Ol' Blue Eyes Edition

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>>527441718
https://arch.b4k.dev/vg/thread/527441718

>Scott's Twitter
https://x.com/FNAF_ScottGames
>Official Site:
http://scottgames.com/
>Youtube Channel
https://www.youtube.com/@animdude

>Steam
https://store.steampowered.com/search/?publisher=ScottGames
>Gamejolt
https://gamejolt.com/@realscawthon/games
>Movie
https://www.amazon.com/Five-Nights-Freddys-Blu-ray-Digital/dp/B0CLQRXQNF
>Five Laps at Freddy's
https://store.steampowered.com/app/3078140/Five_Laps_at_Freddys/
>Five Nights at Freddy's: Into the Pit
https://store.steampowered.com/app/2638370/Five_Nights_at_Freddys_Into_the_Pit
>Books:
https://www.amazon.com/Scott-Cawthon/e/B019N2PDJ8

>Booru:
http://5naf.booru.org/
>Writing Archive:
https://justpaste/ dot it/5NAF_Writefag_Archive
>Backup:
https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1yPi-19kl2eJgPYRCMKai0ZjoYZaQvqPK
>Voice Archive:
https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1sZv_a-GEYALjmO3Rbf7rF1fIh92nYYxi?usp=sharing

Henry is Edwin's brother inlaw

Whats Scotts best design in your opinion? I'd say Mangle or Springtrap

Glamrock Chica rocks so hard that she's rattled all her circuits besides pizza

>>527638719
Freddy Fazbear himself. That or Springtrap.

>Be SWS an irrelevant small vidya studio
>Left leaning due to being housed in SF Bay of all places
>Get a deal with Scott Cawthon, to bring your studios out of irrelevancy.
>Make a VR game
>Make money like never before
>Then just as you are making a big budget game (for you) Scott gets outed as a right wing bigot.
>You aren't surprised as Scott evangelized as much as he could whenever he got the chance in your conversation
>Get know as a Studio associated with a trumper but you are still making dough

Behold, the rare Funtime Chica art

>>527639584
Chill. Maybe have a pizza.

Just got the normal ending yesterday and am starting the parachute one. So no spring Bonnie at all? Just the ugly prototype?

>>527639584
Silence, troon.

>>527638719
The original 4 are pretty much perfect designs, especially with how effective they were in that game.

>>527638719
Objectively speaking probably the classic four or Springtrap.
Of course, I'm heavily biased.

If i get run over by a forklift will my remenant haunt the forklift?

>>527643114
Remnant doesn’t exist.

>>527643114
did you have strong feelings for the forklift

>>527642761
Fuck off back to twitter Pearse

>>527643114
Not necessarily, but your Agony might.

>>527643114
Your soul doesn't linger it dies with your body

I need cowgirl Roxy wife.

Since the first game is retro now, what was it about really?

is this the place where you guys have discussions of fnaf?

>>527638719
Freddy Fazbear
Springtrap
Mangle
Foxy
Ballora
Lefty
Old Bonnie
Toy Chica
Shadow Toy Bonnie
Marionette
Balloon Boy
FNaF 2 Golden Freddy

>>527645898
No this is Patrick's general

Is Glamrock Freddy some kind of variation on a springlock suit? They all open the same way, at it would explain why he's an orangey-brown closer to Fredbear than the traditional Fazbear dark brown.

>>527645961
lol... I've been a lurker here for some time now. nice to be part of the conversation now. what is/Fnaf/ general consensus of the game?

>>527645961
I mean the new game...

Fiona is literally just a rehash of Charlie wtf
>Starts off as a dear loved one of a genius inventor who tragically dies
>Then becomes a robot made to mimic themselves when they were alive that may or may not have their soul in it, later "outliving" the person who made them and have a second version that is "evil" (Novel Charlie)
>And finally become something that lives inside a box that is associated with security, with the purpose of trying to help a child/children, even if the methods aren't the cleanest (Game Charlie)
Is there any part of this game's story that is 100% original?

>>527646312
There is no consensus as always on the chans.
So far it's been
>Jackie/Dolly is hot
>Roxy is back
>Foxy's Puppet show had no complaints an achievement for this place
>My Name is Edwin, It was rather easy to fuck the lore altogether
>Arguments about the identity of Moon being a ghost rather than the Mimic
>The game was ruined by Outlast/Amensia Style Gameplay
>Others said the gameplay was fun, but the story single handled fucked over bookfags like Fuhnaff
>Some liked the more direct and less cryptic story telling. (At least we know the date the game takes place, back in the day just figuring out the date the games took place in was one big ARG)
>How the fuck did the Mimic go from it's SotM appearance to look like the one from Ruin
>The Mimic is immortal

>>527646196
No. Glamrock Freddy just has a stomach hatch for birthday cakes and pinatas. Gregory is just small enough to fit inside his chest cavity by presumably hunching down inside.

>>527643114
So there are two big supernatural concepts at play here: Remnant and Agony. Remnant is basically basically Soul Juice, and injecting it into things makes it possible for them to be possessed by spirits. Agony is just distilled suffering and bad memories, and it can manifest in different ways that make it look like there’s a ghost possessing something or haunting a location, when there really isn’t.

>>527646312
>lurker
>doesn't read
So you're full of shit and looking for attention to force discussion

What if he just wants to be a little princess?

>>527647331
That begs the question, if Gregory is supposed to be a teenager even the torso and head is a big ask to fit in even if he crunched up.
This Mf Glamrock Freddy has to at least by 7 ft tall for that to work out.
>>527647236
The musicals and puppet shows

>>527647714
Greg’s like 10 or 11

>>527647714
I refuse to believe Gregory is a fucking teenager, he has to be 11-12 at best.

>>527646196
I'm starting to think F10-N4 was the one who revived Fazbear LLC. She's bringing back her "old" patents such as Monty, Roxy, STAFFBOT, Sun/Moon, Fazerblast etc to the new establishment.

>>527648150
>>527648207
"GGY", which takes place a few years before SB, confirmed that he is like, 15 during SB
Although now that the books have been deboonked, who knows?

>>527648317

Do any of you people genuinely think he's scary?

>>527648396
If he’s 15, then he’s a fucking midget.

>>527648396
>he is like, 15 during SB
He still looks 10. Granted that modern boys look more like they're 30 when still in their mid-teens.

>>527648657
In GGY, even when he was younger than he was in SB, also said that he looked younger than his age
No wonder Gregbot was a thing

I disagree with the current direction of Five Nights games. I believe they should take on a different kind of tone and visual presentation.

>Isn't a bomb thief
>Doesn't dispense grief
>Doesn't hide bombs in your belongings
>Doesn't have a secret canon
>Doesn't have clown powers to make you scream louder
>Oh yeah, and she doesn't fucking come backie
What was the point of this character? She was all over SOTM's marketing, but in the game for 5 minutes tops.

>>527648838
He stole the secret cannon, prease undershtandu.

>>527648838
I think a better "mascot" for the game would be a mishmash of a bunch of different costumes the Mimic wears with only his eyes in the middle,

>>527648838
it's the Vanny situation all over again.

>>527648980
I can't quite tell whether he's supposed to be a lion or some kind of dog? Also I like how this kind of springlock suits is basically a battle mech.

>>527648992
Already had that in Ruin, didn't quite land imo.

>>527649140
On one hand, the mane makes me think lion. But then all of Foxy's crew are canines so it'd make more sense for him to be a dog. Hmmm.

>>527639584
Their liberalness cancels out Scott's conservativeness and vice versa. It's genius really.

>>527649386
I am pretty sure it's a freddy.
>Bears are members of the Canidae family

>>527649001
Anybody can tell from the SOTM initial trailer is Jackie was another monster of the week, Vanny was hyped up to be FNAF's next main villain.
I'm more bemused if anything, I just expected her to appear more in the game.

>>527649931
*Caniforms

>>527648838
>has Puppet's music box motif
>came out from a BOX
>her box located near birthday cake
>pic related
Nice inventor you have there, Fazbear Entertainment!

>SOTM takes place in the 70s
>Disney's Robin Hood had been out a few years at that point
>Robin Hood could have been David's favorite film at that point
>Inspired by the film, Fiona made Foxy and his crew of foxes, basing Roxy of Maid Marian
>Tfw if David was still alive, he'd be one of those freaks still attracted to Maid Marian
Well, that's my headcanon at least.

>>527650598
Foxy and Roxy are basically inverse Wolf and Diane

>>527649386
he's just a hairy dog

>the content of the fnaf 4 box was the friends we made along the way
B R A V O
S
C
O
T
T

>>527650953
look they even come in brown

I like how even now that there's an entire game dedicated solely to it, nobody still thinks that mimic was a good idea for a character.

>>527651234
The people who thought that were Afton fans who would never have liked any villain other than him anyway. I've seen positivity for his design, his music, him doing crazy shit like coming in the car and killing Arnold, the cute baby endo, crawling out of lava, etc.

This game generally filters the people who like good games and general storytelling from the continuity spergs who can't handle the books not being canon and the other kind of sperg who can't handle a game not being Afton worship.

>>527649386
He’s a Sea Dog.

>>527651573
>Wow a good FNAF story?
>Look inside
>It's just The Fourth Closet but with different names

So what ever happened with this?

>>527651848
>t. guy who almost certainly thinks the best ending is one where a guy from the books is shoehorned in to make the tfc ending happen in the games
I don't really know how you can take "Henry makes a bunch of failed clones of his daughter and kills himself" as the same thing as "Guy loses his wife and kid after being tormented by a company and then that family goes on to haunt his creations"

>>527651848
Nigger you've been saying this since the last thread. Who is the 4th closet tigerrock stand-in?

>look inside the "secret of the mimic"
>it's literally just a retelling of the same story of the novel trilogy
>but with the same cartoon style as the shitty graphic novels in game format

>>527651910
Roxy's fat cheeks single handedly turning the game from single A to double A

>>527651986
>distinction without a difference

>>527652212
>>527652353
Extremely suspicious posting times

>>527652212
this is belligerent

>>527651910
Delayed to 2026

>>527652428
>>527652479
the closest movement opportunity is guaranteed to succeed at my current ai level

>>527647630
Why do you think that Edwin came at him with the pipe?

>>527652737
He was enraged by him copying David

>>527645628
Quirky alegory for depression inspired by Earthbound

>>527647630
I'd be his friend, we could play dress up and have tea parties whenever he likes.

>>527652803
>create a robot to copy your dead son
>get mad at him copying your dead son
how is this specific kind of disorder called exactly?

>>527652180
Ella doll
MimiFiona as well

>>527653254
It's funny how the books made this part make way more sense but then when turning it into a game they just made it nonsensical for no reason

>>527653254
He didn’t make M2 to copy David. M2 started trying to copy David of its own volition, which drove Ed into a rage.

>>527653318
???
Elladoll is not even sentient when teen!Charlie alive

>>527653952
this reads like all those complaints about the androids in alien isolation

>>527653558
It serves the same narrative purpose

hey remember that dbd crossover chapter that's due to come out tomorrow?
some streamers are getting previews of how his other cosmetics look, here's how glitchtrap looks during his mori https://files.catbox.moe/5ld3yn.mp4

>>527654260
????
game!David wasnt the one who died first and tigerrock is a paranormal apparition. you're reaching at this point

>>527653952
So the M1 is F10-N4/MXES, and M2 is the Endoskeleton. Ed made the M2 as a way to put the M1 AI into a more physical body, and look after David. When David died, and Ed realized he had completely lost his entire family, it sent him into a grief spiral, and he started hating M1 and M2 because he let a machine raise his own child while he continued to neglect him.

