Thread 532455149

>Sagat Gameplay Trailer
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fH8E6KwHLZ8&ab_channel=CapcomChannel

>Year 3 Characters Reveal Trailer
https://youtu.be/ooMm_xsRRyw

>Patch Notes for Season 3
https://www.streetfighter.com/6/buckler/battle_change/202506

>The official Capcom Pro Tour website is live
https://sf.esports.capcom.com/cpt/

>High level replays
https://replaytheater.app/?game=sf6

>Street Fighter 6 Frame Data
https://ultimateframedata.com/sf6/
https://fullmeter.com/fatonline/#/calculators

>SuperCombo Wiki
https://wiki.supercombo.gg/w/Street_Fighter_6

>Fighting Game Glossary
https://glossary.infil.net/

>Use Fightcade to play ST, A2, A3, 3S, CVS2, etc.
https://www.fightcade.com/

Last Round: >>532412363

Is CPT NA WEST today? The fuck? how is nobody talking about it. When is it supposed to start?

SF6 should have an "Xism" type option for boomers that hate the drive system

tyler gonna take one foot in the bh and get sissified by mai for his pitiful mr

My FUARKING hero

to all the haters
t1 hit master
...and is 1200...

>>532455257
Yea but call them v-systems

>>532455196
at best he buys Sagat because people told him to and he finds ranking up through plat and diamond more comfy

>>532455257
based blanka

pretty funny that he's seething about being one-and-done'd
wasn't he just mocking that before?
or did he change his mindset about it now

>>532455486
>pretty funny that he's seething about being one-and-done'd

>playing modern
>expecting rematches

Tyler1 is a textbook example why it's always better to suggest classic to beginners over modern.

No way Tyler actually thinks he can get rank 1 or even Legend.

>>532455303
that one dude who posts that one avatar chestpiece picture with that one smol MR copypasta won

>>532455554
he just has the absolute worst mindset about learning
nothing to do with modern

Tyler1 is a textbook example of why it's perfectly fine to gatekeep and a community shilling soulless business attempts to increase their sales by dumbing a game down is self destructive

Freefalling to 1k

Nigga lost all his good neuch buttons and is getting washed now. Can you drop below 1k?

this ken is od

>>532455720
>Can you drop below 1k?

Reddit was pretty pissed when they found out tyler1 hit master, I wonder if they're making a celebration thread now that he's sunk so low after hitting master.

>>532455861
people call /sfg/ bad but reddit is rookie, iron, bronze and silver combined into one place

that ken walk up throw lmao

>hit master
>60 lose streak

MY FUARKING HERO

They are removing Lily for the newcomers group pic because she is the least popular.

Ingrid will descend when /sfg/ needs her the most.

>>532456320
Good riddance.

t1 master session results
12-55

>>532456320
how bad you have to flop as a character to be stalin'd?

>>532456320
Evil Lily will save Lily

Who's the next e-celeb that should play our game?

>Eagle was the joke character
>gief being a faggot was a inside joke about wrestling him being a bear/bara
>Juri got retconed from liking tits to just being a fucking loser
>Marisa is this
Drawn by development team…
Eternity was the warning sign
SF is compromised

>>532456510
Can't wait for ING to remove throw loops and add in the new groove system for all characters

>>532456960
mellanie monroe

>>532456710
She's tied to the absolute least popular SF2 character and has the most basic baby incomplete gameplay in a sliming roster.

The people have spoken, we want T.Hawk

>>532456320
>even kimberly made it in
grim

My wife and her lickable tummy.

>>532456320
she was never there to begin with anon.
That artwork never had lily….
But you are right that she isn’t used
The vtuber cup(had lily in Outift 3)
Latest Capcom merch in Japan only has outfit 3 lily. Despite that it seems only NAKYAMA is the one who kinda shills old Lily designs sometimes, he really is the father of all the SF6 newcomers

>>532456320
but luke isn't a newcomer

>>532456960
it's her time
>can take 1000 cumshots
>wont be deterred by losing 1000 times

>>532457349
Who would she main?

>subhumans in here dont even actually care about the games, just the narratives they can mentally illy spin about it
>thats why nothing on cpt na west

>>532457232
>>532456320
Lily could've easily been that cute mascot character that they ended up doing with Juri

this coon snake eyez is annoying you guys were right I always forget why I dont watch him

>>532457449
modern manon

>>532457516
Well Juri is safer(aka she sells) and her VA was willing to come in and voice them too. Lily is a risk and playtests probably had her less picked anyways. She really is a T.hawk but girl and as much as I wanna fuck her, she ain’t coming back. Also doesn’t help she’s less fun than Juri, despite both girls being mega carried

>Reddit gets hit with a truth nuke
>immediate seethe and cope
>even down syndrome folks getting offended

can I have one non frustrating GAME PLEASE?
why are there so many fucking Mai's and Giefs on today?

>>532457714
>guy has a crazy ability to learn
what would it look like if he actually labbed and put in effort?

Nobody is Juri tier, but would you say any Dix newcomer is at least on par with Viper or Menat?

>>532457872
>guy has a crazy ability to learn
>the so called learning according to redditors is pic related

Ill still never understand why Idom didnt play Kimberly, other than JP, which he cant play for whatever reason, shes the next most obvious combo mixup, setplay character in the game.

>>532456320
If lily had better gameplay she'd be a lot more warmly received

>>532457882
not really no, i think even the most popular newcomers will fall off and be forgotten as they add more genuinely popular characters to the game

>>532457882
The masses love Manon

>>532457938
GAWDLIKE NOOCH

>>532457882
Ehhhhhhhh
maybe aki, I don’t count her fraudulent vote win since Capcom PHYSICALLY PUT RANDOM SELECT AS THE DEFAULT VOTING CHOICE.
But just AKI and I guess Mai if you want to remove her guest status. But it’s
>aki
>JP
>Marisa/LukeJamie
>manon
>lily
I seriously believe aki will be in SF7. She’ll be the hold over if Luke is fully dropped for a new black protag

>>532458082
Don't quote me on this but I'm pretty sure Idom despises black people.

>>532457882
>Viper
sexy
>Menat
sexy
>dixx newcomers
the opposite of sexy
case closed

>>532458105
I’m actually shocked her wind stocks don’t improve her grab range or make her fly
I for sure thought her her gimmick would be wind movement but I guess Nakayamas pet sand nigger rashit(notice how’s near lily and dhalism levels of use too) was suppose to be the one.

>>532458325
Laura was like 1 skin tone away from being black dawg. maybe 2

viper is not popular

>>532457453
Trash ass region, why would anyone give a fuck

>>532458282
Any man with a working cock doesn’t like black women lol
It’s not racism, they just aren’t appealing or attractive unless you see supermodels or Instagram crafted sluts for rich men.
You’ll never get a girl next door vibe from the average Kimberly irl, but you will find a cute Asian or white or even Latino girl

>>532457714
These bitter scrubs hardstuck below master are either casuals, lazy or don't play that much.
Any midwit can quickly reach master with a little practice and youtube tutorials, no excuses

>>532458160
/sfg/ loves Manon, too!

will he grind to high master?

If my dog ass can get Chun to master all the way from bronze
Anybody can do it. It’s not hard, you just need time and some persistence. And maybe a few matches in Diamond 5 that give some bonus points.
Anyways next up is manon…I just hope I don’t get a gief tonight

>>532458398
what?

>>532458905
Laura’s hair was blacker than my penis is what he means one tone darker and she’d be a sista.

>>532458795
>will he learn the game after playing 2.5k matches of mashing the autocombo button?

I can already tell that Ingrid is gonna win next year's art contest because the candidate is gonna be Tetsu's art.

Watching Ryu just spam hadokens while my controller unplugged... how sad

So did Snake Eyez win his CPT or what? Who won? For the non mindless eceleb obsessed niggas that actually watch the fucking game competitively, only asking through Snake Eyez because hes literally the only reason I knew there was a CPT today when scrolling my twitch feed

>>532459154
He fucking better win. Bro had this up asap when he heard there was an art contest years before she was announced.

>>532459329
>snake_eyez
>not e-celeb
shut your bitch ass up. when was the last time that little faggot ever went to an actual tournament? just sits at home eating while watching real players play

>Lily Hawk
>Juri Han
>not making her an evil mexican puta

>>532459597
beautiful tanden tummy......

>design shortstack latina with the fattest juiciest ass and thighs possible
>....age 17 years 364 days 23 hours 59 minutes and 59 seconds

>Zangief
>Zangief
>Ryu
>Mai
>Modern A.K.I
>Modern Gief
>Zangief

You know what, fuck this game. Every single fighting game that exist is better than this slop gay game.

i would pay to see snakeeyez, lowtiergod, and rico suave oiled up in speedos playing sf together.

>>532459415
What the hell are you fucking talking about retard? I just explained to you how my asking about the tournament results isnt an eceleb obsession where i am posting tyler 1s rank every fucking second and crafting narratives about learning at fighting games.

Fucking kill yourself or learn to read retard, holy fuck.

boughted season 3 character pass

Anyway, so who won CPT NA West? Did Snake Eyez even get to the finals? Peeked at his stream for like a second and he was seething about Zangief being weak and the game being totally unskilled, but despite that he can't win shit lol. And i say this as somebody who dislikes the game, but the way Snake Eyez complains about it, is so self aggrandizing.

