Carnival Edition
Previously on /coopg/ :
>>530240807>Latest News/Updates:Vermintide 2:
Steam Hotfix 6.6.4 - 30th of June
https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/steam-hotfix-6-6-4-30th-of-june/110130
Darktide:
Free Update: Battle for Tertium - Out Now! (Patch Notes)
https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/free-update-battle-for-tertium-out-now-patch-notes/109117
Hotfix #71 (1.8.3) - Patch Notes
https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/hotfix-71-1-8-3-patch-notes/110509
>Acknowledged but not really discussedReady Or Not
Starship Troopers Extermination
Aliens: Fireteam Elite
Killing Floor 2
Barotrauma
Left4Dead 2
SCP: 5K
GTFO
No More Room in Hell 2
Helldivers 2
Space Marine 2
Remnant 2
Payday 3
Back4Blood
Deep Rock Galactic
Earth Defense Force 6
WWZ
The Outlast Trials
The Forever Winter
Firebreak
Wildgate
and others
>Future gamesKilling Floor 3 - delayed
https://store.steampowered.com/news/app/1430190/view/499441143215293470
Den Of Wolves - TBA
DarkSwarm - TBA
Blight: Survival - TBA
Jump Ship - TBA Demo Out
Build planners:
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Deep Rock Galactic: http://karl.gg/
Darktide: https://darktide.gameslantern.com/build-editor
>>530330752hello brownoid
How does a toilet seat help control psychic powers
>>530331064Same reason Indians can't tolerate toilets.
It keeps Nurgle out.
that one esl dude in the previous thread trying his hardest to sound white lol
I had a massive diarrhea a few minutes ago. After like 30 minutes of pain I looked down the toilet seat and saw every class outside the Arbiter
>>530331064It's basically an advanced tinfoil hat.
Which should also be a cosmetic.
>>530331232who? me? No Im american im just stupid as fuck
>>530331232the one trying to force the "casino" meme even though it doesn't even make sense regarding the loot situation? yeah, I don't think he even knows what a casino is
>>530330976>>530331219don't bring previous threads shit into a new one, newfags
So whats the bleed damage maxxed build for arbites? Just had a guy in my havoc do 2.9m damage
>>530331512pointlessly using the term newfag like this outs you out, newfag
Everyone in havoc has golden titles except me...
>>530331512>immediately gets offended at a joke not directed at him or the previous conversationWelp, I guess I accidentally found the jeet. I don't even know what you fags were talking about, I don't pay attention to ESL
>>530331684cuz you SUCK! BAD!
I hate it how they have made Warhammer all soft, friendly and liberal. Faggots and women couldn't tolerate the grimdark and cruel imperium so they infested this franchise with the woke mind virus!
Also, why are all these characters so mean to me?? I fucking hate this woke snarky asshole vibe where none of the characters feel like they care about me!
>>530331684Well, now's the time to get your True Survivor by running a 4 man dogmaxxed team.
Which you WILL NOT have gotten if you get it by doing so.
>>530332006Who are you quoting?
>>530331694I love this cope
I'm ESL, I intentionally seek out English speaking communities because all the online discourse in my native language is full of abject retards. Why the FUCK would I want people to know I'm one of those "i still become another heal please^^" subhumans? And that's relatively tame, why would anyone want to be associated with the average french/spanish speaking retard? Crazy
>>530332006you will never die for the imperium
Fact: Golden titles should be bound to characters. If you used an ogryn, arbitrator or zealot to get your True Survivor, you didn't beat the challenge.
>>530332006>heheh... if I put it this way, they cant complain about the emasculation>in fact, emasculation is for real men!not sure it works like that buddy
>>530332149nta, I'm Euro ESL too but English speaking communities are just a different flavour of braindead to the native ones
>>530332332Based and true
>>530332332I think you should suck me
>>530332332What if I did it on zealot without the thing that makes you survive with 1 hp?
>>530332337I am pointing out that faggots complain about imaginary emasculation of the setting while throwing a girly crying bitch fit the moment a black female pilot banters at them.
>>530332149only people with a brain are fellow esls, not monoliguals to be precise
everyone who can't speak more than 1 language is always a braindead retard
>>530332364It is slightly better if it's an international community though. If proper English is expected and poor grammar ridiculed, it at the very least filters out all the retarded subhumans who can't even learn a second language. Of course there's still Americans and Brits but what can you do
>>530332656the emasculation of the setting isnt imaginary, and the fact that all your superiors in darktide are bitchy women is part of it. cease your mental gymnastics
>>530332332>get my vet ass carried by my sweatlord mates Ok, I've beat the game, kneel.
>>530331064It's space magic, I ain't gotta explain shit.
Do I do
>Target the Weak in Havocs
>Target Priority in Aurics
Most builds I have end up me needing to pick between the two or dropping something like Efficient Killer or a toughness option for one.
>>530331064They have embedded space-magic crystal in them that help them vent out excess energies and block out potential attacks. Every psyker is a high risk potential conduit for daemonic invasions or enemy psyker attacks without them.
So what are we thinking like another year before we get a new class?
>>530333248Target the weak is good in aurics too. It's free damage.
What's even the point of playing Arbiter? Do people seriously enjoy playing a completely broken mess in a fucking pve game? are they this inferior?
>>530333586Most likely yeah.
>>530333625It's not like I think it's bad. I just think it'll affect breakpoints less in Aurics (though I haven't gone and thoroughly tested this). Seems like it'd bring more benefit in Havocs where enemies have more health whereas Target Priority would lose value there. It's hard to grab all the damage nodes without losing good stuff.
>>530333695Change of pace. I spent the last several days back on my Zealot and Vet, but now I wanna bash things again
>>530333695>What's even the point of playing Arbiter?New content, because there's nothing else to do.
And no, I don't consider making a shittier mission terminal and then a pointless story campaign that I had already played through before (literally just the same old missions as before), as content.
>>530333586Hard to say. Depends on what else they are working on and how well they succeed in dev and sales. They released Ratclick classes twice a year up until Necromancer, which took them like two years.
>>530333695Maybe you are just a lone lifeless retard who holds a "code of honor" for video-games and most normal people don't think the way you do.
>>530334129>not sleepwalking through a game is considered a "code of honor" now
>>530334282No, it's considered autism. That's just what I call your autism.
>>530333695>class is strong but fair>AIIIIIEEEEEEEEEE NERF NERF NERFstfu RAJinald
>>530333695TO piss off piss babys like you.
>>530334347>if you don't completely lack self conciousness you are le autistic!why are you even on this site, honestly?
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>there are anons right here in this very thread who own arbites, and can't climb out of havoc 20 even with razor-jaw being completely broken overpowered
if you play arbites you are quite literally brown inside
>>530334347not even that anon but if you think this busted ass character is good for the game youre retarded, this game isn't even hard so the fact you consider this handholding ass class as "bruh i just wanna have fun dood" youre a shitter who should just uninstall
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vgIuxhRphNU
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Maelstroms are unironically easier now. Sometimes they feel like Damnation-tier. Think the director is broken sometimes. Went earlier through Consignment Yard and we got like two big Reaper/Crusher waves and one (1) Beast of Nurgle. We even lost one Arbitrator to a strategic explosion toss into pit, but that didn't cause issues at all.
>>530334972>not Telopotsignored and blocked
>>530334972https://4chan.org/advertise
>>530331684I look like that
>>530334342I wish there were a way to play normal Darktide again, without arbies, without skill trees, without ADhD retard speed content, back when every pack of just three crushers was a big deal.
>>530335004>Maelstroms are unironically easier now. Sometimes they feel like Damnation-tier. Think the director is broken sometimes.Or it could be the fact that 3/4 of your team are made of 2 of the most OP classes currently.
Ogryn was already making aurics easy if you knew how to play him, right. (most people don't)
Arbites on the other hand are just full on unbalanced, full of crutches (true grit, castigator stance), and over powered to the point, where they invalidate the challenge of the game.
>>530335389You were obviously the team's deadweight. Glad you died they won't have to worry about carrying you for a moment.
>>530335460yeah, good old times when the crafting system didn't completely trivialize the gearing
>>530335460Skilltrees are what trivialized the entire game. Damnation was actually hard before they existed
he's trying to be sneaky now
>>530335460>I wish there were a way to play normal Darktide again, without arbies, without skill trees, without ADhD retard speed content, back when every pack of just three crushers was a big deal.I got a game just for you.
>>530335389Good dog, total psygger death
>>530334473>arguing self consciousness>morals>in a videogameKek, this is exactly what I mean
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>>530334972>140 degree fov>cheat radius indicators on hazards>cheat indicators items>cheat indicator on dodge limits>turns rescue targets invisible so that don't risk hiding a mauler behind ogryn or something>numbers on everything to suck out the last bit of uncertainty out from combat>hacked ultra low lighting maps>ziggerWhat's the point of playing the game at that point?
>>530335730I do somewhat agree with this, I think. When skilltrees were added they came with new abilities that were very poorly balanced. Psykers just spamming assail to clear entire maps, smite just being held down all the time (more than it is now even).
Even though there were balance passes afterwards the game became much more trivial overall.
>>530335730Skilltrees are better. The old system was boring and beyond shit.
>>530331665Someone answer this before I have to look up which talents work with dog bleed
>>530335460>without arbies, without skill trees, without ADhD retard speed contentThat unironically sounds so fucking gay. I play to be a 300 apm adhd god carrying the shitstains in my team.
>>530335795>What's the point of playing the game at that point?point point
>Havoc-Forged keeps turning itself back on when I purposefully took my title off after getting my 40 rank again
FUCK
OFFFFFFFFFFFFF
>>530335782where did I mention morals? it's you who brought up a fucking "code of honour" out of nowhere. You good buddy?
Reddit might be more up your speed if we are being honest, normalfag
>>530334839shouldnโt that mean they should see a doctor?
>>530335751I do actually play this game substantially, however I want a 40k version which existed prior to skill trees being added to Darktide.
>>530336027target priority and fast reactions were way more important before gameplay just turned into
>every direction you look is a wall of crushers and 500 gunners so you approach everything the same anyway
>>530336027Play Warframe then.
>1% of sweatlord nolife autismos shit and piss their panties about how THE GROUND IS TOO SOFT
Hmm... I wonder how the 99% of the playerbase or the developer that relies on said 99% for profit should adress that?
how do i actively grief people? not stuff like smite where it still helps a little since it stops enemies. I want to be an active obstacle to my teammates (my friends just bought the game and invited me to play with them)
>>530333695I can't wait for the other three human classes to get their reworks so you can shut up already.
>>530336545post the weapons
>>530336554Run ahead as far as you physically can, using knife to run as fast as possible, then once you've aggroed and rounded up all of the enemies you can, either intentionally die or press the stealth button to de-aggro and they'll all come after your teammates. If they're new and bad, they'll all die.
>>530336346Auric is legitimately too easy to beat right now though. I'm not measuring this by my winrate (I've always carried it) but by how often randos die. Randos averaged like 3 full deaths between them in every auric before. In old damnation before p13, it was legitimately 5+. Auric maelstroms used to sometimes have 10+ full deaths also.
Now I honestly don't remember the last time there was a full death other than barrel related.
>>530336554barrels, revive in fire (current event is good for this)
>>530336554Shoot every barrel you see, especially when a teammate is close to them
When your friend goes to shove a poxburster, shoot the poxburster
Throw Zealot flame grenades ontop of Flamer and Bomber flames, preferably on a modifier like Inferno since your friends are noobs and probably can't distinguish between flames
>>530336545Helmet variants pls?
>>530336710This is also one of the few ways people will actually kick you though so it's usually a shortlived grief
My personal favorite is barrels. People don't pay enough attention to understand you're doing it intentionally
>>530336545I just want basic cadian sets for all the classes that aren't stuck in the slopshop.
>>530336865Oh yeah and if your friends are super new tell them to shoot Daemonhosts
>>530336554oh and steal any and all ammo pickups (just shoot once if you're full and pick it up) and hog ammo/med boxes (as pick them up and never deploy them), pick up grims and refuse to drop them
>>530337097Sadly, all the classes are stuck in the slopshop.
>>530336554Pull a demonhost then DC, it'll kill someone else
>>530337075It's the closest thing to reliable and effective griefing you get in this game. Shooting bursters in someone's face or trying to barrel someone off a map is highly dependent on what map you're on, barrel RNG, and spawn RNG.
