Mars-pattern edition

Previously on /coopg/ : >>529566893

>Latest News/Updates:

Vermintide 2:
New Map: The Well of Dreams - Live now! Skulls In-game Event - Patch 6.6.0
https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/new-map-the-well-of-dreams-live-now-skulls-in-game-event-patch-6-6-0/108063

Darktide:
Free Update: Battle for Tertium - Out Now! (Patch Notes)
https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/free-update-battle-for-tertium-out-now-patch-notes/109117
Hotfix #70 (1.8.2)
https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/hotfix-70-1-8-2/110096

>Acknowledged but not really discussed
Ready Or Not
Starship Troopers Extermination
Aliens: Fireteam Elite
Killing Floor 2
Barotrauma
Left4Dead 2
SCP: 5K
GTFO
No More Room in Hell 2
Helldivers 2
Space Marine 2
Remnant 2
Payday 3
Back4Blood
Deep Rock Galactic
Earth Defense Force 6
WWZ
The Outlast Trials
The Forever Winter
Firebreak
Wildgate
and others

>Future games
Killing Floor 3 - delayed
https://store.steampowered.com/news/app/1430190/view/499441143215293470
Den Of Wolves - TBA
DarkSwarm - TBA
Blight: Survival - TBA
Jump Ship - TBA Demo Out

Build planners:
Vermintide 2: http://ranaldsgift.com/
Deep Rock Galactic: http://karl.gg/
Darktide: https://darktide.gameslantern.com/build-editor

>>529660732
Actually let me ask you instead: what can the crusher do that other weapons don't already do better?
Together with it having a dogshit moveset

Good job anon, hope you're proud of yourself.
I am, fuck that nigger.

>>529658473
>to a lesser extent, zealots.
I find this claim to be extremely strange, because my zealot gets accepted more often than declined. Maybe it's the h40 true survivor, maybe it's the actual dedicated support build that convinces people. Either way, most chorus zealots are far bigger deadweight shitters than psykers, because whenever I'm not on zealot, it feels like there never is any fucking chorus when we actually need it. Actual damage zealots have been pretty chill and good players though.

>>529660998
Forgot pic lol.

>>529660705 (OP)
that is quite funny

Help me understand the Concussive + Skullcrusher interaction, I think I'm missing somthing
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3472722314
>Interaction with Skullcrusher
>While Concussive's debuff allows to apply and refresh Skullcrusher stacks on a target at any time, the blessing's damage increase, however, can only be procced and benefited from during its initial 5s duration after which it does not apply anymore because Concussive's debuff cannot keep the target in a 'proper' staggered state. In order to benefit from Skullcrusher's damage increase again, Concussive's debuff has to run out first and then be reapplied (or the target has to be actually staggered).
So, if I hit a guy and keep hitting him, I'll only get the benefit once unless i don't hit him for 5 seconds to let concussive completely run out?
So it's only helpful if I kill an enemy in the first 5 seconds?

>>529661212
What happened? Is this related to him saying religion is the root of all evil or what?

>>529660948
>Make my arguments for me
No bitch, you made the statement, YOU back it up. Why does the crusher suck?

>>529661451
just another Telopots beta orbiter, probably said some 4chan meme

>>529661372
>concussivefags on SUICIDE WATCH

>>529661372
>slap unstaggerable enemy
>Concussive is active for 5 seconds and acts as if the enemy is staggered
>hitting it repeatedly now applies stacks of Skullcrusher
>>529661479
Slow, shit moveset, bad damage/cleave compared to every other weapon usable by Arbites and Zealot, its a old weapon and you can feel it
Can you use it? sure
Can you clear H40 with it? yeah sure
Is it objectively worse than other weapons? Yes
Is it a giant piece of shit to most and only loved by contrarian faggots? Absolutely

>>529661521
I hate the guy because he's hellbent on getting Arbites nerfed, which is a really fucking chump thing to do after Fatshark went and gave him early access AND the DLC entirely for FREE. Hope his tube gets nuked too.

>>529661698
Maybe people should start reporting certain discord messages to fatshark lmao

>>529661686
Do you talk like a retarded faggot from reddit? Certainly.

>>529659030
You should screenshot the messages and evidence that it's happening in his server and mail it to Fatshark so he doesn't get privileges again

rannick did nothing wrong

>>529661861
>M-make the argument chud
>make argument
>wow reddit lol
ok khandones

>>529661873
>>529661212
Kinda funny how Ratclick didn't have a problem with this type of people, but the instant Fagshart switched to 40k retards like him flocked in. I guess shit they say about 40kfags is true kek

>>529661686
>>slap unstaggerable enemy
So it's for killing monstrosities while using skullcrusher. Anything else?

>>529651526
Tox flamer is a girl?

>>529661686
did you watch the webm?
>>hitting it repeatedly now applies stacks of Skullcrusher
ok, but it only seems to work once initially, and won't work again

>>529662296
couldn't tell by the voice?

>>529662296
You didn't know?

Weapon Pack when?

>>529661372
>Help me understand the Concussive + Skullcrusher interaction, I think I'm missing somthing
well it says in your link:
>The best use case is against targets that are hard (or impossible) to stagger by usual means like monstrosities, Captains/Twins, or enemies buffed by the Havoc mutator 'The Final Toll'.
Besides that I don't see any reason to pick it, because everything gets staggered and killed pretty fast anyway.

>>529662268
Stagger immunity modifier i guess
>>529662376
>did you watch
no becaus ei assume everything in the simulacrum is fucked by default

>>529662598
>>did you watch
>no
you also didn't read

>>529662521
Just after new Veteran weapon in the first half of 2025!

>>529662880
enlighten me then.

This rat asked about the weapon pack.

>>529662997
check the green text >>529661372

>>529660705 (OP)
Inspiring Recitation is bugged, giving 70% toughness damage reduction.

The choice?
Clear.

>>529663347
Aww man, they're going to eventually nerf my psyker bubble at home?

>Arbites added like 1000 extra penance points and is letting me bullshit my way further up the rewards ladder without doing any of the annoying ones

>>529663516
320 more points and I'll have all the wierd notbattlepass rewards.

>>529661686
Disregard the other guy, he's not (Me) who asked you to make the argument.
I think you're wrong on the moveset, you've got your hordeclear and your overheads, do you not alternate your heavies and lights?Could use slightly more cleave and damage but I don't think it's garbage just because other weapons do some stuff better. Also it has tons of stagger you can bully all elites without issue outside of that one havoc mod.

I just got yet another email telling me my report in troonopots discord was actioned
This is like playing 40k irl, I'm a reject and I'm accusing others of heresy. I am playing darktide

>>529662598
well, Skullcrusher seems to only be proccing once and never working again

I am addicted to street smarts

>Diddy acquitted of most serious offences

Darktide voiceline for this?

>>529663694
quick rundown?

>>529664013
SHAKE YOUR KARKIN BOOTY!

>Cadia, more like CACa..

>>529661372
Concun- Conshuns- Concoosive + Skullcrusher internanction are strong, you should use, if you want to be like me.

>>529664084
anon has a personal vendetta against a sweaty havoc 40 zoomer streamer

>>529663347
ATTENTION, BLOCK FODDER

Cadia?
More like CACAdia!

need ogryn shield build

>>529664481
Use an Ogryn build with a shield weapon

>>529663347
>hotfix it
>all the LEXspeaker CHADS review bomb the game because their favorite skill is now actually useless

>>529664551
yeah but i dont want to spam h1 i want to toooooooooonk (dont worry i only play damnation)

>>529663657
I agree, but the arbites shock maul has a similar moveset and is basically a direct upgrade. Unless you reeeally want the special activation of the crusher.

>>529663857
>>529663095
Good thing i already wasnt using Skullcrusher then
>>529663657
As the other anon said, the arbites shock maul is just better in every aspect
I do alternate heavy and lights, its still too slow for what it does

>>529664084
telopots used to be a tester but he organized an epic raid on twitch so he got booted
its a discord full of r/4chan type fags who pretend to be cool and make george floyd jokes but trannies arent ok to make fun of, and if you do some janny deletes your messages and times you out repeatedly
so I've just been reporting everything edgy there with ctrl+f for safe-racist stuff like "nog" or "jew"

They're obsessed with /coopg/ and post screenshots there and shit up the thread btw

>>529665048
I can absolutely see that, yea

>>529665048
Shit is that why he quit darktide? RIP

wtf is "base damage"

>>529664481
>>529664670
>tooonking in damnation
if you insist.
This way you can spam taunt and keep your friends safe. If everything goes to hell just drop a nuke.

>>529664481
https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/9f4ba9be-2046-4518-8ceb-99b856684285/shield-build-2
here
>why not FNP instead of HH
because you already so tanky with a shield that it's better to have the ability to fuck shit up with it since it otherwise does not as much damage as your other options

ATTENTION BLOCK FAGGOTS

>>529665318
The start of the calculation, unaffected by any modifier (unless it specifies base damage)

This is now Rat general

Post em

>>529661212
even more obscure than tranner

>>529665440
Always has been.

>>529665048
>They're obsessed with /coopg/ and post screenshots there and shit up the thread
That explains at least some of the retarded false flagging and reddit-tier "trolling" going on in the past 2 weeks or so.

Keep it up, man. Fuck those trannies. Screencap the inevitable paranoid meltie when they start axing members btw.

>>529665440

>>529665048
>They're obsessed with /coopg/ and post screenshots there and shit up the thread btw
It's just one pathetic loser named Supra thinking he's Telopots best friend

>>529665247
for some reason he thought it would make a real difference if he and his goons spam the fatshark twitch chat with "give us mission select" while 2 level artists sit there and go "wtf"

>>529665440

>>529665927
theres definitely other people than supra doing it now

>>529661005
>Actual damage zealots have been pretty chill and good players though.
With fotf and a big dick, all you need to worry about is yourself and the enemy. Support zealots have to do that for themselves and for the rest of the team, ie more moving parts, more opportunities to fuck things up.

>>529665927
>>529666383
wow you even know them by their name...sad

>>529665440
RATSIS MINORIS 609 SPOTTED

>>529666750
I mean yes there's names on discord
when I go there and I see people post screencaps of /coopg/ I can also see their names while they do it

>them
he

>>529666907
Why you go there?

>>529665048
kek no fucking way, are they still using sharty slangs?

Okay now that the novelty of arbites has worn off I think I still prefer ogryn.

>>529665048
I believe it with 95% x-com accuracy

>>529664610
It means your headshots gain a 16% increase in overall damage, impact and cleave added multiplicatively to all the +15% damage nodes sprinkled in the talent tree.

>>529667047
>why are you on darktide discords
I like darktide

>>529667047
NTA but personally I'm bored and reporting retards on Discord is surprisingly easy and kinda cathartic.

I keep hearing people say the MK3 shotgun is arbites most over powered ranged weapon, what blessings and perks are they using because it feels strong but not insane.

Shop rotation when? I want to see new cosmetics, this is so fucking slow.

>>529667215
get a job lmao

>>529667896
Slop rotation days are on every other Thursday.

>>529667896
Next week.

>>529666567
>Support zealots have to do that for themselves and for the rest of the team, ie more moving parts, more opportunities to fuck things up.
The weird thing is that all you have to do is pay attention to the bottom left side of the screen while blindly spraying promethium everywhere and occasionally sliding backwards. Running a health build with martyr's purpose makes you all but immune to fuck-ups because whenever something goes bad, you can immediately chorus again. But all these retards just bring damage builds that only happen to have chorus, so of course they suck.
>With fotf and a big dick,
FotF isn't bad, but stealth is massively superior, and while thammer is a lot more impressive against human bosses, thrust toothpick with backstab CDR seems to just be more useful overall. Think stereotypical knife zealot but with an evolved, better build.

>>529667271
It's extremely good at cleaving through multiple heads and basically instagibs those 5 guys your buddy was going to kill in melee within the next 2 seconds anyway. It's a scoreboard farmer that's incredibly good at wasting ammo on shit that didn't need to be shot, in aurics. That's about the extent of it.
It's a good gun, but I well and truly believe the perception of it being "OP" comes from retards using it incorrectly, because it's among the best at doing that specific thing.

>>529667271
MK8 is better.

how come ogryn is a better ironbreaker

>>529665443
this with FOTF is exactly what I'm running. I dunno I just get hit a lot more than on Vet for some reason.

>>529668304
As long as piggy goes hungry and learns to stop shooting into poxwalkers.

>>529668525
but shooting poxwalkers makes that crunch sound and makes me feel good when I hear it

>>529668525
>stop shooting into poxwalkers
Haha, heavy stubba go BRRRRRRRR.

>>529668185
That's a nice rat.

>>529668657
>boltgun vs scab
yessss

Ammo, rations....all mine...

