Thread 532675771

Kino edition.

>Demo Days
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>Helpful links
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>How to WebM
https://obsproject.com
https://github.com/argorar/WebMConverter
https://github.com/michaelmob/WebMCam

>Previous thread
>>532589146

What does your vidya makin schedule look like? Are you self-employed? Are you able to maintain things like a partner and a pet? How do you not burn out?

I want to dev but I genuinely believe my "fans" don't deserve an update, which puts me in a conundrum.

YOOOOOOOOOO IS THAT A GAME WHERE YOU GAMBLE AND CHOOSE BETWEEN 3 THINGS? GIMME GIMME

my game is suddenly getting more downloads because all the NSFW games in the same categories have been deindexed on itch.io

>>532676070
>my "fans" don't deserve an update
It's like you're not going to go to the bathroom because the weird guy is going to sniff your farts. Just like make game. Fuck em. If they receive it well then great, otherwise who cares?

>>532676105
YOOOOO I love to gamble at home not for fortune but for anime waifus. My problem is when they start replacing everyone's voice actor because they refuse to pay decent salaries.

>>532676256
Good for you. I hope your game makes people happy, and coom well and strong. Health!

>>532676256
lol same

>>532676061
I just work on my game all day/play games as research. Pretty much all I'm doing. I'm relying on my nest egg to keep me while I publish something. I'm not sure what I'm going to make, but I'm sure I can make a salary in 1.5 years (then my money runs out).

>>532676061
I tend to get lost online for a couple hours after I wake up. Then I try to get some dev done. Productivity varies from day to day. I have to stop deving at least a few hours before sleep or else I won't be able to sleep.

>>532675771 (OP)
Can you imagine walking into a room and everyone is posed like this?

There is a huge market for historical and alt history games, it's a gigantic niche with disappointing games lately and yet no indie devs taking advantage of it. Probably because the amount of content required is too much for solodevs but you can make hyperspecific niche games focused on a single era, I got filtered trying to make a grand strategy map you need to be good at shaders to make it look really good.

>>532676061
I'm just built differently ;) What can I say except I'm great

>>532676482
>Good for you. I hope your game makes people happy, and coom well and strong. Health!
I cancelled the game... it's not coming out, it was just a prototype

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fiyf4XPanf4
Do gamedev communities outside of here use the term "ideaguy" or is he one of us?

>>532677280
>Do gamedev communities outside of here use the term "ideaguy"
they do

>>532677028
The only era in history I have an autistic knowledge base of is a niche already taken by Dynasty Warriors

>>532677028
I've always wanted to do something like KCD but in my country's historical setting but it's too much for one guy.

>>532676748
>Insomnia
Ever thought of submitting a portfolio to Insomniac? I live down the road from them practically.

>>532677063
You are great anon. Never let anyone tell you otherwise.

>>532677183
>No coom for me
Damnit. How am I going to coom?

>>532677516
What if alternate universe dynasty warriors

Toby Fox is cool

>>532677280
who's the gigatroon
gtfo outta here

>>532677028
I don't like those kind of games

>>532677994
OK Toby, thanks for the input.

>>532677280
Yeah.
What do you call an ideaguy who literally conceptualizes an entire video game down to the last detail?

>>532678169
A game designer

>>532677028
>There is a huge market for historical and alt history games
My game is alt history in the most literal sense, probably. When you first get into the game and it's world it appears to be exactly the same as ours but as you go through the game and if you pay attention to the background stuff, you find out more and more differences between my world and the real world. But the alt history audiences probably won't like that.

>>532678169
That would be a game designer and not an ideaguy. The ideaguy is clueless as to the mechanisms that make a game work and are incapable of fleshing out any actually important details.

>>532677981
>Ever thought of submitting a portfolio to Insomniac?
No? I don't particularly consider myself an insomniac either. My brain is just very active when I'm in dev mode and it takes a couple hours to calm down.

>>532678474
In your pic, it is correct that it is not the engineer's job to determine the vision, but very importantly *someone* still needs to determine the vision. Whether you call them a game designer or an idea guy, there needs to be an actually good vision of the end goal for the team to align around. And before you go off on the typical "but you can't actually know the end goal at the start," yeah, obviously you can change the vision at any time. The point is to maintain alignment between team members.

>can't get a job
>can't make porn games because it's competition to mindgeeks porn websites
>can't make my dream game because it's too niche and will flop
>can't make a sfw anime game because agdg says it's transcoded
What the fuck I'm supposed to make? Gambleslop?

>>532678773
The engineer is far more capable of coming up with a reasonable vision than a retarded nodev.

>>532644591
>>532644894
Well, what is it?

>>532678927
So are you saying that the engineer shouldn't have been fired in that pic?

I used AI voice acting to generate ekse.

>>532679118
Well, a beginner junior with no practical experience should be put in his place. If he can be taught, then teach him, but some people refuse to learn without facing severe consequences.

Design is the most difficult task in any field. For example, you said
>"but you can't actually know the end goal at the start,"
but no actual designer is going to say that. That's ideaguy bullshit. You do absolutely need to design around static end goals. That is the foundation of design. If later on in your project, you see that you're not capable of meeting those end goals, then you need to call your previous design a failure, and redesign around better end goals. The problem is that it requires a lot of expertise and experience to know what reasonable end goals even are, and even more expertise to know what's the most effective way to get there.

>>532678927
Here's the thing: What's the limit for "Reasonable?"

>>532680373
That should be based on what resources and constraints look like, and everyone's resources and constraints are different. Typically, you shouldn't be trying to push things to the limit. You want to stay within a range where you have high expectations for success.

>>532678608
Understandable. I can get pretty excited when I dev too. Always had trouble with insomnia, but I've learned to sleep really snug. Cheers to good sleep hygiene, and good luck on your game.

>>532680093
So you completely agree that there needs to be a vision? What are you trying to argue with me about exactly?

How are you going to advertise your game anon?
Where, and how much?

>>532681079
Ideaguys are incapable of having a "vision". Game designers are. Ideaguys are not game designers.

>>532681283
Engineer in original picture gets fired for trying to form a vision though. So doesn't that mean vision is a bad thing?

>>532681089
>How are you going to advertise your game anon?
I'm not. It's too much work. I can only actually make my game. Fuck advertising, whatever happens to my game, happens.

>>532681089
You don't need to advertise your game, you just need to release it. If it is good it will be successful without advertising. If it fails it was a bad game and advertising would have been wasted on it.

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Agdg is too pleb to make a VN eroge about Enrique VIII.

>>532681429
If you read the thing, he formed a vision of an experience, not of an aircraft. Our goal here is to make real, playable video games that exist as computer software, not imaginary experiences that can only ever exist in the realm of one's mind.

>>532681089
Whatever you do don't pay bots to upvote it on reddit

>>532682031
listen to this anon!

>>532682031
>>532682212
The fact that agdg cares only about the aircraft and not the experience of the passenger/customer probably explains a great deal about why agdg continuously puts out basically functional games that consistently fail to capture any kind of audience.

A game is not just any kind of computer software, it is computer software that also needs to deliver an incredible experience to get customers. What the customer experiences should define the static end goal or vision.

Ascent of Ashes released in early access today. The reviews are not overwhelmingly positive. Some reviews suggest buying just to support the developer.

Changed from Unity to Godot, shifts in publishers, unstable funding.

Developer has reputation from Rimworld modding and persistence, but might be wearing thin.

What predictions do you have?
Would a senior Unity developer at the beginning of the project have averted this course of development?

>>532682031
>>532682212
What a masterful crab.

>>532682853
Not switching engines probably would have helped, dipshits.

>>532682853
>even 17 fucking thousand followers wasnt even to save it from the bear trap known to some as early access
hes fucked, that mixed review tag is never going away, because steam piggies are braindead

>>532682828
It is more important for a game to be fun to make than fun to play

>>532682853
Godont not even once.

>>532676061
>vidya makin schedule look like
I wake up at some point from 8-12, stare at my desktop thinking "alright I'm going to start working right after I do this" and then never actually make any progress. I get maybe 1 week's worth of progress done a month, and it happens in a continuous span of 2-3 days.
>Are you self-employed
Yes I have a game on Steam that makes me just enough money to live, but I still need to work on it.
>Are you able to maintain things like a partner and a pet?
No.
>How do you not burn out?
I am burnt out. Have been for years.

>>532682853
>switch engines and drop your publisher because they're unwilling to fund a stupid idea
>get fucked in the long run for a knee-jerk reaction
Oof

>>532678474
I see, the engineer was fired for trying to do a C-suite executive's job (design the flight experience) instead of his own job (make the plane).

Just like in game dev. You need engineers to build the game, but you need the game designers (aka idea guys) to tell the engineers what kind of thing to build. The autistic software engineers in this thread need to shut up and stop trying to do the job of the idea guys and instead listen to the idea guys.