I guess another thing is, what, ogryn with rumbler spam and box with extra grenades to make your thirdies' graphics cards explode?
>>530336732you suck at this, slopgook was better
Glad that Cadia fucking exploded, stuck the main plot in this shit for years was a mistake.
>>530335887Problem isn't the skilltrees.
The problem is Fatshark's insistence on being retarded and refusing to actually balance shit in a sensible, smart manner. Like actually buffing enemy health and making them more dangerous. Like they should have.
But no, instead they only buffed enemy health very minorly and then decided to resort to just "clown cars of elites + 3 bosses" approach to balance, which then fucked any last shred sense the game had.
And this is retarded way of doing it because most of the OP shit in the skilltrees is triggered on elite and specialist kills. Meaning more you spam elites and specialists, easier the game gets because you can trigger shit like psykinetic's aura 3 times per second due to killing elites, which then lets you spam your super strong combat abilities constantly.
Also this "clown cars of elites" shit is what has landed this game into this braindead meta that's dominated by the dueling sword. Because when the AI director just spawn 10-20 crushers at once, the only fucking solution to that problem is shit like the dueling sword or other high power weapon that just rapes carapace.
This is one of the main reasons why people whine about DS being one of the only good weapons and rest are trash, because it is sadly kind of true.
Darktide would not be in this fucking position if Fatshark and its devs could pull their heads out of their asses and realize that spamming elites is not a sensible way to do difficulty in a game like this, especially how other shit is designed.
Also we wouldn't be in this shithole currently if Fatshark could actually listened to player feedback AND did balance patches on a timely manner instead of doing them 1 every quarter like the retards they are.
>>530337301holy fuck good idea. I'm going to queue south american servers and spam explosions
>>530336110>however I want a 40k version which existed prior to skill trees being added to Darktide.And I don't.
I won, get fucked.
>>530337462nta but I think a sensible conclusion is
>skilltrees aren't bad>but Fatshark can't pull it offThey need to stick to more simple design like in Ratclick unless they manage to actually hire someone with an IQ above 80
>>530337462Agree on all counts.
>>530336545>>530337815The leaziest slop rotation to date, beating the halloween weapon skin bundles
>>530337815Thanks, so psyker got the best one this time
>>530336090really got your panties in a twist with that truth bomb jej
>>530331064They utilise special circuits connected to psychically attuned crystals which actually dampen and absorb their powers, protecting them from warp energies.
The ones that have brain implants are designed to actually supress their powers and emotions to give them better control at the cost of being weaker.
Some even contain failsafe mechanisms designed to implode if the Psyker loses control erasing them from existence along with their warp presence.
The ones with failsafe's are used more by psykers used for Warp navigation like Sefoni or ones which are particularly unstable but their powers are required.
Finally the big fancy gilded ones are often used as a status symbol alongside Relic versions.
>>530337664They could pull it off extremely easily even now.
>1. stop spamming elites by the dozen and actually buff them, both health and damage>2. stop spamming specials by the dozen and buff their damage and health so they don't get deleted from the map just by someone looking in their direction>3.TREMENDOUSLY increase hordes and their density, add more different horde mobs, add horde enemies with shields, etc.4. make regular chaff shooters into more of a danger, not havoc cancer levels but still a threat that needs to be dealt with
If they just did this the game would instantly go back to being pre-skilltree damnation and still be difficult.
And they wouldn't even need to touch the skilltrees that much. They could still keep psykinetic as it is, because it would instantly get indirectly nerfed hard because there is no longer like 12 fucking shotgunners in a pack waiting to get killed which then insta-refills everyone's combat abilities after you kill them.
>>530337462Besides the spammyness, elites spawning near eachother or in a straight up in a conga line makes them easy as fuck to multikill, so what's the point in spamming them.
Also, thank consoles for ambient becoming nearly extinct. Bunch of gunners all spread out would cause some pain but they conveniently cluster up so you can dunk on them all at once epic style.
I miss ye olde HISTG Damnation.
>>530338817>3.TREMENDOUSLY increase hordes and their density, add more different horde mobs, add horde enemies with shields, etc.Honestly I have no idea how people aren't asking for this more. Vermintide hordes felt actually interesting, in this game they're just completely pointless
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Man, with almost zero investment to buffing the bleed (I am running Execution Order, which is like the single biggest buff to it), and without micro-managing the dog much, you get a fuckload of bleed damage still. Jesus Christ
>>530333695The Warhammer 40,000: Darktide - Arbites Class is the premium option for the discerning gentlemen and women who want to support the game and have fun while doing so.
Any peasants complaining its "overpowered" or "easy" just need to either pay up or get better at the game that they spend more time on than an actual job.
12 Dollars is the price of a light lunch in every country that matters so it's that simple.
>>530339356The dog bleed talent is bugged currently
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>>530337815>sapper's lid>can't even tell if it's a recolor of the "Rioter's lid" helmetThese cunts are just scummy as fuck.
This is just that one Elysian drop trooper combat knife skin, which was also practically identical.
>>530337392Kek I remember that guy too
>>530337450What
>>530339430I know. I'm just amazed at how retarded it is without even going out of your way to buff it
>>530333695Can't wait till the Duelling Spork and Plasma Pisser nerfs drop for the new salt mines to begin once this Arbie seething dies down.
>>530339356Well try to enjoy two months of this, sis :)
>>530339527they changed the texture and colour of the textile
>Fatshark pushes out an update ASAP despite being on their state-mandated summer sw*de vacation when the issue is related to paid cosmetics
>nothing but crickets when it comes to the actual game-shaping bugs like dogbleed
it would be funny if i wasn't too tired to laugh
>>530336280not him but that game looks like ass
>>530339646They fixed bleed explosion pretty quickly. This won't make it longer than 2 weeks is my bet
>>530334689Don't care not playing Havoc
>>530339778*tropical ukulele music starts playing*
>>530339616>>530339356What build would you run if you wanted to go out of your way for it? Is voltaic mandibles important?
>>530339778Only one hotfix this month, sorry.
>>530339778I hope they don't nerf it too hard because I like it that the dog can kill elites and specials in a timely manner.
Like killing a trapper in less than 1 second and the quickly pouncing the next special.
I guess the way to do it would be to reverse it a bit, like the dog damage buffs no longer apply to bleed.
>>530339778>They fixed bleed explosion pretty quicklyAs hinted at by
>>530339694 they only fixed bleed explosions because they were pushing out a cosmetic fix anyway. Unless this newest hotfix introduced another cosmetic bug, we won't see a hotfix until at least mid-August.
>>530334689Sorry that you always rely on broken and bugged talents to carry you in havoc. Maybe one day you'll be able to play without exploits.
>>530340206>only 1 hotfix in july and only 1 august>lobbies are gonna be fucked due to the diabeetus and dogs>next time we see any actual new content like new map or weapons is in like october most likelyJumalauta, ei helvetti.
>ESL
Please, I'm european. English is my third language.
Anyone want to make a 4 bleed dog havoc 40?
>>530339545Are you new? Don't know that 40k plot was stuck in the 13th black crusade over cadia for years?
>>530340796get a load of this guy, he's bad at THREE languages
>>530340796>1st language: french>second : arab
>two months of dogbleed
>all havoc titles and keychains devalued into nothing
havocsissies can't stop taking Ls
>>530341317Poxbreak IS the big boy title
Nice try. Still not trying Havoc. I don't even know what the menu looks like.
>>530341583*shrug* your loss man
How do I dogg bleed bug? I just have to take the razor jaw node?
>>530341742Yes
Every other dog-related damage node will buff the bleed's damage, Executive Order pretty much doubles it
>>530339928I think you just stack dog damage bonuses, but yeah, I'd take VM. It increases kill speed of pounced stuff. More pounced kills = more pouncing = more bleed applications. Definitely run Exec Order for the huge dog damage buff
>the Agripinaa Combat Shotgun outdoes the MkVIII Exterminator Shotgun in every statistic except cleave
I was really hoping it wouldn't be true but the numbers don't lie on this one
>>530341317Might as well abuse it now so I can get true survivor finally.
>>530339415This. So much this! Buying it right now!
>>530340796donโt post my wife with your shitty posts
>>530342045Ammo efficiency, picking up +6 shells on every small ammo pickup? The rending?
Combat shotguns also run faster btw.
>>530341506Correct. 700 hours in and carrying most havoc 40s with ease I still don't have it.
>as bubble-headpop-shotgun psyker
>Torrent Maelstrom
>the holo-statue noob grinder
>solo arby sprints behind enemies via the side passage
>ogryn runs into middle of the open area, gets gunned downed and bombed immidiately
>shield arby runs to the left trying to do whatever, gets downed
>middle is just a sea of fire
>solo arby camping somewhere near the medicae
>run there and pop a shield
>solo arby fights there for a bit but runs off again
>hug a shack and manage to fend all the tox-flamers, gas-bombers and gunners alive
>tell them politely to stop running around like retards
>solo arby already sprinting to the statue to free the captive two
>kill a bunch of snipers and ragers while slowly catching up to them
>stream of flamers, trappers and dogs while releasing them
>proceed to the tunnel
>crushers, gas bombs, ragers, snipers, all the fun
>total clusterfuck, can't brainburst snipers because ogryn and shield arbitrator can't deal with melee mobs
>dodging snipers and ragers as ogryn goes down again, followed by shield arby
>dodge couple more sniper shots before going down
>solo arby finally goes for the snipers
>DOGGED
>>530344371>dog unga bungajust had a game where my dog outdamaged everyone including myself
>>530339527That one is leather, the other one is fabric. These things matter if you want perfect fit for your looks.
>>530342045>>530342930just love how everybody just ignored your bait lmao
*Grabs Felinid*
PLAP PLAP PLAP PLAP PLAP
GET PREGNANT PLAP PLAP PLAP GET PREGNANT
>smite psyker
>has no delusions about how good of a player he is
refreshing
>>530344596Absolutely zero chance of GW giving felinids an official look via partner studio.
>>530344832Did somebody tell him that psykers can use martyrdom?
>>530344883They will not look like this. They will look like ugly chimps.
>>530344832Is this on uprising or are you playing mortis trials and making fun of him for getting the +5 wound passive that he has no control over?
Dog bleed is balanced on Havoc, stop complaining
>>530344556>my baitIt's just a PSA nigger. Cause until a few hours ago I thought the CS were still dogshit but I died Agripinaa with Full Bore No Respite and it just does insane DPS next to the Mk8 that I'd been using up until that point.
I'm kind of tired of Arbites. Like they're not even playing well so they're not that OP, but it's the fucking dog. Playing with 3 Arbites? There'll be 3 dogs running around perfectly killing everything that could possibly be a threat, while the players stand with their shield up and drool. This is like Ogryn but 500x more braindead. The dog kills every special, every elite, wipes out hordes, kills Ogryn enemies in two pounces... Why put something like this in a game where the fun is dealing with emerging threats?
>Arbites player does 393k damage in Auric
>half of it is his dog
Jesus fucking Christ. How are you this fucking bad when you're playing Arbites
I want to play veteran but I never feel like I actually have to use my ranged weapon? I think I can always just slide once and reach the range enemies with my melee instead of swapping to ranged. I'm too used to ogryn.
>>530347057Lone wolf is so much more fun, dog is such a shitter crutch for people that dont know how to dodge specials.
>>530347717The difference is that your melee sustain and stamina regen is inferior. You won't really feel it though until shit gets really bad. Then you'll wish you'd shot more
>>530347678I just played a game where my dog had 430k damage
>>530347932Highest I hit was around 290k, but I haven't changed anything in my builds for it. I'm more talking about how little damage he did on his own, not the dog's current power
how the fuck do you even see your dog's damage separate from yours
>>530348157Just look at bleed damage + companion damage (assuming you aren't running another source of bleed)
>>530347893This is cope for people who haven't even played the class. It's only dogs, and your own dog likely won't get you soon enough to save you from getting raped by the token flamer/bomber that's always there to combo. Mutants still grab, pound, and most likely toss you if your dog isn't currently closeby.
>>530348061Yeah I just thought it was funny how my dog had more damage than that guys entire player slot
>>530347898Both the melee and ranged sustain is dogshit compared to ogryn and abrites so what's your point?
>>530348157>>530348228Oh, you may need to update, especially since the modder doing the scoreboard plugin has long stopped updating it. Another guy picked it up here
https://www.nexusmods.com/warhammer40kdarktide/mods/514?tab=description
>>530348302oh kek, yeah. That would've been more damage than any of us did, to be fair. It was an 18 minute run through fucking dog spam (non-HI), so there wasn't a ton of mass
>>530348256The only people coping are the ones using dogs. Its for shitters.
