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>CBS September Event:
●Friday September 5, 19:00 JST.
▶Cast: Kana Ueda (Ishtar).
▶RT Campaign: 14 SQ.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lrJGCEtbuew

>Grand Duel Rider pre-campaign:
●September 3~16 JST.
▶Release date: Tuesday September 9.
▶Rider materials ticket added to daily mission rewards (~September 17).
▶Rider class Servants:
-Double the EXP when strengthening.
-Chances of getting a Great/Super Success will be tripled.
▶AP consumption for Ember Gathering Quests will be halved.
▶AP consuption for Lancer Training Field will be halved.
▶Stormpods quests they will have their AP consumption halved.
https://news.fate-go.jp/2025/grand_rider_cp/

>Grand Duel Lancer PU summon:
●September 3~16 JST.
▶4*Rider Habetrot (permanent) will be featured in the FP gacha.
▶Check each PU in the link below
https://news.fate-go.jp/2025/2025_rider_pu/

>32M Dowloads Campaign:
●August 30 ~ September 13 JST.
▶Login Bonus: 30 SQ, 2 Crystallized Lore, 1 Rare Prism, 10 Golden Apples, 10 Silver Apples,
2 4*Fou-kun (1ATK,1HP), 20 3*Fou-kun (10ATK,10HP), 20 Hellfire of Wisdom, 200 Mana Prisms and 10M QP.
▶Permanent Master Missions: 1 Lantern of Chaldea, 360 Hellfire of Wisdom,
2800 Evocation Leaves, 95M QP and 1 Holy Grail.
▶Limited Da Vinci Shop lineup.
▶7 Craft Essences and 4 Command Codes will be added to Da Vinci's Workshop.
▶AP consumption for Ember Gathering quests will be halved.
▶The chances of obtaining a great/super success when strengthening a bonus servant will be double.
https://news.fate-go.jp/2025/3200man/

>32M Dowloads Campaign Morgan PU summon:
●August 29 ~ September 12 JST.
5*Berserker Morgan le Fae (limited)
4*Archer Baobhan Sith (story locked)
https://news.fate-go.jp/2025/3200man_pu/

>/fgog/ Friendlist form and spreadsheet (2025):
https://forms.gle/WK4dwSC6Mn2WQfZu8
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1leQ09m5klFajbCcededkANJfeMiAmVz-PbCI_r7xyXc/edit?usp=sharing

>Utility links:
https://pastebin.com/iaWmXAq7

who's gonna be your grand cowgirl

>>537758415 (OP)
NEMO
UNAVOIDABLE

True...

>>537758471
Med B

>>537758415 (OP)
Run Abbybro .

>>537758805
>>537758645
>STD
no thanks

>>537653283
>Pic related + 3 more copies of Melusine
Not bad at all I guess

It better not be Noah, enough with the christwank.

Nasu needs to go back to classic Fate memes and make it Gengis Khan (female) (alien)

Are you ready for a fight for your life VS Saint Nicholas?

Anaru with Ririsu

>>537758415 (OP)
I don't get it
is the grand duel the new event?

>>537759312
Apparently the event won't have free quests so maybe it's just an intro to the grand duel or something.

>missing 60 coins
Eh he's not bond 10 yet anyway
The EXP itself is annoying though

>>537759312
Could be a tower event since they say there's no free quests for it

>grailing m*les
heh, fags.

>>537759312
retardbro..
there's non-rider bonus servants

small boi and small gurl should be small!

more draco content i am crying

Wife in the event, me happi

Ok but why is Rasputin among the event bonus servants? How is he connected to Noah?

>>537760229
he has Azi Dahaka in him, the dragon form of Zahhak

>>537759514
Just run the 90++ pod node instead of a Grand Duel.

>>537760296
The ugly guy that appeared in the snake event? Poor kotomine

>>537758415 (OP)
What is Da Binci doing to Nemo...

Persian/Zoroastrian-themed event when

>>537760663
Futa pegging him

How lucky

>>537759071
That's Mashu's job

>>537760229
And Olga? Isn't she just the Nemo Marines' friend?

uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh i dont have any riders i want to grail.....

>>537761169
Olga will be a bonus Servant for all events until the end of FGO, please clap.

>Habenyan on rate up
Now I feel silly for blowing my fp funds

>>537761282
Based

I don't have a single rider at bond 10

>>537761345
>both Hakunos didn't get a rateup

>>537761345
>no fp
how's that possible

>>537761575
I still don't have Hakuno after dumping 3M points in the gacha, and Hakunon is only NP2.

>>537759910
So that's what GGG stands for...

So no content?
For a week?

I remember them saying that the grand system was temporary?

>>537758415 (OP)
>Grand Duel Lancer PU summon:
Bro?

>>537762262
Lol
and I checked it twice.
I think I copied it from a different text file
my bad, it will be fixed in the next one

>>537762084
I think the current word around the hood is that Grands will get the buffs for the finale, but they are thinking of having some other parts as well for the player to be able to actually use the Grands in all of their glory.

>>537762084
It isn't, for legal reasons they can't get rid of it even if they wanted to.

>noah
>nemoshit
>ankoslop and cuckshit
I fucking hate Nemo so much.

>>537761228
You know you can skip it, right?

Sis...my new FGO headphones are here!!

>>537763061
>trap friend of Shitolfo and flirt and makes move on other girls
>in imaginary scramble, the marines grabs multiple female servants and give the connotation of sexual harrasment

Nemo a shit. I skipped his shitty Santa event to avoid him.

>>537763061
The mentally weak are just that, pathetically weak

>>537763370
Uh yeah, thanks for doubling down to make his point clear.

>>537763061
They're no different from those retards online who can't separate reality and fiction.

I dont care for Nemo because I am not into shotas

>>537763064
what class tho

>>537763636
you will be

Grand Noah basically confirms a Grand First Hassan fight right?

>>537763636
That's fine and normal

>>537764121
Isn't King Hassan the first Hassan? And Cain being the Grand Assassin would be better, the very first murderer.

>>537764546
You WILL like your President.

>>537764546
you lost (again)

>>537764546
The mushroom is desperate

olga is an absolute meme/brick so i just find it funny

>>537764546
you will also love indra

We love Olga here.

>>537758415 (OP)
i'll let her ride my cock, if you catch my drift

threesome with ushi (rider) and binchi (smol)

>>537763061
How can you like ankoslop

ririsu

ive got your grand rider right here

Grand Rider Europa

>>537765403
My lewd tanuki hot wife

>>537765403
Anal in the armpits with Ushi

>>537765187
I don't like him, but his work or any other non-official work has no effect on how I feel about the actual characters.

>>537765992
>not letting doujin works that you don’t like live rent free in your head and cause you to sperg out 24/7 365 days a year in /frog/ for more than 4 years

is it bad that i only like rider ushi? assassin and avenger are a bit too old and hag-like for me, assassin might be rider, but she isn't drawn as cutely

Grand Mary & Anne or Grand Meido?

>>537766438
np?

Not gonna lie I'm half considering granding Columbus just for memes since there are no Riders I actually feel strongly about after 10 years

>>537766513
2 for Meido (I could roll for 3 or 4 rmaybe)
M&A are NP4 (Could easily roll for NP5)

>>537766465
weeblate it, trans

>>537766556
Well he is pretty cool.

did Grand Archer already happen and I just totally memory holed it?

>>537767016
Yes, it was Arash, remember?

The portrayal of Mash is innocent, and if she's innocent, then they should just write about her not caring about Guta and the female servants interacting with her and having fun interacting with all the different servants, but she tries to take the upper hand on the female servants, gets jealous, and calls her father, who saved her life, a knight of earthworms or whatever, so it's hard to sell her as an innocent character and it's disgusting.

>>537766243
I still can't believe they retcon Tezca to Asssassin so Sakurai wouldn't cry about Summer Ibuki getting powercreeped.

>>537767146
I hate to say it but the femcels are right

>>537766304
Avenger is a shitty shit up version by Sakurai anyway because how dare someone like Yoshitsune take away attention and focus from her precious Heian pet characters by existing in the same era.

>>537767016
Not yet.

>>537766691
Pirates are easily the most common spook after Steno.

Here are your Halloween event/Foreigner OC bonus Servants.

>>537766465
>>537766776
>>Game sucks. Too hard and boring. You should quit.
Basically jp doomposting I guess

>>537766776
>Every time I peek into here, I think, "Why does everyone suffer to play (this game)? A game is supposed to be fun, right? It's not like a certain Fromsoft game where the difficulty is the fun, it's just a genuinely boring game, right? It'd be easier and a mental relief if you stopped playing. It is because you have a favorite seiyuu or character? Do you want to read the scenario? Ascensions and animations and noble phantasms and the event scenario can be seen on Youtube or in some other place, right? You don't have to watch them in-game. You're forced to read boring-ass scenarios, made to do high-difficulty (lol) missions in the story that can only be seen as harassment, and do manual runs for materials that don't drop and a paltry amount of QP. And that shitty gacha remains a melting pot of ever increasing characters, and pity is essentially meaningless. ...as I'm writing this I come to realize, just what is so fun about this game? To the people reading here. If you even feel for a moment that you are playing this game out of obligation or habit, I recommend that you quit or take a break for awhile.

>>537768648
we do it better

>>537768539
Why is Summer Melu not on the list?
She fully embraces Albion.

us

>>537768539
Where is LIZ?

Manifesting Grand Rider Loli Genghis Kang

>only the Kiara ascension with animal traits and the President Olga ascensions get the event bonus
It really is Noah, huh.

