Thread 528853264

death of IL2 edition

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A thread for all vehicle simulation games: racing sims, flight sims, train sims, submarine sims, tank sims, anything else sims which do not have enough traffic to sustain their own independent generals.

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>Example of welcome sims
Falcon BMS, DCS World, Rise of Flight, IL-2, Combat Helo, Microsoft Flight Simulator, X-Plane, Euro truck sim, Assetto Corsa, rFactor 2, Live for Speed, SAM Simulator, Steel Beasts Pro, Steel Armor: Blaze of War, Steel Fury: Kharkov 1942, Enemy Engaged: Comanche vs Hokum, Silent Hunter, Dangerous Waters, Train Simulator, Farming Simulator 201X, OMSI 2, DiRT: Rally, Ship Simulator, NoLimits2

>Example of non-welcome games:
Arm*, Ac* C*mbat, W*r Th*nder, W*rld of _____, The S*ms, S*m C*ty, G*at S*mulat*r

First for violent flight sim supremacy

>>528861767
>IRIAF livery
Based.

>>528867189
funny but incorrect. If anything the US notifying the iranians beforehand is a underhanded tactic to force them to not retaliate too heavily on Israel (as we have seen just a few rockets and even less than the previous days) and to also have return the "courtesy" for the US base attacks so that the US won't have to do something to save face in case someone died.
The only one happy here is the fake concept of Israel.

>>528856172
Meanwhile Tomcats:
>Coachman, fly me within Phoenix launch range of those knaves! And none of that pilot tomfoolery, the AWG-9 requires a steady grip! Not that a lower breed like you man know!
>As you command, sire!

For far are we from the first full-blown cunny noseart?

My guess is it's going to be the French.

>>528875982
Surely the Japs already have plenty of anime noseart

Steam Summer Sale later, I imagine MSFS 2024 will be on sale slightly, for anyone that's thinking about getting it, it's not quite there yet, SU3 is supposedly out next month which will help, so I'm not going to recommend it but it's not a complete shitshow like it was on launch. DCS and all the addons will be on sale too bar maybe the most recent releases.

WW2 Marianas map is fucking super comfy for fucking around in a helicopter.

Back to the beaver

>>528902754
Fortunately the autopilot works again thanks to the patch, you could say I'm lazy as it's only a 30 minute flight but I want to look out the window.

>>528903386
Also I can sit in the back and let the plane fly itself

>>528902754
i love eating beavers.

I think it's nice that the pattern entry is plotted as part of the route in the game.

>>528907668
isn't that a real life function in the newer garmins?

>>528907780
I'm sure but this is just the in-game EFB/tablet doing it, I don't remember 2020 doing it, maybe did and I can't remember.

Does MSFS2024 have more photogrammetry cities compared to 2020? I want to do the firefighting missions but I can't justify buying it at full price just for those.

>>528908095
Landing was a bit better, maybe a bit too aggressive on the flare, looks like I might have landed on the tail first.
>>528909670
Yes apparently they doubled the amount in 2024

>>528907668
>overhead join
too British for me

>>528909670
>I want to do the firefighting missions
There's a bunch of addons for 2020 that do that

>>528913392
you don't have physics based water drops tho. it ruins the immersion seeing the water you dropped turn with you and fly away

>>528913206
Well if you wanted to check the windsock and see which runway is active I suppose you would overfly and turn back onto crosswind regardless of the UK/US system.

>MSFS 2024 isn't on sale
>2020 on sale but still £30
>not all of the DCS DLC is on sale either, some of the discounts are shit
Not a good sale for /simg/ sadly

bump

>>528927282
You must have at least 1000 hours in that plane now, you should just join the Red Meatballs or whatever the aerobatics team is called.

>>528929173
around 600h in msfs and almost 200 in xplane. I even bought myself a 500h T-346 patch from a supplier that makes them for our AF but it's not here yet.
>Red Meatballs aerobatics team
Never heard of them, but I'm not suited to those things. I still remember when I got roped into one of those RP servers for Arma 2 in High School. Never again.

We're getting three states this year lads

>>528930547
I was taking the piss I couldn't remember the name of the Frecce Tricolori. There's a virtual team for them though, you should absolutely join them
https://www.youtube.com/@VirtualFrecceTricolori/videos
https://forum.dcs.world/profile/66957-freccetricolorivirtuali/

>>528930716
Oh yeah lmao. Nah they're way too serious, with IRL meetings, ex FT pilots etc. I just like to fly for fun.

>>528931012
Fair enough that does sound a bit too much, would be a good learning experience though

>>528931763
for sure, I used to watch their training livestreams in the past and it was interesting hearing the proper parameters for the various aerobatics etc.

It will be officially announced in a couple of weeks, but the HB Eurofighter for DCS is canceled.

>>528903851
Based backseat enjoyer.

Bump

Slowly getting the hang of this thing, first semi-successful flight but I forgot some passenger comfort things so we banked quite aggressively in the beginning, I guess I won't be getting a raise anytime soon, fuck.

>>528890118
Maybe Sale? Fucking Syke! 2024

>>528946651
They were airing an episode of Murder, she wrote on tv today and there was a really cool scene of a Starship flying.

>>528934970
Btw, im not joking

>>528949728
This is no starship, this is just a C750

>>528949964
My bad

>>528930572
Nice

I picked up uboat in the recent sale and it is in fact fun. Playing with most stuff simulated but I'm going to try and learn all the jobs manually.

>>528906707
Based an Monument Valley pilled.

>>528946651
What the fuck are the passengers going to do, get out of the airplane and walk? You got their money, relax.

>>528907668
>>528907780
this is not correct (in my opinion) and subject to debate within the FAA and aviation community
>https://vintagespartanaircraft.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/04/Presentation-Notes-Flight-Operations-at-Non-Towered-Airports.pdf

>>528907668
Canadian's are weird they join the pattern from the dead side

The king air is such a chill aircraft. Quick to startup too and get going.

Bumper

>>528929173
just arrived

>>529001571
I'm trans btw, but they didn't have it in blue-pink-white colors.

The good old C172 (G1000) is always fun, no matter what.

>>529001571
are you going to put it on a flight suit? A friend of mine has a genuine one he puts on before simming.

>>529005124
No, I'll put it on my track IR hat.

>>529005124
I wear a flightsuit most days.

>>529003885
You know what they say, every accusation is a confession.

>>529007817
Well you just accused me of confessing to being a tranny.

>>529007946
What?

>>528946651
>aggressive bank
That’s ok, every time I fly the 727 I forget to change the air pressurization from ground to air until I pass 10,000’ and get a warning bell. Not quite hypoxia territory but hopefully I’m carrying a flight full of mountain climbers.

>FlightFX C750 set for takeoff on July 10
I mentioned this was coming out soon the other day, it's surprisingly cheap too at $30. I'm not sure it's true study level but it's supposedly very detailed.

>>529001571
Nice!
>>529005124
>not wearing a full on g suit when simming

>>529004386
>G1000
ngmi

>>529009462
Also fuck me the A2A Aerostar is coming out next month
>early access
I'll wait

>just flight and PMDG both working on a 747 classic
>no updates on either in 7 months
pain

>>529010776
There's a 737-500 Classic by a dev called CSS which is due to come out soon. It's very expensive though and has a weird subscription model which seems very dodgy.

>>529009636
What? I've flown too many hours with steam gauges and G530, G1000 is a nice change.

>>529008303
Damn dude, just add it to your checklists if you use one? Is it somehow easy to miss on the 727, I've never even tried the big jets I just fly GA and now this C750.

>>529008303
I used to do that in the King Air, just add it to the checklist like the other anon said

>>529007946
no, he just pointed out your self projection. that's not an accusation

>>529009462
Damn, too bad I only own X-Plane. It even has an auto-throttle and IRS.

>>529014097
Yeah the X Plane one sounds good enough. I think I might get the C750 for MSFS honestly, I wanted the BAE 146, RJ, or the F28 but they're in development for 2024 and I have an airlinery itch to scratch.

