Electrifying Edition

>Latest patch:
https://forums.playdeadlock.com/threads/07-29-2025-update.72760/

>Steam Page:
https://store.steampowered.com/app/1422450/

>Where to leave feedback and report bugs:
https://forums.playdeadlock.com/

>How do I git in?
Post your Steam profile and ask. You need to accept a friend request to be invited, so don't be autistic.

>How do I git gud?
Do the tutorial, get a feel for each hero in sandbox mode, explore public item builds, watch replays. Playing a Hero for the first time will put you into a lower rank game*, so don't worry about it too much.

Additional Resources:
>Unofficial Wiki
https://deadlocked.wiki/
https://liquipedia.net/deadlock/
>New Player Guide
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1lMBE7Nli_sVJ42d-kPHjF3MBaXZdIM46gNJQC_fMGMU/edit
>Advanced Movement Guide
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1yfPHJsMrKcg_8wqa95qu0sOFxRdzKLF_eUWOZX7RLHc
>Unofficial Stat Tracker
https://statlocker.gg/

Threadlocked: >>533956580

>always behind 50% or more on souls
>ALWAYS
I don't understand. I'm always doing something that nets souls.

>>534420597 (OP)
Update NOW

>>534423778
Push lanes more.

>>534424962
That's what I'm doing, but if I go into their side I always get bumrushed

>>534425134
Time and place for everything, sounds like the enemy is doing the right thing instead of just letting you funnel your creeps onto their obj.
But if you can keep the lane pushed more towards them, that gives you a bit more leniency than the enemy to go and mess with a camp, breakables etc
trust the process, if you're getting bumrushed to death every time, you're in the wrong for lingering out in the open, too far too much

>>534425782
How far away do you have to be from a creep for you to not show up on the map

This game is unplayable, teams full of mouthbreahters it isnt even fun. Both sides filled with dumbfucks I waltz all over.
I just had another stomp, assumed it put me in a lower ranked match for matchmaking purposes, but now, it was in a rank higher than my own.
Just filled with retards having no clue what to do. I took walker with 6 kills in less than 10 minutes and never felt like I earned it

learning yamato atm, how do i deal with shiv ult?
does divine barrier (shield on ult-press) work against the execute?

>>534427619
You either time your ult with Shiv's execute, buy resto locket for a quick heal, or buy counterspell. iirc the execute goes through the shield?

>>534427619
just buy cheat death

>>534427619
Counterspell is the best option here, most Shiv players are so one note they will just beeline to you before pressing ult.
>>534423778
Pushing lanes while noone else does is how I stay on top of networth while not playing typical farming heroes like Infernus, Haze, Seven whatever. The hard part is letting these guys know that jg gives less gold than creeps sot hey could help with the pushing too

>always ahead 50% or more on souls
>ALWAYS
I understand. I'm never doing something that nets souls.

Gun Talon feels pretty useless, sad he doesn't have the option. Feels like his 2 is just pointless if it doesn't work even when built around. Vindicta gun still works.

>>534427619
counterspell

rember that every week that passes without update news increases the chance of next week having update news
two more weeks!

>>534438648
3 days special game patch operation

>pick infernus
>stack cdr
>buy torment pulse and infuser
>max 1 and 2
>win 5 games in a row
shrimple as that.

>>534440807
napalm is still so overpowered it's unbelievable, i can't understand why no one is begging for it to be nerfed

>>534441378
Yeah 40% amp is nuts

>>534441378
I start lane with it. Afterburn is a meme

>>534427198
Yeah I'm just playing BF6 and swinging back to MoP Classic after the beta ends.

>>534441378
does it only apply for Inf or is it any damage dealt?

>>534404734
>seven
>weak early
he just takes your t1 for free

>>534438648
im an august 29th truther myself

>>534442339
true
>>534442408
any damage taken

what do i buy to counter yamato midgame?
every game shes takes too many teammates to get rid of her

trust the plan. two more weeks.

Y.

>>534445673
You buy warp stone and use it after she's tethered herself to you. Then you walk away

>>534445673
you parry the install and move to a better game

Why do I never get the good haze or infernus on my team

>6-loss streak yesterday night
>3 games in a row with DCs (on my team)
>most if not all of my teammates had negative KDAs in all 6 games
>had the most souls and either the highest objective or player damage in all of them
thanks, yoshi, for dicking me down with forced losses so I keep playing your wonderful game

>>534440807
>full health next to my walker
>infernigger comes off zipline like a rabid monkey lighting up their 2 and 4
>stunned, can’t even dash back to my walker 10 m away
>die to afterburn finally making it back
>1100 dmg from diarrhea trail

>>534448087
Start picking them yourself then. Cant win them, join them

>>534445673
counterspell her charged

>>534449124
same. I don't want to smurf because destroying retards isn't fun either but there aren't enough good teammates around my elo to make competitive matches

Who's in the wrong here, the combined 0/18 gun kelvin, gun magician, and the warden who started reloading during my ult twice with ult available
or me, the highest net souls holliday dragging the enemy hero 100m closer to our base and away from the entire enemy team up 40k souls on us who said retard once

>>534438648
update this monday

This thread is so fucked

Valve should add a direct port of lamb to deadlock to save this game and unfuck the thread.

yoshi was LAST seen 5 MINUTES AGO update today

>>534466191
just looked up her kit. blandest kit imaginable outside of a seemingly random dazzle aura

why does the 6-17-2025 update forum post have 401k views (10-20 times more views than most other changelog posts, only 1 other update changelog goes over 100k and it's not by much (114k))

I am gonna be real with you sisters
Not even cosmetics are gonna save this game unless it releases with like 5 other gamemodes and server browser/custom games

>>534467460
ok riot sissy

mcginnis turrets finally feel halfway decent,
but they still require alot of investment before they actually become lethal.
problem is, mcginnis needs a ton of counter items to avoid getting raped by debuffs and CC.
either you build counter items early and deal no damage,
or you build damage items early and get raped by debuffs and CC.
it's like mcginnis needs a ton of souls before actually reaching parity with baseline kits of other heroes.
you can make it work, but you need a big soul lead for the whole game, and mcginnis kinda sucks at farming.
>>534467460
i want KOTH and CTF so bad

>>534468031
urn is already basically CTF. im surprised yoshi hasn't introduced a secondary alternative objective that would likely be a KOTH maybe

>>534468242
sinners sacrifice machines are already loud objectives that force you to stand in one place for like 15 seconds
if they put in a regular KotH point it would be supremely boring

>>534468242
im talking about normal CTF as a separate mode, not a side quest in the MOBA mode.

I LOVE THIS GAME AND I'M TIRED OF PRETENDING IT'S BAD

NOOOOOO THIS GAME NEEDS TO ADD FURRIES, ANIME GIRLS, AND BLAND LEAGUE DESIGNS TO BE GOOD PLEAAAAASE

>>534466543
>Dotard can't help itself but argue in bad faith
Many such cases!
>>534470039
This, but unironically

>>534469104
Why would anyone play a shitty side mode instead of the real game

>>534470509
it's a boring kit. league designs got mundane by 2013. only league kit I liked past that is maybe tahm kench

The black woman of Valve unoriginality.
These are TWO different characters.

>>534469585
Why do you even pretend then? Just enjoy playing it, most complainers and ritualposters here don't play anyway

>>534470509
*rapes your lol character*

>>534470592
why is MOBA more of a legitimate mode than KOTH?
playing the same mode on the same map over and over is boring.

>new rejuv lets your idiot teammates feed away the extra lives

>>534474563
>grey talon takes rejuv over tanky dps
>immediately wanders into enemy jungle, gets immediately picked twice

kek

>>534474745
no, the one from just now, where your whole team gets rejuv again but it's 3 credits for everyone
so if half your team is bad they'll be the ones wasting your credit whether they helped or not

>>534475257
I was relating a personal anecdote with a talon who did that with the new 3 man rejuv. I was laughing too hard to get mad. how do these people survive irl?

>>534475257
OH a new patch just came out. shiiiiet

SevenSisters...

>- Dash speed for bucket 3 heroes increased from -15% to -10%

I one trick abrams, I didn't think it was that big of a deal. the whiners will still bitch about it anyway.

>>534475875
what is a bucket 3 hero

why the fuck did they buff shiv

>>534476524
dash speed tiers per character.

bucket 1 +5, skirmishers like paradox
bucket 2 -5, "average" characters
bucket 3 -10, tanks

beeeeeg lazor

>>534476524
they nerfed dash speed (not distance) for tanks by 15% last patch and now they've buffed it back up by 5%

>>534475875
Same I only play kelvin and hardly noticed after 2 minutes

>>534475875
>dash takes 1.62 seconds instead of 1.5 seconds
UNPLAYABLE

>Vyper nerfs
brehs

>>534467758
I am a dotard though

>shiv BUFFS
????
Yeah, I'm not playing this patch

>>534467460
honestly, I wouldn't mind a casual mode of sorts, like turbo mode in dota or better. Almost half the time I want to play this game I just stop and take a moment to think about queue times, laning phases, farming and respawn timers until I just end up playing something else

>>534476552
Now thats a better face compared to one in the previous leak

>>534480070
This but unironically, it feels like constant lag

>>534482869
>he thinks about that nerd shit

play by feel bruh

so its literally impossible to lose with rejuv now
all 6 players get 15% spirit+health+firerate
can't focus anyone without the buff, enemy team guaranteed 3 6400 soul item value

at least we got coinflip mids back!!!

>>534481653
buffed cock girth doe

>>534483876
>4 minutes

not that big of a deal, need to play it tho

>>534483921
model redesign foreshadowing???

>>534483921
>new model will be EXTRA THICK

>>534483992
you could wait out for another dynamo ult in 4 minutes, 7 minutes was stupid but 4 minutes is still guaranteed to have at least one death happen

I love the character of Mo and Krill. I love the gentlemanly air they try to covet, and how the "aristocratic" characters seem to be annoyed that they're there and enjoying their lives. They're good at digging tunnels and turned it into a profitable yet dirty criminal venture. And then it's a little monkey guy sitting on top of a big burly guy, which is a great trope as it is. Love this character and can't wait to dress the tiny monkey up in outfits.

>>534484693
krill trying to get kelvin to read his manuscripts made him way more likeable. mo should have more audible sounds though

>>534483876
That's how old rejuv worked, just minus the spirit buff. And now it at least it fucking ends again. My problem with how they keep tinkering with rejuv is how each change has leaned towards encouraging pub teams to be shitty about playing around rejuv.

With the last version, it was bitching over crystal priority. Now, since just being on the team with rejuv and dying is the same as "stealing" a crystal your teammate thought they deserved more, there will be bitching about that instead.

>>534484693
They're pretty hecking wholesome
Still have no idea what Krill could be in Deadlock, maybe an imp? He's still a weird space monkey.

For some reason Mo is a lot more believable even though he's randomly a giant humanoid animal in the cast

>>534485176
there is no version of dota or deadlock where teammates don't find ways to mess things up or bitch about random things

>>534483876
Addendum, they made the crystal bigger and give one rejuv token for each heavy

Does it give both teams rejuv buff if they each have tokens then?

>>534484069
>>534484345
Oh please, it's just "people can't seem to shoot Vyper so let's just increase her model size with a slider"

>>534485131
>krill trying to get kelvin to read his manuscripts made him way more likeable
100%. Krill is still a humble and often lowly person but often lacks humanising moments. Have him nervously meet an icon of his that isn't a criminal and want to show him his own stuff is so real.

>>534485639
there was a model leak of a WIP vyper model that was bigger tho right?

>>534442575
heh now try to tell me that after this patch
this is what they want
yet it’s so inconsistent

>>534487713
smoothing out the power scaling is the point of the playtest tho

Bloodletting doesn't even feel like it works anymore. The duration is so short you only get to heal back like 200hp and the short duration means you get like no EHP

>inb4 crybabies go "hurr I hate shiv so let's have one less viable character in the roster!!!!111"

>>534487224
yeah I know but this has nothing to do with that. Because that model doesn't have two legs

>Shiv has been brain dead OP since his conception
>gets a nerf
>all the idiots getting carried by him still play him with their eyes closed
>"WTF I LOST BUFF HIM YOSHI WTF!!!"
They need to let people adjust instead of these kneejerk reactions to their own changes

>shiv was considered braindead OP by ritualists
>shiv gets nerfed into the ground to appease the retarded
>god forbid he reaches a playable state again

>>534488612
He was literally OP at every rank that even Yoshi joked about it, you fucking idiot
>WAAAHHH IM SO BAD I SUCK AT THE META HERO TOO!!!

