Good Girl edition

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>Acknowledged but not really discussed
Ready Or Not
Starship Troopers Extermination
Aliens: Fireteam Elite
Killing Floor 2
Barotrauma
Left4Dead 2
SCP: 5K
GTFO
No More Room in Hell 2
Helldivers 2
Space Marine 2
Remnant 2
Payday 3
Back4Blood
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Earth Defense Force 6
WWZ
The Outlast Trials
The Forever Winter
Firebreak
Wildgate
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>Future games
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Den Of Wolves - TBA
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Blight: Survival - TBA
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Darktide: https://darktide.gameslantern.com/build-editor

Women, am I right?

>>529756498
No, you're wrong.

>>529756081
We've seen it before from 2 of them.
Slaanesh had a greater Daemon that got infected with a nurgle disease that made him incapable of feeling. She looked at him in disgust and just *left him* to rot.
And Skarbrand mildly irritated Khorne and got thrown across the galaxy, out of the eye of terror, and was burnt so bad he's now barely recognizable.

Hello anons, I want to play dog build.

is this okay? I only got the game yesterday and just hit 30.
I am using Shield and Bolt Pistol.
Is Dog Build any good? I'm still gonna play it even if it's shit and infest all your games with my dog shit (heh) build.
Also where should I put my last point?

>>529756650
Typical woman.

>>529756701
Drop Razor-jaw (far left top section) as it doesn't even inflict the bleed on the target.
Use that point for Unleashed Brutality.
Dog will quite often target your marked target.

I’m sorry but the Gauntlet is just one of the best pieces of video game music ever made. Up there some of my favorite Skyrim tracks and other greats. To say Kyd outdid himself is an understatement.

>>529756975
>doesn't inflict bleed on the target
It does. It just doesn't trigger kills if it gets the killing blow. It's easily one of the dogs most powerful talents. It will double it's DPS.

>>529756701
you only need voltaic mandibles to make dog good
idk about bleed, people say it's good after the patch, I didn't really bother to test
basically the less you invest in dog the more can you buff yourself, and you can make dog viable by investing the absolute minimum so there really isn't many reasons to dump all your talent points in dog
if you're still playing regular difficulties anything will work, arbites is overpowered and you will be fine with any build all the way to auric maelstrom
you will start feeling the lack of cleave in havoc and that's when you could ask for advice
regarding your build, you have too many talents allocated in the top and middle sections of the tree, obviously more powerful talents are located further down
most talents that give you damage in the lower section (that goes after skills) are good

remember that coomertranny-ish OP images are often the first sign of troonfestations in generals

>>529758302
thank God there's a crusader like you around

>>529758302
No.

arbites is overtuned as fuck

>you can get story mission modifier in auric
WHY
Also is it just me or the playerbase got much worse. Just today I saw people get killed by a poxburster. Do they not know you can push them, it's fucking auric.

>>529759240
People are bunga, it's your job to be unga because nobody else will unga the team.

>>529759240
As it turns out deleting Auric mission board convinced the shitters that it's just le damnation now. Arbites allowing you to m1 through everything also doesn't help with the gatekeeping.

>Average Maul

>>529757045
Man killed it with the soundtrack

>>529756975
>doesn't even inflict the bleed on the target
They fixed that with the latest hotfix.

>>529756701
Here is one I used.
Dropped
>Walk it off & Shield Plates
Not needed / too inconsistent toughness gen.
>Imposing Force
An average node, not chosen just because there are better options.
>Commendation from Condemnation & Targeted Brutality
Good nodes, but I rarely feel lacking in toughness, and I am unsure Targeted Brutality is worth 2 points. By choosing other nodes I am choosing damage over CC. If you prefer CC, these are a reasonable choice.
>Kill Order
+50% damage is actually not that strong compared to bleed and shock bonuses from other dog nodes.
>Not Far Behind
I don't like this node because it doesn't trigger when the dog attacks Ogryns or Monstrosities. Not a terrible node, but not as consistent as I would like.

Gained
>Concussive
Very strong node that makes Force of Will the best melee toughness gen node in the game.
>Street Smarts
Very strong defensive node. Synergy with Arbites Revelatum.
>Hold the Line
A below average node, but a worthwhile point tax for what's behind it.
>Monstrosity Hunter, Target the Weak & The Emperor's Fist
3 very strong damage nodes.

Choices
>Hammer of Judgement
+10% attack speed is strong. But it doesn't help against monstrosities or carapace packs.
>Ammo Belt
+25% ammo is strong. With the Bolt Pistol, I feel like I need it.
>Suppressing Force
Damage reduction that works against whatever you are fighting. It's strong because of how consistent it is.
>Serrated Maw
This isn't that much brittleness, but it makes your dog far stronger against Crushers.
>Weight of the Lex
If you heavy attack often, which with the Shield you do, this node is basically must pick.
>True Grit
In havoc, every hit does more than 50 damage, so this is actually very good. But it has many ways in which it doesn't work as expected so it's not as strong as it seems at first.

I hope this is useful.

>>529758302
Fuck off

How do I get started with Vermintide 2/Darktide without embarrassing myself?

>>529758302
wow...
remember that the ones obsessing over trannies likely fap to trans porn in their offtime.

>>529758302
>t. false flagging troon

>>529759908
learn how to properly dodge

>>529760002
he's retarded but this is cope

Which veteran ranged weapon is the most fun?

>>529760728
yes

>>529760728
Bolter is fun.

I think it would've been cool if devs added side arms to the game. Like you have your rifle and then a pistol and your melee weapon.
I know, this isn't CoD but I think it could've been cool.

>>529760728
You need someone to tell you what's fun and what isn't?

Experiments. Dark experiments.

>>529761257
I'm still waiting for a commissar sword and pistol combo similar to the rapier from vermintide. Surprised they haven't done it yet

>>529760728
Unironically plasma.

>>529759635
>no walk it off
Not that anon - but really? Pretty much anytime anything happens, I'm wasting stamina. It's just free toughness while running and dodging.

Does playing Arbites basically make you immune to enemy hounds? Will your dog save you?

>>529762579
Yes

>>529761257
A friend of mine hate the melee combat.
He just wants to bring a braced autogun and revolver and solve every problem with bullets.

>>529762579
Yeah, it prioritises dogs and mutants who have you grabbed over everything else, even targets you pinged.

>>529762579
Will still pin you down and open you up to other enemies, and will still give you purple aids, the dog will save you though.

it's almost incredible how many niggers cannot comprehend the basic concept of slapping the dodge key

>>529759635
Walk it off is basically free Toughness, it procs on you sprinting, pushing, blocking and swapping weapons. It could be useful when there are no enemies nearby and you're dealing with ranged damage, because you can literally just proc it by swapping weapons.

how can we combat discord trannies and redditors posting here? There are gullible idiots who really prefer the crafting system over loot grinding due to the influence of the aforementioned subhumans

>>529763504
Ignore them or call them a faggot and then ignore them.

>>529759635
>heres my dog build. without the dog talents lol

>>529760728
the ones you can't even use at higher difficulty

What weapons are actually good now? I keep hearing mixed things but the general consensus is that everything I used to enjoy using sucks now? I haven't played the game in over a year so I have to relearn all the new skill trees and I guess go find new weapons since all of mine are still from the old loot gambling system and most of them seem to be trash now.

ATTENTION, SCUM!
HAVE A NICE DAY. REMEMBER TO STAY HYDRATED.

>>529764529
I kinda like that all the arby personalities seem to get along better with the rejects than with each other.

>>529764506
Duelling sword mk4
Power swords
Rashad combat axe
Arbites shield
Arbites maul
Shock maul (when playing arbites)
Combat knife
Relic swords
Blaze force greatsword
Mk 3 bully club
All pickaxes
Slab shield
Mk 4 cleaver

Bolter
Bolt pistol
Arbites shotguns
Recon lasguns
Plasmagun
Kickback
Rippers
Achlys heavy stubber

>>529764506
Dueling sword and bolter

Time to game!

>>529764529
Thank you.

Just one more mission without getting blown off a ledge by a retarded teammate please oh please

>>529765857
I curse you with Clandestium Gloriana opening area.

>>529765857
you jinxed it

>>529756701
This general is a terrible place to go for advice on how to build arbitrators, because half the players here are some combination of
>eternal malicelets
>trolling
>don't play arbitrators, or are barely even level 30 themselves
>are lone wolf only fags
so it's extremely rare you'll get actually valuable build advice.

Your talents look good. Going top-heavy gives you stupid amounts of survivability, but going bottom right for true grit SHOULD be more valuable since it saves you from fuck-ups and taking overheads. Rebreather similarly gives you a massive safety blanket.
The BTL dog damage isn't necessary or worth it with execution order, and I strongly believe you should always take the 7.5m if just for charging through lakes of fire.
The build I'm posting is obviously somewhat low on damage, and that's because it focuses primarily on dog damage, using bolt pistol with puncture to clear dense hordes with the dog. Otherwise it's just a very tanky melee build, I like using the shield. Keep in mind that this does not keep up, damage wise, with dedicated damage builds, and is NOT optimized for high havocs, where I'd run something different.

>>529756701
Never ever listen to this guy>>529766374
This build is legit dog shit

>>529766740
As I said
>>trolling
because most of the posts you'll get here are just
>this guy is retarded
and never even try to have a conversation or give advice. Unironic, genuine non-white behavior. Here's your (You), you will never be white, you will never contribute anything meaningful to society, kill yourself.

>>529766874
nta but your build is kinda retarded yeah

THANK YOU VET FOR THE CLOSE AND KILL AURA OMG THE TEAM WILL SURELY BE MORE EFFICIENT WITH 5% FASTER RUNNING SPEED

>>529766094
>>529766164
hooray

>>529767124
lol seethe arbitranny, learn to ration your ammo

>>529767174
>Dark Communion
Eh, close enough. Grats, anon.

>back to completely despising pd3 after 13 hours
Maybe it wouldn't be so shit if I wasn't playing solo but I wouldn't be playing solo if the game wasn't so shit.

>>529760375
nah just the usual third worlder astroturf operations, they're always using the same script: >>529758302 reads like some twitter chatGPT mishap

Everyone is saving the Arbites shield and maul is good but it feels like absolute dogshit to play. Low mobility, weak damage, slow swings. What's the catch? Is having a shield just that good?

The new class is way too easy omg

I'm using a mod to make the Flame Combat Shotgun only fire its special ammo.

Single target DPS is poor, but group DPS is very good and I feel like I have infinite ammo.

>>529766874
Why the fuck would I engage with retarded bullshit instead of just saying "yeah it's retarded". You spew some bullshit about retards and trolls while posting atrocious build like this.

>>529760571
What does that mean? I've only played the tutorials and the first mission of VT2 and it seems too chaotic to really know what to do except spam and hope for the best? Do the dodges have iframes? How precise is it? Is there any method or timing involved or can I just mash the button until the cooldown hits? Is it like SM2 where timing matters?

>>529768450
>I'm using a mod
stopped reading there. Good for you if you need to cheat in a pve game lol

>finally unlock the weapon you want to play on your class
>brainlessly roll it until you get the meta stat distribution
>apply the perks and blessings that are meta
>never bother with the weapon system again
this has got to be the worst, most sloppy gearing system in the entire gaming industry. How is it better than grinding random drops? Do we really have to appease normalfags?

>>529768410
The special attack is really good. Two aoe stuns with pretty good range. It's like having break the line x2 on demand to open a bunch of enemies up for your team. Higher difficulties make it better.
Shove attack -> light -> heavy -> light -> repeat. That's the horde clear combo if you're using the 75% cleave on shove talent (which you should be)

>>529768492
l2p before posting here faggot

>>529768604
>>never bother with the weapon system again
This is the reason why people are quiet. They are happy to not have to deal with the old system anymore.

>>529768623
Ahh I wasn't using the special that much. Which mark should I be using?

