Thread 538659093

Billy Girl Edition

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>Latest patch:
https://forums.playdeadlock.com/threads/09-04-2025-update.80693/

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Post your Steam profile and ask. You need to accept a friend request to be invited, so don't be a sperg.

>How do I git gud?
Do the tutorial, get a feel for each hero in sandbox mode, explore public item builds, watch replays. Playing a Hero for the first time will put you into a lower rank game*, so don't worry about it too much.

Additional Resources:
>Unofficial Wiki
https://deadlock.wiki
>New Player Guide
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1lMBE7Nli_sVJ42d-kPHjF3MBaXZdIM46gNJQC_fMGMU/edit
>Advanced Movement Guide
https://www.dlmovement.wiki/
>Unofficial Stat Tracker
https://statlocker.gg/
https://tracklock.gg/
>Unofficial Voiceline Viewer
https://deadlock.vlviewer.com/

Crazy how desperate for attention the furfag was.

>>538659093 (OP)
billy if valve wasn't shit

>win 6-7 games in a row by myself
>rank doesnt move
>lose 3 games in a row playing with my friends who are below me in rank
>lose 2 ranks
good to know i cant play with friends without it tanking my elo

>>538659197
I gave you nearly 15 minutes to make your thread.
Don't like it?
Get off your lazy ass next time.

The new gamemodes can't come soon enough, i hate this retarded fucking dota but shit mode
i hate getting poked out of lane by some retarded nigger hero
i hate splitshitting
i hate having to farm for 5 hours and then still getting shat on
honestly i hate this fucking game
i should just play dota

>>538659297
Yeah you got your thread, nobody cares now. Back to deadlock discussion.

>>538659382
You brought it up, fuccboi.

On topic though: why can't I stop playing Victor?

They really need to make the spirit scaling on victor’s health regen do something. Early game it’s eh, but he’s already weak in lane. Lategame it serves no purpose. With 200 spirit, it should at least give something between 50-100 regen

How do you get better at 1v1 fights? Is there some general advice?

I don't understand what I am doing wrong with Pocket. Even if I win in lane and have a decent farm lead I don't feel like I am impacting the game at all.

>>538659867
gank gank gank gank then spread aids in teamfight

objective gaming holy shit

>>538659867
Your job is to jump in, press ult, see everyone counterspell it and die in the next 0.3 seconds

>7 losses in a row
Hahaha I'm going insane lol

>>538660573
>27 in a row a few months ago
Get on my level, faggot.

This game will be improved tremendously when they add bans so I never have to see Niggerfernus and Niggerseven ever again.

Oh wait, IceFraud will add Dota 2's "maybe" ban system and I'll still have to see their ugly nigger faces every game. Good joke.

>>538660953
How the fuck are you still playing? Are you in the Seekr 0,5 now?

>>538659272
why do you even care?

>>538659093 (OP)
>not a human bod
BORING
can people actually get billy right, it's a fucking guy with a goat head, it's not rocket science, stop drawing him as a furry

>>538661152
I quit for like a month after the 27th loss.

>>538659093 (OP)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WkGDC3idX1E&list=RDWkGDC3idX1E&start_radio=1

>>538659867
Then change character, i hate to play Pocket. Its a hero for rats.

What if Calico looked like this?

>>538662207
Understandable

>>538662478
>Going against nigfernus in a lane for the 10th time in a row

Miku might be my new favorite hero

>>538663814
how do you build her?

>>538663890
Very carefully

>>538662926
somehow prettier than the bald nigress we have now

>>538663890
I just build for gun with monster rounds, titanic mag and tesla and shove waves

>all the gun characters play the EXACT same
>all the Spirit characters play relatively the same
>all the ooga booga grug heroes (Abrams, Victor) all play the same
>there are zero unconventional heroes to pick No, Niggerman with portals is not interesting enough to change this verdict, most of your time is spent just being a generic Spirit nuker or a chain CC bot with Ult, cart and knockdown
This game's fucking boring me to the point I am dozing off in my seat.

>Have a rancid lose streak
>But icefraug keeps peppering in games where I stomp to keep me playing
I hate being a seeker scrub. I wish I could get better, but I feel like I have no avenue to grow when every game is a stomp.

Sometimes, I see an orange ouroboros sprite appear behind a hero. What does it mean?

You can tell DDK and ZP fucking despite this puckett nigga

From today onwards when i get angry im just gonna mute everyone and do minimum playing. Maybe even do a meme build for whats left of bad game.

>>538664594
Fortitude activating.

>>538664412
do we know if this game has EOMM yet? I just started playing and I’m n000000ticing a pattern like this forming. 1-2 games where my opponents are brainless chimps who just wanna ape teamfight every game and lose lane hard, followed immediately by the sweatiest niggas queuing the gayest duo combos in existence that never miss farm and will deny at least half my minion souls

>>538664689
Good luck

>>538664887
I don't know how matchmaking is supposed to work in this game, but I have the same problem. Absolutely ping ponging between noobs that I stomp and getting dumpstered by some Infernus. Can't wait for bans, I'll tell you that much.

>>538664623
Why do they even bring him on? I don't think he even plays the game

>>538664887
Please dont bring your schizophrenia here. Deadlock uses a simple ELO system. Brainless chimps are used to average out higher ranked players so the teams average matches your opponents average elo.

>>538663975
I love bald nigger Calico I want to slap her head when she's giving me a blowie LOL!

>>538665236
they brought him on as a hook for the people who are unfamiliar with the game I think

>randomly get seven
>victor, mirage, dynamo on enemy team
draft when draft when draft when draft when

>>538665419
Hahaha

today I was finally able to pick victor but the other team had an amazing Grey Talon. Thankfully I killed the other team's warden so much he quit and we won. My victor was so strong that I was able to kille both talon and infernus on the yellow line near their base, resurrected and killed calico and billy. No one had shit like heal bane so I was pretty safe.

It also dawned on me that lower tier players tend to focus too much on team fights instead of pushing lanes and making thoughtful plays. Our lady geist for some reason really insisted on trying to kill talon and died like 10 times to him., would have been great if she had used her fucking ult on bebpbop or something

>>538665412
so it’s not functional and just goes the same way every other game does, got it. I can have bearsfan1964 and xXxN1GG3RK1773RxXx on his 500 hour haze both on the same team. Got it

>>538665161
Seven and Paige are getting permanently banned if I’m given control of the bans

>>538664689
How do you mute people ? I almost never get talkers, but when I dot hey're always annoying.

>>538665932
for some reason this game has attracted the hots and league crowd that are just of the mind where you need to 25/7 unga bunga teamfight

>paige is my highest winrate hero
>feels like I am literally doing nothing when I play her
ok

>don't really find any characters interesting or fun
>except Calico, which is delightful to play
Explain

>>538666439
isn't her playstyle pretty unique right now

>>538666439
you like pressing 124

>>538666494
I dunno, I'm a trash player. I kind of use her as a hit and run ganker.

look at this nigger
slows thrown at Nigfernus here:
>slowing bullets 30%
>cold front 60%
>aura of suffering upgrade 30%

speeds I have:
>fleetfoot
>surge of power
>painbarrier upgrade

And all this nigger has is basic ability, and he almost outruns me.
I fucking hate how stupidly overpowered infernus is. Never fun to fight against and stupid low IQ players just hit 1 button and win fights. I also love my team fucking around as 3 man in base with an urn like it's the most important and only thing they need to do.

how do I make my shitty drifter build less shitty

>>538667078
oh that bebop got you PISSED

>>538667078
genuinely what the fuck is your team even doing lmao

>>538667078
does infernus get lifesteal from flame dash? remove dat

Jewish toon with passive soul trickle, illusion of being on your team during which he cant be damaged, golem summon and his ultimate is dubbed Fairfax aid that causes bombs to randomly fall from the sky

>>538667351
if he gets spirit lifesteal which most do. as much as league sucks they had the right idea making spell vamp really hard to get

>>538667080
>only t4 greens
eat your damn vegetables

Whenever anyone who doesn't play Sinclair gives their opinion about his moveset, they 100% of times say the most idiotic retarded nigger shit possible. It's clear to me this character is too complex for the average deadlock nigger.

SCARABS!

CONSSUUUUUME THEEEEM

*plip plip plip*

>>538667080
get fortitude, lifestrike and cultist sacrifice

>>538666095
Mina and Paige for me, these niggers better learn to pick a real hero next time

>doorman in game with furry nickname or some other obnoxious gay handle
>rushes echo shard and does nothing but walker setups
>they end 1/1/3 accomplishing nothing

stop

>>538667924
Well you see, his moveset provides him with some pretty reasonable all around movement, damage, and control. This flexibility allows you to adapt your playstyle to the different ultimates you might end up using.