>>529668304
LIMITED AMMO DOESN'T MEAN LIMITED TO YOU!

>>529668257
He's tall.

>>529668304
STOP HOGGING ALL THE AMMO

HEY STICKY-FINGERS! SHARE THE AMMO!

why do darktide rejects feel more powerful to play than SM2 space marines?

>>529670013
because we're fighting walking rotten corpses and the space marines are fighting the most threatening force in the galaxy

>>529670013
I dunno I didn't play sm2. From memory sm1 was fine though.

>>529670013
Same reason SM2 has way better customization for free, the darktide playerbase is way fucking dumber on average. I say this as someone who likes darktide btw

>>529670113
>the most threatening force in the galaxy
Necrons are in SM2?

>>529670172
Might be the weakest bait I've seen in recent times dude LOL

>>529670282
Isnt it true tho

Bring me ChocoB balls. On a plate.

>>529668185
Made for kissing and snuggling in his neck.

>>529670013
Because for some reason Focus made every enemy ridiculously tanky and your space marine have the durability of an egg shell along with every weapon being weak as shit

>>529670013
Because *roll* Space Marine 2 has *roll* high yield damage *roll* enemies *roll* alongside hp bloat at higher difficulties *roll* resulting in a *roll* gameplay loop where weapons *roll* can feel weak *roll* while enemies feel incredibly dangerous *roll* requiring a mobile *roll* playstyle where the avoidance option is rolling away which doesn't *roll* feel very powerful.

>>529671069
>Because Space Marine 2 has high yield damage enemies alongside hp bloat at higher difficulties resulting in a gameplay loop where weapons can feel weak while enemies feel incredibly dangerous requiring a mobile playstyle where the avoidance option is rolling away which doesn't feel very powerful.
ftfy, you were rolling too much

alright i tried to use my own brain but im too retarded. someone give me some OP arbites shit. I'm using arbites shock maul and the shotpistol/shield

>>529670013
The flamer in Darktide feels way better than the one in SM2.

>>529665048
yeah this general seems full of reddit-tier subhumans with shit takes like the one that the crafting system is good and the looting should be kept obsolete

>>529670682
I don't think I will...

>>529670013
The characters look super OP, while majority of the enemies look relatively manageable in SM2.
In Tides you are literally random crackhead who can bearly speak beating up hundreds of dudes your size with a shovel and shoot guns you character can barely hold. Marines are punch most of the time below their weight while (You) are overcoming all the odds like anime protag.

>>529671362
OUT CLICKED

>>529670013
because they fight nid warriors and rubric marines while you fight mainly poxxers and humans holding guns
the space marines also fight humans holding guns, and when they walk into them they get squished immediately

>>529671310
We did RNG loot for like 2 years and it was fucking dogshit. You should be playing the game because you enjoy the gameplay not because you want to roll for a 1/100 chance at a weapon with +2.7% more damage while bleeding and staggered and upside down

>>529671772
back to discord, tranny

>>529671415
I love the fact that this is canon.

>>529670473
Paypigs in Space Marine 2 get the privilege of also having to grind out colors they paid money for

>>529670013
darktide arbites can facetank as long as they're hitting something with their sticks while space marines have to roll like gymnasts for everything

>>529671037
Because if the 'nids died fast, then they would need to pour in more enemies at once to attempt to provide a similar challenge, and SM2 is a consoloid game. So they resorted to the Quake method. There's your answer.

>>529671846
back to discord, tranny

>x is the strongest faction in 40k!
They all have a super powerful last resort gambit that will no-sell the others and cement their hegemony over the galaxy.
Slaanesh will no nothing and win.
Ynnead will destroy chaos as soon as the last knife-ear bites it.
The Emperor will die, finally ascend as a fully-fledged god and destroy chaos.
The necrons will pull yet another reality anchor out of their chrome ass and starve chaos.
The orks will turn back into krorks and steamroll everyone.
The tau will birth a busty goddess that will unite the galaxy with love, respect, tolerance and understanding.
The tyranids will keep on going, business as usual.

telopots disc now banning random people cause they think it's me lmao
whoever said its gonna cause paranoia bans was spot on

>>529672463
keep us updated
we don't care

>>529661372
I'm testing it on a plague ogryn and it works just fine, I keep doing the proper damage past 5 seconds, and debuff indicator says that skullcrusher and concussive both are applied

>>529672437
Tau already birthed their goddess of the Greater Good, which created a schism where the auxiliaries want to worship it while Ethereals want to suppress it even if they must genocide their auxiliaries, but their top soldier Shadowsun has become the goddess' chosen and has allowed the auxiliaries to worship it.

>>529672804
I thought the tau had no warp connection, how would a warp entity made by their foreign legion be able to communicate with one of them

>>529670013
The random human shitters in SM2 that you can kill just by running through them are the dregs and scabs of Darktide. The heavy-ass boltgun in Darktide is the equivalent of the basic pistol. A single Rubric Marine would be roughly the equivalent of a Darktide boss.

I don't think the marines in SM2 feel particularly weak, but the design is inferior to Darktide's so certain situations force you to do goofy shit like rollspamming or cover-peekaboo to survive. Against hordes of common melee mooks, the astartes are an unbeatable force, but just like in lore, if the enemy has ranged ordnance with enough punch, they will take off the head of an Emperor's chosen, just like an astartes would do the same to an unwary chaos warrior in the open. It's not unheard off of a lucky guardsman or a well-placed rocketeer managing to pop a chaos marine.

>>529672463
Keep me updated, I care and find it hilarious.

>>529672463
Are you the one reporting ppl using slurs?

>>529672005
I am at this point half-seriously expecting Grendyl to be in league with Tzeentch and using Sefoni to channel warp magic buffs up our asses.

>>529673069
It's formed by their warp sensitive cuck allies.

>>529673353
Just say humans. It was humans. It's always humans.

>>529673353
that's what I said, but how is a tau warrior a warp entity's chosen when he can't even interact with it

Dorn make sure you ping me and then a mod too, make sure to self congratulate after too
tick tock

>discordtroons arrive
welcome to the thread

40k writing has gone down the gutter, dont think about it

>>529673634
You are the discord-troon, anon.

>>529673659
>whining about new thing
>look inside
>women
are you gay

>>529673090
It's still a fact that Rubric Marines are much tankier than the Space Marines you play in SM2. They don't need to roll dodge to be able to tank your entire Bolter. But you can't tank their Bolter without folding in one second.

>>529673090
>>529673804
sm2 feels like shit. i have no fucking clue how anybody plays it

>>529673659
Interesting opinion. What is the last book from Black Library that you read?

>>529671037
I swear that game makes any non parry/counter attack do a quarter of the damage.
Then there's also just the progression system of that game ensuring that you'll always be using weapons slightly too weak for your difficulty until you have everything maxed.

>>529673232
Berther is it you?

>>529673069
They have a *weak* warp connection, not the same as having none, their knowledge of the warp and how it works is... lacking to say the least.
They used to not know shit about it but they've done experiments with captured imperial tech and it went about as well as you'd expect, plus the Death Guard showed up out of nowhere to give them a crash course in chaos corruption.

>>529674180
Yeah, it's me. Watchagonnadoaboutit BITCH?

>>529673440
She just is. The goddess Tau'va saved Shadowsun during her training under Puretide, and again during the 5th Sphere Expansion against the Death Guard, having become strong enough to trap some Death Guard in the Warp and starve them of its effects.

>>529674180
>reverse false flagging to appear as if your enemies are trying to divert attention away from them, when it actually, really is you
Clever, but I see through your ruse.

>>529674180
Lmao panic some more fags. I always thought the whole discord trannies posting on /coopg/ was a myth but it seems I have your whole attention now

>>529673804
The rubric marines shoot some tzeentchian sorcery bullshit barbs. They could also be protected by some warp nonsense. It's not that immersion-breaking, especially if you count the second-highest difficulty as the canon vibe.

>>529672463
>telopots disc now banning random people cause they think it's me lmao
But why? For what purpose?
Did you do something that Telopots didn't like?

>>529673756
>>women
???
wrong anon, retard
>>529674013
It was the Lion coming back novel
it was shit, honestly
I fondly remember reading Legion, Mechanicum and Servants of the Machine God, but those were pre 2010s/2020s (machine god released in 2018, legion and mechanicum in 2008 iirc)

>>529673347
unless a certain psyker persona and the havoc mods have pointed out the toughness system is the emperor's blessing
why is it this hard to imagine a human to ascend to god? especially to fight things

>>529675048
It's the same way in tabletop, Rubric Marines usually have guns that ignore basic marine armor, and have a better save thanks to magic and shit, but being more expensive to field than basic marines/chaos marines and being slower in melee.

>>529675193
Reporting people and now they're trying to find the rat

>>529675506
Why'd they suspect /coopg/?

>>529675656
beats-escapes me

>>529675506
They'll never take me alive.

>>529675246
The Lion: Son of the Forest was the name

>>529670013
Because space marines are fighting against actually horrifying enemies, like they are meant to be doing. SM2 has regular humans in the game (equivelant to dregs and scabs), you literally kill them just by walking/sprinting into them.
Tyranids on the other hand are bio-engineered super predators who constantly evolve to match their enemy and over come the enemy's defences or offence. Like genestealers tear space marine terminators (THE BEST personal armor imperium can muster, which is retardedly durable and protective) apart with their bare hands.

Killing some random dipshit cultists and some disgruntled traitor guard, is hardly space marine business, unless cult starts to summon greater daemons in mass.

>>529675506
Let them come.

>advert for the fucking game in the fucking game launcher
what do you want from me obese fish? buy the game again for 60% off?

Remember to slap the psykers ass when they do a good job. They appreciate it even if they don't admit it.

>>529675506
Reporting people for what? To Fatshark about NDA breaches?
Over all just seems really weird, but not surprising. I avoid youtuber discords and public discords in general because of shit like this.

>>529676129
It's there to remind you to tell other people about the sale.

>>529676129
tell your friends, dumbass. it's a co-op game.

>>529676163
what is this quirky reddit chungus line supposed to achieve, tranny? fucking hell go back

>>529676129
to tell your friends... you have those right anon

>>529676036
>Look inside Space Hulk 2
>Genestealer cultists can damage terminators with autoguns
lol

>>529662296
Yeah, it's just that they're Chaos corrupted Nurglites, so they're not going to be sexy.

>>529676319
Try saying that again but without buzzwords please.

>>529676193
anything that goes against discord tos
I'm having fun especially because their immediate reaction proves they're here and reading this

>>529676631
I hope you really fuck them up and bring darktide e-celeb shitposting to an end.

>>529670013
Because it's a video game and you're supposed to feel like that.

>>529676763
if you're bored like me get in there and report people too, I got the invite link off his youtube and it works as of today

>>529676631
post a screen I want to see them getting pissed lol

Someone give me a regular ole' Lasgun build. Blessings included please. I'm tired of using autoguns all the time as a guardsman.

>>529676631
Would really like to see what they're saying but I obviously won't join the server for it.

>>529670013
As a person who likes both:
In general, the scale of a threat marines are dealing with is much larger, as you are blasting through literal hordes on nid warriors, lictors, rubrics, sorcerers and terminators, on top of your usual chaff. Like a 1k sons sorcerer or a biovore would be an equivalent of an Orthus Offensive boss, scale-wise.
However, the problem is that the defensive design of SM2 combat makes you feel much weaker than a reject in DT. At the end of the day, while the enemies in SM2 are much larger, we are also playing as marines, which means that from a gameplay feel perspective- the combat feels exactly the same, but not really, since your weapons are less deadly and enemies are tankier, which leads to your characters feeling much weaker than they are. SM2 in general has asinine class, enemy and weapon balance. Like it's way worse than DT as far as player power balance is concerned.

>>529676610
the important thing was that you should stop using this site

>>529676631
Lmao, that's pretty funny

Which Abhuman you want next?

>>529677415
your mom

>>529677308
I disagree. I like this site, and the people on it. I think I will stay.

>>529677415
the goats.

>>529677415
Roll these out with an update that fixes the dogshit sound mixing.

>>529677415
Felinids of course! Update when?
>:3c

>>529677415

>>529677789
fixes the mixing but only for them cause giant ears

>>529677789
Oh good idea.
They're cute

>>529677968
CUTE!

>>529677968
Can that PC run doom?

>>529677789
>>529677968
I'm all ears.

>>529678134
Can servitor skulls dream of doom?

>>529677415
I want them to do Felinids, as the only class with hot women and hot faces. And make them the usual non-furry catgirls.
I want it purely for the redditors' seething, as the DLC will top the charts.
Also having non-tranny faces for women would be nice. I hate that they all look like tranny crack addicts.

