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>WHAT IS HELLDIVERS 2?
HELLDIVERS 2 is a 2024 co-op, squad-based, PvE 3rd person shooter for PC and PS5 where players fight against hordes of alien insects, robots and squids to Spread Democracy. Players wage war on a number of contested planets, each with a different environment, completing as many objectives as possible within a procedurally generated area while constrained by a time limit. With enough successful operations a planet can be completely liberated, and the player base must cooperate to try to liberate the entire galaxy by focusing and combining their efforts as much as possible.
https://store.steampowered.com/app/553850/HELLDIVERS_2/
https://www.playstation.com/en-us/games/helldivers-2/

>WHAT ABOUT THE FIRST HELLDIVERS GAME?
Released in 2015 for PC, PS3/4 and PS Vita, the original HELLDIVERS is the origin of the setting and basic gameplay formula of HELLDIVERS 2. The major difference is that HELLDIVERS is a top-down shooter, its mechanics being based primarily on Arrowhead's first game Magicka.
https://store.steampowered.com/app/394510/HELLDIVERS_Dive_Harder_Edition/
https://www.playstation.com/en-us/games/helldivers/

>LOBBY HOSTING
https://files.catbox.moe/83ixkr.png
>MODDING
https://files.catbox.moe/c81ogo.png

>INFORMATION RESOURCES
https://helldivers.wiki.gg/
https://helldiverscompanion.com/
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/u/0/d/1xA_wuSuV6NORqUCt1aZ203raG4HuUJ85btqmn0ld56U/htmlview

>MAJOR NEWS
May 13-20 1.003.000 (Heart of Democracy) https://store.steampowered.com/news/app/553850/view/516335345719051928
Jun 12 Force of Law https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uHuOJoeXdYA


>LATEST PATCH
Jun 24 1.003.104 https://store.steampowered.com/news/app/553850/view/516339151333753417

Patch today right guys?
We're gonna get a fix for the dumb stun shit not working and cowboy armor?

>>529821452 (OP)
You don't know how close you niggers came to the Essex edition. Don't let it happen again.

Lobby doko?

>>529821920
we would have ignored your thread anyway pedo

So the reason the recent patches have been so dogshit both bug and content wise is because most of the team has been porting the game to the Xbox over the past 6 months, right? Surely now that they've announced the Xbox port they'll go back and speed up content production, right?

>>529821920
Would've been too based.

>>529822085
I wouldn't bet on it. Xbox and Playstation have been more or less the same hardware since the previous gen. Porting shit is not difficult.

sniping bot heads is really fun until your dumbfuck teammate manages to lead multiple patrols right to you and get a bot drop called down right on top of you

>>529822752
that's why it's good to carry a DMR for sniping and an autocannon for unfucking your safety situation

Justice for all Helldivers just as soon as Arrowhead finishes porting the game to Ouya.

>bugdiving with medium mg
>struggling to keep the trash down even at max rmp
>everything on the map trying to jump up my ass whenever i have to reload
>reconfigure for stalwart next match
>picrel

>>529822476
>.
Stopped reading there.

>>529822085
Expect everything to be this slow forever now that they have to make everything with xbox in mind.

>>529822085
Kek. You have no idea what's going to happen with the dumpster fire of a Series S port.

>>529824381
on my copium trips I can see a low spec version of the game that gives a playable framerate at the price of considerably worse graphics on series s tier devices

I just saw two stalkers kissing

>grab a fresh EAT to dispatch a heavy
>turn around to retrieve my support weapon
>nigger stole my support weapon
>replacement still on cooldown
>ask him to return my property
>silence
Is it morally acceptable to gun him down like a dog to get my equipment back? (what I did btw)
How would (You) handle this situation?

>>529824576
Yeah russians are fags we know

>>529824791
shoot him, scuttle my equipment, leave the lobby
if I'm the host I just do the needful and flush

>>529823961
>content release is already glacial
>version control is appalling
>stability and optimization are even worse
>now they have to keep a 3rd platform in mind
>and that 3rd platform's retarded, anemic little brother
This is the beginning of the end. Or was it already over? I don't know anymore.

>>529825295
OY VEY SHUT IT DOWN

>>529824791
>Is it morally acceptable to gun him down like a dog to get my equipment back?
Absolutely.
>(what I did btw)
Excellent choice.

>>529825295
Good. Anyone talking shit about AH should honestly just be executed.

>>529821836
They do move in herds.

>>529824965
>xbots already screaming for crossovers too
We fortnite now

>>529825817
it makes sense, ps fans equate killzone to xbox's halo

post your wishes for the inevitable odst warbond

>>529823346
I don't like how it pretty much does not kill bile spewers, and also it sucks a tad against alpha commanders, both of which the MG43 handles fine

It probably doesn't help that I am also a sucker for how the GM43 looks

>>529826765
I wish that the game dies before it suffers such indignity

>>529825295
>This is the only place left where I can complain about Alexus without getting banned
grim

>>529826853
now there is no need to be so harsh anon just let people enjoy things

>>529826765
I like halo but if they do a crossover it will be the final nail in the coffin for hd2

>>529827171
If you join my lobby with haloslop you're getting teamkilled and booted

>>529827292
hope you do the same for the killzone outfits

>>529825295
Reminder that forum isn't enough of a hugbox for the devs.

>>529827274
care to explain yourself or you are just being a contrarian nigger

>>529827274
Series S has already seen to that

D10 Bots

steam://joinlobby/553850/109775240979025798/76561197999417031

Hurry up I wanna play the game

>they add the Warthog
would you seethe?

>>529827673
i rather have the mongoose frv handles like ass

>>529826765
>Weapon skins
Besides that, I'm okay with everything else.

>>529827673
no
med pen high rof turret would be cool

>>529827673
they pretty much already did you dumb fucking (you)farmer now get lost with your dumb shit questions

>>529824791
>Expendable
I thought people brought EATs so they could share when something big approaches? I always take one and shoot a hulk when a teammate drops one during a bot drop or Bile titan spawn
Am I in the wrong?

>>529827885
Retard or ESL. Call it.

>>529827624
2/4

>>529827885
I think anon means the guy stole his other support weapon.

>>529827673
Frankly, I'd rather have the tank.
Or better yet, player operated Pelican.
>>529827885
I bring EAT's when I play the "pull pin and throw the helldiver with his backpack nuke at a problem" - build.

>>529827624
3/4

>>529827885

>>529828059
ah fuck

>make the gatling gun AP4 like the hmg
>make the rockets laser-guided like the commando
>double the ammo for both weapons(give the rocket pod a reload animation like the rocket turret has)
There, now the Patriot is on par with the Emancipator.

>>529827864
stfu fucking bitch ass little faggot pussy

>>529822752
You should drop some turrets to cover your retreat.

>>529828419
I wish you could just choose what combo of arms you were allowed to bring.

>>529828419
Making the gatling AP4 is retarded.

>waah waah waah I want the warthog
You don't even use the FRV or you'd know we already have a warthog, quit whining

Way more fog, way less enemies starting August!!! Game was fun, buffs and nerfs included, while it lasted fellas. Took it for granted and this is what happens when you shit on what you love. May HD3 not suffer this same fate

>>529821920
piss off

>>529829779
May Allah destroy every console.

>>529829779
>May HD3 not suffer this same fate
If you fall for swedeslop again you deserve it

>>529829574
personally i'd kill for the falcon or hornet
there'd be like 0 way to balance them because flying alone would trivialize most of the game tho

Walkers get handrails so others can hang off it. Would the walkers need any other changes?

lobby please

>Oh man Swiggers should optimize their game
>Helldivers 2 and all future content now must be able to run on an Xbox series s
Who the fuck made a wish on the monkey paw.

>>529830160
Option to reload would be a godsend, and a Stratagem launcher would be nice as well.

>>529830239
>doesn't optimize the game at all
>neuters enemy spawns and red strats instead
How do you respond without sounding mad?

>>529830160
Give them a mounted stalwart on top of it so your reactive armour can have some fun aswell and i'm happy.

>>529829574
fuck yo ass bitch

>>529830239
>optimize your game
>yöu göt it friend!
>50% reduction to enemy spawn

>>529830571
They need to bring back the strat dupe, 15 napalm barrages will filter them out of my lobbies.

>>529830665
>he doesn't know Series S is a glorified Xbox one

steam://joinlobby/553850/109775240980956274/76561199108851031
d10 whatevs

>>529830734
>xbox one X is more powerful than series Shit

its just sad, even has more ram.

>>529830734
Every modern console is a glorified version of its last iteration.
>console wars
lol, lmao. Stay pleb.

>>529821836
Imagine the AI nerf needed to cater to Series S.

>>529830942
>he doesn't know the Series S kneecapped multiple other game releases
BG3 barely crawled onto Xbox at all because it gave Larian so much trouble lmao

>>529830779
3/4

So current D10 will have to have the enemy presence of D5-6, if it's actually going to have to run on series S.

D11 never confirmed.

>>529827274
are you retarded?

>>529828419
wait the gatling isn't ap4?

>>529827292
Kill them and don't reinforce, make them pound A in seethe.

