Thread 1931734

Season 8 on the (SYS$) horizon
CNS about to give everyone their love
Time to wildly speculate on sponsors, weapons, etc.

Join club "Vidya" to find other anons to play with

again the legacy battlepass grind is annoying sorry if I wasnt a day 1 goy. I also dont play cash out and I only play the payload mode

>S8 in 2 weeks
>no teaser or even leaks
Wow, nobody gives a shit anymore it seems

>>1931793
Good, quick cash is shit

>>1931795
BUT GUYS MO1STCR1TKAL SAID THIS GAMES UNDERRATED AS FUCK AND ITS THE MOST UNDERRATED SHOOTER EVER!!!!!

>>1931804
And in the same weekend when he posted that video, player numbers stayed below the 20k mark, exactly the same they had been for the past few weeks. I'll be suprised if the viewercount for the major will break 150k.

>>1931804
Yeah I don’t know, every e celeb basically praises the game whenever they cover it. Is it too sweaty? The game show aesthetics turns people off? It doesn’t even filter people all these videos get what? Millions of views but no one seemingly tries it. They all watch a video, agree, and then never play it while they pay themselves on the back.

>>1931795
In all likelihood, teaser tomorrow, but the thread wasn't gonna hold out until then. Board has to make room for a dozen more /vg/ expats and roblox servers apparently

>>1931827
The finals is like the opposite of call of duty near instant praise online every second it’s mentioned yet none of the playerbase yet cod has basically been shat on for the last decade and it’s still the most popular

>>1931793
I bought the season 1 legacy BP and season 7 at the same time and got all the good shit from the S1 Legacy pass first. You don't need to get everything, just skip the shit like emoticons and sprays only buy them if you need to spend to progress the page

>>1931827
Genuinely I just think it’s the setting of the game show most fps fans just want it vaguely military.

Notice I said VAGUELY ignore modern cod

>>1931827
If a majority of ecelebs who aren’t even paid to shill the game praise and their audiences don’t budge then I don’t know what will. The games probably easier to watch than play like an actual game show

>>1931827
It's got a few things working against it.

Part of it is that the game is just too unique. Destruction forces player to un-learn years or even decades of experience regarding map control. Even with Payload and TDM being added, Cashout is still THE main gamemode, and the cheeky robberies surrounding the game can be super frustrating for new players. Multi-team means you really gotta adapt how you defend a point, and even almost 2 years in, most players still don't know how to do it and instead cry about 3rd-Partying and Grief-Qualifying. Not to mention there's some inherent wackiness that isn't bad but goes against their preconceived notions of balanced play or what a shooter should be as well.

Part of it is that it's just fundamentally hard to attract people within this space. It's a shooter, so everyone's already got one to play and spend FOMO time on instead. The small team factor means that people want to play with friends, but that means convincing your buddies to install a 60GB game that might not run the best on their aging hardware.

Ends up leaving a lot of people to say "yeah that's sick, but it's just not for me," but think they're entitled to kudos or that they've participated in the community by stating it's good and then doing nothing.

>>1931827
I think Kelski actually plays it a lot but others like you said play it once, says it’s awesome, and then leave

>>1931827
do not listen to this retard >>1931907

>>1932106
This is /vm/, anon. You don't need to emptily bump the thread with nothing to say to keep it alive. Unlike /v/ and /vg/, you actually should have a counter-argument, or else you're just a gay shitposter.

>>1931827
Criticals video does jackshit, there is a major issue in this community over the insane amount of fake toxic positivity.

The reddit is currently praising the changes to the games review scores (ignoring the fake the scores were fucked due to china) and now think Charlie saved the game

Everyone and their sister started playing this in my circles. It's like another fortnite situation:
>cute spin on an established gamemode
>huge asian publisher becomes a big shareholder and investor
>eCelebs latch on
Now the next steps are crossovers and an influx of kids through promotions and thats it.

>>1932358
>Now the next steps are crossovers
Honestly if there was any kind of game that wouldn't suffer so much from being fortniteified with crossover, it's the one where it's about an actual Game Show with sponsors. That being said, it would still be gay since I like how the sponsors have been entirely fictional so far and that there is a contained world to the game.

>>1932362
The world is so miniscule and not established enough for crossovers for now. But of course that can change, they dump some lore every update as far as I've seen

>>1932358
Or nexon forces coomer skins

>>1932362
Friend of mine kept telling me how cool it would be if shit like coca cola would be advertised in game and I keep thinking "man I don't wanna see that shit while I'm playing"

the fun of the sponsors is that they're fictional

>>1932582
I'd be okay with fictional sponsors from another game bringing crossover skins but I couldn't list any for you off the top of my head.

>>1931212
I'm thinking of buying it but i'll wait to see what they offer in season 8 before I make the decision.

On one hand i do wanna support the guys in stockholm Embark, in the other hand I don't want a single cent to go to the Nexon chinks after reading their lawsuit history.
A f2p needs 3 seasons to save up for a battlepass so I might just wait it out. Not too strapped for fashion

>>1932310
The reddit sucks just like every multiplayer shooter.
Just take a look at the winch complaints. The second the hammer is nerfed it's onto whining about the winch, once that's nerfed it'll be the Shak, then the SA12
You can tell it's just populated by console retards, you can take a look at the most recent posts and a good chunk of them are always console lights posting their dogshit clips.

>>1933096
>look at ones that actually have updoots n' shit
>it's just comedy clips or people jokingly showing up when the detection is shonky
Smells like you're trying to cook a narrative

>>1932310
Steam just changed the rules to reviews, at this rate Charlie is gonna get a bundle

>>1933096
there is zero fucking thought into counter play by anyone on that reddit. "Riot shield is overpowered! Double Barrel is overpowered! The CL40 is overpowered!" the average player experience there is full of low IQ retards

>Playing ranked
>intermediate, supposed to gain points even at 3rd place
>doing good, pass the first round
>second round
>game frozen during loading
>fuck have to alt +f4
>also have to restart PC because it fucks with my ssd for some goddamn reason
>do so
>reconnect
>continue the match as normal
>on the last cashout
>we loose because the retards from orange team 3rd party us (they also lost, for the record)
>we get 3rd place, still some points in theory
>check RS gain
>-1000 RS
>WTF
>Matchmaking Suspention
Swedish people need to KILL THEMSELVES, THIS GAME IS POORLY CODED TRASH, HOW IS THIS READY FOR A FUCKING MAJOR

>>1933382
>playing ranked
That was your first mistake. The push for ranked and Majors is entirely on Nexon, and against the spirit of the game. Maybe you should go back to playing CS:GO

>>1933382
>Playing ranked

>>1933415
>>1933418
>dissing on ranked
oh no he's coming

>>1933415
There was ranked matchmaking as far back as the first beta
let's not pretend it was all a "they made us do it" situation. They forced them to push ranked TA, but ranked was always in their mind from the start.