>"vacuum capsule" spammer deleting bosses in 5 seconds in auric morsleep trials
>"nah mate Arbites is not OP other classes have busted shits too"
>check account's friendlist
>Telopots
lmao, lol even
>>530348513It's only $12 and you're jealous. Sad!
>>530348402My point is that Vet's worse sustain is one of the main motivations to not rush into melee all the time, jackass
>>530348513There's no point adding conditions to Arbites talent choices being for shitters or not. The entire class is baby proof, so it's a moot point. My friend who refuses to learn the core mechanics of blocking, dodging, and pushing goes down in Malice games on his new Zealot but makes it through Aurics without downing once.
>>530348594I own the class and run lone wolf. Youre just bad at the game
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CGK0hMyK2iU
i know im the only one hype but still posting
>>530347893I also have more fun with lone wolf because I don't like having an NPC around that kills shit for me. I don't know how people enjoy that, it's boring.
>>530348757Man, when are we gonna get a game where the wincest siblings aren't gross, demented freaks?
I wish I could get my friends to try that game out with me. It looks neat
>>530348757Youโre not the only one. Had no idea this was coming. They look positively fun. Thanks for posting
>>530348726What cope are you going to come up with when I ask for your havoc rank and it turns out you haven't even touched the mode?
>you were le carried>mode is le shit>it's le easy I could le do it any timeAnything I haven't thought of?
>>530348895probably never the best you can hope for is habsbergs the game
its really good i got it on sale and its one of my favorite games now
>>530349071You were carried, the mode is shit, its easy and I could do it anytime. Have fun with the crutch dog that kills enemies for you
>>530349071I agree with him and I have true survivor and an active h40 assignment (which I don't play more than once a week because the modifiers are unfun)
>>530348593every class can melt bosses in 5 seconds on fucking MORTIS TRIALS, the mode known for making everyone insanely overpowered, retard
>>530349032no worries im excited to see what theyre doing with Amelia
>>530349071Arbitrator is easy and OP but I'm not H40 just because I don't want to bro trust me it's actually you who's bad because you're H40
>>530349243>>530348593>newfag finally figured out how to copy some jewtuber's drooling sword plasma vet build>Dunning Kruger kicks into top gear and he has the audacity to imply pay to win over something literally everyone can do even outside of the meme mode that gives you infinite damage>but in the meme mode that gives you infinite damageGod this general is fucking retarded.
>>530348721Arbitrator is Weenie Hut, Dogitrator is Weenie Hut Jr.
Wallet-tiders can't get gud with default classes, maybe Ogryn LOL
>>530349685>>530348593this was just screencapped and posted in the telopots discord so you know who's talking
>>530344371memeing aside, this truly does hold true 99% of the time for posts here and; having played pub matches myself, i believe almost all of them
>>530348721>My point is that Vet's worse sustain is one of the main motivations to not rush into melee all the time, jackassTrue I guess. Which is why me being so used to ogryn is such a pain. I was never once punished for charging 1000 gunner because I can just regen all my toughness instantly no problem.
>>530350171t-the dueling sword is still better...!
Also this isn't even showing how the dog can kill a crusher in one pounce now
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>>530350171Why is your screen flashing with LGBT propaganda
>>530350171U-uh post your Havoc rank!
Arbites is a FAIR and HONEST class for pro gamers like myself!
>>530350171>that's just an OP weapon>give him a crusher and see how-
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>>530350453which pride flag does this represent?
always last man standing. genuinely feel like everyone but me is a retard. if I so much as leave my teammates alone for 5 seconds they go down somehow. how long will it take people to adapt those supposed pay-to-win super overpowered easy ways to win as arbitrator? do I buy?
>>530350481No they banned like 3 of my accounts in there so I have to lay low or the german autistic transgender janitor is gonna get the rest too
>>530350346>>530350593Itยดs the deaf pride flag
>>530350814lies, all telopots beta orbiters are low educated, low income slavs from shitholes like serbia or hungary
>>530351027> low educated, low income slavsThis applies to most people in germany too to be honest, down to the genetics
People won't stop playing with their class just because you're throwing a hissy fit.
>>530351132most germans are descendant of the russian rape babies when they took over germany in 1945 so they are honorary slavs
>Everyone uses Ogryn lines for raising Arbies because the Arbies never died in testing
>>530350593The I Have To Play With Crutches To Not Suck pride flag.
>>530350308>t-the dueling sword is still better...!it is
this is just the arbitrator class itself being bonkers, as seen by it doing the same thing with a crusher
>>530350453
>>530349982It happened, I'm a pub match
>>530351458It still outperforms the dueling sword because the arbites can't have a dueling sword
>>530351458is it though? I played my op dueling sword classes again recently, felt like it took much more time than it used to to clear trash and mixed
is it because of getting spoiled by arbites, or did the swedes actually nerf the dueling sword in the last months?
if arby maul is so good then who do 90% of arbeetles run shield and maul then hmm?
>>530351825>or did the swedes actually nerf the dueling sword in the last months?The dueling sword has received only buffs, never a nerf
>>530351862because 90% of the playerbase is made of shitters and casuals
My tier list is
ogryn > psyker > arbites > zealot >veteran
Based on havoc 40 success rate. Ogryn has like a 90% success rate while everyone else is around 50%. Either luck or idk
>>530350814just post a screen of the convo they can't know who you are, retard. Unless you're just a faggot making things up.
>>530351971Forgot to say my win rate with veteran and zealot is close to 0% these classes just don't do jack shit in reality compared to the others. You have to work like x10 harder to do the same thing.
>>530351318Well shit, you might be right.
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>arbitrator
premium purchased
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>mod list
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>chat wheel
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>>530351419I'll uninstall it once they fix the audio cues
they're gonna buff veteran and zealot and psyker and you're just going to have to grow up and stop complaining that they made the game have a bigger community than just "people who want to pretend they are good at something"
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>>530339694>People bought the deluxe edition for a fancy cape>Then like a week later fatshark ruined the cape with some hideous numbers>Paypigs madI don't want to defend fatshark but after such a monumental fuck up yeah, no wonder that was a priority.
Vet needs
>Castigator stance but focused on ranged combat
>hellgun
Class is fixed
>>530359032>no (You)Anon... ;-;
I'm surprised by how few Arbitrators I've seen with face tattoos
Did everyone agree to follow roleplay laws and not put gang signs on their space cops?
Also I would totally pay for an arbites helmet with a skull mouth
>>530360154>Also I would totally pay for an arbites helmet with a skull mouthYou bet your curly tail i'd oink for that
wow... holy shit. Now that arbites got old the general is actually dead. Where are the posts?
>>530360276wait I'll fix that
*ahem*
Telopots was right about /coopg/
>>530360276I tried livening things up with a couple shitposts but it seems its night time in the third world.
>>530360395Kinda true desu
>>530360543India is indeed asleep right now.
>>530360621I doubt anyone in india plays tide games and posts about it on the chan
>the ogryn backs away from the horde
>>530360732Who said they actually even play the game?
>>530360767Step aside, big man. Let the Arbites deal with it.
>>530361046Reginald isn't subject to the same time zones as india
>>530360767I have to run backwards sometimes to save the other players who forgot how to go forwards and get netted.
That's why I take Bull Rush because it allows me to instantly pivot to save them.
I keep all Psyker and Vet players in the corner of my eye because I know they will get pounced or netted or simply go down at any point in time.
>>530361161Don't defend the shitter ogryns
>>530360276It always slows down at this time though? This seems to be a majority American general
>>530360732They definitely post on 4chan. Most people have no idea how many there are on the internet
*Grabs felinid* (female or male)
PLAP PLAP PLAP
GET PREGNANT
PLAP PLAP PLAP
>>530332006no meme arrow therefore you say that and look like that
>>530360732There are more Indians on this website than any other nationality
>>530361358>This seems to be a majority American general/coopg/ has always been majority European. Even at this hour you're talking to euro neets.
>>530361237I defend everyone because this is a team game
>>530360767>Ogryn is a pussy and doesn't push to the hexbound daemonhostDon't worry big man
>>530361608all the """eceleb""" orbiters are turd worlders. I never see NA names pop up here in discussion.
>the lex is HOLY LAW
>the arbiters are acknowledged as holy warriors
>zealots do not know or enforce the lex
>at least one of our zealots is definitely at odds with the lex
>arbiters seem less inclined to recite hymns and are far more practical rather than faithful
huh?
>>530362342>the arbiters are acknowledged as holy warriorsEvery guardsman is a holy warrior
Telopots is making fun of us again
>>530362805Veteran and zealot sucks. Useless. Ogryn/Arbites good melee. Psyker best support.
>>530362342Isn't it like comparing a cop to a priest?
One of them is a law enforcer, the other one is a faithful schizo
It's big ogryn or small ogryn
Which one are you?
>>530362342There isn't just one religion in the imperium
>>530363249very funny, cops don't actually believe in the rule of law lol
I got what i wanted
Now the rest of you can have the skibiditari, ratling, aeldar, ganger or whatever
>>530363552>pretending he wanted the Snorebites class from the beginningHoly hipster
>>530363552I want the felinid with the tight wet pussy.
>>530363552Ratlings and Reclaimators
That'll be the name of the patch that introduces both
>>530364432I literally did
I really wanted another shield class
Is True Grit the most OP talent in the whole game? A single Crusher overhead is usually utterly punishing, but you can tank like 6 before going down with the right health build. Should it be nerfed?
>>530364827Seems like True Grit is a noob trap I mean how many times are you hit by a crusher overhead? learn to dodge and spend your point into something more useful.
>>530364983It saves against triple poxburster too
Hopefully, the admech class personality will be akin to the zealot but towards the Omnissiah.
And hopefully Jesper Kyd will collaborate with Guillaume David.
>>530364983>Seems like True Grit is a noob trap I mean how many times are you hit by a crusher overhead?It has huge value because if you fuck up so badly that you get hit by a crusher overhead, poxburtser, sniper, it usually means that the situation is extremely fucking bad (or you got trapped)
In which case it has big value. It literally prevents losses
>>530365162>admechIt will be a felinid >:3c
>>530360276I was busy playing Tower Dominion. Go away
>>530365162One definitely will.
The other two will be veteran Skitarii and the other will just make 90s modem noises.
>>530364983>dodge overhead perfectcly>flarpshite servers: "uhmmm hehe what if hehe what if you DIDN'T hhahaha what if you DID NOT dodge that perfectly at all actually"
>>530365418Fuck off, tranner.
>>530364983>noob trapPeople had similar ideas about the zealot's until death ability. True grit isn't directly in the path of the best talents unless you are going for the forceful keystone, but mistakes do and WILL happen and true grit will mitigate the consequences of those mistakes
>>530364827No. I don't even run it in Aurics. It is nice to have in Havoks though.
>>530365418>>530365494Tranner made that exact comment
Then i played with him and had to rescue him after a shotgunner pack put him down
>>530365162>>530365325It'll be the ratlings (female locked): over the past 3 years, I've sent 1,027 packages filled with feet pics and midget porn to Fatshark's offices.
>>530365762It will be a felinid with a tight wet pussy >:3c
>>530365162More like Psyker
>Savant-type, by the book Omnissiah praiser>Seer-type, incomprehensible, makes weird noises>Loner-type, gives zero fucks, basically heretek
>>530365325Are those mutually exclusive? Can we not have cyborg catgirls?
>>530365973>Seer-type, incomprehensible, makes weird noisesThe most pure admech of them all.
>>530365978>Implying the Omnissiah will bless vile abhumans
>Ratling (female)
>introducing a new weapon: the long las
>>530366209I am. They're boneheading and servitorizing ogryns.
>>530366349That's not blessing, that's putting them to holy work. An abhuman cannot be a true servant of the Omnissiah or comprehend the blessed machine. They can only do His bidding.
>>530366258Memes aside, i don't think we are ever getting ratlings
We already have an excellent sniper class with the ogryns and they only fill that role as an aside
Okay 40kfags, what is the Phage Tree? Just a Nurgle diseased tree?
>>530367207Anon, how does a tree grow in the fucking underhive? It's made of MEAT and warp goo.
>>530367403Do you think they dragged it in from somehwere else? It's nurgle it obviously grew, just from meat and disease.
Bros, I haven't played VT2 in like a year. Wish me luck.