>>529677291
/thread
It's seriously insane how fucking bad the balance of that game is. Only Tactical and Heavy are allowed to have decent TTKs on Absolute. Also the absolutely retarded gunstrike and execution mechanics constantly taking your control away like it's Doom 2016, except the glory kills take thrice longer. Just a terrible game.

>>529677847
How would they differ from vets besides the obvious melee flurry ability (10 seconds, each kill gives 50 toughness, attacks do double damage)

>>529676631
If you were smart, you'd pretend like they just caught you and banned you. Now they will keep looking

>>529677192
I use this. You have 2 extra points. You could also take kraks if you're bad at dealing with armor with your melee.
https://darktide.gameslantern.com/build-editor?id=9f4bd42a-7380-41b3-85a9-9c4ea2e47da3

>>529678410
I want them to keep looking

Disgusting.

>trying way too hard to belong, walking flanderization of 4chan culture
>incredibly insecure about their skills, builds and havoc performance
>will loudly and confidently parrot misinfo
>will mock any percieved error or weakness
go away tourists

>>529677141
>>529677196
Still no screens, anon is a liar and a faggot.

>>529678402
You're thinking too small.
Felinids will be actually good melee psyker.

>>529678623
Post screenshots of them getting mad already. I believe you 95% because it's incredibly plausible and some other things you said were verifiably true, but no proofs makes me have to assume you're a fag

>discord troons start to spam degen coombait on the double
It's afraid.

>>529676631
So your big brain idea was to bring some random people here? Who may end up just shitting up the thread?

I just wanna talk Darktide shop, not get in fights with discords because someone had a axe to grind.

>>529678402
>Slayer leap(Pounce 2 charges)
>Piss vision but with speed and melee boosts
>Grail knight stab but with power claws or something idk.
Ezpz

>>529679063
Did someone say shop?

>>529678556
>marksman's focus
worrying about keeping this up sucks the fun out of the game for me, but I'll give it another shot. thanks.

>>529678365
>shits out the most normie opinion drivel possible
>whines about reddit
These normies-in-denial are such sad cases.

Also, the correct way to do felinids is to make them Dungeon-meshi cat girls (clearly human-infused, but still feline distortion in facial proportions and maybe full body fur.

>>529679063
they were already here posting screens of their posts on their tranny discord retard

>>529679528
>feline distortion in facial proportions
anon you don't realise how absolutely cursed this would look if it was photorealistic and not a manga

>>529679064
Sounds cool, I'm in.

>>529678995
>coombait
Where? The first coombait I get when scrolling up is >>529668185

>>529679528
Don't try to deflect, nigger, I see through your faggoty bullshit.
>normie
Yeah, you're not fooling me.

>>529678365
>>529679708
What the fuck would the point of felinids be otherwise?
>I want cat people but without the cat

>>529678921
Melee Psyker?
But felinids aren't psychically strong... huh?

>>529679708
It'd look better than a normal person with stapled on cat ears

>>529679708
Somehow less cursed than the live action Cats musical

>>529680009
that's a low bar

>tfw going easy on my wallet during this sale cause I know I'll have to buy killing floor 3
inb4 bro just don't do it
I NEED TO BE THERE, I NEED TO SEE IT WITH MY OWN EYES

>>529678976
here's them trying to find me and banning people in a hurry just now, pinging the mod with random names so he can ban them

>>529679987
What pattern of ... vaguely bolter shaped box is that filthy abhuman holding?

>>529679238
what a neck jiggle

>>529680157
Lasgun with retractable stock maybe?

>>529679987
Have you seen a cat that tried tearing your face off? Those things don't play.
They also, canonically, have long extendable claws.

>>529679292
I don't really worry about it, I just shoot heads. you can take the thing that makes you generate stacks when standing still and really not worry

>discord namefag drama
Yeah, I guess it's time to do chores.

>>529680157
She's holding a CU-83 pattern lasgun, obviously.

>>529679950
>I want cat people but without the cat

>>529680150
I don't know how reporting in discord works, but if there's any way to add a description to your report, make sure you report the people trying to weed out the imposter and describe how they're trying to ban someone for filing reports. That is obviously such a bad look and might get the entire discord canned. If that doesn't work, and you're autistic enough, maybe open a support ticket talking about this.

A platform's terms of service are obviously to be respected and upheld!

>>529680548
Your boneless chi- I mean your catless felinid, sir.

>>529680009
I never understood the hystery over that movie. The CGI was kinda shit in some scenes, but I just saw CGI versions of stage musical cat suits.

>>529678365
Felinids should just be Na'vi.

>>529680494
Same. here's hoping it calms down.

>https://streamable.com/qk1qgx
Thought you pressed F?
WRONG!

>>529680747
He literally wants just short girls with cat ears on top of their skulls. A tasteless shitter.

When will get actual fucking content. Where are the new maps for fucks sake

>>529680836
They initially released a version where the CGI was uh... not really present?

It was me, I reported him

>>529681059
This pic is exactly what I have in mind. Thank you for helping me illustrate what I want.

>>529681168
Actually it was me...

>>529681086
just sent them check your mailbox ;)

>>529681058
>UI mods
>health bars
>AoE hazard indicators
Hows your HRT going?

>>529680869
>night vision
the entire planet glows in the dark wtf

>>529678365
Just make Felinids look like this.

>>529681285
Right. Do know that it's a dude, though.

>>529681331
wow this ogryn is filthy rich!

>>529681538
sex

>>529681331
>Havoc-Forged

>>529681563

>>529681563
It is absolutely fine by me, but thanks for the warning.

While the gaming industry is collapsing, fatshark THRIVES

>>529681538

>>529681780
>While the gaming industry is collapsing
just bloated AAA company bubbles that are popping. Let them die. It's good.

>FIRE
DEATH
>RENEWAL

>>529680936
>>529680494
See y'all next month, the tourists should be gone by then.

>>529681864
Both cats lose to human cock.

>>529681563
still would

>For The Emperor mod is dead
>missing commands on the wheel for some reason, will never be updated
>the people who have been updating it will never share
>because their version includes VACUUM CAPSULE
tiresome

>>529681780
>AAA swindlers
>the gaming industry
They wish

>>529682378
what commands are missing?

>>529678635
why does she have a fork

>>529679569
>actually good at the game tier
>reginald
makes me lose every time

>>529683038
It's a running gag in warhammer novels about guardsmen

>>529683212
That nigga lookin zesty

Ok I'm pissed

>Try an Auric since I don't do it often
>It's hard but we're managing
>Tail end, I clinch the final objective and everyone else is dead. I'm trying to run for the raptor
>Get fucked over by server lag

What *IS* causing this? I've NEVER had this issue at all until the Arby DLC dropped. Are the servers really shitting their diapers because people are coming in?

>>529683423
i get this maybe once per day and it only lasts a few seconds. And yes i didn't experience this before

Help I think Telopots and his serbian death squad finally found me... I'm hidden in my bathroom but I'm not su-ACK!

>>529683038
They're glutons on par with Ogryn.
Even though they're 1/3rd the size.

>>529683212
huh, reminds me that power fists for normal humans exist, wander if we'll ever get one of those.

>>529683378
what

>>529683527
it happens often. not alot per match, but often enough overall that I have to stomp my feet and ask, no really, what is the problem?

I've verified the game from the launch and steam and that didn't do it. My internet is fine, I know that.

>>529683754
for veteran and arbites, almost assuredly with those vet weapons they were saying were coming soon

>>529683559
Nah I've just been silently reporting away
wrote a report for the whole channel and hit his twitch with some interesting off-site behavior reports

>>529683179
>Ranjeetinald
>Good at the game
Kek

>>529683796
The dark skinned gentleman is looking extremely homosexual, and that anon is lusting after him.

>>529683423
I get the lag when someone joins or leaves like it used to, but otherwise fine

>>529683796
He's got a little sugar in his tank.

WTF GUYS TELOPOTS JUST FLEW OVER MY HOUSE WHAT IS HAPPENING????

>remake my black female professional vet into a white loose cannon male
>every single vet in my game from that on is a loose cannon male

>>529682780
need health, thank you, enemy over there, and look there
I'm thinking the issue is with the icons because you can still bind keys and get those voice commands through it
if no one else has this issue then I'm thinking it's darktide mod framework saving very old settings for the mod, how the fuck do you delete them

>>529684876
Should have gone for Cutthroat female. The cutest of the squad

>>529685049
This. Based and Cacadiapilled

>>529684664
You're shitting up the thread with your fight no one else is caring about? Trying to seek validation?

>>529684876
Why was she black in the first place

>>529685159
ok Supra, play with the balls now, use your tongue

>accidentally ogryn carry a game again

>>529684876
Loose Cannon is the most fun voice. That said I did change my pissy Male Psyker into a cute french girl because I got tired of the bitchiness.

>>529683796
>>529684207
>>529684435

>>529683796
https://youtu.be/91-7TWmO1e8?si=D3281mUwClr3c5o-

>>529684903
does your wheel not look like this? mine has those

>>529681864
Hot. Both could fit. I want both. Sex with both.

>>529685720
mine doesn't. Is this a mod?

>>529681168
>>529681304
Hydra dominatus...

>>529685831
It's a mod, he's retarded. It's called ForTheEmperor

I WANT TO PLAY IN HAVOC!
I WANT TO PLAY IN HAVOC!

>>529685720
The "yes", "no", and "I need help" are not on the default wheel.

>>529678134
That's not a PC. Its a servo visualizer meant for helping them discern sound waves

>>529684903
>>529685720
fuck me, it was the last option
the mod framework appends your mod settings to your user_settings.config in appdata/roaming/fatshark/darktide and mine were fucked up from like a year ago when I messed around with it
no way to know this was the problem or fix it from the mod settings UI lmao, resetting did nothing

>>529685934
sorry, we already have one in the party

>>529686043
That's an ogryn!

>>529685997
I know, but I thought you were saying they aren't on for the emperor

>>529681379
Yeah that’s weird lol

>>529685286
Why wouldn't she be black?

>>529685286
Fem Professional's VA is actually black

>>529671415
Good attempt Pablo. Some more English lessons and you’ll be there.
>>529672005
>>529673347
>>529675253
It’s exaggerative. Yeah we’re prisoners with low level equipment but you have to remember we’re also canonically mistaken as a large scale engagement force and that can be rationalized by the fact our characters come from different backgrounds. Also Ogryns and Psykers on our level tend to be massive force multipliers, seems like a lot of people forget this.

>>529665048
Discord troons are always a weird lot. That certainly explains what went on a few weeks ago though...

>>529686159
Well... you know....

>Join game
>2 ogryns
>Boom boom boom boom boom boom
I forgot how unfun it is.

>>529687223
You forgot
>all of the ammo on the map magically evaporates

>>529662296
You need to open your eyes and clear your ears

>>529685934
Why wouldn't you want the do-it-all class in your team?

>>529679987
I don't know about that. We just know they're killing machines. Also they should rightfully need a lot of leg strength and shit if they want to move like a cat

>>529672057
I mean, it just seems a little dishonest when they were the ones who were making a big fuss over how many Tyranids they can have active on screen at once

>>529687675
Zealots have the best lines.

>>529687675
>no piss toughness
>no bubble
>no relic
Shock mine is great but if you already have someone running it on your team having two is overkill.

These are my only remaining Arbites penances.
:3c

>>529687854
>noooo I need my crutches
seems whoever you declined dodged a bullet

>>529687878
>46/100
it's gonna take weeks but you'll get there

>>529687854
>he doesn't know about the Cunny Aquilla

>>529686023
Ok, but can it run doom?

>>529688007
Okay then play with no abilities, no talents, no weapon upgrades, no dodging, no blocking, no ranged weapons, no melee weapons, no characters, no screen, no computer.

>>529687223
>get biggest box of hurt in mortis trials
>the game is over, my team doesn't need to be here, 1 million damage easily

>>529687675
>the do-it-all class
It doesn't prevent wipes in truly horrible situations like a zealot does by pressing F, and if that doesn't work, pressing F again anyway because martyr's purpose exists. Meanwhile, zealot doesn't perform that much worse in otherwise favorable situations.

>>529688054
Cunny Aquila doesn't stop the 5 crusher overheads from nailing you into the ground when you're in a corner and have nowhere to dodge to, and that's just one example. Even if it is bugged to be three times as powerful as intended.

>>529688258
holy shit you definitely got carried to 40

>>529677415
I want sex with all of them. Then we will find out which ones can interbreed with people.

Arbites players have to be the biggest niggers in the game right now
>no cooperation
>one man army so to each their own
>never share ammo or med crates
>never say gg

Giganiggers enabled by the absolute retarded p2w class they just got holy subhumans

>>529688258
>Cunny Aquila doesn't stop the 5 crusher overheads
So you REALLY don't know about the bug lol. Shitter.

