Thread 531566332

Deserved break edition

Previous beach getaway: >>531533771

Spoilers ahead, proceed at your own Frisk.

-DELTARUNE CHAPTER 1-4
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My they/themsband

PRAISE BE THE BREAD

she looks like she fucks human men

Asgore owns a CRT TV. Will we recruit it? Will it become Tenna's wife? Will it have tits?

Imagine the foursomes.

Do you think Asgore will get a happy ending?

>>531566597
That’s a man

>>531566616
I think he'll either die or have to move on with his life.

>>531566597
It'll be tenna again but always 50% scale and with none of the family trauma

>>531566597
It will have a friend inside it.

>your fave
>your amount of images saved of them

>>531566783
Old VHS tapes of the canceled cowboy puppet show. I can't think of a tobyshoft copywriter free knockoff of Woodie's Round up

>>531566613
Why does young Asgore have no ears

Would you crush Spamton’s diaphragm for $100?

>>531566963
Maybe the cowboy will be named Andy.

>>531566947
Ralsei
2,110
2,111 after that image you just posted

Deltarune will be banned from Steam due to Visa and Mastercard demands before the full release

>>531566597
Asgore's living conditions are already precarious, I don't want to steal from him

>>531567134
If you're good at something never do it for free

>>531567272
Sounds like schizobabble

>>531567272
Frankly its bullshit that payment processors can decide what you can and cannot buy. Should legitimately be illegal for them to do.

>>531566597
>that one camera guy in the greenroom saying how not everyone liked how tenna ran things and that they up and left in the ages of black and white
He's going to hate Tenna, that's for sure.

WELCOME TO THE UNDERGROUND

>>531567495
I think he's going to be like Tenna's dad that loves him but is disappointed in his lifestyle

>>531566947
>Kris
>Around 90 I think

>>531566947
Ralsei
around 272 in my Ralsei folder
There's more in other places but I'm very unorganized

>>531567628
>have the option of giving hapstablook Asgore's TV if you didn't already give him Tenna
>it had one of Alphys' magical girl anime tapes inside, inspiring him in the same way Tenna's music video did

>>531568020
I think mettaton already likes anime if he drew the NEO body

That said, catboy Mettaton is on my bingo card.

>in Japanese, your Recruits are called Friends
AIIIIIIEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE TOBY WHAT DO YOU MEAN?!

>>531568201
maybe this is just a made up detail in my head or i read some fanfic/theory and it's lingered in my head as dubious canon
but i swear i remember something like mettaton prefers cartoons and that's why he has the 3 finger + thumb hand with the white gloves like bugs and mickey have

>>531568224
big tasque ass.....

Wait what the fuck, I didn't know you could lose to Gerson and still get his stuff + crystal. He really is based

>>531568681
>turns into Dark Matter
Neat

A small thing I'm convinced about Deltarune is that Toby isn't really gonna let Asriel go scott-free over being Flowey in Undertale. When every single character in the game talks about how great Asriel is, I raise an eyebrow. There is gonna be a catch.

>>531568960
He molested Kris, thats what everything is pointing towards.

>>531569036
*Diaps Guy

Making out with Asgore during a Throwback Thursday drive-in showing of North by Northwest, at a large-scale retail hardware store chain and asking an employee where they keep the wall-mounted hose wheels for Asgore since he was too shy to ask himself or admit he couldn't find them, just stepping out of work when I get an extremely provocative text from Asgore including an image attachment and having to squeeze the steering wheel so hard I could crush coal into diamonds to avoid going over the speed limit on the way home

>>531567795
>[Hochi Mama]!

Kris acting all smug and nonchalant until you lift up their stupid little bangs

Kris is genuinely much sexier than Frisk, the shadow over the eyes turns me on in a way that the closed eyes did not

>>531569197
>>531569241
Ok Dess, we get it.

>>531569241
Frisk also looks like a three year old

>>531566760
>and with none of the family trauma
Instead it will be traumatized from having to see Asgore jerking it.

>>531569321
To put it in terms Berdly would understand, Frisk is kind of like Mary, but Kris is more like Elegg.

>>531569368
darkners live to serve lightners, if anything this means the tv will be an old man porn star.

>>531566947
>tenna
>4927

>>531568960
>* "Dear Catty, thank you for the honor of this junior dance."
>* "Your eyes are like whirlpools of molten cat food..."
>* "... the expensive kind you have to buy at the pet store."
>* Signed... Asriel!?
If there is a catch it's real well hidden

>>531568960
i think he isn't a part of the hometown simulation and he's literally not a real person

>Ralsei goes out of his way to encourage you to be kind to Lightners
>His Castle Town is all about making sure the Darkners can live comfortable and happy lives

>Ralsei also says that ordinary objects "shouldnt have feelings" and that they dont exist so their lives and feelings dont matter
Is Ralsei retarded?

>>531569434
How are there even that many images of him already

>>531569416
>it's actually traumatized because it got annoyed with how bad Asgore was at jerking off
>"It was like watching a pillbug scratch it's own back.

>>531566947
>>531569434
i'll also mention that the mike trio/pippins/shadowguys/zappers are on the same fave level as tenna for me and that folder is currently sitting at 1272, there just isn't as much fanart for them compared to tenna sadly
>>531569612
what can i say, he's popular

>>531568394
there's not a ton to go off, but i think he probably does prefer cartoons at least in UT timeline because of his cartoon bombs and obvious disdain for mew mew kissy cutie

also probably misremembering, but i think there was some thing where toby's twitter actually corrected someone about how many fingers mettaton had? i don't know why he bothered

I want to get Mom and Dad back together... I want Kris to have what I couldn't.

>>531569516
>Azzy fucks with fat bitches.
That is a subjective catch. Depends on who hears it.

>>531569789
Its so funny going back to ch3/4 launch day /utg/ and seeing this place shit on Tenna as being bland. I wonder what happened to all the doomers?

Addison SEX

>>531569584
Well you cant bloody well serve someone for long if you're dead and buried can you?

>>531570025
She's so fucking flat

>>531566947
>mettaton
>my folders are not catalogued well but at least 280

>>531569241
Frisk's design is genuinely ugly

>>531570012
I still think hes kinda bland but 'm no hater

>>531570012
Chapter 3 was designed as a stop and smell the roses type chapter with a lot of read-between-the-lines text so the guys that rushed through to get to the ship confirmations and epic reveals (which they were expecting at chapter 3 out of 7+) just could not appreciate it

>>531570432
what? tenna basically chaperones you through the whole thing at his pace not yours

>>531569516
Its just writing on paper, you dont know how much of it is genuine and how much he's writing out of obligation. "The expensive kind you have to buy" isnt exactly trying that hard

>>531570432
Imagine waiting for years for Toby Fox kino and then ruining the experience by blitzing it.

>>531570658
You can do a ton of extra stuff even on the board games to get loads of dialogue.

>>531570432
I don't know why any of them were expecting that in the first place, all Toby Fox games up to this point have been filled with "read-between-the-lines text", as if the new chapters were suddenly gonna be something different. He is not a writer who just directly tells you shit, you have to take your time figuring it out.

>>531570658
Both the boards are full of little interactions between Kris, Susie and Ralsei that require you to slow your roll and to engage with the game to see

>>531570012
>I wonder what happened to all the doomers?
TV fags and fujos buttplugged the whiny doomers and asserted their dominance

>>531570697
I think he's genuinely trying to be sweet and to live up to his golden boy obligations to have a date to the dance but his heart's just not in it

Imagine opening a fountain in your bedroom and your cum sock becomes a Darkner.

>Kris pulled some kind of prank on Dess, which leads to her entering the Bunker's dark world
>FRIEND is the one actually responsible for Dess' disappearance
>Noelle tries to cast Snowgrave to save her sister, but fails and the trauma ends up erasing the incident from her memory
>Asgore is actually not responsible at all, but somebody has to take the fall and he does it both because he is the police chief and to protect Kris
>The reason why Toriel divorces Asgore is not because she thinks he is responsible, but because Asgore became obsessed with finding Dess and proving the existence of dark worlds to save both families. It's also why Toriel doesn't like Carol, because she supports Asgore's theory.
>Toriel sends Kris to art therapy and overall she becomes both an overbearing mother (holding her child's hand at school even when they are like 16) and a neglectful one (starts drinking due to stress, overall lets Kris do whatever) because deep down she has no idea what to do with her weirdo traumatized human kid

I'm like 90% convinced this is the case

god this thing is going to make me go fucking INSANE

Guys I found out the hard way to not mess with the rarecats game.