So people are going to tell the xbox newfags to melee the hellbomb aren't they

>>529830779
full

I'd love it on Switch 2, Freedom conquers all! We need those reinforcements, haha get it.

Left to right, PC,Xbox, PS

>>529829779
>tfw consolefags talk shit, but their machines are weaker than this.

>>529832365
Look at the way "her" feet are pointing, that's an xbox troon.

>>529832365
Me on the left

>>529832501
My machine is considerably weaker than that. Was considering the game until I saw the minimum.

Switch 2 port when?

How did this NOOB on the steam wallpaper miss this shot so bad??? I am going to kick him from my lobby...

>>529833068
The switch 2 is weaker than the xbox series s. Please, don't.

where lobby

>>529833338
Just do it. Just fuck my shit up bro.

>>529828419
I love my patriot exosuit even if it’s definitely not as good as the Emacipator

Where my armoured devision at

>>529830239
What I'm more pissed about is MS's stupid naming convention.

Gimme the TL;DR, did they add something yet or what. What was the announcement.

>>529833068
Casio H1002 port when?

*AHEM*
I SAID
WHERE LOBBY

>>529833662
Xbox version announced.
Great news for them but meh for everyone else.

>>529833451
Patriot is better vs bots than the emancipator in most cases.
It can quickly kill 2 dogs or multiple tanks. Which are the most dangerous enemies to your mech.
And it can surpress the bots like crazy with its minigun.

>>529821628
Of course. They'll wrap up the current stuff with a whole new arc starting just in time for the sexbox release!

>>529832795
I run the game fine on an i5 and a GTX 960.

>>529833662
End of service August 26th.

Helldivers would work great on mobile.

>>529833338
If warframe can be played on mobile and all the consoles then helldivers 2 can do the same. It's just a matter of time.

>>529834618
Finally free...

I think the game getting nuked by series s limitations will be the final push I need to drop this swedish turd once and for all

>>529834549
>2 months of no content just to be mindful of xbox players feelings
Feels bad man

>>529835041
The 6+ months of no content wasn't enough?

>>529826765
too many weapons, the swiggers would never

>>529835041
No worries. Microsoft is sending their elite to Arrowhead as we speak. These 9 000 h-1b Indians will optimize the game to run on a Nokia 3310!

>>529832131
It's called the Switch 2 because you Switch 2 an xbox series s

>finnaly rach 150
>fineshed all achievements
>have all warbonds
now what

>>529836580
you've hit level 25 on every weapon right?

>>529836580
why the fuck does your game look like this

>>529836580
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tg2PD-dwsIw

>>529837030
im poor gamer gotta keep the game above 10fps

>>529821836
Cute cows.

why are bugs so fucking boring

oh boy i sure do love random ass strafing runs that kill me and only me
fuck this im going to go kill bots

>>529833872
playing with noobs is a lot more fun than level 150 niggers who are super serious for no reason

>>529827464
It will be just another larp warbond and it will cost 20$ minimum. It will start the Fortnitefication of helldivers 2.

>>529821836
>Docile terminid slampigs
Take me off the front before I do something sinister

How the absolute fuck do people play without peak physique. Every gun just shits the bed with ergonomics the moment you tweak any variable, and just turns into the jar.
The more I use gun customization, the more I realize how razor thing the numbers feel. I mean it's impressive honestly how big a difference the attachments feel. But god damn how do people play with sub 40 ergo.

>>529832501
>tfw still getting 60 fps on medium settings on my 9 year old rig
only upgrade i ever made was from a 1060 3gb to the 1660 super

>>529837258
it kinda looks dope
like you're under wagie florescent lighting kek

>>529837743
Imagine the reduced enemy count patch coming in august.

I crashed. Fuck this albinoid nigger garbage.

>>529838961
> god damn how do people play with sub 40 ergo.
They don't. But if you want to try out a meme weapon just go to a bot mission. Bots are slow and they can't aim so you have enough time to line up your shots.

Reminder to enjoy your final days as a yoghurt diver

>>529840404
Ergo is more important on bots than other factions.
Head poppers rely on high ergo

>>529841028
I never preordered and bought the preorder bonus on ebay for 5 eurodollars. Wondering how much they will charge for it now.

>>529840376
kek, you shouldve joined back cause some random fucked us on the last mission

>>529841314
500 super sheckles for the armor, not including the helmet

>>529841293
Popping heads is more fun with high ergo but you can get away with low ergo if you abuse cover.

>>529841451
I was not strong enough to endure. After getting lasered in the head by my dog, dying to a fleshmob because the first hit it did broke my leg and couldn't sprint, mobs hiding underground, dying to a purple barrel I could have never seen exploding, and crashing twice...

HellDriver uses the power of his mind to tilt the FRV so it can fit between the legs of a Harvester, 2185AD, colorized.

>>529840285
n-no please dont rape SEAFchan brutebro...

>>529840285
ODST chestplate codpiece confirmed

>>529841028
I will no longer wear it once the blue armor is enshittened by the unwashed masses

>>529841514
Maybe maybe.
I don't get how they balance these attachments.
Like it feels like you either take a one click high ergo head popper, or you don't bother.

>Take high ergo
>Click head, doesn't kill
>Recoil bounces the next shot up to the moon

>Take recoil management
>Gun is so slow to handle that you're basically holding a jar
>Still need to click twice to hit anything, when you could have just taken the dcs to one tap

How do people justify anything besides one clickers. Like verdict does this better than most guns

What if Killzone guy and master chief both remove their helmets and kiss?

>>529842274
>I only wore blue armor because no one else had it, not because I liked it

Wow lol how pathetic.

Sensing that the HellDrivers mind to be of existential threat to the Illuminate body, the dastardly squids decided there was only one course of action....

steam://joinlobby/553850/109775240987651231/76561198359672487

bots and remember the ferret fucker hates god.

>>529842549
Pirate Software is based, why do troons wants to "preserve" games that they don't even play? This is consoooooomer behavior. Some games were made to be purely online and to be maintained by the developers. Do you think Helldivers 2 is going to last forever?

>>529843075
>Do you think Helldivers 2 is going to last forever?
No because the Stop Killing Games initiative wouldn't be retroactive. It'd be beneficial for Helldivers 3.

>>529842525
I wore it for the reactions from other players. It was always cool seeing how surprised and awed people were seeing it for the first time. Without that? It's just another variant of the default set and everyone will be bored with it after a week.

>>529843075
you will own nothing and you will be happy

>>529843075
Shut the fuck up Thor

>>529843075
>It's consumerism to want a way for online products to be preserved
Here's your (you)
Buy some lip filler, a boob job, a bbl, and another dilator

>>529843208
That's pretty based.
I dunno, I think with the yogurt suit getting added we'll get more shota porn

>>529843075
i don't need games to stop dying i just want "lIvE sErVIce" """games""" to suffer

>>529843075
shill fag

>>529843427
This.
I wanna see the first outcry when some company ends their games service within a month and people just shit their pants.

Why do people willingly support anti-consumer shit. Actual corporate cocksucking for the sake of contrarianism.

>>529843208
>Without that? It's just another variant of the default set and everyone will be bored with it after a week.
that's kind of sad to think about

>>529843664
its brainwashing, people cling to submission to oppressive shit because true freedom costs too much.

they are nigger cattle

Did swiggers fuck with the Spear again? Has it always not locked onto mortars, AA turrets, and large factories?

>>529843664
Unironically bitter faggots who just want to see the world burn until they're the ones screwed over.

High Res version: https://files.catbox.moe/9ge276.mp4

>knight armor is servo assisted
Oh okay nevermind, you can keep your preorder junk

>>529843664
american soft power and its consequences

>he wears pre order armor post handout
Yeah that's a TK and a kick.

>>529843832
>true freedom costs too much
How 2 buy freedom?

>>529844256
Post video footage of you kicking someone for wearing the preorder album.

>>529843958
Soft Power is tankie cope. Making cheap plastic crap and inferior military hardware for the rest of the world does not make you a superpower.

>>529827434
Lowsodium niggers actually reported bug reports as "toxic content" and the mods agree with them. They have also supported misinfo like the one true flag having "democracy protect" effects. Post called the sub out to stop this misinfo and the fucking mods called it "borderline salty" This is how delusional they are compared to the main sub

>>529844426
They haven't been handed out yet you retard. Once they are, it's kick on sight.

>>529842549
2/4

>>529844479
>Soft Power is tankie cope.

>>529844537
Oh, I only open the game once or twice a week to AFK in my destroyer so I assume they just randomly threw it out to the masses again.

my nephew is going to go crazy when I tell him he can join with on his series S, lets go! o7

I am going to be the yogurt shota.

>>529845185
Yeh I'm gonna be the heavy armor milf that orders new replacement shotas

>>529845185
>>529845391
based

Servo assisted should improve ergonomics

>>529844790
I hope your ugly retarded nephew chokes on a grape

>>529845185
Stolen valour. You don't deserve the yogurt drip.

Id be unironically furious if I paid early goy bucks for armor and people got it instead.
But luckily I'm not retarded.

>>529846454
I need /ss/ of them right now

>>529820817
I'd sooner trust the government to tell me the truth.