I only had 330 hours played. I thought I'd played way more
>trying out the Darktide "campaign" on a fresh character
>Pressure Cooker mission keeps disconnecting at the exact same spot with a 2014 error
I don't understand what's going on.
>>530365418Yes, why the fuck would you build something that's only good if you're not in danger?
>>530367827Vermintide 2 is superfluous
Now is the age of darktide
>>530365418Is a perfectly reasonable argument when talking about curios where running wounds has a significantly higher opportunity cost, but one talent point out of thirty isn't a bad price. True Grit isn't out of the way of good stuff you're probably gonna be running anyway, and taking that point away from toughness related talents or damage isn't going to hurt much since Arbites has both of those in a degree of abundance so high that the class trivializes Aurics. As it stands, it's not bad at all to run True Grit compared to something like running a wound curio.
>>530368201Building for wounds isn't building for bad situations, it's building for being carried
picking a talent that makes it so you don't go down if the going gets rough isn't "building for failure" it's "building to carry the team out of a rough spot"
>>530368201Don't crushers insta kill arbiters without true grit?
>>530368359>walk past unavoidable monster closet>no sound burster gets meShit like this happens all the time and it makes me glad i have true grit
>>530367403When you clean it, it sort of looks ok
>>530368413*farts on ur'e post*
sorry anon
>>530368650If you clean it, there would be nothing left
>>530368413He also said that the skill level on American servers was abysmally low.
>>530368361Yes, but you're not going to get hit by them like 99 games out of 100, so even though I agree it's not a bad pick, it's not something you're going to benefit from in the (overwhelming) majority of aurics. I do bring it for high havocs though.
>>530366881They can be even bigger stealthfags than previous classes
>>530369087*smaller stealth fags
>>530334689I'm hardstuck havoc 20 because no one plays havoc and I can't find a party
>>530368738The eyes and horns and everything break off
>>530370557Purgatus
Shield
Psykenetic's aura
>>530370557No idea if this is actually optimal but I clear havoc 40 with it plenty of times. infero staff and duelling sword ofc.
How many times will they rework their fucking classes lmao
First time trying psyker
The default grenade replacement feels really shit, am I really gonna get called a smigger if I use smite?
>>530372374>I really gonna get called a smigger if I use smite?yep
>>530372374are you going to be the sort of person who plays a game where the entire attraction is the combat and then turn the combat off when it gets too exciting?
>>530372531I never played magic user in soulsslop games, maybe that's an answer
I'll try something else
>>530361781I donโt know about more than any other nationality but theyโre definitely here, their sheer numbers dictate it
>>530364432Itโs hardly a stretch
>>530364559>Ratlings*Votann
>>530372374It has unlimited range and continues after breaking line of sight so if you're not using guns or voidblast you can still snipe shit, take out runners or take out gunners if you're stuck with cover
It is handy but it's situational, though those situations come up more than you'd think
>>530365071Just get the guy who did pasqals voice and instantly profit
>>530373714Brain burst is definitely a relic of the past at this point, the game spams so many elites all the time that BB really falls short of either of the other blitz choices and is much less generally useful most of the time. Popping gunners one at a time every few seconds or so while ducking in and out of cover is alright, but when they game shits a gunline with 20 gunners and shotgunners or a conga line of heavy elites running at you BB just feels bad IMO. It's time to kill on big targets is middling at best as well, I just don't think it's kept up at all with the other tools in Psyker's kit.
>>530374210Pasqal's voice actor did a good job, but how much of it was him, and how much of it was whatever sound editing was done after the fact? Nice reply
If arbites is so good and op then why is 90% of this thread hard stuck in havoc 20 or worse hardstuck in baby mode (auric)
>>530374496It's weird because my arbites does just as shit as the other classes but I can carry havoc 40 with my ogryn. From my pov ogryn is like 10 times better than arbites but maybe it's just my playstyle.
>>530374410>im>imma>imma finna>imma finna bouta>BOOORST>kills 1 shotgunner>ogryn slides in>kills 10 crushers in 20 light attacks>pulls out heavy stubber>snipes 12 enemies in 6 shots
>>530374496Because havoc grinding is largely dependent on your teammates from the 20s onward, especially the low 30s. Low 30s are the worst to get through.
>>530374626I think the main difference between the two that makes Ogryn """"less OP"""" is that Ogryn's size makes it far more susceptible to ranged fire, so shitters won't be as carried by their class playing Ogryn as they are with Arbites. That's my guess anyway. I barely touch my Ogryn.
>>530374626Ogryn is way stronger, but he is clunky
>>530365162>Guillaume DavidWho?
Also I agree
>>530365973I can see this too.
Have they fixed the ocular eye crashing my lobbies yet?
>>530375739Only 1 way to find out
>>530375606Composer of WH40k: Mechanicus.
>>530376825oh wow it's [The Current Chest Slop People Are Pigging Out On] with [Headgear I Already Have Been Using For Years To Make This Look Somehow "Unique"] and [Pants No One Notices]!
amazing!
>>530376825unironically kill yourself
>ds4HAHAHAHHA
>>530376825Oh you're going to trigger the poorfags/thirdies
>>530376825https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qwBfGQJhDT8
>>530377146isnt that basically everywhere that isnt china and americans these days?
>>530377420china's still really fucking poor on average, they just have a wild wealth disparity concentrated on the coastal cities
>>530376825Hey paypigs, I have a hazy memory of seeing a psyker torso that looked like a nun last week.
Don't tell me it's just the current megacoat one. I want a nun psyker.
>>530377420holy hell what a worldview
>>530377646still they currently have the highest amount of paypiggies these days on hobbies and that gaymesworkshop is doing a lot to pander to them with the chink fantasy faction selling out
also one of the arbites personalities has a chink accent, with both genders
>>530377795holy fuck you think you can measure an economy by how many people buy cosmetics in the store?
>>530377926when Gaymesworkshop panders to them.
>>530377785It's the one /pol/tard that does nothing but seethe about everything and never talks about the game.
>>530378002you think the countries gamesworkshop panders to are in order of per capita income? You ever take an IQ test or something, they might find something wrong with you
>>530378243they pander to who buys their plastic miniatures
>>530378002Yeah I bet GW is just pandering their stuff sooooooo hard to the one country where depictions of skulls is categorically censored.
>>530378325Yes and do you remember like 5 minutes ago when you said this is how you gauge wether the country is a poor thirdie country or not?
>>530367207It could be both. I think itโs just an infected tree but if a Nurgling daemon infestation got severe enough it could absolutely just make similar structures wholesale by itself
>>530378368That's not really a thing anymore. All our slop rotation items are made in China. Fatshark only makes the penance items.
>>530376072Ah. I wish I could like Mechanicusโ soundtrack more. I think most of it is a little tooโฆ avant-garde? f
For me. Noosphere and Children of the Omnissiah are great though.
Maul on the left, fatalist on the right
>>530378465>That's not really a thing anymoreIt is most definitely still a thing, the only exception is stylised skulls like artwork on a shirt or similar. But depictions of actual skulls (or worse, necromancy of any kind) is still consistently censored by decree of the state.
>>530378368>>530378465Iirc itโs actually skeletons or any depictions of the dead they sperg over. Skulls and bones seem to be fine.
>>530377926the consumer slop index?
>>530377420>chinaDo you get all of your news from tiktok?
The average urban chinaman is about as wealthy as the average mexican and the rural chinamen are poor as fuck
>>530378889Thank you for reminding me why WHF still has such an appeal to me and everyone else. Beastmen and Chaos and shit just unabashedly sucking is such a breath of fresh air
>2025
>Torture animals is ok but show a skull even in videogames is bad
Why chineses are like this?
t. Not burger
>>530377646>>530377420Most of the country is in poverty to the point you can still call it the third world, especially in the south, but โdevelopingโ would be more appropriate I guess
>>530376825You've inspired me to do this, but better.
I still prefer my combat Commissar outfit though
>>530379258with english that shit you really don't have to specify that you're not a native speaker
>>530379034>>530378896Notice I said "not really" a thing anymore. You still have to butter up the right people, by by and large most companies aren't hassled over it anymore.
Do we have any idea when the dueling sword nerf is coming? Couldn't find any news posts about a planned nerf
>>530376825Even the cadia suit looks better
>>5303799562 more weeks
Trust the plan
>>530379956Not before summer vacation is over.
That's for sure.
>>530379956didnt the content shills spill the current ideas circulating before fatshark went on vacation?
>>530379956No, and I'm still convinced that it'll never happen. The moment they nerf the dueling sword they're basically hardlocking 99% of the already small population of players who plays havoc out of H40.
The only way they'll nerf DS and it won't be kinda stupid and kill the havoc population is if they also nerf Havoc along with it, which is a really hard sell because those same fags who crutch on the DS will screech and say NO DON'T MAKE IT EASIER
>>530380393>The moment they nerf the dueling sword they're basically hardlocking 99% of the already small population of players who plays havoc out of H40.You are a Havoclet and, God forbid, an American.
>>530380673What on earth are you saying my nigger? I'm not American and I literally just today played my weekly H40 and every single person who applied was using the DS4
None of those people could survive in Havoc 40 without the busted OP shit like psykinetics aura, piss toughness spam and dueling swords
A duelling sword nerf would mean that only arbiteses and ogryn can frontline in high havocs
Let that sink in
Anyone have perk suggestions of the combat shotgun on Arbitrator. Yes I know I can use the exterminator but variety is the spice of life :)
>>530381540Relic Blade used to do alright in H40s. I didn't play around too much though, so I have no idea what else isn't miserable to use on Zealots.
>>530381624Scattershot and flechette
Forceful arbiteses get 50% cleave on their ranged attacks too
>>530381540For the average player it would mean that yes. I've been bringing shovels, catachan swords, autoguns and double barrel shotties to H40 for a while now. They're obviously not ideal but it is beatable that way.
The issue is that most players just aren't good enough. They won't nerf it because they don't want to filter literally 95+% of current H40 puggers out of the difficulty. It would effectively kill the gamemode for anyone but friend groups
>>530381540>>530381697I've been ritualistically clearing my weekly H40s with relic blade zealot.
Untranny duelists tongue my anus.
>>530381785I wish arbiteses got shovels too
More so than the chain axes. The shovels have nice sounds, the chain axes give you tinitus and snap the camera so much that you get nauseous
>>530381897kek. If I'm taking the flamer, I still bring the toothpick. There's just not another option I want to pair flamer with. I hate the knife
>>530360276Always wondered, do most /vg/ citizens actually stick to the same game/general for months?
Top I've ever managed to keep playing and posting about are some mmos or hueg shit like Elder Scrolls. Can't keep the interest up with most games for long. Gameplay is rarely that engaging to make any game the "main" one. At most I episodically come back to play them every other month.
>>530382456I posted in /tesg/ for several years
>>530382456I take breaks, but I've been sticking around in here for several years or so. Whenever there's a new coop release or a game gets a big update, I come back
>>530382456Iโve been here for 9 months now. I post regularly and keep up in other generals daily too, not just here but on other boards, for years now. If I like something enough to seek out a place to talk about it I tend to plant roots in it.
>>530382456I post so long as i play
Darktide is the kind of game I play 1-2 games of most days, over a long period of time, just cause it's enjoyable. So I'm here posting about it when I feel like discussing
>>530382756yeah this
most stuff im fine with talking about it in period threads usually of my own making but if itโs something I particularly enjoy i kind of get attached to the place (provided it isnโt a complete cesspool of course)
>log in after a few days
>This hotfix just finished my last two arbi penaces
>still have 67/100 missions left on the last penance
The two terminus warrant challenges, literally 1500 for both the melee and ranged penance done for free.
What do I do to make this last grind less mind numbing? Arbi is easy mode class, but fuck me I was hoping those penaces would make me ignore the 100 mission grind.
>>530382456I will go to a general when I am playing it and when I get bored or drop the game or finish it or whatever, I move on to the next game and general if it has one.
Darktide like Vermintide are the kinds of games I'll probably be on the general for longer because while I don't play it as much as other games in a single session, it is the kind of game I like playing over long periods. So I'll play one to three or four games a day, then go do other things. I was last on here a few months ago. I'll probably be on here for another couple weeks then move on until the next big update.