>>1933564
>There was ranked matchmaking as far back as the first beta
And anyone that has actually played the game knows that it was never actually a true "Ranked," and it's why demands for a "proper" ELO-style system where you can wave dick and obsess about your ranked points was a huge demand in the first few seasons.

Embark's ""Ranked,"" where "any player could theoretically make it to Diamond Tier by the end of the season, simply by playing the game enough" is what eventually morphed into World Tour. Actual Ranked wasn't added until much later, and is certifiable homosex. If you play Ranked after Season 2, you are having sex with men.

>>1933729
Stay in casual then shitter, no need to muddy everything up with your bad opinions

The spawns are so broken it's not even funny
the spawn system update that rolled out recently is honestly so fucking bad, why does it always prefer to push for 3rd parties? Either we get to stare at nothing and get a free cashout or it's a WWE cage match against 3 teams. Don't even get me started on spawning 50 meters to the left of another team. I have a clip of that happening troday.

also the cashout spawn logic for the 22k boxes is so bad, they spawn like 70-80 meters away from eachother!!

>>1933764
Funny, that's exactly what I tell rankoids myself
Embrace casual instead of trying to dickwave, you retard. The shit you fags push to try to make your corporate-mandated mode more tolerable fucks up the game for everyone else.

>>1933729
I mean they had to go ahead and make a retard baby proof mode for you idiots. It's like the partecipation award for the finals. It even has less rules and no wipe on loss which is so dumb.

>>1933805
>I mean they had to go ahead and make a retard baby proof mode for you idiots
Meanwhile, Ranked players complained about a piece of metal on a stick being "overtuned and unbeatable"
Stay in your lane, little bro. It's got baby bumpers for you.

Ranked is the most fun way to play the game. There's actual stakes and everyone at least pretends to try. World tour is a mixed bag of retardation.

>>1933935
I think the most fun mode was actually single cashout, since it still had stuff like money loss on team wipe while being short enough for just one round so there wasn't a worry about things like teams choosing who to get second because only first place won.

>>1933935
Ranked is the absolute worst way to play, but Cashout Tournament and Single Round Cashout are the most fun gamemodes. It's a shame they axed Unranked Tournament, and it'd be great if those weeks in World Tour that called themselves "Classic Cashout" actually did function on old rules

>>1933959
Yeah that's what I miss that WT just isn't
Unranked Tournament just felt better to play

>>1934495
dayum, nice quad kill anon

>soloq ranked
>get another heavy
>running charge and hammer
>wierd choice but whatever
>every fight we take
>he does nothing and instead starts destroying the surrounding buildings
>impossible to take fights in because of debris
>does the same on our own sites, making it worse to defend
>has mines
>never placed one
>has C4
>never used it
>doesn't even play with the team, just fucks off and breaks shit
>me and my other teammate try (well he's playing heals and doesn't heal so there's that)
>suprise surpise
>we lose
what is wrong with these people

>>1934727
see >>1933415 and >>1933418

>>1934735
rent free

>>1934727
>he does nothing and instead starts destroying the surrounding buildings

>>1934727
if it was WT I would assume you're talking about me kek
destruction is half the reason I'm here. I'll be damned if I don't spend my time sledgehammering every building over two stories tall. some teammates hate, but idc. I'm just here for the whimsy

>>1934984
I specifically said it was ranked
the people you find in soloq are some of the most mentally deficient people i've ever seen. Just today, I met the guy I talked about earlier, then 2 console players who quit the match after they rushed in and got killed immediatley. Then another match with a guy that went 0-5 with sub 1k damage in the whole match. And last but not least, 2 lights who started trolling mid game and spammed heil hitler and neeger. There is something wrong with these people.

>>1934735
why are you complaining about the ranked playlist when you can just play WT or literally any other playlist

>>1935061
What rank are you? I soloq exclusively, and besides the occassional redditor faggot who thinks that trying to steal a cashout instead of trying to fight the team fight is a good idea- I usually meet people who are trying to sweat.

>>1935109
>why are you complaining about the ranked playlist when you can just play WT or literally any other playlist
I do play the other modes I enjoy more. I only touch ranked when my ranked obsessed friends want to play together with me or I want to play with them.
I am complaining because it is taking away limited swede devtime from the parts of the game I actually enjoy and also because balancing for ranked and not World Tour is actively homogenizing the game into AR galore CoD with a few wacky gadgets added in instead of something truly unique in the FPS space, like it was a while ago. This is largely because the reserve is disabled in ranked, so everyone is encouraged to pick the most generally applicable options possible instead of specializing and being able to adapt your active loadout to the given situation.
Everything that does perform better than assault rifles in its specific niche is also gutted immidiately, except lights double barrel bullshit cannon and sniper rifle for some reason. My issue here with them isn't that they're powerful, it's the lack of consistency in balancing philosophy, either let the specialized weapons shine or get it over with and run the game into the ground like they seem to be intending to.
I'm fine with ARs being generalists, but melee and shotguns are supposed to be oppressive in close quarters and precision weapons are supposed to be very strong at range and reward precision.
Taking games a little more seriously to win is fine, hell, I even enjoy having to focus to get a win, but competitive/ranked in video games was a mistake and so was "skill based" match making.

>>1935164
Enabling reserve would enable more creative play- yeah. But i play in Plat 2 / Plat 3 lobbies. Sure, about 60 to 70% of players run SMG, Rifle, or LMG- but there's still a pretty good spread of melee and more atypical weapons.

I see at least 1 M26 on Light each game- occasional Cerberus' or Models. SA1216s are literally high elo Heavy meta. I see Bows and Throwing knives every other game, and they usually dominate the lobby. Flamethrowers are still just as annoying-

Ive been seeing a lot of Riot Shield, Swords, and Sledge especially after each recent buffs to the first two.
Yeah it's an anecdote but I don't think the balance is as gutted as you think it is. Even on Light atm, the V9S is the meta pick for the sweatiest players since it has a faster TTK than the M11 if you can click fast enough.

>>1935358
>I see Bows and Throwing knives every other game, and they usually dominate the lobby.
I've been perplexed at those two having infinite ammo (as in no reloads), but I'm going to assume that's also from when there were a lot more ways to deal with lights quickly like giving a weapon that has to be a twoshot or twoshot + quick melee or be completely useless with it's only limiting factor be range, to the class that has multiple ways of easily getting close was a choice from that time. Either make light squishier again (bring back more ways of dealing with light effectively, not nerf light directly) or give those two weapons reloads, not that that would magically fix light.
>SA1216s are literally high elo Heavy meta.
And the alternate choice for said high elo heavies is the ShAK-50, a generalist AR, which will take the spot of the SA1216 when winch inevitably gets gimped for no reason.
>Ive been seeing a lot of Riot Shield, Swords, and Sledge especially after each recent buffs to the first two.
Riot shield is used because remembered that the hitboxes for it are still fucked.
Sword and sledge are getting more attention due to recent changes.
Do you really need to be reminded that sledge was gutted recently, with the changes being somewhat walked back on due to massive community backlash?
>the V9S is the meta pick for the sweatiest players since it has a faster TTK than the M11 if you can click fast enough.
Stats back that up, ever so slightly though. Doubt a 0.03 to 0.07 second difference in TTK makes that big of a difference in actual gameplay. Would personally take the slightly better damage at range of the M11, but I only ever play light for challenges.
>I don't think the balance is as gutted as you think it is.
It probably isn't as bad as it feels for me, but I don't trust swede game developers. They always seem to strike gold with fun and engaging core gameplay, but then seemingly to want to ruin it with future additions and/or other changes.