>>531571739
Same man, same

>>531571212
Starwalker... is a gaster?

>He is an 'original' and was replaced
>Shows up in the room where you get the first egg

>>531571552
There's a couple of things I disagree with but this seems to be the rough outline of what happened
The specifics of why Kris and Dess ended up at the shelter are still a question mark (going by the Sword Route game my guess is Kris brought Noelle into a Dark World and Dess had to bail them out) and so are the specifics of the divorce (The Dess obsession was clearly a factor but I feel like the flower shop might also be a part of it) though

If FRIEND is really my humble servant with meta level knowledge how come when I say FRIEND INSIDE ME at my monitor three times while Deltarune is running FRIEND doesn't come out of the game with its cock out? Is this a plot hole?

>>531571347
yeah, it could be that the junior dance was not too long after dess disappeared
given that the cats are also the only other church family it could be that toriel set it up for asriel as well so he's doubly not as invested

>>531571739
has it even been a month

>>531571928
>"Kris... you uh have to run away"
>"No no, I'm totally sure this is the only way"
>"Don't worry about me, I'll deal with the horny cat by myself"

>>531572353
It's been over a month

>>531572703
gimme me my NEWSLETTER, DOG

A cat is fine too.

>>531572858
Immediate mating press

In Undertale Asgore was a King. He had respect, love and power and he was a child murderer.
Asgore in Deltarune was a cop who lost his job and is now running a failing business and living off snack plates while doing odd jobs for the only friends he has left because he's obsessed with saving a child.
What did Toby mean by this?

spamton is on the epstein list

With all the Atlantis, water and Flood foreshadowing I want the surprise to be that theres a whole ruined city under the lake. It could either be a human city that Kris was a member of and drowned in the flood, or possibly a second copy of Hometown that was already flooded in the last Roaring

>>531573229
Asgore being sad is a canon event across all timelines. One must imagine Asgore happy.

>>531573387
Epstein was on the Spamton list.

>>531573387
Design a darkner that is the epstein list.

>>531573229
Toriel is the one with the horrific past this time.

I suspect she treated Kris like a literal dog when he was first adopted and the incident made her change her mind after that. The Gallon of Pet Shampoo was for Kris.

>>531573420
There probably is going to be a big reveal where a major area/character is actually just a copy. Hometown being a copy would definitely be interesting, could tie into timeloop theory.

Would you give an Addison a C-section (there’s no baby inside) for $100?

>>531571552
Susie has unrevealed involvement in all this somehow. Probably involving her dad who I really want to be Gaster it'd be amazing

meow meow :3

>>531573678
If you're [INTERMEDIATE DIFFICULTY] at something never do it for [Zilch!!]

>>531572093
I think Starwalker is the Original Fun Gang's first SAVE while Titans are somehow "goner save points" from a failed run of the prophecy

>>531573664
Kris's Hand is most likely though it's certainly possible that all of Kris is a colored in vessel

>>531573678
It is, by definition, impossible to perform a C-section is there is no fetus to extract. No one would get the $100.

>>531573878
You just have to cut an Addison’s stomach open then sew it back up while he’s awake

Are we winning?

>>531573984
no

Would you deepthroat an Addison’s nose for $30?

Just a reminder that darkners don't matter, they are just fake and they just pretend to have happy lives when you aren't looking at them.
I wish the game would stop pretending I should care about them.

>>531574134
Finally, a good shitpost.

>>531574079
If you're [HOT FEMALE SANTAS IN YOUR AREA] at [Parental-Approved Activity] never do it for [Tips to raise your Self-Esteem!]

>>531571739
I dont care about it. It's nothing important, just a distraction

>>531573518
It's him... Drymp

>>531574028
Will there be a game where we can win at least once?

I will never understand why people are so insistent on "time loop theory". Do you all really think Toby Fox is that much of a faggot that he would add legitimate deus ex machina to the game? Someone autistic enough about lore would never touch time travel with a 40 foot pole because it NEVER makes sense. The kind of savepoint resetting is specifically designed around knowing the pitfalls of ordinary "it's le time travel" shit

>>531574382
i hope so

>>531574408
I'm pretty sure anybody who brought that up was never sincere. It really is a meme because discussing more reasonable theories is getting old

Susie was at her best in chapter 1
All other chapters Susie is just the girl Toby Fox wants to fuck

>>531566423
Fuck the they/them no sense. In my head canon Kris is a 6 feet metalhead with greek god tier muscles and with a deep voice. The they/them bullshit was putted by Toby Fox to attract faggots from Reddit and Twitter

Does Spamton take his glasses off to sleep?

>>531574526
It can't be old when we still don't have a conclusive answer. Some anons only recently figured out the "tail of hell will take crawl" is about a lit fuse and not "FRIEND" like everyone jumped to assume.

>>531574593
>implying chapter 1 Susie wasn't Tobison's dream dino-girl

Anyone else think Ralsei looked best in chapter 1 when he had black fur and a Snufkin hat?

>>531574773
Never heard that one.
>the "tail of hell will take crawl" is about a lit fuse
Fuck. Kris really is about to bomb the school.

>>531574749
Kris is an underweight beanstalk that subsists on mainly sugar as we have seen time and time again. He's certainly male but don't act like he's stacked or anything. Toriel doesn't feed him properly

Would you sleep with Spamton for both of you to get $100? No, not like that, literal sleeping, with mandatory cuddling.

>>531574952
I don't trust my unconscious body. No one's getting that $100.

>>531574749
I feel less people would be annoyed about they/them if Kris wasn't always acting&dressing masculine

>>531574903
*She's certainly female

>sometimes I just rewatch the Spamton Sweepstakes for fun
Am I mentally ill?

>>531575103
just say this sentence
>"I am rewatching the spamtom sweepstake to learn new lore in the context of chapter3&4"

>>531574408
Time loop theory.... Unlikely

Changing the past one time? Likely

>>531575074
if kris wore a dress people would complain you're stigmatising against men who wear skirts or some shit. there is no winning

anyway femkris best kris

post your most god tier saved art

>>531574892
No no, it's about fireworks. The fireworks will cause the inferno

>>531574749
>T-Toby is secretly based and has just been pretending to be accepting of queer people for decades to appease twitter!
Ah the /v/ cope is still going strong

>i can't stop gooning
disorderly

>>531575103
No. That was genuinely enjoyable. If you call it cringe, then you must also call it kino.

In all seriousness, using they/them pronouns in the singular is jarring and grammatically incorrect. All the they/them dialogue in chapter 4 made me wince. Not because I hate enbies or anything, just because it looks and sounds awful

>>531573518
I'm gonna take a guess and this guy's name is literally just ROOT and shows up in the shelter as a normal enemy

>Undertale, Deltarune, Undertale Yellow, Shades of Justice, Deltarune Yellow, Deltatraveler, Red & Yellow, Bits and Pieces, TS Underswap, Outertale
What do I play now?

>>531575261
Which is ironic considering how gender-neutral the english language is supposed to be.

>>531575261
>and grammatically incorrect
Singular they has existed in english for longer than America has existed.

>>531575305
as in indie rpgs?
Yume nikki, Off, Omori, Lisa, In Stars and Time, hylics

>>531575379
hochi mama thats nice

>>531575209
No, because that's bootstrap paradox and the absolute worst type of time travel nonsense.
>>531575074
>>531575215
No one ever would have complained about the whole "they/them" thing if the mentally ill didn't co-opt it for their retarded identity politics. No one cares if you say you think Kris is non-binary. It's only a problem when you insist that's the canon interpretation and everyone has to believe that.

>>531575305
One Shot

>>531575367
There is no timeless and eternal book of grammar, sure, standards developed over time. Punctuation marks used to be used in radically different ways, too. Doesn’t make it any less obnoxious when people violate accepted modern conventions of their use today.

>>531575305
hatoful boyfriend including secret route

>>531575305
OFF and OneShot

>>531575505
I'd have more respect for your kind if you just admitted you're triggered at twittershit instead of pretending its incorrect grammar.

>>531575367
But it hasn't existed as long as Japan, the canon nation.

>>531575305
earthbound

Tobert fox should have both Kris and Susie remove their shirts and not censor anything

>>531575610
It is incorrect grammar. What grammar is proper simply changes slowly over time in accordance with the choices of the most literate. I’m not “triggered” by anything, it’s just a bad stylistic decision

>>531575727
>it is incorrect grammar
Prove it

>>531575305
>playing any of these shit that aren't UT and DR and maybe UTY
Fucking why?