>>530382456Most gens come and go as I play their specific games, but /copeg/ is a mainstay in my tabs because while it may SEEM like nothing more than the shopclick general, it's actually... well, yes, the shopclick general, but very very very occasionally the "other coop games" general, too.
also where else could i collect rat images with such regularity
give me your best vet build with plasma and the vraks autogun kindred
>>530385821>path to shredders>path to voc>path to weapons specialistThere
It's time.
I'm ready.
To never play snoretis trials ever again.
>>530342045Is this trve
I've been using the Exterm mk8 for its cleave/absurd range but as I work my way through damnation to unlock auric im gettting tired of having to double/triple click bigger dudes - does agripinaa fix this? maybe i should just drop a melee node for a ranged node....
>make amazing one tap shotgun
>make it fall off in your "advanced" difficulty, because the dudes are so tanky they just don't die to a single shell anymore
that's just bad game design, weapon satisfaction matters more than bloating HP bars to add "difficulty"
>>530388650It's a good thing then that you can remain in aurics and retain your "weapon satisfaction".
>>530389110don't you have a toothpick to be waving or something
>>530381732Thanks anon. Had some really great snoric games with that before bed.
>>530388650Yeah this arb shotgun is truly one of a kind when it comes to one shotting Heresy ragers and maulers
>>530391628You showed him! You also defended HP sponge enemies, but it was worth it to own that guy!
>>530391929Baffling reply. Are you the RNG retard perchance?
>>530392371Are you interested in Destiny perchance?
>>530386210I think I just got to 30
Mortis would be okay if it was two more maps and difficulty was consistently harder toward the end. There's some ridiculously easy 10-12s.
And I feel it should either be a little shorter or longer.
>>530393872It should be twice as fast. And it should have an actual tangible reward, not "lore dumps"
I think I can carry as Psyker now
Remember: you can use the arbites shield special whilst blocking
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>>530393872Literally haven't touched it outside of when they did the launch event that gave you a bunch of money. Useless mode
>>530361891US is just a bunch of 3rd world shitholes in a trenchcoat masquerading as a 1st world country
Just rename this general to 'tide general already
You CAN talk about non-tide games here but nobody clearly wants to and it's retarded to keep this charade up
>>530368990It's true, seeing that most whining and shitters are american.
>>530400487be the change you want in this world my little guy
>>530400487>waa waa waa waas>no one wants to yap about this game i likeNot my problem.
Make your own thread, faggot.
>>530400867I do talk about the games I like over at /vm/ and I'm in this general for Darktide but I'm just saying this "coop game general" has been exclusively talking about Vermintide and Darktide for years now with the only exception being when Helldivers 2 released and that only lasted for a short while until they broke off into their own general
It'd be beneficial for everyone to just direct all non-tide discussion over to /vm/ where there's already slow threads for most coop games and accept this general for what it is, a fatshart general
>>530400723No, I'd rather complain
>>530401441>and that only lasted for a short while until they broke off into their own generalThat wasn't of their own volition, I manipulated them into doing that by making both split threads and pretending to be people yelling at each other.
>>530350171mother of all tranny mods lmao
fucking shitter
I like Saltzpyre. I think he's funny, I think he's cool. Which Darktide class+personality is for me?
>>530402983Zealot agitator.
>>530402983Ze german psyker
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>>530402983You VILL pig out.
Were arbies a net positive addition to the game?
>>530350453Positively zealous
>>530403228Who knows, because at least now currently it's just fatshark continueing to enshittify the game by introducing more and more OP shit which makes the game boring and unfun.
>>530361891Vast majority of amerimutts are incredibly media-illiterate, generally stupid and politically polarized, meaning that they are incapable of enjoying 40k without forcing their cultural retardation onto it. They get angry and confused when the "good guys" are actually scummy and degenerate as fuck, or when they are supposed to enjoy a product aesthetics without having beautiful big-tittied women bouncing around in bikinis, telling the player how cool and badass they are.
>>530403228>near infinite toughness>immune to hounds>immune to gas>immune to being oneshotted>stunlocks ragers, crushers, bulwarks etc with easeliterally their only weakness is mediocre boss damage. i think they are busted
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>>530402285Un ptit kebab, chef?
>>530403228I am enjoying it, so it was a positive addition to the game.
>B-BUT THEY'RE HECKING OVERPO-Don't care. Zip it.
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>>530403867>retard thinks liking kebab is an insult
>>530404212nigga really hitting us with the discord react
>>530404312looks like that dude in the fujo gasha game, deep space or something
>Fanatic calling the archmagos dominus of adeptus mechanicus a heretic for allowing innovation
>bloody mess bug still not fixed
>voicelines proc only half the time
>dogbleed
>various visual and UI bugs
Spaghettification of Darktide reached it's terminal stage.
>>530404812Aaaaah, time to go on vacation
>>530404387The title is Love and Deepspace. It caters to yumejoshi.
New Arbitrator cosmetics when?
>>530404812You mean overproccing of voicelines, because I am getting peaceful talks in midst of massive hordes.
>recolor already
Already out of idea for arby...
>>530404871yeah those things for fujos. I kinda miss Archon but he blew a casket because people didn't like femstodes so he will not be missed.
>>530404916This too, I either get silence or my arby starts to talk and gets drowned by generic call outs.
>>530403228clearly
anyone who claims otherwise is coping
>oh nonooo this new class is overpowered the game is ruined now :(shut up. The game has always been ruined one way or another. They'll eventually make some tweaks, and then something else will be the big problem everyone complains about. Until the next problem comes around. That's the fatshark live service train ride.
>>530405259>>oh nonooo this new class is overpowered the game is ruined now :(This but unironically.
>shut up.No.
>>530405476well you can cry about it but fatshark is on vacation so they won't do shit
>>530405150wait they didn't fix that yet after 3 hotfixes?
why ARE swedes like this, like was there a big thing where they'd get a paid month off vacation or something
>>530405150>>530405601That'll be 19$ goyim ;)
It's not overpowered if you play Havocs. Go play Havocs if you want challenge, lol.
Also, the amerimutts, pajeets and other turd-worlders SEETHE at civilized white people having workers' rights. Pathetic.
>>530405753amerians always get so mind finding out other countries have protections for workers and their lives
This new bleed dog is not en half as op as the old rending flamer of the faithful, and that one took a while to patch out.
It def will get patched eventually but still, we've been through worse.
>>530406031they already patched it
>>530405150>LICENSE>TO>FIST
>>530406003it's not an american thing to realize that your entire workforce being useless for an entire third of the year is fucking retarded and also terrible for the people paying for their product
kill yourself swigger
>>530406593noooooooooooooooo
>>530406689Sorry Tyrone, but we care about our workers and their health. You can always play Helldivers in the meantime. :)
>>530404941It's gonna be a popular item paired with their penance red armor.
>>530403786>mediocre boss damageBleed Bite
Electric Bite
Bolter
No gun talents needed
>>530406952It's still incredibly lazy.
Honestly the trench coat should've just been a penance cosmetic or a commissary item, it's that low effort.
>>530403228I am enjoying them so I don't really care if they're overpowered or not.
They are fun.
the labour counter revolution will start in coopg
What is the deal with bosses shields in this game? Are they immune to damage modifiers and stuff? Is there any way to get past them besides having to wittle them down with like 20 basic melee attacks
Don't forget to vote for Labour of Love this year
>>530403228Yes, because they're fun.
People starting to true solo havoc 40 because of how busted the dog is. And with the new bleed buffs even shitters can trivialize the game and turn everything off because the dog literally just kills everything. So if you actually want to play the game you have to play duos or get a full stack where people don't use 1 button screen clears. Amazing.
Going back to VT2 until they come back from summer vacation and fix the balance. So probably in a year or year and a half.
>>530408474damn that sounds totally busted and unfun and a free ride to havoc 40 can you share the build so i can make sure i DONT use it
I got True Survivor today bros!
yay
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even without retaliatory force, attacks become comically fast with the other 4
imagine if arbites had DS4 crutch lol
>>530408474So you are saying this is the best time to get the prestige unlock and titles? I'll get it all done with dogman and then pretend that it's all on veteran itt to get everyone sussy and mad.
>>530408773Arbites doesn't need the Duelling Sword because he's straight
The female only has eyes for her dog
How well does mk5 ripper do in havoc 40? What perks and blessings?
Was thinking of taking it for boss damage and specials mostly since I can deal with hordes with using the shield.
What is
>the least used voice?
>voice that sounds the best with rebreather effect?
>voice that makes you cringe?
>>530409251>the least used voice?>voice that makes you cringe?N-word psyker
>>530409251>the least used voice?the posh old lady zealot. it's pretty good
>voice that sounds the best with rebreather effect?the tryhard dredd voices for zealot and arbites
>voice that makes you cringe?beloved psyker
>>530409251>>the least used voice?that one cadia lady for vet
>>voice that sounds the best with rebreather effect?no idea but demon voice loner psyker slaps
>>voice that makes you cringe?non anymore, got used to all voices
>>530408686>razor jaw crutch is bugged to win the game for you without any player inputYou got it at the worst possible time and it doesn't count as a result
>>5304095432 bedtimes around 10am (first world country time)
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What's the most embarassing arbites name you've seen so far?
>>530410041Dredd.
>LE GET IT??? XDDDD
>>530410041you mean "arbitrator"?
>>530410041Every variation of Dredd. These people almost always can barely play, bought premium arbitus just create that char and RP the fantasy. If somehow they turn out to be a competent seasoned player, they'll behave incredibly recklessly and selfishly. I had two Dredds afk on a medpack holding shield in the arena two times already.
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>joins your maelstrom
>>530410041dredds are wholesome and cute
>>530409056It doesn't really fill a relevant niche. More often than not, you need your gun to kill entire walls of gunners, so heavy stunner wins. You should never need your gun to kill bosses, when melee bleed does all the work anyway. The blobs of enemies that are actually difficult to get rid of, ripper can't really deal with either.
If it's not stubber, just break the game with rumbler instead.
>>530339430What is bugged about it?
>>530410762Okay, I do already use the rumbler so back to that then I go.
Just thought of rippers because I mostly use those in aurics and they work pretty well for boss damage.
>>530410602>>530409056it does badly
doesn't hit good breakpoints
not ammo efficient
>>530410950It used to be bugged in that it didn't apply damage talents.
They fixed the bug to work as intended now.
But it already did relevant damage before the bug fix, and is now around five times as powerful as intended. The bug is that they didn't foresee how much damage it deal because fagshart is fucking retarded.
It can solo the entire game for you.
>>530410950Nothing, it's working as intended.
The "bug" is just that the bleed does a fuck load of damage if you pick all the dog damage nodes from the skilltree, said talents which didn't actually apply to the dog's bleed originally because the talent/s were actually bugged and didn't work correctly.
Somehow they completely missed this shit in playtesting, not sure how.
>>530410403Unironically based take. Speedniggers deserve to get the rope.
>>530345163It's +2 wounds passive, there's no +5 passive in mortis
So the other 3 have to be curios
>>530410950it applies the 8 bleed stack twice so it's 16 instead of 8
and the bleed damage scales bigly
>>530410950It has 3 different hitboxes. On jump, when flying through the air, and on handing.
The same unit can be hit by all 3, and the target unit is guaranteed to be hit by at least 2. Meaning it can apply up to 3 times as many stacks as intended.
How do I use Scrier's Gaze? Is it basically an ability that enhances my damage from guns like an autogun for example?
>>530411175>slowly crawls around a fully cleared map and spends five minutes looting every last 20 plasteel in every corner while you're sitting afk in the airlockAnon if I can go take a piss, come back, and my retard still hasn't caught up, that's a votekick
Certainly is a new influx of shitters in auric these days.
>>530411279yes and lets you spam magic at 100%
>>530411301I want plasteel, get fucked.
>>530411352Do I need to quell peril quickly when it reaches 100%? And by magic, do you mean shit like the head bursting or electricity?
>>530411575>Do I need to quell peril quickly when it reaches 100%?Reading the ability explains what the ability does
>>530411068>>530411104I thought the bug was that it applied bleed to enemies around the pounced target but not the pounce target itself, so it couldn't dab on bosses
But now it can
I also have no idea about damage but it kinda feels higher after the patch, yeah
I don't see how it's a bug though, arbites tree is just designed to be insanely overpowered, what the fuck did they think would happen?
>>530411329Hello, how are your?
I'm fine, thanks you!
>>530411671>what the fuck did they think would happen?Well they clearly didn't think it through, and neither did the playtesters. How much do you want to bet that all the havocsissies played nothing but lone wolf the entire time and never even touched the dog, while all the hypercasual malicelet playtesters were too low IQ to even consider testing whether the bleed even worked.