>>537769883
The new Liz will be Space Beast Foreigner Void Liz (5*).

>>537769928
nice, i get to continue to save for Caster and Assassin events and rate-ups. ushi is my grand rider.

The Rider Duels gonna be so fucking awful, considering how shitty the whole class is...

>>537768648
>>537768885
Sounds more like it's complaining about the people complaining

>>537768648
>>537768885
He's right, though.
>Repetitive scenario on events and stories
>Gaps inbetween those
>Boring gameplay with some of the basic elements still don't get an update after 10 fucking years
>Ruined every other servants with meta system cancer
>Annoying favoritism

>>537770601
I think it's gonna be totally fine like every time before.

A saint shouldn't make a face like this.

>>537748394
The year she gets a busted buff, hopefully.

>>537770709
well yeah we had real classes with useful characters before instead of shit like Ozymandias still being the top of the class

>m*le
>top of his class
lol, fag.

>>537770960
>class so bad a year 1 servant is on top

Memedb time to shine.

>>537771156
The strongest aoe is Iskander, which is year 1 too but likewise got buffed enough to be relevant.

the rider class suck ass

Soon!

Are there any actual supports in the Rider class besides Reines?

>>537770919
Lol. Lmao even.

>>537770820
Cute anal saint.

I am Grand Riada!

>>537771589
Summer Kriem supports Chaotic.
She'd be busted if she got team NP charge but alas.

>>537771887
Wtf bros is this true?

>>537770919
Stupid sexy fox

Just so you know, Noah has Divinity, so a certain someone can do funny numbers against him.
He should be hitting harder than almost every ST rider, too.

>>537771589
Taigong, Alex, Ryouma and Bakin give np charge and buff the team/have a targetable art/quick/buster up + np damage up
There's also Binci and Santa Nemo too

>Noah's ark tower event
Why? Literally who is this for?

>>537772271
Thanks, I don't have most of those so I just couldn't remember.

>>537772172
That's just how it is.

>>537772247
Summer Kriem has Anti-Lawful on overcharge, bro.

>>537771589
Medbee can NP charge fairies and males.

Post your grands effgawg

>>537772634
>cuckshit
i ain't gonna slurp siegfried's semen

>>537771589
Medb is one of the best ones.
Constantine buffs a lot but needs to get charge and use his NP.
If it's ST, the strongest 8 CE team is probably Grand Ozy with Medb and Constantine.
If it's AoE then maybe Double Taigong + Medb.

>>537772890
>If it's ST, the strongest 8 CE team is probably Grand Ozy with Medb and Constantine.
>If it's AoE then maybe Double Taigong + Medb.
Nice, I don't have any of them.

>>537772771
No I'm ashamed of my choices

>>537773017
Arthurbros, Gilbros, and JETsbros...

>>537772890
From the looks of it, I just gotta find the Medb-fags in my friendlist for some extra juice.

>>537772376
Well, Santa Alter and summer Ishtar are in the welfare shop, they can help as well
Bart also gives quick buffs, stars, crit up and np charge too

>noah this noah that
What will you say to cope if it's not him?

>>537773560
Ohhh noahhh. That's what.

>>537772771
>Grand Archer
disgusting
EMIYA should always be an underdog

>>537773560
Anon, they have animal servants and Taigong with event bonuses. It's him.

>>537771887
>>537772392
Kill yourself

>>537769230
You have to go back

Why does Takeuchi's Charlemagne looks so edgy

Our king...

>>537772771
I don't know who to grand for castah and I haven't rolled my grand zerket yet

Is it wrong that I feel self conscious about granding a gag servant because of lore reasons

>>537773942
Just report and move on, they get off to attention so you shouldn't reply to them period.
>Captcha:TGAYR
Those gay retards, even the captcha knows them.

>>537772771
309 873 311
10 slots. Azeri, Wahhabi and jew need not apply.

>>537772890
Disregard that. Constantine is garbage compared to double Ozy NP.
They can both use their bond CE as well for +20% buster.
20% append 20% Ozy charge 1 20% Ozy Charge 2 30% Medb charge 10% grand graph

Even if one Ozy is NP1, he gives +40% ATK and +20% buster (by enabling double bond CE with charge) +deals ST grand servant damage.

Double Iskandarand Ivan are pretty close to tied to Taigon. Unless the enemies are divine where Double Taingong absolutely destroys.

Anyway, this grand duel seems massively skewed in favor of males because of Medb if you use more than one NP.
If you only use 1 NP, Reines can do almost as well (40% vs 70% ATK but more charge)

>>537774564
Your grand Ishtar doesn't look happy

>>537772771
I'mma just gonna post my supports and tell you who my grands gonna be. Oddy, Gil, Memerlin, and Jack.

>>537774972
I like her angry look.

>>537774886
SENT

idk who i'm granding for assassin yet, but it's either jack, homete, or locusta or chiyome

>>537774886
sent <;o)

>>537774886
prostitute yourself in the excel that is in the op

>>537776236
no one reads the OP or uses that. also, kys.

>>537774886
this post reeks armenian hair.

>>537776164
melukek...

didnt the meluschizo go back to loving melu? guy's a whore.

>>537774886
>stheno
lmao

>>537774889
The strongest combination of AoE followed by ST seems to be Medb + Taigong + Maid Alter. Kintoki is also quite good and much easier to max.

Unless it's against divine/demonic where the strongest AoE and ST is Taigong + Taigong + Medb.

>metafagging the grand duels
soulless

Archer and Rider are the 2 classes where I don't care about anyone strongly

>>537776545
Speak ill of my goddess again, I dare you
Kashin is a close second, I don't like Kama or Koyan that much.

>>537776164
Cute and canon.

>>537777162
Gil and Ozy

>>537777467
she
sucks

Rabu Castoria

Brothers the assassin pool is complete dogshit.

>>537775707
>>537776034
To one of you who name is in blue: You are a gay man and an enemy of Christ
>>537777732
..me off daily. As a dutiful wife should.
https://www.pixiv.net/en/artworks/133509159

>>537777945
>me off daily
She has no greater value than sucking ugly subhumans

>>537777782
>Shiki
>Kiritsugu
>King Hassan
>Summer Scathach
>Consort Yu
>Kama
>Gray
>Koyan
>Tezca
Seems decent. Compared to Riders.

>>537778367
Judeo-Turco paws wrote this

>>537772771
Sure, why not.

>>537779953
dude what is that

>>537779953
extremely based rider and caster picks

>>537777093
And I even got that wrong.
Iskandar + Ozy + Medb is around 7% stronger.
It also deals 35% more AoE damage which is probably important.

For ST if it's waterside (it will be) double Nemo + Medb will be the strongest.
Like really disproportionately the strongest. More than twice the damage of Ozy levels of strongest.

>>537777723
haha it's frieren

>>537780328
One fucking day they will buff both Teach and Babbage with +Buster effects. And when that day comes I am ready. But really at this point all I want is for Teach to get something for the 3rd skill, that one is so outdated in this point of the game that it makes me a sad panda.

>>537780657
tits too big for Frieren

>he didn't grand this
gay

>>537780852
Even if they buff Babbage I doubt he'll ever overcome the offensive Caster with low stats debuff.

>>537780852
EMIYA will get his 7th upgrade instead

>>537781056
Built for BEC

>>537781298
Nigga deserves it for being released in negative status. Worst deck, worst NP, worst skills.

>>537781157
Yeah you really have to go all in with Babbage to get the most out of the +100% Crit DMG he now has going on. It is a lot of diddly, though.

>>537781056
She is dumb

CONTENT SOON

>>537781056
No one did btw it's not possible to grand her

>>537781470
Remember how UBW was supposed to be Arts by default before release.

>>537782570
Then who did I Grand...!?

>>537782624
Yeah, but he would have been to good for release. Thanks DW.

>>537772771
Been a pain for everything except berserker and will be for the rest except archer unless it's aoe

>>537780852
Buster servants hardly need buster buffs. You get some of it from class score, anyway. The most important thing is ATK. And both of them have a lot of it.
What they are missing is just charge. If Babbage got 30% charge to his skill 1 he would be monstrous when completely maxed.

>>537782810
Eh, true enough I suppose. I just want MORE for my lads, you know. They've given plenty of buffs for strong Servants in the past already. I'm sort of interested in just what will the Grand Caster slot have. If it will be all about buffing support Casters I will be so sad since both my Grailed Casters are damagedealers.

>>537782624
>>537782749
They could've nerfed the gain like Kiritsugu's and Caster Gil's NP though.

>>537782632
No one

>>537772771
I need more robot servants very badly

>>537780617
And now that I realized the grand duel will definitely have a water stage, Nemo is also by far the strongest arts support (+32% ATK, +12% NP strength, +40% Arts all teamwide)

Double Nemo DPS with Medb will be the strongest ST
Double Odysseus supported by Nemo will be the strongest AoE
Double Nemo (one DPS) + Odysseus will be the strongest AoE + ST

And it's not even close. If they balance the duel around Nemo's numbers near water, everyone else will have a very rough time.

Here is your Grand Wife

>>537784127
I hate the schizo anti-ai watermark, pure nip autism

>>537784834
You can't waifu thots who have received ridiculous amounts of mana from another Master.

>>537785047
She comes pre-lubed.

It is clear that the grand rider will be Noah. The question is, will he share space with Nemo as in Arcade? Or will they expand his lore by giving him more unique ascents?