>>1935452
Riot shield is used because people* remembered that the hitboxes for it are still fucked.
Along with the general wordiness of this, gonna have to go to sleep.

>>1935109
>just play WT
World Tour is absolute shit with even more brainless teammates and enemies.
Ranked is the only mode with a sensible format with players who at least pretend to try

>>1935452
V9S has better range and has been the best light gun since launch. still is.

>>1935483
Forgot to account for the 2.5x higher damage per shot of the V9S compared to the M11 (16 vs 40). My apolocheese.
M11's max dropoff range is actually ~2m longer than the V9S though, but again, 2.5x higher base damage.

>>1935477
I agree with you anon
>>1935452
>And the alternate choice for said high elo heavies is the ShAK-50, a generalist AR, which will take the spot of the SA1216 when winch inevitably gets gimped for no reason.
Youre right that the ShAK-50 is the alternative option. I always swap off whatever specialist option I have for a generalist weapon on third round anyway in ranked. But the fact that a specialist weapon has a general even split with something so generalist can demonstrate specialist weapons shouldnt be binned so quickly. Plus in all honesty, I fucking hate the SA1216, its the only shotgun in the game I really can't wrap my head around.
>It probably isn't as bad as it feels for me, but I don't trust swede game developers.
I get it- games like Helldivers 2 and the abyssmal launch of Payday 3 kinda makes me wary about most multiplayer swedish game experiences. But at the end of the day, games are games- and they're still meant to be fun and they shouldnt have much bearing on your life. Going to extremes and feeling vitriolic just doesnt sound like its worth it for a live service multiplayer game.

I like it when things go boom.
When buildings crumble and strucures fall apart.
Lights on fire and mediums stuck in rubble.
Heavy build for this feel?

>>1935553
I like hanging out in TDM with Goo Gun and Sledge hammer and pretending to play Minecraft Creative mode. People get really really upset that I don't really play the game and just fuck around making goo sculptures.

>>1935623
I'm on CnS and hammer but I really should try goo.
The map is pretty leveled by the time the match ends in TDM. I do keep a kdr above 1 tho, since a light inevitably wanders into my rampage every now and then.

>>1935508
man I preordered Payday 3

>>1935720
god- the core of that game is actually pretty good now. It needs a massive overhaul to the skill system, but the game feels really good to play. There's just zero fucking content associated with it- its so not worth buying right now

>>1935109
I was plat 2
but then we met perzzzon 3 times in a row
and then fikolas twice
and we started duo queueing and the 3rd was always retarded
so I landed my ass straight back onto fucking gold.

Like what am I supposed to do when I get teammates like picrel

>>1935722
Oh, don't misunderstand, I knew very well how shit it was gonna be. I saw starbreeze fuck me over multiple times, ask for my money over and over and like a good little idiot, I gave it to them. And I saw all the signs of Payday 3 being a spectacular flop and buddy, those first row seats were something. Haven't touched this game in 2 years.

Remember, with swedes, you loose. It's 100% a fact. Think of any mild to major flop that happened in gaming and atleast half of it was from a swedish studio.

I miss animation cancelling the SA12 cycle... I started getting really good with it and then they rolled out that update...

I will say though, I got better with it recently. As a heavy that mostly plays with a ShAK, I will loose engagements against SA12 users.

>>1935726
thats honestly really funny- i wish you could block people that are objectively just dogshit to play with.
>>1935729
I put in about 100 hours into Payday 3 to give it a bit of a chance and man. There just isnt much to be excited for. Im sure in liike- 8 years, Payday 3 will be worth playing, but if they cant roll out the content for it...well- I hope Den of Wolves ends up being good. I really liked GTFO.

https://www.reachthefinals.com/patchnotes/playstyles
New system for newcomers, neat

>>1935842
>Very first playstyle option is grapple sniper crane camper

>>1935830
> i wish you could block people that are objectively just dogshit to play with.
another extract from my mis-adventures
As I said earlier, had 2 controller lights who quit the game after they got demolished in the second fight, leaving me to also quit and lose RS. This is how they were playing.

I admit, i'm not the best player and I'm playing on a toaster. But holy fuck, how do these people even exist.

>>1935859
More liggers to bumrush and rape

>>1935842
>Grapple sniper
A new player will pick up the sniper for 3 seconds, miss every shot and decide to play something else
>cloak and TKs
TKs are used with dash, just spam left right and hold left click. Infinite ammo bullshit ensues.
>Dash and M11
yeah that one's ok

>heavy's playstyles
They're mostly fine but RPG and Dome are like must haves

>Medium's playstyles
some don't have the Defib. Why. Defib is the most must have gadget ever, same with jump pads

>teased demat nerf
real shit?

>>1936179
qrd

>>1934984
Why not just play quick cash if you want to do goofy shit like that? People say WT doesn't matter, but anyone with a brain still wants to win to get points.

>>1936183
look at the playstyles video and you can see the demat now having a slightly longer animation. My guess is that it will make it so enemy teams can see where you're coming from. Finally

>get the dreaded Lobby Fulla Lights
>pick medium
>win
wow

>>1936171
Now let's see your aim hitting one shot on a sword light while using Winch+Shak

>>1936179
>>1936229
>Nerf demat
>Nerf defib every season
>Nerf all the fun M guns leaving only the ARs and Pike (expect a nerf soon) as viable picks
>Give healing gadgets to heavy and light that are better than medium's heal SPECIALIZATION
They really don't want anyone playing this class

>>1936258
>Nerf all the fun M guns leaving only the ARs and Pike (expect a nerf soon) as viable picks
>people still asking for the CL-40 to be removed from the game
>cerberus still works wonders if people are obligated to come to you
>lever action rifle still works fine
medium's guns are fine lol, 1887 and revolver could potentially get some love somehow

demat desperately needs nerfs, it centers the game around itself. the healing situation is weird and bad I have no idea why light has stronger healing than medium now

>>1936299
The lever action is a contender for worst gun in the game, there is no reason to use it over the Pike

>>1936314
>long range, consistently accurate hitscan that two-taps light
>"the worst gun in the game"
come on now. the pike has it beat, it's true, but that's because the pike is FUCKED. it's a solid weapon.

>>1936258
>jump pad
>defib
>demat
>pike and famas
all great reasons to play the class

>>1936299
CB sucks ass man
CL is annoying but the counterplay is to just stay up and against a heavy, you either kill yourself from self damage or trade.
Cerberus is just shit now and that's a good thing.