>>527655285
M1 is implied to literally be Fiona's spirit but yes.

>>527655285
>>527655639
Isn't there an audio log in the game where Edwin introduces M1 to David and David calls It scary because it's an endoskeleton?

>>527656248
Yes because he's a pussy

>>527654535
This is....hmm.
>>527656304
Not the point. If M1 is explicitly stated to be an endoskeleton in that audio log than that means there was always two Mimic Endos unless M1 and M2 was code and not physical endoskeletons. This game confuses me.

>>527656248
>>527656501
I’m pretty sure the M2 IS the Endo.

>>527648232
I doubt she exists anymore, unless she got downloaded elsewhere. I don't think she is in the mxes machine.

>>527656501
M1 was removed from the endo and uploaded while M2 was a new program.

>>527654535
Oh yeah, I just saw that they finally put up the real, actual trailer for the content as well: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_lsEERSC0Go
I'm still not sure why they don't lead with stuff like this.

>>527657371
>>527657236
That makes more sense.

>>527655285
M(x) meant to be a software, probably a chip. M1 already had its own body by the time David growing up. David died by the time that recording took place, on his own birthday. This is why he got mad at M1 and start beating it. The audiolog after you met F10-N4 it convinced Edwin to make another Mimic program. After realising everything falling apart, he shut down himself inside his room alone.
>>527656501
Edwin probably put M1 consciousness into MXES and used previous endo to train M2. Then again true ending suggests that the endo who crashed our car was M1 because M2 doesnt even care about data driver whatsoever

henry status?

>>527657885
He's the same. People say he's evil but not really, all he does is reject Edwin's designs once

>>527657371
According to F10-N4, the M2 started out as a copy of her.
>>527653952
>While the M2 began as a copy of my program

>day 2 and still no Jackie's porn
I NEED TO JACKIE MY PEEPEE RIGHT NOWWW

>>527657993
I’d say deliberately running your friend into bankruptcy and stealing everything from him is pretty fucking evil.

>>527658213
>MY NAME IS JACKIE
>WITH THESE ARMS I CAN GIVE YOU A WHACKIE

>>527658313
That was Willy

>>527658313
there's nothing really suggesting henry was directly involved.
all the poaching/stealing/getting edwins land mails came from william

None of this even matters until they make another game that shows which ending is canon and even then every ending can just be made non canon with how indecisive scott is.

I still dislike that Fazbear Entertainment turned from incompetent and negligent company, to straight up malicious like they're fucking Umbrella or some shit

>>527657885
>henry status?
Whonry?

>>527658678
you mean the company led by a serial killer is heckin immoral?

>>527658678
>In the case that the springlocks come loose while you are wearing the suit, please try to maneuver away from populated areas before bleeding out, as not to ruin the customer experience.
>Welcome back to another pivotal night of your thriving new career, where you get to really ask yourself, what am I doing with my life? What would my friends say? And most importantly, will I ever see my family again?
>Upon discovering that damage or death has occurred, a missing person report will be filed within 90 days, or as soon as property and premises have been thoroughly cleaned and bleached, and the carpets have been replaced.

>>527657684
>M2 doesnt care about the data diver
It could be possible that M1 can temporarily gain access over the endo as seen with the Glamrocks and the mimic virus.
Which would explain why endo takes data diver in escape ending.
As for the easy ending M2 would simply want to kill us just for the sake of it,
Either way whether Arnie consented with it or not his best chance of survivial was cooperating with M1 completely.
Also in the elevator M2 can be seen mimicing F10NAs voice

>>527647328
So I've found it interesting that we have finally made it to the point in the series that we have terminator bots, a setting that takes place at a carnival/factory location, all the old theories and ideas that people thought and made back in 2016-2022 are now real, and the concepts in the books are now repurposed for whatever new storyline this franchise is going to get.

I don't know how Scott did it. But he took all the ideas of the fandom and smelted them into this new thing with this game storyline.

>>527647613
No... I was saying hello, and I've decided to come here to this place now.

>>527638719
Withered Golden Freddy.

>>527658678
The "transition" from point and click to Steel Wool era for the company is fucking wacky and honestly nonsensical, what the fuck do you mean that zombie of a company in 6 were only revived to burn everything down, to suddenly phoenix'd out of nowhere and have the budget to create in-universe VR games and a fucking mega mall

>>527659469
I (Fazbear) always come back

>>527658678
This, Sister Location was a fucking mistake.

>>527659469
M1 Started cryptomining, perfect since in a way she is already a powerful processing unit

>>527658483
>>527658501
They were working together to sabotage him.

>>527659754
cool, you can post the logs or voice clip where it says conclusively that henry was knowingly doing that, right?

Does anyone recognize the exact model of landline telephone that you hear in FNaF 3 and FNaF 1 or what this model from HW is based off?

Can someone explain to me why this new game is a big deal? who's Edwin? why did he make the mimic? Is this just a book-only lore thing or what?

>>527660329
Here's tldr
https://youtu.be/Yp8o35zahgo

>>527659072
>>In the case that the springlocks come loose while you are wearing the suit, please try to maneuver away from populated areas before bleeding out, as not to ruin the customer experience.
>>Upon discovering that damage or death has occurred, a missing person report will be filed within 90 days, or as soon as property and premises have been thoroughly cleaned and bleached, and the carpets have been replaced.
That's negligence, because even with the suicidally retarded idea of iron maiden mascot suit and death cover up, they're not actively trying to fuck everything up for shit and giggle
>>Welcome back to another pivotal night of your thriving new career, where you get to really ask yourself, what am I doing with my life? What would my friends say? And most importantly, will I ever see my family again?
That's Baby's shit and Afton's pet project, not the bear itself. Even then, I still dislike that Handunit's tongue-in-cheek humor on how dangerous these jobs are slowly snowballing into an actual lore acknowledgment that the company is aware and fucking revel on how awful and deadly they are

>>527660329
The game actively decanonizes the books, but pull a few ideas from them.

>"Due to budget restrictions, the previously mentioned safe rooms are being sealed at most locations, including this one."
Budget restrictions? What a bunch of baloney nonsense crap sacks. How does that statement make any sense, assuming that is a cover story they want people to believe? One extra empty room in every location (anyone wonder how many locations Freddy's had now that you think about it) costs how much to keep simply locked behind a closed door?

Just one of those things that comes to mind again as the years pass and you revisit them.

>>527660706
So which one is it then? And which ones?

So... how does anyone feel about the Goddavid theory? The one where David is the origin of the crying child and Gregory. I know that people here are upset about Edwin taking over Henry's role and Fazbear Entertainment becoming the mainstay antagonist of the franchise. But I don't see people talking about the implications of what David did to fnaf4 and fnafsb retrospectively.

Now we have the implications that the mimic brainwashing the crying child and Gregory into behaving like David. That happened to have similar incidents throughout the timeline.

In modern lore, there's no way Fazbear would give the Toys a facial scanner that were linked to a criminal database btw

>>527660821
Simple. Keep your head down and don’t ask questions, or you’ll get your pay docked or fired.

>>527660995
If it’s true the lore is permanently fucked and barring a reboot there’s nothing they can do to fix it.

>>527660995
Edwin made David as well since you he's his son? Fucking Edwin.

>>527661127
That's precisely they would do in the surveillance nightmare world we live in as of 2025.

>>527660964
Like I said, it pulls some ideas and characters from the the books where the Mimic was introduced, but ultimately executes them differently so that it works as a game.

>>527660964
The books aren’t canon full stop.

>>527661383
>>527661496

This is what I am referring to...
https://youtu.be/99PwDPMBEL0?t=4655

How does /Fnaf/ feel about it?

>>527661731
Ermm twb

>>527661847
I already know the theory.
If it’s correct FNAF just seppuku’d.

>>527661847
I feel like you should buy an ad :)

>Edwin made the Puppet too
I guess that explains all the Nightmarionne stuff in the modern FNAF stuff

>>527661863
>twb
isn't that mostly wishful thinking tho?
until anything that is specifically in twb is referenced in a mainline game there will always be some doubt that it's canon

With Baby's own AI seemingly corrupted to almost overwrites all Elizabeth's personality and made her bloodthirsty, does that means Charlie's act of "saving" and generally being protective of the MCI spirit is actually the Security Puppet AI's doing?
So much of "not my daughter" nonsense from that practically-retconned Henry's speech

FNAF died the moment the animatronics started talking.

>Edwin literally replaced his own wife with SHODAN

>>527662743
Ralph's name is in one of the mail logs you find in SotM.

>>527661847
And I think it is more important than Edwin making the Freddy franchise for now. All I could say is if this is scots explanation of fnaf4 and security breach then we know the truth now.

At least we have an explanation for the sister location bunker, Fredbears diner, fnaf 6 location, and the Gregory bot theory. Man... Mattpat was right. But Scott managed to throw a curveball at us that took all our speciation to be true and wrong at the same time. What do we even call this method of story writing that Scott made for himself?

>>527663095
She's not evil though

>>527663285
and as we all know, there is only one person that can be named ralph

>>527663095
well, when you put it like that...
UNDERSTANDABLE

>>527663685
Don’t be disingenuous.

Whelp, I can now post this now.

M1 only being possible by being Fiona's ghost is stupid. Why even put that in?

SotM was pretty good and I hope that if we ever get a second FNAF chapter in DBD that it'd be the Mimic and MCM as a map.

>>527664284
>my headcanon is stupid
okay

>>527664297
White Tiger would be better imo

>>527663285
Afton's and Henry's are too but the Silver Eyes isn't canon.

Fiona

>>527654535
am I the only one who thinks that Glitchtrap skin looks even more peak than the actual Springtrap? For it being a mere copy of the original, Mimico sure did nail it with that one.

So are the lore updates really that bad or is it just mixed opinions

>>527664927
I think the lord updates are great because it makes john funaff look like he's about to cry when he talks about them

>>527663315
> What do we even call this method of story writing that Scott made for himself?
It shall be called plotshifting also known as MatPatting

>>527664927
Depends on how much you care about Henry Emily.

>>527665098
weird, since even tdreads and gibi weren't freaking out like him

>>527665430
that's because fuhnaff is legitimately autistic

Imagine being a child of preschool age and having your dad go insane from the loss of his wife, so he builds a terrifying looking robot and says that you're gonna call it "Mommy" from now on.

>>527665430
It's as I said in the prior thread. Fuhnaff has nothing else going on besides theory crafting and lacks the charisma of his predecessor MatPat.
He built his career on post SB theorycrafting and now that Scott busted that all up he is baffled as he doesn't know how to proceed with his youtube career.
He shoulded headed Mat's warning about Scott plot shifting

>>527665761
you think he will be blacklisted from SW's good boy youtubers

>>527664927
I think people misunderstood most of the lore honestly, me included.
It's not so much that Edwin made everything, he's more or less just a contractor for Fazbear Entertainment. The only thing I really find egregious is him perfecting the Springlocks, that just makes Henry and Edwin look worse by default.
Henry selling him out is something I'd bet more on him being spineless and a pushover in the 80s based on the books, William more than likely got him to agree that Edwin was a lost cause and the best case scenario was taking everythign from him. I think he only really grew a spine in the time between 1 and PS.