>>537784834
But she is for Mashu

https://x.com/zonntche/status/1963180637801656757
One of the 8k people with every servant in the game forgot to roll for kriemhild

>>537784119
Not having a full support list of Tokucore Servants is bad enough but it's also kind of odd how they're almost all given white or black outfits with a occasional red.

>Olga
Why do we have Olga again as bonus?
Olga. Again Olga. Olga. Really?

>crying about Olga
>when Summer Ibuki gets a bonus AGAIN

>>537788318
Because no one cares about Ibuki

>>537788318
Ibuki is old news
Olga is in

>>537788280
>>537788318
Because she's a giant; in addition to all the animal Servants, all the giant trait Servants are included in the bonus. Besides Olga's first two ascensions there's also summer BB, Darius and Bunyan.

>>537789197
Nephilim (giant halfbreeds) reference? Supposed to be wiped out by the flood

my wife Biscione also has a lot of bonuses

>>537789197
It's pretty much confirmed it's Noah, the only bonus Servants that don't fit the animal, snek or giant traits are the Nemos, Taiwong (who is friends with Noah), and Caster Gil.

But Noah is boring

>they go with an obvious grand pick
>boring
>they go with an out there grand pick
>aieeeeeeeee, why wasn't it "obvious pick"?????????

>>537790514
I liked the first two. Indra was shit and no one gives a fuck about Noah.

>>537790514
I hope it at least Utnapishtim
Noah is boring and was already used in Arcade

>>537790786
who?

>>537790974
Iori's sisterwife/Takeru's wife

Protection of World's End buffs when?

>>537789197
Why is asc1/2 Olga a giant and the 3rd one isn't?

>>537790705
please don't forget Grand Olga...

I forgot, what was the reason they changed Mashu's VA?

Noah should have been an ojisan

>>537791160
the original got sick for a while so they had to change her
but could also be cause she was already voicing 2-3 other characters in game desu

>>537790705
>Indra was shit
And you think Romulus was better? Lmao

>>537791160
Original had health issues, from what I heard. Or it could have been they wanted to take Mash's character in different direction.

>>537791160
Taneda was sick and couldn't voice act for a long time. Mashu is not the only role she lost.

>>537785706
>will they expand his lore by giving him more unique ascents?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H6M1OF_E0IA

>>537791160
VA got sick and Matthew needed to do weekly voicelines to inform you about how she is a gigantic weeb.

>>537791342
?
Who said anything about Romulus? He was also shit.

>>537791160
Taneda had throat related issues, and she was going to be out of the scene for at least a year, so they had to hire the meme VA that was hot at the time to replace her.

>>537791342
Romulus was boring but he was getting wanked for years before that so it wasn't just some random sliding in like a snake. Lancer was one of the most stacked classes for Grands where they could have picked like 8 different Servants from just among the ones presently in the game, instead of having to go all-out on shilling this brand new faggot.
He also is one of the few characters who actually emphasizes the idea that Grands are supposed to be tied to human order since even though it was specifically an apotheosized version of Romulus, Romulus is a figure associated with human development.

>>537791679
Takahashi is perfect for Mashu. Generic bland VA for a generic bland character.

>>537791342
>>537791658
Both make no sense
Indra is some god no one remember
Romulus is also nobody and has no spear

Longinus should be Grand Lancer. He was a man and killed a god with spear

>>537791036
cutee

I should have been Grand Lancer. My dick is large enough.

>>537791814
>Romulus is a figure associated with human development
Can you explain how some obscure greek god is related to human development?
And what human development have to do with Lancer class?

>>537791923
Maybe if Requiem wasn't fucking dead for almost a decade...

>>537791128
The first two ascensions are U-Olga, who is actually huge and just makes herself smaller and that's why she has her own small gravitational field.
The third ascension is still a mystery, but it's supposed to be the "ultimate" version of Director Olga, so she's mostly something resembling a human.

>>537791293
>>537791379
>>537791490
>>537791581
>>537791617
>Sick
It was a coverup for pregnancy, dumbos. She got """""sick"""" for about 10 months. You know if you're following seiyuu threads on /jp/ it's actually a common practice for them to announce "health issues" when they get pregnant. Heck, this trope is so popular that they made an anime to expose this gimmick (Oshi no Ko) from 1st person perspective.

>>537792236
>who is actually huge and just makes herself smaller
When she appeared in Olympus someone (idk if Douman) said that her body is small (and real Alien God was supposed to be bigger). Did Nasu forget?

>>537792270
fuck off weeb only cultural historians post here

Did this get posted yet? The full doujin I mean

>>537791814
>was getting wanked for years
What? Sakurai literally made him say Nero was better than him in every way. Grand Roma is a apology letter at most. He was a joke.
>>537791923
>Indra is some god no one remembered
Lmao
Dude has connections to the popular Indian servants and tragically, Raikou and Ushi Gozen.
But of course, it's a Japanese game so westerners could care less about the Asian myths.

>>537792450
Maybe she was supposed to be even bigger, or maybe Nasu let his giantess fetish get the better of him. But she's been a giant that makes herself small since LB7 and they made the typical "lol she weights like a hundred tons" jokes there.

>>537792270
Her voice was not the same after it happened, go listen to the sharp decline of quality of her performance between S2 and 3 of Gochiusa if you are not convinced.

>>537792270
You forget that Takahashi Rie(the new Mashu VA) got the same sickness as Tane-chan recently and just disappeared for a month. Not 9/10 months, just 1 month.

>>537792628
You should ask alter where you belong

>>537792962
I lurk both so I forgot where it got spammed first

>>537792729
>Dude has connections to the popular Indian servants and tragically, Raikou and Ushi Gozen.
Sure but did you hear about Indra outside of Raikou discussion?
It's like Pan. No one knows who Pan is. Some small god.
And anyway Gods should not be Grands.

>>537792821
>lol she weights like a hundred tons
She is also really tall, if you look LB7 gameplay sprites, likely at least 6.3+ tall

everyone knows Indra thanks to Naruto thoughbeit

>>537793091
I don't know, anon. Indra has been mentioned since CCC and Apo. You can hear Karna say his name every time he NPs.
Hell, he's popular in Japan unlike Zeus. >>537793324

>>537793324
I stopped watching Naruto halfway through althoughtbeiteverest

>>537791923
Your framing is weird, it makes it sound like Jesus was not a unique existence and was trying to fight, rather than willingly sacrificing Himself. And the spear would was not more than confirming that He was truly dead. Spoiler alert, the thing that killed Jesus was gravity causing asphyxiation more than anything else because that's how crucifixion typically kills someone (though things like cardiac arrest or dehydration are also ways that crucifixion can lead to death, asphyxiation is simply the fastest, most guaranteed cause).

>>537774425
That's how he looked like after he SAXON'd le France, but probably Takeuchi might have done the design first before Higa wrote his personality and Charles/Karl story. Wada also wanted to make him look younger to quote her more "shota-esque".

>>537793895
NTA, but that is still the most famous spear in the world, so making whoever wields it a Grand would make sense if we go by the old fame=power fate rule that is mostly forgotten nowadays.

Mankind only exists because of sex
Therefore, Medbee will be Grand Rider

>>537793895
It's still killed a god (Divine Spirit), and is considered strong Noble Phantasm
A servant power is based on perception of humanity anyway. The abrahamic lore is strong, because it has many believers and unlike East, that faith powers single divine spirit (East pantheon has many gods). So Grail is OP, Longinus is strong etc.
Even if in reality Longinus just killed already dead man.

>>537774425
Ay yo, hol up....That's (Me)!

>>537794274
damn Ruggiero is more African than he should be

Maybe Foreigner OC will drop late September? And the conclusion is Halloween event? Opposite of what happened in Summer.

>>537795779
or maybe that retarded mushroom lied one again

>>537759312
>>537759481

Could be a tower/grail event.

>>537795779
The Halloween event itself will turn out to be the Foreigner OC.

>>537795963
Tower events don't have bonus servants

>OC cope again
How about just a Foreigner event? OC is done.

>there is an over 50% chance olga actually has bonus in all the remaining events of the year
KEKARO

>>537796389
canon wife

>>537796389
Go back

>Rape Proof Kyrielight
I kneel Google Translate sama

>>537796558
It's not Indraschizo though

>>537792270
>conspiracyfag
rotten brain

>>537796659
He says
>You have to go back

Ascension 2 or 3?

https://x.com/okitayuialter/status/1963191747670069554
What causes this type of autism?

>>537796875
1

>>537796294
The mystic eyes event had a bonus for specific servants, i.e. those with mystic eyes had cooldown reduced
Maybe this time they would add official bonus
Makes no sense to add bonus servants for the story only, since it would be rather short.

>>537797290
Ok but why Karna and Arjuna there?

>>537797290
You have to go back

>>537796875
this long so dumb, why does takeuchi loves that coat sleeves up pose so much?

>>537796953
Dopamine from bragging on social media. If you look at their profile you'll see that their entire persona is about owning so many copies.

>>537796953
He has a lot of money

>>537797467
Post another servant with that pose

>>537796875
are there any Takeuchi servants that don't have retarded ascension 3?

Event ended, nobody hometes anymore...

You know at least U-Olga isn't Takeuchi
They did it smart by giving every Element to different artist and Takeuchi not ebing involved with her at all.

>>537797823
That's 2 examples compared to the 500 that have one leg up T-pose

olga should have been takeuchi's design though

>>537797776
Fotm one day fotm everyday

>>537797832
The fuck do you mean? The E-Olgas have different artists for the cards, but otherwise she's all Takeuchi.