>>529018584
>the X Plane one sounds good enough
I'm not so sure about that anymore. I've flown ~8 hours with it now in total and the AP has done some funky stuff while descending to STAR's or while descending from STAR to IAF, but that might just be my incompetence I'm not sure yet. Basically it started climbing insidiously even though I had like 40% throttle and had set AP to FLC with a sensible airspeed, so I ended up way too high instead of the target altitude which obviously was lower than where I started descending... My bad obviously because I was distracted and didn't monitor altitude as I should've and I did assume it would descend because it did so at first before I got distracted. I've only had these hickups during approaches, departures (SID's, while adhering to all restrictions) have worked just fine in FLC mode. Also I was cruising at mach ~0.6 and the thing was level until it randomly started oscillating, causing +1000 - -1000 alterations in vertical speeds in a sine wave pattern, until I adjusted the throttle back just a tiny amount.

>>529019376
I think in these sorts of planes if you're going to get bugs and quirks it's normally going to be with the FMC/autopilot. I swear I've seen oscillation like that before somewhere, that sounds like a proper bug.

>>529019564
I recall triggering similar oscillation patterns 8 years ago on my engineering PID controller course when I was simulating a submarine in matlab. Now, I don't know anything too technical about aircraft, but I'd assume the AP would use something like a PID controller, right?

>>529020080
Fucking hell you're right I think I saw it in Stormworks with a PID, and had to adjust one of the values, I can't remember which one, proportional maybe or derivative to stop it overshooting. I don't know much about the autopilots but you can make an autopilot PID where the target value is the set altitude and then adjust the elevator according the current altitude, the P, I, and D values will determine how strongly it responds and compensates.

>>529020278
Also it might just be an MSFS-specific thing, but weather injection can cause strange behaviour with autopilots too.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hEZSjw5-mLE
>City Update 11: Northeastern United States 2

>>529021120
boring

>>529021120
I've been looking forward to this for so long
New England kinda looked like shit

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kq1-O3d4i2c
(another) PA 28 too. Highly doubt it'll compete with the Just Flight Arrow or Warrior, but the Dakota falls in the middle performance wise iirc and looks pretty nice for a free plane (for '24 users).

>>529026582
I've got the Arrow and turbo Arrow and they#re great planes, I'll doubt I'll be flying the Dakota but it's nice to have another free plane, it'll be Carenado so looks nice but is very basic albeitever.

>>529010993
>$5/mo
>$50/yr
>One Hundred and Twenty fucking dollars outright
wtf? no thanks

>>529011602
>>529012125
It's tucked away in the middle of the FE panel, so not exactly in line of sight from the pilot's seat. Definitely need to add it to a checklist.

What are uboat tactics? I've started to encounter more convoys and I'm mainly sitting quiet in a spot where I think the escorts won't spot me, then launching every torpedo I can and crash diving. I've had better luck staying silent than running but sometimes they ping me and I need to run.

>>529021120
>one NJ mention
>sea bright
NJ bros.... We're officially less relevant than fucking Allentown. Are they going to feature Jim Thorpe on the next one?

>>529030481
Nah you're getting more than that

>>529031064
The only parts of the state I actually like are Northwest and South so it's still over for my region. Maybe some day.

What's the perfect middle ground between gen 4 "AMRAAM spam before turning cold to outrun the incoming AMRAAM-spam" and gen 3 "missile won't track from two miles, then stall into the ground because you pulled two hard trying to get back on the six on the other nigga again"?

Is it gonna be pic?

>>529031064
WTF?! who thought it was a good idea to dedicate resources to this?

>>529033132
him
>>529031895

>>529031064
>newark
It'll be like the beginning of Day of the Dead

>>529033228
He didn't even get what he wanted either.

>>529033428
>Asobo I want New Jersey
>We have New Jersey at home
>>529033348

>>529033132
>we are proud to announce a new city
>Camden, New Jersey
Could make for some kino firefighting where the city gets burned down (again)

>>529033514
>We have New Jersey at home
Too be fair, when people in the U.S. think of New Jersey they're probably thinking of some nightmarish hellscape like Newark, Camden, or Trenton.

>>529034412
I'm a Brit and couldn't name a single place, all I know about the state is this bloke

>>529034572
Northeast is a giant hellish megasuburb of NYC, Northwest is Appalachian hills-lite, and South is a mixture of forests and farmlands. It is the mostly densely populate state in the U.S. despite half the state being woods. That should give you an idea of what the northeast is like. Pic related is South.

>>529034961
The northeast does look grim, just an endless sprawl of buildings. I haven't flown much around New York but it looks a bit better I think, the roads were really strange before and they seem to have been cleaned up.

>>529009905
Does this model have any anti-icing/de-icing?

>>529043182
I don't know, I don't know what variants they'll be doing or what the options will be

>>529001571
how do you find patches? I want F-22 patches

>>529048351
google nigga

>>529048893
What now?

>>529035820
>The northeast does look grim,
It's a bit of give and take. It's been inhabited by Europeans for a while so you'll find some of the most historically significant buildings in the United States. There's also endless stretches of shitty looking crumbling ghettos. South Jersey is pretty cool. Lots of ruins in the woods and the Pine Barrens are a very unique ecosystem. No hills though so some people may find it boring. Also filled with tickets and chiggers. Really I'm glad to see any areas improved.

>>529048351
I either trade/buy at airshows, ask people from that squadron or search on ebay. You americans have a shitton of airshows, I'm sure there must be some for sale by the squadron dispatch during those events.

>>529049135
Now you take your ADHD meds, smartass.

>>529052462
How many times a day do you say
>ay I'm walkin ere!

>>529055789
>strong independent black people on a military patch
gay and nafo pilled

>>529057347
It's the flag of Sardinia and they're moors iirc

>>529056140
The wops are North Jersey. I have met people who sound like a sopranos caricature there. South Jersey was largely families from the British Isles. I've read a lot of local history for my area and I know members of every family mentioned in those books. We've been overrun in the last 10-15 years though.

>>529057347
It's literally 4 blindfolded and beheaded moors/negroes to symbolize defeating them.

>>529059726
>>529057347
Forgot flag

>>529059985
>>529059726
American blacks use the moor's head as "proof" that blacks originally inhabited Europe.

Bundle of sticks

>>529074459
What beautiful mounds

>>529074459
fagot

Roadcraft update (few more cars) delayed to July by the way

>>529107394
Roadcraft/DCS crossover would be fun.

lel

>>529120967
he doesn't look chinese

>>529130621
>expansion pack
Makes me feel like this will be paid.
As someone who bought the freighter day 1, I was a little irked that I only got 2 bucks knocked off the full price of the pax variant when that launched. Now to pay again for a marginal equpiment upgrade?
I know the 727 is being produced by a completely different team than the E-jets (probably should have rebranded the studio desu) but this is starting to feel like instead of the early access model they just took the nickle and dime route.

Why is IL-2 dying? I just finally bought Normandy and some planes.

CONDUCTOR WE HAVE A PROBLEM

>>529132863
People get corrupted by War Chunder

>T-33 is on sale
Fucks sake I might have to get it.

>>529133450
>on Korean airline
>want to have 3 drinks to try and sleep, knowing that I can never fall asleep on planes otherwise
>stewardess walks up and says "we're worried about you" after the second drink
>sleep 30 minutes over the 12 hour flight

>>529133450
fucking lmao
what is this?

>>529139492
A new update for the inibuilds A350 apparently adds emergency scenarios in

>*sneeze*
>AIIIIIIEEEEEEE

>>529140359
Me playing truck sim due to the tiny scale
>blink
>you're already off the road and about to drive into a building

https://msfsaddons.com/2025/06/28/contrail-steps-into-aircraft-development-with-the-falcon-50-for-microsoft-flight-simulator/
More bizjet kino in development

>>529137001
I bought it, it's an old plane but I believe it's fast so this should be interesting.

>>529146042
Never thought we’d see a Falcon 50 that’s fucking sick

>>529147228
Nice cockpit, fuses aren't functional though, shit plane 0/10

>>529147228
>>529148737
old trainers are peak simming kino

>>529150736
They are, the sound of this engine is fucking terrifying I'm going to die doing a few circuits. Unfortunately there are some bugs which I think are SU3 beta related, the first is the canopy doesn't show in the external view so it looks like a convertible, the other is the radio doesn't seem to be working.

>>529151837
My god I got the shakes taking off in this, the noise is fucking mental, it sounds like it's about to blow up.

>>529152192
Scariest plane I've ever flown and hard as hell to land. Also it's about 1000C in my room which doesn't help.

