonymous No.527519586
>>527519383
Crazy how little that gets talked about
Anonymous No.527519605 >>527520116
>>527519067
I mean i can definitely see them both as allegories, but when it comes to literal ghosts, it wouldn't make sense for them to have genders, because y'know, no corporeal form, therefore identity is completely fluid and sex doesn't exist. Throughout history they/them has been used for entities like that long before they/them implied non-binary. As for that being the case for ghosts in Undertale, picrel.
Anonymous No.527519791
>>527519423
>Chara and Kris both want to fit in with monsters and we know that Chara hates humans so there is that... Not sure if that Is the reason of the lack of correction or not tho...
I mean, at that point you're saying that they do prefer they and probably identify as nonbinary
>The book in the town library, (top floor) let me boot up the game, sec.
We don't read any of that book's text so it doesn't they/them anyone
You can look at pictures or see that Toriel checked it out and that's it
Anonymous No.527519798 >>527520071 >>527535265
I think pronouns are retarded, but are you guys REALLY choosing deltarune as your hill to die on? This is a gay furry game about gay furries, what exactly are.you expecting?
Anonymous No.527520071
>>527519798
People spend as much time arguing about everything else in this game. Including the gay part and the furry part, so it's to be expected.
Anonymous No.527520116 >>527520606
>>527519605
>Throughout history they/them has been used for entities like that long before they/them implied non-binary
No, AFAIK that's something from exclusively the last 20 years. Before then you get he/him or it/its or (particularly in science fiction) neopronouns.
I do think ghosts are biologically ungendered yeah.
Anonymous No.527520606 >>527521374
>>527520116
Have you read a lot of fiction from before the last 20 years anon? Or was Shakespeare writing about enby identity in Hamlet. It's been used that way since the 1300s, and was common enough that it become controversial because some thought it was grammatically incorrect to refer to a singular person with a "plural" pronoun.
Anonymous No.527521374
>>527520606
That's for indefinite people (even of known binary gender), not for definite individuals. The latter originated as an extension of the former but it's not the same.
>Though "singular they" has long been used with antecedents such as everybody or generic persons of unknown gender, this use, which may be chosen by an individual, is recent.[103] The earliest recorded usage of this sense documented by the Oxford English Dictionary is in a tweet from 2009;[104][105] the journal American Speech documents an example from 2008 in an article in the journal Women's Studies Quarterly.[106]
Anonymous No.527522541 >>527522967 >>527523834
Anonymous No.527522967
>>527522541
Kris holding on to the boob like that is pretty funny.
Samps !!vxppCLTKeup No.527523834
>>527522541
>Ifunny
Anonymous No.527526532
>>527509707
It was made from love of femboys
And it evokes love of femboys
Anonymous No.527535265 >>527535541
>>527519798
if they threw it on literally any other character i'd buy it but Kris is very obviously just supposed to be Ambiguous. Even with it being clear that Kris isn't us in this game it still causes people to relate and associate with them much more strongly as they see their own lives echoed in his and it also keeps people from feeling uncomforatble about being a soul controling the wrong gender while at the same time allowing porn artists to feel aroused about being a soul controlling the wrong gender. In Kris case its clearly the power move to keep it in the mystery box.
Anonymous No.527535541 >>527536730
>>527535265
>it also keeps people from feeling uncomforatble about being a soul controling the wrong gender
Is this a problem for gendered player characters? I don't see it
I've got bigger reasons to be uncomfortable about controlling Kris
Anonymous No.527536730 >>527537301
>>527535541
it depends on how much the player is self inserting. note that kris is not a self insert in the story but as little as we know about him people still self insert really hard. People will just naturally relate less for every degree of seperation and by leaving some things undefined it makes it easier for more people to just copy paste their own feelings. sure some people can roleplay as or self insert as anything and everything but youll find for instance the vast majority of table top players will never actually play a character of a different gender from them even if there are people that have no problem with it.
Anonymous No.527537023
>>527503904
I feed tv!
https://youtube.com/watch?v=JLMcefiSZuM&t=44
Anonymous No.527537301
>>527536730
Do people have this problem with, say, Earthbound?
And Toby does quite a lot to make self-inserting into Kris feel inappropriate so if anything I'd see that as an argument for Kris truly being nonbinary and merely looking ambiguous on the surface
Anonymous No.527537313
howd you guys post so fast