>>538667078
Turbocucked by Bebop, amazing

*Spews her load all over you and flies back to base until she's full again*

>>538668615
even the better mina players play like pussies so I like to initiate to make her waste the ult so she can't insta gib objectives

>When I play Lash
>I play like ass
>When I get a Lash on my team
>He's a fucking god flying around the battlefield stomping people's faces in
I just want to be good on him...

>>538668546
>broooo you dont get it, here is a door use that door, I thought that through broo, use that door bro its genius please bro Im smart

>>538668692
I just prefer to rush phantom strike so I can fuck her up.

>>538668546
>they

was this a good build?

>>538668578
Yes. You get it. But it's frequent people say he's up for a redesign or a complete rework on his kit. Shitters be posting on oficial forums this character is bugged when it's all intentional, they are just fucking clueless of how it works.

Your description is spot on.

>>538668765
Bro, that's the dehumanizing "they" not the culture warrior version.

>>538668615
>slowing hex
Ez

>>538668765
esl retard

>>538668820
Could add suppressor.
Does escalating exposure amp self-damage from aura?

>>538668885
Hard to tell, internet is deaf to nuance

>>538668421
cumbrains will force literally the worst characters imaginable just so they can see their waifu move around on screen, mina has the added curse of being a goth chick so all of the brainwashed zoomers flock to her

So if you barrier/heal 25k but one of the opponents only did 20k damage, does that mean he pretty much got invalidated?

>>538668868
they just need to making vexing bolt a bit easier to use and tone down scaling a bit to compensate, that's about it

>>538668615
Mina used to be one of the hardest characters to master. After the buffs she's easy as shit. Now she procs all her bullshit pretty easily and it's safer than ever with the CD reduction. They needed to drag her skillfloor to the underground so coomers could have a chance of playing her instead of masturbating alone. Fuck them all.

>>538669190
total mina player death. i dont play the character but everyone on my team always makes it my problem

>>538669137
I hope whoever made a bunch of ''support'' paige builds gets hardware banned from every valve game.
This and I've yet to see a single Mina who isn't a feeding fuck. Buffs don't matter when the average Mina player is the issue.

>>538669141
I don't want them to touch bolt's execution. The high skill ceiling justifies the damage from a balance perspective. If bolts are trivial then it 100% needs to be nerfed. I don't want that. You either got the hands to hit them so you can deal 700 spirit damage, or you don't. Fuck noobs.

>>538668868
They'll like him more when they add an animation for his escape that makes him jump in his hat

feel like ive played 10 games in a row where we lost from team comps alone, when the fuck are we getting picks

>>538668993
I assume not since it also gives spirit resist and only applies de amp on enemies. just tested it on the playground

>seven winrate is 54.4
>ivy winrate is 54.3

UH OH IVY SHITTERS UHHHHH NERFS ARE COMING

S E V E N
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V
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>>538666194
ESC and on the right u can click microphone icons.

>>538669408
That'd be funny lol.
I urge to see Sinclair being fully fleshed out like the last DLC characters. I wonder what his reloading animation will be. Maybe they can give him procedural animations for when redirecting bolt he moves his hand towards the direction you pointed the bolt to. Bunnies are currently placeholder as well.

>>538669350
is this why every paige on my team goes support build? (i lose) and every paige on the enemy team goes full damage (i also lose)

>>538669390
I think the real Sinclair issue is that he essentially has 3 ults and a powerful poke. Its the Terrorblade situation all over again
>allow one skill to be strong and the rest of his kit might as well not matter since you can build around it
>nerf all skills and suddenly he is underpowered
And then Sinclairs actual ult is very comp dependent so you add all complications stemming from this fact to the mix.

>>538669819
yes, the playerbase is made of retards following only top rated builds. paige shits out damage whether spirit or gun. I don't know why they go double barrier when they can just KILL EVERYONE

>>538669819
Niggers seriously bought into the ''muh girl/tranny support player'' meme when she is a braindead AOE nuker. As if we didn't have enough of those already, really the most pointless hero in the game.

>>538669478
Run Ivy! The nerfbat is coming!

>>538669968
She is really good with certain active items though, I just don't know why people always get divine barrier on her though. Vortex web and knockdown seem like much better uses of money on her since they combo with her 1 and 3 so well.

>>538669819
>>538670079
>>538669968
False. Support Paige is how you win.

>>538670079
retardo damage, good follow up cc, self peel, and people think this is a support because it’s a woman????

>>538669859
Last patch they nerfed bolt and buffed assistant. They seem to aknowledge what you say by buffing other abilities rather than nerfing his strongest.

I don't find many flaws to his ultimate, i guess every character 4 is useful to some degree. His worse pick is 100% haze but that's it, usually ultimates are one of the most useful skills with any character. I'd rather have this than a specific ultimate for Sinclair. Leads to more versatility and usefulness to the team since it allows you access to a bunch of overpowered abilities that 100% should'nt obtainable in any legal match. To me this is the most interesting character gameplay-wise ATM.

>>538669478
that clearly means we must nerff shiv again, just to be sure

>>538670261
sorry, I mis-typed, what I meant to say was.
Support Paige is how you let the enemy team win

>>538668579
Turbocucked by his shitty team*

>>538670537
pretty sure people think it is a support because of the 2 being a shield and the 4 having a heal

>>538670690
the shiv nerfs will continue until morale improves

>>538669478
Meanwhile in Eternus

Hoy shit Sinclair with wraight's neon prime skelly is tough as hell.

>>538671032
tight

>when you are literally the only one pushing objectives
>meanwhile team is brooling and losing
>and feeding a Drifter
I will never climb ranks with people like this.

>>538670873
yes yes, that’s all well and good, but the best way to support your team is by killing the enemy team. no damage to heal if there is no enemy

>>538670261
Win the ''ruined the game for your team'' award

>>538669117
Use some context next time.

>>538670698
>>538671128
No, I'm serious. There are more effective spirit nukers than Paige, but nobody is better than her at supporting. Support is her strongest role by far. Support Paige still builds spirit items and deal decent damage even without taking her team's farm. On the other hand spirit nuker Paige is greedy, hogs all the farm, only to be a generic subpar nuker that is already common in this game.

>>538671246
yes so this goes right back to the original point of, permaban paige. just so my stupidass team doesn’t pick the cutesy waifu just to tingle their penises

>>538671001
turns out that you need to do more than give a hero a free fleetfoot in order for it to be good

>>538671246
most players are retarded and don't understand power and economy distribution
they'll pick shit characters like paige that have a low power ceiling, play a passive farming game, vacuum up all the space and resources, then rage when the enemy infernus washes them

>>538671656
This. Anyone who unironically says "Paige is better as a carry" is outing themselves as people who can't carry and need to be carried by a freaking Paige.

>>538667818
>>538668252
what would I be giving up for these greens though

>>538671656
when are the devs going to dumpster infernus

>>538669137
i've been into gothic vampire chicks since before you even even sentient

>>538671001
eternus ivys just suck, it's mostly stackers at that elo

>>538671001
where the fuck are you getting that

give miku 3 stam

>>538672320
Just buy superior stamina.

>send their Victor to brazil with door/cart
>give their fed ass Wraith a room at the Baroness
>win the fight
I've finally found my hero. I know beyond a shadow of a doubt that Doorman is /myguy/.

>>538672382
fuck you

>>538671894
get rid of weighted rounds and sell backstabber when you're out of slots

>>538672464
No, fuck you leatherman.

>>538672143
this will not abscond you of your sins. I can respect appreciating an aesethtic or a vibe but if you’re forcing a shit pick in a team game just go play bots. Or play fighting games

>>538672320
fuck no

>>538672586
>shit pick
she's fine

>>538672551
>>538672716
fuck you both

>>538672732
In your hands perhaps, but I’m assuming you’re not the average Mina

>>538672857
and how do plan on fucking 2 niggas with only 2 stamina bars, fatass????

that's it, im just done playing until they add picks or draft or fucking something, this game is so aids when you lose at the fucking loading screen

>>538670260
Vortex Web and Knockdown are better in most cases, yes. But if your team is being carried hard by a giga-farmed carry, Divine Barrier is insanely OP.

>>538672995
you will regret that

>>538671114
no bro, you don't understand, we must team fight at every single moment, when the other team is not visible on the map we should ask ourselves "where is the other team for a team fight?",

>>538673334
hmmmmm maybe I should I try to farm the enemy jungle at 40 minutes when all towers are down and they have 4 rejuv? why not?

I love playing Deadlock with my boyfriend! he's a great partner in bed and in lane

>>538673492
Me on the right.

>>538673420
oh? 6 enemy heros are taking my patrons first life? heh, fools, urn is free now AND it's on the close side

>>538673492
why isn't that outfit for abrams

>>538671625
They literally took the free Fleetfoot away.

urn is such a shit objective. Win that is winning can... win harder, wow thanks valve!

>>538673619
and she still has a 53% winrate in eternus and is currently top 3 right under seven and ginnis.