>>529846454
I got it. But my estimation of Arrowhead was so low that I saw this coming for a long time. I'm not angry, I'm just disappointed in them.

>>529846549
Seconding

>>529846549
Yeah but face sitting and thigh crushing

>>529845391
Be sure you use the canon milk truck set.

New attachment

Penalty to recoil and ergo, specially when moving
Tip top values when prone.

>>529842549
s-s-still open guys

>>529842549
I want to do BUGS though

>>529846607
make sure to flex it while you still can pre order bro

>>529846942
forgot my pic

>>529846942
What you've described would make sense for a bipod attachment.

>>529827673
If it's not the Lock-On Multi-Missile or the Gauss Cannon hog, then I would be disappointed.

>>529847168
nta but i wish the bipods on the masheen guns actually fucking worked

>>529827673
I'd only seethe if it handled like the FRV rather than like a warthog.

>>529843936
jesus that HMG sound replacer mod is fucking awful what the fuck man

>>529845885
Ballistic Padding seems to be the next thing to get reworked

>>529845391
>tfw tall 30yo fat hairy man
>didn't get groomed as a kid by a milf
I'll never get to live my /ss/ fantasies.

Light walker with jump jets, what weapons do we put on it? Flamethrower or maybe some arc tech?

>>529843075
Maybe Helldivers 3 and 4 down the line with new content and improvements, inshallah

What's the sweet spot for collecting samples from bot planets? I'm doing the last few ship upgrades
I feel like ~D7 is the right balance between
> Getting a few extra rare samples and everyone makes it out
and going D10 and
> Everyone gets killed at extract and no samples at all
Since you only need a few of the extra rare samples anyway.

>>529850274
D10 technically spawns more Supers, but you aren't wrong.

>>529850274
Just play the fucking game and ask the morons you play with to grab the samples. You will eventually get maxed out anyway. But D10 is pretty poor overall when it comes to POIs with the mega base and the skull/egg is worthless.
The rare samples are the biggest pain in the ass. The super rares ones are easy to find and you don't need that many.

>>529850274
I don't even pick up samples anymore if everyone is at least level 50. It's me, I'm the problem.

>>529849159
Shoulder mounted WASP, Arc Thrower left arm, MG turret right arm.

>>529850274
10 has more people who know what they're doing usually
try 6-8 you might find true success there though

>>529850274
this

>>529847531
Same.
Hmg with a functioning bipod would actually be extremely viable and would fix the insane recoil when prone

>>529850274
Play with anons and tell them you need samples. I WILL help you.

>>529850274
If you don't have all the upgrades, you probably shouldn't be playing at D9 or D10. Just play at D8 and keep an eye out for the Cock Rock.

>>529848197
It's a bit loud on the HMG emplacement, yeah. It's technically just a mod for the HMG support weapon, I dunno what it is about the emplacement sound in particular that gets amplified.
Kinda makes me want to get a subwoofer though.

>>529846942
>Artificial penalty to X
This sort of design is forced and stupid. A bipod doesn't magically make a gun worse to use.

kill yourself

>>529851421
uh oh melty

>>529850274
D1 to 9 is filled with idiots, D10 is filled with people who win. So I can't understand any logic but doing D10. Once you gather a few sample people usually realise you want them and start doing it to.

>players die when their head breaks
>50/50 limb armor prevents this

Well fuck.
It's actually kinda interesting when you look at the damage in this game and the break points. Most shit just one taps your arm and breaks it. And while you couuuuuld wear armor to stop that, taking vitality booster even though 10% reduction, is all you need to prevent that break point. (In reality a 1% damage reduction would be enough).

Like I'm honestly looking this shit over and there's very few cases where heavy armor actually matters. Vitality booster just does the same thing. There are some things like heavy armor will protect you from getting two tapped in the head by warriors though. Almost wanna tism out and make a chart of all this.

Come bully ILLUMINATES ON CITY MAP with me, bros.
steam://joinlobby/553850/109775240991997978/76561198055931055

>the Virgin sending in helldivers vs the Chad Hell jumpers are in the tube ODST
>https://youtu.be/gMjRfIoTbBU?si=xAXNpSb-REVJSvLH

>>529850274
The problem is twofold
>1: Some higher level players have just stopped giving a fuck about samples and make zero effort to collect them.
>2: Samples are largely inside of enemy outposts. The unwarranted nerfs to fabricators have allowed players to just LOL LMAO all of the fabs within a base from hundreds of meters away without even needing to maneuver to get LOS on vents. As a result, many players are just vaporizing fabs from long range instead of ever stepping foot inside of an outpost. Since they don't step foot inside the outpost, they don't get within 100m of the samples.
The fix is giving players a proper sample sink for endgame, and rolling back some of the excessive nerfs that the bots have been given over the past year.

At this point I'm only sticking around to see how badly spawns get fucked once it's released on series s

>>529852320
You faggots really dislike squids that much, huh

>>529851126
>>Artificial penalty to X
>This sort of design is forced and stupid.
that's literally how most attachments already in the game work. you get less vertical recoil but more horizontal recoil, or a bigger scope but worse ergonomics. a bidpod adds noticeable weight to the front of the weapon which makes handling it more difficult

>>529853090
Yes my nigger.

>>529852320
2/4 come on fags

>>529853515
You have chosen a faction... poorly.

angled foregrips making recoil worse is fucking retarded

>>529853489
>>529853706
I'm sick of playing bots

>Awkwardly floating and stuck between a rock
>Helldivers2.exe crashed

>>529852320
>>529853515
OK WE PLAY WHATEVER YOU WANT FAGGOTS. 2/4

>>529852320
>>529854328
3/4

steam://joinlobby/553850/109775240987651231/76561198359672487

bots

>>529854387
>>529854625
Join my lobby you doofus

>>529852320
FVLL

>>529854625
never mind, sorry dude i thought it would take you with me

>>529854928
nah, don't worry about it well GGs

>>529851957
Movement is king but once you get used to Heavy Armor, you'll know the break points on when to stim or not especially when you're wearing specific passives.

I barely stim myself unless I'm on certain health tresholds (50-60%) when I'm on heavy, usually this makes medic divers anxious and starts spamming stim darts at my direction

I usually have the lowest death or zero death on most missions too

>>529852463
>didn't even include OD- OD- OD- ODST DROPPING IN

lobby domo

Dead game. Dead general

>>529851957
heavy armor is the true skill check
it forces you to learn good habits with positioning, which once you're good at you become significantly harder to kill

light armor reinforces bad habits because it lets you run away at a moments notice, always thinking you can run into danger and quickly get out
which you certainly can sometimes but just as often I see lightdivers get cheeky and die to something otherwise avoidable if they had had better positioning
also chip damage fucks you in light armor, you will inevitably get hit at some point and heavy lets you eat more of it

>>529860670
go on a diet ya fat bitch

>>529861280
Small indie dev
Please understand.

>>529861280
>they """"fixed"""" the snake diver bug by forcing you to stay on the ground for 0,5 sec after getting ragdolled
>not only it makes playing fucking miserable, but the bug still happens
Fucking hacks i swear to god

Bug lobbies doko?

>>529862220
Okay any sort of lobbies doko?

>>529862220
>>529862716
Okay I'm going to join a pub NO ONE better make a lobby while I'm gone

>>529854328
emmy my beloved

>>529862716
lobby in an hour or so, people are busy(lol)

i would make a lobby but im hiding offline
>>529862972
just host asshole

The training facility on Mars was destroyed? Damn... I remember shooting first terminids there...

>>529864493
have you explored the map? theres alot of shit there, you can leave the bounds of the map

>>529864669
I never did actually

>>529864493
It's a good thing general brasch got out of there, for the illuminate I mean.

>>529864805
theres a shovel

allso when are you niggers maaking a lobbyu

>>529864990
Bedtime, nyo more lobbyu

So is it confirmed that they will have to nerf spawns/AI for the series s?

>>529865689
Yes, check Discord

>>529865925
nigger

>>529866487
Don't make retarded posts next time

>its a wall of flinching heavy shield devs that are walking through walls and endless spawn of bullshit ragdolling with no cover while your stims are being cancelled by some retarded ass shit
>clear them out just in time for 5 more squads to beeline towards you
i ragequit today for the first time in awhile

>>529866668
refer to >>529866487

>Bot invasion during bug MO

Why do joel fucking hates bots

>>529867051
>thinking it matters

>>529821452 (OP)
Look! New Bug Fest item!

lobby dok

>>529830135
>flying
anon, did you not see how overseers and watchers behave?
there is no flying in this engine, it can't even handle those without glitching

Lobby WHEN

>>529868645
START A LOBBY, GOD.

>>529868719
no u

>>529868794
kys retard

why don't (You) start a lobby?

>>529868719
NO, I WANT SOMEONE ELSE TO DO IT FOR ME, IVE BEEN WAITING FOR 3 HOURS NOW

steam://joinlobby/553850/109775241002387465/76561198033585292
d10 whatever

>>529868840
The man who says "I can start a lobby," and the man who says "I will wait for someone else."
Both are right.

>>529868989
3/4

>>529868989
Full!