Yeah man keep arguing I'm sure next post he'll be convinced, just one more trust me

>>529768410
>Low mobility
Use a secondary that isn't.
>weak damage
Use light attacks
>slow swings
You have plenty of attack speed in your class
>What's the catch?
You can block crusher overheads and snipers. It has a flashbang that invalidates ragers and shotgunners.

>>529769482
The default XI mark.
For single target you can just spam lights and replace the 2nd light in the chain with a heavy.

Maybe Hedge was right about the playerbase being too retarded for this game.

>>529769821
>space before question mark ?
The guy is just Fr*nch.

>>529769821
Definitely non-white.

>>529769821
The seethe and this general proved he was right.
>noo you can't shit on fatshark
>you must be a thirdie
kekaroo

I made a female Arbiter to see how the voices are and they are pretty lame compared to the male ones.
The super special voice actress from baldies gate has a ridiculous accent and has no enthusiasm.
The only good one was the Fatalist, even the Karelian voice supposedly the Maul sounds like she would rather be doing something else.

Meanwhile the male voice actors are screaming putting passion into it with them getting more intense as they enact violence upon the heretics.

Fatalist has the most passion kind of disappointing but I guess its only 12 dollars.

>>529760728
I like the charging one that kreig use, hellbore iirc

>>529769821
menus are horrific in this game to be fair. this stuff isn't intuitive at all

>>529770271
Yep, absolutly no passion in their voice lines.

>>529770271
M/F Fatalist and M Maul sound like they actually put effort in. M Authoritarian is an earsore, and the other womyn just fucking phoned it in, in the most embarrassing way.
You forgot the part where there's also a bunch of missing banter, where your character will start a banter line and everyone else just goes (...) without the conversation finishing.

>>529756701
You're slightly too top-heavy, at the point where you'll get diminishing returns. Get some more of the bottom nodes, as you're lacking damage.

Cadia?
More like CACAdia!

>>529760728
revolver with weapon specialist or double shotty on second place

>>529770597
kill yourself

vet sisters? why does fatshark hate us so....

>>529770768
Mindbroken.

>>529770769
Who gives a shit? Veteran players are retarded. I have yet to see one that doesn't die within the first three engagements in Havoc, it's entirely expected.

Have Tau ever met actual daemons or Chaos forces? Are there any corrupted tau?

>>529768707
I wouldn't call them "people", it's what Jews refer to as goyim, cattle. Soulless, happening-addicted zombies who need feel-good hormones to survive. The devs should have never cattered to npcs

>>529770515
I didn't choose Male Maul as he's the best one that everyone chooses.

I was hoping Devora would use an English accent but I guess the one we have is her native accent? When yelling or grunting her accent changes which is odd.

New cash shop items when? I want something for the arbitrator that isn't his default outfit with a long coat on.

>>529770597
keep beeing urself

>>529771136
next week

>>529771180
Damn, thanks.

>>529771136
Here you go.

>>529771253
chat is this real?

>>529771253
Bro that makes you go faster, that's cheating p2w bro

>>529771253
Is this real? Do we have a leak of the upcoming cash shop outfits? I wouldn't be surprised if the new one will just be a red recolor.

>>529771253
>>529771342
We'll get a hotfix next week so they'll probably add new goysmetics. Releasing the same coat but red so soon after release would be an extremely retarded move. Screencap this I swear I'll drink a full glass of my own piss if it happens.

>>529770895
Multiple encounters, they just haven't fully grasped the concept of the immaterium yet: Ethereals do have some warp presence (compared to the rest of the almost-Blank Tau) and one of them got Daemonhost-possessed once. There have been incidents involving Gue'vesa defectors with psyker aptitudes, and this has made the Tau put in procedures and regulations for that.

>>529768656
>ask how to play not like a retard
>get told to learn to play
Thanks for the help Anon.

>>529771429
I'm kinda hoping we get a head cosmetic with voice distortion that turns male maul into absolute earrape. Soda can throat apparently doesn't work on arby's yet.

>>529769821
Hard to blame the guy. Took a me a few minutes to figure out that you can switch weapon marks.

>>529771398
God I wish we had an Ork prisoner of war-reject
>Beast Snagga / Loota / Kommando
Having the Kommando as the melee class would work too, if we could have Weird Boy as the third one. Unsure if combining an almost-Ogryn physically capable class with psyker abilities would be feasible though, maybe you could balance it with Gork & Mork bullshittery?

>>529759908
>>529768492
First of all, wear headphones. The game has a lot of important audio cues. You'll learn to listen for them.
Specifically for dodging, most melee and ranged attacks will play a whoosh sound effect. If you dodge during that, you should avoid it entirely. Sprinting forward and sliding also works for projectiles, but trash enemies magnetize to you during their attack animation, so sliding without a dodge doesn't work.
You can slide out of a dodge by immediately crouching during the slide to gain a little bit more distance. This is often useful, if for no other reason than helping you dodge projectiles.
Every weapon has its own mobility stat and number of dodges. This is not displayed in game unless you install a mod to show it. Once you run out of dodges, every follow-up dodge becomes worse (but technically still usable, and you can still dodge with good timing). You need to not dodge for a while to refresh them, and in the heat of battle, the timing is longer than you might think.

Don't rely on blocking too much. Blocking IS good, and I DO think you should still default to blocking when you have absolutely no other idea what to do, and in a hairy life or death situation, it can and will save your life, but good positioning and dodging are almost always going to be better by default. It depends somewhat on your weapon and class, and the enemies you're fighting. Sometimes ragers will just pin you down and there's no other out than blocking while you wait for your ability to recharge or an ally to intervene, but you should ideally avoid getting into those situations in the first place. Psyker's peril block is a major outlier here; many consider it to be a crutch, but I do think it's pretty good if for no other reason that it lets you safely get a res off most of the time.

>>529768492
while having your finger on a directional keybind like Q, press space

>>529772205
In case this wasn't obvious, I forgot to say, this is for Darktide btw. Vermintide is a little bit different because your mobility options are more limited, but I don't play the game enough to give any good advice.

With the updated MorePiss Trials and Braahps memories we know the Aeldari are trying to make contact with the Mourningstar and people still believe it will not be the next dlc class?

I'm a veteran main. Ask me anything.

Next class 100% won't be a frontliner as an Ork would. My theory is that they went with Adeptus Arbites because the game had an ask for a mobile frontliner, as people really didn't want to play the only frontliner before (Ogryn) because the class is very slow and has no access to puny-sized weapons. Arbites fixes that.

>>529772615
Retarded take, never post again.

>>529759908
As people have already mentioned dodging is your no. 1 (one, una) tool in melee: You should basically constantly be dodging to the sides while mashing MB1, and dodging backwards if you see some big wind-up shit coming down on you. Not everything can be dodged out of in this way though and that's where blocking becomes mandatory. You'll learn what to use and when in time.
And fucking disable the "doubletap directional button or jump for dodge" options if those are still on by default!

>>529772795
>disable the dodge on double tap

do traptrannies really...

>>529772735
I will post more often

I always forget to use my weapon special.

oh

>>529772559
is weapon specialist actually good or is it just for fun and memes?

I just did the story mode with a brand new Arbites.
That's it? We just stop a ritual and get a pat on the back? No Wolfer boss fight? No explanation of what we were going to stop so we have an idea of the stakes? Just a "You stopped it and it was gonna be bad, don't worry about whatever that was." before going to do more missions?

THAT FUCKING SUCKED WHAT THE FUCK.

>>529773008
The entire thing basically exists to add context and a timeline to the developing narrative. That's what fatshark said anyway. The execution could've been better, but it is what it is. Don't sweat too much about it.

>>529773008
There's supposed to be more... it'll make sense once they release more missions... never

>>529759908
Dealing with hordes imo is the most weird thing about about these games. Pick a basic weapon like a sword. Find an attack that sweeps from side to side. Do it and move your camera alongside the movement of an attack. So if your hammer hits from left to right, move camera to the right for a bit, so it'll cleave a bit more targets. Some weapons cleave better then others and it's faster to get to that attack in a combo.
After doing an attack dodge to either side. Do another attack and dodge again. If there are special enemies in the crowd keep an eye on them. Hold block and press attack from time to time, it'll push enemies and interrupt them. You have dealt with the horde now. Every other mechanic comes naturally as you explore classes, weapons combos etc.

>>529772615
>muh frontliner
Nigger, it's darktide, everyone's a frontliner at Damnation+
Are you one of those retards who unironically think that toonking is an actual role in this game?

>>529759908
>Dodging
Every weapon has a number of effective dodges, and when you exceed the effective dodges it will go into ineffective dodges, which go into the negatives of your effective dodges, each one becoming worse and having less i-frames. In VT2 your dodges recharge after less than a second from the moment you execute your last dodge. In DT it's closer to a full second.
You should be dodging every second. You should also get a mod that tells you your current dodge count (such as NumericUI). You should be dodging left and right while culling a horde. Yes, it's closer to spam, but when fighting stronger enemies that can tear you apart in a few hits like Crushers and Ragers, you will want to pay closer mind to them.
>Audio cues
There's a woosh sound effect that plays whenever an enemy from outside of your view is going to hit you. Remember that your block AND push work in 360 degrees. Similarly, there is a sound effect that plays when you are going to get SHOT from outside of your view.
Dodge-sliding lets you build ground and dodge gunfire for longer than regular dodging, but dodge-sliding doesn't give you i-frames against melee hits.

>>529771253
Genuinely terrible.

>>529773203
With some weapons you dodge less and push attack more. I find myself only dodging when I actually have to with the arbites shield since you push attack so often with it. Some push attacks are just that good.

>>529773001
It's the best keystone, others are caca.

>>529773284
No matter what you think, this is the design of the game. Not everyone is a frontliner, it's retarded for a Psyker with a flame staff to stand in front of his teammates. There is absolutely zero reason why a Veteran whose main job is to shoot at specialists to stand in front of his teammates. Frontlining when you don't have to, and when other classes have better tools, is legitimately retarded and only works with your easy gamemode. Stick to your Aurics.

>>529773008
It's why I've been telling people here to skip the campaign. It's genuinely just a waste of time because it is all just the same old shit we've known before.

I've been thinking about getting Darktide, but I don't have anyone to play it with. Is playing with randoms feasible in this game or should I just not bother?

>>529773496
yes quickplay works in all relevant modes, really good too and havoc aint that bad with the party finder too

>>529773381
can you elaborate?

>>529772615
>mobile frontliner
Zealot?

>>529773496
I've been thinking about getting it too but apparently the loot drops are obsolete and you just get some materials at the end of the mission and craft the meta shit with it. I don't know why anyone with an ounce of self conciousness would pay for this shit

>>529773676

>>529773284
I don't want to start another shitflinging argument about difficulty but frontlike/backline definitely exists in H40 with some weapons. You'll get way more value out of purge staff if your team is competent in melee and you can focus on burning everything instead of having to pick poxwalkers out of your ass.

>>529773496
It's very rando friendly.

>>529773381
All veteran keystones are good in their own specific situations, yes even marksman's focus, it's just very niche. If you want to argue that something not being generalist, or hard to use, makes it less good, I agree with you.
Focus target is very strong, and keystone-less veteran is also very strong because the implication is grenade spam, which is the secret, hidden 4th keystone.

>>529773001
It's good because weapon specialist and the talents that lead to it are major buffs to your melee weapon, which is what you will use 75% of the time in Havocs, and the plasma gun gains close to nothing from focus target but gets backpack reloading from weapon specialist
focus target is better for anything that isnt the plasma gun but at that point youre not playing The BuildTM

>>529772615
>because the game had an ask for a mobile frontliner
Nigger your Zealot?

Brain damaged take.

>>529773747
>don't know why anyone with an ounce of self conciousness would pay for this shit
how can you know when you haven't even played it?
Also you're the weirdo for wanting more RNG. Everyone else is normal.