HMMMM IVY PLAYERS MUST JUST BE SO SKILLED? ICEFROG WONT DARE NERF IVY AGAIN!

Wait the lizardman and gargoyle are female? They don't look female.

>>538673708
I don't give a shit about Ivy, was just correcting the other guy.

>>538673758
What the fuck do you think a female lizard and gargoyle look like?

>>538673690
team* i was blinded with rage

>>538673690
When you're behind, the submit spot moves closer to your base. In a way it could also work as a comeback mechanic.

post something you're ashamed of

>>538673758
what, you're expecting tits?
lizard is a recolored placeholder from another hero right now

>>538673839
you just want gooners to post porn you sick freak

Cold Front and its consequences have been a disaster for build variety.

>>538674087
*raises paw*

I don't think cold front is that good on victor

>>538674087
they're definitely going to overnerf it to the point where nobody builds it ever

>>538674136
You might be a mentally retarded then, he's one of the few heroes who it isn't redundant to buy on

>>538673960
One time, I played Infernus

>>538674087
I have suggested removing it and just leaving arctic blast as a 6400 item several times now. honestly just remove them both.

>>538667078
Your “T1 Aura of Suffering Slow” did not apply because you waited till the last second to activate it for where it will do 10 dps and slow him for a millisecond before he gets his 50% slow resistance diarrhea trail
The coon is overtuned but you had full hp most of the fight and should have let it ramp up. You probably wouldve killed him with that

>>538674221
SHAME

>>538674210
arctic blast is OK, but anyone with a brain is going to immediately move away from victor. unlike abrams or mo, he doesn't have a wall stun or a knock or even a yamato point n click to immediately combo with either.

I much prefer slowing hex for screwing over single targets

>>538673758
How many guys named Ivy do you know?

seven
haze
nigfernus
victor
sinclair

any other heroes that the game would be better off without?

>>538673960
still fun tho ding ding

>>538667078
>
>
>
You don't have enduring speed. There's also no way you're complaining about Infernus when Victor hard cucks him probably the hardest out of any hero in the game. Every time I played Victor enemy Inferni could not flame dash out of my aura's range because of how weak to slows it is

>>538674379
holliday

>>538674379
why did you post my top played

>>538673758
ivy is very clearly female, specially because of her voice
vyper is obviously female from her voice but her current model is dogshit and a placeholder

>>538674379
drifter. I fucking hate his ult

>>538673334
didn't read

>>538673960
>Went to check my Abrams stats cause I thought they'd be real bad
>17 games with 8 wins
You know what, not as bad as I thought

So wraith and miku are the only two who even consider building capacitor right? Also how come whenever I get up after taking a shit does a little bit of piss trickle out of my dick, no matter how many times I waggle my dick for excess pee it doesn't come out until I get up how do I stop this from happening?

>>538675104
amerimutts are illiterate brown subhumans so that was to be expected

>>538674565
wtf you talking about could not dash out of your aura? are you retarded? it's only a 30% slow faggot, he can easily dash the fuck out of your 8m aura range with 1 fucking dodge you retarded faggot

vindcta just killed charlie cuck on whatever his name was.

>>538675189
Your body has limiters installed to prevent you from pissing into the air while you take a shit with morning wood t. My father works for Nintendo

>>538675189
its good for haze, ivy, and vyper (lol) too
you're just aging, eat more fruit

>>538675230
yea idk what that guy is talking about infernus doesn't care about victor unless he has slowing hex/knockdown

>>538674379
mo and krill
viscous
calico

>>538673960
I think it's because I stopped building Lifestrike

>>538674379
Abrams
Vindicta
Ivy

dash infernus is so stupid and worthless but i can't stop smiling when i play it

>>538672307
Its all matches since the most recent balance patch.
Her win rate cratered after they nerfed Siphon because it was the main thing keeping gun ivy strong

>>538673960
I'm initiate 1, shame is an alien concept.

>>538676825
>siphon bullets kept ivy strong
>not her melting objectives almost immediately or having the best rotation in the game after the second set of teleports were removed

uh huh

>>538676521
How do you build dash specificly?
Isn't it better to just build hybrid spirit/gun?

>>538677132
You might not be as bad as you think you are depending on your winrate, rank distribution is completely fucked atm and climbing is incredibly slow

>doorman ult the almost full health 9/1 enemy wraith (who is 12k above the next person) mid-teamfight so we can focus the shitter haze and lash
>drifter gets on mic for the first time in the game and with his swarthy central european voice says "hey doorguy don't ult someone I'm about to kill next time okay?"
>"how about you don't feed her like a retard in lane?"
>later on in the match I watch as 3 orange icons move towards him while he mindlessly farms and makes no effort to leave the area to avoid the imminent gank
>continue doing sinners and let him die so he malds on the mic for the next 2 minutes
>ends the game 3/11 with 10k player damage and 0 obj damage (it was a 35 minute game)
Why are drifter players like this?

>bad wave clear speed
>bad harass
>bad brooling potential before 15k souls
is wraith actually honest

>>538677570
bwo he said initiate 1
if he's played more than 10 hours he IS that bad

>>538677570
that doesn't look fucked at all
it SHOULD be a bell curve

>>538668002
Name a more useless 1

>>538677570
Thank you, but I am as bad as it gets. Think 10k player damage, double digits deaths per matches, no impact on teamfights, consistent only as the worst player out of 12. A proud /dlg/ representative.

if you duo with your wife is it called wedlock

>>538677952
vyper's screwjab dagger

>>538659093 (OP)
I have a question, if Haze was summoned in her dream form, how the fuck is she gonna get a wish from the patron

>>538678095
Is a slow, and on low enough cooldown for mercurial reload / magnum if needed.
Scarabs is too long cooldown for that

>>538678093
If you queue for 5 minutes and can't find a match it's called gridlock

>>538677242
The numbers dont lie

getting smurfed on is about 8/10 on the gay scale
i'd rate it a 10/10 but i feel like there might be something worse i haven't experienced yet

NERF VINDICTA SHE JUST FUCKING ONE TAPPED MY LASH

>>538678541
another nerff to Shiv coming right up, as requested

>>538678463
have you run into an aim botter holliday maxing crack shot?

>>538675597
I'm only 26....

Why are people in these threads fixated on rank so much? Just keep playing and you'll end up at the rank your skill level warrants. People are like "Ohh I played 10 games and I'm not Diamond yet" like why does it matter to you that much?

>>538678241
scarabs reduce targets resists and make mirage tankier
It's usually about a 200 hp swing on the target hit, 100 stolen hp at max upgrade, or more like 50 at base
dagger does 100 hp on a shorter cooldown... the slow lasts only one second

>>538678390
No way Ivy was crutching this hard on single item. You are oversimplifying things somehow.

>>538678541
>whistles*

there are a lot of stackers now, is anyone as fun as bomb bebop? haven't played in a while

>>538678620
no seriously my Lash was just sitting in lane and Vindicta came out of nowhere and literally one shot him through the neck.

>>538678686
because the ranks are obviously not working properly due to the influx of new players, so matches are usually one sided by one team having semi-competent players and the other having player with almost zero hour on the game.

>>538678843
>is anyone as fun as bebop?
No, none of the stackers are as fun as Bebop. This round of stackers fucking sucks.

>click on soul orb
>it doesn't register and i don't get the deny
yoshi fix your shit

>>538678823
GET THE FUCK DOWN FROM THERE
>*Drops an anvil on you*

>>538678686
Zoomoids are extremely performative please understand.

>>538678663
damn unc....

>>538678943
you need to wait till it glows

>>538678860
Was your Lash down 40k souls by any chance

>>538678860
I understand, another nerf to Vyper coming right up.

>>538678843
debuff remover just rapes bombop. you're kinda forced to go gun or tank

>>538678686
because one month of 60% winrate (even on the new hero) should not just move me from mid alchemist to mid arcanist only
I want to be able to play non-late game hypercarry heroes

>enemy laners are mina and lash
I hate it

>>538678860
>>538678620
>>538678823
If only my fucking Viscuous could've helped my lane...
RIP Lash

Can't wait for the tourist nomoba shitters who type the whole game to stop playing already. Game's genuinely unplayable when the retards on your team have the minimap disabled, play on your side of the map while winning constantly and prolonging games you could have won 30 minutes ago

>>538679164
Win rates aren't going to be an accurate indicator of skill with how wide the matchmaking is. Are you winning against people way below you? Not gonna climb very much.

>>538679134
you can just put the bombs on yourself and stand near them

>>538679358
are you really going to dickride this fuck ass system like matchmaking/mmr is not a slugfest

>>538679134
Debuff Remover is the nothing burger when you can just LARP as a jihadist, the real issues that cuck Bebop are Spellbreaker and Ethereal Shift
>jump into enemy team with bombs strapped to your chest
>the actually important target just negates it with one of 2 said items
>you die for free with zero precise timing needed

>>538679219
Why did she do it?