>>529868989
full

>>529869576
>he takes vitality booster with heavy armor
>He takes vitality booster in general

Vitality booster has fallen off a bunch after they halved it's effect.
Honestly I'm surprised there wasn't any uproar about the nerf. It's substantially worse now. The only thing it really helps with is DOTs.

>>529870649
Id pay for this armor. Light democracy protects sounds fun, also big titty bunny girl.

>>529870649
So real

>>529870893
>Making fun of people wearing the goon armor while they desperately try to convince you they're doing it for the stats
Would be kino desu

>>529870612
Because AH being the niggers they are, only changes stuff in stealth nerfs every patch. The HMG having it's durability damage reduced significantly was only ever found out by dataminers and the wiki autists keeping track of every stat change. Barely even notices the vitality booster nerf because AH doesn't point out stuff anymore. This is why they are still on my shitlist. This is pure spiteful behavior because they got raped by review bombs for fucking up multiple times.

>>529871230
>Wear goon armor cause it's goon armor
>It's also got the best stats

Tencent please.

>>529871301
Balancing the game is not spiteful.

>>529871301
To be fair, the original 20% damage reductions is insanely good and even the current 10% reduction is still a meta pick everytime.
However that shit should just be baked into the healthpool and never should've been a booster in the first place.

>>529871536
ok fredrik

>>529871301
Good, they should do a big stealth nerf for the AT emplacement next

>>529871396
As I said, kino.

CHINA MAN IN THE LOBBY!!!
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>>529871546
I'd rather just have helldivers not be affected by headshots.

>>529871546
No it just shouldn't exist in the first place.
It breaks the game and it effectively was like wearing heavy armor for free.

>>529871301
I honestly couldn't blame them. The community is rabid because AH actively nerfed everything into the ground that stood out.
Id be afraid of saying the N word around this fan base too.
Honestly I couldn't even tell you whose at fault here.

>>529871903
>Honestly I couldn't even tell you whose at fault here.
The devs, its always the devs. Communities as a whole will always be retarded and over-react in a way or another. Its the devs job, alongside FUCKING COMMUNITY MANAGERS, to do their best to balance things and not piss of the hivemind (too much).
Arrowhead, besides all the retarded shit they did with the game, are still incapable of actually using their community managers to communicate about the game and you still have random posts from random retarded devs lost on shitscord.

>PC anons seriously turn cross play off
I've never had an issue and I exclusively play on D10.

It appears I have attracted another discord nerftranny brigade

>>529871903
Things were never "nerfed" to the ground. They yoyo back and forth as the dev tries to find the middle ground where they want the game difficulty should be. People just act like if something isn't the absolutely strongest shit ever, it's the worst shit ever

>>529872237
yeah because you're the console player

>>529871808
huh
>>529871396
whuh

>>529872237
>*CHIRP*
>Don't get it twisted, skibidi rizz no cap on ohio
>*baby crying*
>MOM STOP THEY CAN HEAR YOU
>*CHIRP*

>>529871903
It's the developer's fault for giving the playerbase such strong nerf PTSD in the early months. It was just a non-stop barrage of nerf after nerf to effective strategies and stratagems.
If they weren't fucking retarded with chasing some d9 'only 60% of ops can succeed' mentality and actually gave out SENSIBLE nerfs AND buffs together then the developers would still have nerfing as a tool available to them.
The worst of it had to be when they changed how fire worked right before the freedom's flame warbond which made it worse all to prevent the charger leg meta.

>>529872526
>The worst of it had to be when they changed how fire worked right before the freedom's flame warbond which made it worse all to prevent the charger leg meta.
Oh god i remember that bullshit. Like, how retarded do you have to be, nerfing the principal mechanic of the warbond you're trying to sell just as you release it.

>>529872372
XD

unforseen events occurred
steam://joinlobby/553850/109775241004712093/76561199108851031
d10 whatev

>>529868989
One guy had to dip so reopening.
D10 for real this time
steam://joinlobby/553850/109775241004927214/76561198033585292
Also did that hacker guy just give us 1k SC for free?

>>529873015
3/4
Need one more gamer

>>529872315
>Nerf literally the only strategies people had for things while offering no other proper solutions

>>529872526
My guess was that they reworked flames, saw that they were too strong to have flames kill chargers on a primary. And just nerfed them.
You typically see a lot of balance changes right before a warbond because they find out things in the game when testing the weapons.

Eg: peacemaker buff when warrant was a direct upgrade, slugger buff when they realized deadeye was a direct upgrade.

It's interesting, but it also means they don't really have much internal consistency with numbers. Granted they seem to try to

>>529873014
>>529873015
lobby duo

>>529873014
closed due to other lobby>>529873015

>>529873014
>failed

>>529871808
BLESSED BE THE CHINA MAN, THANK YOU ORIENTAL MAN, I WISH WE NEVER HARMED YOU WITH THE OPIOIDS, BLESSED BE THE CHINA MAN AND HIS NATURE, FOR HE IS GENERIOUS

>>529873142
This is literally this meme
>>529872694

>>529873015
>>529873141
Full

damn trooncord cabal

>>529873342
isn't that the boogieman of every general ever?

>>529873242
I think the problem is the glacial like push to change things compared to pumping out content.

Like they'll know things are broken, but there's very little motivation or reason to fix things.
Like when asked how they felt about X, they'll say it does feel underpowered but we're unsure if we should change it.

In a lot of cases that's fair. It's just not really a need to change things.

>>529872526
People still got more tools overall compared to how that game was from the beginning and the over tools slowly get better However, people just want really broken shit that stood out like railgun one shot BT and want everything to be around that

>>529872694
Plus the nerftrannies coming out to slurp it up.

>>529873484
Orbital precision strike has been left behind ever since they changed the health pool of titans ans stuff. Smoke is more useless than ever. Rockets still fucking useless. EMS absolutely useless.
If reddit doesn't cry about something being broken, nothing happens. These devs need to be fucking hit on the head before they do something. Last two warbond got changed because people bitched. Otherwise, it seems like those retarded apes unironically think they were doing a good job and giving us interesting armors with good perks.
Fucking faggots. And i'm only mad because the game is otherwise amazing, and you can tell that AT LEAST A SOME POINT, competent people made this game. I just wonder where they are now.

>>529873765
Well that shit happens due to power creep in the first place. Those shit were good when heavy don't get taken down by every single things like now

>>529873542
The worst thing is that I'd say that trick was pretty balanced in the current meta, and I'd say it was more balanced back then.

I don't know if they had a different vision with the game. But half the time you were stuck kiting problems you couldn't deal with. There was no natural deaggro to teach people to try again or use different strategies like stealth.

And if you hand players the hardest difficulty, and they end up cheesing it in hyper niche ways. Why nerf it.

Honestly, I'd kill to see how the devs intend the game to be played back then. It did feel at times they had no clue themselves.

Holy shit eagle storm is so fucking aids god dammit. I just died to it 4 times in one mission it's like it's going directly fucking for me and I have no way to know it's coming or from what direction

>>529873765
Ops is a solid work horse honestly.

The problem 9/10 times is the modifiers not the reds. That and the higher the difficulty gets the more DPS focussed things become. Which means you lose sight of utility.

>>529873662
>Flamethrower made most anti armor worthless
Like flamethrower was fucking broken back then, but the problem wasn't that it killed chargers. the problem was it killed fucking everything if a guy knew what he was doing.

He still needed support though for bile titans, granted 500/precision strike were enough for that.

Impalers and bile chargers tho hard countered flamer.

Realistically it's two more weeks for the new warbond to be announced.
What do you want to see anon? What should the theme be?

>>529874531
Trench warfare.
Artillery reds, nuke silo, and barbed wire green.

Then a meme shovel and some more krieger looking armor.

>>529873662
Keep in mind that this hugbox was too much for ArrowHead to handle and instead they need an assistant to carefully filter and curate the feedback from r/LowSodiumDivers.
I am now also reminding all of you when Pilestedt made a gay depressed poetic tweet because they were telling him to cool it with the fucking nerfs.

>>529874658
the nuke silo would come very appreciated fuck, I want a strong cross-map option that's not the cuck chair and lets me wipe faraway jammers when opportune

>>529874658
This and thunderer barrage.

>>529873142
>when testing the weapons.
Good joke

>>529873662
Lmao

The takes they have in that fucking discord are beyond retarded sometimes. Although, Nowhere near reddit bad.

>>529874887
>homing
Never fucking ever, red strats will NEVER track. If they haven't figured it out by now they aren't going to.

>>529874887
thunderer was so goated in hd1. But isn't the 120/380 basically that? I'm pretty sure that's the role they're meant to fill at least. I guess they could do one that's more concentrated/directed but maybe lasts a shorter duration or something. But it could be hard to balance that against other things without just invalidating them. Like why would you take the 120 over the thunderer option I proposed above? Maybe with a massive cooldown diff?

>>529875323
Honestly no idea. 120 and 380 kinda suck and they need homing to be useful for heavy killing. They NEED to hit the target to actually damage it due to the projectile rework. Which is fucking retarded with their fire rate.