>>529688309
And I keep "getting carried" with a great win rate with numerous deathless runs, and am constantly at havoc 40, while discordtrannies like you assume that true survivor is impossible to achieve without cheesing or whatever other faggot shit your estrogen-addled brain makes up.

>>529688475
>literally acknowledges it in the same post
Meds.

>>529677291
What the hell is this thirdie schizo webm its awesome

>>529688163
Nooo, ogryn my CPU can't take it, AIEEE

>>529688475
what you should focus on is that getting cornered and then hit by 5 crushers is a worry he has

>>529688348
>never share ammo
Sorry but my shotgun is the most powerful weapon in this game, ammo is mine.

>>529688348
I'm doing better with this ammo than you are

>>529688348
THE LEX BADE ME CLAIM IT

>>529688348
That's just new/bad players in general. That they're playing the babbymode class is inconsequential to their retardation.

>>529688906
Sometimes I seem to have the opposite problem, these people are on orange ammo and they just won't take the ammo I keep marking for them.

>>529688258
>5 crusher overheads from nailing you into the ground when you're in a corner and have nowhere to dodge to
Does that happen to you often?

>>529670013
Because they did a piss poor job of making you actually feel like a Space Marine, they took away the self sufficient of the first game that allowed you to truck on through by removing the ‘regain health by killing enemies’ mechanic, so you’re constantly threatened and running around like a bitch. God only knows what possessed them to remove it but the first game actually fulfills the power fantasy better as a result of it.
>>529676036
>Like genestealers tear space marine terminators
Only the higher up Genestealers do this. Your rank and file can’t. Genestealer Patriarchs and the like specifically.
>in mass
*en masse

>>529676129
>>529676301
>>529676316
>>529676351
kek'd

>>529676129
you can vote but you're not registered

>end Havoc game with second lowest damage on my flamer zealot
I don't know how much of that was me doing stuff wrong, but I will say that competing with two other people for ammo fucking sucks. Guess it doesn't help that a lot of my burn damage isn't going through because the other two were shooting that stuff too. I hate relic build, mostly because I feel like I'm never using it as ideally as I could be.

>>529689434
you're just here to carry the relic

>>529689434
You're the flamer and relic bot
You're there to help the champ, not take the gold

>>529689434
You're going into this with wrong assumptions.
For one, having low damage on relic zealot isn't strictly a bad thing. If the other players are using the ammo well, you're not expected to have particularly high damage. As long as you're picking off gunners and thinning out dense hordes with flamer, you're doing your job. You remembered to bring purity aura, yes?
For two, I get the impression that you're randomly slotting a flamer zealot into the team without discussing team composition and who gets to take ammo. Never bring more than two classes that need ammo pickups, unless one of them is a veteran, and even then it's questionable unless those guns are ammo efficient. The damage you're expected to deal is almost directly proportional with how much ammo the team is feeding you, which is also proportional to how much infinite cleave aoe clear the team needs, and whether the team has some form of brittleness. Psyker can apply it. Flamer can apply it if you don't need the strength blessing for killing bosses.

Or, in practical terms, you should either be #1-2 in damage, behind only the psyker or the dedicated DPS chad zealot, or expect to be near the bottom, depending entirely on how much ammo you get.

>>529673659
it was never great for the most part but same goes for a lot of stuff
>>529673929
they don’t it’s a dead game

any relic blade builds you guys run? what blessings do i get?

>>529689842
You're there to give the gold to the champ.

>bring psyker to havoc
>everyone expects you to be the bubblecuck and will cry if you bring anything else
>bring zealot to havoc
>everyone expects you to spend the entire mission spamming relic rather than playing the game
>bring arbitrator to havoc
>nobody will even let you into their lobbies in the first place
Ogryn and Vet it is, I guess

5% on kill (base)
5% on close kill
10% on stagger
10% on elite kill
10% on perfect block
15% on marked kill (exec order)

5% per second on stamina loss
5% per second near the dog
5% per second on block
2.5% per second on elite kill
2% per second on pounced kill
up to 5% per second (forceful)

If the stars align, with one push attack you could recover 40-55% toughness with a further 19.5-24.5% toughness per second, discounting the abilities.

>>529690096
Actually i'm the chimp
*throws my shit in your face*

>>529690180
>Vet
Hum why are you not carrying a plasma gun? REQUEST DENIED!

>>529678365
Agreed. I can dig it.
>>529678402
Let them scale up the geography of the map with ease. Give them a short lasting boost in speed. Also give them a super jump.

>>529690180
>bring vet
>have to run VOC, plasma and ammo or you get declined
>bring ogryn
>can do anything you want and you will bring value as long as you don't die
>bring arbitrator
>can do anything you want and you will bring value as long as you don't die
why I only play the frontliners

>>529689535
>>529689842
>>529690023
It just feels like I should be doing more. It's hard going from high-speed blending in Aurics to the support role after not having played it for a good long while.
Also, how's TWBS in high havocs? Not being able to be interrupted out of relic would be nice, but it's not something that happens often anyway since it's mostly just monstrosities that could get through the stagger. I'm having a hard time deciding between it and Martyr's Purpose. MP seems like it'd be better for when shit's getting really bad.
>You remembered to bring purity aura, yes?
Not in that game. I had it on initially, but they wanted Benediction instead. I have builds for both though, yeah.
>For two, I get the impression that you're randomly slotting a flamer zealot into the team without discussing team composition and who gets to take ammo
Yeah, there wasn't much of a discussion in general. We had a flame Psyker, but I remember 40s back when Havoc released frequently doubling up on flame sources, typically either double Purg Psyker or Purg+Flamer.

>>529690180
>t. havoc 20-30
I see and win with a relevant number of non-bubble psykers and non-relic zealots in my havoc 40s, though the people I play with generally do just reject arbitrators.
>>529690338
Same for veterans. Plasma is fine, but the best veterans I've played with all used bolter or bolt pistol for reasons this general will never understand no matter how earnestly I try to explain, so I'm just going to preemptively call you a nigger.

>>529690328

>>529678921
>filename
Jej

>>529690625
>for reasons this general will never understand no matter how earnestly I try to explain
Telopots was right about /coopg/

>>529690625
>Plasma is fine, but the best veterans I've played with all used bolter or bolt pistol for reasons this general will never understand no matter how earnestly I try to explain, so I'm just going to preemptively call you a nigger.
Explain. I assume it's because you can more rapidly stabilize moments of density+monsters more easily with bolter dumping than plasma, but that wouldn't explain the bolt pistol. Don't be a faggot and assume everyone's some terminal shitposter that refuses to learn

>>529681780
>the end of Xbox
We can only hope

>>529681686
>>529681698
>>529682238
dont be gay

Where should I put my 2 remaining points for a Tactical Axe build?

>>529690625
Plasma is objectively the better weapon for anything but boss-killing. Bolt Pistol is fine but it's not something you run when you really want to win. Those Vets are running something other than Plasma because they already did the climb, and you can't lose rank when you're 40, so they just play with anything they want now. I assure you they used Plasma or pre-mades to climb.

>>529690969
If he looks enough like a girl, I'll gladly fag it up, and you can't stop me

>>529691124
toughness regen on stamina and movement speed on dog pounce

>random auric
>get twins
AAAAAAAAAAA

>>529691124
True grit
You'll need it

not gonna lie, beetus class died off faster than i thought, boring desu

>>529690969

>>529690625
>20-30
I'm 34 currently but can never get anyone equal to/higher than me to join my lobbies
It's gonna take forever to hit 40 with pubs

>>529690607
>It's hard going from high-speed blending in Aurics to the support role after not having played it for a good long while.
It's an entirely different playstyle to the point of effectively being a different class entirely.
>how's TWBS in high havocs?
TWBS has always been good, but good luck finding the points for it and still getting the talents you actually need. I was told very, very long ago that TWBS is a crutch and that I shouldn't learn to play zealot with it, and whoever said that was correct. It's lovely being able to run through fire, but I can just pop relic, or take health damage and then pop relic anyway. It's just not needed.
Martyr's Purpose offers better stability by virtue of bailing you out of most fuck-ups, whether on your part or someone else's. It's undeniably worse when things are going according to plan, but that only happens with genuinely good players. I usually play with randoms, and can't guarantee that.

>>529690949
Do the math on deadshot and marksman's focus holding a bolter/pistol with surgical, and how long, and how many shots it takes to kill a reaper. Now imagine that guy permanently has a zealot attached to him keeping every enemy away and clearing out any horde that would otherwise become a problem. Incoming bullets stop existing, everything else ranged is blocked by psyker bubble. Horde clear plain and simple shouldn't be the veteran's job. Frags are good but even krak grenades fill a much more valuable niche. It's too complex to explain in simple enough terms for the veritable ogryns in this general to understand, and half of the replies are bound to be bait or hardstuckies.

>>529691150
>I assure you they used Plama or pre-mades
Most people I play with almost exclusively play with randos, and the veterans using what you would call meme-builds because you can't walk without your crutches, are better players than even myself and I'm not afraid to admit it.

>>529688579
>the chink name walks off into the corner and stares
>realize he's trying to avoid it crashing him
lmao

>>529691289
>movespeed on pounce
explain why this is worth the point it costs

>>529691673
>It's gonna take forever to hit 40 with pubs
That's strange because the last havoc seasonal reset was on a Monday, and I hit havoc 40 (own assignment) that week's Tuesday night, and I barely played a dozen games. I originally got my True Survivor with randos, though admittedly that was in old havoc which I would argue was easier. But I've also had several deathless h40s since then, in nu havoc.

>>529691730
>I was told very, very long ago that TWBS is a crutch and that I shouldn't learn to play zealot with it
100%. The only reason I was considering it was due to being knocked by monsters/captains out of my relic before. Thanks

>>529691882
you already have a node that gives you +10% movement speed on elite or specialist kill on the top of the tree, if the dog kills any specialist marked by executive order that means you get +20% movement speed
I also recommend you get the -25% damage resistance on specialist/elite kill, next to the ammo talent. That is way more applicable than the -20% damage on staggered enemies that you have selected instead, even if you have to drop the damage aura, you become stupidly tankier as a result for a very minor loss in damage. Very minor stuff thoughever

>>529691882
NTA but
>the dog is constantly pouncing
>makes you go much faster for 1 point
>going faster makes you better at kiting
>bad positioning is what kills you, being fast lets you reach good positions easier
I even miss Rapid Movement sometimes, but it's simply not worth the point.

wait did they change HM in twins?
I got chievo and I could rescue people

>>529691289
>>529691610
Thanks.
I'll try True Grit first. Making use of Weight of the Lex seems easy enough too.

>>529691882
It also gives +10% damage.
The reason I don't like the node is that you only get the buff if the dog pins the target to the floor. You don't get the buff if the dog attacks a monstrosity or ogryn.

>>529692363
>reason I was considering it was due to being knocked by monsters/captains out of my relic
This is just a skill issue. You can USUALLY make that happen by playing better. The distance of the stagger is reasonably large, and with some dodge sliding around, you shouldn't be getting knocked out of it more than maybe twice a game, if that. It's just a matter of learning what things CAN knock you out of it, and making sure not to use relic during.
Also just, y'know, run a max health build with gunner resist and go stand in gunner fire or walk into a flamer puddle for a second if it's really that important to get chorus off. Health becomes an offensive resource with martyr's purpose, and no matter what the hardstuckie retard detractors might say, the +2 wounds talent and taking an intentional knee for a health (and thus cooldown) refund is genuinely useful.

>>529691730
>Marksman's Focus
>Each stack of Focus grants +7.5% Ranged Finesse Strength
hold the fuck up
>stat buffs: ranged_finesse_modifier_bonus
oh they just lied in the description

yeah I don't trust pubbies enough to play 100% range vet

>>529691837
jej

>>529691730
>Do the math on deadshot and marksman's focus ...
Oh, yeah that makes sense.
>It's too complex to explain in simple enough terms for the veritable ogryns in this general to understand, and half of the replies are bound to be bait or hardstuckies.
Did you not already explain it enough for anyone who's actually played high havocs? Dedicated shooter removal isn't a deep concept, and if they're running bolter, they could still help burn monstrosities with it. Kraks taking Crushers out of the mixed horde where flames will kill everything else OR being another option to quickly kill monsters isn't complicated either.
And if you're posting on 4chan and not expecting at least half the people replying to be retarded or pretending to be, I don't know why you bother coming here.