>>538675429
she didn't get any bonus souls because he's a soulless pig :((

>>538679670
Reddit's 2 doors down.

>>538679219
She's a witch

>>538679219
this is FOUL, dawg...

>>538679048
Nah he had cultist sacrifice and millions of souls

>>538679774
lmao pearlclutching on 4chan. Over a zionist even.

>>538679850
Guess he should've spent some of them

>>538679774
yeah, you can go back anytime given you're well acquainted with the site.

>>538679012
i do and it still doesn't recognize i'm clicking on it

>>538679869
I assumed you were calling him a soulless pig for being right-wing at all. If your angle was him sucking off Israel, then that's my mistake friend. Carry on.

>>538680041
implying there's a difference

>>538680041
>Charlie defender is a pedophile
it really does make you think

>>538680097
There is actually. Being right-wing is a good thing. Being a shabbos goy is not.

>>538678390
>under 200 matches

not a strong sample size desu. ivy from archon to eternus has 4.4k matches with a "just under seven" winrate.

RAVENBROS???????

People blatantly fucking lie in this general about how good some heroes are and how supposedly balanced their shitter of choice is.

>>538680314

were fucking back ruskies

>>538680324
your average ivy shitter is not beyond lying

>>538674379
i realy hate sinclair. he just does so much fucking damage. even if i get spirit shielding he just shoots his missiles again. you cant get close to him when that fucker sits on the bridge

>>538675230
Flame dash you retard

>>538680314
So Slork and Raven survived?

>>538680530
>ivy out of no where
obsessed

>>538680617
you're the fucking retard lying sack of shit who doesn't even play Victor, never has and you're making up shit like the faggot you are
>30% will really do something to 20m/s

>>538680725
>>538680725
No, grey is the generic hero background, and that's an old pose from a different angle.
Slork got voicelines for the new heroes but Raven may have been folded into priest.

Hopoo, Valve, where is my farmer lost in the big city hero? Possible abducted by aliens motif.

Get off your butts and do something about it. I need to throw vegetables and secure my enemies in the Pen (tm) like the cattle they are.

>>538673960
is this OK

>>538681961
its average for that character

>>538681961
highest WR Vyper player.

vyper is either useless or absolutely stomping, nothing in between

>>538681947
would a farmer abducted by aliens want to fight and die for a talking orb that needs you for a ritual or just hitch a ride back home?

>>538667078
It's extremely hard to tell for sure but it looks like infernus has 10k on you and you're mad that you almost solo'd him? without even using aura for most of the fight????

You also have fucking frenzy and luike the other anon pointed out took way too long to activate aura which would give you the move speed you wanted to get frenzy buffs

>>538674087
They won't change cold front and it will be a less useful item when the jungle update comes and makes cold front useless against half the camps spirit resist

>>538681947
>farmer hero
>uses a boomstick
thats all i got

>>538681947
Isn't there a character named Druid in the files?

Would a funneling strat with a teammate farming unsecured souls to suicide them to his teammate be possible? Are there heroes that can clear the jungle in a timely manner while being behind in farm?

>>538678942
ty for the quick response
I hate that...I fucking love stacking heroes in mobas
talon feels great rn besides how weak drone strike is in lane, but that's a good trade for a team wipe owl

>>538682861
mcginnis comes to mind but she's dead weight without souls

>>538677623
why is the nigger character played by niggers, a nigger?
a mystery will we never know the answer to

>>538682861
victor could focus entirely on his stink aura and pull it off

>>538673960
I cannot wrap my head around denying as Doorman his bullets seem to bug out when I hit a orb or I'm placed against someone with a machingun like Ivy or Seven

>>538682861
Ivy, but this sounds retarded because you'd be giving death gold to the enemies which would always be a net loss just to drop your bag for your teammate.

>>538663997
Goo ball max

>>538682189
Definitely to hitch a ride back home

>>538682556
>>538682645
Druid might fit, but I imagine it's not what I'm thinking.

I imagine he could have a kit that's alien in nature, borrowed or given to by his captors. Half of it farmer abilities, other half tech gadgets.

Our shiv sucked major balls and farmed the whole game, many such cases. I feel bad for mina

What is actually the general lore of Deadlock? What the fuck is going on?

>>538683070
victor would have to throw away his ult to donate his souls to the carry so that's definitely a non-starter

>>538677623
mostly retards play noobstomp heroes
if it's a drifter, haze or vindicta it's going to be a genuine 80 iq retard behind the wheel 90% of thetime

is it intentional that Billy stops shooting when he jumps? feels like a weird bug. all the other characters ive tested havent done it.

>>538683189
>accuse him of farming all game
>he has top assists
>he's not even that rich
a LIKELY story

>>538683329
you also can't parry during the jump start up frames, it says "can't parry, busy"
it's fucking retarded how much jumping fucks you in this game.

>>538683268
the strategy is going to result in a hero being dead half of the time anyway, since last patch added a +10 seconds to respawn timers that have no assists

>>538683439
>last patch added a +10 seconds to respawn timers that have no assists
damn

>>538683329
I think it's the new animation system vs the old one, only a handful of heroes are using AG2 right now and it has minor gameplay differences because of how it handles animation blending.

>>538663997
>pedotroon
>is a retard

>>538663997
if I get an odd number at the end of my post this guy's a riot games employee trying to downplay the game that's gonna push their shit into the dirt

>>538683254
The supernatural always existed in the world of Deadlock, but only when an eclipse triggered an event known as the Maelstrom near the end of the 19th century, which opened Astral Gates across the Earth, did the world at large accept it wasn't just myth.

Now, 50 years later, two Patrons, the Amber Hand and the Sapphire Flame, are trying to enter this plane, promising to fulfill the wish of anyone that helps them by completing the ritual. The ritual includes two teams fighting each other in a battle in the streets of the Cursed Apple, trying to prevent the other team from summoning their patron.

>>538683707
Fake and gay.

Nice game

>>538683373
Yeah he still showed up but super late, if he was our vanguard and executed people earlier we probably would have won.

>>538683876
close enough
chad walk miku ginnis

muting the stream every time puckett talks

>>538684134
We're making space for you not our fault you can't carry, biiiiiitch

I'm gonna try grey talon for the first time today. Any tips?

>>538684358
You die if anyone gets close to you

>>538684358
Birdmaxxing is fun but very suboptimal.
Charged shotmaxxing is boring but very powerful.
Pick your poison.

>>538684358
get surge of power and be good at aiming your 1 otherwise youre gonna get RAPED and not in a good way

>>538684358
If you stay on the ground, you're dead

What deadlock hero would charlie kirk play, he got 1 shot by vindicta ult so probably a squishy one

>>538683707
>trying to downplay the game that's gonna push their shit into the dirt
yes anon, Riot is sending shills to this dead general to kill this massively successful game.

Is building Gun and building around Gray Talon's multi-shot jump thing any good? I need something other than BRRT McGinnis, starting to get a bit bored.

>>538683881
what even is shivs role in a team fight? i honestly dont know
t. 300 hours ON SHIV

>>538683747
Gotcha, so a "the game is canon" sort of setting.

i love this little nigga like you wouldn't believe

>>538684629
Charlie Kirk would play Drifter because he loved to ambush lone libtards with facts and logic

>>538684670
knife build waits it out and gets escalating exposure

green punchy man build runs in and causes chaos

gun guy plays close behind cover and tries to pick off execute asap then retreats

Haven't played shiv since a year ago though, didnt like how they gutted his execution range he feels too hit or miss without that tool

>>538684629
Gray Talon, he stayed on the ground and is now dead because of it

>>538684670
>>538684864
forgot my pic for shiv bro

Buy debuff resist
Buy Blood Tribute (on Shiv)

>Dummy 1
No resist - 2.77 sec
>Shiv 1
Debuff resist (30% resist) - 1.88 sec
>Shiv 3
Blood tribute only (50% debuff resist) - 1.38 sec
>Shiv 3
Debuff remover + Blood trib + spell breaker (idk, like 65-70% debuff resist? doesn't tell you the actual math with trib active) - .78 sec

Seriously it cannot be understated how good 50% debuff resist is. I've done some testing and UNFORTUNENTLY debuff resist ONLY affects duration of abilities but seriously it can't be understated how cutting ANY debuff timer in HALF really fucks over so many characters/builds. This will add a SHOCKING amount of survivability i'm telling you guys. Make an infernus' superior duration completely ineffective vs you.

Blood tribute works with shivs deferred damage so in reality shiv is only draining 24 health per second with bloodletting t2 and the deferred damage is partially counteracted by your regen and obviously bloodlettings active. Through in radiant regen to give you stronger regen in a fight + healing you when you use actives (including blood letting itself). Very underrated

>>538684658
How's Riots Deadlock clone coming along?