I could see a longer cool down though.
A reliable 120 that consistently hit heavies would be amazing on bugs and heavy nests

Honestly though I'd be fine with just a tight cone 380 with no tracking. Id just like more orbital bombardments.

>add a pairy to swords, hatchet, baton that costs stamina. Works on everything up to heavy class shit like chargers and bile titans, parries stun
>add a sweep to spears that costs stamina

does this fix melee?

>>529876359
>pairy

>>529872372
I only had one open mic moment and it was two negroes just having fun with the game; it was entertaining

>>529876359
>Sekiro parry mechanic
Yes, that would be awesome

>>529875685
I wish the 120/380 just could have the like, total coverage of the napalm orbital, which seems to damage every fuckin spot in the radius and then keeps burning. There should be double the amount of projectiles coming down during 120/380 I think and that could do wonders. Keep the same duration but double the fire rate or shoot two at once.

>>529875323
>why would you take the 120

>>529874026
But it wasn't niche. Literally everyone was using the railgun when it was broken and everyone was using flamethrower when it was broken against chargers. I'm okay then removing those outliers but slowly buff things but then they just said fuck it and just buff everything and nerf enemies as well.

>>529872340
All you PC players bitch on here about teammates, so if YOU PC only fags are having issues with PC only playeds while I'm not having any trouble in crossplay then YOU retards are the shitters

lobby doko

>>529876712
napalm and walking are both just better for either area denial or base clearing.

>Team up with random diver
>Open mic with heavy breathing
>Chirp
>Chirp

120mm is great. I regularly spawnkill dropships and heavies with it. Reliably removes detectors. Fun on swarmed jammers that are about to switch off. 380 is great if you put it in a big enough target area such as a bunker or megabase. They don't need buffs. You can just synergize multiple barrages either by yourself or through mates for genuine saturation bombing. Stacking 120mm with napalm is my favorite.

>>529872372
this is pretty true. I have over 1k hours, console players absolutely are way worse about open mic. Mostly because iirc ps5 did it automatically and people often have no idea their mic is even on so you get all sorts of shit from random talk to TV feed back etc. But it's very easy to mute and in my experience going "hey we can hear every sound in your room dude" over mic tends to make them go "oh shit lemme fix that" and they do. Then you're helping all the future people who play with them too. Push to talk should be the expected standard in all online chats and people that prefer all-talk are the people who go "Why would you be worried about the government looking at your data? Do you have something to hide" and should probably be culled.

>>529877164
I would concede that it's really good at the specific "stop invasion" mission where you can drop it where they land and get like two waves sometimes.

But walking barrage is just better for clearing bases in my experience. Combining them it obviously good but that can be said with just about every attack strat.

>Eagle teamkill storm
>in a bug MO
Which plebbitors are even donating samples to turn this fucking thing on?

>>529877714
Eagle storm should just give everyone a free Strafing that doesn't count against your personal Eagle.

>>529877714
>he thinks redditors are the majority
The vast majority of the playerbase are gamer dads and normalfags that don't even use social media outside of attention whoring.

>>529877494
>But walking barrage is just better for clearing bases in my experience.
It also does jack shit to hold back reinforcement drops, or deny advances from huge patrols.

>>529878014
I would say that only napalm is actually better than other options for area denial. For a raise flag mission you can angle a walking to do some good work.

why dont console players ever make lobbies, is sharing friend code frowned upon here?

>>529874531
stealth&sniper warbond with talon primary and suppressor attachments for R63
AT bond with additional AT options for back and secondary slots
zap man bond with a blitzer secondary, orbital lightning strike, and a bzzzzt version of the pyro grenade

YA DONT LIKE EAGLE STORM?! YOU'LL GET FIFTY FLAVORS OF EAGLE STORM!
GET READY FOR ORBITAL 380 STORM, BABIES!

>>529878439
Friend codes are going to become the standard once the game actually launches on XBox.

>>529874173
The problem with OPS is that when they upscaled the raw HP that heavies held, they ignored its AOE damage and only touched its direct hit damage. So it's a pale shadow compared to 500kg when in the olden days they were peers.

>>529877035
120 has the shorter cooldown, so you can be more liberal with tossing it out. It still feels really mid though. But at least it's not sandbagging like 380meme barrage.

>>529877985
fucking this. Piece of shit aims basically on top of you and you've got fuck all way of knowing it's incoming. When it works it fucking works but holy shit does it fuck me over way more often and worse than it does help me.

>>529826765
No fuck cringeovers. Why not just add the fortnight banana suit while you're at it. Man consumer niggers have zero appreciation for original content.

>bug front
>mega nest
>some divers are trying to high speed low drag their way to the bile titan hole before too many titans can spawn
>someone throws a napalm barrage at the nest
>teamkills everyone
>Sorry guys, but I got so many kill!!!!! Napalm barrage is the best!!!!11!
>have to wait for it to end
>there are now a bajillion bile titans in the nest
>*bug breach detected*
>all of the small bugs respawned too
hate that barrage like you wouldn't fucking believe.

>>529878598
>additional AT options for back
Huh, what would that look like?
>guided rocket bacpack
>AT1 rockets
>backpack that functions as an ammo backpack for 40mm grenades
>underslung grenade launcher for rifles can draw from its ammo pool like a support weapon would
>light thermite rounds
A man can dream

>>529874658
>Muh heckin' trench warfare and le shovel!
Retards like you need to be sent to the gas chambers. We still don't have a single plasma support weapon and you're begging for more meme content. KYS, redditor.

lobby doko

>>529874531
>Realistically it's two more weeks for the new warbond to be announced.
No swiggers are on a month vacation starting 1 july to 31. No more warbonds until aug earliest that's why they released the cop warbond early.
>t swigger

>>529879559
reverse engineered illuminate mortar

>>529873015
GGs

>>529879661
in 20 min

>>529879559
Its over. If people will eat up a worthless flag as a page-3 warbond unlock, there's limit to the slop. The shitters won.

>>529873015
ggz

>>529880413
nice cheat mod.

>>529880413
>>529873015
ggs

>>529874146
were you the host?

steam://joinlobby/553850/109775241009309150/76561199108851031
d10 whatevs

>>529874464
The flamethrower is a glorified melee weapon with a significant chance of lighting yourself on fire as implemented by AH. It actually being capable of killing stuff that was close to you, at great risk to yourself because it provides no CC, was and is fine, and AH's glorious vision has resulted in literally no one taking the flamethrower unless they're meme'ing around, normally with the hoverpack. I would not be surprised if all the flame weapons had a sub 1% pick rate when combined together since I literally never see them because they fucking suck.

>>529881737
coming

>>529881737
failed...
P1 no... how could you leave me behind

>>529882305
s2 im sorry i was afk and I was going to post

>>529881814
If you have some idea what you are doing, it can kill everything. You can use shield or jetpack to mitiage being set on fire

>>529882663
I thought you were gone after the finished lobby or something so I left

steam://joinlobby/553850/109775241011203819/
helldivers 2

>>529882946
I can technically kill everything with the spear, that doesn't make either of them a good weapon, especially one that's competing for a stratagem slot and your support weapon.

we are so cooked.

>>529882967
fovr

>>529883107
But the flamethrower was good for killing everything and very efficient with ammo refill since each field ammo pick up is like 3-4sg. It had no problem with crowd control and 2 flamethrower players can basically shut down a breach on highest diff but just holding left click. And you just need to call down 500 kg once in a while for a titan

>>529879120
120 still does enough damage to down dropships and the higher fire rate of it combined with the smaller AoE make it more likely. Still doesn't feel good to use like ONB, but it's fine if you want something that can kill fabs and deny drops since Walking doesn't do the latter all that well.

>>529883337
Once again, in a game where people are liberally spamming high explosives, turret gunfire, and a wide variety of other forms of death plus the fact that if things aren't getting close enough, you don't get to have fun, being that close to the enemy has to have a very high reward, ie killing things quickly, to be worth the risk. Even when the flamethrower was at it's strongest, there was maybe 1 per most lobby at most because it would and did lead to you getting killed a lot, and now it doesn't even have the niche of being a volatile heh support weapon but instead is left to rot despite all the work spent on it.

>>529881814
Flamethrower isn't that difficult to use

>>529883785
NTA but it sounds like you want more buffs because the flamethrower isn't an overturned instapick.

>>529883896
Ah, yes. There's no middle ground between useless and gamebreaking. I forgot this is brown hours.

The flamethrower's main problem is its unrealistically short range. Make it at least 20 meters, maybe even 30, and it'll be both more realistic and actually good. That Bile/Nursing Spewers can outrange it is ridiculous.

>>529883896
NTA, but it sounds like you don't really want to engage with the argument in good faith.

>>529884004
For a purely pressurized gas flamethrower, it has exactly as much range as it should. If you want a flamethrower with range, you'll have to convince Arrowhead to add liquid jet flamethrowers with double tanks and a dedicated ammo backpack.

>>529881737
steam://joinlobby/553850/109775241012298149/76561199108851031
rehosting due to retardation
d10 bot, racist pls come back

>>529884381
full

>>529884251
>devs are autistically obsessed with this game being some kind of milsim (lol)
>except when it might be of interest to the player, then its right back to vidya logic
Proper napalm throwers are too kino for swiggers.