I spent hours trying to figure out why I couldn't make a scene transition on Godot, until I realized that it had absolutely nothing to do with not being able to do scene transitions, and the actual problem was that I accidentally deleted "extends control" on the script of a root node. Oops haha!

>>532684431
Thank you for your wisdom, would you be so kind as to share your great fortune-making games that made it clear to you that you have great game development management and business acumen?

>>532684691
I'm the autistic software engineer waiting for the idea guy to tell me what kind of game to build, not the idea guy.

>>532676061
Can't burn out if I can't even get the time to work properly on my game.

>>532676256
>>532676572
if ever you needed a clearer reason to gas the coomdevs, look no further. Remember the coomdev is not a real game developer, he is a merchant of vice. The coomdev is your enemy

>>532684691
>great game development management
You don't actually need this, you just need some sort of product development management skills. Gabe Newell's background before Valve was spreadsheets and operating systems, not games, but he could still apply that knowledge to define a good end user experience for the engineers and level designers to work toward.

I just figured out how to use Krita as my texturing tool in blender viewport.

Like a Substance painter clone.

agdg BTFO.

>>532676256
reminder to set itch's cut to 0% since they no longer work for the creators

>>532681089
I miss when re:zero was a personal story about likable characters. Idk what s2 even was about, I'm sure it has a powerful message about not being a NEET or whatever but it clearly did not resonate. s3 is back to being cool but I don't know any of the characters.

In other news this is the 14th time I opened up twitter in the last hour instead of devving because I'm the president of procrastination nation

>>532677028
Too many alt history strategy games not enough alt history rpgs and action games

a ping pong game

>>532685973
What knowledge from spreadsheets and operating systems applies to good end user experience?

>>532681089
I’m gonna do ads in front of movies
You can get a 15s ad in front of every screening for $300-$600 a month
Imagine your game on the big screen where only AAA advertise for basically peanuts, I’ll just time it with a major film release

>>532686260
Alt history fits strategy better because the constraints of history work well with guiding the design of the strategy game elements. RPGs and action work better with the freedom afforded by pure fantasy.

>>532686508
>You can get a 15s ad in front of every screening for $300-$600 a month
Where and how? That's too good to be true.

>>532686489
Just watch the Half-Life anniversary documentary. I'm not going to go searching for the quotes for you.

>>532686489
It’s all software and design is universal
If you can make a good door knob you can make a good ui and Vice versa

>>532686658
My local theater company is NCM and you can setup a campaign with them via their website, no phone calls. But that’s in California. I just looked up who manages ads for my local theater. My theater is dead so it’s only like $300/month but theaters in bigger towns push up to 6 or 7 hundred.

>>532685986
doesn't help much when you can't do digital painting

death to doomeroids

>>532677028
>>532686260
Yesterday night I spend hours researching western imperialism because I was so confused why all war games were always about shooting brown people and the only antiwar shooter I can think of was spec ops the line.
Even Fallujah was turned into a pro war dogshit game. When the reality was, city was largely destroyed, Massive civilian casualties, used depleted uranium munitions, leading to increased birth defects and cancer rates, forced evacuation of most civilians, US forces treated entire population as potential enemies, Collective punishment etc.
The US troops were the terrorists lol. Yet no games pit you against them. Strange. This is what "bringing democracy" actually looked like on the ground. The US military destroyed an entire city to punish it for resistance, used chemical weapons, and left a generation of children with birth defects.

It kind of made me think of creating games based on real-history. There are very pressing themes to hit on, it's just that people are conditioned to think it to be a bad idea. But I think the new gens are waking up. Now you're finally allowed to criticize Israel in the open. Times are changing and it's only a matter of time until a studio somewhere in china makes a shooter about fighting US terrorists.

>>532686486
kill yourself

>>532681089
On my Discord server

>>532681881
the global pedophile cabal is crumbling

>>532686804
I don't do this hobby so some agile middle-manager faggot waste of oxygen can ask me how many storypoints I think a ticket should have and then grill me about it every fucking day until I move it across the jira board.

Also software design is not universal. If it were then Amazon wouldn't be a multi-billion dollar game studio with zero successful games.

>>532687171
what's the point of retards to be so agressive regarding my art skills, when they never post their art skills?

>>532687274
Baby in the end we publish to US-owned platforms such as Steam and itch, if the americans don't like it they won't publish it. COD would never add that guy who threw a sandal at george bush.

>>532686658
>too good to be true.
are you unaware that basically no one goes to cinemas anymore? and the handful that still do arent going to be in front of the screen during the ads. and even if they happen to by accident see it, theyre at a cinema in 2025 bc theyre a film nerd they likely dgaf about vidya and certainly wont be convinced in 15s.

literally the worst money spend possible.

>>532687689
>some agile middle-manager faggot waste of oxygen
Yet one of those guys basically owns the entire PC gaming market now.

>>532687795
Steam cares about profits and avoiding bad PR, not protecting US foreign policy. If it's entertaining, based on the truth, not violating any of Steam's TOS, I don't see an issue.

>>532687274
If you want to put your name on the map in no time just make a 10 minute horror game from the perspective of someone in falluja or Gaza or some similar modern situation.

>>532688094
Well it would be great if it's accepted and stays there.
https://store.steampowered.com/app/1714420/Fursan_alAqsa_The_Knights_of_the_AlAqsa_Mosque/
This game was initially removed apparently then put back up, and it is from a palestinian freedom fighter perspective.

>>532684283
>right after I do this
Cultivate concentration
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vPsqAwWDYlc
1. Constantly switching attention has a negative residual effect on the brain.
2. They anxiously seek irrelevance. They can't stay focused on a single task.
3. When the brain becomes accustomed to constant distraction, it's difficult to break free from that addiction, even when it wants to concentrate.
4. Constantly switching between high-value activities with limited stimuli and low-value activities with abundant stimuli, at the slightest sign of boredom or cognitive challenge, teaches your mind to not tolerate the absence of novelty.

>POV
>Self Portrait

How exactly are you supposed to learn how to code games

I understand CS principles and can code basics scripts but when I look at stuff like pic related, which is a YouTuber coding a terrain generator in Unity, I get overwhelmed and wonder how are you supposed to source this knowledge from scratch

Like if I wanted to implement my own version of a terrain generator or make alterations to this one, not only would I not know where to begin, I wouldn't know where to start learning to get on the path of knowing where to begin

Are there any courses that would bring me up to speed on how to think when programming in C# for Unity

>>532688298
Not available in my location.
https://steamcommunity.com/app/1714420/discussions/0/597386372524807518/

Interesting. But like I said, if done well, with clear references and citations. Obviously with respect and not look like a mobile game.

>>532688312
You're honestly right. I do this with 4chan actually and probably has destroyed my attention. Fine, I will try to better myself. Thanks.

>>532688728
This isn’t too complicated honestly. This stuff used to totally confuse me though.
Do you understand the concept of objects/classes? That’s the foundation for everything in a language like C#.

>>532676061
I usually wake up, do some light weight lifting then dev for 2-3 hours. A small break before going to work.

>>532688728
what helped me was talking to ChatGPT. Better than any YouTube tutorial you can find. Just have to not copy code from it. This goes even for tutorials by the way. Copying code can always mess you up.

It's a tool. You can use it to your betterment or detriment.

>>532676061
I can only dev a few hours a week. I do freelance programming for small businesses. Family takes up a ton of time. So progress is very slow.

>>532676061
4 hours game dev
workout
4 hours game dev
purposeful leisure

Sundays off.

>>532687274
>When the reality was, city was largely destroyed, Massive civilian casualties, used depleted uranium munitions, leading to increased birth defects and cancer rates
They're brown so I don't care
>The US troops were the terrorists lol. Yet no games pit you against them. Strange.
They were just doing the bidding of their Jewish masters. Netanyahu engineered the whole thing.

>There are very pressing themes to hit on, it's just that people are conditioned to think it to be a bad idea.
I can't imagine you'd handle it with any tact or finesse, you'd just dump heavy-handed opinions on the player in a ham-fisted way and it would end up becoming a meme because of how tone-deaf it was and how it misses any kind of mark with what we as a culture are currently concerned with. There aren't any pressing themes to hit on with regards to the Iraq war, nobody cares, everyone knows it was a shitty idea, nobody is out here defending foreign wars of choice, globalist liberalism as a concept is itself in its twilight years

There's thousand books, films and documentaries haven't already combed over how war is le bad and america did le bad things in le wars. Games are the wrong medium to explore that shit because games are a non-serious medium meant to be fun entertainment not soapboxes for pretentious midwits who think they're an expert in something because they watched a documentary by some libshit journo.