>>532460070
google it you dumbass nigga we aint spoonfeeding you

Snake eyes is just pathetic at this point. Why has this 40 year old man dedicated his life to bitching endlessly about zangief being low tier

>>532460146
gift me bro, if youre stupid enough to spend $40 (maybe like $25 for you if youre american i guess) on that, then you can bless me some

>>532460195
>>532460221
I miss when this retard just played Gief, attended tournaments, and NEVER opened his mouth.

>>532460221
thats not even the worst part, its that he has done it EVERY season, but had to shut up for a while once itazan and mena were placing high in big tourneys with him.
but now that season 3 has had semi meaningful nerfs, he can go back to pretending the only reason hes losing is because zangief sucks, and that hed totally be good if the game was skilled or whatever.
i dont really care, he deserves it for his retarded bum ass takes of sf5 while dickriding the fuck out of the broken garbage mess that was sf4. most blatant "old man cant get over games from his younger days" shit ever.

What do you guys think about 801strider? Handsome, buff, good at SF, gay, even more gay, super fucking gay.

>>532460315
sent

snake eyez beat viscant

>>532460829
ermm....where?

WW US West is too stacked. There is at least 3 pro players in each pool bracket. I went 0-2 as usual.

>>532461183
atleast you tried bro, atleast you tried, gotta count for something

>>532461183
>Not hacking like all these so called "pros"
LOL!

>>532455149 (OP)
funny pic

>>532455196
>new champ
</3

>>532462527
i am this

THESE ARE THE LEVEL OF DIFFICULTIES OF TOURNAMENTS AND EVENTS YOU GUYS ARE NOT GONNA TELL ME WHO SIT ON YOUR ASS AND DONT PLAY AND JACK OFF IM NOT ARGUING WITH YOU IDIOTS

S LEVEL EWC CAPCOM CUP SFL
A+ EVO EVO JAPAN
F WORLD WARRIORS NOT REAL STREET FIGHTER AT ALL ON GOD

>>532455257
it would immediately be the perferred way to play so thats not happening. People who need their superpowers will be mad that Vintage control users can just wall them out and invincible DP through their drive rush throw setups

Christ vs the gawdigy

>>532463173
yep he kino.

>>532457714
how many actual games did it take tyler to hit master? Is that sort of things tracked by his schizos? And what would be the "Average" number of games?

>washed and fraudulent illiterate noises
hm?

ingrid knights assemble

>>532463369
Lol this nigga put mickey cup above Evo because his bum ass got a joke path to top 8, then got cooked. Evo >>> all

>>532463495
wtf he really losing to his cammy?

noah 3-0'd chrisT. das rite

4 matches today and everyone literally just walked back and didnt press anything besides the chun who just did fireball drive rush
i hate this retarded ass game

snake eyes talks like piratesoftware lmao

be patient lil crabba

>>532464352
what does that mean

CHESTO!

>>532464589
I won't explain

>>532464283
come home, lil pup.

i won because i drive rushed

who the FUCK are these nobodies playing? enzothehokage and samurai?? never won nothing lol

>>532464871
das good neuch.

this game is so fucking dead at 1800+ mr na. 10 legends in the whole US? every other match i get at 1800 is a 1600 or below player.

>>532464283
Time to pick Mai. If they do that, just charge a fan then get in for free.

i really hate my body hair

No i dont want to fucking practice, I just want to be good right away!!

>>532465463
we know gief

newfag doesn't know samurai

just want to let everyone know that i beat filipinoman once in ranked

>>532466393
>jobber that hasn't won anything
loool. see my legend ken, sissy boy!

Today I defeated Daigo

juri the type of girl to take shit at your place and forget to flush

>>532466974
I've beaten a lot of FGC personalities/streamers and some weekly pros. I save the replays and don't delete them to remind myself that I can random out anyone in this game

>>532467417
>updates break replays
heh, didn't happen kid.

>>532465463
for me my body hair is in that weird inbetween where its barely noticeable, but also noticeable enough for me to get triggered whenever i notice it.
when i was much younger, i was much more scared of even growing any body hair, but like I said, because its so barely noticeable, it grew in a way that i didnt notice it, so it didnt freak me out as much.
it was really noticing the hair on my knuckles and the butt hair that had me freaking out the first time i saw them, and every once in a while i notice them, but those two places are places almost nobody, even yourself is ever looking closely at, or even accidentally, so yeah

just had the best gay sex of my life and bout to hop on ranked. jealous?

>>532467629
I can still look at the names it's just grayed out and I can't watch it

>>532467704
GAWDLIKE

Filipino boomer beat Noah

>>532467417
mine wasn't random dude's a bum

He could save SF6.

>>532466974
filipinoman has been hardstuck 1900 since launch

>>532468543
i though he died from being fat

>>532460429
>I miss when this retard just played Gief, attended tournaments, and NEVER opened his mouth.
This, but applied to all pros.

Is this line up a good representation of Street Fighter?

>>532467792
paid actor

DI forecast: fucking horrible i hate this gameee ;_;

if you wait half a second on your own pressure every single elena player will start backwalking

Man I loved watched t1 get butt blasted and devastated as a new master player. Probably the most fun sf6 stream I've seen since launch

>>532463550
He played 2500 games and he got to master with a winrate of 51%

>>532469969
don't call me out like this bro

SF2 = McDonald’s
Sfa = subway
Sf3 = Wendy’s
SF4 = Burger King
SFv= Arby’s
Sf6 = five guys

>>532470712
90's mcdonalds maybe, definitely not current mcdonalds

sf6 is current mcdonalds. smaller portions, way more expensive, worse service

>>532470836
They put the downsized x 10 mcflurries in a piece of folded cardboard now and nixxed the thick plastic spoon, and yet the drive through is always backed out to the road. McDonalds fans are the lowest of the low in terms of fast food enjoyers. Mindbroken pigs.

I beat ChrisCCH b4 as well (in jive)

>>532469743
No but I've beaten him before too

>https://youtu.be/zmzMd1Xik0I?si=hsogWWkK5xukoNsy&t=285
HER GAME
HER THREAD
HER GENERAL
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hVvkFdlY16w

>>532471153
THEY TOOK OUT THE LOW MCTIGERS

sf2: furby
sfa: barbie
sf3: tamagotchi
sf4: trolls
sfv: funko pop
sf6: labubu

>>532471436
MCKEK

dogshit game

SF2 = Elephant Apple
SF0 = Engkala
SF3 = Pinguin
SF4 = Lilli Pilli
SFV= Pandanus
SF6 = Dead Man's Fingers

>>532470712
>OG
>weird spin
>weird but good spin
>good knockoff of OG
>lower quality knockoff of subway
>high quality classics but expensive
this makes too much sense…

sf2: bolognese
sfa: alfredo
sf3: carbonara
sf4: amatriciana
sfv: gricia
sf6: lasagna

You died and you're about to get isekai'd into a Street Fighter game
The last number of your post determines which game
7 8 and 9 get isekai'd into Strive instead

>>532457714
imagine going to forums dedicated to a topic for years while being hard stuck in the entry level ranks that are literally designed to push you to master.
these faggots straight up dont play. they have a lot in common with the posters here. its a reddit colony general after all.

sf1 = Remission
sf2 = Leviathan
sfa = Blood Mountain
sf3 = Crack the Skye
sf4 = The Hunter
sf5 = Once More Round the Sun
sf6 = Emperor of Sand

>>532472824
to be fair, getting to master from zero on classic is harder than modern, especially with certain characters. For example, chun li and cammy players are required to learn all fundamentals along the way. Its not the same, even if they're still slow.

>>532473024
sf7 won't be the same without brent hinds

femboy ahh general

>>532465463
>>532467690
da fuq is wrong wit some of u niggas, scared of yo own ass body hair soft ah generation

>>532473319
It is now that you're here. Now bend over.

>>532473316
7 will be Hushed and Grim so there will be some traces of him still. 8 will be the test of can Capcom survive without him though.

WOOO SF6 SOLD 100000000000000000000000 COPIES ON SWITCH 2
THIS TRAIN HAS NO BRAKES
KAMI 6 KAMI 6 KAMI 6

SF2 = The College Dropout
SF0 = Graduation
SF3 = Yeezus
SF4 = Late Registration
SF5 = 808s & Heartbreak
SF6 = My Beautiful Dark Twisted Fantasy

>>532474085
sybau

>>532457872
He really doesn't though. He is good at League of Legends. I don't know much about competitive chess except that it requires 0 mechanical skill and only really requires rote memorisation and dedication. So now this guy hit master in 2 whole months of dedicated practice because gaming is his full time job, and that's somehow impressive? Modern Guile to masters in 2 months is impressive? Where the fuck is this incredible ability to learn? He's just an angry bald retard who tricked a bunch of other retards into thinking he's some kind of savant.

>>532457882
Yeah Kimberly easily. Best newcomer since Rashid in SFV. The others are pretty shit though. I know I'm supposed to be all racist and hate them but they have the most fun gameplay so fuck off.