>>529773421
>Stick to your Aurics.
lol what
everything you said is even more retarded in havocs where it becomes much less viable to shoot literally everything

>some people use one of the old combat shotgun for boss damage
Does it really work? How?

>>529773421
>retarded ass opinion
>on havoc im right
no, the only reason psykers dont "frontline" on havoc is cause you cant push with a staff out and the staves are severely op and trivialize havoc hitmass so you want to maximize uptime

>>529773747
wait really? so what's the incentive of replaying the same missions again? vermintide had it pretty much figured out.
Alright, if that's the case it's just more slop for the normalfags. I'll spend my money elsewhere I guess. God, why are all co-op games so fucking bad. And I don't like the medieval setting of Vermintide, fml

>>529774012
Agri with no respite & full bore does massive damage on Arbites if you can aim. It particularily destroys beasts of nurgle. Even though they don't always get the stagger animation they do actually get the state so the damage ramps up very quickly.

>>529774012
I think you only need 2 special shell shots to get 16 burn stacks on the boss.

>>529773979
as a psyker, i spend more time shooting in havoc than i do in aurics.
Havoc is where class roles come into play. In Aurics everyone is doing everything.

>>529773954
Zealot isn't a frontliner, they're just a shit design and will get reworked into their intended role soon
>>529773979
Plasma gun, survivalist and your teammates giving you every single ammo bag has more than enough ammo to shoot every specialist
You don't play the real game, why do you want to bother arguing this?
>>529774026
>on havoc I'm right
Yes, the real gamemode they balance towards. Why do you think Ogryn and Arbites entirely trivialize Snorics?
Reality check^

>>529773964
discord link, xister?

>>529774169
>Yes, the real gamemode they balance towards
wow your reading comprehension is fucking horrid. I specifically explained why thats just a copout and you arent correct on havoc

>>529774169
>will get reworked into their intended role
>soon
lmao i wish

>>529774169
>Zealot isn't a frontliner, they're just a shit design and will get reworked into their intended role soon
You're a fucking retard, mate.

post
>yfw
the horde music comes on
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KU5JbCiL2DM

>>529774169
Retard

>>529774247
oh my bad i thought you were serious there for a second

>>529773947
Focus target (8 stacks) has greater impact for removing important targets fast, bolter and bolt pistol related builds one-tap gunners and disablers anyway, and a veteran with a good team isn't forced to melee nearly as often as you imply. Consequently, you can afford to use marksman's focus and deadshot to rape things like reapers while barely spending any ammo, and situations that require absurd amounts of fire power never get out of hand because you're not caught with a blue brick sitting at 95% heat when things get rough.
Sure, the plasma gun is being nerfed, but that doesn't mean it's the best veteran build. I will not elaborate further, and instead laugh at any detractors, because it's so painfully obvious that you retards can't possibly reach havoc 40 much less true survivor, even with your jewtuber metaslave build, and will never, ever have any idea what you're talking about.

I don't really feel like a frontline class as zealot in havoc. Every time I pull out the flamer my instinct is to hide behind my macho teammates like a bitch so I don't get raped while my mobility is reduced to 0. The only reason why I even bother fighting is melee is to get crits for my relic.

>>529774420
I mean, your take of RNG=bad is so retarded I thought we were trolling

>>529774169
>double dashing across the map with near-infinite toughness isn't a frontliner

>>529774565
wrong. I said RNG = unpopular

>>529774357
I hate women in WH, they ruin everything, I hope they all fucking die

>>529774481
>>529774169
Stop playing ds4/flamer with zealot on havoc and you will understand why he is a frontline you glorified chorus bot.

Point of zealot is to dive gunners and fuck shit up in close, giving the rest of he team a chance to move in and clear. If you don't have most ranged elite kills you're playing it wrong and can suck a dick.

I can't wait for infinite cleave and piss health nerf.

Notice how it's entirely insults with 0 arguments because they know I'm right and live in denial.
I accept your concession. I look forward to never seeing any of you in my Havoc games and your future posts about how your Auric teammates trolled you

>say a bunch of wrong shit about how psykers csnt stagger stuff (hello? trauma staff?)
>meltdown about how anyone who disagrees canr do havoc
most delusional retard itt. He also defends powercreep (i.e. making havoc easier) so you know where he's coming from

>>529774674
>dive gunner in havoc 40
kek

>>529774695
Or maybe you're just retarded

>>529774695
I don't know which side you're on, so I'll just say "Yes sister, so true."

>>529774613
unpopular with who? redditors and normalfags that just want to chill for an hour or two after work? popular doesn't mean good, it's almost always quite the opposite

>>529774674
LOL

>>529774635
>webm
What the fuck is happening

>>529774774
NTA but you're a hardstuck shitter if you think diving gunners is even in any way bad. Even zero toughness zealots can dive gunners while barely taking any chip. Use your slide you actual fucking mongoloid.

>>529774774
>>529774807
>he can't do it with zealot
Bro your dash? Your TWBS? Your tac axe? Hell you can even use DS4 if you need the crutch.
These are the people begging for constant buffs because of muh powerfantasy™


Just lower the difficulty if you can't do it and stop ruining it for everyone else.

>>529774923
works well in the psykhanium
in the real game there are other enemies

>>529774774
I was diving gunners on h40 with ogryn before the rework
just takes actual understanding of aggro mechanics

>>529774674
By your metric the dog is a better zealot.

>>529774953
Fatshark doesn't listen to you and my opinions align with theirs. You lost.

>>529774806
>unpopular with who?
Most people. If you've been paying attention to the game since launch, the players base hated the excessive RNG. And when fs changed it and removed most of the RNG, people were happy. That's a fact. You can disagree with RNG being bad or good, but it doesn't change the fact that most people hate it. You're in the minority. If the devs catered to you, the game would lose players. That's not an insult btw. It's okay to have different preferences.

>>529774774
moron

>>529774357
I love women in WH, they improve everything, I hope a female assassin pegs me while locking eyes with me through her baleful red lenses and not making a single sound

>>529775005
>By your metric the dog is a better zealot.
Given the average zealot player he probably is kek

I never played Havoc but I completed an auric malestrom once and I could dive gunners pretty well. I wonder why every havoc player mocks me when I say this? They must just be shitters. The only reason I'm not havoc 40 is because I don't like the gamemode, trust

>>529774981
Yeah, in a real game you have to walk around fire and maybe block the occasional melee chaff that somehow magnetizes onto you, but it's not a big deal. The real problem are reapers that are currently spamming you, because those DO get through slide spam with enough reliability to be a problem. That's it.
Not to mention that a good h40 zealot build is either virtually immune to gunners anyway (FotF and stealth) or wants to actively take damage for martyr's purpose (chorus health build), and you should be running 3x20% gunner resist to mitigate the chip you take while sliding around when NOT doing those things.

>>529775048
>If you've been paying attention to the game since launch
He doesn't have the game. He doesn't know anything. See >>529773747

>insisting that only chorus + psykinetics aura spam works for havoc
>while also calling everyone a shitter and "hardstuck auric player"
This is the most obvious form of coping shitter I have ever seen. Buddy got a big ego boost because he just cleared h40+ with chorus spam for the first time so now he must lord it over everyone because he doesnt understand actual good players play havoc without crutches

>>529773747
Retarded faggot. Kill yourself

>havocsissies triggered again
same old game man, tuck yourself in under a bubble, while a vet screeches a lullaby in piss toughness and a chorus zealot dropping the beat

>>529775290
Why can't you beat it if it's this easy?
>because uh uhhh muh party finder no mames wey

>>529775149
Actual havoc chads laugh at you for playing h40 with training wheels shitter

>>529775243
>Buddy got a big ego boost because he just cleared h40+ with chorus spam for the first time
I think it's actually worse than that, because you're assuming that these retards even made it to 40 in the first place. Although it's equally pathetic when some Havoc-Forged tries to act like he knows anything when it's possible to corpse-drag any shitter to the finish line.

>>529775206
I dont have it because the gearing system is literal goyslop
>>529775048
jsut because it's POPULAR with the playerbase doesn't mean it's GOOD. and the losing players cope is beyond me, what other game would they play then? also, players who don't like the sloppy crafting could get into this game, we don't know how it would impact the numbers

i can't even tell what we're arguing about

Havoc is just bad, ok? That's the only reason why I can't reach 40.

>>529774890
China has weird assault laws, if it wasn't recorded, anyone can blame anything on you

I have never seen a non-relic zealot in H40 you guys are lying.

>sissies are doubling down

>>529775260
>no you see I NEED to have the exact same meta shit everyone else is running around
back to discord, subhuman

>>529775475
The best zealot player I've seen used keystoneless stealth and nearly carried the game. I'm not sure how much impact I had by following him around with chorus, but we both had a really easy time through the three or so games we played, so I imagine we had good synergy.

>>529775517
I told you to kill yourself. Quit acting uppity and get to it, bitch

>>529775402
Why are you here? Legitimately, what the fuck are you doing in this general if you don't like the game discussed?

>>529775547
Didn't happen.

>>529775593
because this general is infested with darktide players and he will start talking about his coop game any second now

>>529775382
>>529775243
The shitter recoils in pain and lashes out "auric shitter!" when caught.
Take away psykinetics aura, purgatus, chorus, flamer and rumbler spam and you will see them fold in the low 30s even

>>529773747
Are you gonna be a reoccurring character in these threads? Can you get a trip or use iconic words, so I can filter you pls?

>>529775663
With all of this, why can't you beat Havoc still?

>>529775663
>Take away half the meta
and everyone will just play arbites. You need to cast a wider net than that tbdesu

>>529773747
totally spoken like someone midly interested in the game and not someone with an agenda

>>529775583
I told you to go back to discord, low T normalfag
>>529775593
because this game has improved on stuff I missed in Vermintide (more auras, guns) while completely goysloppifying the gear-getting system

>this much trolling on a Thursday
time for me to go get that haircut I've been delaying for months. Hopefully the retards will run out of steam in the meantime.

>>529775812
how'd you get them fun colours

>all these discord subhumans/redditors shitting themselves when someone has a different opinion than the echo chamber
god damn, this place sucks even harder than the rest of this site

>>529775805
Rng is the most goyslop system in existence, faggot. It's literally based on casino psychology. Leave and kys.

>>529775805
New angle of baiting from our resident retard

>>529774357
what motivates a lardass like you to post that

>>529775402
>jsut because it's POPULAR with the playerbase doesn't mean it's GOOD
Yeah, bro. I fucking loved the original crafting where I could only change 1 perk and 1 blessing. And all the perks were a completely random slot machine shit where you basically never got what you wanted.
RNG is soooo good.

>>529775663
100%, the guy ITT who has been calling everyone auric shitters is hardstuck h21 without gold toughness abuse. It's always the fags playing on easy mode who get hyperdefensive about it

>>529775925
That's what happens when you are a massive retard with insanely retarded opinions and you are willing to die on that hill

>>529775925
It's just a raid. Probably from some discord group. This place is usually pretty chill and now all of a sudden we get flooded by unreasonably retarded posts. It's clearly not organic.

>>529774357
The soundtrack is really great.

>>529775931
yes, and that's a good thing. Getting a perfect weapon crafted makes the material gathering completely pointless and you are just rerunning the same missions over and over again with the exact same build. You need to kill yourself asap, normalfag

>>529775402
>we don't know how it would impact the numbers
we do actually since the gacha bullshit was already in the game and it did indeed drive people away. It didn't really affect players like me who had thousands of hours as I had basically perfect gear anyways

>>529776093
yes FS has a lot to gain to ruin this place where 15 people argue on a daily basis

>>529775925
Reminder

>>529775761
>>529775734
>MUH META
Subhuman filth. Tide games are all about making any weapon you like work. If you can't you're simply not good enough and need to git gud. Fucking secondaries and their support tank meta bullshit.

what's this all about?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZXIFF4D6LOs&ab_channel=HELLDIVERS%E2%84%A22

>>529775805
>while completely goysloppifying the gear-getting system
RNG is the goyslop system, you retarded nonce.
RNG only exists as a player retention treadmill so fatshark can milk you for every fucking second you spend on the game so they can try justifying their dogshit game design decisions for their investors.
Also RNG is beyond dogshit in this game even terms of gameplay because then fatshark objectively can't balance the weapons for shit

>>529776245
No one but you has been talking about meta. You're projecting.