>>532687874
Lots of people get to theaters way too early and many bring family. Viewership is low but super memorable. Spend $1000 on TikTok and you’ll get a bunch of “views” but everyone just swiped past your ad as fast as possible and forgot about it. In a theater, the few people there are forced to watch your ad on a giant screen. You’re right that it’s low viewers but it’s far better than you’ll get spending that money on a conventional digital ad platform.
Otherwise you should look into billboards in urban areas with lots of gridlock traffic.

>>532689528
Can you name 5 mainstream American film productions that depict America negatively in a modern war?

>>532688728
don't try to make something super complex if you've never made a game before

>>532689798
Hmm... That's very interesting advice.

Could you show your game which you made a success with this marketing advice? And maybe post some pictures of your urban billboard adds and the link to the youtube video for the cinema add you used.

Glad to see someone with real world experience is giving out marketing advice here.

>>532677028
>There is a huge market for historical and alt history games, it's a gigantic niche
Genuinely would love to see a source on this data if it exists

>>532690104
This is bad advice you should set your sights as high as possible and just keep working toward that goal. If you only do things you can already do you’ll never grow. Also the example code is not complicated.

>>532689528
>You'd do it badly because I would do it badly
You're projecting, my friend. I can't prove you wrong so I won't.
>Games are the wrong medium to explore that shit
Such a retarded point I'm amazed how you managed to type this out without realizing how retarded it is.
Every shooter in existence is exploring this "shit", just from a POV that has been programmed into your fucking brain since birth.

It had not been done and the only other example is the game that anon above has posted about which is just a role reversal, which makes for a boring game.

>>532689061
I do, I can sort of glean what the code does as well, but if you asked me to implement any of it I'd be stumped on where to begin even in pseudocode let alone actual code, and that's just a tiny bit of part ~7 out of 15 so it's not even close to the full generator

I guess I could eventually come up with the pseudocode on my own given enough time and trial and error, but again, knowing how to code it, knowing how to store something, in what, and why, how to process the data to achieve a goal, knowing what tools I have at my disposal, if something will work or not etc stumps me

For example while watching the video I noticed the guy just pulls out the bounds property without ever mentioning it before and I realized there's tons of shit under the hood I'd need to familiarize myself with to avoid wasting time reinventing the wheel for stuff that's already built in

>>532689336
ChatGPT can help for individual bits and pieces but I'm looking for something that would let me familiarize myself with actually working at increasing levels of complexity in a structured way so I don't have gaps in my knowledge

>>532690104
I guess you could rephrase my question as "how do I go from making a simple game to making more complex ones", because making a 2D platformer didn't help me understand how to make a 3D terrain generator from scratch, that feels like a wholly separate thing that doesn't have simpler versions that you can use to ease yourself in

>>532690101
Apocalypse Now
Platoon
Full Metal Jacket
The Green Zone
Zero Dark Thirty

There are tons of war films that depict the US poorly, because films are made by Hollywood libs who don't like the US or the military. You're retarded.

>>532690146
What I can show you is a few thousand dollars wasted on digital ad platforms (meta, tiktok) that delivered no results. I’m not suggesting these ideas because I’ve used them, but because they might be viable alternatives to the common choices which are almost guaranteed to fail. I do plan on using these strategies myself in 9-14 months when I’m in the marketing phase for my own project. So I’ll be putting my money where my mouth is.
Can you share some of your own positive experiences with conventional digital ad platforms that makes you so hostile toward the idea of alternatives?

>>532690687
>I’m not suggesting these ideas because I’ve used them
Then shut the fuck up.

>>532690573
Vietnam was 55 years ago dude I said modern, like post-9/11

>>532688728
>How exactly are you supposed to learn how to code games
start making pong

>>532690318
Ok well go ahead and make that game. Good luck, I can't wait for all the progress you're going to post and all the money you're going to make you won't

>>532690794
Waiting for you to share your own experiences or ideas bro. Where do you advertise and how does it work for you?

>>532682828
It doesn't matter how much you care about the experience when you don't have any clue how to achieve it. You first need real skills before anything else.

>>532683896
u rack disciprine

>>532684431
This isn't the job of a C-suite executive. It's the job of a director. You're also clueless to what the media production pipeline looks like.

>>532686804
+1 to this.

>>532690573
4 out of 5 are Vietnam films from 40+ years ago, not "modern wars." And Zero Dark Thirty? That film was literally criticized for being CIA propaganda that glorifies torture. The Green Zone is the only recent film that's genuinely critical of Iraq, which kinda just of proves how rare this perspective is.

loading tracks works (mostly)

Reminder, Papers Please made immigration bureaucracy visceral in ways documentaries couldn't.

>>532691227
>It doesn't matter how much you care about the experience when you don't have any clue how to achieve it. You first need real skills before anything else.
This is not agdg's problem. Look at demo days. Plenty of demonstrated skills. Plenty of achievements. But almost no one has any actual good ideas of *what* to achieve. agdg's weakness is not lack of skills, it's lack of vision.

Anyone making a school shooting game?

>>532690881
A 'modern war' is generally considered to be anything post WW1. i.e. with machine guns, artillery, tanks and planes and not, say, muskets and line formations

But sure if you want to move the goalposts here's 3 more post 9/11 films that depict the US military poorly:
American Sniper
The Kill Team
Jarhead
Stop-Loss

Could also have had Generation Kill but you'll probably cry about that being a miniseries and not a film.

Honestly I wonder where you've been for the last 20 years if you can't think of any media criticizing the US military in Iraq and Afghanistan.

>>532691497
I'd say there's maybe only 2-4 games per DD that demonstrate a high enough level of skill that is enough to get hired at a real industry job utilizing those skills. There are also plenty of reasonably "visionary" games that are GMI if they can ever be completed (they can't due to being way overscoped).

>>532691047
Ok here's an untested idea of similar caliber to the ones you posted....

Print out a piece of paper with your game's title and a brief explanation of its gameplay and where you can buy it, put it in a bottle and throw it into the ocean. Then eventually it'll wash up on the shore and somebody will open it and see your game.

>>532691823
I prefer WW2 myself.
But no matter which way it is, few or many, it’s either an underserved market or a healthy one. In both cases it doesn’t seem like a terrible idea to make a game in the space. It’ll certainly be more interesting and noteworthy than another generic fantasy or sci fi experience.

>>532691992
>There are also plenty of reasonably "visionary" games that are GMI if they can ever be completed (they can't due to being way overscoped).
Genuinely curious as to which ones actually have a decent vision

>>532692132
Well now that you've thought about hypothetically making a game, you can relax satisfied in the feeling that you accomplished something, and can continue being a nodev with no game.

>>532692118
If it was legal to do that, and you spent $500 on it, your ROI would be much higher than spending that money on digital ads. So I think you’re on the right track. Someone might even make a post about finding your bottle and it might even go viral.

>>532692318
Well imagine if instead of a piece of paper you threw yourself into the ocean, then when you get rescued or wash up on some shore you can tell people about your game. Think about it! What a great idea.

>>532692448
I can’t tell if you’re obsessed with social media ad platforms of if you’re allergic to interesting ideas. Either way I think both outlooks are a net negative and probably a detriment to your personal build.

how do i get good at character design?

>>532689798
yes advertising on dopamine machines is also stupid (financing your competition)
youre supposed to be advertising to your audience dummy

>>532693261
What if my audience are all schizos who never look at social media or go outside or work and make every effort to block every form of ad on the web?

>>532689798
tiktok is a dogshit medium to advertise on because no one who uses it has steam on their phones so your conversion is like 1/200 or something, reddit ads are like 1/3 to 1/5

>>532691047
are you blind?
the only reason indie games are even potentially viable is lets players.

if you thousands of dollars to spend on advertising you can just pay out one of the talent management agencies the big lepers are on to force them to play your game.

>>532693697
wow daggerfall.

>>532693697
here I found a game that is the closest to this
https://x.com/JunctionEight/status/1947659663337509205
a bit noisy but still interesting to look at

>>532693697
cant wait for the deluge of slop games to come out of those, none will be good of course because there's no actual design here

>>532693580
>bro cant comprehend advertising outside of dopamine machines and old dead media
are you a boomer perchance?

>>532691823
American Sniper? You're joking, right? That was literally criticized as pro-war propaganda that turned Chris Kyle into a hero. It made $540 million and was praised by conservatives as patriotic. How is that "depicting the US military poorly"?
The Kill Team is a small indie film that most people never heard of. Box office: $290k. Compare that to Top Gun: Maverick's $1.4 billion.
Jarhead, is about soldier boredom and PTSD, not about America being wrong to invade. The message is "war is psychologically hard" not "imperial intervention is evil."
Stop-Loss is, again, about how the system hurts American soldiers, not about how America destroys other countries. Still centers American suffering.
Generation Kill, a miniseries that shows some military criticism but mainly shows Marines as competent.