The ritualist got so upset he replied directly,

>>534489081
sorry meant for >>534488915
I'm trans btw not sure if that matters

>>534485131
Sorry pal its established Krill tried doing the fighting and Mo tried talking but it didnt work out

>>534481653
deserved and should have been introduced earlier

>>534485131
Nahh fuck off, then you end up with annoying shit like Sylvanus from Smite with his tree doing stupid sounds half the time, it adds nothing.

>>534485176
Seems the only one bitching is you

>+/-1% patch
le heheheheheheheheheheheheh thanks yoshi!!!

took a yamato from ~90% to 0 in one shoulder-charge + hmc + gunshot
feelsgoodman

>>534488071
bloodletting is one of the stupidest abilities in the game and it's only redeeming factor is that the red amulet lighting up while in full rage is cool looking
the entire damage negation part of it is just pure retardation

>>534493737
and they pay him like $600.000 a month to do this.

800 hours in and I've reached the point where I don't even enjoy winning

The real redpill is Shiv should just be left shit until a proper rework happens, his kit is fundamentally broken and all the trannies citing winrate conveniently memoryhole his winrate was negative peak of the OG Shiv meta, he is just a broken braindead character if built correctly and needs a full rework to his kit.

>>534501690
>full rework

nah, his shivs and dash are fine. still think his ult is the culprit.

i find it odd vindicta's snipe was whined about so much and nerfed every patch even when she was dogshit but shiv's autolock ult gets a pass

>>534502519
One is a ability that is constantly up and can sniping across map other one is balanced like an actual ult hope that helps snipertard

>>534502519
Shiv's auto lock ult is easily dealt with using like 4 different items

>>534501631
good it's a playtest you shouldn't care about the outcome

>>534503175
Same for Vindicta snipe?

is abrams ult the most useless in the game?

>>534504228
Yes. It's only good for the unstoppable. Sadly his 3 other abilities have better max upgrades so it's low priority to get maxed.

EoS status?

>>534506003
yes they are going to end the service of the game they are actively working on finishing before even giving it a trailer, there's no point

>>534503772
Vindicta snipe isn't as easily telegraphed since she can choose when it actually fires and it has charges AND it gives bonus souls

>>534503772
vindicta snipe can be cast instantaneously
shiv always has a loudass sound and telegraph the moment he uses it. the animation needs work for sure but honestly the concept itself isn't even that bad

Level 3 Abrams ult should let him land anywhere on the map and work like a call of doody predator missile.

>>534504228
yes. with the melee changes you don't even have enough time to get a heavy melee off without getting parried now. and the cooldown is so long for how useless and situational it is

>>534502519
its because some builds put qsr and go mystic burst/tankbuster so it wound up doing like 500+ damage at 5k souls and so was balanced around that unfortunately, if you dont get those items it feels like a wet noodle

new rejuv is retarded, give five man revive back

what the fuck is Lash saying about his wife?

>>534433201
Why must you mock me

>>534481653
>>534481917
There's no new patch, retards

>>534510114
you look so stupid right now. I expect an apology for how wrong you're being

>>534510578
There is no new patch, you dumb subhuman nigger.

>>534511402
>>534510114
This anon is trying to bait people into spoon-feeding him the patch notes. Ignore him

>>534511624
There is no new patch.

>>534512303
If you asked nicely I'd share them with you.

>>534512384
But there isn't a new patch. There is objectively no new patch.

>>534512576
Ok

>>534509905
he is an asshole wtf lash

>>534512973
Go to Steam. Is there a new patch? No.

i've been annihilating vipers with shotgun characters since today's hitbox patch. turns out she was avoiding half the pellets or some shit due to her old slim hitbox

- Rejuv now drops 1 crystal again, with each heavy melee hit granting a credit to the team (up to 3 for first midboss, and 4 for subsequent ones). Everyone on the team gains the buff. Whenever an ally dies, they respawn in place, lose the buff and your team rejuv credits get reduced by 1 (an ally can only consume one rejuv credit). The top bar has a UI indicator for how many rejuv credits remain. When all rejuv credits are used, the buff disappears for everyone.
- Buff duration reduced to 4 minutes (was 7 min in the last rework, and 5 min in the most recent adjustment)
- Buff reduced from +20% max hp to +15%
- Buff reduced from +20% fire rate to +15%

- Dash speed for bucket 3 heroes increased from -15% to -10%

- Seven: Base Sprint speed reduced from 2.0 to 1.0
- Seven: Base regen reduced from 1.5 to 1.0
- Seven: Base health reduced from 700 to 650
- Shiv: Bloodletting cooldown reduced from 45s to 25s
- Shiv: Bloodletting T1 cooldown increased from -25s to -10s
- Shiv: Bloodletting T2 increased from +6% Deferred to +10%
- Shiv: Bloodletting Rage deferred bonus from +14% to +15%
- Shiv: Bloodletting deferred damage from +20% to +25%
- Vyper: Gun cycle time increased from 0.063 to 0.07 (a nerf)
- Vyper: Slither T1 slide distance reduced from +25% to +20%
- Vyper: Headshot Crit value reduced from 80% to 70%
- Vyper: Fixed some issues with hitbox and its size in some areas

Coming back to the game
What's a good build for Seven these days?

>>534519979
all those bloodletting buffs still can't offset that it only lasts 6 seconds

Anyone having issues connecting to games? Getting this shit today.

>>534520061
3maxxing for shooting people and carrying, but you can also go full ult build leaning more towards support for excelent objective-taking and teamfights

>>534481653
>>534483921
God this player base is so fucking dogshit, it's so funny how ALL of the Vyper whining was Alchemist faggots unironically.

>>534520061
becoming an ult bot with unstoppable is ez GGs

is bookworm inspired by annie pots from ghostbusters?

>>534524385
seethe viper tard

>>534502002
his ult is also fine.
Rage is inherentely unbalanceable. he's too dogshit without it up and he's too fucking broken with up filled.
Rage and Bloodletting both need to go and to be replaced with something else.

>>534524537
I don't play Vyper, retarded tranny. I play GT. Vyper was easy as fuck to pack up and counter but ritualist niggers like you love to cry.

>>534524736
>I don't play the character but I'll shit my pants like I do

thanks for the feedback

>>534524790
>reddit spacing
>dogshit quality nothing post
it's so easy to tell who is a tourist.

>>534524880
been posting here longer than you've been alive, but just because I bang your mom don't make me your daddy

>>534524736
>Vyper was easy as fuck to pack up and counter
half the cast has almost no tools to deal with her or chase her properly if she's losing a fight. her hitbox was also wonky as shit while she was sliding, it's much better now

I think this game is shit and can't stop playing it so I made an equally shit vid to celebrate this fact with really old clips from back in November when lanes were fun.

https://youtu.be/UV0THtWDEiI?si=24w9nyKDdRUy80bH

Also what fentanyl is Yoshi smoking to give Shiv another buff I swear to christ.

>>534527502
buy an ad, tranny.

Valve should buy out the rights to muffet and add her to deadlock.

so why does holliday have no ass?

>>534527502
I like seeing anon content, I'll watch your vid

>match making awful
>no new content
>nerf everything fun
>buff everything thats already broke
>gimp melee and movement
>remove more teleports too
>remove more vent jump pads
>towers made of paper and get deleted in 2 seconds
Thank God BF6 beta is here

>>534527763
Okay sar thank you sar

>>534528198
Thank you anon, I love seeing art posts here so figured I'd contribute at least one thing since I suck at drawing

Unironically just let Shiv be shit for a patch or two holy fuck. So he went from S tier to A tier, it's fine. People will still play him because he has a "I instantly kill you when your health is low" button

>"why did the devs do this?"
they are actually that stupid. there is your answer for every question you have about this game. yes, they actually are that retarded. no, they did not think about it.

>be 2-1-11
>pushing lanes or fighting all match
>people who have 5/6 more deaths more than me and half of my assists, with the same amount of kills pr less have the same networth OR MORE than me
I really don't fucking understand. I don't waste one second. Sincerely, what fucking gives?

hard carried with mcgunnis and warden tonight, lads

>>534527940
This is what trapper should've looked like. Valve missed the opportunity of the century making him pocket but more chinese.

despite the amount of dialogue in this game, I'm in shock by how bad the comms are. Sometimes I want to say "defend green" as a simple heads up only for my character to say "going green", and then I have to go to that lane myself just to not confuse anyone. I wish you could decide which one is played by pinging with M1 or M2. And I don't understand how it's been over a year and there's only one (1) chat wheel when counter-strike has like 6 and paladins used to have like 20 different menus for voice commands.

>>534537391
one eats doughnuts for the sake of it, the other eats spiders to survive, anon. I think it explains itself

>>534537554
And qt donut eater is an infinitely better design than chinese hypebeast pocket.

>decide to learn new char
>drop ~2 ranks
>games are harder
huh?

>another key jingle letter patch

ITS NOT COMING NEXT WEEK...

Ivysisters???

>>534540079
personally prefer the rtx mod

>FUCKING SHIV BUFFS
yeah that's what the people were after. you're a dumb nigger yoshi.

>>534541294
his eyes are blocked by the mountain of dollars his getting paid on a monthly basis to do this instead of releasing the new heroes

>>534541629
he's actually completely fucking incompetent. any time a cancer hero isn't 200% cancer he rebuffs them and meanwhile he nerfs mediocre heroes. it's insane past a point. all those people left because he made the game less fun to play and ruined the matchmaking. but beta copers will keep pretending like the damage isn't done and he's gonna swing back from this by leaving heroes unreleased in some ditch somewhere for a year and continuing this trend of having like a handful of heroes be SSS TRICKY tier and leaving the rest of the cast in B or C tier.

I wonder if (before these bloodletting nerfs) they could've just made bloodletting's passive component disabled by silence and if that would've fixed these problems.

spirit still feels weak compared to gun
6.4k items just dont do enough and stacking spirit res just works infinitely better than armor with all the shitty on-hit effects you can buy

>>534540079
she.... she's built like me
she looks like me
i.... thank you yoshi

>>534540079
not real
t. experimental chud

>>534497714
This but fed Haze, bonus point if he starts crying in all chat about ''muh braindead hero''

>>534540079
looks like her face is melting gross

>>534549043
erm, prove it sweaty

>>534540079

>>534527502
nice little video

>>534540079
Did AI make this?

>blackhole on cooldown
>sense a teamfight
>jump into the middle of enemies (threatening them with ult)
>they all roll away at the same time

Crazy how sometimes you can tell a game is gonna end up in a lose just from one early fight, stomp my lane and head over to help a side lane win theirs and they start backing to walker while I'm pushing guardian against 3 low enemies. I prefer even feeders to extremely passive teammates it's so fucking aids

>>534445673
counterspell, spirit shield, spellbreaker, inhibitor, silencer, and best is curse. Seriously just get Spellbreaker and she deals 0 damage to you.

This game is absurdly dead and I realistically don't see a way we bounce back from life support numbers
>inb4 ubercontrarians show up to tell me having no players is a good thing

>>534562061
>the invite only alpha playtest with no advertising only has 10k concurrent players ITS FUCKING OVER SHUT STEAM DOWN

>>534564301
And if the open beta happens
>I-It's just a beta!
And if it actually releases
>I-It just released!
Losing 95% of your playerbase for a playtest anyone and everyone can get into and having hype die completely isn't a good thing

>its a rerun episode
lmao this fucking general

>>534540079
it's jusst the regular model with the map icon slapped don

ayyyy is Mo busted this patch or what? Felt so good playing it

>>534562061
Game's in alpha and is already suffering from mechanics bloat

>getting parried stuns you long enough for 2 heavy melees by the enemy (tough, but fair)
>35% increased damage from all sources
>stun duration cannot be reduced with debuff resistances

It's like Dota with its exceptions to BKB, it shouldn't be like that. The flex slots also don't make sense

>kill all 3 guardians for flex slot 1
>kill only 1 walker for flex slot 2
>kill all 3 walkers for flex slot 3
>kill only one set of shrine guardians for flex slot 4
>killing a set of shrine guardians gives speed boost on the zipline

these mechanics are both inconsistent and have no plausible in-universe explanation for why this occurs. It shouldn't already be morphing into Dota with tower glyph/fortify changing every patch, some towers get splitshot, other towers don't, some towers give free refresher on glyph when destroyed, others do not, etc

Really wish the game would move more towards HotS style map elements where you can capture creeps to push that give no gold, or have teleporters that only work for one team that requires map control, just so there's something more to do than shove waves, jungle, smash crates

>>534564921
it's been a fairly consistent criticism of the game for about a year now, that the game doesn't respect shooter mechanics and has overly strong debuffs, undodgeable abilities. I've seen some people call it "stat check" and the phrase fits. When you meet someone in a fight, there's little DM (or DM that you can influence given both players are evenly matched in skill). Whoever has better stats comes out on top, and that feels frustrating given the game has guns, a third person camera, arena shooter movement that is negated by 90% of the cast, etc

So I guess the hero update got moved up another two weeks now?

