Thread 534579080

Dominions is a fantasy turn-based war game created by two dudes. One of them is a teacher.
The game combines a simple presentation with an extremely wide array of strategic options, including over 3400 units, 1100 spells and 400 magic items. Turns are resolved simultaneously, with players planning battles rather than directly controlling them. It has simplistic graphics but is easily moddable and extremely deep.
Basically, it's an autist’s wet dream of a war game.

>Our pastebin (extremely outdated)
https://pastebin.com/wjbSA98Y

>Steamgroup
https://steamcommunity.com/groups/vanheimageofvidya

>Multiplayer guide
>Blitzserver (game hosting service)
https://blitzserver.net
(Dom 6)
https://beta.blitzserver.net/games
>Llamaserver:
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1212948582

>Documentation
https://illwinter.com/dom6/docs.html

>Tools
>Mod inspector
https://larzm42.github.io/dom6inspector/
>Wiki
https://illwiki.com/
>Pretender calculator
https://zollqir.github.io/pretenders-dom6/
https://caleb-distributive.github.io/pretenders-dom6/ (website down?)
>Debug mod
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3083231618
>Communion fatigue calculator (still dom5)
https://instacalc.com/53495
>Automatically prevent starts in all provinces with less than X connections (still dom5)
https://nixx.is-fantabulo.us/dom5ranmapnos/

>How do I change the fonts?
Replace guifont.ttf, guifont_fancy.ttf and guifont_texty.ttf in the game's 'data' folder (C:\Steam\steamapps\common\Dominions6\data)

>Fan art
https://thronebooru.booru.org

>Sloop’s Comfy Balance Mod
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1zeDyK8Zb_p4lIJ0yp3a3ikMprRkmBCWvy31_4jBen3Q/edit?usp=sharing

Previous Turn of the Wheel:
>>533144863

Who can stop him?

Do your turn in Cracked pls

>>534581458
I lost my danjer chickun meme.

What do you think of my const 3 thug? Going to go beat some trolls asses.

>>534582595
Looks good, he should be alright

>>534582595
>danjer chickun meme
Pretender?

>>534582595
Encumbrance/10

>>534589683
I tag teamed them with my tendie and my troll. The troll did his job, though just barely. He got left behind and had to shove his way to the front.

new games recruiting?

>>534592151
I think I will make a vanilla MA game next week.

>>534593502
Custom map or not?

baited

>>534593572
Probably random, as Illwinter intended.

>>534593794
>losing 58 black minotaurs to mictlan chaff
that's really bad, isn't it?

>>534593794
What game

Ouch.

>>534597671
To be fair it was 50 minotaurs versus literally 1000 chaff

>>534600585
Says 480 right there boss

>>534601058
It doesn't show the maxed out prov def

Ermor won't stay still and let me clobber him.

>>534601258
BASED but that's not 1000 units boss

>>534601626
what if they summoned salamanders?

>>534601258
Show replay

>>534601784
Uh you can combat summon salamanders now?

>>534602009
Just imagine 600 slingers going off at once and you've got the replay

>>534602093
Don't black minos have armor?

>>534602958
They have 10, not enough to stop 12 damage slings completely.

Helheim do turn you Unfinishitter

>>534579080 (OP)
>he made a new thread before the old one died
i dont think i've seen this happen in like, 5 years.

>>534606604
rock > bull-man
Nature cannot be beaten

>>534606274
>just because you're paranoid doesn't mean they're not actually coming for you

>>534606604
Holy lel

>>534606604
>The black minotaurs running across the foreground
kino

>>534609603
I think i saw one running away with a used playstation.

>>534606604
Based

Dust to dust

>>534606604
This would make for a good animated banner, now that I think about it.
>>534611593

>>534606980
more like rock beats tree

>>534606604
got blown out by the eagle warriors.
mestizos on cocaine can actually fly.

>>534614515
you know its sad, i actually had to progress up the boomer tech tree.

>VCR? no
>DVD? no
>Blue Ray? no, nobody buys those anymore..

Anyone interested in a magic enhanced game?

>>534618362
Nah, reddit ruined it

>>534618362
wotz dat?

>>534620086
Basically huge mega mod back in Dominions 4/5
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3539874770
Warning, it 's pretty much only updated by redditors now

>>534620520
I know about DE but you said (typed) Magic Enhanced

>>534620640
Ah that was just Dominions enhanced but it only effected generic spells, not pretenders or balance iirc

>>534618362
Didn't it just come out like last week? Might want to give it another week or so for the inevitable bug fixes and major balance oversights.

a dream deferred

ULMBROS DON'T LOOK

>>534623540
She looks malnourished

>>534625740
its been tough since the morgens went away

Holy fuck. This is Const 5 by the way.

>>534626016
are celtic elves actually good to their subjects? it's pretty obvious the vanir aren't

>>534617003
Pick up VHS while you can, anon

>>534626441
This is an extremely important subject

The vanir are more broadly evil than the tuatha, with their blood sacrifices and more focus on warfare. The tuatha are insular and focus on abstract things like poetry, and spend more time getting invaded than doing any invading, so they are on track to be good overlords, but the fir bolg are resentful and no advertisement for the benefits of tuatha rule.

The merrow, though, come from a more disadvantaged background, since they were working with stones and skins at the tribal level before the morgen came around, and the morgen were also less in number than the tuatha ever had been, so their rule could not be as overt.

Even so, the merrow may well be more joyously loyal than their situation merited. There are always laborers that enable leisure, and for such a leisured class as the morgen who only interest themselves in war, esoteric art and aesthetics, the merrow would seem to be getting a pretty raw deal. There is a petty merrow nobility, though, and the city of crystal and bronze surely afforded more material wealth and social sophistication for the merrow than they had previously, even after it is skimmed.

The morgen are more than just the purveyors of a superior standard of living and social model, though, they are an ideal- their elegance and competence is aspirational . The combination of their more-or-less benevolent rule with their clear superiority, when combined with the innate good nature of merrow that precludes fir bolg-esque resentment, makes the merrow a truly contented subject race. Samwise or Uncle Remus in the garden, writ on a racial scale; they are as close as family without ever presuming the equality that family implies, and are happy to spend their days brushing hair, pouring tea, dusting and in all ways tending to their morgen mistresses.

>>534626371
>5f5b for a hard to negate banish

>>534628165
Yeah but how you gonna hit a dude

Gnight domg

>>534628165
>on every swing of a GSS
>additionally gives fire resist
>vine shield at the same tech level is completely unchanged from vanilla
You can tell whoever made the item really hates thugs, SCs, and giant sacreds.

>>534631574
Isn't it an artifact tho

>>534631754
In vanilla it is.

>>534631574
Vine shield and in a more general manner elves getting utterly raped was the best thing to ever happen to dominion

FUCK ELVES

>>534631963
Elves don't need vine shield anymore because they can just cast shroud of bewilderment.

>>534631754
DE dropped it down to construction 5.

ERIU
TURN
PLEASE

>>534632218
Incredibly based.The mod that will save dominos

>>534632218
Doesn't DE give you a shitton of stuff

>>534579080 (OP)
Beans

>>534634071
It changes and adds an absolute fuckton and to my knowledge there's no documentation to go with it.

>>534641013
Isn't that half the fun?

>>534641013
Github has some documentation for nations but yeah it doesn't give line by line unless you want to look at the files.

What nation changes the most?

>>534650525
Mechanically or thematically?

>>534633214
I AM NO LONGER ASKING
DO IT
NOW

>>534652429
Both?

>>534653487
My personal guess would be the Yomi -> Shinu -> Jomon line, which while sharing many units, goes from a nation which is thematically a demonic invasion and practically a freespawn supercombatant hellbless focused nation, to an all scales half ogre heavy infantry nation (again with good supercombatants) of goblins ruling over men, to Japan, now a fairly normal human nation with some unique national summons.

>>534650525
Assuming you mean DE, it’s mostly generic changes, maybe a nation has an extra unique spell or two for more flavour, I don’t think any were really completely changed. Theredos can do the no-popkill meme more easily with its free ritual I guess, +2 growth wherever you keep a mage casting it.

DE is soulless and gay

Why play late age? Early age seems more thematic.
But then again, why didn't the last Pantokrator advance magic...

>>534631963
chud detected

Is there an issue connecting to blitzserber games or did I accidentally fuck something when that windows firewall prompt came up?

havent played this game in months and i came back to have a dom6enhanced match w friends and i had a lot of fun and idk how much of that is me missing the game and how much of that is dom6enhanced being fun

>>534668810
you have to install the blitzserver crypto miner on your computer first

>>534660882
late age has the most developed interaction between the nations and the most ~lived in world~

Its grounded and has more ~verisimilitude~ because everything is getting worse

(its also the most skill-intensive of the ages)

>>534669292
Okay, I'm mining now and it works. (It was some firewall thing)

>>534660882
LA is for sweating and powergaming to make use of the ridiculous astral and blood magic access

>>534660882
You like bigger armies of generics

Now think about what I can do if I don't iron bane my own army, R'lyeh.

>>534676692
Holy lel

>>534601258
>eagle warrior PD

what

>>534681494
MA

Do your cracked turn Man

Shadowbolt

>>534605647
Having 4 times as much stuff means having turns that take 4 times as long. Muspelheim conquered his third throne this turn by the way. Do you want me to just play poorly while waiting for him to win or something?

>>534605647
Also state for the class which player you are in the game so I can diplo you accordingly.

>>534690337
How fucking complicated is Helheim jesus christ

>>534690337
My man, you choose to be the hellblessed elves. There's a reason you got jumped.

>>534692285
>>534692431
It's a combination of problems. I went 1 dom hellbless, so my whole nation is basically thug spam. I vastly underestimated how much of a scripting nightmare this would become after expansion phase. SCBM's 1 gem items mean there's no reason not to be making multiple items every turn, meaning even more micro. The new cavalry commander item UI is fucked, because you can't see saddles (which are 1 gem in SCBM) from the F1 screen, so you need to manually fucking remember or check for them. Helheim's anyfort mages are almost all G1, so if you want the good G buffs you need to give them gems, which is even more scripting bullshit. Worst of all, I didn't take fucking FR in a game where I'd definitely have heat auras as my neighbors, so I need to raid around or script items every time I get into battles with them. Also I've never played this nation or build concept in MP before.