>>532458082
I don't get why Idom is still talked about like it's SFV. Kinda feels like he needed Laura and isn't a very good player without her.

>>532458082

you wouldn't understand, its about the message

I can't wait for the MR reset, I'm fucking tired of being humiliated in the battlehub when people find out how tiny my MR is. I deserve to have human rights!

>>532474684
It’s only jivers who bring him up, he was hard carried by Laura and V-Trigger
Jivecucks constantly go “SWITCH SWITCH SWITCH”
You think he hasn’t tried? Nigga, nobody likes to lose money. He’s just irrelevant and bitching is the only thing he can do to bring in views now

>>532474863
sf6 really exposed the jive shitters carried by v-mickey
ironic that vappas made fun of punk for years just because he was “new” (he started in sf4) when he was one of the few sfv personalities playing neutral

>>532471153
Yanks arguing over which fast food chain is the best to eventually get diabetes from will always be funny to me.

>>532475184
it is kinda weird how people carried by v trigger couldn't get carried by drive. capcom must have analyzed jive and made a game that is the complete opposite.

>>532475245
nobody's arguing, rajesh. He's literally talking about ice cream.

My assistant aki

>>532474863
This. Also I saw a really good Manon at Blink Respawn in top 8 so that's not even an excuse anymore. People acting like Idom could be one of the best in the world are delusional. He's like in the 200-500 range at best.

>>532475184
>sf6 really exposed the jive shitters carried by v-mickey
What was it about the V-system that carried people? Like what specific mechanics or aspects of it were overpowered?

>>532475342
He's talking about the relative quality of fast food chains in the USA primarily though isn't he?

>>532475254
The V-trigger system is the worst thing to ever happen to SF and SFV is the worst mainline game without including SF1 obviously. Soulless, ugly and with bad system mechanics. When I see people nostalgic about that piece of shit game I'm honestly confused by it.

>>532475254
there were tons of great unassuming changes in sf6 that when coupled together become a huge difference. not more microdick pokes, streamlined normals that chain to themselves into frame traps and combos, no priority, buffed walk speed, nerfed dashes, better movesets, no retarded comeback mechanics like vtrigger, no more white life bullshit and good defensive mechanics. throw loops and raw dr not being punishable enough is holding back this game from legit being the best of all time

>>532475608
Can you explain why the Vtrigger system was bad specifically?

dont fucking reply to me you godamn ESL, just take the L and move on. Stop trying to fucking squeeze out some points out of your misunderstanding, I sentence you to 5 hours of SF6 ranked

I accept your concussion

>>532475653
Sure. It boiled the game down to whoever could land V-trigger first. The entire game revolved around it and it was boring as fuck. Just play neutral till you get V-trigger then whoever lands the first hit in neutral wins. It was awful and extremely boring.

>>532475653
it’s a comeback meter that held back your character for half the match for no reason other than force upsets and please viewers
capcom thought this would have brought more buyers instead it crippled the game within the fans forever and casuals never gave it a chance because it bombed at launch due to no content
sfv was one of the biggest fumbles by capcom ever and sf6 is them correcting course

>>532475620
the comeback mechanic of SF6 is the drive bar. You have to spend it to do damage so if you are outplaying someone, you are forced to slow down and let your drive gauge recover because you're not allowed to just bully people to death anymore. That's a comeback mechanic blended into the game so its not overt.
But there are other comeback mechanics too, like drive impact, perfect parry, no throw protection (allowing people to get lucky and do damage without earning it), no plus frames on anything. Capcom blended the comeback mechanics throughout the entire game to make it so the better player can't just rape someone with frame traps anymore.

You're going to say none of these are comeback mechanics because capcom worked hard to make you feel nice when you use them to come back.

>>532475669
At least have the balls to reply to me you absolute coward. I love how you clearly just default to calling everyone you disagree with an ESL as if you are typing using perfect English. You just sound like some angry American hick who is too cowardly to even reply properly.

>>532474480
shitters gas this whole deal up because they are still hard stuck in platinum SOMEHOW after years of this game being out.
it literally just means they dont play enough while this homunculus actually did put a mild amount of time into it.

>>532475967
>the comeback mechanic of SF6 is the drive bar.
Stopped reading
You jivers are mentally ill victim complex cucks

>>532475967
Everyone gets drive at the start regardless of losing. literally the opposite of comeback meter, your 16er mental gymnastics are pathetic

capcom has successfully made their players think a gutted game where everything is locked behind slime is normal. You don't even know what you lost. Yeah instead of unlocking new moves after getting your ass kicked, your opponent who is kicking your ass loses all his moves.

>>532476065
It's actually baffling though. I'm shit at fighting games but I managed to mash classic Honda to master with one combo in the first week. Literally haven't touched the character since. T1 has ridiculous marketing that's for sure.

viper will have a drive-freezing super

>>532475836
>>532475959
This only applies to a handful of characters though, Vtriggers weren't universal and they did different shit for different characters.

>>532476209
its not that he has good marketing. its just that the retards surrounding this game are just so pathetic that they latch onto a mediocre lol streamer.

>>532476272
do not waste your time on vappas

>>532476272
That's true. All the best characters had a V-trigger that gave them some sort of god mode though. The variety was lacking and there were some choices which were just clearly better.

how did the ancient ones play games without free regenerating meter????

>>532476306
But why though? This guy has been popular for like a decade now and I have absolutely no idea why.

>>532476272
Top tiers all had bullshit vtriggers
And its a shit mechanic regardless
Coupled with the rest of the game (streamlined pokes with no range etc) it made the game very predictable and boring

>>532476375
The nice thing about this is that only some characters had really annoying Vtriggers and it could be individually balanced on a character by character basis. Plus it wasn't just about losing HP, you gained Vmeter by using your Vskill and whatnot as well.

critcisms of SFV from non players are so hilarious man.
especially when its done to defend SF6.

All you did in jive was play neutral until someone got v trigger

now you just start with the v trigger

>>532458325
>Dixx newcomers the opposite of sexy
You're forgetting someone

>>532476621
SFV was a dark era for the franchise between the highs of 4 and 6. It's ok it's you think it's good but that's what it will always be.

NO ONE PLAYS SFV
ITS TIME TO MOVE ON

>>532476685
>All you did in jive was play neutral until someone got v trigger
You could just block the Vtrigger pressure once and be done with it though. Now you deal with that same sort of bullshit pressure that the annoying top tiers in SFV had, except every character has it for the entire round without any real restrictions.

>>532476596
>you gained Vmeter by using your Vskill
tiny gain, vast majority was through damage
even if you could gain v-mickey from v-skill only it would still have been a bad mechanic btw
there’s literally nothing fun about a meter that cripples your character for no reason

>>532476762
get a job

>>532476801
>there’s literally nothing fun about a meter that cripples your character for no reason
Can you name 3 characters that were crippled by not having Vtrigger?

>>532476776
nah people were spamming v trigger cancel every 5 seconds. The capsoldiers told me

>>532476776
Burnout is a pretty massive restriction.

>>532476801
Honestly I feel the same way about Supers, its fucking bullshit that my strongest moves are locked behind a stupid meter and my character is gimped for like 80% of the match. If SF6 was a real game I would have access to all of my supers from the start so I can actually play the game

>>532476879
is that why people regenerate their drive meter as a reward for using the drive system to scam people out?

Burnout only exists to let the nigga getting his ass beat come back against a guy with all his super powers stripped. how is that not a comeback mechanic?
>you gotta manage the drive gauge!
not a fighting game.

>>532476879
>Burnout is a pretty massive restriction.
Kinda crazy that the defender is more at risk of going into burnout than the person using the drive system to go crazy then huh?

>>532476819
I have one. You?

>>532477069
doubt it

SFV is a game where both players get stronger as the match progresses.
SF6 is a game where both players get weaker as the match progresses.
The former is way more SF than the latter btw.

meter was a mistake

>>532477031
If your idea of playing defensively is just sitting there blocking till you lose all your drive gauge then yeah. That is indeed a good mechanic. Have you heard of parries?

>>532476776
>You could just block the Vtrigger pressure once and be done with it though.
>You could just block
>just block
https://youtu.be/SPAH_tjRGzY?t=50
sybau

>>532477202
I honestly agree, I'd probably enjoy SF6 more if they just removed EX moves and the super meters

>>532477223
>Um, actually the drive system doesn't dominate the game at all, have you considered using the drive system to counter it?? Why are you blocking in street fighter?

sf6 players literally dont know how to block, its absurd. They will just try to parry everything and then tell you what was ahrd to block in old games.

>>532477087
Damn you really got me. Nice one exposing yourself as a NEET though.

>>532477286
So your argument is that you want to just entirely

>>532477318
blocking is literally the worst defensive action in SF6 so of course they wont block.
its designed to be retarded like that.
and yes, they didnt know how to block on past games. they would mash into frametraps and die and then whine about it. now they can just rotate their mash and turn around the whole situation.