>>529776182
Do you not have red weapons in vt2? You're just trolling aren't you.

>>529776197
>It didn't really affect players like me who had thousands of hours
alright, so the normalfags fucked off while actual human beings stayed, that's exactly my point

>>529776212
when did I say it was FS doing it?

>>529775939
yeah this just reads like caca morons posting

>>529776231
>>529776059
People want their participation trophy. At this point you're nothing more than a chinese subhuman if you want even more powercreep.
It was amazing how they flooded the forums and started review bombing because FS was considering to nerf ds4 & plasma.

>>529776283
how are they milking me when I'm playing the game but I'm actuall getting some sort of a reward for it in the form of better gear? you just spout shit without thinking, truly a mask off moment, redditor

>>529776093
telopots disc has been posting pics of this general on their disc a lot lately, put 2+2 together

>>529776296
he's clearly trolling. So there's no point in arguing.

>>529776287
>No one but you has been talking about meta. You're projecting.

>>529775761
>Take away half the meta


Projecting indeed. People clinging to 'meta' are just afraid to admit that they need their crutches. Come on anon, say the line "it's a pve game let people have fun!" I know you want to

>>529776460
4! Thanks for the info, agent. I still don't know who that is but he sounds like a bitch.

>>529776093
There's also a pattern to when the ultra tard posting happens; it's usually around this time of day.

>>529776246
next sloppa bond
>pay
>for the privilege
>to grind more
lmao

>>529776231
2 different games, 2 different audiences.
Aurics are piss easy and Havoc is just retardedly difficult to the point of being both unfun and unfair. Like spawning 3 monstrosities, lieutenants and 1 captain with a heal aura and everything else has a damage reduction aura on them. I sure fucking love that.
I want a gamemode that is in between auric damnation/maelstrom and havoc that still provides me with proper actual challenge while also not being so retardedly difficult that it becomes more of a chore to play than an actual game that you play for fun.

And fact is that most of the playerbase wants this, evidenced by the fact that Havoc is half-dead most of the time and only gets any major activity during peak game hours or during an update.
While Auric stays populated by no matter what because 99% of the playerbase would rather play that, than play the cock & ball torture simulator.

>>529770597
I hate you

>>529776632
It's 4pm in Moscow and 6pm in India right now.

>>529776723
>I need some form of challenge
>BUT NOT THAT HARD, I'M GETTING FILTERED REEEEEEE
just play aurics and shut the fuck up

>>529776460
why are you there sis

>>529776723
>I want a gamemode that is in between auric damnation/maelstrom and havoc that still provides me with proper actual challenge while also not being so retardedly difficult that it becomes more of a chore to play than an actual game that you play for fun.
People fail to understand that for this to happen player power needs to be reigned back in. You don't even need to give a fuck about havocs in that regard. The playerbase that enjoy it will welcome the extra challenge, whilst aurics become enjoyable again.
As it stands auric is just press w to win in 15-20 minutes and the sweats already started doing duos on h40.

All I want is to go back to running chill auric mael monstrous duos with my homie without falling asleep

>what you dont want game trivializing OP shit? You must not be playing havoc...
ah yes because havoc is unaffected by powercreep and op shit and when you abuse the most op shit in the game on havoc its fine and you arent crutching on the cookiecutter meta, right? Its so transparent what your real worry is, you dont want your crutches nerfed because you cant do havoc without them

>>529776723
>I crave a real challenge
>No, not like that

>>529776493
>has a minor meltie over my post, in which I actually agreed with his point, but he didn't read it or infer context because he's too low IQ, brain-fogged, and autismed out of his mind
Anon, remember your therapy lessons. Take a deep breath, step away from the computer, and remember to take your meds. If you're still upset after a short break, take a hit from your CBD pen.

any new rat news

>>529776723
The real problem is the deranking system creating a terrible environment for quick play. It's not even the party finder because I bet lobbies would fill up at least slightly quicker if people weren't at such risk of losing so much progress. But they could definitely find a better system than the party finder.
The challenge of Havoc is fine, this is where I disagree with you. I like overwhelming odds

>>529776723
I don't appreciate racism against video game CBT enjoyers.
Please understand, I have 2200 hours. I need the game to crush my balls for me to even feel something. That's why havoc is fun.

But I do think you are correct in saying most people want something between Auric and Havoc. (that isn't havoc 25-33)
I wish they expanded on the Maelstrom concept.

>>529776987
rats are over
no more rats
ever

>>529776493
superiority complex caused by feelings of inferiority so you resort to projection

>>529777043
Just let people host their own games with map and modifier selection. Modifiers being both havoc and map specific ones. Assign each modifier a point value like heat or threat and make it quickplayable based on heat/threat range.

Problem solved.

>>529776809
>I love getting kneecapped

>>529777216
>expecting the swedoid cunts to do actual work
>expecting them to actually come up with a NEW system instead of rehashing a pre-existing one
Grim.

>>529777251
you wanted to be kneecapped and couldn't handle it

>>529777314
I don't expect them to do anything but vacation. I'm merely voicing what any sane and non-swede person would do to solve this.
Swedish gaming is basically just vidya flavoured suffering.

>>529777251
>removed havoc toughness and HP penalties
>adjusted enemies to deal additional damage with identical 1:1 results to everyone's effective HP
I bet you would unironically think this is somehow better when it is effectively almost the same thing.

Are there any good boltgun builds for the Arbitrator or is it just not ideal for his playstyle? Bolt pistol seems to work better generally and completed the Dredd aesthetic.

>>529777414
Sweden is holding good gameplay hostage.

>>529777485
Castigators with the ammo reload, the extra ammo and ranged damage talents and you can almost fire double the amount.

>>529777041
fully agreed. I play only with randos. Got h40 and true survivor in h1.0, then got back up when they reset it to 30. I had fun only the first time because we could try all we wanted. Nu-havoc feels like 75% of games you get punished for someone elses mistake, it's just not fun anymore, so now I stick to playing borderline mentally disabled builds on auric maelstroms (still too easy tho)

>>529777445
if it removes piss toughness yes am all for it

>>529777485
it's pretty good

>>529777445
Do you know how havocs toughness and hp reductions work? with flat values
meaning you cant even reproduce it this way, and if you tried itd be better because it wouldnt disproportionately affect classes without gold toughness

>>529777485
Bolter is good. Some people consider it to be better than bolt pistol, but that's a high havoc take. You don't need the bolter's raw DPS or ammo in aurics.
You can either just carry a boltgun with puncture and use the dog, which is effectively just a longer wield time bolt pistol with more ammo and better mag dump.
Or you can build more heavily into ranged damage and melt monstrosities with mag dumps, while sniping with castigator's.

>>529777649
>>529777729 yes
Funnily enough, removing toughness penalties and instead adjusting enemy damage would effectively nerf gold toughness, because part of its power comes from the flat increase in toughness you gain. Gold toughness is part of why some builds can get away with zero toughness investment and still be very durable.

>>529773294
>>529772205
Thanks you Anons. Most guides I watched just said "I dunno just dodge lol" and at most explained about the weapon dodge limit but never really went into detail.

>>529777445
It would be better because it would make abilities that don't give piss toughness (additive bonus) more comparable to the ones that do.
The only reason it's not like that now is because hecking youtubers that they listened to for balance wanted their hecking youtube guide builds to be stronger than any build that doesn't use those.

>>529777881
you can "train" at dodging in the keep, there's also a mod in the workshop which gives you each weapon effective dodge number (past that your dodge is much more sluggish)

>>529770597
I love you

>>529768604
>>529771074
>brain so addicted to lootbox gambling he actually misses gacha grinding for weapons
>calls others sheep and goyims

>>529778095
I am convinced that it's bait or underageb&, because the only plausible alternative is a truly worrying level of retardation.

>>529778095
>no you don't get it, I NEED the most optimized meta shit or I'm missing out!
yes, don't you have a social media post to be outraged about, goy?

>>529778429
whats funny is that the gacha system disproporrionately affected off meta weps because they usually needed more specific rolls to be fun. Theres a reason nobody ever used thunderhammers back then

>>529778571
do you even know what gacha means? is every rng system a gacha to you?

>>529778693
I know what gacha means, and darktides old system was one

>>529778937
so you were spending real money to get weapon rolls? sure, buddy

>>529779115
>gacha is only when you spend real money

'Member when fatshark wanted the stats to be as vague as possible and just be bars? Lol. What were they thinkin'?

Are we dumping defenses or power output on the maul & shield, and which variant are we preferring? I haven't used them both extensively but the Mk VI seems better.

>>529779115
gacha isn't just about spending real world money, anon. you should look it up.

>>529779351
Power output is important because the flashbang is important. Dump defenses.
6 is easier to use.

Should I get repo or peak? Or is there better cheap coop slop I can play with my brother

>>529779661
this general is for actual videogames and not voipslop / friendslop / streamslop

>>529779351
Dump Defenses. And yeah, I easily prefer the 6.

>>529779661
You should take your brother to Wendy's and get burgers for that game money, mb bring friends too. That the best coop game you can play rn

>>529779327
>>529779405
it quite literally means spending real money, look it up before typing out retardation

Also this term is used mainly when you have a small chance to obtain a certain item increasing with every time you roll

>>529779661
actually, getting 2 copies of borderlands 3 for 3$ is a good coop investment

>>529779979
but the devs of darktide cattered to the playerbase that didn't want loot grinding and prioritizes casual fun, making it a friendslop

>>529780298
loot grinding is fucking gay and im tired of pretending it isn't. if your game isn't inherently fun without a grind you shouldnt make it at all

>>529780296
>want to run, gun and loot epic gear? sure buddy, just wait for Lilith (completely different character than in bl2 btw) to stop speaking ;)

>>529780406
so what's fun in running the same missions with the same loadout over and over again in darktide? That's sounds boring if you aren't rewarded for it in any way after some time

>>529780416
That's why it's good to play in coop. Mute the dialog and you can fit in a quick smoke break, grab your food delivery or watch a funny youtube vid you just remembered, while Maya is dying in a cutscene. ez gg relaxing casual bro gayming right there.

>>529780518
Penances, Havoc ranks, actually enjoying the moment to moment gameplay?

>>529780827
what's the fun in clearing the hard content if you are running with the same meta shit everyone else is?
>enjoying the moment to moment gameplay
like you can't do that AND get a weapon drop after you finished the mission

>>529780518
Stop baiting with "muh rewards", it's getting old and boring. People actually play video games for genuine fun, not whatever Skinner box bullshit your zoomer brain is addicted to.

>>529781005
You shouldn't have found out about this website but there are people who have deeper needs than just "omg things go boom boom, so edgy this shit is fire!". If you find cleaving hordes of shitty mobs with the exact same gear in the exact same missions over and over again you are genuinely not a human, or you probably play this game for 2 hours a day which means you should shut the fuck up about what is fun

Yet another Havoc 39* with randoms beaten with 0 text or mic communication. Ogryn was dead half the game. No piss, no bubble, just 2 Arbiters with charge, 1 Arbiter with Nuncio and 1 Ogryn who didn't know how to dodge slide and scored lowest damage. Next you'll say Arbites is le overpowered or something even though he has no bubble, piss, infinite cleaves, flame staff, rumbler, etc., which you all couldn't beat Havoc with even if your team had all of these and a decent Ogryn, or even if you played Arbites yourself.
Stick to your Snorics, HA HA.