>>529153668
It's too hot to sim, I'll fly it again another day

I just like it, bros

>>529153668
I love me some steam gauges.

>>529159792
Don't we all, the reflections on these are a bit strange and make them harder to read but that might be realistic, I've no idea. it has a really strange fuel system which is interesting, there's a main central tank as well as wing, leading edge, and tip tanks which they all feed into the central tank. There is no automatic transfer, you have to manually transfer the fuel from the other tanks (though it's recommended to leave the tip transfer on) into the central tank. But you can't just leave them all on as if the central tank is fuel any transferred fuel will go out of the overflow pipe. Very strange system and I'm not sure why it wasn't automated, maybe they wanted to drill it into the trainee pilots to manage fuel.

Got F-16 in DCS. After flying only Spitty before this fucking thing flies like it's part of my body. Still sort of suck at combat though, missiles feel like cheating and are difficult to dodge even though I know on paper how...

I've never played DCS online because the game on my pc and vr setup is laggy as fuck even on single player, but I want to try at some point. Any tips on light servers and ways to not make my pc blow?

sub

>>529167207
Conn, Sonar, torpedo in the water, torpedo in the water!

Anyone ever play wolfpack? According to reviews it appears to be more autistic than other sub sims, perhaps the most autistic.

>>529168998
It looks great but I don't have any friends.

>Aerosoft and ToLiss announce Airbus A340-600 for Microsoft Flight Simulator
Knowing modern Aerosoft it'll probably be a disaster

>>528853264 (OP)
>Example of non-welcome games:
>Arm*
What if I want to talk about The Arm

Time for my one hour of simming I get to do

>>529191949
there are some dead threads on /vm/, the arm general OP has made it a full six months and /tac/ is sometimes active

>>528982093
do you guys not do this? join overhead mid downwind from the dead side if say you're arriving from that direction? I did that on my PPL XC it was neat with a pretty fully pattern I was kind of surprised it worked as well as it did.

>>529196626
Cool

>>529010776
I think JF sold their 747 classic model to PMDG. I don't think JF is working on it anymore.

It's been so fucking hot I don't even want to run my computer hard at all.

>>529168998
>perhaps the most autistic
It is top level of autism. I don't know if they've added AI crews yet but I've always wanted to have a full crew of autists. The problem is there's a pretty steep learning curve to most of it. There's even enigma machines for the radio operator, and if you have a huge group of autists you can have multiple boats crewed in multiplayer and you can attack in actual wolfpacks and coordinate realistically.

>>529198802
to add to this, if you're looking for something that is easier to play on your own but you can still get fairly autistic with check out UBOAT on steam.

>>529197602
The pic in >>529197602 isn't joining mid downwind though, it's joining crosswind
Joining mid downwind from dead side would be B in this diagram

>>529200163
>The pic in >>529197602
hurr
meant >>528982093

>>529200163
>>529200295
I would say it's actually the same maneuver except for the entry over the active side. On the >>528982093 pic it just has the added first bit crossing at 500' above and then descending to circuit altitude and turning around to effectively perform a mid downwind entry. If you take a look it depicts it as crossing midfield and joining on the mid downwind which is exactly the same maneuver. A crosswind entry would but be joining on where the crosswind would be in the pattern, that is a midfield entry.

>>529200947
mmm you're right
I let the "crosswind leg (midfield)" text in >>528982093 confuse me
I guess the only thing special about an overhead join is that they specifically tell you to cross at the departure end of the runway instead of in the middle of it

>>529199102
I do have uboat and I like it a lot. I saw wolfpack though and it looked pretty cool. I just been learning in uboat so I'm going to up the difficulty and try playing in first person.

Dead genre

>>529198802
This is you:

>>529210458
yes

>>529214745
Wouldn't have it any other way! These guys were leading the charge to bring VR to flight sims as well.

Have ED or maybe Aerges done something to the Mk82s? I was showing a mate the Mirage F1 by doing some dual seat stuff in the BE model and was showing him how hilariously OP the chad SAMP bombs are compared to the virgin Mk82s so had 82s on the wing and SAMPs on the fuselage, took off and did some truck bombing and usually the Mk82s - at least on the F1 - will basically do fuck all unless you bullseye them while the SAMP-250s - especially the 400s but was just doing something similar in size to show him - will have an area of effect outside of the explosion. Took off, dropped one of each on some parked KAMAZ trucks and there's not really much difference I don't think?

Was a turbo basic mission in MP, no splash damage script or mods, just literally a BE spawned as client and 20 trucks on the same airport we took off from.

>>529227365
yes

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hh4H274IVt0
We can make our own simulator, with blackjack and hookers

>>528853264 (OP)
Japanese Drift Master or Tokyo Xtreme Racer?

HOTAS-frens, I am looking to get my first decent HOTAS setup, I was looking at VKB and Virpil.
I want the Virpil FLNKR specifically but their website says pre-order despite people claiming its already been released. That's beside the point though, in lieu of me being too autistic to email them, are there any other grips / base combos you might recommend from VKB or Virpil?
I mainly want to play more helicopters but I went spastic and bought most of the modernshit in DCS in the sale a few months back, but have yet to play any of it.

Any recommendations on collectives / bases?

any help would be appreciated, for some reason I respect the anons of /simg/ more than the hundreds of jewtube videos I have watched on the topic.

>>529248257
>bought most of the modernshit in DCS in the sale a few months back, but have yet to play any of it.
whales gonna whale

Best budget racing wheel with force feedback?
(Is force feedback even necessary?)

>>529253240
It cost me $200 lol, how the fuck does that make me a whale?

>>529258393
>i paid 200$ for a bunch of stuff for a "free to play" game I haven't even played
You're peak "I must coooonsoooom" whale.

>>529258393
That's like a week's pay to a poorfag or thirdie, all about perspective.
You're also not loading up in a steam sale, it's not regular gaming, you aren't going to be jumping between airframes like you would with a $200 cart of shitty gatcha games, each one of these aircraft will take you potentially hundreds of hours to master individually.
Their sales are constant, cyclical, and happen at least four times a year, so there's really no FOMO with the prices. You will have barely learned the basics in a single airframe by the time everything's discounted again.
ED makes completionism really tempting for collector-brained planetism people and spend a lot of money on youtube marketing, but you don't have to fall for it every time.
If you're set on being a whale as a beginner in DCS, stick to one or two primary airframes and throw your money at terrain.

>>529260286
>throw your money at terrain
Buying anything beside syria and cold war germany is retarded.

>>529119067
what's the connection between the two? making forests into runways? airdropping materials and sand?

>>529198802
>It is top level of autism.
How's silent hunter? I know the franchise is in the ubisoft graveyard but I remember hearing there's tons of mods and other shit like that

>>529229354
Oh, fucking neat I guess. Any chances to the other Mk80 series or just a correction for the 82?

>>529229354
>>529274476
They're some solid value changes

>>529265580
Syria and CWG will run you ~$100, that's throwing money.
Everyone also eventually buys that one off-meta map that gets zero MP play but perfectly scratches their particular tism

>>529274948
>that's throwing money.
no, considering they are basically the only 2 other maps beside caucasus that have any decent campaign or are used by MP servers. Throwing away money would be buying the gulf, SA, that nordic map etc.

>>529275417
"throwing money" in this case being used as a singular article and shorthand for "slightly more than pocket change", "not nothing", or "more noticeable to your wallet than $5 steamsaleslop", not necessarily wasted funds.
if you have the money they're the two maps that are worth it, before your second or third aircraft and before meme terrains.
you're also definitely swinging your dick around when you're casually throwing $100+ at hobbies, simfag wallets are miscalibrated by this pastime and poorfags cannot cope

>>529276403
>if you have the money they're the two maps that are worth it,
which ones? SA and that nordic map are utterly useless
>muh poorfag
Bragging about wasting money is middle schooler behavior no matter if you're a billionaire or an actual poorfag.

I don't want to know how much I've spent on sims over the years.