>>538684658
damn.... its still alive unlike riot forge
LMAO

Calikino.

>>538684658
171k peak for a unreleased half finished half baked game is great numbers man what are you on about?

>>538685318
Been learning her today, she's really fun but I still have a lot of limit testing to do kek

>>538675429
A fat dysgenic boomer did it so it was actually gun dynamo.

>>538663997

Are you new to MOBAs? Most carries build the same, you pick them for their toolkit / the situation you see. Same as supports, they build mostly the same. Its about cahracter toolkit and personal skill and growth, you fucking cretin.

>>538685846
The issue is their kits/gameplay being same-y as hell, idiot.

>>538685048
Infernus test
>trib - 5 ticks = 121 dmg (trib adds like 10% spirit resist)
>debuff - 7 ticks = 185 dmg
>nothing - 10 ticks = 269 dmg
and this is just from Infernus with no spirit investment beyond duration and max level. With real spirit investment, EVERY tick matters. Especially very late game when he picks up Escalating Exposure to make every additional tick hurt more and more
>But you're not counting the damage from blood tribute!!!
If blood tribute was activated immediately upon getting hit with afterburn, you would take roughly 64~ health. Add that to do the total damage from afterburn and it's equal to debuff remover but again this is an infernus without serious spirit investment or other damage amps, the 64 health trade will save you a lot more damage later into the game

>three british Drifters today with absolutely 0 contribution but just talking shit in chat
where do these retards get their ego

>>538685946
Debuff resist does nothing against Infernus since 99.9% of his damage comes from a debuff that constantly reapplies itselfs on a giant AoE floor. Most debuffs that actually hurt in this game are ground based giant AoE's that reapply themselves.

>>538685894
But they aren't? Read a tooltip once in your life.

>>538685968
You say British but I'm guessing from what you said they were infact, English. Yes the English are British too, but try not to lump 3 other countries into this, please?

The teammates matchmaking puts me with. Yes we lost.

>>538686171
Yeah, those, whatever

>>538686235
half the mcginnis players i see do the same shit, despite both of them having a decent gun

>>538686235
I've seen worse, there are at least 2 debuffs here.

>>538686235
>baseballgolfps2
lmao

>>538685301
>How's Riots Deadlock clone coming along?
Why would they steal a failed concept?

>Want to be a hypermobile Drifting™ between lanes, terrorizing any soul who dares to approach any camp
>Ennemy team brool 24/7 so i'm just forced to be a lane janny or a bruiser at best
It sucks man

>>538677771
They reset the rankings at some point during the year for accounts that didn't play for some months but in their great wisdom there's no placement games for them so Initiate I is now an absolute shitfest with an insane skill range.

>>538686235
spirit ivy is good that build is just ass
this is how you make

>>538673960
my winrate is positive only on seven

How come some people after game screen shows rank? mine doesn't

>>538687398
you have to enable it in the settings

HEY DYNAMO PRESS 4

WHEN IM DIVING AS VICTOR AND I HAVE ULT JSUT FUCKING WALK IN PRESS 4 EASY LANE

fucking retards everywhere

>>538686115
just jump lol

Also blood tribute gives you a lot of base movement speed so it's effective even against that as far as trying to walk out of it

>>538687097
does mystic slow add more slow to her kudzu?

>>538686768
stole autochess and that died within the year

>>538681961
Ur doin great sweetie

>>538687846
it stacks but is diminishing

>>538685529
>the game dying twice in alpha is actually a good thing
there are 3.5 million people who have access to deadlock right now, 1% of them play the game

>>538687932
That was Valve and Underlords, lmao

The black wοman of Valve unοriginality.
These are TWΟ different characters.

>>538687586
>just jump lol
retarded opinion discarded didn't read the rest

>>538688272
>there are 3.5 million people who have access to deadlock right now, 1% of them play the game
ok?

>>538687846
no it reduces your move speed by 50%

what exactly do you do laning as drifter vs characters with big spirit nukes? your guns near melee range means that you instantly give up souls if you don't stand 2 miles behind the fight or eat 30%
>stop pushing the lane up
even when I literally tell my partner to do this they still don't

>>538688610
I hope the furfags win and calico gets turned into a cat woman

I have no way to prove it, but i know one of the top guy in Valve have a thing for black chicks, dating back to HL1.

>>538688272
there are 8 billion people with access to league of legends. Less than 0.2% of them play.

>>538690050
i wanted to play non-RTS dota arcade modes so bad but they were all perpetually dead or broken
deadlock was made for me

>>538690050
one day modders will figure out how to port dota characters to deadlock
I live for that day

all nigger doorman players will burn in hell

hey. USE YOUR GUN. if they're a drifter on the bridge. SHOOT HIM OFF. SHOOT HIM FUCKING RETARD SHOOT HIM

I want a hero with an M1 Garand...

>>538688726
But you did read it numbnuts :)

>>538690326
theyre already been added

https://youtu.be/VkBzKVM_BeQ

GEE WELL IT LOOKS LIKE A TEAM FULL OF ALL CARRIES CAN WORK WHEN ALL OF YOUR TEAMMATES WITH CC (Lash, M&K, Seven, Kelvin) DO ABSOLUTELY NOTHING OF VALUE!!!!!!!! COOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

>>538674379
victor is the only one i think sucks and shouldn't be in the game
ill be shocked if they can find a good balance for him
he'll always be overtuned or undertuned

>>538684629
>likes gun builds
>squishy
>glows
Haze

>>538687489
which one is victor?

>>538688610
Why is Wraith never included in this ritual post? Very rude.

>>538690214
I genuinely cant wait for the community map scene for this game

>>538674379
Bepop.
Give hook to a new character, rest of his kit is unsalvageable. He's either completly awful, walking debuff remover tax or miserable ult-bot

Someone please point me to a youtube channel that's worth watching to learn how to play this game properly. I've played thousands of hours in dota 2 and shooters, but I'm still struggling since a lot of mechanics are map/hero dependent. I was playing mainly pocket last year, and came back for the new heros and been spamming victor.

>>538692481
This but unironically. Either put hook on somebody else or make his bomb a thrown projectile. It's so worthless in it's current state cause even if you just strap bombs to yourself and leap in, people can just buy Spellbreaker or Ethereal Shift and fuck you over with little to no timing needed.

>>538692481
bebop is fine but i agree his hook is kind of wasted on him, they could add it to another person as well

>>538692481
Bebop can just self bomb or ally bomb anyway. Overblown issue

>>538667078
bro.... your slowing hex.....

ava is cute

>named victor
>doesn't win the game
why are they like this

>>538667078
yeah I don't get what this guy is complaining about you almost killed him and caught up to him after he used MULTIPLE flame dashes where as half the cast have uncounterable super duper blinks and mobility slides that could have escaped you even easier. Very strange thing to complain about but the clip is pretty infuriating so I'll give you that lol

>>538694174
if only she was a normal cat...

>>538667078
dude you cannot gank infernus without silence or slowing hex or knockdown etc

is seven overpowered?

>>538667078
you see dat shit? hehehe...

>>538667080
you need spirit items he is a spirit/gun hybrid

>>538680314
What are those spell icons?

is it just me or is drifter like one of the worst laners in the game?
every single time i get this retard as my lane partner he does nothing.

>>538694803
>shotgun hero with zero movement abilities aside from one that forces you to engage
>low damage until he gets stacks
Yea he's bad in lane.

>>538677952
drifter rend

>>538677952
Calico's bombs before T3

>>538694803
sort of
drifter attracts a lot of overly aggresive tards who end up feeding
but he also doesn't have a free kill ult button or any cc, so early fights can be problematic depending on lane comp

>>538694803
he's alright if they wave isnt being pushed into his tower because he can do some solid trading from his current % hp damage

>4 minute queue for a game
>guy dcs at start
>5 minutes for him to finally abandon
>4 minute queue for a game

>>538690050
so that's why they added stamina system

>>538693301
Since you guys are gonna be so shy about sharing info I'll just watch metro's guides

>>538695398
ANON NO

>>538694046
>No, situation isn't bad, it's actually worse!
The fact that he's a Spellbreaker tax instead is not the point you were looking for

How do I make Victor do anything?

>>538695613
First time playing an online game with hooks, huh?

just had a game where someone ran it down for 35 minutes after getting ganked once at 4 minutes (because our team took the enemy's guardian and they rotated to a different lane)

>>538696554
No, hook is only part of Bepop that is alright.
It's him strapping nuclear bombs onto you, candles and himself from the start that is the problem.
The uppercut is clunky and stupid and ult is completly detached from everything else.
People complain about Mirage, but his kit is consistent compared to Bepop's.