I'm totally fine with being in a multi sided war, if anything I'm very well suited for that. It's just the scripting that's turned into an absolute nightmare. I'd honestly prefer scripting sabbaths over this shit.

>>534693454
But well, I'm streamlining bit by bit, and also slowly dying, so things should improve over time. Hopefully. I'll also try to get a second turn in today because it's sunday.

>>534693454
>Dom 1
Wut

if any turn takes you longer than 15 minutes to finish then you are wildly overthinking things

>>534695476
The concept is basically this: You find a nation with a good, 2 recpoint, anyfort holy mage, even better if they're stealthy and/or flying, or can magic phase. You pick an awake rainbow and tank every scale and buy a fuckhuge bless. The rainbow researches you into early buffs so fast that you can expand with exclusively mages, getting 1 new party every turn from the start of the game. You might need to occasionally use a gem for a key buff against harder provinces (like getting sidhe lords to cast regen). Get forts up as soon as you can afford them, which should be pretty quick because your expansion should be strong.

Basically, forget about normal troops and sacred troops, use anyfort holy thugs for everything. Use items and gem spells to build purpose-made counters to enemy compositions. If you have summonable sacreds or enough temples to boost your dom up and get sacred recruitment going or find indie sacreds then that's a bonus. Here's an example using jann emirs.

The biggest problem is actually finishing anyone off because you have to take forts somehow.

>>534698678
Oh and you'll want to kill yourself by like turn 25 with how many mages you have to script or resecript every turn.

There also might be a version of LA Ulm where you make 3 hochmeister expanders every turn and just zerg rush the whole map, but I don't know what bless it would take if it exists.

>>534698678
>forts
Just summon draconians early on and make as many gate cleavers as possible

>>534700041
What bless go best with them?

>>534700041
Didn't somebody try something like this in the dom5 tourney. I remember it had fire shield.

>>534701169
Fear styg regen reinvigoration probably. It's a terrible bless for ulm after like turn 20, but the goal would be to take like 70 provinces year 1 and win on pure economic snowball. Also you'd have to do the mictlan thing of actively not spreading dominion because otherwise sloth will make your forts useless no matter how many you get.

>>534623540
She looks like a cutie patootie

>>534703130
What's special about Styg?

>>534703130
>70 provinces year 1 with a cap only sacred
???

>>534703114
Kind of but IIRC he didn't fully commit to the idea. I think he needed 2 hochmeisters per party or something? Also hellblessing is a lot stronger in 6 because you can buy multiple incarnates from a single path.

>>534703724
Styg gets Hochmiesters to thug level protection without kit. I forget the exact value I think its like 26 prot or something.

>>534704347
Yeah but how is a Hochmeister going to take down a shitton of LA indies without passing out from fatigue

>>534703724
For armored troops with no natprot/earth buffs it's a fuckton of additional prot against indies/mundane troops/pd, and it's extremely cheap to buy it alongside fear on a crone. Yes it gets countered by magical damage, but that's okay if your invulnerable raiders vastly outnumber the opponent's counter-raiders, or if you just come out of year 1 so rich that you can kill people outright with normal troops, mercs, PD dumps and so on.

>>534703772
3 dominion ulm with a bless that lets solo hochmeisters expand is theoretically 3 expansion parties per turn. Once you're making a lot of money you can also buy mercs to add to that.

>>534704991
You don't need to kill indies, you just need to live long enough for them to run away.

>>534705134
>theoretically 3 expansion parties per turn
The problem with that is there's still ground to cover between the front and expansion

The main problem with LA Ulm is that it has absolutely garbage non-sacred troops for the late era

>>534705530
Wouldn't cold be better since you won't get cucked by rivers

Has anyone of you actually won a non-blitz game with a hellbless

>>534705550
This is why I think the multi-expander ulm is kind of a meme for smaller player count games. The bigger you get the more border provinces you have, so your transit isn't going to be that long. In a lower playercount game you just slurp up everything in a 32 move point radius and start trashing player economies by like turn 9. Even then you have to be worried about strong cap only sacreds. Your scaling past the earlygame is too shit otherwise.

The anyfort holy mage thug nations can still get a very strong expansion but have actual midgame/lategame scaling potential because all those mage expanders can site search, research, form mage armies, and so on. They're not useless once you run out of good attack targets, and a nation with 4 or more forts will be making more of them than Ulm can hochmeisters anyway.

>>534705714
Don't think it matters much if anon is actually capable of expanding as fast as he says he is.

>>534705714
My inclination is that cold with winter's gift is a little better but it depends on a lot of stuff like mapgen RNG and what nations are in the game.

Can someone tell me what to do as LA Ulm in the mid game since I have no fucking clue besides getting blood slaves to summon counts

>Helheim invades everyone in the game
>Starts leaving turns unfinished
>Asks for a cease fire, I give it
>They do me like this
Now I get it, why people talk shit about elfs. Prepare your gay little buttholes for bat rape, you pointy eared cocksleeves of Morgoth

>>534708563
Working as intended!

Are movement blesses worth it?

>>534704991
Fire Shield. They kill themselves.

>>534708563
Actually I only invaded Rus, Fomoria, Berytos, and you. Yomi, Abysia, and Muspelheim all attacked me directly so I needed funding.

>>534711635
So Stygian, Fear, and Fire Shield?

>>534711938
This will kill most indies yes.

>>534650525
>>534653487
in vanilla, ermor

How do I script bats/birds for expansion

whole year of playing this game and i still shit the bed whenever i try to play a nation that doesnt have strong mooks. Anytime my main soldiers are unarmored I somehow fuck up instantly and lose them all

>>534708563
Also I don't know why a guy who was stuck at 10 provs on like turn 30 and losing multiple stacks to 1PD is whining about unfinished turns. Why not get better at the game instead of trying to rush people that are doing better?

>>534714306
Well duh, combat is rather lethal in Dominions

>>534714370
Please grasp the English language before attempting to use it little miss esl

>>534715458
>little miss
Kek stormflightbro is that really you?

>>534714162
Scorpions all the way up front, all other non-flying melee units set to Attack, set all flying units to attack rear. The scorpions and fliers will end up contacting the enemy at roughly the same time. Dunno about birbs

>>534715767
haha no but I am pretty sure that he is around. There was a Lanka in World_PEAce that seemed like 'em, anyway

Does dominion spread through cave gateways?

>>534693454
>>534698678
maybe illwinter made vanilla items more expensive than one gem specifically to prevent this kind of strat

>>534716348
>There was a Lanka in World_PEAce that seemed like 'em, anyway
keep the paranoia inside the games ________________kek

>>534698678
This is such a dogshit thug bless though. Fear gets hardstuck against some indy provs and regen for 3hp is way too pricey.

>>534717636
you have three guesses

Are slowing weapons combined with frost mist weapons good on sacred archers?

>>534719664
If you throw in a few levels of the bless that increases their firing range you can really start plinking away

>>534718013
I agree, but not because mass items is even that good of a strategy. It's because the item UI is pure cancer and the more use items see the more complaints Illwinter will get about it.

>>534718761
yes, no, it depends?

>>534716348
Well you're not running stormflight so I guess it checks out.

>>534718579
Jann have fire shield for mindless indies, and awe for non-mindless indies. Regen is basically placeholder and can be traded for any tank/sustain incarnate though, but it's immensely harder to achieve 0 damage intake than it is near-0 damage intake, and regen is very good for the latter.

>>534718761
I can't find anything about it in the manual

>>534719664
Only if your other units have cold res since you want to hit closest to archers to maximize cold cloud effect

>>534707987
Hope you know how to do communions, because DarkUlm is good at communions.

Who the fuck hit const 9 already in mad world?

>>534727510
I think it's from the artificer throne.

>>534728449
o

>mictlan talks shit to me start of game
>goes computer after I invade him
yeah that's right motherfucker take that

>>534728449
>>534728549
What does that do

>>534721059
You can get regen from enchanted blood

>>534729570
It makes the construction 9 stuff "yearn" to be made. A yearning artifact has some kind of discount, half off I think.

>>534729570
>>534731347
Also gives an absolutely massive 20% discount on all item forging in that province.
Boys, it's time to gangbang whoever claimed it.

>>534730881
nta, but is enchanted blood regen even any good without undying?
The only thing I've been thinking of using it for is with undying to basically double the HP of my human sacreds.

>>534731347
Don't you still need Const 9 to make a yearning artifact

>>534705530
Tried this meme.
Bit too vulnerable to Heavy Cav and I realize the lowdom meme starts to feel the pain if you spawn next to some popkill nation.

>>534733175
fucking heavy cav

>>534730881
I think regen is usually better value than enchanted blood on awakes, both because in terms of healing per design point, and because regeneration is affliction resistance. Enchanted blood is an imprison thing.

>>534731924
Yeah still need the research. By the time anyone can make them a bunch will probably be yearning.

>>534734791
>we can get you a heavy discount for your purchases but only if you heavily invest in a very limited market
Did Illwinter get the idea of yearning artifacts from cruise packages and shitcoin rugpulls lol
This would be funny if it wasn't so sad

>>534719664
No

>>534733175
Yeah regen was probably the wrong call on hochs. Without paths they just can't erect enough defensive layers to be worth it, and they don't have much HP in the first place. If cav can break through black plate stygian that easily then forget about barbs. Awe would probably outperform regen against melee, but then you can forget about beating crossbows.

>>534737358
For that matter LA indies might just be too nasty. If you take a bless that can thug into cav and barbs then you won't have a thug that survives crossbows. Just doesn't cut it without paths.

UNFINIFAGGOTS GET THE BXC

>>534627917
>they are as close as family without ever presuming the equality that family implies, and are happy to spend their days brushing hair, pouring tea, dusting and in all ways tending to their morgen mistresses
sounds kinda hot when you put it like that
>tfw you will never receive a pleased smile from a beautiful redheaded elf warrior princess because you made her morning tea just right

Wither Bones

>>534733175
>>534705530
Fear is a meme. Try this instead

>>534748512
>Fateweaving
Huh???