>>529781223
Here's your (You)

>>529781223
caca amirite fellow 4chinian? huehuehuehue

>>529781402
>amirite fellow 4chinian
I don't get this muh you are trying to fit in or whatever bullshit. yes, you should stick to your echo chamber and let those who are repulsed by it have their own place

>>529781223
No fucking way you just typed all that. "Deeper needs" bro, really? lmao

>>529781545
too many words in a single sentence huh? not using the echo-chamber approved talking points?
>lmao
yep

>>529781697
>NOOO I CAN'T POSSIBLY BE WRONG
>EVERYONE ELSE IS WRONG
The sheer level of delusion

>>529781697
>pot
>calling kettles black

>>529781795
wrong? wrong in what? this entire "discussion" is about preferences, to which redditors seem to respond with outrage
>THERE ARE MORE OF US, THEREFORE WE ARE WINNING
truly a mask off moment

>boss fight
>Auric Maelstrom
>can't keep up execution order
>or someone else kills any elites or special that appear
>damage drops significantly
Should I just go Forceful?

>>529770895
>>529771651
Haven't the death guard been giving them a crash course in heresy lately?

>>529781541
we should split the threads amirite guys? huehuehuehuehue
havoc bad huehuehuehuehue
rng good huehuehuehue
caca!

>>529781929
retard

>>529781223
playing is the reward
>insanity diatribe
variety is only good when it makes something better

>>529782163
Say "caca" one more time, I dare you, rat...

>>529782356
B..but you're a rat yourself.

>>529781002
>what's the fun in clearing the hard content if you are running with the same meta shit everyone else is?
You want to do that but you want it to be incredibly tedious to find the meta shit instead

>>529782301
this game doesn't offer a story, competitiveness, build variety. Where is the reward, exactly? What am I getting rewarded with? Boom boom on screen? fucking lmao. This game could be great but it seems to be reduced to just background activity while socializing with fellow normalfags

>>529782487
retard

>>529780172
you made all of that up on the spot

why so many schizos?
>checks calendar
oh sharts have freedom day tomorrow

>>529770895
Yes and no.
Death guard ambushed Tau expansions in the Starside Nexus.
Tau's souls are so small they're not see worth eating by daemons and have ended up being similarly resistance to chaos corruption like blanks.

>>529782424
I am a proud short member of a dawi clan. Your eyes trick deceive you, rat

>anyone trying to discuss against the echo-chamber approved talking points is a hecking schizo!

>>529782487
to play is the reward

>>529783170
you grind rank in cs

>>529783195
not in 1.6, which is what i posted

>>529783314
well I didnt play it, but that game offers a challenge in the form of other players, you "grind" to get better and outcompete the other players. Not the case with darktide, where you battle AI

>>529770895
Tau think daemons are just xenos

>>529783464
we played 1.6 because it was fun. It wasn't that serious.
and we play darktide because it's fun.

>>529783610
yes because video games are a different version of movies for you. Hopefully one day normalfags will poison another hobby and gaming will heal

>>529770597

>>529783761
Straight up wrong. Maybe you can't understand the nature of play because you never played hide and seek as a child.

>>529783947
I did though. what does playing hide and seek with your friends have in common with playing a video game with randoms just for the sake of playing?

>>529784059
>what does playing hide and seek with your friends have in common with playing a video game with randoms just for the sake of playing?
The commonality is that there's no reward at the end.
To play is the reward.

>>529783831
That's not funny.

You fucking newfags.
Stop engaging in conversation with someone who is either baiting or too genuinely autistic, retarded, or schizophrenic to have a conversation with. This shit has been circular for nigh on three threads now.
Stop responding.

Instead of removing the crafting locks they should've allowed you to turn weapons into NFTs to buy or sell on a marketplace so you could make money off your perfect rolls.

>>529783831
That's funny.

>>529784427
Retard. Samefag.

>>529784383
Oh my bad, I've been on vacation. Didn't know this was a current thing.

>>529784205
every game offers this "reward" in a different way, you play hide and seek as a way to socialize. If you play with randoms socialization is out of the question, usually games that pair you with people you don't know offer competitiveness. Darktide doesn't. It doesn't offer a cool story either. The playing for the sake of playing would make sense if there weren't thousands of video games available.
Without loot grinding this game offers you fun for maybe 100 hours, probably much less.

>>529782487
it's like trying to quantify where the enjoyment in music is. is it the drum sounds? guitar picking? singer bellowing lyrics? there isn't any inherent "reward" to music but many people still listen to it, though i don't. most of the time i just perceive it as noise. in fact more often than not, rather than listening to music, i'll throw on white noise like a thunderstorm or jungle ambience or something.

what you are secretly doing is actually a perverse form of labor. you spend your time earning a digital currency (video game points) to spend them (loot upgrades) to better earn a digital currency.

>>529784550
see
>>529783170

>a redditor calling someone a newfag
>>529784383
>>529782968

It's not the same case with music. I sometimes listen to music (as in, it's my main activity of that moment, I just stare at the screen and listen) because I like listening to music with some sort of meaning behind it, usually historical one. I don't listen to the typical anglo slop about love or whatever. And just because what you call "people", and what I call normalfags or goyim, do it doesn't mean shit.

>what you are secretly doing is actually a perverse form of labor. you spend your time earning a digital currency (video game points) to spend them (loot upgrades) to better earn a digital currency
that's because the crafting system is shit, having random drops would fix this. And then I would enjoy myself with a good weapon because I'd know that it was hard to get

>>529785167
shit I didn't tag you
>>529784608

>>529777141
Nigga in the back seems hyped to play, I want him in my aurics.

>>529785425
Can I join your aurics too?

Oh boy, reginald just posted the most saltass video I've ever seen

Ok guys, your honest opinion on Smoke Grenades on Vet?

>>529785789
Caca-tier

>>529785789
id rather have frags or kraks

>>529785789
If you're gonna bring the bad grenades at least choose kraks

>>529782968
wtf did you mean by that post, Ivan...? it's like you tried to cram sum of twitter schizos into a single .bmp, lol

>>529785789
Useless garbage outside of havoc.
Quite nice in havoc, but requires that the team makes it work. Good in teams without bubble. Would still prefer kraks, but if you bring smokes, I assume you know what you're doing.

>>529785953
what do they do anyway ikve never used em or seen em get used

>>529770768
rent free

>>529776987
bump

>>529786000
It fucks with enemy AI in a way that makes them unable to target you with certain attacks, and they last a really really long time. It's just purely a support tool, and all of those are useless in aurics, the gamemode where you have four people playing singleplayer in different corners of the map.

>>529785953
I just cant imagine situation where i have normal bleed ones and think "damn, wish i had smoke". Like, I LITERALLY CANT THINK OF A SITUATION. WHEN I WOULD WANT SMOKES.
They should turn it into some type of a pepper-gas that makes enemies deal less melee damage and miss ranged shots. OR makes all melee hits against enemy count as "backstab" damage. That can make theme semi-useful.

>>529785541
Ofc: For shitters it's a run ruined by console plebs but for me it's just another successful carry, with a "gg" at the end

>>529786332
poor guy is panicking so badly. bro has no idea what to do

>>529786282
Frags don't bail you out of GUNNER ALLEY, while smokes let you just walk through it unmolested. They're more proactive, since you can't just drop a frag and dodge/block until whatever problem was bothering you in melee resolves itself.
They definitely are weird, but absolutely worth using if your team knows how to play around them.

>>529786332
fucking lost

it is time to play middle tree ogryn with a shield and perhaps a ripper :)

>>529786442
>but absolutely worth using if your team knows how to play around them.
I have never heard more polite way of saying "vet has two grenades"

>>529786332
I would have genuinely uninstalled the game after this

>>529786332
>AWAITING RESCUE
Nice carry

I'm afraid of people being mean to me In these kinds of games because I suck

>>529786282
>I LITERALLY CANT THINK OF A SITUATION. WHEN I WOULD WANT SMOKES.
when there's 20 flamers and snipers and dogs and gunners and they are not all within a frag grenade's aoe

>>529787905
As you should, bitch.

Do we smoke ourselves or the enemy? Was that ever figured out?

>>529787905
Close your steam profile while playing, this will filter the most unhinged ones. Outside of end game content most ppl don't care beyond quick "u trash bad" into leave combo. It's nowhere near as graphic as what you get in mobas, pvp team games or MMOs.
Plus, if you are actually bad, you will get stuck in an appropriate difficulty and keep enjoying the game there.

This is probably the most normalfagged place on this entire site, which inspired me to make this

>>529788753
you smoke the area you are going to spend most of the next 30 seconds within

>>529788773
And here is a filled one by me, based on the 2 day long discussion
I should have added "tranime picture" now that I think about it

I propose we ignore the retard and his bingo card.

Agreed

the most powerful warrior discord can muster, everybody
moving on

>>529788773
>popular = good
I can tell you're the cunt who got assblasted because people don't want dogshit RNG in this game.

Stop responding to obvious bait or he'll never stop shitting up the thread, dumbfuck newfags.

>>529789034
i love rng. The more chaotic - the better.

Lets restore the feng shui with a powerful, positive image

>>529789034
the anon that responded to you isn't me, fyi
>>529789126
>>529782968

Forgot to cross Ad Hominem, obviously

>>529789034
>popular = good
People who think like that are exact same type of people who think "popular = bad"

>>529789238

What exactly is stopping Fatshark from making a Cata equivalent for Poxclick?

>>529790224
Work

>>529790224
veteran is harder than auric. cata is like havoc 25

>No hotfix today

What's a good sniping weapon for the arbeetus
I was thinking of maybe using the slug shotgun, any other good options?

>>529790446
unironically the default executioner shotgun. it has insane minimum pellet damage

>>529790446
Bolter, bolt pistol
>>529790335
Who the fuck even wants to play low havocs.

>>529790446
bolt pistol, you can whip it out fast

>>529790446
>slut shotgun

>>529790446
Bolt pistol. Equips fast, puncture works with remote detonation, I assume the +% blast radius blessing works with impact grenades but I haven't tested how practical that is.

>>529790523
What, the scattershot one?

>>529785789
best grenades in the game

Will I like Darktide if I liked Vermintide? Well that's a question you probably can't answer, but is there a character for niggers like Kerillian? Also do randoms play like niggers in this game? (solo rushing to get the mission done asap). I don't have anyone to play it with so I'd be playing with randoms

>>529791283
>but is there a character for niggers like Kerillian
Yes. Its either right Vet, or right Zeal.

>>529791283
>but is there a character for niggers like Kerillian?
Kerillian's voice actor is now in the game as female Maul Arbitrator.

>>529791485
How is that anyway, does she sound nice

>>529791283
>is there a character for niggers like Kerillian?
Yes, there is shit like knife zealot
>do randoms play like niggers in this game?
Yes, but it's not usually solo rushing to get the mission done ASAP because the game gates and forces you to group up a couple times per mission. It's retards scouring every last corner of the map for 10 crafting materials, not realizing that they lose more games and thus more resources going out of their way doing this stupid shit, instead of just playing with the group and effectively getting more mats as they go.
>I don't have anyone to play it with so I'd be playing with randoms
Expect complete brainlets in anything lower than auric difficulty. Continue to expect them even in auric, because this game's player base is very retarded.

>>529791568
It sounds like an angry Kerillian in space.
Some of her pain sounds were pulled straight out of Vermintide, I think.

>>529791283
You'll like it and then will be annoyed devs aren't improving it fast enough. Veteran is an elf. It's easier to solo rush then in ratclick due to generalized classes, most end game players do that because they don't need resources you can collect on the map. On the other hand that means you can carry team or just yourself no problem. Also there is more mandatory "all gather hereto proceed" checkpoints.
Overall play it if you want more of the same but different.