>>538696590
had some retard like that as well, he just farmed all game after losing his lane, game lasted 30 mins regardless of him afk in the jungle

I know I'm not exactly a crackshot, but what am I missing with this girl? Feels like even my ult is tickling them, I'm a just flying pylon

>>538684665
Nevermind, don't fucking do this. This shit sucks worse than Gun McGinnis. You just get hosed down out of the air by literally everything in existence and can't beat anyone 1v1 unless they're insanely behind and terminally retarded to the point they can't shoot a practically stationary airborne target. There's no reason to run this over just picking some full auto BRRT gun character and building Split Shot.

>>538697191
She's the worst character in the game.
You're a brick on your team because Icefrog nerfed her to shit.

>>538695398
do you seriously need a guide on how to play victor?
you just walk in when you're strong with your aura turned on.

>mina ults super high into the air
>doorman walljumps up to her to put her in the dungeon
>be mo and krill
>double jump up to where she comes out and combo her as she comes out
lol
lmao

>>538697337
you can alt-cast rain of arrows to float just above the ground instead of really high up, which makes it slightly more viable for damage

>>538693301
>kill troopers
>don't die
>kill guardians
>don't die
>kill walkers
>don't die
>kill mid boss
>don't die
>kill guardians
>don't die
>kill shrines
>don't die
>drop patron
>don't die
>kill patron
>win
there's one map so how are mechanics map dependent?
what makes mechanics different on one hero to another? having different abilities does not change the kill their ancient first goal of the game.

>>538697819
>>don't die
spotted the k/d farmer who never leaves his side of the map

>>538697819
the pussy dealock player manual.tiff

>>538697191
She is nerfed into abyss. Fucking Drifter has longer damage falloff start range and shorter damage falloff end range.

i haven't played this game in close to a year and picked it up again a few days ago does mina's earlygame suck ass or did i just completely forget how to lane efficiently

>>538697819
not dying in deadlock is actually fairly easy. It is much more difficult to not die while also generating value. Most value in this game requires some level of risk acceptance (unless you're a carry or a support)

>>538698428
you realize drifter's bullets just fucking despawn after a bit, right? his range is awful.

>>538699313
he also has the unique mechanic where if any of his slash connects with the target it deals full damage, and if any of them are touching the head hitbox it counts as a headshot

>>538697727
You're still gonna get hosed down and lose cause Grey Talon can't out DPS anybody. Grey Talon can barely fucking move during his 2 and just gets melted for not being able to move at full speed to dodge shots. You will absolutely land all your shots but still get fucked by anyone that isn't a spell-spammer character or a support cause everything else just hoses you down like a dog cause you can barely fucking move and that extra +30% Lifesteal won't help.

am i the only one who way prefers the old lady geist design/model? the new one looks like a weird mix between old and young and her bottom half is fat. old one looked much more milfy

Yamato is just a better drifter

>>538700578
she's not supposed to be milfy, she kills people to maintain her eternal youth
i liked the old arm better though, new one isn't ghastly enough. also miss the leg window on the dress

>>538700767
yea i know her lore but this new design isn't what i'd call youth either. i'd rather they stick with a face that looks like it's early 30s or something rather than a weird mix between teenager and 50. it'd make more sense for her to be in her 30s anyway given what high society is like

>>538699749
-40% headshot crit tho

man i really need to learn what all the items do so i stop relying on dogshit public builds

>>538697191
i build her for utility with double stake alch fire and just ult when they're below 50% for big damage

Billy is just a better Abrams

Abrams is like Billy but not gay

>>538699313
Doesn't mean it makes sense for a sniper who flies holding a pea shooter at 20m.

Let me put just 3 new characters already. They are no longer new characters.

>>538701023
You WILL buy the skins. You WILL be happy.

>>538701616
what makes billy really much better is his gun. other than that, abrams power-spikes into mid-game pretty well. what billy really has over abrams is chain gang, it's just a fucking strong ult with the right comp

>>538702182
It's wild just how dogshit Abrams' gun is during laning
Later in the game when you can get the jump on people and have the items to keep up, it's damn strong sure
But in lane it's effectively a party popper
I'd gladly replace its M2 zoom with a long range slug alt fire

>Ground pound Seven into the floor when he's ulting
>He clips through the floor and we can't shoot him, but he can shoot us
Thanks Volvo

>>538697034
Skill diff

>>538660403
This is why this game is shit. If its for faggots that dont want to actually dm'ing against people, whats the point of playing a pvp game? Play chess if your so "good at objectives" and get you wont.

>>538703303
>whats the point of playing a pvp game?
MOBAs are the genre you play when you suck ass at everything else

>>538703303
so clicking on a building is like playing a chess game for brooltards, interesting...

its gassy

>>538703303
kills mean nothing
throne means everything

>>538703303
While I dont like splitpushing, strategy is what keeps games fresh. Without it the game would get very repetitive.

>"well I guess a quick Deadlock match wouldn't hurt"
>more than hour
>billy and holliday know how to play and pressure me and Ivy, who is apparently new
>some how we manage to hold the line for so long paradox actually quit and we won

I finally got a team that tried working together even if most of us sucked. We also had a funny little moment where we were able to kill the mid boss, invade their base but the rest of the team forgot they had rejuvenator and just fucked off as soon as the enemy respawned. Doorman was the goat because every time billy ulted he used his ult to fuck with him

This game is so fun when shit works out.

every single character should have an alternate fire

It's funny that dlg retards loves and worship ratting/splitpushing for objectives yet seethes at powerfarming jungle despite both being very low interaction or skill.

>Victor and Seven both don't "come online" until 30k souls
>both basically turn into raid bosses at that point
>Seven is considered OP
>Victor is considered bad
What gives?

>>538703846
pushing objectives makes them leave the jungle, think about it locktard

>>538703846
i come from heroes of the storm so naturally i am a splitpusher at heart

>>538703846
>ratting/splitpushing
wins you the game
>powerfarming jungle
does not win you the game

>go 7-1 as drifter
>lose
>go 2-14 as drifter
>win
HOW THE FUCK DOES THIS KEEP HAPPENING

And they say Doorman can't carry

Why is /dlg/ full of retarded takes? Imagine someone says "I don't wanna plant c4 in CS" or "Pushing payload is boring in TF2".

Holy shit, I finally figured it out...
Victor isn't a tank like M+K or Abrams...
He's not actually even a tank at all until the 30+ minute mark.
He's a farm-bot like Seven or Haze...

Seriously, don't do this shit.
>super present in teamfights
>landing my shots just fine
>but too fucking slow to move with the fight, too slow to chase anybody down to finish the kills off, too slow to avoid all the bullet hose gun characters and you just get melted for being present at all and can't directly out-DPS any of said full auto BRRT characters head-on
>still can't break free of the pack damage-wise at all
Why are both the sniper archetype heroes such useless dogshit?
>build Vindicta with gun items
>if you can aim well enough to pull this off you'd get infinitely more value on literally any other gun character including Gun McGinnis
>her "meta build" is just being a fucking tether-bot that can't actually hurt anyone with said tether or her crow
>Grey Talon's useless cause sentient beings don't just stand around waiting to eat his arrows and will just buy Spellbreaker/Spirit Resilience to completely shaft him anyway and he doesn't just instantly explode a 20 meter radius with one button on a sub-10 second cooldown so there's no reason to pick him over shit like Geist
>and his gun build just gets hosed down by every full auto character in the game while he's floating around
Guess I'm quitting Deadlock again until they release more heroes cause there's literally nothing to break up the monotony with and I'm bored already as a result. Old heroes are still bland and same-y. New heroes are simply uninspired cookie cutter slop I've seen in a bunch of past MOBAs already. See you fags next time.

>>538704208
they enjoy sitting in the "jungle" minute 20 for 10 fucking minutes thinking at the 30 minute mark is now okay to push lanes :)

no they dont push lanes while farming jungle, they stay behind souls hitting jungle while waves die and souls go to the void

>>538704286
he isn't
you're supposed to get into skirmishes with him in mid game because of aura slow + ult. don't afk farm, help your team whenever you can

>>538703918
Wrong, retard. The 100% answer to Bebop with little to no fine timing involved so you can't ever fuck it up-- even when he does the most obscure Majestic Leap approaches humanly possible-- is Spellbreaker or Ethereal Shift.

>people put 3 ability points into Aura of Suffering
>increasing it's dps
>INCREASING IT'S DPS (ALSO TO SELF)
>zero spirit resisitance equiped

lmaoooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo

>>538704378
>help your team
>with an aura that doesn't work yet because it has the range of a light melee, a 2 that can't properly keep you alive yet, and an ult that requires you to die
No.

>>538704504
i don't think you understand a single thing about victor, actually
enjoy your 45% winrate i guess

>>538704476
sounds like you have to spend 3.2k more because you are too shit at parrying to me
there's literally no reason to buy spellbreaker if you can press F, except playing against paradox cuz it's impossible to parry her 3 realistically

>>538704476
>fuck it up
bro parrying is so easy. parrying garbage like singularities, guided owls, combustion, and killing blow makes people seethe

>>538704585
I've won the last 5 games with him now that I've swapped to farmbotting the first 30 minutes of the game.