>>532476939
its so easy to expose sf5 haters.
once you make peace with the fact that everything about sf5 was narratives, you start to understand why sf6 is the way it is, and why the community can be so consistently stupid and wrong about so many things, like thinking perfect parry changes would actually change anything, or thinking throw loops were getting removed, or thinking ed, terry, aki, and mai were weak on release etc.

few are actually intelligent enough to understand what makes the narratives, but its not difficult to understand why they permeate so easily once you consider that getting chatgpt to remember relevant details of your prior message to incorporate into your new message is the equivalent of talking to the average retard on the internet. even with the preprogramming that disallows ai from engaging with certain topics without appealing to its mandated doctrine.

>>532477286
SF6 players literally hate blocking, fireballs, neutral, basically anything SF.

>>532477230
But he did almost block all of the mixup, I'm not really sure what he pressed to get counterhit here, but yeah, if he had managed to block the mixup for like 3 more seconds her Vtrigger would have been over

>>532476854
? Everyone was, some more than others
Vtrigger is fundamentally bad and boring, whether it gave you broken or just slightly better options is not the point.
>>532477160
SFV is a game where you get stronger the more you lose
SF6 is a game where you get stronger the more you win
Ftfy

>>532477286
So your argument is that you just want to entirely ignore the game systems for the game you are playing. Sounds fucking retarded but you do you.

you want to play without relying on drive? How is that even possible? Do wackos like that even exist?

>>532477454
you dont get stronger the more you win.
both losing and winning puts you closer to burnout.
you dont even understand the game you shill.

>>532477454
>Vtrigger is fundamentally bad and boring, whether it gave you broken or just slightly better options is not the point.
Vtrigger was just a more interesting take on Ultras from SF4, and people act like Vtrigger was the entire Vsystem while ignoring how cool Vskills were, or the fact that you would be spending Vmeter on the backdash thing or Vreversals as well.

>>532477449
>But he did almost block all of the mixup
he literally died lmao
jivecucks are so funny man

>>532477440
its actually fucked up how alien they are to the series.
every time something gets raped out of the game they celebrate it.

>>532477563
V reversals are in SF6 as drive reversals.

Any recommendations for a fighting game pad in 2025, for PC and sometimes PS4? I'm too much of a retard to use sticks, and used pic related with reasonable success since SSIV. I tried the new-ish grey version of pic related made for the switch and it's utter garbage.

Should I just cop a new old stock Fighting Commander 4 for like $80 off ebay or has some new stuff come out that's alright?

>>532477536
>>532477476
I barely use the drive system at all aside from parrying fireballs and doing counter DI and I made it to 1600 MR

>>532477651
Except in SF6 they're tied to a meter that automatically regenerates and starts with full bars every round

>>532477614
You're still allowed to block yknow. I do it all the time actually. I just don't sit there for 30 seconds while my opponent hits me until I go into burnout. That'd be a bad strategy.

>>532477685
>Any recommendations for a fighting game pad in 2025
Whatever pad you're most comfortable with using will be the best pad for fighting games for you.
I'm still using Xbox 360 pads to play because its what I've been using since SF4

>>532477563
Vtrigger to Ultra is just SF3 super arts to SF2 supers.
Whining about vtrigger from SF4 drones is extra funny. You just get 50% damage reversals for free in that game.
The only ones who have an actual right to complain are pre-comeback era oldheads.

>>532477563
> Vtrigger was just a more interesting take on Ultras
v-mickey was even more of a dogshit retarded comeback meter than ultras were and the bar was high with Elena’s healing stfu
> and people act like Vtrigger was the entire Vsystem while ignoring how cool Vskills were
the amazing assetflip vskills that were 99% neutral skips such as………..juris ryodansatsu LMAO
>vmeter on the backdash
that shit was shovelware tier LMAO
>vreversals
only good mechanic in SFV, coincidentally ripped off from alpha.

>>532477820
>v-mickey was even more of a dogshit retarded comeback meter than ultras
Objectively incorrect

>>532477768
blocking is objectively the worst defensive tool.

It is genuinely so fucking crazy where we had entire generations where whiffing buttons in neutral was considered a kind of silly but legitimate strategy to build up meter, but suddenly SF5 comes along and actually having to HIT or RISK taking damage and get hit, got turned into a narrative where "you get rewarded for losing" while Elena in SF4 just stands in the corner mashing buttons so she can heal every 15 seconds and SF4 IS GAWDLIKE HARDCORE COMPLEX STRATEGIC DEEPEST FIGHTING GAME ever.
I do not understand what must be done to the populace to erase narratives. I am thinking we need another holocaust for the stupid or Soviet/Mao China tier mass re-education. Which both countries failed at for not going hard enough on it.

>>532477698
Same. Got two characters in master and I'm going for all of them. Barely ever use drive rush as the opponent is usually jumping or spamming buttons anyway so it doesn't do much to help. It's just a way for me to use EX moves and extend combos when I wanna dump the meter and try and end the round.

ultras not being able to be cancelled into would make them ultimate difficult advanced techniques today.

Think about that.

>>532477864
only turd strike has meter gain on button whiff.
elena was abusing focus attack backdash (terrible mechanic)

>>532477913
Honestly it would be funny if the devs just came out and said "okay actually we're removing gattling jabs, you'll have to link your jab strings now, they don't cancel into each other for free mash combos"
This would destroy 99% of the new players

>>532477859
Yes I know. That's why you have parries, reversals and so on... if you don't AA or check your opponent's offense at any time then why even play...

Dont let the contrarian KusoV cultists (who didn’t even play it during its “prime”) from distracting you from the fact that KusoV was a flopped mickey game that was so bad it ended up having 0 legacy and losing to literal kusobeg games like Sailor Moon in 202t tournaments

>>532478037
yeah man people had no reason to play the 30 year old legacy series until they added clown mash mechanics into 6.

>>532478038
How many entrants did the Ultra Street Fighter 4 tournaments get after SFV came out?

>>532477864
Contrarianism basically. Plus nostalgia. I loved 4 back in the day but people back then hadn't figured out just how broken it was.

>>532477963
>only turd strike has meter gain on button whiff.
i was factoring in sf3 too to be fair

>>532478098
none because tournaments were heavily incentivized by capcom to switch over to Rushed Fighter V and usher in the age of esports.

>>532478098
09ers claimed it was a conspiracy and that capcom was paying tournament organizers to not host sf4 lmao

>>532478094
Go and play SF2 then if you want such a "pure" game. Your arguments are just boring and tedious and it's clear you're just bitter and want to hate everything.

>>532478180
why did the amazing SF4 community not hold their own tournaments?
SF2 and 3 players manage to do that to this day.

SF3 third strke and USF4 are not even close to the same era of players and you just lumped together as two "old games" because you didnt play, you just saw a video on elena healing by rooflemonger. Nobody was worried about elena in SF3

>>532478243
absolute shiteater post

>>532478098
More than Sailor Moon lmao

>>532478251
You need pot monsters for a tournament, not just enthusiasts. Most people are sheep and will just play the latest game, so its hard to get most people in the fgc to play a previous game no matter how good it is, plus at the time we thought SF5 was going to be good, we didn't know how rushed it was.

>>532478317
According to the leader of the biggest USF4 community, it struggled to get even 8 entrants to show up for tournaments

>>532478278
>SF3 third strke and USF4 are not even close to the same era of players
is he retarded?

Jive is dead forgotten and buried by everyone. Nobody talks about it unlike literally every other entry of the series
Even its story is seen as a spinoff lol

>>532478373
actual enthusiast tournaments for older games still exist.
they dont exist for SF4.

>>532478430
you are retarded if you claim otherwise.
SF3 is an oldhead game. SF4 is not.
09ers are not and will never be oldheads like SF2, Alpha and 3 players.

does the nigga think old people dont exist? that the average lifespan is like 20 years? fucking dumbass

>>532478298
Sucks to be called out I know. Hope you don't feel too bad for the rest of the day.

09ers maingame was watching gootecks and mike ross.
now its whining about SFV.

>>532478538
Yaeh, SF4 isn't retro enough and isn't played by people who want to play something old. Plus you have to buy it to play it which is a huge wall for old games. Also, the online is laggy, all these things limit the growth of a new generation of players.

>>532478657
>Also, the online is laggy
This is a big part of the issue with SFV and SFIV, they both have terrible netcode and would really benefit from an update that gave them the same sort of netcode that they have in SF6

>>532478429
That was when DutyV was still going, nowadays KAMI4 gets in tournaments over kusoV despite being much older. …Curious!!

>>532478373
Exactly. There's no way in a million years that people will all just keep playing the old SF unless it's just straight up unfunctional. If SF7 releases and it has PS2 era graphics and the online doesn't work then yeah, everyone would stay on 6. People move on to new things.

>>532478773
I don't think you even played SF4 or SFV

>>532478791
SF6 might be the end of the line, IDK how they can mickify it even more unless its forced Modern.

>>532478631
I wonder what happened to that nice Gootecks fellow who I used to watch on YouTube as a teenager. Hope he's doing alright.

>>532478889
>unless its forced Modern.
To be fair, that was originally the plan with SF6, so I wouldn't be surprised if the next game doesn't have classic controls

I despise avatards so fucking much, such subhumans. Genuinely cannot even be human to have so little stalwart identity of ones own to communicate without deferring to another, fundamentally artificial, superficial representation, containing so little that it can barely be called an identity itself, I think thats the real thing. Its masking a void of identity, with the appearance of something which contains identity, like putting blank sheets of paper in a see through binder.