>>534750182
fateweaving makes fireshield do more damage

>>534751534
How?

>>534748512
Why don't you dump magic?

>>534748512
Can you pull this off on a less shit chassis

Gnight domg

>take e6n5 colossal fetish for awake expander, wanting to blitz towards a ~turn 15 motheroak
>it actually expands fantastically until alt3 is researched
>the fucking retard then stops casting flying shards or even just doing a melee, and instead just stands there spamming earth meld, not dealing any damage (and thus never routing the enemy) and eventually just dies after 50+ turns

this is so retarded, why, please man just slap them with your club

In the grimdark forests of ancient Mictlan
there is only war

Do not allow wheel to turn.

>>534788147
Ze veel vill be turned.

>>534783543
Lul

>dom 1 hellbless
Give me a billion dollars but only allow me to withdraw 1 dollar a day.

>>534791435
It's meant for 1 point commanders actually

this a good script for Construction 3 rainbow expander?

>>534797090
No

>>534798002
better?

>>534797090
What paths does it actually have?

>>534800112
good question!
blessing is Larger+Reinv1+BloodS+Berserk+Undying1
early age Rus bless

>>534800695
Body Ethereal > Temper Flesh > Personal Regeneration

>>534800962
and mossbody, ironskin and mistform?

>>534801535
yes, queue all six of them up
its imperative you don't expand until you research all of these and unlock the sixth script slot

>>534801535
Mossbody is shit
You already have natprot
If you have BE you don't need Mistform

>>534804715
physmoss ring any bells faggot?

>>534806265
>Dom5let comment

>>534804715
they trigger on the same roll? Mistform and Ethereal?

>>534804715
Mistform, ethereal, regen, and physres is a good combination. Add fire shield and it can probably solo expand.

>>534808747
Granted this isn't an expansion script.

>>534808747
Mistform + Ethereal = 2 buffs doing the same thing both countered by the same thing

>>534809081
Add Invuln to the list as well. My point is that although they're all doing the same thing, they all do accomplish meaningful hardening against the intended threat. I'm in agreement that BE, Temper Flesh, and Personal Regen are hard to beat in terms of generalist buffs though. I just mean a pretender has the luxury of tailoring a script to the opponent.

The thing I'm more concerned with is >>534800695 that casting encumbrance is very high for a pretender that wants to do a 5 buff script and then go berserk in melee.

Also what about flying shield?

>>534810639
For Y1 expansion you cast whatever you have researched. For vs. players you do Temper Flesh, Soul Vortex, Personal Regeneration and then 2 more buffs based on what you are teleporting into.

is the heart of life a trap?

>>534810639
Flying shield isn't that good because it lets too much burst damage though.

nations that MUST absolutely take an awake expander?

>>534818297
Arco

>>534818297
I believe that all nations should be able to expand with a scales build, to a varying degree of effectiveness.

>>534818297
TC

>>534818776
MA yeah
EA can do a big bless and LA can do Agema spam

>>534676692
My armies don't have iron weapons anyway, as they are fish.

I think you actually played that horrible, tactically and strategically.
You came underground with the big sacred stack, ate 8 mind hunt checks a turn every turn for 6 turns in a row, lost the prophet, probably starved your armies, got your capital and cave entrance sieged, and took a fight I wanted in darkness to my most veteran army with all my big mages in a fort choke point against better research. Seems like I had every advantage and it all was going according to plan!

And then my big mages self buffed until the slaves all died and cast stellar cascade into relief+ reinvig+ blood surge for 50 turns
Womp womp

No improved casting AI

Good fight, good luck! Hope you can pull it out against ermor

I quite like MA Atlantis. I like my "army spam with a dash of actually good mages if you care about that" nations

>>534826809
What do you even spam with for ma Atlantis
None of their infantry is particularly impressive

>>534818889
Aren't scales builds kind of dead in dom6? Pretender scales were nerfed and indies were buffed compared to non-sacred troop count.

>>534836524
Mother Guard and Shambler Guards? Not that different from what you spam with MA C'Tis, only you still get Size 4s on non-Cap forts

Anybody want an EA game or are there too many games going

>>534840325
i want one but make it 'nilla

>>534840938
No

>>534818889
>believe that all nations should be able to expand with a scales build, to a varying degree of effectiveness
If five provinces by turn 12 is "effective" sure.

>>534818297
According to trannycord, any nation thay doesn't have A-tier sacreds needs an awake expander.

>>534840325
I shouldn't because already in 3 games, but my autistic desire to be in a game of each era at once though...

>>534840938
Agree

>>534822562
Agemas aren't armored enough and they lose to big heavy cav provinces. You can lance catch with peltasts or something but then you risk HP route so whaddya whaddya. Between their high-prot, high-def sacred longspears, elephants, elite medium cav and cerulean warriors, you'd think Arco should have easy expansion, but forget it Jake, it's LAtown...

>>534837770
>>534841146
Well, just tried it and I still can get 15 provinces with scales MA Machaka, so there is that anecdotal evidence.

>>534840325
>>534840938
Yes! YES!!!

>>534841146
If you have heavy cav it's alright

>>534841326
>>534843095
>>534840938
samefag

>>534842905
With MA Machaka I'll bet it's easy to do a lot better than that with the right troop choices. Though they'd benefit even more from an awake monster to help clear the cap circle faster.

>>534844294
Is it unthinkable that's there's more than one person that doesn't want to play with weird mods?

>>534844294
Poor anon can't comprehend how others can extract a simple joy of playing pure dominions, sad...

>>534845128
inspect element

>>534845349
samefag

>>534845668
Please stop embarassing yourself.

>>534797090
wtf is a construction 3 rainbow expander

How many turns do you have to spend researching before that thing can expand with its... 35 skinshifters?

>>534846175
inspect element

>>534846550
I already expanded in that game, that was just me asking if I scripted decently for my Dormant Pretender to thug on her own

>turn 4
>misfortune +3 in capital
well, thanks...

>>534849968
Could be worse

A venegeful crone has cursed the thread.

In situations like this, is it worth completely giving up on expansion and just shipping everything to enemy capital?

>>534850918
dont play without full wrapping

>>534850918
bro how are you going to beat nidders turn 1?
LMAO

they will rape you the first 20 turns at least

>>534851052
I get why it's a good idea for MP, but I'm not playing MP and I like it better this way
>>534851326
Fair enough, I am not experienced enough to know these matchups. But in general, would a cap rush be worth it if you can pull it off but sacrifice your expansion for it?

>>534851929
I think you are just raped in that position bro
sorry

>>534851052
How do you play full wrapping without getting nauseous?

>>534852035
I don't have schizophrenia?

>>534852035
Very carefully

>>534852202
>accidentally zoom out
>suddenly you're lost in the multiverse with no idea which one is the real universe where you and all your loved ones live and which ones are mere perfect copies of reality and come down with a massive case of existential dread
No, really, how?

>>534852846
if you truly somehow get lost in oblivion you can always just either press g or shift+3 (#) and type any number and it'll instantly take you to that prov.
g 1 enter, boom, you're back to reality centered on prov #1

>>534854342
Holy shit I just learned this after playign since dom 4

>>534854342
Yes, but that won't unlearn your knowledge of the fickle nature of reality.

>>534851052
East-west wrapping is more aesthetic and closer to reality, though.

>>534856093
Tomorrow when you wake up, start travelling north and don't stop, see where you end up

Piconye... I want to do turn before bed... Please do turn...

>>534856192
"Yes, lets wage war in the frozen wastes. Lets relocate our troops through the south pole."
Statements dreamed by the utterly deranged.

>>534856493
Statements dreamed by the chillest men on earth

>>534856192
>>534856493
To add to this - east-west wraparound is easier made into a true sphere (just make provinces to the south and north progressively wider, with one huge province at the poles that is connected to all provinces in the previous line) than full wraparound.

>>534856829
On a true sphere you can walk in any direction and end up back where you started

With no vertical wraparound you run into an impermeable wall of prismatic void.

>>534857337
But full wraparound is not a sphere - it's a torus.
Give me half an hour, I will give you a mockup of a sphericl map.

>>534857337
>>534857564
BEHOLD
East-west wraparound map that is a sphere.

>>534860148
Noice

dominions 7 will have spherical maps

>>534842905
MA Machaka is lucky in that the spider knights are better than they look. 14 prot mount seems like it'd die fast, but since they web any enemy directly in front of them they essentially aren't attacked.
15 spider knights set to line formation attack rear is a surprisingly good expansion party

>>534860148
STOP DOING CARTOGRAPHY
Hundres of years spent refining sphere projection and yet NO real reason to play a map other than BIDDYN
Wanted to play another one anyway just for kicks? We had a map for that, its called SNERDRYN

>>534868547
Joe Biddyn wake up
Wake up Joe Biddyn

>>534872215
Lemme guess...Jome?

>>534850918
Send your prophet scout into nid to see the land to the south and try to sail there? Otherwise YOLO into them with storm captains and light infantry and hope you can overpower them. Phaeacia is actually pretty good at an early jump on someone, having an island start means you basically have a cap circle's worth of resources on turn 1. Nidhere's are weaker at the start since dominion doesn't start maxed, their best mage is slow recruit, and their troops are just Okay compared to your Colossi.

>>534758357
innate spellcaster

>>534826039
>And then my big mages self buffed until the slaves all died and cast stellar cascade into relief+ reinvig+ blood surge for 50 turns
>Womp womp
Master to slave ratio?

>>534840286
>Shambler Guards
low prot and worse mr, no hats

the coral guard with length 3 coral glaives are cool, but 13 prot and no shields, iffy against archers

c'tis has access to heavy infantry, 16 prot with shields

>>534840286
at least atlantis has more elemental magic for better ability to deal with poisonres enemies

once saw a ma ctis player take mweaps, nice build, worked out great, handled ethereal poisonres enemies

>>534844294
>>534845128
samefag?