>>529884381
t3 your gonna have to make your own lobby, forgive me

>>529883785
Lmao no, there were 2 or more flamethrower every bug lobby if they were try hard. Flamethrower. Things are just easier as every options are stronger now so flamethrower got powercreeped so you considered it "bad"

So will the release on xbawx force the swedes to actually optimize their game or is that just wishful thinking?

>>529885758
Perhaps. Having 2 giant corpos filled with sociopathic suits (Sony/Microsoft) breathing down your neck is a good enough motivator

>>529885758
>multi-console
>optimizing
Heh, good one.

>>529883993
>>529884038
Just say you want more buffs. No need to be shy. Every weapon and stratagem must be made incredibly strong. Also, we could use some more enemy nerfs too, for good measure.

>>529884381
In bed, comfy, eepy. I'm actually so tired rn.

>>529886040
>Every weapon and stratagem must be made incredibly strong
Yes. Giving every weapon a use case and reason to be picked instead of just ignored due to being outclassed is good game design.
>Also, we could use some more enemy nerfs too, for good measure.
No. I do not want enemies nerfed. You always pull this strawman out of your ass every time someone tries to talk about the game, and its getting increasingly obnoxious.

>>529886390
im sorry anon, next time fosure we play

Man I hope the next warbond has a DMR in it.

>>529886448
I don't know what it is about retards and strawmanning about "You just want nerfs" and saying dumb shit like that. Predditor bugs are probably the hardest faction and I've seen literally zero complaints about them or calls for nerfs. Meanwhile people die to faggoty shit on squids like Leviathans and when they ask for it be changed suddenly it's "muh nerfs all you want are nerfs"

It's like people can't even consider the fact that it's just not fucking enjoyable rather than it being difficult.

>>529886448
>No, I don't want to nerf the enemies
>I just want keep buffing the player, our weapons, and stratagems in perpetuity.

>>529887182
>I just want keep buffing the player, our weapons, and stratagems in perpetuity.
Oh boy, another strawman.

>>529887182
>Moving the goalposts

>>529887058
Predator bug falls part as soon as you take a stagger primary

Kind of weird how neither the bots nor the squids have any supersonic/fast-moving air superiority craft. For the bots, I can kind of get it because they're all big and bulky and (somewhat) crude in terms of tech. But shouldn't the squids have near-orbit craft for shooting down Eagles and harassing Pelicans? Everything they have seems slow and hovery, and I count the Stingray in that too. Stingray strafing runs are really quite slow.

>>529887250
Not a straw man. Redditors and /hdg/ are always calling for more buffs but never any new challenges, objectives, or enemy buffs.

>>529887058
>D10 pred is the hardest.
That's not saying much and yes, many people have cried about D10 pred bugs. Many of whinners are actually in this very general too.

>>529887480
I'd personally love a d10+ mode which has the same spawn rates, but adds things like frontal armor to hulks and tanks that either requires nicking the eye or flanking it, as well as any other shit that adds challenge in ways that aren't just doubling health or some lazy shit. I also with there was a reason to bring the fucking Spear or Railcannon strike, and these aren't mutually exclusive like you love trying to imply.
However, you'd rather just group everyone that doesn't agree with your inane ramblings and shitflinging into a big pile of sworn enemies for you to scream at. You're arguing with someone who literally isn't here, and trying to attack arguments that aren't being made. That is called strawmanning, you are attacking a strawman.

>>529887984
We are never gonna get a real hard mode because redditors and /hdg/ will seethe that an optional, high difficulty mode requires some effort to beat. AH has rewarded and fostered an uniquely terrible form of entitlement from the community that will continue to have detrimental effects on the game's future. And yes I do group all bufftroons together as the same thing because their buff begging is all equally damaging to the game.

>>529884004
Flamethrowers just needs stagger amd slight push force, damage and range wise I think it's fine.

The problem is that current flamethrower strat is to just puff enemies enough to light them on fire then wait for them to die since surface fire and direct fire damage is nerfed while DoT fire is giga buffed.

Slight stagger and push force would help Flame divers to have slightly more survivability.

>AAAAHHHH MUH FRAMES WHY CAN'T IT RUN 200FPS ON A SMART FRIDGE LIKE MUH DOOM ETERNAL
stop being poor
alternatively stop being cheap

>>529888404
>And yes I do group all bufftroons together as the same thing because their buff begging is all equally damaging to the game.
Then you admit that arguing with you is pointless because you'd rather swat at shadows and strawman bad faith arguments than actually try and have a conversation with the people in front of you. You clearly fancy yourself as some sort of heroic defender of game balance, and that absolutely everyone is out to get you, but you're just as stupid as your "sworn enemies" and with a massive ego to boot.

>>529888475
>The problem is that current flamethrower strat is to just puff enemies enough to light them on fire then wait for them to die

Is this why it feels so dogshit to use if you try to frontline with it? Aside from the lack of stagger/push force I mean. It feels like even when I'm spraying something like a warrior it takes a million years for it to die to direct damage

>>529888978
>Change

Burning damage now scales with enemy size and will do more damage over time to larger enemies
Fire direct damage also scales with enemy size. The base damage of direct fire hits has been lowered as compensation. This means that large enemies will take roughly the same amount of damage as before, while smaller enemies will take slightly less.
Time to Ignite

Larger enemies now take longer to ignite.
Robotic enemies are harder to set on fire than organic ones.
Incendiary Ammunition and Lasers are now less effective at igniting enemies, but once they do, the resulting burn damage is more impactful thanks to the new scaling system.
Undocumented Change

Reduced particle damage from 4 to 2
Burn damage increased from 50 to 100.

Yeah, you're not supposed to M1 the flamethrowers. You just need to flame the ground and the target a little bit then kite them. Though for heavies, you want to keep M1ing them since it takes longer to light them on fire but they'll take massive damage.

This is why Crisper is S tier secondary on squids and bugs after the change.

>>529888475
If they give the Torcher even a light stagger, I'll go running back to it like a lost puppy, but something tells me AH would only give that to the support weapon.

>>529884004
We need a liquid flamethrower that shoots further but is less effective in your face. (for bots)
Make the current flamethrower give stagger and nullify bile strider spew/acid spitter projectiles.

>>529888475
>>529888978
>>529889201
I get what they're trying to do by having fire to do most of its damage based on the surface area of what's being lit on fire, but I can see why that would feel bad from a gameplay standpoint considering how flamethrowers in video games tend to be chaff clearing damage hoses with a little bit of fire DoT.
That being said, I don't actually know enough about real flamethrowers to know what the difference in temperature between the original stream and the lingering flames would be, or how that would translate to actual damage numbers.

>>529879556
I was thinking simpler. I'd take an AT guard dog (shoots either Commando projectiles or thermite darts) and an old school Panzerfaust for a secondary. Think an ultimatum sidegrade with EAT-like characteristics.

PLEASE ARROWHEAD
JUST LET ME JUMPPACK ONTO A BILE TITANS BACK AND PLANT THE FLAG INTO IT'S UNDEMOCRATIC CARAPACE.
also let me plant it into mechs too thx

>>529888975
>You clearly fancy yourself as some sort of heroic defender of game balance.
No, I'm venting my frustration out at the stupid niggers who killed a lot of the fun this game had to offer. This game is literally not allowed to have an OPTIONAL high difficulty mode because redditors and /hdg/ will throw a tantrum. It's so fucking absurd when you think about it. No extra rewards and completely optional yet such a mode would still cause immense butthurt because of the extremely fragile ego that this community has. The players will continue to get stronger, enemies will continue to get weaker, and the game will continue to get more boring. And I'm sure AH has another round of player buffs geared up for when the Xbox players join in too.

>>529876407
lol sorry

>>529876508
Honestly any game parry mechanic, melee just needs a reason to exist. Punishers-esque shotguns are better melee weapons right now due to the stagger. Honestly you could give them better stagger, but with their short range they aren't reliable enough for that.

Remember to thank us XGODS for the incredible optimizations coming to your game on August 26th.
DLSS, FSR, PSSR implementation to follow.

>>529889662
overpowered halo warbond doom saar do the needful and only use halo 1 god pistol from now on 250 fully durable ap3 damage

>>529878805
dead ass thought the bombardment shit was funny, never played there, but it was funny. Be funnier if the bombardment shit like sky rocketed liberation rate, and the mission was just way harder for it.

>>529889662
>This game is literally not allowed to have an OPTIONAL high difficulty mode
You are literally inventing things in your head to be mad at
If AH released a new difficulty and explicitly marketed it as the super hard optional difficulty where soloing isn't an option and everybody needs to bring their A game, the majority of the players would accept it.
Sure there would be some moaning, but there always is.

>>529888404
This is weird because you never get this sort of behaviour in other coop shit. Darktide, Payday, Killing Floor, etc. all have difficulty levels that are pretty fucking hard. Contrarians will say it's all solved with meta builds and that is fair, but it's not Helldivers would be any different.

I don't have a bind for my emotes. I use the standard emote key as my FPV toggle switch.