>>1936253
I missed the winch and that basically means I die. But the guy in the clip was standing still and he was playing from controller with AA. Kinda hard to miss a guy standing still instead of a light sword dashing through you.

>>1936404
CB is fine if you're allowed to play range which is easier said than done, feels very nice to poke with even if it's inferior to the pike. it's fucking MISERABLE against barriers however and dome shield is just the reality.
CL's a scrubkiller and will never stop being a scrubkiller until they completely gut it
cerb didn't suck ass at launch and doesn't suck ass now, it's a niche weapon. Boggles the mind how people think a weapon that lets medium brool with medium and instagib light up close while also countering gas or goo for free is irredeemable dogshit because it incurred a SLIGHT damage/range nerf

>>1936415
Back when cerb was meta, if I winched a cerb medium, I was guaranteed to loose the fight. No weapon should 1hko a class, that's why the DB is also total bullshit.
Remember, cerb used to 2 shot medium. Not 2 shot + qm, straight up 2 shot and if you didn't close the kill, chances are that the afterburn would. I'm glad it is how it is now because now you have to think a little before fighting instead of getting 2 shots in and killing a dude.

>>1936441
>No weapon should 1hko a class
I don't believe this, it's fine for shit to instagib light and DB would be perfectly fine if it required QM or full pellet spread to kill heavy.

>>1936507
I disagree, not even the sniper rifle 1 hits from body shots and on anything bigger than a light, not even headshots kill them. I think the db should do something like 145 or something that can be compensated with qm.

>>1936660
playing DB into lights is already actually absolutely miserable if the lights are good and refuse to just let you into point blank

sure it's an instagib, but light against light is already the fastest TTK in the game in general. we're talking about the difference between "instant" vs "under half a second." if the DB light doesn't catch you at point blank to begin with it's fucking over

>>1936665
I mean the gun 2 shots any class
but what most people seem to forget when they talk about this is that the teams are made of 3 people. Having a light distract you so much because he can 2 shot you means another asshole can come up and just finish the job for him. Same reason why I despise riot, on top of being incredibly annoying (yeah sure, fucking block my winch man, fuck off) most of the time it's because I'm focused on backing up and shooting him, while his teammates just dink me from far away and I can't do shit.

>>1936675
yeah the db's good, it just falls off/gets harder to use the better the enemy team is and I refuse to play it into light-heavy teams because an automatic will deal with them almost instantly while being less punishing with 30x the range, that's all.

>>1936682
>it just falls off/gets harder to use the better the enemy team
I agree
> because an automatic will deal with them almost instantly while being less punishing with 30x the range, that's all.
I disagree because dash exists and makes retreats/pushes so easy, especially when combined with other movement tools like TPs for pushing/quick getaways. Or even just flanking while your teammates aggro or just straight up interjecting into the fight, doing 165 dmg with one shot.

>>1936685
the thing is and i'm just talking about light v light, the auto light can have dash too. you use your mobility to get in, the light uses their mobility to get out and you're just cooked unless you managed a point blank ambush and instagibbed them.

>>1936694
but tracking isn't necessary with the DB.
One shot, boom, you're dead. Or you do the dreaded dance of the dashes as you duck and weave around bullets but the point is, in the same timeframe, you will almost always output more damage than he'll do

>>1936695
I find tracking a light with the MP5 or mac-11 generally easier and more reliable than attempting to twitch meatshot a light on my one chance knowing damn well that it's probably over if I miss but that's just me

>>1936701
I'm the opposite, I find tracking to be annoying since I always leave them with 1 hp while with the DB I just 1 shot them. I am also playing on a toaster with 60 fps so I quite literally cannot track anything properly, that's why I play winch with ShAK/SA12

>>1936701
That does vary from person to person. I can hit all my shots with the KS-23 against anyone, but tracking with the automatics can be hit or miss (bum dum tish)

i still have not seen a single player using the hammerhead ned skin

>>1938148
It's very ugly and very expensive. I assume only whales bought it and they probably lost interest the second the maid outfit came out

>>1938148
Big costume skins are never popular, since you can't mix and match

>>1938148
it looks like shit but it also gives you a huge disadvantage since there are little lightning bolts around your head and they're really visible

all melee lobbies are misery holy hell

>>1939937
just shoot them first, anon

>>1939937
Gas/flame + lockbolt + S + M1

>>1940032
Why is that Spider-Man Cow cumming

>>1940051
Because it third party lockbolted 5 sword lights and pyro naded them

I WANT WALLRUNNING ADDED TO THE GAME RIGHT NOW

>>1940125
Yeah but like, they I doubt they can do it without feeling intrusive. Like the whole thing with destruction is that they want rubble to always function as a usable surface, roughly as you'd "expect," so things will quickly get awkward as pieces that are vertical enough to wallrun on might start filling the area and what not.

Wallrunning on collapsing walls and 9ver rubble sounds amazing. Imagine wallrunning and somene placed mines on the wall high up so you have a little obstacle course before you inevitably wallrun of the map. (Seriously, the reason TF|2 works is because there's nearly no death pits)

>>1940125
>>1940132
>>1940224
wallrunning makes sense for this game imo
could be a light ability with a sort of sprint timer cooldown
would unlock a new layer of movement skill

enough rubble should intentionally fuck it up desu

Let me sprint through glass
PLEASE LET ME SPRINT THROUGH GLASS
You can already run through the windows on Monaco so let me go through those completely transparent impossible to tell if they're already broken or not glass panels and shit on Skyway and Seoul

>>1940382
Make glass dirtier
Honestly, I feel like a mosquito trying to fly through a window every time when I bump my head on em

>>1939937
>Hammer
I can take him
>Spear
I can take him
>Dagger
I can take him
>Sword
I can take him
>Dual Blades
I can take him
>Riot
Not only I can't winch it, but his hitbox is completly fucked and I can't shoot him even if I wanted to. If he spins around fast enough, he can even kill a flamer heavy.

>>1940391
I don't want to see any changes to the riot shield besides fixing the awful broken hit box
It's interesting having a weapon that's very strong when played well against guns but very weak against other melee weapons and launchers. Though I expect it to be gutted and we'll take one step closer to the auto rifle only meta Embark dreams of

>>1940391
>If he spins around fast enough, he can even kill a flamer heavy.
this shit is infuriating as a flame main

you would logically think that the flamethrower would be the absolute best counter to riot sheild because you cant block the fucking fire engulfing you, but it still reguarly ends in a trade at best

>>1940462
>weak against launchers
It can tank CL shots.
also jesus the "auto rifle meta" argument is living rent free in your head, give it up, the currently strongest guns aren't even automatics like the pike, FAMAS, 93R, MASS, SA12 and so on, FCAR isn't even used extensively anymore at mid to high level play, it's all pike spam.