>>529791283
Don't bother, the crafting system makes the game dogshit. The loot system is dogshit, you just craft the perfect meta weapon and replay the same missions over and over again with the same loadout.
>>529791583
>this game's player base is very retarded
seconding this, these "people" prefer this goyslop incarnate of a system to RNG

Ignore the baiting retard autisming over the crafting system btw, he's been doing this for 3 threads and we've told him he's retarded in every imaginable way and he's still going.

>>529791971
>ignore the guy going against the echo chamber
why are redditors so easy to spot

>>529790446
Bolt pistol, downside is no cleave.
MkIII Shotgun is terrible at range, it does have a good minimum pellet range but won't do much good at killing anything past 16 meters except snipers.

Did they remove the medicae stations that need batteries? Haven't seen those in a while.

>>529758302
Nah if you want to see an actual tranny general, go check out the fresh Mecha Break gen. Not even on their third thread yet, and it's infested with unironic AGP sex-obsessed coomers doing nothing but posting their pilot OCs in obscene positions and talking about getting fucked by the guards.

>>529792181
I see them all the time in h40 especially on the new maps.

>>529792181
They're still in.

>>529792201
honestly that may be preferable to the rng hating slop consooooming normalfag infestation

Infamous nerftranny Reginald back to seething about Arbites being too strong
He won't rest until every class is Vet-strength will he

>>529792468
He's indian. Everything he touches must turn to shit.

>>529792468
That will be a good thing.

>>529791971
thanks for the heads-up

>tfw TOOONKING
its going very well, brogryns
>frag bomb
>loyal protector
>bonebreaker aura
>heavy hitter

>>529792468
>vet-strength
You mean absurdly good? lmao
What's his beef anyway, why is he crying about them
I'm not gonna go watch his trash

The Veteran's Helbores and Ogryn Rippers should've been hybrid melee weapons. The Grenadier gauntlet needs to be retconned into a Shield + Grenadier Gauntlet

>>529793357
he's crying because his LFG that he voice chats with and has combined thousands of hours can beat the easiest havoc map with their best builds on arbites and ogryn in 15 minutes after theyve retried the map dozens of times

>>529793763
>combined thousands of hours
thousands of hours individually, btw

>>529791283
Ranged combat is more important in Darktide across the board so you'll be doing more shooting than you tend to in ratclick no matter what you play.
Vet is the primary shooty class though.

>>529792323
>>529792352
probably a coincidence then

>>529794512
You will never be a real Morrow.

>>529794512
I've seen this Dr. Phil episode

>>529794512

>>529792468
arbites is strong but so is ogryn. zealot and vet just need buffs. Their kits are old and out of date.

...

STICK THAT UP YER LEX

>>529795537
psyker?

>>529792932
Me with the biggest gun

>>529795569
Fake news...

>>529795593
Take Psykinetic's Aura and shut up, CHUD.

>>529795593

Should I change anything or just go play arbites?

>>529795537
>Zealot needs buffs
Zealot is already stupidly strong, just poorly designed in the sense that they have 1 build and most of their talents are taxes and operative modules

>>529795896
what's the build for stealth knife zealot?

>>529795896
>they have 1 build
Zealot has a fair number of builds, it's just that one is objectively smoother sailing on H40s. Their talent tree does have a huge number of pointless nodes though.

>>529795829
>just go play arbites
this unless you reeeealy like an axe for some reason

>>529795829
just go play arbites with this exact loadout

>>529796107
Arbites has axes...

>>529795569
This is a sign! The cat got the rat!
Felinid class soon... >:3c

>>529796107
axe is unironically my go-to weapon for havoc and maelstroms on arbites

is it gully-man, or ghillie-man?

I'm going into rat withdrawal... I need more rats......

>>529796308

she's pulling an all nighter

>>529796156
>>529796205
Well. Sorry vetbros, I've tried, you class is obsolete.

>>529796308
I can't play Vermintide anymore. Toughness is such a good mechanic.

>>529796361
Thank you blessed ratposter

>>529796308

>>529795829
Replace the ones in red with the ones in green
>Why?
The right side of the top of the tree is strong, +5% movement speed and the +5% more toughness per kill are pretty huge. I understand that the TDR in coherency is appealing though, and you will still have a point to keep it.
>Get back in the fight
Dogshit talent, has a fucking 30 second cooldown. The talent adjacent to it is actually stupidly good.
>For the Emperor
only lasts 5 seconds, it's a joke. The suppression next to it will actually help against gunners
>Focused Fire
You will ideally never reach 5 stacks of Focus, let alone 8. One to two stacks is enough for breakpoints and huge extra damage, you should be pinging everything all the time and not actually paying attention to the stacks because that will take away your attention from actually shooting and surviving.

>>529796391
Post link.

>>529796391
I wish she'd stop being a jump dodger.

>>529796263
second, like gila
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YQX2CsMCB9M

>>529796391
Who?
nevermind I don't care

>>529796509
forgot to add
>Demolition team
It's just a massive boom to the amount of grenades you can spam. The higher in difficulty you go the more this takes effect, naturally, as there will be more enemies. I know this talent has saved my ass more times than I can count in Havoc, giving me an extra nade just from killing a poxwalker and thus allowing me to much more effectively cull the horde

Are Ripper Guns good? I love them cause they remind me of Dawn of War gryns.

>>529796484
you can't just do that, it's against the Lex...

What is with these retards and doing literally ANYTHING other than adding new content to their flagship game?

>>529796738
not in the way youre probably thinking wishing or hoping

>>529796509
>You will ideally never reach 5 stacks of Focus, let alone 8.
Redirect fire will always stay at 8 stacks even if you keep pinging at 1 stack. By not picking focused fire you're nerfing redirect fire.

>>529796797
I don't know what you're talking about.

>>529796827
Then in what way are they good?

>>529796738
The Mark 5 has a better minimum pellet count and accuracy than the others
Can Opener will boost monstrosity damage
Dump ammo to 66% because it will allow you to trigger Blaze Away (more strength per shot) with every shot due to the way the calculation works, massively boosting your DPS at the loss of only 5 bullets in total. Without this dump it will take 2 shots to trigger a stack

>>529795569
You will not be missed.

>>529796797
I don't want to work on my most successful, profitable and popular product, because I'm boaredThe Game of it

>>529796509
I see. Thanks.

>>529796917
for killing crushers

>>529796901
what is with scandinavian devs and board/card games almost nobody will fucking play
>>529797103
A FEW WEEKS OF WORK WOULD NET THEM LITERALLY MILLIONS OF DOLLARS REEEEEEEEEEE

>>529797236
That sounds great

>>529796901
Ok, so which actual card game is this ripping off? Or is this just a normal card deck with darktide artwork stuck to it

Arbites Maul, or Shield Maul?

>the three other players at 20-40% health
>two of them with med packs
>phase where we're just sitting still
>none of them with missing wounds or meme zealots
>all three knocked down one by one
I wonder what you could have done in this here situation

>>529797390
They needed to save those medpacks to deploy on the exit shuttle, please understand

>>529797382
OP vs Comfy

>>529797390
Tunnelvision, happens a lot of shitters, they are in the thick of it so they forget they are HOLDING THINGS.

>>529797382
what the other anon said
I understand the maul can 2 shot havoc crushers but the shmaul has so much more utility outside of damage

What's your favorite Combat Shotgun?

>>529797390
Just happened to me on a maelstrom, psyker even died fuck knows where and we lost his medpack. Sometimes you are just unaware, you know?

>>529797917
Executioners.

>>529797917
>play Arbites
>+25% cleave node
>+75% cleave on push
>+50% cleave on 10 forceful stacks
I haven't tried the combat shotguns but I imagine they must be really good at destroying whole groups of gunners with this

>>529795569
it's ok he's just sleeping

>>529797390
>snoretis trials with all consoloids
>they use the med terminal to just heal, not to cleanse wounds
>everyone is low on health again
>the playstation zealot who appears to be afking to go watch tiktok every single round is holding the meds
>say "i need healing"
>the xboxer pings the med terminal with only one charge left left

>>529798279
>targets aquired (+50% cleave on 10 forceful stacks)
i heard this was bugged and not working?

I fucking hate Masozi so fucking much it's unreal
any suggested builds for psyker? Not even auric/havoc shit, just anything that you would deem fun

>>529798638
It does work. Anon was confused because it doesn't show an icon when you're at 10 stacks, it only shows an icon for the lingering 3 seconds after you lose the 10th stack, but it is indeed working the whole way through.

>>529797605
really no different than watching most people crumble when they play an rts. im almost certain if i put you in the aoe2 ladder or up against an extreme AI you would make the same kinds of mistakes

>>529798796
ok that's nice to hear. And cleave works on ranged too? oh boy

>>529798742
Scrier's Gaze any sword + autogun retard.

>>529798796
Oh and another thing, that talent stacks with itself. If you somehow lose the 10th stack over and over within those 3 seconds, your attack speed will keep increasing indefinitely
I first saw this when spectating an Arbites trying to clutch, got surrounded by the horde and kept smashing at them without blocking or being able to block, so he kept resetting that 10th stack and he was swinging at fucking lightning speed

queue snorics on US east

>>529799185
>US east
Fuck off nigger you'll steal my bike again.

>>529797390
I do not wish to heal you. The tension of missing health should be a reminder to learn from your mistakes. The medipac feels good in my pocket.

>>529799021
That's extremely goofy

>Mortis Trials
>3 arbiters and 1 ogryn
>Wave 12
>Daemonhost
>Ogryn and 1 arbitrator goes down to swarm while the other 2 fight the Daemonhost
>the target goes down and gets nommed
>Other arbitrator kills Daemonhost, clutches round
>No wp

>>529798742
Voidblast staff + melee of choice.

This build looks bad on the surface, but it works really well. I've farmed auric for several months with it.
Crits make you move faster.
Pressing F makes you move faster.
Killing blue guys makes you move faster. And they all stack. And you can move fast while quelling to build your F.

Assail dominates enemy shooters and gunners.
Voidblast dominates hordes.
Melee for self defense.

Which shotpistol has the better spread?

>>529773008
So did they just drop that entire mystery traitor plot that was the entire extent of the story at release?

>>529799971
bottom because it has better damage and reload, and doesn't have 80% mobility

>>529799971
Mobility is the dumbstat. Get it as close to 60% as you can.

>>529799720
Holy fuck no wonder people hate on psyggers if they're running around with builds like this.

>>529798742
>psyker builds
i dont claim that this is good, but i do like it a lot in aurics

>>529799720
You could pick no talents at all and still farm auric.

fucking why

Peak shit itself. :(

>>529800125
If you think scriers+voidblast is bad then you're just uneducated

how come psyker doesnt get full helmets worth a crap

>>529800246
No, the middle part of it is complete dogshit. Also way too much shit on top.

>>529800142
>no psykinetic's aura
Can you stop griefing?

>>529773008
It's the story up to now.
Notice we're missing Refinery Delta-17, Power matrix HL-17-36, (I'm pretty sure) Relay Station TRS-150 and Excise vault Spireside-13 (train). ALSO missing the mission where you load the pox samples.
>>529799991
Not entirely, it's there, it's just much less important. I guess they didn't want to imply the Arbitrators might by heretics.

>>529800184
Martyr ogryn

>>529800409
It's good. Infinite toughness, can play super aggressively, massive clutch potential. Extremely fun build.
You have to understand I'm so far past the point of needing minmaxxed builds I don't care about meta shit. And anon specifically asked for fun builds and that's what this is.

>>529800470
if youre intelligent enough to recognize its value youre intelligent enough to redistribute nodes to get it. stop pretending to be retarded

>>529800142
>3 curios that are pretty much the same thing
wow the ability to craft is so fucking cool, can you imagine how boring the game would be with rng loot?