>abrams charge stun isnt a free heavy
>abrams ult isnt a free heavy
Literally why would I play him over Billy?

is arctic blast even any good? i swear this item feels useless

>yeah chuddy, ratting/splitpushing wins games

>meanwhile, at midboss:
"I AM THE COSMOS"
*glass shatter sound from a stock sound library x3*

Sorry trannies, but we're in a teamfightBVLL meta. At least steal some camps instead of hardpushing like a tard if you're not gonna show up for the most important fight of the game.

>>538704754
Infernal Resilience is always underestimated

>>538704737
i'm sure you have, anon. i'm sure you have

>>538704754
>>abrams charge stun isnt a free heavy
it is THOUGH
>>abrams ult isnt a free heavy
it is THOUGH

>>538704754
stun on demand. while billy can push them forward and up, abrams can travel with them further out of position for a free kill at times. ofc, abrams is a real tank and billy isn't, so he can survive abuse and win games because dumb players waste everything on him

>>538704618
>>538704694
Neither of you are on that shit where you land the parry every time when it actually matters. The other people reading your posts aren't either and shouldn't take your advice when there are guaranteed options that take zero effort and zero real timing to counter Bebop properly with.

>>538704784
its my doorman and lash must buy

*runs past huge wave at our walker to chase an enemy that has superior mobility*
clean it up lane janny

>>538704959
i feel like just staying on cold front and selling it late game when you need space is 10x better

>>538704913
i can parry blind folded with the idiot going for whiff heavy, get good

>>538704913
>beeping gets faster
>hit f
>parry it
wow that was really difficult man you're right. i also can't imagine an apple in my head just like you

>>538704959
>lash must buy
in what fucking world?

>>538705030
>angry wojak paige.png

Watched funny bebop streamer buying veil walker and just constantly dipping into veil, walking up to lane opponents, bombing, then running away, repeating over and over. Looked very fun, gotta get good at self bombing

>int into every fight possible
>splitpushtranny spamming retreat over and over
is there a better feeling broolCHADS

billy is literally me with a goat head mask on

will Deadlock be the first Valve game to not feature the legacy Half-Life theme when launching the game? even DotA 2 has it.
https://youtu.be/DdcdeS9kzFo
https://youtu.be/Xwqw7O0IU-0
https://youtu.be/iq4xGdT0C00

>>538705361
McGinnis has a red valve on her backback

>>538704208
>both of those
involve fighting other players
>shooting towers
involves left clicking at a glorified wall while you hide behind creeps so you take no damage

>>538705923
>enemy has no players to defend towers

people really are just completely allergic to exerting the bare minimum level of map pressure by pushing creep waves up

>>538705361
Does Underlords have it?

>>538706051
exactly, fighting the enemy over the objective is fun, giving the objective itself a lifebar does nothing except make the game take 20 more minutes to finish. imagine if it took the entire team 5 straight minutes to plant C4, that's deadlock.

>>538704815
Damn, I love getting poked for 200 damage in lane and only getting
*checks notes*
26 health back after 20 seconds of hiding

>female samurai
>female sheriff
>female mechanic
>female assassin
>female sniper
>female mob

>>538706242
>He doesn't know planting and defusing c4 takes time and you need to play c4 for 20 rounds a match.

>>538706143
nobody played it so nobody knows.

people really are just completely allergic to taking the 85% winrate objective at 10 minutes.

>>538706242
>imagine if it took the entire team 5 straight minutes to push payload, that's tf2

this item has a hidden stat where it makes the game 55% more fun to play

>>538703303
overwatch player opinion. war is strategy, peabrain. think bigger.

>>538706368
Based and all sexo
Homos would never understand

>>538688272
desire it to fail all you want, the steamcharts for an unmarketed closed beta will never provide you the definitive data you need to convince anyone (or even yourself) that the game has no potential for success

>>538707003
we don't even know what the samurai looks like

>>538707138
if the reception to mina and paige was any indication she'll be following that trend

>>538707183
>chun-li thigh exposure
hnnngggg

>>538706772
Genuinely though
The "top tier" builds that ignore fucking movespeed are absolute cancer to play

>>538707120
>wait for the big marketing campaign
anon valve hasn't marketed a game since portal

Am I failing to remember how trigonometry works or should abrams not be being hit here if it's 18m reach?

>>538707415
I suppose you could call the international's big prize at the time was an advertisement for dota2
It really brought a lot of eyes to the game

holy fucking shit guys someone just shot john hathorne turn on the scrying orb it doesn't matter which channel

What are the odds we're getting an official reveal trailer of Deadlock at The Game Awards?

they nerfed the stakebot playstyle and I now have to actually play the game...

>>538707770
just another djinn falseflag

>>538707770
they're saying the shooter had long range and headhunter

>>538707770
They're gonna have to remove that Vindicta line about shooting Hathorne in a college campus

>>538708114
it's a perfectly good plotline but they're probably strongly considering it lol

When will we get a singing hero?

>>538708471
I believe in Cadence/Succubus supremacy

>>538708471
wait for cadence

>>538708015
Highly unlikely.

Any rumours about valve revealing something at these industry shows are usually started and spread by the host themselves to attract attention to their show.

>>538708351
Nah it's kinda cringe when your character keeps talking about a literally who. Reducing it to 1 or 2 sentence is better.

>>538708796
it's almost certainly going to be the plot of her VN, what she decides to do about Hathorne

I hate every single person who plays this game, which 3 heroes should I learn to cause maximum seethe?

So now that the dust is settled, beta ETA predictions?

>>538708870
mo n krill
doorman
viscous

>>538708837
I was thinking about this would be kino of the VN had a story for each hero, and at some point in the story they reach the turning point for wanting the patron's help, then you have to win a game of deadlock as that character to progress in the VN, and then you get to see what happens after that character gets their wish

>>538708961
that is probably exactly what the plan is

>>538708837
They should unlock those voice lines only after completing VN.

Some of you fags take way too long to exit the baroness
The fuck are you doing in there?
Ordering ubereats?

>>538709156
Sometimes nature calls brother

>>538709156
Prepping my Warden ult to nuke you

>>538709280
But i ulted you exactly because you had ulted

>>538709156
I mashed counterspell while you sent me in, so I didn't get the "exit the baroness" debuff
I will take no damage from it, but I'm stuck for the full duration

>>538709156
Quick piss break

You know its kind of depressing to think about how i'm very likely higher rank than 80% of the people that post here when i'm emissary 6

>sit in the back spamming barriers and heals as Paige
>nobody bought antiheal
>35k healing
They must've been seething

>>538709156
They're offering a complimentary continental breakfast
I'm EATING some complimentary continental breakfast

Viscous if he was female

>>538709156
Timing my cube.

>>538706897
funny enough i bet OW players feel the exact same about val/CS players

>up against Infernus Paige MoKrill
>Our retard Abrams and Haze feed the Paige Infernus lane
>Our retard Billy and Seven feed the Warden and MoKrill lane
>Somehow hold against Mina and Viper
>Their Warden disconnects
>We actually have a shot
>Push their towers and kill both shrines
>They still keep wiping us in team fights because Abrams is a retard and Haze is probably an inbred
>We still have all our Walkers at least
>Their Warden reconnects
>They get mid boss
>They team wipe us again
>They push all lanes
>Kill our walkers
>Then our shrines
>Then our patron
>Abrams ends the game 6/11/1, Haze 1/11/4, Billy 0/13/5, Seven 08/7
I don't know what pisses me off more the overpowered nigger heroes on the enemy team or the retard faggots on my team that fed them

>>538709156
Atomizing at the last split second.

>>538709841
We need a slime hero who actually slimes...

We need a clown hero with a very annoying kit

Thank you for sating my curiosity.

We need this embodiment of sex yesterday

>>538706486
which is?
if your team is losing fighting for urn is fucking stupid

>>538710430
already in game

>>538709156
I ONLY HAVE TWO DASHES OKAY AND I DASHED AWAY FROM THE BELL SO NOW I CAN'T DASH-JUMP (i'd mess up the timing anyways)

The tiniest loss streak gives you the most heavy handed rank drop, my god. Had a fucking 6 game win streak and went up one rank, lost 7 games in a row and went down FOUR RANKS WHAT THE FUCK

>paige ivy vs infernus mina
That was not a fun lane

Miragebros... Are we trying to hide our baldness?

>>538711601
suppressor or spirit shielding

>>538712026
With
what farm?

>>538711273
That's not a clown + his kits not annoying enough. I want shaco and old techies.