>>537797963
isn't 3rd Ascension Bakatoria technically a coat cape one

>>537797737
Brolga
Saber Alter
Gilgamesh

>>537798048
Long detachable sleeves

>>537798202
Brolga is borderline. If she didn't have the cape jacket she'd be good.

>>537798242
ah I forgot, too used to the bunny one
AA is kinda boring for me desu

>>537797963
2 times is still too many, it looks retarded on an otherwise fine illustration

>>537798242
>8 ribbons
Is that more than summer Morgan

>>537798202
I can't take Brolga seriously so she's still retarded and the other two are year one fsn servants which says a lot

>>537767146
and if I say the female players are right?

Grand Rider is (You).

>>537798215
>summer miyu smiling
oot garbage

>>537797737
Medusa

>>537798617
Might aswell be with all the grand cum I'm gonna be milking out of my servants.

>>537770601
What if Noah is good?

Daily dogshit time

>>537798597
they aren't wrong but they're still cringe for being mad about mashu being mean to broman in most of part 1. guda also trash talked him all the time.

>>537798785
I don't roll for shotas.

>>537798785
Was Indra any good?

Dogshit obtained

>>537790705
>and no one gives a fuck about Noah.
Nasu's obsessed with Nemo in case it wasn't obvious to you. He even wrote a fic about kissing him uwu in his blog.

>>537798971
>being mean to broman in most of part 1. guda also trash talked him all the time
Which was stupid to be fair, Romani did nothing wrong to Guda ever, and it was always red herring to pretend Romani is some loser and not one of grand mages
I can get servants hating him because they know he's Solomon and created Goetia
But Guda has no way of knowing that

>>537799093
He kind of is but Lancer has strong hitters, even if it's mostly dogshit too.

>>537798664
>t. Miyulet who has not seen her sprite animations.

For me? It's enkidu

>>537799528
Lancer only has Melu and Biscione

>>537785047
Not with that attitude

>>537799528
his damage sucks
he has no team utility
he is whatever at looping
if anything summer homete is indra if done right

>>537797776
Who are you again?

Jannu Alter is your canon girlfriend.

>>537798971
Guda was a stranger, and he was even nicer to him in Camelot. Mashu is his daughter he saved and she is so "pure" and still trashtalk him. Also Guda never threatened to hit him or punch him as Mashu did. They are pointing out it's really fucking inconsistent she was "pure" and robotic while getting mad at female Servants or treating Roman like that.

>>537799945
Cumdumps can be girlfriend material?

>>537799994
But why doesn't she get mad at male servants?

>>537799945
Abby*

>>537798971
>>537799262
>>537799994
The way Mashu and Guda treat both Roman and Olga got retconned in adaptations. They also treated Olga like shit in the Prologue. Mashu said she was evil and old.

>>537800150
She's just the dream janny while Dantes is busy.

>>537796875
Maid

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aGHHlT6BDFw
gagkino

>>537789640
You know, I really wonder what the nephilim are in the Nasuverse, considering what we now know about its angels. Like, are they the children of people possessed by semi-sentient craft essesnces? Are they fragments of Sefar, like the greek giants? Are they the demi-god children of the Canaanite gods, since all myths coexist and that's probably what they originally were?

>>537798997
Noah isn't a shota

>>537800206
It's Nasu sociopathic "comedy."

>>537800206
>Mashu said she was evil and old.
Olga was supposed to be evil director who dies. I think even experiments were supposed to happen during her time, not Marisbury's.

>>537800592
Very bland episode.

>>537800206
>treated Olga like shit in the Prologue
Lies.

>>537800610
Perhaps the Biblically accurate context where they're just men of renown.

>>537800682
Noah isn't cool enough for me to roll for him then.

>>537799528
No, he's kind of mid
Playable, sure, but for a 2025 servant and being a big shot, he feels underpowered.
I blame it on the curse of the total enemy buff wipe before NP damage

miyu shits on every other lancer and it isn't even close

>>537801326
>buff wipe before NP damage
Now lets compare him to Amakusa...

>>537801116
Guda treated her so badly, Roman stepped in to defend her. You need to replay the Prologue man.

>>537798242
Do detachable sleeves even exist in real life outside of cosplaying anime characters with them?

>>537801697
All sleeves are detachable at least once.

>>537800206
>Mashu said she was evil and old.
Wait, I don't remember that part.

>>537801697
Goth and alt styles yeah

>>537801719
You have to go back.

>>537801995
It's during one of the convos with Roman, she mocks her saying the Director is really evil. Guda was the nastiest one.

>>537800206
To be fair they are teenagers in highly stressful situations and the adults are being less than useful in those moments.

>>537801149
Except they are NOT just men of renown even there:
>The Nephilim were in the earth in those days, and also after that, when the sons of God came in unto the daughters of men, and they bore children to them; the same were the mighty men that were of old, the men of renown.
The passage makes it very clear that they're the children of the "sons of God" which were the various nameless low-ranking gods of proto-Judaism that were later turned into the angels.

>>537800206
Well, Mashu also threatened to fucking kill you in Fuyuki, so at this point its impossible to even say what the fuck the "original" plot and characterization was supposed to be.

So the guy on the far right in the silhouettes was Noah after all

>>537802162
I found this:
>Mash The Director isn't a villain, but she is evil.
>She'll get rid of any staff member she doesn't like.
>Mash Well, I'm not sure if it's okay to call someone who's got a bad attitude, evil.
>Mash ...Sorry, I wanted to give you some encouragement, but I'm not used to cheery words.

Also I forgot how utterly autistic those two were:
>Mash Excuse me, but Fujimaru Senpai, there's too much about Chaldea you don't know.
>Choices
>Y-You really think so?
>Well, I admit I came here clueless...
>Mash I really don't know what to do with you. It's like you're a lost little kitty.
>Mash Well, not that I'm any different.
>Mash It's been about two years since I started here, and I still don't get it. I kind of sneaked in. >Almost like an alligator.
>Choices
>I-Is that right?
>True, alligators have no clue.

>>537802790
Yeah. This "Mashu is a pure robot" is bullshit. Roman's exaggerated behavior while being clueless is better done.

>>537802790
>alligator
What the fuck is an alligator?

>>537803008
Roman wasn't a robot by that point though. He actually did live properly for a decade by the time of part 1, so his reactions were mostly legit. He is just kind of a pessimist still trying to keep everyone's spirits up.

>>537802593
Does anybody have the big version of the silhouette image

>>537803297
A lot of his behavior is still a mask. He doesn't understand humans very much, and Accel Zero has him blurt this out. He acted on a certain way to dispel suspicion from him. His emotions are even more immature than Mashu's according to himself in Babylonia prologue.

>>537803297
His "comedic" goofy moments he can't 'read the room' is because he is still immature with his human emotions.

>>537802292
Look at the immediately surrounding verses
>Now when men began to multiply on the face of the earth and daughters were born to them
This verse is directly referring to humans and is referring to them growing in prevalence.
>the sons of God saw that the daughters of men were beautiful, and they took as wives whomever they chose
The fixation on "sons of God" does not have anything beyond an implication. Humans are also sons of God. Much later when Jesus is accused of heresy he also brings up how human leaders within many ancient civilizations also gained authority as "sons of God," for instance. But more relevant is the following
>So the LORD said, “My Spirit will not contend with man forever, for he is mortal; his days shall be 120 years."
This again is referring specifically to HUMANITY, it is a punishment on HUMANITY for the action of the "sons of God."
The entire chapter 6 of Genesis is referring to a moral degradation within human society, having a random non-sequitur that doesn't directly involve the actions of humanity makes no sense when there isn't even any reason that implies it needs to be read that way.

why arne tyou

>>537801665
Literally never happened.

>>537803831
(You) thought Olga was a cunt.

>>537803008
>Yeah. This "Mashu is a pure robot" is bullshit.
To be fair, she is definetly not an emotionally well adjusted person here either. She even backpedaled on her "evil" statement pretty quickly.

>>537803831
There was also the time Roman infodumped you her issues so you wouldn't be so shitty toward her.

>>537803682
>the sons of God saw that the daughters of humans were beautiful
This specifies humans and god as different things.
Realistic interpretation is that sons of Gods are different nation that looked not like jews, so they though those must be gods (Enoch says Noah had blonde hair i.e., which is unlikely for a jew)
Funny enough some IRL interpretations are that those were Chaldean

But Nasuverse is based on myths so I guess nephilims would be demigods or robots or golems.

>>537804364
Where does he call her a cunt?

>>537801665
Not like Guda was being mean to her for no reason, when she slapped him, fired him on day one (somewhat justified, but still), said straight up in her intro that she saw him and everyone else in that room as cannon fodder and mostly shittalked him, while being as high strung as you can be.

>>537804556
Not with those words, but Guda thinks she has a bitchy attitude. This was prologue Guda before they turned him into a pussy.

I think I don't like Olga

>>537804816
Where does he say she has a bitchy attitude?