>>532478889
Yeah I agree. SF7 will try and make modern the default and ruin SF forever as a result. So bored of the narrative around that shit. "Oh you think modern is strong? You must be a noob, it's not like many top players have discovered how broken it is and even won tournaments with it."

>>532478906
he's doing fine actually.
cant get a former gay porn salesman down that easily.

this character is too damn fun

Unpopular opinion: Gootecks was the fun personality behind Excellent Adventures, not Mike Ross
Watching Gootecks seethe about Jews conspiracy theories and Mike Ross trying to change the topic to salvage his sponsors was peak

2xkO will unironically save us copium. I will learn a tag fighter for the first time ever copium.
Riot definitely did not make a mistake making a tag fighter that makes their miniscule amount of characters feel even smaller copium.
On a real note. Niggas complaining about perceived animation faults, especially when its mostly a direction "problem". Are retarded. Tired of this retarded modern day trend of obsessing more over the appearance, and air of "sophistication" and "polish" in presentation of VIDEOGAME over the gameplay itself.
Can Tag Fighters even have honest neutral footsies btw? Wtf is riot thinking? Also how the fuck are they going to handle monetization when it takes THIS long to come up with new champions. And seemingly 90% of their time spent from the alpha lab till now, was redrawing super animations to appease dumb fuck retards who are only so "intelligent" that they can criticize the superficial appearance of something who's only prerequisite for being critical is basic observation that doesnt even need any actual critical thinking, just a check for whether it feels traditional, or typical.

Took me 20 years bros but I finally can agree.
Chun-Li is the hottest street fighter girl

>>532479343
if you want to bet on a tag fighter you are much more likely to get a decent year or two of activity with tokon at least.
project lel is dead.

>>532457882
With the possibility that future DLC for 6 slots might be filled with any of these characters, the characters that have appeared in every other game (minus Third Strike) are
>SF1
Ryu, Ken, Sagat
>SF2
The entire roster minus Fei Long and T.Hawk
>Alpha
Sakura, Rose
>Third Strike
lol. The closest would be Alex and Elena, who have made the most appearances since, but they haven't appeared in every consecutive game after like everyone else on this list
>SF4
Juri
>SF5
Ed, Rashid
>SF6
Luke, Jamie and Manon are apparently really popular so I wouldn't be surprised if they came back

>>532479291
Gootecks was the one who kicked it all off. I saw an interview with Mike the other day and he even confirmed it. Gootecks came up with the idea and the name Cross Counter. Mike didn't even wanna appear on camera at all until Gootecks convinced him. Unironically the guy probably did more to get people into the FGC than anyone else from the SF4 era.

https://www.eventhubs.com/news/2025/jul/23/nintendo-switch-2-sales-record/

>When digital sales accounted for, SF6 is actually 6th in the switch game rankings as opposed to further down from just physical sales

I'm beginning to feel like a LukeGAWD LukeGAWD

>>532479343
I just really fucking hate tag fighters. I tried them, it's not for me. Too spazzy and I don't like being juggled for like 30 seconds every time I get touched.

>>532479890
>being juggled for like 30 seconds every time I get touched.
This. Is the real problem, no amount of timeouts can make a game have neutral with this shit

FUCK RASHIT
AINT NOBODY LIKES THAT WACK ASS SAND NIGGA

>>532427338
>tyler1 after a single master rank session
Wow who could've seen that coming? (me because I actually play the game)

>>532480239
For someone completely new to the game mid 1200s is perfectly reasonable

>>532480239
that anon better be here prostrating first thing tomorrow

>>532457882
Menat is a literal who

>>532480339
Sure, it's impressive to do within 100 hours of your first fighter, he has an aptitude for learning. It's where he belongs though, essentially diamond 6 tier.

>>532481197
ah yeah but viper is lmao

Insane how fucked up the MR distribution is in Japan. Feel like T1 really would maintain 1500 over there

>>532480078
It gets to the point where you get bored of holding block. Then inevitably the combo ends in a reset and you're stuck watching the screen holding back waiting for a whiffed combo which never comes.

>>532480339
What happened to his incredible game learning superpowers? Did he lose them somehow? I thought this guy was some kind of video game prodigy, why is in a lower MR bracket than most players who make it to masters ever even get down to?

>>532481416
It's genuinely like a 300mr boost compared to Europe

I hate pc cucks

I was in the battlehub having a quickie with Li Fen in one of the back rooms but apparently it was a studio and we were being broadcast to the big tv the entire time. Now I'm banned for life but li fen's honor is safe because all you could see on the screen was my fat ass and her dangling legs

>>532480229
I do but the new art of him looks like every other portrait he has. Wish someone would make one that was various shades of brown and yellow

>>532482201
wasn't*

>>532482954
id prefer if you didnt doxx me lil nigga

When the fuck is the Sagat gameplay breakdown thing they do

he's gonna turn green and mash jinrai whats there to break down

>>532482954
You just know this dude bought the game just to make Mai's costume 3 jiggle back and forth in the vs screen

>>532481619
>What happened to his incredible game learning superpowers?
What are you on about, 1100-1200 is diamond 5 level so he's pretty much at the right bracket

>>532484083
My point is that for all the glazing of this freak, he doesn't seem to be learning the game at an impressive pace whatsoever. Especially considering it's his fucking job.

>>532484208
Master rank in 100 hours is pretty fucking good for someone who's never played a fighting game
He has a basic street fighter gameplan but he isn't using any drive rush at all, which is really hurting him in master rank

why is matchmaking taking so long

Do we just have bots posting random youtube videos now, what the fuck is this

>>532484367
I would agree if he was using classic. I'm pretty sure I could coach a friend to master faster than that. Even players in the Sajam slam achieved low masters despite learning the game for a few weeks. Most of them using classic too. I just don't see how what T1 has done is particularly impressive, like at all. Flash kick/ sonic boom to master without even learning charge inputs, hit confirms or anything like that.

>>532484954
Tyler received next to no coaching so that's a moot point, he grinded to master on a positive winrate
Credit where it's due, he did well. The fall down to 1200 is grim but it happens to all new master players

>>532484367
>He has a basic street fighter gameplan
He has a basic guile downback flashkick gameplan. He's not contesting space with anything but special moves. Someone doing walk up raw overheads would shatter his world

>>532485138
>He has a basic guile downback flashkick gameplan
Back in the day that was the only gameplan you needed....

>>532485087
I really don't see why credit is due. It's just straight unimpressive and his refusal to learn anything isn't endearing it's just retarded.

I thought everyone agreed Master means nothing, now it's impressive that a guy who mashes autocombos and doesn't even know how cancels work got it?

>>532485370
I'm sure we'll see in the next few days/weeks whether he can adapt or if he's just a league-brained grind machine

Imo he'll try to get master rank on modern Zangief or something, or play Sagat when he comes out. He needs the experience of different characters desu

>>532485627
High master means something lol, default master is shit yeah

>>532485627
Depends on the MR desu
Getting to master as a new player is a big milestone, the next milestone is having the balls to keep going after you inevitably lose 400MR
After that the next is reclaiming 1500, and high master after that

>>532479286
how do people even find matches of lopsided skill fun

how boomers feel when they haer Tyler dropped to 1200MR

>>532485370
for some reason people can't admit that the ranked system + modern leads to people ranking up for nothing.

>>532485627
its actually a good thing that you can rank up without understanding the basic functions of the game

>>532486001
by enjoying the learning process that comes with it

>>532484367
It's unironically nothing, the ranks are ultra inflated, Diamond ranks right now are like Gold-Plat at launch.
Not even mentioning it's his job and he have pros giving him tips.

>>532486428
Why are you getting so pressed over a streamer getting master rank

>>532486549
that anon is just clearing up disinfo. You're the one playing interference for tyler.

You're bothered because you felt good about his achievement even though it's not an achievement, and you now you feel stupid for being happy. Fuck your happiness nigga. This game is dogshit, don't even think about being proud of playing it.

>>532485250
even in ST guile had to stuff approaches with cr.mk and sobat and shit ya know

SF6 is already not a fighting game, so this whole classic vs moderndebate is moot.

Nakayama really feels like some Capcom version of Kojima who thinks that following western trends makes him cool.

>>532486975
why arent trannies taking over SF6? Its way easier than srtive

>>532487185
Because unlike GG, SF has an actual fanbase. They can't replace everyone playing the game

>>532486746
Kek must be awful to be depressed

>"there's no argument for this system that I need to lose 80 games!!!"
Maybe don't take shortcuts with modern & lots of ones-and-dones next time then, you fucking moron. How can someone be an unironic fan of this individual is beyond me.

>>532486263
When are people here going to stop making this viggle.ai slop?

>>532487338
desu they should probably make people do placement matches again for master rank instead of having 1500 as the default

>>532487448
I can agree with that, at least for the first time hitting Master in a season. But the more you take shortcuts hitting Masters, the harder the fall. That's how it is.