>>1940628
>FAMAS, 93R
They aren't literally "auto rifles" but they fit the mold of what I was implying with where the meta is heading. You don't play the Famas any different than you would an FCAR or the 93R and the old XP54
I'll give you the rest but I'll be surprised if the Pike doesn't see a nerf in Season 8

>>1936194
when they add a game mode like ranked cash out to quick play, I'll be there. in the meantime, you'll find me in WT. if you're in EU and there's a sledgehappy heavy, feel free to say hi to me anons ;)

>>1940805
>you play guns like... guns
I really don't get your train of thought here, you just sound like you're complaining because you're getting shot from far away

>I'll be surprised if the Pike doesn't see a nerf in Season 8
50 dmg per shot is a fuck ton, when the LH1 did 50 dmg per shot, it was nerfed within the week and for good reasons.

>>1940920
>you just sound like you're complaining because you're getting shot from far away
No? I'm complaining that they nerf everything that gains prominence in the meta that isn't a jack-of-all trades rifle/smg. It makes the game boring.
Medium is much less interesting to play after the nerfs to the Model/Cerb/CL-40

>>1940952
Model got buffed
and you wouldn't be saying this if you played during S3
Cerberus is like, ok now
there is plenty of evidence that it was, in fact, busted
People bitching about the CL, i'll never understand, it's a FINE weapon, it's only annoying if you play light

this is just how FPS games, especially competitive ones, are. Besides you complain about medium but ignore that heavy has been world class champion at getting the shaft in the nerfs department. Can count on one hand the ammount of buffs he's recieved other the whole gamespan

>>1940992
I should clarify about the CL40
it's fine NOW
back when S4 launched, it was infact, too strong

I would much prefer all guns/weapons being slightly overpowered but only in their niche. But thats's not possible with ARs and SMGs.
I can see a lot of inspiration for this game's class balance coming from tf2 so it's really baffling that they decided to put an AK into every new players hands and a rifle into every classes loadout, completely nullifying the variety the game offers in terms of significant loadout decisions. As is there's two loadouts for every class:
>meta picks that reddit cried to be buffed 24/7
90% of players are only familiar with things like ARs and grenades of various flavours due to them appearing consistently in nearly every shooter for the past 30 years. So they gravitate to that as a safe pick, because they behave the exact same eevery time.
>fun loadout
Something you can still be effective with if you have a brain OR just played more than just CoD, CS and similair normieslop AR fest.

And you can bet your ass now that ecelebs latched onto the game, they are gonna advocate to keep ARs and SMGs strong since that's what they used for years in normieslop to amuse masses.
Doubly so for esports lunatics.

>>1936396
meanwhile I'm running revolver and data reshaper

>play ranked with some really strong people
>we get into a match with 2 trash teams and one team with top 10 players
>we mop the floor with the other 2 trash teams and have a massive 37k headstart
>one team has 2 people quit out of desperation
>we try to split last
>but obviously the other strong team intercepts the other one and doubles
>they give bubbles to the other trash team
>they wipe and chase us
>the trash team that was with only 2k at the end of the game
>suddenly gets free 36k
>we got wiped so we were 34k ish
>lose

Haha, thanks

>next game
>we pair up against Bisha (probably cheating), Roma (THE top controller player) and PacolemTTV (beamer medium)
>all top 10/100 players
>they literally team with a team with a 2-2-2 team and they defend their cashout
>we LOSE

queue again

>constant 3rd party because one team is decent

queue again
>return of the top players
>they help last team attack us, going so far as even putting their own C4 to defend it

Ranked is flawed, I really wish some heinous shit happens live on the major and they're forced to address it. On top of the massive cheating, paid boosting, alt accounting, account selling and so on.

3rd party is a problem.

>>1941512
I'm beginning to think you don't actually play the game, you keep spreading a lot of misinformation and just incorrect stuff

even in casual, ARs aren't exactly overused and even when they are, they are kept mostly varied. Some use the FCAR, others use the AK adn that's fine.
Granades haven't been meta since S4. Any kind of granade, really.

You also talk how the balance is taken from TF2 but don't mention how in TF2 there are also weapons that are straight up downgrades or simply less picked because there are better options.

The current meta isn't even overly automatic, hell multiple times we've said how semi/burst weapons are the current top picks.

>>1934495
Flamethrower my beloved

>>1942180
I think you slightly misinterpreted my point. Or just just ignored it in favour of the rest of my rant (which, I admit, did go overboard).
I want all the atypical guns to be stronger. Way stronger. Or wierder. Like, sure, nerf cereberus AGAIN but increase the fire damage then. That kind of direction is what I want. The recent sledge buff, the repeater reload, bow sniping, all of it. Everything being in it's own wierd lane. I really like that.
But it simply won't get the situational power or niche as long as it's being balanced against rifles. I mentioned TF2 because the difference of classes and guns shine without automatic rifles in the play. Valve is perfectly capable of of adding in automatics, semi automatics and burst guns as is evident in CS. And there's a good reason they didn't do so in TF2. All the individual weapons and their variants on the classes are beside the point. That's just old game bloat, no single school of weapons is depreciated (I hope, didn't play in a while)

I'll be honest, I (and most people) don't play semi, burst or auto rifles any different on a tactical level so I don't differentiate between them for this argument. And I hope they add an accessibility option to automate semis and burst (as in just holding the trigger instead of clicking as fast as possible) so the illusion clears, comes soon

>>1934984
>destruction is half the reason I'm here
unfathomably based. I wish there was a sanbox mode or something, not that it'd make sense to have since I think destruction is calculated serverside but damnit

>checking out social media to find posts about season 8 info leaks/datamines
>see this shit
https://www.reddit.com/r/thefinals/comments/1n37s88/no_other_community_complains_about_the_mythical/
https://www.reddit.com/user/aaaaaaeeea/
>polish vegan söyboy who defends broken SBMM
Jesus Christ, I really hope this retard doesn't post here, just dogshit bait through and through

>>1942500
>TF2 because the difference of classes and guns shine without automatic rifles in the play
Except all explosive weapons, scattergun and sniper rifle just make every other weapon obsolete due to their sheer burst power

>>1942846
There is SBMM in quick play and world tour. It's not as strict as ranked obviously, if it was that's how you end up with dead game modes. There is no solution other than the player base increasing

>>1942855
remind me why so many people quit during season 1

>>1942500
>I want all the atypical guns to be stronger. Way stronger
And they were
Remember when TKs were (and in a way, still are) some of the strongest bullshit ever? Infinite ammo + retarded high HS damage = randombullshit where you just have to hold left click to win
Remember when the LH1 dominated?
Remember when the sword was busted?
Remember when the FCAR actually was the most picked gun?
Remember when the model was absurd?
Every weapon can be annoying when overused, it's not a characteristic exclusive to automatics.