>>529887331
Or just kill them
or take gas
or take stuns
or take a green to draw aggro

However, they actually put a lot of pressure on you and they force players to build into stagger. It's respectable, and makes not just killing shit, the optimal strategy. Cause you honestly can't do it fast enough typically.

>>529889951
>Killing Floor
1 yes, 2 no

>>529889662
>No, I'm venting my frustration out at the stupid niggers who killed a lot of the fun this game had to offer.
No you aren't.
You're venting out your frustration ABOUT them at EVERYONE indiscriminately, even if they happen to agree with some of what you're saying, by shoving words into their mouth and pretending that these completely unrelated people are these previously aforementioned enemies of yours, even though they weren't arguing the points you tried to accuse them of.
These stupid niggers that you hate either aren't here, or are just ignoring you. That's why you felt the need to start trying to argue about things that hadn't been mentioned or implied instead of actually trying to have a conversation about game balance.
Either argue against what people itt are ACTUALLY arguing about, or go find retards at reddit that actually are whining about the shit that you want to argue about at this very second.

>>529870649
i'd buy it instantly

i'm still malding over the fact they didn't give us 250 medals for the SE defense
i coulda used those when i had like 4 warbonds worth of crap to catch up on

>>529889976
whats your middle mouse do?

>>529889662
>No, I'm venting my frustration out at the stupid niggers who killed a lot of the fun this game had to offer.

What fun did the game actually offer before hand?
The one buff that I can see that actually ruined fun was rockets one tapping heavies of all flavors because that ruined support weapon kill niches.

But honestly what do we even gain out of support kill niches?
Just tighter metas honestly.

I think the only faction that has done difficulty in any fashion right has been squids, because they actually break the meta up in a dozen different ways and a lot of counters require tight teamwork.
Mainly not fucking setting off the watcher

>>529889951
I noticed that the HD2 crowd doesn't behave as a real shooter community. They perceive this game more as an instanced sci-fi MMO with optional guns. I don't understand why with how weak the galactic war is but sloppers gonna slop I guess.

>>529889492
I'd like an alt flamethrower, but I'm pretty sure spewer or at least bile titan spray would realistically mog the flamethrower enough to send your burning fuel right back into your face.

>>529889902
>Sure there would be some moaning, but there always is
There would be a fuck ton of moaning. And being the spineless devs that AH are, they would neuter the new mode in order to appease the shitters and avoid another controversy. AH is incredibly scared of whinny reddit posts that garner large up vote counts.

>>529889951
This community is exceptionally whiny anytime the game inconveniences them, no matter how slight.

>>529890202
Yeah the bile titans mouth is going to huck at a higher flow rate than a tiny flamethrower but it'd be cool and it's not as if bile titans aren't easy as piss to avoid anyways

>>529890074
Nothing. Just been too lazy to bind emotes to it. But it's a bad keybind for FPV imo since it's inconvenient to push while you're charging a weapon or already aiming.

>>529884004
Honestly I think the flamethrower is fine as it is. The downsides to the gun have finally been outweighed by the insane versatility and utility it offers.

Most builds revolve around enabling flamethrower, and having the flamethrower do litterally everything as a reward is great. If it was long range or say stunned/stagggered shit. It'd be too easy to use and would negate the downsides of the weapon, thus requiring a massive nerf.

/hdg/, it's time for your daily
>the game was better when you got constantly one tapped from 200m away and 90% of the primaries were useless
spergout

>>529890271
>This community is exceptionally whiny anytime the game inconveniences them, no matter how slight.
I honestly think the only thing this general collectively shits on is fleshpounds, and leviathans before the nerf.

>>529873542
>muh one shot railgun hurr hurr
Kys retard.

>>529840285
the hinges on my door went below freezing and shattered when i clicked this

>>529890417
Yes the game was more fun when the enemies we're actually trying to kill you
>90% of le weapons were useless!
You never made any attempt to use non meta gear. All you did was parrot the opinions of sloptubers and redditors.

>>529890052
Hey here is one of the stupid niggers I was talking about>>529890417

>>529890063
Then what?

>>529889780
>Honestly any game parry mechanic, melee just needs a reason to exist. Punishers-esque shotguns are better melee weapons right now due to the stagger. Honestly you could give them better stagger, but with their short range they aren't reliable enough for that.
The only thing melee needs is decent damage and stagger/stun so enemies can't just stab through your melee attacks, or at least no melee weapon should ever have worse stagger than your default melee punch.
>b-but your dinky little sword wouldn't stun a space bug the size of a rhino
Yes. This is why melee weapons should all have some sort of energy component or some other enchancement.
>>529890346
I'd like flamethrowers to be able to close bug holes. Not because they need that buff, but because that'd look fucking kino.

>hmmm the incel breaker is the most used bug gun
>should we check out why people don't use other guns as much?
>no, we should nerf the one gun they enjoy instead!
This is good balancing accoring to nerftroon

>>529890417
the sweetspot was when the sickle was new
every patch beyond that is dogshit because they started messing with the patrol system

>>529890426
Squids just aren't fun to fight, every time I get bodied it was always from bullshit like: overseer stunlock, fleshmob stunlock in a corner when i'm trying to do LIDAR, leviathans, looking at squid exploding barrels the wrong way, harvester laser beam touching my left toe... all that bullshit

>>529884381
3/4 again join

>>529890586
>Hey here is one of the stupid niggers I was talking about
Good. Now argue with him about whatever shitty opinion he's talking about without putting words in his mouth and people might actually start taking your arguments seriously. Good luck.

>>529890767
Pics like this make me wonder how many old planetside fags are hanging around in here

>>529890417
>the game was better when you got constantly one tapped from 200m away
Yes. Use cover faggot.
>and 90% of the primaries were useless
No.

>>529890653
>I'd like flamethrowers to be able to close bug holes. Not because they need that buff, but because that'd look fucking kino.
Oh yeah I could totally see that.

>>529890653
>The only thing melee needs is decent damage and stagger/stun so enemies can't just stab through your melee attacks, or at least no melee weapon should ever have worse stagger than your default melee punch

50/50, I think melee absolutely needs more damage, but I still think it needs a way to just work on it's own in close quarters as a reliable secondary. Like you can take the verdict and with the high ergo you can mag dump 10 chaff units and kill them before they even touch you. Then just reload and do it again. Melee weapons can theoretically do this too, but you're gonna get hit nearly every time. In fact it's so very likely you'll get hit, that I'd just say giving a parry would be the best solution to this. Or something stupid like health regen on kill to mitigate resource lost, but they'd never do that.

>>529890767
Gas dog + MG Sentry, the only must loadout for me on squids.

>>529890824
full

Frags, gas, or thermite for krieger shovel larp?

>>529890919
>Yes. Use cover faggot.
Okay. Ooops, the rocket dev ragdolled me through the giant rock I was using as cover, and now I'm out in the open, on the ground, with no control of my character and get instantly shredded by a heavy dev.
Such fun.
>No.
Yes.

>>529884381
ggs it was silly

>>529890767
They've kinda grown on me. Got a buddy that fucking hated squids too, and we just spent an afternoon fighting them until we got used to the meta and what to bring against them.

I think the hardest part about them is bringing shit that I'd usually consider OP, and say "Naw on illuminate it's okay"

>>529890995
Yeah those are good, thermite is really useful because you can just ping an illum ship and get to 70m and arc a thermite; cuts down a lot on the tedium of shield humiliation ritual

lobby doko onegai desu?

>>529891218
i just throw a nade when they do that, or shoot the legs

>>529891261
reading comprehension anon

>>529890767
>overseer stunlock
I think it would be cool if overseers had two melees, a sweep that you needed to dodge backwards, and an overhead that you needed to dodge sideways. Give both attacks extra knockback so you don't just get stuck on the ground and stunlocked forever and I think that would be cool.
>fleshmob stunlock in a corner
That's honestly just a you problem. Unless they're clipping through the floor and walls.
>leviathans
At this point I'm pretty much convinced leviathans are always going to be either unfair or completely neutered with no inbetween.
>looking at squid exploding barrels the wrong way
Squid barrels are honestly fine.
>harvester laser beam touching my left toe
It would be cool if you could hobble around on a stump, but I really don't mind this either.

>>529891218
Thermite feels mandatory, or taking an orbital that'll nuke ships.
Gatling, OPS, 120 do pretty solid work. Gatling is nice though cause it can be used on chaff as well. It also helps when one of your thermites bounce.

And they will bounce.

>>529891123
>Okay. Ooops, the rocket dev ragdolled me through the giant rock I was using as cover
The frequency of this happening has been so greatly exaggerated that it is sickening. Also if you used deep enough cover then you would have been fine. Never had a problem with using cover against bots during the pre buff days so I always find it so disingenuous when the "le bots shoot through cover" meme comes up.

>>529891294
im tired give be a break my brain grabbed shields and ran with it

>>529891329
>the thing that fucks up the narrative in your head is actually a "meme" and "exaggerated"
And you wonder why nobody wants to seriously argue with your disingenous, bad faith argument ass

>>529891072
Gas or thermite

>>529891313
>fleshmob stunlock in a corner
It's mostly just a problem in cities where you don't get the space you need because the map seed decided to throw 5 fleshmobs at you and your teammate jetpacked away from the obj after he triggered the tattle triangle

>>529891418
Gas it is. Might bring a scorcher for the "plasma gun"
Could do a sickle too. But trench shotgun was sorta my first pick.