>>532487185
Stroivers actually suck at fighting games and every one of them that attempts the switch has been completely btfo because there's still legacy fundamentals strive doesnt teach when you're just ramming gatlings and setplay on top of each other

Homework:
>Leffen vs Akainu
>SnakeEyes playing strive for a month and winning a major literally just to prove a point
>Punk vs Hotashi FT15

they should make you agree that you're a carried fraud in a contract if you fall below 1300 so they can put you back in diamond, and your account will have a mark on it forever

>>532487185
They'll always be outnumbered by the Japanese who don't have to pretend to respect that shit

>>532487338
I don't really think he's wrong here, 99% of players that reach master for the first time aren't 1500mr, there should just be a second set of placements.

The whole point of master rank being a slow moving system is to put people at the ranks they belong at and make it a long process to attain a different rank

If you could go straight to 1000MR the system would be full of smurfs and it'd die off. The fact that people actually feel matched against people of their skill level (after the initial MR fall) is what keeps them playing

>>532487448
It takes like one 90 minute ranked session to get pulled down to your actual MR. It's a non-issue

>>532487626
>who don't have to pretend to respect that shit
>>532486975

>>532487648
He's not wrong in the sense that new Masters will struggle at 1500. That's why many players quit playing Masters and then go chill in the Hub or level other characters to Masters. But the severity of the drop also depends on how you got there, which is my point. Like he gamed the system, now complains about the consequences of it and refuses to listen to the people in chat pointing this out.

Jive was a terrible game in retrospect. Can’t believe I shilled it for 4 years.

>>532487859
That's a Capcom representative. I mean the average Japanese player

Sf1 Pablo honey
sf2 ok computer
Sfa the bends
SF3 kid a
SF4 amnesiac
SFv hail to the thief
Sf6 in rainbows

>>532489082
These are words

>>532488139
t. coping dixxoid

Mikabros...
Mastercard and Visa are getting uppity again. I'm starting to think we won't see her ever again

>Streamer falls once he joins the MR economy
>Now the MR economy is bad
>The people who say this will also refuse to cite games with a good Elo system
Noticing

/sfg/ is so comfy

>>532490030
Are chess players unhappy with Elo?

Reddit was so upset when tyler1 hit master but now it seems they're as happy as can be to see tyler1 crash and burn in master.

>>532490219
Chess players aren't happy, period.

>>532490030
I hate dix but MR is genuinely very good and the best fighting game ranked system so far. Nothing can be perfect and inflation is unavoidable but that's about it for problems.

>>532490310
Why are they such catty passive-aggressive bitches

>>532490219
chess doesnt come with a pretend-ranked before unlocking ELO that only exists to gas retards up.
people get to interact with the whole system from the start.

Brian F said that SF6's Elo system is too perfect, so chesstards can kma

>>532490396
That's because there's no execution barrier in chess, fighting games in general are more complex and have more situations to become accustomed to

>>532490378
Yea it’s not perfect (until master the game handholds you) but is still the best the genre came up with.

>>532490652
>

sf4 rank was basically sf6 mr shit

>>532490789
I've seen some seriously horrific 4-5k players, and that was universally accepted as the area of "very good players who can go to offline events and do damage"

>>532490686
Chess is objectively less complex than a real time fighting game
It might be more difficult in practice at the highest level, but everyone can play chess, not everyone has the reaction/mechanical component for a fighting game

SF6 is basically chess if it was harder and required a higher iq

>>532457882
menat is lame as hell and im tired of pretending otherwise

>>532490789
>open ranked list
>avoid players who can beat you
>open ranked lobby
>kick players who can beat you

>>532491030
Menat is literally just goonerbait, sadly

>>532491039
well the way points behaved at least
>>532490891
pretty sure there are shit legend players in dix as well

>>532490310
>Reddit
don't care, go back

i had 2.5k PP in SF4 when I was like 13 years old mashing st.mk and st.hk with bison

>>532491072
she could at least be well designed goonbait like juri
bitch is just a brown anime girl

>>532490310
This gave me a smile. Nothing feel better than retards thinking they're good getting shit on.

>>532490219
A bunch of low-skill players are, but thankfully chess is wholesale established enough that no seriously entertains the shitters

>>532490310
>or will eventually give the game the respect
i dont think tyler has ever disrespected sf6? he's having a lot of fun with it and taking advice from pros and stuff

>>532474863
>>532475184
Nah I don't believe it, the only games he wins in 6 are the ones where he completely dominates the neutral

IngridGODs won...

>>532491280
He's insult the balance of the game, the systems, the players...

>>532490910
>

>>532491917
insulted*

>>532491917
That's what people who love SF do
>>532491280
He went on the tried and true
>YOU HAVE TO LEARN 2000 COMBOS AND UNDERSTAND EVERY PIECE OF FRAME DATA JUST TO GET PAST THE BEGINNER STAGES
I think Diaphone had a session with him in Saudi, his tune changed a bit after EWC

>>532475653
It's a comeback mechanic that rewarded you massively for losing. There is an entire archetype of character in SFV like Urien or Oro where their whole gameplan is just to fuck around inconsequentially for half a round until they get hit enough to unlock trigger and attempt the V-robbery.

Not to mention many characters V-triggers were just gaining access to moves that would've previously been integrated into their basekit like Karin having her rekkas locked away. SFV characters are stunted in general. SF4 and SF6 Ryu would beat the dog piss out of SFV Ryu in a MUGEN style environment

>>532492076
Diaphone probably told him to keep it simple and stop tilting, and lo and behold he skyrocketed to master.
He'll probably be about 1300 when he stops ranked vortexing

>>532492506
SFV ryu has more tools than SF4 ryu.

https://youtu.be/1p5PyIAx8Dw?si=jZK7Jf1jK4U8jkWS
Brian clearly adores the game and can see it improving over time
I think he just needed to stop doing trash talk podcasts with that doomer idom, it was rubbing off on him

>>532492685
My opinion on the finals soured when somebody pointed out that Momochi was just too scared to try and check the thousand raw drive rushes Fuudo was doing

>>532492506
>Not to mention many characters V-triggers were just gaining access to moves that would've previously been integrated into their basekit like Karin having her rekkas locked away.
This argument gets thrown around so much when it doesn't really hold water. There are very few characters who had old tools locked behind V-Trigger, and every single one that did, was redesigned completely and given completely new tools to make up for it. Makes no sense complaining about stuff like Bison losing psycho crusher outside of V-Trigger when he had like 3 new specials, a new V-Skill, and completely revamped gameplay, especially when most of the redesigned characters in SFV (especially the returning ones from Alpha) are more interesting than their previous counterparts.

>>532492842
Except that's a sensible approach vs a character with a sway, he was playing the character matchup

>>532492685
if you listened to his podcasts, you know he's always telling idom to stop publicly complaining about the game because it makes bitch ass niggas like you insanely mad, so i wouldn't be surprised if brian's been keeping his opinions sanitized and palatable to not upset sensitive new players

>>532492598
he also has
>non-invincible DPs
>lights that don't link into mediums
>no crouch tech
>no invincible backdash
>neutered oki
>awful hadokens that do no pushback

>>532493238
That's because Brian has a career job and knows sometimes you have to play ball instead of incessantly bitching because it ruins your brand
Idom is now forever associated with being a whiner

>>532493070
nta but isn't the fact that letting deejay slime all over the place uncontested is the "correct" way to play the matchup the problem here? the risks of trying to stop drive rush are so dire that even the best players are often going to choose to just eat the neutral skip into plus frames and that makes for a really lame, scrubby neutral game

>>532493347
>ultra specific systems shit
lol

sf4 ryu was so cool...

>>532493398
yeah?

>>532492952
SFV Bison was modeled after Alpha Bison anyways.
He already traded psycho crusher for a projectile 30 years ago.
09ers only know SF4 though and think thats the baseline for all SF forever.

>>532493380
Luke/Akuma/Deejay having a move that interacts with drive rush is a bit like Cammy and Juri having a move that interacts with jump
You don't anti air every divekick nor do you expect to, a lot of the time you just have to realise that Cammy gets in on you for free and that's the matchup

>>532493443
What about him was cool? Or different at all? Ryu is like, never cool.

>>532493551
sybau

>>532493498
its fucking RETARDED because you arent describing ryu but the game around him.
its like saying SFV ryu could have an advantage because he cant get chipped out by specials.

the modern crutch only takes you so far huh

>>532492842
how does this need pointing out?
thats been SF6 since launch and most characters can do that.

>>532493671
What the hell lol

>>532493648
>Ryu is cool because he can do DP
So nothing about him is unique or cool, got it

>>532492598
SF4 ryu has more combo expression than SF5 and SF6, AND that's only talking about optimal combos

sf4 niggas be like "omg look at this sick hakan combo!!" and it just looks like a nigga doing a light after a medium except you didn't know it's an unplinkable 0.5f link and also the only way to route into a knockdown from a meaty

>>532493652
>SF4 and SF6 Ryu would beat the dog piss out of SFV Ryu in a MUGEN style environment
>erm you're literally using the differences between their games to explain why this is the case?
no shit dumbass. feel free to replace ryu with whatever character you want

People jerking off over links in SF4 is so corny
This is why Punk changed the game in 5

all SFV characters know is dash up mp cr.mp, activate v-trigger, and lie

>>532493934
I do be like this

>>532494018
Retarded MUGEN argument aside, you are fucking stupid if you think any version of an SF6 character is functional in a game with normal frame data. Sometimes you have been sliming for so long that you forget SF6 characters are completely neutered whenever they're not flashing green.