>>531575270
* Hey
* I'm Rooty the Root.
* They call me the Root of all Evil
(Megalovania starts playing)

>>531575760
Read a grammar manual
Try writing without keeping agreement in number in a professional context and see what kind of reactions you get

>>531575861
https://www.oed.com/discover/a-brief-history-of-singular-they/?tl=true

Read this instead, also maybe take a middle school english class.

>>531575610
>>531575760
NTA but there are ESL anons in these threads who have said that playing the game in english is jarring because of the use of they/them being difficult to decipher. It's not necessarily "incorrect", but it's obvious not "common" in modern English these days if the people learning English are struggling with it

ESL game (it's japanese)
ESL thread
ESL general

singular ‘they’ does exist, but it’s still a little confusing and maybe jarring seeing characters use it to refer to their named close friend/relative instead of something ambiguous like say, the knight.

that said, being triggered enough to complain about it is laughable

>>531575494
Yep, the nonbinary Kris people are total zealots who suck the fun and whimsy out of everything. If Toby updated the game and just made Kris explicitly a dude we would be way better off. Or a chick if he wants to be an epic troll.

>>531576003
susie not just calling the knight 'it' feels weird to me. it's literally a goop monster

How the fuck are you guys not bored of whining about pronouns, its like every fucking thread and we still havw 3~ years to go until the game is done.

>>531575982
yknow I never really understood toby fox until I found out that he's at least part hispanic. Now it ALL makes sense. The weebiness, the lack of online presence, the depictions of broken families

>>531575915
Nothing in here has any bearing on what I said. I’m aware that standards are not eternal. Grammar is relative to time period and audience to a large extent. The fact is that they has been strictly considered a plural pronoun among the literate for centuries and that violating this convention is very jarring for people who have been taught language well.

The freest one

GET ME OUT OF THIS WHACK ASS KRISTAL PRISON

>>531576107
I'm extremely bored of it, but I keep having to see they/them zealots everywhere I go. Even when the Undertale fandom was at its worst, it didn't have many people like that.

>>531576096
I mean she sees the Knight running through town like 2 minutes after the encounter so she assumes its a Lightner.

>>531576158
You mean have *NOT* been taught the language well.

The Knight is Dess.
But she needs a host body like Carol (Alphys saw Undyne and Carol at night in Chapter 4) or Alvin (why would be abandon the church before night time) to function.

>>531576061
There's actually dialogue already in the game to suggest Kris is female, but it would be EXTRA weird if that was the case because... why would a teen male and female in puberty age be sharing a room like that? Very bad vibes. That specific situation above all else is why I'm convinced Kris is male

>>531576165
then why is there no theme of freedom?

I just think that Kris is they/them because that is what the text in the game says and one of the main things about the game is how Kris is a separate established character from you
Calling Kris he or she is just forcing headcanon as fact and confuses discussion

Female kris is based because gotecucks will not have a self insert

>>531576196
>but I keep having to see they/them zealots everywhere I go.
No you dont. I'm gay and I dont see this shit outside of 4chan. Now start making good posts or kill yourself.

>>531576269
There's more dialogue that suggests Kris is male, like how Pizzapants brags about chick he scored or when Tenna calls him "ol' buddy ol' pal"

>>531576158
I have to disagree with this statement. At the very least down south where I'm at, we've always used "they" interchangeably for people of indeterminate gender and when referring to groups. I don't even register it in the dialogue the majority of the time.

>Frisk is "they"
>no one gives a shit
>Kris is "they"
>left and right shit themselves over it
I hate modern social media.

>>531576289
She's free from freedom motiv.

>>531576474
UT was a simpler time, where people just got mad at Alphys

>>531576347
So is saying he must only be called they/them "or you're a projecting bigot". Toby left it ambiguous so the player can choose for themselves what they see Kris as, he did the same thing with Frisk for the same reason, even though Toby personally considered Frisk as a boy.

>>531576269
because they grew up with it and didn't see the need to change it?

the same logic would apply to chara who is almost universally considered female by the fandom.

>>531576446
In common, spoken English. That’s a result of the relaxation of grammatical and stylistic standards between people who simply don’t care. When you write you’re supposed to be much more conscious of grammar and style, of the established conventions of language use among the most literate and reflective users of the language. That’s what it means to know the language well.
>>531576238

>>531576474
I think its because Kris is much more of a "self insert" character that has a more established social life (as dead as that is when we start the game). In UT we are an outsider with no connections to anyone we come across.

>>531576240
What if instead of Dess' soul and body being separated, the whole real Dess is trapped in the code and the Knight is a Goner copy? Would explain the afterimages it makes similar to the Vessel

>>531576547
>Toby left it ambiguous so the player can choose for themselves what they see Kris as
I thought chapter 4 killed all the "Kris is muh self insert" fags

>>531576385
You live under a rock.
>>531576389
I chalk that up more to PP being a creep...? Which he is, going by how Bratty describes him. Pretty sure "buddy" and "pal" are gender neutral, so I'm not holding my breath on that one.

>>531576385
I do see it everywhere actually and I don't freaking care if you're gay

>>531576474
frisk was explicitly like that for self insert purposes and kris is not

rightoids absolutely unable to accept that the creator of the gay furry game had intent when he made his Specifically Their Own Character protagonist have their own specific pronouns are just chugging endless copium raw

>>531576603
>When you write you’re supposed to be much more conscious of grammar and style, of the established conventions of language use among the most literate and reflective users of the language. That’s what it means to know the language well.
Toby is a much better writer than you, though, so I trust his take on this.

this shitty thread made me realise both the pronoun-warriors and the self insert spastics are going to make the fandom absolutely unbearable if human girl dess is real

>>531576675
A 90s TV would not call a girl "ol' buddy ol' pal," it actually is quite a gendered phrase.

>>531576547
>I can choose that Kris is actually colored purple, call Kris purple and everyone has to accept it as fact or else

>>531575232
All the biggest proponents of queer theory were either pedophiles or pedophile advocates.

Little Known Fact: You don't have to care when people are wrong. You can literally not engage with them and wait for them to die instead of arguing with someone who doesn't want to change their mind or hear any reasoning.

>>531576587
They were children. There's a massive difference between two young kids around 8/9 sharing a room and two teenagers in puberty age doing so. Those hormones are dangerous, and you're woefully ignorant if you don't realize that.
>>531576638
Gender/race ambiguity has nothing to do with self-inserting, and equating it to that is deliberately muddying the water

>>531576474
if we ignore shitposts, Frisk in Undertale 1 was a little blob child with an extremly ugly sprite, completly immature.
Kris a older teenager with a more detailed sprite and a masculine build.

>>531576748
he also plays around with grammar and expectations constantly and regularly and the idea that he just whiffed it on this one example that also happens to be their pet culture war issue and it isn't intentional is also absolutely beyond retarded

>>531576759
>shoes fit for hooves
Its fucking OVER

>>531576801
This might be the dumbest post in the thread which is saying something.

>>531574824
Ralsei's portrayal in Chapter 1 is still my favourite. I will never forgive Toby for making him femboy bait.

>>531576803
You can draw Kris purple if you want, nobody should get mad at you for it.

good morning i love tenna

>>531576196
>>531576385
>I keep having to see they/them zealots everywhere I go
I misread this as "they/them Zeldas" at first and I was reminded of all the twitter freaks genuinely upset that one tranny actor wasn't cast for Zelda lmao

>>531576801
it's also the kind of thing you say as a joke to your friends referencing a movie, which the kids canonically did in front of tenna
>cmon kris ol buddy ol pal, give me the last chocolate- hey stop biting me

>>531576826
BUT I NEED TO FUCKING WIN ON THE INTERNET

>>531576898
people draw explicitly male and explicitly female kris all the time and no one gives a fuck

when you try pretending thats whats actually in the game and UHH WHAT TOBY MEANT WAS thats when it becomes annoying as fuck. its in the game. hold that shit

>>531576748
He’s a great creative writer but his use of language is often lacking. The script for chapters 3 and 4 had a lot of little problems. He could use an editor. The Japanese translation doesn’t have the same noticeable language problems, even if some jokes (and whole characters, like Spamton) don’t translate well

>>531576845
You type like you're larping as Jordan Peterson and its making me laugh my ass off.

>>531576884
It's not a dumb post at all, you just don't want to accept that it's a gendered phrase, I doubt you could acknowledge that gendered phrases exist in the first place.