>>529692853
>This is just a skill issue. You can USUALLY make that happen by playing better. The distance of the stagger is reasonably large, and with some dodge sliding around, you shouldn't be getting knocked out of it more than maybe twice a game, if that.
I never said it happened often. It happened once, maybe twice, out of all the Havoc games I've played with relic (a few the last week and a couple dozen when it came out). I just had a few/couple points to float around and remembered that.
>and no matter what the hardstuckie retard detractors might say, the +2 wounds talent and taking an intentional knee for a health (and thus cooldown) refund is genuinely useful.
kek. I just worry what randoms will think when I show up with 4 wounds, but I guess at that point, you're in the game already, and it's too late.

>>529692085
I guess
50% of my missions end up with everyone other than myself and maybe one other person shitting themselves in the first ten minutes or overextending and triggering multiple bosses, which the group then drowns in
The rest run smoothly
Since this update though it's been more like 80% retardation and 20% good matches

>>529692593
Yep, they changed hard mode to allow rescues a while back. Making it easier to grind out a win.

>>529693061
>Did you not already explain it enough for anyone who's actually played high havocs?
Considering the amount of Havoc-Forged shitters we have in this general, who can't possibly fathom that True Survivor is not only possible without cheesing, but even doable with randos? Some people genuinely are constantly carried. You can make them out by their inability to hold a discussion or back up their claims.
>and not expecting at least half the people replying to be retarded
That's not the half of it. Depending on the hour of the day, virtually all havoc-related posts in this general are some of the most retarded shit imaginable. Thing is, we've got a lot of tourists currently, as evidenced by all the retards taking all sorts of bait, and I wouldn't want some bright-eyed new havoclet to get misled by some retarded thirdie parroting what some jewtuber said, or automatically assuming that because something is being discussed to receive a nerf, it has to be the greatest shit ever. The reality is that the actually good shit flies under the radar because players like this dumbfuck general are unironically, genuinely, too low IQ and too low skill to understand it.
I obviously don't bother having a serious conversation with these sub-animal freaks, but it still pisses me off that I have to share the internet with thirdies and droolers.

>>529688348
What >>529688906 said, it's just newcomers and shitters that were going to be shitters even if they didn't buy Arby's.

I'm enjoying Arby but still being a good team mate because, this is /coop/, fucking duh. I've been playing COOP games since L4D1. I've played L4D2, Helldivers 2, Deep Rock Galactic, Sea of Thieves, Killing Floors 1 and 2, Darktide, and Vermintide 2.

after well over 10 years of all of that, you'd think I wouldn't know a thing about "Teamwork makes the dreamwork".

Why am I the first one pushing as vet or psyker?
Fuck right off

There's been surprisingly few dog sex jokes in the arbitrator/dog names I'm seeing in the hub/lobbies
Though an unsurprisingly high number of judge dredd jokes

>>529694256
Nobody is forcing you to push, big boy

PSA to concussive users:
Important pedantry
Description states:
"Melee Weakspot hits make the enemy count as Staggered for 4s."
not
"Melee Weakspot hits stagger the enemy for 4s"
Why is this important?
Because half of what people assume benefit from concussive do not.
Things like the Opportunist blessing on the shield maul do benefit, as it is vs Staggered enemies.
Things like Hold the Line and Suppression Force do not, as you have to actually stagger an enemy for the talent to take effect, not just make an enemy count as staggered.

>>529693324
>I just worry what randoms will think when I show up with 4 wounds,
I think I've only gotten a comment once? And I don't even remember if that was someone I knew, discussing what build I was using. Nobody comments on it. I assume they just use a mod to inspect my build and figure I'm doing some crazy off-meta shit. From my experience, the people doing crazy off-meta shit are usually absolute gods of having unexpected impact and often carry the game. I don't think I'm that guy, but my build certainly works, else I wouldn't be using it.

>>529693384
>50% of my missions end up with everyone other than myself and maybe one other person shitting themselves in the first ten minutes or overextending and triggering multiple bosses, which the group then drowns in
>The rest run smoothly
That's about par for the course when playing with shitters, but mostly symptomatic of the 30-40 havoc range. In my post-reset climb back up to 40, I also had a small handful of players that obviously never reached 40 before due to significant skill issues, EXACTLY as you said, including some overextending tard triggering 2 back to back boss spawns and then panicking. If you are actually better than the average tard, my most useful advice would be to get on that shit as soon as you physically can, because the good players are going to climb out of the trenches real fucking fast, and leave all the shitters behind.
This has been true from day 1. Climbing havoc becomes exponentially more difficult the more time passes, because good players just abandon the lower difficulties entirely.

>>529694689
>Things like hold the line and suppression force do not benefit
You can just go into the Psykhanium for ten fucking seconds and look at your buff bar to see this is wrong

>>529694689
You just got btfo >>529694937

>>529694689
Melee hits against enemy weakspots apply a debuff that makes the target count as being staggered for 4s; can be refreshed during active duration. Can also be applied with melee special actions of ranged weapons. This debuff allows Arbitrator's Breaking Dissent, Final Warning, Force of Will, Forceful, Hold the Line, Strike Down, Suppression Force, and Target the Weak to proc consistently against any debuffed target as if the target had been put into staggered state before.

>>529694689
is this the new light attack/krak grenade/ wildfire meme?

Just in case anyone thought the anti-concussion discussion was genuine and honest
>>529694689

It's obviously just bullshitting retards trying to mislead people

>>529695249
Concussive is good and mandatory in havoc, and even that is only because Havoc increases enemy hit mass and stagger resistance in the challenge mode.

Concussive is not needed on aurics. You CAN However run it for great effect, but you already reliably stagger everything so it's more or less waste of a point.

>people stand in front of the elevator in the torrent
>they all obviously die
thankfully the spawn is directly at the top, even if i did have to fight through a histg horde spawn

would people seethe if I would name my dog sexus minoris 12?

>>529695759
>declining invites
bitch

>>529695898
>ESL
>pedo
yeah, checks out

>>529694083
>words words words
Okay but Marksman's Focus still is a DOGSHIT keystone.

>>529695898
No, because the game won't allow you to name it that in the first place

>>529690180
>>everyone expects you to spend the entire mission spamming relic rather than playing the game
Only had this happen once with a russian ogryn in a H+35 or so.

>no eldar character
sad

>>529693324
take the charge and kill enemies, chorus retard. LIterally gameplay cucks who want a team to do the job for them

>>529692363
I take TWBS so there's no risk of me being bopped while doing objectives.
And sometimes to save me from gunners.

>>529696292
if you use cyrillic characters it probably allows it

>>529695194
>This debuff allows Arbitrator's Breaking Dissent, Final Warning, Force of Will, Forceful, Hold the Line, Strike Down, Suppression Force, and Target the Weak to proc consistently against any debuffed target
Just have an ogryn with Impactful on the team both auric and havoc, drives the same purpose honestly.

>>529696541
It doesn't
I tried

>>529696270
>Marksman's Focus still is a DOGSHIT keystone
In theory. Then you take a step back and see the bigger picture about how in a lot of practical situations, when the fighting ACTUALLY happens in h40, you're likely either holding a position, or moving very slowly. Camouflage is allowed to shine here. I admit it's pretty hard to get out of the aurics mindset where everyone is constantly zooming around, but in havoc, you can actually afford to have a bodyguard assigned to you, and not move.
>TL;DR
Camouflage enables it, because standing still happens more often in h40 than you might think. Headshot damage become the big number.

>>529696440
People who think having an eldar around humans would be cool have no idea how eldar view 40k humans.

>>529696440
too pretty for darktide

>>529696741
but can you afford ammo to shoot around in h40?

>>529696938
>every other class has different names for everyone else
>the eldar just calls everyone mon'keigh
>everyone else has bonding dialogue
>the eldar just monologues on his hatred of humanity while everyone stays silent
I don't see the problem, if anything fatshark would think of it as a cost saving measure.

>>529697071
Just bolt things in the head, you 1-tap everything. It's veteran, so yeah.

This thing still seems unresonably strong. It can even shred crushers with the brittleness talent.

>>529696938
They view humans the same way wood elves view humans in fantasy. Not to mention there's a wide spectrum of eldar/human relations. Most of the major storylines in current 40k lore has Eldar characters hanging around the named characters for one reason or another.

>>529697416
it can only kill one thing at a time

>>529697296
>I don't see the problem
I do. That shit would extremely stale and boring very fast.

>>529697375
Or, I take the mark and benefit everyone when fighting monstrosities, captains and such while not necessarily wasting ammo.

>>529697416
I have a bias against "normal" weapons.
I feel like if I'm in the far future I should be using a laser beam.

>>529697635
Mark is good too. Both are good. People just shit on MF for no reason.

>>529697709
I feel you. I'm usually a huge energy weapon enjoyer, but I just can't stand them in Darktide. I do way better with conventional guns. If I could run a recon las that had all the stats of the Vraks IAG I'd play it non stop.

>>529697765
Because it's the
>Just don't miss (and/or just don't miss the head)
keystone in the same vein as many talent choices are
>Just don't get hit

>>529694937
>>529695114
>>529695194
>>529695249
>>529695505
The arbeetus melees have so much innate stagger that you get the stacks most staggering talents anyway.
Though it does allow for max stacks of HtL from one weakspot hit, on crushers at least.
https://files.catbox.moe/puy2uy.mp4

>>529697532
of course a mon'keigh would say that

>>529696440
>He wants to turn the Morningstar into a mini Craftworld full of elves

>>529697509
It's actually even worse, since Aeldari are actually very moral to the point they have to make wholeass personality constructs to protect their real mind from having to interact with how aggressively horrible the galaxy is when they go out to fight, humans are pretty high up that list, an Eldar without their "war mask" on would break down crying just seeing what these retard monkies do to their own kind, we kinda get desensetized to how fucked up just having servitors around is.
Not that this will stop them sacrificing billions of humans if it saves a small pile of soulstones and two eldar.

>>529698317
Yes I do

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>>529698771
>Couldn't sell two copies if you pressed a double album

>>529696938
>how eldar view 40k humans
How would you react if you saw a bunch of maggots crawling towards you? Humans are disgusting on every level possible.

>>529698771
>see post
>go to store page
>immediately lose interest again

>>529699349
It's less them being a lesser species, though that is a factor, and more that they're king shits of one of the most aggressively horrible regimes they've ever seen.
Whenever they have to talk to a human official they feel like they're talking to supernazis.

>>529699496
You don't need to buy the game to get access which is weird cause this allow people that alreaady dunked on the game to do it again or maybe they are confident that this new beta will change their minds?

See any of these people trying to play for a Havoc, make sure to block them.
Psyker went down within the first 30 seconds. Ogryn left within the first minute for no reason. The other Arbitrator ran away and died alone and then immediately ragequit. I solo'd the Beast and then saved the Psyker, with 2 dead bots in my team, and then he immediately goes down after putting down a bubble. These are the people getting carried to high Havocs.

>>529699349
>elves got so hedonistic they literally birthed the demon god of hedonism
>literally all of their souls are sworn to fall into his gaping, toothy anus to be reverse digested for their depravity
>bwaaaaah, the humans are being forced into an intolerant regime to fight on multiple fronts against enemies that can infiltrate and corrupt them (including us) that's so mean!

>>529698238
You only really benefit from concussive when using only light attacks vs ogryns, but you should be using heavies for such targets anyway so it doesn't matter.
Also yeah the 5 stacks on crushers was me glossing over the ending of the ability description.
https://files.catbox.moe/mnd08n.mp4

I want to like Canine Morale, but I just hate the conditional nature of the target needing to be killed by me or my dog. A lot of the time, that shit dies to to other people's cleave (or focused attacks lmao)

>>529700032
>conditional
Your dog is killing an enemy every 2 seconds you're not commanding it

>>529699846
Ogryn had the same idea as you but just bailed, Arbys is high on toughness generation power and the psyker is a hardstuck.

>>529700168
Sometimes, yes.

>>529698771

>>529699923
To be fair, the Elves that like to complain about that are the ones who thought things were getting out of hand and bailed, and have to live with the consequences of it regardless.
Dark Eldar are basically the real continuation of those dickheads.

>>529700769
Its the only thing some people have in their lives

What's a good weapon combo for a combat specialist? Are the combat shotguns any good? Seeing the Arbeetus shred heretics with their fancy shotguns has me envious.

>>529701523
Double barrel/bolt pistol + chainsword/combat axe/knife/dueling sword
Haven't tried buffed shotguns on vet yet but they're decent enough on arbeetus

>>529701523
Double barrel for the one shot surprise blasts. Can't really go wrong with melee. If you got nades to cover your weakness.

What is fatshark cooking up in their unholy swedish offices today anons? Let's hear those guesses. Maps? Weapons? Enemies? Slop?

>>529703089
Vacation.

>>529703089
Pointless modifcations to old maps perhaps, I'm still puzzled about the showers.

>>529703089
the joke that fatshark is working is getting really stale

>>529703089
If they don't release a hotfix for all the shit they broke, I'm gonna, I'm gonna be mad, ok?