>>532694034
>Advertise your game in the yellow pages.

>>532694416
I asked chatgpt for the list because putting effort into arguing with you was a waste of time and I haven't even seen those films.

But I still know I'm right

>>532694416
the big reason you dont see anti imperialist messaging in big war films is that the US gov actually donates the use of real military hardware for films to make those cool realistic scenes... as long as its a positive representation.

there really shouldnt be any influence like that in games, its just residual propaganda.

>>532694597
>a molyneux meme for merchandising

>>532692275
Yeah, alright. I overstated that one. I guess I wouldn't actually say that the game is visionary unless it also include a solid execution plan within the vision, which none of these games do.

>>532694948
Starting arguments you can't finish is certainly a way to spend your time.

>>532695103
chatgpt tried, doesn't look quite right

>>532688248
Post?

>>532695940
Outsourcing my arguments to chatgpt is clearly time efficient.
I've made progress today, have you?

>>532696000
fucking kek

>>532696138
Learn to use better AIs, I've been outsourcing every part of this conversation.

>>532696414
soon we can hopefully just have AIs run the whole thread for us

Also progress towards a game, i.e. something you wouldn't know anything about.

Would you sell out to dunkey and let him publish your game

>>532697326
My game is skinnerslop I doubt he would like it.

>>532697326
Depends on which game and how much money he'd give me

>>532697326
Keep saying it

>>532697326
yeah sure

>>532697326
publishers are parasites, there are no exceptions.

He's a youtuber, he won't take on any games that don't increase his viewership when he makes videos about them... if my game can provide views then any youtuber will feature it for free because it directly benefits their channel

>>532696138
>>532696414
>>532694948
>I have some things to do
>but I really want to win this conversation
>so I'm outsourcing my arguments
>so I can win and feel better with myself
we're hitting new levels of faggotry never seen before not even Fagtroon samefagging has reached that low
HOLY SHIT

So I was making an edgy game, is it over? I've heard there was a massive ban today

It seems my PC is too weak to use blender and krita at the same time.

I have to figure out a workflow with this limitation in mind.

>>532697975
You should be thanking us for showing you how all internet conversation in the next decade is going to look like.

>>532698037
Even I can do that and my PC is 8 years old.
However, there is one solution that will save you a ton of resources: close your Internet browser.

>>532697975
>but I really want to win this conversation
I'm actually indifferent about the outcome, I've been around long enough to know that you can't "win" an argument with anonymous retards online , it's about enjoying the moment-to-moment shitposts. But you're clearly underage so you haven't learned this yet.

>>532698390
>He doesn't have a whiteboard to keep tally of his Internet argument victories

>I look at my timer. 8 hours dwindled down to 1 hour left.

Time fwies when you are having fun.

>>532698390
The only reason you feel "indifferent" is because your AI list got BTFO by another AI so now you have to pretend like it was all good fun in the end and the real imperialism was the friends we made along the way.

Have anyone done a game that was like kof with teams of 3 wafus fighting each other, but the combat was more like a 2D autobattler that was like a non fixed grid tower defense?

Imagine saltybet but is like a touhou autobattler.

>>532675771 (OP)
-Made ultimates for the Archer and Vandal subclasses (Skirmisher and Ravager)

-Made a subclass and Ult for the Rogue (Assassin)

>>532698642
This except the fun is hair pulling code fixing.

>>532699028
cum

>>532698081
>>532698390
tell me more about your intend of deflecting your seething, you can use AI to help you to hide it.

>>532697989
Edgy is fine though.

>>532696303
wait a second...

>>532698920
>what is auto chess

What if the point isn't to make a good game or a fun game, but a game that gets talked about?

>>532699851
name one bad game that gets "talked about"

>>532699907
Hollow Knight.

>>532700213
One of the few games I have not tested. What was bad about it?

>>532700213
retard

>>532699252
So what got banned from itch io. I just woke up sorry

>>532699907
Dark Souls 2

>>532699421
I love you

>>532700874
Porn games. Or something like that. I thought it was for depictions of children but I think it's for all porn in general

Working on inputting the enemies today.
Will work on weapons next and then their interaction with enemies.

>>532701949
I thought you said the character moves and attacks by herself.

>>532701640
anything tagged nsfw, so even basic bitch games were caught in crossfire.

>>532701984
you move the character.
At the end of a turn, the cards in hand are activated - they are visible to allow you to position yourself, strategize over whats coming.
So thats weapons firing automatically in their own set ways.
Effect cards buffing the character or specific tags, weapons etc.
Other cards that spawn helpers/puppets, etc.

You control the makeup of the deck via drops and the shop. Levelling up might give you a specific currency to upgrade cards increasing their stats.

survivorslike but it's a manager and you hire heroes that act on their own accord

>>532702637
This, but it's a CRPG.

bruh I've seen at least 3 different butt styles and 2 elbow/knee types by now and that's excluding the bad tutorials
tutorials are feeding me conflicting information

>>532702684
this, but it's a plaformer puzzle-like

>>532703642
This, but it's only real in my mind.

100% happy with this newer workflow.

>>532704080
mental illness

>>532704080
Unfiltered childlike SOVL

if I'm ever 100% happy with something I know I fucked up

>>532704390
relax

these new TF2 maps fucking SUCK

Am I a bad person for wanting games to suck so that I can have more success with my game that does not suck?
Is that selfishness? How do I fix myself and get rid of that feeling.

>>532704761
Your game can't suck because it doesn't even exist.

my next loli will be brown

>>532704845
Humor me

>>532704080
Great! 100%! That means there's no further to go! Time to work on the actual game instead of endlessly """""""""improving""""""""" right!??????? RRIIIGGGHHHTTTT???????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????

>>532705079
I'll be 100% honest.

2D HD art was my biggest roadblock to make it so far.

I just havent figured out how to make 2D HD waifu animations cheaply until now.

Hey I was just wondering if there have been any viral AI clips on twitter featuring a castle in the distance? Been looking everywhere for a clip like this but they basically never get posted.. smdh...

>>532705370
Cant wait to see the absolutely baffling gameplay you come up with. The catapult game was bad enough

100% happy with this.

>>532706535
Cris I genuinely don't see how that is any different from the art in this meme made over a year ago

>>532706787
texturing work is now much better.

you're literally comparing the topology of an older model.

but the point isn't practice modeling but texturing.

>>532704554
i love tf2 but isn't the same playing without friends

buying a plane ticket to Bolivia to open up blender on cris's computer and loading in a decent reference image

buying a plane ticket to bolivia and put a bomb under cris's bed.

My game will outsource inventory management. So whenever you hit sort on your inventory a team in India will actually do the sorting and that information will be sent back to your computer so your inventory will now be updated to a sorted state.

My inventory system is in the works and my design is already better than the games I'm copying
BTFO'd

>>532707673
Bro just write a sorting algorithm.

Art asset creation is so miserable. No wonder artists always end up ghosting (sometimes even when they're project lead!)

>>532708998
true, programmers are useless if the project doesn't have at least 3 artists in charge of the assets.

>>532707846
what resources/tutorials did you use? i wanna work on my inventory

>>532708998
>>532709225
what if i programmed an artist

>>532711102
You mean locally running an image generator?

>>532707846
your design isnt playable
ideas in your head arent a game
retard

kill youreself
nigger

I need help with programming. But in all honesty I'm not even sure if this is a programming issue
>Program works just fine, zero compiler issues.
>Specifically I'm doing a DMC1 style camera
>Character keeps jittering up and down like they're pseudo-jumping when I move. This keeps happening even when the character jumps. They also drift around

>>532711648
Can you post a webm, it'd be easier

I'm charging 30 for my game. I think it's right.

Figuring out what you really want is the hard part. Getting it is easy.

>>532712207
I just pirated your game

>>532681876
>If it is good it will be successful without advertising.
Wrong. Plenty of 95% positive games with <50 reviews. There's just too many games coming out for every good game to get enough exposure.

>>532711648
does the character have physics interaction with the floor?

>>532712765
That is not a good game and has a shitty style

>>532712765
No amount of money or exposure will sell this game.

>>532659014
Hey guys remember me from last thread? I made a sale.
It's not over yet.

>Ha! I'm a genius! No one thought of this before!
>Souls games technically have a lot of stances but really they are just combat states. You have 1 hand, 2 hand, blocking, jumping, dodging, ducking.
>In my mmo-like rpg what if instead of players constantly inputting actions in a rotation, players just set their state and then let the auto attack do everything. Make it a somewhat relaxed idle combat system like Runescape
>Wait...like Runescape? Like the combat styles that weapons in Runescape already have?
FUCK
All my ideas just end up being Runescape again. Maybe that's a good thing?