>>534570670
There was never any set date. We were told when they had a solid idea when it would be ready they'd give us a release date, but after that nothing so far.

>>534570670
at this point i'm going with september

>>534570670
next week, this one just was the frank ult testing week

im honestly convinced itll be a september release or at least right before TI shit rolls in

and itll have 10 new heroes and every old hero updated

It's a shame this update would be coming in at the worst time possible.
Battlefield 6 is on everyone's mind and will be all the way until the end of October... and then Arc Raiders comes out which everyone is hyped for.

This game is fucked.

>>534574569
Eh this game wont get an official release trailer until early next year
They should basically finish it before GTA sucks all the air

>>534574743
What they should have done is shut the fucking alpha down back in ~October of last year then did a huge relaunch.

>>534574960
I dont disagree

Theres practically no point to this alpha when they already have a secret club running anyway
I even said this ages ago

>>534574569
September is a free month for the update. Like the only big big game there is Borderlands 4.

the amount of games I fucking lost because of leavers is staggering

I'd wager 5 to 10% of the playerbase smurfs regularly so take the daily active and reduce it by that amount

>>534577258
that doesn't make any sense, smurfs will only be online using one account even if they have a second main

>>534577509
If two accounts log on owned by one person then you get 2 daily active players.

the doom posters are online again. I'm grateful for being able to play deadlock at any point, there is no other game out there that scratches this itch. I think I even like it more than dota.

We need a jungle update already
The map is missing one more objective

>entire team is russian
I cannot WAIT for eastern europe to be region locked. This cunts are fucking unbearable

>>534577719
steamdb isn't measuring daily active players, it's measuring CCU, players logged in at the same time
there's no reason to log in to both accounts at the same time unless there's two people playing, and there are more than 10k active players in a day, closer to 100k

Hello? Is rank a fucking joke? How come this phantom duo lost against a fucking ritualist and emissary(me)?

>>534579516
double down arrow on those heroes

did the devs/yoshi saying anything about the 2 different sides (amber hand/sapphire flame) getting a difference in visuals like dire and radiant? i guess thats what buyable cosmetics are good for though ensure the game stays healthy and alive.

>>534558592
I just don't understand why people always back away when I try to gank. They'll spend 40 minutes brooling like a bunch of cavemen but as soon as I try to help they run away and leave me to die.
I even changed my "going in" to "going to gank" and they still leave me to die. Might as well not even communicate at all

>>534581650
I think so, but it would have been like a year ago on discord. not expecting anything like that until 1.0

>>534581676
depends, sometimes they are genuinely really stupid or they have all their shit on cooldown, no stamina, and have low health

Dead millenial game

>>534582356
Yup
Went to Supervive and I aint lookin back

thanks to that anon who drew all the ivy stuff. super cool dude , your art is very good
>>534527951
hidden by the barrel. also her legs/pants just look unfinished. hopefully they give her tight khaki butt
>>534581886
thank you

>>534583056
rofl

>>534583056
Bro, tell your bosses that it's hard to shill a game if the first thing people see when they check the store page is how P2W the game is and how powerups are locked behind lootboxes.

>>534586689
personally I didn't even bother with that game because I was too lazy to type my email

>>534587594
youre missing out on absolutely nothing

how do you build vindicta now? I wanna play heroes I never touch

>>534588736
extra charge, a barrier, maybe boots or suppressor / healbane into alch fire into sup cd into echo shard into trans cd, then flex for what team needs. start flight it gives you the most pressure in lane

>>534588736
>how do you build vindicta now?
feet!

>>534581650
he mentioned that sapphire base is supposed to be a temple and amber will be getting a factory visual overhaul, but is using the same interior temporarily

>>534590218
>temple vs factory

wut

>>534590425
tradition vs progress, spiritualism vs technology
it makes sense, kinda
depends on how well they execute it

>>534570670
next week

>>534506202
Heard of Artifact lil bro? Underlords?

>>534506202
Nigger what is hl3

>>534591150
thematically it makes sense, but the patrons are both otherworldy beings, I'm just surprised one of them would be defined by industrialism

>>534597680
HLX this year

>>534506202
ricochet 2??

>respawn
>dash-jump immediately
>get stuck in animation
valve pls fix this shit, its super annoying and i need to respawn before i can actually play the game again

>>534555330
Thanks anon, appreciate the watch

rapid fire your autistic hero ideas that will never be acknowledged or accepted, here are some of mine, never fully completed them:
>tiny imp demon that spams fire balls and firecrackers, annoying at long range, weak at close range. Ult throws a physics based sack of gunpowder like an olympic hammer throw, covering an area in gunpowder that can quickly explode.
>large Doom demon that fires a bazooka, deals large gun damage but has low mobility.
>grumpy alchemist old man inspired by Lone Druid and the alchemist class from ToME. His ult summons a golem, his 3 basic abilities throw potions which cause different effects to enemies and the golem, pressing 4 while the golem is up will change the golem's target or make him run towards you. Weak if caught alone.
>OCD traumatized monster hunter nun with a sword that turns into an Garand rifle by pressing M2, this changes her stance and all her abilities, meaning she has a total of 8 skills, to balance this they are all weak and with long cooldowns, the sword allows for an aggressive playstyle with dashes and shields, the rifle allows you to set traps and use cc. She always wants to be prepared for anything.
>big walrus dock worker man called Ross, his entire playstyle is based around batting enemies away with a wooden beam and knocking them into wooden fence poles that he can plant on the ground which stuns enemies.
>nightmare melee sleep paralysis demon which can create idling copies of itself and teleport to them to change location, can quickly crawl on walls and become invisible, the ult allows all the copies to run towards the nearest enemy and attack like phantom lancer.
>guitarist that looks like Lightnin Hopkins who sold his soul to the devil for fame, he functions like an D&D bard that can cc enemies and buff allies, his gameplay is similar to playing Guitar Hero, he cleaned himself from the devil's influence and wants to challenge him to a guitar duel in order to regain his soul.

>>534604298
>>OCD traumatized monster hunter nun with a sword that turns into an Garand rifle by pressing M2, this changes her stance and all her abilities, meaning she has a total of 8 skills, to balance this they are all weak and with long cooldowns, the sword allows for an aggressive playstyle with dashes and shields, the rifle allows you to set traps and use cc. She always wants to be prepared for anything.

don't wanna see a kez kit for before 2035 desu

>>534604298
mana based character would be cool

Guns need memorizable spray patterns like counter strike and need to do about quadruple their current damage

>>534590218
Couldn't find any info on this

>>534606526
both spray patterns & recoil work contradictory to the core movement shooter mechanics. I don't remember if tf2 had spray patters (I think it did), but everyone here can move and dodge around like scout if they build right

>>534606526
counter strike needs to not exist

>going to go clear lane
>guys spergs about someone needing to push lane
>go back to base and left minions take walker

>>534597680
Almost done

>>534606984
it's been almost done for 15 years

>>534607414
No it was cancelled for 9 years and started to be worked on about 6 years ago

>>534607961
according to him, they've been working on hl3 far longer than that

>>534608560
dont post him, post his sister

>>534606746
it was in the patch notes for the item update

>>534608560
Stop posting this fat fuck.

going to play a few usw games, join up if you want. starting in 5m 52KD0

Deadlock will be bigger than any MOBA or Hero shooter

>>534607961
even if you're right you retards have still been saying that it's almost here for that long as well
why would this time be any different? remember when people in this very thread were saying deadlock was in the backburner because it was "all hands on deck for hlx"?

big fan of this patch meta.

>macro matters again without teleports
>brainless BROOOOOOLING and farming are both punished against strong pressure
>can make a hard read on enemy team and be rewarded with walker and double towers
>seven nerfs feel tangible in a good way
>less retardo mid swings that can throw the game

https://files.catbox.moe/uf425b.mp4

I swear to god the game is actually better in low elo lobbies because at least the retards aren't afraid to run it down death after death, in phantom+ people are allergic to conflict and just lose passively

>run urn
>all my team is mid
>enemy dynamo solo ults me
>lose urn
>team still mid doing fuckall
i dont understand
some people hate urn/souls
some people hate fighting
some people hate flex slots/pushing
its like they dont play the same game as me

I won 66% of my games today, lads

This guy was crashing out the entire game and kept calling mo&k monkrill and it was so funny

>>534622846
these stats are just baffling, how do you end up 1/1/15 with 6k player damage?
but he also had enough braincells to click on objectives

>>534623312
Not sure

>>534617112
It's a patch that pushed the direction towards a MOBA. I can see why so many people are bitching about it as it's way less unga bunga constant teamfight.

bro if you can't land headshots don't fucking play gun holliday

>>534627358
>want to make the game more popular
>make it more of a moba
>kits are still retardedly simple and you get none of the crazy shit a real moba lets you do
epic

>>534633217
it actually pisses me off so much how they gutted all the fun out of items over time
before you could do a lot of retarded meme builds and yeah they weren't all as meta as the best builds or whatever but you could still make them, now it feels like most items are super low impact besides the designated overpowered patch items since everything is so circumcised

>watch “eternus 6” streamer
>refuses to defend walker he’s right next to as he’s busy punching slot machines “someone else get that”
>losing game
>dude its my teammates like they suck
I look forward to the day deadlock gets more players and these shitters crash down to oracle.

>>534633907
>oracle

if they can't defend objectives or do macro they'll be the new emissary.

>>534633217
>crazy shit mobas let you do

most dota kits are very simple

>>534634216
>most dota kits are very simple
because there's over 120 heroes
you'll never have something like invoker, techies, fuck even tinker with this team. every time something stands out in a way like that they stomp it out and every kit they've released so far has been REALLY simple, the only exception to this being fucking SHIV of all people

>>534634612
>with this team

too afraid to blame icefrog? crazy meme characters come later when you're filling out a core launch roster

>>534634841
no, i just think hotpoo is just as much to blame

why does holiday have recoil

>>534634841
>when you're filling out a core launch roster
what do you think they're doing with the hero patch?
or do you genuinely believe we're getting more heroes afterwards cause if so lmfao

>>534637550
chet? chetty f? is that you?

is it just me... or is new rejuv gay as fuck? you're telling me I have to kill 9-10 ppl with a 15/15/15 buff that doesnt go away until the last rejuv is gone? wtf is this bullshit? you have to be medically retarded to lose with rejuv.

>>534638231
for me it's just how convoluted it is. How do you take something as simple as a powerup called 'rejuvenator' and not just give the player some extra regen, maybe some cooldown reductions too at most. All the other 500 elements feel tacked on, at least to me, and like they could just be rewarded by beating some other mini-bosses that could spawn around the map after some time.

>>534638850
>and not just give the player some extra regen, maybe some cooldown reductions too at most

are you pretending to be retarded or?

>>534638940
are you? or are you just a conformist that will accept anything as long as it supports the status quo and reject everything that questions it?
do you hear the word 'rejuvenator' and immediately think "ah, yes. this should make my gun shoot 15.024% faster per rejuvenator token"?

>>534639712
it's an objective smack dab in the middle of the map to reward the team with map control and give them enough buffs to push to end the game in a timely manner. it's a simple concept.

>>534637378
can we please stop deadnaming yoshi, tyvm

>>534639823
anon, projecting confusion isn't a good flex exactly. I know what it does. It still doesn't make any sense lore-wise and and it feels forced

>>534640135
as much as I love genuinely well-written lore, in a videogame, lore takes a backseat to good design. simple as

>>534640270
i don't know about you but stat boosts is one of the worst, most boring ways of giving whoever took the rejuv an advantage

>>534640031

will I get banned for calling people niggers in text chat

>>534641157
apparently not

>>534641157
see >>534640628

>have a few good games in a row
>keep playing
>lose
>keep playing after the loss
>lose 3 in a row
its a viscous cycle

>>534643643
after two losses in a row I immediately take a break for an hour or more. this seems to reset the losing queue streak. not joking.

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/YuaxcntlfLY
>B-B-BUT DEADLOCK'S A PRIVATE BETA!!! THAT'S WHY IT DOESN'T HAVE PLAYERS
LOL
LMAO

>>534644680
artifactschizo and chet linked up? sneed it or feed it?