>>534878250
Sobeks??

>>534878519
no

>>534625109
was the gemgen autism settled?

>>534625109
wait they nerfed hammer?
FUCKERS

Helheim, oh Helheim..Ducking and dodging away from a fight..Just wait until you discover the other armies that I have on the move. Better keep on running away!

did a doodle

Tfw I reach the Antarctic but an invisible wall set by God stops me going further.
This is why I play North South wraparound, to live out my fantasy.

>>534625109
Smashers are nice to have tho

Gnight domg

>>534893701
Fuck you you nigger elf player

>>534893701
good morning

>>534884237
Hammers aren't gemgens. They're better than gemgens because you can pick what gems they give you every turn.

It's over. It has never been more over than now.

>>534906216
On a related note: how the hell do you kill a greater otherness with human troops? Their elemental resists are a nightmare.

>>534907585
>how the hell do you kill a greater otherness with human troops
you don't
otoh I'd try something like veiled one commanders with moon blades and winged boots
point buff them in the corner and send them in on "attack large monsters"

>>534906216
this concludes the feminism experiment, pack it in ladies

>>534906216
wut how

>>534906216
I have seen enough. R'lyeh is the threat

Ghost Grips

how many feminist witches do you need for a respectable stack? and how fast?
i am stuck with starting army and expansion, but want to get wizarding

>>534915470
Didn't have a counter for othernesses. As soon as they broke through it was over.

>>534907585
They are magic beings. Ench6, opposition, Feminine can easily cast it.

>>534922512
Yes, it exists. However I couldn't get it online fast enough.

>>534891041
Who dis?

>>534926263
Probably a Helheim uma.

MAster-power starting soon?
Also what's the deal with Vanarus/R'lyeh?

>>534922512
Opposition feels so weird to use. Close range at 25, needs S3, and most magic beings have good MR (otherness at 15)

>>534876881
The problem wasn't the ratio( 8 slave mage + star child to 9 star spawn + 2 slave mage)
They all had earth power + reinvig item
The problem was the off script spam of shit like aoe1 ironskin and gift of displacement being non paths for the slaves
If the slaves got spent casting gifts of heavens and illusory army, cool
If they get spent giving random illithids temper armor, not cool!

You should be able to set preferred spells for off script casting

>>534947416
best I can do is cast group barkskin in a flamestorm

>>534892373
Tfw I reach the Antarctic and I appear in the Arctic

Is Eternal Pyre a trap for any nation that isn't H3 in their cap already?

>>534926263
Dis Uma

>>534948205
Just dump it somewhere you don't care about

Piconye... You could have done a double, Piconye...

>>534943816
If you have non-path mixes, you need way better ratios than that.
Also, mixing in some regeneration isn't bad, if you have access to indie nature mages.

>>534907831
That is a good suggestion, though I'd be tempted to suggest putting boots of quickness on them instead if he has a W2 mage, especially since the extra damage against magic beings on moon blades is flat armor-negating damage in Dom6, and with flat damage, you just want as many attacks as possible. And R'lyeh has lots of magic beings, making it a target-rich environment. And quickness is just generally good when the targets have lots of HP and regeneration. Could also put that equipment on tougher thug chassis if available.

>>534922512
>>534922782
Arcane bolts are a bit too weak and small AOE, but is otherwise available with little research.

Did your pretender or another mage have paths for Ether Gate? Alternatively, empower a relevant S4-with-boosters mage in death path, and use Ether Gate and spam ether warriors. Would require 50 death gems, but would probably be worth alchemizing for. And you had Conj6 given Ylerions. Great against R'lyeh with their moon blades.

Why didn't you go for Deceive the Decree of the Lost? They have mweapons and hit hard, and are large, should be great against regenerating, large tramplers. And gives you a use for your glamour gems that might not be easily used effectively against R'lyeh otherwise, unless I am overlooking something.

>>534954983
>Why didn't you go for Deceive the Decree of the Lost?
I actually went for it at first but needed to pivot to some other stuff in the process.

>>534955998
That's fair, research goals have to be adapted to the course of the game, and sometimes one is forced to use mages for things other than research.

>check the 4x steam sale
>dominions in the top sellers
What happened? Are we viral now? Is Dom6 bussin frfr?

>>534957671
>dom6 35% off
>meanwhile dom5 75% off
those sneaky jews are trying to trick people into buying the wrong version
though tbf 35% is actually pretty big for shillwinter

>haven't played since february
>decided I would come back whenever Zemaitia released
>6 months later
......any games recruiting?

>>534960103
I'm waiting for a vanilla game. If there won't be a vanilla game, I will make one myself on friday.

is there an eta on dom7? want to pick this up on sale but don't want to if dom7 will be out in a year

>>534967006
I'll join.

>>534967386
Dom 6 only came out a year ago.

>>534579080 (OP)
who?

>>534967386
my son
dom7 is somewhere between 6 years and never away

>>534971868
Three more years

>>534967386
This barely ever goes on sale and never on a good sale.
Just go for it. I've been playing this shit for 12 years. It pays off.
Also >>534971868

Fucking hate LA R'lyeh players.

>>534960103
>>534967006
>>534967716
>>534840938
>>534840325
!NEW (vanilla) EA GAME RECRUITING NOW!
starting in a week or so when we have a bunch of players.
https://beta.blitzserver.net/game/663#status
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https://beta.blitzserver.net/game/663#status
JOIN IT NOW and fight epic battles and claim thrones and become the pankoman or be forgotten.
as illwinter intended.

>>534981321
Nice, I just need to test a tendie.

>>534981321
What map/other settings

>>534981321
>no better casting AI
Shan't be joining

>>534989825
What about "vanilla" you don't understand, anon?

>>534991709
What I don't understand is why anyone would play a worse version of the game

>>534992097
Less control over your own mages isn't inherently worse. It's just one more thing to consider. Do you see people complaining that troops disregard their scripting too as soon as their first target fails morale?

>>534989825
We need a vanilla game to establish a control variable as a periodic reminder as to how shit balance wise the base game is

>>534992097
The mod is gay and doesn't work. Fuck BasedTactics.

>>534995353
Casting AI actually ruins elf PD because instead of an OP 1 PD holy mage that casts buffs until enemies run into melee you get a dogshit 1PD holy mage that casts warrior illusion and passes out before enemies run into melee.

>>534891041
Based drawanon

>>535002606
>the fat titted brat is at the top of the hall of fame
She can't stop winning!

>>534888860
About time you showed up, I thought you were the one running away.

>>535002606
I can't believe vodka is fucking dead

>>535003516
It wouldn't be the Deadliest Derby without her.

>>535002606
VODKA NOOOOOOOO

Glue to Glue

>>535007891
Ass(assin) to Ass(assin)

Gnight domg

>>534971868
stop being negative

Does anyone have that post of music recs for each nation?
Found a good one for the Indian nations
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_-e5yzfjRkQ&ab_channel=PaulRuskay-Topic

>>535011934
Nactions for this feel?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UtNPFSz9-5c&list=RDUtNPFSz9-5c

>>535011632
no, he's right
hollerin' bout the front rent, be lucky to get any back rent
(ain't gonna get none of it)

>>535017603
Use the axe

>>535016208
TNN definitely

LA Zemaitia SOON™
LA Machaka SOON™
LA Oceania SOON™
LA Oman SOON™

>>535021912
>LA Oceania SOON™
have anyone asked for this?

>>534618362
I'm down. What era?

>>535022432
But what if it's good and/or comes with changes to EA and MA?

>>535021912
>even the copium crew doesn't have room for crannog ys

all i need is another marverni
crannog ys? more like crammog ys dick in your ass
i need more pigs in this fucking game

>>535031694
Better Together

>>535031915
Now draw them kissing.

>>534992553
I disagree, it is inherently worse

>>535032306
merrow are -not- for kissing!

>>535031694
The jump to Marignon is indeed a bit drastic, I agree

>>535037402
Ys has a bit of Marverni, though.

>>535039574
For those who care, Ys is the breton equivalent of Atlantis : a legendary city that one day sunk under the waves due to the king's daughter being a whore

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ys

>>535032306
NO

>>534988138
randomly generated.
one level 2 throne for each player, 50% +1 required to win.

>>534989825
you do realise they cast off-script spells when your scripted spells dont have any targets within range, right.

>>535021912
MA mongols when?

>>535041389
Maybe use all levels for a True Vanilla Experience (tm)?

>>535041574
when illwinter decides to return to making dominions nations and also decides to stop making nations based on european myth

(haha)

>>535041574
LA Trollheim when?

>>535021912
Reminder that a dwarf nation exists and is named in the Troll King's lore blurb (Nidavellir)
>>535022432
I did, I like EA Oceania.

>>535044345
this is the sort of sugesstion you'd make if TVE was a novelty to you, but authentic TVE autists use orthodox, standard throne settings for obvious reasons

so what's with MAster-power? haven't seen it shilled much and already 19 players

>>535036720
Ys has fallen
Merrilions must kiss

>>535039905
>a legendary city that one day sunk under the waves due to the king's daughter being a whore
Many such cases

>>535051201
discord game

>>535039905
I want Lyonesse now

Banefire

After playing a couple of games I have to ask - are archer type troops even a thing in this game? Anytime I make them, I feel like I've wasted gold and should have made more meelee troops instead

>>535069435
Yeah, xbows and longbows still fuck shit up

>>535069435
Archers, especially crossbows, are very good and are often the strongest mundane units in a nation's roster. I'll go over a couple of valuable use cases.

Crossbows have a degree of inherent AP, which makes them capable of injuring units that normal infantry really struggles to. They can absolutely shred lines up close.
Unlike most weapon buffs, archers have several really easy to access damage buffs that they can take, including things like flaming or serpent fang arrows.
Archers which are also good melee combatants (the Dai-Bakemono archer is a great example) are especially powerful as can be ordered to fire, letting you get a full buff script off on them and go even further as they'll stay there until they run out of ammo.

Broadly, archers are good, you just want to mass and buff them. Their best use is adding a lot of killing power to an army which already has a tough line holder, usually your sacred.