>>529703089
It's in the middle of swedish vacation time. They won't be cooking anything for at least another 1-2 months.

>>529703089
You're getting a red variant of the detective coat in the slop store and you WILL like it

>try to play Darktide today
>suddenly every melee hits me mid-dodge, shots register while im sliding/dodging
>constantly surrounded despite positioning decently and checking around me
>get overheaded by a crusher that was literally facing the opposite direction
alright i guess the game's just not playable for me today

>>529703185
I want to know why they added a dome with pillars over the holographic statue. But yes, the very odd, and not simple change to the bathroom area is a fuckin' puzzler. Like, why? No one had ever complained about that area.

>install audible successful dodge just to see how often it really happens
>zealot gets 15% toughness, -75% spread and -50% recoil, and +50% critical and weakspot damage for """performing""" these
>getting perfect dodges off even when I don't even know what is attacking me or an attack had no chance of landing
>it gets so constant and annoying I have to uninstall it
amazing

>>529703089
Gangbanging Catfish

>>529704207
Common knowledge.

I'll cum on your knowledge

f2p bros how much longer before we get some content

>joining friend in Darktide
>puts us into a Heresy mission, I'm like 10 levels below him (ogryn)
>barely getting kills on specials, mostly just meleeing weak mobs
>feels like I'm mostly just tagging along
I can't tell if I'm just stupid or I'm being put into games where my character isn't powerful enough to do shit or I have to build them properly or what

>>529705882
It's faster leveling since Ogryns are so tanky, but yeah low levels suck.

>>529705882
your team is probably good at dealing with all the important stuff without your help. Sounds like you should go into Damnation.

>>529705882
Darktide is easy in the early difficulties due to how high class power has gotten.
Paradoxically, class power only peaks in higher difficulties since most of the good stuff is tied to killing loads of elites or specials.

hell

>>529705882
If you're playing with arbitrators in the team, this is kind of normal. On veteran, for instance, I'm used to killing important enemies and at least having the highest elites and/or specialists killed (scoreboard mod), but with at least one good arbitrator in the team, I'm genuinely lagging behind, even positioning wise. I've had to build into stamina to even be able to reasonably keep up, and I definitely don't keep up score wise. Part of that is rust after playing a lot of Arby's, but a large portion of that is just the piggy being too strong as a generalist.

Ogryn's designated role is more or less to be the melee horde smasher, and arbitrator is almost as good at that job, arguably better in lower difficulties. Additionally, lower difficulties don't spawn enough enemies for ogryn to really shine. That's not to say the class isn't overtuned, it's basically babby easy mode up to aurics/maelstroms, and even there it's kinda easy. It's just that you kind of need a critical mass of enemies that your enemies can't easily get rid of, for ogryn to really shine.

>10 levels below
Might imply that you're not even 30 yet, in which case you barely even have a build, definitely don't have optimal weapons, and are likely not even experienced enough to know what to do, how, or when. That's fine. If you feel like you're just tagging along, up the difficulty until you're barely comfortable. If you need build advice or whatever, ask here. If nothing else, run +10% exp curios until you're 30, it's worth the investment.

>>529706924
>Has ammo pickups
Hardly

>>529706924
I'm in.

>>529707032
>scab only, no ammo
That's "arbitrator and ogryn have a free game", the modifier, and one of the most fun ones. I understand disliking it if you like shooting your guns, but it's easier than many other maelstrom mods. HISTG++ like >>529706924 especially with barrels in the map where barrels kill you, is some of the worst shit imaginable and I still enjoy playing it.

>>529707268
What I mean is just shoot the barrels.

>>529707375
>impatient, random tard runs into it and dies
>you miss a barrel and your explosive spam ogryn blows you off the map

>>529707495
At least you can say that you tried while making Russian zooming zealots seethe.

>>529707757
>Russian zooming zealots
Maybe this is a little bit of confirmation bias, but man, why are at least statistically relevant amounts of zooming zealots, slavoids?

What ranged weapon that isn't the flamer should I bring to havocs as zealot

>>529708341
"Don't."
Flamer is a major reason to even bring a zealot, and not bringing flamer means you're putting a lot of strain on the rest of your lineup. However, if you're running 2 zealots and a psyker (this is a good team), you can probably afford to bring a boltgun for nuking bosses.

EU server late night quickplay is the place to be if you want the shittiest experience in Darktide it's full of fuckign slav shitters you sometime wonder how those people can be so retarded it's a miracle they're able to turn on their computer.

Are people afraid of backtracking to grab supplies or just completely blind?

>>529709067
>you sometime wonder how those people can be so retarded
Generational fetal alcohol syndrome, krokodil abuse, and a toxic, deeply selfish crab bucket mentality culture that would rather actively sabotage the entire team than NOT being the best, whatever that means to them.

>>529709180
Who cares about supplies? lol

>>529709313
The retard with no ammo left probably should.

>>529706983
Level 22, my highest level character. You're right that I don't have a build or really know what I'm doing. Also I'm bad in general at 'building' characters for stuff, bad at telling what stats are important or what have you; like for the mastery points I've been putting them into whatever skill is free, a lot of them seem to be stuff like "on block gain 5% toughness when critting after 5 seconds". Is this the kind of game where that's important?
>If you feel like you're just tagging along, up the difficulty until you're barely comfortable. If you need build advice or whatever, ask here. If nothing else, run +10% exp curios until you're 30, it's worth the investment.
I think the problem is more that I don't deal much damage and that I die a lot. We did a mortis trial at heresy and I died like a bunch of times. I'm already not really comfortable.

>>529708867
Fine.
Then how am I building this thing? I almost never use it so I don't really know much about it.
Dump Mobility and max the rest I presume, Blaze Away and Penetrating Flame for blessings? Or swap one for Everlasting Flame (or something else entirely)? Flak/Unyielding perks, I guess?

>>529707757
>>529709067
>>529709206
Slavoids should really get their own server.

>>529709868
Don't get too twisted up about builds until you have your full pool of points, at that point you can start really building your talent tree out, and getting together some fully kitted out weapons.
you can seriously get away with a lot in this game so long as you get melee combat down pat, get used to dodging and corraling hordes into a little mob that your circle around the outside of.

>>529709067
had a run earlier where all 3 bumrushed the fuck out of the mission, running past elites etc
i got to deal with all of those while playing catchup so naturally i was pretty far behind
1 goes down and leaves, at the finale i had to fend for myself while the others go down too and i die to something pretty dumb which was on me
>gg -random- you were good, other guy sucked trying to solo
man

My autism demands I make a little headcanon story for all my characters, but for whatever reason my Fatalist Arbitrator feels like he has the strongest and most sensible one. He's a Bibliocrypt goblin from Messelina Gloriana that primarily concerns himself with preserving holy texts and destroying heretical trash in addition to his duties as an Arbitrator, but feels jaded about the Lex's flaws. Just feels right, more right than Angry Cadian #52,728,925 and Deranged Psyker #823,028

>>529709985
The picture tells you everything you're going to need to know. There isn't that much nuance to flamer, you'll figure it out. See the second paragraph in the text.

>>529709868
You're still learning the game, don't worry too much about it. You'll either bounce off the game, or stubbornly autism through and figure it out. /coopg/ will happily give you advice on the basics you should be figuring out, and we have at least a handful of knowledgable ogryn players, I just can't give you any specific advice without knowing what you want to do. And if you don't know, that's fine, just ask again once you're actually level 30 and able to cobble a build together.
>I don't deal much damage and that I die a lot. We did a mortis trial
Mortis trials are disproportionately difficult for inexperienced players, and even more so for low level characters without builds, and without the knowledge of what makes a good build. The qrd is that boss spawns can and will cause a wipe, especially for inexperienced players that panic and scatter when scary music and big healthbar show up. Keep a cool head, and bring a weapon that deletes bosses, JUST IN FUCKING CASE. For ogryn, it's twin stubber with the right skill, point blank barrage, using the burn node. Don't drop below half your ammo, just in case a boss spawns.
I'd recommend you play normal missions, or with a friend that's actually knowledgeable enough to carry you through cancerous wave RNG if it must be mortis.

>>529710378
neat

>>529710378
>fatalist
Let's hear it anon: What is the lex?

>>529710378
same but I can't really think of any backstory for mine
also thinking about changing from fem maul to male fatalist as everyone runs mauls

>>529710895
That stub gun looks badass. I'm a Genestealer Cults simp so I hope they add the Liberator Autostub at some point.
>>529711048
THE LEX IS THE LEX

>>529710512
Is Everlasting Flame primarily there for when you're the only source of flame, or do you just prefer it overall? I didn't find it that necessary in my 40s when alongside an Infernus Psyker and just ran Blaze Away + Penetrating instead. Didn't seem like an issue at the time.

>>529711285
That's just the shotpistol though

>>529711285
It's just a scoped shotpistol

>>529711307
>Is Everlasting Flame primarily there for when you're the only source of flame, or do you just prefer it overall?
It's so you're never caught with your pants down reloading, because it inflates the effective tank size to a ridiculous degree, and lets you reload at your leisure whenever you have whatever qualifies as "breathing room" in h40, especially since the reload takes approximately 2 business days to complete.
It's also there so you can, even if this is a little wasteful, tape your trigger down to maximize Blaze Away's damage, JUST IN CASE of the doom scenario that a beast of nurgle shows up in tight corridors and you don't happen to have a bubble on time.
>TL;DR
It's the safest option, try it, you won't regret it.

What blessings for the Relic Blade?

>>529712116
I'm not sure there's any one true solution to relic blade blessings.
Wrath is obviously amazing, and I think you should always take it.
Rampage stacks multiplicatively with Wrath and lets you horde clear without turning it on.
Either of the heat reducing blessings are very good for power mode, but I've found that I only need it to dispatch armor, and it usually lasts JUST long enough that I don't need more. This might change if you use it in havoc.
Some players swear by the explosion blessing when your heat gauge maxes out, but I don't really get it.

>>529698330
Guardians, the basic bitch militia, don't have a war mask though.

>>529711334
>>529711414
shotpistol with no shield when

>playing vet
>rest of team is full arbeetus
>my vet starts rambling about Sefoni "What's the deal with that psyker on the mourningstar?"
>no answer from the arbitrators
>elevator ride in defeaning silence
T...ty Fatshark

>>529712591
When they add the grenade launcher, heavy stubber too

>>529696147
You gonna post our chat with the psyker or what?

>>529712770
>THE LEX IS THE LEX.
>Vacuum capsule!
>*drops ammo crate* ammo crate!

>>529712591
>shotpistol with no shield when
WEW! AMAZING CONTENT FROM FATSHARK!

>>529711279
errybody loves dredd

>>529712908
That would be masturbatory and faggy because he only said like 2 things, so I didn't save it, it wasn't funny out of context. He made like a good bitch and shut his bitch mouth after whinging about menial shit and that was that.

>>529712770
had similar situation
>lone vet
>"I don't trust our pilot"
>silence

Why yes we lost in about 1 minute how could you tell?

>>529713291
>3 arbitrators
How did you lose? The class is OP even in the hands of a tard. 4 wound memes aside. You should be able to solo carry a maelstrom, and 245 is close to max toughness, so it's not havoc.

>>529712116
I like running Cranial Grounding + Rampage for Aurics. You'll need to put Wrath in somewhere for high Havocs. Think I ran Wrath + Rampage when I was using it in H40.

>>529712406
Wrath is overkill for Aurics imhotbhfam since you generally get plenty of downtime to recharge the sword, and with it powered, you don't lack cleave. That changes in Havoc though

>>529713668
It was high intensity auric. I wanted to carry them or try to at least, but a barrel sent me flying. Again.

>>529713926
F
Barrels truly are the greatest enemy.

>>529687457
says (((you)))

>>529714004
I swear randumbs shoot them on purpose when you walk by them.

>>529712941
sure it's fair to be cynical, but imagine fanning the hammer on a shotpistol

>>529713836
I usually run relic blade on a build with low damage talent investment, so I've had lots of success with the setup I suggested, but you might be right for a more standard damage zealot build, especially with FotF.

>>529712770
>people actually belived fatshark when they said "we have added a gorillion new dialogue lines and intercharacter banter"
LOL!

>Heard Morrow was at Zanathros.
>NO ESCAPE FROM THE LEX

>haha brute you're thick (as dumb)!
>YES, THICKEST OGRYN EVER
>next mission
>haha brute you're thick (as dumb)!
>YES, THICKEST OGRYN EVER

HEY COOPG
it's been like 6 months since I paid attention to the game

is the duelling sword still horrifically overpowering?

why do arbites have so much damage and hp and toughness

>>529714092
how quickly would my dick fall off?