At least with my idea the combat style would have more dimensions. You have defensive ( shield up/weapon blocking while not attack), 1h/2h/dual wield, and then weapons could have Slash/Thrust/Strike attacks

>>532712910
Yes, there is a groundcheck
>>532711719
I can't find any good screen recording software

>>532713672
are you going to tell us what is your game now?

>>532714073
Runescape3's revolution system is actually really good design.

>>532714335
why so you fuckers can make fun of me? hell no

>>532714465
Have you considered making a game that would impress us instead?

Slowly figuring out painting.

progress

>>532714172
>How to WebM
https://obsproject.com
https://github.com/argorar/WebMConverter
https://github.com/michaelmob/WebMCam

>>532714172
Is OBS too advanced for you? If so then game dev is not for you

>>532714820
I'm a recovering loliholic and you are not helping.
What are you going to do now that platforms are cracking down on content like this?

>>532714820
thanks for the free reference

added jump animations and a unused gun for a mod to make ads, run animations and others
vid tomorrow I hope

>>532712917
>>532712954
97% positive. It's good. It's better than your games.

is it even possible to make decent third person camera shooter controls in unity

>>532715703
Copy marvel rivals

>>532715289
Maido.

>>532715703
Unity has a whole camera asset that makes it easier than any other engine, so yes.

Threadly reminder that even gamedev success can be a trap.
Imagine your game earns you 10 years of income. Would you quit your job and start making games full time? If so, you'd have fallen into the same trap I did.
The crux of the trap is the time you spend as a gamedev will count against you if ever need to get a job again. And the ironic thing is the more successful you are, the more dangerous the trap will be unless you earn enough money to never need a job again.
The only way full-time gamedev would be sustainable is if your games keep earning at least a year of expenses for every year worked... until you're literally 75. And I do mean literally. When you're 72, you'll need to sit down and make a game that earns you 3 years of expenses. Anything short of that and you'll eventually run out of money. And when you do, you'd have been 10-15-20 years out of the job market and good luck getting a job with that employment gap.
When you run out of money, it can take as little as a couple of months for your life to be ruined. That's what happened to me. I found myself broke at 45 and no job for the past 15 years except making games. And I'm looking at 30 more years of having to survive. I can't get job interviews, I can't afford to keep working on games, and I'm too old to get into trades. My life is probably fucked because my first project earned me 10 years of income and I quit my job like a dumb ass.
Anyway, the point of this is to warn you: DO NOT QUIT YOUR JOBS UNLESS YOU EARNED ENOUGH MONEY TO NEVER NEED A JOB AGAIN. If my warning saves even a couple of you, it's worth it.

>but why didn't you invest your money and live off your investments you idiot?
Average return on an investment portfolio is said to be around 10%... before capital gains tax (10-20%) and inflation (2-5%). The real returns (again, before tax) are 5.2%. And you're not going to get your game earnings as a lump sum but over months or even years. Do the math.

>>532715194
you already stole my loli witch and posted it on /v/, my lawyers will be contacting you soon.
>>532715068
i will keep going forward until they kill me

>>532715612
The cope is off the charts

The game is ugly; the camera is too far out. It looks amateurish. It might be fun. It looks like a hobby project.

What keeps you all from killing yourselves?

>>532716030
cool but why do you have to insist on being so obnoxious about your fetish
>>532716096
inertia

>>532712765
nigga this ain't eBaum's World in 2004

>>532716030
Can you generate a sfw full body one? I need some reference for a new model.

>>532716060
97% positive. It's good. It's right there in the number.

>>532715985
cinemachine? it feels wonky no matter what I do

>>532716232
>generate
huh?

>>532716030
I admire your spirit even if I don't support what you are doing.

>>532716060
>It looks amateurish
>N-no, this uglier game looks professional, it's a deliberate artistic deconstruction

>0 progress posts
>pedophiles all over the shop
it might be time to leave agdg for good

>>532716341
Stop playing dumb and just do it.

>>532716475
>>0 progress posts
>>532715289

>>532716448
Before I looked at the review count I was going to say this game looked better. So in a way I was vindicated because, yeah, it sold a lot better. Of course. Some of you need to get real, or get a new set of eyes. This is obviously more aesthetically pleasing than roody 2d. It's way more about placement usually than it is about the individual art assets. Indies have no taste.

>>532716475
>0 progress posts
>>532714820

>>532716614
>static model of a fat nerd wearing a maid costume holding a gun

>>532716096
My meme coin might save me from having rolled 1 and being born in Israhell

>>532716060
>It looks amateurish.

>>532716484
meds

>>532687781
because you keep pretending you've figured something out when it all looks like the same ugly shit with ugly characters with bad proportions

>>532716060
>It looks amateurish.

>>532716942
Good story > Ugly and Complicated

>>532716740
yes and?

>>532717394
why do retards never seem to understand how would an rpg maker sprite look as low poly model?

how the fuck a model designed to generate 64x64 sprites should look like then, retardo?

>>532696303
kill yourself

>>532696303
holy uoh she's so cute

>>532696303
>>532714820
>3dpd unironic pedophile post
>kannadev is on the thread
uhhhh kannaxisters...

Best game engine?

>>532718257
you are confusing the loli modelers again

>>532717489
she ugly

https://youtu.be/P9yVi4LhIVE?t=553
I was watching a random video of indie games and at 9:13 the guy start ranting about Tricky Madness

>>532718614
>256 reviews
not bad

>256 review is not bad by modern /agdg/ standards
GRIM

>>532718765
i would say it's a flop but some yall gone done worse so he's not bad

>>532693916
That's the perfect example of why a low res render approach does not work for this. That game is all noise. It looks awful. You need something that is able to present distant things with clarity.

>>532712765
If your game is highly rated but low review count it would suggest that you failed you make your game appealing.

>>532715612
A game with 60% reviews at 100 is better than one with 97% at 41. You didn't optimize for catching people's attention and that's why your game failed. Maybe the game's good but it doesn't matter if nobody buys it. The review % doesn't matter either because it's too lowly reviewed for people to care when they stumble upon it.

>>532716448
>>532716942
>>532717402
Reviews speak for themselves. These games have something that Roody doesn't.

>>532712765
The anon who likes the post the average hours played to explain why a game failed ignores Roody2d because it has both great reviews and a high average playtime. Truth is if it came out in in 2018 instead of 2023 it would have done much better.

>>532692797
that design is so ass blud fr

>>532719045
Wrong, he ignores Roody2d because it's an unfinished game, so the data isn't accurate.

>>532718716
>not bad
>gross revenue 55k
>net revenue 35k
a teenager working their first job at a fast food joint would earn more

>>532717568
>why do retards never seem to understand how would an rpg maker sprite look as low poly model?
your ugly ass models look nothing like those sprites

>how the fuck a model designed to generate 64x64 sprites should look like then, retardo?
if you want to pre-render sprites you have to make good looking models, usually with overemphasized proportions and features

they can't look like weird deformed weeb golems and you also can't have pixelated textures because those pixels showing up on the render as mixels makes it look like shit

>>532692797
That one is just copying...

>>532719194
>working a jobby
>easy
>making money from your game
>quite possibly one of the most difficult things in the world to do, actual more difficult than rocket science level

>>532719070
rude

>>532719045
>Truth is if it came out in in 2018 instead of 2023 it would have done much better.
indeed, it would've been a 60 review game instead of a 40 review game

>>532719045
The truth is that it's not that good of a game and I'm tired of pretending that it is.

>>532719227
that's because you're looking at the low poly model and not the final pixel art sprite.

retardo.

>>532718879
>Reviews speak for themselves. These games have something that Roody doesn't.
by that reasoning Fifty Shades of Grey is one of the best novels ever written because it's popular.
>B-but that argument is invalid because games are not books
just accept it, things become popular (and thus highly profitable) for reasons other than quality. it's why advertising is a thing, it's why endorsements are a thing.

>>532714897
Is OBS some kind of programming physics thing?

>>532719292
>Alice in wonderland invented little blonde girls
No it didn't.

>>532719480
>Fifty Shades of Grey is one of the best novels ever written because it's popular.
Yes.

>>532719526
smartest unity dev

>>532719463
>ugly model
>fucked up proportions
>shitty pixel texture
>flat shading visible on the render
>ugly dithering to try to hide how fucking ugly the model is
still looks like shit

you never learn

>>532719782
retard literally looks at 2 years old sprite.

>>532716096
Warrior mentality.

https://x.com/de5imulate/status/1948574658850115712

the prompt engineer from THAT webm is starting an indie studio to make it a game....

>>532719594
ToT laurita

>>532719480
>Fifty Shades of Grey is one of the best novels ever written
It is.

cris is a living proof that practice, time spent, and perseverance doesn't have anything to do with learning.