>accidentally click career mode in MSFS 2024
>I have everything unlocked, I'm level 109, and I have 1 billion credits
I presume this is something to with the beta

It appears that the T-33 actually breaks before you black out from pulling high gs

>>529276672
Syria and CWG are worth it, but it isn't chump change.
Simming is inherently a wasteful non-poorfag hobby, it takes high-end hardware, lots of peripherals, and either a decent amount of software spend or significant piracy autism to have a good time

I wish popular servers like Contention of GS would set their time to night occasionally.
>setting illumination levels is now part of the startup routine
>remembering to turn external light on for the airfield so nobody collides into you
>remembering that MSL is not the same as AGL, and you'd better set your target area's AGL into your baro alt if you don't want to add your own aircraft into the bomb salvo
>choosing between NVG and setting your screens appropriately, or bringing a TGP
>paying attention to your dials in a pitch-black fight, so you don't lose SA and not realize you're flying inverted towards the ground when you thought you were level
So on and so forth.

Also don't show own aircraft on F-10. Instead give every airfield TACAN and RSBN.

>>529284897
the comms menu looks sick, will be so much easier to use in vr

>>529284897
DCSbros.... what now????

>>529284830
>but it isn't chump change
Anything DCS is worth only when they have 50% discounts. And it will only get worse when they'll move to a subscription service.

>>529146042
I will do a remake of Air Cocaine

>>529267874
Making targets for me to bomb. Kinda like the relationship between Civil Engineers and Mechanical Engineers.

>>529291805
>air cocaine
AKA every bizjet flight ever

What's up with the Mirage 2000 and it apparently not being for sale right now?
I've been wanting to get into DCS, did a bit of research here and there and decided I probably want that to be my first plance.

>>529294103
ED jewed (more like slav'd) Razscam, and the situation has deteriorated so much that Razbam pulled all their modules from the store, so ED can't make money off them anymore.

What you already own still works, but the whole future is uncertain.

>>529296892
Collector-Chads won. This is why you buy as many DCS modules as you can afford, as soon as you can.
Now if you'll excuse me, I need to go fly my Harrier.

>>529296892
Well that sucks...I guess that at least narrows my choice of planes now.
Is there a comprehensive list of all modules impacted anywhere?

>>529300124
nvm found it. Mirage was the only one on there I was interested in.
Man, what a shame. I like that plane.

>>529294103
The DCS sales are strange

>>529300280
Mirage F1 is a great module as well, I you are itching for flying baguette. Otherwise the F/A-18C is the flagship jet with the best value, followed closely by the F-16.

>>529296892
>>529297338
still salty.

>>529258634
I have played the game you fucking retard, I mainly play the Ka-50 and Apache, I bought all that stuff on sale but I still have mainly just played the Ka-50. I have like 600ish hours in the Ka-50 I just haven't ever wanted to play anything else until recently because my hotas setup is barely capable of helis as it stands and downright unusable for planes.
learn to read, nigger.
>>529260286
I already play DCS, like I said above. I just wanted to branch out into planes so i bought a few modern ones in the sale.
I assume the planes are rougher than helicopters.

>>529306168
You're already flying the most plane-like of the helicopters, most of the difficulty is in learning systems and workflows and the modern jets just have more of everything.

I have no idea if MSFS has mirrors or not, this one seems to reflect a very blurry version of what's behind, I've not seen them work on any other plane.

>>529309573
I can't think of any plane in MSFS that even has mirrors except maybe the F/A-18

>>529309645
The Fouga Magister has one that's just a weird blur, maybe the engine can't do mirrors, or maybe the devs just don't bother? Seems a bit strange.

>miltech are releasing an A1H Skyraider at the end of the summer
BASED

>>529309792
>maybe the engine can't do mirrors, or maybe the devs just don't bother?
Small indie company, please understand.

>>529309573
Probably reflect some kind of rough cubemap projection of the env around the aircraft.

>>529310023
Slow-moving attackers is probably something we need in DCS, to bridge the gap between helis and jets.

Also are we getting toilet?

>>529248257
i have a vkb gunfighter mcgu pro and mk4 base. its fantastic and also follows the eastern stick designs. as for the throttle just get winwing, theyre also really good, and you get to pick multiple handle options (f18, f16, f15.a10) i have the f18 that i swapped for the f15ex2 i think its called due to the lack of buttons for a10 and apache cpg

>>529260286
>no FOMO with the prices
the only FOMO in dcs is when ED kikes someone out of their money
please pre order the mig29 and f35

Continuing on my self guided bush trip of Route 66.

i used to think being a commercial pilot would be cool until i played MSFS.
It's like the least engaging job I could imagine, second only to holding a stop sign at a construction site.
You take off, barely do any maneuvering, and then either autopilot the whole way, or slightly adjust direction to follow waypoints for hours on end, and then land.
that seems so fucking boring and I don't know why I thought it would be any different.
At least combat pilots can make things disappear.

>>529323220
Even if I could get past that imagining being stuck for hours in a cockpit with, let alone have to work with, some rando who could potentially be a real asshole kills whatever desire I had left

Modding for roadcraft is still nonexistent. The official modding only allows custom maps, and the unofficial (nexus) is limited to fixing the heavy tipper truck and cheat resources. I don't know how it compares to the runner games, do those have anything going on besides adding real trucks and pepsi trailers in?

>>529323937
how the fuck is roadcraft considered a sim game?
it's a bastardized arcade version of a superior game

>>529324164
Paving sim

>>529323220
i thought about it as well but accounting for everything, if i were to pick a career like this irl:
mil pros:
>fly cool jets
mil cons:
>shit pay
>shit job
>shit work life balance
>could kill
>could die
civ pros:
>money
>better work life balance
>piss cheap airline tickets
>flirting with stewardesses
>comfy cockpit
>have time for yourself off work, not stuck in military life bullshit, always waiting for orders like a dog
civ cons:
>boring

>>529310023
>>529314067
tfw microsoft fucking flight simulator has a skyraider with weapons systems and damage model before DCS, if crosstail continues at this once-a-year update pace we might see test flights before the 2030s

SoFly's making an audio-only competitor to FS Realistic:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5_bjHZe7uYA

>>529344953
How cool would an entire audio-only flight sim be? I guess you could do it by simming with a friend; you have the controls, they have the monitor.

>>529346195
>tfw safer than boeing

Bump

>crash on the Generali building by mistake in my M-346 yesterday
>dream about it for some reason
>wake up to this
I don't believe in prophetic dreams, but this is spooky.

>>529330978
Development for DCS addons does seem ridiculously slow, I know they're study level planes but it seems to take them forever to develop anything.

>>529368493
>not believing in prophetic dreams after that
Mate that's too much of a coincidence.

Trailer for BMS 4.38 is up. Download links will be up soon. I cannot force myself to play DCS right now, so I will give it a go and try to complete 1 or 2 campaigns.

>>529370025
>I cannot force myself to play DCS right now
Why not?

>>529369693
One time I ate pasta all'amatriciana for like 5 days in a row and on the sixth day there was the earthquake at Amatrice. I passed it off as coincidence that time too.
I'll try to dream of a M-346 DCS module being a reality.

>>529370789
I get the sense that DCS players turn their nose up that isn't a fast jet or an attack heli

>>529370770
Don't know. Been playing for a few years and nowadays I cannot play for more than 30 minutes. I just hop on, do some landing practice and turn the game off.

>>529370980
I get the same feeling. Online it's always just spamraam in either the F-16 or the F-18. There is also the group of people that don't want anything more modern than a radar screen in their jets so the glass cockpit of the 346 would make them puke.
Personally I still think it would be a nice module for basically almost everything al long as you're okay with it being transonic. It has the Marte antiship missile, MRAAMs so you can't just lob a bunch of AIM120s. Gunpod would be a downside tho.
Realistically 80% of the functions of the non FA version are useless in DCS. What is the point of simulating various AA/AG and other modes when you're already in a simulator?
The FA variant would be the way to go if they could implement some modern EW aspects in DCS.
Hell, I would even be okay with a Yak-130 even if it's ass to have to lose 2 hardpoints if you want to have flare/chaff. I seriously don't understand why they wouldn't go for an in-body approach like with every other fucking jet.
Regarding the poor performance of trainers in DCS I feel like it's also due to the maps. I don't know how to explain it but flying for a long while in MSFS in a slower trainer is no big deal, I'll even make fake bombing runs etc. While in DCS after unloading all rockets and bombs I get tired of just flying around.

Absolute madness in Hong Kong at the moment and MP isn't even on, it's the AI going nuts

>>529372005
Maybe due to the scenery quality? Or maybe it's down to objectives in DCS and the lack of a dynamic campaign. In civ sims the objective is to fly I suppose so you enjoy just that even if it's in some slow shitbox.