>>532494139
SF4 brought a lot of casuals who had never seen fighting games before to the scene, and combos are the first thing you'd take notice of as a casual. It's much easier to recognize skill in the form of execution when you don't know too much about fighting games, that's why 09ers like to talk about 1f links so much.

>>532493671
WThelly

Diddy really did ruin any chance Hakan had of coming back...

>>532493671
the consistent progress curve shows well how the system just gasses up players before master.

I wonder why they went with LP from rookie - Master, then jumped to MR at master

Will the FGV ever recover from the damage caused by covid? We used to have thriving regional scenes...

>>532494321
its more that 1f links are fucking lame and not that interesting.
most turd strike juggles are way cooler as an example.
https://x.com/HalreyTV/status/1947768954346197102

>>532494861
The queen who actually plays...

Retards really can't hit a 1f link to save their lives and then cope by making their whole personality about how evil 1f links are

I got hit by DR suppressor

I think the game should have high execution characters who are flashy and fun, while also having more accessible combos that lesser players can use. Basically, A more difficult to master Ed

>>532494165
SFV couldn't even have safe rekkas as basekit because they would be too OP. Even excluding drive rush -which is obviously insanely busted and dominates the entire game- something like Hashogeki which is a safe or even PLUS on block special ender that can lead to 60% combo conversion on CH is completely alien to SFV design philosophy

>>532495189
Outplayed but I do think sway moves from DR should be minus on block
Luke's is a normal unlike Akuma/Deejay's though and ignores this rule
But whatever he's not the best character so he needs it

>>532495095
They're not evil, they're just the lowest form of execution. Hitting jab at the right increment of 1/60th of a second isn't nearly as exciting as most other forms of frame perfect execution in other fighting games. Ironically, it's 09er tards who overestimate how hard links are when the average anime shitter is doing much tougher shit execution-wise just to be able to get to the oki situation that makes their character playable. I still would like SF games to have taller ceilings execution-wise, but never in the form of SF4's linkshit.

I hate Chun-Li

>>532495329
hashogeki is alien even to sf6's philosophy
that being said, sfv was full of hashogeki like moves that you had to interrupt to avoid getting looped with +frames in the middle of a blockstring, did you even play the game?

>>532494861
g-good m-match... *trying to hide the tent in my pants*

>>532495095
no SF2, 3, alpha, 5 or 6 player talks about le 1framer links as much as you gay 09er secondaries do literally all the time every day.
nobody talks about them when it comes to other series either.
ever wondered about thats the case?

>>532495203
That's what Modern provides. A player who hates learning & training room like Tyler1 can make the choice to use suboptimal, meter inefficient auto combos to get to master while the sweats like brian f who love doing combo drills and only care about being optimal in every situation can learn the highest damaging routes & conversions at the risk of being less consistent. This is just like SF4, the player gets to choose the combo types he wants to do based on how much he values consistency vs optimality. That's combo expression.

are 2 and 3 frame links in sf4 evil?

*keep in mind SF6 has a massive buffer so you are not doing those links in that dogshit game*

>>532495843
>thought 3 frame links were still in SFV and SF6
>it's actually 5 frames
fuck me

Does anyone else miss when wack niggas playing SF used to look retarded? Weird question, I know, but let me explain. If you watch someone bad play SF4, they'd be dropping every combo and they wouldn't know any setplay. If you watch someone bad play SFV, they would mash uselessly in neutral, not being able to confirm/convert pokes or whiff punish at all. But, when you watch bad players in SF6, the stuff they're doing still seems pretty valid. Like, how can you tell that a motherfucker hitting the fuck out of c.MK Drive Rush and then going for tick throws is a scrub? He's not reacting to a single DI or whatever, but for 70% of the match, his neutral looks solid even though he doesn't know what the fuck he's really doing. The floor for skill expression is too high now, is what I'm trying to say.

why do 09ers act so high and mighty when they couldnt even keep their game alive?
ST and 3s players get to boast and brag to this day desu.

>>532496096
just another way the game is lying to you. Open your eyes brother.

>>532496146
retarded players had to be a bit more creative in past games.
in SF6 offense is kinda served on a silver platter at all times so the result is that it more or less looks similar on many levels.

thats one of the main arguments for why offense shouldnt be that easy. let the apes put a slight bit of work in. its more interesting for everybody involved that way.

>>532496146
it was just more soulful. Your damage increased more linearly with your skill, so two noobs fighting were on equal footing and there wasn't a color mechanic completely invalidating the other player.

>>532496150
the only reason why you think st or 3s are alive is because you've lowered your standards enough that you think having 200 niggas sitting on a chatroom with a freeware arcade machine emulator installed on their computers constitutes an actual playerbase
if 3s was alive you wouldn't all be pogging out for evo nostalgia tournament handouts and would instead be happy with your 20 niggas side tournament at combobreaker right next to the windjammers setup

Everyone on fightcade playing third strike or ST is doing it on purpose. They went out of their way to play. Nobody is playing it out of a duty or because capcom paid them. What the fuck is wrong with you? You should be playing at least 3 different fighting games, if you only play SF6 then you're the cancer killing the fgc.

>>532493671
We literally saw in real time how modern can never really substitute classic.
I feel like a researcher.

>>532491280
Why do people like you suck his dick so much? Genuine question. Are you like 20 and you see him as a role model or something? What do you get out of going out of your way to bat for this retard?

I honestly think people who are able to smoothly press & release the assist button on the ground & air to pull off combos using Modern controls are execution gods because I literally couldn't do it no matter how hard I practiced. I find learning & doing combos in Classic controls to be much easier execution wise than what Modern players have to do.

>>532496437
sorry m8 but you have steamcharts brain and can only think in out of context numbers that show on the screen.
people still travel for those games, do team battles between regions and nations, get decent numbers as side games, get tech and content posted
straight up all of that died out for SF4 the day 5 came out.
combo breaker had 200 entrants for 3s and 70 for ST.
it had no tournament for SF4 at all.

SF1: Fitter
SF2: Happier
SF0: More Productive
SF3: Comfortable
SF4: Not drinking too much
SF5: Regular exercise at the gym (3 days a week)
SF6: Getting on better with your associate employee contemporaries

I'm playing ST getting my shit kicked and having fun but even in this game grabs are still so retarded goddamn, fuck Blanka.

MvC4 isn't the game being made by Capcom.
It's SFvXMen (2 character tag). See you at EVO.

>>532497170
ST did in fact have throwloops but they fixed them by the time alpha/3 came out.

>>532493671
is there a website for this or is it just schizo behaviour?

>>532497258
boring as fuark

>>532497258
Tag games are lame so idc.

>>532497258
Would make sense since they can reuse assets like they did with SFvT.

>>532496940
>We literally saw in real time how modern can never really substitute classic.
It can and will, but modern had nothing to do with any of that. All we've seen is that ego-stroking ranked systems will inevitably end up estranging players unless they straight up quit the game after a while.

>>532497517
>It can and will
Lol

>>532497352
google sf6 buff you just put your name and it gives you all the info

my unc reactions are so slow that I never tech Li Fen's attack hug. She just jumps and clings onto me whenever we meet and I nearly fall over every time

>>532497258
I would like that, I'm only interested in X-Men from marvel anyway.

What's even the point on dropping players on 1500 MR as soon as they hit master if they're just gonna spend the following games tumbling down a flight of stairs down to 1200 MR?
Imagine if League jumped you from Silver 1 straight to Diamond 1 and you had to spend the next 20 games getting your ass beat until you reach Gold 3.
New Master players don't even know what "1500 MR" even is so it's not like it means anything to them.

>>532498073
You only tumble your way down to 1200 MR if you got to Masters in a very undeserved way. Usual drop is 1350ish.

>>532497424
Same, I rather have cvs3 or sfxt style tag fighter if we absolutely have to get a team game. I have zero interest in dealing with the bullshit and pacing that defines tag games like the marvel series.

>thread is mostly ok when murricans are sleeping.
Hmmm

>>532498263
>*answers phone*
She busy nigga
>*click*

JP is on the list him and M Bison were BFFs

Can someone spoonfeed me how to beat a Bison just walking backward and throwing 5HP?

>>532498256
If they're reusing assets, I bet it's more akin to sfvt. They can just add some more moves to SF characters and build new ones for the X-Men.

So is T1 making it to Master with Modern proof that modern is a crutch or that we need more ranks?

>>532498601
modern has always been a crutch they wouldn't be playing it if it weren't

>>532498601
no because he instantly lost 300 points
the system will filter him out further

>>532498601
There's nothing wrong with the system other than people not getting that the distribution isn't the same as with other games and gold/plat/diamond don't mean the same things.

>>532498284
It always has been like that, not just here but everywhere across videogame boards.

>>532498482
Not happening. Maximillian would complain nonstop if a sf vs x-men game was dialed back to such a degree.