>Roman Really, now.
When the director is calm, she can be dependable...
>Dr. Roman Fujimaru, you should know...
The director is in a complicated position as well.
>Dr. Roman Initially, Marie was like you all, a Master candidate.
>Dr. Roman Three years ago, the previous director, her father, passed away and she had to take over Chaldea when she was just a student.
>Dr. Roman Since then it's been one tense day after another. She had to take over as head of the Animusphere family.
>Dr. Roman It was all she could do to keep Chaldea running. Around that time, an anomaly was found in Chaldeas.
Dr. Roman We could no longer see into the promised future of 100 years from now. There was huge criticism from the Association and our sponsors.
>Dr. Roman She was ordered to get the situation back to normal as soon as possible.
>Dr. Roman To make matters worse, they found that she had no aptitude to be a Master.
>Dr. Roman The noble Animusphere family, one of the Twelve Lords, the dominating faculty of Astronomy at the Mage's Association.
>Dr. Roman Oh the scandal that would occur if the head of such a family was found to be unfit to become a Master.
>Dr. Roman You can imagine the level of gossip happening behind the scenes. I'm sure those rumors reached Marie too.
>Dr. Roman She still worked to be her absolute best as Director. This last half-year, she's just barely been hanging on.
>Dr. Roman She's worked herself so hard, I'd like her to come for counseling, but with how things are...
Dr. Roman In any event, she's been emotionally stretched to the limit. She doesn't hate you, or anything like that.

>Please like Olga
t. Nasu
Not sure if a crisis is the moment to infodump her backstory to a literal stranger.

>>537804953
What else is he supposed to do? Wait until the kid he barely knows and the autistic test tube baby decide to drown Director BitchFace in the Fuyuki river and blame it on the skeletons?

>>537805326
>Three years ago
Holy shit, so we did have a timeline. Then Olga is 19 canonically, since she apparently stopped mentally aging at 16 at the time of Moneybills committing Sudoku

>>537805326
Yeah I wonder why he's telling Guda about this person he's been forced to work with to save the world at the organisation he's just entered.

>>537805629
She's 11 in 2004.

eh it's not that weird, most Nasuverse characters get a "They're a dick but they have their reasons/are decent guys deep down" monologues here and there
Shinji got one

>>537805326
How did Olga think nobody praised or acknowledged her efforts when Roman just did?
I don't understand that Nasu is playing that up when most of characters who matter always shill her.

>>537805729
Then we have another funny retcon

Tezcat already said that if Guda had to marry anyone it'd be Olga albeit

Shinji wasn't wrong.

>>537805729
Where does it say that in fgo?

>>537805729
>when someones birth year starts with 19

>>537801426
Amakusa can't even 3T loop with 50% charge CE.
He's not good.

>>537805867
because Roman is a praiseslut

>>537781056
My grand netorase wife

>>537805867
Roman only told this to Guda, and possibly more in a "Please don't try to start shit with this already burned out Tsundere, things are bad enough as is". I highly doubt he told that to her personally. Also she barely gave two hoots about Roman and was all about "Muh Lev"

>>537805879
Chaldeas was finished in year Olga's supposedly born, it's not a retcon to presume she literally came to be with her "real" body.
Maybe the 16 years old referefence is when something happened after Chaldeas activated, not related to her father's "death."

Is Guda an adult

>>537805942
Timeline of FGO is the same, difference is Moneybills going on the train and the Grail War.
Olga is "coincidently" as old as Chaldeas (finished completion). We have the official timeline of when Chaldeas was finished in the Lostroom manual. It'll have been 11-12 during 2004.

>>537805898
I have other plans

The Moonlight Lostroom timeline says Marisbury died in 2012, and Olga became director in 2013 so I think that's when she was 16. Then part 1 starts in 2016 which makes her 19 when she "died".

>>537806117
But Chaldeas could only have been finished after 2004, since that's when Moneybills got the money for it. If I remember right, he was only able to finalize the blue orb after he got the grail. That makes Case Files Olga even weirder, since she exists even when Marisbully didn't win the grail and is just smoking crack at home.

>>537806557
>But Chaldeas could only have been finished after 2004,
Chaldeas was finished during the 2000s. It only needed activation. It's in Lostroom mats.
We know Olga = Chaldeas.

>>537806557
Perhaps Olga's personality existed prior to Chaldeas being completed, she just gained an actual body when it was.

The significance of Case Files in terms of FGO is to illustrate how the FSN timeline is fundamentally different to FGO's, so using it to determine the age of FGO Olga while ignoring information straight from FGO itself is just silly.

>>537806719
Fuck, sorry 1990s*

>>537806117
>>537806557
Yes Chaldeas was only activated in 2004 or 2005
Marisbury said he has useless prototype before, and he needs a lot of money to buy energy to actually finish it

That said, Olga could be "born" already as loli, since she's obviously not a human (and that's why she can't be Master)

>>537804487
"Sons of God" does often refer to divine beings but it also often refers to humans who have a covenant with God. Deut. 14:1, Psalm 73:15, Psalm 82:6, Hos. 1:10 and a larger group. Since there is numerous scattered pieces across the OT that uses the term both for divine beings and humans it really is just dependent on the immediate context of the verse and in Genesis 6 that would be the "human" context.
Another indication is that other references to the Nephilim in the OT happen after the flood account, which implies that they were not some unique being but that they were some sort of category of people.

The only mention that directly alludes to angels marrying women is in Enoch but Enoch has been from inception not something that ancient Jews or Christians took as scripture.

I'd think in Nasuverse one textually accurate way to depict it would be like distinguishing between between Karl and Charlemagne, the idea of Nephilim as demigods may exist but the one consistent with IRL concepts is that they'd be a "popularized fiction."
Higashide is the main guy who does stuff with Biblical figures. He was so light on directly touching the cosmology that angels that are common in Deuterocanon were given, "Well they might exist but not in the way you think" I'd imagine something largely viewed as heretical is something he'd probably tiptoe around.

There are a lot of evil women in the bonus list.
Any very famous evil lady that could fit as the grand rider?
Rinless Ishtar and her bull comes to my mind, it feels lazy to have true Ishtar still be voiced by Ueda though.

>>537803682
>The fixation on "sons of God" does not have anything beyond an implication.
It very much does. Again, we know what the "sons of God" were before Judaism became a monotheistic religion and we know that afterwards it became "messengers (angels) of God".
>This again is referring specifically to HUMANITY, it is a punishment on HUMANITY for the action of the "sons of God."
Except it isn't, because according to the bible many humans after that lived for way longer than 120 years.

>>537806992
>Any very famous evil lady that could fit as the grand rider
Sure, the Whore of Babylon, who rides the Beast of the Apo-.....wait.

>>537806848
Her middle name in Case Files is still a reference to Chaldeas. She has no mother, and she was abandoned because Marisbilly couldn't "activate" Chaldeas in time - this vague deadline shit shouldn't be about Daybit forcing to kill himself.
I think Olga dies at 16 years old, like Mashu would have. That's why she gets no mention in Fate/Strange Reference or El Melloid's Adventures when she was close to Reines and Waver. Since she's an expired good, Marisbilly ditches her.

>>537807138
I excluded beasts from fitting in as the grand rider.

>>537806912
See
>>537807189
>That said, Olga could be "born" already as loli,
Her literal nanny knew her since she was younger than four years old. Around that age Marisbilly abandoned her because he wouldn't get cash for Fuyuki, so she was indeed a normal baby.

>>537806848
>>537806495
To be fair, it could just mean that she never ages past 16 because she's Archetype Chaldeas
Arcueid is 800 and doesn't age past whatever old her Tsukihime body is (she was a loli too)

Olga is very obviously not human that's why she can't be Master (because she is of Chaldeas, not of Human Order)

>>537802790
>Mash It's been about two years since I started here, and I still don't get it. I kind of sneaked in
So Mashu didn't even really work there.

The FGO timeline has to be one of the least consistent things Nasu has ever written.

>>537807380
>To be fair, it could just mean that she never ages past 16 because she's Archetype Chaldeas
She's obviously older than that. Mentally and emotional age is not the same as physical age. Broman's supposely in his "30s" (looking in his early 20s) and he's actually an 'infant' emotionally, 10 years old.

>>537807189
>Since she's an expired good, Marisbilly ditches her.
I feel that Marisbury just accepts he lost and disappears too?
As if he lost interest in everything.
>this vague deadline shit shouldn't be about Daybit forcing to kill himself
Who knows what was that about. Maybe he is fated to die for some reason in 2014.

>>537807557
typical gachaslop story. i always get a kick out of all the simpletons raving about the "EPIC FATE STORY, BEST IN GACHA, THIS IS WHY I PLAY"

>>537772771
>>537773716
>>537782214
Cunny....

>>537807557
The whole thing about time continuing from the moment the earth got bleached after we fix everything is so retarded
That is not how time works.

>Guda and Mashu barely tolerated Olga, who was a bitch
>Mashu just kinda snuck in and started doing child labor in Chaldea
>Bromani was the only one nice to Olga and even then mostly in secret
Kinda wonder how the plot would have proceeded if they didn't soft retcon stuff. Then again, the game was probably not planned to last long initially

>>537807664
Romani looks like he could be 20. Is he supposed to be 30+?