>>527665917
brutal, there won't be another mainline games for at least two or three years for him to make videos

White Tiger wasn't scary there I said it I'm sorry but it really wasn't that bad and if you found it scary you probably pissed and shitted yourself with Slender Man I'm sorry but that's my thoughts.

>>527665889
would

>>527665889
I'd be down honestly
>t. bad childhood

>>527665889
would it have been less scary if he gave it a costume that vaguely resembled fiona?

>>527665991
He didn't actually perfect the springlocks. Mrs. Helpful says his need to be kept away from water still

>>527666618
I'd argue it'd be more scary if he gave it a Fiona costume. Even a 100% accurate costume would be scary.

>>527666271
she won't fuck you nigga

>>527666895
literally who?

just like father and daughter
https://x.com/ObiWanKenobifn/status/1934645656452309062

>>527668135
His teeth are so white! What's his dental hygiene regimen?

Any playlists that are nothing but phone calls from fangames?

this is so cute, I didn't noticed they had more photos

>>527668793
Fiona’s tooth gap is super cute.

>>527668793
That's not Edwin....pic related is the only true Edwin

>>527668929
if he got old maybe

>>527668793
This looks an awful lot like me and my girlfriend...

Henry and William ruined this.

>>527669254
>sex havers in my general

>>527668928
Keep in mind that Ed and Fiona invited their employees into their house for their New Years parties.

>>527647236
>Is there any part of this game's story that is 100% original?
To steal from my friend nas, no idea's original

>>527669254
Ggrrrr I know it's you Scott! Why'd you do it Scott? Why'd you make your self insert oc do nut steel and why did you ruin my years of heavy theorizing?! Why?

>>527669484
Based William Afton.

Edwin and Fiona

>>527669614
>the fnaf lore leaving my body as i lose my virginity

Edwin was a work-aholic who killed his family with his poor career choice.

>>527669484
>henry sends an email saying he thinks the springlocks are too dangerous
>gets dragged into everthing else his business partner does for all eternity

>>527670293
Ignorance is bliss my friend, don't concern yourself with the secrets of scary people.

>>527669484
Hank deserved to lose his daughter. He was fine with taking advantage of his grieving friend who was losing everything because of the stupid project they had him working on, so he deserved to lose everything he had too.

>cucks edwin
>kills his wife
>kills his son
>takes his tech
>takes his factory
>takes his house

>>527669965
>>527670631
is it confirmed that Afton killed Fiona in fall fest?

>>527670293
Please lean how to read. Edwin is talking about both Henry and Afton here. That’s why he keeps saying they and them, and says that they aren’t his friends anymore. >>527660962

>>527670631
LOOK AT EM GO!!!

>>527670887
edwin being delusional about business relationships doesn't equate to someone purposefully ruining his life

Didn’t know we had the Henry Defense Force working full time here.

Didn’t know we had the Edwin Defense Force working full time here.

are we safe Frightgames bros

>>527670806
>confirmed
You’re asking for confirmation in a series that’s based on theories? Are you brain damaged?

>>527671138
Except it’s not just Edwin saying it, Fiona was clearly warning him too. Can you read, or are you the professional Fazbear bootlicker?

>>527669484
>both David and Fiona had emerald eyes
You know who else had emerald eyes??? HMMMMMMMMMM

>>527671946
dumb man and dumb woman don't understand that business associates aren't your friends
at 10'o'clock sky is blue confirmed

Nothing Edwin does couldn't have been Henry's accomplishments, Scott cucked his own character for no reason

>>527672338
they're blue bro

>>527672406
Not him but his late father also warned him about Fazbear, retard. He was a good businessman.

>>527672579
My bad, Fiona's definitely blue but David's emerald.

>>527672778
Looks grey to me

>>527672550
why do creators do that

>>527672594
edwins late father warned him against being dumb but dumb man did not listen
sad that the only murray that understood how business works wasn't alive anymore

>>527672778
Is that why Tiger has a blue eye and a green eye?

>>527670631
>BRING YOUR TRADE
>BRING YOUR TITLE
>BRING YOUR WIFE
>WE'LL FUCK HER
>THAT'S RIGHT, WE'LL FUCK YOUR WIFE
>BECAUSE HERE AT BIG BILL'S, YOU'RE FUCKED SIX-WAYS FROM SUNDAY

At best, Henry was a spineless bitch who didn’t want to stand up for his friend who was losing everything, and at worst, he was complicit in everything. There’s no way he didn’t know when he was making calls to Edwin to further bloat the budget of the Fazbear Project, and sabotage him just like William was doing.

How many Mimic endos are there in total? Is Moon one of them? I mean, it's definitely an animatronic because of the mechanical noises it makes, but I'm certain it's not M2.

>>527670631
>>527673443
I don’t think burning women alive counts as cuckoldry.

>>527673585
>There’s no way he didn’t know when he was making calls to Edwin to further bloat the budget
this is really cute revisionism of henry's sole communications in sotm being about stopping the springlocks because they were clearly deathtraps. no, it was all about bloating teh budget!!1!

>>527673713
>I'm certain it's not M2.
that fucking endo can teleport all over the structure but this one area makes you think it's something else for some bizarre reason?

>>527673972
And yet Edwin’s springlock suits are the safest and best versions of the suits we’ve ever seen, since the Captain suit saved Arnold from falling to his death.

>>527673713
There’s only one endo, and the Moon might be a dead guy.

I really don't think Henry was outright malicious when it came to his treatment of Edwin in SotM.
If anything it was just him being a spineless coward and going with what William says since he's his best friend.
The fact that he ran away and hid for 30 years after his daughter died rather than attempting to expose William only adds to this. Pizzeria Sim is his best way of atoning for his cowardice.

from what I could gather, these are the potential remaining threats in the verse

>>527675327
It’s way too little, and way too late. He’s already complicit in Slick Willy’s bullshit, and doing nothing to stop him makes him just a guilty.

>>527675585
Eleanor does not exist.

>>527675212
it explicitly makes servo sounds as it walks about tho

>>527648980
Damn new Cyberdemon looks weeeiiird

>>527675758
if he can make the mimic canon, Scott can put her in the games without making frights canon

Who do you mostly ship with who in the fnaf universe?

>>527675758
Vanessa is eleanor

>DLC is Fiona vs William in the Glitchtrap suit during Fall Fest

>>527672171
Edwin blob makes no sens to me. It's clearly the animatronics from FNAF6. It has molten freddy's head.
So it's either MCI or Ennard, or both.

>>527676779
It’s probably just possessed by Agony.

>>527672171
>CC = Golden Freddy
>confirmed

>>527674670
Henry and William rejected his springlock suits since they function only as suits rather than being able to shift between animatronic mode and suit mode.
Plus I think you can probably bullshit some reasons as to why the Springsuits at FFD are less durable. Like decades of wear and tear or some kid spilling fruit punch on a poor sap.

MXES IS A RABBIT BECAUSE.... BECAUSE IT JUST IS, OKAY?!??!

>>527676928
lol

>>527677172
it's clear we still don't have the full mxes/cradle/f1on4 story

Mimic is just Silver Eyes book trilogy Charlie.
FNAF movie's drawing thing is from the Silver Eyes book trilogy.

It's very clear Scott just wants to reuse ideas from OG books

>>527677813
>Mimic is just Silver Eyes book trilogy Charlie.
It will be Gregory if anyone

>Edwin it's me
Wait does this mean Edwin is actually possessing M2 somehow?

>>527677813
I hated the Silver Eyes when it came out but it's hindsight it was miles better than the modern shit.

>>527672171
henry isn't OMC, there's no explanation for him
he just is
he's FNAF's gaster

>>527678265
>agony soulslop shit
no

>>527677813
These books are mid but Scott cannibalizing it as a clutch for his writing is genuinely such an awful idea

SOTM is just Scott playing Portal 2 then ripping it off verbatim + mimic is there too

William Afton killed David in order to take over Edwins company

>>527678471
there's no character in fnaf as good as GLADOS or wheatley though
if fiona is anything it's SHODAN from system shock 2
she's got the look plus the whole "oh she was dead all along" thing fits

>>527678803
In no time it's implied that Fiona is dead ; she might just have left

>>527678803
AI controlling the facility being the female partner of the facility owner shoved into a computer is taken straight from Portal 2, also the general aesthetic is very close to the 70s section of portal 2

>>527678961
that idea is far older than Portal 2, you retarded zoomer

>>527679064
name ten examples

>>527679192
SHODAN, AM, Cortana, HAL 9000, Skynet, THe architect from Matrix, VIKI, Wintermute, The Machines, The Cylons, Samaritan, and the men of Iron from wh 40k

>>527676175
Circus Baby and myself.

Henry has actually been quite a dick this whole time, man.

>the only morally good characters in the series are white women
What did Scott mean by this?

Why does everyone say that there is a Fiona's spirit in the computer when Edwin clearly says it's NOT her, but a literal heartlesss machine he mistakenly let raise his kid? She is literally an AI trying to replace his wife, and in the end he eventually realizes he made a mistake creating her and regrets it.

>>527681297
>Why does everyone say that there is a Fiona's spirit in the computer
Literally never heard that

I swear, modern FNAF is weird with ghosts and supernatural stuff, it's like it wants to go full sci-fi but doesn't want to lose the paranormal fans
>HW is a soft reboot, previous games don't matter, but we accidentally scanned William's soul into the game, or is it William?
>SB is our first fully sci-fi game, but William still exists and Vanessa's ghost appears in one cutscene
>Ruin continues the sci-fi leanings of SB but implies ghosts exist
>HW2 continues the sci-fi VR, but Cassie's dad died and possesses mapbot
>SOTM keeps the Mimic as our first fully sci-fi antagonist, but has Tiger Rock and Moon, both implied to be ghosts

Mr. Cupcake is so cute in this game!!!

>>527678265
I still find it remarkable that the movie is still visibly not that different from the TSE script.

>>527681297
>>527681429
There is a recording where Edwin finds out he can hear Fiona's voice in the basement if he tunes to a specific frequency.

Later on, he complains that M2 "didn't work like before" which implies something specific happened with M1.

Implication is that some of Fiona's spirit actually is in the M1 program, which is why she's so sentient compared to M2

>>527681546
everything you interpret as supernatural is not actually supernatural or even happening at all

The Mimic going to sleep in David's room is lowkey cute, I wish they allowed us to actually personally tuck him in. I wonder however, what the fuck is that bed made of that he didn't just crush the whole damn thing?

>>527681192
>movie Vanessa joins the police just to cover her dad's murders
Yeh, beacon of morality

>>527681880
https://nitter.poast.org/puffyclouder
>https://nitter.poast.org/puffycloude
>https://www.pixiv.net/en/users/59648257
>https://baraag.net/@sharewared
>Admitted ban evader Self inserting fujoshit also drawing real children
>Her Ban evasion, samefagging, and bragging about shitting up the general
>https://arch.b4k.dev/vg/thread/519661929/#520150984

>>527682295
>movie
lol

>>527681968
Why couldn't it be so he was literally just going crazy?

>>527677813
Still pissed off at how utterly wasted some of the ideas and designs from the novels were, even if the last one was quite crap-tastic, both in that they let some random Deviantart scribbler handle a task as important as making a graphic novel and that they would only see themselves in a diluted form in games. Fan projects alone can only compensate for so much.

>>527664927
We should start raiding /utg/ if they keep shitting up our thread.