I unironically can not load any webpage except 4chan while I am at this airport.
has DCS added any new modules in the last 6 months? I've been trying to google this for an hour and can't get anything to work except this fucking site

>tailgunning in a roland
>shoot my rudder into tatters
I just assumed they would have some measure to stop retards (me) from blowing the shit out of their own plane. Maybe I'm wrong and it was some enemy fire that I didn't see.

>>529373229
>Maybe due to the scenery quality?
I think so. It probably makes your brain think it's actually navigating a real space due to the lack of repeating textures. In DCS I always have to use the altimeter to know my elevation, with MSFS I kinda got a knack for knowing when I'm at 7k, 18k and 28k feet even without looking at my instruments.

>>529373531
F-4U Corsair and the german map I think.

>>529376220
The Germany map looks quite good

>>529377289
I've heard. I'm tempted to buy that map with the mig29 once it comes out but I'm a bit strapped for cash after buying presents for my nephews.

>>529384969
Based uncle.

Germany is bloody good though when you do have some spare cash.

https://msfsaddons.com/2025/06/30/winwing-introduces-new-airliner-hardware-at-fsexpo-2025/
new Winwing gear, the rudder pedals look nice But I'm sure they'll be a ripoff in the UK and Europe compared to the US.

>>529391264
To me the real news is they've got force-feedback rudder pedals for less than the price of Thrustmaster's non-ffb pendular pedals

>>529391609
Fuck. That might actually get me to buy winwing.

>>529391609
How useful would force feedback pedals be?

>>529391682
Very handy for jumping between warbirds, jets, and helos without having to change anything physical on the pedal. Cool to have for shit like asymmetric operations

>>529391682
I'd prioritize getting ffb stick/yoke for trimming but ffb pedals is cool for feeling air forces on the rudder
They have to have good software for MSFS though, since MSFS doesn't do its own ffb simulation

>>529390260
Lmao

>>529310023
It really blew my mind when I found out there's a little compartment in the back for passengers. Looks ultra comfy.

>>529393194
Me too mate, I always wondered why there's a side door with a window, it's actually quite awkward to find out what the hell is inside but here's an image

bump

Simming soon

ded thread, too hot to sim

I just thought you guys should know the Alligator Alcatraz airport does exist in MSFS.

>>529427740
>Alligator
Bombardillo coccodrillo?

sleeping until 4.38

>>529393402
Jesus Christ, how horrifying! What was the objective here?

>>529432423
It's surprisingly awkward to find out about, but apparently it was the AD-4N, a night version
>Three-seat night attack version; 307 built
Presumably the poor sods in the back were monitoring radar, what an awful place to be.

>>529426330
Today is model building day, tomorrow is maybe sim day.

>>529434235
Build a Kinetic M-346 1/48.

>>529437829
I'm a cis male, so no.

>255mb SU3 beta update for MSFS 2024 at this time of night
Spooky

>>529438568
Tf is a cis?

>>529440837
tranny language for normal

>>529440934
The you would love the m346, it's the jet version of a big breasted shortstack tomboy gf.

>>529432423
>>529432992
>horrifying
>awful
looks comfy desu

>>529446882
I guess now we know how they were able to find meat cargo to fill the flying kennel.

>find simulator for rov i need to use
>sim made in japan and likely utterly abandoned
>crafted in an old version of unity
>uncapped framerate that makes my fans affect the earth rotation
>only works with the real proprietary controller
>only works if connected to a very specific internet port
>controller only works on 5ghz wifi, double my shit antenna
>currently waiting for new adapter
I'm getting neck deep in simkino

>>529469428
rare deepanon sighted, pics of the rig?
niche industrial peripherals make my pp hard

>>529370025
I am kind of underwhelmed with the update. I expected way more for some reason. The ground graphics from up close are still bad and there haven't been that many gameplay/immersion updates. It's mostly just eye candy updates, and they're not even that great.

just bought a full hotas setup because I have ADHD and am terrible with money.
I have one module for DCS but would like to get more.
My HOTAS shit wont be here for 9 weeks.
Should I bother playing with my janky ass setup now or should I wait until I have everything set up so I'm not hit with trying to relearn everything on new controls?

>>529487330
You can do the training tutorials to learn where everything is in the cockpit even without touching your HOTAS. Fourth Gen fighters are heavily dependent on the button mapping on your stick and throttle grip for weapons though, so if there is a WW2-Vietnam era aircraft you had your eye on then this might be the time to fly it.

The Got Friends AS 33 Me is out, I love gliders but I've already got a few so won't get it yet, sounds pretty mental though.
>Bug wipers
>Ballast management with controllable fill and release rates
>Contamination drag, with performance degradation from rain, dirt, and bugs

>>529446882
>squeezed into a smelly box with another bloke
>air consists of fumes and farts
>no light apart from the screen you're staring at for blips and bloops
>get thrown around as the plane goes on a strafing run
>deafened by DUGADUGADUGA of four 20mm cannons

>comfy

>>529504852
Forgot to add, it's 2024 compatible but a native upgrade is coming soon
>2024 Upgrade Shipping Mid-July for Free with this Purchase

>>529504960
I mean except for the fart smell that unironically does indeed sound comfy

>>529505943
We'll see if miltech add the passenger cabin when they release it and you can follow your dreams

>>529487330
use a gamepad layout or your jank, most of what you need to learn isn't related to muscle memory and there's a lot of info to download into your head to be able to fly plane gud.
ground school and rtfm before touching controls is the "right" way to do it but if you need to fiddle to keep your interest there's nothing wrong with it

>>529487330
Buy another full hotas setup and hope it arrives before the other one

Some mad bastard has made a OH-58 campaign for free with some help from the guy that wrote "Scouts Out." Only done the first couple of missions but it feels like it's gonna be good - missions are decent quality, and there's a fucking unhinged AI-voiced madman in the copilot seat. I'm having fun.

>>529515876
>simming in this heat
Absolute madman but I might have a go in a bit and just accept that I'll be sweating my balls off

>>529515876
>OH-58 campaign
Oh fuck, finally!

>>529520162
It's non-official and user made but it's really good so far

>>529526542
That's fine, I was just looking forward to a campaign made specifically for the Kiowa. There is also that one campaign that was adapted from the SA342 version that is pretty good (Dixmude, I think), but this is a step in the right direction. The Kiowa deserves some campaigns that are as good as Paradise Lost or the Worlds Apart campaigns.
I've given up on there ever being a good campaign for the Chinook, because I don't want to listen the the copilot speaking in ebonics.

>>529479559
Nothing really deep, it's a tiny rov for inspection and recovering overboard phones up to 100m. It's portable and can be launched from any boat or dock so the controller is a step up from a logitech and you have to bring your own screen. No rig pic but I have a sea creature on hand.
I've been in a control room for a proper truck-sized rov, full of switches and screens and comfy chairs, no idea how to even begin to apply for something like that

>>529504960
imagine being locked in for six hours

>>529532528
That pic...
>Hey nigger, you're in the WRONG neighborhood

BMS .38 IS OUT
>BMS .38 IS OUT
BMS .38 IS OUT
>BMS .38 IS OUT
BMS .38 IS OUT
>BMS .38 IS OUT
BMS .38 IS OUT
>BMS .38 IS OUT
BMS .38 IS OUT
>BMS .38 IS OUT

https://www.falcon-bms.com/downloads/

>>529548671
big if true

>>529544059
I thought this was a fighter jet of peace? Did assoboe lie to me?

>>529551775
Si vis pacem, para bellum.

bms f15 cockpit

>>529552253
Me minasne?

>>529555568
That looks great, how's the performance?

>>529556687
in the f15 on the ground plus like 30 seconds of flight im getting 180 fps on highest settings @ 2k res with default textures (not 16k ones) and ill be trying vr now

>>529556687
nvm, cant test vr since the openxr performance tool is broken on the .38, but looks ok, low level flying between the mountains with vegetation on the highest

>>529555809
Tralalero tralalà

>>529529053
Yeah fair call - I've only played the first three missions but so far, so good. And the Kiowa copilot, while AI-voiced, sounds fucking unhinged in a truly positive way lmao

>>529548671
>redfor wen

>>529548671
>>529555568
>tfw 1650 super
It's over for me. I don't understand it though. I can run complex shit like Red Dead Redemption at 60 FPS at acceptable quality, yet Falcon BMS will struggle just displaying a simple cockpit. They don't know how to optimize their shit.
It's disappointing, because ever since 4.35 they kept improving the performance release after release.