Nasu avoided giving any dates regarding Olga's birth year or birthday. In Case Files it's listed as "unknown" and in the official timeline it's not mentioned:

Chaldean Timeline
1950 A.D.
Success of the Cyber-Daemon “LAPLACE”
Chaldea, start of establishment in XX

1990 A.D.
Completion of the Global Environment Model “CHALDEAS” (Prototype No.1)
(Transported from XXXXXXX)
Due to a lack of funds and materials, the activation of CHALDEAS is abandoned

1999 A.D.
Completion of the Near-Future Observation Lens “SHEBA”

2000 A.D.
Development of Heroic Spirit fusion unit at Chaldea
Birth of Mash

2004 A.D.
Marisbury, success in the summon of a Heroic Spirit at a certain place
Victory in the Holy Grail War
Beginning of the CHALDEAS test operation
Drafting of the Guardian Heroic Spirit Summoning System “FATE”

2005 A.D.
Romani Archaman, new appointment at Chaldea

2010 A.D.
Guardian Heroic Spirit Summoning No.2, success in spite of the refusal to manifest Spirit Origin
Roman, becomes Mash’s primary physician.
Establishment of the Guardian Heroic Spirit Summoning System “FATE”

2012 A.D.
Animusphere Director, death
Guardian Heroic Spirit No. 3, summoned. However, it refuses to contract with a Master and remained as a Rogue Servant

2013 A.D.
Olga Marie, new appointment

2014 A.D.
Mash, 14 years old
Debuts working as a staff

2016 A.D.
The lights of civilization disappear from CHALDEAS
Start of the main story
https://www.tmdict.com/book/#moonlight-lostroom-material

>>537807664
>looking in his early 20s
That's just anime age. Mandricardo is also supposed to be like 33 according to Atlantis, yet his stand in for OC2 was high school Guda's classmate.

>>537807778
i have 120 kuro in the archer slot there, but for diversity's sake and because I also love her, I'm considering 120'ing saika and making her my grand archer

>>537806992
I doubt it's Ishtar but knowing Nasu real Ishtar is just gonna be Rin but with a different hair color.

>>537807732
That's the issue. Why would he give up? He can find money from another source, just wait a little. I think because Olga/Chaldeas will shut down/die after a certain period if not activated. Stopping it would also "destroy" Chaldea as referenced in the prologue.
>Maybe he is fated to die for some reason in 2014.
He offed himself.
I'm just saying that is very suspicious a major character like Olga was in Case Files, who was Reines' fremeny never gets a single mention again in the sequel. And how she's not mentioned in Narita's work when even Zemlupus family get namedropped.
All the artificial children Marisbilly created has an expiration date. Mashu was never going to live to her 18s, and was going to die as a sixteen years old. Olga's probably the same. Maybe she did die.

>>537808047
>2000 A.D.
>Development of Heroic Spirit fusion unit at Chaldea
>Birth of Mash
Wasn't that also a retcon, since she was originally supposed to be 16 right on the time of the Fuyuki mission, which doesn't work in 2015?
Also Roman being in Chaldea in 2005 also doesn't really jive with Babylonia Zero, since we saw him walking the earth for quite a while. Dude got his doctor degree mostly legit, which takes a while.

>>537808047
Chaldea is that old?
Who was Chaldea leader in 1950? Lev?

>>537808063
Don't pretend like you don't have grand cunny in extra and lancer too

Marisbury completely giving up in the FSN timeline was soft-retconned in the special anime original Case Files episode. The Animusphere were funding a false Earth simulation project for one of Waver's classmates.

>>537808047
>In Case Files it's listed as "unknown" and in the official timeline it's not mentioned:
We know she was four when Marisbilly ditched her hot out post Fate/Zero research. This is within Case Files train work when her nanny monologues.

>>537808338
?? was i doing that? saika is also cunny

>>537808047
>Mash, 14 years old
>Debuts working as a staff
bro

>>537808329
Marisbury is super old. In one of the manga his grave also has a pretty distant birth date around 1900.

>>537808026
>>537808060
Gordolf looks in his 40s despite being 28. Romani looks babyfaced. That babyface is even described in the anime designer notes.
Remember his id is fake, and he came to the world 10 years ago. He's as 30 as Hinako is Japanese.

>Bonus servants are animals
>But not dragons
Why didnt Noah let them on his ark?

>>537808353
Pretty sure Marisbury just gave up in the Chaldea project, which is why he starts ignoring Olga since she's part of that project.

>>537808326
>Also Roman being in Chaldea in 2005 also doesn't really jive with Babylonia Zero, since we saw him walking the earth for quite a while. Dude got his doctor degree mostly legit, which takes a while.
Fuyuki War usually ends on Feb, 2004. Roman could have joined Chaldea in December, 2005.
>But doctor degree
speedrun "normal" guy things.
He being around 2005 aligns to a doctor who saved Kiara who wasn't around in other timelines.

>>537808235
Solomon said that Mairsbury himself has just 10 years left to live.
>he didn't have much longer left to live

Maybe this just means he kills himself if can't complete Chaldeas though, as if everything that has meaning to him is Chaldeas.

>>537808456
That part is correct, Marisbury didn't want Mashu to be anything but human luggage for the Crypers as a summon catalyst. Romani convinced Olga of letting Mashu join as part of the staff despite her weird paranoia.

is noah a girl and for (you)?

>>537808235
>He can find money from another source, just wait a little.
He didn't just need money, he needed a fuckton of energy and ressources, like country GDP level. He said so himself
>Marisbury I'm only after the Grail's ability to grant wishes, and my wish is clear.
>Marisbury It's the completion of Chaldeas.
Truth is, the one at Chaldea is still just a prototype.
>Marisbury It was built to satisfy the sponsors. Sure it functions as an Earth model, but it's far from being complete.
>Marisbury It's just like this Greater Grail, Caster. The theory is complete, but the all-important fuel to power it is lacking.
>Marisbury The Greater Grail requires the souls of Heroic Spirits, but my Chaldeas needs something more...realistic.
>Marisbury To power Chaldeas, I would need to take over power plants that could generate enough electricity for an entire country. For no less than six months, even.
>Marisbury Essentially, I need a budget that could fund an entire nation. But the only assets I have...
>Marisbury ...are my precious Offshore Oil Rig, Seraphix, and a French nuclear reactor I managed to buy the other day.

>>537808907
That's just insanely young wtf man

>>537808047
>2016 A.D.
>The lights of civilization disappear from CHALDEAS
>Start of the main story
WAIT
...Nasu pulled the Fuyuki date retcon with lostroom.

>>537808995
They're mages dude, insane immoral shit is their jam.

>>537808456
Not like they have child labor laws in Antarctica. Also its good for the resume.

>>537808914
Yes

>>537809052
At this point to Nasu
>primacy canon:
Lostroom
Babylonia episode 0
that Melty manga crossover
>secondary canon
the game

>>537808724
Because:
https://youtu.be/daFqm2RO7SA?t=56

>>537808596
Gordy would look his age if he shaved the mustache off, I think they even mentioned that once. Roman being "30" could work, since he probably started by incarnating himself at around 20. He definetly didn't incarnate as a kid.

>>537808995
Roman started working for Chaldea when he was 1 year old. When he says Mashu is his senior, he means it.

>>537809248
You forgot the Fuyuki TV special with nicer and slightly more competent Olga plus the Animusphere chant.

>>537808995
If her tasks were basically "Bring the director coffee" or "Clean up the office." it could fly as a "not really" summer job thing. And according to herself she "snuck in" anyway, so she probably asked for it. No point in waiting for adulthood either, since she is scheduled to croak at 18

>>537809328
Gordy even without mustache would look older than Roman.

>>537807098
The genealogies are a whole different topic and it largely is based on cultural context where the ancient Mesopotamian cultures who were writing those early documents commonly used symbolic numbers rather than precise ones.
>before Judaism became monotheistic
There is no compelling reason to believe that it was ever not.

>>537809524
Of course, how could I forget? That one also replaced Lev making a fun hysterical generic evil face with real outrage at her family's actions. Check out all Nasu's shilling boxes.

>>537808928
I forgot about the 2 Chaldeas old theory. I'm thinking nasu did too.

>>537809248
>>537809052
This is like Nasu himself can't remember it then
Because OC4 itself still mentions 2015
>メタトロン・ジャンヌ デミ・サーヴァントとして新生した2015年。
>英霊としての功績が記録されている2016年。
And OC Prologue
>ゴルドルフ たしか、藤丸めが
>カルデアに訪れた2015年の時点で、

>>537808573
Now there is a guy that looks way too young for his age. He looks younger than Roman. Did he do the Daernic method of eating babies to keep young?

Remember to claim your daily absolute dogshit from story gacha.

>>537808928
I'm more wondering how the fuck he transferred all of that energy to fucking Antarctica

>>537810085
Mages can live pretty long, Zouken was nearly 600 years old.

>>537810051
Da Vinci says that Mashu would be a demi Servant in Fuyuki in jan 1, 2016.
Now the OFFICIAL timeline Nasu published sets the story starts in 2016

>muh but oc prologue
Lostroom >>>>>>> OC.
Just face it Nasu wants to jump back to the Prologue. Doesn't matter it's 2016 or 2015. That's why Kirei's Gift Clock is stuck in 2015. He's playing around the date the players now OOCLY, and the one the characters know.

>>537810354
Zouken was a shriveled up prune that needed to vore people with his worms to extend his lifespan.

>>537809750
>There is no compelling reason to believe that it was ever not.
???
Yahweh was some minor god under Baal as Zeus-like god, and had a wife, it's well known now
Then someone (likely Moses after Egypt) reformed it and rewrote the text, removing the other gods
There are still remnants of it being polytheistic in old testament/torah

That's most likely why judaism hated Baal religion so much and ordered to kill children and level cities, to erase that their religion was different before (the regions that had Baal worship got purged).

>>537810051
Nasu's fucking around with the timeline. His xmas event says it's been 8 years of xmases in the story he wrote.