>>532716335
Don't try to use the orbital camera. I don't know what it's supposed to be for but it's sure not for third person games.

What you do is you use a cameraTarget object that's parented to the character and positioned as you want the camera. Set up the cinemachine camera to follow and look at that object and then you control that object to rotate the camera.

>>532720008
>no funds
>literal idea guy tier mindset
So another grifter that means less competition for me?

>pedo
>spic

>>532706858
show the old vs new

>>532720042
>implying he hasn't learned more than the nodevs here
He's made like thirty games by the way.

>>532720130
he's indian (desi) he can fund the whole studio from his xitter posts, do you know how many rupees he earned with that post alone?

>>532719897
then why the fuck do you post a 2 year old sprite?

still looks like shit just a tiny little bit less shit and you're back to making this ugly thing >>532685986

this >>532719897 is almost usable in a 3d game like it's ugly but if you manage to improve the textures then it could be alright as a 3d model and you should pursue this path rather than try to make your ugly gremlin characters into sprites

>>532694597
>>532696303
kill yourself pedo eceleb worshipping turdie troon
i will slaughter you

>>532720415
zero because he made a post where he said x restricted him

I've been looking into taxes for Americans.
Here's what chatgpt says on a million $ revenue:
Maryland C-Corp 21% federal = $210,000
+ 8.25% MD = $82,500 23.8% dividend on $707,500 = $168,385 $460,885 total, $539,115 take home
I think the dividend taxes would be a bit less.
Ireland Corp (CFC) 12.5% corporate = $125,000 — GILTI = ~$5,000 (after FTC) $130,000 total, $870,000 take home
Puerto Rico Act 60 4% corporate = $40,000 $15,000 required costs 4% dividend on $945,000 = $37,800 $92,800 total, $907,200 take home
Something to note: For a CFC(controlled foreign corporation) you need an office and employees in the country of incorporation and you cannot perform duties from inside the US, you might need to only work in the country of incorporation, I can't remember.
Also to note, for Puerto Rico Act 60 company, you must stay there 3 years 183 days of the year at least, can't spend more than 120 days in the US (not sure how long you can stay, needs more research), also you need to buy a house in puerto rico within two years. If you make over 3 million you also need a full time employee who is a Puerto Rican resident.
>If I ever stop being a nodev and have a successful kickstarter and move to puerto rico, would any of you have interest in forming an AGDG community over there. What if I payed you 30k per year to work on your own game and I take a small cut of the revenue?

>>532720676
>What if I payed you 30k per year to work on your own game and I take a small cut of the revenue
1%? Deal.

New DK game is making me want to scopecreep some voxel terrain into my game. How's that voxel digger asset for Unity? Looks pretty suspicious from the reviews.

>>532720623
lol

>>532720258
making thirty babby's first game prototypes doesn't count as thirty games

>>532720432
you're basically missing the point of why I would practice texturing on an older rigged and animated model that is already finished in my older style, and then ask why the fuck am I practicing texturing with it instead of doing a full newer complete rigged and animated model.

Why is like, why the fuck would I do that when I want to practice texturing?

So are RPGs as first games just doomed propositions from the start, even if it's very linear/small in scope?

>>532720816
How did they make destruction work so smoothly on the switch 2?

>>532720757
I was thinking 20% considering most of AGDG games will never make their investment back.
Because I need a full time employee at all times, if I want to visit my family and be away from puerto rico a few months out of the year, I would need to shift the full time position away from myself and onto either an aggydagger or onto a local Puerto Rican. As long as there is always a full time employee of the company on the island it is fine, it can shift from one person to another.

>>532721017
you're backpedaling so hard

what happened to btfoing /agdg/?

>>532720816
I doubt anyone here has used it

>>532721113
Do you want to tell a story or do you want to make a game with satisfying RPG character building and combat systems or something else? Figure out why you want to make an RPG and optimize everything else out so that you end up with a small scope project that does what you want to do.

>>532717343
finished modelling her legs
progress

>>532719594
So it is.

>>532721113
You can make one easily in a day with RPG Maker.

https://x.com/KeorUnreal/status/1948070792950084064

well?

>>532721323
kill yourself AI slopper pedoshit

>>532721465
meds

>>532721147
How about 15%?

>>532721465
oh no not the ai's feelings!

>>532721143
It's not really that smooth, but thanks to hitstop and a shitload of collectables spawning and animated environment pieces, you don't feel any jank. The smoothest thing is the "pull a piece out of the ground," which I imagine they're precalculating during the windup animation.

>>532721297
I would like to tell a story but I honestly have come to realize that I think I'm just a nothing person. Like, I do have ideas and characters, and have outlined stories before, but every time I start trying to commit any of it to a tangible product (primarily writing or music) it's just hot ass. I feel like I'm just not a person of substance, but I also don't want to just keep NOT creating stuff, since the desire has nagged at me for literally a decade on and off at this point.

But more pertaining to the topic: I was considering a VN but worry that cannot really translate into gaining experience for increased scope in the future the same way a mini-RPG can.

I CAN'T REPLICATE THE BUG

>>532721717
>using AI for that tame ass roleplay instead of toddlercon rape play

>>532721465
BASED

>>532721153
why do retards can't understand the point of a practice session?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lpivZUPvevs
Just make 17 games bro

>>532721897
>toddlercon rape play
alicedev aka squareanon moment

>>532721113
>>532721771
Have you ever written a novel, or even a short fanfiction? RPG contain several novels worth of text.

what if you gave yourself a year to make each game?

We all laughed at the whole Brahmin high verbal IQ thing, yet the most viral AI post ever is from a Brahmin. He would've never been able to make it without AI.

>>532721987
Quantity > Quality

Anybody here ever use trenchbroom to make maps? seems comfy so far, but also kind of limited with no decal support

>>532722189
for what reason

>>532722493
>Anybody here ever use trenchbroom to make maps?
theres a lot of godotdevs that do like goblindev

>>532722502
to actually finish something

>>532722065
Yes, I have. Unfortunately a lot of it is lost to time/drive failure, but writing is the only hobby I've actually maintained to any degree.

>>532716096
I gotta make the trilogy of games with my Thougheverbeit.
Neither of us will have a wrinkle on our attractive faces thoughever, because I'm dissolving this world before that happens.

>>532722680
why do i care if i finish if it's garbage

>>532722741
because you'll get better after each game

>>532722706
Post it. Let's see.

>>532720008
That webm must go so hard if you poop in the street

>>532722737
Where you been? How's that engine going?

>>532722843
I'll post progress once I deem that it is ready to show. I'm almost at the Devlog 1 Milestone and then I'll finally go on YouTube with a GreenScreen.

>>532721542
I could probably work with 15%. We'll talk in a few years, anony. When I've got a million bucks.

this website has literally any texture you could want, low res version is free
bricks wood grass etc. its for real estate or some shit
https://architextures.org/textures/category/brick

>>532722912
I'll be waiting. May your days be ever well.

>>532721939
you post similar shit every day and it always looks like ass

>>532722232
>We all laughed
no we didn't

I don't find your streetshitterposting funny please fuck off

>>532723120
imagine not seeing the progress then claiming there's none.

I dunno I'm warming up on AI slop, I think it can produce some cool visuals.

>>532722808
I hope I'm not being difficult by declining to share.

>>532720008
it's gonna be so hilarious when they vibecode a game with AI assets and it makes bank

>>532723385
Sorry, but if you don't have any writing you're willing to post and share, I don't believe you have the writing ability to make an RPG or VN. Get to practicing. Small fanfictions are the easiest to start with.

>>532723493
https://x.com/AaronBeal/status/1948585045394161768

agdg thinks the pigs won't enjoy the slop, that's the worst part

>>532723574
That's fair.

>>532723334
It can produce cool everything. I wish it didn't exist but there's no putting that genie back in the bottle.

>>532723632
the only thing ai can't replace is the touch of a woman, unfortunately many of us male devs don't possess this

AI will never replace real artists

>>532723745
AI can't replace anything.
It'd be more accurate to say it's out-competing humans in terms of costs.
This is probably why Indians like it so much since they are essentially doing the same thing.
They produce garbage that's maybe 50% as good, but at 30% of the cost so it makes sense in a spreadsheet to fire 9000 people and replace them with 11000 visa holders.

>>532723745
Which is what will make women the new human overclass (as if they're not already at least in the west). You'll have robot plumbers before you have a realistic fembot.

AI WON, arrogant shartists LOST.