>>534644680
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qr6I2BiU238
>fired from valve
>made a shitty asset flip version of l4d with 0 sales
>campaigned against stop killing games in defense of corporations
>now shills for EA
chet lost bigly

Wake me up when valve adds a hero with even a tenth of the quality and soul that riot is pumping out.

just had a ""oracle 4""" game where 3 of the enemies were phantom and 1 was eternus and no one in my team was past archon besides one eternus 6 dude that went 1/14
what even is this game, does the matchmaking mean anything

>>534646170
lash has tenfold the personality, charm and soul of every character in league combined that has been released and is yet to be released.

>>534645331
>fired
he quite literally left on his own terms
i don't think there has been any "big shot" developer at valve that has actively been fired

still doesn't make any of what he said of battlefield any less true el oh el

>>534647838
It's a promotional beta for an extremely advertised game two months from launch & only open for the weekend, of course it's gonna do better numbers than deadlock.

>>534647487
don't reply to him, his idea of "quality" and "soul" is just coomer shit.

Pulsar
>Gun: Rotational Energy
9 ammo, 1.2 bullets per second, starting bullet damage is 55, scaling at +2.1 per-boon. High velocity lightning shock that comes out of his head. Velocity scales with spirit at .6%
>1. Lighthouse Effect - Active
Looking directly at Pulsar blinds enemies. Begins as a glowing cyan flash that envelops the screen over 3 seconds of direct watching. Lighthouse Effect fades away over 2 seconds. Lasts for 10 seconds. 35 second cooldown.
Upgrades: +6sec duration - -10sec cooldown - More than 30% Blinded players take 30 Spirit Damage per second. Spirit damage scales on Spirit at 0.35
>2. Accretion - Active
Pulsar fires a projectile that alters the gravity of enemy players. Over 4 seconds, slows by 40%, gradually makes it impossible to jump or slide. Floating players (Vindicta/Talon etc.) are gradually forced downward. Cooldown of 20 seconds.
Upgrades: Airborne players take damage 10 damage per-meter - -8sec cooldown - Projectile bounces up to 2 times to nearby enemy heroes
>3. Electromagnetic Radiation - Active
Pulsar glows green, channeling radiation into his weapon. Shots fired by Pulsar's gun inflicts deadly radiation on his enemies. Each shot builds 1 stack, with a max of 6 stacks. Each stack steals 9 gun damage, and causes the player's skeleton to glow brighter and brighter cyan, visible through walls to Pulsar. Stacks last for 7 seconds each, stacks against multiple players grant Pulsar damage additively. Ability duration is 12 seconds, with a cooldown of 55 seconds.
Upgrades: +5sec glow duration per-stack - +5 gun damage steal per-stack - +8 maximum stacks.
>4. Gamma Ray Burst
A vast surge of energy is channeled through Pulsar. Firing in a straight, thin line with a range of 150m, Gamma Ray Burst deals 800 Spirit Damage. 8 second channel, can be fired manually, reaches full power at 3sec. 100 second cooldown.
Upgrades: -15sec cooldown - 1sec faster charging - +400 Spirit Damage.

>>534647838
Battlefield marketing is firing on all cylinders.

>>534648567
i like the idea of a "fuck you no jumping" hero

>against a seven infernus lane
I had absolutely no idea what to do

>>534648567
>Background: Clyde Adelson, CEO of Heavy Density Industries, looked over his newest creation. A device that could tear through space, opening a wormhole via uncharted areas of the Spirit world. One fateful evening, at an investor demonstration where he sought lucrative asteroid-mining contracts, he instead found a pulsar. Under enough pressure to crush him into atoms, the Spirit world acted as a bubble, a quark-thin membrane, creating something entirely new - Pulsar. None know what remains of Clyde after the incident, but all will remember the disaster following his creation, where the resulting blast lit the night sky for 200 miles.
>Personality
Pulsar cannot speak outside of different shades of space noises, but internally, he thinks to himself. He was previously a rich 20's playboy, as well as an engineering savant. Somewhat even-keeled, but the influence of the Pulsar makes him act strange.
He twirls his ornate cane in his idle animation. The toothpick that orbits his head will occasionally float down to where his mouth is, where he attempts to chew it, before spitting it back out.
His abilities change his color. Under Lighthouse Effect he turns bright white, under Accretion he glows red, under Electromagnetic Radiation he glows green, and with his ult he glows purple.
He doesn't have any strategic alliances, instead becoming friends with Viscous, who is curious to meet another natural phenomena in sentient form.
Seven expresses jealously of Pulsar's energy level.
Lash hates Pulsar and frequently projects on him.

>>534649348
buy spirit shielding and still lose because both those "late game carries" are also incredibly strong laners because yoshi is a hack

>>534648567
>gamma ray burst

bebop ult?

>blind ability

no

>gravity altering skillshot

interesting idea, but not sure if this should be a normal ability. why not make up a new ult with a "no jump" gimmick? something like a gravity well ult.

>toxic bullets with tracking and WD drain

too much like mirage djinn mark. the WD drain would need to be a final upgrade probably

>>534648567
I should've mentioned, Gamma Ray Burst pierces everything on the map, enemies, and allies. It fires once, for all of the damage at once. It's in an extremely thin beam, basically impossible to get an accidental kill. I'd like to see it be hitscan.
>Toxic bullets and WD drain
The goal is that this hero is a carry & anti-carry, similar to DotA's Razor. Ideally, the glow tracking would be difficult to see unless you have a lot of stacks, meaning you'd have to look closely to see those affected, especially with distance. It also wouldn't highlight victims on the minimap. The weapon damage steal is the main reason to use the spell.

>>534648282
>>534648673
if marketing's all it takes then i have bad news for you fellas
valve hasn't done proper marketing in close to a decade

>>534650691
go back to bed chet

>>534650691
Alyx was heavily marketed. What do you mean?

And Deadlock is obviously gonna get some cinematics for it.

>>534649435
Didn't mean to post the screenshot that was meant to be a separate post wondering how my Bebop managed such little damage

>>534651397
How many Alyx posters have you seen crossing down a busy street? Or in real life for that matter? On TV? How about anywhere other than steam and the game awards?

>It's another episode of my team watches me fight and die whenever we have man advantage and only takes fights themselves deep past our wave in enemy jungle episode
Wtf

>>534652324
>How about anywhere other than steam

a banner on steam that everyone sees when they start it up automatically reaches a few million people, probably a lot more

>>534652608
>evading the question
battlefield is gonna have that AND everything else i've mentioned. even overwatch has this shit. valve does not know how to market shit anymore.

>>534652794
Deadlock isnt getting a console release so it makes zero sense to do that marketting which applies to console players more.

Besides, Perfect World is the one that will do more standard promotion in the region that does matter.

>>534653236
>Deadlock isnt getting a console release so it makes zero sense to do that marketting which applies to console players more.
I wasn't aware fucking league of legends had a console port yet I've still seen ads for it down the block where I live.

>Perfect World is the one that will do more standard promotion in the region that does matter.
when was the last time they did that

serious question

do you f1-f5 to spectate your allies?
even when youre alive?

>>534653639
nope, I completely forget it's in the game :D

>>534653639
Sometimes I do it during a pause or while I zipline

this game is a constant humiliation ritual once you know the game is over at 10 minutes but you have to suffer the next 15 minutes in the cuck chair

>>534657985
Thank god theyre making Vindicta cuter

But I do hope they add another sniper hero so that not everyone just gravitates to her every single time

>>534659215
I think it'll be a while before they add another scoped snipe character, people will call them lazy

Deadlock literally can't flop as long as Vindicta, Succubus and Vampirebat remain in the game

When will valve add a hero with a SWDP?

>>534660000
soft wet doe pussy?

>>534655534
15 if you're lucky

>>534661364
I played an infernus who refused to end, 25 minutes in he was like 2/2/1, dragging the game out to nearly an hour, brutal cuck simulation

>yfw (you)r haze dies 4 times in 8 minutes

>>534661679
obese hands typed this

>3 hours searching for a match
real dead nigga hours over here

I've played basically the entire cast now and I can safely say the most braindead hero is Warden with Abrams as a close second, other heroes I need to at least potentially take into account my scaling, matchups, power spikes, etc on these teo I can basically just hold W and turn my brain off and almost always get value. Warden beats out Abrams simply because he scales better and can do quite literally everything. I can even respect Infernus and Seven players more than those two.

I don't play this game, I'm just waiting for them to make a custom games mode where people will make fun custom games
Have they announced anything like that or a possible timeframe for custom games?

>>534673846
Probably 2 years after launch

>>534659579
>>534659215
We already have talon and he can fly too
We dont need another fucking sniper

>>534674254
>>534673846

They added a modding section on the shitcord for a reason desu. And I remember tons of old forum feedback anons posted about custom map/arcade support that Yoshi liked. If they're smart they'll implement it a month or two after launch.

>>534674628
If by "mods" you mean reskins then yeah you already have that. I assume he's asking for something adjacent to DOTA 2's custom games, which won't be out any time soon

>>534674973
>I assume he's asking for something adjacent to DOTA 2's custom games
Yeah, that's what I'm asking about, because I like all the mechanics of Deadlock, I just don't really like competitive shooters that much, so I'll compromise and play the game if there are cool custom games, which I think Deadlock has a lot of potential for

>>534674973
There's still people working on unofficial custom games.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UQpXTwxu7tY

>>534675479
Why is the current map so shitty and anti-fun? This is so much better, and has no height ceiling

>>534675589
giant sightlines are shit if you aren't vindicta/grey talon
new map is more fun for wall jumping around and has better verticality, but I do hate hitting my head with majestic leap

>>534674973

If we assume icefraud is in the team then they probably will add an arcade mode.

I found out how to beat low prio queues long queue times
just pick your double down heros at the FAR bottom of your hero list
low prio = only puts you in pisslow games
sat queueing for 40+ minutes as Abrams with no popped
swapped to my bottom Vind and insta queue
did it again on GT, insta queue.

>>534675937
>better verticality
no it fucking doesn't, why lie like that? the sky ceiling is so low you're constantly bonking your head on the rooftops and there's no central giant FUCKOFF building like the museum in the old map.

>>534676610
old map had
>no ropes
>overground teleporters instead of tunnels
>many buildings that extended into the skybox
the only heroes that could get higher back then than on the current map were fliers + lash
flying heroes used to be a serious balance problem because of it

I hope people who jungle instead of pushing objectives when the enemy are dead get banned.

>>534675937
its cramped shit that only got worse with every update, fuck off

>>534482869
Turbo nowadays is tryhard shit as well, it needs a mode with no lasthits, souls etc

>>534676810
>>no ropes
which could've very easily been added
>>overground teleporters instead of tunnels
the tunnels honestly feel like complete dogshit whenever trying to help a teammate or figure out if someone's above or below ground at a glance. and that's without getting into the dogshit entrances themselves
>>many buildings that extended into the skybox
the new one has even MORE of those

>>534678887
Overthrow would work way better in Deadlock desu

>ahh le sigh, deadlock has 12k players it'll NEVER make it...
>open beta can't save this game...
meanwhile, in reality
https://steamcharts.com/app/1283700
a dogshit literally who trashheap like supervive went from 1k to 15k by just going open beta
now if valve does that while also plastering it on the front page...
hm...
but keep coping that this game is gonna fail btw, it's very entertaining.

>>534680165
erm supervive is actually an amazing game and way better than dead dogshit deadcock

>>534680165
nigga do you know the difference between retention and attraction?
deadlock HAD those players
it just completely fucking failed to retain them because the idea of the game fails to attract any sort of audience but the severely mentally ill

how the FUCK am i meant to win a lane or game with a haze thats allergic to pressing m1 on people?
JUST PRESS MOUSE1 ITS NOT HARD WHAT THE FUCK

>>534680439
I had an infernus who did eight (8) afterburn damage by 12 minutes.
M1tards are the biggest fucking shitters on the planet.