>>537810405
>Da Vinci says that Mashu would be a demi Servant in Fuyuki in jan 1, 2016.
OC4 also has Metatron saying Mash became Demi Servant in 2015, which is what I quoted
It's not consistent

>>537810405
I liked the original timeline more. them needing precisely one year on the dot to clean up the singularities feels artificial, while them needing roughtly 1.5 years, with the whole shitshow starting on a random date (actually App launch day) feels more down to earth

Honestly, I'm sure Nasu has a ridiculously convoluted twist with the dates ready for the final chapter. So just this time I'll give him the benefit of the doubt.

>>537810085
He bathes in semen regularly to keep his skin soft.
Miss the old Man MarisbillyxSolomon fanart.

>>537810724
>Actual final chapter is you going to the TRVE timeline of 2015
I think the Riyo Manga even had some shenanigans like that

Guda has died multiple times and Olga brings him back through via Part 1 simulations like the Crypers, and she always travels with him but he doesn't remember because he always dies in the final battle with Goetia because there's no Mashu to cover for him.

>>537810687
Nasu hates part 1 is remembered fondly became it run with us, keeping the time compression realistic. He's trying to shit on that to prop his flop part 2.

>>537810724
Or he'll say "Hahah don't think too deeply about it."

>>537810509
That certainly is a belief among Reddit atheists who are going off of "vibes." Some historical scholars do try and twist themselves into pretzels to justify it but it doesn't match the evidence.

>>537810898
That's the newest storyline in the Riyo timeline with the characters going back in time and getting mixed up with the male Master/Crypters timeline.

I'm sure Nasu might want a "Book end" scenario with Mashu and Guda meeting (again) for the first time in the corridor. That's why he's pulling all this shit with the dates.

Imagine if by the end no one even knows what year it is, and even the "smart" characters are just talking out of their ass.

>>537809337
anal

I dunno what year it is. Was it 2017 or 2018?

>>537811287
Why bother? You can still do that with the "Time leap" they hinted in OC4, assuming either one (or both) die in the final battle

There are anomalies that were never explained. Such as that event with Roman and Moriarty together, and Moriarty and Roman mentioning they don't know each other. The version for Archer Moriarty is a Phantom who cannot be created without specific events of Shinjiku. Roman knew the character locked behind part 1: Salieri and Izou (Guda Guda was locked behind part 1), but not that Moriarty. This also is the same for the specific version of Nemo Sion summoned as Pseudo Triton.

Could there be multiple timelines?

A wizard did it.

>>537811527
Yes, but he wants people to debate if it's after part 1 or the prologue, so he makes it convulted with the absurdity backtracking of the year the story began.

>>537810159
Our army runs on daily tofu CEs

FGO will have the same ending as the Jack Kirby parody episode of Panty and Stocking.

>>537811583
>Could there be multiple timelines?
There definetly are. Arcade for starters, and Draco mentioned murdering multiple versions of Chaldea in her original convergent singularity. Hakuno also implied that maybe you will meet an opposite gender version of yourself too. And that's not even mentioning the franchise in general having Kaleidoscope Man running around.

>>537759413
Goddamn, Habethot wants to die in a different way.
I would kill fucker, but I would cast guts on her first.

>>537811583
>Could there be multiple timelines?
Arcade is another timeline/universe

>>537811896
I forgot that Holmes was also in the event, but Roman only specificially mentions he doesn't know the "Colonel" (Moriarty).

>>537811230
>who are going off of "vibes."
What the fuck does it have with "vibes" and reddit?
We have Egypt which had polytheism and then one pharaoh tried to make it monotheistic with sun as main deity, and Moses lived in that time. It makes sense Moses could just take the idea from the pharaoh.

There is also some real hate in Deuteronomy to specific people from Middle East. Why was it required to kill children and level cities if not to erase history without traces? It was rare even for old times to kill children and women, and there was no reason to destroy cities.
This one is an assumption though, but I feel it's realistic.

Anyway the Yahweh being a minor god under Baal is literally confirmed now, as well as him having a wife, and torah have many "gods" in plural (including the genesis which has "And the Lord God said, Behold, the man is become as one of us, to know good and evil: and now, lest he put forth his hand, and take also of the tree of life, and eat, and live for ever", it is obvious that is was possible to humans to become gods in old mythology, which makes no sense after transition to monotheism, how the fuck can human become an omnipotent god just because he knows what is evil).

>timelines
Simulations of what is are also possible.
Only Musashi is data lost. Everything else is possible.

>>537811583
That's what it's all going to come down to in the end. The idea is that there was a timeline collision with Fuyuki and we need to go resolve it.

>>537811732
>he makes it convulted with the absurdity backtracking of the year the story began.
Yeah if he wants to retcon it maybe don't mention 2015 in OC4 itself.
(Could also change Fuyuki to 2016 too.)

>>537812309
>You can sword so hard you just undo your own existence and even the omniscient, near omnipotent super computer that can create entire timelines can't unfuck you.
Only in the Nasuverse...

>>537810354
Zouken is a rotten zombie smellier than Manaka, tho.

Guda falls in love with Olga.

Unable to confess, he is gifted by a dues ex machina called Chaldeas. Never minding that servants are technically different beings he immediately summons her and is overjoyed to find out that she has a crush on him as well.

But, the next day, when he recounts the previous day's confessions to his director, she only looks at him with a perplexed expression. After some investigation, he finds out that the girl he called is not the same one he fell in love with. In fact, she doesn't exist in this universe at all. She is his Olga's alternate ascension counterpart, who has fallen in love with her employee, the MC's own AU self, who too is blissfully unaware of her crush.

Hijinks ensue as the two strike up a deal to give each other their darkest, most private secrets in order to equip the other with the weapons they need to conquer the heart of their other selves. While the two chase their respective loved ones, DRAMA ensues as they begin to fall in love with each other instead and question the NATURE of GACHA GAMES.

Heres your gacha ending, Nasu told me herself

>>537812580
He did when Da Vinci said Mashu was going back when she became a demi Servant in Fuyuki, 2016.
He wants people to keep guessing the how far we'll go. Even Sion says that "how far back we'll go???"

>>537812740
>Guda falls in love with Olga.
>Unable to confess
KEK

>>537812591
I checked the my room SG when ORT was lunching our Servants and the data lost was only on the playable Servant we choose in inventory not the actual masterfiles unlike Musashi.
She's the only one in the game that got that. And Summer Brolga couldn't replicate her.

>>537812580
He made Vinci's speech vague for a reason.
"2015" reference could be December 2015 now, like how the prologue of part 2 is also set on December. He is autistic as fuck with dates.

>>537812740
So, is Mashu sitting in the chair?

>>537812946
>how far back we'll go
You actually go back to the Dinosaur Age

>>537813472
You use her to summon sometimes
So yea

Guda will die. But his soul will choose to go back in time, the time when he was happiest, and he will be at Part 1 Volume F. Olga who loves Guda wants to be with him too and wants to be in a time when Guda'd love her, but since he already loves Mashu she'll go back in time before Guda is born, and become his mother.

>>537814050
>his

>>537814050
>the time when he was happiest,
Making doujins apparently, given how he lost his shit in Summer 8

>>537814050
What the fuck is happy about Fuyuki, world just got destroyed and there are monsters everywhere.

The saddest part for me is that Marisbury could actually be dead and he will never appear again
Since Nasu never uses "last villains" again, see Twice, Zouken, Kirei. Never mentioned after their main work.

>>537812176
You seriously should just research into this because there are so many fundamental problems here. The least of which being that there are generally two pharaohs that are considered likely candidates for the Exodus and neither of them was Akhenaten, part of an early Exodus hypothesis is strengthened as an 18th Dynasty theory specifically BECAUSE the theory that the Exodus predating it would have given a reason for Atenism to be pushed.
>why was it required to level cities
This counteracts your theory, if the Israelites were getting into wars over their belief system why would that be the case unless it was fundamentally incompatible with the Canaanite region's beliefs in some way? Such as, perhaps, refusal to worship a pantheon because they were monotheistic?
>minor god confirmed
This is what I mean when I say "based on vibes," there is no evidence suggesting this whatsoever.
>plural pronoun
Ancient evidence for Trinity doctrine, but if you want to disregard it there still is the belief of a divine council which is not "polytheism" but simply a result of God being a relational being. That is to say, God creates those to share in creation not because of a necessity, but because of a desire.
>become gods
Reread it, become LIKE God in the knowledge of good and evil. Prior to eating of the fruit man only knew good because man was in perfect covenant with God. Disobeying God and breaking the covenant provides knowledge that makes them in that way more similar to God who also knows of good and evil.

You really can't use Biblical texts to try and push an "ancient Abrahamic polytheism" when Biblical texts are unambiguously monotheistic start to finish.

>>537814380
>Kirei

>>537814209
It was his happiest time because he hadnt played 10 years of FGO yet

>>537814380
>Twice
Your Hakuno line during his NP?

>>537814380
>Kirei and Zouken
I also haven't read any of the game too

>>537814380
>Zouken
You mean the guy that we had to put into the grave three fucking times in OC1? The one that backstabbed us at the critical junction in the FZ event?
>Kirei
Bro, he is in my Chaldea...

Marisbury is probably the most alive TM character of all time.

>>537814491
>Such as, perhaps, refusal to worship a pantheon because they were monotheistic?
They didn't have any problems with Egypt though, they just fucked off.
Also only half of Israel got purged to the ground, the other half was spared:
>Thus you shall do to all the cities which are very far from you, which are not of the cities of these nations.
>“But of the cities of these peoples which the Lord your God gives you as an inheritance, you shall let nothing that breathes remain alive, but you shall utterly destroy them: the Hittite and the Amorite and the Canaanite and the Perizzite and the Hivite and the Jebusite, just as the Lord your God has commanded you
Why was that? Why are those who close must be purged and those that are very far should be spared?