>>527682442
It's a hidden recording so it probably means something

>>527681968
>There is a recording where Edwin finds out he can hear Fiona's voice in the basement if he tunes to a specific frequency.
it's literally just the mimic
it's mimicking a fiona line from one of the films reels

>>527682334
Once again, that’s not me bro

>>527647630
>>527681880
>>527682820
https://www.reddit.com/user/SuspendedPain/
https://rule34.paheal.net/post/list/SuspendedPain/1
https://e621.net/posts?tags=suspendedpain
https://chan.sankakucomplex.com/?tags=suspendedpain
https://tbib.org/index.php?page=post&s=list&tags=suspendedpain
https://baraag.net/@A4r0n
19 yo Discord slav fujoshit with "le prey kink"
Has drawn porn of real children from the movie
https://arch-img.b4k.co/vg/1693544523542.png
https://files.catbox.moe/pw65rn.png
Her Ban ip wipes proving her samefagging and evasion style of posting/images
https://arch.b4k.dev/vg/thread/510417427/#510423262
https://arch.b4k.dev/vg/thread/511942332/#512152707
https://arch.b4k.dev/vg/thread/514323794/#514327060
https://arch.b4k.dev/vg/search/image/67Unz2kYVZH01TIpWG-1Mg/

So what do you think he's actually up to at this point?

>tfw haven't worked on my game in 4 years

>>527675758
She is very dangerous and powerful

bad ending is the canon one isn't it

>>527683869
I always assume bad endings are always the true endings after living this long.

>>527684037
>bad endings are always the true endings
sadly accurate

>>527681945
How so? My only experience with Silver Eyes was the graphic novels.

>>527682163
I'd beat the shit out of him with a metal pipe if he mimicked my son like that.

>>527684815
>My only experience with Silver Eyes was the graphic novels.
This is why I will never not be mad at the graphic novels.

>>527685603
Are they very different?

>>527676175
Gregory and Vanny

>>527685778
they're drawn by a pedophile

>>527685919
Pinky Pills is great. I don't care that she masturbated to the thought of Scott Cawthon. I genuinely enjoy her art.

>>527685778
The main criticism of the graphic novels is the poor quality art, but they also have some continuity errors. And listening to audio or reading through the passages directly just gives a lot more context clues and immersion.

>>527676175
Roxanne Wolf and ME

>>527686148
>Pinky Pills is great.
The art is very very not good quality though, even a lowly mangaka could have done much better renderings. The sameface syndrome and lack of lighting are particularly egregious as much as how the environments are butchered.

So what's with the gator in a hat trying to kill Baby Owl/David?

>>527645628
being at freddy's for five nights

>>527683225
not him either, schizo bot

>>527686590
Reading these terminals from the game made me play through Alien Isolation and now I really wish that I didn't because I am very xenophobic.

>>527686590
monty has always been a bastard

>>527686590
He's Afton

>>527683276
Avatarfagging is against the rules suspendedpain
https://arch.b4k.dev/vg/search/image/jiMaOuZ4eepSgMQJXnf3Sg/

>>527687143
YWNBAJ

Market player is streaming it

I know what moon is

>>527687450
yeah it's a suit for m2

>>527687342
Did Scott bribe him?

>>527686486
I don't mind the same-face syndrome because the faces are cute, especially the guys, very attractive

>>527687571
nope, it's literally the same endo that is daycare attendant in security breach/ruin.

>>527666271
Truthnuke.

>>527687669
>the faces are cute, especially the guys, very attractive
In 99% of the panels I guarantee the faces are not rendered well at all relative to the described appearances.

Odd thought I've had, the way Fazbear operates against MCM in SotM basically makes them the Chuck-E-Cheese version of 80s WWE in their expansion period.

>moon's voice actor is edwin's
oh

The Moon is specifically NOT the Mimic. There are logs from workers saying they had to trap it in the basement an warning others not to let it out even before the Mimic became violent.
That plus the fact that his blueprints show it's meant have a human inside specifically tells me it's some kind of zombie like Springtrap.

>>527687924
Oh no yeah they are very inaccurate to the novels in terms of designs

>>527688139
it's probably where M2 stuffed Edwin's body, Edwin is the Moon in Moon.exe

the fourth closet visual novel is still the best looking official comic

MY NAME IS EDWIN
I MADE THE EVERYTHING

>>527688286
They got close SOMETIMES but still not as good as some early concept drawings made before the graphic novels got. Least some of the outfits were consistent.
>>527688567
It's only when they brought on another artist alongside Pinky for TFC did the art improve a little bit within the same style. Still not the right tone at all, but at least the quality got up to "passable" for some of the panels.

FNAF. SECRET OF THE
RETCON.

>>527688387
Note that it has the same voice actor as Edwin and is guarding David's ball too.

>>527688752
what's the retcon chud?
your headcanon is not real huh

It's hilarious their shitty attempts at making the Mimic a more "intimidating" villain than William by jacking his kill count for no fucking reason
>William starts the series 5 comfirmed in the very first game, and the increase of victims is small and only the absolute necessary for the story, with just a few exceptions
>The Mimic starts the series with maybe one victim??? Then they gave a him 10+ dead children that are never mentioned in SB, then they gave him who knows how many dead people in SOTM
Note to Steel Wool, giving your villain a gigantic kill count does not make them interesting or better

>>527681880
Added Chica

>>527689012
I feel like the Mimic is different because it's a very physical, direct force compared to William.
William is a schemer, the Mimic (at least in SotM, not in SB where they wanted him to be Afton so bad) he's on your ass at all times barring when it's the Moon or David.

>>527689012
Don't forget all the human staff of the Pizzaplex who are heavily implied to all have died, all the workers and some teenagers during the building of the Pizzaplex if that part of the books still happened, the other workers from the scrapped FNAF AR emails, seriously this fucker has killed so many damn people it's absurd

>>527689012
Ironically I don't think the focus of SOTM was the Mimic, more its backstory and fleshing out FNAF lore in general. The Murrays are interesting, William is made more relatably evil, and Henry gets actual depth to his character

>>527689012
he's a rogue ai, he's more dangerous than some furfag by default

>>527666895
>White Tiger will never fuck you

>>527676175
various iterations of bonnie and chica

>>527676175
Adult Puppet with big tits, Vanny, and every Chica x Me

>>527686486
cringe weeb kys

>>527689012
>>William starts the series 5 comfirmed in the very first game, and the increase of victims is small and only the absolute necessary for the story, with just a few exceptions
he kills 5 more kids in FNAF 2 that are never brought up again

>>527690214
“Weeb” website.
Go back.

>>527690214
>pointing out that japs pay attention to lineart more than deviantartists makes you a weeb
KYS

>>527690497
It's cause you mentioned mangaka you fucking sperg

>Fiona's ghost possesses M1/MXES and that's why the robot mimicks her correctly
>David possesses Tiger Rock, not M2, so without any supernstural help M2's A.I. fails to be a convincing human even after Edwin copied M1's code

>>527690497
>japs
bro, cool it with the racist language

>>527690396
>he kills 5 more kids in FNAF 2 that are never brought up again
If you're referring to the possessed animatronics in that game, it's more likely those are controlled by the puppet.

GodDavid is fucking real and I hate everything

>>527690864
That's the most likely thing. Also, David's death was different as a kid and he probably couldn't linger properly.

>>527690750
What do you call a Japanese comic artist?

>>527690990
No retard, he's referring to the dead children from SAVETHEM. Those aren't the MCI, since the MCI died at a location with the Classics (and there were already rumors about murders prior to 87) and they aren't just bodies since The Puppet wants them to be 'saved'.

>>527691229
Don’t bother replying to the underage retard

>>527690864
M2 is able only to attain some small form of sentience after being embroiled with Edwin's pure rage

>>527691229
a manga artist.

>>527686486
I think her art style is unique. I enjoy it.

>>527688139
I never saw this thing during my playthrough. How did I miss it?

>>527691229
You could have just said "a more experienced artist" and you wouldn't have exposed yourself as a shitsucker. I will not reply to you anymore because you're beneath me.

>>527688936
meds, chud

>analogy about eating excrement

>>527692207
>You could have just said "a more experienced artist"
but that literally wasn't the point of comparison in the post you schizophrenic retard, it was a pretty fucking specific comparison between two baselines

>>527689016
Super cute.

>>527692041
Too bad the graphic novels weren't that level of quality.

>>527676175
goldie and bonnie

moon.exe is so cringe

ghost can't just posses things when it's convenient for your headcanon

>>527661847
This theory sounds very schizophrenic but it checks out...

Now that we have a proper understanding of events. whos's ready to remake the timeline in 2025? Does anyone here in /Fnaf/ want to make a proper graphic timeline, or remake this in Photoshop?

>>527677813
That’s completely wrong.

i can't tell what'd be funnier, if david got ran over by william on his 15th bender of the week or if arnold ran him over because FE made him work a 144 hour shift

>this lil nigga is apparently a god
What the fuck?

>>527694448
You faggots let retards tell you the lore and then get mad at their retarded lore interpretation

>>527688139
It might be Gary, a worker who was reported missing near the area where you can find Moon.

>>527694527
Yeah but it kind of makes sense that Gregory is David.

>>527693693
>MCI before bite of 83
damn this image is old

>>527693065
the real question is this unsalvageable like the time-traveling ball pit story. Or is this the new meta now and even beyond all those books now?

>>527691368
Don’t forget
>Someone used one of the suits. We had a spare in the back, a yellow one, someone used it...now none of them are acting right.

>>527690864
Could also be explained as Edwin not actually being around for his son like he was with Fiona, so he couldn’t copy him correctly because he never truly got to know him.

Someone said and I agree, SOTM gave us answers to question nobody ever asked

>>527692041
Why does he have his tongue out

>>527695362
That was my take. Fiona seems to have come back from some kind of memory power, as Edwin truly missed her.

He never really gave a shit about David, so he couldn't bring him back.

>>527694997
I don't know but I still love the idea of Glamrock Freddy having the soul of Michael Afton and Gregory being an allegory for Crying Child but we know that's not true.

>>527695529
CC retroactively being a nothing character that’s basically just David is so fucking stupid.

this thread could use more susie

>>527661847
>>527663315
>>527695417
Scott did it, he actually did it! he threw a curveball at us that managed to take all the ideas from the fandom and turn them into this game.

>>527695362
Remnant is a product of strong memories, so this could actually be the case.

>>527695990
Wasn't "Gregory is a robot" a very early idea?

>>527695990
This lil nigga gunna grow up and be a wolf beater sum day!

Glitchtrap confirmed to be Willy

>>527695529
>>527695945
CC and David have narrative parallels but he's literally not David by definition because David fucking dies and becomes a ghost you retards.

>>527696195
No I know he’s not literally David I just hate they’re essentially the same character except David “came first” inuniverse.

>>527696053
I think The Yellow Thing and M1 are the same kind of thing- memory beings

>>527696272
David is tied into Edwin's lore while CC is tied into the lore of a bunch of completely different people.

>>527695513
He did care about David, but he was just more focused on his work, and kept putting him off because he thought he could make up for it later.

>>527695990
I have a crackpot theories that this ending is canon and that the mimic in anons pic related is the Endo skeleton for Gregory. Gregory is a fucking ROBOT. DEBUNK MY CRACKPOT THEORY.

>>527696060
>>527696578

it was based on the assumption of the therapy tapes back in Fnafsb. The crying child and Gregory are in fact actual real boys in those games. The mimic brainwashed them into thinking similarly to David, thus having similar incidents at certain points at the time.