>>535069435
to add to the other poster, the paths with archer buffs are air, earth, fire and nature, spread across several schools of research. archers typically benefit from strength buffs, albeit with proportionally less damage added than typical melee weapons

This game is shaping up nicely, don'tiss out

https://beta.blitzserver.net/game/663#status
https://beta.blitzserver.net/game/663#status

>>535077752
>air
That's another thing. The precision buffs from air feel weird when air mages want Storm up, no?

are sacred archers with frost mist weapons a meme on caelum?

>>535078230
I'll join when I decide what nation to pick

>>535079750
It doesn't work. Stop trying to make it work.

>so called vanilla game
>no black servant

>>535079749
dominions 6 actually added a new spell for that, wind guide

>come home
>no vanilla or cracked turn
cmon

>sacred archers
name one way to make em work

>>535086069
They're fine on chassis that can already melee hard like Wardens and Ancestor Vessels

>>535086429
>they're fine when they're not archers
very cool but not what he asked

>>535086069
Thunder weapons

>>535029754
Not copium... Well being soon is the copium.

>>535041574
Tartaria is in DE

>>535086069
unholy weapons?

>>535087326
is there any sacred archer nation that is hellblessbait?

>>535087630
Ind

>>535087630
*isn't

>>535086069
mweap, magic arrows are good against some nations like ubar

>>535087875
la t'ien ch'i?

>>535086901
DE is troon-coded

>>535089905
You can just call it Reddit since it was literally remade by a Redditor

Hand of Death

Sorry Femine, but your lackluster response to R'lyeh led to this

>>535109032
UUUUUUUUUUUULM!!!!!!!

are there any tips that anyone can give for EA Pyrene?
Cavemen Unga Bunga sucks without fire arrows, and Mairu Champions are the only good thug. E1W1 shamans suck and good luck trying to get a forest province

Not a squid neighbor but has R'lyeh really become that much of a problem? Isn't Atlantis in this game?

>>535112441
Yeah

>>535031694
They should have a potion national item that gives Invul + Strength.

>>535113092
Popeye the sailor man ass nation

>>535111948
Summon elementals

>>535114801
More of a small village of indomitable Gauls nation.

Are any of Mari's angel summons worth it

>>535118593
Only against undead

>>535118593
The Harbinger and Seraph defintely
Everything else is eh

>>535120365
if anything they force your opponent to think 'damn he's got flying 18prot awe having magic weapon assholes that can dive my backline' and plan for it

>>535120616
They're casters, silly

>>535120616
Awe doesn't really help flying flankers because they're just going to get blasted by mages back there anyway.

how do you manage to failspand with MA Pan?
the only explanation I can think of is greed

>>535121732
I mostly meant these guys
>>535123130
They've got resists and great MR
Really gotta make sure those mages have incinerate, blood poisoning, frozen heart etc scripted or they'll likely shrug off whatever tries to blast them

>>535112441
Atlantis took a beating earlier from Feminie and Vaetiheim. But yes Ryleh has Thaum6 for ritual assassination.

>>535111948
storm flight on your witches, storm flight on your national item, perpetual storm the world and spam earthquake against any army you want to nuke

>>535124095
Oh those guys are good but >7 pearls

>>535124095
5FR and 18 prot is good enough against most fire and cold magic, but lightning bolt can still kill them through 5SR, leech kills them, drain life kills them, imagined death kills them, random magic projectiles bonking them on the head kills them, etc. Magic is pretty lethal in close quarters.

>>535127081
Granted this is heavily bless dependent. If you have like undying enchanted blood or somthing then they're really sturdy.

>>535124095
depends on your bless. they're expensive, have low health and no helmets. 5 sr is not a lot

should be excellent bodyguards

undying + enchanted blood + pr + sr + cr, enchant with air shield, then script them to hold and attack closest and let them fight in your frontlines. though they might be vulnerable to crossbows and magic weapon bows, a magic arrow that randomly bypasses the shield and hits the head could kill

counterunits against wraith lords empowered in air, tarts, vampires, demon nations, etc.

but using them as bodyguards in the backline may be easiest

>>535118663
and demons

>>535124095
7 gems for these are not worth it, because you waste mage turn and gems for a single summon. If you can cast the higher level one for 50 gems, a 4F commander and 6 of these, then sure, it's worth it. Harbingers are good thugs and are relatively cheap for only 25 gems.

>>535118593
harbingers are also chorus masters, could try to do flying communion memes with them, flying from province to province

""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""better"""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""" casting AI

GG Muspelheim

awww can't download maps from the blitzserver site

>>535132438
that was quite a bloodletting
but i think with better casting ai my monolith would not have cast mistform against warrior illusions every other turn

>>535137050
SCBM includes some version of better casting AI, so it's actually puzzling that it was casting mistform at all, because that mod's main feature is deprioritizing buff spells. I'm still baffled by why my pretender refused to cast any damage whatsoever. Shatter, bane fire bolts (scaled up to 35 AP), lightning bolt, and visions of death were all available. There's probably some HP to CC priority formula that the monolith's 400 HP broke in half.

>>535124095
They have good stats, great gear, 18 morale, 17 MR, 18 prot (from invulnerable) and also 23 armor, a magic weapon, fire and shock resist, and awe. Definitely build up at least 5-10 of them to harry the enemy in the late game, unless (hiding a laugh) your faction has a stronger flying unit.

>>535123776
>get somewhat or really unlucky early
>expansion power is suddenly weaker than in testing
>fail to adjust by expanding more conservatively or try to catch up by taking more risks
>creates a failure spiral
>go AI

>>535142351
I'm pretty sure summoning one angel and divine naming it is better than single-summoning 5 angels. 7 pearls is just too expensive for a normal unit that dies to a slightly high rolled crossbow bolt to the head.

>>535142351
Also I should point out that their holy firebrands check resist before multiplying damage, hence they actually get chaffed out by imps.

>>535143173
That is a very unique situation and if you let them fight alone against an army of imps you are a retard, which I detect you are from making such a stupid post

>>535143461
Damn, crabby much? I mainly brought it up because it's so silly thematically. They're fliers so yeah, landing them on the thing you want is easy and their sword alone is worth 7 pearls (though you can't recover it if they die). They're not really massworthy because they die too easily when their defenses get pierced, but they're good specialist units and I like that they can be turned into flying holy thugs.

>>535144091
Their holy firebrand effect is the least impressive part of their build to me it is is a very stilted setup to bring up. Furthermore they are sacred and can also take on whatever bless their summoner's pretendie has already going on so basically you still are a retard

>>535142420
three explanations

skill issue

host cheated

both

good morning, sirs

>>535142994
17 hp, sacred, no magic paths, and mari has other options

>>535087732
ind tendie

great black bull
bless is recuperation, unholy weapons
bull is for expanding, unholy weapons is against being hellblessrushed, recuperation is for mind hunters
b7 for easier access to national ritual is also an option

just don't mix your archers and tendie

>>535112441
Feminie here. Atlantis refused to attack squids when I asked, and as soon as I attacked Atlantis squids attacked me.

>>535154916
ind has arels with healing, bull has built in recuperation, could replace recuperation with something else or dump nature for scales

NO WHEEL TURNING

11 people and counting, could this be the next BIG GAME? Only if you join

>>535143173
Lame

>>535163884
I am indeed a foolish human and forgot the link. Get in here

https://beta.blitzserver.net/game/663#status
https://beta.blitzserver.net/game/663#status

>>535151268
I'd rather chill with markatas desu

Pyth, do your cracked Turn

>>535164007
this time I am gonna join as well

Well, Agartha has joinned. Agartha might not win, because Agatha is new, but Agartha will try to make Abysia question life choices.

>>535172094
I'm with you, fuck Abysia

>>535164007
>no slop
pass

are there any mods to make the AI smarter? im too casual to play any multiplayer dom. also conquest of elysium is good

>>535174238
I am with you on the lack of pretender Recuperation, but I don't care about anything else missing

>>535145240
>surely someone would never deploy effective tech 1 chaff against my super special ultra elite unit
It's okay bro, your glorified flying Wights has counters. No need to have an aneurysm.

>>535181612
NTA, but wights have helmets and higher protection against magical damage.

>>535183397
Wights even have more HP. Worse in other ways, sure, but not that shabby.

>>535174520
There's a mod that at least gives them better pretenders IIRC

>>535078230
>https://beta.blitzserver.net/game/663#status

Will join on Saturday/Sunday, please dont start yet

>>535078230
>https://beta.blitzserver.net/game/663#status

Will join on Saturday/Sunday, please dont start yet

>>535163884
Silly elf

>>535191587
this will be big game

>>535193626
thriving vanilla, you love to see it

>>535155198
unholy weapons and enchanted blood to prevent big black bull from bleeding to death during expansion

you know... awareness bless is not a bad choice for sacred giants, Ancient Ones especially

>>535195478
i know unholy is good for archers, but best Ind weapon bless seems like Vampiric Weapons to me. Covers both HP and FP, though it is VERY expensive, if you pretender has ambidexterous you should try and go for it

>>535196240
t. Asura knower

>>535196240
>>535197772
that's cool and all, but awake asura with vampiric weapons = poor scales

>>535200572
this is the best you can do with an Asura with minimal damage to scales (if you also want Undying, without it, no Air, but 1 Production)

>>535203947
not sure i'm reading that right, asura always has air

>>535204898
yeah, I mean you stay at 1 Air, no boost

>>535203947
>>535205214
Just take 2 sun. You have F on your mages, and so you are weaker in cold provinces. It interferes with HFH as well. It's a rule of thumb that you just go all in on one side of the temp scale because it's either you want heat for your F mages, or you want cold for W mages. And get that 2 Luck at least because statistically Luck/Misf 1 does nothing, and many good events want Luck 2.

>>535210239
What about additional fatigue and population dying every summer?

>>535210239
that was just an example of VW Asura with minimal scale damage. Normally yeah, you try and shoot for Luck 2

Awaken Sleeper

>>535203947
>>535205214
i really don't like the income and rp loss. is the bless useful for anything but the tendie? summons maybe?