>>534680679
hazes in enemy teams shoot my head the millisecond i exit cover
my hazes are glue eating windowlickers

>>534680334
>it just completely fucking failed to retain them because the idea of the game fails to attract any sort of audience but the severely mentally ill

lol

In reality:
>try a game that is an alpha playtest
>realise it wont be done for 2+ years
>"I guess I will come back when its done"

>>534420597 (OP)
How bad is the cheating in this game?
Also how many people who play this game speak fluent English, I can't stand having to work together as a team with a bunch of russian jackasses

>>534681250
>realise it wont be done for 2+ years
more like
>realize it's Icefrog autism and Valve time combo, full release will come as fast as the Source 2 update to CSGO

>>534681303
cheating is not really widespread, community is small so the ones that cheat are quickly found out (but you can since vac sucks and doesnt do shit)
if youre in eu there are lots of russians but most of them speak basic english (surprisingly)

>>534681250
nigga games being unfinished don't stop people from trying them and sticking with them. you got an entire early access section on steam showcasing you this and with titles way more popular than deadlock too.
people just don't care for the hero shooter - moba formula. one side always ends up stomping on the other's feet and no one is pleased.

>>534681303
I think I've seen 10 cheaters in 700 hours, most russians speak english but usually don't if the rest of the team is also russian

>>534682921
people don't play multiplayer games without incentive anymore
cs:go launched with extremely underwhelming numbers before they started adding levels, chests and skins

>>534665709
nice try fatty

>>534604298
Would doing former circus performer siamese twins as an Ogre Magi equivalent be too exploitative? They have a form toggle between spirit and gun damage buffs, maybe they get resistance buffs for the opposite in each.

>>534690524
Shut up fat boy

I had a dream it was 18v18 with the map size roughly doubled and with up to 3 of the same hero, it was fun

>>534694094
Sounds like you needed all that space cuz ur fat

>>534694904
nice try fatty

>>534696067
Shut up fat boy

What hero can I play to actually rank up? Bebop and Geist feel impossible to climb with half the time

>>534680334
Sopping wet doe pussy will save the game. Trvst the plqn.

>>534681303
>How bad is the cheating in this game?
Not that bad, you get like 1 cheater every 50-100 games or so.
>Also how many people who play this game speak fluent English
depends on the server I guess, I rarely get people that use comms on the Asia server, but when I do get a team that talks and cooperates, the game becomes orgasmic.

>rejuv back to winning the game for free instead of being a solid advantage that you can defend against

>>534699659
>I want games to go on for 50 minutes

>>534696247
seven, infernus, and wraith are all braindead hyper carriers

>>534689023
Palworld is just an early access pokemon minecraft clone and its sitting on 50k right kow

>>534696247
infernus, wraith, haze, seven and vyper can carry you hard if you can aim okay-ish and have the mental capacity to click on objectives (pro-tip: you win games by destroying objectives)
shiv is also easy because you get free kills on low hp targets and are also unkillable, and monkrill is also easy because if your team has at least double digit iq you can get a free kill on the highest networth enemy easily

>>534681250
Nah brother, I don't think you get it. The only people who are still playing this boring-ass, gamble-dependent game are those mentally ill, shut-in autists who can't get dates because they're sub-5s and socially awkward. That's it, that's their audience now.

interesting choice to use

>>534702810
>shut in autists who can't get dates because they're sub-5s

brother, not only do I doubt you are better looking than me, you definitely do not lift more than me.

>>534702759
How to make Vyper's early game less hellish? I feel so weak to AOE and stuns as her

>>534704231
It's a closed map short term game to play, there's nothing else to do at some point outside of additional creative building or whatever. A well made eSport title by Valve having the same fate as that is a ridiculous idea

>>534691195
who knows, people are weird about their muh representation and their double standards. I guess as long as you put them under a positive light, anything goes

>>534694094
not saying it wouldn't be fun but imagine getting hooked by like 3 bebops, only to get ulted by 3 holidays, only to get black holed by 3 dynamos

>>534691195
yea, too exploitative. however, I think swan's kit would suit a tight-rope acrobatic carnival background.

>>534691195
FUCK YOU MORPHLING

>>534691195
>too exploitative
Good, ragebait is still advertising. Which is probably the reason why Pocket uses ''they'' in his bio, this is my tinfoil hat theory

>>534711404
siamese twins are a medical condition, not something you can pass off as a fantasy trope if you're making explicit humanoids

Does Valve even know what nerf even means?

noticed when the game is paused that abrams looks at his gun during the reload animation

I suck so fucking bad at this game it's incredibly demoralizing.

>>534711769
sorta, for them nerfing is only applicable on fun things, never on cancer that shouldn't even be in the game

>>534716816
are you having fun tho

>>534718148
Not yet no, I'm hoping it will get more fun eventually. Right now it's just confusing but that's standard moba I guess.

>>534716816
I hated the game for like the first 60 hours or so. Maybe try a different build and focus on farming and pushing as efficiently as possible without dying until you can get your most useful items

>>534718258
stick to 1-2 heroes and builds then

>>534718443
>>534718464
Been playing only Abrams, and every time I use my ult everyone disengages while the animation plays, or I get countered by an ice bubble or something.

>>534719071
his ult is kinda useless, use it as getaway or when they try to disengage
id rather buy unstoppable than level his shitty ult to 3

Sweet! Thanks for the leaver penalty Valve!

>>534719071
Abrams' ult is a noob trap, same with his melee build. I'd prefer to use it a surprise tool in the middle of the teamfight when the enemy least expects it.
Also yes, first few weeks playing this game are truly miserable, I suggest you play with bots for a while, try different builds there and then go with the one which feels the most natural to use for you. For example, I tried every build on Abrams for some time, realised they all suck and going full gun instead.
Things will get better, here's what helped me personally to start having fun in this game:
>play with bots
>watch a bunch of guides on macro
>focus on pushing lanes
>find and pin down whoever is the most fed carry on the enemy team
>dedicate one-two slots to counter the enemy team comp or whoever is the most annoying fag on the enemy team
>mute every non-eng speaker instantly

>>534726548
>melee build
>noob trap
sure bud

god damn matchmaking is unbelievably shit right now
literal coin toss which team gets more retards and loses

>>534728365
weekend dota never ends

>>534556736
>look at the ult indication at the top of the screen
>call out that dynamo has no ulti and we should kill the faggot
>kill the faggot

>>534728089
it is, until it stops being a noob trap, its a wave graph.

>>534569178
It should be kill 2 guardians for flex 1, kill 2 walkers for flex 2, kill 2 lanes of base guardians for flex 3 and kill any shrine for flex 4.

>>534578723
won't happen because historically every time the ziggers cry about 'racism' even though they proclaim themselves to be white. I guess part of them realises they're not.

>>534627358
it's also a patch that buffed fucking shiv for some reason. undo that and also remove the active component to his passive and then we can chalk it up as a good patch.

>>534641157
you have to literally say it in the presence of some tranny faggot who knows a moderator personally and only then will it get manually reviewed and lead to bans. t. been 1 month banned 3 months running for calling russians niggers. it always comes suddenly when some whiny little tranny starts declaring "you need a break"

>>534716284
Damn, so his eyes literally glow red in game
>>534728089
Enjoy getting destroyed by a 800 item buddy

pretty sick of the meta, this is the worst it's been in a while in terms of build diversity, every haze builds the same, every wraith builds the same, etc

>>534731071
You can copypaste this shit and post after literally every patch as your personal ritual, because this exact complaint never changes

>>534731541
no, it's objective

>>534731040
literally nobody is buying rebuttal, complete waste of a slot especially since they buffed the parried debuff

I hope they add a melee primary fire hero
>muh last hits and denying
Unlike actual melee, it could let the soul pop out of the creep and need an additional swing to get either yours or the enemy’s. Plus there’s hero labs
What would be cool is if it was like a possessed armor knight type of hero too with a longsword or mace for a bit of range

>>534732056
but how would parrying work

>>534732584
would get completely nullified by parrying. imo the only melee sort of hero that would work is a toggle/stance switcher like troll warlord

>>534732056
This wont be the same, but I loved Kharazim from HotS just because of his close quarters punching attacks. and unrelated loved Nazeebo too

>>534732584
you can’t parry someone holding m1 on you
Them having to be close to you is pretty dangerous as long as they are not overly tanky with the amount of cc and movement in this game

Lash and Vyper are my favorite chatters from heroes

>>534736838
she's so cute

>>534736838
I wish characters would actually chat when nothing important is going on, or in the middle of fights, Valve had discovered that kind of technology back in L4D and that game is ancient

>>534737145
there's already pre-game chatter

>>534738019
That's not really what he's saying. Like, it'd be nice if character said hello joining each other in a lane, or have just a bit of unique dialogue while doing stuff together mid game

>>534738019
speaking of which, how are people using the pre game chatter in game?

>>534650691
>valve hasn't done proper marketing in close to a decade

Luckily they don't need to. They are in a very unique position. They can put this game on a giant banner on their front page for 5 years if they want to. If they want this game to be alive then it will be. Even if its just through millions of 15 year old brazilians farming skins.

What is it that makes Viscous' goo ball so difficult to steer? I feel like it somehow has both oversteer and understeer at the same time

oh boy, fresh salt

>>534742762
if you're in the loading rooftop, before you're swinging in on the cables, you middle click and it'll choose a line at random to just spew out. Usually some gay good luck type thing.

Fuck your buildings

>>534750239
deadlock isnt even remotely toxic, the playerbase is small to begin with and the most you'll get is rightfully called retarded

>>534750658
I mean, he's being a stupid nigger, what do you expect? but yeah the games have been normally pretty chill in archon/oracle, phantom's normally chillish.

What exactly is the point of Bebop's ult right now? Its upgraded damage even on a spirit build loses to an injured haze. With all the map clutter there's just too much cover. Pair that with your slow turning speed you have an ult that makes you a big ass target that does mediocre damage that rarely hits anyone to begin with. Literally the only time it's good is majestic leaping during a base fight

>>534750658
yea most games people won’t even call out your blatant fuck ups in pisslow
occasionally you can get unlucky and some sperg will have a melty and try to argue with you, but that’s any game

>>534751491
in my experience the worst player in the lobby talks the most shit

>>534751290
haze wins a look at each other and just click 1v1 100% of the time because of her retarded passive

>>534752162
honestly true
I was 3/9 (horrid I know) because the calico in lane was clearly a lot better than me and my lane partner. The one who called us out was a 3/7 mcginnis like lol, lmao even

>>534751290
>no t3 or spirit lifesteal
>no healbane/spirit heal reduction
>no return fire
haze is one of those faggot heroes that you have to buy counter items for in 1v1s. Icefrog is such a nigger for it

>>534751290
none of what you have is "spirit build", its all utility stuff

>>534732584
Parry would get deleted before we get the first melee hero.

>>534750239
A good portion of the Deadlock community sucks because it's shared with Valve fanbases, most notably DOTA 2.

Criticize anything about an in development game and 500 defense mechanisms rise to the surface by insufferable fanboys. Do anything wrong, die literally once, and people are already looking to play a political game of who can be the agreed upon weakest link of the team.

>>534750239
Deadlock is literally the least toxic game I've played.

>actual subway

Thoughts deadtards?

>>534754759
i can't see anything

>>534752936
>build with a shit ton of spirit items including "improved spirit" and "spirit slow"
>"not a spirit build"
Are you like retard or something

>>534754759
real leak or mod?

>>534704231
And yet it's still doing leagues better thwn deadlock despite
>being on early access
>having a paywall
>having no bp or cosmetic fomo grind
>having no publicity
It really is interesting, isnt it?

>>534732584
You give them an unparryable melee alongside the normal one. This shit isn't hard to figure out, i swear the people that say this shit havent touched a fighting game in the lives.

>>534755910
>launched with 2.1 million peak
>now sits at only 4x more than deadlock
>"no publicity" when they just had a crossover event with terraria

>>534750239
Even reddit admits the only people left playing are the severely mentally ill.

>>534756832
Only masochists would willingly sit on the cuck chair getting cattle prodded by Yoshi while the bvlls are playing the real build

>>534756352
>terraria
That's another game that mogged the shit out of deadlock while being unfinished and not having any publicity. And these aren't games that you're supposed to play constantly.

>get another phantom lobby with brams
>get top obj and kills
WHY NERF MELEE WHEN SPIRIT BRAMS IS BROKEN AS ALL GET OUT

>>534751290
It's funny how people are looking at this and acting like Haze is a problem hero when this was just giga retarded gameplay, what did you actually expect? Most of your buys are utility too and she probably had fury trance

>>534755825
spirit build implies that its for spirit damage, because bebop scales with spirit. the items he built are spirit, but they are not damage items. the only thing he has that is for damage is tankbuster, which is for burst and applies better on the bomb than the ult. he has nothing else. mystic slow, sure you can hold the ult for longer on people. spirit strike only applies on punchies. it's utility. none of it is actual impact damage, so yeah.. no shit that his ult point blank on a haze is going to do anything. if he had mystic vulnerability, or lifesteal, or debuff reducer to prevent the haze from building her 2 debuffs on him, then she wouldn't be able to just tank his shit. i don't think its an issue

He has improved spirit and it's his Ult and he has other spirit items. His Ult should be beating a soul equivalent damaged Haze's M1.