>>529714392
Balanced around a mode that's like 5x harder than Auric QP.

>>529714379
Yes but it's on the chopping block for a nerf when they get around to that, they've spoken about it before.

>>529714392
Schola Progenium doesn't raise wimps.

>>529714392
They should have DR since they're wearing carapace armor.

>>529714379
Yeah it's still the most powerful weapon in the entire game, with a handful of crazy strong builds.
Fatshark promised to nerf it by reworking the special into a parry and adjusting its numbers.
Losing the special, in my opinion, hurts it the most, because the stun stab is truly fucking broken and the main reason I use it in havoc 40.

>>529709180
I assume most don’t really pay attention to that. If you want to backtrack you have to make it overtly clear or everyone will always push up no matter what

>>529694164
So true!
>>529694340
lol maybe to you. I think I’ve seen about 5 already.

Why did they make the horde enemies so fucking sparse in the meat grinder?

>>529683038
she's a ratling (Tolkien hobbits) so she loves to cook and eat

>grandfather Brahms is "Grendyl"
>in the sense there is no "Grendyl" or "The Inquisition"and the whole """Inquisitorial""" op is just a huge con setup pursuing grandpas mysterious goals
>Slippin' Grandpa
BRAVO ABNETT
R
A
V
O

>>529715167
It does make it a little hard to test cleave, but really anyone doing serious mucking about in there gets that mod that lets them spawn enemies themselves.

>>529715320
Well, hard to say actually, he must have a rosette or he would not be able to get away with *any* of this bullshit he's pulling.

>>529715320
why would he be hiding his appearance and the sound of his voice if it was him
even his own fucking granddaughter didn't recognize him, why would anyone else

>>529715657
The highest ranking member of the warband is Rannick and he never even met Grendyl. Rannic was an explicator when he recruited Zola. So he could've been recruited in the same manner.

>>529715837
>why would he be hiding his appearance and the sound of his voice if it was him
Fits the inquisitorial LARP
>even his own fucking granddaughter didn't recognize him, why would anyone else
What makes you think she's not in it, even if reluctantly?

>>529715867
Right, but a rosette is basically an inquisitors credentials, it's not unusual for an inquisitor to be distant and hands off but he'd still basically have the right credentials even if he's seconding them to other people, he has to be able to prove he's an inquisitor afterall or he's going to get fucking trashcanned the second someone asks to see it.

>>529716069
because in the memory in mortis trials she goes "WHO ARE YOU?" when she meets him on the ship

>>529715320
There is a Grendyl and he's on Atoma leading a his own strike team as per the tabletop.

There's one very poignant piece of proof that we're never getting an eldar class.
They already used Kerillian on the space cop.
They would not have done that if they knew space elf was coming.

>>529716182
Yeah-yeah, and who exactly can attest to it's authenticity? Rannick, who's basically a fresh recruit himself?
>>529716227
??? That memory is from decades ago when she first discovered her grandgrandfather is somehow still alive.

>>529716486
Maybe it's a male only class with the only voice option being saltzpyre

>>529716638
>the only voice option being saltzpyre
Sold. I will buy your DLC.

>>529716486
Eldar will speak with exaggerated african accents.

>>529696938
Ehh, the average Eldar sure, but there are plenty of Aeldari who recognize humans as a lesser threat and even actively seek an alliance with them, which is especially common when they’re interacting with higher up members of the Imperium with Inquisitors and like to curry favor with them since they aren’t completely delusional and do recognize the IoM is the dominant power in the Milky Way at the moment, and even more of them know the Imperium is a necessary force since they frequently use them as a bulwark against tyranid and Orks.
That said, Xenos rejects is still a no no until we get more story and background justifying it.
>>529698330
Do you mean the Paths? Because those aren’t there to protect their minds from the horrors of the galaxy, it’s there to stop themselves from going literally going insane from sheer boredom. The Aeldari are very aware of the horrors of even their own kind in the form of the Drukhari, who do the most heinous shit in the galaxy, they wouldn’t go crazy because they laid eyes on a servitor.
>>529699673
You should probably use a more meaningful and less pozzed analogy, considering they regularly commit acts that have them classified as “Nazis” by reddit too. Also, they’re in no place to judge considering the vast majority of their race are not the current Drukhari. You know, the guy who’s literally kill and torturing for the fun of it and leech off the resulting suffering, but cognitive dissonance is no new thing for them either.

>>529716604
A rosette's not just a fancy medellian man, Rannick will have a copy of Grendyls Rosette, and it will be specifically identifiable as Grendyls since each rosette is keyed to a specific inquisitor.

>>529715320
>>529715657
The extent of Grendyl's authority is extremely questionable. One would think that he must have some kind of credentials or an organization like the Arbites would skin his ass. On the other side of that, Inquisitors of the Ordo Hereticus don't have to kiss the nobility's asses, and could very easily wrangle the Sisters of Battle into this clusterfuck.

Then again, if he pushes his luck too far somebody might start to wonder exactly how and why he's several hundred years old. This might explain why he's so hesitant to put in a call directly to the Ministorum or the Administratum. Doesn't seem like the Arbites asked permission before they decided to crash Grendyl's party either.

>>529717081
The several hundred year old thing wouldn't raise as many flags as you'd think between juvanaut treatments, the low profile augs that inquisitors tend to have, and the fact that warp travel seriously complicates how old someone is in relation to everyone they meet.

>My psyker build hinges 99% on if my team is at least regularly competent

>>529713926
if you're not dying, then you're not playing properly

will the hound trouble us?

>>529716958
Nigga I can read the wiki too, so far there was no one to actually challenge the authenticity of it.
>Brahms team is in on it, Emora herself says that she knows Grendyl and that it's his operation and everyone takes her word because she's a Rogue Trader
>Rannicks crew are just a bunch of recruits who just fall in line to escape their desperate circumstances
>Dukane barges in on the ruling house deamnds
>Voltern pretty much does the same
>neither Dukane nor Voltern have interacted with Grendyl in any way

>>529717614
The hound won't trouble us no more
>Can you give us another take
The hound won't trouble us no more
>Perfect
>Now let's name it Houndkilled1_wavHoundkilled2.wav

>>529717081
Arbites crashed his party because they are duty bound to get the taxes flowing again and Grendyl is taking too long to stop the uprising. Grendyl or Rannick could tell them to fuck off but that would be too much trouble and would make things even harder for them, because the Arbites did nothing illegal in trying to do their jobs.

>Arbites spams ping on himself everytime he gets dogged/netted
>I ignore him
>"wtf is wrong with you"
>alt-f4
My only pleasure left in this game is bullying retards.

>>529717938
>Arbitities
>Dogged
Bait post.

>>529713926
Who is this sex toy

>>529717617
Dukane doesn't actually have any authority because she's outside their hierarchy, she can't even get Morrow to get Zola to report to her. She's just there to conduct Havocs because she's a glory hound.

>>529718185
gee I wonder if there's some node that removes the dog completly

>>529718194
Damn

>>529718278
And what fucking retard chooses that.
Dog provides more benefits. I've not been netted outside of mortis trials since I told it to attack elites.

I just started the game and I'm looking for builds. Opinion on Mister E?

>>529718194
Looks like AI slop of Lina Inverse (DotA 2) doing the ah eto bleh
Missing the white makeup tho

>>529718240
Where did I say she's part of their hierarchy? She was summoned by the ruling noble house and Brahms agreed to host her.

>>529717938
after 6 gorillion hours of auric quickplay almost nothing gets to me, but someone spam pinging triggers some primal rage in me

>>529718376
Cool story bro

>>529718376
>And what fucking retard chooses that.
Someone who wants to spam mines/nades. LW is fine

>>529718495
>of Lina Inverse (DotA 2)
This is bait, right?

>>529681864
>receding hairline
he's just like me fr fr

>>529718376
Kek holy shitter.

>>529718495
>Lina Inverse
that's the anime character. dota Lina didn't inherit the last name. she's just Lina the Slayer.

>>529718769
>>529718642
>she's just Lina the Slayer.
Sorry, my oldfag is showing. I still remember most of the Warcraft DotA names.

>>529718620
>>529718642
Look. If some retard chooses lone wolf and goes down, That's on him.
I don't respect dogless K9 agents

I thought Slayers was kind of boring.

>>529714092
I look like that.

If you're dogless you better be a zealot, you waste if spunk

>>529718853
They're just cops. Do you think every cop is a K9 unit?
>oh my le wholesome puppers is sacrosanct
Fuck off

>>529691645
Based.

>>529718853
>arbite needing to report heresy to somebody else.

>>529718495
It's not ai. It's older than chatgpt even.

>>529719467
Well it looks like complete and utter shit and most of the artistic errors look like the telltale signs of AI, so congratulations to whomever cooked this slop up I guess?

I play dogless
Why?
Don't need to spend talent points on making the dog worth while and i get significant buffs to myself

I drank a lot of coffee and played intense games and it's hot and humid and my head hurtsy wurtsy :(

>>529717296
A couple hundred years sure, but the guy's pushing 600 at this point. Even Inquisitors are unlikely to make it past 400~ without being a decrepit husk, though the warp travel thing is fair.
>>529717873
Darktide never wants to be terribly consistent about the warpstorms fucking things up. The Arbites referencing the Tithe as a reason for sticking their nose in this whole thing feels like an excuse.

>>529715867
>and he never even met Grendyl
Where is this said?
>>529716715
>>529716638
There’s no downside here. Tim is a god.

>>529719787
What color is your piss?

>>529719787
what color are your nipples and anus?

>>529717081
>and could very easily wrangle the Sisters of Battle into this clusterfuck.
Well, he *could* do that, if the warp storm wasn’t making travel exceedingly difficult

>>529719787
What does your piss taste like?

>>529719963
>Where is this said?
In one of Brahms' new memories that Sefoni has in the Psykanium.

>>529719787
hemorrhoids status?

>>529720121
>>529720163
>>529720179
>>529720297
Green

>>529720391
My favorite flavor

>>529720391
it's AIDS

>>529718582
I do it when it seems that the others aren't reacting at all for a good moment. It's perfectly justified if you are a tube-visioned retard.

>>529660705 (OP)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g1FmcSepfOs

>>529720492
ever had three of you sat in a doorway waiting for this one guy to stop dawdling and get in the fucking room? thats when I start pinging location markers.

>>529720165
It would be a little weird if the SoB don't have a local presence, especially because of the local Messalina veneration.

>>529719787
>I drank a lot of coffee
Your fault. Bean water rots you from the inside out and turns you into a husk of a human being. Enjoy oblivion.

>>529720391
by the emprah, who let this ork in here?

>>529721191
*spits out coffee*
WHAT?

>>529710512
>curio notes
Nice. I had 3 ally res before, but the bomber res note is great. Is that just with coherency regen? inb4 Pox disables coherency regen, and I'm just a mongoloid.

>>529721191
Caffeine makes your brain work on overdrive, in both good and bad ways (it's why it severely increases overthinking tendencies such as anxiety), and when used in moderation to avoid addiction, can be used as an extremely effective way of temporarily increasing productivity.
Caffeine crash can be brutal, and the same goes for addiction, so while I may not be a medical professional, I still absolutely advise against excessive use, whether short- or long-term.
Same for nicotine, funnily enough! I get a lot of shit done under the influence of nicotine and caffeine, personally, but it's really hard to manage productivity versus addiction.

>>529665774
Would.

>>529720492
that's fair. however it's usually a guy spam pinging go here constantly, even doing it instead of pinging specials and that does it as soon a he goes down no matter what.
also if I'm in your aurics you don't have to worry because I'm hyper aware and focused at all times

>>529721581
Oh those are the tards who are binding it to their scroll wheel.

>>529719852
It is a little contrived sure, but it's reasonable since the Arbites are already there on the planet, and they decided to latch onto the Inquisition instead of doing their own crackdown since the Inquisition would have better intel, also to keep an eye over them because of how butthurt they are over Wolfer's breakout and the Rejects business.

>>529721486
>Is that just with coherency regen?
Incoming damage disables coherency regen, it's exclusively for chorus. There will be situations where shit goes bad and you have to either walk through, or hold your ground within, fart clouds, and that one bomber res does make the difference. It's perhaps the least important part of the curio setup and can arguably be replaced, but I find that it comes up often enough to where I don't want to change it.
It also lets me walk into (fire) bomber puddles for CDR with Martyr's Purpose and control the damage a bit more easily. And it's autistically efficient, since damage resistance stats stack multiplicatively with themselves, so having one of a resistance type is technically mathematically superior to stacking three multipliers (but gunner resistance is fucking invaluable so you do it anyway).