>>527696736
Mimic has nothing to do with CC

>>527695990
look at this cute lil sneed

>Edwin invented recycling
Sigh

GHOSTS ARE FAKE IT'S ALL ROBOTS

>>527696304
They’re close, but different. Pit Bonnie is an Agony Entity that’s a reflection of the bad memories of Afton’s victims before he killed them. M1 was made through Edwin thinking about Fiona, and all of the happy memories the shared together, so he was able to successfully bring her back through Remnant.

>>527697128
Right, I meant that they are opposites

>>527696821
CC’s room is built to be just like David’s, on the same property, with David’s toys.
And he wears the same shirt.
You’re not picking up on anything fucky when you think about that?
And we have Gregory wearing the exact same shit, and he was obviously being brainwashed by weird Mimic shit.

>>527697090
why would you say this now when the most recent game has ghosts in it

>>527697309
white tiger is a breakdown from arnold because he's been awake for 40 hours. (and is secretly david, who ran away. I guess?. that ones tough.)

>>527697498
it can kill him

we WILL see Eleanor, and she is super strong

jackie's box has done irreparable damage to that FNAF community (for the better)

is it true that you can find David's ashes in the last stretch of the game? I keep looking but they don't appear.

>>527697498
COPE

>>527697620
David's ball being the hardest collectible means Jackie's Box is canon

>>527697578
gameplay consideration.
>>527697643
Yeah, a little.

I think the Murray story is stronger than the original Afton story

>>527660995
>Now we have the implications that the mimic brainwashing the crying child and Gregory into behaving like David
How so?
>>527695417
I wanted to know what Chica's Party World was for a longest time. I'm very happy that was answered.

>>527698620
It objectively is. Not that I don't have an inherent love for the Afton story since it's nostalgic as all hell, but they simply aren't characters for the most part.

>>527698620
Murray has something going on for him
>he has a loving wife and child
>tragedy befalls him
>that malicious prick afton is working behind the scenes to fuck with him.

>>527697257
>CC’s room is built to be just like David’s
except it is not
>on the same property
headcanon
>with David’s toys.
>And he wears the same shirt
kids aren't allowed to have similar clothes or toys

>>527698753
yep, the kids have zero character, and Afton is a good villain, but the Murray story is really good and you get what's going on with Fiona, F10N4, and Edwin. David doesn't get much but he's a kid so whatever
also William works really well as a horrible corporate villain as much as he does a murderer mad scientist

>>527698883
>tragedy befalls him
me when I ignore my 4yo son all the time and he dies in an accident
"tragedy befell me"

are they going to improve the SB characters or poochie them?

>>527699125
Fiona died of something along with the fact he, presumably, had some sort of interpersonal issues that stemmed from fucking something and I don't think it was the tism.

>>527696821
>>527697257
>>527698736
With what Scott is saying to us with this game...
>>527698967
unfortunately, I believe the game is exactly telling us that is the case...

Well, im talking about the Goddavid theory. In the video I posted, the YouTubers break down why this theory might be true... In their own words at the beginning of their discussion, they said that I you see something similar multiple times, it's probably true.

This isn't Scott twisting our nipples anymore, he's telling us this is exactly what he intended it to be....

>>527699313
>>527699125
he's definitely autistic if you listen to all his logs, including the helpy ones

>>527699313
>Fiona died of something
I think it was implied in two of the audio logs that Fiona died in a Fallfest fire.
>>527699398
>they said that I you see something similar multiple times, it's probably true.
Doesn't mean it is. I'm not trying to be combative for the sake of it. It is that I don't see the connections there. There can be parallels and similarities in stories.

>>527699398
you either have tdreads brain rot so deep that you are picking up his speech patterns or you are literally him shilling your vid

>>527699398
Afton repossessed the property because he literally owns it. That's it.

>>527699580
Yeah but theres also something else going on with him - the half hearted detachment he has when (real) fiona tells him he has to come to the party. "He'll have one next year." then with the fake fiona where he hard drops that camera and leaves him in the sand pit, that's not just the actions of an autist that's a dude who has some buried issues with either being a dad or with that kid in particular but he loves that kid enough to have a fucking meltie over his death and make the worlds best and only attempt at a real robokid.

>>527699313
Ed seems like the kind of guy that derives self worth from being helpful to everyone. He needs his products to be useful to everyone, regardless of what they need, or else it’s just not good enough. That why he makes products like his adjustable coat rack, or self learning coffee machine, and portrays himself as Mr. Helpful.

>>527699928
he didn't give a fuck about M2 compared to M1. I don't think he really loved David as much as he did Fiona

>>527700218
adding onto this I wonder if David was an accident, or Fiona wanted him more than Edwin? a DLC would be interesting about this, especially if Fiona is the MC

>>527700218
He did love fiona more, the issue with M2 was that he couldn't remove the fact his kid died from it - I guess he could either delusion himself into accept M1ONA or maybe M1 sounds enough like not fiona to not trigger him? Might be worth running through all the voice logs between M1ona and edwin to see if she ever commits to the bit when they're alone.

Something subtle I liked was how Fiona's real voice and Fiona's AI voice were different. It didn't have those imperfect inflections in it that her real voice had. I wonder if they ran the VA's voice into an AI model for her AI voice segments.

>>527700218
That’s just not true. He didn’t care about M2 because he realized he wanted the real David back, not a copy. He was distraught over the fact that he neglected his son instead of raising him and teaching him how to build things, and let a robot raise him instead. He clearly cares, otherwise he wouldn’t have had such a meltdown.

>>527700460
Edwin has a melty eventually about F10N4 but for most of her logs she's legit and even calls him out when he's being dumb. He also says that M2 didn't work out like M1. I'm guessing M1 has some positive remnant in her so she can really be an ongoing copy of Fiona. For whatever reason, probably because he didn't make memories with David, he couldn't replicate that with M2

>>527700580
It's the realization that he didn't love David properly that gives him the meltie- he sure as hell didn't when he was alive. That's probably why he couldn't bring him back like he did Fiona

>hi im henry. im gonna fuck around with my work and just build one robot to watch my kid despite her being ruthlessly bullied. oops she died wahhh now im gonna cry about it and let afton fuck everything up
omg so sad you did nothing wrong king
>hi im edwin. im gonna fuck around with my work and build an entire factory for my son to play with and a robot to watch him. also my wife is dead and i'm being harassed by a much larger company. oh no hes dead fuck im sad
what the fuck. you evil bastard

>>527701080
does anyone think that about edwin though? he's a more tragic character than henry- the worst thing he did was beat M2, which seems to not have been David at all

I think people are misinterpreting M2. He remembers his time with David. That's why the one playing with David has the orange eyes despite being the M1 program. Fiona wasn't even in M1 until later since Mimic was originally just to watch David

Do you think were going to get more edwin next, or will they shift over henry man

>>527701401
With any luck the next game actually gives Gregory and Vanessa proper characters

There's a tiny chance Edwin is still alive

>>527699829
I'm not disagreeing with anything you said... but I believe in Scott's abstract ability to tell his story to be ambiguous enough to be true and the other way around. he will find away to use the mystery of fnaf 4 box to put this story all together, one way or another...

>>527699869
no... it's just that when you see what the series has become post fnaf 4, you understand where it could go to. After pizza simulator and Security Breach, that aspect has been made clear to me.

I'm not saying the theory I fully believe it. But I know enough by being in this franchise, that it is close enough to something that Scott is revaling right now.

David is too cute and didn't deserve it

honestly this is the first FNAF game to have a proper narrative with good characters since SB- they should just keep this up

>>527701397
>Fiona wasn't even in M1 until later since Mimic was originally just to watch David
Are we sure on this? I know there's the one audio log where Edwin is introducing the mimic to David as pretty just it's book counterpart and not "hey son, here's this robot that acts like your dead mother", but that's all I got.

>>527701719
he made M1 to be David's buddy but eventually he found out about Fiona's soul(?) lingering and linked it to M1

>>527701705
SOTM and SL have the best narratives

>>527701719
Yes. I imagine after Edwin realizes Fiona is still around via the 4625 frequency he gave her a vessel. That's why Mimic is programmed to get into costumes and be silly and play around + the point of the 'you're my only friend' thing from the MCM commercials. Mimic was David's friend, then he was forced to be a vessel for Fiona, and once she was gone tried to be the only thing he knew how to be - like David - and was punished by Edwin. From that point forward he chose to be something much worse

It seems nonsensical, but if you put all the events together. Could you really say this is a sane series?

>>527701972
it's definitely something linked to souls/remnant, because M1 "worked" while M2 didn't. I think something about Fiona's soul made M1 work while David couldn't complete M2, leading to the abuse and subsequent murders

>>527701705
>>527701846
SL came very close but ultimately wanted to be a spooky mystery for theoryslop too badly to be as cohesive a story as it should have been. SotM takes its time and, without the baggage of having to keep all the lore secret with old characters, just completely goes wild. There's a reason CB is the best written Clickteam character; her story is straight up, her motivations are straight up, and she's both malicious and tragic. SotM also does well with that stuff.
>>527702164
M1 had Fiona in it. David never haunted M2. I believe the intended narrative is that, by viciously assaulting and hurting Mimic, Edwin made it 'work'. Edwin made M2 (or, as we know him, THE Mimic) feel a very human emotion; every bit of unbridled rage he has ever had.

>>527702358
>>527701846
I meant SL I am glad you understood what I meant to say. SB sucks

>>527702164
>M2 didn't
what made it not work? was it just that Edwin already had his crashout before "completing" M2, teaching it violence/infusing it with agony before making the log saying it doesn't work? because clearly with the secret ending, it can be made to work.

>>527702358
the question is why David couldn't get into M2 the same way Fiona could get into M1. I can only assume it had something to do with Edwin's bad parenting, but maybe it's something to do with William and Fall Fest

>>527702542
I think he beat the shit out of M2 -because- he wasn't David the same way M1 was Fiona. His soul is haunting the factory as White Tiger so somehow he couldn't make it into M2, or he chose not to
I think the frustration behind M2 not being as good a continuation of David as M1 was with Fiona made him go crazy and beat the endo out of mania

>>527702124
experiencing things chronologically would certainly smooth over the obviousness of the retcons, but it would be jarring going from the fully articulated work of MCM to the more primitive Freddy's locations from the first few games.
that's what irks me about the game more than anything. i'm alright with them setting a game in the past, even if it's not what I would've done, but it's really jarring to see such advanced technology in the 70s. where the hell did all this stuff go? why did nobody use any of it in the 50 years between SOTM and SB?

>>527702582
Edwin made F1ona, literally, but he also spent time with it after and fed it all the information it needed to become not just a fascimilie, but a true continuation of her. He never had the experience necessary with David - he never had the 'love' he had with Fiona to imbue into david / M2.

>>527702124
up there with kojima slop, kingdom heart and Sonic

>>527702774
>His soul is haunting the factory as White Tiger so somehow he couldn't make it into M2
so how does the secret ending work?
the tiger plush is somehow a conduit for david's soul?