>>529800142
Great but I'd replace Warp Expenditure with Empathic Evasion, and replace Anticipation with Psykinetic's Aura

>>529800087
>>529800112
Kk, nice, it's also the level 450 one vs the 350 of the other one.

>>529800687
Kill yourself, retard

Can someone weigh in on ogryn shield bulids and blessings for havoc?

>brutal momentum
The +15% weakspot damage seem strong, but I don't think I'm killing enough things with direct damage for ignoring hitmass to matter.
>skullcrusher
Seems like the obvious choice with how much stagger is thrown around, especially chorus, but now also concussive. Likely less good when there's an arbitrator running it.
>opportunist
I figured this might be worth taking since a huge portion of my damage is bleed, and 25% rending on the bleed makes it quite strong against armor.
>confident strike
Seems like shit, the shield likes heavy attacks too much anyway.

I'm curious as to whether there's any way of getting the shield to cleave better, because it feels like even the H1 doesn't hit enough targets. Carapace seems to reliably stop the hit from continuing, even with heavy hitter + cleaver fully stacked up. There's obviously the crits ignore hit mass blessing, but that would mean making a super retarded build for only 20% chance to giga cleave and being taxed 3 points in the process.

>>529798742
this is the ideal psyker build
you may not like it, but this is what peak performance looks like

>>529800926
>ad hominem and a death threat
*yawn*

>>529800940
iirc confident strike works with heavy attacks

>>529800978
>sniper resistance
that is some delicious bait

friendly reminder to not feed the baby trolls

>>529800880
Anon just get one with 60% mobility I beg of you

Seems I'll have to add "le loot is le bad" to my list of things that can rile up retards in this thread.
Heh.

Morbius trials

>>529801336
pls no, we don't need more trolls

>>529801258
That's easier said than done
Plus I'm gonna swap in 1 more mission anyway.
I'm gonna hit 20 on both shield baton and shield pistol

>>529801410
Bold of you to assume there are any organic posters left here.

>>529799298
But I wasn't hurt, all of the rest of the team was

>>529801605
how many microplastics do i need in my testicles before i am no longer ocnsidered organic

>>529801605
i think therefore i am

>>529801605
Notice how abruptly retards calling everyone either a jeet or slavoid vanished. No one fucking does that anymore.

>>529800940
The shield sweep attack has infinite cleave already

>push poxburster away
>dog push it back
>kill entire team

>>529801789
L1 H2 is real good for clearing anything but carapace, but non-carapace enemies aren't usually a threat anyway. Is there really nothing better to do against carapace blobs than just kite?

>>529801336
Things that piss off /vg/ posters
>Playing the games the threads are based on
>Downloading mods
>Playing on anything but max difficulty
>Posting screenshots from in game
>Posting loot from ingame
What else?

>>529801916
DBZ is an anime for Arabs, Latinos, and other third worlders and brown people.

Somebody explain to me why anybody aboard the ship gives a fuck about what Dukane wants.

>>529802041
Welcome, friend. From which discord do you hail?

>>529802041
>complaining about slopshops
>defending slopshops
>complaining about balance(both ways)
>complaining about DLCs
>eceleb shit
>more eceleb shit
>discord shit
>eceleb discord shit

>>529801336
>>529802041
>>529802293
totally not the same person btw.

>>529798998
fuck you too, any suggested autogun?
>>529799720
>>529800142
>>529800978
thank you a lot anons, appreciate it

>>529802195
She has the only combat worthy Guard regiment left under her thumb.

>>529801956
The shield bash should be killing them pretty good already, no? If all else fails, you've got teammates.

>>529802496
>The shield bash should be killing them pretty good already, no?
The damage output is just a little disappointing, is all. I've noticed that I've been struggling to put out enough damage on regen modifiers, even if the scoreboard said otherwise.
>If all else fails, you've got teammates.
That's unfortunately a bit of a bold assumption sometimes.

>>529802041
>playing on anything but max difficulty
there is an exception for darktide gamers because they only enjoy playing on high intensity malice

>>529802457
Well the 21st is still around but they're mostly holding the line and adding to the groaner problem.

>>529802457
That is a solid bargaining chip. Shame she's such a pain to listen to.

>>529802429
"Retard" was in reference to gunpsyker. Just run infantry vraks, people will tell you to use columnus but retards at fatshark switched the names around at some point and old columnus is currently vraks.

>>529802681
Shield is gonna have disappointing damage yeah, the price to pay for blocks against ranged. Honestly, I don't think you can bring shield into pink shit. You need things like pickaxe, with massive burst damage. Rumbler or Gauntlet so you can stagger enemies and pick out the pink one. That's just what I think

>>529796361
wanna eat that burrito...

>>529803015
Yeah that about reflects my experience as well. I kinda like the shield, at least enough to run it in aurics, but with the current havoc season being so unfriendly to shield builds, I think I'll avoid playing ogryn entirely. I acknowledge how disgustingly powerful the pickaxes can be, but I just don't like them. Not that I mind, I'm not particularly invested in playing ogryn anyhow.

>>529802195
Fatshark was out of ideas and had to come up with something quick. You like horribly over-acted characters who are unnecessarily biting, right? Her dialogue quality is Hallowette tier, even if she's not irritatingly "quirky"

>>529803357
I miss Lord Bernn.

>>529802425
totally

>>529803248
I always go Arbites and tell the dog to kill the pinks. I can't imagine lone wolf is better than that unless you've got shock mines and a flamer zealot or psyker
>>529803357
I hate her creaky ass voice, terrible acting

>>529802195
That's the fun part, They don't.
Rannick is very specifically doing the bare minimum to accomodate her, only every "requested" courtesy afterall.

>>529803104
can you imagine how stressful it must be to be the guy that has to tattoo an ogryn
but i imagine they got servitors for that

>>529802195
She commands one of the few guard regiments that they can use to fight against the heretics with.
Remember while we as the rejects are going around killing moebian 6th on Tertium's streets and fixing factories and whatever. The 21st and 53rd are currently on the outside of the Hive Tertium fighting against the heretics' powers.
That's why the tank production lines are so vital and needed.

>>529803002
>"Retard" was in reference to gunpsyker
keked, my bad
>>529803002
>infantry vraks
I see, thank you

>>529803951
They're also the ones actually holding ground, the rejects by their very nature as strike teams are more about doing an objective and then leaving.

>>529800670
Did you reply to the wrong person or are you too retarded to figure out what happened? Do you need me to give you a quick rundown of who replied to who and why or can you figure it out yourself?

Explain.
>3 psykers + arby
Extremely organized
>1 psyker + 2 arby + 1 zealot
Chaotic bullshit

>>529803945
Why? I don't think you could hurt an ogryn with a tattoo gun. You'd maybe tickle him a little.

>>529804313
i dont run psykinetics aura because people in aurics dont deserve to use their abilities

>>529804603
The psykers, with their low testosterone levels, naturally seek shelter in the strong arms of arby

>>529804603
all zealot mains yearn for chaos, speed, and disorder

the sex is the lex!

>>529803486
DRIVE ME CLOSER, I WANT TO HIT THEM WITH MY SWORD

that reminds me, I need to play more loner psyker to post some more banter with arbies

Which staff does Assail comliment best?

So if DSIV gets nerfed into irrelevancy, what weapons are gonna take its place?
>inb4 just combat knife (I hate combat knife)

>>529805209
a gun

>>529804603
>2 frontliners covering 1 angle
>1 guy sitting at the back
>1 guy zooming around trying to do everything at once
vs.
>3 guys at the back covering the 1 guy frontlining
or the most likely explanation
>the second team simply sucked
>the RNG was not in your favor
and if it's the same people as the first team, then they simply are worse at those classes

>>529805287
we go back to power sword for vet and knife for zealot

>>529805287
The arbites shock maul has already taken its place. It's the DS but with horde clear.

>>529805335
A psyker... with a gun. Is such a thing possible?

>>529805407
power sword is poopoo

>>529805287
the issue with the combat knife is that it requires way too high of an APM to ever be a legitimate weapon. you never got this issue with elf sword, elf lmao2dagger, elf lmao2sword, elf d&s, axe & falchion, mace & sword, lmao2axe, lmao2hammer (dwarf), or lmao2hammer (wp) even though you literally have double the weapons

>>529804603
What staves were they running? If you had trauma staff then most shit just gets CC'd hard. Inferno staff also clears hordes so fast it never becomes an issue.
If the arby was doing his job and making sure that the psykers never had to switch to melee then it's not really surprising that you dominated.

Good afternoon gentlemen I'm returning to the game after a while (last played around the Carnival level release). I'm gonna be spamming Aurics to learn and max Psyker weps before pushing whatever Havoc is so with that in mind I have some questions:

Blaze Force Greatsword - looks cool but is it worth using over the DS? Is it more Fun?
Staves: I ended up settling on Trauma back then, I've tried the lightning staff but it still feels like dogshit, flamer staff seems kind of bad on Auric, and I've still never tried Voidstrike. Should I grind out flamer staff anyway for future havoc use or will I be able to stick with Trauma?
Have there been any balance changes to headpop/assail/smite? I ended up acquiring a taste for Smite purely to be able to save crusher/mauler rushes, which seemed to be the most common failure point in Damnation pugs, but very quickly dropped it when I started auric/maelstrom.
Should I just be a metafag and play Robocop class if I want speed + pug saving ability?
Lastly I'm running pic related for aurics atm, anything retarded in there? I think I'll end up swapping the stam regen on the curios but idk to what

Has the beloved psyker reached CHIM?

>>529805131
They're pretty mild mostly.
>>I think the system should be improved somewhat
>THE LEX IS THE LEX
>THE LIABILITY IS DOING A KILLSTREAK
>>Haha, I *am* great

>>529805287
Most likely you'll see Vets running power sword and nothing else because there is a power gap between that and every other option
Psykers and Zealots still have several great options

How does Havoc deranking work in the ranked system?
t. returning player

>>529805287
The other dueling sword with the H1 stab, lol.

>>529805476
It shouldn't be but it do.

>>529805669
It was trauma, shock and flame staffs. Arby was shooting a lot. Basically everyone was mostly ranged, but switched to melee during pure horde. Bosses melted.

>>529805704
Comparing any weapon to the DS makes it look like shit. But yes the greatsword is incredible and havoc viable still.
Voidblast staff is still good.
The current gavoc season has final toll which will turn your smite close to useless half the time. Brain burst is a meme, Assail is for damage amp
Psyker has carry potential, especially with trauma. Nowhere near as easy as every other class tho

Power axe when?

>>529805996
Is there one actually coming to SM2?? Hype. Power Axe fucked in SM1.

Anyone else not really feeling the benefit of the dog talents in Aurics? The bleed and canine morale don't seem to actually do that much.

>>529805704
>3 exact same curios
holy mother Science (TM)... the superiority of the crafting system has been revealed to me... I... kneel...

>>529806061
yep coming in a few days

>>529806093
do you only have fun if people have fun the way you have fun?

>>529806157
that's awesome. now if they only make make Assault not absolute cancer to play we'll be golden.

Best ogryn melee weapons?

>>529805996
Powerfist for veteran when
>>529806276
the club

>>529806276
Club 3, all pickaxes, shield.

I don't know which keystone is worse.
One's a slog, the other is a slog and has 2 different parts.

>>529806240
until they completely redesign sm2 to not be parrycringe rollslop it'll never not be cancer to play

>>529806089
I had a lot of uptime to Canine Morale if my Power DI wasn't lying to me (~12 minutes uptime in ~15 minute mission IIRC). Bleed is currently impossible to quantify because its damage state isn't registered to the dog or your own stats in any way (or something like that is what I've read on one of the scoreboard discussion pages).

>>529806276
club
pickaxe(NOT BRANX)
shield
super secret option grenadier gauntlet with all melee focused blessings

>>529806276
Unironically all of them are great, Ogryn does a shit ton of damage no matter what, just Club and Pickaxe stand out. One of few cases where you can just use what you find most fun even in Havoc.