>>534758864
>he has a dogshit t2 item so he should win against haze that buys 20 orange items because he pressed 4
uh no bro, if you want your ult to be an instant win button in any situation go play ow or something

Your teammates for this evening, sir

>>534758864
haze is 7 - 3, bebop's only support was being reamed by mirage who was also there and lash rotated late to the whole thing. i can't tell from the webm alone but haze started to not lose health, which implies she had lifesteal. pisslow retards don't know how to build, ever and somehow blame it on an entire character. haze is literally c tier, but bebop is arguably lower.

>>534758864
no no no Haze is MEANT to be brain dead. You're not allowed to win as Bebop unless you play 100% perfectly even though your minute long cooldown ult has a charge up and requires you to move at a snail's pace :)

>>534759042
>>534759203
What's the point of his Ult if it's not winning in this scenario? Stop the mental gymnastics. As other anons have said it's very difficult to get continued damage with it due to the map design so blasting someone point blank with your big scary laser beam for a prolonged period should be beating an M1.

>>534759671
bepop's ult doesn't excels at short range because it has 0 fall-off, you are supposed to use it so people run away or to snipe someone low that is badly positioned from far

>>534759671
>What's the point of his Ult if it's not winning in this scenario?
its good for area denial and utility, not assraping in a 1v1. that's what the rest of his kit is for, which he used but the fight was already a loss from the fact that it was all uncoordinated. he should have done it from further back in the walker, where she'd have to position herself safely further out so she isn't stomped and CC'd into oblivion. then she would have actually died if bebop ulted, because she'd be stunned for so long and wouldn't have time to M1 her health back up.

>demoted to Seeker VI

>Shitlows whining about Haze again

>>534761392
one of the hardest snowballs in the game and when she's fed feeding on idiot teammates, she hard punishes for people trying to push lane solo, much less trying to farm.

people are always going to complain about haze

>Haze is... LE BAD
is that why she's been the most popular hero among sweats for the last two years?

>>534761182
>800 hours
>rank only goes down

>>534762407
The people you're referring to as "sweats" are ritualists pubstomping your seeker lobby

>>534763652
If haze is so bad why is there one in every lobby from Eternus to phantom?

>>534764006
Because people enjoy playing her

the people complaining about haze downplay these heroes btw

>>534765248
Isn't Vyper down to like 43% pick rate? How old is this image?

Who is the real face of Deadlock?

>its Iv---
Shut the fuck up troons.

>push two lanes
>get 9+ more kills than anyone
>jungle fast as fuck when jumping to other lanes
>still not 20k+ richer than anyone else like I see in other games with retard hyper carry junglers
fucking HOW this patch makes no sense

>>534766039

Seven

>>534766039
She's the only one with a VN

>>534762858
Literally me.

Low player count = Larger distribution of dedicated players = Rank definition changing with time

So basically Low MMR of today was the Med MMR of 2024.

>>534766039
doorman

>>534750239
>Would I say this infront of them
I would just stab the sort of nigger I berate on a regular basis. Not having a conversation with some monkey retard. But of course this emotionally sheltered autist can't comprehend that I realise fully I can't stab them through a microphone and instead express my anger through words.

>>534766039
haze and abrams

nothing is more satisfying then tagging people off the zip

Unironically though, I think playing this game ruins my mood. Days where I play a bunch of deadlock matches I end the day feeling tense and unhappy.

>>534766039
according to valve and their boring, uninspired character design that somehow pales in comparison to what clearly inspired them? Abrams
According to the people who actually play the game? Ivy

>>534768749
Valve are BaraCHADS unfortunately

>>534767847
anon, if you're not trying to be funny either grow up or go to therapy

>Play new hero
>Get a free ticket to smurf
>Try to play on one of my mains
>Get thrown into an Eternus lobby and everyone has a bad time because of this
Fuck the arguing over if ranked was a good addition or now, hero mmr this strong is the real cancer. I really hope they don't have this shit on release. This feature also makes smurfing worse because people can just abuse having low hero MMR on fresh accounts especially if they're queuing with their buddies which they usually do. What were they thinking?

>>534768940
it's so annoying. Valve clearly has good artists but Abrams is just unforgivably boring when compared to Hellboy. Yeah, let's copy the demon guy with strange anatomy and make him the poster boy for the game about cultists except we'll take away everything that makes him unique, turn him basically into a strong human man which wouldn't even look out of place with this artstyle in the first place, give him the most boring, non-offensive color possible and make him entirely that same color.
It's baffling. It's like a Chinese knock-off except this is the same company that takes 30% off of every game you buy for themselves

>>534769712
He represents the banality of the occult, you understood perfectly. Abrams isn't the chosen one, he doesn't have any special destiny or have to hide himself from the public, he's just a tired detective that happens to be a roided 10ft tall demon.

>>534765414
You can literally see in the top right it's from the last 7 days

the most faggatron dishonest heroes have to be mirage and dynamo

>>534767847
do play ivy perchance

>>534767847
do you play ivy perchance?

>>534770864
anon I love average characters as much as I hate chosen ones. But the fact that he's meant to be normal isn't an excuse for him to look THAT bland and unmemorable when he is meant to be a playable character. Look at Harrison Ford in Blade Runner 1982 vs how they nerfed him in 2017. See what I mean?

>>534773687
but 'brams looks like ford on the left?

>>534768298
nice

>current update was supposedly made to curb deathballs
>Every match is won by the better deathball team
lol

>>534773724
I think you're colorblind

>>534774186
abrams is a gruff, no-nonsense detective. he has the big ass coat, the suit and tie, and the "i'm tired of this shit" attitude. what else do you want him to be?

>>534774329
I dunno, be 5.0023% less blue at the very least? Would it kill them to give him brown pants or something? pic related has more color variance than him and 80% of the song has the word 'blue' in it

>>534775328
>blue, navy blue, and purple

his current color scheme is aesthetically pleasing, I don't see the issue. compare his current model to his old model, now that was ugly.

>two teammates go 0/14 and 0/10
>50k souls lead by the enemy lategame

team games are so dumb

>>534773957
>5 man deathball rolling down a sidelane
>My team dies defending walker after slowly zipping back instead of pushing shit

I really really hope we get better players when we go open beta, I keep getting retards that don't talk and do dumb ass plays that result in us losing.

>>534780157
half of the problem is the lobbies aren't ever equal skill, it's always a grab-bag of shit that isn't fair or balanced or fun for anyone really

>>534767847
based

>>534780273
it's hell if you're the only person talking in a lobby. No one coordinates, no one communicates, there's some retard running into 5 people and dying constantly, and it's just incredibly unfun overall.

>>534780157
>>534780273
yeah I stopped playing for this reason. My team would have no clue what they're doing and I just steamroll and win anyways against opponents who also dont seem to know what they're doing. Even the ones ranked higher than me play like they're bots with no agency. I'm starting to wonder if they're testing some sort of new AI

enough of all this mumbo jumbo, anyone got any leaks ? ? ? im tired of waiting for this patch, game is too bland and same same right now. builds have little to no variation ever since the shop update and everyone plays the same ways over and over

>>534785180
Two more weeks

>>534785180
stop noticing nothing has really changed for 100 days

>>534773687
>>534775328
honestly abrams could stand to be a bit less blue but i don't think his model or pallete are the issue, it's just his animations. They kind of lack a lot of character at the moment. He has a revolver that's loaded with fucking slugs but you wouldn't notice by his shooting animation alone. I get the feeling that they don't exactly know how to pull off the revolver + book combo for him, or at least haven't really tried yet. Instead of doing a heavy melee like Mo by lifting the book and slapping some fools with the hard part of it (or just using his free revolver hand) he slaps people while holding it really awkwardly. His ult animation got made a lot worse because he now looks like he's boringly being lifted by it instead of genuinely holding into it for dear life and slamming down on his own accord. His tackle animation is genuine garbage but honestly I'm not sure there's much to be done there given how bad the ability feels to use in the first place. He's tired and hasn't slept in days because of the book (which is reflected in him having to fucking cuff himself to it in his model) but he's doing fucking one handed pullups on the zipline.

If you made him hunched over but imposing like Hellboy it honestly might make him look a lot better, even Mignola himself realized that that hunched over look gave him a LOT of character, as if he had the weight of the world under him. That and also, honestly, just give everyone in the cast the pupiless or hidden eyes. It genuinely looks more striking and better than the overdesigned ones like Abrams or animu ones like Miku.

>>534785180
unironically nothing's coming out for a few more months at LEAST

>>534785681
>That and also, honestly, just give everyone in the cast the pupiless or hidden eyes.
Sorry bro they want that China money

>>534785220
this confirmed? or just another potential rumor as was the 'open beta' in july?

>>534785463
the general flow and playing of the game has been the same i agree, but i am talking about the nuance with viable play styles. stupid builds like gun lash, speedyanmo, or just any support build.

>>534783764
>I just steamroll and win anyways against opponents who also dont seem to know what they're doing.
Sometimes this happens, but most of the time I get a Haze that WILL not buy a single green item until they have at least one tier 3 orange item. These types of players just jungle the whole game only to die and drop 2k souls to the enemy. Are these bots?

>>534768958
SKIP

>>534779206
>>5 man deathball rolling down a sidelane
>increased side walker HP by 8%
>that'll fix it!

I need a new fucking brawler.
Give me Priest.

>>534769712
Abrams is John Deadlock, the biggest normie in the game with a stable job, friends and zero ties to the occult gods and powers (until the tome randommly appeared in his office and ruined all of this). So ofc he looks mundane.
Ironically enough of all heroes in the game I like his visuals the most (Paradox in the second place), but some animations esp the ult should be tweaked or improved.

>>534785681
>just give everyone in the cast the pupiless or hidden eyes. It genuinely looks more striking and better than the overdesigned ones like Abrams
I like his eyes, they glow nicely and contrast with the rest of his face. He needs more red tertiary color in his palette, his ult used to have minor red particles and was so much better before the particle/animation change

>>534766039
I dont knoooow, maybe the guy you literally see in the game starting menu
Or Geist after VN reelase

>>534702759
>haze
nta but I tried haze while on my alt and people just straight up 4+ man you any time you do anything on the map. I don't like her for carrying
at least Infernus can flame dash in/out and seven can infuser ult.
Haze just evaporates even with unstoppable.

>>534750239
>wahh wahh deadlock so toxic!!!
I have played
DBD
L4D2
TF2
every cod from Mw2 - Black ops 2 on xbox
and League of Legends
and Deadlock isn't even in the same ball park as the least toxic game on here.
fucking OVERWATCH was more toxic than deadlock when I played it and that game is sanitized garbage with voice recording that'll ban you for the slightest infraction.

>>534792270
Abrans is also a normal dude despite being a demon. Meanwhile all the humans are loons and/or no longer human except maybe Holliday.

>>534696247
Seven, Warden, Geist, and Infernus are the easiest (in order of how braindead they are) because they're strong all game. If you wanna play gun carry on Geist though make sure you max bomb early to turbofarm.

Wraith is good too but her early game is just dogshit and you have to play her like a pussy until you're turbofarmed unless you can pick off an easy ultable target.

Haze is pretty ass but simplistic wouldn't really recommend her above any of the ones previously mentioned, it can be a pretty horrible playing her. I'd say try Vyper too but she recently got a big nerf cause they beefed up her hitbox so she's likely not as good.

Jungle creeps and boxes are fucking useless.
I just stopped doing both and my average networth increased by 60% by doing nothing but fighting and pushing lanes.

>>534799115
good, it should never be the optimal strategy to avoid the enemy players
the last update finally brought games down to consistently be 30 minutes

>>534799115
Nah they're perfectly useful just dedicating large portions of time to doing it is retarded, also people generally jungle the most retarded way by doing something like winning lane then instantly retreating back and taking the camps closest to base.

>>534750239
Outside of few mentally ill russians the game is exactly the opposite
Full of annoying "UwU be gay do crime" redditor faggots that ruin the game and tell you to chillout. Problem is these people think saying faggot or nigger is the biggest offense you can do in videogames, even bigger than cheating lol

>>534799115
they are good only if your character and/or build are good enough to farm them basically instantly as you are moving towards doing something useful (ie pushing lane)

>>534799115
boxes are most definitely worth it, especially during laning phase. I'm usually able to buy items before anyone else when I'm paying attention and ready for them to spawn in.
Boxes should replace retarded, outdated "jungle creeps" entirely.