>instead of building on our existing characters let's make some completely different no-name randos instead who do the same shit as our old characters
why are they like this

At the least, I'm 100% certain David isn't Mimic.
>The evil that men do lives after them. The good is oft interred with their bones.
I wouldn't call 'David' Edwin's evil. But hitting Mimic certainly was. Literally all that is left of Edwin in this world is the machine he made and imbued with all of the bitter hatred and contempt for the world he had, every reason he had to lash out when his family and company were taken from him. Nobody recognizes Edwin's machines as his, Edwin's name did not carry on into the modern day like William's, and there is not a single living soul to survive after Edwin. The only thing of Edwin's that endured is The Mimic, the embodiment of his anger

>>527702962
Yeah I agree, that seems to be the case
>>527703014
I think the secret ending doesn't imply David is in the M2- it's the M2 successfully mimicking David. Sun/F10N4 helps you rid the M2 of the agony/violence and let it just be a happy kid.

I will probably write a fic about that ending because it leaves Arnold and F10N4 in a very strange situation

>>527703175
>glitchtrap is literally edwin's seething hatred towards fazbear and the world taking the form of the company's founder who fucked him over to destroy modern fazbear
ok i like it

>>527703249
I like to think that Arnold immediately passed out after staying up for nearly two days straight

>>527703615
what I was thinking is that Arnold wakes up and the M2 is fully Davidmode, and he realizes he's essentially the lord of MCM. so he connects with Sun and he starts fixing shit

>>527703249
when edwin is talking to m2 the subtitle says it's m2
when the mimic says I love you the subtitle says it's david
what the hell is "successful" mimicking if m1 isn't also that?

>>527703807
I think it's just the M2 successfully became a copy of David. M1/Fiona is legitimately her soul continuing from her death
by getting rid of the agony/violence in M2, it becomes "David", as Fiona wanted

>>527702974
Not yet... despite the fanfictions, rule34, vore art, and the other degenerate things the fanbase conceived. We haven't reached the peak of what those other franchises have become.

>>527703995
fiona can magically reach out with her soul after death
david cannot
this is somehow logical

>>527704008
>mimic... I remember you're genocides

>>527704071
see >>527702962
it's probably based on emotion. remnant has forever been about agony and fear, but this could be the flipside where love and happiness brings a soul back
edwin couldn't muster that love for david that he did for fiona. because he didn't spend enough time with him

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rSbnvlenUaM&list=PLqwqa7_s41By-MokyNedKGYys2bzzvWfx

>it's legitimately her soul!
>talks very robotically
is a robo dude she's gone

>>527704330
Her rant in Parachute says otherwise

>>527704256
Remnant is about positive emotions and good memories, while Agony is the opposite.

>>527704430
wait if that's the case when has Remnant appeared before? was it just Charlie in silver eyes?

>>527704408
You have to let go of the past anon... it wasn't you fault

>>527704408
she has the circus baby problem of being able to talk like a normal human but refusing to just because

>>527704563
The Scooper blueprints from PS mentioned a Remnant injector.

>>527704832
nah she seems way more verbose and mature than baby. she's legit annoyed by arnold but when he outsmarts her she trusts him

>>527704330
Edwin literally talks to her spirit on the 4625 frequency

>>527668793
>>527668928
>>527669484
oh my vintage

What were the lyrics in the Goodybe song? I got
"SEEEE YOU"
"GOODBYE"
"FAREWELL"
"SEE YOU"
"YOU SAY BYE-BYE"
??? ("DOOPY-DOOPY-DOO"?)
"WE SAY BYE-BYE"
??? ("DOOPY-DOOPY-DOO"?)

>>527704918
oh yeah fiona call me an obedient dog again
call me your good boy
woof woof

Toy chica is built for sex

>>527704924
>literally talks to her spirit
it's literally a line from a film real on davids birthday where ed doesn't want to stop playing with his doohickeys
it's not like a ouija board where he's having a back and forth
maybe the mimic already existed, had heard the line from the recording, then said it over the radio (it sure seems to love radios)
grief stricken edwin wanted to believe it was fiona

>>527668793
His nose is huge

wtf this isnt deltarune thread i got baited

>>527705517
five nights at anime

>>527705373
she cute
>>527705646
anon why would the m1 frequency be on a random radio channel

>>527705980
epi

>>527706028
for the same reason a dead woman would be on a random radio channel I guess, narrative convenience

my name is Edwin is the funniest shit since the bite

>>527706807
>my name is Edwin is the funniest shit since the bite
>807
>87
what did he fucking mean by this

>my name is springtrap
>my name is edwin
who did it better?

honestly secret ending has some interesti ng implications, a disgruntled FE employee has just solved all the issues in MCM. what is he going to do after that?

>>527705517
Best post.

>>527706807
MY NAME IS EDWIN
I MADE RECYCLING

>>527707009
she would be sexier chubby

>>527706962
get his truck repossessed

>>527706807
EDWIN EDWIN EDWIN

>>527707210
>arnold and fiona vs FE

>>527705980
>>527707201

Oh damn, I found a hidden blueprint in the game

>>527708081
that fucking rocktopus is so out of place. I wonder if it's just there to point out how old the business is, as a 70s piece which would date us in 99

What do you think made purple guy into a child killer? Was it revenge for CC turned into "oh bloody hell ded kids (and guards) make for easy paranormality fuel, i can study this" or something else? Is he a sadist or a pragmatist?

>>527707210
Not even the trucks in this world are safe from ghosts

>>527707083
>>527707307
NO. NOT THE CLOWN.
WHAT HAVE I DONE?

>>527708769
Kek.

>>527708598
>park your truck in fnaf world
>some roboghost girl dents it by sitting on it
>some 9yo boy and his robot besr friend steal it and ride off into the night shattering the windshield
>another ghost ends up posessing your vehicle outright making you think someone stole it in the dead of night
can't have shit in utah

>>527708565
His dad probably beat him and called him a disappointment and a faggot.

>https://youtu.be/Yp8o35zahgo
this is fucking dogshit

https://files.catbox.moe/m6itmi.mp4
Even when it's just repeating lines, it really feels like they're all dripping with spite.

>>527709125
yeah that's the joke dumbass

>>527709738
thank god

>>527709151
Mimicking edwins lines in davids voice is kinda devious
also on a side note, hiring a whole as family to voice the murrays, I really feel the daughter and mother mog the dad

Fanf

>>527710361
faf frarf fnf

>>527710361
freddies at night 5

is FuhNaff in shambles

>>527708565
He's just evil

>https://youtu.be/_lsEERSC0Go?si=q5WScLszXiX5xph2
i wish i was the girl here

>>527711383
why are chicks so horny to die

>>527710992
it's so fucking funny
he's exposing himself as the most autistic theorist out there

>CC wears the same shirt as David
Wtf is going on
Is CC the first attempt at an AnotherDavid before Gregory?

>>527713225
Afton just stole Edwin’s house.

>>527708565
Willy killed some people while in Vietnam and that was his first taste of blood.

>>527713541
Gregory is also an AnotherDavid and he has a pretty explicit connection to CC by the ice cream in the canon ending of SB

>>527712267
>theatre kids are autistic
Like clockwork, just like his beloved idol MatPat

David has the homophobia eyes

>>527710992
>>527712267
can any sharty bros make a hanging jak of him

>>527714337
You should jump in front of a train right now

>>527643114
only if you're a children or purple

>>527714393
:'(

>>527708565
probably has some violence trigger like vietnam as another anon said. in real life, these sort of murderers usually have a sexual component that figures into everything - obviously scott ignores it

>>527714337
Make it yourself freeloader

>>527660329
It's kind of a Poppy Playtime knockoff now that you are in an evil scary abandoned factory running away from a monster with long arms.

I miss when phone guy was a phone guy

So what are anons thoughts on Dispatch/Hand Unit? He's become my favorite secondary antagonist in the franchise. I know that M1 was mimicking him for a good part of SotM but overall I like his characterization. It was good to hear his voice at the beginning and the end sound more human-like. Though I will say compared to Phone Guy, Hand Unit feels more higher up corporate while Phone Guy felt more personal in his conversations.

A lot of people are saying Edwin is a much better character than William and Henry and I'm like, yeah, but they all are acting like that is somehow the characters' fault for being "bland" and not Scott for deciding to make a whole game dedicated to Edwin and his personality, backstory, and development which is something he never did for William and Henry
Genuinely so many characters of the classic saga, and even new saga coughVanessacough, desperately needing the love and attention Edwin got in this game and the community just shitting on them like it's somehow the fictional characters' fault they were underwriting and not their writer who screwed them over

>>527717107
Ralph is just the manager of a few locations.

>>527717163
I think it's because new characters oft get hate from those who love old characters. And while there's sometimes legit criticism, it's often just because the old characters have more room for interpretation and people adore headcanon.

>>527717163
I think Scott has some father issues

>>527717163
William, Henry, Michael, CC, Elizabeth, Charlie, Cassidy, the rest of the MCI, even Ms Afton and Ms Emily and perhaps a Sammy, Gregory, Vanessa, Cassidy's dad, to a lesser extent Cassidy, all characters who Scott failed, and instead of properly flashing them out he decides to suck off his new shiny OCs instead of any of them
Michael is the protagonist of the classic saga and he has 1 (one) voiced line in the entire series, the person who desperately needed more flashing out, but this mofo Edwin is the one that gets it instead, in his first game appearance at that
Fuck you Scott

>>527718050
any retard can get that family issues makes for good stories

>markiplier got spooked by the digityper
>has genuine fear of mannequins
Oh, he's gonna HATE the Big Top section

>>527710992
It’s crazy to me that the chicks in the lorefag community are less neurotic about being wrong then him.

>>527720437
fnaf chicks are hot

>David is the baby Owl on MOON.exe
>meanwhile normal route final boss on FNAF World is a heterochromia Owl
SCOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOTTTTTTTTTT

>>527710992
>>527714337
>>527720437
>Scott giving lorefags a whole decade of theorycrafting content
>this is somehow bad

>>527721141
kino
don't forget, there's a tiny chance that we may get world 2 soon

>>527722167
What would people want to see from a potential World 2?

>>527721141
SCOOOOOOOOOTT

>>527722395
for me, same art style but better visuals and a giant roster with all the characters after 4, including the books, other Scott games and fanverse

Edwin Murray in the present era:

who has big boobs itt

>>527723087
>We thought the Funtime Freddy mask was meant to represent Molten Freddy
>It is actually Edwin who also represented himself through Mr. Helper in the past

>>527722395
Good gameplay.

>>527723772
Ballora

>>527720437
Because normal women are neurotic while autistic women are... not...

>>527695967
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>>527702887
Knottingham is a pedophile and furry being protected by his former OCfag friends in skype. They hide in the cynctube and Discords.
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If Burntrap Mimic was still canon, how would you explain the meatsuit?

>>527698620
Agreed. It is nice to see what motivated Edwin and why he did the things he did. It wasn't just 'oh yeah he tortured his kid with nightmares because uhh.. well... tune in for the next game to find out (maybe)!' It was nicely laid out.

>>527726702
someone's corpse that wasn't william
l

>>527723087
>>527723873
>it is gathering up what it found that it thinks is its own creations (with Chica being the one it cherishes the most due to Fiona)
KIIIIIIINOOOOOOOO

i fucking stabbed myself as an accident while cooking because that fucking mimic song keeps popping in my head

>>527730171
all you have to do now is force some link between edwin and the puppet, baby, bonnie, mangle, and 02 endos

>me with my friends Hen, Ralph and Ed

>>527726702
Luca's body from Tales. That dude got springlocked in a bonnie costume in the pizzaplex, cant think of any corpses-in-springlock-suits-at-the-time-of-sb that arent that or william's (though william is ash by then)

can I get an official game where I can finally give Roxy the love she deserves? Or any of them for that matter? Sure I can play the backstage minigame over and over, but there should be more

>>527730171
I want to believe that's the reason why he doesn't attack Cassie upon seeing her in Ruin.