>>529806392
Execution order is the best keystone and the one you should be using by default unless you have good reason to use foceful. There should be no reason to view doing this penance as "a slog" or grind or whatever else. Just fucking play normally.
It's the retarded terminus warrant penance that's cancer because the keystone is awkward as fuck and barely even worth the points.

>>529806392
Meant to use this one lol

Hehehe

>>529806618
>kill enemies
wow so hard!!!

>>529806771
Weakest bully club user vs nurgle's strongest crusher

>>529806392
terminus warrant penance wasn't too bad, since you can reap hordes for it. A combat axe and a shotgun to make the most of each stack made it go by faster.

>>529806598
Yeah IDK why everyone said this was such a good build.

>>529805996
the better question is power axe, who?
I want it on tactical and vanguard. I'm fucking tired of the shoulder bash skip on chainsword. Make that shit obsolete, please.

>>529805986
ty. It's baffling that fatshart gave the DS to vet/zealot but if it's getting nerfed because of that then I guess I ought to learn the greatsword
>>529806093
low iq bait. If I can choose from a bunch of small bonuses when customizing my build, I want to stack them into my most desired choices. If this is not intuitive to you, you may be retarded

>>529807026
DAMN!
Leaked mechanicus class.

>>529807047
it's for the new class

>>529806994
Replace Target Neutralised with something useful like Walk it Off or Ammo

>>529807173
new class is not coming in september with the power axe

>>529807121
Psyker can do way more damage than Vet and Zealot with the DS4, so even then it's his best weapon too. It takes Scrier's Gaze, a stacked Disrupt Destiny and high peril.

>>529806994
No one thought this looks like a good build

>>529806994
>shittercrutch stance
>dog build without execution order
I'm not even going to get into the rest, this build is retarded

>>529807427
>Shittercrutch stance
spoken like a true ASS title holder

>>529807026

>tfw malicelet
>die all the time
>never manage to dodge dogs, netters, or the fucking green hugger guys
i dont understand how you people do it honestly. youre all like literal gods to me im not even joking

>>529807359
I was told to do it when I started with my arbitrator.
However, I have since made a build I quite enjoy. I know it's not great but I truly have been enjoying it.

>>529807512
What the fuck are you talking about, retard, 1 point stance is literally inferior to nuncio in every way imaginable.
>inb4 he doesn't know

>>529807617
MORE LENSES

>>529807121
it's not an attack towards you, but towards the sloppy crafting system making the looting obsolete. No need to get so aggresive, brown subhuman

>>529806413
Vanguard plays just fine because his talents are good.

>>529806392
Complaining about this penance registers the same as all the complaints about Heavy Hitter to me. Yes it's long but you're playing one of the best keystones so who gives a fuck? Just enjoy it.

So which one is 'superior'?
Damage wise it looks like VI, however I've not looked at XI's swings yet, how's it compare?

>play cop for 20 hours straight
>level 30
>all weapon penances
>all but the most annoying and grindy ability penances
havent touched him since release day. the only thing that really appeals to me about it is double shield build since there's some novelty to it, but i don't care about all the other stuff.

>>529808230
>push followthrough, light, heavy, light
>light, heavy overheads
>light spam into heads
The VI is generally accepted to be the easier and more effective one.

>>529807941
Quick question. Where you officially allowed by you discord friends to use 4chans signature vulgar lingo to blend in with a thread or are you doing it as a shadow saboteur and will get in trouble if they find out about your caca mouth?

>>529807689
It's all in practice. I used to feel stressed on damnation, overwhelmed in aurics, now I can play auric maelstrom in my sleep. Dog/trapper/mutant SFX register in your subconscious and you can reliably dodge them with your back turned. Just have to keep playing. Frankly I miss the stress.

>>529808394
Stop falling for the obvious bait you fucking newfag.

>>529808394
it's almost funny how you call me a discord user because I'm going against the echo-chamber approved talking points. It's always the same with you redditors, projection, projection and once again, projection. Off yourself, now. Your life is pointless anyway

https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/9f3bbb93-9de5-499c-b22b-dab0d0e25a67/metahavoc-40-the-immortal-grand-provost-marshal

Ew.

By the Throne, Provost! Leave some for the rest of us!

>>529805704
Nothing is worth using over DS
It has decent range and damage to carapace but attack speed is lacking just like all 2-handed weapons and I don't remember cleave being particularly good. Also mobility and defense is worse than one handed force sword so most people use that if they don't want DS4 crutch.
Robocop has insane ability to keep himself alive but not much for keeping others alive, besides being a frontliner and wrecking hordes before they can damage your friends, but this is something that works in maelstroms, but not in havocs with its dense hordes and increased hit mass. If you really want to save, you need a zealot with chorus and pious cut-throat

>havoclet rank 23 dares open his mouth to give his opinion
Haha, cute.

>>529809116
>attack speed is lacking, just like all 2-handed weapons
The global attack speed nerf to all one-handed weapons cannot some soon enough.

Need hadron to service me with a mechadendrite

>Playing arbites with tactical axe
>Make a macro to spam m1
>Hold that shit the whole game
You have no idea how well it work. This is peak.

>>529809373
>tfw no tech-priest to tend my relic

>>529807689
It will click, just takes time to practice. Get punched enough in the face and you'll stop closing eye and running away. Plus many anons here have played loads of ratclick too. You are probably tunnel visioning too much, try and deliberately turn around from time to time.
>>529808768
no dog = no balls

>>529809373
Can she bless my pp to enhance its performance?

>>529809476
This is true with basically every melee weapon

>>529809476
this but combat axe
one keybind for light attacks spam for horde clear
another keybind for heavy attacks spam for carapace

MANDATED EDICT:
MAULING

SEXUS SHOTACORIS SPOTTED

>>529807941
The imbecile-designed grind, specifically the sheer level of RNG and the whole nonsense around camping the shop timer just to get the fucking base weapon you wanted to try out - not even a well-statted one with the blessings you're looking for! - drove my only (irl) friends who picked this game up away less than a month after release. I remember it took me >2 months to get a decent power sword with cycler 4 on it for my Vet.
You're a moron + I'm probably whiter than you.

>>529810049
female arbites are perverts

>>529810130
good, get normalfags out of the gaming industry, you should leave too
Best case scenario your skin is white, but your soul is that of a brown man, or rather, you dont have one

>living in a shithole hive crowded to death and constantly looking over your shoulder for gangers, heretics, etc.
>conditioned to be a borderline unthinking machine of a person, under constant stress and pressure
>only companions are your weaponry, a deformed half-metal dog, and your superiors breathing down your neck
All I'm saying is, I refuse to believe Arbitrators don't fuck the dog.

>shitter starts insulting me in turk
>check steam profile
>german flag
kek everytime

>>529810616
>living in a shithole hive crowded to death and constantly looking over your shoulder for gangers, heretics, etc.
that's the fate of every non-European

>>529809476
macro mods have ruined this game
fuck you

>>529810616
What would you do in situation like that? Be honest.

>>529810448
>your soul is that of a brown man
You seem to think that a game revolving around ~20-30 minute co-op PvE missions should be designed to cater to the taste of NEETs, so I'm inclined to believe this is projection.

>>529810665
I just call them Greek and watch the meltdown.

>>529810725
A woman had her eyes gouged out with a screwdriver by an immigrant where I live like a few days ago or so.
t. Euro

>>529811105
lemme guess
german / west of germany?

>>529811178
>german
Correct.

>>529811105
Deserved

>>529811105
Oh I forgot that he also raped her and mutilated her in other ways. She was in a coma for 2 weeks and then died in the hospital. I love living here!

>>529811273
I was in berlin once
honestly disturbing how fucking shit it is, grafitty and trash everywhere, mentally ill people at every corner (hobos without pants but also I remember a woman screaming her lungs out at a phone like a maniac)

>>529811105
>>529811558
Does anyone over there even care? I can't tell if people are in denial about it, or if apathy is a global trend and not just something I see only here.

Germans are like slavoids, but gay.

Should I buy arbites? I'm new btw

>>529811745
Germans can't say anything bad about people they don't like, because they will be insta accused of being a Nazi.

>>529811923
Ironically, I'd say it's something for new players since the level up process will put an old player to sleep.

>>529811745
Most people here will just try to argue that Germans do this too so it's not a problem with immigrants. Every male is supposedly guilty of potentially being a violent rapist so it doesn't matter whether you're an immigrant or not, or what your race is. You're generally seen as guilty by association to males.

>>529811946
Might as well learn English while you’re at it.

>>529810778
this game is balanced for faggots who use every way imaginable to cheat

>>529772137
Orks are usually weaker than Ogryns, but would definitely be stronger than others. That said there’s no way we’re getting an Ork with Morrow around lol
Hell they’re liable to start trying to kill is if they get too bored

>>529811923
Get the base game to try it out. If you love doggo that much, then sure get it as well.

>>529812085
I worded this like a retard.
Men commit most violent crime so men are the issue, not immigrants. If you're male you're potentially the same as the screwdriver guy who raped and mutilated a woman by gender association.

>>529772137
If it's an Ork nob he'd be about as strong as ogryn yea.

>>529812208
No thanks you.

>>529811923
It's a very good class. Do it if you wanna.

>>529772137
I'd rather have Orks as a new enemy faction.

>>529810793
>NEETs
thanks

>>529773008
They never said it was going to be any of that dude. I get the letdown but it was explicitly just a way for them to make the narrative more coherent

>>529807689
It just takes time. Between the two -tide games I have 1400 hours played. The more you play, the more stuff will become automatic or instinctual.

>>529807689
*farts in your face* shut up dweeb

Chud!

>>529774357
How long has Chaos Chan been a thing?
>>529774635
Kinda based doe
>>529775109
Kinda cringe doe

>>529813107
Doe? A deer? A female deer?

It's fun with friends!

>>529808768
Looks pretty good, though I'm not sure Hammerblow is necessary with the shield and Forceful.Might be better to swap Hamemrblow for Opportunist and drop Strike Down for Street Smarts. The shield's dodge duration is pretty short.

>>529785789
I’m gonna give you an honest opinion on the bitch you just posted: Would.

>>529809608
>>529813256
no dog no soul

>>529809608
>no dog = no balls
don't worry, the dog doesn't have balls either

I care about the graphics!

>>529790018
Technically true…
>>529790119
I don’t get it.

>instantly starts derailing the thread when called out
man, normalfags are sooo fucking predictable

haha poorfag!

>decide to godroll me a laspistol
>300k later... still not goddamn good roll
I should just wait until I get blessed by what I want showing up in the shop.

>>529809476
The Tac Axe has been like this for a long fucking time but people shit on me when I said it was a good Zealot pick.

>>529810778
Click spamming high-speed weapons is genuinely not comfortable after a single game. A mod to simply spam left mouse is no different than doing it yourself except your fingers wont' hate you for it.
The people who set up macros for entire attack strings to do all their combos for them on the other hand, are indeed faggots.

They should add eversors as a playable class.

>>529811105
>>529811558
RIP. Is it true you guys get shit on for bringing up the immigrants causing a spike in violent crimes like that (especially rapes) and called racists/whatever for it?

>>529813927
I always wonder if those are skull helmets or they got all flesh removed from head for some reason

>>529813927
I honestly didn't think I'd get to see a coomer post posted on here

>>529813383
>nooo you can't play the cop class without le heckin pupperino!!!!11
Ok, reddit. Just ignore part of the class because of your wholesome chungus doggoslave mentality. Cats are superior anyway

>>529813107
Cultist-chan is probably older than some posters here

>>529813218
Yes, have you seen them? Such an erotic creature.

>>529811923
I would buy it on a sale desu but I hate fatshark so that's why

>>529814253
Felinid update when? >:3c