Name 1 (one) (uno) (ein) single positive thing about Tenna

>>531576914
Yeah you do!
>Captcha: TVKNX

>>531576845
>you'll fuck your sister just because she's in the same room and she has tity now

>>531576891
I was a bit disappointed when he lost the hat and gained a face, but he ended up being so good that I still liked him anyway. It made me feel good about myself getting confirmation that I don't judge on appearances and personality is still the deciding factor on whether I like a character.

>>531576845
>Those hormones are dangerous
what the fuck are you talking about. the reason you split up male/female teens is simple privacy concerns because no one wants to get their dick, balls or pussy out in front of their sibling

>>531576974
>He’s a great creative writer but his use of language is often lacking
Thanks for sharing your incorrect take.

>>531576998
His VHS intro says COMING alot and it makes me giggle. Im not even a tennafag.

>>531576998
He is funny, likeable and has good lore? Spamton is also a cool character with a dogshit fandom.

>>531576385
>>531576759
With the exception of one specific anon (most likely you) this thread has been by far the most productive Kris gender conversation I've seen in years. Shut the fuck up already.

>>531576967
It's not that serious blud, take it down a notch. Also yes Kris is canonically a boy with a dick and balls and identifies as a boy, everyone is misgendering him.

Toby left it ambiguous because kris is ambiguous or because he doesn't want to be pushy about nb representation.
If toby doesn't want to confirm it, I think it's ok to headcanon their gender as you want.

>>531577130
You quoted two different people and you added nothing, so take my earlier advice for the other anon and kill yourself.

The dumbest things make me draw.

>>531577181
Pretty much, some people want to treat Kris like they're Fang from Goodbye Volcano High but she's just not, he's a totally different type of character.

>>531577238
Ramb is also a future schizo boss and based FRIEND kidnapped him

>>531576998
he provided a ship for mettaton that doesnt make me want to projectile vomit (rare)

>>531577238
Bottom panel should be the same as the top one but with a pronoun argument on /utg/.

>>531577121
those were three things
>>531577306
people actually ship that?

>>531577238
I'm more surprised how much the name "ERAM" caught on when it's literally just called "shadow_mantle_boss" in the game

>>531577091
It didn’t bother you when Ralsei said
>it’s already been here the whole time

>>531576845
>Kris has to be male because Asriel is a incestuous pedophile rapist
The house just has only two bedrooms

>>531577238
Bonus

>>531577008
juicy

>>531576983
That's actually pretty funny lol
I don't know what he typically posts like. I just happen to write this way. Laughing with you now though
>>531577027
>t. the woefully ignorant
>>531577083
Well yeah, obviously that's also true. But it ties back to same root issue of gender differences during puberty years. The fact of the matter is teen men and women should not be sharing a room

>>531577374
Calling it Shadow_Mantle_Boss every time is unwieldy and ERAM is fun and zippy

>>531576998
I like how his arms got chopped off when he died

>>531577471
>teen men and women
lol dude, they're called boys and girls
But anyways no, siblings staying in the same room do not want to fuck each other. Your mind has been rotted by porn.

Hey guys, check out this cat! Ain't it cool?

Kris is a boy 'cuz if the Holidays have two daughters, it's only fair that the Dreemurrs have two sons
Simple as

>>531577379
The fact that this is where your mind goes and not "teenagers are stupid and hormonal" is really telling, actually

>>531577352
mettaton/tenna? yes. usually mettaghost humping a literal television. still better than papyton.

>>531577629
Are we sure December is a girl?

>>531566332 (OP)
Any ideas what we're gonna do with the Thorn Ring after aborting Snowgrave? Just fuse it and that's it?

>>531577558
>rotted by porn
First of all, I've seen it happen and heard more stories IRL than you think. It's disturbingly common. Second of all, I am a gay man and don't watch any kind of porn with women in it to begin with, so that argument doesn't do anything for you

>>531577780
So thats how she got to the church before us...

Knight is not Dess
Knight is basically a mini-Titan that has been spawned through Dess' determination to get out from whatever shithole she get herself trapped in.
Also I want to mating press Carol and fill her milf womb to a brim.

>>531577709
december is a corpse

>>531577709
yeah, they refer to Dess as "Noelle's sister" several times

>>531566947
>Spamton
>7723

>>531577778
Fusing is one option, if there's another segment with Noelle maybe we can re-equip and that'll be a whole thing but I kinda doubt it

>>531577816
>I've seen it happen
You've seen siblings have sex with each other because they shared a room. Really.

I'm going to stop reading your post here until you address this.

>>531577649
>mettaton gets the tv
>papyrus gets the catgirl
>blookie is too focused on the grind to be bothered by simple corporeal things like getting pussy

>>531577558
How maladjusted are you? Teen brothers and sisters, who should be considered as young men and young women as well as children, should not share a room because when kids hit puberty, there's a natural desire for privacy, especially between different genders, since they're developing very differently. They need a space to grow independently while they deal with their confusing hormones on top of that. That's why it's a near universal practice, and correct, to separate teenage brothers and sisters into different rooms.

>>531577642
Does monster hormones make them want to fuck humans? Or viceversa?

>>531567423
But that would go against the wishes of the upper class and they're more important than the lower or middle one?

>The Girl from the prophecy uses a sword
>The Girl from the prophecy has bangs and long hair
>Kris uses a sword
>Kris is a they/them person wearing baggy clothes and short hair to look less feminine, but also has bangs
Hmmmm

would you want your deranged knife wielding suicidal child sleeping alone

>>531577918
It's crazy what people will sometimes just tell you when you're genuinely nice to them. I've never watched a brother and sister fuck, obviously (because women are icky), but there are some people who like... aren't that ashamed that it happened.

>>531577979
ever since deltarune dropped i assumed it was a pokemon situation, nobody brings it up ever but it's happening somewhere behind curtains
i can bring up the mages headcanon again

>>531577974
You've never gone on vacation and roomed with your brother/sister? I feel like I'm talking to people with zero siblings (or zero friends for that matter). You people are weirdos.

Interesting note, America is the only country outside the middle east with split sex Scouting. There is no Boy/Girl Scouts, its just Scouts. And somehow those organizations arent filled with teen pregnancies.

>>531578060
So... It's saying Susie will use a sword later? Probably a special sword.

>>531578060
Noelle can also use swords.

>>531578060
Maybe dess has bangs and long hair and uses sword

>>531577850
I don't know. When Ralsie tells you to think about what Susie is up to in chapter 4 but refuse, you get to think about the knight and it does say they're about to take off a helmet but than Kris derails that train of thought right into jockington.
So it's someone in a suit of armour probably made of the same stuff as the black shard.
The black shard is the same in both light and dark so the armor could be the same.
And for that last part, you do you man. Holes a goal I guess.

>>531577816
the bedroom that makes you want to fuck your sibling
if being in a bedroom was enough for siblings to have sex then we'd have ten times the amount of incest, i had to share my bedroom with my brother for about eights to ten years and never once did we fuck
if siblings ended up fucking just because they had to share a bedroom then they would have ended up fucking regardless

>>531578151
>You've never gone on vacation and roomed with your brother/sister?
Sure, but I didn't share a room permanently with my sisters at any point. Bunking temporarily is far more manageable. The one time I did share a room with my sisters for more than a week, things got way too weird and I'm glad I was responsible as I was as a kid. Teenage girls are stupidly horny, emphasis on "stupidly".

I hope we the player get to kill Kris

Cucks coping

>>531578151
Sharing a room for a few days is not sharing a bedroom while living together. That is the most asinine comparison I have ever seen someone try to make on this topic.
Also, "interesting note", the gender-neutral scouts still have different sleeping quarters.

>>531576347
It's been fucking yonks since I played Undertale so correct me if I'm wrong but isn't Frisk established to be their own person by the end of the pacifist run? Despite that, people don't seem to have any trouble accepting that they're as much of a blank slate as possible for the player to project themselves onto. I don't see how Kris is any different, beyond the fact that them being their own person is much more of a pronounced plot point.

What's HEAVENS SYMBOL on the ass of the Berdly statue in the sweepstakes supposed to be?

>>531578470
Nah according to this guy he still thinks teens will fuck after a week
>>531578353
So I was right on the money. Its just incest fetishists projecting.

>>531578570
>So I was right on the money. Its just incest fetishists projecting.
No, it's biology. You think 99% of parents separate their adolescent sons and daughters for no fucking reason? You're a retard, man.

>>531578494
Congratulations, you've uncovered one of the many points of hypocrisy in the gender argument. They will continue to insist this isn't the same somehow

why are we even treating this like some concrete gotcha either way? its clearly there to evoke a chara parallell and you aren't supposed to think about it more than that.