>I mentioned TF2 because the difference of classes and guns shine without automatic rifles in the play.
What >>1942851 said, but also, it's a completly different game.
and guess what. CS is a competitive one. Are you gonna complain that the majority of the roster in CS is automatics? Or that most picked are the AK and the M4s? And even then, CS does also have other weapons to offer for different strategies.
going back to TF2, you also HAVE to factor in class differences. Some classes move slower, other have more health, other have passive abilities like fire resistance or health regen. In games like CS, EVERYONE starts with 100 HP and 0 armour. And in the finals, despite having class differences, not all weapons that fall in the category you hate so much (autos) play the same or even do the same damage.

>I (and most people) don't play semi, burst or auto rifles any different on a tactical level so I don't differentiate between them for this argument
well then, you have no ground for retorts. If I play Lewis and my enemy plays ShAK. In a winch fight, I WILL lose. My DPS output is not enough to win the exchange. Same exact argument for Lewis vs SA12. Same would go for an FCAR vs Pike situation.


>"I don't like autos and how predominant they are (they really aren't)"
>I hope they add an accessibility option to automate semis and burst (as in just holding the trigger instead of clicking as fast as possible)
....

>>1942861
Cheating
a lot of cheating
general buggyness
lack of maps
lack of gamemodes
very bad balance
released right before vacation so it took them almost 2 months to address any of it

>>1942874
>very bad balance
How? Every class felt more or less balanced, except for the FCAR recon sences medium

>>1942879
Do you seriously not remember Nukes? Or how insane the old SA12 was? Picrel was one of my first games of the launch week using only SA12.
Hell, the RPG used to do 165 dmg. It could literally 1 shot lights (and boy was that glorious)
Heavy in general had it all, 2 C4 charges with no CD, the Lewis did 25 per shot, RPG was accurate even from hipfire, dome had 600 HP and 12s of active time, mesh could be toggled and had fucking 1250 HP. It was glorious but admittedly, very very unbalanced. Sometimes, I miss it.

Oh and yeah Recon Sense, FCAR, XP with roller AA, sonar nades on medium and all that crap.

>>1942884
oh and defibbing was instant with no revive sickness, jump pads had faster CDs too

Whatever happened at the tournament? Did it even happen yet?

>>1942897
The major? It's gonna happen late september/early october or some shit. Right now it's all the open qualifiers.

>>1942870
NTA you were replying to but I don't think the fcar is an atypical gun lol

>>1942902
I meant it more as a "currently strong gun is overused" example. Any annoyingly strong gun will get abused and spammed, that's my point.

>>1942904
ah that makes sense, yeah that's true.

>>1942884
nukes rocked, I loved making them on medium and one shotting unsuspecting heavies lol

>>1942907
Nukes were mostly made with C4s, I hardly ever made or seen made nukes with mines. Then again, mines had no activation time and didn't sag on the red canisters, so

>>1942909
yeah, and you got two right off the bat

>>1942911
same with C4 desu

>>1942914
yeah, fun times

>>1942851
Oh? Has the pyro "m1+w" ""tactic"" fallen out of favour? Are heavies not played anymore?
>>1942870
>Every weapon can be annoying when overused, it's not a characteristic exclusive to automatics.
True, but for 95% of shooters in existence, it is automatics. I'd rather they overtune and nerf odder weapons repeatedly that experience what I already have in dozens if shooters for the nth time already.
>CS is a competitive one. Are you gonna complain that the majority of the roster in CS is automatics?
No, I'm gonna complain that it has nothing to do with my point other than the tangent that Valve CAN include good automatics and specifically DIDN'T. I'm not going to engage the rest of this obtuse reply. I'm not here just to bump.

I will clarify, hoever, since I probbably wasn't clear, that burst and auto and semis don't play different to EACHOTHER not all other guns. If you have ever used a macro (or just the scroll wheel) for semi automatic guns with extremely high fire rate, you'd know what I meant.

>>1943070
You sound pretentious and very misinformed. Your opinions therefore have no intrinsic value. Feel free to spread your drivel at your leisure but don't expect people to give you their time engaging with you.

>>1943070
The Pike plays different from an AKM or FCAR
It's extremely powerful but punishing if you miss, not mention you're restricted to a scope or (bad) irons
The ARs are very low risk, consistent damage

Alright lads?

Been trying finals for the last wee while there, on and off for about 3/4 weeks there. These are my stats so far, and I play Medium w/ Demat. I feel like I'm kinda dogshit: should I just stop? Not really sure how to aim better: mostly just fire off the Cerb in close quarters.

>>1943142
Do you like it? Are you having fun? Then keep playing, if not don't. Not sure why you're asking us permission to stop

>>1943156
I don't even know why either: kinda just...
... I dunno.

But nah, I'm really enjoying myself: game's fun as fuck. Guess I'm just worried about being shit at it, wondering how people get better at using weapons that aren't shotguns or AOE splash.

>>1943168
If you plan on using shotguns much, i'd reccomend using a square crosshair
either you use an external crosshair (the better option) or you can make one ingame. Make sure to put inworld corsshair to off since it makes it wobble around a lot

>>1943077
You can call me pretentious all you want, I'm not discussing an obtuse point on a tangent made to express my opinion clearer 4 posts back. Not dying on this hill you made for me. I agree in fact with all you said on CS and TF2, It's just beside the point that I want niche weapons to have a stronger niche and why the direction isn't going there.
>>1943082
That's fair, I'd argue it edges in being a sniper, as the only sniper scope gun on medium, but you're right

>>1943142
Did you... even try out other stuff?
I've been playing for over a month on and off and I'm still trying out and unlocking new stuff.
Demats high map knowledge and cerb got some recent nerfs from what I gathered, so I think it would be unfortunate to quit early while using those.

>>1943265
I like the grenade launcher! It's fun, though it has a lot less splash than I thought.
My usual build is Demat x Cerb/pill launcher x Goo x Jump pad x Defib. I'd maybe try Heavy but I like supporting more. Is there something I *should* try?

>>1943268
Double movement like a boss and un unscoped AK
that shit was my jam

>>1943268
You should definetely try heavy with goo gun and sledge. It's completely different.
Walls and chasms are just suggestions you can break through or goo over. C4, mines and rpg for maxmum destruction. I would reccomend playing heavy with a medium in a squad, since you're slow as balls otherwise.
Double barrel light shotty is also very strong and expecting a nerf. Other than that, whatever weapons seems interesting to you, everything is pretty balanced and there nearly no weak picks

>>1943268
If you want to support more as a Heavy, I would recommend Mesh Shield, Dome Shield, Healing Ball. If you're liking the Cerb or the Grenade launcher- Heavy doesn't have a good alternative. the SA1216 feel way different and the KS23 is dogshit.

>>1943304
>goo gun and sledge
Is not a good recommendation for a new player

>>1943268
Go look up the presets they've teased for season 8's newbies

I think they're all mostly meh but hey, if you wanna try them out, knock yourself out.

>>1943312
But it is a fun one.

>>1943312
If he's quitting tomorrow, he should try the goo and sledge today. It's incomparable with any other loadout. If he likes demat, this is like demat on steroids. Not the good kind of steroids, it's slow and chunky but can brute force situations by pure power. Hell, it even counters demat

>>1943381
I'm not quitting tomorrow! I was just feeling down about stats.