>>532723906
>It'd be more accurate to say it's out-competing humans in terms of costs.
out-competing quality in terms of costs is how tech progresses. first it competes on cost, then it advances enough to compete on quality. the human intellectual/artistic potential has already been reached or close enough. AI on the other hand is just getting started. the only thing keeping 80% humans in employment is the taboo of replacing them with machines. cars and trucks can already drive better and safer than humans can. there's less hesitation in replacing human artists and other creatives because it won't result in disasters, but make no mistake, it will eat every human job in the end.

>>532724301
Bro, I'm not reading your replies because there's a high chance that you generated that shit with an AI, and if you don't care enough to write it then I don't care enough to read it.

>>532723603
That guy is Indian lmao

honestly doing painting on Krita using a stencil workflow on the viewport, is like having substance painter but leaner and for free.

no more sister wars

>>532723905
I'd rather have AI than this disgusting dogshit

>>532720008
the "this viral game concept got made and no one bought it?!" posts are gonna generate SO mucb dopamine

>>532723281
you've been at this for years, there is none

>>532725359
ackshually it's endorphins

Suffering builds character.

>>532723905
kill yourself

Weekend morning dev time baby

>>532726469
every day is weekend to me
we're not the same
I can't find a job, I'd give up gamedev for a minimum wage job

>Soon Brits may not be able to post on this site at all.
Do we have any Brit devs? I think we might be affected much less than some other communities.

It's too quiet...

>>532727383
pedofag got banned again

>>532727383
Shut the fuck up and work on your game.

>>532727631
nuh huh

>>532727631
the creature is ban evading all the time, need to rangeban all latinx and slavix "countries" to get rid of xem

Why does every modern game seem to be about collecting loot for the sake of numbers go up or literal job simulators? Even the indie ones.

I don't fucking understand people anymore. Brainstorming ideas for a package delivery game... what the fuck do people find interesting about walking for an hour?

>>532728636
damn dude why you gotta call me like that
i think it's fun

>>532716096
The desire to be someone

>>532726659
>We might lose Brits forever but keep Aussies, Israelis, South Americans, and Indians

>>532728636
>Brainstorming ideas for a package delivery game... what the fuck do people find interesting about walking for an hour?
Why are you forcing yourself to make a game in a genre you don't find fun?
I don't like FIFA, you don't see me making football games.

wagie simulator fatigue is happening already

Two dreams crushed this week: becoming a successful coomerdev and living as a rich sexpat in Thailand

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bG8Yq9ecbsY

this nigga made a NGMI steam game on a hyipster libtard handheld called playdate and he apparently made 8k in sales, tf?

>>532729002
Playdatefags are hipsters but unlike the average steamfag they actually like video games and appreciate trying new things.

lolis and incest are killed is big tiddies safe?

>>532729059
i didnt even know it existed before looking it up, aint no way that game would let him recoup the steam fee if i he released on pc

>>532728830
Okay, put your brain to work, what's the next big thing? We need to guess it before it goes mainstream so we can have a head-start.

>>532729514
princess maker games

>using ai to code and do all the art for your game is perfectly fine as illustrated by those castle webms
>but doing everything yourself and using ai ONLY for voice acting is LE BAD!!!! SLOP!!! SLOP!!!!
why is it like this?

>>532728636
No one but yourself is stopping you from making a narrative game.

gamers will reach an age where they'll have a desire to start families and have children. this period will be the boom of princess maker simulators since many of them will end up maidenless and daughterless.

>>532728636
big chunk of games got turned into dopamine simulators for the doom scrolling part of the populace

>>532730067
pedo tranny moment

>>532723906
Ironically AI is what will replace indians in this industry. A westie programmer can not be replaced by AI, what it can replace though is offshored currycode projects that even until now have been barely even worth doing.

>>532730184
The problem is that AI might be more expensive than Indian labor.
Remember that AI is kept artificially cheap because they want to achieve market quota at the moment and still have investor money to burn. Their ultimate goal is to jack up the price once everyone is already using AI.
Most tech companies follow this business model starting out.

DK Bananza is making me want to add a young girl companion to my game

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ja46a2I-i0Y

Jeez I was wondering why sculpting was so clumsy but then turns out when you low poly with subdiv it can only work on the base topology
makes sense

>>532730546
sculpting is done on high poly models

subdiv is a different workflow

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kBYBwILYTpM

could this work as a game idea? i would add hunting pedos as a feature too personally

>>532730639
I use subdiv to test corves and outlines that are less apparent with the rough edges

Watching the latest Brush solitaire. Looks like the solitaire guy is about to become a millionaire after 20 years

>>532729201
meet & fuck dune?

>>532730458
ellie?

>>532730712
you will never be white, brownoid

>>532730789
good, poison your transcoded mind with NGMI eceleb slop.. oh wait, you're a nodev hahahah
imagine being a nodev in the AI era, whiteoids are so weak LMFAO

>>532730973
t. Dalit

>>532729514
Slopelikes

>>532730954
YWNBAW KRAKAPOW

>>532729514
Daggerfall-like

>>532729514
You deliver things except in the post-apocalypse and you’re in a comfy van.

>>532729514
it’s going to cycle back to farming sims soon

>>532731202
why are you brownies so obnoxius
cris, fygoon, you always chimping out

>>532731176
>Sisyphus, but you push the boulder up to the castle
Kino

>>532731503
if you cant take it dont start it, "karen"

>>532731639
oh I also forgot about the pedo poster

>>532731503
they're subhuman and they know it

>>532731809
we dont claim xim, xhe is mayo coded
>>532731837
we won

>>532731929
>we dont claim xim, xhe is mayo coded
lol "shitting on the thread is fine unless it's loli", nah you are all the same

>>532728636
>why do people like games
gee idk anon

ITT Brazilians vs Slavs over who's more subhuman

>>532731990
nah we too high test to like scrawny children he one of youse and thats that lil yakubian monkey

Did 3 palms today to practice the topology and steps
made a meh female torso, breastless for now
Break now I guess.

>>532732263
>breastless

>>532677028
Putin enforces the same laws in Russia today still.

>>532732293
Yeah, you know because I haven't gotten to them yet.

>>532731929
>be brownie
>be incapable of creating anything
>if whites disappear everything they gave you disappear with them
you lost by being a brownie

Can't we really have sensible discussion in here? This isn't /pol/ - go to pol if you want to be a huge faggot.

>>532694416
>but mainly shows Marines as competent.
Because they were. And yet, despite that training (arguably because of it) they accidentally kill a bunch of civilians during the course of the show because of circumstance or orders. If you think that's portraying the US invasion of Iraq in a positive light, especially once it switches from invasion to occupation, you're insane and not arguing anything in good faith here.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ghWrOsOXbN4
>just make tennis but better
>???
>profit
this is why you start with pong

>>532732538
we, the Mediterranean people, invented civilization and talked with God, we are the protagonists

>>532733191
looks transcoded

>>532722493
>old brush based map editor screenshot
Scared me for a second that he who shall not be named was posting again.

>>532733293
well it does have "xisters" in the title

>>532732896
>socialized as white
Nigga's turnin' his back on da community 'n shiet. Why you's actin' like a cracka, Oreoboi

>>532733207
Pay denbts

>>532731501
SDV is still like within top 10 on steam for player count.

>>532733590
>nepobaby game pushed by hollywood and microsoft released 20 years ago
ok, how are the numbers for more realistic games? surely you can give us numbers for farming games released in the last 2-3 years

>>532733293
If it's 2025 and you're not trans or at least AGP you stand no chasakjm0nce in gamedev

>>532733846
>chasakjm0nce

>>532733802
>surely you can give us numbers for farming games released in the last 2-3 years

Tales of mistria or whatever the fuck it was is also up there for a game released by randoms. I think it was purely carried by the fact that some chubby but doable looking chick streamed it during next fest.

>>532733992
Fields of mistria*

https://steamdb.info/app/2142790/charts/

>>532734063
>gamemaker
holy shit

>>532733207
>Community notes: This user lives in Delhi, India.

>>532734302
It's a real ugly looking game too, everything is pastel colors with no contrast. It must be women or trannies playing it exclusively.

>>532720008
That first post of his got 47 million views, his first project, slop or not, is making millions purely from exposure and momentum.

>>532734656
Yeah, normies always like soulless shit that can be mass-produced. It's like they look for the most soulless shit ever and ignore anything else.

/agdg/’s turn at being famous for 15 minutes will come… and I won’t benefit because Hypercoven still hasn’t been added to the OP links

is there a system like this in godot where you simply apply a texture to a face of an object from a single list of textures and then you can rotate the texture around sideways or mirror flip it afterwards

>>532734897
There is some significant promise to THAT webm, which is a large living world that you can actually see in the distance. Almost no games offer that. Starfield famously failed to live up to it.

>>532735017
No.

Look up crocotile3d.

>>532735128
Yeah well so what? As if nobody imagined such a game before. Also MMO's and Elder Scrolls, whatever, have done this many times decades ago to various extinct's.