>>527732228
>chica in fizzy fazz, pizza pizza pizza, and fazbear theater
chica chads were eating good with help wanted 2 :^)

Something ive noticed about certain fnaf fans in certain places (rhymes with Quitter) have become a certain breed of Zealotous Game Sluts. They don't care about the actual game or its story or if its even good, all they care about is that its a new installment in the thing they like. SOTM is but another example of Fnaffans doing this, sure it isn't bad bad but its pretty bad not only in terms of its gameplay but its story. it only holds up because it gets compared to like Fnaf3 and SL. Which is another thing, SOTM super fans seem to only be able to praise it by demeaning the past games that made the series what it is, calling the Night gameplay Sit and Survive slop and boring, but somehow SOTM being a Poppy Playtime clone isn't derivative slop?

I have to imagine these Zealots come after Help Wanted and only like Fnaf because it was popular for a while and therefore their "favorite thing" while not giving a shit about its history or legacy outside
>New GOOD, Old Bad
Anything New is Sacred, anything Old can be forgotten or changed. Its a weird dynamic I have never seen in any fandom but Fnaf

Security Breach is like a really sweet and creative cake with many flavours for everyone to enjoy. While it falls apart, you can still have a good time eating it.

Secret of the Mimic feels like a cake tastes only like chocolate and is so hard to even slice it. It's made for a specific type of person and that's why nobody is talking about it. People during Sister Location had more to say about it.

>>527734949
Scott could deliver a game thats a buggy mess, completely unplayable, has abysmal lore, abysmal atmosphere and scares, and could barely be called a fnaf game let alone a game and people would still eat it up becauses its another Brand New and Improved fnaf game!

Wait he did do that it was called Secruity Breach

>>527726702
The way they explained it in game, Vannie dragging people down there to feed him. That was her whole purpose
now that I think of it, does vannie and glitchtrap even serve a point without Burntrap? What was the endgoal of that now

>>527734949
THANK YOU, FINALLY SOMEONE GETS ME. Newer FNAF fans are so retarded it's insane. New good, old bad. What can you do when they only joined for the "har har har" memes and were into Bendy, Poppy or Hello Neighbour beforehand.

What irritates me is that, because normal people are so done with FNAF and Scott's bullshit, only the superfans remain. And if you have an opposing opinion, those mfs will rip you to shreds.

I've complained about Deltarune chapters 3 and 4 online, people are so civil and accepting and aren't mindless consoomer sheep.

With FNAF fans, it's different. Combine the fact that they're lonely, the fact that they invested so much time and money into the franchise, combine that with the Sunk Cost Fallacy and the weird para social relationship Scott and the content creators have knowingly created and boom. You have the most insane retarded fandom that rivals Nintendo fanboys.

TL; DR: FNAF fans have an insane amount of copium and it's sad.

>>527734949
>>527735587
Nice Reddit spacing there, mister.

>>527734949
>>527735587
>be Scott
>make fnaf 3 to conclude the trilogy
>fans said it's not scary
>tone up difficulty in fnaf 4
>fans said the story is overcomplicated
>make silly rpg heavy lore game with fnaf world
>fans said what the fuck with this goofy ass game
>spoonfeeding the whole fanbase with sister location
>fans said the story makes no sense anymore
>make up his mistake with FFPS
>fans try to cancel him for being political
There is no win against you niggers

>>527735974
FFPS was such the perfect time to end the series and was the perfect conclusion that you had to mention a completely unrelated event, that says so much

Here's my hottake. The overarching "plot" of fnaf has always sucked the real appeal is the world and characters that inhabit the "story" and messing around with them. It's a lot like capeshit (superhero comics) in a way. A lot of stuff gets reconned and new shit gets added with tons of spin off media that may or may not influence the main content. But none of that matters because the fans treat the world/characters like a kid plays with toys and headcannon their own shit.

Why big top's chase music sounds a lot like ballora's music box?

>>527736259
They're both probably based off the same song. But I don't know about old music so I couldn't tell you which.

>>527736191
Should have stopped at fnaf 3 before the story changed from crazy security guard furry serial killer to dr. Frankenstein.

>>527736257
Yeah, that's basically it. But see, in the past that worked better because there was so little the games offered, so it was fun and easy to imagine your own scenario. Kinda like how Minecraft is atm. That's why there were so many song and meme animations back in the day.

Which makes me think, after 2020, FNAF animations became so boring. It's literally just Coda the faggot and a bunch of nobodies making montages of the animatronics opening their mouths and doing floaty movements. Even FNAF animations are ruined bro TT

>>527735974
It's not our fault when Scott tries to fix one thing, he breaks another, you fucking wigger.

>>527736191
If FNAF ended at 6, the series would have been respected and still taken seriously. Freddy Fazbear would have had a statue in Washington DC.

Lore Bore

>>527726702
Mimic wants to be Willy
Willy famously had flesh over his bones.
So Mimic adds meat to his skeleton

>>527713625
If the Vietnam theory is true, it would also hint at Willy being somewhat old as the 90's rolled around, and definitely elder into 2025

>>527740510
so is foxy being in the theatre show proof that mcm created him?

kill all meatbags

White guy jumpscare

>>527708565
>is a sociopath, but functions in society
>CC dies
>Willy gets mad he suffers while Henry doesn't and while drunk kills Hen's kid
>after tasting blood he just likes it now

scott should make a clickteam style game set in the 2000s to show us what michael was up to all that time between fnaf 1 and fnaf 3

>>527695990
I think he's just a cute little guy... I'd take good care of him and be his friend.

So I'm not sure about that, but which ending is undoubtedly canon?

>>527742853
Pretty sure it's the one where Mimic crashes the van to confiscate the data diver

>>527743258
Why does he do that though

>>527742853
The one where everything blows up

>>527742853
I like to think it's the Moon.exe one. You read the Mimic a bedtime story to soothe him down, so Arnold is able to retrieve him to FazEnt.

>>527744219
As much as I'd like to believe that, the fact that you have to do a New Game+ to even get that ending is probably one of multiple pieces of proof that it's not canon.

>>527741643
desert bus

>>527744795
yeah true I guess, but maybe you could excuse that as game mechanics or something, idk... I'm probably just coping because I want Arnold to live, and seeing the Mimic have at least one moment of comfort makes me feel better.

How far along can I get with making a Clickteam game if I basically know everything there is about 3dfagging but have very little hours of experience learning programming anything beyond UE blueprint walking simulators and Hammer maps?

has that mystic hippo thing behind bigtop been opened yet

>>527721141
In World, the security guards were being compared to Night Owls, since they’d stay up all throughout the night. In SOTM, David is a restless spirit, and the secret ending involves finally putting him to bed.

>>527749038
What are those teletubbies looking ass anyway?

>>527749103
in-universe, they might have been a sleep aid for kids given they turn up around Moon but Moons out of place in the basement, so eh? for us as loretards they're probably a future hook for fuckin, david or henry or whatevers in the white tiger getup

>>527749251
Some poor fucker got locked down in the basement with no food.

>>527749418
Yeah rip to bob, what a real one. I see people say that he's a zombie or whatever in the moon suit but I think that's silly.

>>527749535
The suit meant for human performers, so it’s possible.

>>527749748
I get the premise, I just find the idea of a zombie down there silly but I also don't think Remnant exists in gamelore.

>My name is Edwin
>I made everything
>It was difficult to put my sci fi tech together

>>527749914
But the Scooper blueprints from PS has a Remanent Injector as one of its parts.

>>527750149
I'd buy it if it mentioned Remnant in the details themselves but all the marks (ABCD.) have capitalisations. I just think that's intentional

>>527740769
His teeth are so white. What's his dental hygiene regimen?

>>527734949
>SOTM is but another example of Fnaffans doing this, sure it isn't bad bad but its pretty bad not only in terms of its gameplay but its story.
How is the gameplay and story bad?
I love SOTM and most of the originals (FNAF 3 and SL I am mixed on). SB and Special Delivery are the only games I would consider putting in the 'bad' category.

>>527752761
Americans pay to have their teeth straightened and whitened

>>527754272
Considering Afton bought Edwin out, we now know William is loaded.

I find it kinda sad, thinking about it, that when Mimic initally goes back to mimicking David in the secret ending, he's acting anxious and scared. Like there's a subconscious worry that he'll get beat up again.

>>527755145
Good thing that's not the canon ending. Only way I can see that being canon is because it's easier for Fazbear Entertainment to snatch that lil guy up because he's docile now. But we know M2 is hostile in Ruin so parachute exe is the canon ending.

>>527749103
They’re like Glo Glow Worms

>>527745885
3Dfagging? I swear, 4channers need to be euthanized. Do y'all come up with these words yourselves?

>>527755926
It's possible that M2 gets horribly mistreated at Fazbear Ent when they retrieve him, causing him to snap back into hostility.

>>527663025
>SL killed the series
Kino

>>527666618
Maybe he could have had made something that looks like Dolly

>>527739923
Franchise probably would have had a better lasting legacy had it ended at FFPS

I LOVE FNAF!!!

>>527749038
MY NAME IS EDWIN
I'M DIRECTLY OR INDIRECTLY RESPONSIBLE FOR EVERYTHING

So did David actually get hit by a car?

>>527702887
Fazbear Ent. Is simply made of cheap bastards from Utah

https://x.com/SalemsIncident/status/1934819099349275016
It's so funny that when Caseoh and many other oldfags moaned about the state of the current games are too different from the resource management/survival type of gameplay that puts the franchise on the map, newfags babies just straight up shitting on the old games instead kek

>>527758090
>It's possible that M2 gets horribly mistreated at Fazbear Ent
I mean, that’s exactly what you could perfectly expect from FazEnt, who aren’t well known for their work ethics even when it comes to humans, not to mention robots.

>>527715667
>Be Afton
>Have a life long penis insecurity
>After years of mental anguish he finally snaps

>>527762252
We just don't know. The best you can get is from moon.exe where Sun (M1) ate Baby Owl (David) and skinned its face for a mask.

>>527702124
It undermines all of the story theme by making Fazbear as this ultimate evil megacorp even from the very beginning, instead of the "Afton making shit worse every minute for this decently successful restaurant" kind of vibe.
In the old lore, the "evilness" of Fazbear management can still be reasonably explained by the extreme cost cutting measure and boneheaded decision with the springlock suit, or just pure desperation to stay open by actively covering up death caused by their only appeal in the business, the animatronics, who coincidentally also became murderous as all hell at night (which also caused by Afton in the first place). Even in SL, where the mystique of the old plot starting to fade away, the company still questioned Baby's totally-not-child-kidnappping-robot design straight to Afton's face.

>>527722167
I hate to be that guy but link or you asspulled it

>>527764973
I think you can still have the downfall of Fazbear be on their safety issues, but you can now have the corporate explanation of covering up deaths and shit be that they're one of those 'family businesses' that are growing too fast to keep up and don't give a shit at the costs. Afton obviously just wants power at the start, and when he realizes killing kids can make you immortal he just goes for it. I like it more than the tragic villain thing people try to go with him wanting to bring back his son.