Hence why razor jaw was shipped in a hilariously broken state on release, requiring two hotfixes to work anywhere close to how it's mechanically intended, only to end up being egregiously broken in practice.
I have no idea what you guys are yapping about, I play lone wolf because I just hate dogs
>>530408614>>530408887Just get bleed on pounce and shit like the EO keystone. Any damage buff to the dog also applies to the bleed. Allowing you get up to 5x the bleed damage.
The dog can solo entire armor waves at h40 if you direct it to pounce a few times. Or you can just run away and let it kill things on its own.
It's fun for exactly one minute and shit just becomes boring.
>>530411671See
>>530411227. The bug is that it does way too much damage. The reason for this is that it is instantly putting targets to 16 bleed.
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>>530412078that's a Chaos bait
>>530412136yeah but it would still put them to 16 bleed if they fixed it, just not in one jump, so it would just make the dog bad at dealing with chaff but still eat through bosses
>>530334689im NOT letting that sink in!!!
>>530095143Beat havoc 40!
Here's what happened
>Still a filthy r30 arbitrator>Playing at 3 am >This makes it easier to get accepted in higher games due to fewer players and games>Manage to join h40>I do poorly the first game, I do even worse the second, apologize and leave>Beyond tilted and angry for being so bad, I change to psyker and make a melee build, determined to play that shit until I get good (no DS4)>Out of nowhere get a random invite while playing maelstrom (they must have been really desperate for a psyker)>It's havoc 40 again>We beat it on the third tryThis time I even played well, but I must say backliners are easier, even more when you have a team instead of randoms scattered.
It was nice but it doesn't make me suddenly a good player, so back to melee psyker.
>>530412136>>530412385How do DoT stacks and damage increases even work in Darktide?
Let's say for example:
>dog applies 8 stacks of bleed, but with +200% damage dog talents>player then shoots a puncture bolter twice, applying +8 stacks of bleed for a total of 16 stacks, but the player somehow has 0% damage increasesHow much damage does the resulting bleed deal? Whose damage bonuses take priority? The highest? The latest applied?
>razor jaw is somehow nerfed to apply a max of 8 bleed stacks>I apply 16 bleed stacks with my bolter, then the dog jumps the target with +200% damageThe target should realistically not be able to take any more bleed stacks, but would the +200% override anyway?
I have no fucking clue because these kinds of interactions barely ever come up.
>>530412605search for "kuli darktide steam guide" he's the guy that always reads the code and gives accurate explanations of skills, interactions etc.
It's generally a wise decision to always check his guide first whenever a new class, blessing or interaction drops, because he will tell you if it even works or not.
>>530411218>>530411227is this supposed to only work in multiplayer or do you just parrot random hypothesis?
>>530336545JKESUS FUCKING CHRIST I AM PIGGING THE FUCK OUT FOR THE FIRST PSYGGER SET TO EVER NOT LOOT LIKE COMPLETE DOGSHIT
>>530411831It's like a river of people who started the game with beetus and can't handle other classes.
>>530412605I don't think damage modifiers apply to debuffs. Only strength and rending should. The damage of attack that inflicted bleed should not matter, at least that's how it works with soulblaze.
>>530412821He's retarded. The dog doesn't apply the stacks twice. Here is how it actually works:
The dog applies the 8 stacks of bleed once on leap start. Also when flying through the air and another time when landing. This has been added with the previous hotfix.
The current hotfix makes it so that all dog damage talents also apply to bleed, leading to 5x bleed damage if you take every talent related to it. But just taking EO alone gives it a massive damage boost.
Just check this niggas h40 solo with bleed dog
https://youtu.be/DyP24hTV7DM?si=JVoCPHbN9sgLaqzp
Roughly around the half way point you can see the dog take care of most of the mixed armor hordes simply by pouncing shit randomly. Guy is just focusing on specials and the boss, and even those die to the bleed most of the time.
>>530412882based money haver
>>530404312I donโt think thatโs what heโs saying, heโs calling you nonwhite or something apparently
>>530404952True fuck that fag
>>530413061What the hell is that cosmetic? How does he even eat?
>>530412605DoTs are generally "owned" by whatever put the first stack on them, basically, IE in your first example the dog bonuses apply to all 16 stacks. In your second example, your own buffs apply to the 16 stacks (you are correct, the dog nor anyone else can put stacks over the cap for bleed at 16)
>>530413116Liquid Corpse Starch, son.
>>530413125>the dog bonuses apply to all 16 stacks. Doesn't this mean there is literally no way in hell for fatshark to fix razor jaw without reverting it back to its original, unboostable state? Even if they reduce the stack count, or cap it, if the +150% or whatever continue to apply as long as the dog has applied at least a single stack, puncture blessing then just instantly deletes the boss in 3 follow-up shots.
>>530413061>put that servitor lightbulb in your mouth, I dare you
>>530413053Actually yes, I was able to confirm this with break the line modifier. It does increase dog bleed damage, which is kinda weird.
>>530413431It's broken to the point that people are pulling 1mil bleed damage through the dog alone. There are some scoreboard fixes floating around that track the dog bleed. See for yourself.
Patch 13 and the class overhaul kickstarted the powercreep. Ogryn rework put into overdrive and arbites is just warframe mode.
>>530413050Looks like I was wrong, I can see damage modifiers affecting the bleed from bolter too
Now I have no idea how stacks from different sources would interact
can't wait for the next DLC classes and the original reject ones getting sidelined HARD, know your place TRASH
>>530412605I tried it in psykhanium and it doesn't seem that adding stacks with bolter make damage go lower. On the contrary, shooting something with bolter first and then prolonging bleed with dog results in lower damage.
>>530330812 (OP)Why are Euros so awful at this Game?
I was trying for No Death Weekly. But every time I play with Euros, they suck at dodging positioning and constantly get themselves down by the poxbusters. I seldomly go down, and I was playing Psyker. They also tended to keep wasting ammo killing the specials instead of getting into an elevator. I changed the server to Hong Kong, and Chinese are much better players. The only complaint I have for them is that they tend to have tunnel vision and ignore downed players.
>>530414056yurop is a nanny state shithole where the state coddles and takes care of you, leading to weak and retarded people
china is a brutal shithole where helping others is frowned upon as competition is so unforgiving that you cannot afford to stop to help others
hence why yuros = helpless, hapless retards and chinks = uncooperative but efficient robots
>>530330812 (OP) (OP)
Why are Americans so awful at this Game?
I was trying for No Death Weekly. But every time I play with Americans, they suck at dodging positioning and constantly get themselves down by the poxbusters. I seldomly go down, and I was playing Psyker. They also tended to keep wasting ammo killing the specials instead of getting into an elevator. I changed the server to Hong Kong, and Chinese are much better players. The only complaint I have for them is that they tend to have tunnel vision and ignore downed players.
i don't have work this week so i went and picked up a half-dozen croissants for the family this morning but i forgot that the little guys had summer league practice this morning at the asscrack of dawn until noon. y'all want a croissant? i got blackberry, apricot, and raspberry jam
>>530413053>the dog functionally applies 16 stacks of bleed every timeDoes the long-range "start" apply to all of the enemies that get knocked out of the way too? If everything that gets touched by the doggo missile is getting bled out that wazoo that explains why cop damage overall is so high. I think people are getting unnecessarily upset about this, personally. There's a million ways to artificially challenge yourself in the interim while the entire embiggened hammerhead offices are empty until halfway through August. Supposedly there's going to be another big update, and I hope it's the Zealot talent tree rework
It takes 28 seconds to kill a beast of nurgle with dog + spamming chainsword bleed stacks vs 25 seconds with bolter, not activating any abilities
I don't think it's that busted
>>530412127didn't this get hotfixed today
>it's another teammate keeps criticizing the team while going down every 6 minutes on their little solo adventures
>in h37
god I wanna punch some people through the fucking screen so bad
>>530414502The most recent hotfix created this issue. Unless they dropped a new new one (#72) today.
>>530414219Chinks aren't robots, they're bugmen with a sociopathic culture that pushes gaining personal advantages no matter the cost. Unless your name is GLORY TO GOD EMPEROR XI, they won't care about you, because you're not part of the hivemind. Chinkoids will cheat every which way imaginable, so there is a non-zero chance that those players are using any number of cheats to play the game for them, like wall hacks and aimbots (both of which exist, and were once uploaded to mod sites by, you guessed it, Chinese authors).
>>530414486Did you toggle invisibility off for a brief moment, and allow execution order to apply to the boss before doing the dog thing?
>>530414219euros are the best at comp shooters though
>>530412127the real question is, does rending from tree affect the dog bleed
>>530414695no I didn't, I said no active abilities
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>some youtube dipshit releases a weapon tier list>talks about OP guns>talks about the only balancing option being buffing enemy spawns and rest of the weaponsWhy are these gooning-fried retards so allergic to the concept of nerfing? It's so fucking subhuman.
>>530414219>>530414056Europeans actually appreciate quality and standards. It is the burgermutts, russoids, chinksects and other subhuman mongrels that expect to get pampered. The later ones generally just cheat to feel powerful anyways, but burgerites demand service-providers to give them their power fantasies on a platter without a hint of a challenge.
>>530414737yes but it's not a big difference
>>530414780Now try it with execution order, because supposedly the dog bleed benefits from it.
>>530414737>the real question is, does rending from tree affect the dog bleedIt doesn't matter nigga the damage is high enough for it to delete any armor horde/patrol on h40. Just let it pounce twice from left to right and fuck off.
The powerscale is so off the charts that you don't need to theorycraft anymore. Just pick bleed and whatever and let the dog play the game for you.
>>530414832actually doesn't seem to work with melee rending, the other option is ranged rending, is there something else?
>>530414853surely we can make it even more busted, if only we had access to uncanny strike
>>530414056Lot of germans, french and italians aren't competitive in games. They generally log in to goof around with their friends. They don't care if they lose because they have life outside the game and switch often, feeling no dedication to singular products.
Russians are lumped in with the Europeans. They are culturally and genetically bound to be retarded and selfish.
Otherwise, Euros tend to be better than 'muricans, and that's a fact.
>>530415101>actually doesn't seem to work with melee rendingI assumed you meant the brittleness node.
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what are the current meta builds for recon laser rifle for veteran, can someone link them? I tried asking steam but basically this is the convo pic related. proof to me you are less gay than steam, i beg you
>>530413604Well if nothing else, I can confirm what everyone likely already knew: +% damage to breeds works on burn stacks. A single burn stack on a reaper deals 3 damage per tick, and with +25% unyielding deals 4.
4 bleed stacks deal 31 damage without any boosts, and 38 damage with +25% unyielding.
What makes this difficult to test in the psykhanium is that if you use hotkeys to change the perks/blessings of your weapon, you might have to change loadouts over and then back for it to update them.
If it's true that the FIRST STACK EVER APPLIED now becomes the owner for the full duration of the DoT, then a fully maxed dog pouncing an execution order marked boss would let you instantly delete it even with your bolt pistol.
Ok, so what's the meta for the bleed build?
I assume castigator stance because it gives your dog 75% damage and it's right on top of EO? And obviously get True Grit.
And yes, I WILL be joining your havocs. Time to get true survivor.
>>530415437https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds
select weapon you want
pick most recent and most updooted build
>>530415437Nice discussion Bumfight and Beavis
If they added a dedicated healer with weak offensive capability would any of you play it?
>>5304155171 minute and no gay shit
thank you man, i appreciate it, have a wonderful day
>>530415650no im straight
>>530415437>I tried asking steamretard, there is no single worse gaming forum
All of them build around crits and shock trooper. Every good recon las build puts infernus on the gun. If you prefer the blue one, you just do a generic veteran build. The green one has no cleave so it's often forgotten about, but don't underestimate it. The brown one is very compatible with deadshot. If you do go with deadshot, you need focus target (good) or marksman's focus (kinda bad) for stamina recovery, and at least 1 stamina curio.
>>530415437Recon is not really meta, but it works fine.
The key parts of the puzzle is:
>Talents: Shock trooper>Blessings: Headhunter and Infernusyou can add Opening Salvo talent for good measure. The rest is up to you.
>>530415650No, because it'd ruin the balance of the game even harder.
Health is currently the only resource in DT that you can't just fart out of nothing.
There's always a fixed amount of healing stims, medpacks and medstations in the game.