>>529571000
they're working on a mig29 right now
>>529573432
you can stay on .37 since they're separate instances but obviously incompatible with .38 if you play multiplayer

>>529576881
I can't bring myself to keep playing 4.37 while an objectively better version is out.

Just gave it a try: a whooping 30 FPS in the benchmark mission. It's not really playable, because the headtracking feels off with anything less than 60 FPS. I've never tried DCS, but I see people claiming that they get better FPS in DCS than Falcon BMS now. That's ridiculous, because DCS looks way better.

I so want to re-read the videos these AI aircraft history crap channels are shitting out and publish them myself.
I don't even need to make any money I just can't stand listening to AI voiced slop.

>>529247981
>Arcade slop
Neither, fuck off.

Is Nuclear Option /simg/ related?

currently considering making a sim of something i work on by myself since none exist

>>529590747
Definitely. I just haven't been able to really get into it because I'm already ruined by VR, and it doesn't have it yet.

It's out*
https://a2asimulations.com/product/accu-sim-aerostar-600-msfs-2024/
*early access

I genuinely don't understand how to shoot aircraft with guns using a HOTAS
trying to line your plane up seems more complex than algebra.

Tomorrow the last few Tornados of the 154th gruppo volo Diavoli Rossi will be transfered to the 155th gruppo volo Pantere Nere since the 154th will fully switch to F-35s. This is the special livery for the occasion.

>>529610608
Based

>>529632854
Have you come from War Thunder?

>>529632854
what plane? if it's a modern one just put the thing on the thing. Watch some videos like this to start with. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KloXF7U4RK0

>>529590747
The year is 2030. All pusher aircraft have been shot down and now tractors rule the sky with an iron fist. Mounting a propeller the wrong way is punishable by extreme immolation.

>>529636801
pushers are kino

>>529636937
I've developed negative feelings towards them after 200 hours of getting headshotted by a F.E.2b gunner in my E.III shitbox. The tides have turned though. It's now the era of total RFC annihilation

>>529636937
Are there any mechanical benefit for pushers other than the obvious one of not shooting your propellers?

>radios are not working, SU3 beta seems to have broken this plane a bit
>can't talk to ATC or even tune to the ILS
>night time in the T-33 which I barely know how to fly
>cockpit night lighting for the instruments is literally just a torch shone onto it
I'm going to die.

>>529639956
Bloody hell I landed it, fortunately there's no wind here, not a fan of 130 knot approach speeds desu

>>529573432
my 1660 super is kinda surviving
(flat screen, 1080p lmao)

>>529641451
Watching the sun come up is fun

>>529641094
I'm also on 1920x1080.
I turned the grass off, converted the textures to the 4k version, ticked the graphical options in the config tool which reduce strain. Despite that, I still only had like 30FPS in the benchmark mission. Anything below 60FPS feels weird with head tracking, I have no idea why.

what's the f15 stall speed?

Why is this dam pink?

>>529643003
It's like the An-2, it doesn't have one.

>>529639346
>not shooting your propellers?
Impossible even with pullers since the gun is mechanically timed with the propellers

Just shot a plane down

>>529643231
I think that was the reasoning behind the early pushers. Germans developed that tech before the Brits/French.

>>529632854
>more complex than algebra
it's calculus, actually, you just train your brain to do it automatically by sight and feel like a dog catching a frisbee

In awe at the length of this lad

>>529642775
try flying a campaign mission, airbases have lower fps now because they're full of objects.
>one billion bomb carts please
once you're airborne it might smooth out for you

>>529643231
>the gun is mechanically timed with the propeller
Not on this hot piece of ass

>>529657060
How is the An-2? I was keeping track of it but it ended up in development hell, I think there were licensing issues or the dev got called up to fight or something because all ATSimulations social media went dead ages ago. Have there been any updates to it?

>>529657207
Ah don't worry I remember now, they made the Seastar that's in the deluxe edition, maybe they're just making planes for Asobo now rather than doing their own thing.

>>529657207
pure kino, extremely comfy, should be illegal to fly this slow.
just don't be in a hurry to get anywhere

>>529657060
Based and slowiplled.

>>529469428
I'm simging out.
It's somewhat quicker than going to a pond or pool to learn the controls, but nothing else. Runs poorly, very inaccurate/unrealistic movement, the tether is magical, and a very important feature is bugged. 3/10 not worth trying, better off playing subnautica

>>529665897
How deep can you go?

>>529580648
i lost on avg 70 fps going from 37 to 38

>>529666027
There's 2 maps for the 11 scenarios, the big one is 25 meters deep

>>529669708
>snow in July
Is that accurate in the Alps?

>>529665897
>looks clear to me, boss

If this is an autogen airport then I'm very impressed, I've never seen gliders at one before.

>>529648484
pencil planes are based
metroliner, crj-900, 757-300, dc-8-61, md-90
all fantastic birds

>>529676607
They should get rid of wide bodies and just make planes longer

>>529651448
Did they ever finish the rest of that airplane?

>>529679614
I forgot the -1000 existed kek what an absolute unit

>>529679614
>TFW deplaning and in the last row

>>529681062
>takes so long they've already refuelled and the next lot of passengers are getting on before you've disembarked

flight over (not really) scenic capri

>>529684210
same caption but im less retarded

>>529684440
MSFS has spoilt me for terrain and now everything else looks dreadful, as long as the cockpits are nice I suppose

>>529685637
the cockpits are fantastic

Chill evening flight.

>>529688652
>X Plane 1000
Cringe yet sovl

>>529689240
You don't like the G1000?

Second evening flight, this time trying the Beechcraft Baron 58 for the first time, didn't even have to read any manuals because everything I've already learnt in the King Air pretty much applies here, except this thing is slightly older and simpler instruments-wise.

>>529695861
I find them soulless but they're good, I was more laughing at the fact that it's not licensed so says X Plane 1000.

>>529696526
Haha. And yeah I have to agree it's kinda soulless because it's so modern and fancy, but I find it gives me some nice variety every once in a while.

The Baron 58 seems like a fun simple plane, first flight went just fine, ATC gave me a basic STAR to an RNAV approach. Only few small details bother me which I have to check later from the plane's manual.

Recently found out that all the weird vehicles in Roadcraft are just slightly modified russian machines

>>529684440
looks like an ORBX DCS map

its insane how few players know how to use the medkit in reforger

>Frontier treating the players who support them like whales
Despite myself and my interest in space games, I no longer want to play this fucking game.

lil golden hour stol flying in my baby

Any twotter enjoyers?

>>529738990
one wheel at a time baybee

>>529738990
aerobrakeee

>>529738990
all done :)

>check Nuclear Option QA on r*ddit
>mfw
Damn, the game is already good, but it also has a promising future. It may be simplified with fictional vehicles, but damn if it isn't fun, easy to pick up, and actually dynamic to play.
Meanwhile ED will sell you some piece of shit WIP cargo helicopter in a game with no logistic support. ))))))

>think sail boats are childs play
>get bodied immediately by one
not like this

Staring up a comfy morning flight with the baron.

>>529714679
kino

>>529734960
Hang on a fucking minute, they're now charging actual money for ships?

>>529758980
Climbing to FL100.

>>529759874
Damn it, forgot flaps.

>>529759874
That's far too high, come down from there right now young man

>>529760083
Nah it's too kino up here. Cruising and soon STAR starting from FL100, descend via it to FL031, one leg STAR.

>>529761579
Decent arrival, approach and landing but I find RNAV approaches quite boring desu. I wish you could tune the X-Plane ATC so that it would give you only certain types of approaches. Maybe I'll have to look up ATC plugins, if there are any good ones.

>>529763518
Also yeah I admit I didn't yet utilize the HSI on the Baron fully.... I somehow forget to sync its course and during landing was like whatever because I could see my glide slope being fine from the runway VASI.

>>529763518
>140kts on approach

>>529764209
Yeah I'm still bad at speed control with the baron, I knew someone would notice this. I added a notch of flaps and extended landing gear after that screenshot which slowed me down but I was still slightly above a comfortable landing velocity. It doesn't slow down like the other planes I've flown in X-Plane...