>>535227102
>rp loss

>>535203947
>Ind is based off the mystical land of Christendom founded by Prester John
>Can pick a literal demon to run it

What did illwinter mean by this?

>>535166497
DO NOT REDEEM THE WHEEL

>>535239402
I mean it's the same for MA Mari

I just want to take a moment to acknowledge that Sombre is a big fat faggot

AND, he smells like farts and likes to smell them (he's gross)

>>535242287
Most huge warhammer fans are

>>535172094
>>535174113
Abysia reporting in. I'm new I already question life choices
I look forward to being domkilled by tvrn 10

>>535242287
what did he do now

>>535242287
I FUCKING HATE SOMBRE
I FUCKING HATE SOMBRE
I FUCKING HATE SOMBRE

>>535248594
He's too retarded to know why things are weak than good

>>535247363
Don't worry Abysia, The Xibalban Kings will cover your rear. We just joined!

Glamour is the biggest meme path in the game.

>>535254530
Why? It's pretty much even easier to find that nature.

>>535254530
No you just suck at the game you whiny little bitch

>>535227421
research point i meant, piconye scholars and sacred abbot sages for instance are decent researchers, but -1 rp makes them ~11.111% worse researchers, which combines with substantially less income to make research even worse. and outside lightless lanterns, research boosters can be awkward to mass produce, nature rp booster for instance requires n2 to forge, no rp air booster access, no glamour rp booster access, death rp booster requires d2 and you get death mages from mountains

>>535254530
Early game yes but mid-late it gets good

>>535254530
smith mages with smith and forge abilities have almost no glamour and no blood

are smith mages the most honest mages in dom6?

some smith mages have glamour as a random pick, could mass produce dreamstones with them at just construction 5, though you need a lot of glamour mages that can dream to hold the boosters

i haven't played here since dom5. are games mostly the same? i remember there being a big problem with people going AI a lot. i like anonymous games and no discord diplo but people going AI kinda got old

>>535258965
Troll King and Dwarf Smiths both have glamour access

>>535261426
no, human nature completely changed whole you were away, people are now willing to waste days of their time playing a game they already lost a week ago.

>>535261426
Thing is that anons tend to play the same nations and post and act the same way over multiple games, so if they go AI early we just end up mocking them later constantly

VICTORIOUS SHINUYAMA

>>535261508
troll king is summon, dwarf smiths have it as a random pick. and no forge discount attribute on them

>>535264010
Fair but earth is an easy path to get i guess

>>535266025
true, and with e2 and boots slot/master smith, or e3, dwarven hammers are easy to craft

>>535266403
just that the more discounts on 5-gem items one can get, the way better it is, since the discount is flat instead of percentage points or multiplied percantages

dwarven hammer from 5 to 3 gems is 40% discount

fixed forge bonus of 2 from 5 to 3 gems is 40% discount

if a mage has fixed forge bonus of 2, and is given a hammer, from 3 gems to 1 gem is 66% discount

>>535261426
IMO It's a lot better than some of the points during 5's lifetime. I still remember a game where half of the players chained AI'd because one guy didn't like that it was 48 hour turns.

>>535257604
>no rp air booster access
>no air rp booster access

>>535256520
>>535257736
Glamour has painfully non-versatile combat magic and, despite that, has the smallest ritual pool in the game, and in general pretty poor support options. Maybe having a 5 gem research booster automatically disqualifies a path from being bad, but in terms of actual features it feels like half a path (because de facto that's pretty much what it is). Lategame it's okayish because MR checks and luck are good to have lategame against heavily buffed doomstacks. I don't think I agree with it being good midgame, illusory army is overrated and mindless combat summons are everywhere in that stage of the game.

>>535256941
I'm genuinely curious which path you think is weaker.

>>535252570
Of course, Simpbre only plays sp

>>535266806
Flat discounts are multiplicative when you look at it from a cost efficiency perspective. You multiply 60% item cost of forge bonus 2 with the 33.3% item cost of forge bonus2+2 to get a total item cost of 20%. In other words, stacking forge bonus results in exponentially increasing gem efficiency.

The practical effects of this can be observed just by comparing making 2 3 cost items vs making 1 1 cost item. You save 4 gems either way, but the input cost of the former is 6 times as high, and twice as many turns. This is why you can basically never run out of reasons or resources to hammer forge 1 cost items, but can potentially consider just not having a 3 gem item be worth forging (unlikely when RP boosters exist but maybe you made too many hammers or something).

>>535270549
>Flat discounts are multiplicative when you look at it from a cost efficiency perspective. You multiply 60% item cost of forge bonus 2 with the 33.3% item cost of forge bonus2+2 to get a total item cost of 20%. In other words, stacking forge bonus results in exponentially increasing gem efficiency.
wrong, consider for instance if discounts could make the cost go down to zero, that would be better than exponential. 0 cost is an infinite improvement of cost relative to 1 or more cost

>>535270963
Yeah exponential was semantically incorrect, I should have just said recursively increasing item efficiency instead. Each stacked forge bonus cuts input cost which gets you closer to infinite scalability as it approaches 0 (but caps at 1).

>>535270963
My statement, however, that flat discounts are multiplicative of efficiency is still true.

>>535272370
>>535272661
i fixed one mistake of yours, i'm not going to bother caring about other claims you make, you don't have credibility

>>535272872
You made a false statement and then seetheposted when I politely pointed out that you're being a pedant. Nice try, buddy.

>>535272973
yet i didn't make any mistakes, and you are straight up lying a lot now. at least you admitted to one of your fuckups

>>535263505
I never play the same nation twice in months for variety. Except for maybe blitz. Especially if i won.

>>535273356
>>Flat discounts are multiplicative when you look at it from a cost efficiency perspective. You multiply 60% item cost of forge bonus 2 with the 33.3% item cost of forge bonus2+2 to get a total item cost of 20%.
>wrong
Both the first quoted sentences are observably, mathematically true, you're welcome to try to prove otherwise. Otherwise you're at best disingenuous, at worst a liar. Your belligerent attitude so far isn't exactly displaying good faith in your posts either, you know. Who are you trying to convince?

Also if you're going to feed my posts into chatGPT then please ask it punctuate your posts while you're at it.

>>535273758
>>535273904
i see, you're a triggered, incompetent, lying, deceitful faggot that knows that i'm right. you already admitted to being wrong about one point though >>535272370

>>535274108
I accept your concession. I also think you should know that adults who avoid punctuation online come across as pedophiles.

>>535267602
>Awe, Dread, Wailling winds, Bewilderment, Blur/Displace
>A cheaper, easier to access version of darkness that's available at Alt5, for which all your summons in and out of combat has true sight
>No army support
It's a superior thug path and can support thugging by itself with little equipment investments. Give a summoned Prince a brand and it's ready to go out and raid with stealth. It's also an anti-thug /SC path with how easy you can overload units with false damage and fatigue damage from elf shots and sprite summons. I don't know about you but undead summons is not a thing outside of specific nations that you have to account for, same with statue spam.

>>535274359
more lies, incompetence, faggotry and schizophrenia from you
i wonder what triggered you, faggot
you know that i'm right. you already admitted to being wrong about one point in >>535272370

Naba is the most fun nation in the game and it isn't even close.

>>535274519
>I don't know about you but undead summons is not a thing outside of specific nations that you have to account for, same with statue spam.
nta, but there are also elementals

>>535274519
I use plenty of mindless summons, but I also really like illusion warriors so :^)

>>535274519
>countered by mindless, countered by mindless, countered by mindless, countered by mindless, countered by true/spirit sight, which most mindless units have
I do think the buffs are pretty cool despite their downfalls though. Only Dance of Ephemeral Swords sucks ass.
>A cheaper, easier to access version of darkness that's available at Alt5, for which all your summons in and out of combat has true sight
I actually hate nightfall. The only G summons that have dark vision are the cave kobold line, which aren't statted for melee to begin with, and most G nations don't have good dark vision troop access. I almost consider the spell a G nation counter, because the opponent can cast it to turn off Twilight. Sure your illusions have spirit sight, but so does almost every combat summon, and illusions lose to most combat summons.

>>535275512
Imagine turning into this kind of seething mess because someone said hammers are good. Find a better hobby.

how 2 frorge???

>>535277039
more schizophrenia, lies and incompetence from you, the faggot

you are clearly trolling at this point

you know that i'm right. you already admitted to being wrong about one point in >>535272370

>>535278290
Druggie hours on /domg/ I see

>>535278381
is that yourself you're talking about? because the only deranged, lying schizophrenic here is you

cease trolling, faggot

you know that i'm right. you already admitted to being wrong about one point in >>535272370

>>535278502
Mental toddler

>>535278640
are you a woman (male) or woman (female)?

your dishonesty, schizophrenia and faggotry is off the scales, please kill yourself

>>535278820
Mental as in mentally retarded toddler, btw

Did /domg/ have a thread schizo or is this just some newfag larping as one?

>>535278952
schizophrenic, deceitful, incompetent whore, please kill yourself instead of trolling

you know that i'm right. you already admitted to being wrong about one point in >>535272370

>>535279258
i have no idea. >>535278952 is obviously completely insane, or a dedicated troll, or both

this dude types like a jeet
I bet he's the little miss obsessed schizo, no way we have two different jeet schizos

>>535279652
flamebaiting, retarded schizo, are you trying to portray your obsessive schizophrenia as normal? the only schizo here is (you). take meds and stop trolling the thread, or kys

>>535279528
Here you go little buddy, fill out another captcha to show people how well adjusted you are.

>>535279652
I haven't seen stormflight guy spam before. Hell, I'm pretty sure half the little miss obsessed posts are just from imitators these days.