Jesus fucking christ Doorman is so much motherfucking fun
Nothing like witnessing an enemy Wraith teleport away at low HP and walking through a door just to punch her in the face

This hero lets you play with fucking looney-tunes logic, its amazing

>team mate says ez after winning
>enemy mo and krill says "you didn't do anything what do you mean ez"
I fucking hate mo and krill they're so fucking annoying this dude played super aggressive the whole game

>>538706130
sometimes your only hope is that there is an equal amount of retards on the enemy team that only wants to brool on mid so you can push safely in other lanes

>>538709156
>get put into baroness hotel
>feels like 2 seconds
>put someone into the baroness hotel
>feels like 10 seconds

>>538696463
You get frenzy
It is actually crazy how good it is on him, better than any spirit vomit item you could get unironically

>>538704378
the other anon is right
If you want to do skirmishes, you might as well play abrams with real tankiness and cc. His 3 midgame will literally kill you faster than the enemy, and his health is at the level of seven. He does not even get real tank stats

>>538712216
no

>>538696463
What do you mean? Get spirit resist so you don't die to your aura, then stack it and items that make your aura do more damage.
Max the 1 for the insane heal, but put at least 1 point in the aura for the slow.
Also don't forget to buy Berzerker, shit's broken on him.

>>538712921
enjoy your 45% winrate

Victor is a Drain Tank.
As long as you don't miss your pain battery you should never die.
Miss one and you're done though.

>>538712921
I don't think you or that other anon understand just how powerful a free revive is in any sort of small fight.

>>538713007
it’s 59% thougheverbeit (52W 36L)

my team after i go 0-4 in lane
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5EzuAl71myw

Gun Kelvin might be better but I think BEEEEMER Kelvin is the funnest still.

ice path 3rd upgrade has to be up there with worst upgrades in the game right

>>538709156
Stealing all the complimentary soaps, shampoos, towels, gideon bible

so does mina ult not do more damage to a stack of enemies vs just nuking 1 person?

I feel like at low ranks having a mole man on the enemy team is auto win. Nobody is interrupting his ult and he just instakills anyone he grabs giving their team so much map control

>>538714529
yeah it's pretty shit

>>538714186
beam kelvin is absolute cancer to play against

>>538708870
i made a wraith ragequit by stunlocking him to death with viscous ball

which guy does the most damage? anytime i play this videogame my gun does no damage to the bad guy, but the bad guy melts me in a 1 milimeter second
also is there pornography of the vampire girl character? thank you, and god bless

>>538717078
The uninstall wizard.

>How interesting or fun is this item?
>Shadow Weave
>[1] [2] [3] [4] [5]

Who would you use it on?

>>538717078
Infernus probably

>>538717627
Wraith, drifter, infernus

18 seconds of stealth is a LOT

>>538668820
Swap out Leech for Infuser; you're doing way more spirit damage than gun damage in this build.

>>538696463
you build gun victor, never ever use your aura except to farm, and rat lanes until you win
Had a game where I just pushed a side lane all game, got through their t3s and killed the shrines while they were busy defending blue walker from my team

>>538717627
severely slept on item

>lane opponent is viscous/talon/doortard/geist
>interest to play to out the game drops to 0

>>538717830
>>538719364
What do you use this item for?

>>538719650
to scout what the enemy is doing in their side of the map with massive potential for raping someone if you catch them unaware

>>538719650
Like what the other guy said but it's in the text of the item, AMBUSHING

try to find where they are and let your team know then blast their asshole with all your spells in the 8 seconds of buff time you have

>Lose match
>Look at the stats
>Our Shiv had 0 kills
By the way, how do you counter Haze?

>>538720317
get juggernaut, suppressor or disarming hex/curse

>>538720317
Disarming hex or just burst her down before she can build fixation stacks

>muted for the second time in two weeks
I guess the times of carelessly calling people niggers with no consequences have come to an end

>do well as drifter
>lose
>do bad as drifter
>win
it's literally a LAW of the game

any youtubers you guys like to watch? I'm trying to learn the game so I've been watching midlock, he's funny

>>538721131
Time to grow up, you spastic.

I got carried so hard that I feel bad. I should probably remove Warden from my roster.

>>538722608
you're finger wagging on a video game board on 4chan nigger, look in the mirror

nta but the concept of hiding your power level was a thing even when i started using this site 20 years ago its just good advice to follow it should be obvious calling people niggers on an online game in 2025 would get you in trouble

>>538723261
Power level is for irl, the fact we have to hide our powerlevel in videogames is embarrassing and just a consequence of the normification of the internet. The entire system of matchmaking instead of custom servers leads to things like not being able to say certain words because you can't just say "well the server operators think it's fine, go to a different server" as a game developer, you have to be actively involved in the process of your customers using the product that they paid for and babysit them so nobody gets asshurt.

I hate mina

Did anyone watch the EU Deadlock Night Shift finals last night? Winning team hit a bm pause at the end of the game and someone called them a monkey lmfao

Is there a point to keep the right click zoom in?
I want to replace it with parry because pressing F to parry sucks.

>>538723261
>>538723407
Hiding your power level refers to niche hobbyism and not being like "zomg, I collect Zambot 3 figurines!" in front of your coworkers. There's no justification for having vile racist hatred tainting your heart.

just ate some ricearoni
feelling good :) time to ruin someones game by trying to play doorman. ill do my best!!!

>>538723797
shut up nigger

>>538723797
they cant refute this

is victor just bad against gun heavy teams?

>>538724137
he's bad against people that have 2 brain cells and build antiheal

What goes through the mind of a drifter or billy that split pushes alone past minute 30 and dies and allows the enemy team to take mid boss and win?

>>538723740
is deadlock fight night and deadlock night shift the same thing?

>>538723797
8/10 bait

>>538724573
Not a single thought occurs
>t. billy/drifter player

Help. My last few games I get a few kills in laning and I usually lead my team in souls, but I have a bad habit of being in the wrong place when enemies start teamfights. I'm trying to keep one eye on my minimap but I want to push and do it at the wrong time (not from being ganked just from being across the map from their big push). Tips? Should I just stick to mid when I have a lead so I'm closer to the action?

>>538724680
no but the entire deadlock scene is like 3 eu and 3 na teams so it's always them anyway

>>538724680
>>538725065
they are the same thing, night shift is the rebrand

>>538723797
I thought it was about redpilling, like talking about /pol/ shit. Though I do remember people talking about it in regards to videogames like the classic >coworker asks what videogames you play post

I really like halfway investing into stomp + spirit power and then swapping to utility in the midgame with Dynamo. You actually feel useful early.

>>538725016
buy a mobility item like sprint boots, or multiple like majestic leap / warp stone/ veilwalker

>>538725016
Real answer is your enemies are taking fights BECAUSE you are in the wrong place. They see you and are avoiding you as the strongest player. So either your team needs to be better (not happening) or you bait your team and then show up

>>538725016
You should be buying sprint boots or fortitude every game.

>Teamfights

If it's not urn or midboss there's literally nothing you're OBLIGATED to fight over unless they're in your base. Your teammates are just choosing to fight when you're not nearby because they're retarded, due to you being in shitlow. Bad players take retarded fights over nothing constantly.

>>538725361
It predates even /new/. It was originally an /a/ thing. "Hiding your power level" is from Dragonball Z.

>>538725854
Of course but that doesn't necessarily mean it's /a/, though it makes sense for that to be the case. Every board used to be an anime board...

>>538725016
use the teleporter and practice vent routes

>>538704321
>Doesn't post rank
Lmao you're a fucking super low rank pussy. Only read the first two lines.

I play mcginnis when I want to win.

>>538725773
That can't be deliberate, I'm still in the low ranks.

>>538725781
Okay I like that. Trophy Hunter sounds cool as the upgrade.

>>538725964
I need to do this. I don't think I've ever used the teleporters.

>be a lane janny
>team takes stupid fights and gets wiped regularly
>be a roaming support
>our walkers get raped in seconds for free
What's the solution?

How do I play seven i die like 5 times in lane every game

>>538725065
yeah i have noticed whenever i do tune in to a game its the same couple of teams. i think the top 2 teams Abraham and Buff Enjoyers have some beef going off the end of the game last night lmao

>>538726971
It's because Abrahams consists of russian racists

>>538726290
Not like it takes massive game knowledge to realize youre not there and to go onto your teammates.

>>538722625
Never mind, he is pretty neat when you actually build him right. Although he is not the best hero for what I have to do in most games, aka pushing lanes fast while everyone else is team fighting.

>>538727078
theres a russian on buff enjoyers though. either way its got me interested in watching the next time they play

What's the early game options I have for protect myself against spirit burst? If I don't rush spirit resilience some characters just destroy me with a simple extra spirit + mystic burst (example, Holly barrel + pad explosion + crackshot), if I do rush Spirit Resilience I forsake some much needed damage in the laning phase. I feel like it's purely a loss-loss scenario, and that's even before the person gets Cold Front.