One could make an argument for sniper resistance instead, but if you get hit by snipers, that's a skill issue. I don't value 5% health or toughness increases with the absolutely brutal havoc penalties, and stamina stats don't really work all that well with the dueling sword, so not many other options remain. I guess you could run a second corruption resist, since a health build can technically survive overheads with only half-ish corruption, so it might matter, but I haven't tested it, and likely won't bother.

How many more weeks until I can bring arbitrators to havoc without being denied from 30 different lobbies first

>been like a year since the crafting update
>still no way to empower curios

>>529721981
>Incoming damage disables coherency regen
Oh duh. What a dumbass.
>One could make an argument for sniper resistance instead, but if you get hit by snipers, that's a skill issue
I did run it as a one of on my Vet a long time ago when snipers were buggy as fuck and shooting without any of their cues and through solid terrain (or shooting before the cues triggered lmao).
>I don't value 5% health or toughness increases
kek yeah. I don't even like 'em that much in Aurics compared to other options.

>>529722741
Until you cave and host your own games, it's not going anywhere fast. You will then learn the pain of having 80% of applicants be fucking piggies.

>>529722935
Sweetie, your melkbucks?

>>529721093
Atoma Prime is a Hive World with a side of mining and manufacturing, there are other Shrine Worlds in the Moebian Domain which would be the more likely places for SoBs to be stationed. Last thing Grendyl would want is to move them out and leave the Shrine Worlds vulnerable to Chaos incursions when reinforcements outside the system have trouble getting in, same logic would apply to Skitarii from the Forge Worlds.

>>529722935
>oh no my 16% toughness isn't 17%
wowit'sfuckingnothing

>>529723191
>he doesn't have 17%
lmao cope fag

>>529723191
>oh no my cleave is 79% instead of 80%
this prompted an entire revamping of the crafting system, yes

>>529723307
pic related

>>529723348
Yes, the atrocious crafting system entirely boiled down to rolls 1% off of perfect. Hello, newfag who never had the shopclick experience.

>>529722948
>sniper resistance
I usually run one on my ogryn because they have such massive amounts of health, those 20% let you just face tank them in certain situations, such as doing an objective or going for a res with a wall against your back so the knockback doesn't cuck you out of it. It's a pretty bad stat overall and I don't really recommend it on other classes, unless regularly playing on massive ping or suffering serious skill issues.
It's okay to recognize one's shortcomings and supplement them with game mechanics. Most of the thread will probably shit on me for suggesting to bring a wound, like they always do, but it's okay to simply concede to being bad and bring a wound anyway, because +17% toughness or +21% health will NOT save a shitter. And before judging +1 wound builds, very seriously ask yourself the question: Would you rather someone run a slightly sub-optimal build, or be down an entire player?

I personally value consistency over peak performance in almost every situation, so I advocate for making minor concessions to one's own skill issues if it means being able to perform close to what better players manage. I don't judge someone for having a total of 3 wounds, or 4 from the zealot talent. It's when someone brings 2 wound curios that I get fucking judgmental because that is objectively dogshit unless you're doing martyrdom memes.

>Get on to grind Havoc
>remember the teammate RNG and my inability to carry in the 30s

>>529723486
Ah, but what about the guy who brings three wound curios?

>>529723701
On ogryn, yes?
Why, I start gatekeeping aurics no matter how much it makes redditors seethe. I will, in fact, make fun of someone's havoc rank, especially if it's below 20. These niggers have no place even being in the same game with me.

>>529723673
Honestly if it weren't for derank and needing to sit in the party finder I wouldn't even mind this
I need to deal with the retarded public no matter what, just give me quickplay matchmaking

>>529723961
You fucking wish, I saw an arbite do it.
I was befuddled just looking at it.

>>529723486
Wounds are only good for new players still learning the game or on Martyr builds. If you're still learning the game, that's one thing, but if you need a wound curio for Havoc, you shouldn't be doing Havoc, at least not high levels of it.
>Would you rather someone run a slightly sub-optimal build, or be down an entire player?
I would rather someone that needed the wound curio to not be in my fucking Havocs. In Aurics, I don't care what people run.

>>529724024
Yeah that about sums up the source of my frustration with the present system.

>>529724189
>in havoc
Okay yeah, completely valid. Even going down in the first place is borderline inexcusable, if sometimes unavoidable if a collective chain of fuck-ups occurs, but you shouldn't go down more than once per medicae, assuming the team actually bothers to go for a res.
Now, with a very, very, very big asterisk, I actually think there might be valid applications for running an extra wound on psyker with crystalline will to squeeze out just that last tiny bit of DPS when shit really hits the fan, but that's extremely niche and approaching theorycraftsissy territory. Psyker's tree CAN be tight for points, or CAN have 1-2 points left over, so it really, really depends on the build. I'd sooner consider it with trauma staff than flame. This is still pure conjecture, please do NOT take this for gospel, I do NOT play psyker in havoc.

>Captain Wolfer, put that ice cream cone down the loyalists are here!
>Captain Wolfer: *slurp*

>>529724521
>Psyker's tree CAN be tight for points
We really need the obligatory -5% peril generation dots in there while arby gets +25 toughness. You have to understand.

>>529725052
It's more a matter of
>do you want to survive
>okay, take Empathic Evasion, it ain't even a fucking question
but then the usual One with the Warp 10~33% TDR do FUCKING NOTHING in havoc because a scab shooter volley nearly fucking kills you with or without, and you should likely spend most of your time inside the cuck bubble, in piss toughness, or sliding around like an autistic ninja, so in a way, you DO free up that point. Which an then theoretically go into Crystalline Will, but again, that's PURE CONJECTURE.
I've seen some really kooky psyker builds do some heavy lifting in my havocs. It's pretty insane what happens when you abandon meta slavery and just let good players do their thing. Sometimes it doesn't work, other times you start pushing the limits of the meta.

So do Mechanicus people still have sex? Do they even have a libido? Or have they completely killed their sex drive?

>>529725497
They derive sexual pleasure from interfacing with the blessed machine.

>>529663480
I love this comic so much. The based Templar taking her in is so good.
>>529663516
There really is just a TF version of everything huh

>>529725497
Why do you ask Varlet?

>>529725497
lower tiers who are still mostly human do. Biologis probably get truly hentai about it.

>>529721978
>how butthurt they are over Wolfer's breakout and the Rejects business.
How did they even manage to get a hold of him? Did Fatshark ever explain it?
>>529723152
True, the titular Darktide is a constant domain-wide problem and Grendyl was allegedly not fully aware of the extent of the problem. Then there's...whatever the fuck is happening in other hive city.

>>529725497
It can go either way, though in general they don't go for things like emotion and reproductive urges.
And any who are probably are going to wind up as enginseers since they lack the correct attitude for higher things, Caiphas Cain for *some* reason knew this one enginseer girls mechadendrite attached to the base of her spine despite her wearing a robe all the time, who knows hoooow he knew.

>arbitrator dogs missing legs and organs, wires hanging out, flesh looking swollen and irritated
>missing eyes, jaws, ears
>held together by staples and prayer
>still need to be trained and have enough autonomy to be considered sentient
What a miserable existence

>>529725497
>So do Mechanicus people still have sex?
Very seldom, judging by how fond they are of growing their proteges in tubes.

>>529673090
The Carcharadons are so cool I wish they got more of the limelight…

>>529725497
I bet there's probably mechanicus slaanesh cultists out there somewhere. I'm sure they've got it figured out.

>>529725860
>What a miserable existence
It's a lot like being a Skitarii, except as a dog, but some are worse off than others. Some Cyber-Mastiffs are basically just the central nervous system of a dog in a damn robot.

>>529725860
If it makes you feel better half the humans are also in that state.

SAH, OGRYN EARN EXTRA RATIONS YE-ACKKKKKKKKKK

>>529688065
If you prayed to it hard enough, maybe

>>529725497
Our lord and chad of a man Ciaphas Cain canonically fucked an enginseer.
He notes her mechadendrite ends at the small of her back and Amberly asks in the notes "How could he know that without seeing her in a state of undress?"

>>529726095
that does not make me feel better

>>529679528
extra based mushi post

>>529725860
To be fair, the original form is basically just a big dog with a few cyber augments.
As they are damaged in battle, they gain more and more augments, such as the premium one having been hit by a Krak grenade and was rebuilt. He pretty much is just a heart, a brain, and maybe lungs in a can.

>>529698517
she should be the one on her knees…

>>529703607
but what will you do about it?

>>529727097
Sulk

What's the point of the light attacks on the arbites maul when the special exists and is just them but better

>>529727420
The special doesn't do anything against monsters or enemies that haven't been electrocuted

>>529724698
This didn’t happen.

>>529725497
Basically the higher you go up in techpriest hierarchy, the less interest you have in biological functions in general.
There are exceptions but you don't really rise to Archmagos without a fuckload of bionics.

To answer your question yes, techpriests have sex, you just need to catch them before they're 100.

>>529726185
Holy mother of based. Are the Cain novels any good? I’ve seen the character mentioned around a number of times by now but never bothered to give them a chance

>>529728026
Yeah, they're up there with the Gotrek and Felix novels from fantasy.
Honestly, about the same tier as Infinite and the Divine

>did a 36
>your rank is now 32
WHAT
Anyway, I felt like they carried me, and I was just along for the ride following their lead. Could any Zealot players let me know how I did (on far right), at least as much as you can tell absed on scoreboard? I know that only shows a part of the story, but it really felt like I got carried, and it won't show in the scoreboard, but I think I need to use relic more intelligently. Any help would be appreciated. I want to not feel like the shitter when I play Havocs

>The lex is the SEX
what did female arbites mean by this?

>>529728694
>>did a 36
>>your rank is now 32
>WHAT
Havoc progression was changed with 2.0, to where your rank increases only by a portion of the difference between your current level, and the highest assignment you completed. This was done to supposedly combat people being carried into hosting high rank games despite having no business being there.
>scoreboard insights
Damage taken looks low, suggests you're not running a martyr's purpose health build, where I'd expect it to be in the ~1k unless your team did exceptionally well. This might be fine, but I am extremely skeptical of toughness and damage cope zealots.
Melee damage looks a little high compared to ranged/burn, but that might be heavily skewed by boss damage if you mostly had human bosses, and is hard to discern.
I assume leftmost slot was a flame psyker, and you're not far behind them, so you probably did adequately.
Melee damage to lesser enemies looks weirdly high, that probably shouldn't be your job, but that might not be your fault.
>but it really felt like I got carried
Par for the course for chorus zealot, it can be difficult to gauge just how much of an impact you're having, and flamer doesn't really give you any tangible feedback for how well you're doing, other than weighing kill feed vs ammo count.
>but I think I need to use relic more intelligently.
This might require a warmup game, or otherwise particularly trusting players, but you can use it to aggressively push actively shooting gunner positions to stun them out of it and thus secure a new position for you to hold.
You ideally want to use it proactively when possible, and get that sub-conscious itch to use it ASAP whenever it's off cooldown. Preventing potential one-shots is often more important than stunning a crowd, and if you are running martyr's purpose, situations where you MUST stun a crowd are guaranteed by the CDR since fuck-ups just give you a free chorus.
Don't be afraid to just dump it if you see bulwarks, to open them up.

>>529729518
everybody gets fucked by THE LAW

Is NA-West just fucking dead? I've literally never seen a random havoc 40 form.

>>529730061
nobody plays snorvocs anymore

>>529726185
His longrunning on and off flings with an inquisitor are really more impressive but still.
I think until he had Inquisitor Veil's attention he was also in the habit of banging high society girls at the governers palace of any world he wound up stationed on.

>>529730061
>NA west are so shit at the game that they can't push havoc 40 even nearly two weeks after the reset
sad.

>>529730061
>playing havoc
lol
lmao
let me know when its the only way to get red weapons

>>529729961
>Damage taken looks low, suggests you're not running a martyr's purpose health build
Nah, I was. I fucked up there and wasn't eating damage for the CDR in situations where I probably should have. It was my first time running it, and I wasn't thinking of it often
>Melee damage to lesser enemies looks weirdly high, that probably shouldn't be your job, but that might not be your fault.
There were some moments where, in an effort to save my ammo (especially when low), I'd melee smaller poxie groups with no elites mixed in. Should I be doing anything else if there's not a lot going on besides semi-smaller poxwalker groups? I don't have the hacking minigame addons, and I think one of the other guys did since he nailed them super fast, so I didn't hop on those.

>Par for the course for chorus zealot
Okay, good to know
> but you can use it to aggressively push
Yeah did do that a couple times
>You ideally want to use it proactively when possible
I think that is an issue for me. Using it when there's not a ton of nasty shit on screen just to get people covered in my piss makes me worried I'll need it within CDR and not have it.
>Don't be afraid to just dump it if you see bulwarks, to open them up.
Will remember that. Appreciate it, m80