>>531578654
>its biology that siblings want to fuck each other
The cope is getting crazier

>>531578570
the way anon writes her sister as a stupid horny teenager almost makes me believe he wanted to get molested
did you know that most people with an incest fetish are single children?
>anyways ut/dt?

>>531578564
It's the kanji often used for Heaven.

>>531578458
Noelle is like that German guy who paid someone to kill him and eat him afterwards

If Tenna was 3D, then Gaster will be live action.
Also I want to breed Spamelle

ROOTS and the tree trauma is the Deltarune equivalent of the tree in the Ruins where Chara may have been buried. The Shelter is the Ruins in reverse undertale theory, and Kris probably died or was supposed to have died during the Tree Incident

>>531578708
Under circumstances it's more likely to happen. You can't even follow a simple thought dude, you are literally retarded, I would be shocked if you spoke to a real human being any time soon.

>>531578734
Spamton wanted to see into Berdly's ass?

>>531578782
I speak to my sister all the time without having sex with her, though.

How do you imagine the vessel is utg?
doll-like with segments and ball joints, mechanical like mettaton, a regular flesh & bone body or clay/goopy like an amalgamate?
I want to model a vessel quickly tonight so I'm fishing for ideas

>>531578458
noelle riding and ramming her crotch against ralsei's (wo)manhandeable body until he fills her up with pseudodreemur bastards like tori and carol wanted

>>531578810
Do you share a room with her? Ask her if you can bunk with her for a while and see what she thinks.

>>531578829
Gray clay golem, skin still feels like flesh

If the player is canon and the angel how would toby handle the game being played by a bot?
The bot would be as dark as Gaster. Is toby not meta enough to handle this instance?

>>531578348
You know that incest happens plenty and just isn't openly discussed, right? Like, as much as I wish that wasn't true, it is. I'm glad to know that's not an issue you have, maybe because you're well-adjusted and had other interests, but the fact that it's a cultural norm to separate brothers and sisters at a certain age didn't just happen because people thought it should. These things aren't arbitrary

>>531566423
How will Kris deal with their inevitable twink death?

>>531578810
Are you a teenager? That would explain why you're an idiot.

>>531578896
I did when I was younger.

> Ask her if you can bunk with her for a while and see what she thinks.
Hilariously she has offered me a place to stay multiple times when I was moving, she has a pretty great house. You sound super weird dude, do you not have siblings that would let you stay with them?

>>531578829
flesh and bones, but hitting the uncanny valley, like those old dolls that try too hard to look realistic, specially since the vessel has no face (no mouth to scream, no eyes to cry, no nose to smell, no genitals to plap)

>>531578494
"i don't see how its different other than the fact it is very explicitly different"

the point in undertale is that you think frisk is a self insert the whole game and they're revealed to be their own person only when you do the pacifist route and help everyone out and true acceptance is reached. they were designed from the ground up for anyone to be able to insert themselves into of any gender or race

there is nothing like that for kris. kris is their own character from minute 1 and anything else is willingly ignoring the game entirely for culture war reasons. the entire thrust of this game is that toby wanted to play around with the metanarrative of the player and the character they control being opposed to each other

>>531578829
It's like the Replicas in Kingdom Hearts; it's like a doll but you put a Soul in it and it becomes indistinguishable from an actual human body.

>>531578829
Rubbery, soft skin. Like ballistics gel

>>531579034
I might have (formerly) super weird sisters, admittedly. But you're not saying she offered to share her bedroom, so I'll take that as a concession that I'm right and call it a night. Peace.

Reminder /utg/ers are the raped so they think their siblings would rape them.

I'm not going to listen to proper sibling etiquette from the general that was mindbroken by Sans dancing with Toriel. Most of you came from broken homes, you cant lecture me on anything.

>>531566423
Fuck you anon. You started this. I hope you die.

>>531578458
Noelle is the kind of girl who would have sex with Ralsei wearing a Susie wig

>>531578494
it's all because the characterizations of the humans are entirely brought up from interaction with the monsters. the monsters know jack shit about Frisk, while Kris grew up with them

This is now an incest thread

Tobon Fox here, that anon is right, the first penis Kris ever touched was Asriel's penis

>>531579190
>call it a night
Wait I was talking to a thirdworlder, dont you guys have like 20 people to a house anyways?

>>531579281
Before his own? Does Toriel hold him when he pees?

temmie chink here, tobon is lying, the first penis kris ever touched what the one from his weird uncle's, just like that one anon

>>531579281
False asriel has a pussy.

>>531579203
>people who have experience with broken homes speaking on the depiction of a clearly broken hom
>"haha you're all so stupid and can't tell me anything"
Are you genuinely retarded or something? This is the one time you should be sitting your allegedly well-adjusted ass down and listening

>>531579401
Just because you got raped by your sibling doesnt make it a normal thing. You're projecting your trauma onto everyone else.

>>531579312
Yeah, more than that, but we still put all the girls in one room and all the boys in another. My friends from Germany did the same thing though.

>>531579386
I love my big sister Asrielle.

>>531579269
yknow I was planning to write some Krisriel today but I didn't have any ideas. Since we're an incest thread now, let's hear some

>>531579312
>anon thinks incest between siblings is normal because his family tree already looks like a closed loop
it all makes sense now

>>531579342
The only penis Kris has is a dildo

>>531579468
You could have just told him that yes, you are genuinely retarded. Would have equated to the same post.

>>531579470
I thought you said you called it a night. Lying comes easily to you, I suppose.

>>531575836
It's definitely flowey-adjacent, it has the same insectoid head as Omega Flowey

>>531579603
''blah blah blah rape abuse and molest me while you make me suck dirty dick for money then get me addicted to drugs and kill me blah blah blah''

>>531579468
Buddy, I WISH I had an older brother that sexually abused me. Instead, I'm one of the 4 men in my entire family my entire family and I hate women

>>531579559
You guys are so detached from reality you can't even acknowledge that it's weird for a parent to make an adolescent boy and girl share a room. Just for what? Because you want Kris to be a girl? You could at least go with the "Toriel is a shitty neglectful mother" angle.

>>531579603
Its not my fault your parents are divorced.
Its not my fault you think siblings want to fuck each other.

>>531579542
Dess and Noelle tribbing (on Kris' dick)

>>531579756
>didn't deny it

>>531579632
I said I *will* call it a night, learn how to read.

>>531576826
based thank you spamton

Kris is clearly a female if they and Asriel sleep together it means Asriel is a trans man.

>>531579865
>so I'll take that as a concession that I'm right and call it a night
ESLbro...not like this...

>>531579756
Acknowledging Toriel as a bad mother requires them to admit their upbringings weren't perfect either and it would mindbreak them to even consider that possibility

>>531579542
well the first half of the thread already went to shit thanks to incestfag so may as well take a note from whatever brain damage he has
make a green or otherwise about asriel and kris cuddling for warmth after a long and awful day
and then kris coaxes asriel to deflorate her or something
Add knife/bloodplay if you want?

>>531579697
>>531579758
It's not my fault you're hopelessly and stubbornly naive and stupid. But just a tip, misconstruing everything your opponent says makes it obvious to everyone how dishonest and out of your depth you are.

I told Visa, Mastercard and Paypal that Steam, Nintendo and Playstation are selling a incest game known as Deltarune

dess the doelester

>>531579996
You're arguing with multiple people and equating them as a single poster, classic sign that you're mad.

>>531579856
>didn't deny that you're a retard

>>531579996
maybe if your point wasn't so shitty and bait-adjacent i'd care about it, otherwise you sound like a jeet trying to defend his bloodline
inb4 a ''completely unrelated'' purityfag comes to complain about how answering to bait floods the thread

>>531580015
I told your mom that your a faggot.

>>531579986
Sorry to say I only write gay stories, but you did give me an angle. I'm thinking Kris is traumatized by snow due to whatever happened to December, so he gets upset seeing it. Will let this settle for a bit and see what I can make. Thanks!
Also I'm like 80% sure I am the person you're calling incestfag... all because I suggested there are issues with teenage boys and girls sharing a room, too. But I'm not the only one in this thread arguing that it's strange, at least.

>>531579930
"I'll" is a contraction of "I will," genius

>>531580201
Arent you this poster
>>531579731

>>531580121
anon this is 4chan we're all retards to some degree
>>531580201
>80% sure I am the person you're calling incestfag
cool

>>531579384
Is the uncle from Asgore's or Toriel's side?