>Ancient evidence for Trinity doctrine
Why the fuck would old jewish texts have trinity doctrine?
Do you know that jews literally reject the new testament as the lie? (Because the whole story there is absurd to be fair, and is ancient example of Ex Falso Quodlibet, and the torah said messiah would unite Israel and rebuild the Temple which never happened?)

>when Biblical texts are unambiguously monotheistic start
They were rewritten many times, and it's pretty obvious they were polytheistic in the beginning.
Also I did read not just bible, but full Zohar (which is also fun example of the mental gymnastics and proves that you can derive whatever you want from any text if you try hard enough). It's pretty obvious that those texts are written by men and retconned many times.

>divine council which is not "polytheism"
???
"The concept of a divine assembly (or council) is attested in the archaic Sumerian, Akkadian, Old Babylonian, Ancient Egyptian, Babylonian, Canaanite, Israelite, Celtic, Ancient Greek and Ancient Roman and Nordic pantheons"

>>537814973
Nasu is just going to copy this twist
>ACTUALLY MARISBURY WAS WITH YOU THE WHOLE TIME HE WAS JUST OFF CAMERA SLIGHTLY TO THE RIGHT

Guda won't die. He will just become a salaryman.

>>537815595
so he'll die inside

>>537815595
Nasu should do an ending that criticizes shitty salaryman endings
>Guda becomes a salaryman
>FGO 2 is just the new MC having a blast with them occasionally cutting to Guda miserable at his salaryman job

>>537815573
Well, then we definetly can't let him live. He saw too much.

Chaldea will be destroyed, all will die but Guda, and he will have to start from the very bottom.

>>537816421
Ok, but how do I summon my servants?

>>537816584
By drawing funny circles in the ground.
Every time you roll the gacha you will have to draw funny circles on your phone from that point forward.

>>537816584
The servants are only helping us until we save the world anyway.

>>537815573
There's nothing wrong about that.

The true is that no ending, now matter how well done, would feel satisfying
This game has been going on for far too long for that. It has a life on it's on, and you can't get a satisfying end for that

I am not guda I am myself so I won't end that way

>>537816997
Stop making sense

Guda is the next king of the knights, which is why Merlin has been keeping an eye on us all this time.

>>537816997
I am guda, therefore I will die...

>>537816730
Not *my favourite*. Xhe promised that we will stay together forever

>>537817134
Seibah crying outside the window

>>537817134
>Guda is the next king of the knights
*next Incubus

But Guda will be going to the servant universe after Part 2??? Guda will be gainfully employed and be the kouhai this time to this cute senpai

>>537817134
But then Guda needs to become bri*ish

>>537817654
The horror

>>537817651
>gainfully employed
This chick has to whore herself out on OnlyServants for basic food and rent.

Got off my ass to finally do this.

>>537817134
I see it

>>537817654
what about the human who defeated Velber 02?

>>537815537
It's beside the point but the ancient texts using plural pronouns when referring to God is basically just an evidence that divinely inspired texts allude to the Trinity, it's one explanation but not the only one. The Hebrew term used to refer to God, elohim, is interchangeably singular and plural so that's a non-starter.
>divine assembly
A divine assembly is often within the structure of a polytheistic religion but it is not within Abrahamic religion. There is never an assertion that God is one among many, the assertion is that there may be other spiritual beings but that God is unique.
In a pantheon the divine council is necessary, each god holds a role that they are uniquely equipped for. The divine council referred to in the Abrahamic scriptures is not that, it is God and a collection of unnamed other beings that God shares in administration with. In one of the most prominent locations the divine council is referred to, it involves them not fulfilling their duties so God dissolves the relationship and reclaims the duty. That directly displays they were part of the council out of desire, not necessity.

>all the texts don't match my narrative? Oh, they were rewritten
Well if you hold that stance you might as well just not even bother.

>>537818017
Spiritually bri*ish

Finale will just be this with Guda and Marisbiully
https://youtube.com/watch?v=JoJ32JchVno&pp=ygUWYmVzdCBtb3ZpZSBlbmRpbmcgZXZlcg%3D%3D

>>537811230
We know from archaeological evidence that the jews came from the canaanites, we know the canaanite's religion was polytheistic, we know the transition was slow from ruins of polytheistic hebrew temples and even the bible references the slow transition from polytheism to henotheism (no clear signs of monotheism can be found until 5th-3rd century BCE), such as the destruction of the Asherah poles, which of course implies that there was worship of Asherah (the wife of the Canaanite chief god, El) by the jews prior to that point.

Marisbury is just trying to protect his humanity, from the true enemy...

>>537817848
grats bro!

marisbury's true project was (You) all along, Olga and CHALDEAS are just a smokescreen

>>537818863
OC4 confirmed this.

>got my cute rider with tickets

WAHOOOOOO FINALLY SUE CAME

>>537819882
Congrats on your chinaman and his family, bro

>just realized I have no bond 10 or grailed any rider
SHIT.

>>537820598
bro? your ushi?

>>537819871
Last time we took Mashu's shield to beat the final boss. Now we'll take her gun.

>>537820229
It was actually Andromeda and Cetus

My Captain is ready

>>537819035
That's assuming that a polytheistic belief system existed prior and that monotheism was an offshoot which is just a conclusion gained off of "it feels more right to me" rather than evidence. There is an equivalent argument that it was an attempted assimilation of a monotheistic religion into a polytheistic one if you believe they were coexisting. We've actually seen this happen in more recent history, Hindus when introduced to Christianity tried to incorporate it into Hinduism (not out of malice, just out of an incompatibility with their religion and monotheism).
Even within the context there is still very much just the very messy situation of Israelites worshipping incorrectly, which is a constant theme in the Old Testament. When Moses establishes that Israel and its people are monotheistic it positions their teachings very early on and things that conflict are what you would expect from people with a belief system that was unheard of at the time.

If the assertion is "Israelites worshipped other gods" then, yes, that is true, and we know it to be true in part because there's an entire book in the OT condemning it. If the assertion is, "Abrahamic religion was originally polytheistic and Yahweh was some 'minor being'" which is usually what people are getting at when they make such a claim there is no compelling reason to believe it.

Basically when Moses is the source of the oldest books and the Pentateuch includes something as explicit as, "I am the LORD your God, You shall have no other gods before me" that sources the origin of the belief system as monotheistic.

>>537822097
to give me paizuri. hehe.

>>537822329
Who the fuck wants him

>>537820781
wait. bonded 10 my kintoki from killing liz.

>>537822676
His VA is a popular heartthrob and Takeda Shingen is a big name for Sengoku fans.

>>537818162
>>all the texts don't match my narrative? Oh, they were rewritten
>Well if you hold that stance you might as well just not even bother.
NTA but we know for a fact from text comparisons such as with the dead sea scrolls with biblical texts and even by comparisons of passages of the biblical texts themselves (such as the two contrasting versions of the creation myth) that there have been edits in them.

>>537822676
He's not uber popular but he got fans, me included. That particular artist has been pretty dedicated since his release.

>>537826196
SNIIIFFFFFF

>>537800132
Because how part 1 was written, the male servants were not approaching (you) in a way that set off Mash's cockblock instincts.

>>537826645
she rides me

>>537828302
A failed loli.
Fuck you wada.

>>537828648
Wadas really bad at drawing lolis
She always gives them longcat ass bodies

>>537811261
From what I remember it is female guda's timeline and in an attempt to restore the timeline Mash inadvertently kills Lev(somewhat accidentally), Ophelia, Beryl and some other staff members. She then fails to kill Olga with the bomb. While this happening male Guda joins in to save Kadoc so they can be together for part 1 and so he never meets the "witch".

>>537829494
That Riyo new "storyline" is going to the prologue sure has some timing.

>got 11 SSRs so far in 2025

Way lesser SRs

What the fuck

Is Ooku still the shittiest event?

>>537830689
At least you got Miyu who is the only SR released in 2025 that matters.

>>537830883
Ooku wasn't even the shittiest event when it released, that award went to Go West.

>>537831027
Crane Liliy looks decent too.

>>537831242
Gameplaywise, she's basically Lilith's best friend. Shame her character is just so bad.

>>537831242
I will never acknowledge anything that has to do with that steaming pile of shit known as Crane. Crane's role in summer would have been better filled by Habtrot

One good thing about Olga being shilled in Events is that she will not appear in Final Chapter at all
So she may get all Events, but no main story

Miyu, Crane Lily, and Swimsuit Homete are all very worthy SRs for 2025. I don't remember any other ones if I'm being honest. Did we get any others this year prior to summer (besides used goods but sex kriem)?

Why is the bar so low?

>>537831431
Lol lmao even biggest joke of century.

Seriously though why is Crane Lily carrying around a buttplug in her FA?

>>537831743
those are sunglasses

O that's right. OC4 gave us Ashoka, who honestly is decent for gameplay I guess, but he's a fucking ugly poo male.

>>537831610
Kurohime is niche with the Serpent/Dragon support thing she has.
Ashoka is objectively good gameplay-wise, but I'm assmad that I MLB'd his Summer CE 3 times over so I don't want to see him for the rest of 2025. Same with Semiramis really, but she's fully limited so it's less of a worry.

>>537831743
She's a naughty chick

Moi.