Making a class that just acts as a mobile medpack is a terrible fucking idea.
Even making it temporary health like in VT it'd still be absolutely broken.
>>530415513>ssume castigator stance because it gives your dog 75% damage and it's right on top of EO? And obviously get True Grit.>true gritshitter crutch
get poxbreather and ignore all gas related stuff & twins.
>>530415631im retarded
>>530415702>>530415886>no single worse gaming forumcorrect, i only just remembered you guys have a vg here, mb
i wasnt awre there were 2 versions of the gun. Can i still use dum dum? I already have infernus on it. Im not running the 25& crit chance when aiming, it just chews through my stamina. is this bad?
>>530415886>headhunterNo, retard, headhunter is dogshit. You put dumdum on it because it increases the burn damage from infernus.
>>530416020It is a crutch, but I will be the last one standing and save your retarded ass because you can't tank 6 crusher overheads.
>>530415650>I'm gonna supppoooooortFuck you and all you stand for nigger.
>>530416059alright, dum dum it is then
>>530416134love playing support classes
>>530416134so you prefer sweaters camping in a corner to increase their scoreboard score?
>>530416283>so you prefer sweatersOf course not, he's not a healbitch bottom.
>>530416362*lets you die*
>>530416024>it just chews through my stamina. is this bad?Go into your loadout, click the recon las, and at the top right click marks.
>blueFires fast as FUCK, and drains your stamina at equal rate if you take deadshot. Don't run it with deadshot.
>greenHas incredible ammo efficiency with deadshot, but doesn't cleave and drains your stamina reasonably quick. Consider the stamina refund on focus target or marksman's focus a necessity.
>brownChews through ammo reasonably quickly, but fires slow enough to where deadshot doesn't instantly drain your stamina. Still wants some form of stamina recovery, but is usable (if suboptimal) without. Feels worse with infernus, but it's still the best blessing for bosses.
I recommend you always run your lasgun with unyielding (bosses) and then either crit (if you need the ammo efficiency) or maniacs (includes all the important enemies that need to die right fucking now)
no matte the amount of crutches you use, deadshot is still a piece of shit talent
>>530416492And yet all the plasma vetsissies struggle to even reach havoc 40, while deadshot marksman's focus boltchads singlehandedly invalidate every ranged enemy and top the scoreboard without taking a single knee.
Also curious how I regularly carry as stealth vet with deadshot. Those talents are useless dogshit and effectively griefing, yes?
Kraks and smokes are pretty good, people just don't know how to use them correctly.
>>530408686Honestly I still dont have it and if I have to cheese bleed dog to do it I kind of want to just to never touch Havok again. Are people just using that one dogmaxxing build from a few days ago?
>>530416879Plenty of players have done true survivor legitimately without any cheese, with randos. I've had groups where a player has gotten it accidentally without planning for it. Havoc isn't as hard as people are making it out to be, all the whiners just suffer from enormous skill issues and struggle to even get past the h20-30 hurdle.
>Are people just using exploitsRight this moment yes, probably.
>>530416119Dis nigga can't dodge crushers. Let alone delete 6 in the current state of the game.
>>530416702>Also curious how I regularly carry as stealth vet with deadshot.so you let everyone else die and then press your epic crutch button to pick them of the floor where you left them?
>>530416423thanks for the breakdown, i will check my build and adjust accordingly
>>530417023I just initially wanted to do Havok 35 just so I could get all the drip associated with it, but I feel a bit lame sporting Auric Storm Survivor when theres a True Survivor around. But yeah I cant get people who arent pubbrained
I miss green circles. Playing VT2 reminded me how nice they are. When even turbocasual helldivers has stats, why the fuck doesnt darktide?
so you don't need to BE havoc 40 to get the true survivor title, you just need to complete a havoc 40 mission?
>>530415449>then a fully maxed dog pouncing an execution order marked boss would let you instantly delete it even with your bolt pistol.Buffs apply in real time, so when duration on buffs expires you need to refresh it
The source tracking seems to work that way, yes. But it also means that a random shooting a bolter can initiate bleed before your dog gets to the boss
>>530415513Break the line has a +50% modifier with 12s duration which is better than castigator stance uptime, it's up to your preference I suppose
I would go with break the line because I will probably use a weapon without brutal momentum and I want to be able to get out of dense hordes without cleave
>>530417657... without anyone going down.
>>530417054>so you [cope]No I play with lineups that don't need shout, then use stealth to do every objective for free, and get safe revives off.
I do think stealth has slightly less value than shout, but in a group that can handle itself without it already, stealth completely invalidates any and all objectives, which are often sweatier than getting through the map normally.
This applies all the way from aurics through havoc 40. Ever play Clandestium with randoms? The second section with the power cells you have to shove back into the machines is always a massive shitshow because nobody plays the objective. Stealth does it for free without even letting them time out. And that's just one example.
>>530416423okay crazy, i have the green one, after taking +3 stamina curio, stamina regen on all 3 and the 25% crit rate trait ive lost barely any ammo in the span of 5-8 minutes. Thanks for reccomending that to me man. On another note, i couldnt take any of the stamina regen nodes due to no skill points left, is there any other way i can counteract the stamina drain?
I have 2 points left and id rather not take marksman focus because im on a controller and cant aim headshots for shit
https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/9f577510-9976-4b4d-b44b-eea24ea2104c/testbuild-2
>>530418301>and get safe revives off.wouldn't have to revive if you shouted and kept them alive ;)
Clandestum is fine as long as people run to the bubble on obj.
Stealth is good for completing objectives and saving teammates in a dysfunctional team. But then I think you're treating the symptom, not the cause.
what's the meaning of this
>>530418334You need precision strikes and superiority complex on the left. Those are mandatory.
I personally don't go to the bottom right of the tree at all. Reciprocity and duck and dive ARE very good for deadshot + shock trooper builds, but I've had more success with focus target for target down! as stamina recovery and just tagging everything I see.
>>530418515>wouldn't have to revive if you shouted and kept them alive ;)That's also a hypothetical. A good chorus zealot + psykinetic aura can keep everyone in piss near permanently anyway, and there are situations where no amount of shouting can prevent going down. I've personally had more situations go bad because an objective took too long, and that includes all classes. For example when I'm playing chorus zealot, I'd prefer that a GOOD veteran that doesn't go down all the time run stealth instead of shout, because I can do the job shout would do all by myself. A good (support) zealot should play bodyguard for the squishies anyway.
>>530414815> It is the burgermutts, russoids, chinksects and other subhuman mongrels that expect to get pamperedRubbish, the Chinese are very competitive. In my experience, they're actually too competitive. My main issue with Chinese players is that their brains are constantly on speedrunning challenges to the point that I canโt even search for any diamantine because they jump to the next area within a minute.
>>53041883020,000 Russians who instakick you when you join versus because your name isn't cyrillic
>>530378436The subtitles of Morrow's dialogue about it has "tree" in quotation marks. It was never really a tree, I think.
>>530403228Yes? Objectively it was. Itโs more actual tangible content which the game was in desperate need of. Needs tuning and tweaking for sure but itโs a step in the right direction.
>>530409335>>530409524This.
>>530413061Iโll never understand how people run around with this
>>530414464None of that happened
Tried bleeding dog, haven't seen much of a difference
>>530413817ur so cute letโs make love :3
>>530419945i ate the blackberry jam, but there's still 3 left iuf you want one anon
>>530417626Because autists fixate on them too much and sperg out when they do get it.
>>530384210Do either rolling steel(the train mission) or the twins mission with the bell puzzle skip. You can finish either in less than 10 minutes, so you could be done in a couple of hours worth of game time.
>>530418852okay but how do you deal with armored targets if you dont take onslaught or did i misunderstood you? RIght now i only go right for the melee crit buff and onslaught.
>>530418852not that guy but do you ever run super crates?
haha remember firebreak? me neither
>>530420962I vaguely remember some teasers for it.
And that's all.
>>530410349bs
i tried naming myself that and the game refused
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>>530410041This one wasn't embarrassing but it did make me smile.
>>530421750You can't do it anymore because they put filters on but if you named yourself that day 1 before they were put up you get to keep your name pretty sure. I've seen like 3 GeorgeDroyds
>>530403786>mediocre boss damagebuild issue. You can get +50% bossdamage. I play as the designated boss killer in havoc
>>530403228Im trying to like them but they are way too strong outside of havoc and they are just boring to play/ annoying to play with
>>530403228>Erm... no because he is too OP!!!Ogryn was already retarded OP
Arbites is fun as fuck. Both bonk sticks are fun to use and both shotgun marks are actually extremely viable if not even a little OP with the right setup which is a welcome change from the dogshit combat shotguns we've always had. Break the line is also pretty fun to use. I like it more than FotF
>>530420962haha remember Overstrike? me neither
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vQfUMw5KJ0Q
>>530422886Damn that Chad Chin
>>530411665nothing in this game is explained anon. you only know what things mean because you have twelve thousand hours of tacit, eldritch swedish knowledge built up over a decade dont discount yourself
>>530422291what build are you rocking, something with a bolter I'm guessing?
veteran, opening salvo question/deadshot question.
Lets say my weapion has 174 shots in a mag, around 30+ shots would be buffed with 10% crit dzue to opening salvo. So lets say i fire 30+ shots but only consume 10 due to deadshot. will opening salvo still aply or does the game count the 30 or whatever shots and than its over despite me not consume 30 or whatever ammo in the mag?
>>530423504just bolter with unyielding and the +20% monstrosities damage node in the middle bottom and exec stance bottom left +30% monstrosities damage. It takes a bit to get the 30 stacks. I had a plogryn with 92k health spawn in, my zealot cornered it in its spawn room with relic and in a single magdump into its head I took off 90k or so of its health and killed it with the bleed after. Perfect setup but you get the point
>>530424193opening salvo still applies; it only cares about the mag ratio.
Haven't played in a few months, is dueling sword still a go to for Veteran or has it been nerfed? Also can you still make your grenade bleed with puncture on the bolt pistol?
>>530424595fucking crazy, sometimes i fire around 40-50 shots but only consume like 10 due to taking everything crit related. Thanks for the info
>>530422805I still have no idea how to build the duckbill shotgun
I keep using the long range one because its so much more reliable to me
>>530424850>dueling swordYes, if you are a tryhard bitch looser, with no honor. Don't play veteran. Buy and play Arbitus with Dog before it's nerfed into the ground in 4 months
>>530425101playing vet gets me invited to higher level havocs because everyone wants free ammo and nades
Kerillian Arbitrator actually makes me fucking wet holy shit I wanted to be arrested and beaten by her
>>530421971You can just use other alphabet script like cyrillic or gayreek to bypass filters
>>530425335I wish someone castrated you so I dont have to read this disgusting worm shit
>>530425101Iโm glad someone saw the potential for this edit
>>530425648>worm shitwriggling and writhing my way into your walls through the ground and the earth
>>530402170good. based anon.
I've noticed that the same people who overuse the word "media literacy" are also the ones who tell you that you shouldn't like the imperium because they're fascist
>>530427102>search "media literacy" ITT>one resultand what are (you) trying to tell me anon?
>>530427102Sure they are fascist
It's just that the only alternative is oblivion.
>>530418830What the FUCK I thought darktide was doing very well for a coop game.
>>530427749Not only did I never say I was talking about this very thread, there is in fact someone talking about it in here but you're shit at searching a page so you missed it
>>530428541it's over bro... let it go....
>can't get an invite to higher ranked havocs
>can't complete my current havoc because instadowned shitters are the only people who seem to join my games
I'm alright! Give me a chance! I played a havoc 40 once and wasn't the worst teammate!
>>530421445wait why is sonichu not the pet
>>530428858what class are you queuing with?
I don't feel so good bros
Just saw an arbeetus die from a crusher's overhead
>>530428608>talking aboutYou only said the phrase itself was being overused, you even used quotations anon
>>530428858>he still can't host his own havocsKek
>>530430905I took true grit off to test stuff, forgot to put it back on, and got immediately raped by a crusher I decided to facetank for fun before a med station
was embarrassing
>>530430905Guess he didn't take True Grit.
>smelter complex start
>team taking the way up instead of the safe way under, they all get killed in seconds
>leave
>>530431129And it can be found in this thread. Again, you're just dogshit at searching a page. Try to use your brain a little
>>530431359it can't. I used YOUR quotations no need to lash out like this.