>>531580275
Yeah, that's me

>>531580254
So then you didn't say you will call it a night. You said I will take that as a concession and call it a night. Brush up on that English!

These threads never change, same old arguments and baits.

>>531580353
Asgore's, his name is Fingers.

>>531580275
Thats not me

>>531580381
Yeah I think you're an incestfag because you admitted to wanting a sibling to rape you.

>>531580275
It might be me

Toby fucked up by having Kris fight us outside of weird route. Weird route being the weird creepypasta chapter doesnt work if there's creepypasta shit in both routes

>>531580275
it is me, and it is also not me

>>531580381
>>531580497
>>531580572
All me

>>531580389
Reread your post.

Kris is a gay male.
And he’s gay for ME.

>>531580615
>Toby fucked
with who?

>/v/ is physically incapable of talking about deltarune and is too insecure to like video games anyways
>/utg/ is autism incarnate where I'm locked in a room with 80 parrots
I'm going to take the reddit pill. There's no way its this bad.

>>531578768
Gaster is 5D, that's why we can never meet him directly, our minds wouldn't be able to comprehend him

>>531574749
Kris is 5'3 and should be made into a woman

Asriel is pregnant with Kris child.

>>531579083
>kris is their own character from minute 1 and anything else is willingly ignoring the game entirely for culture war reasons
>some blissfully ignorant fucker who doesn't know what queer theory is comes along and calls Kris a he
>hordes upon hordes of fart-huffing dipshits emerge from the ether, practically cumming from the opportunity to correct and "educate" someone
I am willingly "ignoring" the game (read; not interpreting it the way you'd like me to) for spite reasons.

assuming people here actually like deltarune i need awnsers

i fucking loved this game and i used to love undertale but the comunity and sans overuse ruined that for me quick but i loves chapter 1 and 2 but now that chapter 3 is out i decided to replay it to get refreshed and i am so fucking bored i struggle to get half way through chapter 1 i didnt even end up finishing chapter 2 on the second go around

WTF happened

>>531580774
*she's

>>531580096
If you think that matters at all you're probably a narcissist. The post applies to whoever I replied to.

>>531580165
I don't know what the hell you're even talking about at this point, and I'm a White Australian.

>>531566597
The TV wont be a Darkner because it doesnt have any significance to anyone like the TV at home

>>531580945
You burned out

>>531580963
I dont even know who you are or what you're mad about

carol is the kind of woman to make ''that'' face while sucking dick

>>531580781
good luck!

>>531580781
Heres your average reddit post:
>DAE think Toby fox is the best game developer of all time and Deltarune the goat of 2025?

>>531569406
>Kris is more like Elegg.
So he's fat?

>>531581134
You say that like this place isnt constantly seething about pronouns. Its not any different at all.

>>531579386
True dat

>>531580945
Go camping for a few months then video games are fun again.

What are the bait arguments of the new chapters?
Toriel quality as mom? What else?

>* Kris, I see you Always, with Susie.
>* Maybe Susie, is like a Catti, too you to.
>* You to, share one lizards', brain...
>* I like, I like!
>* Which one of, you, can un, hinge your jaw?
>* Kris, we were never Close, but now, we are Far.
>* To be Susies' friend, is to be, the World's Enemy.
>* Which, is sick. I respect, your Game, Kris.
>* But if you hurt, Catti, or, Catti's feelings,
>* You will be up a Ball without a Court.
>* Don't tell Catti, but I will neutralize, her hex,
>* With my Sports's Blessing. As a mercy.
>* Run, Kris! While you still have, legs!

Yeah, we are fighting Catti and Jockington in chapter 5.

>>531580963
what kind of self respecting aussie goes out of his way to defend incest?

>>531581208
It's more of an echo chamber, so it's worse by default.

>>531581208
the difference is that if 4chan had a voting system every pronoun post would have -30 downvotes

>>531580781
Reddit is the worst place in the internet to discuss anything, you'll have more luck in tiktok comments

>>531581337
It made the Asgore truck meme so maybe the echo chamber is filled with funny people.

>>531581272
i wonder if there's some secret code, the way it's written almost makes me believe it

>>531581189
We like to say "thicc"

>>531581326
I literally never did that, I said it's better to prevent incest.

>>531580945
You ran out of patience. You got older, and are struggling to partake in the game as a whole the way you did a few years ago. I felt the same way. Chapter 3 and 4 felt like a slog the first time I played through it. The good news is, once you actually get through it, you enjoy the experience again, and repeating it a second time is easy breezy (assuming you can bring yourself to skip dialogue). Just hang in there.

>>531581216
video games in genral i still absoluetly love its just for some ungodly reason deltarune a game i was extremely hype for kinda died in my eye

>>531581383
You say that like it's a good thing? I'm glad we don't have a downvote system.

mizzle
*lancer_splat.sfx*
miss mizzle
*reverse_lancer_splat.sfx*

>>531573678
Pink Addison, sure. Just give me a couple days to scrounge up $100.

>>531581404
Some guy on X made that.

I draw kris in special vampire outfit

>>531581397
First thing I saw is this cute art someone made. I dunno, I'm thinking reddit is based. I barely see any OC here these days.

>>531581635
Nice.

>>531581635
looks sick

>>531581493
weren't you saying incest was supposedly a common thing?
i'm still certain rooms wouldn't change a thing, siblings don't fuck just from sharing bedrooms, they do for many other reasons

>>531581541
It's the dog's fault. You were forced to wait for too long, and now you've lost interest. There's no one to blame but Toby Fox himself.

>>531581635
As long as you dont look at the hands this is great.

>>531581579
No, the difference is in groupthink. I know for every kris gender post 70% of anons are rolling their eyes and ignoring it. If you go on reddit, they’ll say that the Knight is Gaster on HRT and the voting system confirms the majority of posters *loves* that. I don’t want to associate with them

>>531581635
I will feed them blood sausage and fried baby potatoes to grow big and strong like Unky Dracula

Do you think they will ever remake chapter 1 to be like all the other chapters?

>Chapter 4
>Dark World is a labyrinth of books
>No schizo boss obsessed with books and knowledge
Missed opportunity.

>>531581883
didn't reddit also love that fanart of kris hanging itself?

The tail of hell that made the poor children suffer is the lit fuse of a firework Kris tried to prank Dess with and ended up blowing her up into a million pieces. It also blew off Kris's hand. Asgore was fired because he was in charge of firework safety at the festival. The Knight is a zombie Darkner like Gerson which can persist outside fountains at night.

Dess is grooming Kris again ..

>>531581781
I think you're talking about me. And no, the point (I think) we're trying to collectively make is that sharing a bedroom increases the number of factors that can lead to incest by a large amount. This isn't really up for debate, either, since... you know, it's a standard thing to separate men and women after a certain age for a reason, even if you personally don't know that reason.

>>531581635
Neat.

>>531581953
>>No schizo boss obsessed with books and knowledge
gerson was a writer AND the schizo boss, i'd say he counts

>>531582008
>*gasp* no! It can't be!

>>531581950
If they didnt do it for the priced release then literally the only hope is when chapter 7 comes out. So I doubt it. I do expect the chapter 4 Castle Town to be updated though.

42 days

>>531581883
You don't know what anyone here thinks because our opinions are invisible to you unless we specifically choose to express them. That's the point. If the only thing keeping you sane is convincing yourself "If we had downvotes everyone would agree with me" you're just the same problem in a different direction.

>>531576446
And you wonder why southeners are considered the most retarded sounded amerifats.

>>531581781
I didn't say it's common, thankfully most parents take preventative measueres and makes sure their kids are adjusting to adolescence properly.

>>531582137
>chapter 4 castle town
Is there something wrong with the town?

>>531581839
this is why I like to post here, ya don't hold back. I'll fixit

Thanks also guys

>>531581981
How would you know?

>>531582027
Why do you keep calling underage teenagers men and women

>>531582161
i can see the volume of posts in different typing styles that refer to kris as “him”. you are one of the precious few hangers-on who thinks kris is le heccin valid enby

What if the thornring ends up killing noelle?

>>531582008
You mean like she's brushing its hair right?

>>531582309
Noelle will get stranger

>>531582309
what if kris used the thornring as a cockring but then his cock fell off and he became a they

>>531582121
I wouldn't called Gerson a schizo boss. The secret boos, yes, but Gerson was a perfect example of an anti-schizo boss. He was far to level-headed,experienced and well-intentioned to fall into the schizo territory.

>>531582226
For starters the music store is closed for no reason, and those guys had a full art shop.