>>529764303
Just slow down earlier mate, some planes really do not want to slow down and you have to give them more time.

>>529764397
You're right it should logically work out fine if I just add the flaps and landing gear before the FAF or even before the IAF (still adhering to STAR/APPR speed restrictions ofc) so I could slow down while flying almost level in most approaches. I'm sorry anon-san I'll try to do better next time I swear.

>>529764578
It's just practice innit, the King Air is very slippery and doesn't like slowing down either so I have experience with finding out you're going too fast too late, and nobody likes go arounds.

Nice evening for it
PWCG campaign has been fun...
started in '41 near the beginning of Barbarossa, now we're heading into the battle of Stalingrad now
some of the Lend-Lease american planes are appearing now, P40s and A-20s
Poor Willy Bauer has been wounded a few times now. Gets on well with the nurses though!

>>529764763
What version of the King Air do you fly? The default X-Plane one?

>>529764937
The Blacksquare Analogue overhaul one for MSFS 2020

>>529765054
Seems cool, slightly more detailed than the X-Plane default C90 B. I'm on linux so I don't think I'll ever buy MSFS, so I'll have to make do with whatever X-Plane has.

You might not like it MB-346 anon but I found out in which way the Yak-130 is superior to the mb346. Total weapons on board and hardpoints. the yak has 3 under wings and 2 tips, yours has 2 under wings

>>529765835
It's also actually been involved in combat, killing civilians in Myanmar

>>529766787
really?

>>529766949
https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2022/7/30/myanmar-used-russian-made-aircraft-in-civilian-attacks-report

Did anyone here go to FlightSimExpo?

I don't like this thing... (Lancair Evo single turbine prop). It's powerful though...

>>529770162
it's fucking ugly, the Lancair Legacy though is gorgeous

>>529734960
In the short term I don't care about this. Buying ships with real money is boring so I just wait until they're buyable in-game.
But I do have a concern that it'll lead to power creep over time as they need to come up with reasons for people to keep buying more ships

>>529771916
Yeah it's ugly inside-out and handles very crudely, you steer it on the ground via differential braking, etc... I understand it, it's an experimental aircraft (sold as amateur-built kit afaik), but I really don't want to fly it in a sim.

>>529772598
>differential braking
I hate differential braking because I don't have rudder pedals
>have to twist the stick and press the brake button like a retard
not a fan, I'll get pedals at some point
Captcha: YAWVA

>>529761579
>tfw when Simbrief auto-assigns me STARs higher than my plane can fly

>>529763518
>Maybe I'll have to look up ATC plugins, if there are any good ones.
The two prominent ones for X-Plane these days are SayIntentions and Pilot2ATC
There's also X-ATC-Chatter, that has a feature called "Simple ATC," but I've never used it, don't know much about it

>all 6 men flying with me have died in mid air collisions
>again

>>529773298
>SayIntentions
That reminds me, SI has that generic "use any sim" API thing now, right? Anyone made a DCS plugin for it?

>>529773880
https://github.com/papiplanes/sayintentions-dcs-adapter

>>529776472
nice

>>529765835
>Total weapons on board and hardpoints.
That's not true. Look at your pic and pic rel. The Yak-130 due to the landing gear bay configuration has lost the central underfuselage wet tubed hard point that the M-346 retains. The second hardpoint isn't used but still retained on the m-346 since during testing it showed to have adverse effect on the flight envelope of the plane (russians don't really care).
And regarding the wingtip hardpoints that are present on both the M-346 and the yak, on the yak they are essentially lost since they weren't able to develop a true fighter attack version (yak-131) so they had to put the flares on the wingtips.
This leaves the yak with 4 useful hardpoints for ordnance if they don't carry any extra fuel (unrealistic). While the M-346FA can have 5 hardpoints with ordnance with an extra fuel tank or a TGP/EW/RECCE pod. (or 4 weapons and 2/3 extra fuel)
Not to mention that due to russian engines whenever you put any kind of load on the yak the T/W ratio goes lower than a fully fueled L-39.
>>529767035
>bombing civilians who at most have some FGC-9s
Jesus.

>>529773760
il2?

>RAF Will Open Competition to Replace Hawk T1 and T2 Jets
Britanni! Ignore tabloids like the Sun and shill for the M-346 to your local representative! Just don't choose the M-345, it's gay.

>>529777610
I thought we were going with that weird Aeralis modular babby plane. Also in other UK defence news
>The Defence Secretary said 12 F-35As will be substituted into the next tranche of 27 jets to be ordered, replacing 12 F-35Bs that would otherwise have been procured.
We're going to get the As in the next batch interestingly, by which time they'll be fucking obsolete
>“I expect those F-35As to start being delivered before the end of the decade,”

>>529777846
Looking into it, it sounds like it'll be the 346 or the Aeralis, with the preference being on the latter due to it being british

>>529777846
>I thought we were going with that weird Aeralis modular babby plane.
It's most likely going to be the winner. Granting such a contract to a company that has zero experience is risky but the public would never accept the RAF and RA flying a non British plane.
>F-35
I don't really understand the F-35 order. I tought the Uk went all in with the "at least one sub always at sea" for their nuclear deterrence. I don't see a bunch of B-61s and F-35s like the ones we have at Ghedi being that threatening.
>>529778456
Yeah. Aeralis had even approached the french Dassault to jointly develop it. Just hope it'll go better than the FCAS.

>>529777276
Yeah. I wanted them to distract the escort on some bombers while I did dives on them. I looked away for a minute and they were all dead with none of the enemy fighters downed.

>>529778774
I don't understand it either, maybe it's for a quick response more tactical option than an icbm.

>>529778898
All my knowledge about nuclear warfare is the same since I was 12yo. I always tought that once a single nuke is used everyone goes bananas. Maybe those smaller tactical nukes are more tolerated in case of a conflict.

>>529779036
That is true, I suppose having planes nearby with nukes is another deterrent, multiple options

>>529778774
>the public would never accept the RAF and RA flying a non British plane
I wouldn't be so sure. the comments on faceberg of brits seem to be mostly "just don't buy american"

>>529779601
Nah if the red arrows for instance started flying non-British planes then people would be outraged

>>529777053
lmao, fucking russians. that bay door looks like sheet metal

>>529778774
>destroy your domestic industry's ability to build aircraft
>chimpout when demo team can no longer fly domestic aircraft
why are bongs like this?

>>529782881
If something becomes successful in the UK we either sell it or it gets bought out

Stealing this from /n/

>>529777610
>hawk 2ah

>>529767268
>BuyFagHardwareExpo
no thanks

>>529784229
>BIGGEST AND FASTEST
Lockheed being based as usual

>>529784870
I'm unfamiliar with the B733 project, I was only aware of the 2707 design. Super cool.

>>529784870
>The CL-823 used a cranked-arrow wing and buried engines, the L-2000 had a compound delta and podded engines, and was larger overall.

damn did the thread get sonic boomed?

>can't decide between euro truck or american truck
leaning toward the former since it has a more complete map. ATS would be more interesting if it had the east coast and great lakes.

>>529800251
I have over 400 hours in American truck and 200 in Euro. I much prefer ATS even though I'm a Brit
>scale is better
>trucks are huge
>proper rural states
>speed limits are higher
>more sightseeing
>quality overall of the map is much better than ETS2 as a whole, the oldest state, California has been completely reworked
The quality of ETS2 vary tonnes, with the DLC areas being great (apart from Going East), but the non-DLC areas are fucking terrible, especially the UK which hasn't been touched since 2010.
>more complete map
I'm not sure which has a larger map, ATS gets at least 2 new states a year, it's getting 3 this year so maybe that's the new norm. ETS2 gets a DLC every few years. Also ATS gets a lot more in terms of new trucks, ETS2 gets next to nothing, the amount of trucks has barely changed for absolutely years, I presume the companies are more anal about licensing.

Overall it's up to you, but I would say that the quality of the map is a lot better in ATS than ETS2 overall and you'll be disappointed by quite a few areas in ETS2 and how old and shit they look.

I'm a burger and I have like 50 hours in ETS2 but 0 in ATS (I own it).. I think it might boil down to wanting to drive the opposite side of the pond.