Dukane's hairy, sweaty Dukussy
>>530431659>h-he didn't use the term you cited because he put a - in the middle... gotcha! do you have nothing better to do
>>530428421>It's just that the only alternative is oblivion.It's already been shown numerous times in 40k that is not the case.
Emperor and Imperium deliberately went around destroying human societies during the Great Crusade who were just fine and even had good relations with xenos.
Imperium is evil, that has always been the intent of the creators.
>>530431917Remove the hyphen it's still the first use of the phrase retard. I'm not forcing you to reply to me.
>>530431937That was 10,000 years ago, and the current Imperium barely resembles whatever society the Emperor had planned.
The Imperium is in a constant state of collapse, barely held together with crumbling Imperial institutions like the Ecclesiarchy.
How does clearance level work? Is it literally just the highest havoc you've completed, can't go back down?
what if they gave true grit to veterans and psykers
>>530432265>h-he said media illiteracy not media literacy...!are you done pedant
I read the eisenhorn trilogy, what should I read now
>>530432732When you learn how quotations work I will be done, pedro.
>>530431937Yeah, big part of "grimdark future" are the consequences of Emperor mistakes with humanity.
Do I really need 30% + 20% monstrosity damage when I have 150% dog damage on keystone and 50% dog damage on ability? Sounds redundant and points would be better spent on block talents and melee damage
>>530430684Get out there and kill shit, varlet.
>>530432947>every quote has to be verbatimare you done, pedant? we both know you just failed to ctrl+f it properly then tried an epic gotcha and now youre desperately grasping got straws
>>530432340>That was 10,000 years agoAnd the Imperium still practises the same fucking things.
And it still won't and doesn't erase the fact that the Emperor and the Imperium DELIBERATELY went around genociding entire planets worth of humans who didn't comply and didn't want to join with this some weirdo empire being lead by a tyrannical God King whose choice for any planet was "complete utter subservience or brutally mauled into subservience or exterminatus".
This is what the Emperor did when was alive and control of the Imperium.
Even if you were a peaceful human empire who had peaceful relationship with xenos, that was not ok and you would be erased. Diasporax is a good example of this.
Imperium is evil, never forget that.
This was always the intent of the original creators. There are NO good guys in 40k, every single faction are, yes even the Imperium, are evil pieces of shit who only exist to serve their own agenda and if you do not comply with them, they will genocide you.
That was always the point. It's a fucking wargame that is literally meant to be a miniature war game about you playing as the super nazis who want to genocide every planet even human ones, against your friend who is playing with actual rape demons who want to rape and kill everything in the universe.
Anybody that is looking for some deeper "philosophy" or "who is right or who is wrong or who is justified in this game" are completely deluded fucking morons who don't understand what the setting and the game is about.
>>530433000This guy is better at getting the point is was trying to make across than I am.
Do humans have "smart" missiles, with guidance systems and everything? Is there a human-computer inside such missile?
>>530433291>verbatim>two seperate topics>got strawsI will be done when you learn how quotations work, pedro.
Why can't we reroll maps and modifiers on our havoc keys at the expense of an attempt?
>>530432870Ciaphas Cain books
>>530433475are you really still not done with your pedantic spergout because you didnt know media illiteracy and media literacy refer to the exact same concept lmao
>>530433392>Do humans have "smart" missiles, with guidance systems and everything?ICBMs in the form of Death Strike Missiles exist, and yes they are thermonuclear weapons.
>Is there a human-computer inside such missile?Knowing the Imperium and Mechanicus? Yes.
>>530433565are you really still not done with your ESL spergout because you didn't know how to quote things properly?
>>530433392Dude there are exploding servitor barrels. You bet they exist.
>>530433302Eldar and the Imperium are just trying to stay alive.
Orks are genetically programmed towards war and violence, traditional concepts of morality don't apply.
Necrons want to wipe out all life and restore their Empire/get their bodies back
Tyranids are hungry animals
T'au are too young and naive to appreciate the situation they are in, but are slowly being exposed to the full horrors of the Galaxy.
Chaos are the literal hell dimension, field by human rage, ambition, despair, and lust.
There are some ethical diffences here
>>530434103I'd say in a pure moral sense the Dark Eldar are the worst, theybdont seem to have any specific reason to be dicks.
Sure Slannesh wants to fuck their souls to death but I don't think that means they have to go around raping everybody.
>>530434687They're just Trad Eldar. That's how Slaanesh came to be after all.
I'm really tired of fucking tourists in auric.
>>530435057You'd think they'd learn.
>>530435180just carry the game bro
>>530435180You are one of the good ones, don't log in to Mourningstar in the next 10 minutes
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FUCK YOU FATCUNT
2 crashes in a fucking row
>>530433697>quotes need to be verbatimstfu esl pedant
>>530435180Been my general feeling today too. At least I'm done with all Beetus penances so I can take a break.
>>530432870>trilogyAnon... it's an decalogy. You still need to read Magos, Ravenor, Ravenor Returned, Ravenor Rogue, Pariah, Penitent, and Pandaemonium, whenever it releases.
>>530331512found the jeet
go do the needful, faggot
>Just carry the game
I see this a lot and what this generally means is having to solo 2 or sometimes 3 bosses at a time because your shitter teammates go down immediately. Unless your build is specifically to deal with them that's just not a realistic ask.
>>530437829You can't solo clutch much in H31-40 unless you have a specialized loadout for it that is otherwise lacking and won't get you invited anywhere
It's why I hate the new Havoc design. Yes, it's harder, but losses are literally out of my hands now if my team sucks. I hate the party finder minigame of scrutinizing random faggots who all do their utmost to appear competent but then turn out to be absolute sacks of concrete.
>>530431937>that is not the case.Of course it is. What?
>Great Crusade Is a far cry from what the 40k galaxy looks like now. You realize that numerous DAOT era also had โgood relations with Xenosโ and were also betrayed the second they lost their footing as the apex power right? Thatโs exactly why the Emperor came down so hard on them. The Great Crusade was necessary because the galaxy is filled to the brim with hostile and treacherous alien races. Hell, this is even acknowledged in universe, where we have a quote literally stating that if the DAOT era humans hadnโt taken such a lenient approach to alien races, the human race could have been in a far better position than it currently is now.
>>530433000Not really. Sure he made some screwups but they had little to do with this topic in question. The biggest was his mishandling of Chaos but thereโs lot of stuff that isnโt set in stone about that either.
>>530433302Yeah the Emperor was an ass but heโs still unquestionably the lesser evil over pretty much every other option there is. He is a conqueror at the end of the day, even if the ultimate goal was the unification of humanity, thatโs not just going to make him become some kind of pacifist handing out invitations to his Sunday sermon.
>that was not ok and you would be erased.Not true. A good portion of this depended on which Primarch and which legion encountered you first. Some were more lenient and gave you the option to cease such relations, others were more strict and did in fact do what you say.
The Imperium sucks, but it sucks in such a way that itโs still the best option around, and thatโs why people are enamored with the dichotomy it represents.
>>530433302the imperium takes a number of cues from commies too, it always reeks of reddit when someone calls them nazis like emps didnโt go on his equivalent of ussr religious suppression campaign
>>530431937>It's already been shown numerous times in 40k that is not the case.it has never not been the case
>>530439295>Sure he made some screwups but they had little to do with this topic in question.Are you implying that "Horus Heresy" was 100% caused by chaos and not the Emperor? Really?
>>530433514>>530437054Thanks, gonna start ciaphas cain, I didn't like dan abnett's writing that much.
Daily reminder the "golden thorne" was a device to put Magnus there until Emperor figure out how to use warp travel without need super human batteries.
Where do you go to find havoc teammates that aren't drooling fucking retards? I've straight up just stopped accepting arbites into my runs after getting burned so many times.
>>530436207>yes i am and also no uno u + ur mad times infinity
>>530440423No, Iโm saying the Emperorโs harsh treatment of humans and aliens play little role in the state of things today. He definitely made screwups with Chaos, namely going for the whole rationalism angle, but we know he had personal reasons for that at least.
>>530441643I'm right here, but I don't play havoc, srry
>>530439295>blah blah aliens bad>yes it was said once>never says where it was said>What was InterexYour typical imperiumfag ladies and gentlemen.
this is my arby build bros, Im looking for criticisms if im doing something wrong here. is suppression protocols necessary? im wondering if I should remove razor jaw for it but the razor jaw imo is so good to have.
>>530418830could have something to do with the fact one is inundated with third worlders, has mod support, and been around for over a decade probably
>>530443195Yeah, I bet he doesn't know that golden thorne wasn't 100% made by the Emperor and have xenos technology to the point that main core have eldar components.
>>530432870Read muh dick!!!!
>>530433040Based. Poobros not gonna like this oneโฆโฆ.
>>530444735That broad is barely in the book.
He buys her when he first arrives in Bombay and has to sell her when he gets transferred to Afghanistan.
>>530443370you took toughness from dog within 8m when you could've had toughness from stam spending, which is way more consistent
you've got 25% rending when you arguably need 0%
>>530330812 (OP)It's so hard to go back to Zealot or Vet after maxing out Arbitrator
Everything just works. You don't have the highest damage but the crowd control is so nonsensically high and your impact -> stagger -> rending pipeline so easy that you can take control of any situation as long as you don't get webbed
>>530433392>Is there a human-computer inside such missile?Say no more
>>530435180Auric randoms are leagues better than damnation randoms
>>530445724Over half my games today have been at least 2 people 100m behind the rest wondering why they get slogged down and constant horde spawns.
>test razor jaw in psykhanium
>"hey wait a minute even with all my buffs it's only doing the 250 something damage max bleed stacks norma-"
>use creature spawner to turn off invisibility for a split second so execution order can mark targets
>mfw
EIGHT HUNDRED DAMAGE BLEED TICKS
Should i take Unleashed Brutality or just not bother with it?
I still have to manually tell the dog to jump on elites instead of trash, anyways
>>530444989That sucks. Does he get more?
>>530445518you learned to love the crutch, free yourself from it, unshackle thy mind, let your skill fly
I have come to the conclusion that the arby maul is a little too strong
>>530445081so should I remove all rending? what should I replace it with, the monstrosity keystone?
>>530449396I can finally become Warhammer Pipboy
is streaming on twich the only way to not get 4 bosses to drop on me in havoc?
3 captains + 2 monstrosities at the same time happens every single game if server doesn't crash
>>530336545>introduce the best cosmetics since release with arbites update>next rotation is grab bag from the city dump eugh
>>530450047nta but preferably youd get Soulguilt scan too
Cleave is bad and Target the Weak is not as good as you might think initially, Rending is generally not needed if you're using the Shield and Arby maul and the Single Arby Maul has no real need for it unless you want to go for the 2shot blockcancel meme for some reason
Force of Will also only works per melee attack, not per staggered enemy
>be civilized and make warhammer tv account to watch shit
>service isn't available in your mongolia land, bitch
>no button to delete account
Well played GW, never should have doubted your Jewish imperial capitalist ways. My ancestors should have drowned EU in blood and took a plug out of your shitty sad island. I'll honor the tradition and pillage the internet for your stuff yet again.
>>530450047>>530451051Forgot to say that i'm running Break the Line so Malocator is not really useful for me, you should definitely take it for Cast Stance
>>530440490what do you mean? all of darktide is abnetts writing!!@
>>530451051>Target the Weak is not as good as you might think initiallyNot him, but arbies stagger everything?
15% more damage is good?
>>530451051>Target the Weak is not as good as you might think initiallyIt's a 15% damage modifier for all incoming melee damage to that enemy, multiplicatively. It's the best 15% modifier arbys has.
>>530452152More of the fact you kill everything in 1-2 hits without it using the beetus maul so it doesn't have tremendous value, let alone bleedmaxxing doggo.
>>530451337no itโs not most of it is wards
>>530453086yes thats the joke
>Aurics arent fun
>Havoc is the opposite of fun
Bravo fatshark
guess im taking a longass break from the game? dont really care for penance farming
>>530453457do you only play a single video game at a time? the fuck?
>>530453623Not relevant to what i said at all but alright
yeah great its another i have to take care of 2-3 spawns while the arbinigger and ogryngolems focus one lane with 10 zombies. What a fucking game perfectly balanced if the ai decides to fuck you in the asshole and send 2 netters 1 bomber and one flamer after your ass just for mere existing. fuck this game
>>530446063Rushing is for gays, especially in quickplay.
Get the fucking diamantine
>>530457327Yeah I'll just put it in the pile of over 100k diamantine.
>>530453152i donโt see how
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