>>535280218
>>535280565
your schizophrenic, obsessive trolling started here, whore >>535272973 . stop denying facts and lying all the time, or kys

>>535280565
>obsessive replying and repetitive insults, accusing the anon he's arguing with and anyone else who butts in of being the same person
this is literally what stormflightschizo does, anon

>>535280565
>>535283142
>>obsessive replying and repetitive insults, accusing the anon he's arguing with and anyone else who butts in of being the same person
>this is literally what stormflightschizo does, anon
that's exactly what a samefag would write, though
and the only schizophrenic here is you. stop lying and trolling the thread, or kys

>>535276923
Anything that hinders melee and projectile serves to lock the frontline and allow you to keep spamming spells into the blob of troops in front, even if your side doesn't have darkvision. All the fey line troops have spirit sight. The fantasmal stuff (which arguably you shouldn't summon over illusory army) have it too. if you know that the chaffs that make up the bulk of an army has undead, constructs or elemental spam, you shouldn't be fighting those heads up with glamour shit anyways and if you do that's just skill issue.

>>535276923
>>535283725
So arguably, my opinion is that glamour is a really strong path, but the stupid thing is that you have to research so many schools of magic just to make use of its full potential. The good summons are in Conj at high levels, the good buffs are in Alt and Ench, the damage shit is in Evo, the gem gen and luck is in Thaum. It's like a schizo path that can't focus on its strength. With Fire you know you can just go evo, ench and get what you came for. Death is Ench5 rush meme. Astral is Alt3 max then soul slay for immediate results. Fucking blood is more coherent. At least it's not Water though.

>>535283725
>All the fey line troops have spirit sight.
they generally have true sight, not spirit sight
twilight spell is negated by either 100 darkvision, true sight or spirit sight
twilight spell followed by nightfall spell is negated by 100 darkvision or spirit sight, not true sight by itself
twilight is weird, nightfall is just half-darkness

>>535277930
What era?

>>535283725
>The fantasmal stuff (which arguably you shouldn't summon over illusory army) have it too.
for whatever reason, phantasms have true sight, illusions have spirit sight

>>535284235
>The good summons are in Conj at high levels, the good buffs are in Alt and Ench, the damage shit is in Evo, the gem gen and luck is in Thaum.
Witless fool thinks that this is exclusive to Glamour

>>535286782
i can see some of what he means, since some types of glamour spells are more often hard-countered than most other paths

for damage-dealing spells:
glamour: lots of mindless units that everyone can access, providing full immunity, hard-countering glamour evos. mr helps a lot. on the other hand, false damage regen is rare and limited
fire, air: there are fewer >=25fr / >=15sr units than there are mindless units immune to false damage, and 50 fr/sr is needed for full immunity
death: some spells only affect living or dead, but some spells kill anything mr-negates, and even some that always deal damage
astral: variety of spells like death has, such as soul slay, star fires, etc.
earth: physical damage
nature: some physical damage

if all glamour evos do false damage, then there isn't much recourse against mindless enemies. nature has for instance physical spells against poison immune enemies as a recourse

for glamour evo summons:
1 hp and only 25pr and no prot, dies to aoe magic damage

conjurations:
glamour has false damage summons (ignoring crosspaths), easily hard-countered

alteration: great defensive, but no offensive spells

enchantment: some useful stuff, both offensive and defensive

thaumaturgy has charm, luck and other good stuff. honestly a great path for glamour

all in all, glamour is really lopsided and unreliable for dealing damage, since glamour evos and glamour summons that aren't crosspath has few or no damage types outside false damage, and false damage is hard-countered by a lot of broadly accessible units across nations. defensive buffs, on the other hand, is great for glamour, and glamour has specialty spells like charm. and the nature crosspath gives a lot of mileage. glamour can deal a lot of damage in the best cases, and can defeat regen, but the worse cases for dealing damage can come up frequently and early in the game. other paths are mostly more reliable for handling worse cases for dealing damage

>>535286782
>>535289726
glamour is not great for relying on always being able to deal damage against any enemy, but blocking, defensive buffs, thugs, and specialty spells like charm, are available. and can defeat some types of enemies that don't employ proper counters

outside of thugs, glamour is probably best used together with other paths. i don't think we'll ever see a nation focused primarily on glamour like ea abysia is focused mostly on fire, since it probably wouldn't work well in practice

>False Damage
>Does it Affect the Mindless?
>No; not unless the target is an Illusion (a false entity).

Man and Vaetti do your fucking turns

>>535277930
just do it

I keep telling you people that a line of horse archers running to the rear is a death sentence. Ragha and Jomon knows.

What possessed the dev to create Conquest of Elysium alongside Dominions?

>>535303337
CoE came first

>>535303878
So why does he keep both going at the same time? Don't they fill the same general niche?

>>535304290
they both make $$$

>>535304290
No they're different. One is about murder hoboing MoM style and the other is about playing Fantasy Risk/Warhammer Tabletop autobattler

>>535303130
He might have lost his entire army, but at least his name isn't Feng Po-po.

Why is Phantasmal Knight conj 7? Doesn't seem nearly good enough to be so high.

>>535284235
G has massive problems with weakness overlap and doesn't have buffs that compensate for it, meaning whether it has good tools or not, it's very easy for other players to deploy countermeasures against it. That's a pretty fatal flaw in a strategy game. It's out of combat utility is among the worst in the game, Fay knights/princes scale pretty poorly into middle and late age because their prot stays the same while the weapons in the age get better. G's "schizophrenic research" is, in my opinion, a symptom of a bigger issue where G's shit is simply overcosted in general. I do not consider Phantasmal army so much better than Swarm that it should be both an entire path and an entire research level higher. Ghost Wolves is not a path and a research level better than Raise Skeletons. Ephemeral Blast is not an entire path better than Breath of the Dragon. Phantasms should be a research level cheaper and their attacks should be Hard to Negate or work on Mindless or something. So on and so forth. It's like the path assumes you have Twilight up in every single battle as a baseline, but failed to account for the opportunity cost involved and also the fact that the opponent can just turn off twilight with nighfall and break all your mage scripting in the process.

>>535285301
>phantasms have true sight, illusions have spirit sight
I didn't even realize this. So you have chaff summons that can't have Luck cast on them because of Spiritform, and you have less chaffy summons that can't see in your own battlefield wide spell. This kind of shit makes me wonder if Sombre personally designed the summon line. People really underestimate how much this kind of janky anti-synergy brings down a path compared to having a plan that "just works" like darkness+rigor+skellyspam. They priced Nightfall like it was just "cheaper darkness" not noticing the fact that almost none of glamour's shit is actually good in darkness.

>>535289726
>1 hp and only 25pr and no prot, dies to aoe magic damage
What's actually far worse than evos is illusions being mass erased by mechanics like fire shield, repel (especially magic weapon repel), and overcharge. One corpse construct is like a bug zapper sucking in a dozen illusions every turn it stays alive, and keeping it alive is pretty easy because it has high HP and doesn't have spiritform. Warrior illusions suck ass against a prepared player.

>>535290372
>i don't think we'll ever see a nation focused primarily on glamour like ea abysia is focused mostly on fire, since it probably wouldn't work well in practice
TNN and Eriu might be bad, but let's not pretend they don't exist.

>>535315717
High evos are even worse. Put up fire storm and illusions don't live for more than a turn or two ever.

>>535314513
>I didn't even realize this.
How about this, the Phantasmal Knight's sword is length 0 for no reason.

>>535314513
>the fact that the opponent can just turn off twilight with nighfall and break all your mage scripting in the process.
The glamour required to actually cast these is pretty rare. A G3, or G2 with 2 gems. Honestly on elf nations glamour is 100% a 'side' path for buffing.

I kind of want to try a glamour based build in MA Machaka because -every- caster in their lineup has at least G1, and can easily get to G2 with twilight. I just wish their mages were a bit hardier. Like, sure you can send in 3 sorcerers with multiple buffs and dread masks to clear a barb camp, but by then it's already turn 12 and your expansion should be over at this point.
Maybe just try my damndest to rush Thaum7 and absolutely spam the everlovingfuck out of Charm.

>>535284235
Glamour is a utility path like nature or astral

>>535284972
MA

>>535277930
Apply hammer

>>535320507
Twilight is relatively easy to path boost into because you can just use a veil and a spool to cast it for 1 gem on a G1 mage in every battle. The problem is that it is every bit as easy to set up a nightfall caster to turn off your twilight in a single turn every battle.

>long day at work
>nice shower
>dinner's ready
>blitzserver is up
>dominions time
>go grab a drink
>blitzserver is down

>>535314513
>I didn't even realize this. So you have chaff summons that can't have Luck cast on them because of Spiritform, and you have less chaffy summons that can't see in your own battlefield wide spell. This kind of shit makes me wonder if Sombre personally designed the summon line. People really underestimate how much this kind of janky anti-synergy brings down a path compared to having a plan that "just works" like darkness+rigor+skellyspam. They priced Nightfall like it was just "cheaper darkness" not noticing the fact that almost none of glamour's shit is actually good in darkness.

>>535186613
Is it the 'Commuinity Memes' mod, or is there something different? I considered that one, but from the comments, it sounded like they also added pretenders that were actively harmful to the AI

>>535329991
just cast twilight as your 5th spell script :)

>>535331656
Kek. Admittedly, that is one solution. However, the opponent can just have their nightfall caster(s) do twilight->nightfall and block you from getting twilight anyway.

>>535331858
this shit should not happen

>>535332715
t. person who thought mis1 was free points
>>535332089
do spells like firestorm or solarbrilliance completely negate the darkness spells?
ie if they did script twilight -> nightfall, but you scripted (hold) (hold) (hold) solar brilliance -> twilight would that be a potential solution? Though I don't know any nations that have S and G magic at those levels.

>>535331858
:)

>>535333376
Patala does.

>>535333376
Any nation with S and G has it at those levels because of communions

Sorgina
https://files.catbox.moe/0ymzsu.jpg

>>535290372
I'm pretty sure sidhe lords are net frailer in dom 6 because g2 buffs are worse than mistform/air shield/lightning protection. They get a free vine shield now from Shroud but they also just die to 10 strength shortbows.

How does EA ermor have a reputation for the "best human troops in EA"? I think somebody is getting their troops mixed up with pythium's, or they have gotten nerfed from prior versions. Principes are worse than Marverni nobles, ulmies, fir bolg, rusians, myrmidons. Even the Berytian elite soldier has better stats for the same gold. Principes actually seems a bit overcosted for his mediocre stats.