>>534768749
>ivy fans
>playing the game

Never seen the game, this general, and the player base so dead, broken, and boring. MikaelS hasn't played in more than a month. Can we chalk it up to a failed experiment and wait for a new, younger developer to try something like this again?

>>534801673
Decrease the jungle camps but make each of then mre unique and tied to a potential minor objective

>>534812278
well we've never had 3 months between patches before, once they sell hats everyone will be back

>>534812278
maybe it's because it's been 100+ days since we got an actual update or something like that...

They should've never let anyone join, all these retarded fags that cry about shiv and gt and melee are ruining the fucking game with these stupid balance changes.

>>534812278
I'm reinstalling and gonna play some games to see what it is like (haven't played since before 3 lanes) but I genuinely think this game is not gonna survive, it's too niche and difficult to have a casual playerbase, skill ceiling is in the clouds tho.

>>534813608
Might as well wait for the next big update which shouldn't be too far off.

>>534813778
Weren't people saying that about the most recent patch which turned out to be a nothingburger?

>>534813942
that was just speculation getting out of hand, but Yoshi confirmed a big patch at some point, I'm guessing a month away

>>534813942
the most recent patch wasn't a big patch
the item rework was a pretty big deal, if that's what you actually meant

>>534813942
we know it has at least 7 new heroes so even if there's nothing else it's hard for that to be a nothingburger

>>534814670
Add 100 heroes if you like, that's not the issue; the issue is that the game has an identity crisis that, like the Civil War, has been there since the beginning and is about to reach its breaking point (or already has). It wants to be both niche and autistic but also casual and noob-friendly. It wants to be a MOBA and a shooter but dilutes both elements. Until they resolve this fundamental issue the game is going to continue losing players and eventually die

>>534815101
>identity crisis

no, it's been going solidly in the direction of a MOBA since the item shop rework

>>534815223
>perma-teamfight brainrot meta since the item shop rework
>going solidly in the direction of a MOBA
Brother, fucking Marvel Rivals is closer to a MOBA at this point than this game

>>534815101
>NOOOOOO IT HAS TO BE EXACTLY LIKE OLD GAMES WITH NO DIFFERENCE OR IT WILL DIE AND NO ONE WILL PLAY IT
then the same people wonder why every dev keeps churning out the same dogshit slop and remakes year after year
deadlock has only been getting shittier with each update btw, 3 lane was a mistake, every new hero is giga cancer and/or anti-fun, and the balance is a mess
only really good updates to the game were some map changes and new items

>>534815574
hence the recent change to teleports making macro important again

I'm a full on dotard but I think that valve should launch with a tf2-lite game mode for the casuals instead of turbo, would help the game get a ton of traction. Either that or PvE.

>>534817930
they should just make mvm on deadlock
i mean mvm is already kind of similar to assfaggots because you get money to buy items and...
wait a second, how come no one ever made a tf2 assfaggots gamemode with the mvm item shop? it would literally make itself

>>534818259
they did last halloween as an event map

>>534818329
oh
what map?

>>534750239
>Untreated mental illness
Didn't have to tell us mate

>>534758192
Hyper Beam is one of the best Spirit-Scaling spells in the game. Having that amount of spirit increases the damage of his beam by nearly 70%. Uppercut also applies Spirit Strike
I'm a Haze spammer but at least I'm not a huge faggot like yourself who pretends to know how the game works so you can shit on someone who got fucked over by terrible game design

>>534818413
cp_freakyfair

Lads I've just had another game that felt like it was decided on the team composition screem and not the actual match.

>>534819907
Welcome to MOBAs. Even when people swear up and down that (anon's MOBA of choice) is immune to this issue, it always is.

You have build potential, but in a developed meta not THAT much.

>>534819407
cope, the retard pulled a haze with more kills than him and 1k more souls that clearly built for damage instead of utility like his retarded ass. he spam pinged her too because he wanted dynamo to do something ignoring that he was getting his ass raped by mirage. people who play like the bebop and defend him just prove that they're right where they need to be in pisslow

>>534822407
he's a faggot, claims ult maxxing but is clearly bomb maxxing with echo shard. if he had boundless + suppressor and t3 ult he actually wins that no problem

The patches have been atrocious for some time. If this next major patch plays like dog shit I think it's time to move on. I just played some BF6 the past few days and it was refreshing not dealing with shit like "team mate fed so now you get raped" you just shoot some faggot in the face job done. I've put thousands of hours into MOBAs. They can be satisfying to get good at, to rank on. However, this game lacks the population to make any of that happen. I think they blew their load too early and it won't swing back. Not even valve can save a doomed game. It's just genuinely grueling playing into the meta cast and the simple fact is, no one wants to play with russian team mates. If they balance the cast and add region locking there's a shot. But people have been clamouring for that since the game came out. They gave it a fucking week.

>>534800648
I'll let you in on a little secret. The trannies love cheating. They try to cheat god. This is standard for them.

>>534811149
>nerf the shit out of a hero to the point it can only build rescue beam nova
>wow why is no one playing it

>>534814107
people were saying this in fucking june

>>534824486
>valve blew their load too early
there hasn't been a load, you're slurping up pre-cum
it's an early development playtest and most people don't know it even exists, just managed to get popular with 4chan and valve obsessives

>>534819407
Imagine I told you it used to do twice the damage it does now.

>>534825060
i've been doing well with a rat ivy build i've cooked up after a bad streak of attempting meme builds

>>534825386
anon valve owns the largest store for games. people know.

>>534825683
go to any normalfag site where anyone is talking about deadlock and you'll see hordes of retards either thinking it's hard to get into the playtest or straight up thinking it's not possible
there's also a lot of people that know it's easy/got in but want to wait until it's more finished

>>534825627
the issue with this is that you load up the same builds on anyone else and it's significantly more effective. what's the build anyway?

>>534825683
the page for deadlock on the largest store for games has zero information besides "coming soon", is hidden unless you search for it, and only shows the main menu webm

>>534824486
TRVTHNVKE.
>>534825386
They blowed their full load. Nobody is coming back just because of a new banner on the store
>B-bbut they'll mass shill advertise it on the steam store once its out!
Not only did this not work for artifact and underlords, that would also open up valve to a mega lawsuit with monopoly abusing shilling that blatant.

>>534824486
I've said it a million times over the game is just too niche. 3rd person shooter + MOBA + advanced movement tech, it's going to be simply too hard to get into for anyone after a year of it being out if it's even still alive by that point and so it will have no casual player base and will die. If you're an avid MOBA fan you'll just play the one you already like and have sunk 1k+ hours into, if you're an arena shooter lover then you're playing rivals.

>>534825830
boundless spirit is potentially a meme but it worked well for me last time, i've gotten other stuff over it but it felt more effective so far
order is whatever besides getting the first 6 items first
order i go for abilities is 1 of each then max 1 then level 2 and max stone form (or the other way around)
used to buy fleetfoot but it feels like it takes too much space

>>534826072
don't look at the cs2 launch vs cs:go's initial player numbers it ruins your narrative
the truth is that artifact and underlords weren't real games, and it's dishonest to pretend they were

>>534826430
nta the only reason cs exists is gambling the game itself is shallow dog shit. siege is miles better.

>>534826430
don't rattle the autistic cage too hard or they'll never shut up

Who advocated for them to double down on the MOBA design?
Do you actually feel good when you win a fight, only because you're up on souls? Do you think you're actually getting better at anything, or going anywhere?
When you spend 1000 hours playing a game just to end up at 50/50, does that make you feel good about the time invested? Is that a reflection of how real life works?

If you worked for a company for 1000 hours, got 2 promotions, and then 3 demotions, would you feel good about your career?

>>534826989
don't disagree but from what I've played cs2 made everything worse except for the graphics and smoke grenades, but managed to pull in double the players GO was doing, just because of the advertising push

>>534826418
imo EE is miles better if you had to choose

>>534827134
i did go for EE at first thinking the same thing and after deliberation and testing decided that EE is a gigameme
the damage increase seems to be pitiful even in prolonged engagements and it only gets better after fighting for like 8-10 seconds
boundless is always increasing your power instantly, kudzu by about +50 dps and tesla to 55-60 damage plus it also upgrades your lifesteal and fire rate in covenant which also increases your tesla dps because tesla works better the higher your fire rate is
it also makes ult bomb -> kudzu -> stone form gank be way more immediately deadly because ult and stone form have good spirit scaling

>>534827119
Teamwide soul counts are an objective measure of skill, the issue is that playing a team game with randoms is inherently volatile. A team with a large advantage should have an easier time winning, lest you end up with 50 minute borefests.
Individual soul counts can be inflated by mindless farming, but outside of shitlow that means you're vacuuming the farm away from the rest of your team making them weaker and drawing a target on your back.

>>534825386
>this cope again

>>534826430
csgo and csgo2 are literally the same fucking game
you should be comparing the end of life csgo player numbers to csgo you dimwit

>>534825803
>le epic people get filtered because closed beta maymay
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/YuaxcntlfLY

>>534831669
buy an ad

chet, what are your next plans after the anacrusis came and went?

>>534826430
the autists never played videogames before nor do they know about numbers

>the cope runs so wrong people think actual developers lurk this place
i guess it makes sense since people genuinely thought valve devs posted here before but jesus that's just sad

>>534833015
when aren't devs lurking here? endless amount of valve devs, scott cawthon, harvest moon ripoff guy, list goes on and on

>>534833286

if any deadlock dev is posting here they will reply with a very esoteric description of something that will come out in the next update to confirm it but also have enough plausible deniability to ignore it if anyone asks

>>534831325
>the same fucking game can get exponential player boosts from adding skins, progression, and advertising
wow

>>534833015
they hope their shitty takes and vents actually do something here when they inevitably end up sperging out after a forced loss lol

>>534834293
deadlock devs are too busy trying to find new places to store their money to even post here

Is spirit Viper a thing?

>>534835108
were you the one defending viper before the patch? lmaoing @ your life

devs look at 4chan just not deadlock devs, this game isn't big enough to warrant that sort of attention nor are the threads active enough, and moreover they absolutely would hail reddit firstly

>>534836463
no I think vyper still deserves more nerfs

>>534836620
reddit has even more whining than /dlg/

>>534836620
i know that hotpoo looks at this thread from time to time

>>534770950
>top right

Left

>last 7 days

I don't know when the screen cap was taken, it's not fucking time stamped. Also, even if it was accurate to the day anon posted it, that means it was pulling from 5 days of pre-nerf vyper and 2 days of post-nerf vyper.

>>534838891

devs don't lurk here, if they did, they would nerf ivy every patch just to farm rage

>>534839681
>they would nerf ivy every patch just to farm rage
erm...

Ivy secure

you know, I was thinking of sinclair and why the pickrate is so low. I don't think it's just the kit, I think the lore concept turns people off. I like the originality, but a squabbling divorced couple isn't really endearing.

>>534840679
Or it's the extremely basic ass fucking placeholder model.

>>534840818
sinclair had a decent pickrate when the double hex melee meme was strong. I just think the character concept is hard to identify with. you have a lot of people quoting 'brams, lash, ivy, etc. sinclair not so much.

>>534840679
he's not very easy to play, not fun, and not OP
same reason why nobody plays mirage, except for the times he was overpowered
the aesthetics don't matter that much, they are fine

>>534840679
>>534840818
>>534840964
you're crazy if you think stuff like "lore" "likability" and "design" control pick rates for the third world metadorks that play this game.

Calico is a 5 head black lady and as long as she's good she's getting picked

>>534841020
I see mirage picked a decent amount. and while he's sort of plain, he has a great design and his djinn screaming is funny/likeable.

>>534841093
well, obviously I'm not a meta-dork. viscous has an extremely low winrate yet he has a ton of one tricks because he's unique and very likeable.

>>534841317
i never see mirage, he has a bottom of the barrel pickrate that isn't lower only because he's still decently strong

>>534841093
>you're crazy if you think stuff like "lore" "likability" and "design" control pick rates for the third world metadorks that play this game.
all the ivy mongoloids disprove what you are saying

>>534834293
When Jachim and Boaz were erected on the founder pavements under our god, the great temple closed it doors - sealed with blood and sand. On the 17th moon, the great seal will erode.

In other words, we're lowering the global movement speed to 3m/s, removing lanes, and halving the amount of souls that you get from all sources. We hope you had fun staring at our various hyper sigils located around the game - most of which are designed to turn you into a tranny and get you addicted to 8 inch uncuck cocks. Get fucked and thank you for playing.