>>527764973
>the "evilness" of Fazbear management can still be reasonably explained by the extreme cost cutting measure and boneheaded decisio
>Even in SL, where the mystique of the old plot starting to fade away, the company still questioned Baby's totally-not-child-kidnappping-robot design straight to Afton's face.
>meanwhile have a whole military bunker filled with sleek and shiny futuristic terminators up and running on contrary to simple roundabout mascot costumes

There is no away Afton didn't find F10-N4 after he bought the building
It's actually really possible everything is a mimic if Afton decided to use her
>F10-N4 uses Dispatch's voice for most of the game
>In SL Hand Unit also uses Dispatch's voice

We still getting raided by Discord

>>527765139
he's talking about the music of fnaf world

>>527766043
Is my mom also a mimic?

>>527766279
David?

>>527766237
>FNAF World 2 could be real
He's gonna retcon the entire thing to be about David instead of the Crying Child, isn't he?

>>527745885
If your skilled enough for 3D modelling game dev fagging should be easy to learn. You just need to watch countless tutorials first or else you will feel lost trying to figure out what all the vague and not so intuitive buttons do in the console yourself.

>>527766489
Based, I would love to see a Desolation Hope remake and retrofitted into FNAF

>>527766489
David is the new God victim

I'm half just sighing deeply about all the lore implications this game gives us and how it changes so many notions, just asking... why, Scott?
But I'm also half excited to see where this is going, although I don't know if it's a "fan seeing their favorite thing" excited or "seeing a car crash in motion" excited

>>527767074
For me I am just happy to see more official Roxy content. Dolly and the others were pretty cool too

>>527767225
I am sure fusion feels the same because whenever he's being chased he's always looking at the *tronics

guys guys
Fiona is the one that made the elevator fall in Ruin

>>527767435
So greg is dead confirmed?

>>527750339
Edwin seems to have brought back Fiona through Remnant too. Remnant is the product of strong memories, and when given a proper vessel, it can even bring back the dead. Also, the AR game has you collecting Remnant as the upgrade resource.

>>527755145
He’s going to have the confront the fact that he’s killed a lot of people, including his father. It’s far from a happy ending.

So the new lore as I understand it is:
>Fazbears was always a greedy evil company run by Afton on the business side, Henry and him designing a good chunk of the tech used
>Once big enough through merchandise and Fredbear's, they commission MCM to make things for them and Afton begins poaching employees from Murray pretty soon after
>Afton was always evil and didn't 'turn' from being jealous of Henry or Crying Child dying
>Chica's Party World was always a separate business entity that also did work with MCM - most likely being bought by Fazbear after going bankrupt
>Fazbears ends up bankrupting the company and then buys them out just to own all of their characters and tech to use in future locations
>Fiona designed the FNAF1 looks, Henry designed the Unwithereds and Springlocks used at Fredbear's (Murray made better ones but they never got used given the fire)
It seems like the idea is that Fazbear's ripped off a lot of the stuff from Murray's before and after buying them out, but also that Henry and William still did stuff on their own. It just feels weird to have so much be done by Murray that it feels more like they want to discount the original two's work from the series.

>>527767636
no, you can hear an interference during his speech
she took control at that moment

>>527742674
>he's just a cute little guy
woman detected

>>527757868
>being this new

>>527752761
no soda + brushing twice daily

>>527757868
>>527768665
>Being this reddit

>>527768512
women are evil narcissists tho

>>527731442
>The Puppet was Fazbear's attempt at recreating Jackie after recovering her from the fire
>William used Dollie's schematics as basis for the Funtimes
>Mangle is another version of Foxy, an MCM original character
>Bonnie is the favorite character of William, the man who ruined Edwin's life
>The 02 Endos are the most visually similar endos to the Mimic's original design
It's all coming up Murray

>>527731442
>edwin and the puppet
He has Puppet schematics on the computer at the house. You can't look at them but they're there.

https://x.com/PeanutMacabre/status/1934892230806020464

Women don't like fnaf, and there are no women in /5n@f/ general (aside from """"women"""" aka trannies, that is).

>>527771623
true, women only care about springdaddy

>>527771623
every tranny i met has either been a man with a double chin and make up on or a scrawny man wearing a stepford dress

>>527771623
good, no foids allowed

MXES is NOT Fiona, it's virtual manifestation of the Cradle.Exe program Edwin made

I could literally unironically fix him, no cap.

>>527767978
>Afton was always evil
this isn't new lore btw, only headcanon ever asserted afton "became" evil
>Murray made better ones but they never got used given the fire
they aren't better, literally every audio or mail about them in the game is saying they're dangerous as ever

>>527772539
So the ship is still up? Or is it now more like, sibling incest?

>>527771623
>there are no women in /5n@f/ general
Lies, I knew of at least two in the past.

>>527647328
Foxy's Puppet Show was stupid. Why in the grand year of 2025 did that not have checkpoints between the segments? And why did you have to sit through all the dialogue in the beginning again if you failed?

>>527773819
I didn't know you can fail that part
do you have to have the aim of a cripple?

>>527650457
Also, as her chase segment progressed, her face got more and more damaged and started to resemble the puppet/marionette's face.

It all went to hell after Scott stopped making games
The only good non-Scott game, good not great, is Into the Pit

>>527771623
>5n@f is ten percent lorefags
>Twenty percent furfags
>Fifteen percent concentrated power of autism
>Five percent tranny
>Fifty percent cringe
>And a hundred percent demographically compromised of men

>>527666271
That design was pretty goofy, and not even being in the dark made it scary. Eyes so large they looked like an anime character going insane (which looks equally as stupid)

And the shape of its body? With too-long arms and too-short legs? Why was that thing there at all

>>527776041
Please understand disney developers
>Also how else would he be David's favorite toy

>>527773456
Yeah and they were all fat dramawhores

>>527776041
It was meant to be The Mimic's literal fursona, but I don't get at all what its purpose supposed to be now.

tiger rock scared me. i admit it

how did I miss this when I am pretty sure I was awake 18 hours ago

>>527776893
Because fusion already uploaded the entire thing in 2 days.
Even Dawko was trying to play catch up.
On the other hand it appears Fusion didnt milk his hacking series as much as he could

Baby Mimic is the cutest thing in the entire franchise so far, and literally no one can prove me wrong whatsoever.

>>527777585
>Baby Mimic is literally just a variant of Fnaf worlds endo plush

>>527778168
we don't talk about "Fn*f W*rld" here

>>527699398
I'm taking away your ellipses privileges

>>527708956
>>527721141
>>527735974
>>527766237
>>527766489
>>527778335
basedboy newfag. Get your we dont talk about miguel sounding ass out of here

Tiger is my favorite design since classic Freddy

>Pucci: Do you believe in slop?
>Gravity turns over to the side
>The Mimic use your Clown Attack only once to permanently get rid of FuhNaff
>This is it I found the summit of the slop hill
>My Stand is Made By Edwin creator of everything
>I will use it to undo every single pesky theory plaguing five nights at slop

>>527774170
Maybe it's because we were on controller instead of using a mouse. It took maybe 4-5 tries. And the losses always came around the octopus part, so yeah it was a lot to sit through multiple times.

>>527734949
"Old good new bad" fags are worse

>>527740769
I wasn't expecting him to have a whole bunch of lines just for Nicholas Cage. Are he and Lillard friends or something?

>movie Afton skin has specific lines for Nicolas Cage
Hell yeah

>>527783302
I liked the "Horrid little beasts" reference and delivery, but I'm a little sad that we didn't get any SYMMETRY

My name is Edwin.
I made bad choices.
It was difficult to keep the company (or my family) together.

this should be easy to understand
THE MIMIC
>The Mimic
>Jackie
>Big Top
>Dollie
>Chica
>The prototype suit it cobbles together
NOT THE MIMIC
>Tiger Rock
>The Moon

>>527784308
>The Moon
if not the mimic, it is a seperate endo
>still makes metal endo sounds
>the guy the are claming became a zombie cleary was sealed away because moon was already down there

Is M2 the only villain or us F10-N4 also the villain of a this saga?

>>527784857
fiona did nothing wrong

>>527784308
>Big Top
i get that's supposed to be the answer and you're right but at the same time how could the mimic even take control of him specifically given his size and all

>>527784001
Edwin? More like Edlose!

>>527785148
There is a chance she is one really responsible for trying to turn Gregory into AnotherDavid

>>527785357
tdreads pls go

>>527785215
he can shapeshift

the yellow rabbit's voicelines https://youtu.be/J_u9E-pTWY0?si=LbGQsPmi1XnB0jqE

>>527785357
What is this "AnotherDavid" theory I keep hearing about?

>>527785604
To that degree?

>>527785357
I'll pay you 100 Fazbucks to fuck off.

>>527786504
The theory was that The Mimic was trying to recreate David in some way shape or form, Gregory being his attempt, that is why it's "AnotherDavid", because Gregory would've been an attempt at becoming another David
At least that was the pre-SOTM version, it's possible that the Mimic who is trying to do that is Fiona now, as an attempt to get her family back

>>527740769
shaggy from scooby doo

she lingers

>>527785314

>>527789764
is this kid supposed to be the teachers kid

Will the next game be a direct continuation of Ruin/Security Breach or are we gonna do more stuff in the past maybe a game with William and Henry?

>>527789747
Fuck off with your furshit

>>527790713
roxy is cringe her instrument is an abomination

the shot where the mimic leave Dollie's body is so cool

>>527792015
disgusting wretched contraptions... they ruin the whole thing!

>>527792053
>streaming game to friends
>scene happens
>yelled "IT'S THE MIMIC"
>nobody cares but me

>>527792390
this is why you should be friends with autists

>>527792626
>implying the rest of the call wasn't autists
Everyone else was either playing Deltarune or watching Fishtank.

>>527790713
there is a decent enough chance that SOTM gets a DLC that would include some William and Henry stuff, i mean they still need to give an explanation as to where the fuck the Mimic was in the 50+ years between SOTM and SB
but i would like for them to get on with continuing Ruins story, the cliffhanger has been raging for far too long

>>527794074
he's been fucked off and trying to integrate himself with the rest of himself on the data diver without reverting to david? or making more mimics (it's the second one. every fucking endo is a mimic.)

>>527789747
blergh

>>527792015
the virgin korg vs the chad stratocaster

>>527794315
>making more mimics
how do mimics make more mimics? Via copulation?

>FNAF in the future, SB
>FNAF in the present, Pizzeria Simulator
>FNAF in the past, FNAF 2, SOTM
Where do we go from here? I want to see them go fully wacky with it, I want a FNAF game set the medieval era, or WW2 or feudal Japan.

>>527795221
don't be silly

I would be fine if SOTM is the last game before WW3

>>527796232
Don’t jinx it. I wanna go to HHN but I need to fly there.

>>527796232
Roughly one third of the worlds countries have technically been in a war since 2010

>>527795221
>fnaf 1776 - william afton's redcoat ancestor stuffs american soldiers into costumes at the local theatre

can someone explain what all those little dude are that come running out when edwin's house is destroyed

>>527797654
failed mimics

>>527797849
that's what edwin means when he says he can't make any more m2's?
why do they... look like that?

>>527776389
reps David's soul and now predates the puppet as the first possessed mascot kid spirit in the game. I think this might also imply david was murdered, probably a plot hook for DLC sequel

>>527794074
There will be no DLCs. SB was the exception because they had to fix the miscommunication created between Scott and SW due to covid with Ruin

>>527798069
sounds like some next level asspull

>>527798149
welcome to sequels

>>527797971
he shoved them into any and everything, I guess. from bins to lights.

>>527798564
New Bread