>>531582256
NTA but see >>531577974
Adolescents are still kids, but they should also be considered young men and young women. Omitting the "young" sounds a bit off, but their point is still true.

>>531582027
we're going in circles at this point anon, people already explained why that train of thought is stupid so i can't bother to do it again myself
i'll take a note from whatever incestfag that said to call it a night and cut it, but for realsies this time

>>531582169
Why on god's green earth do you think I give a fuck what any foreigner thinks about any part of my country?

>>531582480
hopefully those ugly fucking robots were killed

>>531582483
You're arguing in bad faith, obviously, that's why you're not convincing anyone.

>>531582247
oh i browse it every so often, being honest the quality in average is the same as this place, look we'll enough and there should be one decent sub per decent general on average

Kris feels a pang of dysphoria when the internet captcha comes up and says "Verify: I am a monster"

>>531577623
yo cat

>>531582482
I dont need to hear anything from an incest fetishist, thanks. Kids are not men and women, learn english.

>>531582256
I guess it's a dialetic thing? Teenagers are more often called "young men and women" than they are "teenagers" where I'm at, so I suppose that's what I default to. Never really occurred to me that it came across as strange.

>>531581620
You mean Twitter.

>>531582616
>asked to indentify the images of froggit
>it's always fucking mettaton
>who even designs this

Dess looking through the bathroom keyhole to peep on Kris but only seeing a distinct red color unmoving.

>>531582616
Nothing new from developed society conceived and inhabited almost entirely by monsters. Humans are borderline second-class citizens, assuming there's enough of them to even give a fuck about.

>>531582732
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aZZDiqM60v0

>>531582659
I don't think an incest fetishist would say it's a good thing to prevent it from happening. And yes teenagers are kind of in-between being kids and adults.

Hello /utg/. how are all of you doing today? Today I feel surprisingly good.

>>531582732
kris looking trough the bathroom keyhole to peep on noelle but only getting itchy powder blown into its face and a whiffling on the back of the head

I saw some guy on twitter say Susie was a monster in a mostly human village. Is that real or just a headcanon?

>>531582835
My tummy hurts…

>>531582684
Ive never heard that unless its being really condescending to a child or a euphemism like all the "young women" mentioned in Epstein coverage

>>531582867
Damn.

>>531582824
>teenagers are kind of in-between being kids and adults.
kinda like...
clopen

>>531582848
i don't recall any source for that ingame, it must be headcanon

>>531582835
My apartment directly under the sun and it's way too fucking hot

>>531582848
She went to human church, its real

>>531582865
Cute

>>531581783
Damn your right i blame his pokemon music

i wish i was at my would be home on one of my would be two offdays from a well paying job impregnating my would be wife instead of rotting for more than half of the day in an office

>>531582886
It's just one of those things that really exemplifies how different the english lexicon is between each state, and especially how different it is to other countries
In any case, the point is I'm calling them something that denotes them as teenagers

>>531582886
It sounds more condescending not to call them that IMO. Maybe it sounds condescending to you because Jewsish movies make the people who say it sound like obnoxious nags.

>>531583163
...and there it is

>>531583272
Yeah I went there

>>531582848
>>531582992
It *might* explain why she was treated like an outsider in the last village she was at. I feel like she would've made mention of this detail in her story about the piano in town square, so I'm not too inclined too think it was a human village.

How large is the age gap between Kris and Asriel anyways

>>531583362
How would we know

>>531583362
>>531583407
It's implied to be around 5 - 7 years.
>source: it feels right

>>531583362
Kris doesn’t age because he’s just a colored-in vessel and not an actual living being

>>531583362
I think it's 3 years at most. Toriel's dialogue sort of implies Asriel has only been in college for around a year, and that Kris is close to going to college as well, but there's a distinct age gap between Noelle and Dess at the least, and we know Asriel is around the same age as Dess. I would put Kris at around 15/16 years old and Asriel at 19/20 going by the information we have

>hometown
>population density makes it a hamlet, actually

>>531583362
Kris is six years older than Asriel but Kris keeps getting held back from graduating

>>531583362
5 years, 2 months, 2 weeks, 5 days, 7 hours, 32 minutes and 15 seconds

>>531583643
i'll be just like kris in two years!

>>531583478
No I think you might be right
>Burgerpants is 19 in Undertale and he, Bratty and Catty all seem older in Deltarune like how Monster Kid got aged up
>Asriel is apparently the same age as the other young adult characters in Hometown
>Kris is like 16-17-ish

How come we stopped letting Susie use Red Buster, that shit would have helped on the Titan.

>>531583768
can't wait for us to recruit the pyramid of titans by giving them freedom sauce

>>531583632
Hamlets don't have churches.

I think the soul juice tastes like red licorice and cough syrup... is that what they call freedom sauce?

>>531583841
not enough tp, also gerson dualbuster
weird that she didn't get it against the knight though, specially when she doesn't ACT after talking once just like in the fight against king

>>531583768
I want that big bastard in my Castle Town, I want him as my wacky roommate.

>>531583968
then it's a homlyet

>>531583991
I aasume Kris was blocking it, like how he prevented Dual Heal. Its weird that Dual Heal changes in chapter 4 though. And X-Slash never ever again I guess.

I am still waiting for the Kris x Vessel part 3

>>531584015
NO NO THE TITAN IS TO SCAIREY THE HOAROR

>>531582848
she wasn't allowed to play the piano in her old town because of who she was and she had weird specific animosity for kris. its very possible

>>531583632
>>531583968
Then it's a village. Unless there's hundreds or thousands of monsters we just don't see.

>>531584141
i hope ralsei gets his own fire-based version rude buster, so now both helping characters can both heal and attack with strength
also to diferentiate him from noelle

>>531584154
What, my dumb greentexts about mentally toying with Kris until he agrees to (you)r desires?

>>531575367
Indefinite singular they is very old.
Definite singular they (i.e. for specific individuals, not general statements or hypothetical scenarios) is less than twenty years old and you will not find anyone using it before 2005, not even for nonbinary people.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Singular_they#Use_for_specific,_known_people,_including_non-binary_people

>>531575727
It's novel but at this point I'd say it's well within the consensus.

>>531584271
that was because susie is the monster version of blatinx

>>531584426
utg-to-reddit communication

>>531584302
I'd estimate the monsters we see are about a third of the population, so it's definitely a village or a settlement town. The infrastructure is eerily similar to the old mining towns in america from 1890 - 1920, but with more modern tech and establishments obviously.

>>531584537
>eerily similar to the old mining towns in america
what were they mining at the bunker

It’s called the shelter, actually.
Get it right.

>>531584705
Shadow Crystals

>>531584795
I dont even know what this means

>>531584271
>because of who she was
To me it seems more like a lot of her childhood issues come from not reading social cues
Singing "wrong" at the church and people getting mad at her is another

>>531582848
Oh fuck is that why she thinks everybody bleeds?

I still think she bleeds because she's part skeleton because shes Gaster's kid

>>531584890
Her whole deal is defiance of societal norms so thats probably the case.

>>531584773
shelter
shell-tear
like an egg cracking open

>>531584927
Gaster is an egg, not a skeleton. Hes a font like t he skeletons because their ethnicity is Calcium

>>531585009
Brabo Tovy

>>531584890
this is i think the most obvious reading of it but theres enough wiggle room. the newest girl post has noelle point out that for no reason susie really fucking has it out for kris. and it could be because of the shampoo lol, but there's a bit there if you want to look for it, i think

kris has a weird relationship with their humanity so it could easily crop up later as a theme, is the main reason i think it could be the case.

>>531585009
sasuga toby-sensei

>>531585009
An egg weeping
And from those bitter waters, something grew
It looked like glass

>>531584992
Susie and Kris both have oppositional defiant disorder

how many children are kris and susie going to have

Would you prefer to be able to communicate with Kris,

>OR

Do you prefer that you keep each other in the dark?

I love this thread

>>531585275
Humans and monsters cant have children, stupid

>>531583750
Pizzapants is such a loser I bet he hung out with Azzy despite being a few years older. Brattys animosity also makes more sense if she's pissed at Mike being 21 and going after heckin problematic age gaps with 18 year olds

>>531584312
Exactly that one, yes

Toby Fox is Japanese.

>>531585424
They can with enough determination

>>531584308
Ralsei doesnt get fire magic because he's not a real gote

>>531585452
i have a friend that loves that image
i think he starts lurking at these hours
if you're reading this you're a faggot but also a good friend

>Gerson and Alvin are named after two Super Smash bros players who turtled during a tournament
How the fuck did I never hear about this before now? Alvin's been in this game since chapter 1.