>>532459917
More like
>Akuma
>Mai
>Akuma
>Akuma
>Ryu
>Mai
>Terry
>Akuma
>Mai
>Ryu

dogshit game

>>532498073
because its a system that calibrates itself and its hardly a problem because it calibrates itself fast.
it should take players about an hour of play to get into a range that more or less makes sense for them.
its the previous ranked system that makes no sense and sets up bad expectations and habits.

of course the actual problem is that people dont actually play enough. twenty matches is fucking nothing and then you are matched with people that are close to your skill level. its insane that anybody would even bring that up.
oh no I have to play the equivalent of two FT10s against some people that might be stronger than me the horror.

>>532498601
It's hard to say. The people in diamond were generally worse than him. He wasn't really winning because of Modern, he was winning because the level of play is really that bad in diamond. Go back and watch of his games, you will walk away thinking that average diamond player is legit retarded.

>>532497948
thanks, shame it's not more than 100 games

I quite enjoy the MR system, I barely lab because I'm lazy and I still managed to reach a decent MR.
Anyone can do it, just play a lot and don't go full retard

>>532499178
its not as accurate as in game stats but it makes a pretty little graph i like to look at

>>532499308
how does it go from 25k LP to 1300MR?

shit nigga I'm a BUM

>>532498368
Based luke

Why do you people keep blaming Modern for tyler1? He actively did everything in his power to never learn anything. Refuses to watch anything SF related on youtube. Refuses to use practice mode. Refuses to watch replays. Refuses to look up how M Guile is played by high MR players. For fuck sake, he won't even queue for rank matches in training mode because he hates being in training mode that much. Modern has nothing to do with that, he made his own choice.

Is blue dj just sandbagging?

>>532499484
idk, it must be missing some data.
That missing gap was pure hell so just imagine a huge dip to fill in

Yup, I remember that day in the middle

>>532499813
he keeps playing even when he's tilted which leads to losestreaks can't blame him I do the exact same thing

>>532498284
it's mostly dead also

>>532500010
Still better miles better than their copypasted shitposting flooding the thread.

Crossfire turdicane

>>532498073
league mmr system also has rubberbanding if you do well in placements, I had to get shit on by plats a few times before I got put into bronze 1 where I belonged, the games are x30 longer there too and there's team chat so the misery quotient is significantly higher

mmr is also hidden there so it feels genuinely unfair and rigged unlike dix MR

When's the reset? Wonder if i should force myself to grind out the green colour this weekend.

the shitty 2xko super animation brought the debate back up again, imagine how much time you lose watching level 3 cutscenes if you actually play the game. They should leave that shit in single player now they actually have one.

Our FUARKING heroes.

>>532501286
August first. But more importantly, when is costume 4 trailer?

>>532501507
So true, xister, bring back Falke's super where she hits you once with a stick

>>532501609
Falke was more played than all of the 2XKO toons combined

>>532501609
but all CAs in Jive were the same length, even falke's bonk which was 10 seconds of her jumping into the air first

>>532501507
I'm of the idea that the full cinematic should only play if the super kills.
Otherwise it should play some minimal cutscene, like 4 seconds long at most.

>>532501897
but then you couldn't get retards saying will it kill every time

>>532501507
I really don't care at this point, it also serves as time to adjust my strategy.

>>532501712
thats wrong. look at balrogs super, which has the perfect length.

>>532502092
this and the "I can get a sip of water" are such shit arguments especially since the majority of the time they happen when the round is over either because it's a kill combo or you're burned out into checkmate

>>532502047
- and that's a good thing!

if you need an epic repetitive fifteen seconds cinematic to "adjust your strategy" you might be better off swapping to a turn based game.

>>532502206
>Balrog super
>Big punch
>Honda super
>Big slaps
>Chun super
>Big kicks
Jive supers were unironically boring af

>>532502476
kys

>>532502546
sybau

>>532502654
did you pick up that fag speak from reddit

the thought of some sliming nigger thinking he's "adjusting his strategy" as he's drooling over his controller watching a cinematic super is making my blood boil

TIME TO RETURN TO HARMONY

>>532502269
I think its time to gather all the shit kneejerk arguments that are being fired off all the time when it comes to this game.
there are so many at this point.

THIS IS IT

>>532502546
Nah they were boring overall, three supers per character is so much better

>>532502832
>SA1 reversal
>SA2 Vtrigger reskin
>SA3 actual super
woah so cool and varied

Let's party... to, share komu ka no

https://www.eventhubs.com/news/2025/jul/24/harada-difficulties-martial-arts-tekken/
Do you think Harada realises that nobody knows or cares what Bulgarian Kenpo is, and that's why people find Tekken characters boring?

dixxies here not seeing a problem with 15 seconds cutscenes every round underlines that they dont even play the game they shill.

>>532503016
sir this is the street fighter thread

>>532503028
every time I get hit by a 10 second long combo that ends in a super I just wish I could hold the start button to skip the cinematic

>>532503042
Yeah and street fighter beats the shit out of Tekken at making different martial arts interesting and iconic
>>532503079
>Sagat fatality in C tier
Bitch

they make the martial arts interesting and iconic by making them not resemble the martial arts they are based on at all just to force some dogshit gimmick like with marisa or tranon.

>>532503016
people find most tekken characters boring because they have no personality

Empty jump sweep inte eject the disc and snap it in half

>>532503170
>Yeah and street fighter beats the shit out of Tekken at making different martial arts interesting and iconic
Street Fighter hasn't even tried to do this since SF2 or 3, most new SF characters are just magic anime dorks

Street Fighter straight up has the worst taekwondo rep ever put into a fighting game.
At least I cant think of a worse one.

Unfortunately I won't be attending Evo2k25 next weekend. I want to wish everyone that's attending a safe trip and a wonderful experience. I'm sad about it but I've made a decision that's personal to me for my health and future. Love you FGC...

>>532503305
remember when niggas were talm bout kolin being a systemma user or whatever the fuck slavic prison torture martial art it was that she's based off of just for her to summon ice with magical powers?

>>532503268
So true, xister! Where are the fireballs? The judoka should be throwing ki blasts, like is tradition in muay thai and shotokan karate!

>>532502716
tiktok

>>532503305
>most new SF characters are just magic anime dorks
AKI is snake style Kung Fu and Ed is boxing, but yeah they're heavily anime inspired which is what gives them the cool factor
Tekken is too simplistic in its movements and suffers from forgettability as a result

I feel like guile is a trap character, in that if you go online you'll see tons of super long high damaging combos, but you'll never actually see any of those pulled off in a real match.

>>532503394
Taekwondo is a gay competition sport, not a fighting style. Of course you need to add fantasy elements to it to not make it all kookily.

aki is a fucking shit snake style rep.
both lei wulong and christie from doa mog her hard.

>>532503572
taekwondo is taught in their military. lets not make up stupid shit just to defend bad moveset designs like juris.

>>532503739
>lei wulong and christie from doa
Nobody knows who the fuck these characters are lol

season 4

>>532503876
yeah man. its ...aki who everybody knows.
fucking lmao. that character wont ever make it into another SF game.

>>532503305
>>532503394
Tekken lost ellie lol

Nobody knows any of these random Scrimblo characters from other games that nobody plays.

I do

dixxies always have to lash out at games that do things better.
they always do it completely unprovoked too and then feign ignorance when called out.

>>532503876
Nobody knows who the fuck Aki is either bro

niggas think they have taste cause they jerk off to

..................mai

>>532504056
Tekken 8 flopped ellie.

as if the average SF6 drone here even heard of drunking boxing before james chen told them about it.

nubi its time to get a job. your mother is worried.

>>532503938
>>532504091
Everyone is playing the new SF knows who she is, which is more than you can say for your 200 player kuso

>>532504224
these kinds of posts are so funny. completely ignorant.

>>532504224
aki fags are delusional

>>532503275
so true sis they need to have epikk meme personalities like hakan instead

>>532504378
Hakan is actually great though

>>532504328
>>532504357
AkiGAWDS own you now hold this fireball drive rush

hakan is a better martial arts reference than most SF characters desu.

>take a 4 month break from the game
>easily get the new character to master in about an hour
>read up on plat and diamond shitters in /sfg/ crying about how they can't rank up
>take another 4 month break from the game

>Noah can't even win a world warrior tournament anymore
>In the weakest NA region imaginable

>>532504378
Hakan's based doe

>>532504378
>Azucena

>>532504435
ah yes thats my favorite martial arts representation.
when I think of jackie chans snake in the eagles shadow I imagine him tossing out a slow projectile and turning green.

>>532504448
Chunfags are delusional

>>532504654
Shut up loser.

>>532504468
Hey man congrats

>>532504843
ISSA AISLOPPA

>>532504448
Every time Chun says she's the strongest woman in the world someone deeply seethes

>>532502269
>I don't like that you adapted, you have to be retarded like I am
No

I still haven't seen a maifag actually play the game, while we know the resident Chunfag does.
>Noticing

>>532505018
What else have you noticed

>>532504654
https://youtube.com/shorts/0SxRUZBRyns?feature=shared
Cope

>>532480229
>below honda
>below sim
>below blanka
>below lily
jesus christ this character really is terrible. the crazy part is his art is better than all 4 of those characters but people give so little of a shit about this sandcoon that he's completely forgotten
first DLC added by the way. they really pushed this fucking failure more than once on us