Been playing again and I'm feeling better: having a lotta fun just blasting away with my funny fire shotgun and sometimes my grenade launcher B)

Had no idea that Goo Gun was something people used! Will look into it

>>1943430
If you enjoy the game, I think you should keep playing it. In all honesty- you have a pretty low total amount of games played. You'll get better and better as time goes on. That's any game

>>1943168
>wondering how people get better at using weapons that aren't shotguns or AOE splash.

Easily? All the best weapons for each class is some assault rifle except for heavy where the SA12 is used but only when his whole team is backing him up.

>>1943168
>wondering how people get better at using weapons that aren't shotguns or AOE splash
Are you a console player by any chance

>>1943915
I feel like I can't hit shit. I just feel so tense but also like I'm completely incapable of moving my right arm in big motions: think it's really bad muscle memory or *something.*
>>1943922
Nope! PC. Should I play on controller for aim assist?

>>1943934
>Should I play on controller for aim assist?

If you're not confident with your mouse aim then yes. This game isn't too awful about giving controllers aimbot but it's still pretty strong.

>>1943934
you can try increasing your sensitivity so that you can aim with your wrist.

>>1943934
Do not play controller with aim assist. Learning good aim with mouse is invaluable. Leading shots (bow), accounting for drop (Tknives) and contolling recoil (lmgs) is something that there is no automated assistance for. And good mouse aim trumps controllers every time. Give it time, try out different sensitivities, you'll find a comfort zone, It's different for everyone

>>1943934
This game has plenty of weapons that do not require aim and are still completely viable. That is the only reason i play this game, cause i have shit aim too. Flamethrower, sledgehammer, riot shield, CL40, sword, and dagger are all good if you know how to use them.

>>1943934
Go into the practice range and hit up the shooting gallery. They have targets that move back and forth. Get an automatic weapon (the MP5, AK, etc) and get practicing on tracking / recoil control. Itll eventually come second nature, but like many skills it just takes practice.

If you stroke it while praticing recoil control and tracking your results will advance about 7x the normal pace.
And there is good reason for this:
You see: by depriving your brain of oxygenated blood by supplying your bits, you minimize the concious descision making and thought processes, minimizing somatic motor control decisions. Instead you're simulating a flight or fight response with a heightend heart rate, breathing and sweating, forcing the sympathetic nervous system to form new reflexes at an accelerated rate as a survival mechanism.
I nature, this saves your life, but in the finals it's gonna increase your accuracy and ruin your underwear (a small price to pay)

This is the only game where you can lose by playing everything right. Simply because another team chooses to.

>>1945771
If you're playing in a way that makes another team make you lose, does that not make it the wrong way?

>>1945771
...isn't failing to prevent a last second steal a situation where you played things incorrectly? Do you have brain damage?

>>1945824
>>1946119
No but like come on he totally was gonna win until the other team showed up and there was LITERALLY nothing he could do and uhh uhh ACTUALLY even further they only did it because they were AFRAID of him and wanted the weaker team (that beat him) to enter the next stage instead. This is totally the case and not a fat load of cope.

>>1946124
Anon- what the fuck are you talking about

>>1946124
I mean if the top team doubles your last cashout and then defends the attacking team, yeah, what the fuck are you supposed to do? You people think like this because this shit can't happen in casual. 3rd partying and griefing are a real issue.

Heavy from The Finals

>>1942151
>Ranked is flawed, I really wish some heinous shit happens live on the major and they're forced to address it.
This exact thing happened during their twitch rivals where one team that had 3 poop socking ruby players did this every time to the somewhat intermediate teams. Their never going to change the main game mode from cashout but they definitely need to do something about just being gatekept out by other teams.

>>1946449
I just don't know what they could do to fix it.
Shift the competitive mode to just 3v3s? Then it becomes boring and all about whoever holds the best angles on the spawning team.
My solution has always been that on the first KO round, you simply cannot double the last cashbox. Bring back harsher wipe losses too, so high up teams need to atleast play to avoid a wipe.
Other than that, no clue what could be done.

>>1946332
The only time your really seeing this kind of shit happen is when you get into high plat-low diamond, so of course these retards aren't seeing it. Whenever a team is dedicated to griefing you from advancing to the next round, you basically have to wipe the entire lobby before you could even think about stealing the cashout.
>>1946453
>Even out the cashbox amount or decrease the last two cashbox so that they don't unequivocally decide who advances to the next round
>The last cashout can't be doubled
>Instead of getting a certain amount from getting the plug, 70% of the money slowly drains into your account and you get the last 30% from a successful cashout defense.
>Whenever a team gets wiped, the team that killed the most members of the wiped team get 20% of the money they lost.
These are just a couple of the top of my head, they could do alot more but I suspect embark is going to let this game die by not drastically changing the way this mode works

>>1946479
The thing is that they can't changed ranked right now. The major is right around the corner, they can't do changes like that right now. Arc Raiders is also coming soon and they'll divide work force between them (not like the current stream of changes indicated that they weren't already streched thin).

>>1946332
>yeah, what the fuck are you supposed to do
Defend.
The.
Cashout.
>You people think like this because this shit can't happen in casual
Funny how the ranked player immediately feels persecuted and tries to say everyone else just doesn't understand, as if World Tour doesn't also have 3rd Partying and "Griefing."

>>1946619
he's talking about two other teams defending the same point and getting knocked out because of that.

>>1946619
How am I gonna defend the cashout when I'm up against 9 other dudes, 3 of which will not rush in but will instead help one team or another and instead chase specifically me?
> if World Tour doesn't also have 3rd Partying and "Griefing."
With no wipe on loss, it's a lot easier to keep a hold of your cash. That said, most shitters that play that mode don't even know what griefing is.
Again, stay in your baby modes.

>>1946624
Yeah that's even worse when it's clearly teaming to the point where they don't even shoot eachother. It's like fighting a 6 man team.

>less than a week away from new season
>all the news we have is that noobs will be funneled into shit premade loadouts
ok

>>1946624
No, we're talking about you holding the last cashout and then getting attacked by double stackers trying to uplift the "worse" team. If you weren't holding the cashout before overtime then why the fuck do you think you deserve to win, loser.
>>1946625
>How am I gonna defend the cashout when I'm up against 9 other dudes
By not being shit at the game, lmao. Heck, even before you get to the actual defense: the fact that you say against "9" other dudes means that you regularly expect to be threatened by either team getting the double stack, which means you've failed to deposit and cashout out up until that point, which means you don't deserve shit, bitch.