Asriel tongue kissing Kris purely platonically to teach Kris how to do it when the time comes
>you'll do great buddy, i can tell you're a natural

>>531585178
I think it could be like this
>Susie's sort of autistic and ends up not reading social cues and making mistakes that get her yelled at
>From her perspective this is people not saying anything but still expecting her to know what they want from her
>Therefore, when people are quiet and don't say anything she starts feeling threatened, left out or judged
>In other words Quiet people piss her off and Kris is very quiet

>>531584890
Susies monstrous voice singing/roaring would stand out in any choir

>>531585630
I don't know anyone that may lurk on this general, it's only (Me)

>>531585009
shelter kelter

Dess tongue kissing Noelle purely platonically to teach Noelle how to do it when the time comes
>you'll do great lil sis, i can tell you're a natural

>>531584705
>ralsei has that shelter dog rizz
>shelter
motherfucker

>>531585876
I'm gonna miss Punk Dess when we see what she really looked like.

>>531586013
well there wont be one for you you little cat shit

>>531586000
it would be so funny if that dumb theory about her shoes turned out to be true and toby left it as a red herring so he could farm hot tomboy deer art for a year

>>531585178
The shampoo is clearly not the reason. Susie would have a reason to sniff Kris in the first place to find out she smells like apples.

>>531581215
hot

I didn’t realize Toby was so involved in the Pokémon Scarlet and Violet soundtrack
https://youtu.be/ijKG0HMP6dQ?feature=shared

Kris tongue kissing Noelle purely platonically to teach Noelle how to do it when the time comes
>More tongue, Noelle. You'll need a lot more practice with me
Dess beat Kris almost unconscious that day

>>531585536
>toby fox is japanese anagram of toy box asian pee jsfa
JSAF: Jevil (and) Spamton Aren't Free
asian pee was used as a tool against yokais in the middle ages
toy box
something holding a toy inside a box
the devil's tail from chapter 5 is an old toy being held by a would-be yokai and if you don't get the jevilstail and the dealmaker you can't get it
holy shit toby why would you drop a leak this big in here of all places

>Susie finds out she's a replacement for Dess and has a fight with Noelle.
>Fortunately they makeup and have unprotected sex.
>Weeks pass.
>Noelle finds out she's pregnant.
>Noelle refuses to get rid of the baby.
>Carol disowns Noelle, kicking her out and cutting her off financially.
>Susie and Noelle drop out of school.
>Noelle, a proven olympic level athelete, turns down several sports scholarships and the chance to represent her nation in the 100m sprint.
>Everyone in Hometown sympathizes with Susie and how she is sacrificing her future for the child.
>No one says much to Noelle other than admonishing her for having premarital sex.
>Their child is born the same day Rudy dies.
>Susie becomes a salaryman and Noelle lives as a housewife.
>Its a dull unfulfilling life.
>Jockington ends up living Noelles dream and takes gold in the 202X Summer 100m sprint.
>Berdly wins the silver medal in the 200m.
>Kris marries Dess (revived) but they both do not keep contact with anyone from Hometown including Noelle or Susie.
>In Deltarune II we are introduced to Susie and Noelles child, now a teenager, but she's shortly killed by a half-asleep truck driver.

Catty tongue kissing Noelle purely as a gag while she's doing homework with Catti

the shelter group chat got leaked

https://chartcarr.neocities.org/secretbase_5
>Oh right, right! I also appeared in that game as a character. I was a pirate with a green coat who only showed up in a few side quests and would also join the party for a little bit. The character's animation was extremely fast, and it accurately portrayed the real me who is always restless and never calm. This "Green Mage Toby", has the ability to put enemies in an "irritated state" during battles, which also shows my younger brother-like personality. Additionally, the name of the main character (who just used the default player sprite) was named Ralse. Later, I took the name "Ralsei" from this character, and used it in another game I created.
Ralsei WILL get more magic to irritate the enemies, have faith in Toby

>>531586428
SUCH INSIGHT

>>531586625
Good ending

>>531586191
Area Zero and the final boss theme are the best tracks in that game so thank goodness Game Freak likes him.

no one tongue kissing pizzapants nor truly or platonically because nobody wants to teach him how to do it
>i wonder if i would split my head open on the pavement if i dropped myself from this rooftop

>>531586000
Would you a bitch Dess?

>>531586625
ok, what did kris say?

>>531585373
supposed "herbivore" Noelle Holiday caught on tape eating a beef hamburger

>>531586645
i wanna rawdog this ralsei and then punch his stomach when we're both almost at climax so he cums all over himself

>>531586824
"dess nuts"

>>531586783
>Do a flip!

>>531585634
I love video games

>>531586934
Does that work?

>>531586990
Who was the fourth player that Toby scorned from getting immortalized?

>>531586842
Maybe it's the Impossible Whopper

>>531586990
how did someone even notice this

Azzy tongue kissing Mike as a bro just so theyll know what to do when the time comes
>hey lil buddy, its not what it looks like

>>531587046
i recall a video of a twink getting fucked from behind and basically inciting the other guy to punch his stomach so he falls down into the bed from the punch while the guy keeps fucking him, dunno if that made him cum harder or at all

>>531587070
Fourth player is Marka, who is probably Mrs. Boom.

Ralsei is a kid.

>>531587235
I did not want to jerk off this early damn it

kiddo

>>531587235
giwtwm

Helping pizzapants practice kissing for her date with pizzerina

Ralsei gooners are batshit insane

>>531587343
Ralsei is a thing.

I LOVE TENNA!!!!! I LOVE TV!!!!!!!!

>>531587572
nicecream...

Men only want one thing and it's disgusting

Deltarune has gotten gayer with every single chapter. I assume chapter 7 will be the gayest thing of all time.

>>531587572
you have now unbricked your save

>ralsei is a kid
No, Ralsei is a sex object.

>>531587752
Peak gay was still the acid tunnel of love.

I'm straight but I'd tongue kiss Pizzapants

<3

>kiddo...
>your mom has a family...
>maybe you should start acting like it?

>>531587826
You couldnt push Ralsei around while he squeaked like you could in chapter 3 though.

>>531587642
can i get a mizzle made out of pepsi?
diet pepsi if possible

Ralseifags don't hate Ralsei btw

>>531586990
>Alvin is the one who won the tournament
Alvin Knighters are we back???

>>531588005
I relate to Ralsei and I hate myself

>>531587752
You will be forced to see Noelle and Susie sex

>>531588176
OH NO?!

>>531587752
in chapter 6 when you separate from the group like in ch2 susie will jerk ralsei off and make him cum ontop of her panties, raising them up and covering herself again
neither of them ever mention it in the rest of the playtrough in any route, ever

You know, I haven't seen anyone talk about this, but Jevil and Spamton don't turn to stone in other Dark Worlds. Granted, those two are usually in their item forms, but being in your inventory doesn't prevent Darkners from turning to stone, as seen with Lancer in the weird route. Does having greater knowledge of how Dark Worlds function allow you to bypass certain rules? That would explain why specifically Jevil, Spamton, and Ralsei never turn to stone.

>>531587603
???

>ominous_stab_harsh.ogg
>ominous_stab_harsh_2.ogg
What the fuck is this? Are these sounds ever used in-game?

>>531585124
>Ralsei "absorbs extra calcium" from the watercooler

Does this confirm he's actually the Gaster descendant and not Susie

>>531588363
Where do I find women built like this

Why did he spoil this lmao

>>531585630
is that Tam? is she drawing again or is that drawing just old?

SUSIE, STOP! RALSEI IS JUST A GOONABLE OBJECT!

>>531585009
Nah
I think he's going for Animal shelter because Kris is somehow a dog

>>531588474
Twentyfive years ago at your local hot topic

>>531588286
my reading was always that darkners with a specific purpose to be in the current darkworld don't petrify; e.g. lancer being a character in tenna's tv games, jevil and spamton being armor or weapons

>>531588474
Your local restaurant.

>>531588362
Aren't those used for the weird route Noelle scene for the flower/flower stem explosion

>>531588508
Chapter 5 was supposed to release with ch3&4

>>531583362
Asriel is in his first semester of college and Kris is in high school so I would estimate 2-3 years?

>>531588575
You can still see them today. Just more crazy.

I didn't expect to see more than one rudyxcarol drawing

>>531588442
while we're at it on ch4 flavor text, can we consider how ralsei can apparently create ''toothpaste''?
>>531588529
oldie from e621 it seems, idk if she's drawing now