I hope rEAd doesn’t start too early, I don’t have a computer where I am at and I am not about to abandon grandma for a videogame

>>535345127
>I am not about to abandon grandma for a videogame
fucking casual

>>535345127
introduce grandma to dominions

>>535345276
Now why did you have to go and make me all teary eyed? Grandma used to do word puzzles, she used to tend to the garden, she used to walk up stairs to go play mahjong and solitaire on the computer! Grandma doesn’t do that anymore. Grandma also doesn’t read english

>>535345127
how about monday?

>>535346136
Yeah I am fine with that.
Question! If I, on another computer, reconnect to the blitz server and type in my pretender password I can still play my turn, no? I am assuming that’s specifically why passwords exist. Because anyone can play as any pretender present in a multiplayer game?

>>535346921
yeah

>>535346921
Correct

>>535342510
Shields are really good

Anyone tried out the Conflux nations mod? Lots of really powerful stuff there, lots of weird and semi-broken stuff too, like events scripts due to insanely large scales. But it does have a nation based on the Illusionist hero from CoE and the whole thing is honestly pretty neat. You get illusory giants that are actually just humans with a strength buff cast on them and everyone is glamored in Dominion. Lots of unique upgraded illusionary warriors spells based on Mirrors like in the original game. Can’t really recommend the other nations, they are a bit too extreme, but they all seem fun to play with

>>535350263
We had a game in 5 which I enjoyed until the angels/holy whatever started rolling and our cowardly domg veterans just went AI in their path
I'd love to do a new one

>>535350263
My favorite from that mod is Dur-Halam or whatever it's called, the meteor guys. The sacred hammer throwers are hilarious.

>>535350597
Yeah the Archons, right? An interesting idea. Affliction resistance and Chud-like stats instead of Recuperation and Bognarus-like mass naked sacreds (only these guys can hit like elite units in high dominions) as well as thug-like battlemages and a really expensive old man you are meant to sacrifice to summon discount Harbingers.
They do stomp Indies, but they are Late Age and that means they compete with the Mechanicus-expy and their stupid mecha-drakes and giant carrier-blimps. And the necromorphs

>>535351721
Our game was all ages but only confluence nations, I was the MA flayed mages myself, the ones that have a ton of S summons and some sort of blood obelisk (which was bugged). The fact their regular units could cast spells intrigued me, but I didn't find a way to give them a proper frontline

>>535313570
the mount also has an attack, and has higher protection. protection, high defense, ethereal, good shields, is a robust combination

tie up the frontlines, and be annoying against some unit types like trolls

the underwater version is markedly different, the mount has two attacks

>>535335286
I'd find them attractive if they didn't fuck giant demon goats on the daily. The Taimanin thread is like, two boards away.
>>535350263
Maybe people can help: I dimly remember a mod of guys that discovered they were inside a game and tried to fuck with the program. Can't find it again to save my life.

>>535352251
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3387415304&searchtext=
?

>>535352424
Thank you, brother. May your RNG be good and your expansion excellent.

>>535316097
but they both have lots of nature. and the nature glamour crosspaths is one of the more useful crosspaths

>>535320507
>I just wish their mages were a bit hardier
some of their mages have second shapes, right?

>>535352481
Thanks, it's a shame we never checked out the other munations (the NDB extradimensional tentacles and the weird shamanistic misty valley one - Ocaf) and it looks like he didn't port them to 6...

>>535314513
>>535330437
illwinter made glamour awkward on purpose, but they make a lot of things awkward or give them significant weaknesses, which helps keep things interesting. like lightless lanterns not being without drawbacks

glamour also has some great stuff, like rings of the false prophet, often being used by winners of games

>>535341245
true

maybe just stay way back, buff up with barkskin, regen and glamour, script spellcast, and hope ghost wolves are spammed until archers run out of arrows lol

>>535342510
javelins and shields?

>>535342510
They're cheap and have full body armor+javelins and shields

>>535342510
romans are better than their basic combat stats would seem to imply
>javelins and tower shields on most infantry
>medium body armor and good helmets for a balance of speed/enc and protection
>slightly elite stats and cheap gold cost
>swords which deal above average damage compared to spears
>very high map move speed (16 for troops, 18 for centurions)
they are almost as good at holding the line as hoplites but more mobile and better at killing

For me it's the humble heavy footman and his brother heavy footman (glaive)

>>535363403
Not for me, every time I've tested them TC infantry seems to perform worse than it looks.

Need a Tibet inspired nation called Shangri La. Buddhist Tibetan nation based on the Empire with Warrior Monk Dob-Dobs ruled over by Hidden Masters.

does cataclysm not blow up thrones anymore? It's not happening at all

>>535365372
There was in dom 4/5 and I think they're still in dom enhanced

>>535365372
COME ON ILLFRAUD YOU STUPID FUCKING FAGGOT JUST DO MA MONGOLIA

>>535365821
Nah I think I'll just add another greek nation

>>535366904
Haha tricked you into working on the game and adding another nation :^)

>>535365496
nevermind games bugged, if you fiddle with the cata timer after starting thrones will never blow up

>>535366904
There is unironically enough greek mythology literature to make like three more nation lines.

>>535366904
You're not Illfraud because Illfraud would just add another Scandinavian nation instead

I'd like a japanese nation that's actually cool.

>>535369365
Nah you get tien chi 2.0

I'd like a japanese nation that's actually viable.

>>535368761
>Now introducing MA Varangia

>>535370626
Cool swordmannii but this is a fantasy mythology game

>>535372454
Half the nations in the game follow the swordmanii model

>>535372939
exactly why we don't need any more

>>535373331
That's for Kristopher to decide

New game?

>>535370626
>random logrianbro working with vanarus oathbound and vanheim hirdmen
Is he just cheerleading or is he the secret carry?

>>535370626
I kinda wish that Pyth leaned harder into the byzantine aesthetic

Gnight domg

Congrats on winning, Musphelheim. I was too busy fighting the horsies to even mess with you.

>>535382523
I had very good map vision all game (for obvious reasons) and I'm pretty sure I was the only player to attack him all game. It was basically a 7v1.

>>535382523
i think everyone was to busy fighting helheim to do anything of value.
i only got that yomi kill, because Hellheim elved everything from him but has no siege to take his cap, allowing me to vulture.
my thronerush was kinda scuffed, but i hoped that dropping 90 pd and moving all mages in range on the thrones will be enough to hold them against anyone trying to stop my thronerush.
my thanks to the glue Factories keping everyone distracted.
You are a funny man, but next time do double turns or dont play, 20 stalls in 50 rounds while i was only cleaning up after your raids was aids.

>>535384197
btw did you have a answer to raging hearts spam, i finaly had a setup to send 2 a turn at you forts?

i will try to write a smal write up this Weekend if i find the time. If i dont i will write it next week.

>>535368761
illfraud would ignore any new nations in favor of trade & taint

Negotiations must not have gone well for Russia

>>535391773
Still my favorite merc

>>535384354
If I can fight 7 players simultaneously for 20 turns and then only fall short of a successful throne rush due to 12 air mages deciding they're going to cast nonfunctional debuffs instead of AN damage spells (which every one of them had, even the Dis', courtesy of SCBM) on a 0 SR monolith for 30 combat rounds, then I think other players disregarding all game objectives because they got raided once is simply a skill issue on their part. I can't plan for players like Abysia and Yomi deciding their entire participation in the game is going to be Suicide By Helheim any more than I can all my mages simply deciding they don't want to do anything in the most important battle of the game. As for me taking longer turns, well, if people want to 7v1 me for the entire game like the most cancerous discord lobby in existence, then they can wait patiently for the stupidity-induced ass beating I'm going to give them in the process. I'm a player, not an entertainer.

That said I am carefully rethinking my midgame because, as novel as waging an omniwar was, it was incredibly wasteful both of my time and my ingame resources. I also just don't like the idea of leaving a bunch of half dead zombie players in the game aesthetically. They obviously aren't having fun and they're also probably just going to turn that resentment on the player that put them there.

>>535384869
The pretender makes 40 longdead horsemen per turn starting from ench 5, so I don't think an unrest play was a serious threat to the build overall. Plus it doesn't care about the popkill because the only thing you need to make mages is money and forts, troop recruitment is mainly for utility. In that game I had a pretty good stack of longdead already so patrolling it out wouldn't be an issue, not that economy was remotely a priority at that point. Disease would be a lot more annoying because if it hits a fort with a lot of researching vans that would be a pretty relevant loss in military capacity.

Also I'd like to clarify to Rus and Xibalba, I genuinely did intend to establish peace that last time, but that was before I realized I was within 5 turns of winning the game. I was going to put up foul air (hence warning Xibalba to control Gift of Health) and start making disease attacks against the giants, but I was pretty mentally checked out by that point and wanted to take an opportunity to close out the game sooner.

>>535394986
For that matter Abysia and Yomi weren't even originally attacked by me, they just woke up one day, saw my offer for peace and free provinces, and decided their goal was going to be having their units and PD killed by me every turn. The rest were just victims in the crossfire.

Prison of Sneedna

>>535363403
the map movement of the ea ermor units is surprisingly high. and they also have javelins

>>535365119
which age? t'ien ch'i has significantly better archers than ea ermor, and ea t'ien ch'i enables them to buff their archer with all possible archer buffs. tower shields should reduce friendly fire damage from archers

>>535394986
>12 air mages deciding they're going to cast nonfunctional debuffs instead of AN damage spells
were they in range? cast spells, or advance and cast? lightning bolt has long range, but not whole battlefield

>>535398767
as an outsider, looking at the graphs, you played very well and had at one point 3 times as many provinces as the next-biggest player, so they must have seen you as the threat. mounted glamour nations that get going are really scary, in part due to stealth, high army mobility on the map, and ability to very quickly conquer provinces

did you forge gate cleavers or wall shakers, or summon/recruit siege units? or were there other reasons that you did not grab more forts?