>>534843840
>and get you addicted to 8 inch uncuck cocks

you're not a dev at all, you're an ivy main!

>>534843523
i would absolutely not play ivy if she had the kit of dynamo, mirage or haze
her kit is fun, kudzu is simple but effective, stone form is probably the most satisfying ability in the game and flying around with the ult is cool and lets you be everywhere
only not much of a fan of covenant, the sharing is too weak to be relevant 99% of the time and the fire rate/lifesteal buffs are too basic i probably would've liked it if ivy never had fleetfoot as a passive and covenant always gave it to you but now it feels gay to not always have fleetfoot passive

>>534844480
covenant is underrated, its a big regen boost in lane for your duo, especially if you can do a full rite share.

>>534847698
i'm not saying it's bad i spam that shit on cooldown on lane because even with no heal items you can restore a bunch of health but it just feels like it's shit
i am sure i'll grow to like it more as i get used to ivy being a turtle when it's not active

>>534847698
>bro just sit still with tether for rite so you can give your team mate 54 HP
nah. you just pop that shit. it's only relevant for burst healing.

So like, what exactly is Tesla bullets used for on characters like Wraith or I guess sometimes McGinnis?
I know before the shop update, it paired extremely well with Bullet Resist Shredder if you never buy Spirit otherwise

>>534848090
I honestly think toxic bullets is always better. It too applies spirit debuffs.

>>534848049
didn't say healing, said regen.

>>534848090
it increases the damage you do
there's no other reason

>>534848090
>>534848431
the only thing I can think of is that it bounces to other targets which may be slightly useful in farms?

>>534840679
he's great in an ult max build, but only when the enemy has a seven / dynamo / pocket. no draft makes him half as good

>>534848297
It's the same thing? You are healing 54 HP over 12s from tether replication with a healing rite active. That's all you're giving him.

>>534849706
which is better than 0 hp

>start buying trophy hunter
>start winning games
So did you guys lie to me?

again why does holiday have recoil when nobody else does? playing her feels terrible because of it

>>534850447
>get shot once
>a cooldown and you sitting around for 12s gets undone
yeah sounds retarded ngl

>>534841580
>i never see mirage
says a lot about your rank i guess

>>534850475
I love trophy because I get loads of assists. I assume its not that great if you're actually good

>>534854443
You get it for kills too dude, in fact you just need to be near for a stack

>>534850475
i hate trophy because i always end up something like 4/4/8 because i'm always too busy lane jannying and ratting

Character that wants to ask patron to become beautiful

why did they remove seven self cast stun tho

>>534863279
fun not allowed, they'll remove it on bepop next too

>>534840679
He's my second most played character but between the weird kit, high skill floor and ugly placeholder model it doesn't surprise me that people don't play him. And i hope it stays that way for the near future, sure is fun blowing people up with vexing bolts and mowing down walkers in 3 seconds

>>534749787
When you accelerate your turn rate gets fucked
Same as bird

deathy getting gaped live on stream

>>534753335
>A good portion of the Deadlock community sucks because it's shared with Valve fanbases, most notably DOTA 2.
You could have just said Russians.

>>534865327
nvm, he's winning because he's on duo queue. these streamers are all dishonest

>>534850475
whatever avatarfag

We need turbo mode jesus christ I'm tired of this fucking monopoly 50 minutes game shit. Why the fuck is this eco so painfully slow like damn nigga why can't items just be cheaper or some shit like I'm tellin you mannnn if they dont make this game actually fun and think just adding more heroes is going to do it then im gonna REDEEEEEM

>>534867043
How the fuck do your games reach 50 minutes
Mine barely reach 40

But yeah I agree turbo would be kino
Maybe a smaller 2 lane map even

Do you think Holliday is next for the ban hammer or do you think she's in a good spot?

>>534869192
I meant nerf hammer

>>534869192
its a character that can't ever be balanced, too much power in one kit if you know what you're doing and have any amount of coordinated teamplay.

>get rejuv
>win
>enemy get rejuv
>lose
sigh

by the time we get the fucking update there's going to be like 12 players left.

whats the point of delete the enemy base
game should end when you cap rejuv ffs

>Deadlock devs (retarded): "UHH SOUL REBIRTH IS OP SO WE'RE GONNA REMOVE IT!"
>Deadlock devs (retarded): "UHH WE GAVE EVERYONE SOUL REBIRTH FOR FREE NOW LOL, AND YOU GET PASSIVE BUFFS!!!"

>>534872703
At least you got to practice your skills against AI minions for 30 minutes before the game ended for no reason

Rejuv actually means something now and games theoretically end quicker, why are you all whining? Is it because this thread is full of brooltards that don't like there being consequences for wiping because they chased the enemy all the way to base?

>>534873460
It's just a free win now, retard. If you don't have a problem with that then you should push for >>534872261

>>534873460
Yeah man you just have to kill em twice each now, who would be retarded enough not to like that right?

>>534869192
>>534869838
Let's be honest, she's basically a Lash clone with her bounce but doesn't have commit to going in with a Ground Slam, just toss tons of Barrels

>>534873608
>>534873651
The better team gets a team wipe and gets rewarded for it, what exactly is the problem with that? Stop taking stupid fights and coordinate with your team in the team based game.

>>534873909
I'm a higher rank than you.

>>534873831
headshot passive has no particular synergy with her kit, so she ends up feeling very feast (kill 2-3 at a time with barrel combos) or famine (do nothing except poke hard during lane and then be useless rest of the game)

>>534872703
yes if you drop an objective like midboss you should be punished, as opposed to 1 guy getting an extra life for fun because he farmed all game

>>534872703
>item someone can buy and you can't do anything against vs single use game mechanic that notifies everyone on the map

>>534869192
her CC and support will make her be good no matter what, probably will end up in a bepop situation where she does 0 damage because the jump pad, barrel and ult are too good for helping your teammates get kills/flee like bepop's hook

>>534874165
It has 3 uses and increased uses each midboss kill, mouthbreather-chan.

>>534873997
>Tries to start rankjerking cause he's a shitlow brooltard
I'm Eternus 6 and a pro player btw

>>534874195
bebop can do hooks from relatively safe positions, holliday is far more committal than even lash

>>534874262
>he immediately jumps to eternus because he knows his archon rank isn't impressive
lmao

>>534874426
that's irrelevant to the point of the post

>>534874637
she's not on the level of being practically useful like bebop is. jump pad would be great if enemies couldn't jump it

>>534874440
>Making fun of Archon because he's peak Phantom and thinks that's good
Kek

>>534874776
Her jump pad should just have a period of 1-2 seconds where enemies can't use it

>>534869192
Icehack balances based off winrates, and Holliday with her honest kit will deter having a sperg out from the icefaggot

>>534876934
Idk he kept nerfing the shit out of shiv even though he wasn't breaking 50% winrate

>>534877407
oh yea true
I think it’s because the community has such a hateboner for shiv and complains so much about him. I rarely see anybody ever mention Holliday on any forums

Icefrog holliday is perfectly balanced and you dont need to touch her kit trust me I was a bounce pad stun fag

>>534870540
I won a game where enemy got two rejuvs in a row

>>534869192
She's so damn fun to play

>>534872703
Posts like these are the reason why devs made a private test

>>534869192
>Do you think Holliday is next for the ban hammer

No. How can they? She's one of the high skill ceiling heroes where if you nerf her because people who are good with her can do crazy stuff, then you make her unusabley bad for the vast majority of normal players

Just nerf the bounce pad to not have stocks. Simple. So many issues in this game are because skills that are strong can just outright get an additional stock for cheap.

>>534880860
If they did this they would need to remove the ability for enemies to use the bounce pad too, which is a lot more boring imo

Holliday is kino
Just make the crackshot build more viable

Fuck off

>>534880860
>>534881659
who are you retarded niggers talking to

>>534881961
Yoshi

Spirit Haze is lowkey kind of good? I thought it was stupid but it kinda works. And more importantly its super fun, you actually feel like an assassin throwing daggers around

>>534767823
>doorman
>mans the door

>>534884805
>Spirit Haze is lowkey kind of good?
why do Alchemist niggers try and innovate when they're clinically fucking retarded.

>>534886921
don't act like you haven't been gigaraped by an echo shard sleep dagger haze before

>>534886986
>actually
>unironically alchemist
>thinks people get "gigaraped" by fucking echo shard haze
it's actually so over for this general.

>>534887719
you must have fewer than 50 matches, cute newfag

The game needs to be less MOBA and more shooter
And I'm not even joking

>>534869192
>>534869838
What the fuck is this horseshit? Any time I tried to use barrels with this dumb bitch enemies would just walk THROUGH the barrel and nothing would happen.
They're so fucking slow too.

>>534888707
it doesn't mention in the ability, but barrels are basically useless if you don't quick melee them

>>534888794
What does meleeing them do?

>>534889074
sends them flying in the direction that you're looking and causes them to explode when they hit the ground

>>534889185
I'm going to skin Yoshi alive.

>>534862704
ivy?

>>534886921
I'm Emissary, but more importantly i like having fun with the game. Especially since in my rank pretty much anything is viable. Never liked playing Haze, but the spirit build is really fun. Besides, its not really inovating, it has been a thing for a long time now.

>>534886174
>drifter
>drifts
>vampire girl
>vampire bat
>frankenstein's monster
>frank
>librarian girl
>bookworm
>priest
>priest
>punk man with goathead
>punkgoat

BRAVO DEADTARDS

How long do you think it will take to reach bump limit?

>>534889334
Make sure when you're right next to an enemy that you jump, barrel, then melee it right on your feet. It's an instant explosion right on top of you.

Damn, queues take forever now. This game might be actually over.

>>534898189
it already is anon

>>534898189
not for me

If you are getting burned out just play new heroes, it's fun and usually you get a free smurf card for whatever reason because Yoshi is a hack

why do people even care about ranking up or boasting about their rank lol
It sounds unfun to go against people who actually buy counter items for you

>>534891586
>temp names
>LOOK AT HOW STUPID THESE ARE

Bravo incels

I play on my main with my noob friends and it's only omega sweat. smurfing lets us play together and goof off a bit. anyone else?

Valve should add a deer hero and call her... Uhhhh, i dunno... Doe?

>>534907609
They should add an undead deer hero and name her Jane Doe. Ideally a prostitute.

>character is a viper
>name: Vyper
Bravo

>>534907710
Nobodies gonna hire an undead prostitute, sicko.

>>534907710
>Ideally a prostitute
I wish I lived in Deadlock land just to hire monster girl and undead girl prostitutes

>>534903497
heh they let me play vyper in initiate

>>534907885
>>534907829
I was thinking that she was a serial murder victim since whores tend to be one of the most common targets. Of course she's not a prostitue anymore after she got revived.

>>534888481
Truthnuke.
Every hero shooter right now is shit.
It’s fucking grim.

>>534907982

bro we already have vindicta and frank
we dont need more fucking dead heroes

>>534888481
Truth. The changes to make it fit the mobabox has only cause the game to be worse in quality.

>>534888481
Wrong, >>534908106
>>534908278
wrong

we have a billion shitty hero shooters already. We dont need more, we have like, 3 moba's, we need more. Its fucking math

Whats even the point of adding another undead when it will just be another boring as fuck icenigger design?

>>534908278
that’s just wrong
deathball meta and guardians/walkers foing jackshit is so aids

>>534908409
We have trillions of mobas, you just don't play them.

>>534908542
Like splittranny/freeze meta is any better.

>>534908496
Is this a new hero? Who is that?

>>534908496

khez?

>>534908693
unironically yes
the game doesn’t become a complete stomp with disparaging soul discrepancies and ending in 15 min

BOHO BROS????

>>534910421
nigga

>>534910421
So boho is a witch

>>534910421

>>534907779
if this game was made a couple decades ago when people cared to be unique, she'd shoot the machine gun from her mouth instead of giving her forced retarded arms

>>534910421
>acorn shot

ICEFRAUD

>>534910686
how am I supposed to hold hands with her if she had no hands?

>>534910421
Real?
What does this mean Boho is in still.

>>534910421
Fake
>>534911456
we know we are not getting boho

>>534912316
you do know there's a secret playtest and a super secret playtest right?

>>534911456
>we know we are not getting boho
Source? She's still in the game.

>>534912682
Meant to quote >>534912316

why cant those super secret bitches post a damn leak or soemthing? i dont give a damn if they had to sign some supposed nda, i want new info before this game goes even further into the shitter than it already has

>>534913050
>>534913050
>>534913050
>>534913050

>>534863279
because having infernus ult as a basic ability was not alright