>>532735017
I think this one does it.
https://github.com/blackears/cyclopsLevelBuilder

My art power level is too low. texturing is everything that turns an empty vessel to art. AIslop is my only choice until at least a year away.

>>532735017
GridMaps

Okay. fuck Terrain editior in unity, Way too detailed for me.
I'm going back to just using Cubes and transforming them to walls and floor and ramps.

>>532735295
>until at least a year away
literal kindergartner thinks a year is a long time

>>532735384
No they don't. you choose 3d assets from a list. you have to make a wall, ceiling and a floor with the same texture and export them. and you can't mirror them. not what he asked about.

>>532735487
Make a plane mesh with a texture. Rotate to mirror.

>>532735205
I agree the idea is obvious. But now you’re mentioning TES. So it’s not exactly soulless, eh?
If anything, the whole thing proves that there is still an audience which doesn’t just eat up Starfield and be happy, but wants a better game.

I mean, I also agree that this indie studio they’re founding will probably also fail to make the vision come true, and instead ship some abysmal slop. But (You) are not making it come true either, so why be mad?

>>532734597
>It's a real ugly looking game too, everything is pastel colors with no contrast.
You guys are so out of touch I don't know if it's funny or sad.

>>532735654
AI slop is soulless because it's made by an algorithm that was directed by a human using a string of words that map to concepts and pre-existing imagery in the AI's neural networks. That's why I think it's soulless, it requires no effort from the random human user that decides to generate AI slop. No skill required. No thinking except for a short string of words required. No discipline required. Nothing, it's empty.

>>532735643
ANON READ WHAT HE SAID HE WANTS TO SELECT TEXTURES FROM A LIST NOT MESHES
A QUAD WALL IS A MESH
ROTATING IS NOT MIRORRING DUMB NIGGER
ROTATE YOUR PALM 180 DEGREES AND SEE IF IT LOOKS LIKE YOUR OTHER PALM

>>532735681
That looks fucking awful, but then again I'm not a woman or trans.

>>532735829
you will never make a game then

>enjoying some pre-swim quiet right now
I need to empty my brain of thought and stimuli before I start gamedev for the day.

>>532735681
looks transcoded

>>532735818
It would look exactly like my other palm if my hand was a plane with a texture in it. Have a look for yourself, it took me 10 seconds.

Anyone has experience of porting linux C11 code to MSVC? I haven't even looked into it but I must do it some day for my game. I'd assume it just mainly works with minor differences, but as I said, I have no freaking clue.

>>532734656
>47 million views on twitter
that's like $100

>>532736518
On x86_64 linux, it compiles and links statically using both clang and gcc, no warnings. And I'm using raylib so I expect that part to just work desu.

>>532735681
I feel completely alienated and left behind by modern gaming

>Got feedback on the demo
Yep time to correct bug.

>>532736518
Uh, depends on whether you’re using any linux.h.
Generally what can be a good alternative to using MSVC on Windows to compile, is staying on Linux and using the MingW toolchain. Much nicer experience than fiddling with the absolute trash Visual Studio Installer. There are pacman repos for mingw.

>>532736624
Good, now you're one step closer to making outsider art.

>>532736940
I don't have problem with MSVC even though visual studio is indeed trash. I use cmake which makes the project file generation trivial and I assume MSVC to produce better executables than a MinGW toolchain though this is just a blind assumption.

>>532736940
And no I don't use any linux-specific headers unless something very minor such as <bool.h> is linux-specific, I have no clue but those should be easy enough to correct later.

Can bongs even browse 4chin without doxxing themselves to the gubmint anymore? Or just red boards? What if someone post something lewd here and it stays up for a while before janny cleans it? Would bongs be breaking the law viewing that image? hashtag gamedev

https://x.com/Mizrhamite/status/1948877339451859212

anti AI are eceleb worshipping troons

>>532736687
You fucked up. You should've stated your problem instead of stating your incorrect solution and asking it to fix it.

The correct answer is if Player is Layer 1, Enemy needs to be Layer 2 with Player's Mask both Layer 1 and 2, and Enemy's Mask only Layer 1

I should be programming but I can't stop staring at my triangulated polygons. I really struggled with this yesterday even though in the end it's not that complicated, it was more difficult to implement than to understand.

nigga I'm boutta SLIP INTO A BLIND RAGE

>>532737639
>MY DISCORD SERVER. THAT I OWN.
what a fucking idiot. he doesn't own discord servers. you want to own a server, buy hardware and connect it online.

lmao

>>532738015
Good work as usual

>>532737640
>xitter link
>[plebbit space]
>anti AI are eceleb worshipping troons

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oFHXIW37NBM
uuuuh, new Gabe just dropped, I guess

uh oh, gay homo LTBG fangirl is mad
dont talk shit about xer ecelebs

>>532738515
Who is this rando interviewing a billionaire

>>532738515
>If you're a filmmaker and you're not using AI you're going to fall behind

>>532738669
I literally have no idea, also the sound quality is shit af

we love AI in here and no LGTB is gonna change that

if you dont like you can go to reddit gamedev

what do you call this category of "game"?

Americans are mentally ill
Their entire culture is about maximalization, competition, and beating everyone else
it's why all the american devs are terminal losers who never finish anything
their entire society is mentally ill

>>532738881
I don’t call it a game.

>>532737640
>anti AI are eceleb worshipping troons
This is a surprise to you? Anti-AI troons are literal retards who follow the general consensus instead of forming their own opinions. This was apparent since day one

>>532738881
it says right there in the screenshot, anon

>>532737751
thanks!

>>532738424
The fate of 99.9% of games, actually no, most games wont even get this many players.

The only thing that the last 3 years of AI advancement did is prove that humanity will never create artificial intelligence.
Billions of dollars worth of energy and you can't replicate even the power of a single human brain.

>>532738712
What does that mean though?
Fall behind? Fall behind what?
It makes me think of The Thing prequel where they used these really great looking practical effects to film the movie and the execs were like
>Oh no guys this looks like a movie from the 80s we gotta slop it up with bad CGI because... because we just do!
and oh my god man the movie looked like shit and everyone hated it.
This is that mindset.
>Oh my god guise you're gonna fall behind if you don't use the slop machine!
Suck my ass faggot.
This is why his company can't produce good games anymore fucking sad.

>>532738015
I like this artstyle

I agree that AI is just the new CGI. That's pretty much it. Another shortcut that allows you to make things worse

>>532739379
haha yeah man things suck amirite let's talk about how things totally suck now man haha not back in the day

>>532739579
>>532739379
>>532739305
What is this tranny seething about now?

>>532739379
Based and great example The Thing 2011

>>532739379
>What does that mean though?

It means you won't be able to compete, your margins are going to go negative and you'll be forced into bankruptcy. You'll fall into a financial hole that you won't be able to ever climb out of because once you lose your job you won't be able to get another one without AI.

>>532739664
Age has nothing to do with it though. CGI sucked thirty years ago and it sucks now.
There was like a brief period in the mid 2000s where it was passable because there were at the time there were I think two western studios producing CGI. They were really really good at it.
Guess where most movie CGI is produced today?

>>532739968
haha idk man tell us all about this thing you hate and have learnt about, do things suck or what? haha

>>532739968
If AI is the new CGI, then logically there must be a "good use of AI" just like how there was good use of CGI? Oh, right, you won't ever admit that because you're a deranged lunatic.

That's right, just keep shitting out forgettable interchangeable disposable "content" for the masses and never produce anything with lasting value

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wy_fPm2xLH8
most of these games are shit and wouldn't get more than 50 reviews if they came out today. some of them look like the games being posted here.

we need to stop using technology, why? because a movie from 2011 wasnt good!!!

>>532740170
Most rational anti-AI tranny argument.

>>532739968
The funniest thing is that those good CGI companies closed down for exactly this reason >>532738515
They were outcompeted by cheap labour from the third world which is why it became worse and worse. Here's your free market economy bro lmao. The free market doesn't self regulate.
Free market = decline of quality
Always. Forever.

>anti-ai troon is a communist
HAHAHAHAHAHHA LIKE FUCKING POTTERY

>>532686567
how do you explain games like gothic that restrict player freedom, but are still successful

Post your bleeding edge AI game bro

I started asking ChatGPT about development and programming and it's actually really useful.

>>532741032
welcome to 2022, anon.

>If you're not outsourcing to India and using nanite and lumen with 100gb of raw photogrammetry scans you're going to fall behind
>WTF? Why did our game fail??

My gamedev inspiration

>>532719998
This is the way.

>>532741628
looks furrycoded

>have to make inventory system
>lose all desire to work on game
I hate logistical systems so fucking much I just want to make bing bing wahoo code