>>1946641
Holy fuck it must hurt to be this retarded.
You don't understand how the game works
>>1946479 already explained it

>>1946625
>With no wipe on loss, it's a lot easier to keep a hold of your cash
That actually makes griefing more effective in World Tour. The team-up can't lose cash, so they're free to just go ham on trying to take you out.
>but what if they wipe me and I lose my cash
Then you deserved to lose??? You dumbass????
You know how the game works, how about you PLAY AROUND IT FOR ONCE

>>1946655
You know what
don't worry about it
keep playing quick cash, these problems don't matter to you

>>1946657
>these problems don't matter to you
These problems don't matter to me because unlike you, I'm not shit at the game

So after a certain point, it's just become clear that the "Ranked" players are just false-flagging, right? They do nothing but whine, have nothing to back up their statements and explain nothing about their positions beyond "uh fuggin i dunno i just FEEL like it's true," and then try to call people shitters before running off. It's like a bad, lazy stereotype of the people that care about ranked. It can't be real, right?

>>1946641
It just read like that was what he was talking about

Thoughts? Something you really think should be replaced with something?

>>1947530
if the dual deagles get nerfed I swear to god

>>1947779
You will use nothing but assault rifles and you will be happy.

let me guess, XP buffed again then nerfed mid season again

It's easy to predict nerfs but is there anything you expect to get buffed?
I'd like to see the CB repeater buffed to 88 damage so it can 4 shot heavies. The problem is you can't really do anything interesting with it like increasing it's headshot multiplier without just turning it into a better (or worse) revolver

Interesting to see the constant sbmm debates on reddit. Some of them are convinced there's no sbmm outside of ranked, some are convinced it's there but weak
There's quite clearly fairly strict sbmm in every playlist, only difference between ranked and the other modes is WT/Casual is based off your stack's combined (hidden) mmr and Ranked is based just on the highest ranking player's RS

>>1947831
I'm not sure, but I feel like having worse players in your party might also make the matches easier than if you were to play solo.
I still have hard matches when playing with my fresh install friends but not nearly as often as in apex where they are doomed to fight preds in every single match they play with me.

>>1947831
There absolutley is sbmm, I joined my friends who are all brand new accounts and I went 32-7 in TDM.

>>1947795
revolver is already better since it can shoot faster

>>1947530
>New OST bangers
Sorry but anything post S3 is lame and i'm pretty sure not even made by the same composers as S1-S2
They're not bad, but I cannot remember a single memorable song from this season or S4. On the contrary, Destroyer lives rent free in my head and FloatingBits was one of my favourite menu songs. S2 also had the best engame music.

anyways this is my bingo card
-They won't introduce a new spec, not when the major is this close. Adding a new spec would totally throw off the balance for now and would force a rework of team comps
-Esport shilling is already active and it will only ramp up when the major comes closer
-CL40 will get a nerf because idiots cry about it. It's an annoying weapon, but not a strong one
-The famed MGL rework is never coming. It might as well be a running joke.
-Light will get a buff and Heavy gets a nerf at this point it's tradition

>>1947831
Ranked seeding is based off total RS score. It takes every team member's RS, adds it up and tallies your seeding and match difficulty according to it. I think it used to be dependent on highest ranking only back in S1 and 2

>>1947856
>>1947831
Frogot to add, it will take account of this if you're queuing with say a silver or a gold. It will soft ignore their RS and consider them to be smurf boosting and give you somewhat harsher lobbies

>>1947856
>>1947860
Makes sense. I queue with two (genuine) silvers as a mid-high plat and the pregame screen that shows combined RS is always 90-100k when it should be 60-70k. But we're always 7th or 8th seed

>>1947861
yeah the game believes those 2 are smurf accounts that are boosting you, therefore you will be put in challenging games against rubies since end season every ruby has atleast 5 alt accounts to boost people with (after they pay money, that is)

>guy runs CL
>he's low
>tries to shoot at me
>block his shot with a barricade
>he dies from self damage
Hurhurhurhur

Hope head2head stays. Perfect mode warming up or just playing a couple rounds without committing to a potentially 30+ minute WT game

>>1947903
If they were trying to acclimate people to how the qualifiers are done (i.e. Final cashout rules, 3v3) then they did it badly. Infinite coins and the ability to not only change weapons but also just straight up change class, fucking yawn
If i wanna warm up I either play TDM or Power shift where I don't really care about winning

>>1947906
I just like having a casual option that resembles the main game mode without being an awful clusterfuck like quick cash
TDM and Power Shift are fine but they're played in completely different ways

>>1947909
Then they should bring back single round tournament
>inb4 Bank It
It's TDM with chores, everyone already played bank it only to warm up anyways.

Quick Trash just sucks desu

>>1947910
>It's TDM with chores
And? It's FUN you retard. Plenty of games have the "you need to cash in your kills" gamemode and people enjoy it.

>>1948090
I'd rather just focus on killin and the practice range still doesn't do it for me when I wanna practice how actual real people move. Even in the big box scenario, nobody uses movement and shit. Besides if I want to play a casual mode and still try to do the objective i'd rather prefer power shift anyways.

New season is almost certainly going to have some tie-in to Arc Raiders right?

>>1948264
Only known info is that it's space themed. That's about it.

>>1948286
Source?

>>1948286
Its space themed? I wonder if we'll be getting that moon map I've been predicting.

>>1948328
>I've been predicting
More like everyone's been predicting
Ooo, what's next, Mr. Predictor? More unique ideas like the Colosseum? An amusement park? A castle? Yo mama's huge hairy ass?

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/cRXnJa99O2w
First Teaser for S8
Punk skin and a Pirate skin

>>1948432
>Pirate
That's norse stuff, especially with the fur and the ravens

If anything, I assume they might do a post-apoc twist or something, given that CNS is gonna win and what music they seemed to tease leaned more towards a CNS kind of feel

>>1948432
This is very low budget and also super late. We got like 2 weeks of news for season 6 and we still know shit about season 8

>>1948461
>>1948461
>https://www.youtube.com/shorts/cRXnJa99O2w
That hardly matters, they told us a while ago they'd be doing a 1 week hype cycle vs one small thing per day

>>1948432
>>1948469
Dude looks straight out of Assassin's Creed
Also Swedish flag on his sleeve, doubt it's part of the skin. So selectable uniform flags/team emblems?

>>1948471
its possible. there's also the premium pass version without it though

>>1948478
oh mah GAWD an Odin skin and a girl skin that actually looks good? they're specifically targeting me and my wallet can't take it. please tell me at least one will be part of the regular battle pass

>>1949027
all 3 of these will definitely be battle pass

>>1948478
>>1948469
Yoo it's mad maxene from crispy road, adam wesker, robocop and the advisor from total war warhammer 2 lmao

>>1933096
What do you expect from literal console retards? Like you said, the ones complaining about the wrong things, like the winch, are usually completely dog shit players.

>>1948461
Likely Embark is crunching on Arc right now.

>>1949604
I know
still won't buy that shit for 40 bucks lmao

>>1936171
I genuinely fucking hate console shitters.

>>1949610
but you will spend 70 on BF6 right?

Not interested in Arc Raiders simply because it's third person

>>1949637
lolno

>>1949637
nah, can't play it if I wanted to