>>529891415
>Calls me "bad faith" and "disingenuous" when literally every opinion or "arguement" he has is parroted from YouTubers, redditors, and just straight up hearsay.
You probably had bout 10 hours of gameplay before the buff patch dropped.

>always though venus looked fucking retarded
>try it out
>actually matches the helldiver yellow and looks better with the full drip
well shit

>>529891667
Still 10 hours more than you

>>529891702
it comes with the debuff of being called pissdiver

>>529891072
Remember to bring the WW1 rifle.
You aren't larping Krieg right till you have bayonet charged a charger.

>>529891608
Termites could also pass as melta charges if your loadout needs the extra AT.

holy shit there really are random breaker incendiaries, I thought those POIs were just bullshit.

>>529891702
best thing about it is the orange scope

>>529891768
hmmmmMMmmmm that's actually not a bad idea.
Granted it'd be hard to justify with a melee weapon.

>>529891902
I once found a Scythe
was a recently discovered POI so it wasn't from any of us

(you) WILL NEVER get a scope for the constitution and (you) WILL be happy!
>inb4 git gud lol (doesn't actually use the thing)

>>529892184
wait you use scopes? I thought people only used ADS when the camera broke

Why do people say ARs are bad?

>>529892184
People want a clip, not a scope.

>>529892250
It's just bad players running their mouth as they usually do.

>>529892421
bro if you want a clip just play the liberator

>>529892490
I will rape you.

>>529892250
Diligence does it better on bots than every other AR. Like this isn't debateable honestly.
Bugs they're alright, But you'll need an AP3 side arm for certain chaff.
Squids they're kinda weak outside of sniping watchers.


I like em though, least the AP2 ones. The ap3? fucking mediocre.

>>529892490
A clip, not a mag.

>>529892421
>People want a clip, not a scope.
I want a faster reload so I can reload cancel or at least reload it like the punisher.

>>529892571
>>529892548
milsimfag melty
>>>/arma/

>>529892250
mediocre really, they were bad back when the Defender was an objectively better Lib

>>529892702
I mean there is a gameplay difference.

>>529892250
They're not bad, but you always have something better for most situations

>Bots
Diligence or Dominator
>Bugs
Cookout, Xbow
>Squids
Scorcher, Eruptor

There's nothing wrong with taking ARs, but other weapons are just vastly more efficient.

>>529893229
I just can't stand the Dominators projectiles, they always feel strange and I miss way more with it

>>529891902
>no extra xp if you find poi weapon and extract with it
>no extra samples from found weapons
>not possible to unlock weapon by finding it in map
Sad

>>529893286
You just need to use it more. After a while it becomes second nature.

>>529891902
>>529892139
One time I found a laser cannon. I had to check my team if anyone of them had brought an LC, but nope.

>>529893286
Honestly, I get it. I fucking hated the Dominator since launch but recently picked it up again with the customization shit. The extra ergo from the buffs + angled grip REALLY made a difference with how the gun feels, even with the funky projectiles. If you haven't played since, I encourage you to give it another try because it's actually really fucking nice.

>>529891768
yeah that was fun- wait you mean the amendment right?

>>529893286
THUMP THUMP THUMP THUMP

>>529893525
They're pretty common on the hellbomb POI

>>529893359
>get 100 kills with it and you unlock it

>>529892250
the recoil feels like shit in this game and tap firing the assault rifles does no damage

>>529889496
Actually what we have in game is more like butane torch. Fuel is gas that gets set in fire at mouth. In real life. Western Flamethrower fire napalm like liquid that gets set on fire at mouth. Napalm burns for some times. Basically you coat everything on sticky liquid that burns.
Best ww2 flamethrower had enough fuel for 7secs of continued fire and range of 20-40m depending on wind.
But real kicker is what killed the people. Naturally nobody wants to be set on fire. So people ran away from it. But fire wasn't what killed people. It was carbon monoxide. It produces shitload of CO. Enough to knock person down in instant. People ended up dying to CO before flames got them. It was even more deadly in fortifications. It would flood them in CO and kill everyone in there. Tempeture of m2 flamethrower was 1000°c
Russian flamethrower are diffrent beast. To them every incinderay weapon is flamethrower. Cookout would be flamethrower in russia.
But russia has whole arsenal of flamethrowers. Like missiles that have flammable substance. Most likely dust. First explosion spreads it. Then it gets set on fire. This causes whole area to be lit on fire. They also have also messed around drone flamethrowers that shoot thermite like substance.

In helldivers. Regular flamethrower should stagger and have gas like effect. It should have longer range. It should leave flames everywhere it touches that burns for some time. But enemies we fight are either robots. Aliens with advanced technology and bugs with hard bug outershell. Enemies slowly getting cooked alive would be fine.
But game should also have med pen flamethrower with thermite kinda fuel. Narrow stream that dose way more damage. Used to pierce through armour and burning through enemies.

>>529893229
>Bot
Eruptor or Scythe

>>529890617
play the game with it?

>>529893229
>bugs
Xbow or eruptor
>bots
Xbow or eruptor
>squids
Xbow or eruptor

>>529894341
>Scythe
AP2fags won't like it

>>529892227
My monitor has build in crosshatch feature. I just turn it on and fire from hip. Including amr and railgun

>>529894473
>AP2fags won't like AP2 laser
what?

>>529874464
If rocket's would work properly against bugs. I would run with flamethrower way more

Does the game have mic only matchmaking yet? Or is it still like playing with bots?

>>529893621
I meant constitution.
Also, you better use all artillery on your stratagem slots and keep these two tracks on at all times.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FzRAVXfsk20
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q79c8injqBM

>>529894750
>Also, you better use all artillery on your stratagem slots

When they release it, it will be all I use.
I use an HMG and pretend it's a heavy bolter emplacement.

>>529891072
Try a Senator to your head

>>529895337
I did my cowboy larp last week.

>>529894208
This, but I'm not used to recoil in other games. Usually I just see games balance their guns with spread.

>>529895064
You know I'm kinda surprised we haven't got something like a double AC emplacement yet.

>>529895520
I just wish it moved the camera only instead of having the bounding box as well. It's like a bastardized version of pubg recoil.

>>529895590
>AC
>AC Sentry
>AC mech

AT-Emplacement is probably the closest we'll get.

>>529895901
A mech with two AT-emplacements for arms would feel way different from two Autocannons, so I think they're different enough to have a niche, and I hope you're wrong.

>>529896116
Don't worry, you'll get a mech with just one

>>529884381
>>529881737
GGs my Nigga

>>529884381
ggs bros

>>529896609
>jeanne
holy based

>>529896116
>>529896268
nah, it will have 1/4 of the demo force so it cost 2/3 of the mag to use on heavy units

>>529897003
why would demo force have anything to do with its efficiency against heavy units?

>>529884381
>>529896587
ggz
>catbox down
fuarkkk

alright 4chan how do i bot dive good

>>529897902
shoot head

>>529897902
Head on!
Apply directly to forehead

>>529876359
Should have said block*
But parrying when enemies attack would be cool too.

>>529897902
You don't have to do much of anything. D10 bots basically just plays the game for you.

>>529897673
>M2 as the HMG
what mod is that?

>>529897902
Shoot dev head
Kill zerker before they melee you
Shoot many troopers
Have AP4 for hulk eye
Bring something big for fabricator or shoot eye with rockets.(Shoot off the guns with AP4 or AP3 if you don't got any, most deadly enemy on the front)
Rocket cannon turrets and tanks.
Bring whatever else you feel like for fun and as a treat.

Go prone whenever you can, and heavy armor and explosive resistance isn't a bad idea either.

The scariest part about bots are their chaff honestly. Factory striders will kill you but their chaff can be endless and spread out. But they're slow and easy to dispatch.
But they're a simple and fun faction, very relaxed when you get the hang of em.

>>529898325
Probably the m2 HMG mod

all vehicle stratagems should come with a pelican airlift substratagem. decreases remaining time by half if on cooldown, fully repairs and restocks ammo, and re-adds a use back to the total

>>529898325
https://www.nexusmods.com/helldivers2/mods/4969?tab=description
dis one

ModDivers I require your most powerful Constitution iron sights mods.

>>529898671
thanks, a bit shinier than i was expecting but cool nonetheless

>>529898717
>didn't jump the leg
ngmi

>>529898717
>malicious code doesn't exis-

>>529898717
Enemy corpses are a bigger threat than the enemies themselves.

>>529899438
>Devs confirm there is no malicious code
>And yet the airburst orbital continuously fleks a single particle of hate that hits players every single time 60 meters away in the opposite direction of the blast

>>529899685
It's a good thing we can't see other players' mods because otherwise I would have no choice but to sexually assault you.

>>529899650
I always felt that the eagle scatter is the one that has a malicious fleck.

Modders always have shit taste and they always pick mods that ruin the immersion.

>>529900096
its a good thing you can't see them isn't it

>>529900514
>he doesn't know