>>529802867
I suppose it's something different isn't it. Shame SCS seem to be making DLC for every country bar the UK for some reason.
>you are now reminded there's a practically complete Russia DLC that never got released due to the war

>>529803637
Forgot to say, there are coaches coming to ETS2 which is fun, they were teased about 8 years ago and then forgotten about.

Yes, yes, well done, M-346. Well done, M-346. HOWEVER

>>529805481
I kneel

That thing in the middle isn't a cupboard, it's a lift, for the crew to access the galley in an Il-86

Kek first time flying the Sirrus SR22 in X-Plane and the interior honestly reminds me of a car.

>>529813823
It even has a keyboard in the middle so you can shitpost as you fly

>>529805481
Lol is this just to balance load?

>>529828603
>The toilet was a damaged toilet, which was going to be thrown overboard. But one of the plane captains rescued it and the ordnance crew made a rack, tailfins and nose fuse for it
>It was dropped in a dive with LCDR Bacon flying tight wing position to film the drop. When it came off, it turned hole to the wind and almost struck his airplane.

>M-346 + AirLand Scorpion but its also carrier capable
I love the Compass

>>529828889
>When it came off, it turned hole to the wind and almost struck his airplane.

Mental how you could walk around the planet in the game in real time if you wanted to

>>529811829
>IL-86
ocнoвaнный.
Did you know that passengers boarded from ground level through a coat room on the lower level? Designed so passengers in cold climates could check their big coats without wasting space in the passenger compartment.

>>529272693
Haven't tried SH. Before my time. I've read in a lot of Uboat's reviews that some people see it as the spiritual successor of SH but I can't give any comparison myself.

>>529672398
I remember Jorg saying they added glider ports all around the world. He was on a stream or interview somewhere and said they literally had some guys just calling every glider school in the world asking them about their setup so they could include them.

That's a precision landing right there.

>>529848505
Forgot pic

>>529848695
all i need is my ballcrushing TFRPs

>>529813823
yeah they designed it that way
>we're going to design our cars so they look like airplanes
>well now we're going to design our airplanes so they look like cars

>>529854545
>Put balls outside of zipper
>Problem solved

>>529857247
im naked in nothing but my cheap halloween top gun outfit and vr headset, thats freedom

>>529865442
hehe. all Floppy

should i buy nuclear option, bros?

>>529867260
Millions must die. Only one sim lets you contribute.

>>529868123
>'mgunna NOOOOOK!

>>529867260
Depends; is $18 a lot of money for you?

>>529869026
i just wanna know what the actual gameplay is like

>>529869759
Random gameplay off jewtube

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Nn7sZBhnSQ

>>529869759
your average mp match is more entertaining than dcs and it's a better use of $20 than buying the yak

I refuse to use autohover

>>529839159
Fascinating, I was wondering why that was the case.

>>529842952
You're right I'd forgotten about that, it's the first one I've been to then, nice touch.

>>529867260
Never buy early access

>>529897703
Nah, buy early access because it will only be worse later.

346lad do you use the airbrakes much? It feels like if you're having to use them on approach you haven't slowed down enough and you shouldn't rely on them.

>>529902795
I do use them to slow down if I find myself butchering the overhead break, but less than I did in the past.
>if you're having to use them on approach you haven't slowed down enough
That's generally true imho, but if I'm very light usually prefer to keep the speed break out and keep N1 higher so I'm not constantly bumping on idle, kinda like with the DCS F-16. I have no idea if this is proper procedure tho. I've seen both kind of landings so I guess it's more of a "at your discretion" thing.
I always think that if I was in the real jet, being close to the landing speed in case something happened and I needed to quickly go around, retracting the speed brake and pushing the throttle would get me faster, quicker than if I had N1 close to idle due to spool up times.

tl;dr= I don't really know what the proper procedure is

Is there a PW Campaign Generator equivalent for cliffs of dover? Preferably something with a little campaign interface instead of a pure mission generator.

Is it worth getting the Kiowa if I already have the Apache?

>>529910564
they do different things and have different mission profiles, so the real question is if you'll actually put time into flying both.

>>529908474
Fair enough, I'll look into it more.

I've flown the Inibuilds T-33 enough now to give some thoughts
>external model is really nice
>cockpit looks decent, not perfect but it looks really nice
>flies well, there was a lot of negative feedback over the flight model initially, I belive that has been fixed with updates, I'm not sure about the stall behaviour, it's tame which apparently is realistic but might be too tame, and doesn't seem to spin at all
>the sounds are good and bad, it's very loud and get get grating after a while at high throttle, but it sounds great initially, maybe the loop is too short
>Documentation is shit, it goes through some systems but there are many switches and systems in the plane that aren't explained and I have no idea if they work or not, cabin pressurisation and oxygen for example, the latter of which I don't think actually works
>Bugs, I can't communicate with ATC with it, the tablet in the plane often doesn't work, there's no canopy (SU3 beta bug) and some other things I've noticed
I give it a 7/10, I got it on sale for £12 which is a good price, and it's a fun plane, I would like to see the bugs fixed but sadly doubt they will be.

>>529916039
>doesn't seem to spin at all
Actual spins are not really implemented in MSFS. Some developers hardwired them in like witht the F14 and Sf260, but that's it.

>>529916565
I've definitely spun planes in 2020 and 2024, maybe it's just done by the plane developer then, so inibuilds perhaps didn't bother.

>>529913906
If it has a completely different mission profile then probably.

Did WW1 pilots (any nation) have a higher casualty rate than WW2 u-boat sailors? The situation for pilots seemed really fucking grim when you factor in enemy encounters, natural failure of your balsa wood shitbox, inadequate training, and normal mistakes like botched landings or collisions. Were mid-flight collisions as common as these sims seem to make them or is that the AI being shit? I can't go a single mission without at least one crash.

Looking around the website of the ones who made the livery for a few of the recent tonkas I found pic rel. I wonder if it's anything serious or just something they did for fun.

>>529923964
the background looks like msfs

>>529924227
>https://theaviationist.com/2025/07/04/154-gruppo-f-35a/
It is. apparently they sell some of these liveries. I'll check the marketplace.

>>529924452
can't find them

>>529925884
Maybe they're on the 2024 one, what are you searching for?

>>529926402
Tornado liveries. One should be the one for the 50th anniversary of the first flight, the other is from the 40th and the third should be something related to the 102th gruppo.

>>529927067
No liveries on the 2024 marketplace for the tornado just had a look, the marketplace in 24 is pretty sparse, it hasn't been up for long and people still working on conversions for their addons.

I did such a shit landing that I alt+f4'd after floating down half the runway

>>529927675
Thanks for checking anyway.

>The official administrators at FlightSim.Com have been AWOL for quite a while. I can sometimes help as I have access to the back-end.
retards, all you had to do was have your 2020 categories ready to roll out on day one of the release of the new flightsim.

>>529934387
Happens to the best of us.

>>529910564
The one downside to the Kiowa module is that there aren't that many campaigns for it yet (compared to the Apache), although there is a decent number of single missions for that that people have made.
It's a great module though, if you have any interest in helis then this is non-optional that you buy it.

spending too much time in dcs, has 2020 just always been this ugly? is it finally time to upgrade?

>>529948423
2024 looks better but not that much better, the new trees are one of the biggest improvements. I would wait as SU3 is scheduled for this month.

this is how you bleed off speed before landing

>>529957864
>200kts to 0 that quickly
I kneel

I saw this on the forums

Wait a minute, this isn't a fun sim game, this is an actual job

>>528887467
you are correct

>>529961967
That looks kino

>>529961967
Plot twist: you're operating this IRL >for free.

>>529961967
I actually thought this was real footage until I saw the physics don't make 100% sense

>>529963349
>fuck shit up and make everything explode as usual when playing sim games
Well that was a dumb idea.

>>529960724
>>529961327
The Tomcat tutorials and Heatblur manual literally teach you Case 1 and Case 3 patterns.

>>529962935
It supports controller + keyboard, hotas, pedals, and master arm controllers, plus multiple displays. It has a few unlockable scenarios but the win condition might be broken or disabled for the trial.

>>529963616
Heave and currents are only on the paid version

Not a stick connoisseur but this doesn't look comfortable. 5F and 7F are two separate arms, I think they didn't assign all the functions

>>529984164
>5F and 7F are two separate arms
You usually won't separate them unless you're playing some WW2 plane or civilian shit so it doesn't really matter.